Conference bookie::movies

    
    	How about ANY movie with Barbara Streisand(sp?).....I have a hard
    time even leaving the radio on when I hear her.
    
    
    
    Tim

    Sean Penn .....ugh gag me with a spoon
    
    
    Joyce

    re .2, he always looks like he's disgusted.  :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    re .0, I don't understand what the difference is between this topic and
    Topic 113. "Hollywood Vomitorium" because I feel that my answers to
    both would be the same.   :-)
    
    Are these really two separate topics?
    
    Lorna
    

    Well, Sean Young is still my #1 "hate to see" character.  I was
    rewinding a movie a few weeks ago on my VCR and she was on the Whoopi
    Goldberg Show ("right, right!") and I remember thinking that if I
    closed my eyes and just listened, it would be like eavesdropping on two
    hyper-ego "I'm a woman and want to be respected" wannabe's.  Whoopi is
    someone I hate to watch unless she's in a movie.  Her TV show is
    definitely shown at a good time: all insomniacs, check her out and you,
    too, can sleep!
    
    The only movie I ever saw Young in where she actually seemed like an
    actress instead of a stupid talentless bimbo was "The Boost" with James
    Woods, about drug abuse.  Very "feel bad" movie, I agree ... but good
    acting.  This was the movie in which Young, after its completion, went
    totally cuckoo on Woods, sending voodoo dolls to his fiance and giving
    press conferences on how every man she acted with "fell in love with
    her" ... GAG me!  And she's also the one who broke into the set of
    Batman II dressed as Cat Woman after being rejected for the part, and
    just recently crashed a post-Oscars party that she wasn't invited to.
    
    Oh, I could go ON and ON!!! :-)
    
    Leslie

    Sorry; I didn't read Hollywood Vomitorium and didn't realize it was
    about actors/actresses.  Mea culpa.
    
    Leslie

    Bruce Willis is high on my "can't stand" list. I was disgusted with the
    way "Bonfire of the Vanities" was twisted in order to elevate his
    character, a secondary one at best in the book, to the starring role.
    Not sure if we can blame Bruce for that, but I do. Then again, that
    movie was such a travesty after reading the wonderfully witty and
    insightful book, that I came away resenting everyone who had anything
    to do with the movie.

    I don't like to watch Gene Hackman.  I think he is an extremely boring
    and unappealing man.  Dull. Dull.  Dull.
    
    I, also, don't like to watch Sam Neil.  Such a bland person.  
    
    Lorna
    

    Bob Hoskins bores me to tears, too.  So average!!!
    
    Lorna
    

    I've never really cared for Bill Murrey (Ghostbusters, Groundhog Day)
    Phyllis Diller has never been a favorite either.
    
    MBH

    RE: .8  by VAXWRK::STHILAIRE 
    
    >I don't like to watch Gene Hackman.  I think he is an extremely boring
    >and unappealing man.  Dull. Dull.  Dull.
    
    Did you think him dull in "The French Connection" (the 1st, not sequel)
    
    Did you think him boring in "Night Moves"?
    
    OK, he was an unappealing character in "The Conversation", but boring?
    

  "Unforgiven" was another movie where he was hardly boring. And didn't he
play Clide's brother in "Bonnie and Clide"? That was one of the most disturbing
movies I've ever seen (also one of the best). In any case, I've never heard
anyone call that performance boring? Another 1st.

  George

    I haven't seen Unforgiven yet.
    
    I think I fell asleep in The French Connection.  I just can't get
    interested in that type of thing.  Sorry.
    
    I liked Bonnie and Clyde, but didn't remember that Gene Hackman was
    even in it.  But, who would notice Gene Hackman, with Warren Beatty
    around, anyway?
    
    Sorry.  The guy just doesn't spell excitement for me.  I'm sure that if
    he knew, he'd still manage to forge ahead with his life, though.  (pick
    up the shattered pieces and move on....)   :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    How about Jeff Goldbloom. I think he is totally humorless and his face
    totally expressionless. Just don't like the movies he plays in. Just a
    bad actor.
    
    DP

    RE: .15  by 51219::PIJPSTRA_D 
    
    >How about Jeff Goldbloom. I think he is totally humorless and his face
    >totally expressionless. Just don't like the movies he plays in. Just a
    >bad actor.
    
    I liked him in "Between the Lines", the Joan Micklin Silver film about
    an alternative newspaper in Boston.
    

Which was a very, very funny film.  Although a lot
of the funniest jokes required that you be interested
in the London theatre scene (e.g.  the audition for
the "new Berkhoff production"), most were obvious.  And
Goldblum carried it off very well.

    Was "The Tall Guy" that movie in which he was a partner of Rowan
    Atkinson, doing a theatre act? Atkinson has done some great television
    series/shows : Blackadder, Mr. Bean.
    
