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Conference rdvax::grateful

Title:Take my advice, you'd be better off DEAD
Notice:It's just a Box of Rain
Moderator:RDVAX::LEVY::DEBESS
Created:Thu Jan 03 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:580
Total number of notes:60238

461.0. "Make your own bootleg CDs..." by NOVA::ARNOLD () Thu Jun 01 1995 21:07

    
        Does anyone have an interest in transferring bootleg tapes
    (either cassette or DAT) to *recordable* Compact Disc? The blank
    discs are under $8 now and playable in any CD player. The tapes
    would have to be digitized into a PC before being written to CD.
    
    If anyone is interested, let me know...
    
    -Jeff
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461.1ROCK::FROMMThis space intentionally left blank.Thu Jun 01 1995 21:2516
>The tapes
>    would have to be digitized into a PC before being written to CD.

i hope you don't mean that it would have to be stored in RAM...

first of all, many sets couldn't fit on a CD.  but let's say you had a 75
minute set:
 
75 min X 60 sec/min X 44.1 ksamples/sec X 32 bits/sample X 2 channels
= 12,700,800,000 bits
=  1,587,600,000 bytes
   
1.6 Gig is a lot of memory.  even if you could accomplish 10:1 compression,
you'd still need 160 Meg.

- rich
461.2STAR::HUGHESCaptain SlogThu Jun 01 1995 22:3218
    Nominal CD data is 44.1 ksamples/sec x 16 bits/sample, not 32 (although
    some CD audio mastering systems apparently digitise at 18 or 20
    bits/sample and filter down to 16).
    
    CD mastering subsystems for PCs often include a hard disk large enough
    to hold a CD's worth. You write out to the disk and edit that until you
    have it right and then tell it to transfer to the CD-R. Once advantage
    of this scheme is that you can usually tell the hard disk to behave
    like a single or double speed CD-ROM drive so you can test drive the app
    (not so important for raw data, critical for multimedia).
    
    There are also straight CD-R drives, but I don't know if they are
    capable of writing CD-DA (audio) format.
    
    Compression is of course not an option if you want these things to be
    playable on an audio CD player.
    
    gary
461.3SUBPAC::MAGGARDMail Order WivesFri Jun 02 1995 14:0613
> -< Make your own bootleg CDs... >-

I saw some Italian-import bootleg Phish CDs last weekend in a CD-swap-shop...
single live CD - $30.  double live CD - $60.

And my second thought (after "HOLY SH*T, I'd be rich if I didn't have any
sense of ethics!") was that I already have both shows on DAT :-)

BTW, the Phish live CD comes out on June 27th -- so says the latest Doniac
Schvice.


- jeff
461.4AWATS::WESTERVELTFri Jun 02 1995 14:137
    I'm beginning to appreciate ethics (I bought a couple of those
    discs).  Music for the peeple!

    p.s. like the title of the new live one " A LIVE ONE "  :-)

    Tom