Conference rdvax::grateful

I think the MA Ticketmaster number is (617) 931-2000.

- Dave

This list is from 1/22/88, so some numbers, locations and/or other info
may have changed.  Dial 411 or [1-areacode-555-1212] for information, or
look up the phone #'s in a phonebook.

    
Ticketmaster Charge Line	(617) 787-8000 	M-F 9AM - 10PM
						SUN 9AM - 9PM

New England Ticketmaster Locations
==================================

Massachusetts

Auburn		Angel Video		off 850 Southbridge Street, Rte. 12
					(owners hate scalpers and deadheads)
Boston		Boston Tower Records	360 Newbury Street
Boston		Good Vibrations		BU Bookstore
Boston		Orpheum Theatre		Hamilton Place
Brockton	Side 1 Records		51 Oak Street Extension
Brookline	Good Vibrations		487 Harvard Street
Canton		Good Vibrations		Village Mall
Danvers		MVP Sports		107 High Street
Fitchburg	Parke Snow's Movieland	540 Main Street
Foxboro		Good Vibrations		Bradlee's Plaza
Hanover		Good Vibrations		Washington Street
Hyannis		Side 1 Records		Capetown Plaza, Rte. 132
Lowell		Garnick Records		54 Middlesex Street
Marlboro	City Hall Music		83 Broad Street
Natick		Good Vibrations		Sherwood Plaza, Rte. 9
North Dartmouth	Good Vibrations		331 State Road
New Bedford	The Zeiterion Theater	684 Purchase Street
Norwood		Video Connections	44 Vanderbilt Drive
Raynham		Good Vibrations		Shaws/Ames Plaza
Saugus		Flagship Entertainment	639 Broadway
Seekonk		Good Vibrations		Seekonk Square
Somerville	MVP Sports		Twin City Plaza, McGrath Highway
Sturbridge	Sturbridge Book Shop	582 Main Street
Weymouth	Flagship Entertainment	Shaw's Plaza
Woburn		MVP Sports		237 Lexington Street
Worcester	Movies & More		1280 Grafton Street
Worcester	Goood Vibrations	Greendale Mall


New Hampshire

Concord		Capitol Theatre		44 South Main Street
Manchester	Compact Disc		1087 Elm Street


Rhode Island

Cranston	Flagship Entertainment	505 Atwood Avenue
Providence	Ray's Entertainment	815 Hope Avenue

    Add to the New Hampshire listings:
    
    Nashua - Rainbow Compact Disc, Amherst Street
    

    Delete the Capitol Theatre in Concord, NH from the list. The theater
    closed last year:-(.
    
    Mike

    I called Albany today here ticketmaster phone numbers for Albany
    tickets.
    212 307-7171
    201 507-8900
    518 476-1000
    914 454-3388
    Ticket outlets are
    For Albany are Knickerbocker Stamford Conn. Norwalk Conn.
    Don,t know outlet names in Conn.
    IN Mass BD Music IN Pittsfield MA. only outlet to sell in Mass.
    These are called the TRI STATE outlets NY. NJ. CONN
    There maybe more outlets  in NY. and NJ 
    If shows do not sell out on 22 HAHA tickets nation wide on 23rd.
    BD Music is considered in the Albany area.

  LOS ANGELES -AP- Ticketmaster Corp. has agreed to acquire rival Ticketron, 
the computerized ticketing agency said. 

  Ticketmaster didn't disclose terms of the deal for Landover, Md.-based 
Ticketron, which is owned by Carlyle Group.  Both companies are privately 
owned. 

  Ticketmaster spokesman Larry Solters said a letter of intent for the 
purchase has been signed. 

    FYI - Orlando Ticketmaster phone number is:
    
    407-839-3900
    

    Not sure if this is the right place for this info, but here's a useful
    phone number:
    
    Grate Woods Box Office       508-339-2333
    
    Bill

    here is ticketpro phone number and outlets if you live outside of 
    mass rhode island nh or maine
    your out of luck no other outlets this is a brand new ticket agency
    so look for a lot of problems this will be there first large event.
    phone is 1-800-828-7080
    outlets in mass boston rockstop
    sports fanatics quincy watertown
    video paradise danvers
    dedham
    easton
    hyannis
    leominster
    medford
    north andover
    taunton
    wakefield
    walpole
    westboro
    landmark video lowell
    video to go west springfield
    
    maine mail boxes etc. auburn south portland
    record exchange portland
    
    NH musicsmith portland
    
    RI kelleys sporting goods cranston
    
    these are the only outlets they have outside of boston garden
    rember when concerts are announced on radio thats when they 
    start giving out wrist bands good luck

I saw an ad in yesterday's paper that said NH Musicsmith in PORTSMOUTH not
Portland.







