Conference rdvax::grateful

I want to see this but I seem to remember something about it coming to Boston
on the 25th, anyone seen it around here?

    
    re: Is it in Boston yet?
    
    I doubt it.  It hasn't even hit wide release in NYC yet.  It's just at
    one theater.
    
    

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>    
>    re: Is it in Boston yet?
>    
>>    I doubt it.  It hasn't even hit wide release in NYC yet.  It's just at
>>   one theater.

According to the ad I saw on TV, it is in "limited preview" at a few choice
theaters, and will be in general release on the 25th or 26th.

PS. A&E just showed "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex.." (twice
in one night!)

adam_who_likes_Woody_Allen_and_may_actually_see_this

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>>    happens to her life once she begins her treatments with Dr. Yang.
>>    I laughed through this entire movie..perfect escapism!
  
Phyllis,  I read this morning that the man who played Dr. Yang 
passed away in LA ....

:(
bob  
    

    
    :-(
    
    Very sad, indeed.  
    
    

    This movie is still one of my favorites!  Camelot, King Arthur; one
    land, one king!  Merlin the sorcerer and the magical Dragons Breath!
    The Lady of the Lake who keeps Excalabur.  Battle scenes with knights.
    The round table.  Gueniveve (sp).  The Holy Grail, searched for by
    the medival knights.  This movie has really made the Dark Ages into 
    one great story.  You should be able to rent it from your favorite
    video store.  
    
    --Cathleen

    Re: -1
    
    Oops, I think I spelled the title of the movie wrong, twice :-}
    
    First I spelled it this way, Excalebur, then I spelled it this way,
    Excalabur, but I really think it's spelled like this, Excalibur.
    
    Ha, sorry about the confusion (if any).
    
    --Cathleen

    
    
    I finally got a chance to see a couple of movies that have been on my
    movie list for months.  (One for over a year!)
    
    Cinema Paradiso - I'm sure most of you have seen this by now, but if
    you haven't - GO!  I can't remember ever seeing a more beautiful film.
    
    Goodfellas - I thought this was brilliant.. Scorcese's really a genius
    and the acting was fantastic.  It is VERY violent, though.
    
    Godfather III - Well.. I liked it, but it's nowhere near as good as I &
    II.  It's worth seeing if you like the saga cause it's still
    interesting to see what happens to them, but I found myself wondering
    what time it was more than once.  Coppola's daughter was terrible, and
    I don't like the way Connie was written at all.  Andy Garcia did a
    great job.
    
    Steve Martin's got a new movie that opens today that looks like it
    could be hysterical.. LA Story I think it's called.  Has anyone heard
    anything about Queens Logic or Rosencrantz & Guilderstern are Dead?
    
    I love the movies! :-)
    
    

    
    1990 Oscar Nominations for Best Movie:
    
    Awakenings
    Dances with Wolves
    Godfather III
    Ghost
    Goodfellas
    
    
    Anybody have the list of actors, directors, etc?  This is all I've
    got.
    
    I hope Dances with Wolves wins.  As always, commercialism wins out.. I
    think Godfather III is there just on the merits of the "saga" and Ghost
    just because it was the top grossing movie.  I did love Ghost, but best
    movie??? I hope the actor nominees are closer to the mark.  
    
    

    
    I have seen all of the above movies and if Dances with Wolves does not
    win I will be seriously dissapointed.  It was an incrediable movie and
    quite a courageous effort as Kevin's producing debut.
    
    -Jerry

    
    Me too and I agree.  I hope he was nominated as best director.  I think
    Whoopi Goldberg was nominated for best actress in Ghost but I'm not
    positive.  I hope Angelica Huston was nominated for the Grifters, and
    Jeremy Irons for Reversal of Fortune.  Was Pretty Woman 1990?  If so,
    Julia Roberts will probably be nominated.
    
    

    
    Here's some more:
    
    Best Actress:
    
    Kathy Bates, Misery
    Angelica Huston, The Grifters
    Julia Roberts, Pretty Woman
    Meryl Streep, Postcards from the Edge
    Joanne Woodward, Mr. & Mrs. Bridge
    
    Disclaimer:  All I heard were the actress names, I filled in the movies
    so they might be wrong but they're probably right.
    
    Kevin Costner received a best actor nomination.   Dances with Wolves
    received 12 nominations!
    
    I want the whole list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    :-)
    
    

    
    
    Here's a more complete list.  I actually had to buy an afternoon
    edition of the Daily News. :-)
    
    Best Picture:	Awakenings
    			Dances With Wolves
    			Ghost
    			The Godfather Part III
    			GoodFellas
    
    Best Actor:		Kevin Costner, Dances With Wolves
    			Robert De Niro, Awakenings
    			Gerard Depardieu, Cyrano de Bergerac
    			Richard Harris, The Field
    			Jeremy Irons, Reversal of Fortune
    
    Best Actress:	Kathy Bates, Misery
    			Angelica Huston, The Grifters
    			Julia Roberts, Pretty Woman
    			Meryl Streep, Postcards From the Edge
    			Joanne Woodward, Mr. & Mrs. Bridge
    
    Best Supporting
    Actor:		Bruce Davison, Longtime Companion
    			Andy Garcia, The Godfather Part III
    			Graham Greene, Dances With Wolves
    			Al Pacino, Dick Tracy
    			Joe Pesci, GoodFellas
    
    Best Supporting
    Actress:		Annette Bening, The Grifters
    			Lorraine Bracco, GoodFellas
    			Whoopi Goldberg, Ghost
    			Diane Ladd, Wild at Heart
    			Mary McDonnell, Dances With Wolves
    
    Best Director:	Kevin Costner, Dances With Wolves
    			Francis Ford Coppola, The Godfather Part III
    			Martin Scorcese, GoodFellas
    			Stephen Frears, The Grifters
    			Barbet Schroeder, Reversal of Fortune
    
    Best Original 
    Screenplay:		Woody Allen, Alice
    			Barry Levinson, Avalon
    			Bruce Joel Rubin, Ghost
    			Peter Weir, Green Card
    			Whit Stillman, Metropolitan
    
    Best Adapted
    Screenplay:		Steven Zaillian, Awakenings
    			Michael Blake, Dances With Wolves
    			Nicholas Pileggi & Martin Scorcese, GoodFellas
    			Donald Westlake, The Grifters
    			Nicholas Kazan, Reversal of Fortune
    
    Best Foreign
    Film:		Cyrano de Bergerac, France
    			Journey of Hope, Switzerland
    			Ju Dou, China
    			The Nasty Girl, Germany
    			Open Doors, Italy
    
    
    My picks:	Picture - Dances w/Wolves
    		Actor - DeNiro
    		Actress - Huston
    		Supporting Actor - Greene
    		Supporting Actress - Bening
    		Director - Costner
    

    
    When are the awards on?
    
    -Jerry_who_has_not_paid_much_attention_to_the_tube_lately
    
    (I'd rather make tapes:-))

    
    I don't know.  Probaby March or April.
    
    Now that I think about it... I think I was at a show that night last
    year and taped them.  
    
    

Next time I go to the video store to rent a movie, will you come with my
Phyllis ??????

  I saw Sex, Lies, and Videotapes last night on cable.
A very strange film, but all in all a good film. It left me with 
a cold feeling inside, even thou it seemed to have a happy ending,
I didn't get the impression that the character's were all that happy.

  I really don't know how to explain the feeling the film gave me. The
last time I felt this way was after watching The Hunger, starring David 
Bowie, I felt very cold and empty. It's the same with SL&V. Strange....

 Did anyone else see this film and if so how did you feel about it.


Shawn

    re .-1
    
    I wanted to watch it (on Showtime's free preview weekend), but on the
    way up the dial I came across a Rocky & Bullwinkle special on ch. 44
    (PBS)!  It was pretty good, although they didn't show complete clips. 
    Anyone know when it's being re-broadcast (I missed the first half
    hour)?
    
    Jamie

We watched Born On The Fourth Of July the other night.

Definitely an intense movie. Well worth seeing. You might not feel real good 
about parts of the psyche of our country when its over.


Geoff

    
    We have to remember though, Geoff.. no matter how painful and
    difficult..  We have to remember not to make the same mistakes twice..
    .. and I think we have learned that lesson.
    
    Man that movie sure opened old wounds though... maybe they can heal
    now...
    
    mary

    I saw Sex,Lies, and Videotapes....not bad but if you wanna see a
    realllly strange flick see The Cook,The Thief ..His Wife ..Her Lover
    oooooooo sooooo strange but not bad.
    
    rich

    I saw Woody Allen's new film, 'Alice' yesterday.  I think it's
    absolutely brilliant, and I strongly recommend you drop whatever you're
    doing right now and go see it (especially if it's at a bargain matinee,
    like me).
    
    It's just hilarious, especially the ending.  Allen doesn't appear in
    the film, and he makes some unusual cinematic moves (at least, for him)
    but I REALLY liked it.  
    
    Instead of his traditional underlying Jewish jokes, this film has a lot
    of the same kind of jabs at Catholics - and as a Catholic, I thought it
    was absolutely hysterical.  Go see it!
    
