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All area codes below are (916)
All comments in parenthesis (...) are mine.  All quotes "..." are from yellow
pages. 
 
Red Lion Hotel  (very close to Cal Expo)
929-8855
 
Red Lion's Sacramento Inn  (a mile or so away, I think)
922-8041
 
Sands Motel "5 min to Cal Expo"
925-8584
 
Coral Reef Lodge "near Cal Expo"
483-6461
 
Expo Inn Motel "next to Cal Expo fairgrounds"  (I believe it's on the far
side from where you enter for the shows)
929-8772
 
Los Robles Economy Lodging "near Cal Expo"
925-3100
 
Sacramento Hilton 
922-4700
 
Ramada Inn "5 minutes from Cal Expo"
927-3492
 
Town and Country Inn "close to Cal Expo"
922-8801
 
The above list is by no means complete, or guaranteed to be completely 
accurate.  It is off the top of my head and out of a "January 1990-91 Yellow 
Pages"  Call around, have fun, and C YA THERE!!!
 
 
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Ramada Inn "5 minutes from Cal Expo"
927-3492

I think this is now the Canterbury Inn with the same number.

peace,
t!ng

SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA
======================
 
Hotels
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Auburn House, 2300 Auburn 916-484-1404
CLarion Hotel, 700 16th 916-444-8000
Executive Living, 2215 Plaza Dr 916-921-9494
Flagstone Hotel, 1111 7th 916-443-9641
Governors Inn 210 Richards Bl 916-448-7224
Harrah's Hotels &Casinos, 903 Enterprise Dr 916-922-4500
Howard Johnson, 3343 Bradshaw Rd 916-366-1266
Los Robles Lodge, 2200 Auburn 916-925-3100
Santa Fe Inn, 2600 Auburn 916-482-4770
 
Motels
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Best For Less Cabana Lodge, 16th & E St 916-444-3670
Best Western Harbor Inn, 1250 Halyard Dr 916-371-2100
Best 4 Less Motels 1731 West Capitol Ave (West Sac) 916-372-4195
Coral Reef Lodge, 2700 Fulton 916-483-6461
Crossroads Inn, 221 Jibboom 916-442-7777
Dodge City Inn, 2300 Auburn 916-973-8000
49er Moter Lodge, 2730 Auburn 916-972-9749
Motel 6, 7850 College Town Dr 916-383-8110
Pacific Motel, 1915 West Capitol Av (west Sac) 916-373-3800
Park Villa Motel, 6024 Stockton BL 916-428-9303
Sahara Motel, 1724 West Capitol Av (West Sac) 916- 372-7676
Super 8 Executive Suites, 216 Bannon 916-447-5400
 

    There's an RV_KAMPSITE_FROM_HELL right near there. Just follow the 
    camping signs (li'l blue teepee's). Make sure that you don't tell them
    that you're going to the concert.
    
    - Gerry

    grate woods
    sheraton mansfield
    marriot
    days inn ?
    
    bands usually stay at the sheraton if they pass on beantown or
    providence

    re .-1
    
    I'll make a recommendation for the Sheraton Mansfield. We stayed there
    last weekend for the folk festival. $118 for a night includes the most
    incredible brunch you ever saw! About an acre of food. I put on 5
    pounds, easy.

    According to my travel agent, the Sheraton Mansfield is now the
    Mansfield Host Hotel.  $75/night.  Not too steep, for Mass.
    
    Sounds like  $118/night was a little steep for Mansfield, of course
    there's no food included for $75, I'm sure.
    
    tim
    

My 2 cents..

If hotel prices in Manhattan make your jaw drop, you may want to consider
staying in a hotel in NJ or Queens.  I've never been in a hotel in either
location, but I'd imagine they are cheaper than those in Manhattan (although
maybe not much).

I'd prefer Queens, since it's easier to get to (pop in the subway anywhere in
Manhattan and you can get there).  Plus, it's my hometown!   With NJ, you have
to get to the Port Authority Terminal (reputed to be crime-ridden, even for
NYC!), which is about 15 blocks from the Garden, then get on a bus to NJ, which
may not actually get you to whatever hotel you may be in.  I don't know what
kind of mass transit NJ has (especially at night).  The NYC subway runs all
night, and you can get to most areas of Queens in about 45 minutes.  There are
hotels in Queens in the Elmhurst area (accessable by subway), and near
LaGuardia Airport, although you'd probably have to hop on a bus to get near
LGA.

adam

I stayed in the Southgate and thought it was good.  Nice room,  had 2
separate rooms, a bedroom w/ a door and the couch folded out into a
double bed.  It had a kitchen too.

the price you say?  well, ahem, I seem to have forgotten that smaLL
important piece of info.

took the train from BOS --> NYC then from there you walk out, and look
across the street and there it was. didn't even need a cab.

have fun,
bob

    
    Well, here's your first hotel hint:  Call American Express corporate
    travel: DTN 297-4711.  They typically have DEC rates at hotels near the
    DEC facilities, and our DEC facility is attached to MSG!  If you don't 
    mind staying on 8th Avenue, you can be close to the Garden & pay around 
    $85 for a room with 2 double beds. The DEC rate for the Southgate Tower 
    is $115 and they are diagonally across the street from the Garden. 
    (Same thing.. sleeps 4 or 5 or 10 and one person airbrushing t-shirts
    and 1 German shepherd but that's a story for another time ;-))  
    
    Adam's right about motels outside the city being cheaper, and Queens is
    probably the place with the most of them.  I don't have any info about
    any of them, though.  
    
