Conference bookie::movies

    
    	Well, there HAS to be more than that ... Kevin Costner and "The
    	Bodyguard" must have been nominated for at least 15 or 20 dif-
    	ferent categories.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    Here are the nominations as *I* got them (2d hand, from a friend).
    There's some discrepancy over the Best Actor list, from .0 (I
    don't have Robert Downey Jr. on my list)
        
    Film: 
    Howards End
    Unforgiven
    Crying Game
    Scent of a Woman
    A Few Good Men
    
    Director:
    Neal Jordan (Crying Game)
    James Ivory (Howards End)
    Robert Altman (The Player)
    Martin Brest (Scent of a Woman)
    Clint Eastwood (Unforgiven)
    
    Actress:
    Catherine Deneuve (Indochine)
    Mary McDonnell (Passionfish)
    Michelle Pfeiffer (Love Field)
    Susan Sarandon (Lorenzo's Oil)
    Emma Thompson (Howards End)
    
    Actor:
    Robert DeNiro (Night and the City, I think)
    Clint Eastwood (Unforgiven)
    Al Pacino (Scent of a Woman)
    Stephen Rea (Crying Game)
    Denzel Washington (Malcolm X)
    
    Supporting Actress:
    Judy Davis (Husbands and Wives)
    Joan Plowright (Enchanted April)
    Vanessa Redgrave (Howards End)
    Miranda Richardson (Enchanted April or Damage or Crying Game)
    Marisa Tomei (My Cousin Vinny)
    
    Supporting Actor:
    Jay Davison (Crying Game)
    Gene Hackman (Unforgiven)
    Jack Nicholson (A Few Good Men)
    Al Pacino (Glegarry Glen Ross)
    David Paynor (sp?) (Mr. Saturday Night)
    
    Original Screenplay:
    Crying Game
    Husbands and Wives
    Lorenzo's Oil
    Unforgiven
    Passionfish
    
    Adapted Screenplay:
    Enchanted April
    Howards End
    The Player
    A River Runs Through It
    Scent of a Woman
    
    Foreign Language Film:
    Indochine
    Close to Eden
    (and 3 others....)
         

    Funny you should mention "The Bodyguard", I heard that it
    topped the list of the "Golden Raspberry Awards" (worst film,
    worst actor, worst actress, etc).  Mabye worst haircut (Costner) ;-)
    
    Richard

    I find it interesting to see Catherine Deneuve's nomination.  Is it
    unusual for the Academy to nominate an actor or actress for a
    performance in a foreign language film?
    
    -- Mike

    Well, the only winner so far for a foreign-language performance
    was Sophia Loren in 1962's "Two Women", though there have
    been other nominees (Gerard Depardieu in the recent French version of
    "Cyrano de Bergerac") comes to mind.
    
    Richard

       I got this list off Usenet from two independent sources; it seems
       to be accurate:
       
		BEST PICTURE NOMINEES
		 Unforgiven
		 Howards End
		 The Crying Game
		 A Few Good Men
		 Scent of a Woman
		                                   
		BEST DIRECTOR NOMINEES
		 Neil Jordan, The Crying Game
		 James Ivory, Howards End
		 Robert Altman, The Player
		 Martin Brest, Scent of a Woman
		 Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven
		 
		BEST ACTOR NOMINEES
		 Robert Downey Jr, Chaplin
		 Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven
		 Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
		 Steven Rea, The Crying Game
		 Denzel Washington, Malcolm X
		 
		BEST ACTRESS NOMINEES
		 Catherine Deneuve, Indochine
		 Mary McDonnell, Passion Fish
		 Michelle Pfeiffer, Love Field
		 Susan Sarandon, Lorenzo's Oil
		 Emma Thompson, Howards End
		
		BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR NOMINEES
		 Jaye Davidson, The Crying Game
		 Gene Hackman, Unforgiven
		 Jack Nicholson, A Few Good Men
		 Al Pacino, Glengarry Glen Ross
		 David Paymer, Mr Saturday Night
		               
		BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS NOMINEES
		 Judy Davis, Husbands and Wives
		 Joan Plowright, Enchanted April
		 Vanessa Redgrave, Howards End
		 Miranda Richardson, Damage
		 Marisa Tomei, My Cousin Vinny
		
		BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY NOMINEES
		 Peter Barnes, Enchanted April
		 Ruth Prawer Jhabvala, Howards End
		 Michael Tolkin, The Player
		 Richard Friedenberg, A River Runs Through It
		 Bo Goldman, Scent of a Woman
		
		BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY NOMINEES
		 Neil Jordan, The Crying Game
		 Woody Allen, Husbands and Wives
		 George Miller and Nick Enright, Lorenzo's Oil
		 John Sayles, Passion Fish
		 David Webb Peoples, Unforgiven
		
		BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM NOMINEES
		 Close to Eden, Russia
		 Daens, Belgium
		 Indochine, France
		 A Place in the World, Uruguay
		 Schtonk, Germany

		BEST ART DIRECTION NOMINEES
		 Bram Stoker's Dracula
		 Chaplin
		 Howards End
		 Toys
		 Unforgiven
		
		BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY NOMINEES
		 Hoffa
		 Howards End
		 The Lover
		 A River Runs Through It
		 Unforgiven
		                 
		BEST COSTUME DESIGN NOMINEES
		 Bram Stoker's Dracula
		 Enchanted April
		 Howards End
		 Malcolm X
		 Toys
                                                       
		BEST EDITING NOMINEES
		 Basic Instinct
		 The Crying Game
		 A Few Good Men
		 The Player
		 Unforgiven
		
		BEST MAKEUP NOMINEES
		 Batman Returns
		 Bram Stoker's Dracula
		 Hoffa
		
		BEST ORIGINAL SCORE NOMINEES
		 Alan Menken, Aladdin
		 Jerry Goldsmith, Basic Instinct
		 John Barry, Chaplin
		 Richard Robbins, Howards End
		 Mark Isham, A River Runs Through It
		                 
		BEST ORIGINAL SONG NOMINEES
		 Beautiful Maria of My Soul from The Mambo Kings
		 Friend Like Me from Aladdin
		 I Have Nothing from The Bodyguard
		 Run to You from The Bodyguard
		 Whole New World from Aladdin
		                                                       
		SOUND NOMINEES
		 Aladdin
		 A Few Good Men
		 The Last of the Mohicans
		 Under Siege
		 Unforgiven
		 
		BEST SOUND EDITING NOMINEES
		 Aladdin
		 Bram Stoker's Dracula
		 Under Siege
		                 
		BEST VISUAL EFFECTS NOMINEES
		 Alien 3
		 Batman Returns
		 Death Becomes Her
		 
		BEST DOCUMENTARY NOMINEES 
		 Changing Our Minds: The Story of Dr Evelyn Hooker
		 Fires of Kuwait
		 Liberators: Fighting on 2 Fronts in World War II
		 Music for the Movies: Bernard Hermann
		 The Panama Deception
		
		DOCUMENTARY SHORT NOMINEES
		 At the Edge of Conquest: The Journey of Chief Wai-Wai
		 Beyond Imagining: Margaret Anderson and the 'Little Review'
		 The Colours of My Father: A Portrait of Sam Borenstein
		 Educating Peter
		 When Abortion Was Illegal: Untold Stories
		 
		ANIMATED SHORT NOMINEES 
		 Adam
		 Mona Lisa
		 Descending a Staircase
		 Reci, Reci, Reci (Words, Words, Words)
		 The Sandman
		 Screen Play
		                                      
		LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM NOMINEES
		 Contact
		 Cruise Control
		 The Lady in Waiting
		 Omnibus
		 Swan Song

    Politics and other intrigue aside there's no excuse for "The Player"
    not being nominated for best picture.  Even more so when you consider
    that they were willing to include a formulaic exercise like 
    "A Few Good Men". 

    "Malcolm X" would be up for every award if it had been directed by
    Richard Attenborough.  Not that it was my kind of movie, but it
    certainly was the Academy's.
    
    As usual, few of my favorites (only Altman for "The Player" and Judy
    Davis for anything) made it to the ballot. Looks like "Silence of the
    Lambs" was a real fluke.
    
    Ray

    Well, I'm happy to see that Stephen Rea was nominated for The Crying
    Game.  I thought he was wonderful.  I, also, thought Emma Thompson was
    excellent in Howards End, and am glad she got nominated, too.  I would
    love to see Jaye (whatever?) get best supporting actor for The Crying
    Game, too!
    
    Lorna
    

Here's a cursory list of nominations in "mainstream" categories (i.e.,
other than Documentary, Short, Foreign, or honorary) of actors in
foreign language pictures:

1961 Actress:
*Sophia Loren (Two Women) [Italian]
1962 Actor:
Marcello Mastroianni (Divorce - Italian Style) [Italian]
1964 Actress:
Sophia Loren (Marriage Italian-Style) [Italian]
1966 Actress:
Ida Kaminska (The Shop on Main Street) [Czech]
1974 Supporting Actress:
Valentina Cortese (Day for Night) [French]
1976 Actor:
Giancarlo Giannini (Seven Beauties) [Italian]
1976 Actress:
Marie-Christine Barrault (Cousin, Cousine) [French]
Liv Ullmann (Face to Face) [Swedish]
1977 Actor:
Marcello Mastroianni (A Special Day) [Italian]
1978 Actress:
Ingrid Bergman (Autumn Sonata) [Swedish]
1989 Actress:
Isabelle Adjani (Camille Claudel) [French]
1990 Actor:
Gerard Depardieu (Cyrano de Bergerac) [French]
1992 Actress:
Catherine Deneuve (Indochine) [French]

And for completeness, the dates of nominations in other categories (*
indicates winner):

Picture (1938, 1969, 1973)
Director (1961, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972, 1973,
1974, 1975, 1976, 1976, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1987)
Writing: Adapted Screenplay (1946, 1949, 1951, 1963, 1969, 1971, 1971,
1972, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1979, 1982, 1987, 1988, 1991)
Writing: Original Screenplay (1946, 1947, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1954, 1954,
1955, 1955, 1956, 1956, 1956, *1956, 1957, 1959, 1959, 1960, 1961,
1961, 1961, 1962, 1962, *1962, 1963, 1963, 1964, 1964, 1965, 1965,
*1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1975, 1976,
1976, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1984, 1987)
Art Direction (1931-32, 1951, 1952, 1954, 1956, 1961, 1963, 1966, 1968,
1980, 1982, *1983, 1984, 1990)
Cinematography (*1973, 1982, *1983, 1984, 1988)
Costume Design (1954, *1954, 1955, 1956, 1961, *1961, 1963, 1966, 1966,
1975, *1976, 1982, *1983, *1984, *1990, 1991)
Film Editing (*1969, 1982)
Makeup (1990)
Music: Adapted Score (1963, 1965, 1966, 1971)
Music: Musical Score (1952, 1961)
Music: Song (1965)
Sound (1982)
Sound Effects Editing (1982)

The large number of original screenplay nominations is partly because I
combined a couple categories (story, and story and screenplay) into
that one for some years.

Also worth mentioning: the 1970 Thalberg award went to Ingmar Bergman
(8 nominations, no wins).  Of course, there have been many honorary
awards, like last year's to Satyajit Ray and this year's to Federico
Fellini (12 of those nominations are his -- and he's never won, except
for Foreign Language Film).

(I was conservative on my counting; I wasn't sure what language Never
on Sunday was, so I omitted it, for instance.)

    
    Last of the Mohicans should have been up for more awards.
    
    

    RE: .11  by 7892::ESCOBAR 
    
    >Last of the Mohicans should have been up for more awards.
    
    Yeh, like maybe the biathalon, at least.
    

    
    > Last of the Mohicans should have been up for more awards.
    
    >> Yeh, like maybe the biathalon, at least.
    
    ...or best hairstyles... (I loved all that hair!)
    
    Lucy 

    RE: .13 by 6729::PATTON 
    
    >> Last of the Mohicans should have been up for more awards.
    
    >>> Yeh, like maybe the biathalon, at least.
    
    >...or best hairstyles... (I loved all that hair!)
    
    Ahah!  That explains why Esco liked it so much.  
    

    Is anyone counting English actresses as "foreign"?  God knows that
    Glenda Jackson and Maggie Smith have certainly scored enough Oscars to
    line the streets of Picadilly Circus!

>    Is anyone counting English actresses as "foreign"?  


Nope, it's you lot that are foreign :-)

    Oops, looks like London just tuned in! :-)
    
    -1
    
    Leslie (whose grandparents came from England)

>    Oops, looks like London just tuned in! :-)
    
"London" tunes in at least 5 hours before you do !

and no, I'm not "London" :-)

    Okay, I'll bite ... Australia?  
    
    If not, where?
    
    Leslie

    Wnen are the Academy Awards this year?
    
    Thanks,
    Cathy

    
    March 29 - Monday, I believe.
    
    gloria

    
    RE: .14
    
    >> Ahah!  That explains why Esco liked it so much.  
    
	Actually my hair is sorta like DDL's... only mine is coal black.
    
    

    For the Academy purposes, "foreign" means non-English-language.
    In fact, I think the category is "Foreign Language Film".
    
    Richard

		BEST PICTURE
Siskel		 Howards End
Ebert		 Howards End
		                                   
		BEST ACTOR
Siskel		 Denzel Washington, Malcolm X
Ebert		 Denzel Washington, Malcolm X
		 
		BEST ACTRESS
Siskel		 Emma Thompson, Howards End
Ebert		 Emma Thompson, Howards End
		
		BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Siskel		 Jaye Davidson, The Crying Game
Ebert		 Al Pacino, Glengarry Glen Ross
		               
		BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Siskel		 Judy Davis, Husbands and Wives
Ebert		 Judy Davis, Husbands and Wives
		
		BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Siskel		 Unforgiven
Ebert		 A River Runs Through It
		                 
		BEST ORIGINAL SONG
Siskel		 Beautiful Maria of My Soul from The Mambo Kings
Ebert		 Beautiful Maria of My Soul from The Mambo Kings

	Siskel & Ebert also have their own catagory:

		WORSE NOMINATION
Siskel		 Michael Phifer, Love Field	- BEST ACRESS
Ebert		 A Few Good Men			- BEST PICTURE

* NOTE, all the above are who Siskel & Ebert think should win, not who
        they think *will* win

    I know it does not fit to this topic, but I could't find a better
    one.
    
    I have a question I wanted to ask for a long time:
    Who exactly are Siskel and Ebert ?
    
    As I understand from various topics in this and previous conference,
    they are movie critics.
    
    Andrea (from Austria)

    Re .25: See the brand, shiny new topic 97 I just started, for info on
    critics, etc. (Siskel and Ebert are in 97.1.)
    
    -b

    Straight from the Awards:
    
     BEST PICTURE
    	  Unforgiven
         
     BEST DIRECTOR
     	  Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven
     
     BEST ACTOR
     	  Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
     
     BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
     	  Gene Hackman, Unforgiven
     
     BEST ACTRESS
     	  Emma Thompson, Howards End
     
     BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
     	  Marisa Tomei, My Cousin Vinny
     
     ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
     	  The Crying Game
     
     ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
     	  Howards End
     
     FOREIGN FILM
     	  Indochine (France)
     
     ART DIRECTION
     	  Howards End
     
     CINEMATOGRAPHY
     	  A River Runs Trhough It
     
     COSTUME DESIGN
     	  Bram Stoker's Dracula
     
     VISUAL EFFECTS
     	  Death Becomes Her
     
     MAKEUP
     	  Bram Stoker's Dracula
     
     SOUND
     	  The Last of the Mohicans
     
     SOUND EFFECTS EDITING
     	  Bram Stoker's Dracula
     
     FILM EDITING
     	  Unforgiven
     
     ORIGINAL SCORE
     	  Alan Menken, Aladdin
     
     ANIMATED SHORT FILM
     	  Mona Lisa Descending a Staircase
     
     LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM
     	  Omnibus
     
     DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
     	  The Panama Deception
     
     DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT
     	  Educating Peter
     
     

    BEST ORIGINAL SONG
    	Whole New World from Alladin (Alan Menken/Tim Rice)
    
    
    Andrea
    (still missing 4 hours sleep)

    Special oscars:
          
    Lifetime achievment: Frederico Fellini
                         Audrey Hepburn (posthumous)
                     
    ?                  : Elizabeth Taylor
    
    Andrea

    What a shocker that Marisa Tomei won for Supporting Actress, given the
    stiff competition.  Just goes to show that Oscar surprises every once 
    in a while.  On the whole I thought it was one of the duller programs. 
    Poor Billy Crystal, trying his best to make it more lively.

    re .30, I agree that it was one of the duller shows.
    
    I was disgusted that Marisa Tomei won for Supporting Actress.  I
    thought she was competent enough in her role, but definitely *not* on
    the same level as her competition.  The fact that she won over 
    Judy Davis, Vanessa Redgrave and Joan Plowright is a joke, IMO.
    Or maybe I was confused, and the award was really for Actress Who
    Looked Hottest in a Mini-Skirt?
    
    Speaking of looking hot, however, I'm very impressed with how good
    Clint Eastwood looks for his age.  
    
    The only major award I agreed with was Emma Thompson for Best Actress, but
    she was the one I cared most about winning and I'm thrilled she did. 
    Her Margaret, in Howards End, is one of my all-time favorite female
    characters, and in just a couple of years and a handful of roles she
    has become my very favorite actress.  I, also, thought her acceptance
    speech was very good.
    
    Now I have to see Unforgiven, Scent of a Woman, and A Few Good Men to
    see what I think of them.  (None of them interested me much, originally,
    to be honest.)
    
    Oh, and I, also, thought the song and dance numbers were especially
    lame last night.  Boring!!!
    
    Lorna
    
    

re: .31 -

'Disgusted' is really the perfect word regarding Tomei and Best Supporting
Actress -- I was too kind in my previous note.  I'm always one to root for
an underdog, but this?!  All I can think of is that voters couldn't decide
between Plowright, Davis, Redgrave, and Richardson, because they were all
equally outstanding, so they all nullified each other which left the door
open for Tomei.  Sounds stupid, I know, but it's all I can come up with.
How ironic that she should receive her award from Jack Palance, another 
outrageously dumb selection from last year.  You have to wonder what the
voters see in their infinite wisdom that I sure don't.

Tomei is definitely a star on the rise, and this will surely help.  And she
wasn't BAD in 'My Cousin Vinny', just far from Oscar-worthy.  But lately
it seems that Oscar is not quite the stodgy, highly-predictable guy he used
to be.  Fine with me, as long as he always rewards true excellence.

Much as I was glad to see Al Pacino finally become a winner, I was really
pulling for Denzel Washington to win.  He was truly amazing in 'Malcolm X'.
But in the 'Year of Pacino', everyone else had an uphill struggle.

Emma Thompson seems like quite a classy lady; I look forward to seeing more
of her.

    I also was more than surprised about Marisa Tomei winning the Oscar.
    She did not fit into the range of her competitors.
    
    I was glad that Al Pacino won, but I was disappointed about his
    speech. He should have been able to do it without a script.
    
    Altough I have not seen Unforgiven so far, I was not happy about
    winning best film and best director. My favourite was Howards End or
    Scent of a Woman (I do not like Western movies at all).
    
    Andrea
    
    p.s. I liked the show, because here in Europe we are not able
    to produce shows like that at all. If you have seen the show
    of the European Film Award (I do not remember his name), taking
    place in Berlin this year, it was like a funeral in comparison
    to the Oscar show. So it's always a question of the viewpoint.

I was appalled at the Academy's vote for Tomei.  I don't
usually get crazy in front of the television, but I
was on my feet yelling abuse at the Academy.  Like a
previous noter, the only thing I can figure out is that
the vote was so split among Davis (who should have
won and has been stiffed AGAIN!), Redgrave, Plowright,
and Richardson that Tomei drew enough votes for being
the only Yank.  

I was truly anxious that this Supporting award might
indicate a streak of xenophobia that would deprive
Thompson of her well-deserved Oscar.  Fortunately I
was wrong.  Thompson was a delight in her reception
of the news and her trip to the podium.  An intelligent,
witty, and tremendously graceful acceptance.  Nice that
her mother, actress Phyllida Law, could be there with
her last night, since her working husband had to be 
watching from the UK.  If Renaissance Films' (Branagh
and David Parfitt) "Swan Song" had won for the Best 
Short Film it would have been a VERY happy family.  Ah
well.

Chris

I'll have to dissent regarding Marisa Tomei.  Perhaps what the Academy noticed
was how far she took the role, given what she had to work with versus what
the other women had.  *Good* comedy is hard to pull off. That may have given 
her the edge? 

Ann

    Did anybody else get tired of the "let me take a minute to talk about 
    <fill in your favorite oppressed group here>" tactics by the
    presenters?  I appreciate that these stars are using their popularity
    to try to get things done, but come on....one after the other?  I
    personally got tired of it.
    
    					Donna

    re: .37 
    
    Actually, I didn't mind it too much when they were direct and to the
    point, like Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon were when they presented the
    editing award, but what was the deal with Richard Gere??  Richard,
    please shut up and sit down, thank you very much.
    
    The best "cause" speech of the night though belonged to Barbra
    Streisand when she presented the Best Director award.  First of all, I
    couldn't believe they asked her to present this award when she was
    snubbed last year for "Prince of Tides" and the Academy has a history
    of not nominating women directors.  But her speech on the roles of
    women in film and the hypocritical celebration of "the year of the
    woman" was not only extremely valid, but also well-thought-out and
    well-presented.  Good job, Babs!!
    
    As to the rest of it.  The show was duller and longer than recent ones. 
    No great upsets, except for Supporting Actress, and it looked like
    everyone walked away with a little something.  
    
    But I don't know.  If you're an action star and you want to direct an
    atypical Western, there's probably a lot of studios that might listen
    to you...  :-)
    
    - Skip

re .29

>Lifetime achievment: Frederico Fellini
>                     Audrey Hepburn (posthumous)
>                    
>    ?              : Elizabeth Taylor


Audrey Hepburn and Elizabeth Taylor each won the Jean Hersholt Memorial award,
the first time two have been awarded in the same year. The JHM is given for
what used to be called "charity work", something which benefits mankind, outside
of film work. Hepburn for her work with UNICEF and Talyor with AIDS.