    DP.

    
    	Rowan Atkinson [IE, "Mr. Bean"] ROOLZ!!
    
    	One of the funniest comedians around, IMO ... and he doesn't
    	even talk!!
    
    							GTI

    I like Jeff Goldblum.  He's cute & funny.
    
    Lorna
    

    Almost three years later...
    
    	Jean-Claude Van Damme - crappy, crappy acting!  He's only got
    two watchable flicks, Bloodsport & Future Cop (IMO)
    
    	Emma Thompson - Great actor - can't stand to listen to or look at!
    
    	Steven Segal - Getting mighty sick of his "I am God" attitude!
    
    	Madonna - She should stick to what she's good at...boinking!
    
    	Rosanne Barr/Arnold - If anyone even considers her an actress?
    
    That's all I can think of for now!
    

    re. -1
    
    >  Steven Segal - Getting mighty sick of his "I am God" attitude!
    
    "Hey, Im just a cook. A lowly, lowly cook."
    
    

    re: .21
    
    Yep, those are some actors & actresses that I hate to watch too!
    Can't speak about Emma Thompson though, as I don't know who she is.
    
    >Rosanne Barr/Arnold - If anyone even considers her an actress?
    
    Madonna as well!  She's even less of an "actress" than Rosanne Barr!
    
    I have to add a couple more though that bug me...
    
    Wesley Snipes    (you couldn't pay me to watch a movie with him in it)
    Sandra Bernhard  (I guess she's not really considered an actress, but...)
    That guy with the
     red hair from Thirtysomething... (He just bugs me, I don't know why)
    
    And last but not least, Tia Carrere (sp?).   Every time I see her in
    a movie, I get the impression that she got the part through "inside
    connections".  I don't see any talent in her whatsoever.
    I'm not saying that the above mentioned people don't have talent,
    they're just hard for me to watch in a movie.
    
    This is all IMHO of course.  
    
    Ken
    
    

    RE: .23 Ken
    
    	Sandra Bernhard - Annoying as ol'hell and it looks like some one
    smashed her right in the face with a shovel!
    
    Emma Thompson - played in some of the folowing, Junior (with Arnie)
    Sense & Sensibility etc...
    
    I'm sure Slab will get a hold of this and update ya on all the flicks
    she's been in!
    
    [^8=

    
    	If you saw "Dead Again", Emma co-starred with then-husband
    	Kenneth Branagh [not sure if they're still married].
    
    	And Tia Carrere is a pleasure to watch.  Can't say that I
    	like her acting ability, since I spend most of her screen
    	time drooling.  8^)
    

                               Emma Thompson


The IMDb has filmographies for Emma Thompson in the following categories:
     Actress Writer

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Actress filmography

       1. Well of Loneliness, The (1996)
       2. Carrington (1995) .... Dora Carrington
       3. Sense and Sensibility (1995) (AAN) (GGN) .... Elinor Dashwood
       4. Blue Boy, The (1994) (TV) .... Marie
       5. Junior (1994) (C:GGN) .... Dr. Diana Reddin
       6. My Father the Hero (1994) .... Isabelle (uncredited)
          ... aka Daddy Cool (1994)
       7. In the Name of the Father (1993) (S:AAN) (S:GGN) .... Gareth
          Peirce
       8. Much Ado About Nothing (1993) .... Beatrice
       9. Remains of the Day, The (1993) (AAN) (GGN) .... Miss Kenton
      10. Howards End (1992) (AA) (GG) .... Margaret Schlegel
      11. Peter's Friends (1992) .... Maggie
      12. Dead Again (1991) .... Margaret Strauss
      13. Impromptu (1991) .... Duchess D'Antan

      14. Henry V (1989) .... Katherine
      15. Look Back in Anger (1989) (TV) .... Alison Porter
      16. Tall Guy, The (1989) .... Kate Lemmon
      17. "Thompson" (1988)TV Series (host) .... Herself
      18. Winslow Boy, The (1988) (TV) .... Catherine
      19. "Fortunes of War" (1987)TV Series .... Harriet Pringle

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Writer filmography

       1. Sense and Sensibility (1995) (GG) (SAM:AA)

    
    
    One of the ones I can't stand watching is Mickey Rourke.  He just BUGS
    me!
    
    Another vote for Sandra Bernhardt - Yuck!
    
    And even though I don't mind him on a whole, I find myself gringing off
    and on whenever I see Keanu Reeves try and act serious.  He just can't
    get that Valley talk out of him!
    
    

    If at all possible, I will avoid any movie that Gene Hackman has a
    large role in - course, since he makes about 30 movies a year, this can
    get difficult!