    

The TreeMon and saw two showz in NYC last year.  We stayed at a Flea-Bag in
NJ for $45 for one night and with one of his friends the other night.  We
took these vans that go from the Joisey side (Wehawken, NJ) to the NYC port 
authority.  They cost about $1.75 a ride.  

Park in Wehawken on some side street, grab one of the vans (for more information
on the vans, talk to the folks at Ed and Joe's Bar in Wehawken), and have some
fun... the vans run fairly late (midnight at least, I think) so there is time
for one or two pops before ya gotta hit the road.

As for food in NYC, it is nothing but PIZZA for me!  Yum Yum.

JC

    FYI....
    
    
    As Jim said, all Amtrak trains enter and leave NYC through Penn
    Station.  Though keep in mind delays do occur.  Last time I took the
    train to Boston, we were stuck in New Haven for over 2 hours.  Taking a
    train that gets in at 6:30PM might be chancy.
    
    Also, a new budget price hotel just opened up.  It's called the
    Broadway American, 222 West 77th St, NYC 212-362-1100.  They advertise
    singles from $45.00.  Also check out the Hotel Empire, 44 West 63rd St
    212-265-7400 (across the street from Lincoln Ctr).  Both hotels are in 
    a great location, 5-10 minute subway ride from MSG.  The surrounding 
    neighborhood is very safe and you can park your car on the street, 
    however, it has to be on the right side of the street!!  Alternate 
    side of the street parking rules can be explained at a later date!!!
    See if they accept Digital Corporate discounts.
    
    Fredda

    
    	Howdy!
    
    	I havn't been in here for a while, nice to be back.
    
    	I recently (today) decided to go to Las Vegas to catch 
    	the late May showz, I know M/O is tomorrow but I was 
    	wondering if anyone had any info on package deals being
    	offered by travel agencies or the Dead office.  Is 
    	anyone else headed out that way?
    
    					Deane

re: <<< Note 169.35 by EBBV03::SMITH "spring skiing fan" >>>
        
    >wondering if anyone had any info on package deals being
    >offered by travel agencies 
    
    Sunday Globe lists some deals starting at $299 RT from Logan - car,
    hotel and airfare. Just gotta poke around.
    
    - Gerry

    I'm MOing. i guess the plan is my wife and a friends will fly out/back,
    he and I will transdentalmeditate or astal travel or
    something...haven't quite got the logistics all figgered out.
    CHrist, how do people come up with all the dough it takes to do
    this???????? We are checkin the papers for flight prices.  
                                                         rfb

	Also, try contacting the big casino's direct; they still offer very
attractive junkets (charter planes full up with Gamblers' Anonymous flunkies)

Big_Juile_Fogtraub

I'll be MOing for Vegas too...  

Was planning to either take a train, a bus, or walk (hitch)...  (walking would
be kinda reminiscent of The Stand - from Boulder to Vegas oooooo-eeeeyyyy-oooh) 

Would like to pitch in for hotel floor space if anyone's willing....

(rfb - let me know what y'all decide to do and if there's room for another...)

Glenn

 From Colorado Springs you can motor yourself to Las Vegas NM or La Junta CO
and get on board Amtrak's Southwest Chief which will take you to Las Vegas NV
I believe..lots cheaper than flying and a heck of a lot more fun.





Casey Jum

    
    Thanks folks!
    
    any further info will also be appreciated!  
    
    
    		Deane- who is going to the Casino after the show
    		       (just to watch!)  ;-)

    deane...you'll never see anything more funny that the Strip full of
    deadheads.....a site to behold...and laugh at!!!!!!!!!!!!
    rfb (the funniest was the guy laying down under the lights of the
    Tropacana(?) or the heads at the Excaliburs all you can eat buffet
    with 3 plates piled with fruits and veggies, spilling friuts and
    veggies everywhere)

I plan to MO for Vegas.  If you plan to visit the Casinos and/or
party all night, you should stay somewhere on the Strip although
you have to deal with the cheese factor.  Some of the prices I
know of are:

	Dunes      	$69/night
	Excalibur 	$59/69 (Fri-Sat), $35 (Sun-Thur)
	Mirage     	$139/night
	Bally's	   	$85/night
	Maxim	   	$55 (Fri-Sat), $35 (Sun-Thur)
	Center Strip	$64-71 (Fri-Sat), $55-62 (Sun-Thur)
	Barbary Coast	$45/night
	Townhall Hotel	$30 (Fri-Sat), $20 (Sun-Thur)
	Super 8		$53 (Fri-Sat), $43 (Sun-Thur)
	BW Mardi Gras	$42/night

I stayed at the Best Western Mardi Gras last year.  It's about 1/2 mile
from the Strip.  Every room in that place is a mini-suite with a queen-
size bed and a queen-size hideaway, a wetbar, and a refrigerator.  The
one thing the Mardi Gras won't have is the glittery (and cheesy) casinos
and sideshows.  Your AAA California/Nevada Tourbook will give you more
choices.  Don't forget to ask for AAA rates if you're a member or check
corporate rates.  See ya there!

peace,
t!ng

    re: queen size bed, wetbar and fridge
    
    JEZZZZ! I'm stayin with you!!!! %^)
                                       rfb

    Circus Circus - is @$20 Sun-Thru @$25 Fri-Sat last I checked.....they
    have a 800 number but I don't know it...