    

I just rented two videos that are both very good and *should* be seen by
everyone.

the first is "The Killing Fields". This is about a journalist for the NYT and
his Cambodian assistant. The setting is Nixon's secret war in Cambodia
and the subsequent takeover and genocide by the Khmer Rouge (sp?). It is a
very difficult movie, often very graphic in portraying the atrocities that
went on. I think it was an excellent film, that everyone should see. In the 
US you see very little of that ugly segment of the mankind's history - perhaps
because the Cambodians culture and history is so foreign to our own. The scary
part is that the Khmer Rouge (which was deposed a few years ago by an invasion
by Viet Nam) is sitting on the Thai/Cambodia border with 35,000 troops waiting
for their chance to regain power. These people make the Iraqis seem like a 
junior league. And guess what, they are being partially funded by the good ole
US of A.

the second is "Swimming to Cambodia". The entire film is a monologue by Spalding
Grey, an actor in the Killing Fields. When I first heard this I thought it must
be incredibly boring, but it turned out to be *very* funny and highly 
entertaining. He also fills in a few historical items about Cambodia that help
put the events in the first film in some perspective.

re:  The Cook, the lover....

Definately different!  I enjoyed the ending....not a bad flick.

Last night I watched - LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN

Weird and violent is about all I'll say at this point...


bob

    
    All these great movies!  The Killing Fields WAS incredible.  I saw it
    in the movies at about the same time I saw The Falcon & the Snowman.  I
    remember afterwards wanting very much to see a comedy.  
    
    I went to see Once Around this past weekend.  I thought it was okay..
    nothing special.  I'd wait for video.. Holly Hunter's accent was very 
    overdone.
    
    I can't wait to see the Doors.  I have several friends who went opening
    night and loved it.
    
    I also saw Cyrano Debergerac last week and loved it!  Gerard Dipardieu
    was great (who taught these French how to spell? ;-)).
    
    

    
    Whelp, I saw the Doors movie on Saturday nite and I thought it was very
    well done.  They covered the material fairly accurately.  There was a
    disappointing factor in the movie for me.  The movie showed how
    Morrison eventually destroyed himself.  I thought that they could of
    shown some of the brillant showz he put on.  The movie kinda left you
    with the feeling that he was always messed up on stage and put on a
    poor show.  This was not true.  I think the focus of the movie was on
    how he destroyed himself so that is why they might of left these scenes
    out.  Personally I think it was the audience's desire for the "lizard
    king" that pushed him so far off the edge.  IMHO the man was a genius -
    it is too bad his musical career ended so early.
    
    Happy Chesse-
    Jerry

Well I went to see the Doors this weekend .... I really liked it but then 
again I have always been interested by the group and thier music - and yes,
Jim Morrison and his antics (I am a red blooded American female in the right
age-range afterall :-)

So, if you are (or were ever) into the Doors and especially if you have read
anything about them it's a good movie to see.  It's been many years since
I read "No One Here Gets Out Alive" but I was remembering all kinds of things
from there while watching the film.  I don't think there were any real
suprises (for me) in the movie but for those who haven't read or heard
anything about the Doors it is full of information and insight.

The movie portrayed Morrison slightly different than the book with regards to
his shamanistic 'powers'. At least from my memory I cannot recall so much being
placed in shamanism - but then again I was young when I read it and didn't
necessarily understand that completely. Was that a focus that I don't remember?
If you let it, the movie will convince you that he had Native American spirits
in/with him, I think it was a definite main focus of the movie.

Interestingly I started Mickey Hart's book Friday and had read through the
part about shamans before I saw the movie Saturday.  Between the book and the
movie my curiousity has been sparked and I expect to pay a visit to the
Worcester library very soon - like tomorrow - to get a few books on the 
subject.

Also, who saw Robby Krieger (sp?) on Letterman last week (Thursday or Friday 
night)?  He said he was in the movie briefly but I didn't spot him.  According
to him, he "tripped" ... judging from his actions on Letterman I don't know
whether to take that literally or not.  :-)

Lisa

    My son (a big Doors and Morrison fan from way back) and his girlfriend 
    saw the movie this weekend and they loved it too.
    
    mary

I read somewhere that Oliver Stone used to be a Doors fanatic, and purposely
emulated Jim Morrison for a while ....

- Dave

I rented "The Dead Pool" -- a Dirty Harry movie (played by Clint Eastwood).  Has
to be the lamest Dirty Harry movie put out by a long shot, IMO ...

Anyone see that new Clint film, the Rookie (??)  ?

One more thing.  That movie "The Cook, His Wife, etc..." was originally X-rated.
I was listening to NPR a while back and they had a feature on this movie and
another movie title Wild Orchid.  Both of these were re-worked so they'd fit
the "R" rating approval ...  the producers of these movies was pretty bent
about the whole rating business...

I just saw Wired on TV this weekend, first time I ever saw it.  I didn't like it 
much, not because of the movie, but because it depressed me so.  I was 
mentioning it at work and it turns out the woman next to me went to school with 
John Belushi from 1st grade on.  She hated the movie as according to her it 
did not portray him accurately at ALL.  Seems like his brother would have 
guanunteed that though.

She said he was one of the kindest and nicest people she had ever met the old
give you the shirt off his back type, and was Always funny in all situations.

Also, did you read in the Sunday insert that goes everywhere where Woody Allen
was talkiong about his relationship with his wife (I just spaced her name ;-))?
Nice article, but boy does he sound like a pain, brilliant and funny, but a pain.

john

    
    The Cook, etc. did not cut out scenes and so was unrated (since it
    didn't want the x)
    
    

          <<< Note 102.33 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >>>
>    The Cook, etc. did not cut out scenes and so was unrated (since it
>    didn't want the x)
 

yeah,  that one and "harry and june" or whatever it was...weren't those
2 the first to come out under the new rating of ??

?
bob
   
    

    
    Henry & June.  NC-17.  I think The Cook.. was before that rating but
    I'm not sure.
    
    

re:      <<< Note 102.34 by LANDO::HAPGOOD "Leroy says, 'keep on rockin'" >>>
    

>yeah,  that one and "harry and june" or whatever it was...weren't those
>2 the first to come out under the new rating of ??

NC17 I think is the new rating.


Shawn

from a few replies ago...I loved Swimming to Cambodia. Spaulding Grey is a 
great storyteller. Try and chatch him live if you get the chance.

Saw the Doors this weekend like so many others. I thought it was very good. 
Crispen (sp?) Glover was an interesting choice for Andy Warhol. Krieger was the
guy engineering the Morrison solo readings at the end (according to my wife). I
thought Val Kilmer did an excellent job.


jeff

     To whom it may concern:
    
     The Rocky and Bullwinkle program will be rebroadcast on Channel 2
    (in Boston) on Sat. March 16...I'm not sure about the exact time
    
               DaveB.

    
>Crispen (sp?) Glover was an interesting choice for Andy Warhol. Krieger was the
>guy engineering the Morrison solo readings at the end (according to my wife). I
>thought Val Kilmer did an excellent job.
    
    I thought that was John Densmore.  Maybe I just wasn't paying attention
    but it shure looked like him.
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry Vauk

	well, shoot, this really belongs in the "TV note" or whatever, 
	but the Rocky and Bullwinkle 65-minute documentary will also be
	broadcast Thursday night on Channel 21 (Public TV, New Hampshire),
	I think at 8:00 PM.  Tapers beware - its PLEDGE WEEK!!!!  so starting
	times are likely to be messed up.

	Josh

NH Public TV is Channel 11 out of Durham

    
    It was John Densmore.  
    
    I thought the movie was fantastic.  Val Kilmer was incredible.. I still
    can't believe some of that singing was him.  I also thought Meg Ryan
    did a great job.  Try and see it at a theater with good stereo surround
    sound.  We lucked out and had dead center, 1st row balcony at the
    Zeigfeld.  During the concert scenes, the music is coming from the
    screen, and the crowd noises from the speakers on top of the balcony
    behind us.. it was really intense.  
    
    I can't wait to see it again. :-)
    
    

I haven't seen the movie yet, but have been reading some interesting comments
about it in TIMBRE::MUSIC.  Apparently Ray Manzerek (sp?) was pretty 
disappointed with the film ... didn't think it was very accurate ....

Last night I saw "Flatliners."  It's about these five medical students who
wanted to experience life after death.  Each one at a time would be given a
shot of sodium pentathol, then have their body temperature lowered to the point
where they were brain-dead (flat line on the EEG) ... after some number of
minutes, the other students would bring him/her back to life.  What the movie
shows as the result of their experimentation is pretty frightening (but I
thought a little hokey).

 Yesterday morning on WZLX Clas(sic) hits they had an interview
with Ray Manzerek (sp?) about the movie.
Man is he pi$$ed with Oliver Stone. He claimed that alot of the 
scenes were fabricated, some never happened and others did but
not the way they did in the film. As for his opinion of the film
as a FILM h elike it to a point.
 One thing he didn't like was Val Kilmer singing. 
He did not like the way Jim was portray to be. I didn't hear the entire
interview but he did not seem very pleased.

BTW I haven't seen the film yet, and now I don't know if I want to, because
I feel Ray's opinions may taint my own perspective of the film, even if he's
wrong I still hear his statements in the back of my mind. Know what I mean???


Shawn

    re .43
    
    My sentiments exactly about "Flatliners". A bit hokey, but frightening,
    especially if it's true.  We'll only know when it's time.
    
    dave

    I just saw The Doors and found it a very real and disturbing
    documentary of the life (and death) and music of Jim Morrison
    (not the Doors). I'm glad I saw it but probably won't see it
    again. I'll just play his music.