Randy

I also thought that Angela Lansbury's intro to Elizabeth Taylor was memorable.
That woman (Lansbury) simply exudes class and charm every time you see her.
The old 'National Velvet' film clip of Lansbury and Taylor was perfect.  And
Liz's acceptance speech was beautiful -- in a mere few minutes, she expressed
sincere appreciation and was able to pack a punch with her plea for assistance
to fight AIDS.  It's a shame this whole sequence fell so far into the pro-
ceedings, because some people were undoubtedly weary at that point.

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but is there some reason why certain men (like Robert
Downey, Jr.) can't see fit to wave a razor in the general vicinity of their 
face before they show their mug in front of millions on such a special night?  
And how 'bout a comb through the hair?  Is that too much to ask?  Downey's a 
handsome guy, but he looked horrid last night, like he had just awaken minutes 
before the ceremonies.  And Diane Keaton -- a very pretty woman who goes out 
of her way to prove otherwise at the Oscars.  Last night was an example, and 
remember what she wore when she won for 'Annie Hall'?

Another typical night at the Oscars!

RE Marisa Tomei

  I have to disagree with those who didn't like this award. I thought that
Marisa Tomei getting the best supporting actress award for "My Cousin Vinny"
was one of the best choices of the night. 

  Think for a minute what that award is all about. It's not a leading lady
award, it's a supporting actress award. In fact, without her performance that
movie would have been a 1st class dud. As it was, she livened it up from a
position which was clearly not a leading roll and made it worth seeing. I don't
know how much more support you can give to a movie. 

  By contrast, Vennessa Redgrave should have been given an award for the worst
supporting actress. Not only did her performance add nothing to Howards End,
she seemed so dull and out of character that it actually detracted from the
film. Yeah, I know, she was suppose to be sick, but someone of her experience
in a part so small should have done much better.

RE the other awards

  I'm glad Clint Eastwood got the "best picture" award for Unforgiven. As I've
said elsewhere, I didn't think it was that great, in fact it wasn't even his
best film, but for all he's done, he deserved the award. Same with Al Pacino.
He really moved me fumbling through that speech. I wish "The Player" had
won best director.

  I like Gene Hackman, but I'm not sure that part was all that difficult. I
would have voted for Al Pacino who was great in Glenn Garry Glenross.

  Emma Thompson was really good and deserved an award. She also had some
humor in her speech.

RE the Show itself

  I agree that the show was long and slow but what of it? It's always long and
slow. Same with the speeches. The worst one was the speech given by the woman
who won the award for the film about Panama. I agree with her politics, but
talk about someone who didn't have a clue. Absolutely no one, with the possible
exception of her close friends and relatives, tuned in that show to see her
give a long political speech. At least the others are stars who's fans will
care what they have to say.

  From the east cost, it appears that they give out too many awards. The show
started at 9PM EST and after quickly giving out the supporting actor and
actress awards, we had to wait until after midnight to see the other
meaningful awards. Of course on the west cost the show went from 6 to 9PM so
maybe it makes more sense from their point of view to do it that way. 

  George

    Things I liked about the Oscars last night:
    
    Liz Taylor accepting her award
    ALL references to Audrey Hepburn, especially the clip showing her in
    action with UNICEF
    Richard Gere's wish for peace and his plea to China
    Angelica Huston standing right in front of Jack Nicholson and not
    looking at him once
    Pacino's near-tears speech and incredible nervousness and gratitude
    Jodie Foster who knows how to announce a category and look the part
    Streisand's PERFECT observation on how women are treated in the
    industry and in ALL industries
    
    What I disliked intensely about Oscar night:
    
    Poor Billy Crystal, floundering around for laughs while no one
    responded
    Jack Palance, who seemed drunk or stupid announcing best supporting
    actress
    Tomei getting the best-supporting Oscar instead of Davis
    Everyone thanking the academy, the individual names of production
    contributors, and various "departments"
    Poor Billy Crystal, floundering around for laughs while no one
    responded
    Another Amy Fisher joke (puhlease!)
    The worst hair styles on earth and tuxes accompanying bad haircuts
    (Gere, Downey Jr. for example)
    The Barbara Walters Special interview with Denzel Washington
    "The Year of the Woman" (how patronizing and condescending!)
    Tomei tripping on her way up to receive her Oscar (no miniskirt here!)
    Poor Billy Crystal, floundering around for laughs while no one
    responded
    
    I knew Pacino was going to get the Oscar when he didn't get
    best-supporting and I knew Hackman and Thompson were going to get
    theirs just by intuition when the envelope was being opened.  I think
    Tomei is an outstanding actress and did a LOT with her role in "My
    Cousin Vinny" and it's harder to do good comedy than drama, but I still
    felt that Judy Davis was unbelievable in "Husbands and Wives" and
    should have bagged the Oscar.  I also think that anyone who saw "Scent
    of a Woman" wouldn't say this was a "sympathy" Oscar for Pacino who has
    been up for 8 other nominations without winning.  He was simply
    outstanding.
    
    I haven't seen "The Crying Game" but fully expected to before Oscar
    night; now I'm DETERMINED!!!  This looks very intriguing and so
    well-acted.
    
    Leslie
    As for those who didn't see "Unforgiven", give it a chance ... it was
    an unbelievably moving film that was VERY anti-violence in its message. 
    I was awed by it and left the theater feeling that Eastwood had done a
    great service to all of us.
    

        >Angelica Huston standing right in front of Jack Nicholson 
    	>and not looking at him once
    
	Loved it!  I was hoping, with all the attention Jack was
    	getting from Billy, that Angelica would get her time
    	on stage.  What a strange feeling it must have been for
    	her.  She seemed very poised and cool. 	
    
    
    	>Streisand's PERFECT observation on how women are treated in the
    	>industry and in ALL industries
    
    	Ditto.
    
    	Jodi-
    

	I also voted FOR Marisa Tomei.  Though I do admit in that
	catagory I only saw My Cousin Vinny and Howards End.

	I think part of the uproar I'm hearing is the usual sentiment that
	comedies aren't deserving of Oscars (and My Cousin Vinny was
	the only comedy in this catagory).  For some reason it's usually
	felt that it's harder to act in a drama than a comedy, and so
	people are biased toward the former .......

  Ok, ok, I'll bite. For those of us who's People Mag subscriptions ran out,
what's the deal with Angelica Huston and Jack Nicholson? Romance gone south? 

  Seems that in Hollywood, that would have everyone nervous of about 10% of
the audience.

  I guess I disagree with most about Billy Crystal. He had me on the floor.

  I loved his last introduction


    .................. "Jack" .................. 


  George

In the men's category, I think Robert Downey Jr. won
hands down.

Among the women competition was tougher, but I think we 
have to give it to Natalie Cole.  Until she removed her 
cape/ruff she looked like she might take off.  When 
she did, she looked like a red-sequined mermaid.  What
might have been a beautiful dress was spoiled by the Very 
Bizarre fish tail.

Ugliest outfit of the evening - a tossup between 
Andie MacDowell's Ralph Lauren (that was the same
color as her skin), and Marisa Tomei's Chanel/Lagerfeld
bag.  But what does this have to do with movies,
anyway?

    Well, maybe I have odd taste, but, personally, I thought both Husband
    and Wives and Enchanted April were much funnier than My Cousin Vinny. 
    I thought both Judy Davis and Joan Plowright had some very funny lines,
    which they delivered perfectly.  I really don't see anything that
    humorous about a good looking, young woman, from the Bronx (or
    wherever?), being an expert on cars.  I think she did a competent job
    with what she had to work with, but I thought the movie was boring,
    corny and stupid, with too much in-your-face humor.  It was very
    unrealistic.  It seemed like a movie that was made more for kids, than
    grown-ups.  Nothing about it was oscar material for me.
    
    But, overall, I'm just glad Emma Thompson won.  Re. a few back, I was
    wondering where her husband was... 
    
    Lorna
    

I sat there through the whole bloody thing, changing channels so frquently that
I seem to have missed a few of the relativley interesting moments, though.

I would have been disappointed had Emma Thompson not won.  I didn't see a
number of the nominated movies, so I can't really comment on Tomei or Pacino.
I liked "Howards End" more than "Unforgiven," but the latter was also a good 
movie.  "Best original screenplay" seemed a suitable award for "The Crying
Game."

The tv show itself was godawful. I can't remember enjoying an Oscar broadcast
less.  I've been in the habit of watching them, but next year I'll think twice.

-Stephen

    re: Marisa Tomei
    
    There may be an 'innocuous' reason why she won: if the winner is chosen
    by plurality rather than majority, and she simply won more than any
    other candidate. In this case she may have won with as little as 21% (with
    5 candidates) of the votes.
    
    Anybody know how the Academy votes?
    
    Thanks.
    
    Ken

    re: .46
    
    None of the costumes/hairstyles had anything to do with the movies; we
    were talking about the Academy Award SHOW.
    
    I thought Diane Keaton looked so ridiculous ... she should have been on
    the cover of "Seventeen ... back to College" issue, if she were only
    17.  And Andie McDowell looked like Andie McDowdy.
    
    I liked the fact that Diane Keaton was right in front of Pacino and
    didn't look at him, either ...
    
    Okay, for all of you who don't know the relationships here:
    
    Anjelica Huston was with Jack Nicholson for 13 years.  She wanted to
    get married and have kids; Nicholson, a chronic womanizer, couldn't
    commit.  He DID buy a house next door to his house for her to live in,
    but didn't want the everydayness associated with a live-in
    relationship.  Anyway, while making "The Two Jakes" with Lorraine
    Broussard (who played his secretary in a very minor role), she became
    pregnant.  Nicholson wanted her to not have the baby, but she gave him
    no choices, so he had to tell Huston what was up.  She was heartbroken
    and left him and the house next door.  Nicholson didn't want to lose
    her, but she gave him no choice, so he stuck by Broussard and their
    daughter was born.  A year or so later she had his son, and told him it
    was time to commit.  He said "I don't think so" and she said "hasta la
    vista baby" or words to that effect.  So now he has two houses that he
    bought for two ladies who have left him, and two more kids to support. 
    Anjelica got married six months ago and is very happy; she told Barbara
    Walters, though, on a special last year (just before she got married)
    that Nicholson and her father, director John Huston, had one
    similarity: they were both egocentric and selfish men.  She said she
    was leveled by the news that Nicholson was about to father a child by
    another woman, but that that was the final straw.  Nicholson was
    clapping wildly last night when Anjelica was announced; she didn't even
    glance at him.  Another interesting point is that Nicholson didn't want
    her working (in the movies) when she was his "girl" ... as soon as they
    split, she became a VERY successful actress.
    
    As for Keaton and Pacino, they got together (again) working on
    Godfather III and during the shooting of that movie, Keaton told Pacino
    she wanted a commitment.  He told her he'd "let her know" by the end of
    the movie.  After it was a wrap, he told her no, he didn't want to get
    married and she took a hike.  Pacino later became involved with someone
    who had a daughter with him; he's still unmarried.
    
    Okay, so now you all know the background info!
    
    Leslie

       
       The most unpleasant moment of the night, by a long shot, was Clint
       Eastwood accepting the director's award, saying "In this Year of
       the Woman, I would like to thank all the gals [sic] who worked on
       Unforgiven..."  
       
       Blecch.

Emma Thompson's husband is currently doing 7 (sold-out)
shows a week at the Royal Shakespeare Theatre in 
Stratford-upon-Avon.  So he was on stage from 1830-2300
GMT, and even the Concorde couldn't get him to LA
in time for a 6pm PST start. :-)  

I watched pieces from a taped version, but yes, this "year of the women" theme 
was very lame.  Sorry I missed Barbara Streistands presentation.  The only good 
thing resulting from this bupkiss was the montage of great films they would show 
in which women contributed.

Billy Crystal was the best part of the show and it wasn't one of his better 
nights.  So....


		

    Stephen Rae looked cute, and I always find Denzel Washington quite
    decorative.  :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    I, too, cringed when Clint did his "gals" reference, but forgave him
    since he probably didn't think it was an insult, and one of the "gals"
    was his adoring date.  He comes from another whole generation. 
    Besides, he is VERY sensitive to women being acknowledged in real life;
    he helped his ex Sondra Locke not only with acting, but also encouraged
    her directing skills, which is all she does now.
    
    Leslie
    

    I hate the term "gals", too, and I noticed it, but didn't think he
    meant any harm by it.  Afterall, he is over 60, even though he doesn't
    look it!
    
    Lorna
    

    rep. 31,32,33,34
    
    	Where do you people get off with these type of statements in the
    1st place ? saying things like she not in the same leauge as the
    others, this woman just didn't show up at the movie studio in a tight
    skirt and get the role....she has been working hard for many years on
    stage and TV and a few little roles in the movies...she made that movie
    great and in the role as a supporter she did just what was called for
    and maybe a little more. she might not have made you cry or reflect on
    human suffering but what she did do was pull a somewhat dumb movie out
    of the trashbin and into the theatre/video rental store.....
    
    	It bugs me to read what I felt was a personal attack on someone
    doing what they get paid to do....and she did that very well and she
    won on her own merit.
    
    Chris

    I didn't have a vested interest in the Oscars this year, not having
    seen most of the major contenders.  I thought Marisa Tomei
    was outstanding in "My Cousin Vinny", and while I don't
    begrudge her award, I was sorry Judy Davis didn't win, since I've
    long been a fan of hers,a nd she's paid her dues.  Tomei may
    find such early success burdensome (though I hope not, she's
    terrifically talented).
    
    While I expect "Howards End" is more my kind of movie than
    "Unforgiven", I don't mind that Eastwood won; he's definitely
    paid *his* dues!  My favorite winner was indeed Emma Thompson, I've
    liked her ever since the Masterpiece Theater series "Fortunes
    of War."  (Interestingly, she gave a variation of her acceptance
    speech to the NY Circle of Film Critics when she accepted *that*
    award).
    
    And while I question Richard Gere's sincerity, I tried to give
    him the benefit of the doubt when he pleaded with the world
    to send positive thoughts to Den Zhou Ping (sp?).  I certainly
    don't mind when celebrities use their fame to advance worthy
    causes ("worthy" beings ones *I* agree with, ha!).
    
    Classiest acts of the evening:
    
    Liz Taylor, Angela Lansbury, Jodie Foster, with honorable
    mention to Fellini, Sophia Loren and Marcello Mastrioanni,
    and as always, Gregory Peck (the tribute to Audrey Hepburn, showing
    her kissing the hands and touching the people she was trying to help,
    brought tears to my eyes).
    
    Whoopi Goldberg's entrance was fun (she obviously enjoyed dressing
    up in a tacky/formal gown).  Andie McDowell doesn't have the
    style to carry off the 20's look she tried, but Sharon Stone
    was a success in her retro-50's get up. Diane Keaton was
    simply Annie Hall (perhaps an inside joke, to her anyway).
    Natalie Cole looked smashing, but she was dressed in more of
    a costume than a gown.  Liza Minelli needs help.
    
    I also liked that Barbra Streisand gave out the best director
    award.  I am guessing that this was the Award show's producer(s)'
    way of making up for the fact that the Academy members (directors) didn't
    nominate her last year (the members may not have a say in who
    is chosen to present awards), and her speech was apt.
    
    Funny, though I didn't see many of the nominees, I did manage
    to see three movies that won awards: "Last of the Mohicans"
    (sound), "Death Becomes Her" (special effects), and "My Cousin
    Vinny" (the latter two on video).
    
    I suspect the most deserved major award (besides Thompson's) went to Neil
    Jordan for the screenplay of "The Crying Game" (which I plan to see
    soon).
    
    Richard
    

    O.k. I'm breaking down...
    
    Does anyone have this taped?  My I borrow it?  I can arrange pickup or
    pay postage - I'm located at the Mill.
    
    I usually watch bits and pieces but I have school Monday nights now and
    didn't watch it when I got home.
    
    Thanks
    Joyce

    re .58, I loved Emma Thompson in Fortunes of War.  I rented that on
    video one Sunday this past winter, when I wasn't feeling well, and
    watched the entire thing at one stretch.  I was sorry when it was over,
    it was so good.
    
    Also, I agree that if any actress has paid her dues it's Judy Davis. 
    She always delivers an outstanding performance, and she was my top
    choice for Best Supporting Actress.
    
    Lorna
    

  With big women stars complaining  that they were not getting good roles
  to play in Hollywood, it seems like the last year had been the "Year of
  Revenge on Women" for them. It has been one femme fatale movie after
  another, the whacko babysitter, the whacko roommate, the whacko temporary,
  the whacko <you name it>.

  Continuing the trend, my guess is that Bridget Fonda has a couple of
  films already lined up, the whacko schoolteacher, the whacko boss woman,
  the whacko schoolbusdriver, the whacko software engineer ( at DEC, of
  course, :-)), the whacko dental assistant....Look at the bright side.
  You can save so much time writing a new script. 

  :-) 

  Nari

  Fashions are a big thing at the Oscar. Gina Davis looked great this year
compared to last year when she came dressed as Big Bird. Clint Eastwood and
Jack looked great in black tie. Diane Keaton is really getting beat up by the
critics for her outfit, but it does seem to be within her style. I guess she'll
never really stop being Annie Hall. 

  Thanks for the soap update on Jack although I'm curious about the implication
that he's somewhat ashamed about what happened. Hollywood types are always
getting coupled and uncoupled and the publicity almost always gives them a big
boost. If there was a dramatic moment between him and Angelica, it seems that
he would have been wincing all the way to the bank.

  Somehow there seem to be worse things than being "left with two Hollywood
mansions". Last I heard he still has to beat the groupies off with a stick. 
I heard how recently he was on location and some groupie came up and asked
something awkward like "Want to leave to somewhere" to which he replied,
"wrooong verrrrb".

  George

  I just had a thought about Judy Davis not winning the award. Someone pointed
out a while back that the Oscars are won by plurality and that as little as 21%
could win a close vote. I doubt that 21% wins often, but in a close race like
Supporting Actress where everyone probably attracted votes, the winner could
easily have been under 30%. 

  Anyway, I wonder if Judy Davis suffered from Hollywood people boycotting
Woody Alan's film due to either his affair or the child abuse accusation? I
didn't see it mostly because my girlfriend refuse to ever see a Woody Alan
film again and I don't like going to movies alone. 

  Remember, it wouldn't take much. If just a handful of people avoided the
movie that might have made the difference in a close vote. 

  Just a possibility,
  George

    >Sheesh, lighten up!  This file is about criticism and
    >opinion.  Sometimes it's going to be frivolous and
    
    
    OK, so why don't you...and if this file is about criticism, then learn
    to take some.

    re: .65, Judy Davis and politics
    
    It's possible, George (the thought crossed my mind too).
    
    I had a mild argument with someone I watched the Oscars with
    about the appropriateness of political statements at the Oscars.
    I feel that, since the Academy Awards are an industry event, they can't
    help but be political.  Politics (in the broadest sense) play a
    part in the selection of nominees and winners (popularity and
    box office play as much a part as quality), so why all the
    fuss if an occasional winner or presenter takes the opportunity
    to make a political statement?  The wearing of colored ribbons
    at public events is certainly a political statement.
    
    Any other opinions?
    
    Richard

    I was really sickened by all the politics.  Billy Crystal did his
    best but all the bleedingheart droning set a down mood that permeated
    the whole show.
    
    You wanna make a statement, do it with class, like the "spotlight"
    presentations to Hepburn and Taylor.  Or the subtle (?) irony of having
    Barbra hand out Best Director.  But these actors et.al. are being
    recognized for their acting and entertainment skills; there is no
    reason whatsoever for kooks like Richard Gere to be given an open mike
    to discuss their political views.  Let 'em run for office if they want
    their politics to be taken seriously.
    
    Hooray for Tomei!  And the other winners too.  Well-deserved, one and all.
    
      John

    re: .65
    
    I think I'm the one you mean who mentioned about whether a plurality
    wins an Oscar. However, I didn't *claim* that a plurality wins, I
    *asked* if anybody knows whether a plurality wins, since that might
    explain someone winning who most people (at least I would guess
    most people are partisans of one of the other actresses) don't think
    should.
    
    So to reiterate my original question, does anybody *know* how the
    Academy votes?
    
    Thanks.
    
    Ken

    re .67, I agree with Richard.  The political comments didn't bother me
    at all.  In fact, I found it interesting to hear their views.  I'm glad
    that these people, who have money and influence, are taking an interest
    in what goes on in the world around them.
    
    re .68, Richard Gere didn't seem like a "kook" to me.  I thought he
    sounded intelligent and informed.
    
    Lorna
    

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    Well I couldn't stay awake long enough to watch the whole show and from
    the comments I've heard in here and other places it doesn't sound like
    I missed much. Although I'd have to agree that the 'Year of the Women'
    was rather fru-fru (IMO), I throughly enjoyed the film montage they did
    at the beginning!!!! I really haven't sen most of the movies nominated
    so I really didn't have any preferences but I am glad Al Pacino won!!
    ...
    Also I'd have to add this had to be the worst dressed
    year for the Academy!!!!
                            Natalie

RE how they vote.

  From what I've heard, it's s simple vote by members of the Academy of Arts
and Sciences (i.e. most Hollywood people, be they actors, writers, production
people, etc). Who ever gets the most votes, wins. 

  In the old days they use to read the rules. I tried to listen once and I
thought I heard them say that not everyone votes for everything. There are
limits on who votes for most categories and the reason for "Best Picture" is
that all members are eligible to vote in that category. 

  That may or may not have changed since the last time I heard the rules read. 

RE political speeches.

  To me these speeches fall in the category of "things in life you can't
change" as apposed to "things in life you can change". They have been giving
these types of speeches for as long as I've been watching the program.

RE the show in general

  One thing people forget, from critics to fans, is that the Oscar is not the
"World Championship of Movies", rather it's a big party held by the Academy so
that their members can get all dressed up and give each other awards. The fact
that we are invited to look in does not change that much, they are still free
to hold their party, give out their awards, and to say what ever they wish. 

  George 

    re: how the Academy votes
    
    Where's Jerry Boyajian (former Deccie and movie expert) when you need
    him, he knew all about the voting procedures.
    