	Yeah, Circus Circus is a "trip" in itself...
:-)

Circus Circus is the ultimate Las Vegas cheese ;-).  But a circus is 
a circus so a circus inside the Circus Circus is very apprpriate, I guess.

peace,
t!ng

    
    I just got a good price for a flight out of Boston through American
    Express, $300 bucks, but I can't confirm anything until I am 
    positive I have my tix.  As far as lodging goes I am looking into
    campgrounds, but I may cheese whiz it  ;-)

    For $300 you could have a car, hotel and RT ticket! You should
    really check into that!

    Spag's has the 1992 Fodor's _Las Vegas, Reno, Tahoe_ for $7.99.
    Info on Hotel's, Casinos, Restaurants, etc...  also some
    tips on how to gamble wisely (though some might call that
    an oxymoron).
    
    Feel free to stop by my office to check out my copy...
    LTN1-2, office 444   ("they" are painting, and there
    no pole numbers visible!).
    
    I'll probably get Frommer's book later this week.
    
    /bruce
    
    

I just scanned this topic and found no hotel information for albany, ny.
I know it was in here one day/year ....  anyone have any info?  I want to
book a room now before they raise the rates $25 !

JC

    re: -.1
    
    You mean you actually expect to get *tickets*? HAH! :-) Should be
    easier to get a hotel this year without the Sumo Wrestling convention
    in town. ;-) 
    
    - Gerry

    RE: sumo
    I thought that's why the shows were scheduled for that time, so Jerry
    could participate in two events.....%^)
                                           rfb

    
    Does anyone out there (in this vast wealth of knowledge)
    know of a hotel(s) located on the road leading to or near
    the backside entrance to Meadowlands?  There is a Ground
    Round on the same road...???  
    
    MJ
    

    Ok, I'll try again...
    
    Any suggestions on a camp site in Buffalo???
    
    

    You can camp in any of the private lots surrounding the stadium.
    I recommend one of the grass lots. Sorry, but i don't have campground
    info.
    
    - Gerry

    Thanks Gerry!
    
    MJ

    A post card to 
        Las Vegas Convention & Visitors Bureau
        3150 Paradise Rc
        Las Vegas NV 89109-9096
    
    will bring some info re:  buffets, hotels/motels, restaurants,
    attractions.  Too much to type in.
          
    A post card to:
    
       Dept of Conservation & Natural Resources
       Division of State Parks
       Capitol Complex
       Carson City NC 89710
    
    will get a booklet listing Campsites & RV parks.  Too much to
    type in.  I also asked for and received a state road map.
    
    
    Don't forget to include your name & address...
    or come by LTN1-2 Office 444 and copy what I've got...
    
    
    /bruce

Still trying to get my act together for Vegas --- How do you check what's
available through corporate rates? 

We're planning to camp out at Lake Mead for most of the days, but I'd like to
get a hotel on Saturday for minor things like a shower ;^)

Once I get these things settled, I would like to plan on meeting some of you
out there -- will reply to that one later...

    bring the sunscreen Glenn!!!! Mead doesn't have a tree around it fer 20
    miles (cept Misquite (sp) trees which barely count.) One thing, Mead is
    closer to Henderson, where we are staying, and to the Silver Bowl....
    be sure and set a dumpster on fire for us!!!! %^) NOT! and we gotta go
    to Enzos together!!!!!!!!!!! 
                                rfb

    also go see the travel agent on site for rates.....
                                                       rfb

    According to the _Albany County Travel Guide_
    
    Jeremy's Inn
    500 Nortern Blvd
    Albany NY 12204    (518) 462-5562
    
    Minutes from Empire State Plaza, Capital District, and
    Albany Airport. Group, corporate and government rates. 
    In room video entertainment, laudromat, restrurant next
    door.  102 rooms/33 suites.  Free cable; restaurant
    serving breakfast, lunch, dinner;  non-smoking rooms,
    kitchenettes.  weekend packages.  Rates $30-35 non-peak; 
    #35-40 oeak.
    
    I've got a reservation for June 11;  he implied that
    they never fill up.   Anybody know anything about this
    place?
    
    /bruce

    
    jeremy's sounds good.  But where did all the last year info on Albany
    hotels go?  there was a lotta stuff in here.  
    
    carol

re -.1 ditto ....

Can someone who's received a list of hotels with their MO tickets, please
post the list here?

- thanks
  Dave

I stayed at the Blazed Inn, err, Dazed Inn, ooops, I mean the Days Inn, which
is about 2 miles from downtown Albany...

Don't have the # handy.  $80 plus the whopper NY hotel tax (10% I think!).
Not a bad place....

	anyone else camping for Albany?

