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    In todays Colo. Springs Gazette...
    
    The Jerry Garcia Band with Blues Traveler at RED ROCKS...
    
    Dates July 17,18.
    Price 22.00.......
    tickets on sale from ticketmaster may 20th....
    
    
    Divide Dave
    
     . .
      ,
    \___/
    
    
    \___/

    
    Have Jerry shows been done via mail order in the past?  I can't
    recall any notes on this.   I would love some info on this.
    
    REDROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    
    WOW!  JGB and Blues Traveler at Red Rocks?!?!?!?!!!!!!!
    
    Think I might just have to venture out west for this.  :-)  Wish it was
    a weekend...
    
    :-)
    

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In article <630@cronos.metaphor.com> pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens) writes:
>In today's San Jose Mercury there is an article describing some
>of Bill Graham's plans for summer shows.  Two of the more notable
>ones are,
>
>Jerry Garcia Band - Aug. 19 Telluride CO
>Garcia & Grisman - Aug. 24 Squaw Valley CA
>Jerry Garcia Band - Aug. 25 Squaw Valley CA
>
>The Allman Bros are also playing Telluride sometime this summer.


Allow me to quote the article:  Too SWEET!!!!!    Yeah!!!!!!!

	Mammoth Mountain: 
		June 22: Oingo Boingo;
		June 23: Crosby, Stills and Nash (acoustic)

	Telluride:
		July 19: JGB, NRBQ, Asleep at the Wheel
		July 20: Joe Cocker, Blues Traveler
		July 21: Allman Brothers


			Ohhhhhh... (my addition!)

	Squaw Valley:
		Aug. 24: Jerry Garcia and David Grisman
		Aug. 25: JGB (electric) and Neville Brothers

	Tickets are $25 and should go on sale the beginning of
	May.  Call (408) 998-2277 or (415) 762-2277 (BASS I assume)

This is the best summer news I've heard of yet.
Put on those hiking boots...see ya on the slopes!!!!!

Yeeeee Haaawwwwwww!!!!!!!!!


Now lets get PHISH to get up there and join in on the fun!!!

PHorever PHishPHull 

-hairy phishmonger

Heck, I'd like to go just to see Asleep at the Wheel!






Jim

     Telluride!!!!!!!
    
     GRATE, THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE BEST PLACES IN THE WORLD TO GO.....
    
    Like said this is going to be a GRATE summer,
    Just over the pass a few miles is a little town called Dutton, use to
    be there was not a phone or a tv in the town just a bar and a hot
    springs...
    
    Divide Dave
    Going to be a broke but happy summer....
    
    
    
    

    Damn Damn Damn all my available money goes for a trip to FLA (not that
    I'm complaining) to see my folks who I have not seen in a year...the
    sad part was that my wife suggested a drive out west in July and
    with 160 hours of vacation why not but Fla. and family has to come
    first MAYBE THEY"LL COME EAST....
    
    rich who has not been having fun at all lately
    

    re:phone numbers
    
    from the news paper an i quote.
    
    Tickets to all shows may charged by phone by calling (303)290-8497,
    from 10am-10pm monday through friday, and from 10am-8pm saturday and
    sunday.
    
    Rememeber that these times are mountain times...
    
    Later
    Divide Dave
    

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In article <630@cronos.metaphor.com>, pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens) writes:
|> In today's San Jose Mercury there is an article describing some
|> of Bill Graham's plans for summer shows.  Two of the more notable
|> ones are,
|> 
|> Jerry Garcia Band - Aug. 19 Telluride CO
                       ^^^
Allow me to correct myself,  That should be JULY 19 for Telluride.
(According to the S.J. Mercury)

These are the dates listed for Squaw:

|> Garcia & Grisman - Aug. 24 Squaw Valley CA
|> Jerry Garcia Band - Aug. 25 Squaw Valley CA


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   Paul Stevens                        {apple|decwrl}!metaphor!pstevens
   Metaphor Computer Systems           pstevens@metaphor.com
   Mountain View, CA

    
    Now i have problems!
     I was all set to go to Red Rocks in July and Telluride in August.
    I planned on doing some camping down around Telluride and spend two or
    three days just fishing and drinking beer.
     Now I have to decide on what i'm going to do?????
    
    Oh well its still going to be a GRATE summer.
    
    Divide Dave
    

Anybody got a line on when tix go on sale for the Red Rocks show. Not having 
heard the anouncment,a friend of mine and I showed up to get tix on 5/20. 
They had no cluewhen tix would go on sale. 

:-Chuck

    When do tix go on sale for the JGB at the Centrum (or did I already
    miss it)?  Does anyone have the JGB fall tour dates?
    
    Jamie
    
    This note could use a keyword too.  :^)

	Not sure when the Centrum tix go on sale but MSG ones
	go on sale on the 12th of October.  That show is the
	Friday after the Centrum show.  Thanks for the reminder
	to put this in Jamie.  By the way, the tour dates are
	here someplace, Gerry also sent them to the members.

	Jamie, have you gone keyword crazy??  :-)

    re .-1
    
>	Jamie, have you gone keyword crazy??  :-)
    
    No, I've just had the need to look for a couple of notes and had to do
    a dir/title (which is pretty quick anyways 'cause this conference is
    small) instead of a (preferable) keyword search.  Being the helpful
    contributing member of the GRATEFUL community that I am, I added 
    friendly reminders to our moderators while writing my informative notes. 
    Now to find out about Adam's first time, which I know I can easily find
    in GRATEFUL_OLD thanks to keywords.
    
    Jamie

>    No, I've just had the need to look for a couple of notes and had to do
>    a dir/title (which is pretty quick anyways 'cause this conference is


I added keywords "JGB" and "JERRY_GARCIA_BAND" to this topic.  One thing I
have is a batch job that takes a directory of a list of conferences I define
(via a database) weekly.  then, when i needs to do a dir/title search, i
spawn out of notes, search dead.lis for the topic i want, logout, and go
to the topic.  takes under 10 seconds to do this.  if you wish to acquire
this command procedure, give me a hollar at ZENDIA::FERGUSON (this is where
the program lives).

jc

re:< Note 151.14 by FRAGLE::IDE "now it can be told" >

>    Now to find out about Adam's first time, which I know I can easily find
>    in GRATEFUL_OLD thanks to keywords.

Just ask Billetier..  he added the keyword!

(don't get the wrong idea..)

adam

>>    Now to find out about Adam's first time, which I know I can easily find
>>    in GRATEFUL_OLD thanks to keywords.

>Just ask Billetier..  he added the keyword!

>(don't get the wrong idea..)

	oh we wouldn't, we know it wasn't Billitier's first time!  :-)

   :^)

    
    	Got my dandelion workin...
    	Got whole truck load of god ole lovin for my baby
    	Gonna meet her next Sunday
    	and give it all away
    	<insert blues guitar riff here>
    
    								/
    
    	PS :-)
    

re:< Note 151.19 by STAR::SALKEWICZ "It missed... therefore, I am " >
>                      -< New blues tune... "Adams First" >-
>
>    	Got my dandelion workin...
>    	Got whole truck load of god ole lovin for my baby
>    	Gonna meet her next Sunday
>    	and give it all away
>    	<insert blues guitar riff here>

I like it!  You have permission to use my likeness in this song if you decide
to add it to your band's repertoire.

adam

    Won't be inclined to give you royalties untile one of the following
    happens:
    
    	1) I use your name in the tune
    	2) The dandelion wilts
    	3) Lisa helps you out with your second time
    	4) Jim finds something,.. anything on that coffee table
    	5) Jerry and the boys do a cover of Amazing Grace
    	6) Mickey sings
    	7) GerG makes me 1st gen coipies of all his vault tapes
    	8) Probably becomes a maybe
    	9) Fog clears
    	10) Phyllis makes a pun
    	11) Bob WHite breaks the copyright laws
    	12) Andy forgets to wear Tie die
    	13) Coz comes back :-(
    
    
    								/
    

/er you crack me up!

:) :) :)

RE:     <<< Note 151.21 by STAR::SALKEWICZ "It missed... therefore, I am " >>>
                               -< see my agent! >-

   >    	4) Jim finds something,.. anything on that coffee table
        
         Well, that's one down.  I found my keys on there last week.  :^)    






Jim

		Huh??


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

It just occurred to me that the JGB tour is right after his album comes out.
Is Jerry shamelessly going on tour to promote his album?  Horrors!!


Bill

>             <<< Note 151.25 by SHKDWN::TAYLOR "Nothing shakin'" >>>
 
>It just occurred to me that the JGB tour is right after his album comes out.
>Is Jerry shamelessly going on tour to promote his album?  Horrors!!

    Actually, the JGB tours constantly. I really doubt he's going on
    tour *specifically* to sell the album - although sales will surely
    escalate during the tour. As will the recent Garcia/Grisman release.
    He just hasn't played in the East in a while, understandably prefering
    to play at home.
    
    FWIW, the Dead did tour Europe blatantly promoting Without A Net.

    JGB on-sale dates from the hotline, sorry if this has already been posted...
    
   SHOW DATE         CITY                    TIX ON-SALE DATE
   =====================================================================
   11/6 & 11/7      Landover                 9/30
   11/9             Hampton                 10/04
   11/10            Charlotte               10/04
   11/12            Philadelphia            10/12
   11/13            Worcester               10/05
   11/15            New York City           10/12
   11/16            Albany                  TBA
   11/17            Hartford                TBA
   11/19            Providence               9/28
   11/20            Rochester               TBA
   11/22            Rosemont                10/12
   11/23            Milwaukee               10/12
   11/24            Minneapolis             10/12

For Worcester, is that going to be handled by TicketShafter?

Re:                      <<< Note 151.27 by SA1794::GLADUG >>>
>                            -< JGB on-sale dates >-
>
>   JGB on-sale dates from the hotline, sorry if this has already been posted...
>
>   SHOW DATE         CITY                    TIX ON-SALE DATE

>   11/13            Worcester               10/05

	While hanging out at the Minor Chord yesterday, picking up the 
	new Nanci Griffith CD, I was talking about the Dead shows at the
	garden with the clerk.  He has seen Tuesday night's show, thought
	it was good.

	Then we started talking about the JGB tour.  He said he was going 
	but that getting money together for tickets so soon after the
	Garden shows was a challenge.

	So soon?  I told I thought the on sale date for Worcester was
	Saturday, 12 October.  He said, no, it's *this* saturday, 28 Sep.
	He firedup the Ticketmaster terminal and confirmed that:

	    JGB for the Centrum Go On Sale Saturday, 28 Septmber!!!

	No on sale date for Providence was listed...

	See y'all in line,
	Bob

    
    I think someone should send this info out to the members.  I would, but
    pocus doesn't have nmail and terapn doesn't have the full network data
    base.
    