    
    	How can you not like Gene?  I think he's great.
    

I will avoid any movie with any of the following people in it:

1) Marlon Brando: I hated every scene he was in in the Godfather movies,
   and I liked all the rest of the scenes.  I deliberately walked in late
   to Superman just to avoid the entire Krypton sequence with him in it.
   I walked out of Apocalypse Now when they got to the base camp.  I find
   Brando to be the worst "Look at me, the great actor, bringing brilliance
   to this lowly part, which of course I will win an Academy Award for, even
   though the part itself would be nothing without my talent" in the book.

2) Jack Nicholson: Barely edged out by Brando for the worst person with the
   attitude stated above.  I think the best line to describe Nicholson was
   given by Cher's character in The Witches of Eastwick (paraphrased from
   memory, but I believe I have the gist of it) "How can anyone find you
   attractive?  You are a short, fat, repulsive pathetic little man".  But
   aside from that he can't act, either.  All of the characters that he
   plays are insane losers: Witches of Eastwick, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's
   Nest, The Shining, Batman, and A Few Good Men (I mean, what insane lunatic
   tells a panel of superior military officers, all of whom have security
   clearances higher than his, all of whom have been in the military longer
   than he has, all of whom are literally holding his career in their hands,
   "You can't handle the truth".  Only Nicholson could be that stupidly
   arrogant).  Makes you wonder (well, it doesn't make *me* wonder) whether
   Nicholson is acting when he plays these unbelievable idiots.

3) Roseanne Arnold: She is not in competition with Brando and Nicholson for
   that award, she just can't act, and her choice of characters stinks.

IMHO, of course...

-- Ken Moreau

    
    
    Gene Hackman is excellent! Very powerful actor!
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    re Marlon Brando
    
    How can you specifically set out to miss the beginning of an excellent
    movie? Like or dislike, the character and scenes set the pace for the 
    movie!! Same goes for walking out on the ending!!!
    
    Chris_confused
    :)

    
    I'm a comming for you, Little Bill!
    
    

    Malon Brando and Jack Nickolson are bad actors?????
    I just don't get it.....

    I can't stand to watch Humprey Bogart that doesn't mean to say that I
    think he is a bad actor though.  I haven't watched him long enough a
    assess his acting ability. His voice gets on my nerves. I would rather
    switch off the TV than listen to that. 

RE: .32
    
>    How can you specifically set out to miss the beginning of an excellent
>    movie? Like or dislike, the character and scenes set the pace for the 
>    movie!! 

In the case of Superman, that was really three totally different movies.
The Krypton sequence (which in the previews had sets and costumes which were
cliches in 1950), the Smallville sequence (which as peaceful and lovely),
and the Metropolis sequence (the bulk of the movie), were three totally
unique and separate sequences that had nothing to do with each other.  No
common actors, no common sets, no common story lines, and no either forward
or backward references from one sequence to the other (maybe with the minor
exception of Superman's frustration at Lois dying flashing back to his
frustration at his father dying).

So I would disagree that "the character and scenes set the pace".  In many
movies what you say is true, but not (IMHO) for Superman I.


RE: .34 (How can you say Brando and Nicholson are bad actors)

Well, because I have never seen them act.  I have seen them portray
themselves, and I have seen them chew the scenery so blatantly that I was
slapped with the fact that I was watching a movie (as opposed to losing 
myself in a storyline and being involved with characters who are being
well-played by good actors), but I have never seen them bring a character
to life or to get me involved with a character, and I have *never* seen
them where they value the character they are playing more than their own
bloated egos and salaries.

I find it amusing that many people who fawn over Brando and Nicholson
also ridicule John Wayne and Clint Eastwood for not being actors, and
always playing themselves.  Well, at least Wayne and Eastwood are honest
with themselves about their own level of ability, and go out of their
way to pick projects that they can succeed at.  To me, Wayne and Eastwood
are at least as good actors as Brando and Nicholson (that is, they are not
capable of acting in any capacity), except they don't have the delusion 
that they are **GREAT ARTISTS**.

As always, IMHO and YMMV.  This is all a matter of taste anyway.

-- Ken Moreau

    
    I've never really been a big Brando fan but that's really because I
    know of no actor that really stands out from a crowd.  They all seem
    the same to me.  I will admit that Nicholson gets on my nerves a bit
    but that's because he always seems to use the same facial expression
    (the sort that say "look at me, aren't I a naughty boy?") and plays the
    same sort of parts.
    
    I agree that walking out of "Apocalypse now" was a bad move, because in
    this instance the end was quite important to the plot.  
    
    
    I.