    From what I understand, the 5000+ members of the Academy nominate in
    groups: directors nominate directors, actors nominate actors,
    cinematographers nominate cinematographers, etc. and everyone nominates
    best picture.  The top five vote-getters in the nomination round in
    each category become the official nominees, then all the members cast
    their vote for the best in all the categories.
    
    From what Geena Davis said at the beginning, there were only 236 films
    that qualified for nominations in 1992, and we all know that most
    of those films weren't Oscar-worthy, so I'm sure the list of films
    that got any nominating votes was relatively small.
    
    Hope that makes sense.
    
    Richard

    I agree with you, Lorna.  I couldn't put Richard Gere in a "kook"
    category if my life depended on it.  I thought he was eloquent and
    inspired and seized the moment for peace.
    
    Leslie

    I mised most of the show.  What did Richard Gere speak about?
    
    -- Mike

    By the way, Gere is a Buddhist, so I'm sure he meant every word.  He
    takes Buddhism VERY seriously.
    
    Leslie

    Gere took a moment before his formal presentation speech to comment
    on the awesome fact that the Awards show was being broadcast to
    1 billion people around the world, including China.  He wondered
    if the Chinese premier Den Zhou Ping (sp?) was watching, and if
    so, he pleaded with him to stop oppressing the people of Tibet, and
    asked that everyone watching send positive thoughts to him to
    let Tibet be free.
    
    Similarly, Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins reminded us of the
    Haitian immigrants who are being held in quarantine because they
    are HIV+ and not being allowed into the U.S.  They pleaded with the
    U.S. government not to victimize these people further, saying that
    having a disease is not a crime (I found this very appropriate
    considering that the majority of people were wearing red
    AIDS awareness ribbons).
    
    The other major political speech was made by the winner of the
    documentary award.  She gave some background on the making of the
    film, and how it had been banned in Panama, and that PBS
    stations here in the U.S. have not agreed to show it (the film
    documents the complicity of the U.S. and Panama in human
    rights violations during the U.S. invasion of Panama).
    
    Richard

    Thanks for the summary.  Based on that description, none of those
    speeches sound particularly offensive.  And the comments of the
    documentary maker appear to have been entirely relevant, since they
    related to the film that she was receiving an award for.
    
    -- Mike

According to an item in today's paper, the producer will not be asking
Richard Gere, Tim Robbins, or Susan Sarandon to present any more awards.

As for voting, I'll look it up next time I'm at the library (there's a
book that contains the full, excruciating details), but my memory is
that it's a simple plurality, though I think there's a threshhold below
which they declare a tie -- in other words, a tie might not be an exact
tie, but rather a "too close to call".  Of course, as readers of fine
print know, only those attending special screenings or otherwise
proving they have seen all nominees can vote in the documentary, short,
and foreign categories.  The description back a few about nominations
is basically correct, though there are some abstruse details around the
tech categories (for instance, the Visual Effects category is nominated
not by the whole movie but by a sample reel, and the number of nominees
is not fixed; hence the "Special Achievement Award" 2 years ago when
only Total Recall got enough votes to qualify).

            Richard Gere is also known for his work in support
            of the Save the Gerbils Foundation.
       
            --Mr Topaz

.79: I thought that story had died a bad death, but I guess I was wrong.

I think it was NPR who did a big Oscar expose a couple years back.
The main point seemed to be that the Academy members were sometimes
too lazy to see all the movies that were nominated, so they'd either
vote for one of the movies they had seen, or give the ballot to their 
hairdresser (or Aunt Tillie for that matter) and have them fill it out.

Silly.

Lisa

    Re: .71:
    
>   One thing people forget, from critics to fans, is that the Oscar is not the
> "World Championship of Movies", rather it's a big party held by the Academy so
> that their members can get all dressed up and give each other awards. The fact
> that we are invited to look in does not change that much, they are still free
> to hold their party, give out their awards, and to say what ever they wish. 
    
    George, I can't believe you really mean what this paragraph implies.
    Of course the Academy is free to run their own awards show any way 
    they like, and I'm glad to hear some presenters won't be invited back.
    But remember this is also one giant promotional *AD* for The Movies.
    
    It is the only day in the year when every actor, producer, writer,
    director, etc., parades in front of a "Murderer's row" of idiotic
    press corps and smiles thru it all, putting up with both preposterous
    and apropos questions and in general acting magnanamous and positive.
    It is, after all, in their own best interest to portray Hollywood in
    an upbeat and positive light.  They are getting tremendous FREE adver-
    tising to one of the largest audiences ever.
    
    Under the circumstances they have no appeal to privacy.  They have a
    responsibility to their audience to provide an awards show, not a
    political grandstand.  The spotlight presentations (Taylor/Hepburn) are
    cheapened when anybody at the mike is allowed to pitch their favorite
    cause, no matter how worthy.
    
    At Hollywood's rally for Bill Clinton I don't care who says what at the
    mike, it's a lopsided political event and has no pretentions otherwise.
    Not so the Oscars.
    
      John

    Could somebody PLEASE confirm that some other organization was ALSO
    resposible for a short documentary fil called "Educating Peter".
    
    When I saw (in the newspaper Tuesday AM) that a film of this name won an 
    Acadamy Award, I did a quick double take.  While I though the
    DEC-funded film on NAS was VERY well done, I believe that it was
    pre-1/1/92.  Please, tell me there WAS some other film called

    
    Rest easy - the film entitled "Educating Peter" that won the Oscar has
    no connection with the eponymous Digital chef d'oeuvre.
    
    gloria

    RE: .40  by 58323::DOONAN 
    
    
    >And Diane Keaton -- a very pretty woman who goes out  of her way to
    >prove otherwise at the Oscars.  Last night was an example, and 
    >remember what she wore when she won for 'Annie Hall'?
    
    I don't remember.  What did she wear when she won for "Annie Hall"? 
    
    Come to think of it, what she win for "Annie Hall"?
    

    She won Best Actress for 'Annie Hall', and came dressed that night in
    the most hideous outfit I've ever seen.  Part man, part woman, all
    horrid.  It's hard to describe; suffice it to say it wasn't flattering
    in the least.

     I don't think her outfit, for this year, would have been too bad if
    she had left off those weird, yellow lensed glasses, and maybe not worn
    the hat.  It was the glasses and hat that made it seem so weird.  The
    rest of it was nothing special, but not too hideous, IMO.
    
    Lorna
    

    I agree on this year; not hideous, and quite possibly unique in a
    positive way had she not worn the hat and glasses.  I guess that's what
    we'll always get from Ms. Keaton!

    Since we're talking fashions here, a friend of mine told me that
    it was suggested that women wear black gowns to the ceremony,
    in protest of the poor treatment of women by and in the movie
    industry.  I remember Geena Davis wore black and I think Barbra
    Steisand did too; had I known, i would have paid more attention.
    
    Billy Crystal's total black attire probably was coincidental, otherwise
    I'm sure he would have mentioned it.
    
    Richard

    Jodi Foster and Anjelica Huston also wore black...I think Michele
    Pfieffer had black on, too.

    Time to revive this topic for 1994?  Before the Academy makes
    their selections, who do the Digital MOVIE noters think should
    at least be *nominated* in the various categories?
    
    			dick
    

>     Time to revive this topic for 1994?  Before the Academy makes
>     their selections, who do the Digital MOVIE noters think should
>     at least be *nominated* in the various categories?

	Even though every one seems to get a thrill out of making
	public their choices, how many really care?  Besides,
	a "Best films of 1993" topic already exists which is bound
	to have a large overlap with this topic .....

    re .91, I care.  I think this sort of thing is fun, and will enter my
    choices later!
    
    Lorna
    

  The big thing we'd get to argue about that we can't argue in the other note
are the actor/actress categories.

  I like Ben Kingsley for supporting actor from Schindler's list, but I think
they are nominating the Nazi Camp director for most supporting awards instead
of Kingsley.

  The Fugitive for best FX based on the train wreck alone.

  George

    Best Movie -  Remains of the Day
    
    Best Actress - Emma Thompson for Remains of the Day
    
    Best Actor - Daniel Day-Lewis for The Age of Innocence
    
    Best Supporting Actor - Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive
    
    Best Supporting Actress - Winona Ryder for The Age of Innocence
    
    
    
    (I haven't seen Schindler's List, Philadelphia, In The Name of The
    Father, or Shadowlands yet.  From what I've heard, seeing all of these
    might change my mind on something.  Don't know.)
    
    
    Lorna
    

    
    best film-
    fearless
    schindler's list
    age of innocence
    
    best actress-
    holly hunter (the piano)
    emanuelle beart (un coeur en hiver)
    rosie perez (fearless)
    
    best supporting actress-
    isabelle rosellini (fearless)
    
    best actor-
    liam neeson (schindler's list)
    jeff bridges (fearless)
    daniel auteil (un coeur en hiver)
    
    best supporting actor-
    tommy lee jones (the fugitive)
    ben kingsley (schindler's list)
    
    best director-
    steven spielberg (schindler's list)
    peter weir (fearless)
    jane campion (the piano)
    martin scorcese (the age of innocence)
    ? (dazed and confused)
    ? (orlando)
    
    best foreign film-
    the wedding banquet (taiwan)
    un coeur en hiver (france)
    especially on sunday (italy)
    man bites dog (belgium)
    
    best documentary-
    forbidden love
    time indefinite
    
    best music-
    schindler's list (john williams)
    un coeur en hiver (maurice ravel ;^)
    orlando (?)
    fearless (?)
    
    
    

I haven't seen all the films that will be evaluated for
awards, but I've seen a lot of the hype.  Which, on that
dimension at least, qualifies me to vote as much as the members
of the Academy.

Here's how I expect/hope the nominations and awards to
go:

Best Picture
	The Piano
	Shadowlands
	In the Name of the Father
	Remains of the Day
	Schindler's List
		(and the winner is Schindler's List)

Best Actor
	Tony Hopkins (Shadowlands)
	Daniel Day-Lewis (In the Name of the Father)
	Liam Neeson (Schindler's List)
	?Ken Branagh (Much Ado About Nothing)?
	?Tom Hanks (Philadelphia)?
		(and the winner is Daniel Day-Lewis)

Best Actress
	Emma Thompson (Remains of the Day/Much Ado)
	Holly Hunter (The Piano)
	Debra Winger (Shadowlands)
	?
	?

Best Supporting Actor
	Harvey Keitel (The Piano)
	Pete Postelthwaite (In the Name of the Father)
	Ben Kingsley (Schindler's List)
	?Edward Fox (Remains of the Day)
	Denzel Washington (Philadelphia)
		(and the winner is Pete Postlethwaite)

Best Supporting Actress
	Winona Ryder (sp?) (Age of Innocence)
	Emma Thompson (In the Name of the Father)
	?one of the actors from (The Joy Luck Club)
	?Holly Hunter (The Firm)
	?
		(and the winner is ???beats me; Ryder?)

Best Director
	Steven Spielberg (Schindler's List - this WILL be the year)
	Jonathan Demme (Philadelphia)
	Jim Sheridan (In the Name of the Father)
	?Ken Branagh (Much Ado)?
	Richard Attenborough (Shadowlands)
		(and the winner is Spielberg????)

After all the hype about "Age of Innocence" (which I enjoyed),
Scorsese's film could very well get stiffed.  Except for 
Costume, which it couldn't possibly lose, and maybe Cinematog.
"Schindler's List" will be prominent, and may just be the film
that breaks Spielberg's jinx.




	

    Did "In the Name of the Father come out in '93? If not, it will
    nominated for next year's Academy Awards.
    
    
    Marilyn

    I think it opened in California in Dec. '93, which will qualify it for
    this year.
    
    It opened in Boston last week.
    
    Lorna
    

    
    well, the nominations were announced at 5:30am in California - has
    anyone heard anything?  All I've heard is 4 best picture nominees:
    
    Schindler's List
    The Piano
    The Fugitive
    Remains of the Day
    
    I don't have a radio at work and the announcements are too late to hit
    the morning NY papers.  Anyone have any more info?  
    
    Phyllis
    

    OK, since folks seem interested - hot off the wire:
    
    ***
    
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	BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. (UPI) -- The nominees announced Wednesday for
the 66th annual Academy Awards, to be presented March 21 in televised
ceremonies at Los Angeles Music Center:
	Picture: ``Schindler's List,'' ``The Fugitive,'' ``In the Name of the
Father,'' ``The Piano,'' ``The Remains of the Day.''
	Actor: Laurence Fishburne, ``What's Love Got To Do With It''; Anthony
Hopkins, ``The Remains of the Day''; Daniel Day-Lewis, ``In the Name of
the Father''; Liam Neeson, ``Schindler's List''; Tom Hanks, 
``Philadelphia.''
	Actress: Holly Hunter, ``The Piano''; Angela Bassett, ``What's Love
Got To Do With It''; Emma Thompson, ``The Remains of the Day''; Debra
Winger, ``Shadowlands''; Stockard Channing, ``Six Degrees of Separation.
''
	Supporting actor: Leonardo DiCaprio, ``What's Eating Gilbert 
Grape?''; Ralph Fiennes, ``Schindler's List''; Tommy Lee Jones, ``The
Fugitive''; John Malkovich, ``In The Line of Fire''; Pete Postlethwaite,
``In the Name of the Father.''
	Supporting actress: Holly Hunter, ``The Firm''; Anna Paquin, ``The
Piano''; Rosie Perez, ``Fearless''; Winona Ryder, ``The Age of
Innocence''; Emma Thompson, ``In the Name of the Father.''
	Director: Jim Sheridan, ``In the Name of the Father''; Jane Campion,
``The Piano''; James Ivory, ``The Remains of the Day''; Steven
Spielberg, ``Schindler's List''; Robert Altman, ``Short Cuts.''
	Original screenplay: ``Dave,'' Gary Ross; ``In The Line of Fire,''
Jeff Maguire; ``Philadelphia,'' Ron Nyswaner; ``The Piano,'' Jane
Campion; ``Sleepless in Seattle,'' Nora Ephron, David S. Ward and Jeff
Arch.
	Adapted screenplay: ``The Age of Innocence,'' Jay Cocks and Martin
Scorsese; ``In the Name of the Father,'' Terry George and Jim Sheridan;
``The Remains of the Day,'' Ruth Prawer Jhabvala; ``Schindler's List,''
Steven Zaillian; ``Shadowlands,'' William Nicholson.
	Foreign-language film: ``Belle Epoque,'' Spain; ``Farewell My
Concubine,'' ``Hong Kong; ''Hedd Wyn,`` United Kingdom; ''The Scent of
Green Papaya,`` Vietnam; ''The Wedding Banquet,`` Taiwan.
	Original score: ``The Age of Innocence,'' Elmer Bernstein; ``The
Firm,'' Dave Grusin; ``The Fugitive,'' James Newton Howard; ``The
Remains of the Day,'' Richard Robbins; ``Schindler's List,'' John
Williams.
	Original song: ``Again'' from ``Poetic Justice,'' by Janet Jackson,
James Harris III and Terry Lewis; ``The Day I Fall In Love'' from 
``Beethoven's 2nd'' by Carole Bayer Sager, James Ingram and Cliff
Magness; ``Philadelphia'' from ``Philadelphia'' by Niel Young; ``Streets
of Philadelphia'' from ``Philadelphia'' by Bruce Springsteen; ``A Wink
and a Smile'' from ``Sleepless in Seattle'' by Marc Shaiman and Ramsey
McLean.
	Documentary feature: ``The Broadcast Tapes of Dr. Peter,'' ``Children
of Fate,'' ``For Better or For Worse,'' ``I Am a Promise: The Children
of Stanton Elementary School,'' ``The War Room.''
	Documentary short subject: ``Blood Ties: The Life and Work of Sally
Mann,'' ``Chicks in White Satin,'' ``Defending Our Lives.''
	Film editing: ``The Fugitive,'' Dennis Virkler, David Finfer, Dean
Goodhill, Don Brochu, Richard Nord and Dov Hoenig; ``In the Line of
Fire,'' Anne V. Coates; ``In the Name of the Father,'' Gerry Hambling; 
``The Piano,'' Veronika Jenet; ``Schindler's List,'' Michael Kahn.
	Art direction: ``Addams Family Values,'' Ken Adam and Marvin March; 
``The Age of Innocence,'' Dante Ferretti and Robert J. Franco; 
``Orlando,'' Ben Van Os and Jan Roeles; ``The Remains of the Day,''
Luciana Arrighi and Ian Whittaker; ``Schindler's List,'' Allan Starski
and Ewa Braun.
	Cinematography: ``Farewell My Concubine,'' Gu Changwei; ``The
Fugitive,'' Michael Chapman; ``The Piano,'' Stuart Dryburgh; 
``Schindler's List,'' Janusz Kaminski; ``Searching for Bobby Fischer,''
Conrad L. Hall.
	Costume design: ``The Age of Innocence,'' Gabriella Pescucci; 
``Orlando,'' Sandy Powell; ``The Piano,'' Janet Patterson; ``The Remains
of the Day,'' Jenny Beaven and John Bright; ``Schindler's List,'' Anna
Biedrzycka-Sheppard.
	Makeup: ``Mrs. Doubtfire,'' Greg Cannom, Ve Neill and Yolanda
Toussieng; ``Philadelphia,'' Carl Fullerton and Alan D'Angerio; 
``Schindler's List,'' Christina Smith, Matthew Mungle and Judith A.
Cory.
	Animated short film: ``Blindscape,'' ``The Mighty River,'' ``Small
Talk,'' ``The Village,'' ``The Wrong Trousers.''
	Live-action short film: ``Black Rider (Schwarzfahrer),'' ``Down on
the Waterfront,'' ``The Dutch Master,'' ``Partners,'' ``The Screw (La
Vis).''
	Sound: ``Cliffhanger,'' Michael Minkler, Bob Beemer and Tim Cooney; 
``The Fugitive,'' Donald O. Mitchell, Michael Herbick, Frank A. Montano
and Scott D. Smith; ``Geronimo: An American Legend,'' Chris Carpenter,
D.M. Hemphill, Bill W. Benton and Lee Orloff; ``Jurassic Park,'' Gary
Summers, Gary Rydstrom, Shawn Murphy and Ron Judkins; ``Schindler's
List,'' Andy Nelson, Steve Pederson, Scott Millan and Ron Judkins.
	Sound effects editing: ``Cliffhanger,'' Wylie Stateman and Gregg
Baxter; ``The Fugitive,'' John Leveque and Bruce Stambler; ``Jurassic
Park,'' Gary Rydstrom and Richard Hymns.
	Visual effects: ``Cliffhanger,'' Neil Krepela, John Richardson, John
Bruno and Pamela Easley; ``Jurassic Park,'' Dennis Muren, Stan Winston,
Phil Tippett and Michael Lantieri; ``The Nightmare Before Christmas,''
Pete Kozachik, Eric Leighton, Ariel Velasco Shaw and Gordon Baker.

    
    thanks!
    
    

    
    RE: .100 by DSSDEV::RUST 
    
>Foreign-language film: ``Belle Epoque,'' Spain; ``Farewell My
>Concubine,'' ``Hong Kong; ''Hedd Wyn,`` United Kingdom; 
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Must be a Welsh language film.  Anybody know anything about it?
    

    BEST PICTURE
	Schindler's List
	The Fugitive
	In the Name of the Father
	The Piano
	The Remains of the Day

    BEST ACTOR
	Laurence Fishburne, ``What's Love Got To Do With It''
	Anthony Hopkins, ``The Remains of the Day''
	Daniel Day-Lewis, ``In the Name of the Father''
	Liam Neeson, ``Schindler's List''
	Tom Hanks, ``Philadelphia''

    BEST ACTRESS
	Holly Hunter, ``The Piano''
	Angela Bassett, ``What's Love Got To Do With It''
	Emma Thompson, ``The Remains of the Day''
	Debra Winger, ``Shadowlands''
	Stockard Channing, ``Six Degrees of Separation''

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
	Leonardo DiCaprio, ``What's Eating Gilbert Grape?''
	Ralph Fiennes, ``Schindler's List''
	Tommy Lee Jones, ``The Fugitive''
	John Malkovich, ``In The Line of Fire''
	Pete Postlethwaite, ``In the Name of the Father''

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
	Holly Hunter, ``The Firm''
	Anna Paquin, ``The Piano''
	Rosie Perez, ``Fearless''
	Winona Ryder, ``The Age of Innocence''
	Emma Thompson, ``In the Name of the Father''

    BEST DIRECTOR
	Jim Sheridan, ``In the Name of the Father''
	Jane Campion, ``The Piano''
	James Ivory, ``The Remains of the Day''
	Steven Spielberg, ``Schindler's List''
	Robert Altman, ``Short Cuts''

    BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
	``Dave,'' Gary Ross
	``In The Line of Fire,'' Jeff Maguire
	``Philadelphia,'' Ron Nyswaner
	``The Piano,'' Jane Campion
	``Sleepless in Seattle,'' Nora Ephron, David S. Ward and Jeff Arch.

    BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
	``The Age of Innocence,'' Jay Cocks and Martin Scorsese
	``In the Name of the Father,'' Terry George and Jim Sheridan
	``The Remains of the Day,'' Ruth Prawer Jhabvala
	``Schindler's List,'' Steven Zaillian
	``Shadowlands,'' William Nicholson

    BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM
	``Belle Epoque,'' Spain
	``Farewell My Concubine,'' Hong Kong
	''Hedd Wyn,'' United Kingdom
	''The Scent of Green Papaya,'' Vietnam
	''The Wedding Banquet,'' Taiwan

    BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
	``The Age of Innocence,'' Elmer Bernstein
	``The Firm,'' Dave Grusin
	``The Fugitive,'' James Newton Howard
	``The Remains of the Day,'' Richard Robbins
	``Schindler's List,'' John Williams

    BEST ORIGINAL SONG
	``Again'' from ``Poetic Justice''
		by Janet Jackson, James Harris III and Terry Lewis
	``The Day I Fall In Love'' from ``Beethoven's 2nd''
		by Carole Bayer Sager, James Ingram and Cliff Magness
	``Philadelphia'' from ``Philadelphia'' by Niel Young
	``Streets of Philadelphia'' from ``Philadelphia'' by Bruce Springsteen
	``A Wink and a Smile'' from ``Sleepless in Seattle''
		by Marc Shaiman and Ramsey McLean.

    BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
	The Broadcast Tapes of Dr. Peter
	Children of Fate
	For Better or For Worse
	I Am a Promise: The Children of Stanton Elementary School
	The War Room

    BEST DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT
	Blood Ties: The Life and Work of Sally Mann
	Chicks in White Satin
	Defending Our Lives

    BEST FILM EDITING
	``The Fugitive,'' Dennis Virkler, David Finfer, Dean Goodhill,
		Don Brochu, Richard Nord and Dov Hoenig
	``In the Line of Fire,'' Anne V. Coates
	``In the Name of the Father,'' Gerry Hambling
	``The Piano,'' Veronika Jenet
	``Schindler's List,'' Michael Kahn

    BEST ART DIRECTION
	``Addams Family Values,'' Ken Adam and Marvin March
	``The Age of Innocence,'' Dante Ferretti and Robert J. Franco
	``Orlando,'' Ben Van Os and Jan Roeles
	``The Remains of the Day,'' Luciana Arrighi and Ian Whittaker
	``Schindler's List,'' Allan Starski and Ewa Braun

    BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
	``Farewell My Concubine,'' Gu Changwei
	``The Fugitive,'' Michael Chapman
	``The Piano,'' Stuart Dryburgh
	``Schindler's List,'' Janusz Kaminski
	``Searching for Bobby Fischer,'' Conrad L. Hall

    BEST COSTUME DESIGN
	``The Age of Innocence,'' Gabriella Pescucci;
	``Orlando,'' Sandy Powell
	``The Piano,'' Janet Patterson
	``The Remains of the Day,'' Jenny Beaven and John Bright
	``Schindler's List,'' Anna Biedrzycka-Sheppard

    BEST MAKEUP
	``Mrs. Doubtfire,'' Greg Cannom, Ve Neill and Yolanda Toussieng
	``Philadelphia,'' Carl Fullerton and Alan D'Angerio
	``Schindler's List,'' Christina Smith, Matthew Mungle
		and Judith A. Cory.

    BEST ANIMATED SHORT FILM
	Blindscape
	The Mighty River
	Small Talk
	The Village
	The Wrong Trousers

    BEST LIVE-ACTION SHORT FILM
	Black Rider (Schwarzfahrer)
	Down on the Waterfront
	The Dutch Master
	Partners
	The Screw (La Vis)

    BEST SOUND
	``Cliffhanger,'' Michael Minkler, Bob Beemer and Tim Cooney
	``The Fugitive,'' Donald O. Mitchell, Michael Herbick, Frank A. Montano
		and Scott D. Smith
	``Geronimo: An American Legend,'' Chris Carpenter, D.M. Hemphill,
		Bill W. Benton and Lee Orloff
	``Jurassic Park,'' Gary Summers, Gary Rydstrom, Shawn Murphy
		and Ron Judkins
	``Schindler's List,'' Andy Nelson, Steve Pederson, Scott Millan
		and Ron Judkins.

    BEST SOUND EFFECTS EDITING
	``Cliffhanger,'' Wylie Stateman and Gregg Baxter
	``The Fugitive,'' John Leveque and Bruce Stambler
	``Jurassic Park,'' Gary Rydstrom and Richard Hymns

    BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
	``Cliffhanger,'' Neil Krepela, John Richardson, John Bruno
		and Pamela Easley
	``Jurassic Park,'' Dennis Muren, Stan Winston, Phil Tippett
		and Michael Lantieri
	``The Nightmare Before Christmas,'' Pete Kozachik, Eric Leighton,
		Ariel Velasco Shaw and Gordon Baker

    I'm kinda surprised that the Fugitive got a nomination for Best Picture
    and Philadelphia didn't.  Not because I feel the former is not
    deserving and the latter is -- I wholeheartedly feel that the Fugitive
    was a much better picture than Philadelphia.  But in this age of
    Political Correctness ad naseum, I really thought Philadelphia would
    get the nod.  
    
    Now, I'm not sure if the Fugitive really was THAT stupendous of a
    movie, but hell, I liked it.  Not enough to pick it over Schindler's
    List, though.
    
    
    cheers,
    
    kim

    
    Did Phildelphia hit the street in time to be up for the '93 Oscars?
    
    DFW

RE          <<< Note 47.105 by RNDHSE::WALL "Show me, don't tell me" >>>

>    Did Phildelphia hit the street in time to be up for the '93 Oscars?
    
  It must have since it was nominated.

  Some movies schedule their premier for DEC 31 then hold back the release
until later just so they will qualify for the Oscars.

  George

    I'll be really impressed if they get both Bruce Springsteen and Neil
    Young to perform their songs at the awards ceremony.  I'd be even more
    impressed if one of them won, but I doubt it.
    
    Lorna
    

    
    really? i'd predict bruce to win, myself.
    
    

    I'm very surprised, that the "House of Spirits" got NO nomination !
    I know it's a German/Danish production, but then at least it could have
    been nominated in the foreign movie category. And none of the actors -
    I always thought that Meryl Streep gets nominated for every movie she
    does - look that Emma Thompson is the new Hollywood darling ;-)
    
    Andrea

    
    House of the Spirits has been released?  Where?  I know someone who saw
    an early, working, preview some time ago but it hadn't been released
    yet.  I'm in NYC and I haven't seen it listed anywhere.
    

    In Europe (Germany, Austria at least- that's what I know) it was 
    released already in October, 93. It was very successful here 
    (no. 2 or 3 for several weeks in the movie top ten).
    
    Andrea (from Austria)
    

    
    Oh ok - I don't think it's reached the US yet.  From what I heard
    about the working preview, it started out wonderfully but ended up
    scattered and folks felt like they were watching two different films. 
    Supposedly they are reworking the 2nd half of the film.  The preview
    here was before October, though, so maybe the version receiving the
    raves in Europe is in fact what we'll be getting.
    
    I loved the book and can't wait to see it.
    
    Phyllis (who has a sister named Andrea but not from Austria :-))
    

    re .108, I don't remember a "real" rock musician ever winning an oscar
    before.  It's usually that pop mush in Disney movies, and such, or else
    some typical love song sung by a typical female vocalist.
    
    Lorna
    

    John Lennon.....for the Let it Be movie....

    re .114, was he still alive at the time?  I don't think I remember the
    Let It Be movie.  I remember A Hard Day's Night, Help, Yellow
    Submarine, and the recent Imagine, and that's it.
    
    Lorna
    

    I do believe so....but lets check....
    
    1970, best score, the Beatles (music, lyrics) Let it Be.
    
    it was a tie with the score of Love Story...

I finally saw 'The Firm' over the weekend.  It's every bit the mediocre movie so 
many of you have said.  But I kept a close eye on Holly Hunter, to see what 
brought on her Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actress.

I'm stumped.  That insignificant turn deserves an Oscar nomination?  She left no 
mark on me whatsoever, in fact the three main characters all performed far more 
effectively.

Oh well, nothing personal against Ms. Hunter.  She apparently comes through in 
spades in 'The Piano', and she's a favorite to win here.  But what a contrast to 
see her nominated twice in the same year where for one movie she is so good and 
the other so unmemorable.

But if Marisa Tomei can do it, anything's possible.

    
    Jon Bonjovi won!  I belive it for the movie "Young Guns II"
    Hmmmmm...well, now I don't remember if it was at the Oscars...
    I could of been at the AMA Awards....Hmmmm.. I'll have to go
    home and check...
    
    

    Who composed the song "Short People?"  I thought that composer
    won an Oscar for best song a few years back (not for Short People!).
    
    Richard

>    Who composed the song "Short People?"  I thought that composer
    
    Randy Newman
    
    p.s., Was there really a TIE? I don't recall ever seeing a tie at the
    Awards...

    rep: tie
    
    well the book listed as a tie, so I would say yes !
    
    here is a list of best song titles from a film
    
    1962
    Days of Wine and Roses
    
    1963
    Call me Irresponsible
    
    1964
    Chim Chim Cher-ee
    
    1965
    The Shawdow of Your Smile
    
    1966
    Born Free
    
    '67
    Talk To The Aniamls
    
    '68
    The Winmills of Your Mind
    
    '69
    Rain Drops Keep Falling on My Head
    
    '70
    For All We Know
    
    '71
    Theme from Shaft
    
    '72
    The Morning After
    
    '73
    The Way We Were
    
    '74
    We May Never Love Like This Again
    
    '75
    Im Easy
    
    '76
    Evergreen
    
    '77
    You Light Up My Life
    
    '78
    Last Dance
    
    '79
    It Gos Like It Gos
    
    '80
    Fame
    
    '81
    Arthur's Theme
    
    '82
    Up Where We Belong
    
    '83
    Flashdance....What a Feeling
    
    '84
    I Just Called To Say I Love You
    
    '85
    Say You, Say me
    
    '86
    Take My Breath Away
    
    '87
    (I've Had) the Time of My Life
    
    '88
    Let the River Run
    
    '89
    Under the Sea
    
    '90
    Sooner or Later (I Always Get My Man)
    
    '91
    Beauty and the Beast
    
    '92
    Whole New World
    
    
    this list is from The Universal Almanac (1994)

    re .121, thanks for posting that, but I didn't see anything by The
    Beatles on that (or Jon Bon Jovi).
    
    I would consider most of those songs to be "popular music" but I
    wouldn't consider any of them to be "real" rock'n'roll in the Bruce
    Springsteen/Neil Young sense.  I'd love to see one of them win.  I
    especially think it would be a riot if Neil Young won,and showed up to
    collect in his torn jeans, flannel shirt and Native American necklace. 
    :-)  (but I doubt it will happen)
    
    Lorna
    

>    wouldn't consider any of them to be "real" rock'n'roll in the Bruce
>    Springsteen/Neil Young sense.  I'd love to see one of them win.

I'd also like to see Bruce up there, however I suspect he may be mightily 
embarrassed to be on the same list as "Talk to the animals" and other such
turkeys.

Mike


>

    what I listed was the Best songs....the Beatles won for Best score.
    
    I believe Jon Bon Jovi was nomiated but did not win....maybe !

    >I'd also like to see Bruce up there, however I suspect he may be
    >mightily embarrassed to be on the same list as "Talk to the animals" and 
    >other such turkeys.
             
       I'd have said that 'Talk to the Animals' was a better song than
    anything Bruce 'canoe' Springsteen was capable of writing :-)
    
    Mikef
    
    

    re: .107
    
    Time to be impressed, Lorna; I heard Bruce and Neil will indeed
    be performing at the awards.
    
    Nancy

    re .126, I'm looking forward to it.  I like Bruce's song, too.
    
    Lorna
    

    For Uk readers, Hedd Wyn, the welsh language film which has been
    nominated for the Best Foreign Film award, is on C4/S4C at 10.35 this
    evening.
    
    Mikef

PICTURE			Schindler's List
ACTOR			Tom Hanks, ``Philadelphia''
ACTRESS			Holly Hunter, ``The Piano''
SUPPORTING ACTOR	Tommy Lee Jones, ``The Fugitive''
SUPPORTING ACTRESS	Anna Paquin, ``The Piano''
DIRECTOR		Steven Spielberg, ``Schindler's List''
ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY	``The Piano,'' Jane Campion
ADAPTED SCREENPLAY	``Schindler's List,'' Steven Zaillian
FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM	``Belle Epoque,'' Spain
ORIGINAL SCORE		``Schindler's List,'' John Williams
ORIGINAL SONG		``Streets of Philadelphia''
				from ``Philadelphia'' by Bruce Springsteen
DOCUMENTARY FEATURE    I Am a Promise: The Children of Stanton Elementary School
DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT Defending Our Lives
FILM EDITING		``Schindler's List,'' Michael Kahn
ART DIRECTION		``Schindler's List,'' Allan Starski and Ewa Braun
CINEMATOGRAPHY		``Schindler's List,'' Janusz Kaminski
COSTUME DESIGN		``The Age of Innocence,'' Gabriella Pescucci
MAKEUP			``Mrs. Doubtfire,'' Greg Cannom,
				Ve Neill and Yolanda Toussieng
ANIMATED SHORT FILM	The Wrong Trousers
LIVE-ACTION SHORT FILM	Black Rider (Schwarzfahrer)
SOUND			``Jurassic Park,'' Gary Summers, Gary Rydstrom,
				Shawn Murphy and Ron Judkins
SOUND EFFECTS EDITING	``Jurassic Park,'' Gary Rydstrom and Richard Hymns
VISUAL EFFECTS		``Jurassic Park,'' Dennis Muren, Stan Winston,
				Phil Tippett and Michael Lantieri

    I confess - except for a snippet here and there, I didn't watch the
    Awards.
    
    I watched Comedy Central instead. They ran banners across the screen
    for every winner, and for random quips (some of 'em attributed to
    individuals courtesy of various on-line services such as Prodigy and
    America On-Line - such is fame!). When Paquin (age 11) won, the banner
    read, "Winner for Best Supporting Actress: Anna Paquin. Jodie Foster
    <or was it Tatum O'neal? I forget...> won when she was only ten. 
    Nya-nya-nya-nya-nya." Gives you some idea of the tone. ;-)
    
    CC put on a "hunk alert" banner when Bruce Springsteen was about to
    perform his "Philadelphia" song, and when he won the award they put
    up a very excited "He won! He won!" - nothing like a little
    partisanship.
    
    They also posted banners saying "You're missing the Thalberg award," or
    "There's a big production number going on at the Awards _right now_,"
    and such like - I found it rather droll. And whenever one of those
    awful Chris Elliot "look what cable can do for you" ads came on, I
    thought, "Yeah, it can _watch other channels for you_! What a brave new
    world!"
    
    So then I went off to read "Schindler's List".
    
    Anarchist in an armchair,
    -b

>     "Winner for Best Supporting Actress: Anna Paquin. Jodie Foster
>     <or was it Tatum O'neal? I forget...> won when she was only ten. 

	It was Tatum O'Neal

    
    	"Paper Moon"?
    
    							GTI
    

    Yes.
    
    E

Not the most exciting Oscars we've ever seen.  Whoopi was passable as a host, 
nothing more, and I could have done without her off-color references to Bob Dole 
and Nancy Reagan (and I'm a DEMOCRAT!).  Billy Crystal is a tough act to follow.

It was nice to see little Anna Paquin get Best Supporting Actress.  I wasn't 
that surprised by this selection; I figured she was right up there in the hunt 
with Ryder and Perez.

    I confess - I watched almost all the awards, turning to my PC during
    some of the duller moments (like the singing and dancing, except for
    Springsteen).
    
    Couldn't watch Comedy Central since I don't get cable or satellite.
    Maybe Beth should host an anti-Oscar party next year :-)
    
    Not normally an Oscar-watcher, what I did see I enjoyed and that
    surprised me enough to keep watching. The academy will be thrilled
    to know that I approve of their selections. Didn't miss Richard Gere
    at all. Enjoyed Whoopi and her comments. I was moved by #83371's
    comments at the end.
    
    Then I went off to read Maggie Thatcher's "The Downing Street Years"
    
    Antichrist in an armchair,
      John

    RE: .130  by 12368::michaud 
    
    >ANIMATED SHORT FILM	The Wrong Trousers
    
    Yippeee.  That means we're sure to see it released on "this" side of
    the pond soon.  For those of you who enjoyed "Creature Comforts", "A
    Day Out", and other works by Peter Lord, be very sure not to miss this.
    

    
    	Do I sense just a bit of sarcasm in that last note??
    
    							GTI

    >>ANIMATED SHORT FILM	The Wrong Trousers
    
    >For those of you who enjoyed "Creature Comforts", "A
    >Day Out", and other works by Peter Lord, be very sure not to miss this.
    
    I believe you mean "A Grand Day Out" by Nick Park.  
    
    I loved all three Nick Park claymations, especially "Creature Comforts"
    and "Wrong Trousers". 

    Jodi-
    
    

    The Wrong Trousers is a truly brilliant piece of animation. I must have
    watched it two dozen times and I still find bits that I missed before.
    
    These characters really come to life and it's hard to believe they are
    only pieces of clay.
    
    ********** out of **********
    
    A must for any classic video collection.
    
    Alan.

    I watched the entire show and I found it a lot more enjoyable than last
    year's.  I thought Whoopi did a good job.  I thought the dance number
    (ballet) was a big improvement over the usual song and dance type
    routine.  I noticed that none of women wore any really hideous and most
    had very attractive outfits on.  
    
    I was thrilled that Bruce Springsteen won, since he has been my
    favorite famous person since 1980.  He looked fantastic, and I think he
    gave the most articulate acceptance speech of anybody.  (I felt bad
    that Tom Hanks' acceptance speech seemed somewhat incoherent.)  Bruce
    is always completely at ease in front of crowds.  I, also, enjoyed
    seeing Neil Young (another nearly life-long favorite) perform.  
    
    The only win that surprised me was Anna Paquin.  The only winner I
    really agreed with was Tommy Lee Jones, but the people I expected to
    have win won.
    
    The only other comment I have is:  Isn't Antonio Bandero gorgeous? 
    *sigh*   I think he's the best looking actor to come down the pike
    since I first saw Mel Gibson.  :-)
    
    Lorna
     

    It's Antonio Banderas, Lorna, and yes, he's gorgeous (I thought it
    was great that Tom Hanks said Antonio was the only person he'd
    want to be with if he weren't with his wife [whom he referred to as his
    lover, which I thought made a nice connection between non-gays and
    gays, who don't have equivalent terms for husband/wife]).
    
    I always enjoy the Oscar show, whether it's dull, glamorous, political,
    or entertaining (it's *all* entertainment, after all).  On the whole,
    I think the show was a bit sedate, possibly taking its cue from
    the seriousness of the major nominee/winner, "Schindler's List." It
    would have been hard to have a frivolous show with such a dramatic
    subject in the background.
    
    I did miss the usual glamor; I mean, when Goldie Hawn (who looked
    fabulous) and Sharon Stone are the most glamorous people there, it says
    something about the "new" Hollywood.  Whoopi was ok, I'm sure
    expectations are too high after Billy Crystal, and she was probably
    subdued due to the expectations on  her (not to be too outrageous).  A
    lot of her jokes fell flat, not sure if it was the delivery or the
    content.  I doubt she'll be back next year.
    
    Richard
    
    

    Hanks's speech seemed pretty carefully crafted.  He wasn't my choice for 
    the Oscar, but I thought his and Springsteen's were the best acceptance 
    speeches.  Anna Paquin was a delight; I think I do agree with her
    Oscar.  
    
    Generally, I thought it was a long, boring night, but I sat through it
    as I always do, and will again next year, silly as it is.
    
    -Stephen

I was impressed as always with the difference between
the deliveries of the pros and the people who couldn't
be bothered.  In the pro category were those who'd 
rehearsed and made an attempt to learn the presentation
lines so we wouldn't see them reading the teleprompter
(Emma Thompson, Harrison Ford, Al Pacino, Liam Neeson,
for example.  And Clint Eastwood whose heart was in 
the right place :-)). 

Also pros were those who had done more than
write their thanks on a 3x5 card and then read
it (e.g., Tom Hanks, Spielberg).  Holly Hunter was
no surprise; she should have been better prepared, 
charming as she was.  Tommy Lee Jones was a disgrace 
and I'll bet he's regretting it now (as we all got to 
see was 60 seconds of his shaven dome while he read 
his card). 

Chris

Re: .143, .144

	I actually dislike prepared speaches and I especially disliked
	Tom Hanks speach because he seemed like he was acting a scene
	out of a movie.

	I like the spontanious (and short) speaches, and especially
	enjoyed both Holly Hunter and Anna P. acceptences because of
	the real surprise and delight in their eyes.

    Re. the previous few,
    
    I also disliked Tom Hanks's speech. I knew I would the minute he
    started with "Here's what I know...." IMO he was trying to sound so
    articulate and "relevant" that he failed miserably in both. He 
    reminded me of John Voight some (a lot) of years ago.
    
    I missed Bruce Springsteen's one, I've heard it was good. As ofr Anna 
    Paquin, I was really afraid she wouldn't be able to talk but once 
    she got through her wanting not to cry, *she* was delightfully
    prepared.
    
    
    I was also touched by the last receiver of the Best Movie Oscar,
    # 33xxx. He deserved his standing ovation, if only for being proxy 
    to all the millions that couldn't be there......
    
    
    Marilyn

    
    There was about fifteen people at our house watching this, and after
    Tom Hanks gave his speech there was not a dry eye in the house.
    
    He may have known what he was going to say --- but he meant it! He
    spoke from his heart about something he believes in. That was evident
    to everyone I was with and I'm amazed that some people didn't feel
    it. I mean, come on, the guy was baring his soul...
    
    -James          

re:  Hanks, Pa[c?]quin, and the third producer of 
"Schindler's List" - absolutely!  There were some 
brilliant moments.  With the exception of that last
mention, they did not come off of 3x5 cards.  

    My little Oscar soapbox:
    
    Overall, the show was subdued, on time, and tolerable. Only one number
    (why have a production number at ALL for the soundtrack award? Simply
    show an effective piece of the film where the soundtrack plays an
    important part.  Sheesh...), mostly tasteful clothing, few surprises
    award wise, almost everyone stuck to their allotted time to say thanks
    --a practice I really don't agree with since it IS their moment in the
    sun--and only one speech that got under my skin.  It was, alas,
    Tom Hank's speech.
                                        
    It's perhaps a bit cynical of me (okay, it's a lot cynical of me), but 
    I do think the only reason he won the Best Actor award was that 
    "Philadelphia" was the "timely" movie of the year -- Tom Hank's
    performance, while adequate, certainly wasn't even nomination worthy.  
    Denzel Washington had a much better performance and he was not
    nominated -- I suspect if he'd had the lead role, he might have been.
    