    Phyllis
    

RE:          <<< Note 151.30 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >>>
                               -< send/members >-

Done.

    
    Thanks! :-)
    
    

Bob White -- THANK YOU!!!!

It's not a rumor, folks, it's real.  I just verified with another
Ticketmaster agency.

tms

    RATS!!!  Guess who's not going to be around to stand in line on
    Saturday.  Is there anybody within driving distance of SHR3 who's
    gonna be buying tix on Saturday who wouldn't mind picking me up a
    couple?  I can get ya the money tomorrow (that's why ya gotta be
    within driving distance of SHR).
    
    ... Bob
    

    
    I just called Ticketmaster and Providence is also on sale this
    Saturday.
    
    
    

    I heard on WHJY in Providence that JGB for Providence is this Saturday
    also!!
    
    dave should_I_send/memebers_this_also?
    

    
    I vote yes.
    
    

	Forget about Worcester Rectum Box Office.  I called them
	today and they said they gave out over 350 "wrist bands"
	yesterday :-/

	Looks like it's gonna be a tough ticket to get!

	Ken

    WOW!  Talk about a notes collision!
    
    Funny, I believe I heard the Providence Civic Center was giving out
    wrist bands also.  The dj said to stop by and get your wrist band on
    your way to the Garden Show (last night).
    
    dave

RE: JGB tix

What time on Saturday?  The usual at 10:00 AM shahp, er, sharp?  (must be those
bahston shows :-)

Phyllis, do you know if NYC ticketshafters are going to carry jgb tix for
Worc & Prov ???

Wanna go; I will order the max allowed....

    
    Yes, NYC #'s will work for the Worcester and Providence shows.
    
    

Well, I just got through.... 10:16 am or so. My seats are in the upper
teir....

what time did tix go on sale?  9 am ?  I thought 10 am was the time......

oh well...

I was in line at the TicketShafter at the Greendale mall when tickets went on 
sale at 10:00, at about 10:20 I was at the window.  I got nosebleed seats too!
To quote Mystery, "I think I smell Cigar smoke!"


Kevin 

	I was FIRST in line at a Ticketmaster and got tickets at 10:01 am.
	Section 123 row EE, which is a couple of rows off the floor at
	the 50 yard line.  ok seats but I expected 10th row or thereabouts
	(hah!).   Sure makes me wonder...

	I think the Worcester Rectum is part of a scalper scam.  I called
	them constantly about details like wristbands and all that, didn't
	get to call wednesday, and on thursday the box office said "oh yes,
	350 wristbands were given out yesterday"!  They said that this was 
	announced on the radio (did ANYONE hear it?) and that it was in the 
	paper.  I haven't bought the Worcester paper recently, did anyone see 
	anything ?    I did buy the paper on friday and it included what looked 
	like a first announcement of the jerry show.

	And for this aggravation I got to pay $8.50 is fees to TicketShafter!

	Ken

	SO, does anyone know when Albany and Hartford go on sale?
				
				Lisa_opting_for_the_weekend_shows_
				so_she_can_go_with_her_honey_:-)

    I got 3 tix over the phone at about 10:20. Probably nosebleed
    seats but I'm in the door!
    
    - Dave

	One has to wonder where the hell all the lower section seats went?
I got through at 10:16 ... or so, and every other time I've ever gotten
through this early, I've received decent seats.  Upper level at 10:16 ?  
Something is fishy!  Very fishy!!  

	

	Well, I went and stood at line at my favorite Ticketmaster
	outlet on Saturday morning.  I arrived there at about 9:40
	and was 22nd in line.  And no, i won't tell you of which outlet
	I am speaking :-) :-) :-)

	There wsa only one person working the ticket machine.  Even 
	though he was doing a great job, he still had to take your order,
	punch in the request, take your money, give you your tickets,
	make change and then move on to the next person.  Well, OK,
	he did a bit of pipelining and that speeded things up a bit but
	not lots.

	I estimate it was at least 10:15 when I got to the counter.  I
	asked for six tickets and received Section 103, Row F.  This
	is pretty much straight away from the stage, a bit into the
	corner on the "Phil" side, in the upper section of the lower
	seating seating section (if there were no memory errors 
	retrieving that information).

	Pretty good seats, I'm pretty pleased - and thankful.  Sorry 
	about the rest of you that didn't make out so well.  But it is
	defintiely curious why I did so well at a time when others
	seemed not to be...

	Bob_back_from_IEEE_meetings_in_Dearborn

    Well, if the situation is like the last tiome JGB played the Centrum,
    you could get tickets from scalpers for much less than face value at
    the show, and get decent seats. It may not be the same this time around
    since they announced this show well in advance and it's the only show
    this side of Providence or Hartford.
    
    Scott
    

      I'd like to see JGB in Hartford....anybody know if it's
    Ticketmaster or Ticketpro?  any phone #'s
    
    I think they go on sale saturday
    
    Sean

The tickets do go on sale this Saturday October 5.  I *think* it's Ticketmaster
but I'm not sure because the radio station didn't say and neither does there
telephone concert line.  I'm trying to find out.

Chuck

    i am in for Jerry at the Centrum so this question is mostly a point of
    curiousity...
    
    does anyone know if the Centrum has sold out yet?
    
    did Providence go on sale the same day?
    
    is Providence sold out yet?
    
    						da ve

Re:<<< Note 151.53 by ROULET::DWEST "Dont Overlook Something Extraordinary" >>>
                                    -< ?'s >-

>    does anyone know if the Centrum has sold out yet?

	It had not as of 6 PM last night - but all that was left were
	obstructed views and a few singles
    
>    did Providence go on sale the same day?

	Yes
    
>    is Providence sold out yet?

	I don't know...

	Bob
    

    
    Does anyone know if Garcia has been playing
    Cat's Under the Stars 
    at all lately
    
    I just bought the tape and it is great!

re"                      <<< Note 151.55 by EBBV03::SMITH >>>
>                           -< Cats Under the Stars >-
>
>    
>    Does anyone know if Garcia has been playing
>    Cat's Under the Stars 
>    at all lately
    

	Yes, it's in the repertoire...  I agree, it's a great tune!

	Ken

    
    Great, I hope they play it Providence.
    
    I just heard Stoned Me for the first time recently
    
    What is( Jelly Roll????)?
    

    Jelly Roll is a common pastry available at many bakeries and grocery
    stores. Basically cake rolled with a jelly filling.
    
    I've always had the impression it had some other connotations
    concerning an entirely different type of confection, specifically of a
    prurient nature, e.g.: "I think I'll go hang around back and try and
    pick up some Jelly Roll" - David Bromberg.  I meant to ask him several
    questions like this one last year when we saw him at the OVK, but I
    never got around tuit. :-)
    
    tim

    Jelly Roll :== SEX
    
    

    and the tight translation is????
    
    rich

    Sex is too broad a definition for that sweet jelly roll....
    I think rich is much closer, even though his answer is a question that
    is the answer. 
                 rfb

    Rich,..
    
    		I-,. I-I-
    
    		I can't say it
    
    				/:-0
    

   Everybody say Hey Now!!    :^)

Dupre - didn't he go to jail for that sweet ole' jelly roll? :)....

:)
bob

    hey now,
    
    rich

    "and it's no wonder your reason goes bad,
    jelly roll will drive you stone mad"
    
    AMEN!!!!!
    
    "..well it's well understood, and you got to admit that that sweet,
    sweet jelly's so good"
    
     can i get another AMEN!!!!!
                                rfb (hooked on jelly roll)

    Hey now, Amen......
    
    and one more time....
    
    rich

    hey now and amen!!!  :^)
    
    personally i could do with a "spoonful" right about now...
    
                        		:^)
    			
    					da ve

    would that be a spooonful of coffee?
    
    or a spoonful of tea
    
    or a spoonful of your precious,....
    
    
    
    marmalade?
    
    					/
    

    
    that spoon
    	that spoon
    		that spoon FULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    					da ve_from_right_field

slash from left and da ve from right .... hmmmm, now that explains alot!  :-)

	I've always known the slang for jelly roll precisely as "doing it" (for
lack of a term that is suitable for this audience).

	I was thinking a few nights ago and wondering why there has not been
a lot of JGB discussion here as show time draws closer.  I wonder if I've
rec'd my tickets yet?  When is the show for Worc, MA anyways?

	I'm psyched for a Jerry show...

      <<< Note 151.72 by ESASE1::JCFERGUSON "Guinness is good for you." >>>
<	I've always known the slang for jelly roll precisely as "doing it" (for
>lack of a term that is suitable for this audience).

hey now JC-mon,

you ever coming back?  2 sips'o'guinness and he's born to be Irish :)

as for Jelly Roll,  I always thought it was NOT "doing it" but rather 
what you did it too :)

:)
bob

re:      <<< Note 151.72 by ESASE1::JCFERGUSON "Guinness is good for you." >>>
   
>I've always known the slang for jelly roll precisely as "doing it" 

    Not exactly. Jelly roll is slang for a certain part of the human
    anatomy that neither I nor anyone named "Dave" could possibly
    possess without drastic alteration. :-)

    :-)
    
    You guys are a riot.

>    Not exactly. Jelly roll is slang for a certain part of the human
>    anatomy that neither I nor anyone named "Dave" could possibly
>    possess without drastic alteration. :-)

	Wow, I could have fun with this statement!  :-)  Good thing
	you didn't write it yesterday afternoon Ger!  ;^)

    
    MMMMMM, so do we have a mutual agreement on the meaning of jelly-roll
    I think it is something sweet that is rolled myself :^)
    
    Like a Jelly Roll,  hee hee

I'm hittin' the road outta here tomorrow morning, at 08:10 (03:10 Boston time).
I fly to London, then to Boston, 2:45 lay over (great).

I talked to Deb yesturday and she mentioned that some hurricane is coming to
visit New England.  What is the story on this?

I'll probably end up in Chicago or something!!!!

JC, who isn't the best 'flyer' in the world!

re:      <<< Note 151.78 by ESASE1::JCFERGUSON "Guinness is good for you." >>>
   
>I talked to Deb yesturday and she mentioned that some hurricane is coming to
>visit New England.  What is the story on this?

    We had a Nor'easter yesterday - ie a hurricane that blew by New England 
    then swirled back down out of the northeast. Other than that, I don't
    know what else it could be.