Jim

	I just called up the 800 Ticketmaster number to see
	about Dead tickets which go on sale Saturday...

	I was only asking about Albany.  She said the only
	number which will be selling them is 1-518-476-1000
	(am I shooting myself in the foot here ;-) - naw,
	y'all would do the same for me!)...

	Also, she said that only "local" Ticketmasters will
	be selling tickets - she said there is one in Pittsfield
	at BD Music on 247 North St. - but said to call there
	and make sure ahead of time.  If anyone does call there
	to find out, can you let me know, I'm considering driving
	down there Saturday...

	Debess

	Numbers for TicketMaster:

603 626 5000  (main NH number)
617 931 2000  (main Mass number)

    I didn't see this in here (but I didn't look :^) . . . the new east
    coast hotline no. is 201-744-7700.  201-SHIPS00 was the best I could
    come up with for a mnemonic.
    
    Jamie

    
    Ticketmaster number for Wash. D.C.   (202) 432-7328
    RFK Stadium box office (202) 547-9077
    
    Sean

    Does anyone know the 800 number for Teletron? I tried 800-555-1212
    for info and they didn't have a listing.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Mike

I don't think Teletron exists anymore.  I think TicketPro is the new kid in
town.  I think the number is still the same from the old Teletron days:
800-382-8080 I think.

adam

ps. this number will not get you tickets to any event serviced by Ticketmaster.

    >>800-382-8080 I think.
    
    Thanks, Adam. That sounds like the number I was looking for.
    
    Mike

    
    >>800-382-8080
    
    Tried this number and got the following recording:
    
    "The 800 number you have reached has been disconnected. No further
    information about this number is available."

Heyah's da numbah... ...and then some.

Ticket Agencies & Numbers:
==========================
Ann Arbor, MI   TicketMaster    313-645-6666
Bay Area, CA    Bass            510-762-BASS
Binghamton, NY  TicketMaster    607-722-7272
Battle Creek MI TicketMaster    616-963-8080
Boston:         TicketMaster    617-931-2000
Boston:         TicketPro       800-828-7080
Colorado        TicketMaster    303-290-8497
Columbus, OH:   TicketMaster    614-431-3600
Cincinatti:     TicketMaster    513-749-4949
Detroit:        TicketMaster    313-645-6666
New York City:  TicketMaster    212-307-7171
Oregon          Fastixx         503-224-8499
Philadelphia:   TicketMaster    215-336-2000
Providence RI:  TicketMaster    401-331-2211
Southern CA     TicketMaster    278-TIXS (area codes: 619, 310, 213, 818)
Syracuse NY:    TicketMaster    315-472-0700
Washington DC   TicketMaster    410-481-7328, 202-432-7328
Washingtn state Ticketmaster    206 628-0888 

    
         can i like call the ann arbor, mi ticketmaster (or wherever) and
     charge tickets for local shows, like the dead at bg??? i figure if so
     there would be alot less traffic on these lines than the massachussetts
     number.
         also does anyone know if there will be any golden circle seats for
     the dead at the gahden???
    
                                                  ^dave_who_didn't_mo 
                                                  

    
     In the past, Ticketpro handled the Boston Garden shows.....

    re -.2
    
    Ticketmaster only handles certain shows at certain locations.  You
    can't call the local ticketmaster here in MA and expect to get tix to
    say....Buffalo or sumthin'.
    
    	Mike
    
    P.S.  Dave, I would also guess that Ann Arbor is a bit too far away for
    BG tix. :-)

    
          ...and ticketpro only has one main number so there goes that
      strategy. oh well, kelley's sporting goods in cranston, ri is not
      too far away from where i live, and probally holds the best chance
      at a wristband. so is the on-sale date really on the hotline (i
      know, why don't i call and find out, dammit!) or will it be like 
      in '91, where they announced it on the radio that wristbands are
      available at that instant, a few days before the on-sale date...
    
                                                          ^dave

.... it used to work like that:  I used to call NYC for tix to gratewoods
shows.  i'd always get through at 10:02 am or so and set great (!!) tickets.
then one day, i was doing this and they said can't do that any more.  it was
good while it lasted (7th row for CSN, 18th row center for Jerry, etc...)

    
      i was at emerald square mall in north attleboro recently and noticed
    there is a ticketpro outlet on the first floor. this is most likely
    where i'll try and snag a wristband from, being only about 20 mins.
    from where i dwell. so is aug. 28th a confirmed on-sale date or just
    speculation? if i remember correctly in the past they didn't announce
    anything until wristband distribution day, which will probally be
    wednesday the 25th???
    
