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| 2083.1 | History repeating.... | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Mon May 17 1993 10:59 | 5 |
| Not so, BMW build a very nice 3-series "Touring" models in the
seventies. These models were real 3-door versions and not stationcars,
so 3-series hatchbacks have been around before!
Peter
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| 2083.2 | I'd love a 318i.Just like Steve Soper's. | PEKING::ATKINSA | PRC Vauxman. | Mon May 17 1993 11:20 | 17 |
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RE-2
>>For the younger driver<<
What a joke.
The insurance scenario:
Me: Yes it's a quote 1.8i 16valve BMW.
INsurance: Do you have a small fortune tucked away?
Me: I'm affraid not!
Insurance: Goodbye then!
Unless you regard young as being in your twenties! :-)
Andy..
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| 2083.3 | | KERNEL::MCGOWAN | | Mon May 17 1993 16:22 | 7 |
| re .1
I've seen a 2002 touring with a hatchback, but never a 3 series.
RU sure ?
Pete
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| 2083.4 | Quite nice actually. | UTROP1::BOSMAN_P | | Mon May 17 1993 18:23 | 11 |
| Pete,
Sorry, my fault. The 02-series being the archetype of the 3-series had
me heaping them together.
The 2002 Ti was the hot-hatch of the day, albeit virtually unknown and
not popular in its days. Some very smart bright orange cars can still
be seen as circuit cars on Zandvoort circuit.
Nowadays these hatches are the most sought after 02-items, save for the
rare Turbo that is.
Peter
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| 2083.5 | I feel better now I've said that... | CHEFS::MARCHR | | Mon May 17 1993 21:19 | 17 |
| As long as this hot-hatch isn't front wheel drive - I don't care.
Up until now BMW have stuck with rear wheel drive not pandering to the
lower skilled drivers need for a built in early warning system for loss
of grip.
Rear wheel drive is the ultimate sporting configuration (4X4 just makes
up for total driving inability) proven by the dominance of the BMWs in
the BTCC series - even with a 10% weight penalty over front wheel
drive.
FLAME_OFF
Crikey where did that come from ! Must have been the frustrations of
working for Digital getting to me !
8^)
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| 2083.6 | What about when it is wet? | TASTY::JEFFERY | Children need to learn about X in school | Mon May 17 1993 23:17 | 12 |
| >> Rear wheel drive is the ultimate sporting configuration (4X4 just makes
>> up for total driving inability) proven by the dominance of the BMWs in
>> the BTCC series - even with a 10% weight penalty over front wheel
>> drive.
Hang on a minute. Didn't the Front Wheel Drive Renault 19 16Vs come 1st
and 2nd place when it was raining in the BTCC series. Surely proof that
when it comes to handling rather than raw power, the FWD R19 comes out
very well compared to the RWD BMW's ???
Mark Jeffery (purely unbiased, and waiting for his Renault 19 16V to
arrive!)
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| 2083.7 | | CHEFS::MARCHR | | Tue May 18 1993 14:12 | 1 |
| tyres
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| 2083.8 | | TASTY::JEFFERY | Children need to learn about X in school | Tue May 18 1993 23:14 | 7 |
| Enigmatic to say the least!
Did the BMW's go round on their rims?
Must have cornered like they were on rails!
Mark.
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| 2083.9 | | ABACUS::SCHREIBER_G | Relax...homebrew picks up on bad karma | Wed May 19 1993 01:41 | 4 |
| Just saw an advert in the states for a 5 series bimmer wagon. 4 door
with a rear hatch. Didn't like the looks much but it had a nifty
double sunroof. Not two singles but one that had two panels that
open up even over the rear passengers creating one VERY large opening.
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| 2083.10 | | TPLAB::SLOPER | | Wed May 19 1993 19:36 | 11 |
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Re: .5
>Rear wheel drive is the ultimate sporting configuration (4X4 just makes
>up for total driving inability) proven by the dominance of the BMWs in
>the BTCC series - even with a 10% weight penalty over front wheel
>drive.
Do you think anybody's told Lancia?
Ian.
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| 2083.11 | No signs of front drive in F1... | CHEFS::MARCHR | | Wed May 19 1993 21:17 | 2 |
| Front wheel drive just feels fast - makes you think you're going faster
than you are. Italiens love that sort of thing.
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| 2083.12 | | TPLAB::SLOPER | | Thu May 20 1993 13:18 | 9 |
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Having just returned from a drive around Italy,
I can assure you that the Italians have scant
regard for which set of wheels the power is
going through. On the Italian motorways they
seem to average around 180 kph. *But* they use
their mirrors and get out of your way.
Ian.