	I just made reservation at Thompson's Lake State Park
	1-800-456-CAMP

	Debess

    
    John Shep and I will be staying at Jeremy's Inn on Northern Blvd...
    who all is staying where?  
    
    carol 

re:     <<< Note 169.68 by SELL1::ROBERTS "a blinding flash o'the obvious" >>>
>                  -< and see you all at Hill Street Cafe !! >-
>
>    
>    John Shep and I will be staying at Jeremy's Inn on Northern Blvd...
>    who all is staying where?  

I got a suite at Jeremy's Inn.  $45 a night for 2 rooms and a kitchen!  Not
bad.

I guess I'll see you there!

adam

re:     <<< Note 169.68 by SELL1::ROBERTS "a blinding flash o'the obvious" >>>
                  -< and see you all at Hill Street Cafe !! >-

I'm staying at the Dazed & Confused Inn, er, Days Inn, located somewhere
about 1.8 miles from the Knick.

I'll try to meet up @ Hill St. Cafe also.... where is the map of the albany
area anyways (showing where the Hill St. cafe is)???

oh, i'm just there for Fri night;

    
    "Been at the Dazed and Confused Inn for so long its not true;
     wanted The Dead never bargained for Who!!"
    
     

    We stayed at the Dazed Inn two years ago for the showz ... man, whatta
    party!  They left the lounge open all night, and played 'Dead tunes on
    the P.A. system.  Somewhere between 2 and 3 AM the elevator broke ...
    when they got it going the next morning around 8, they found a
    half-dozen deadheads in there sleeping.
    
    ... Bobbb
    

Anyone else staying at the DAZED INN??

A few years ago when I saw the Dead in Chicago we stayed at the Days in on 
Lake Shore Drive.

When people asked us where we were we said "We're dazed inn on LSD":-)


Geoff

    I booked a room at Jeremy's Inn for friday night. I'm heading out
    with Billetier (that would make 2 acoustic guitars) and possibly
    Ken "I have no idea how much money I have in the bank; I never
    bother to check" Symonds (that would make 3 acoustic guitars).
    Of course I can't count on Ken to share in the cost of a room :-)
    
    - Dave

 Hey, guess there'll be 2 Dave Clark's at Jeremy's :-)  Thats where me n' DC,
 and John and Carol are staying!





 Jum 

Looks like a party at Jeremy's!!

(I wanna meet this Jeremy dude)

adam

    We're staying at the .. (get this :-) ... Beaver Meadow Wilderness
    Family Campground... we always stay there for the Buffalo shows.. it's
    nice.

    Beaver Meadow?  that's pretty good! :^)  labor day week, when we go
    camping in Washington we'll be at (i still smile at this one!):
            
    
    			Dose-wallips...  :^) :^)
    
    
    					da ve_who_sez_"Dose_your_own_
    					damn_wall_lips_dammit!" :^)

    :-)

    >labor day week, when we go camping in Washington we'll be at 
    > (i still smile at this one!): Dose-wallips...  :^) :^)
    
    It's better than that! Get this (and I'm not kidding :-)... 
    
    
    We follow the Dosewallips River (where locals claim to hear Gremlin
    voices in the river :-), bearing right at Dose Forks. Continue on to Dose
    Meadow (where we'll take a break :-) and then on to 1000-Acre Meadow
    (which is actually only 500 acres big :-) to set up camp. After supper
    we'll hike up to the ridge and relax at Bone camp and maybe climb
    a peak to catch the sunset.
    
    I tried to explain to da ve that we have many more options to explore
    before our trip, but he seems Hell-bent on this particular itinerary. :-)
    
    - Gerry

    :-)
    
    	Sounds like a plan..
    
    							/
    

    Re: .76
    
    >Hey, guess there'll be 2 Dave Clark's at Jeremy's:-) Thats where me n'
    
    there's another Dave Clark??? 
    
    :-)
    

    there are multiple Dave Clarks. We're pretty much interchangeable.
    If he spaces out in the middle of a conversation and forgets what
    he was talking about, I can pick up the thread and complete his
    thought. It's like the 6:30 Calvin and the 8:30 Calvin.
    
    - DC

Yeah, I'm the failover Dave Clark server.

Oy ...

> Yeah, I'm the failover Dave Clark server.

And in times of real emergency, one of the other Dave's could probably take
over...

:-)

Dave

    Yes,.. more than one Dave Clark,...
    
    Hardly interchangeable
    
    And I suspect that the true Dave Clark nature of some of these
    folks could be debated after closter scrutiny,...
    
    IMHO of course!
    
    					The one,. the only,.. /
    

	So what yer sayin' is we have a fault-tolerant Dave Clark 
	parallel processing system.

    
    Welp, Jeremy's (the place that never fills up) is filled up!
    
    Treemon_who'd like_to_join_the_party_but_doesn't_mind_bringing_a_tent
    and_joining_Debess_and_company_at_Thompson's_Lake_State+Park...
    
    Under the stars :^)   right next to RV's :^(
    
    Tree

    Does anyone want to split a room for the Atlanta run? Camping
    is ok too since I'll have all of my gear with me.
    
    ger

    
    What's a name or two of downtown (within a few blocks o'the Knick)
    hotels in Albany?  
    
    c

    
    .91 c
    
    One is the Econo Lodge, which is already booked. Then you got the Omni
    (former Hilton) at ~145 a nite..I have the Hotel list from June if
    you want more Hotel info..? We booked the Red Roof on Wolf rd. 55 a
    nite. It's about 15 mins away..
    