	That hurricane/no'easta did a mighty fine job of clearing the 
	shin-deep blanket of leaves off my yard, and left a neat little
	pile of leaves in the driveway to dispose of (in the woods ;-)

	;-)

	Ken

JC mon, have a good trip home.  The storm is winding down, but at it's 
strongest yesterday many people on the cape and south shore said it was 
stronger than hurry cane Bob and the storm we all know as the Blizzard of 
'78.  Lots of boats and coastal homes are simply gone.  The news showed 
some amazing footage of waves crashing into sea walls with surf and spray 
rising about 30-50 feet (that's about 10-20 meters 8^) into the air - no 
exaggeration!.  The winds on the cape were sustained at 70 mph.  At high tide 
the ocean in some areas came 1/2 mile inland according to the news.  Pretty 
intense storm, depending on what time you some in you may get a birds eye view 
on some pretty extensive damage (they are predicting clearing skys tomorrow and 
the weekend).

Scott

Well, despite the winds the pile of leaves aside Fog's driveway was still big
enough for both of us to jump in and be totally covered with wet leaves (ahh,
I love the smell of wet leaves).  It was certainly alot of fun, thanks Fog.
Oh and by the way .... I had the pleasure to see "Gloria" last night, the pink
New Yorker circa 60's with wings "the size of Lisa Yetto".  We measured, and
it's close - but I am bigger!  Heh heh, I am bigger than Charley_O too ...
I like it when I can say things like that!  :-)

RE:     <<< Note 151.82 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "child of countless dreams" >>>


>enough for both of us to jump in and be totally covered with wet leaves (ahh,

	Yes, s'been a while since I did that, and it did tickle me fancy.  :-)

Thanks for the great book, Lisa, and thanks to Ger for his lil part.

Fog_who_also_was_grateful_to_last_nites_Nor_easter_for_re_piling_all_his_leaves.

Re:                <<< Note 151.83 by SPICE::PECKAR "Hail Baby!" >>>
>               -< Its Offishal: Gloria: 4' 7", Lisa; 5' 2" :-) >-
							 ^
     while we are in thank you mode ... thanks for the inch Fog!  :-)

Lisa_whose_5'1"_on_a_good_day_:-)

re:     <<< Note 151.83 by SPICE::PECKAR "Hail Baby!" >>>
        
>Thanks for the great book, Lisa, and thanks to Ger for his lil part.
    
    Er, li'l part of what?

	Ger, you're a true slueth ... always amidst a mystery!!  :-)

	wish the nor'easter that so nicely piled up your leaves
	for y'all had come HERE...the one that came thru my area
	only knocked all the remaining leaves off my trees and
	all o v e r  the yard...now, my "yard" is really a tiny
	little patch of greenery that I painstakingly wheelbarrelled
	a load of topsoil onto and then planted and take care of
	myself (Guntis wanted to leave the septic field sand exposed...
	"great volleyball court" he said...but I wanted a little patch
	of grass to lay in so I did all the work myself)...ANYWAYS,
	the gist of this rambling is...I want my grass to survive
	so I WILL rake it (and move it to the garden)...just wish the
	wind storm had been so nice as to save me some blisters...
	when I DO rake it, I'll leave the big pile in the bottom
	of the little hill for a few days so's we can RUN down the hill 
	and DIVE and LEAP and SLIDE and JUMP into the heap...wanna visit Lisa?

	Debess

>	of the little hill for a few days so's we can RUN down the hill 
>	and DIVE and LEAP and SLIDE and JUMP into the heap...wanna visit Lisa?

		Thanks sweety ... yes!!  But I'll be away for a couple of
		weeks and then off to Albany to see my good buddy Jerry.  :-)
		I guess it'll have to wait till nect OCTOBER.  ;^(
	

>		Thanks sweety ... yes!!  But I'll be away for a couple of
>		weeks and then off to Albany to see my good buddy Jerry.  :-)


	oh,yes,... FRANCE?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	

>		I guess it'll have to wait till nect OCTOBER.  ;^(

	good month ;-)

	Debess

	

Yes, France!!  :-)  Anyone know any French words to equip me with ...
nothing to get me in trouble now, I can do *that* all by myself thanks!  :-)

RE:     <<< Note 151.91 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "child of countless dreams" >>>


>Yes, France!!  :-)  Anyone know any French words to equip me with ...
>nothing to get me in trouble now, I can do *that* all by myself thanks!  :-)

	Hey Lil' Merde,

	You don't need to know any french in France. All the people there are
so nice, and they all know english really well; just tell them "I'm american!" 
and they'll give you the best seats, the best services, and will wait on you 
hand and foot. You have absolutely nothing to worry about. After all, it was 
the Amrecans who liberated the French from those nasty german guys in WWII!!!

  :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   :-)   

    fogs right
    
    heh-heh
    
    reeeky

Also, learn how to say "I *am* standing up" in case you run into a lot of
folks who aren't used to vertically challenged people :^)




Jim

    
    
    When you order breakfast, lunch, or dinner, alway say:
    
    	"avec beaucoup de la fromage!"
    
    Hogan

    Ce n'est pas un moment detester   (this could be way off, it's been a
    					years since je parle francais)
    
    Je ne suis pas tres petite, tu est tres stupid
    
    Le Chateau? Pour moi? Merci!
    
    

		Thanks but what'd'y'all just say???

	by the way Jim, I may be way off but I don't think I am
	vertically challenged for a European.  At least not to
	the degree I am here around you Amazons of ... 5'10"!!  :-)    
    

	I'd recommend studying the French restaurant scene in the
	first National Lampoon's Vacation movie to give you some idea
	of what to expect ;-)

	Ken

    well Lisa if ya get into trouble just say you Jerry Lewis' neice and
    they might fall to your feet in praise ! 
    
    Chris

    Jerry Lewis est mon oncle!!!  :^)

	Hey Lisa, Napoleon was about your size and they loved him 
	over there so you shouldn't have any problem ;-)

	Ken

Anyone remember this musical line:


	Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?



Who the heck sang that song!!

Scott

    That was the song "Lady Marmalade" by Labelle.

    Don

    ce n'est pas un moment de detester - no time to hate?

    yes!  :^)  

with lines like

	with lots of cheese please

and
	I am not very small you are stupid

How can I go wrong?!?!?!?  Thanks to all for the tips!!  :-)

au revoire,

Lisa

re .100

>    Je ne suis pas tres petite, tu est tres stupide--i am not very small,
>    	you are stupid!  (btw, this uses the familiar form of the word
>    	"you" and is very impolite unless you know the person you are 
>    	speaking to)

	Oh yes,.. very impolite. Always remember to be polite
	when insulting a french poerson's intelligence. They really appreciate
	that...

							/

	Anyone receive their tickets from TicketShafter yet?  I ordered
	mine through the phone and sitll have not rec'd 'em (show is
	1/13, Worcester).

Ok, lets try this again.  Feel free to reply and simply fill in the blanks.
If you don't like answering publically, extract, answer, and forward to me
by mail.

:-)

1) Did you call TicketShafter to get JGB Worcester tickets?

	--- yes    --- no

2) If you answered "yes" to the previous question, have you received your
   tickets yet?

        --- yes    --- no

        If "yes", when did you get them?

3) If you answered "no" to question 2, have done anything about it?

        --- yes    --- no

4) If you answered "yes" to question 3, explain what you did in the space
   provided below.


:-)

     <<< Note 151.112 by BIODTL::FERGUSON "Guinness gives you strength" >>>
         -< Am I the only one that bought JGB tix from ticketshafter? >-

NO JC-mon!  I did too....

1) Did you call TicketShafter to get JGB Worcester tickets?

	YES

2) If you answered "yes" to the previous question, have you received your
   tickets yet?

	YES

        If "yes", when did you get them?

	The evening of November 4th (for the prov, ri show)

3) If you answered "no" to question 2, have done anything about it?

	NA

4) If you answered "yes" to question 3, explain what you did in the space
   provided below.

	NA

:) You'll get em....not to worry JC.  Relax and have one'o'those Guinness'
you brought home :) 
bob

    re .-2
    
    yes, I ordered from TShaft. No, I haven't received them yet. They said
    the tickets would be mailed out 1-2 weeks before the show. Tomorrow is
    1 week before the show. I'm not too worried yet. If you don't get them
    in time TShaft will arrange for some to be available at the box office
    the day of the show; that's why you wrote down your little transaction
    number, right JC?
    
    - Dave

    
    Call up ticketmaster and ask for customer service.  Tell customer
    service you would like to check on the status of a ticket order.  Give
    customer service your order number.  They will tell you whether or not
    your tickets were mailed out yet, and if they were, on what day. 
    Tickets can be mailed as late as 7-10 days before the performance.
    If they were lost in the mail, you will get new tickets held at the box
    office.
    
    

Ok, thanks for the response.  I knew I could have called Ticketshafter, but
why call 'em if I can get an answer here, eh?


thanks... I went home today (5-nov) and still no tix.

jc

If anyone has an "extra" (or even a pair) to the Centrum, I'll volunteer to 
take it off your hands.  I can offer compensation in the form of money, tapes, 
Guinness, a ride to the slopes, or my views on gun control.  8^)  8^)

I'm just feeling the need to go to this show all of a sudden...

Scott

Scott, tix might still be on sale - haven't checked though.

WBOS mentioned the Jerry show at the Centrum, and said you can get tix at
Ticketmaster, so I assume there's still seats left.

adam

I have one ticket for Jerry at the Centrum at cost.....

The seat is in the nosebleed teritory, but it's in the door.

Send mail to yaknow::flanagan.


Kevin

                             -< tickets available >-


	I have two ticket for Jerry at the Centrum at cost.....actually 
	they are my girlfriend Jane's..

	She has asked me to call her at 508-365-5379 (her Clinton residence)

	They are section 211 ROW E

	thanks,

	Mikki	

I have two tickets available for JGB at the Centrum in Worcester.  Available
at my cost.  They're in section 229 (balcony, right side, just ahead of the
stage).

Interested?  Please send mail to MAST::DUTTON

	-Todd

Wow, lots of extras floating around.  Well, I have one too.  

Section 211, row D - $21.00

Send mail...

Scott

>Wow, lots of extras floating around.  Well, I have one too.  


Yeah Scott!  as of yesterday the box office still had seats.

bob

>Yeah Scott!  as of yesterday the box office still had seats.

Well I'm sure MY extra is better than any the box office has left, and no 
fees!!!  8^)

Scott_the_salesman ;^)

>Well I'm sure MY extra is better than any the box office has left, and no 
>fees!!!  8^)

And now it's gone!  8^)

Thanks da ve!

Scott

    thank *you* sir!  :^)

hey Scott, now that you've sold that ticket .... :)

The box office has seats in the lower sections yesterday which 
is weird because we got ours the day they went on sale and got
in the 200's.

maybe lower sections = 200's but I was thinking 100's.

ahhh well,
bob

	Its standard practice to hold back good seats and release them as the
concert gets closer to happening, right on up to the night of the show. The
reason is that they figure the folks who show up on the first day of ticket
sales are the least choosy about good seats, and the folks buying tickets 
closer to the event are more choosey.  I've gotten near front row seats
from box offices the night of the show (Centrum, Great Woods, For example). 