    As for accuracy. I can't speak for all the situations but for
    one who was there, the Miami 1969 concert was very accurately
    portrayed (within the limits of the medium).
    
    
    					Dick

    I saw this excellent documentary at the Varsity in Palo Alto
    this morning at 11:00am.  For me, it filled in a lot of
    gaps.  It features retrospective commentary by several
    people who participated in some remarkable events and lots
    of good film from the times.  Its informative and hilarious
    at times.

    
    RE: The Doors
    
    To me it was a fable about sex, drugs and rock 'n roll.  I liked the
    movie, took much of what happened on the screen as fiction, thought Val
    Kilmer was incredible and I thought the concerts scenes were great.
    
    What to see a funny, funny movie?
    
    Go see The Hard Way - what a spoof on the Hollywood "scene".  I laughed
    so hard the tears were rolling!
    
    
    Fredda

re < Note 102.47 by WLDWST::BLAKKAN "Let it shine." >
>                          -< Berkeley in the Sixties >-

>    I saw this excellent documentary at the Varsity in Palo Alto

	I believe this same film will be playing in Boston at the Coolidge
Corner Theater starting 3/15/91.  Blurb I read somewhere (Phoenix?) said
it includes Leary, Grateful Dead, etc....

	Ken, are the Dead really in this film? (probably just a short clip).
What do they do?

	josh

	re:
        
        >are the Dead really in this film? (probably just a short clip).
        Yes.  About an hour into it, for a few minutes.
    
        >What do they do?
        Play.  Maybe it was part of `Sugar Mag`.  I forget.  Thanks 
        in advance to the person who can say.
    
        The film is really about communication.  "Congress shall
        make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
        prohibiting the free exercise thereof;  or abridging the
        freedom of speech, or of the press;  or the right of the
        people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government
        for a redress of grievances."  It's easier to see how
        important this idea is when people feel like it ain't so.
    
        According to the film,  some students at Berkeley objected
        to the fact that certain hotels in San Francisco would
        not hire people who's skin wasn't pale enough for their
        preferred customers tastes.
    
        This eventually lead to all kinds of acrimony.
    
        The then Gov. of CA, Ronald Reagen, gave a very precise
        description of a rally/concert that occured, "...three
        rock and roll bands..."  He thought it was awful, terrible,
        threatening.   I can loosely quote him as saying something
        about, "movie screens at each end of the room with colored
        images projected onto them."  I guess his unconcious figured 
        that there was no good plot to these movies, and therefore
        it must be an evil plot.  That's true because films with no plot
        don't make a profit.
     
        The bottom line on this film:  see for yourself.
                            

    There's probably about as much plot (and acting ability) to the lights
    on the screens as there was to any Reagan film.
    
    Scott
    

This goes down as the lamest, I mean the LAMEST! movie I have ever seen.

Last Sunday night, we're hanging around looking for something to watch.  So,
we watched this movie called "Cry Baby" ... really, really, pooor!  It was
soooo lame that it made us laugh....

    I went to see The Doors in the rain saturday afternoon.  I was really
    floored.  Normally a grate movie will stay with me until I get home. 
    This one just left me shaking until an hour after that.
    
    I called a friend whom I've known for a long time.  He lives in South
    Florida, and attended that Miami show that is portrayed in the film.
    He said he couldn't sit through the whole thing, and is going to have
    to go back and watch it all again.
    
    I mentioned elsewhere that my first concert was the Doors in '69, a few
    weeks after that Miami show.  I was only 14.  I think I had a major
    flashback last saturday.  Something definitely hit me.
    
    No shit.  An incredible film.  Way to go, Oliver Stone!
    
    tim
    
    P.S. Maybe it's just me, but I've seen a LOT of really GRATE films this
    year: Alice, Dances with Wolves, and The Doors all in a few weeks!
    

    
    You have indeed... I loved all three of those also!
    
    I saw another very good movie this past weekend. Robert De Niro's new
    one, _Guilty by Suspicion_.  It's about Hollywood during the McCarthy
    years and all the actors brought in front of the House UnAmerican
    Activities Committee, the resulting blacklisting, etc.  It's very
    powerfully done and well acted.  You really feel the powerlessness of
    these people as they watch their lives being destroyed.  I was furious 
    the whole time I watched it.. pretty sickening era.  One of the actors
    in the film, Sam Wanamaker, was actually blacklisted during those
    years.
    
    

Silence of the Lambs

Saw it Friday night, had me riveted in my seat for the duration.  It had to be 
one of THE MOST intense movies I have ever seen.  I came out feeling like I had 
tensed up every muscle in my body for 2 hrs+ non-stop, and most movies don't do 
that to me.  If you don't like horror-type or extrmely intense 
muder/mystery-type movies, or if you don't have a strong stomach, I'd avoid 
it.  If on the other hand you like to have your nerve tested and like to be 
on the edge of your seat, see it.  

Jodie Foster does a terrific job, but icy-cold serial killer played by Anthony 
Hopkins had the most impat on me.  Scary stuff...

Scott

Hopkins had the most impat on me.  Scary stuff...
                     ^^^^^

Ummm, that was supposed to say impact.

    RE .55
    
    I hear ya!!  Same thing happened to me!!  We went to the late show.  I
    couldn't go home after that, too wired!  so we went out for coffee and
    dessert.  Hmmm, that wasn't to smart....sugar and caffeine.  Oh well. 
    :^)
    
    dave

    
    
    YES!!!  Finally!  I was going through severe withdrawal. ;-)
    
    _Thelma & Louise_, starring Susan Sarandon & Geena Davis.  This is a
    classic buddy movie in the same vein as Butch Cassidy & The Sundance
    Kid.  Both title characters are fully drawn and evolve throughout the
    film, even without making stereotypical female choices (gasp!) ;-).
    You'll run through a whole range of emotions and laugh out loud a lot!
    
    **** !
    
    :-) Phyllis
    
    

    I saw BACKDRAFT this weekend.  Grate movie!!  Great fire scenes!! 
    There wasn't a whole lot of "depth" in it, if you know what I mean. 
    Grate action though.  It shows you and makes you appreciate that
    firemen are real heroes.  And if you always wanted to be a fireman when
    you were a kid (I still do!) then this is the movie for you!  You gotta
    see it in the big scene for full effect.
    
    dave

re:< Note 102.59 by SPOCK::IRONS "Might as well" >
>                                 -< BACKDRAFT >-
>
>    I saw BACKDRAFT this weekend.  Grate movie!!  Great fire scenes!! 
>    There wasn't a whole lot of "depth" in it, if you know what I mean. 
>    Grate action though.  It shows you and makes you appreciate that
>    firemen are real heroes.  And if you always wanted to be a fireman when
>    you were a kid (I still do!) then this is the movie for you!  You gotta
>    see it in the big scene for full effect.

I'm still waiting for Channel 38 to pick up Emergency!

adam_who_had_a_crush_on_Julie_London_and_later_found_out_she_is_a_well_known_
blues_singer

    
>    I saw BACKDRAFT this weekend.  Grate movie!!  Great fire scenes!! 
>    There wasn't a whole lot of "depth" in it, if you know what I mean. 
>    Grate action though.  It shows you and makes you appreciate that
>    firemen are real heroes.  And if you always wanted to be a fireman when
>    you were a kid (I still do!) then this is the movie for you!  You gotta
>    see it in the big scene for full effect.
    
 
     Did you notice David Crosby?
    
     

    re .-1
    
    > Did you notice David Crosby?
    
    Haven't seen it yet, but maybe that's what the noter meant by "You
    gotta see it on the big screen for full effect."  :^)  :^)  Sounds like
    a deserved cameo after the way "Live It Up" went down in flames!
    
    Jamie

    
    > Did you notice David Crosby?
    
    Hey I did.  I think is was during one of the first scenes when they
    come up to the building on fire and the kid's Dad is going in to fight
    the fire.  Anyhow I remember turning to my girlfriend and saying "Hey
    that is David Crosby"
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry

    
    Yup - that was it.  I too, said, Hey! That looks like David Crosby! 
    And then forgot about it until the credits were running and saw
    1970's Hippie - David Crosby.
    
    :-)
    
    

    I did the same thing!!  I said to my wife jokingly "There's David
    Crosby."  I didn't stay for the credits and forgot about it since.
    
    Thanks for the reminder; I'll have to tell the wife it was really him.
    
    dave

Finally saw Dances With Wolves last night. What a great movie. I want to go 
back and see it again tonight but the theater is only open weekends and 
they'll probably have a new movie next weekend. Oh well hopefully it will be 
out on Videocassette soon. 

It is an incredible movie.

Geoff

    
    the only problem with "Dances" on video cassette is going to be with
    the screen differences...  i hope if "Dances" comes out on video
    cassette that they do it in the "letter box" format to preserve the big
    screen images...  i think a tv screen will take away from the overall
    effect...  i agree though...  amazing movie!  see it in big screen!
    
    					da ve

 I watched The HUnt For Red October last nite. EXCELLENT flick!!!!!
Now I really want to read the book. I always have but never got around to it.
I wonder if anyone would take on the project of put Red Storm Rising
onto film.

Shawn

The book was much better than the movie IMO.   I was disappointed in the movie,
particularly the with the special effects.   I believe they are working on a
movie of Clear and Present Danger.  Not sure about Red Storm Rising.