    Don

    yeah - if you have the list that would be great.  I never seem to save
    the list from one year to the next .. a touch of fatilism mebbee??
    
    carol

    
    There are also a couple of HoJo's in the area.... not right
    downtown tho...
    
    

RED ROOF is the way to go!  Great layout for a dead-crowd.

adam

ps. anyone going to North Carolina let me know...

    Offhand, Albany has the following... Jeremy's, Red Roof Inn, Econ O'lodge, 
    Days Inn, Hilton and Fort Crailo Motor Lodge. Directory assistance will
    get you there. Shoulda booked a room when I posted the rumors 2 months
    ago. :-) :-) :-)
    
    ger

dc & I are going to road trip to NC if we tix.  fingers crossed.

    Jeez, you could mail order next month and still get NC tickets. :-)

re                      <<< Note 169.98 by SCOONR::GLADU >>>

>    Jeez, you could mail order next month and still get NC tickets. :-)

I can believe this.  Last year, I short-changed 'em (I was off in space when
I MOed) and they still gave me the tix and didn't even ask for the money.

    
    I did call the Hilton months ago when I first got the dates, and
    Saturday night was already booked.  Maybe the Sumo wrestlers are back
    in town. ;-)
    
    

                                                              
    list of hotels for the albany area. this is from the june 92 shows.
    
    motel blu-stone 1666 colubia tpk castleton,ny 518 477 2606
    mount vernon motel 576 columbia tpk (rts9 & 20) e greenbush,ny 477-9352
    days inn rt9 west glenmont 518-465-8811
    ramada 1228 western ave albany 518-489-2981
    travel lodge 1230 western ave albany 518-489-4423
    econo lodge 1632 central albany 518-456-8811
    travleres 1630 central albany 518-456-0222
    ft. crailo 110 columbia tpk rensselaer 518-472-1360
    turf inn 205 wolf rd. albany 518-458-7250
    econo lodge 300 broadway albany 518-434-4111
    hampton inn 10 ulenski dr albany 518- 438 2822
    red roof inn 188 wolf rd albany 518-459-1971
    arcadia motel 1222 central albany 518-459-4250
    central motel 1384 central albany 518-869-3300
    empire state 1606 central albany 518-869-5327
    the lookout inn 622 watervliet shaker rd latham 518-785-1414
    
    CAMPING: rhinebeck long pond lake vacation resort 914-266-5076
             cario whip-o-will family campsite 518-494-2280
             glenns falls lake george campsite 518-798-6218
             west copake oleana family campground 518-329-2811
    

There's another hotel called Jeremy's Inn or something like that with Jeremy
in it.  Wicked cheap but what a dump.  My housemate booked the Blu-stone but
where the hell is Castleton?  Doesn't sound too close to the arena, but then
again I don't know Albany too well.  I'm trying for Wolf Rd.  That's not too
far.

adam

    FYI....
    
    I justed called the Residence Inn (518-783-0600) in Latham, NY - 15
    minutes from downtown Albany, NY.
    
    They are NOT accepting any discounts for what she called "Grateful Dead
    Weekend", not AAA, not the Entertainment Book, not anything!
    
    
    Fredda

    I guess they will not be expecting many DECheads then huh !
    
    
    Chris

    One main reason for making reservations *before* show announcements
    is to get the discount rate as opposed to the inflated deahdead rate.
    
    Gerry

    I made reservations at the Travel Lodge on Western Ave...they said they
    are 4 miles from Knickerbocker...
    
    :), danielle

    Well alright! That makes at least 2 Decheads at the Travel Lodge :^)
    
    Would there be interest in a keg from the Catamount Brewery?  On my
    way out I want to stop in for a tour and would look into getting one 
    if there's enough interest.
    
    peace,Andy

re      <<< Note 169.107 by SALEM::BURNS "world peace begins at home :^)" >>>
                  -< that is if my tix come in of course :^) >-

>    Would there be interest in a keg from the Catamount Brewery?  On my
>    way out I want to stop in for a tour and would look into getting one 
>    if there's enough interest.
 
Isn't Catamount near White River Jct?  If so, this is _really_ outta the
way for ya mon... but, if you're into it, i'll drink it!

we're at the red roof inn ... isn't the travel lodge & rri next to each other?

re: Note 169.108 by ZENDIA::FERGUSON 
    
>Isn't Catamount near White River Jct?  If so, this is _really_ outta the
>way for ya mon... but, if you're into it, i'll drink it!
    
    You can get Catamount kegs from a package store. If you're going to
    bother with a keg, why not do a Cambridge Brewery keg. The beer's 
    fresher.
    