                                                                ^dave

    Today's Globe sez that the on-sale date is Aug. 28.  I hope those mail
    orders come in soon.
    
    Jamie

    
    The reject_letter says tix go on sale at Ticketpro on 8/28.  Where
    is there a Ticketpro in southern and southwestern NH such as 
    Nashua/keene/concord/manchester ?
    
    sadly
    carol

    
      carol, there's a list in reply .9, though it is probally outdated.
     i see the one in n. attleboro, mass. isn't listed. 
    
                                                                   ^dave

    Does ticketpro only accept cash??
    
    dave getting concerned for some reason

As of 3/93 ... not sure if these are still valid ...

- dc

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    (617)931-3100
    (800)828-7080

    When I went to get Neil tickets, I went to the ticket agency in
    Northboro,  I'm not sure if this is Ticketpro or not.  But they would
    only accept cash.  No personal checks, no credit cards.
    
    :), danielle

    a friend had heard the rumor that wrist bands would be given out
    at 10:00 this am for the BG shows at tiketpro outlets. 
    
    i just got off the phone with a Doreen at the 800 TP # and while she
    couldn't confirm nor deny this, she did say they will be accepting 
    phone orders beginning at 9:00 this Sat.
    
    Andy

    the rumor proved to be true and the wrist bands were distributed
    in a random fashion and will be going by the lowest number on up.
    
    i got # 62 :^(
    
    Andy

    As I understand it, Andy, they go by random numbers picked on SAturday
    morning.  I've got number 13 for the Ticketpro in Burlington.  Got the
    last wristband.
    
    They started giving them out at 6:30 this morning.
    
    Bud

    Yo Bud, the guy giving these things out at the outlet said they'd be
    starting at 1 and working their way up from there. I called the TP
    office and they confirmed this.
    
    Andy

    Well, Andy, guess I could get lucky with number 13.
    
    Bud

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>    Well, Andy, guess I could get lucky with number 13.
 


buy the maximum amount mon!!!!!   

i still haven't heard, and i may be out of state this sat, but i'm gonna
try on the phones if i have no mail order luck.  if i get through on the
phones, i will order the MAX...

    
        snagged a wristband yesterday form emerald square mall. the system
      works like this: they had a large envelope filled with wristbands
      that were in a big pile, the numbers being all mixed up. they
      randomly pulled wristbands out and clipped them on the people
      in line. i was fifth in line when they initiated distribution
      at precisely 10:00 am. and recieved wb# 232199. they explained
      that on saturday morning ticketpro's main office will call them
      with the number for first in line. 
        fwiw, there were only about 15 people who got wristbands at 10:00
      am. after i got mine i looked around EMS for about half an hour and
      then checked back at the tp outlet. they still had what appeared to 
      be hundreds of wristbands left. i have a feeling people will be able
      to show up saturday morning and still be able to get a wristband. 
    
                                                              ^dave

    I just called the 800 # again and was told they'd be going order
    from # 1 on up. I'd hsve the ES people call the main line to make 
    sure which process will be used.
    
    Andy

    whatever the case & no matter how they do it, its a done deal.  If you
    have a low number (like Bud) hope they go in order.  If you've got a
    number like Dave I.'s, hope its random and they call a number slighlty
    lower than yours.
    
    This reminds me of the Who show I went to in '89.  I got a wristband
    and heard they would call out a number.  The ended up calling a number
    2 higher than mine, so I was essentially next-to-last in line.
    
    Still got tickets, but it was bummer after staying out all night in
    front of the ticketron!
    
    	Mike

    
       if that was the case (starting from 1) what's stopping me from
     tearing this wristband off and keep going back 'til i get a number
     to my liking? (providing they still have mega-wristbands left, which
     i don't doubt)....they are dishing out the numbers randomly there.
     so if i got this right the outlet you went to handed out wristbands
     starting with number one, two....so on??? if so obviously these 
     outlets are utilizing different techniques...is this legal???
    
         ps> i'll bet more of the little known outlets, like the Video
             store in smithfield, ri, have lotsa wristbands left....but
             what system are they using? 8^)
    
                                          ^dave_with_a_TOSSin'_stomach
    
                                TOSS(tm) = ticket outlet stress syndrome!
    

    Dave, they had a large envelope and were handing the wrist bands 
    out grab bag style.
    
    Andy

    
        ohhhhh....what to do. should i trash this wristband and try for
     a lower number? i just can't see ticketpro operating that way. it's
     too easy for for people to scam. you get a high number, just rip it
     off and go back for another one a little while later. surely they 
     must have thought of this. i think i'll hold the booth lady to her
     word that it is a lottery and the secret number will be announced
     saturday morning. if i'm wrong i'll just skip out and head to the
     outdoor concert i'm going to that day featuring one of my favorite
     bands and forget the whole mess.
    