	It usually depends on the venue's judgement on how many tickets will
sell. If they're pretty sure all the tickets will sell out the first day of
ticket sales, they'll let the best seats go first and wont hold back any. If
they suspect the show won't sell out the first day, they'll hold back good
blocks of seats and release them as the show draws nearer as an incentive to 
folks to buy them. It makes sense from the promoter/venue perspektive: The 
diehard fans'll be the first in line and take the worse seats and be happy 
about it.

Fog, is that the "Fog" theory of ticket sales?  Or, is this indeed the real
practise?  If it is, that is lame!  I got through at 10:15 AM and I got upper
section seats ... I could not believe it!


I did get rid of my extra ...

Yes, its a theory. But so is the theory of continental drift and the theory of 
relativity. No ceegar smoking promoter in his right mind would admit to doing 
that as a matter of policy...

Fog_who_heard_the_Centrum_box_office_sold_a_mess_of_front_row_seats_this_a.m.

BTB..

	This is real common practice in NYC, too...

 I'd really like to hear Stoned Me and Night They Drove Old Dixie down tonight
and maybe Think! and Tore Up.





Jim getting psyched

    It is common for any venue to 'block' so-called 'house seats', as well
    as seats for the promoter's discretionary use.  These blocks can be
    quite large.  I know this to be the case for a couple of the local
    venues where friends of mine work.  Karin and I went to see Michael
    Hedges a while back and got grate seats (through those friends),
    seventh row center.  They were house seats, and we were the only ones
    in the row (until the second set ;-).
    
    The front row(s), center are usually blocked for the promoter.  If you 
    really get lucky, someone will no show for these.  If they're sitting at 
    will-call, the box office with sell them right off.  You really have to 
    know at what point the box office punts the will-calls and sells them,
    though.  On the other hand, if you know someone, and you can get in when 
    the show is first booked, before the promoter seats are blocked, you can 
    sometimes get them.  It helps to know the people who run the box 
    office computer :-)
    
    The promoter can release these seats at the last minute, if they want
    to.  Or, they may just be will-call no-shows of blocked promoter or
    house seats.  They certainly don't want prime seats to go empty.
    
    tim
    

Has JGB played "Like a Road" in a while?  I just recently (finally) got the
Garcia/Saunders_at_the_Keystone CDs, and love that tune ....

- Dave

    
    Some more evidence to support the Fog theoryTM of ticket shafting...
    
    Worked in my favor...
    
    Hearing that the box office had a bunch o tickets still available, and
    reading Fog's original theory, I ventured down to the Centrum at lunch.
    I bought only one ticket hoping the likelyhood of it being a good one
    would be better than buying two (and not needing two anyway).
    
    He gave me Section 3, Row G, Seat 1.  Folks, that's 7th row on the
    floor!!!!!  :^)  Win some lose some, I've lost enough in the past to
    justify this win...
    
    7TH ROW FOR MY FIRST JGB SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :^)
    
    Treemon

re:         <<< Note 151.135 by VMPIRE::CLARK "honor vets - wage peace" >>>

> Has JGB played "Like a Road" in a while?  I just recently (finally) got the

	Yup, it's still part of the rotation, at least through 1990.

	Ken

congrats treemon,

my friend did the same for his bro/girlfriend yesterday.

so we got the original straight back and his bro got the "lower section
seats"...whatever they are we gotta get em at the box.

seeya at the show./
bob

    Hey! Congratulations Treemon!  I'm incredibly jealous, mostly because
    I'm incredibly far away and can't go myself.
    
    Next time.  
    
    tim
    

They played Like A Road last night at the Centrum.



Speaking of seats, I sat in the lower section without being bothered once
during the course of the entire show.  It seems that a fair amount of good
seats were not sold, as I saw many people come and go from the area where
I was sitting.  Not many people were kicking others out....



I could see the Treemon easily from where I was sittin' ... during the
first set, you looked like you were enjoying the show!!!  I still can't
believe you got 7th row!!  Those are hot seats!!!

Was that show as good as I thought it was?  Wow.


Yeah, Like a Road...dc missed a good one.  Money Honey was real nice, Deal 
smoked..nice jammin',  C'est la vie (pardon my french)..isn't the name of
that tune "Never Can Tell"?  anyway, that was hot.  

Loved watching Jerry's face while he was playing..


Melvin Seals...not much else to say, but that guy can play.




Never had such a good time!




Jim

Ha, they played Like a Road! :^0  Waiting For a Miracle, too ... I heard it
on the way home from work last night and was thinking how much I'd like to 
hear that tune done in Providence ....

-dc

    all in all a pretty good show. I thought the first set dragged a little
    (I kept waiting for a fast or at least medium song). Second set was 
    excellent. Nice jams, nice slow stuff, very satisfying.
    
    - Dave

    
    Jerry was into the groove last night....most definitley!
    
    I love the Centrum!
    
    and I love JGB, it always seems so intimate, even with 7000 or so other
    folks. 

re:        <<< Note 151.141 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Ran smack into a tree" >>>

>C'est la vie (pardon my french)..isn't the name of that tune "Never Can Tell"?  
    
    Close, it's "You Never Can Tell" and it's my mistake for incorrectly
    transcribing the list.
    
    We had 1st row riser seats in section 124 right across the aisle
    from Rachey, Ken, JC and Andy. Great seats! Turned out that our seats 
    were duplicate seats with a couple that got there before us. Not
    counterfeits, but duplicates. So the Centrum upgraded our seats
    2 sections closer to the stage - about 11th row from the stage,
    4th row on the risers. Better seats!
    
    During the break a friend of ours came by and had 2 seats 19th row
    floor in the center that were supposed to go to another friend but
    there was a mixup. So we grabbed those seats. Absoulutely great
    seats with fantastic sound. There was a tapers nest a couple of
    rows in front of us and I knew some of them so there'll be some
    fine tapes available after the tour.
    
    Oh, the guys who the floor seats belonged to ended up buying box
    office seats in the 8th row floor (right behind treemon) just before
    the show. The Centrum security told us that Jerry had held blocks
    of seats and released them yesterday.
    
    - Gerry
    

    
    
    Indeed fine seats,  the closest I've been to Jerry ever.  Which is
    something I'd like to say a little more about.
    
    I had a wonderful experience at my first JGB show last night, and have
    a few special moments to share with you all, take it for what it's
    worth, one man's perspective:
    
    After painfully slow service at the Thai Orchid, I was forced to dump
    my cash (albeit borrowed from /) on the table and excuse myself saying
    I didn't want to miss one note of my first show.  They graciously bid
    me a good show and I headed across the street in search of the 7th row.
    
    A rather tame but warm first set was started with "How Sweet it is", I
    took it as the band's message to the audience judging from the
    expressions on the back up vocalists, and something in the way Jerry
    sung it.  The love theme continued with a beautiful They Love Each
    Other.  Seeing the Jerry band play it presents an interesting contrast
    with the Dead's rendition.  The Jerry band really follows that nice
    broken rhythm pattern after each chorus and throughout the song.
    
    I don't quite remember the exact order of the rest of the first set
    songs, but "When the Hunter gets Captured by the Game" was my first
    time hearing it, VERY interesting song.  And my first set highlight
    then played: "Dear Prudence".  I've heard this on tapes before, but
    never live.  I don't think that my imagination fooled me on this, but
    last night's version was JUST BEAUTIFUL!  The band played together, and
    brought this song to some very interesting places for me.
    
    "Money Honey", "Like a Road", and "Deal" followed to close the set (I
    probably made a few setlist errors there), but they really rocked on
    the latter half of Deal to close the set, and the lights came up. 
    Throughout the first set the music was there, but with the exception of
    Dear Prudence didn't take me anywhere too special.
    
    The SECOND set on the other hand...
    
    I don't really want to talk about the musical quality of what was being
    played because I'm not sure I can express my feelings too well in words,
    I'm having trouble just sorting them out in my head.  I'll leave it at,
    they came a long way with the music, but could've gone a lot further. 
    But the enjoyment I had was IMMENSE.  This is the part of the show that
    something really special happened to me.
    
    Being a genetic mutant has it's advantages I guess.  The way Jerry was
    facing while singing through his mike was such that he was directly
    facing me.  Since I was at least a head taller than everyone around me,
    it occurred to me that he was looking right AT me!  When I turned
    around to see the rest of the crowd to indicate what kind of light he had 
    to see me, I could plainly see that Jerry COULD most likely make out
    every detail on my face (poor Jerry).  The lighting was like you are
    driving down a major highway near dusk, and you can't see any cars in
    front of you because the sun is on the horizon, but when you turn
    around, the details of all the cars behind you are illuminated by the
    low sun.  
    
    Most of the second set (call me crazy if you want) I felt like Jerry
    was keying off of my facial expressions.  I would smile (numerous
    times), and in every case he smiled right after!  It got so linked that
    I really started to feel like Jerry was playing to ME and checking out
    my reactions to the music he was playing.  It is very difficult to
    describe much more than that, but at a couple of points in the set, I
    actually think that Jerry was affected by my expressions/body movement
    to the point where it played a role in the way he evolved the song.
    
    Again, I know it may sound far fetched, but it was VERY special to me,
    and something I'll remember and cherish for no short time.  
    
    I hope all that went had a wonderful show...  :^)
    
    Treemon
       

	Re: "C'est La Vie" or "You Neve Can Tell" - On an Emmylou Harris
	album (she does a very nice version, but then again, I'm pretty 
	partial to Emmylou) the title is listed as "C'est La Vie (You 
	Never Can Tell)".

	I thought the show was good, even very good, but not excellent.
	Definitely glad I went.

	The capacity of the Centrum is more like 13-13,500 instead of
	the 7,000 cited earlier.

	Bob

Treemon that is an awesome story!!!!  I had a similar experience at the very 
first concert I ever went to (it was the Marshall Tucker Band) and it really 
can lift your spirit up in a way that's hard to describe, but you did it well!

	>The capacity of the Centrum is more like 13-13,500 instead of
	>the 7,000 cited earlier.

Yup, and seemed to be about 2/3's or 3/4's full (very few folks behind the 
stage and way up in the upper sections) but that's just a guess.

A wonderful night!!

Scott

    >   <<< Note 151.147 by GR8FUL::WHITE "Without love in a dream..." >>>
     >                           -< Song title  >-

	>Re: "C'est La Vie" or "You Neve Can Tell" - On an Emmylou Harris
	>album (she does a very nice version, but then again, I'm pretty 
	>partial to Emmylou) the title is listed as "C'est La Vie (You 
	>Never Can Tell)".
    
    If it's the Chuck Berry song, the CD lists it as "C'est La Vie."  It's
    on "St. Louis to Liverpool," which also has "Promised Land" on it. 
    Does it start out "They had a teenage wedding and the old folks wished
    'em well/You could see that Pierre did truly love the Mademoiselle"?
    