    Gerry

    I thought Albany was sitting a bit further north than it appears on
    the map. Like after I got to WRJ I could take a straight left and
    end up in the arena (Phils side about 1/3 from the front and about
    five rows up :^)
    
    As this is not the case I would definately consider going to CBC
    for some nice fresh beer for the shows. 
    
    peace,Andy

    we're at jeremy's again this year.  it was a fun crowd last year -
    all kinds of folks from inside and outside DEC.  strangely enough I was
    unable to book rooms downtown at a hotel close to the Knick *before* I
    knew the tour dates.  
    
    carol

    But I posted the tour dates in November.

    
    oh yeah .. I thought they were rumours, though.  
    
    next time I'll pay more attention dammit!!

    Where is jeremy's?
    
    :), danielle
    

    on northern blvd.  this time we got a kitchenette kinda thing - with
    AAA, it's reasonable. 
    
    wish I could get frequent flyer miles by staying there... :-)
    
    

Was Jeremy's $45 for the suite, like last year?  I thought the place was kinda
dumpy.  Not too dumpy for a deadhead, I guess. :-)

I got a room at the Empire State, on Central St.  Anyone ever stay there?

adam

    re-posted from the USENET. Thought this might be good information
    to have in here.
    
    TL
    
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I got this off of rec.gambling a while ago, it might help someone find a
room if they need it.

  Aladdin             (800) 634-3424   The Nevada Palace       (800) 634-6283
  Alexis Park         (800) 582-2228   O'Sheas Casino          (702) 792-0777
  Arizona Charlie's   (800) 342-2695   Paddlewheel             (800) 782-2600
  Bally's Resort      (800) 634-3434   Palace Station          (800) 634-3101
  Barbary Coast       (800) 634-6755   Park Hotel              (800) 782-9909
  Binion's Horseshoe  (800) 237-6537   Quality Inn             (800) 634-6617
  Bourbon Street      (800) 634-6956   Ramada Las Vegas        (800) 634-6599
  Caesars Palace      (800) 634-6661   Ramada Suites-St. Trop. (800) 666-5400
  California Hotel    (800) 634-6255   Rio Suite Hotel/Casino  (800) 888-1808
  Circus Circus       (800) 634-3450   Riviera Hotel           (800) 634-6753
  Continental Hotel   (800) 634-6641   Royal Hotel & Casino    (800) 634-6118
  Desert Inn          (800) 634-6906   Sahara Hotel            (800) 634-6666
  Dunes Hotel         (800) 243-8637   Sam's Town              (800) 634-6371
  El Cortez           (800) 634-6703   Sands Hotel             (800) 634-6901
  El Rancho           (800) 634-3410   Santa Fe                (800) 726-8233
  Excalibur           (800) 937-7777   Showboat Hotel          (800) 826-2800
  Fitzgeralds         (800) 274-5825   Silver City             (702) 732-4152
  Flamingo Hilton     (800) 732-2111   Slots-A-Fun             (702) 734-0410
  Four Queens         (800) 634-6045   Stardust Hotel          (800) 634-6757
  Fremont Hotel       (800) 634-6182   Townhall/Vagabond       (800) 634-6541
  Frontier Hotel      (800) 634-6966   Tropicana               (800) 634-4000
  Gold Coast          (800) 331-5334   Vacation Village        (800) 338-0608
  Gold Spike          (800) 634-6703   Union Plaza             (800) 634-6575
  Golden Gate         (800) 426-0521   Vegas World             (800) 634-6277
  Golden Nugget       (800) 634-3454   Western Hotel           (800) 634-6703
  Hacienda Hotel      (800) 634-6713   Westward Ho             (800) 634-6651
  Holiday Casino      (800) 634-6765   Colorado Belle          (800) 458-9500
  Hotel Nevada        (800) 637-5777   Edgewater Hotel         (800) 67-RIVER
  Hotel San Remo      (800) 522-7366   Flamingo Hilton         (800) HILTONS
  Imperial Palace     (800) 634-6441   Golden Nugget           (800) 237-1739
  Lady Luck           (800) 523-9582   Harrah's                (800) 447-8700
  Las Vegas Club      (800) 634-6532   Pioneer                 (800) 634-3469
  Las Vegas Hilton    (800) 732-7117   Ramada Express          (800) 2-RAMADA
  Mardi Gras Inn      (800) 528-1234   Regency Casino          (800) 551-1950
  Maxim Hotel         (800) 634-6987   Riverside Resort        (800) 227-3849
  The Mirage          (800) 627-6667   Sam's Town Gold River   (800) 835-7903
 

    Anyone in need of a place to crash in Albany Sunday night????  We're in
    need of a fourth person to share a room at EconoLodge.
    
    Please send mail.....  GAVEL::GARVEN.
    
    Donna

    
    Just to add to the last note from Donna...  
    
    The Econolodge is about a 2 minute walk from the Knick...
    VERY convenient place to stay for Albany showz...
    
    

    
    I'm looking for crash space for two (my friend Christine and I)
    for Friday night in Nassau...  if anyone has a room to share 
    I'd really appreciate it!  
    
    thanks!
    
    MJ

    
       I just booked my hotel for the  Giant Stadium shows...so, if ya 
    plan on doing the same I got a list of  hotel info..
    
    heres one: Red Roof $60.99 (double) per nite ~1 mile from the sport complex
    201-319-1000
    
    
    Don
    

Hi Don,

I am also staying at the Red Roof Inn in the Meadowlands.  Just to clarify, I 
called the 800 number they have, and they gave me a price of $65.99 for one
double bed.  Maybe I should call the number you listed.