                                                               ^dave

    Dave,
    
    where is the ticketpro outlet in Emerald Mall?
    
    thanks
    
    dave

    RE: .45
    
    sell the wristband !!!
    
    just kidding just kidding JUST kidding ... geez guys - liten up in here
    
    

    >    just kidding just kidding JUST kidding ... geez guys - liten up in here
    
    
    Oh sure, liten up, YOU got tickets!  We don't.  :^)
    
    :^(
    
    dave

From my experience, they use the last 2 or 3 digits of the wristband, and, on
the day they are given out, you have as much a chance of being first on line as
anyone else.  The number TicketPro calls in on Sat morning could be anything.

I stopped into the TicketPro outlet in Framingham (Premiere Video, next to
Herbie's Ice Cream near the Edgell Rd/Rt. 30 intersection) and they were all
out of wristbands.  He said the service charge will be $3.25 per ticket ($0.50
less than ticketbastard).  I may just show up there Sat morning without a
wristband (since it's so close to home :-)) and see what happens.

adam

    
    I second that emotion - lighten up!  And I don't have Boston tix, btw.
    Stressing out about it is not gonna change the policy one bit.  You
    have your bracelet, now just hope that they start with your number!
    
    Good luck to all these moss-heads :-)
    
    
    
    

    Yeah, but I haven't been to a show in 2 years!!  And I'm trying to
    install OBJECTworks on an Ultrix machine!!  I hate Ultrix.
    
    dave perhaps_I_should_blow_off_tomorrow_and_go_to_the_beach

    
          re: dave irons
    
              the ticketpro at the emerald square mall is on the first floor
          at the information booth in the middle of the isle (right at the
          base of the stairs, about 50 yards down from EMS. as an
          alternative there's the video place in smithfield, don't know
          exactly where it is, but you can get that info from the flyer
          on the desk at the emerald square mall ticketpro. good luck.
    
              btw, tickets go on sale at 9 am. i heard there is an 8 tix
           max, anyone know fer sure?
                                                               ^dave 
    
               
              

    Thanks dave
    
    Can't decide where I should try my luck: at the mall or phoning?  I can
    do credit card easier than cash.  My friend (who also got shut-out) is
    trying the outlet, so I guess I'll do phone.  50-50 chance.  That's the
    way  we figured when we mailordered!  Lost that gamble.
    
    dave

    Wow!  Just thought of this: if I had a cellular phone, I could try the
    800# while I wait in line for tix at a ticketpro office!!
    
    dave

>    Wow!  Just thought of this: if I had a cellular phone, I could try the
>    800# while I wait in line for tix at a ticketpro office!!
    
         i actually saw somebody doing this while waiting in line for
     stones tickets during the steel wheels tour 8^)

                                                        ^dave

re: cellular while in line

I can't begin to imagine the bill one would rack up while waiting on
hold!!!  It's probably cheaper to succumb to the scalpers...  ;-)

But it's a nice status symbol ;^)

    
    Does somebody have a number for a ticket office selling 
    BG tickets on saturday??? Thanks in advance.......
    			
    				Later,
    	  			    Jim

GD tix on sale at 9am, Saturday via TicketPro Charge by phone:

    800-828-7080
    617-931-3100
    
For the devout MOSS'rs:  I don't know if the numbers reach the same office,
or if the calls get queued with the same priority, etc.

GOOD LUCK!!!

- jeff

    re: GD tix on sale at 9am, Saturday via TicketPro Charge by phone:
    
    	Thanks hope I get through........

option to consider:



- dial in from out-of-state;  your changes are better, or so i've heard.  this
could be folklore for all i know.

    I am from outta state: RI.  Do you mean dial the 617 number from outta
    state or the 800 number?
    
    Hope the folklore is true!
    
    dave
    

    Does anyone know if the Ticketpro charge line takes AMerican Express?

	617 number.

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>
>    Does anyone know if the Ticketpro charge line takes AMerican Express?
    
    YUP!

    Does anyone know the status of JGB tix at the Centrum?  I have been out
    of town this past weekend and haven't been able to get tickets...Does
    it look like it'll sell out?  There was a lot of promotion of it on
    Boston radio stations the past couple of weeks...
    