Jim

    
    But of course.. :-)
    
    Jungle Fever - written & directed by Spike Lee
    
    I LOVED it!  Arguably his best yet.  The topic is (unfortunately) as
    timely as ever.  The characters are fully-developed, even (surprise
    surprise) the female characters.  As always - the realism throughout
    the film is right on - from the coffee shop in Brooklyn to the crack
    den in Harlem... you feel like you're there.  Great Stevie Wonder
    soundtrack too.
    
    I also went to see Soap Dish which was okay but not nearly as
    hysterical as I was hoping.  The last 15 minutes or so you'll be
    rolling.. but the rest of it is funny.. but you're just waiting for it
    to be FUNNY if you know what I mean.  I would say waiting for cable
    would be okay.
    
    Next on the list - City Slickers with Billy Crystal.  Anyone go yet?
    
    

    >Next on the list - City Slickers with Billy Crystal.  Anyone go yet?
    
Yup, Saturday night.  This movie is the BEST comedy I have seen in a long 
time!!!  Every joke and one-liner (there are some real doozies!!) worked for 
me, and Billy Crystal gives possibly his best performance of recent memory.  
Jack Palance is also terrific as the tough and weathered cowboy named Curley.  
I will have to go see it again since I missed a lot due to the audience 
laughing so loud and hard at times (me included) I think I missed some good 
scene endings.  Some nice scenery captured nicely on film as well.

Scott

What's the rating on City Slickers?








Jim

    
    Alright!!!!!!!!!  I'd go just for that Village People line alone but
    now I know there's lots of good ones!!  :-)
    
    

>What's the rating on City Slickers?

Don't know off-hand.  I would imaging it is PG-13 for some "bad words" type 
stuff, no sex or nudity (ok, so now who is NOT going ;^) or violence to speak 
of so I can't believe it would be an R.

Scott

Robin Hood - Prince of Thieves!

I liked this movie a lot, so what if Siskel & Ebert didn't!  
I think that it has it's flaws, but the cast never take this movie too
seriously, there are a laughs thrown in in the right places just to remind you
that you are there for entertainment, not to rate the performance.



Kevin

>What's the rating on City Slickers?

	It's just a guess Jim but I doubt they'll ask you to show
	proof of age in case that was what you were worried about.  :-)
	
Lisa

That's because I'm tall.  Other people may have a problem :^)







Jim

    We're a bit behind on these releases but I might as well mention the
    last 3 films I've seen have been excellent:
    
    The Doors
    Silence of the Lambs
    Dances with Wolves
    
    -Dermot

    Took my son to see THe Rocketeer for his fourth birthday. He thought
    it was great (although he remarked that the romantic sub-plot seemed
    tacked-on). Good movie to take your kids (especially boys) to see.
    
    - Dave

We've hit the movie more frequently this summer than in the past. Loved Thelma &
Louise and City Slickers and enjoyed RH Prince of Thieves.

FWIW (not much), just and an odd notion for a drive-in double bill

Batman and Robin Hood

j

    
    I caught City Slickers last night.. absolutely hysterical!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    my favorite line for the moment below the formfeed - not a spoiler, but
    you might as well not read it if you haven't seen the movie yet:
    
    
    
    "Phil has no life either, that doesn't mean we're gonna eat him!"
    
    :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 
    

I remembered last night that, in City Slickers, Billy Crystal's character worked
for a radio station with the call letters WBLM. If I'm not mistaken, there's a
WBLM (the Blimp 108.1 or so) out of Lewiston, ME

>      <<< Note 102.83 by SSGV02::STROBEL "Museum of Barnyard Oddities" >>>
>                           -< City Slickers & WBLM >-

>I remembered last night that, in City Slickers, Billy Crystal's character worked
>for a radio station with the call letters WBLM. If I'm not mistaken, there's a
>WBLM (the Blimp 108.1 or so) out of Lewiston, ME
    
    ...WBLM is now a Portland Me station at 102.5 or so. (can call letters
    be used in multiple geographies??? just wondering..)...paul

Hey now;

It's the 50th anniversary of the release of the movie "Fantasia" ... it's
playing at the Wilton (NH) Town Hall theater tonight and tomorrow night, at
7:30 only.  I'm going to see it tonight, if anyone wants to join me.  In
Dolby (tm) stereo ...

- ave maria
  DC

    Last night I saw Harrison Ford's latest, "Regarding Henry".  This is an
    intense drama with an interesting message about remembering (or
    forgetting) who we really are.  I REALLY enjoyed it.  Ford is an
    incredible actor, and I'm very biased toward everything he does.
    This is his second role cast as a lawyer, but I don't know if it's the
    same author.  Anybody know?
    
    Also, saw previews for two interesting looking upcoming attactions:
    Star Trek VI (big surprize, huh?), and (drum roll) The Addams Family.
    The preview for the latter looked hilarious.  I always liked that show.
    
    tim
    

Saw Naked Gun 2.5 last weekend..lots o' fun.   Just a little short of the first
one (IMO) but very much worth seeing...I love this stuff..




RE -1...different authors I believe.



Jim who also likes Harrison Ford

    
    My girlfriend might be comming into town this weekend and I was looking
    for a movie to take her to.  I thought "Regarding Henry" would be a
    good choice - any other suggestions.  I am looking for a thought
    provoking/romantic/interesting movie to take her too.  
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry

    Definitely take her to see Regarding Henry.
    
    Although I hear it's a good movie, I wouldn't suggest Terminator 2. :-)
    I think I'm gonna hafta see that one alone - got talked out of it last
    night, but it worked out just fine.  Harrison Ford is amazing, as
    usual.
    
    tim
    

    
    Jim, I never would have guessed that you'd like "The Naked Gun"
    
    :^) :^) ;^)
    
    Dave

    I rented GoodFellows last week, WOW intense stuff ! got me jumpin outta
    my seat a few times !
    
    Chris

Tim beat me to the Terminator 2 joke :) a romantic night indeed! :)

I did go see T2 though - if you liked the 1st one then you will like
this one.  WHEW! was all I could say as I was exiting the place....
Some fantastic special effects .... 

At 6.50 it better be good!  It's been a while since I've gone to an indoor
movie that I forgot how much it was to get in (of course PhyLLis would 
probably say, "6.50!, wow wot a bargain!"

Anybody see Robin Hood yet?  I think I'd like that....
bob

RE:                      <<< Note 102.90 by AWECIM::RUSSO >>>

    
   > Jim, I never would have guessed that you'd like "The Naked Gun"
    
  


     Gee, whys that?   :^)




Jim    
    

    
    :-)
    
    Actually, Phyllis tries very hard to wait to see a movie after it's
    been out for 2 weeks so she can use her $4.50 coupons!  :-)  Much
    better than the $7.50 NYC price.  
    
    Tim, I'm glad to hear you liked Regarding Henry so much!  The NY Times
    gave it a pretty mediocre review.  I don't know anyone else who saw it 
    yet.
    
    Presumed Innocent was written by Scott Thurow.. or Trudow.. this one
    wasn't.  I think this one was directed by Mike Nichols who also
    directed H. Ford in Working Girl.
    
    I rented Green Card recently.  I liked it a lot except the ending
    (which I hated a lot :-/ - who wants the government in a love story of
    all places?????!)  I also didn't understand Andie McDowell's character
    at all.  I was in love with this guy in 15 minutes.. what the heck took
    her an hour and a half??? ;-)  
    
    

BAckdraft is playing at the Milford Drive-in this weekend with ??? 

$10 per carload no matter how many. If you don't have a car radio (AM or FM) 
bring a boom box

Geoff

    
    Jerry Vauk - if you haven't seen your girlfriend for awhile - why are
    you going to a movie?  
    
    

    
    Good point there:-):-):-)  I have seen her on the weekends.  I spent
    the 4th of July with her and her parents in Washington DC.  It was my
    first time to DC.  I had an incredible time.  She is a student at
    Boston College but this summer she is working in a summer internship at
    Lehigh University in Allentown Pennsylvania.  To say the least my car
    could probably drive itself to PA:-)  It is typical for me to get
    involved in a difficult relationship especially since I am going back
    to Illinois in three weeks:-(  Oh well, what will be will be but love
    is real - it will never fade away!!!!:-):-):-)  We probably won't even
    end up at a movie - mostly we enjoy just going out for walks and
    relaxing outside in eachothers company...
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry:-)

    Anybody seen Jacob's Ladder?  Weird, strange, thought provoking movie. 
    I highly recommend it, especially if you're in a weird mood.  My wife
    and I had a real weird day the day we saw it and this film was icing on
    the cake!
    
    dave

re:          <<< Note 102.94 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >>>

>    I rented Green Card recently.  I liked it a lot except the ending
>    (which I hated a lot :-/ - who wants the government in a love story of

	I saw this a couple of weeks ago too, good flick!   Yeah, the ending
	was sad, but think of the sequel possibilities ;-)   Really, I think
	the ending was just to set up for a happy back-together-again sequel!

>    all places?????!)  I also didn't understand Andie McDowell's character
>    at all.  I was in love with this guy in 15 minutes.. what the heck took
>    her an hour and a half??? ;-)  
    
	Who was Andie McDowell again ?   (I've never been good with names).

	I saw that Robin Williams/DeNiro movie on the place back from the UK,
	what was that called again ?  Oh yeah "Awakenings".  Another stellar
	performance by DeNiro, and Robin Williams as well!  Had me all choked 
	up...