Kim

    
    re:Red Roof NJ
    
    That's funny (funny-strange, not funny-HA-HA) becuase we made a
    reservation  for a double bed at $55.99 (plus tax). Maybe they
    just arbitraliry quote prices to confuse the Deadheads...  %-}
    
    Steve-O

    
    re.Kim
    
    When did you call? I booked direct, calling the number I listed.
    
    Chances are, the prices have gone up since I called on 4-12.
    
    Don

Hi Don,

I called yesterday.  I am going to call now direct and see what they say.

Thanks.

Kim

O.k. I just called the Red Roof direct, he told me, that they were informed there 
is an "event" happening that weekend, so they are able to raise the room rates.
So some of us got lucky with a cheaper rate and some of us have to pay a higher 
rate because we booked after they went up!  Bummer.  Of course, I am in the latter 
category. :-(

Now, I just hope I get tix.  I didn't M/O on the first day, I sent it in on the 
following Monday, so what are my chances of getting tix?  I'm hoping I still get 
them since the place is so big.  Any comments on this thinking???

Thanks,
Kim

re:                    <<< Note 169.123 by VIA::RAB::MORAROS >>>
>                             -< more on Red Roof >-
>
>I am also staying at the Red Roof Inn in the Meadowlands.  Just to clarify, I 
>called the 800 number they have, and they gave me a price of $65.99 for one
>double bed.  Maybe I should call the number you listed.

I also got the same deal from the 800 number.

I also got a 2-bed room near RFK for $59 (I think).  The closest Red Roof (I
think it's in Lanham, about 10 miles from RFK, but all highway driving).

adam

    
     anybody got camping or hotel info for either Deer Creek or RFK?
    
    Sean

	For RFK:   Cherry Hills Campground in College Park MD

		   About 7 miles from RFK

		   I've been staying there for the past 5 years
		   for the D.C. shows and it's not the most
		   countryish place in the world, but it's very
		   convenient to D.C. (Right off the interstate)
	
		  

    
    
    I made reservation at a Best Western which is ~8miles from the
    Coliseum. It's on the south side of the island next to Amityville.
    (Could be a Horror show)
    
    price $79.00 plus tax for a double. I'll bring in the phone # if
    anyone is interested.
    
    Don
    
    

    
    hey don, is that in Hempstead?  I made a reservation there
    and they quoted me $89+ for a double!  Harumph!!!
    

    
    
    MJ   no. Massapequa Park..  weir you are is closer to the coliseum..
    from the map I have here 'bout 1-2miles
    
    
    
    Don

    
    
    oh, okay, just checkin!  
    
    thanks!
    
    

 >   MJ   no. Massapequa Park..  weir you are is closer to the coliseum..

Massapequa, Massapequa Park, Amityville, Cohpaigue and Lindenhurst
now boarding on track 31....

    Is anyone per chance booking a room at the Uniondale Marriott during
    Nassau's second series?
    
    chris_just_wunderin'

    Has anyone goin to rfk had luck with camping? i called a coupla places
    on the GDTS mailer....2 aren't taking reservations-1st come, 1st
    serve.. 1 was disconnected.....1 was booked....1 was a youth camp
    only..... 1 was 45 miles from the show.....from what the non-reserv.
    campgrounds were saying theey filled up the THURS before the shows last
    year... You think Bill and Hillary will give us the Oval Office for 
    2 nights?  I'll do the dishes and vacuum, i promise..
    chris

    
    Try Cherry Hills Campground in College Park MD.
    
    10 minutes from RFK

    that was one of the ones i called, booked solid...

    Try Watkins Park Campground in Upper Marlboro, MD.
    
    Jamie

    
    Wow! I'm surprised!  I used to do drive-in's to Cherry Hill's the 
    day before the show w/out calling or anything....hummmmm
    
    Did you tell them you were there for the Deadshow?  I always told em I
    was traveling cross country and had a RV! ;-)

    damn...
    i shoulda used the rv line..:^)
    they asked ME, "You here for the show?" 
    i said, "Oh yeah, i wouldnt' miss Wayne Newton for anything!!!"
    chris 
    no answer in upper marlboro, i'll try them tomorrow...

    Anyone heading to Giant's :
    
    I just got reservations at Days Inn Meadowlands SR 120 for $85/nite for
    a double. Not bad for Jersey this time of year. Looks like the hotel is
    easily walking distance to the stadium. Anyone ever stayed here?
    
    If you're interested in res. there call 201-507-5222
    
    								-jeff

    
    I believe this is the days inn I stayed in the past couple 
    years...  not walking distance but a very quick drive.  
    
    Two years ago the parking lot scene at the hotel was like a
    mini dead show...  tatoo bus, fajita bus, balloon bus... you
    name it!  :-)  and people set up tents all along the grass
    and camped.  fun time
    
    last year was not quite the same but still pretty cool.
    
    MJ

Any recommendations for hotels for the Vegas shows?  I haven't been to Vegas
since 89 and at that time I stayed at a chain hotel.

I have no idea where the stadium is in relation to the strip, nor do I know
where the strip is in relation to the rest of Vegas. :-)

adam

ps. is it true that any of the casinos (even the real nice ones) will have
rooms for cheap (under $50 a night?)