    :), danielle

There was quite a bit of promotion on the radio.  I called at 10am Saturday
and had no problem getting floor seats by 10:02.  I have no idea if it sold
out by now, though...but I'd be curious to hear...

tim

>    Does anyone know the status of JGB tix at the Centrum?

if it's not sold out yet (which i doubt it is), i'll probably be stopping by
the centrum box office on wednesday and would be happy to pick up tickets for
people who would like to avoid the ticketbastard charges

- rich

I was 3rd in line at a local Ticketmaster sat a.m., and all they 
could pull out was a pair about 1/2 way back, a few rows up from 
the floor.  No good floor seats.  I told em no thanks out of principal,
and am gonna try the box office or the TM later when they release 
better seats.   What a scam.... :-/

Ken

>What a scam.... :-/

No kidding.  I also understand that TicketPro just sold out to TicketShafter.

Sigh.

	dave

Maybe the Gov't will slap an anti-SHAFT suit on TicketShafter!

:-)

> Maybe the Gov't will slap an anti-SHAFT suit on TicketShafter!

Who do I call to PROD 'em into suin'... ?

;-)

I won't touch this one with a ten-foot POLE ....

	I'm sure we all have a fair idea of who owns Ticketdink!

    
The new message on the hotline as of Jan. 27 has the following
ticket outlet on sale dates:

Rosemont, IL:   Feb. 12
Richfield, OH:  Feb. 19
Nassau, NY:     Feb. 19
Atlanta, GA:    Feb. 26
Orlando, FL:    To be announced
Miami, FL:      Mar. 5

    
    According to Steve Marcus, Orlando will go on sale March 5th as well. 
    The hotline will be updated today.
    

    A friend of mine suggested a way of getting through to TicketMaster
    when the line is always tied up with popular shows.  Basically,
    he told me, TicketMaster has 75 lines, done line dail up modem
    lines on a search pattern.  Everybody, of course, is trying to 
    dial the main number, but all the rest are sequential.  So instead
    of dialing xxx-2000 try 2001, 2002, ... through 74 I would 
    guess.  Makes a lot of sense actually, since you know they
    have to have a lot of lines.  He said he used this to get Pink Floyd
    tickets.  And then he said he had an extra and wanted to know
    if I was interested.  Wasn't really thinking about it, but hey,
    why not.
    
    PeterT
    

re: -.1

Hey, it works!  

I just got through to 617-931-2072 but it still puts you in the queue with
everyone else... 

Now if there was a way to get through that queue... :-)

- jeff

<i got this off of the PhishNet>

PEARL JAM COMPLAINS TICKET AGENCY PUT PRESSURE ON PROMOTERS  5/27/94

BY CHUCK PHILIPS
Special to the Los Angeles Times

In a memorandum to the U.S. Justice Department, the rock band Pearl Jam has
complained that Los Angeles-based Ticketmaster successfully pressured
promoters to boycott the band's low-cost concert tour this summer.

Lawyers for the Seattle-based band -- the biggest selling rock group in the
country -- made the complaint on May 6 in a memo to the department's
antitrust division. The memo accused Ticketmaster -- the world's largest
ticket agency -- of exercising a monopoly over ticket distribution in this
country and using that influence to keep promoters from booking the Pearl Jam
tour.

The memorandum, filed by Sullivan & Cromwell, a prominent New York law firm,
said Ticketmaster has exclusive arrangements with all important concert
venues in the country and uses these arrangements to ''cement control over
the distribution of tickets to concerts.''

The Justice Department has begun an evaluation of the memo, and sent three
officials from Washington to Los Angeles on Tuesday to interview music
business figures, sources said.

Such an evaluation is in some measure a standard response to such a
complaint. It is preliminary to a decision on whether to launch an
investigation.

A spokeswoman for the Justice Department declined comment. Representatives
for Pearl Jam also did not comment.

In a letter to the Los Angeles Times, Ticketmaster vice president Ned S.
Goldstein said ''Ticketmaster operates fully and squarely within the
parameters of all applicable laws.''

Sales of Pearl Jam's last two albums together exceeded $137 million.
Ticketmaster, which is privately held, last year reportedly earned about $200
million in service and sponsorship fees on $1.3 billion in sales of tickets
to concert and sporting events.

The Pearl Jam memorandum is likely to focus new attention on a growing furor
over skyrocketing concert ticket prices and service fees, and the
arrangements among managers, promoters and service companies that underlie
pricing decisions.

Ticketmaster collects a phone service fee for tickets to rock and pop
concerts, typically $6 to $8 per ticket, although the agency's fee for $350
tickets for Barbra Streisand shows amounted to $18 in some cities.
Ticketmaster pays a portion of the fees to maintain exclusive long-term
contracts with the owners of the largest concert venues. In addition,
Ticketmaster also pays a portion to some promoters, managers, agents and
artists.