    It's Hollywood trying to show that it cares.  I wasn't moved by Hank's
    speech, I was more put off by it because it seemed so predictable--play
    a characer with AIDS, get nominated, win, make speech about AIDS--
    what else was he going to say?  It should be noted that I *don't* doubt
    the sincerity of his speech, anymore than I doubt that Richard Gere was
    sincere when he talked about whatever pissed the Academy off enough not
    to invite him back as a presenter.  Although I do doubt, just a little,
    that if Tom Hank's wife were to vanish off the face this the earth, that 
    he'd *really* go out with Antonio B.  :)
    
    Now, I realize this is all subjective, of course, there will be those
    that really think Hank's performance WAS the best of the year, but *I*
    really, really, really think if the movie had been about a lawyer who
    had been ostracized for some other reason than AIDS (say, if he'd been
    fired for being gay, and didn't have a terrible disease), and Hanks
    gave basically the same level of performance with the same uneven
    script, he would NOT have won. Someone else said it elsewhere --
    anybody could have played that role.  
    
    Off that subject, the only other award I tended to disagree with was
    the Supporting Actor award -- yes, I know Tommy Lee Jones hammed up his
    role enough to make the Fugitive really fun.  But his character was
    very two dimensional -- you didn't see anything beyond the "Obsessed
    Cop", which had been done before.  Tommy Lee Jones didn't add anything
    particularly noteworthy to the the character other than his Cocky,
    Loud, Slightly Over the Topness that he's done before (and to better
    effect, since the movie genre fit better) in say, "Nate and Hayes".  He
    played a dogged, loud, brash, slightly over the top pirate.  Harrison
    Ford did a great job with a TV character -- he added depth and a
    humanity to Richard Kimball that Tommy Lee Jones's character lacked. 
    He was a TV cop on a movie screen.  Funny lines, yes.  But Funny Lines
    do not an Oscar warrant, I think.
    
    I would have given the award to Ralph Fiennes, who certainly brought
    his character to life with such charming maleficience that made you almost
    wonder if he was really acting.  I could believe that a guy like Arman
    Goetz was real.  If he hadn't done such a good job protraying Goetz,
    to provide contrast to Liam Neeson's Schindler, Schindler's List would
    have been far, far less a powerful movie.
    
    Needless to say, I'm happy that Spielberg won -- I figured if he didn't
    get the Oscar for "List", he wasn't ever going to get one, period.  He
    was gracious, and a better sport about his "long draught" that I would
    have been. :)  His "to be expected" part of his speech, about the
    Holocaust victims, was shorter than Hanks, which made it more palatable
    to me.
    
    Holly Hunter looks weird with really long hair.  :) Anna Pacquin was
    cute and big eyed -- it was nice seeing someone win who acted like they
    had won something really cool.  In a sea of professionals whose job it
    is to act at odds to what they might really be thinking or feeling, she
    just acted like a normal kid.   
    
    Not a bad night.  A little tame, but I think that was the goal. 
    Whoopie is an all right host, but restrained by the fact she's on
    national TV.  If they're gonna get comedians as hosts, they ought to
    let them write their own material, rather than read teleprompters.  And
    yes, I enjoyed the presenters who at least faked not reading the
    teleprompter than those who, like Johnny Depp, fairly stared into the
    camera as they read thier lines, ala Bob Hope.  And hey, Christian
    Slater did the Kevin Costner "The Bodyguard" haircut thing.  Ouch. 
    Must be catching....  :)
    
    
    

    
    Although I agree that the AIDS connection played into Hanks' win, I
    don't think that was the main reason why he won.
    
    I think everyone likes Tom Hanks. He has almost always done great work
    in light comedy roles - and to see him do this heavy role made people 
    stand up and vote. Put that together with his "great guy" reputation, and
    the AIDS pc stuff, and you get a winner. 
    
    Especially since the other actors up for the award - were not as likely
    to win for other reasons - 2 had just won one, Nesson's role was not
    quite meaty enough (he'll get one withn a couple years), and Larry
    Fishburne is too new - but give him a couple more years, too.
    
    As for Denzel being better than Hanks... could be, but everyone knows
    he's good, his got an Oscar and had lots of noms, whereas Hanks'
    ability in this type of role was a surprise.
    
    -James 
                                             

    Re .149:
    
>    I would have given the award to Ralph Fiennes, who certainly brought
>    his character to life with such charming maleficience that made you almost
>    wonder if he was really acting.  
    
    Among the post-Oscar publicity I saw a clip of interviews with some of
    the Schindler survivors. One woman said that when she met Fiennes in
    character, he reminded her so much of the real Goeth that she froze,
    and he said, "I'm sorry; I'm just an actor..."
    
    [I wish he'd won, too; I wanted to get a chance to see him as other
    than a monster (and that's just from the previews - I haven't seen
    "List" yet!). Oh, btw, I found him listed in the casts of "Waterland"
    and "Baby of Macon," neither of which I've seen...]
    
    -b

    Re. the last few,
    
    I too would have given Ralph Fiennes the Oscar for his portrayal of
    Amon Goetz. It is quite interesting to note that, having played such an
    evil character (albeit charming at times), he himself seems to be liked
    by everyone. Myself, I would think twice about taking a role like that.
    
    I also would have given Liam Neeson the Oscar for Oskar. I think his
    performance was every bit as believable as Tom Hanks's. The reason 
    I think he and perhaps Fiennes did not get it, is because there have
    been too many "foreigners" getting the Oscars lately, to wit, Anthony
    Hopkins, Emma Thompson, et al. (Did Daniel Day Lewis win one, too?)
    
    I think they wanted to let the Oscars stay at home this year....
    
    
    Marilyn

    re .152, Daniel Day-Lewis won an oscar for My Left Foot, but he would
    have been my personal choice this year as well.  I thought his
    performance as Jerry Conlon was the best of the year, and I saw all the
    nominated movies except Schindler's List.  (I've been putting that off
    because I'm reluctant to be put in a position to see so much horror.)
    
    I thought Anthony Hopkins gave the 2nd best performance in The Remains
    of the Day, but I knew neither he nor D-L would get another oscar this
    soon.  
    
    I enjoyed Hanks' performance (I always like him in movies), but as
    others have said I was actually more impressed by Denzel Washington's
    performance in Philadelphia.  Denzel Washington won a Best Supporting
    oscar for Glory, but he has never won a Best Actor, and I think he is
    one of the best around now.
    
    Lorna
    

    
    i am somewhat distressed that anna paquin won. not so much for
    her performance which was quite good, but for the sleight to the
    adult women. it also highlights the real dearth of female roles.
    
    i was a little disappointed, though not surprised, that elmer
    bernstein didn't win for 'the age of innocence'.
    
    i'm glad tommy lee jones won, though i tend to agree that other
    performances might have been better.
    
    i'm glad 'schindler's list' won as much as it did, i think it
    deserves it, and liam neeson will get another chance. neeson
    would have been my choice over tom hanks, whom i like a lot,
    though i didn't see 'philadelphia'.
    
    

>     i am somewhat distressed that anna paquin won. not so much for
>     her performance which was quite good, but for the sleight to the
>     adult women.

	I don't understand.  You wouldn't give her the award because
	she is young?  Sounds like age discrimatation to me ....

    Can't resist a few comments to the previous few...
    
    I haven't seen "Schindler's List"  yet either and I'm willing to bet
    Fiennes' (sp?) performace was the best in the supporting actor
    category. But a friend of mine always says (and it's usually true) that
    the supporting actor award goes to sentiment/popularity (e.g. in 1985
    Don Ameche winning for "Cocoon" over Klaus Brandauer for "Out of
    Africa) while the supporting actress award is usually deserved (maybe
    last year when Maris Tomei won was an exception to that, I think the
    voting was so split among the others that Tomei won by default). 
    Anyway I also haven't seen "The Piano" but from the clips, it looks
    like Paquin not only played a role, but interpreted Holly Hunter's role
    as well.  The Academy also has a history of awarding Oscars in the lead
    and supporting categories in the same movie (e.g. "Mrs. Miniver",
    "Going My Way" etc.)
    
    As for "Philadelphia" I didn't seen the other lead actor nominees.
    Maybe Hanks' wasn't the best in the bunch, but I think his award
    well-deserved in its own right.
    
    Here's Tom Hanks' acceptance speech, it seems a lot less inarticulate
    than when I listened to it
    
    
    "I could not be standing here without that undying love that was
    just in the ballad, not by Bruce, but by Neil Young, And I have that
    in a lover that is so close to find we should all be able to
    experience such heaven right here on earth.
	
    I know also that - I shouldn't be doing this - I should not	be
    here, but I am because of the union of such film makers: Ed Saxon,
    Ron Nyswanner, Christie Ziatac Fujimoto - Jonathon	Demme, who seems to
    have these (the Oscar in his hand)	attached to his limbs for every
    actor that has ever worked	with him of late.
	
    And a cast that includes Antonio Banderas, who, second to my	
    lover, is the only person I would trade for.
	
    And a cast that includes many other people, but the actor who
    really put his film image at risk, and was shown because	of his
    integrity, Mr. Denzel Washington, who I really must	share this with.
	
    I would not be standing here if it weren't for two very important
    men in my life, two that I hadn't spoken with for a while, but I had
    the pleasure just the other evening, Mr. Raleigh Farnsworth, who was
    my high school drama teacher, who taught me "Act  well the part,
    there all the glory lies."	And one was my classmate under Mr.
    Farnsworth, Mr. John Gilkerson.
	
    I mention on their names because they are two of the finest gay	
    Americans, two wonderful men, that I had the good fortune to be
    associated with, to fall under their inspiration at such a young
    age.  And I wish my babies could have the same sort	of teacher and the
    same sort of friend.
	
    And there lies my dilemma here tonight.  I know that my work in
    this case is magnified by the fact the streets of heaven are too
    crowded with angels.  We know their names.  They number a thousand
    for each of the red ribbons we wear here tonight.  They finally rest
    in the warm embrace of the	Creator of us all, a healing embrace that
    cools their	fevers, that clears their skin, and allows their eyes to
    see	the simple self-evident common-sense truth that is made	manifest by
    the benevolent Creator of us all, and was	written down on paper by
    wise men, tolerant men, in the city	of Philadelphia two hundred years
    ago.
	
    God bless you all, God have mercy on us all, and God bless	
    America."

    
    re:.155
    
    besides it being indicative of the dearth of women's roles, it
    seems inconceiveable that a male child would ever beat out an
    adult male actor. that says something about our society.
    
    

    RE:  .138  by 7892::SLABOUNTY 
    
    	>Do I sense just a bit of sarcasm in that last note??
    
    Sheesh!  Am I getting typecast or what?
    
    No, I wasn't being sarcastic, but I did manage to misattribute the
    film to Peter Lord instead of Nick Park.  It's a GREAT film.  Don't
    miss it.
    

    re. Anna Pacquin: Without regard to if she was the best of the
    nominated, I think for a child winning an Oscar is more a burden than
    an enrichment.
    
    I was really glad, that Bruce Springsteen won. 
    
    And to say it with the local TV commentary:
    "the most import Oscar this night was Oskar Schindler".
    
    A.

    
    The Oscar winning "The Wrong Trousers" will be playing as part of Spike
    and Mike's animation fest the next three weekends at the Coolidge
    Corner Theatre in Brookline. 
            
    Friday 	7:15, 9:30 and midnight
    Saturday 	2:30, 7:15, 9:30 and midnight
    Sunday 	2:30, 7:15
    
    Admission $7 at the door, bargain matinees $5.
    

    
    "The wrong trousers" is one of the best animated stories I've seen in a
    long time......worth a look.
    
    
    
    Ian

It was on TV on BBC2 on Easter Monday and is availaible on Video over here

I now its a bit of blinding animation but isn't $5-$7 a bit excessive for
what is 30 minutes of enjoyment?

    RE: .162  by 42326::BOWEO 
    
    >I now its a bit of blinding animation but isn't $5-$7 a bit excessive
    >for what is 30 minutes of enjoyment?
    
    It's part of a travelling animation festival.  The full program usually
    runs about as long as your average feature.  There are two outfits in
    the US who put these shows together.  Sometimes it's billed as the
    International Tournee of Animation, or it may be yet another Spike &
    Mike's Sick & Twisted Animation.  I think one company is called
    Expanded Entertainment and the other is Mellow Yellow Productions.
    
    They are almost always worth the ticket price.  They also market
    compilation videos.
    

>    the US who put these shows together.  Sometimes it's billed as the
>    International Tournee of Animation, or it may be yet another Spike &
>    Mike's Sick & Twisted Animation.  I think one company is called
    
    The truly awful Spike & Mike (the Starbuck's of animation) seem to have
    dibs on "The Wrong Trousers" right now -- at least, having succeeded in
    yanking it out of an Academy-award-wining-shorts program in Berkeley,
    they must have _some_ sort of rights to it.  But don't make the mistake
    of looking for and going to their late night "Sick & Twisted" shows:
    they only show stuff like Nick Park in their "normal" shows.  No
    warning given consumers, of course, which is why I'm passing one along.
    
    Nevertheless, a pretty good lineup this year.  I thought "The Wrong
    Trousers" was plot-heavy compared to "A Grand Day Out", but still a lot
    of fun.  New Englanders and Midwesterners should enjoy "The Village",
    too.
    
    Ray

    And if you're really lucky when you go to Mike and Spikes 
    Animation Festival, you get to play with a giant beachball
    before the show begins.
    
    Having never been to anything *but* Mike and Spikes (and I've
    been to probably 10 of them), I can't imagine how they can
    be considered so bad (at least by RDAVIS).  Please explain
    why you think they're the 'Starbucks' of animation.  
    
    If they *are* the 'Starbucks' of animation, at least you stay awake :^)
    
    Jodi-

    
    Spike and Mike's Sick and Twsited Festival of Animation *definitely*
    lived up to it's name the last few times it came through ( it'll be
    back at the Coolidge Corner Theatre this fall ).  Totally gross, and
    totally hilarious ( if you like that sort of thing, which I do :-) ).
    
    	The normal festivals are quite good, and as someone already said
    *well* worth the price of admission.  This time around, besides _The
    Wrong Trousers_, they also have two Academy Award nominees, although I
    forget which ones...
    
    	And, please enlighten me - what are 'Starbucks'?  I only gather
    it's a less than favorable comparison . . .
    
    					- Jim
                                             

Oh so sorry, I was mistaken I thought when you said festival it was like a
film festival where they have various films on throughout the week(end).

Oliver

    Maybe this deserves it's own topic, but here's the line-up this time
    around . . 
    
    Iddy Biddy Beat ( Mo Willems )
    Blindscape ( Stephen Palmer ) *Oscar nominee*
    Rock, Paper, Scissors ( Jeremy Cantor )
    Legacy ( Darren Butts )
    The Wrong Trousers ( Nick Park ) *Oscar winner*
    Britannia ( Joanna Quinn )
    I Love You Too ( Josko Marusic )
    Jurassic Park ( Scott Nordlund/Mark Osborne - Music by Wierd Al :-) )
    Personal Hell ( Dana Hanna )
    Five Female Persuasions ( Peter Hixson )
    Better Than Grass ( Bonnie Leick )
    The Village ( Mark Baker, maker of The Hill Farm ) *Oscar nominee*
    N'Cest Pas ( Sherie Pollack )
    
    					- Jim

	Well it's supposedly official, after both Billy Crystal and
	Whoppie Goldberg turned down the offer to host this years
	award show on March 22, the #3 choice has accepted.  Yes,
	that's right, David Letterman will host it.

	Dave supposedly joked that this years show will only be 40
	minutes long and instead of statutes they will give away cars.

    I thought Dave would give our canned hams instead. ;.)
    

The AMPAS has a homepage now, still under construction.

http://www.oscars.org/ampas/

	Well the nominations have been announced just a few minutes ago.
	Forest Gump leads with the most nominations this year with 13.

	Best Actress nominations: Jodie Foster for Nell, Jessica Lang
	for Blue Sky, Wynona Ryder for Little Woman, ....

	Best Actor: Tom Hanks for Forest Gump, John Travolta for
	Pulp Fiction .....

	Does anyone have the full list off the Internet yet? (Chris,
	that WWW page you listed, would that have it?)

 A couple more that I can remember hearing this morning:

	Actress - Susan Sarandon for "The Client"

	Actor -  Morgan Freeman for "The Shawshank Redemption"
	         And I think the actor in "The Madness of King George"
	
	Best Picture -	Forrest Gump
			Four Weddings and a Funeral
			Pulp Fiction
			The Shawshank Redemption
			Quiz Show (??? - I think)

    Best Picture:	Forrest Gump
    			Four Weddings and a Funeral
    			Pulp Fiction
    			Quiz Show
    			The Shawshank Redemption
    
    Best Actor:		Morgan Freeman (Shawshank)
    			Tom Hanks (Gump)
    			Nigel Hawthorne (King George)
    			Paul Newman (Nobody's Fool)
    			John Travolta (Pulp Fiction)
    
    Best Actress:	Jodie Foster (Nell)
    			Jessica Lange (Blue Sky)
    			Miranda Richardson (Tom & Viv)
    			Winona Ryder (Little Women)
    			Susan Sarandon (The Client)
    
    Best Director:	Woody Allen (Bullets)
    			Robert Zemeckis (Gump)
    			Quentin Tarantino (Pulp)
    			Robert Redford (Quiz)
    			Krzystov Kieslowski (Red)
    
    Supporting Actress:	Rosemary Harris (Tom & Viv)
    			Helen Mirren (King George)
    			Uma Thurman (Pulp)
    			Dianne Weist (Bullets)
    			Jennifer Tilly (Bullets)
    
    Supporting Actor:	Samuel L Jackson (Pulp)
    			Martin Landau (Ed Wood)
    			Chazz Palminteri (Bullets)
    			Paul Scofield (Quiz)
    			Gary Sinise (Gump)
    
    Most Nominations:	Forrest Gump			13
    			Bullets over Broadway	 	 7
    			Pulp Fiction		 	 7
    			The Shawshank Redemption 	 7
    			The Lion King		 	 4
    			The Madness of King George       4
    			Quiz Show			 4
    			Legends of the Fall		 3
    			Little Women			 3
    			Red				 3
    			Speed				 3

Would you believe this info did NOT come from the Web page?!  Useless...



ACADEMY AWARDS 1994 (Nominees Only)

-BEST PICTURE NOMINEES-

FORREST GUMP
FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL
PULP FICTION
QUIZ SHOW
THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION

-BEST DIRECTOR NOMINEES-

Woody Allen for BULLETS OVER BROADWAY
Robert Zemeckis FORREST GUMP
Quentin Tarantino for PULP FICTION
Robert Redford for QUIZ SHOW
Krzysztof Kieslowski for RED

-BEST ACTOR NOMINEES-

Morgan Freeman for THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION
Tom Hanks for FORREST GUMP
Nigel Hawthorne for THE MADNESS OF KING GEORGE
Paul Newman for NOBODY'S FOOL
John Travolta for PULP FICTION

-BEST ACTRESS NOMINEES-

Jodie Foster for NELL
Jessica Lange for BLUE SKY
Miranda Richardson for TOM & VIV
Winona Ryder for LITTLE WOMEN
Susan Sarandon for THE CLIENT

-BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR NOMINEES-

Samuel L. Jackson for PULP FICTION
Martin Landau for ED WOOD
Chazz Palminteri for BULLETS OVER BROADWAY
Paul Scofield for QUIZ SHOW
Gary Sinise for FORREST GUMP

-BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS NOMINEES-

Rosemary Harris for TOM & VIV
Helen Mirren for THE MADNESS OF KING GEORGE
Uma Thurman for PULP FICTION
Jennifer Tilly for BULLETS OVER BROADWAY
Dianne Wiest for BULLETS OVER BROADWAY

-BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY NOMINEES-

Woody Allen & Douglas McGrath for BULLETS OVER BROADWAY
Richard Curtis for FOUR WEDDINGS AND A FUNERAL
Frances Walsh and Peter Jackson for HEAVENLY CREATURES
Quentin Tarantino & Roger Avary for PULP FICTION
Krzysztof Piesiewicz and Krzysztof Kieslowski for RED

-BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY NOMINEES-

Eric Roth for FORREST GUMP
Alan Bennett for THE MADNESS OF KING GEORGE
Robert Benton for NOBODY'S FOOL
Paul Attanasio for QUIZ SHOW
Frank Darabont for THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION

-BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM NOMINEES-

BEFORE THE RAIN (Macedonia)
BURNT BY THE SUN (Russia)
EAT DRINK MAN WOMAN (Taiwan)
FARINELLI: IL CASTRATO (Belgium)
STRAWBERRY AND CHOCOLATE (Cuba)

-BEST ORIGINAL SCORE NOMINEES-

Alan Silvestri for FORREST GUMP
Elliot Goldenthal for INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE
Hans Zimmer for THE LION KING
Thomas Newman for LITTLE WOMEN
Thomas Newman for THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION

-BEST ORIGINAL SONG NOMINEES-

CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE TONIGHT from THE LION KING, by Elton John (Music) and
Tim Rice (Lyrics)
CIRCLE OF LIFE from THE LION KING, by Elton John (Music) and Tim Rice
(Lyrics)
HAKUNA MATATA from THE LION KING, by Elton John (Music) and Tim Rice (Lyrics)

LOOK WHAT LOVE HAS DONE from JUNIOR, by Carole Bayer Sager, James Newton
Howard, James Ingram and Patty Smyth (Music & Lyrics)
MAKE UP YOUR MIND from THE PAPER, by Randy Newman (Music & Lyrics)

-BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE NOMINEES-

COMPLAINTS OF A DUTIFUL DAUGHTER, D/D Production, Deborah Hoffmann, producer
D-DAY REMEMBERED, Guggenheim Productions, Inc. for the National D-Day Museum,
Charles Guggenheim, producer
FREEDOM ON MY MIND, Clarity Film Production, Connie Field and Marilyn
Mulford, producers
A GREAT DAY IN HARLEM, Castle Hill, Jean Bach Production, Jean Bach, producer
MAYA LIN: A STRONG CLEAR VISION, American Film Foundation/ Sanders and Mock
Production, Freida Lee Mock and Terry Sanders, producers