	Can't wait to see Goodfellas.  DeNiro is an amazing actor.

	Ken (who hopes his VCR hasn't _totally_ died yet.)

    .96
    
    well Carol, depending on how long it's been he may be looking for 
    a real fun trashy movie to refresh his memory!!!!
    
    nah.....   :^)
    
    				da ve

    
    so are you being a pig right now ????   
    
    is this what they mean when they say the memory is the first thing to
    go?
    
    c

    hmmmm...  am i being a pig right now???  i think most people will
    tell you there's always at least a little ham hiding just below the
    surface!  :^)
    
    memory may be the first thing to go...  but it's been so long now since
    i've had to remember, i'm afraid other things may have gone in the
    meantime! :^) :^)
    
    					da ve

>               <<< Note 102.101 by CIVIC::ROBERTS "Imagine..." >>>
>                                  -< uh huh  >-
>
>    
>    so are you being a pig right now ????   
>    
>    is this what they mean when they say the memory is the first thing to
>    go?
    
    It's a well known fact that memory is the SECOND thing to go...:-):-)
    
    tim
    

    
>	Who was Andie McDowell again ?   (I've never been good with names).

    The woman lead who married Gerard Dipardieu.  (BTW, for anyone who
    likes him - go see Cyrano Debergerac!!!  This was an incredible film
    and the world's greatest love story.  I believe Dipardieu was nominated
    for best actor for this role last year so it might even still be on the
    big screen in some artsy type theaters.)
    
>	I saw that Robin Williams/DeNiro movie on the place back from the UK,
>	what was that called again ?  Oh yeah "Awakenings".  Another stellar
>	performance by DeNiro, and Robin Williams as well!  Had me all choked 
>	up...

    Agreed - this was an incredible film.  
    
>	Can't wait to see Goodfellas.  DeNiro is an amazing actor.
    
    Another great one.  VERY violent, but I think Scorcese is brilliant and
    Scorcese/DeNiro is pretty unbeatable.
    
    

    Scorcese is a great director .... his camera angles and approach is 
    neat and when you view his films with this in mind it adds another
    dimension to the movie....Citizen Kane was another that you should 
    enjoy when thinking about techniques etc.
    
    rich

    I love these kinds of movies.  Thought they did an excellant job on
    this one.  Very good.  Some people may think that it had some or too
    much blood shed stuff, but I thought it was all done in a tasteful way.
    What do you expect . . . this is done in medival times.  I thought
    there was some nice scenery.  Nice castles, etc.  The Sheriff of
    Knotingham was evil and Robin Hood, The Prince of Theives, was good.
    The people of Sherwood Forest were an interesting bunch to meet.
    A good scene between Robin Hood and Brother John (I think that's him)
    makes things interesting in Sherwood Forest.
    
    A must to see.
    
    --Cathleen
    

RE:    <<< Note 102.98 by SPOCK::IRONS "Shiny, happy people holding hands!" >>>
                              -< Jacob's Ladder >-

>    Anybody seen Jacob's Ladder? 

Yup; last time I walked the Jewell Trail!

:-)


/wise-ass

A thumbs up for "Impromptu",  the story of the romance between Chopin and
the authoress George Sands.  This movie is funny, witty, and captures the
feeling of Paris during the Romantic period of the late 1800s.  Bernadette
Peters puts in a stellar co-starring appearance as the mistress of
Franz Liszt.  Now playing at the Lexington and the West Newton Cinemas.


	-td

    
    YES!
    
    The Doctor, starring William Hurt, Christine Lahti, Elizabeth Perkins,
    Mandy Patinkin, Adam Arkin
    
    This was really a great movie, highlighted by a fantastic performance
    by William Hurt.  He plays a very successful heart surgeon who
    discovers he has a cancerous growth on his larynx.  The plot involves
    the transformation of Hurt from doctor to patient, you know one of
    those let's give him a chance to live this from someone else's shoes
    kindof movies.  This is incredibly well-done, though.  It doesn't come
    off sappy or unrealistic.  In fact, I hope it becomes mandatory viewing
    as part of a residency. (No joke!) Good script - lots of funny lines. 
    The only thing I didn't like was that Hurt's seemed to be the only really
    fully developed character.  Most of the supporting cast was wasted with
    bit parts - Christine Lahti in particular.  Still worth the $7.50
    though.  :-)
    
    Phyllis
    

    
    I was the last person on the East Coast to see it though.  I went with
    a friend who had already seen it and she was blown away all over again.
    A riveting movie .. absolutely riveting.  I urge you to go and if you
    can - see it at the Wilton theatre for $4 - all shows!  I plan to see
    it again soon, myself
    
    carol 

    
    Nope, my friend Linda is the last person on the East Coast to see it..
    still hasn't. She keeps bugging me but I've already seen it twice.  Let me
    know when you're ready to go again, Carol, and I'll send her up to NH.
    :-)
    

    
    >I was the last person on the East Coast to see it though.  I went with
    
Not quite!   8^)


Scott_who_doesn't_get_to_the_movies_often_but_this_is_definately_on_my_rather_
loooooooong_list_of_must_sees

I haven't seen it either, though its on the list if I can ever find it 8^/





Jim

    
    Check under your coffee table.
    
    

    
    re: .113
    
    find your list ? or find the movie?
    
    

Can't find it either :^)





Jim

    I haven't seen it either. I'm waiting for Robin Hood to come to Wilton.
    
    Scott
    

    you know what they say 
    
    your list of 'must see' movies is always the third thing you lose,..
    
    the second is your memory and the first is,.. um,.. er,.. sh*t I
    forget...
    
    						/:-)
    

RE:               <<< Note 102.117 by BCSE::ABBOT "Ban stupidity" >>>

    >>               I'm waiting for Robin Hood to come to Wilton.
    
    

      Last I heard he was in Nottingham, NH and on his way Scott.  Hang in
   there :^)





Jim    

    
    Yeah !  I saw Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves the last time the
    temp went over 95 which was last sunday afternoon. It was a fun movie.
    ..campy, I think.  The usual running thru of knaves and a bit of self
    mutilation but all and all OK.  One thing I didn't like was the way
    Maid Marion was protrayed (of course).  But then - I guess it is really
    a guy_bonding movie.
    
    Carol  

I recently saw Thelma & Louise and thought it was a pretty good movie.  The
start of it was very good, but I thought it started to deteriorate with 
"fakeness" (a truck doesn't blow up like it did, one doesn't become a shooting
ace over night).  I think the movie would have been better if all potentially 
real-life situations were used rather than the situations "made for movies."

Just my 2 cents.

Deb found the movie sad in the end.

    		Bill& Ted's Bogus Journey
    
    It was most excellent...Death stole the show, he wasn't a good player
    of battleship, clue, and twister, but a good sport all in all!!  The
    first movie had more excitement and adventure than this sequal.  At
    first this movie seems very thin, but after thinking about it, there
    seems to be some hidden plot lines that need to noticed after several
    viewings.  Wait for video for multiple viewings!!
    
    	Be Excellent to each other !!!  Party on Dude :'))
    
    
    Chris

	Yeah, Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey was not not not hienous...

	Definitely geared toward 12 year olds, though, unlike the first 
	movie which wasn't limited to humor only pre-adolecents can appreciate.

	I would have liked to see more character development in Moronos:
	Bill & Ted's Evil Arch Nemisis who was Rufus's Ex Gym Teacher...

	My favorite part was when the Android Ted-look-a-like Evil Arch-nemisis
	Pawn of Moronos said when he saw a picture of Bill & Ted's Babes:

	"I've got a full-on robot chubby for them!"		:-)

You get the picture..	

    
    Haven't been in this topic in a while..
    
    The Commitments - I liked this a lot, although not as much as I thought
    I would.  I think it would've been better if they concentrated a little
    more on the socio-political stuff and a little less on the auditions.
    :-)  The music is great though and it's definately a fun movie.
    
    Dead Again - This is a really well done psychological thriller that 
    is set in the present day but involves a murder that took place in the 
    40's.  Kenneth Branaugh should get a Best Director nomination.
    
    The Fisher King - Another really grate movie!  The story is wonderful,
    the acting is even better and Robin Williams is hysterical!  And you
    gotta love the Terry Gilliam touches. :-)
    
    Only about 17 left on the list now.. (and I'm out of discount coupons
    :-o)
    
    :-) Phyllis
    
    

    
    Saw VIDEODROME wed. night on CH27 i think....kind of violent but the
    hallucinations were cool....
    
    					dugo

    
    I saw the Addams Family last weekend.  It was very funny..the cast is
    perfect, grate acting.. but the story is really weak.  So after about 
    an hour, you've had enough.  It's like how many times can you laugh at 
    Thing?  It sort of feels like a two hour sitcom.  It's too bad they
    didn't get a better script, though, cause the actors were really
    fantastic and it could've been a lot better.  Raul Julia and Angelica
    Huston make a perfect Gomez & Morticia!
    
    

    I saw "The Abyss" and thought it was great except for the tacked on
    Hollywood ending.  Someone had guts to cast Chris Elliot in a (small)
    dramatic role.
    
    After years of wanting to see it, I finally saw "Being There," Peter
    Seller's last role.  I thought it was about the dullest film I'd ever
    seen, contemplated hitting "stop" about a dozen times, and wished I had
    by the time it ended.  The theme of the movie was played out after 15
    minutes, and the rest of the film was absolute drudgery.  I was
    incredibly disappointed by it, especially 'cause I usually love black
    humor.  I think the critics loved it, but I can't see why.
    