In March, Pearl Jam sent letters to promoters vowing to perform concerts this
summer only at venues that charged $18 for a ticket and no more than $1.80
for service or handling charges. A representative of the band said Pearl Jam
was seeking to keep prices in the range of their young fans.

But sources in the concert industry said the group encountered immediate
resistance from Ticketmaster and members of the North American Concert
Promoters Association, a McLean, Va.-based group that represents the nation's
largest promoters.

In two letters obtained by The Times, Ben Liss, the executive director of the
association, warned promoters that if they booked Pearl Jam under the band's
conditions, they could face possible lawsuits.

Ticketmaster ''views the Pearl Jam issue as an all or nothing proposition,''
Liss wrote in one of his letters on March 24. Ticketmaster chief executive
Fred Rosen ''has indicated that he intends to take a very strong stand on
this issue to protect Ticketmaster's existing contracts with promoters and
facilities and, further, (Ticketmaster) will use all available remedies to
protect itself from outside third parties that attempt to interfere with
those existing contracts.''

Liss did not return phone calls seeking comment.

After being turned down by virtually every major promoter in the country for
bookings, Pearl Jam postponed its summer tour.

I was gonna say hear! hear!  but 

>After being turned down by virtually every major promoter in the country for
>bookings, Pearl Jam postponed its summer tour.

So, so far, TicketMaster has won.  Hopefully something good will come from
this - it (the ticket fees and virtual monopoly) is really getting out of hand!

/Ken

    
    I hear you, Ken.  But this is a very cool stand to take - hoping
    this will make things better in the long run.  A friend of mine in 
    Milwaukee has had similat complaints w/Buffet tickets and she was 
    wishing he woudl take a stand - her reasoning is that the bands all
    know this is going on and if they took a stand, it would change things.
    
    

>the bands all
>    know this is going on and if they took a stand, it would change things.
 
but it will probably take a lot of bands taking a stand to change things.   
    
even if only PJ does, maybe the FTC can get on their case for Anti-Trust
violations

- rich

    >>know this is going on and if they took a stand
    
    Where's Mother Abigail when you need her.  ;^)

    Yeah! :-)  :-)  I'm glad Pearl Jam is doing this...

    me too, I went home after see'n that and put there VS cd in the player
    and gave it a listen (for the 1st time ! its been there for 6 months)
    

    Who all is gonna play the phone game saturday and try to rustle up 
    rfk tickets?

      since Mr. Leblanc brought it up.....can I go to any Ticketshafter(tm)
    to get RFK tix or is there some special number I have to call in the 
    D.C. (not to be confused with DC) area....?
    
                  :-) daveB

    Mr Benjamin see note.21 for the Ticketshaft number in the D.C. area...

    
    I'll be on the phone tomorrow.....  
    
    Ms. MJ

=====> an exerpt from...

"PEARL JAM TAKES A SWING AT TICKETMASTER"
From the Los Angeles Times May 31, 1994

In March, Pearl Jam sent letters to promoters vowing to perform concerts this
summer only at venues that charged $18 for a ticket and no more than $1.80
for service charges.  A representative of the band said Pearl Jam was seeking
to keep prices in the range of their young fans.  But people in the concert
industry said the group encountered immediate resistance from Ticketmaster
and members of the North American Concert Promoters Association, A McClean,
Va.-based group that represents the nation's largest promoters.

In two letters obtained by the Los Angeles Times, Ben Liss, the executive
director of the association, warned promoters that if they booked Pearl Jam
under the band's conditions, they could face possible lawsuits.  After being
turned down by virtually every major promoter in the country for bookings,
Pearl Jam postponed its summer tour.  

In April, Ticketmaster was accused of creating an illegal monopoly on ticket
sales and violating a Florida law against ticket scalping.  A class-action
suit alleges the ticket company violated federal antitrust laws through
exclusive sales agreements.  Nine other defendants - the 4 Miami-area sports
teams and promoters - were also named in the lawsuit.  A Ticketmaster
spokesman said the company complies with all regulations.

    
    Talking w/wristband dispenser at ticket outlet this morning.  he said
    ticket price is 32 dollars for ticket (includes $2 parking charge) but
    ticketshafter charge is ONLY $3.50.  maybe Pearl Jam shook them up a
    bit.
    