    Vegas has our number now, Adam....Sat and Sun nites at the Excalibur
    are $150.00/nite because "..some band called the grateful dead is comin
    that weekend.." our sh*tbox casino near Henderson and the gig upped the
    sat and sun nite rooms to 65$..call them soon rooms are goin FAST
    ....NEVADA PALACE
    
    
    henderson----silver bowl--greenvalley------airport----strip---vegas proper
    get the picture???
    
    rfb

    We're staying at the Boulder Statuin, a new hotel on Henderson Highway
    about one mile from the stadium (and THAT's gonna be rfb's famous "ten
    minutes from the stadium in the Deadcrowd!) We reserved two months ago
    and have rooms for $60/nite Thurs. and Sun. and 70/nite Fri. and Sat.
    
    Other places close by are Sam's Town and Nevada Palace (but bot ten
    mins on THOSE days!)
    Downtown there is the Golden Nugget, where Marty and I usually stay (we
    go to Vegas about twice a year and gamble our life's savings away...
    last year I went through a WHOLE ROLL of quarters). the Four Queens
    (possibly a little cheaper than most), the Frontier, and the Plaza
    (where the train station is)
    
    On the Strip there are the Excalibur, MGM Grand (and it is grand...
    also expensive), the Luxor unless it's fallen down by now, Treasure
    Island, Caesar's Palace, the Barbary Coast, and dozens more "too
    numerous to mention"
    
    Off the Strip are the Rio and Palace Station...
    
    This is by no means a solicitation for any of these... get reservations
    somewhere fast; you won't believe the crowds for these shows!
    
    ...michael T. TourGuideHead

    Boulder Station Tele No. (also Palace Station as they are sister
    operations) is 1-800-683-7777
    

In anticipation of the Albany shows, I've booked 2 rooms at the Motel 6 in
Albany, just off exit 5 of I-90, about 5 miles from the Knick.  The rooms were
cheap - $52 a night including tax.  I don't have thier reservation number
handy, but I know it's in either the 505 or 515 area code - it's a toll call.

adam

    Area code = 518
    
    FT

    uh, did I miss something? There's albany shows?
    
    - Mr. Clueless who hasn't been paying too much attention lately

	6/21-6/22  not yet announced. heard on local radio, and seen in
	local papers (according to rumors).

    and charged accordingly by the downtownhotels_who_know_the_band_is 
    coming.
    

	who's staying where in albany?
	where's *the* site?  

    Jay -
    	Myself and crew, Don Mitchell and crew, Todd Nicholson and crew and
    Dorothy Philbrick and crew (TicketBastard willing) are staying at the
    Ramada (formerly an EconoLodge) on 300 Broadway in downtown Albany. Big
    bucks but its easily walking distance so worth it to me. Lemme know if
    ya want more info on the place.
    
    							-jeff 

    
    Jay, hook up with Leblanc and let's stay at the Ritz'y
    joint right next to the Knick (is that the Ramada?).
    Vince will be at the bahhhh.
    
    For the second night, all are welcome to stay at Deane'os
    mountainside/lakeside hide-away in Otis Mass (about 30-45 
    minutes East of Albany NY) using the Lee Mass. Turnpike Exit.
    
    "One pane of glass in the window
     Noone is complainin though
     Come in and close the door"
                                

    
    -jay
    
    price really isn't to bad (~100) if ya split it down say 3ways....plus
    like jeff sez..the location is nice....
    
    Don
    
    ps; Hi MJ! 
    

	i hear ya, don.
	no pahkin hassles/fees
	
	currently under consideration and consultation.
	
	jay

    SCREW IT!!!
    let's sleep under the satellite dish!!!

    One thing to consider is that since these are weekday shows all the
    "straights" will be at work until 5pm or so which means pahking in the
    local garages and such will be a nightmare! In fact in '93 they didn't
    open the garages to DeadHeads until 5:30 - that cuts it pretty close
    for me. I remember big headaches on the Monday show in '93 for this
    very reason. If you get in at the Ramada, once you park in their lot
    you're done as far as travelling to the shows is concerned.

    John Shep and i are at the Downtown Ramada both nites.  i'm thinking 
    it's worth it - everything is within walking distance...should be a 
    blast.  
    
    Carol from the park it once school 

I'm staying at the Motel 6 about 5 miles west of the Knick.  I actually
have 2 rooms reserved ($52 a night), and since my housemate got rejected it
looks like it's available if anyone wants it.  Otherwise I'll cancel it
(I'll wait until just before the shows to cancel).

adam

    
    I'm at Motel 6 too. Just 6/22 though. Hope they save me one!
    
    Cathy

I don't know where i;'m staying yet.
a friend has a place but i have no idea where.
still not sure what showz i'm gonna see.

    This seems like a logical place to ask... I'm looking for a hotel
    in San Francisco for a couple nights, hopefully not to send me into
    the poorhouse but a nice place anyway.  If anyone has suggestions
    I'll gratefully receive them. Thanks.  All I care about the location
    is I can get to/from the airport and that it's in the city so I
    can go get some espresso for breakfast!

    Tom