    My favorite line goes something like "They had a Hi-Fi phono, man did
    they let it blast/Ten thousand little records, all rock, rhythm, and
    jazz."  Great album.
    
    Jamie

good time at the show!

highlights for me - jerry's jam in dear pru.
		    shining star
		    make it to the promised land
		    and a couple others...
		    melvin's keys

I stand corrected on the name of the Chuck Berry tune..

I loved the first set, the only place it dragged for me was during "When the
hunter, etc"..other than that loved it..2nd set was great.



Can't wait for Providence!

    C'est La Vie, literally translated, means "That's the little sh*t
    for ya"
    
    - Dave

    Real cool last night, meeting up with you folks (you know who you are)
    and partying with the JGB.  One definite enjoyable time.  What else can
    I say?

    Don

Great performance, great sound.  I love the Centrum.  Almost all the songs were
firsts for me (but being my 3rd show that's understandable).  Highlights for me
were Dear Prudence and The Way You Do The Things You Do.  I have a question
about Shining Star.  Shortly after the song started, I recognized it as a
Motown-type love song that I'd heard a lot on the radio as a kid (70's).  I
thought it was by a female vocal group, but I couldn't place it.  After the
show, I was told it was a Four Tops tune.  Was it re-done by anyone in the
70's?  Is this a tune they play often?  I don't recall seeing it on set lists.

Looking forward to Hartford and Providence!

adam

RE: Shining Star

You mean it wasn't the Madonna tune??  %^}

RE: Shining Star

yeah,  I remember that song too.  Dunno if it's the same but I think
Earth, Wind and Fire did a "Shining Star"....

re:  Madonna - 

Yeah Glenn that was it!  That explains why Jerry donned the bullet bra!
:)

bob

ps.  and what was the deal with the "smoke" being output from just behind
the soundboard....??  a giant ionizer?  an air freshener?  a giant incense
burner?  or or or ?  anybody know?

    EWF's Shining Star was sorta like this:

	Shining star for you to see,
	What your life can truly be

    Wasn't Madonna's tune Lucky Star?
    
    The tune that Jerry did last night was done by a disco band in the
    '79-'81 time frame.  I know 'cause it was one of my favorite tunes
    that was covered by the local Holiday Inn house band back then.  Hey,
    cut me some slack, where else could a single guy go in Brattleboro, VT?

    
    Smoke....from...BEHIND THE SOUNDBOARD...MMMMMMMMMM
    
    wasn't me

    re: smoke machine
    
    Prob'ly to introduce particles in the air for the lighting
    to reflect off of.

    >        <<< Note 151.149 by STUDIO::IDE "now it can be told" >>>

    >>   <<< Note 151.147 by GR8FUL::WHITE "Without love in a dream..." >>>
    > >                           -< Song title  >-

	>>Re: "C'est La Vie" or "You Neve Can Tell" - On an Emmylou Harris
	>>album (she does a very nice version, but then again, I'm pretty 
	>>partial to Emmylou) the title is listed as "C'est La Vie (You 
	>>Never Can Tell)".
    
    >If it's the Chuck Berry song, the CD lists it as "C'est La Vie."  It's
    >on "St. Louis to Liverpool," which also has "Promised Land" on it. 
    >Does it start out "They had a teenage wedding and the old folks wished
    >'em well/You could see that Pierre did truly love the Mademoiselle"?
   
    I stand corrected . . . and embarrassed.  The right title is "You Never
    Can Tell."  I dunno how I got it mixed up.
    
    Jamie 
    

RE:            <<< Note 151.160 by STUDIO::IDE "now it can be told" >>>
                    -< er, make that "You Never Can Tell" >-

      
   > I stand corrected . . . and embarrassed.  The right title is "You Never
   > Can Tell."  I dunno how I got it mixed up.
    
    
     So, does that mean I can now sit, uncorrected? :^)


    

   Jim who loves the Chuck Berry version cuz his dad *loved* the honky tonk
   Piano work in it and Chuck sang "the old folks wooshed 'em well"



    

	Ok, here comes Mr. Rotten!

	:-|

	I thought the JGB show at the Centrum was mediocre at best.  In
comparision to the show I saw two years ago at Great Woods, it just seemed 
to lack the punch the G.W. show had.  Perhaps this is due to the absence
of a brass instrument (Clearence Clemens, of E Street Band fame, played
with JGB at G.W.).  There just seemed to be a big hole in the music with
Jerry left there to do nearly all of the work.  I'm surprised that Jerry 
didn't give Kahn a solo.

	There were quite a few highlights for me.  Shining Star really, really
cooked.  Jerry drive this song just about as far as one can go.  He really
had the groove and control throughout.  C'est La Vie (or whatever ya'll 
wanna call this one) was very good also.  

	The sound in the Centrum was outstanding.  I really felt that I hadn't
seen a concert for ages before JGB, when in reality, I saw 4 Dead shows 2
months previous.  It boiled down to me not being in the Centrum for a long
while!

	From my vantage point, I easily spotted Treemon, who was swaying and
enjoying the show!  Good talking to Gerry G, Ken H, Rachel, Andy N (briefly),
and Treemon...

	JC

    
    	I was wondering if Bruce Hornsby was with the JGB at the
    Centrum. My wife is taknig a one day class in Philly today, 
    and yesteday, on her flgith down to Philly form Logan, at 3:10,
    she bumped into Bruce on the plane.....
    
    	So we were both wondering, was he?
    
    

    No Hornsby.

    the Globe today mentioned Hornsby was in town for a couple of different
    reasons (help with a class and something about tracks for a ?classical
    album odf someone's). Mentioned he played with Jerry in NC as it's near
    Bruce's home
    
    jeff

    re Mr Rotten,..
    
    	Hi JC
    
    	The show was a "light hearted" show to quote a good friend of mine,
    both of use veterans of Jerry shows for about 13 years now. We've
    definitely seen the JGB "hotter" than they were,. but not sweeter.
    The song selection may have had a lot to do with this,.. I mean
    there was no real Blues played,.. no real nitty gritty stuff ..
    and no real heavy stuff (like say a Mission). Ths one exception
    was probably Dear Prudence,.. which coincidentaly was the highlight
    for me. 
    
    	So,. I kind of agree with you,.. but remembering a lesson that da
    ve taught me about the Tuesday Garden show,.. I did enjoy it. There
    was a little less of the "wowing" of the crowd that Jerry usually does
    with his guitar work,. and for me thats a disappointment,.. but you've
    got to take whats there and relate to it. Shining Star would normally
    make me think "Oh,. how sappy can you get?",.. but when Jerry does it
    with those backup vocals,. they just put so much heart into it,.. you
    gotta like it! :-) Well,.. at least I did.
    
    	Hunter was a real surprise,.. even to the band from the counds of
    it :-/. I liked hearing this rarity even if it was a bit rough,.. OK 
    a lot rough... Midnight Moonlight was nicely played I thought. And the
    way you do the things you do was like super funky slow,.. almost like
    it was going backwards,.. I liked it for the way they interpreted it,
    even if I would interpret it totally different. Hell,.. thats what
    makes it interesting.
    
    	I think I'll head down to Providence tomorrow for hopes of catching
    a Hotter nittier grittier type of Jerry,.. hopefully hitting us
    with Thats what love will make you do,.. Don't Let Go,..Think,.. etc
    (you get the idear dontcha..?)
    
    									/
    

    awwww,  shux slash!  :^)  i didn't teach you that...  you already knew 
    it!  you were just so hot to have Jerry blow you away that night that
    you needed to have someone remind you that there's more to it than 
    that...  :^)  :^)  :^)
    
    					da ve_who_thought_Jerry_played_it
    					sweetly_too :^)

    :-)
    
    Yah,.. may be I knew that already,.. but you made me "apply"
    the knowledge...
    
    and by the way,.. thanks
    
    						/
    

	A couple of notes have commented on how good they thought the 
	sound at Centrum was for the Jerry show.

	For where I was sitting (section 103, straight back from Melvin)
	the sound was fair to acceptable.  I could always hear Jerry's
	guitar fine, and his voice OK, but the entire rhythm section was
	an indistinguishable muddy blur.  It did get better as the first
	set went on, but at no time would I describe the sound as "very
	good" let alone "excellent".

	Bob

    WOWOW  !!!! I'm listening to WBCN right now and they aren't playing DEAL
    or TOG or Casey Jones....they are playing "The Way You Do The Thing You
    Do" :')

Welp, before the Worcester show I asked if JGB had done "Like a Road" in a
while, and they played it at the show!

So ... is "Someday Baby" still in rotation?  ;^)  Another favorite of mine.

- sikikDave

    Anybody got the set list from Hartford last night?
    
    Did they play any other shows between Wrocester and now besides
    Hartford? If so,.. anyone got those set lists?
    
    I'm trying to make my mind up about doing Providence tomorrow. The
    set lists would help.
    
    Thanks
    
    							/Bill
    

    Didn't he play in Al bany and MSG over the weekend as well as
    Hahtfid....??
    
    rich who will miss them all due to $$$ crunch and ski equipment to
    buy...
    

 Yep, MSG Friday, Albany Sat and Hahtfid Sun...I have Friday's set list at
home..my brother went, was a nice show..Lay Down Sally, Lucky Old Sun, How
Sweet, The way you do, etc...and Wonderful World for an encore.



can't remember the rest.



Jim

    
    I went to the show in Albany Saturday.  I thought the show
    was really good.  Only my 2nd JGB show though.. 1st was at
    Gratewoods.  Highlights for me were Sister & Brothers,
    Let's spend the night together, Breadbox, Shining Star,
    and of course Lay Down Sally.  the keyboard was hot in this!
    And it was pretty entertaining when Jerry stripped the strings
    off his guitar and asked the crowd to "talk amongst yourselves"
    (or whatever it is you do) I believe was his second comment...?
    
    No encore though, which was a drag.  
    
    There was a lot of vending going on, first time I've been to 
    Albany that it didn't rain or snow!  
    
    It'll be too bad if the Dead don't play Albany this spring,
    I think it's a good place to go for a show or 2 or 3.....
    but unfortunately I don't think it's going to happen.
    
    MJ
    

re the sound

In Hartford, I thought the sound was pretty bad.  The first 3 songs were 
terribly muddled, including the guitar and vocals.  They took a short break due
to technical difficulties and it sounded a little better, but for the most part
the sound wasn't very good.  It seemed to me that the sound system was really
big enough for the size of the venues.  Does everyone think that was the case
or was it just poor sound adjustments?

chuck

re: Someday Baby

Rare these days.  I don't think it was played for years, but it was
brought back temporarily - saw it only once or twice on setlists for 
the past year or so.