    	Pete

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            In one of the busiest seasons ever for concerts, the hot young
    band Pearl Jam is on the sidelines because of a dispute over ticket
    prices with the nation's biggest ticket broker.
            The U.S. Justice Department began an investigation into
    possible
    anti-competitive actions in the concert industry after the band's
    lawyers filed a complaint last month.
            The battle between rockers and Ticketmaster Corp., a
    computerized ticket network that has grown to dominate how tickets
    are bought and sold nationwide, could eventually affect concert
    ticket prices across the country.
            Seattle-based Pearl Jam sought to book a concert tour this
    summer to capitalize on the success of the 8 million-selling album,
    ``Vs.'' The band wanted to keep concert tickets at $18 apiece.
            ``We know we can go into Madison Square Garden and sell it out
    at $50 a ticket, but we would alienate a lot of our fans,'' said
    Kelly Curtis, the band's manager.
            Pearl Jam also wanted to keep service charges on the tickets to
    no more than $1.80. Ticketmaster refused, Curtis said.
            Since the demise of chief competitor Ticketron three years ago,
    Los Angeles-based Ticketmaster has arranged for ticket sales at the
    overwhelming majority of the nation's concert arenas. It has
    exclusivity deals with many arenas and promoters.
            Ticketmaster charges service fees ranging from $4 to $15 on top
    of ticket prices, according to the complaint filed with the Justice
    Department.
            ``There should be some kind of fairness to it,'' Curtis said.
    ``If you have a low ticket price, you should have a low service
    charge. They're not accountable to anyone and it's frustrating.
    They have this kind of attitude of, `If you don't like it, then go
    someplace else.' And they know there is nowhere else to go.'''
            The band found it impossible to book a tour without the
    cooperation of Ticketmaster. In its complaint, Pearl Jam alleged
    that Ticketmaster organized a boycott of the band with concert
    promoters.
            Ticketmaster said Pearl Jam has no right to determine what it
    charges for its service.
            Ticketmaster spokesman Larry Solters said Pearl Jam is using
    the
    service charge issue as a smokescreen for the band's own greed. He
    said Pearl Jam tried to dictate merchandising deals with promoters
    to give the band more money than the industry standard. Pearl Jam
    also refused to compromise with the company, he said.
            Meanwhile, a group of concertgoers in Seattle filed a lawsuit
    Wednesday against Ticketmaster, charging it with antitrust
    violations.
            Samantha Hazzard, Susan Robins and Lila Hurwitz charged that
    TicketMaster has a monopoly that causes unfairly high ticket prices
    in Washington and Oregon.
            The lawsuit also names the North American Concert Promoters
    Association. The fans said large portions of the service charges
    are ``paybacks'' to arena owners and promoters.
            A spokesman for the promoters would not comment.
            Ned Goldstein, counsel for Ticketmaster, said ``the whole thing
    is a PR move to sell CDs.''
            Concert prices have skyrocketed in general this summer, led by
    tickets of more than $100 to shows by the Eagles and Barbra
    Streisand.
            Some other artists have come to Pearl Jam's support. Pamela
    Lewis, the manager for Garth Brooks, said fans blame the artist if
    ticket prices are too high. Brooks tries to keep his tickets under
    $20, she said.
            ``Wouldn't it be great for the industry if a concertgoer could
    go to several concerts -- instead of just one concert that wipes out
    their entire entertainment budget?'' Lewis said.
    

>            Meanwhile, a group of concertgoers in Seattle filed a lawsuit
>    Wednesday against Ticketmaster, charging it with antitrust
>    violations.

cool!

so, can we get everyone who has ever been screwed by ticketmaster to be
listed as co-plaintiffs?

- rich

    
    	I support Pearl Jam and their efforts 101%.
    
    	It is time for Ticketmaster to feel the threat of competition.
    
    	Profit for a ticket agent should be held at 10% or lower per 
    	purchase, end of story!!!!!!  What happened to scalping laws????
    
    	I see future business opportunities in the ticket business fer
    	sure.

>  <<< Note 26.94 by AKOCOA::SMITH_D "Anybody really know what time it is?" >>>

>What happened to scalping laws????

from 26.90:

>"PEARL JAM TAKES A SWING AT TICKETMASTER"
>From the Los Angeles Times May 31, 1994

>In April, Ticketmaster was accused of creating an illegal monopoly on ticket
>sales and violating a Florida law against ticket scalping.

this is what i really like - they're being accused of both violating
anti-trust laws AND anti-scalping laws.  hopefully something will come from
at least one of those approaches.

most outrageous surcharge that i've heard of so far:  for some show (don't
remember what) at a club in providence.  $9 ticket.  surcharge for purchasing
a single ticket through ticketmaster: $5.  55% of the face value!!!
outrageous...

- rich

    
    I got a chuckle in re-reading that note....
    
    >Ticketmaster said Pearl Jam has no right to determine what
    >it charges for its service.
    
    HAHAHA!!  Ummmm, isn't that a kinda hypocritical type statement??? 
    
    >Ticketmaster spokesman Larry Solters said Pearl Jam is using
    > the service charge issue as a smokescreen for the band's own greed. He
    
    HAHAHAHA!!!!
    