    Jamie

>    After years of wanting to see it, I finally saw "Being There," Peter
>    Seller's last role.  I thought it was about the dullest film I'd ever
>    seen, contemplated hitting "stop" about a dozen times, and wished I had
>    by the time it ended.  The theme of the movie was played out after 15
>    minutes, and the rest of the film was absolute drudgery.  I was
>    incredibly disappointed by it, especially 'cause I usually love black
>    humor.  I think the critics loved it, but I can't see why.
>    
>    Jamie


The main reason that I loved Being There was because it is the only movie that 
I've ever seen that followed the book to a "T". Almost Word for word.

I thought it was a wonderful concept and well put on the screen.

Geoff

	If you ever see Peter Seller's late 60's flick called
	"Alice B Tolkas", get it if yer up for a few laughs.

	Ken

    One of my favorite Sellers movies (aside from Pink Panthers) is The
    Mouse That Roared. It's a post-WW2 cold war era movie about the Duchy
    of Grand fenwich who has run out of money and decided to declare war on
    the US and then surrender to get financial aid.
    
    Scott
    

Full name is "I Love You, Alice B. Toklas".  Not that the name itself isn't
indicative enough!  Very good/funny movie!

adam

We rented "Silence the Lambs" this past weekend.  Good movie, great story.
Nice thriller...

    Took the kids to Beauty and the Beast and Fievel Goes West. 
    I think B & the B was a great kids movie, even by adult standards.
    
    Fievel was pretty good too.
    
    - Dave

    The other night was Woody Allen's birthday, and a cable station (USA?)
    played "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex", and
    "Manhattan".  Manhattan didn't start until 1am, but I managed to hang
    around till the end.
    
    Two grate flicks in one sitting...  I had never seen "Everthing..."
    before. :-)
    
    tim
    

>    played "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex", and

	I'd seen some of this one before but not the part where Woody plays
	a sperm... I liked the part where Woody is about to... uh... eject...
	and he looks around and proclaims "well at least he's Jewish" 

    Re: Everything...
    
    I thought the whole Gene Wilder segment (with the sheep) was hilarious,
    and the transvestite one was pretty funny too...
    
    tim
    

    Anyone heard of a film named "Gizmo"?  They interviewed the director on
    a Late Night re-run and it looked funny.  It's a series of clips of
    misguided inventions in action.
    
    Jamie

    Gizmo is a great movie.  It's been out on tape for a while, so you
    might be able to find it.  It's really heavy on inventions from the
    30's, and lots of attempts at flight (both man and machine).
    It's more of a tribute to imagination than trying to make creators of
    failed inventions look like bufoons.
    
    Scott
    

    re .-1
    
    I'll start searching for it on tape.  The clips they showed on Dave
    made the inventors look foolish, but Dave does that to most of his
    guests anyway.  I especially liked the elevator basketball shoes.
    
    Jamie 

    I've got it.  I taped it of of Preview several years ago.

Hey, anyopne see the Warren Beatty movie Bugsy yet??  I don't know if it's good 
or not, but Bill Graham is apparntly in it.  

Scott

----------------------------------------
From: derek@netcom.COM (Derek LeLash)
Subject: Re: Bill Graham sighting
Date: 19 Dec 91 02:47:51 GMT

In article <1991Dec18.191520.9199@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> NCOVEY@ucs.indiana.edu writes:
>No, this doesn't mean I saw him in a magic mart with Elvis.  It means I saw 
>a preview of Warren Beaty's new movie, BUGSY, last night.  I swear I saw 
>Bill Graham in it.

This is not an illusion; Bill plays the mobster Lucky Luciano (I think that's
the name).  I've heard some good reviews of his performance, too.
Just makes what happened all the harder to deal with...

Derek

-- 
       Derek LeLash            |  ...gone where the climate suits my clothes.
   FOAF of the devil... >:-)   |-----------------------------------------------
===============================| "If I *were* the last man on earth, you 
derek@netcom.com  408-739-5526 |  wouldn't even be allowed in line!"     -- EMO

I *thought* I saw him in a TV commericial for the movie, last night ....

    
    Not yet, but it's supposed to be grate.  And yes, that's Bill Graham
    playing Lucky Luciano.
    
    I saw, Hook, though.  I'm sorry to say, it was far from grate.  Pretty
    mediocre actually.  
    
    6 days til The Prince of Tides.  :-) :-) :-)
    
    
    
    
    
    

LA Story - w/ Steve Martin --- just OK

  Star Trek VI    Loved it.







 Jim

    Sorry for the differing opinion, but I happened to think that LA Story
    was just short of GRATE.  Some of it didn't fly so well, but for the
    most part, the satire was fantastic!  I would watch it again, and, in
    fact, have.

    Just MHO,

    Don

Saw Fantasia for the first time a couple weeks ago. A certain grateful noter 
suggested I wait to see it until I was frying my brains out on acid.  I won't 
tell ya whether I waited or not, but nevertheless it was quite a visually 
inspiring and utterly hallucinogenic experience...	:-)

Wish I'd seen it first in a theatre rather than vcr-wise on the boobtube, tho.

    your friend has some good advice....

re      <<< Note 102.147 by SPICE::PECKAR "Shadow skiing the apocalypse" >>>
                                    -< [] >-


>Saw Fantasia for the first time a couple weeks ago. A certain grateful noter 
>suggested I wait to see it until I was frying my brains out on acid.  I won't 

Of course, you must mean phosphoric or possibly citric acid.

    Took my daughter to see My Girl...not bad...has a nice way of dealing
    with death...(well at least she did not go batty on me)...Anyway 
    thought it was good entertainment.
    
    ric h

    YUP.
    
    Star Trek VI. Of course if was good.  A little too short, though.  Not
    very technical, however, that's because the next generation is,
    probably.
    
    dave

Home videos...

"Robin Hood" w/ Kevin Costner -- really liked this one! Action for the guys,
  romance for ladies, suitable for kids... Excellent all round movie 

"The Gods Must Be Crazy II" - same as the first one - pretty silly, not really
  my style (wasn't my choice - I chose Robin Hood ;^) 

"City Slickers" -- pretty good, good humor, but a little slow in spots, I liked
  it.

    
    Nope.  Seen some grate ones though! :-)
    
    First - "Bugsy"
    
    Loved it.  Tailor-made vehicle for Warren Beatty.. he should get an 
    oscar nomination.  The chemistry between Beatty & Annette Bening is
    just sizzling.  Bill Graham did a great job as Charlie Luciano.  Small 
    role, but played very well, very convincingly.  All the smaller parts
    were cast really well with Ben Kingsley as a standout. 
    
    Second - "The Prince of Tides"
    
    Well, all us millions who loved the book and prayed that the movie
    would do it justice can relax.  It is magnificent.. Streisand did a
    fantastic job.  I love Nick Nolte and I don't think anyone has ever
    directed him better.  Absolutely worth standing in the freezing cold 
    for 45 min. to get front row center balcony seats at the Ziegfeld. :-)
    
    Next up.. "JFK" and "Grand Canyon"
    
    This is the gratest time of year for the movies!!!  
    
    

    
    Anyone see 'The man in the Moon'....really excellent drama of a young
    girls trials of adolecence during the late 50's...well done an truely
    worth while seeing.
    
    			dugo

I saw Star Trek VI too.  I thought the ending was a bit abrupt and much
too perfect - only in the movies 8-).  The Klingon blood looked like
Pepto Bismol.  We also saw the Addam's Family.  The cast was perfect!!
Wednesday was so morbid!!  8-)  It was too much of a coincidence that
Fester ended up being the "son" of the Addam's Family's lawyer's loanshark
(boy, I hope the grammar police don't get me on that last one 8-) after he
got amnesia.  Oops, am I giving away the story here??  Sorry!!

peace,
t!ng

    I thought Star Trek VI was mildly disappointing.  First off, where'd
    they come up with an oriental looking Klingon named Chang ... complete
    with topknot and everything !!!  I mean, why didn't they just call him
    make him a warlord and call him Ghengis Khan or something ??  Hokey !!
    
    The story was weak, and everything just came together too easy.  If
    that's the best they can do, perhaps they'd better not do a Star Trek
    VII ... or let the current cast (from The Next Generation) make the
    next one.
    
    ... Bob
    

Something confused me with Star Trek VI ... originally this gas analysis/
detector/whatever equipment that eventually was used by Kirk to save the
universe ;^) was aboard Sulu's ship, wasn't it?  Was it moved between ships
during the movie, or what?  I admit I missed the first few minutes of the
movie ....

- Dave

  Saw JFK Friday...intense movie, and IMO entirely believable.  It was 3+
hours long and for the most part the time flew right by..





Jim

    
    re: 102.157 = DC - I think this is one of those leaps of faith you have
    		  to have when watching Star Treks.  I love the line when
    	          she says something like 'they have to have a tailpipe,
                  right?'   Right to the basics.
    
    re: 102.158 = Jim - I agree, JFK movie was very good. We saw a matineee
                  - joined by 12 other hardy movie goers on NY Day.  I
                  think it was very well done.  Almost as well orchestrated 
                  as the Warren report :-) 
    
    c 

    
    I saw two good movies this weekend, "Rush" and "My Own Private Idaho".
    