I'd like to see Mystery Train brought back.

Ken

    Yah,...
    
    	Another vote for Mystery Train here!
    
    	Is this the "what shoudl the JGB band bring back into rotation"
    note? If so,.. I'd like to see more of:
    
    		Rhapsody in Red
    		I'll Take  a Melody
    
    
    	Are either of those "still in the ortation"
    
    	While we're opn the subject,. those set lists (thanks GerG)
    seem to line up pretty good for a hot show tonight. (At least I'm
    	hoping),..
    
    	so anynbody got any extras for Providence tonight?
    
    	DTN 381-0546
    
    	Thanks
    
    							/
    
    PS I just found out what "slash" means in UK slang,.. and,. well..
    	I won't say,.. but its no wonder I always p*ss a bunch of people
    	off :-0
    

 'Nother one that hasn't been done for a while I'd like to hear..Catfish John!

  Love that tune, but I'm not holding my breath.  Didn't see it in any 90
  setlists..





 Jim

re: sound

At Worcester and Hartford, Kahn's bass was quite muddy.  I could barely hear
it, and the upper bass frequencies, which I like to hear, were not there.

At Hartford, for the first few songs, Jerry's vocals were practically
inaudible.

Hopefully, Providence will be better.  Overall, I have no major gripes about
the sound.  Overall, it's good.  Jerry's guitar, Seals' organ, the backup
singers, and the drums are all mixed in nicely.

I only have 1 Jerry tape (from '80), and on it are, among others, Catfish John,
Simple Twist of Fate, That's Alright Mama, Sugaree, and Puttin Up Resistance. 
I'd like to hear any of these.   Hopefully they'll do a Cats tonight!  Or
Another Lay Down Sally (maybe they'll make it all the way through w/o equip
problems!)

adam

    >> I only have 1 Jerry tape (from '80), 
    
    Then you should talk to me about fixin' you up a coupla more ... I have
    a JGB tape from earlier this year at the Warfield, and another from '79
    (with Merle, Kahn and what sounds like the horns from Tower of Power)
    at the Cotati Cabaret that should be in every Deadhead's tape
    collection.  Of course, I also have some others, but these two are my
    favorites fer shur.
    
    ... Bob
    

	re: I'll Take a Melody

	Still played but only once in a while (which is not enuf ;-)

	re: Catfish John

	YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  GREAT tune!  Wish it could be brought back!

	re: Putting Up Resistance

	Is actually called "Sitting In Limbo" by Jimmy Cliff (I think)

	Ken 

         <<< Note 151.182 by FURTHR::HANNAN "Beyond description..." >>>

>	re: Putting Up Resistance
>	Is actually called "Sitting In Limbo" by Jimmy Cliff (I think)


hey Ken,  could this possibly be by the Neville's?  I know they do it
(Fire on the Bayou) but don't know who wrote it...always thought they 
did but dunno.

nice tune though!
bob

re:          <<< Note 151.183 by LANDO::HAPGOOD "now we play for life" >>>

> Sitting In Limbo
>
> hey Ken,  could this possibly be by the Neville's?  I know they do it

I'm pretty sure I read it was by Jimmy Cliff, possibly off some old jerry
album (remember those ?  :-)   But I'm not 100% positive and only have
deadbase II with me here at the office ;-)

How long have the Neville's been around ?  Maybe that could answer it.
The earliest that DBII has jgb doing Limbo was in late '74.   The Neville's 
haven't been around *that* long have they ?

Ken

    
    I have a Jimmy Cliff album with this song on it.....early 70's.
    
    Dave

    
    Also on the soundtrack of "The Harder They Come". Jimmy Cliff, Toots
    and the Maytals...
    
    -eric
    

    The Neville's have been around for ages - most of them were in the
    Meters and they must go back at least 20 years.
    
    Scott
    

    The Nevilles do do this song..maybe its on the Fiyou on the Bayou Sp
    album..but they do do this song.
    
    rich

    
    I'm pretty positive Sittin' in Limbo is a Jimmy Cliff song.
    
    *******
    
    I caught the MSG and Albany JGB shows this weekend.  There were
    definately high points in both, but I have to say that I think this
    whole JGB tour is pretty low-energy and a little disappointing. 
    Everything was so slooooooow.  I mean, I don't know.. but when I hear a
    Don't Let Go, I want to hear a high-energy, bluesy, jamming version. 
    Friday night's was just way too spacey for me.. no kick.  I thought the
    song selection in Albany was much better.  More of a mix of fast and
    slow.. but even there, the faster songs were played slower than normal. 
    Tangled Up in Blue was closer to a Dylan tempo than a JGB one!  Okay -
    maybe that's a little exaggerated, but I kept trying to sing along and
    I was going much faster than Jerry.  There were high points though! 
    Lay Down Sally was grate!, especially in Albany.  And I love Shining
    Star.. 70s am radio at it's best. ;-)  I heard a lot of songs for the
    first time (and then the second time :-)) which is always cool.
    
    But, even though the shows were just okay, we had fun!  Albany was
    grate as always, although it was freeeeezing! brrrrr!  Was a good
    excuse to buy new tie-dye socks in the lot though.. gotta keep those
    toes warm! :-)  And the best part of the road trip was the *beautiful*
    rainbow we saw on the ride up!  It was crystal clear.. you could see
    every color perfectly.  We were a mile from a rest stop when we saw 
    it, so we were able to pull off and watch for a while.  We got to see 
    the light travel from side to side.. first the left end was bright and 
    then the arch lit up and then down the right before it faded away. 
    All the cars on the highway were beeping at each other and pointing so
    noone would miss it. :-)
    
    ..and I say to myself.. what a wonderful world..
    
    :-)
    
    
    

Adam,


You don't know what you're missin' by not having JGB tapes!!  I have some very
nice JGB tapes from '74 that are very jazzy, as well as many other JGB tapes
from the 80s and 90s.  

I have a very nice acoustic one from '82 -- Jerry and Kahn in Alaska!  The
crowd is amazingly quiet which makes the recording very nice...

JC, the JGB mon

	Phyllis, I think we're just seeing a different phase of JGB
	right now which is trending towards mellower stuff, intricate
	jams, and different material. 

	At Worcester, the only show I could get to :-/, Deal never took
	off for example - compare it to the 89 tour deals which *smoked*.
	But something like "That's What Love Will Make You Do" was just
	so nice at the centrum - it was played very slowly and got into
	such a cool rhythm and flow, and really streched out - much like 
	the style of jerry's handling of Lay Down Sally.   It's got sort
	of a laid back reggae style I'd say.   I love it!

	This band is MUCH different from the '89 version with Clarence,
	and I prefer it.

	I missed Don't Let Go (damn!) but *hopefully* some good tapes will
	surface someday so I can make my own judgement.

	Another tune I'd like to see JGB bring back: After Midnight

	Ken

    
    Yeah, Ken, I know what you're saying and it definately seemed like a
    new phase.  I think my expectations were just for something completely
    different than what I got and so I was disappointed.  At the time, I 
    really thought Albany was a lot hotter, but a few days later now, I'm 
    not so sure if it just wasn't that I knew what we'd get there.
    
    I love intricate spacey jams at my dead shows, but it's not necessarily
    what I'm looking for at a JGB show.  I like my JGB with more of a blues
    edge than a jazz edge I guess.  But I'll take it this way too! :-)
    
    

    Digressing back to the Nevilles a bit, I was listening to the radio
    last night and heard Casey Kasem's day in rock or whatever it's called.
    Aaron Neville's big hit was "Tell It Like It Is" in 1967, so he's been
    around for a while.
    
    Scott
    

                       <<< Note 151.193 by BCSE::ABBOT >>>
>    Aaron Neville's big hit was "Tell It Like It Is" in 1967, so he's been
>    around for a while.
    
Yeah Scott,  what you said about the Meter's.  They actually predate this
from late 50's (ahem...I think!) and early 60's.  

bob

    re Ken
    
    	Ken,,..unless my gray matter is completely discombobulated,
    they didn't do a "Thats what Love will Make you do" in Worcester...
    
    re Phyllis
    
    	Ya know,.. you gotta watch those expectations. (right da ve?)
    But FWIW, I think you are right. Jerry has mellowed. Lets face it
    folks, he is getting older. It used to be that you could go to four
    shows,.. catch three HOT ones,.. and one mellow one. Now you go to
    four shows,. you catch three mellow ones,. and one hot one. For
    example,. last night in Providence was HOT. Excellent guitar playing.
    He still didn't reach the highs of the Jerry of days gone by, but
    it was a beautiful show anyway. Blew doors on Wrocester,. and from what
    I hear, Worcester was better than Hartford.
    
    	I also agree completely about the pace of Don't Let Go. He
    slowed it down a little compared to the 89 tour,.. and I liked
    it better when it had a little more pace on it. Jerry seems to be
    breaking new ground in terms of playing slow songs these days.
    There are times I feel like he's going backwards,.. like during a
    Senor,.. but sometimes he really cranks out a nice sweet lead over
    a slow groove. You gotta kind of not let that bum you out whne you hear
    it,,.and see where he goes with it. Trouble is most of the time most
    of the people are already so bored by the time that he gets to his
    solo that they're all talking or whatever and they miss the good part
    of those tunes. Like a Road can be like that. Anyway,.. the slow songs
    don't bother me at all when the two bacup vocalists get a chance
    to sing on them. Those women can really belt it out. That is one
    "segment" or piece of the whole show that has improved since last
    time I would say. They seem really comfortable with Jerry now, and
    he seems to be spotlighting them. I think thats why they do some of
    the slower tunes,.. to give the singers a chance to shine.. and IMHO
    those are some of the best vocals I've heard.
    
    	Anyway././ Providecnce was great. There was some slow stuff,.. but
    just about everythying was played excellent. Don't Let Go,.. I could
    say it was a nice jam,.. but more accurately,. it was like 3 or 4
    nice jams,. if ya catch my drift. The deal did get going. Thats what
    Love was a bit low on energy,.. but still a welcome "blues" number.
    Senor was so slow,, it went backwards,.. but the guitar riff soared!
    Lay Down Sally was my first time live,. really neat. I don't have any
    other versions to compare it to but I thought it was really coooool.
    The Tore up had a weird groove on it,.. I'm not sure I liked it as much
    as the old way they did it.../ actually,. I'm not sure they intended
    	for it to be so "different" ,. I think it just kind of came out
    that way?,,,... all in all ,. a very good show.. Jerry was on.
    
    								/
    

    consider yerselves lucky you get to see so many Garcia shows
    
    rfb_garcialess in Colo.