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| 2083.13 | Talking out of my a***! | CHEFS::MARCHR | | Thu May 20 1993 23:25 | 12 |
| Actually I've never driven in Italy - so I'm totally unjustified in
making assumptions, but my note was only semi serious.
However people who visit Italy have one of two opinions about Italien
driving IMHO, either:
1. "Mad drivers, worst in Europe, death wish driving"
2. "Never had so much fun, superb drivers, safe at high speed"
I think I would go for No.2, based on what I've heard from drivers who I'd
call confident, fast and safe.
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| 2083.14 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Fri May 21 1993 13:10 | 6 |
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The main thing I've noticed about a lot of italian drivers, is that they drive
so close that it would be difficult to get a credit card between the cars !
(yes I have driven in Italy)
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| 2083.15 | Only a fool breaks the two-second rule 8*) | PEKING::SMITHRW | The Great Pyramid of Bloke | Fri May 21 1993 16:04 | 9 |
| ...especially on the autostrada. I've been in rush-hour traffic around
Firenze and watched the almost-pile-up that happens every time somebody
sneezes or changes lanes a couple of miles away. Unsophisticated.
Naturally, I was leaving a bit of space in front of me, and having none
of these problems. And nobody tried to cut in on me, either...
Richard
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| 2083.16 | Very curteous (sp) | VANTEN::MITCHELLD | "Management is opaque" | Fri May 21 1993 18:53 | 4 |
| They will let you in a file of traffic but hoot if you
dont move quick enough.(N .italy)
Fair enough
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| 2083.17 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | Call me anything but late. | Sat May 22 1993 05:25 | 8 |
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Jane,
You mean they let Nova's on the Italian motorways ?
8^)
-tony
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| 2083.18 | Five-a-Side | PEKING::SMITHRW | The Great Pyramid of Bloke | Mon May 24 1993 16:42 | 9 |
| Italian motorways are less overwhelming than you might imagine. For
instance, they're only two lanes a side - like a dual carriageway with
toll booths. If you want high-concept Star Wars attack traffic, stick
with the M4 (London end). And if you want lots of lanes to get lost
on, try the Belfast Urban Motorway (or BUM, as it is known). Five
lanes a side, widest in Europe when it was built.
Richard
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| 2083.19 | | MAJORS::ALFORD | lying Shipwrecked and comatose... | Mon May 24 1993 17:28 | 8 |
| Re: .17
> You mean they let Nova's on the Italian motorways ?
I wouldn't know...I didn't have a Nova at the time :-)
They seem to let minis on them though !
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| 2083.20 | | TPLAB::SLOPER | | Tue May 25 1993 16:30 | 12 |
| Re: .18
The motorway from Venice to Milan, (and beyond),
is three lane. For most of it's length there's a minimum
speed limit on the two offside lanes. From memory I think
it was 90kph in the outside lane. I can't remember what
it is in the middle lane.
I calculated that Italians simply double all
numbers on road signs, e.g. for minimum 90, read 180.
Ian.
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| 2083.21 | Rat-holing ??? | AYOU35::WARREN | | Tue May 25 1993 19:32 | 1 |
| I hadn't realised that this topic was on European Motorways etc???
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| 2083.22 | | PEKING::SMITHRW | The Great Pyramid of Bloke | Tue May 25 1993 20:43 | 7 |
| re: -1
By no means. Anyone with anything to say about freeways is welcome to
contribute.
Richard
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| 2083.23 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Tue May 25 1993 20:50 | 5 |
| 2083.24 | | TPLAB::SLOPER | | Wed May 26 1993 12:03 | 2 |
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Bob Marley bought a BMW because he liked the name.
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| 2083.25 | Speed? Moi? | NSDC::KENNEDY_C | Going places .... | Wed May 26 1993 12:14 | 5 |
| 2083.26 | | TPLAB::SLOPER | | Wed May 26 1993 17:03 | 6 |
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I heard that the Swiss police have had a whole
batch of speeding tickets printed with your name
hard coded on them.
Ian.
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| 2083.27 | Hi! | NSDC::KENNEDY_C | Going places .... | Wed May 26 1993 18:41 | 5 |
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Bog off Sloper ....
Just 'cause the Integrale can't keep up is no excuse ....
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| 2083.28 | Go around the bend quicker in an Integrale. | TPLAB::SLOPER | | Wed May 26 1993 19:54 | 7 |
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My money's on the Integrale against your
Volkswagen up the Gotthard pass and down
again.
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| 2083.29 | Gonna hire a Jet? | NSDC::KENNEDY_C | Going places .... | Wed May 26 1993 20:30 | 6 |
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Well they used to be made by Audi, if a FIAT driver is interested. It's
out of production now, as should be yours. When you can't keep up
between Bevaix and St. Aubain, then the Gothard should be real fun.
So, how much?
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