    Both were very well done.  "Rush" is about 2 undercover narcotics cops
    and the thin line they walk between being narcs and being addicts. 
    They were very believable.  Greg Allman has a small but important part
    as a club owner suspected of being a drug dealer.  Grate soundtrack
    too!  (Clapton)
    
    "My Own Private Idaho" was done by the same director who did "Drugstore
    Cowboy", and it feels similar.  Real life portraits of the dregs of
    society (so to speak).  River Phoenix and Keanu Reeves are street
    hustlers.
    
    

    Yeah, I thought the "they have to have a tailpipe" line was classic
    tongue-in-cheek, like some other lines from this movie ... such as:
    
    
    The Vulcans have a saying "only Nixon could go to China".
    
    
    To truly appreciate Shakespeare you have to read it in the original
    Klingon.
    
    

So has anyone seen Grand Canyo yet? Phyllis???

I have not yet seen it but am thinking about trying to go this coming weekend.
Should I make the trip???

Jack

    
    No, not yet, but I've heard some good things.  Grate cast.
    
    

 <<< Note 102.160 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "I'm working on it..I'm working on it" >>>
>    "My Own Private Idaho" was done by the same director who did "Drugstore
>    Cowboy", and it feels similar.  Real life portraits of the dregs of
>    society (so to speak).  River Phoenix and Keanu Reeves are street
>    hustlers.
    
Do you get the same sort of bummed out sort of drained  feeling from watching 
this one as I did when I watched "Drugstore Cowboy"?  

I thought it (drugstore cowboy) was a good movie by the way.

I like this depressing real peak at life the way other people live it 
(by other people - I mean the ones outside of Hollywoods general glossy
and glam view of life).

thanks!
bob

    
    Not as much, but I know what feeling you mean.  "Drugstore Cowboy"
    reeled me in more.  You kindof rode the drug rollercoaster w/ the
    characters.  This is a little different, maybe cause it's farther away
    from any experience most of us have had.  It still seems real, though. 
    You could definately imagine that people living like that, go through
    things that these characters do, and have the reactions they do, etc.
    
    

 <<< Note 102.165 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "I'm working on it..I'm working on it" >>>
				      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:)

thanks PhyLLis,

I'll just have to check it out!

bob

We went to see Bugsy last Friday.  Bill Graham as Charlie Luciano
was perfect.  I thought that were some inconsistencies, but overall
a good movie.  It was kind of depressing in the end though.

peace,
t!ng

Well, I couldn't resist. I rented 2001 and watched it with some friends who 
make rilly good margueritas (real lemon juice, honey, yummers!).

I'll tell ya, for 1968, they shure did a great job on special effects.  O-)
									^
							          Space Helmitt

Happy birthday H-A-L 9000!!!

Fog_who_thinks_its_kinda_ironic_that_both_DEC's_and_IBM's_flagship_computers_
are_both_called_"The_9000".

Yep, I watched it at a friend's house, on laser disc ... pretty amazing
picture quality!  We had Jack Dan'ls instead of margueritas though, which
made the trip to the ol' Ethereal Hotel a lot more interesting.

We watched "Robin Hood" afterwards.  Good movie, but Kevin Costner could've
worked on the English accent a little!  And I thought the woman who played
Mozart's wife in "Amadeus" was bad.

Using words like "thanks" was a little questionable too.  ;^)

I watched the Grateful Dead Movie for the first time last night - very 
intersting!  Definately some cool animation, and the behind the scenes 
stuff and interviews were cool too.  And then of course there was the 
music 8^)

I was suprised to see no Mickey.  Which made me think, I have never seen a 
chronology of the Dead's personnel (like who left when, who joined when, 
etc.).  Can anyone come up with and post such a creature??  Is this 
Deadbase-type info (I don't have one)??

If only they could re-master the soundtrack, it seemed very sub-par quality 
wise.  The levels on my HiFi VCR never even made it to zero.

Scott

PS - For as much fun as Donna seemed to be having, Keith looked somewhat 
     bored.  Much different style from Bouncing Brent ;^)

    The Grateful Dead Movie is from the 1974 tour - Mickey quit the band in
    1971 and didn't rejoin until 1975 (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
    
    As for a chronology of personnel, it shouldn't be tough since Deadbase
    has all the dates, although occasional members like Tom Constanten are
    a little hazy.
    
    Scott
    

Ahem,  Just q quick note about the author of the book "The Drugstore Cowboy".

I forgot his name already (are you suprised :) BUT he is going back to 
jail for being caught w/ $38,000 worth of prescription drugs in a hotel
room..

fyi

    Hey Fog, ya' know I didn't know IBM had a 9000.
    
    I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but did you know
    HAL+111=IBM?  
     
    	I even saw HAL's birthday commented on in the news paper
    yesterday. They were talking with someone at some computer place in
    Urbanna (or whatever it is) Ill. and A Clarke. It approximately said,
    yup, Grateful notes were right again, it was '97 in the book and
    it was HAL's 0th birthday.
    
    but I degress
    Geoff  

From MOVIES conference....

================================================================================
Note 3703.52                           JFK                              52 of 53
CFSCTC::AHERN "Dennis the Menace"                       4 lines  15-Jan-92 17:02
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Oliver Stone will be at the JFK School of Government near Harvard
    Square tomorrow at 5 p.m. for a 1-hour question and answer session on
    the film, to be followed by a screening.  Open to the public.
    

    Wayne's Werrrrld ... don't go with your wife or anyone respectable ..
    pretty baked!

	I'm not gonna argue a subjective term like "respectable" here 
	(especially with THIS crowd!) ;^) But Dave and I went to see
	WaynesworldWaynesworldExcellentPartyTime this weekend and we
	LOVED it!!  And we happen to respect one another too!!  :-)

	Anyway, as a matter of fact I loved it so much I'd love to see
	it again with a crowd of DECHeads .... we could make an adventure
	of it.  Whose up for it this weekend??  So far we have Fog, Chris,
	dc and I.  Besides that - the weather is geeting nice ... time for
	that psuedo-summer-blast we were talking about last month!!  We could
	play frisbee, do other summer-type things and then go see 
	WaynesworldWaynesworldExcellentPartyTime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Lisa

    Are ya'll gonna do this in Woooster?  Cuz if not I can volunteer
    the Cabin (I'm good at volunteering this place!!  I do it all the
    time).  We have a pretty decent size yard for frisbee etc. (many a 
    band have played to a crowd), are within walking distance to a movie 
    theater and (this is key) have no neighbors to bother or be bothered by.
    
    Heidi

I like Heidi's idea!!!  And another key point is that she checked and
WaynesworldWaynesworldExcellentPartyTime is playing at the theatre she
mentioned!!!  Sooo........ whose up for it???

Lisa

    is this for Saturday ? ok Julie and I will be there !!! what time ?
    shes got RollerSkating on Saturday and junk (as she puts it)....
    
    Chris

Yeah, I'm definitely up for it, but it has to be in the afternoon, since I'm
seeing The Band in Woosta Sat nite.

adam

    
    Nominees
    
    Best Picture:
    
        Beauty & the Beast
        Bugsy
        JFK
        The Prince of Tides
        Silence of the Lambs
        
    Best Actor:
    
        Warren Beatty - Bugsy
        Robert DeNiro - Cape Fear
        Anthony Hopkins - Silence of the Lambs
        Nick Nolte - The Prince of Tides
        Robin Williams - The Fisher King
        
    Best Actress:
    
        Geena Davis - Thelma & Louise
        Laura Dern - Ramblin' Rose
        Jodie Foster - Silence of the Lambs
        Bette Midler - For the Boys
        Susan Sarandon - Thelma & Louise
        
    Best Director:  (I copied this from movie notes - no directors were
    listed.  I know Oliver Stone did JFK and Barry Levinson did Bugsy but
    can't remember the others right now)
    
        Boyz in the Hood
        Bugsy
        JFK
        Silence of the Lambs
        Thelma & Louise
        
    Best Supporting Actor:
    
        Tommy Lee Jones - JFK
        Harvey Keitel - Bugsy
        Ben Kingsley - Bugsy
        Michael Lerner - Barton Fink
        Jack Palance - City Slickers
        
    Best Supporting Actress:
    
        Dianne Ladd - Ramblin' Rose
        Juliet Larson - Cape Fear
        Kate Nelligan - The Prince of Tides
        Mercedes Rule - The Fisher King
        Jessica Tandy - Fried Green Tomatoes
    
    
    1st time ever that an animated film was nominated for best film.  I
    would've liked to see The Fisher King in the best film category, but
    I'm at least psyched to see Robin Williams & Mercedes Rule get
    nominated.  And I think Streisand should've gotten a best director
    nomination.  
    
    And the best news of all... No dead show on Oscars night!!  :-)  Last
    year I had to tape it and not read a newspaper or listen to the radio
    or watch the news or let anyone at work talk to me for 2 whole days! 
    :-)   (I think they're March 30th)
    
    

    I'd like to see Terry Gilliam get a nomination one of these days.  He's
    made some excellent (but somewhat obscure and intellectual) movies like
    Brazil and Baron Munchausen.  The Fisher King is probably hes biggest
    commercial succcess so far.
    
    He's come a long way from being King Arthur's sidekick.
    
    Scott
    

re Heidi, .177

Yo!

So is this Wayne's World shindig still on?  Where?  Directions?  Will success
spoil Tab Hunter?  Potrzebie?