-BEST DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT NOMINEES-

BLUES HIGHWAY, Half Court Pictures, Ltd./ National Geographic Society, Vince
DiPersio and Bill Guttentag, producers
89MM OD EUROPY, Studio Filmowe "Kalejdoskop"/Telewizja Polska, Marcel
Lozinski, producer
SCHOOL OF THE AMERICAS ASSASSINS, Richter Production, Robert Richter,
producer
STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART, Woman Vision Production, Dee Mosbacher and Frances
Reid, producers
A TIME FOR JUSTICE, Guggenheim Productions, Inc. for the Southern Poverty Law
Center, Charles Guggenheim, producer

-BEST FILM EDITING NOMINEES-

Arthur Schmidt for FORREST GUMP
Frederick Marx, Steve James and Bill Haugse for HOOP DREAMS
Sally Menke for PULP FICTION
Richard Francis-Bruce for THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION
John Wright for SPEED

-BEST ART DIRECTION/SET DECORATION NOMINEES-
Santo Loquasto (Art Direction) and Susan Bode (Set Decoration) for BULLETS
OVER BROADWAY
Rick Carter (Art Direction) and Nancy Haigh (Set Decoration) for FORREST GUMP
Dante Ferretti (Art Direction) and Francesca Lo Schiavo (Set Decoration) for
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE
Lilly Kilvert (Art Direction) and Dorree Cooper (Set Decoration) for LEGENDS
OF THE FALL
Ken Adam (Art Direction) and Carolyn Scott (Set Decoration) THE MADNESS OF
KING GEORGE

-BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY NOMINEES-

Don Burgess for FORREST GUMP
John Toll for LEGENDS OF THE FALL
Piotr Sobocinski for RED
Roger Deakins for THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION
Owen Roizman for WYATT EARP

-BEST COSTUME DESIGN NOMINEES-

Lizzy Gardiner and Tim Chappel for THE ADVENTURES OF PRISCILLA, QUEEN OF THE
DESERT
Jeffrey Kurland for BULLETS OVER BROADWAY
Colleen Atwood for LITTLE WOMEN
April Ferry for MAVERICK
Moidele Bickel for QUEEN MARGOT

-BEST MAKEUP NOMINEES-

Rick Baker, Ve Neill and Yolanda Toussieng for ED WOOD
Daniel C. Striepeke, Hallie D'Amore and Judith A. Cory for FORREST GUMP
Daniel Parker, Paul Engelen and Carol Hemming for MARY SHELLEY'S FRANKENSTEIN

-BEST ANIMATED SHORT FILM NOMINEES-

THE BIG STORY, Spitting Image Production, Tim Watts and David Stoten,
producers
BOB'S BIRTHDAY, Snowden Fine Animation for Channel Four/National Film Board
of Canada Production, Alison Snowden and David Fine, producers
THE JANITOR, Vanessa Schwartz Production, Vanessa Schwartz, producer
THE MONK AND THE FISH, Folimage Valence Production, Michael Dudok de Wit,
producer
TRIANGLE, Gingco Ltd. Production for Channel Four, Erica Russell, producer

-BEST LIVE-ACTION SHORT FILM NOMINEES-

FRANZ KAFKA'S IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE, Conundrum Films Production, Peter
Capaldi and Ruth Kenley-Letts, producers
KANGAROO COURT, Lava Entertainment Production, Sean Astin and Christine
Astin, producers
ON HOPE, Chanticleer Films Production, JoBeth Williams and Michele McGuire,
producers
SYRUP, First Choice Production, Paul Unwin and Nick Vivian, producers
TREVOR, A Rajski/Stone Production, Peggy Rajski and Randy Stone, producers

-BEST SOUND NOMINEES-

Donald O. Mitchell, Michael Herbick, Frank A. Montano and Arthur Rochester
for CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
Randy Thom, Tom Johnson, Dennis Sands and William B. Kaplan for FORREST GUMP
Paul Massey, David Campbell, Christopher David and Douglas Ganton for LEGENDS
OF THE FALL
Robert J. Litt, Elliot Tyson, Michael Herbick and Willie Burton for THE
SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION
Gregg Landaker, Steve Maslow, Bob Beemer and David R. B. MacMillan for SPEED

-BEST SOUND EFFECTS EDITING NOMINEES-

Bruce Stambler and John Leveque for CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
Gloria S. Borders and Randy Thom for FORREST GUMP
Stephen Hunter Flick for SPEED

-BEST VISUAL EFFECTS NOMINEES-

Ken Ralston, George Murphy, Stephen Rosenbaum and Allen Hall for FORREST GUMP
Scott Squires, Steve Williams, Tom Bertino and John Farhat for THE MASK
John Bruno, Thomas L. Fisher, Jacques Stroweis and Patrick McClung for TRUE
LIES


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	See .171

    
    
    Ok people.   who do you 'all think got neglected??????
    
    ..> ie. Interview with the Vampire's Kirsten Dunst/
    		Hoop Dreams, to name a few.

SWAM2::SMITH_MA - No, it's not you who is useless, but the silly
AMPAS homepage!  I got the Oscar details off of America Online, but
not out of the Academy's own www homepage.  The homepage *does*, however,
have a 78 page listing of all the films that were considered, with 
cast/tech lists.

Chris

    <-----  whew!  I spent the better part of the morning nursing my ego
    over that one.
    
    P.S.  Why does anyone think that Dunst deserves an Oscar?  She
    delivered a mediocre performance in a less then mediocre film.
    
    MJ

    I didn't see IwaV, but she did a great job in Little Women.

    No complaints about her job in Little Women, but I didn't think it was
    an Oscar role or an Oscar performance.  I agree with the nomination for
    Winona Ryder but I would have liked to see a nomination for Claire
    Daines (sp) as well.
    
    Leslie

    
    I agree; both were good. But Dunsts' performance in 'Vampire"
    was real good, playing opposite of them two....
    
    
    
    
    
    that's all for now.......
    

    "Vampire" passed over both for Makeup and Costumes!
    
    What a drag! (No, wait, that was "Priscilla"... :-)

    Complaints of a Dutiful Daughter, produced by Deborah Hoffman, was
    nominated for a best documentary oscar.  Deborah Hoffman is the head of
    the documentary committee that chooses pictures for nomination.  She
    took a year's leave of absence to make this film.
    
    No wonder "Hoop Dreams" got snubbed!!!
    
    NAZZ

    Siskel & Ebert had a tirade about it on this week's show.

Don't know about "Hoop Dreams" 'cause I didn't see it.  But
Jennifer Jason Leigh's performance in "Mrs. Parker" was groundbreaking,
and "Interview" has many exceptional qualities.  So the Academy disagrees?
I'm with them on "Quiz Show".  It's a great film.  And I need to
be reminded to see "Gump".

Brian  (Who never watches the Awards, but reads about it the next day)

    I would have bet that Ralph Fiennes would get an nomination for
    "Quiz Show".
    It was a great performance.
    
    A.

    
    It's getting closer to the big night.
    any predictions out there?
    
    talk amongst yourselfs...
    

    Have I made a mistake?  I thought the Academy Awards aired on
    Wednesday,  March 22/95.
    
    PChaplinsky

For those who are WWW capable, take your shot at
the contest being run on the AMPAS home page (see
earlier note for the URL).  Win 365 days of video
rentals (wahoo :o)!!!)

dcl

    Am I the first ? Oh well, here goes....
    
    These are where I would like the awards to go, the Academy can give
    them to who they like .....
    
    Supporting Actress:Uma Thurman (Pulp)
    Supporting Actor:Paul Scofield (Quiz)
    Original Screenplay:Quentin Tarantino
    Adapted Screenplay:Darabont (Shawshank Redemption)
    Sound effects:Forrest Gump
    Costume design:Ed Wood
    Art Direction:Interview with the Vampire
    Cinematography:Shawshank Redemption
    Short Animated:The Big Story
    Best Score:Newman (Shawshank Redemption)
    Orinial Song:Circle Of Life,The Lion King (Elton John)
    Sound:Shawshank Redemption
    Editing:Forrest Gump
    Best Actor:Morgan Freeman
    Best Actress:Jodie Foster
    Best Director:Quentin Tarantino
    Best Picture:Pulp Fiction Or Shawshank Redemtion (I can't decide !)
    
    Probably the worst predictions in the world !
    Vince...

Here's my predictions who will win what. NOT TO BE CONFUSED with any "personal"
preferences, not listed here, with the notable exception of Uma Thurman.  ;-)

Best picture . . . . . . . . . . FORREST GUMP
Best director  . . . . . . . . . Robert Zemeckis for FORREST GUMP
Best actor . . . . . . . . . . . Tom Hanks for FORREST GUMP
Best actress . . . . . . . . . . Susan Sarandon for THE CLIENT
Best supporting actor  . . . . . Gary Sinise for FORREST GUMP
Best supporting actress  . . . . Uma Thurman for PULP FICTION
Best original screenplay . . . . Piesiewicz/Kieslowski for RED
Best adapted screenplay  . . . . Eric Roth for FORREST GUMP
Best foreign-language film . . . EAT DRINK MAN WOMAN (Taiwan)
Best original score  . . . . . . Hans Zimmer for THE LION KING
Best original song . . . . . . . "Circle of Life" Elton John / Tim Rice 
Best film editing  . . . . . . . John Wright for SPEED
Best art/set decoration  . . . . FORREST GUMP
Best cinematography  . . . . . . Don Burgess for FORREST GUMP
Best costume design  . . . . . . April Ferry for MAVERICK
Best makeup  . . . . . . . . . . Many artists for FORREST GUMP
Best sound . . . . . . . . . . . CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
Best sound effects editing . . . SPEED

    
    WHO  I want to win:
    < Pulp fiction Picture
    < John Travollta-actor
    < Jessica Lange-actress
    < Martin Landau- supp.
    < Jennifer Tilly supp.
    < toss-up Q. Tarrentino/ R. Zameckis Dir.
    < Costume  Priscilla
    < Song  Elton John
    < the rest who cares, no I do, but just don't feel like listing them
      now. see ya Monday night.......and the winner is.........
    
    
    BR.

BEST PICTURE			Forrest Gump
BEST DIRECTOR			Robert Zemeckis FORREST GUMP
BEST ACTOR			Tom Hanks for FORREST GUMP
BEST ACTRESS			Jessica Lange for BLUE SKY
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR		Martin Landau for ED WOOD
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS		Dianne Wiest for BULLETS OVER BROADWAY
BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY	Quentin Tarantino & Roger Avary for PULP FICTION
BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY 	Eric Roth for FORREST GUMP
BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM	BURNT BY THE SUN (Russia)
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE		Hans Zimmer for THE LION KING
BEST FILM EDITING		Arthur Schmidt for FORREST GUMP

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
    CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE TONIGHT from THE LION KING, by Elton John (Music) and
	Tim Rice (Lyrics)

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
    Lizzy Gardiner and Tim Chappel for THE ADVENTURES OF PRISCILLA,
	QUEEN OF THE DESERT

BEST LIVE-ACTION SHORT FILM (a tie)
    FRANZ KAFKA'S IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE, Conundrum Films Production, Peter
	Capaldi and Ruth Kenley-Letts, producers
    TREVOR, A Rajski/Stone Production, Peggy Rajski and Randy Stone, producers

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
    Ken Ralston, George Murphy, Stephen Rosenbaum and Allen Hall for
	FORREST GUMP

    But then,how often do the OSCARS pick the best film!
    

    
    hey, I was close with my pick.
    not bad.
    
    
    

    I found the show itself to be entertaining and well-done, which is 
    IMHO pretty rare for the Oscars. The Raul Julia scenes were touching.
    
    O'course, the pleas for continued NEA funding detracted from the show,
    but at least Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon refrained from preaching.
    (Letterman: "Here are Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon, and I'll bet
     they're pissed about SOMETHING". Robbins: "That's right, Dave. Susan?"
     Sarandon: "The nominees for ...")
    
      John

    I found the show really draggy and boring.  I'm not a David Letterman
    fan, but I don't think he did anything that either added or took away
    from the show.
    
    I miss the old days of the Academy Awards with the big stars and the
    fancy clothes.  Now it just seems ho-hum.
    
    Best part of the evening...the dress of designer who won for Pricilla
    -- I wonder where she got all those American Express Cards?
    
    ****andrea****

    
    I was watching Entertainment Tonight last night and they did a bit on
    this lady and her "dress". She called up American Express and asked
    them for all the cards. They thought what a great promotion for them
    so said sure. All the cards have her name on them, but they are all
    inactive. In all I think there were 264 cards used to make the dress.
    
    I also had to laugh at your comment about the "big stars and the fancy
    clothes" cause they (ET) also did a bit on how the clothing/dresses
    were getting back to the classic big movie star look and not all the
    weird things worn in past years. 
    
    Patty

    
    Gives new meaning to "Don't leave home without it".
    

    
    	Holly Hunter was supposed to be wearing something "radical".
    
    	Was she?
    

    The American Express dress was the highlight of the evening. 
    Unfortunately, Dave simply wasn't that funny.  His Top Ten list
    wasn't that great, the taxicab thing was stupid, and please, no more
    Oprah-Uma stuff!
    
    NAZZ

    It was a mediocre show. I thought Letterman did fine, although I think
    a cozier audience familiar with that which is Letterman works better
    for him.  It was as if they hired a comedian to hold a funeral mass --
    kind of a match made in hell unless those attending know what's going
    on.
    
    The thing with "Wanna buy a monkey?" was the funniest thing I've seen
    on the Oscars ever.  I have no idea why.  The so-called tribute to
    comedy was so skimmed over I don't know why they bothered.
    
    Acceptance speech tolerance seemed to be up, although Martin Landeau
    made the fatal mistake of pausing too long, thus prompting the
    orchestra to come up and cut him off.  Even though what they have to
    say is often not a thrill, I really do think the producers should just
    let people thank whomever they want to.  I know if I win some great
    award, I'd like my two minutes in the sun to thank say whatever. It's
    not like one wins all the time (unless, of course, you're Tom Hanks. :)
    
    Basically, the awarding was predictable, with a couple minor
    exceptions.  I really would have liked to see Morgan Freeman take Best
    Actor (although, at least, Hanks's work was well done enough that it
    doesn't grate me that much that he got it--as opposed to his award for
    Philadelphia).  I saw all five Best Picture nominees this year (a first
    for me) and although Forrest Gump was a very good and charming movie
    (better than "Four Weddings..." which really shouldn't have been up
    there, but what the hell...), it was not a better movie than "Quiz
    Show" and especially "The Shawshank Redemption".  The audience seemed
    to favor "Pulp Fiction" and "...Redemption" by their applause -- too
    bad whoever votes for this stuff didn't feel the same way.  
    
    Oh well.  
    
    My two cents,
    
    
    kim

> .... I really do think the producers should just
> let people thank whomever they want to.  I know if I win some great
> award, I'd like my two minutes in the sun to thank say whatever.

	No thank you.  The show's long enough as it is (and it was
	nice that this they only went 1 minute over) at 3.5 hours!
	Allowing 2 minute speaches could add an hour to the whole show ....

RE    <<< Note 47.202 by BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Trouble with a capital 'T'" >>>

>    	Holly Hunter was supposed to be wearing something "radical".
>    
>    	Was she?
    
  Not particularly.

  George

I thought the show dragged more than it has in recent years.  David Letterman 
had a few funny sequences, but I found his comments (plural) about Janet Reno's 
unsexiness totally classless, as well as his one-liner introducing Arnold 
Schwarzeneggar as someone allowed to sleep in Ted Kennedy's (his wife's uncle) 
guest bed.  Whatever one's political persuasion, remarks like this are 
revolting.

If he isn't invited back next year, it's no great loss.  There's just GOT to be 
someone out there who can fill Billy Crystal's shoes!

    But the "Eat, Drink, Man, Woman" joke was good.

    
    	Yeah, the "Eat, Drink, Man, Woman" joke got me to laugh too.
    
    	The show was pretty lame I thought. I was annoyed "Gump" did so
    	well, but I knew I would be before the show even began. "Four
    	Weddings" wasn't the best film ever but at least it beats the
    	celebration of a dim wit guy named Gump (I walked out). I was 
    	also upset that "Red" didn't even win the few categories it was
    	up for. I think even Gump won over it once too (teeth gnawing).
    
    	I like Dave but he *looked* like he was out of his element that
    	night, I can't believe the seven writers he had came up with such 
	dreadful stuff. Dave was funnier in the week leading up to the show
    	than he was in the show itself.
    
	At least I _fully_ applauded both choices for "Best Supporting"
    	roles...  but Gump and "Blue Sky" for Best roles, no way! 
    
    	-Erik

    
    Hey, Jessica Lange is a good actress, she deserved that oscar!
    she look fabulous too.
    Gump, I agree on that one. Travolta shoulda' won. we wuz robbed!
    
    

    I would have like to have seen Gary Sinise take the Oscar for best 
    supporting actor.  If you want to see great acting and a great
    movie, rent the remake of "Of Mice and Men".  Not only Gary, but 
    John Malkavich (sp?) were absolutely incredible.
    
    My 2 cents, but worth a million!
    
    Pam

First, I have to agree with .204: much of Letterman didn't work, but the
"monkey" bit was hilarious.  Amazingly, it was directed by the same guy that
directed Cabin Boy itself (if the Oscar end credits are to be believed).

Now that I've finally seen all the major nominees, I agree that Lange deserved
her Oscar, though I think you could make a good case for Miranda Richardson too.
The only other major complaint I have is with choosing Zemeckis; it's not clear
to me how much of Gump's success is attributable to him, and how much directly
to Hanks.  (That's not to say I *agree* with the other picks, but I don't see
any real travesties.)  I still think it would have been nice if Hoop Dreams won
its Film Editing prize (before anyone asks: the very first Film Editing award
went to what I think was a documentary -- Eskimo, 1934; the only other 
documentary nominated was Woodstock, 1970, unless I've overlooked one).

    
    Ok here it comes this time of the year to think and predict the
    OSCAR nominations for 1995- the Golden Globes are usually a
    good hint of what we can expect.
    anyone have their favorites yet? I will soon.
    
    
    
    
    Bob

    A few more hours until they release the names for 1995!
    
    yahoooo!

    Best film nominees:  Apollo 13, Babe, Braveheart, The Postman, Sense
    and Sensibility.
    
    Best actor nominees:  Nicolas Cage, Sean Penn, Anthony Hopkins, some
    guy who died right after The Postman was made, someone else
    
    Best actress nominees:  Susan Sarandon, Elisabeth Shue, Sharon Stone,
    Meryl Streep, Emma Thompson (not Nicole Kidman, surprisingly) 
    
    Braveheat had 10 nominations, Apollo 13 had 9.
    
    NAZZ

>    Best actor nominees:  Nicolas Cage, Sean Penn, Anthony Hopkins, some
>    guy who died right after The Postman was made, someone else

    Dreyfus(s), I believe.

Best Picture of the Year 

   APOLLO 13 (Universal)
    An Imagine Entertainment and Universal Pictures Production
    Brian Grazer, Producer
   BABE (Universal)
    A Kennedy Miller Pictures Production
    George Miller, Doug Mitchell and Bill Miller, Producers
   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    An Icon Productions/Ladd Company Production
    Mel Gibson, Alan Ladd, Jr. and Bruce Davey, Producers
   THE POSTMAN (IL POSTINO) (Miramax)
    A C. G. Group Tiger - Pentafilm/Esterno Mediterraneo/Blue Dahlia 
     Production
    Mario and Vittorio Cecchi Gori and Gaetano Daniele, Producers
   SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (Columbia) 
    A Mirage Production
    Lindsay Doran, Producer


Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role 

   Nicolas Cage in LEAVING LAS VEGAS (MGM/UA)
   Richard Dreyfuss in MR. HOLLAND'S OPUS (Buena Vista)
   Anthony Hopkins in NIXON (Buena Vista)
   Sean Penn in DEAD MAN WALKING (Gramercy)
   Massimo Troisi in THE POSTMAN (IL POSTINO) (Miramax)

Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role 

   Susan Sarandon in DEAD MAN WALKING (Gramercy)
   Elisabeth Shue in LEAVING LAS VEGAS (MGM/UA)
   Sharon Stone in CASINO (Universal)
   Meryl Streep in THE BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY (Warner Bros.)
   Emma Thompson in SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (Columbia)

Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role 

   James Cromwell in BABE (Universal)
   Ed Harris in APOLLO 13 (Universal)
   Brad Pitt in 12 MONKEYS (Universal)
   Tim Roth in ROB ROY (MGM/UA)
   Kevin Spacey in THE USUAL SUSPECTS (Gramercy)

Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role 

   Joan Allen in NIXON (Buena Vista)
   Kathleen Quinlan in APOLLO 13 (Universal)
   Mira Sorvino in MIGHTY APHRODITE (Miramax)
   Mare Winningham in GEORGIA (Miramax)
   Kate Winslet in SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (Columbia)

Achievement in Directing 

   BABE (Universal)
    Chris Noonan
   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    Mel Gibson
   DEAD MAN WALKING (Gramercy)
    Tim Robbins
   LEAVING LAS VEGAS (MGM/UA)
    Mike Figgis
   THE POSTMAN (IL POSTINO) (Miramax)
    Michael Radford

Achievement in Writing (Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen) 

   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    Written by Randall Wallace
   MIGHTY APHRODITE (Miramax)
    Written by Woody Allen
   NIXON (Buena Vista)
    Written by Stephen J. Rivele, Christopher Wilkinson & Oliver Stone
   TOY STORY (Buena Vista)
    Screenplay by Joss Whedon, Andrew Stanton, Joel Cohen and Alec Sokolow;
    Story by John Lasseter, Peter Docter, Andrew Stanton, Joe Ranft
   THE USUAL SUSPECTS (Gramercy)
    Written by Christopher McQuarrie

Achievement in Writing (Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or
Published) 

   APOLLO 13 (Universal)
    Screenplay by William Broyles, Jr. & Al Reinert
   BABE (Universal)
    Screenplay by George Miller & Chris Noonan
   LEAVING LAS VEGAS (MGM/UA)
    Screenplay by Mike Figgis
   THE POSTMAN (IL POSTINO) (Miramax)
    Screenplay by Anna Pavignano, Michael Radford, Furio Scarpelli, Giacomo
     Scarpelli, Massimo Troisi
   SENSE AND SENSIBILITY(Columbia)
    Columbia:Screenplay by Emma Thompson