    Getting older is only part of it IMHO ...not catching any of the shows
    it is tough for me to comment but based on the new album etc I would
    say he is exploring new territory (jazz vs blues/r&r) and that
    is why he enjoys playing with this band or would like to play with
    Branford,Wasserman,and Hornsby..yep I would agree he is getting towards
    the jazz side of things but those roots have always been there. 
    Whereas with the Dead hes stuck or they are stuck in a rut that needs
    to change to make it more fun.  Remember besides deep roots into 
    blue grass some country western and blues he has always expressed
    interest into Coltrain,Parker etc and Django Reinhardt..I feel these
    guys are having a big influence on him now....the bottom line is that
    the music is still beautiful and he has more fun with exploration than
    the same old thing.
    
    rich

    Yes,.. those roots are there Rich,. adn DEbess,. and Phyllis,..
    
    and he even said that those were the people he's been interested
    ion and listening to lately Rich,....
    
    	BUT
    
    I don't see it as getting any jazzier than its been. I think hes
    dropped some of the rockier rollier numbers yes,.. and has even
    relegated the blues to only one or two appearances per show.
    
    If I had to pick a category for the "new" direction,.. it would
    be Gospel,. not jazz. He was much jazzier in 77-80 than he is
    now. Although ther is nothing he ever played that is more jazzy than
    the one of the several grooves he gets into during Don't Let Go.
    That song can turn into pure jazz,.. but thats only one tune. The
    other songs hes added and or is doing more of don't have a jazz
    feeling. Some are just plain onle sappy love songs (Shining Star)
    and others are souylful ballads (Senor, Twist of Fate),.. but
    there isn;t much "new" jazz in the mix. Mostly,. its the "feel" of the
    tunes I'm thinking of when I say gospel,... of course, ahving Melvn
    who produces something like 75% of the West Coast gospel recordings and
    ythe two backup vocalists who seem like they just came out of a revival
    meeting has a lot to do with it.
    
    	Just another /opinion
    
    								/
    

>    re Ken
>
>        Ken,,..unless my gray matter is completely discombobulated,
>    they didn't do a "Thats what Love will Make you do" in Worcester...

	My mistake - I meant to say "The Way You Do The Things You Do".
	I always get those two songs mixed up!   TWYDTTYD was the 
	highlight of the Woosta show for me, as well as "When the Hunter
	Gets Captured By The Game" (I felt priveleged to hear such a rare
	jerry tune ;-) and Dear Prudence(!).

	Ken

    Funny, it sounds like the same things everyone was saying two years
    ago. Each successive night being better. I didn't see any of the shows
    so I can't say what I think. However, Tull last Saturday was great, and
    Ian was in great shape (physically and voice-wise) considering the tour
    was almost called off.
    
    Maybe Jerry's mellowness is from his desire to take a rest. He's gotta
    be one of the busiest guys in the music business. There's probably a
    lot more that he'd like to do but he's bound to do things for others
    (i.e. feel obligated to support the Dead family, tour, etc.). It's been
    a long time with the current JGB format. In the 70's it was always
    something different, Legion of Mary, Reconstruction, Old & In The Way,
    Garcia & Saunders. Maybe he's itching to try something new.
    
    Scott
    

    you know, i was thinking that today too...  Jerry sez "i need to 
    RELAX!!"  but he likes to play too much to take time off, so now
    he's RELAXing in a more public forum...  :^)  
    
    don't know if the theory amounts to much but it works for me... :^)
    
    				da ve

>    you know, i was thinking that today too...  Jerry sez "i need to 
>    RELAX!!"  but he likes to play too much to take time off, so now
>    he's RELAXing in a more public forum...  :^)  
    

	I too have been thinking along similar lines.   Jerry's like
	the "frontman" for the dead, out front, dealing with major
	expectations, under a microscope.  But with jgb he can lay back a 
	little bit and be more of an [semi-]equal participant in the
	band.

	Ken

Here's my (albeit digressive) theory...

	As I've seen in show reviews over the years, I come to notice that west
coast Dead fans are in general more forgiving and demanding of high energy, top
notch performance than are East coast fans, and that maybe that explains why
the Dead (and JGB) prefer West coast Venues. Maybe its that East coast fans 
simply prefer more high energy shows; I know I do.

Just_an_observationP

     I was also thinking that maybe Jerry enjoys his band because
    it's easier "technically", he has some pedals and effects but
    it's nothing like all the effects and MIDI stuff he has with the
    Dead, he doesn't have as much to worry about. He can kick back and
    just play guitar and is not expected to be so experimental, like
    making his guitar sound like a flute, sax, trumpet, etc, not to
    mention all the spacey stuff.
     Maybe playing with Grisman too lets him get back to basics.
    
    just a thought
    Sean

    I think that the music with JGB is not as complex and does not have 
    the "density" that the Dead enjoy..which in turn makes it easier...
    thus his way of relaxing....I still think he needs a hiatus.
    
    rich

    From Eric Simon, statmeister...
    
      Songs in order of frequency:
      There are  45 different songs:
      ----- --- ---- --------- -----
   
      Song Name             Total    First      Last     Set I   Set II  Encore
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Ain't No Bread In Th  [  14]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      3     11      0
      Waiting For A Miracl  [  13]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      1     12      0
      Shining Star          [  12]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      0     12      0
      My Sisters & Brother  [  10]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      8      2      0
      Deal                  [  10]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91     10      0      0
      How Sweet It Is       [   8]  11/ 7/91  11/24/91      8      0      0
      Lay Down Sally        [   8]  11/ 7/91  11/24/91      6      2      0
      Run For The Roses     [   7]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      7      0      0
      The Way You Do The T  [   7]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      0      7      0
      What A Wonderful Wor  [   7]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      0      0      7
      Stop That Train       [   6]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      6      0      0
      You Never Can tell    [   6]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      5      1      0
      Money Honey           [   6]  11/ 6/91  11/23/91      4      2      0
      Don't Let Go          [   6]  11/ 6/91  11/24/91      0      6      0
      He Ain't Give You No  [   6]  11/ 9/91  11/22/91      5      1      0
      Midnight Moonlight    [   6]  11/ 9/91  11/24/91      0      6      0
      Cats Under The Stars  [   5]  11/ 6/91  11/23/91      5      0      0
      Strugglin' Man        [   5]  11/ 6/91  11/22/91      3      2      0
      And It Stoned Me      [   5]  11/ 7/91  11/24/91      4      1      0
      Bright Side Of The R  [   5]  11/ 7/91  11/23/91      0      5      0
      Forever Young         [   4]  11/ 7/91  11/22/91      4      0      0
      Reuben & Cerise       [   4]  11/ 7/91  11/23/91      2      2      0
      Like A Road           [   4]  11/ 7/91  11/20/91      3      1      0
      Tangled Up In Blue    [   4]  11/ 7/91  11/23/91      0      4      0
      The Night They Drove  [   4]  11/ 9/91  11/23/91      3      1      0
      Lucky Old Sun         [   4]  11/10/91  11/23/91      0      4      0
      Simple Twist Of Fate  [   3]  11/ 6/91  11/20/91      3      0      0
      Everybody Needs Some  [   3]  11/ 6/91  11/22/91      1      2      0
      They Love Each Other  [   3]  11/ 7/91  11/23/91      3      0      0
      Let's Spend The Nigh  [   3]  11/ 7/91  11/16/91      2      1      0
      Tore Up Over You      [   3]  11/ 7/91  11/19/91      0      3      0
      Think                 [   3]  11/ 9/91  11/23/91      0      3      0
      Let It Rock           [   2]  11/ 7/91  11/17/91      2      0      0
      I Second That Emotio  [   2]  11/ 9/91  11/17/91      2      0      0
      I Shall Be Released   [   2]  11/ 9/91  11/17/91      0      2      0
      Dear Prudence         [   2]  11/13/91  11/19/91      2      0      0
      Senor (Tales Of Yank  [   2]  11/13/91  11/19/91      2      0      0
      Get Out Of My Life W  [   1]  11/10/91  11/10/91      1      0      0
      Mission In The Rain   [   1]  11/10/91  11/10/91      1      0      0
      Lazy Bones            [   1]  11/10/91  11/10/91      1      0      0
      Russian Lullaby       [   1]  11/10/91  11/10/91      0      1      0
      Knockin' On Heaven's  [   1]  11/12/91  11/12/91      0      1      0
      Evangeline            [   1]  11/12/91  11/12/91      0      1      0
      When The Hunter Gets  [   1]  11/13/91  11/13/91      1      0      0
      That's What Love Wil  [   1]  11/19/91  11/19/91      1      0      0

    HEY HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE JERRY BAND PLAYING IN MAINE 
    SOMETIME THIS FALL? I HEARD ABOUT A POSSIBLE NOVEMBER DATE BUT IT WAS
    UNCONFIRMED. IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PASS IT ON.

    We heard a rumor last night that JGB was going to play Portland,
    Albany, Hartford, MSG, and a new arena in Amherst, MA sometime this
    fall. No firm dates yet, and these are only rumors, FWTW...

    Jeff,
    
    	I just read the RS interview and Jerry states that he will be doing
    a northeast run with the JGB, Im sure no dates have been announced as of
    yet. but I will make you a member of GRATEFUL and Im sure when news of
    show dates are announced you will be notified by email as when and
    where (unless you are a member already :'))
    
    Chris
    
    ps: please use lowercase letters when writing in notes its a little
    easier on the eyes, also writing in CAPS is looked at as SHOUTING ! :')

    
    the dates should be in November.
    
    

    	Thanks for the information about JGB dates. The source I heard it
    from is rather unreliable but in this case he seems to be right. Just
    the fact that Jerry is even thinking about playing in Maine is good
    news. Personally I'm getting tired of having to travel six hours to see
    the Dead and maybe with Jerry coming that means that eventually the
    rest of the gang will follow.  
                                         Jeff
    	 P.S. Sorry about the capital letters, I didn't mean to yell.   
                                

    
    I can't remember whether I've seen this in here yet or whether I typed
    it in myself already (it's been a long month ;-/) so here it is:
    
    Garcia band
    
    Oct. 31st at Brendan Byrne
    Nov. 1st at Nassau
    Nov. 12th at MSG
    
    tickets on sale October 2nd 
    
    I haven't seen info on any other dates although I'm sure it'll be out
    soon.
    