    
>           1. Well of Loneliness, The (1996)
>           2. Carrington (1995) .... Dora Carrington
>           3. Sense and Sensibility (1995) (AAN) (GGN) .... Elinor Dashwood
>           4. Blue Boy, The (1994) (TV) .... Marie
>           5. Junior (1994) (C:GGN) .... Dr. Diana Reddin
>           6. My Father the Hero (1994) .... Isabelle (uncredited)
>              ... aka Daddy Cool (1994)
>           7. In the Name of the Father (1993) (S:AAN) (S:GGN) .... Gareth
>              Peirce
    
    I haven't seen any of those except Junior.  And I can't remember
    her character in it anyway.  Is she young?  Her movie career only goes
    back to 1993.
    
    Ken
    
    

    > And even though I don't mind him on a whole, I find myself gringing off
    > and on whenever I see Keanu Reeves try and act serious.  He just can't
    >    get that Valley talk out of him!
    
    Yeah, that's how I felt when I saw Speed.  I didn't think he played the
    cop part nearly as well as he played his parts in the "Bill & Ted"
    series.  I just couldn't take him seriously.  
    
    It's like when you see Leslie Neilsen in a serious part.  You keep
    expecting him to pull one of his little antics all the time!
    
    Ken
    
    

    
    	I believe Emma was more involved in theater than movies at 1
    	time, so her movie career is only about 7 years old while her
    	theater career is very probably much older.
    

    Wow, lot of replies to this... Must be a hot topic with people!
    
    I'd have to agree also on Marlon Brando.  I'm not sure what people
    saw in him.
    
    Gene Hackman is cool though, and Nicholson is great *I* think!
    I can't imagine who could have played his part in The Shining better.
    Or any of his other movies for that matter.
    
    Ken
    

    
    
    Jack Nicolson...one trick pony!
    
    
    

    Re -.1
    
    	But it's a helluva good trick ( entertaining, anyways :-) )
    
    - Jimbo

    Can't stand Brando.
    
    
    E

    
    
    I believe that Brando was a good actor in days past...but those days
    are long gone. When you hear about him having his lines fed to him 
    via hidden transmitter and you see his emotionless portrayals in 
    recent movies then you start to realize that producers are just
    milking his past glory days.
    
    re Superman, I think the beginning sets the story for Superman's
    entire existance and missing it just leaves you wondering how
    he came to be.
    
    With any movie, the beginning and ending are parts of the movie.
    To intentionally miss one or both makes the entire effort a waste.
    Now, I also have to say that, yes, there are beginnings and endings
    that are very poorly done, but they are still part of the entire effort
    so judge the entire movie and not just the parts you like.
    
    re Clint Eastwood and John Wayne
    
    
    I like all their flicks too. 
    
    Chris
    :)

    Regarding Emma Thompson's past, I believe she came from the Oxford and
    Cambridge Universities tradition of young comedians.  She was one of
    a group of friends/fellow students who I believe formed a troupe.  They 
    were quite popular in the UK, so her move to the US and US-made/financed 
    films is quite recent.  Stephen Fry & Hugh Laurie, however, weren't so 
    successful in trying to "cross the pond".  The Monty Python bunch were 
    the last big group of Oxbridge students to really make it big in the US.
    
    So, she has formal theater training as well as a comedic background,
    but all from the UK.
    
    Sue
    
    ps I think she's about 35ish.
    
                          

    
    With regard to Thompson's filmography (I find her nauseating to watch,
    but that's not the point)  I notice one of the films she was in was "my
    father the hero", which brings me to my point.
    
    When it was made, it was called "Mon pere ce heros" and was made in
    France, it was since remade by Hollywood and called "my father the
    hero" which is a literal translation so no problem there.  My question
    is, what idiot saw fit to rename this film "Daddy Cool" (presumably for
    the American market) and why has he not been shot?  
    
    
    I.

  Brando was great in his early films. I also liked his version of Mutiny on
the Bounty "Well one really must serve in the military and the Army is a bit
dusty". One thing that makes that story great is that all three movie versions
tell the story with a different twist and each adds something to the legend. 

  Obviously in his later films he's coasting on his reputation. 

  George 

    This film (in which Thompson has a cameo, for all intents and
    purposes) was released in the U.S. as "My Father The Hero", not
    "Daddy Cool".  Don't know where it was called that, but it
    wasn't here.
    
    Emma Thompson is not an actor that I hate to watch or hear.
    
    Chris

    RE:  1120.5
    
    One of the worst acters as far as I'm concerned.  I can't stand Marlon
    Brando.
    
    
    E Grace Noonan

    
    
    not the Marlon Brando rathole again!!
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    Whether or not he is still a "Great" actor, Marlon Brando is a living 
    
    legend.  
    
    He is one of the original "American Film Method Actors".
    
                           Something like that.