    I really think TM better get themselves some new spokespeople
    before they make more of an ass out of themselves.
    
    >Ned Goldstein, counsel for Ticketmaster, said ``the whole
    >thing is a PR move to sell CDs.''
    
    HA!  and a new lawyer too!!!!!

    funny is right, just because some1 gos to a concert doesn't mean they
    will buy a T-shirt and PJ cds were selling by the millions way before
    this started....I see a lot of anti-trust issues with Ticketmaster and
    I do hope a lot of them come to the surface (like how these out-of-state
    ticket places seem to have tickets before Ticketmaster sells them ?!?)
    
    Chris

anyone a lawyer in here??  we could file a class-action against TM!



the high price of tix is one reason why don't really go anymore.  by the time
i add up tickets, food, gas, pahking, etc, for deb and i, it comes out to
nearly $100.00 or so.  for $100.00, i can go see many many good acts in bars
around the boston area...  just seems wasteful at this point...  for the
dead tix, what was the svc charge for 4 tix?  i think it was $20 or so!!!

    I was watching CNN last nite and it looks like the class-action suit
    has picked up a few more states and Mass was one of them, I think the
    count of states is now at 8.....looks like PJ started a snowball into a
    avalanche....thanks PJ for opening some eyes !

	service charge for the latest dead tix was 3.50 each.
	so for four it was $14.
	but why not a 1-time svc charge of 3.50 instead of per ticket,
	that's what i don't understand.
	
	jay

    
    	Not too mention that there's probably a contractual charge absorbed
    	within the ticket flat ticket charge.  
    

    What is the outlet date for the gaaahden shows......could only swing
    cash for 4 of the 6 at the time and would like tues and weds if
    possible..thanks
    chris

    i was just informed that wristbands will be given out tomorrow at
    2pm...i don't know if this is for all shafter outlets or just the 
    marlboro-framingham area.......

    
    	The ticketshafter on sale date for the Nov. 29, 30, Dec 1 shows
    at McNichols Arena is this Monday Oct. 31st, Happy Halloween ! They
    go on sale at all 10:00 AM, with the lottery at 9:00 AM.
    
    TL

    According to unconfirmed report the date for Ticket Masters
    Philadlephia is 2/18/95, good luck. 

    >>According to unconfirmed report the date for Ticket Masters
    >>Philadlephia is 2/18/95, good luck.
    
    
    Yeah that's what the hotline says so hopefully NE1 that mail ordered
    will find out soon if they gotta do the line/call thing for TM.
    

On sale dates, from the hotline:

Philly - Feb. 18
Charlotte - Feb. 18
Atlanta - Feb. 25

They better get the Philly tix back before the 18th!  I got shafted big time
last year when I got rejected and the envelope arrived after the on-sale date
for MSG and of course they were completely sold out by then!

I also wish they'd stagger the on-sale dates so there's only one city per
on-sale date!

adam

    
    Does anyone have any new information about Highgate tickets - I know
    they are to go on sale on saturday but are we to do the bracelet thing
    again?  Speculation on $$ ??
    
    

I was going to ask the same thing.....

Anyone know?

    
    From various sources it looks like ticketmaster places like (in the
    nashua area) Coconuts/filenes and there are supposedly no wristbands
    - just get on line in plenty of time for the opening shot ....errr...
    time of 9 am. any idea how much anyone???
    
    

>>    time of 9 am. any idea how much anyone???
    
yea, too much.

bob

I called ticketmaster and they confirmed no wristbands for the dead.  They
are aware of the phish conflict but they say Dead tix are on sale at 9 am
and Phish tix on sale at 10.  This says nothing about the ticket outlets
who may refuse to open at 9 am (I guess it's their right, maybe not if
they're under contract to ticketshafter?).  As for the lines of fans lining
up early in the morning, they said there will be separate lines so I don't
have anything to worry about.

yeah right.

adam

    DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF THEY ARE DOING OUT OF STATE VISA ORDERS FOR
    VERMONT ?
    

lower case please, my ears hurt :-)

Anyway, do you mean charging by phone from out of state? As far as I know, 
that's ok for Highgate.

jeff

    My friend told me that ticketmaster in vermont are not accepting any
    out of state visa orders and they are the only ones selling them.
    
    Can anyone verify this for me, please ?
    
    kevin

    if it is in the globe kevin it should be NE wide
    the only way to pay for a phone order is BY visa so i can't see them
    limiting the orders to vt residents for visa

    on sale date for albany is sat 5/20 9:00 in pittsfield - limit 2 tix
    per show - 33.25 per tix includes service charge - NO wrist bands