Achievement in Art Direction 

   APOLLO 13 (Universal)
    Art Direction: Michael Corenblith; Set Decoration: Merideth Boswell
   BABE (Universal)
    Art Direction: Roger Ford; Set Decoration: Kerrie Brown
   A LITTLE PRINCESS (Warner Bros.)
    Art Direction: Bo Welch; Set Decoration: Cheryl Carasik
   RESTORATION (Miramax)
    Art Direction: Eugenio Zanetti
   RICHARD III (MGM/UA)
    Art Direction: Tony Burrough

Achievement in Cinematography 

   BATMAN FOREVER (Warner Bros.)
    Stephen Goldblatt
   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    John Toll
   A LITTLE PRINCESS (Warner Bros.)
    Emmanuel Lubezki
   SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (Columbia)
    Michael Coulter
   SHANGHAI TRIAD (Sony Pictures Classics)
    Lu Yue

Achievement in Costume Design 

   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    Charles Knode
   RESTORATION (Miramax)
    James Acheson
   RICHARD III (MGM/UA)
    Shuna Harwood
   SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (Columbia)
    Jenny Beavan and John Bright
   12 MONKEYS (Universal)
    Julie Weiss

Best Documentary (Feature) 

   ANNE FRANK REMEMBERED A Jon Blair Film Company Limited Production
    Jon Blair, Producer
   THE BATTLE OVER CITIZEN KANE A Lennon Documentary Group
    Production for The American Experience
    Thomas Lennon and Michael Epstein, Producers
   FIDDLEFEST - Roberta Guaspari-Tzavara and Her East Harlem
    Violin Program A Four Oaks Foundation Production
    Allan Miller and Walter Scheuer, Producers
   HANK AARON: CHASING THE DREAM A TBS Production
    Mike Tollin, Producer
   TROUBLESOME CREEK: A MIDWESTERN A West City Films, Inc. Production
    Jeanne Jordan and Steven Ascher, Producers

Best Documentary (Short Subject) 

   JIM DINE: A SELF-PORTRAIT ON THE WALLS An Outside in July,
    Inc. Production
    Nancy Dine and Richard Stilwell, Producers
   THE LIVING SEA A MacGillivray Freeman Films Production
    Greg MacGillivray and Alec Lorimore, Producers
   NEVER GIVE UP: The 20th Century Odyssey of Herbert Zipper An
    American Film Foundation Production
    Terry Sanders and Freida Lee Mock, Producers
   ONE SURVIVOR REMEMBERS A Home Box Office and The United
    States Holocaust Memorial Museum Production
    Kary Antholis, Producer
   THE SHADOW OF HATE A Guggenheim Productions, Inc. Production for
    the Southern Poverty Law Center
    Charles Guggenheim, Producer

Achievement in Film Editing 

   APOLLO 13 (Universal)
    Mike Hill and Dan Hanley
   BABE (Universal)
    Marcus D'Arcy
   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    Steven Rosenblum
   CRIMSON TIDE (Buena Vista)
    Chris Lebenson 
   SEVEN (New Line)
    William Hoy

Best Foreign Language Film of the Year 

   ALL THINGS FAIR (Sweden)
    A Per Holst Film Production
   ANTONIA'S LINE (The Netherlands)
    A Bergen Theatre-Film-Television Production
   DUST OF LIFE (Algeria)
    A 3B Production
   O QUATRILHO (Brazil)
    A Producoes Cinematograficas L.C. Barreto Ltda./Filmes do Equador Ltda.
    Production
   THE STAR MAKER (Italy)
    A C. G. Group Tiger Cinematografica Production

Achievement in Makeup 

   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    Peter Frampton, Paul Pattison and Lois Burwell
   MY FAMILY, MI FAMILIA (New Line)
    Ken Diaz and Mark Sanchez
   ROOMMATES (Buena Vista)
    Greg Cannom, Bob Laden and Colleen Callaghan

Achievement in Music (Original Musical or Comedy Score) 

   THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT (Columbia)
    Marc Shaiman
   POCAHONTAS (Buena Vista)
    Music by Alan Menken,Lyric by Stephen Schwartz,Orchestral Score by Alan
    Menken
   SABRINA (Paramount in association with Constellation Films)
    John Williams
   TOY STORY (Buena Vista)
    Randy Newman
   UNSTRUNG HEROES (Buena Vista)
    Thomas Newman

Achievement in Music (Original Dramatic Score) 

   APOLLO 13 (Universal)
    James Horner
   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    James Horner
   NIXON (Buena Vista)
    John Williams
   THE POSTMAN (IL POSTINO) (Miramax)
    Luis Bacalov
   SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (Columbia)
    Patrick Doyle

Achievement in Music (Original Song) 

   "Colors of the Wind" from POCAHONTAS (Buena Vista)
    Music by Alan Menken; Lyric by Stephen Schwartz
   "Dead Man Walking" from DEAD MAN WALKING (Gramercy)
    Music and Lyric by Bruce Springsteen
   "Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman" from DON JUAN DeMARCO 
    (New Line)
    Music and Lyric by Michael Kamen, Bryan Adams and Robert John Lange
   "Moonlight" from SABRINA (Paramount in association with Constellation
    Films)
    Music by John Williams; Lyric by Alan and Marilyn Bergman
   "You've Got a Friend" from TOY STORY (Buena Vista)
    Music and Lyric by Randy Newman

Best Short Film (Animated) 

   THE CHICKEN FROM OUTERSPACE A Stretch Films, Inc. Production
    John R. Dilworth
   A CLOSE SHAVE An Aardman Animations Production
    Nick Park
   THE END An Alias/Wavefront Production
    Chris Landreth and Robin Bargar
   GAGARIN A Second Frog Animation Group Production
    Alexij Kharitidi
   RUNAWAY BRAIN A Walt Disney Pictures Production
    Chris Bailey

Short Film (Live Action) 

   BROOMS A Yes/No Production
    Luke Cresswell and Steve McNicholas
   DUKE OF GROOVE A Chanticleer Films Production
    Griffin Dunne and Thom Colwell
   LIEBERMAN IN LOVE A Chanticleer Films Production
    Christine Lahti and Jana Sue Memel
   LITTLE SURPRISES A Chanticleer Films Production
    Jeff Goldblum and Tikki Goldberg
   TUESDAY MORNING RIDE A Chanticleer Films Production
    Dianne Houston and Joy Ryan

Achievement in Sound 

   APOLLO 13 (Universal)
    Rick Dior, Steve Pederson, Scott Millan and David MacMillan
   BATMAN FOREVER (Warner Bros.)
    Donald O. Mitchell, Frank A. Montano, Michael Herbick and Petur Hliddal
   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    Andy Nelson, Scott Millan, Anna Behlmer and Brian Simmons
   CRIMSON TIDE (Buena Vista)
    Kevin O'Connell, Rick Kline, Gregory H. Watkins and William B. Kaplan
   WATERWORLD (Universal)
    Steve Maslow, Gregg Landaker and Keith A. Wester

Achievement in Sound Effects Editing 

   BATMAN FOREVER (Warner Bros.)
    John Leveque and Bruce Stambler
   BRAVEHEART (Paramount)
    Lon Bender and Per Hallberg
   CRIMSON TIDE (Buena Vista)
    George Watters II

Achievement in Visual Effects 

   APOLLO 13 (Universal)
    Robert Legato, Michael Kanfer, Leslie Ekker and Matt Sweeney
   BABE (Universal)
    Scott E. Anderson, Charles Gibson, Neal Scanlan and John Cox

    
    >    Braveheat had 10 nominations, Apollo 13 had 9.
    
    And "Babe" had 7!
    
    

    >>    Braveheat had 10 nominations, Apollo 13 had 9.
    >And "Babe" had 7!

  Babe I can see, but BRAVEHEART??? Everything on the list I can go along with,
  but Braveheart is the one glaring exception.  If Braveheart belongs here then
  surely Waterworld does too - it was a B-grade movie made up of strung-
  together Monday Night Football close-up action-shot shorts, what's it doing
  here? I object.  Someone received a large payoff for this dog...

  "Usual Suspects" may belong here in this year's weak field, but it would
  never have been up for an award in more solid film years.  This was also too
  much of a B-grade movie for me (even more so compared to say 1950's era films
  of the genre which were much better done).

  But otherwise I'm surprisingly happy with the list this year, especially with
  the inclusion of "Il Postino," "Sense and Sensibility," and surprisingly enough
  "Babe."

    my exact thoughts.
    
    Gross neglection:  Leaving Las Vegas  for Film.
    			
    
    
    BR

    
    
    
    I strongly disagree, Braveheart was very well done. It was technically
    as well as logistically difficult to stage and the acting was
    excellent. I can't remember going to a 3 hour movie before and
    having the time pass so quickly.
    
    my two cents
    Chris
    

  "Leaving Las Vegas" is the most overrated film since "Terms of Endearment".
I'm glad it didn't make it. 

  Several critics have complained that Tom Hanks and Nicole Kidman were passed
over. I felt that Hanks was better in Apollo 13 than in either Philadelphia or
Gump because playing a repressed astronaut and getting it right is much more
difficult than the heart on sleeve type characters he played in those other two
films. I've noticed that Hollywood always under rates space movies except for
fx type categories.

  George

    I would have nominated "Toy Story" over "Babe".  "Babe" was cute and
    charming, but I didn't think it was GREAT.   I would have put in "Usual
    Suspects" or "Mr. Holland's Opus" over say, "Apollo 13".  I confess to
    being a "Braveheart" fan so hooray for Mr. Gibson from this camp.
    
    
    kim

    Put me in the "Braveheart" camp as well.  Incredibly well-made,
    visually arresting, epic in scope yet kept the characters real.  No
    sappy Hollywood ending.  Unlike say "Heat", which let you know it was a
    Looooong movie, I never had three hours pass so fast in a theater.
    
    NAZZ

    Re .219
    
    Take note of your personal name. A LOT of people loved "Braveheart" and
    I'm happy to say I'm one of them. It was, with the exception of "Sense
    and Sensibility", the most enjoyable, and definitely the most
    engrossing movie of 1995.
    
    You didn't like it? Well, apparently many more did.
    
    
    Marilyn
     

    
    	I've no problem with that. That was simply my one voice and my one
    	vote. I was simply saying the movie would not have been on my list.
    	I'd object to B-grade Waterworld being on the list as much as
    	B-grade BH/Gibson. But that's just my vote, feel free to voice
    	yours... that's what this conference is all about.
    
    	-Erik
    

    
    	And fwiw, "Gump" wasn't on my list last year either, whereas a lot
    	of people liked that too, along with "Dumber and Dumber", so who
    	knows where the Academy votes will lead each year. I often do not
    	agree with them. But it's just fun making up your own lists ne 
    	c'est pas?

	-Erik

    I was kind of surprised John Travolta & Get Shorty was overlooked.
    
    My favorite film was Sense & Sensibility (seen it twice).  
    I was really dissapointed that Alan Rickman didn't make it
    for Best Supporting Actor - I thought for sure he would be
    nominated.
    
    Feel bad for the actor from El Postino.  Guess he barely made
    through filming and died 12 hours after the shooting of the film
    was finished from heart failure.  He will never realize how 
    much the academy/actors/directors/etc. loved his film.
    
    Mo
    

    
    re .226
    
    
    How can you say Braveheart was a B movie.
    B movie's are low quality , low budget schlock movies
    usually horror and relegated to late night t.v. Some have
    become cult classics like "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes".
    I can't see any relation between a B movie and Braveheart.
    
    Chris
    :)

    I've managed to keep quiet so far but...Braveheart???
    
    What are you lot on?
    
    Braveheart was one of the worst films to have been made last year. I
    know that there is no accounting for taste, but please. I must have
    seen a different film called Braveheart, because the one I saw was
    hackneyed, cliched, overlong, etc. etc. Gibson is no great actor and I
    thought his accent was laughable, nearly as bad as Christopher Lambert
    in Highlander. This hugely expensive film is like a cake with the
    'frosting' and without the cake.
    
    Richard.
    
    PS Babe??? Some one is trying to tell me this was better than
    Heat, Seven, or Shallow grave to name a few.
    
    The Oscars aren't awards for good films, they are just the sound of
    Hollywood slapping it's own back. Il Postino (haven't seen it, so I'm
    not critising it) doesn't that appear somewhat to be the token Foreign
    film. Sense and Sensibility, words fail me. Emma Thompson is no great
    talent, the BBC can knock out this sort of stuff with much of a
    thought, and of better quality.

    A demonstration of the wildly different taste between the UK and
    the US audiences.  Hopefully the BAFTAs will accurately reflect
    the UK tastes and the Oscars will sorta reflect the mainstream
    US'.

    re:  230
    
    I don't think Il Postino is a token foreign film.  If that was
    the case, there would be 1 foreign film every year for best
    picture.  
    
    As for Babe being better that Heat or Seven.  I doubt if the acting
    in Babe (if there was any acting) will ever be anywhere near as
    good as the other two films.  But I personally would rather see
    Babe since it doesn't have any graphic violence.  Hell, I don't
    have to pay $7.00 to see that - I just have to turn on the evening
    news.
    
    As for Sense and Sensibility - so far you are the only person
    I have heard about that hasn't liked it.  Every critic, every
    newspaper, every review has praised it - so I guess you are 
    definitely in the minority - thankfully.
    
    Mo
    

    We are exactly the same.....
    
    There are good and bad coming from both sides of the
    Atlantic.....and no one opinion is "right" or better than
    any other.
    
    Likewise, money and "politics" enter into nominations and
    the subsequent voting/selections on both sides of the Atlantic, 
    too.
    
    Not to be cliched, but money talks and we are all human.
    
    That's why it's a waste of disk space for 100 people to 
    say "I can't believe this or that film didn't make the list 
    & this one did!".    
    

    
    Las Vegas is giving it even odds between:
    Braveheart & Il Postino
    
    for Best Picture.
    
    

Has anyone heard what the likely
favorites are as we near Oscar time.

Entertainment Tonight (that bastion of 
intellectual discourse) only said
what the stars were going to wear.

Wow, I never realized that Mrs. Arnold
Schwarzenegger wore a $1.5 million diamond pendant
last year!

JK

I've seen Babe, Apollo 13, and Sense and Sensibility so far.

Out of that batch I'd have to vote for S&S.

I liked Babe but I didn't find myself as involved
as with S&S.

As for Apollo 13, Tom Hanks doesn't deserve anymore Oscar 
recognition.

JK

RE               <<< Note 47.236 by CADSYS::KELLEY "Elucidator" >>>

>As for Apollo 13, Tom Hanks doesn't deserve anymore Oscar 
>recognition.

  This brings up an interesting point, should the Oscar be given for the best
performance of the year, or should it be a combination of one of the better
performances and someone who hasn't had as much recognition? 

  From what I've seen, the number of Oscars someone has won does figure in but
I feel it should not. If they want to call it the Oscar for best performance by
a male actor then they should give it to who ever did the best performance,
regardless of what he's done or not done in previous years. 

  I felt Hanks performance in Apollo 13 was the best of the 3 (Philli and Gump
being the other 2). Playing an astronaut type character who suppresses his
feelings and moves back and forth under pressure from intense to humorous while
always under control is very difficult for Hollywood type actors. They are much
more accustom to playing the type of character that wears his heart on his
sleeve. 

  Hanks' Jim Lovell was not only one of his best parts, it was one of the best
parts I've seen period. It was a classic. 

  Of course in Hollywood it will also lose points because of the prejudice
against Space movies. There is obviously a large part of the Academy that feels
that any movie that is Space oriented is entertainment and not art. 

  George 

    
    	Well, the "best" performance of the year is the "best" performance
    	of the year regardless of what this person has done in the past.
    
    	I'd hope that the voters don't consider previous roles in their
    	choices.
    

    re .235

>Wow, I never realized that Mrs. Arnold
>Schwarzenegger wore a $1.5 million diamond pendant
>last year!

    Her name is Maria Shriver. She's a successful telejournalist in her own
    right.

    Lisa

    Maria Shriver is also part of the Kennedy clan.

re: 237

So are you saying that Hanks should have
received nomination No. 3 for "Apollo 13"?
And, if so, should he not have been nominated
for "Philadelphia" and "Forrest Gump," or did
you agree with both of those selections?

I agree with your premise about the best performance
being judged year to year without regard to
past performances. ... Maybe you're right about Hanks' performance
in Apollo, but the thought of seeing him clutching the statuette
for the third time turned my stomach. Incidentally,
Siskel gave the nod to "Babe" for Best Picture and Ebert
selected "Apollo 13."

JK

RE               <<< Note 47.241 by CADSYS::KELLEY "Elucidator" >>>

>So are you saying that Hanks should have
>received nomination No. 3 for "Apollo 13"?
>And, if so, should he not have been nominated
>for "Philadelphia" and "Forrest Gump," or did
>you agree with both of those selections?

  Yes, I thought he was great in both of those as well.

  I'm not saying he's my favorite guy to see accept an award, his speeches are
usually somewhat melodramatic, but in my opinion he's given the best
performance for the 3rd time in a row and should get the award for the 3rd time
in a row. 

  If that's what the award is suppose to be.

  George

> If that's what the award is suppose to be.

	Remember that the Oscars are a function of Hollywood politics
	and have nothing to do with what any of us consumers of their
	products think (ie. only past Oscar winners in that catagory
	can vote in that catagory, etc etc).

	For us mortal folks that's why we have the Golden Globes and
	the People's Choice awards (etc etc) .....

>	(ie. only past Oscar winners in that catagory
>	can vote in that catagory, etc etc).

Really? Only WINNERS can vote?
Can only winners belong to the Academy?
I understood that only members of the discipline/craft/guild
could vote for the special awards (technical, actors, etc.),
but that the Academy members at large voted for best picture.
Is this not true?

- tom]

>>	(ie. only past Oscar winners in that catagory
>>	can vote in that catagory, etc etc).
> Really? Only WINNERS can vote?
> Can only winners belong to the Academy?

	Opps, brain fart on my part, I meant to say past "nominies"
	(though it does lead to the question of who voted the
	1st year of the Oscars.... maybe it was a later change as the
	size of Hollywood grew ....)

	My source for this info is watching S&E "memo to the academy"
	shows over the years, and seeing recent 1st time nominies
	on letterman & leno mention that next year they are allowed
	to vote ... (ie. I've never seen the real membership rules/etc
	so take the info for what all free info is worth :-)

    Braveheart?
    Braveheart! No! No! No!
    
    I'll say it again, this is not a good film, it just isn't *that* good,
    what is wrong with the academy, are they mad?
    
    grrrr!
    
    dickie.
    
    PS deserved 3rd oscar for Nick Parks.

    Braveheart??? Its an Ok movie, not bad, but not brilliant...but like
    someone else said, these awards are really about rewarding the best
    film as such...
    
    BTW - The Anne Franks documentary which won an oscar is totally
    excellent, it was on BBC over Xmas, and is worth seeing if you get the
    chance.
    
    Mikef

  It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking the Oscrar's are the "World
Championship of Movies" but that's just not the case. It's an award and like
all awards it's given to whom ever the voters think is worthy of recognition.

  Critics are the ones who most often fall into that trap. Funny, they should
know better. Then again maybe they do. They realize their readers are all
excited/upset about who wins and they fan the flames.

  Show Biz,
  George

    I was pleased to see Sarandon win, & thought she pulled off an
    excellent "acceptance" performance.  Robin Williams's Chuck Jones intro
    was pretty good.  I haven't seen "Braveheart" but probably will, now.
    
    -Stephen

    
    	Yeah, I know, I know...
    
    	But my reaction all morning is still a stunned "Braveheart? Gibson?
    	What the heck were they thinking?" until another voice chimes in
    	"Remember Gump."
    
    	But still, Braveheart? Gibson? Yikes...
    
    	-Erik
    

    
    
    Yup Braveheart and Gibson...and very well deserved!!!
    
    Chris
    :)

   re braveheart

   apparently, it was something of a logistical nightmare to film, 
   what with the huge number of extras, and the most uncooperative
   weather.  quite a beautiful movie, and a job very well done by Mel,
   in my opinion.  not a "brilliant" film, but few are these days.  

    
    	Obviously, not EVERY film can be the next "Brain Donors".
    

    Maybe Braveheart is to us, what Forest Gump was to you.
    
    Kirsty (Scottish)

    
    Forest Gump was a piece of junk to me  :^)
    
    - Sean (American)
    

>    Maybe Braveheart is to us, what Forest Gump was to you.
    
    
    	Indeed! Glad you agree. They were both Hollywood rubbish! :-)
    
    	
    

    
    	But don't mind me, I'm just upset because "Babe" was ROBBED!!
    
    	:-)

> re braveheart
> apparently, it was something of a logistical nightmare to film, 
> what with the huge number of extras, ....

	Do note however that there were *not* as many extras as there
	did appear to be on the screen in that (or those, I haven't
	seen the film) big battle scene.  Most of them were computer
	clones .... (ie. special effects, they digitally multiplied
	the extras, think of it as the shampoo commercial "you tell
	two friends, they tell two friends, and so on and so on ..")

>	Do note however that there were *not* as many extras as there
>	did appear to be on the screen in that (or those, I haven't
>	seen the film) big battle scene.  Most of them were computer

	according to the film showing the making of "braveheart", there
	were about 1600 extras in the battle scenes.  that's a lot.

>> Do note however that there were *not* as many extras as there
>> did appear to be on the screen in that (or those, I haven't
>> seen the film) big battle scene.  Most of them were computer
> according to the film showing the making of "braveheart", there
> were about 1600 extras in the battle scenes.  that's a lot.

	Yes, that's a lot.  However the fact still remains that there
	were *not* as many extras as there appeared to be "on the
	screen" for the reason I mentioned (surely the "making of"
	show mentioned it, or have I been fed bad info?)

    From time to time word surfaces that busy or apathetic Oscar voters
    don't vote, instead they give their ballot to someone else to fill out
    and return. Often, not always, it's a secretary (usually female) who 
    gets to vote. At least that's the way the story goes.
    
    I wonder if this year that didn't happen A LOT.
    