    

    
REGARDING                JGB Dates on Hotline
Show date	    Venue	                       On Sale Date
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct. 5-7	    Warfield Th., San Francisco	   Tiks on sale now

Oct. 31       	Meadowlands          	Oct. 2

Nov. 1        	Nassau Coliseum	     Oct. 2

Nov. 3        	Knickerbocker Arena	 Oct. 2

Nov. 4        	Rochester War Memorial	  Oct. 2

Nov. 5       	Buffalo Memorial Auditorium	 Oct. 2

Nov. 7         US Air Arena (Cap Center)	     Oct. 1

Nov. 8	        New Haven Coliseum	          Oct. 2

Nov. 9	        Cumberland Cty. Civic         	Oct. 9
	                  Center, Portland, Maine

Nov. 11	      Providence Civic Ctr., RI	      Oct. 9

Nov. 12	       Madison Sq. Garden	            Oct. 2

Nov. 14	       ?? recording garbled!!!	       Oct. 2
	                  Somewhere in NY

Nov. 15           Centrum, Worcester, MA      	Oct. 2

Nov. 16	          Spectrum, Philadelphia	     Oct. 16

Nov. 18	          Richmond Col., Richmond, VA	   Oct. 16

Nov. 19	           Hampton Col., Hampton, VA	    Oct. 15

    
REGARDING                Addendum: JGB tickets--East Coast
I forgot to mention that the tickets are through TicketBastard.

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Nice to see Jerry playing all the small places the dead can't play.

bob

    bob,
    
    the new haven coliseum is an "intimate" setting for ~8K (and it's the
    smallest venue on the list). i can't believe he or anyone from the Dead
    would go near the meadowlands again.

    
    really bob, all the places the Dead played in the early 80's..made
    for a nice east cost tour..lot of stops without much travlin'

    
    The arena for Nov 14 is The On-Center in Syracuse,NY. A relatively new
    place about the size of the Centrum in Worcester,MA.
    
    
    							-jeff

    
    .217
    
    looks like you'll be there jeff..hometown!
    

I know I know! :)

I was just being sarcastic.   Was it that long ago that Jerry could
play the Orpheum in Boston?  New haven New shamven!  I ain't goin' 
down there.  :)  

The CCCC is nice if gen admin.  Prov is nice.  

Here's some more sarcasm.  Pretty soon Bob Weir will pack the likes of
the Centrum as well (well ain't that a stretch!).  JGB will be playing 
Stadium gigs and the Dead will be doomed to play the Moon because we all 
won't be able to afford a shuttle ticket. 

haha!  
bob

    these showz coming in Nov., are they on sale at Ticketmaster or
    Ticketpro?  Also, would they be doing a wristband thing or no?
    
    Also, what is the Umass date and did tix already go on sale for that?
    
    thanx,Andy

to .213 (Phyllis):
  I'm not sure exactly who/what "TicketBastard" might be and how I would go
  about obtaining tix to JGB conerts (esp. Portland and Worcester) from them
  or anyone else.  Does JGB not do a mail-order thing like the Dead?
  Details would be appreciated.

       thanks,
       Craig

re:                       <<< Note 151.221 by NOVA::ZASTERA >>>
>                           -< how do I get JGB tix? >-

"TicketBastard" == Ticketmaster (the bastards! ;-)

> how I would go about obtaining tix to JGB conerts 
> (esp. Portland and Worcester) 

Either go to a Ticketbastard ticket outlet on the on-sale date, or go to
the venue itself (to avoid ridiculous Ticketbastard charges).  I guess the 
only way to know if they do wristbands is to call each venue.  If they do
wristbands, count on 1 less person being there trying to get tix (me).

> Does JGB not do a mail-order thing like the Dead?

Unfortunately no.

Hope this helps,
Ken

    I'm looking for that posting of the JGB dates in November, mostly to
    try to confirm what I read yesterday, - it seemed like the November 15
    Worcester Centrum show tix go on sale this Saturday, 10/2.  Did I
    misunderstand this posting?
    
    Just want to be prepared...
    
    tim
    

re:   <<< Note 151.223 by NAC::TRAMP::GRADY "Short arms, and deep pockets..." >>>
>                         -< JGB@Centrum on sale 10/2? >-

Yes - JGB tix on sale at 10 am at TicketBastard on sat 10/2, at least
I'm 99% sure, which is pretty good considering *-)

Ken

re: tix on sale Sat at 10am...

Billy Joel is doing a 5th show in Worcester, tickets for that one ALSO go
on sale Sat at 10am... ...getting phone calls through will be a nightmare.

:-|

    
    New on sale dates for JGB from hotline (new message 9/30)
    (* - denotes new or changed information)
    
    
    REGARDING                JGB Dates on Hotline
    Show date           Venue                              On Sale Date
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Oct. 5-7            	Warfield Th., San Francisco    Tiks on sale
    
    Oct. 31         	Meadowlands             	       *10/2 noon
    
    Nov. 1          	Nassau Coliseum      			*10/2 noon
    
    Nov. 3          	Knickerbocker Arena      		Oct. 2
    	
    Nov. 4          	Rochester War Memorial    		Oct. 2
    
    Nov. 5         	Buffalo Memorial Auditorium     	Oct. 2
                                                   (*Prime Seats locations)
    
    Nov. 7         	US Air Arena (Cap Center)       	Oct. 1
    
    Nov. 8          	New Haven Coliseum             		*TBA
    
    Nov. 9          	Cumberland Cty. Civic                   *Oct. 8
                              Center, Portland, Maine
    
    Nov. 11       	Providence Civic Ctr., RI       	Oct. 9
    
    Nov. 12        	Madison Sq. Garden             		*10/2 noon
    
    Nov. 14        	Syracuse,NY        	       		*Oct. 1
          
    
    Nov. 15           	Centrum, Worcester, MA        		*10/9 
    
    Nov. 16           	Spectrum, Philadelphia          	Oct. 16
    
    Nov. 18           	Richmond Col., Richmond, VA     	Oct. 16
    
    Nov. 19            	Hampton Col., Hampton, VA       	*10/22
                                                                          
    
    

    Whats the story on Jer tickets for the centrum, apparently tickets are
    not on sale this Saturday. Got my Portland Tix today, and the lady said
    that she knew nothing about tickets going on sale this saturday. I
    think she's gonna be real happy when they do, so we both can stop going
    through the same routine. Also called up the Centrum and they had no
    word yet as well. If someone has any info please Email or post a reply
    
    FlexAble

    
    just called the hotline => New message as of 10/5
    
    Worcester Centrum JGB tix now go on sale October 16.
    
    								-jeff

Date:	 8-OCT-1993 12:49:33.71
From:	TECRUS::CRL::"randys@sun1.wwb.noaa.gov" "Randy Schechter  08-Oct-1993 1250"
Subj:	JGB at Providence
To:	Boston-Music@virginia.edu

Tickets for the Jerry Garcia Band concert at the Providence Civic Center
supposedly go on sale tomorrow (Saturday Oct 9th) at 10 AM. They are NOT
available from Ticketmaster, but rather from TicketPro (the same folks
who handled the Boston Garden Dead shows). The number to charge tickets is:

   1-800-828-7080


                                 Randy

	HFT!!!!!!!!

    If they keep on pushing up the Centrum on sale date there are gonna be
    alot of ticketless hoards. Hope things will go through on the 16th.
    
    FlexAble

re                      <<< Note 151.231 by ASIC::PATSIS >>>
                      -< Don't ya let that deal go down >-

>    If they keep on pushing up the Centrum on sale date there are gonna be
>    alot of ticketless hoards. Hope things will go through on the 16th.
 
I reckon not mon.  Last time Jerry was there, I don't think they sold much
over 60% of the capacity.

    Its times like the Jerry Garcia band getting 60% of a arenas possible
    crowd that you realize how much commercialization exists with the Dead.
    Its reassuring to know that with Jerry you can still casually enjoy a
    show, groove on just the music, and not other B.S. Not to demeanor the
    dead but I really enjoy a Jerry Break.
    
    FlexAble

    well, I wish a jerry break would happen somewhere closer to Colo than
    Calif!!! 
    
    rfb

	There are still tickets available at the Civic Center Box Office
	for tonights show.....

	I'm going!  :-)  :-)  :-)

    
    Think I just talked Don Mitchell into going with me too. Maybe we'll
    see ya there...  %*)
    
    							-jeff

    
    -1 jeff...you did :-)

    Deane talked me into going...:-)...See everyone there!
    
    :), danielle

    
    have a good time!  Jerry has definately been *on* for these shows!
    
    

    A friend of mine has an extra available for the Monday show at the
    Centrum.  Send me mail if you're interested.
    
    Thanks.
    
    tim
    

    I have two tickets available for the Jerry show tonight. Floor seats
    Row T, 20th row. If anyone is interested Email me or call at DTN
    297-8119.

    Rumor has it that the next JGB CD will be out in mid-April
    Culled from a run of shows at the Warfield in 1990 it will be titled
    "How Sweet It Is"
    
    tracks:
    How Sweet It Is
    Tough Mama
    That's What Love Will Make You Do
    Someday Baby
    Cats Down Under The Stars
    Tears of Rage
    Think
    Gomorrah
    Tore Up
    Like a Road
               

    <-------- sighted in local stores at 12.98 a pop

    picked it up yesterday at lunch - local mall store $13.99
    
    nice job! the pictures on the cover are cool - nice tune selection
    

    what's the price thru GDM???
    
    rfb

  Anyone familiar with songwriter/musician Essra Mohawk?
  Maybe from her associations with JGB and Zappa?

  I've been trading with a guy who knows her (acquaintance basis) and is a
  serious fan.  Sounds worth checking out...
  
  She was in the JGB in '81 and '82.  Was also the first Uncle Meat in the
  Mothers of Invention c. '67-8 (also involved romantically with Zappa).
  Sang on a few Schoolhouse Rock cartoons (whatever those are).

  Also wrote songs for the Shangri-Las (under her birth name, Sandy
  Hurvitz), Cyndi Lauper (Change of Heart), Bob Weir (not sure which), Lowen
  and Navarro, Tina Turner (Stronger Than the Wind).
  
  She and bassist Tim Drummond now co-lead the KillerGroove Band in/around
  Nashville, in the process of recording in LA with the Chambers Bros.
  
  She released an album in '70 called Primordial Lovers that's supposed to
  be great (amd hard to find); also Essra Mohawk in '74.

  If anyone's heard (of) her, I'd appreciate a second opinion...  - JayC.

    Schoolhouse Rock!
    
    
    "conjunction junction...what's your function?...picking up phrases and
    clauses.."
    
    or how bout this one
    
    "Lolly's lolly;s lolly's get your adverbs here"

    
    I'm just a bill yes I'm only a bill 
    and i'm sitting here on capitol hill
    and I hope someday i'll be a law
    oh i hope and pray that i will but today i am still a bill
    
    
    Toby

    "he was a very hairy bear..he was a scary bear..and we used ADJECTIVES
    to describe him"
    
    
    :^)
    
    

    
    
    gee...  thanks a LOT guys......  now i'm stuck with these friggin'
    songs....
    
    		INTERJECTIONS!
    
    			show excitement
    	
    				or emotion
    
    					hallelujah!!!
    
    						hallelujah!!!
    
    			HALLELUJAH!!!  YEAH!!!!!!!!
    
    			(darn!  that's the end....)
    
    
    						da ve