      John

>	Yes, that's a lot.  However the fact still remains that there
>	were *not* as many extras as there appeared to be "on the
>	screen" for the reason I mentioned (surely the "making of"
>	show mentioned it, or have I been fed bad info?)

	i wasn't impressed by how many it looked like on screen - 
	i was impressed by the number of extras he actually had
	to work with.  hence my comment.  i don't remember the
	making of "braveheart" talking about the illusions you're
	referring to, but maybe it did.

    The one thing that bothered me a bit with last night's awards is
    that all the actors moonlighting as directors (Gibson, Lahti)
    screenwriters (Thompson) received gongs.  There was at least one
    other example (or maybe I'm thinking of Tim Robbins and 
    Jeff Goldblum, who were nominated), but I can't think who it was.  
    Surely we won't see a day when one won't be able to get a 
    [insert field here] job unless you've been an actor?  Nah!
    
    That said, I was delighted that Thompson got the award for best
    screenplay adapted from previously produced/published material.
    Didn't see many films this year, so I don't know how she compared
    to the other nominees, but "S&S" was the best thing I saw from '95.
    
    Chris
    
    

    
    	Is Tim Robbins living with Susan Sarandon?
    

    So - besides the quibbles about who should have won.... :^)
    
    what did people think of the show?
    
    IMHO - it was ok. I actually watched the entire thing, even though I
    haven't seen most of the movies. Not sure why I watched it. Only
    catagory I was interested in was Shorts/Animation and Close Shave won.
    After that nothing really mattered but I did watch til the end.
    
    Was there no Special Effects award or was it part of the techno awards
    given at an earlier time?
    
    I liked Whoopi (glad she didn't go through multiple clothes changes
    this time - though ET interviewed her about the necklace - $12mill, on
    loan!). Thought she had some good lines, and some dumb ones, liked her
    intro bit about the ribbons. My guess is some of her lines were ad-lib
    based on her post-saying reactions.
    
    I liked the tribute to Gene Kelly and hurray for Kirk Douglas and Chris
    Reeves. Their spots were very moving.
    
    other thoughts - 
    	- the costume design show with the models was worthless
    	- choreography for most of the nominated songs was way over the top
    	- liked the "STOMP" piece
    	- loved robin williams (I'll always think of elmer fudd now when I
    	  hear Phill gramm, and Foghorn Leghorn for Buchanan...)
    	- when they do the tribute to those who passed away, there's always
    	  one or two that catch me, "he/she died? when?" Did the list
    	  seem shorter this year?
    
    
    now.... back to the did not/did to arguements.....

Re      <<< Note 47.264 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Supra = idiot driver magnet" >>>

>    	Is Tim Robbins living with Susan Sarandon?
    
  They've been an item ever since they did "Bull Durham". For a Hollywood
romance, that's quite some time.

  George

    
    I'm just glad Babe didn't win!  It was cute, but it should not have
    even been nominated for an Oscar.
    
    I also wish that Richard Dryfuss won over Nick Cage.  
    
    But, it's only the Oscars, eve the actors don't seem to take it too
    seriously anymore.
    
    Kirk Douglas = very touching and sad!  How brave of him!

.265>    Was there no Special Effects award or was it part of the techno awards
    >    given at an earlier time?

The Special Effects award was presented sometime after 10:30 pm (Eastern),
which is when I started watching (having been out earlier).  Only two
films were up for it: "Apollo 13" and "Babe".  "Babe" got the Oscar.
(I can't remember who the presenter was.)

- Nina

> The Special Effects award was presented sometime after 10:30 pm (Eastern),
> which is when I started watching (having been out earlier).  Only two
> films were up for it: "Apollo 13" and "Babe".  "Babe" got the Oscar.

	.... and the reason Apollo 13 didn't win was because they did
	such a good job that the voters all mistakenly assumed it was
	"stock & news-reel" footage, when in reality not a single frame
	was such, it was all special effects that created the too perfect
	illusion ....  (IMHO of course :-)

    It might have been that the voters wanted to reward "Babe" somehow,
    although I personally didn't think the talking animals were THAT
    seamless.  I could tell when a puppet pig/dog/etc. was being used.  I
    would have given the award to Apollo 13 for all the trouble of shooting
    weightless scenes in that Vomit Comet. :)
    
    
    
    kim

    
    This is always difficult because some of the movies wind up being
    released in NY & LA the last week of the year to qualify for the
    oscars. Thus, they are in release during the crucial voting period
    and the adage "Out of sight, out of mind" for pictures released early
    in the year is very true. 

    
    
    Hopefully films like "Fargo" and "Flirting with disaster" will be
    remembered come studio campaigning time.

    
    	Evita NOT included in best picture, Madonna NOT included in best
    actress.
    ed

    ...OK, here's the info we ALL have been waiting for:
    
    BEST ACTOR:
    
    Tom Cruise ("Jerry Maguire")
    Ralph Fiennes ("The English Patient")
    Geoffrey Rush ("Shine")
    Woody Harrelson ("People vs Larry Flint")     YESSSSSS!!!!!
    Billy Bob Thorton ("Sling Blade")
    
    BEST ACTRESS:
    
    Brenda Blethyn ("Secrets & Lies")
    Kristin Scott Thomas ("English Patient")
    Emily Watson ("Breaking the Waves")
    Diane Keaton (" Marvin's Room")
    Frances McDormand ("Fargo")
    
    BEST DIRECTOR:
    
    Milos Forman ("People vs Larry Flint")        YESSSSSSS!!!!
    Joel Coen ("Fargo")
    Scott Hicks ("Shine")
    Anthony Minghella ("English Patient")
    Mike Leigh ("Secrets & Lies")
    
    BEST PICTURE:
    
    "The English Patient"
    "Fargo"
    "Jerry Maguire"
    "Secrets & Lies"
    "Shine"
    
    Also of note, "English Patient" got a whopping 12 Oscar nominations...
    
    that's all I have for now....
    
    mac
    Joel

  What sense does it make to not even nominate the Golden Globe's best
actress?

  Plenty of politics going on there. Her performance was one of the best I've
ever seen.

  George

    I heard this morning that the reason she was not selected for
    nomination was because she is not considered an "actor".  The people
    who presented the selection of films/actors are members of an
    actor's association.  This is not a selection made by the public.
    
    PChaplinsky
    

> I heard this morning that the reason she was not selected for
> nomination was because she is not considered an "actor".  The people
> who presented the selection of films/actors are members of an
> actor's association.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	also known as a "union" :-(

	The Oscars have always been political.  Comedies have always
	been snubbed for Best Picture, as well as certain actors
	(Woody Alan for example).

    Or maybe it is because there were more great roles for women this year,
    and so many great performances, that she just didn't get enough votes. 
    I just looked at the list of nominees, and it seems that every one of
    them deserved the nomination.
    
    
    E Grace

>> who presented the selection of films/actors are members of an
>> actor's association.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	also known as a "union" :-(
    
    
    Of which she is a member.
    
    
    E

>> who presented the selection of films/actors are members of an
>> actor's association.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (whose awards we 
are discussing here) is NOT the same as the Screen Actor's Guild (nor 
the other guilds).
The guilds are the Hollywood unions, the Academy is a trade association.
I don't know which one(s) Madonna might belong to.

- tom]

    > Woody Allen, for example.
    
    Who started the snubbing there? Woody Allen has not come to the
    Oscars for many years and does not seem to count their opinions for much.
    His films seem to have been nominated for some awards nonetheless, but
    perhaps less than if the Academy felt that he would value the award.
    
    Does anyone know why Woody shuns the Oscars? Was there an incident
    which triggered this, or has he just never paid much attention to them?
    				Jim
    

    
    
        YOUR DATE HAS GOT TO BE OVER 21.
    
    
      That would leave Soon Lee at home.   :-)
    
    
    Chap

    Some interesting omissions:
    
    Meryl Streep for Marvin's Room, and especially
    Marion Ross for The Evening Star
    
    Who can figure why some people make it and some people not?  It's funny
    how it was Streep who got the Golden Globe nomination, but it was DIANE
    KEATON who got the Oscar nomination for the same film.  And I also
    agree with those who think that Madonna's shutout was a stunner.
    

[from Mercury Mail news service, http://www.merc.com/ ]

11:52 AM ET 02/11/97

Full list of Academy Award nominations


LOS ANGELES (Reuter) - The following is a complete list of the nominations for
the 69th annual Academy Awards announced Tuesday.

Best picture of the year:
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), A Tiger Moth Production
		Saul Zaentz, Producer
	"Fargo" (Gramercy), A Working Title Production, Ethan Coen, Producer.
	"Jerry Maguire" (TriStar), A TriStar Pictures Production
		James L. Brooks, Laurence Mark, Richard Sakai and Cameron
		Crowe, Producers
	"Secrets & Lies" (October Films), A Ciby 2000 and Thin Man
		Films Production, Simon Channing- Williams, Producer
	"Shine" (Fine Line Features), A Momentum Films Production,
		Jane Scott, Producer

Best performance by an actor in a leading role:
	Tom Cruise in "Jerry Maguire" (TriStar)
	Ralph Fiennes in "The English Patient" (Miramax)
	Woody Harrelson in "The People vs. Larry Flynt" (Columbia)
	Geoffrey Rush in "Shine" (Fine Line Features)
	Billy Bob Thornton in "Sling Blade" (Miramax)

Best performance by an actress in a leading role:
	Brenda Blethyn in "Secrets & Lies" (October Films)
	Diane Keaton in "Marvin's Room" (Miramax)
	Frances McDormand in "Fargo" (Gramercy)
	Kristin Scott Thomas in "The English Patient" (Miramax)
	Emily Watson in "Breaking the Waves" (October Films)

Best performance by an actor in a supporting role:
	Cuba Gooding, Jr. in "Jerry Maguire" (TriStar)
	William H. Macy in "Fargo" (Gramercy)
	Armin Mueller-Stahl in "Shine" (Fine Line Features)
	Edward Norton in "Primal Fear" (Paramount in Association with
		Rysher Entertainment)
	James Woods in "Ghosts of Mississippi" (Columbia)

Best performance by an actress in a supporting role:
	Joan Allen in "The Crucible" (20th Century Fox)
	Lauren Bacall in "The Mirror Has Two Faces" (TriStar)
	Juliette Binoche in "The English Patient" (Miramax)
	Barbara Hershey in "The Portrait Of A Lady'' (Gramercy)
	Marianne Jean-Baptiste in "Secrets & Lies" (October Films)

Best achievement in art direction:
	"The Birdcage" (MGM/UA), Art Direction: Bo Welch. Set Decoration:
		Cheryl Carasik
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), Art Direction: Stuart Craig.
		Set Decoration:  Stephenie McMillan
	"Evita" (Buena Vista), Art Direction: Brian Morris. Set Decoration:
		Phillippe Turiure
	"Hamlet" (Columbia), Art Direction: Tim Harvey
	"William Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet",  Art Direction: Catherine
		Martin (20th Century Fox). Set Decoration: Brigitte Broch.

Best achievement in cinematography:
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), John Seale
	"Evita" (Buena Vista), Darius Khondji
	"Fargo" (Gramercy), Roger Deakins
	"Fly Away Home" (Columbia), Caleb Deschanel
	"Michael Collins" (Geffen Pictures through Warner Bros), Chris Menges

Best achievement in costume design:
	"Angels And Insects" (Samuel Goldwyn Company), Paul Brown
	"Emma" (Miramax), Ruth Myers
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), Ann Roth
	"Hamlet" (Columbia), Alex Byrne
	"The Portrait Of A Lady" (Gramercy), Janet Patterson

Best achievement in directing:
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), Anthony Minghella
	"Fargo" (Gramercy), Joel Coen
	"The People vs. Larry Flynt" (Columbia), Milos Forman
	"Secrets & Lies" (October Films), Mike Leigh
	"Shine" (Fine Line Features), Scott Hicks

Best achievement in documentary features:
	"The Line King: The Al Hirschfeld Story", A Times History Production,
		Susan W. Dryfoos
	"Mandela" (Island Pictures), A Clinica Estetico, Ltd, Production,
		Jo Menell and Angus Gibson
	"Suzanne Farrell: Elusive Muse",  A Seahorse Films, Inc. Production,
		Anne Belle and Deborah Dickson
	"Tell The Truth And Run", George Seldes and the American Press,
		A Never Tire Production, Rick Goldsmith
	"When We Were Kings" (Gramercy), A DASFilms Ltd. Production,
		Leon Gast and David Sonenberg

Best achievement in documentary short subjects:
	"Breathing Lessons, The Life And Work Of Mark O'Brien", An Inscrutable
		Films/Pacific News Service Production, Jessica Yu
	"Cosmic Voyage", A Cosmic Voyage Inc. Production, Jeffrey Marvin and
		Bayley Silleck
	"An Essay On Matisse", A Great Projects Film Company Inc. Production,
		Perry Wolff.
	"Special Effects", A NOVA/WGBH Boston Production, Susanne Simpson and
		Ben Burtt
	"The Wild Bunch: An Album In Montage", A Tyrus Entertainment
		Production, Paul Seydor and Nick Redman

Best achievement in film editing:
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), Walter Murch
	"Evita" (Buena Vista), Gerry Hambling
	"Fargo" (Gramercy), Roderick Jaynes
	"Jerry Maguire" (TriStar), Joe Hutshing
	"Shine" (Fine Line Features), Pip Karmel

Best foreign language film of the year:
	"A Chef In Love", An Adam and Eve Production, Georgia
	"Kolya", A Biograf Jan Sverak/Portebello Pictures/Ceska
		Televize/Pandora Cinema Production, Czech Republic
	"The Other Side Of Sunday", an NRK Drama Production, Norway
	"Prisoner Of The Mountains", A Caravan JSC/B.G. Production, Russia
	"Ridicule", An Epithete/Cina Production, France

Best achievement in makeup
	"Ghosts Of Mississippi" (Columbia) Matthew W. Mungle and
		Deborah La Mia Denaver.
	"The Nutty Professor" (Universal) Rick Baker and David
		Leroy Anderson.
	"Star Trek: First Contact" (Paramount) Michael Westmore,
		Scott Wheeler and Jake Garber

Best achievement in music (original musical or comedy score)
	"Emma" (Miramax), Rachel Portman
	"The First Wives Club" (Paramount), Marc Shaiman
	"The Hunchback Of Notre Dame" (Buena Vista), Music by Alan Menken,
		Lyrics by Stephen Schwartz. Orchestral Score by Alan Menken
	"James And The Giant Peach" (Buena Vista), Randy Newman.
	"The Preacher's Wife" (Buena Vista), Hans Zimmer

Best achievement in music (original dramatic score)
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), Gabriel Yared
	"Hamlet" (Columbia), Patrick Doyle
	"Michael Collins" (Geffen Pictures), Elliot Goldenthal through Warner
		Bros.)
	"Shine" (Fine Line Features), David Hirschfelder
	"Sleepers" (Warner Bros.), John Williams

Best achievement in music (original song)
	"Because You Loved Me"  from "Up Close And Personal" (Buena Vista),
		Music and Lyric by Diane Warren
	"For the First Time"  from "One Fine Day" (20th Century Fox), Music
		and Lyric by James Newton Howard, Jud J. Friedman
		and Allan Dennis Rich
	"I Finally Found Someone"  from "The Mirror Has Two Faces" (TriStar),
		Music and Lyric by Barbra Streisand, Marvin Hamlisch,
		Bryan Adams and Robert "Mutt" Lange
	"That Thing You Do!"  from "That Thing You Do!" (20th Century Fox),
		 Music and Lyric by Adam Schlesinger
	"You Must Love Me"  from "Evita" (Buena Vista), Music by Andrew Lloyd
		Webber, Lyric by Tim Rice.

Best achievement in animated short films
	"Canhead" A Timothy Hittle Production, Timothy Hittle and Chris Peterson
	"La Salla" A National Film Board of Canada Production, Richard Condie.
	"Quest" A Thomas Stellmach Animation Production, Tyron and Thomas
		Stellmach.
	"Wat's Pig" An Aardman Animations Limited Production, Peter Lord.

Best achievement in live action short films
	"De Tripas, Corazon" An IMCINE/DPC/Universidad de Guadalajara
		Production. Antonio Urrutia.
	"Dear Diary" A DreamWorks SKG Production, David Frankel and Barry
		Jossen.
	"Ernst & Lyset" An M & M Production, Kim Magnusson and Anders Thomas
		Jensen.
	"Esposados" A Zodiac Films/Juan Carlos Fresnadillo P.C. Production,
		Juan Carlos Fresnadillo
	"Wordless" A Film Trust Italia Production, Bernadette Carranza and
		Antonello De Leo.

Best achievement in sound:
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), Walter Murch, Mark Berger, David
		Parker and Chris Newman
	"Evita" (Buena Vista), Andy Nelson, Anna Behlmer and Ken Weston
	"Independence Day" (20th Century Fox), Chris Carpenter, Bill W. Benton,
		Bob Beemer and Jeff Wexler
	"The Rock" (Buena Vista), Kevin O'Connell, Greg P. Russell and
		Keith A. Wester
	"Twister" (Warner Bros. and Universal), Steve Maslow, Gregg Landaker,
		Kevin O'Connell and Geoffrey Patterson

Best achievement in sound effects editing:
	"Daylight" (Universal), Richard L. Anderson and David A. Whittaker
	"Eraser" (Warner Bros.), Alan Robert Murray and Bub Asman
	"The Ghost And The Darkness" (Paramount), Bruce Stambler

Best achievement in visual effects:
	"Dragonheart" (Universal), Scott Squires, Phil Tippett, James Straus
		and Kit West
	"Independence Day" (20th Century Fox), Volker Engel, Douglas Smith,
		Clay Pinney and Joseph Viskocil
	"Twister" (Warner Bros. and Universal), Stefen Fangmeier, John Frazier,
		Habib Zargarpour and Henry La Bounta

Best screenplay written directly for the screen:
	"Fargo" (Gramercy), Written by Ethan Coen & Joel Coen
	"Jerry Maguire" (TriStar), Written by Cameron Crowe
	"Lone Star" (Sony Pictures Classics), Written by John Sayles
	"Secrets & Lies" (October Films), Written by Mike Leigh
	"Shine" (Fine Line Features), Screenplay by Jan Sardi, Story by Scott
		Hicks

Best screenplay based on material previously produced or published:
	"The Crucible" (20th Century Fox), screenplay by Arthur Miller
	"The English Patient" (Miramax), screenplay by Anthony Minghella
	"Hamlet" (Columbia), adapted for the screen by Kenneth Branagh
	"Sling Blade" (Miramax), written by Billy Bob Thornton
	"Trainspotting" (Miramax), screenplay by John Hodge

	BTW, the Academy now has their own official Web site, which
	includes the list of nominations and other news items and is at:

		http://www.oscar.com/

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (whose awards we 
are discussing here) is NOT the same as the Screen Actor's Guild (nor 
the other guilds).
The guilds are the Hollywood unions, the Academy is a trade association.
I don't know which one(s) Madonna might belong to.
    
    
    True, but all the acting members of the Academy are members of SAG
    and/or AFTRA.
    
    
    E

    Wow, did 'The English Patient' ever clean up at the Oscars last night! 
    Nine awards.  I believe that's the largest number given to one film in
    quite some time.  I remember a bunch of eights -- Amadeus, Schindler's
    List, Forrest Gump -- but I can't recall a nine.  And I thought for
    sure that 'Patient' would win Best Screenplay, which would have brought
    their total up to ten.  But it sure was an impressive night for the
    film.

12:45 AM ET 03/25/97

List of Academy Award winners

LOS ANGELES (Reuter) - The following is a final list of
winners at the 69th annual Academy Awards, announced Monday.

Best picture of the year:
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), A Tiger Moth Production
Saul Zaentz, Producer

Best performance by an actor in a leading role:
Geoffrey Rush in ``Shine'' (Fine Line Features)

Best performance by an actress in a leading role:
Frances McDormand in ``Fargo'' (Gramercy)

Best achievement in directing:
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), Anthony Minghella

Best performance by an actor in a supporting role:
Cuba Gooding Jr in ``Jerry Maguire'' (TriStar)

Best performance by an actress in a supporting role:
Juliette Binoche in ``The English Patient'' (Miramax)

Best achievement in art direction:
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), Art Direction: Stuart
Craig. Set Decoration: Stephenie McMillan

Best achievement in costume design:
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), Ann Roth

Best achievement in sound effects editing:
``The Ghost And The Darkness'' (Paramount), Bruce Stambler

Best achievement in makeup
``The Nutty Professor'' (Universal) Rick Baker and David
Leroy Anderson.

Best achievement in live action short films
``Dear Diary'' A DreamWorks SKG Production, David Frankel
and Barry Jossen.

Best achievement in animated short films
``Quest'' A Thomas Stellmach Animation Production, Tyron
Montgomery and Thomas Stellmach.

Best achievement in documentary short subjects
''Breathing Lessons, The Life And Work Of Mark O'Brien'',
An Inscrutable Films/Pacific News Service Production, Jessica Yu

Best achievement in documentary features:
``When We Were Kings'' (Gramercy), A DASFilms Ltd.
Production, Leon Gast and David Sonenberg

Best achievement in visual effects:
``Independence Day'' (20th Century Fox), Volker Engel,
Douglas Smith, Clay Pinney and Joseph Viskocil

Best achievement in sound:
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), Walter Murch, Mark
Berger, David Parker and Chris Newman

Best achievement in film editing:
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), Walter Murch

Best achievement in music (original musical or comedy score)
``Emma'' (Miramax), Rachel Portman

Best achievement in music (original dramatic score)
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), Gabriel Yared

Best achievement in cinematography:
``The English Patient'' (Miramax), John Seale

Best foreign language film of the year:
``Kolya'', A Biograf Jan Sverak/Portebello Pictures/Ceska
Televize/Pandora Cinema Production, Czech Republic

Best achievement in music (original song)
``You Must Love Me''  from ``Evita'' (Buena Vista), Music by
Andrew Lloyd Webber Lyric by Tim Rice.

Best screenplay based on material previously produced or
published:
``Sling Blade'' (Miramax), written by Billy Bob Thornton

Best screenplay written directly for the screen:
``Fargo'' (Gramercy), Written by Ethan Coen & Joel Coen