- Dave

    Yah, actually this looks like a pretty fun time. I can't go skiing this 
    weekend so I might as well go see a movie. 
    
    	I was thinking about bringing 6 fouled spark plugs and a dead
    hornet into the lab this weekend and playing with the SEM, but there 
    are two days. It'd be interesting to see if I can asses the performance
    of my engine, but bugs are the coolest samples to look at with near 1Kx
    magnification. I did this with a tic one day and the thing moved. I
    have never been freaked out by a bug quite like that. Tics are nasty!
    
    	I hope there are no tics invited to this party :-)
    
    Geoff
         

    Geoff,
    
    I'd say by that last note that you definitely need a day off!! ;-)
    
    tim
    

    The cabin is at 129 Great Rd.
    
    Okay, here's the direx.
    
    Get to rt 2A however you want.  If you take 495 get off at the
    littleton common and head towards Acton.  Go straight for a
    couple miles, straight through the lights (crossing over Rt.
    27) keep going straight on 2A which is Great Road  in Acton.
    You'll pass a lot of stores a couple of car dealerships and
    then you should see Warren Rental on the left and the 
    Beef and Ale on the right.  Right after Warren Rental there
    is a dirt driveway (on the left) there are a couple of
    mailboxes there too, that is our driveway.
    The house is a log cabin directly behind Warren Rental
    (commercial property).
    
    No one is answering the phone at the theater so I don't know
    what time the movie starts but I'm sure there are a few 
    choices.  I'd guess there's a showing around 5, 7, and 9 or
    so. 
    
    Heidi
    

    Oh and the # is 263-5506 in case ya get lost.
    
    Heidi

I'd prefer the earliest showing due to engagements in the evening.

Heidi, what is the theater we'll be going to?  I'll try to call throughout the
day to find out the times.

adam

Adam .. you're getting engaged tomorrow evening!?!?!?  Congratulations!!!

	:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 

re:      <<< Note 102.190 by RDVAX::MOLLENHAUER "Livin' Life by th' drop" >>>
>                               -< Acton Cinema >-

Well, I just got off the phone with the recording, and Wayne's World is showing
"daily" at 12:45, 2:45, 4:45, 7:10, and 9:40.  I don't know if "daily" includes
weekends, but the other movies on the recording had only "daily" showings, so I
assume it is every day.

I'd vote for 2:45 or, as a second choice, 4:45.

adam

And just what will you be engaged in Adam?  :^)








Jum

Hey, Adam, congratulations!  Who's the lucky woman?  When's the wedding?
Am I invited to the reception?

I prefer the 4:45 movie, but am not going to keel over choking, and
eventually die, if we go to one of the others.

- Dave

2:45 is OK but honestly I'd prefer 4:45 so that we could spend an hour
or two "preparing" ourselves for the movie.  Also, in the event the weather
does co-operate I'd rather not spend the afternoon hours in a theatre.
For that matter, even the later show would be good.  So that's my vote,
if we are voting.

RE: Adam:

			CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

			Who's the lucky gal????

RE: Movie

		I prefer 4:45. T.H.C & Son will be there...

Fog

    if I can go when ever Ill be there ! 

Oh oh, a DEChead consensus is required, and we have no leader ....

	o.k., I'll take the lead...

I plan on showing up at the cabin sometime between 3:45 and 4:30 to "prepare" 
to attend the 4:45 showing...

I'll veto Fog's lead.  :-)

I plan to show up earlier to prepare.  In the event we walk (Heidi said it
was walking distance) I'd assume we'll be gone by 4:30.  I figure 3:00-3:30
to meet at the cabin feels good.

First of all, let's stop this madness regarding my engagement.  I was born to
be a bachelor. :-)

I guess I've been outvoted on the movie time.  4:45's no problem as long as the
Band show in Woosta is late.  Does anyone know when it starts?  If it's a
typical club start time (10pm) there's no problem, but if it's like 7:30 there
is a problem.

adam

    Okay, I vote for 4:45 too.  Show up anytime for attitude adjustment.:-)
    
    Heidi

    we're doomed !!!! Fog is in the lead ! ok 445 is fine with me...I will
    try to make it there on time.....

    I'll try to make it on time too.:-):-)  Right Slashmon?
    
    

    
    re .200 adam
    
    The Band show starts at 7:30.. opening act The Chili Brothers..
    
    
    Don

re           <<< Note 102.197 by AWARD::CLARK "Another Dave Clark?" >>>
                                   -< egads >-

>>Oh oh, a DEChead consensus is required, and we have no leader ....



		:-)  this is funny!!!!!!!!!!1

    Sorry I got in here so late,... let me catch up if I can
    
    Congrqatulations Adam,.. long may your dandelion shine
    
    Heidi,,, seeing as how you live at the Cabin,.. this is one
    event where you actually stand a better than 50/50 chance of
    bing on time or (gasp) even early! :-) I still wouldn't put
    any money on it though :-) :-)
    
    We had previous plans to go with friends to their cabin in the
    woods in nude hampster,.. sorry I missed it,.. really would
    like to see Waynes world,. 
    
    Is it true that Joe Perry plays the theme? :-) :-)
    
    							/osmith
    

    
    
    Saw Wayne's World this past Sat. night....I hated it... NOT!!!!! %-)
    
    Party on!
    
    Steve-O_who_will_go_see_it_again_to_see_the_parts_missed_due_to_
    extremely_uncontrollable_laughter

    I saw three movies this rainy weekend.  Here's some quick reviews:
    
    The Fisher King -- I watched the first half hour, read a couple of
    chapters of a book, did some dishes, and it was STILL on.  Finally, it
    ended.
    
    Black Robe -- The best movie I've seen in years.  The perfect antidote
    to "Dances With Wolves" (which I liked, but it was too sugar coated). 
    This film is a must see if you're at all interested in the clash of
    cultures that occurred when Europeans colonized North America.
    
    Little Man Tate -- I read three magazines to pass the time.
    
    Jamie

>    The Fisher King -

	Well, *I* thought this was a wonderful flick.

    
    I saw about the last 3/4 of this movie yesterday
    and thought it was really good too.  In fact I'll
    probably watch it again to catch the beginning.
    
    

    Saw "Beethoven" this week-end ... and no, it's not about the composer,
    it's a dog (St. Bernard) movie.
    
    Cutsie and at times funny ... having lived with a dog who was half St.
    Bernard adn half Golden Retriever when I was in college, I could relate
    to a lot of the scenes.
    
    Not a great movie, but good light entertainment.
    
    ... Bob
    

    i watched something that i think was called "hidden agenda" but i'm
    not sure...  it was about the situation in Northern Ireland and an
    investigation into the death of an american lawyer who was there
    investigating civil rights abuses...  pretty good stuff as movies and
    acting go...  kinda disturbing as content goes...  another one in the
    long line of "you never know who the bad guy is" movies...  sure
    was a lot easier to tell when all you had to do was look at what color
    hat the cowboy was wearing! :^)
    
    					da ve

    re .209
    
    I should have mentioned that I've come to the conclusion that I'm just
    not a movie fan.  When I go to rent a video, I usually walk around the
    store for an hour and leave empty-handed.  When I do rent one, I rarely
    watch the whole thing and I almost always read something while it's on.
    I bet I couldn't think of ten movies that I've liked.  Please don't take
    my reviews seriously (notice how much effort I put into them :^)),
    although I still highly recommend "Black Robe."
    
    Jamie

    I saw a movie this weekend, its called "New England Sports Fan with his
    heart in his hand waiting for it to get crushed" it went on all weekend
    long too a few overtime games calls for lots-o-beer ! :') maybe I
    should rent a video or two next weekend huh !
    
    Chris

   Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure --> Hamburger --> Pink Floyd @ Pompeii.

Hamburger is the Dick Butkiss classic. The Floyd video was great: Echoes, Set 
the Controls, Axe Eugene, and some clips from studio sessions where they were
laying tracks for Dark Side of the Moon. Cool!

:-)

    Sox fan - not yet (guess Im a fairweather type)
    Celts fan - Yes (people who live around me don't need to watch, I let
    		them know by shouting at the TV)
    Bruins fan - Yes (same as above)
    
    
    I did see The Last Picture Show the other day, hadn't seen it in a long
    time....I loved the B&W feel done with this movie.
    
    Chris

    I think Pink Floyd at Pompeii is one of the best "concert" movies ever
    done.
    
    I watched a fairly new tape called "Woodstock: The Lost Performances". 
    About 70 minutes of footage not in the original movie, including The
    Band, Arlo, Melanie, Tim Hardin and CSN. Most of the tunes weren't on
    the original albums either.
    
    Also saw "Oliver!" again.  I'm not a big fan of musicals but I really
    love this movie.  Wasn't the Artful Dodger (Jack Wilde) later in H R
    Pufenstuf?
    
    Scott
    

Finally saw Wayne's World last night!

It was excellent! 
(duhhhhh!)

Definitely a classic!

But, I still think Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure was better...

Dave

	First, I agree on "Black Robe"---real good flick!

	Movies I've seen in the past week, or so:

	Life is Sweet - A British black comedy about 'family life in
post-Thatcher England.'  It has ammusing scenes, it has depressing scenes.
Not bad, if you can handle movies in the European style (i.e. they show events
that occur without seeming regard to a defined plot.).

	Basic Instinct - An excellent flick!  This is a great murder thriller,
in the same vein as Body Heat.

	Fried Green Tomatoes - Another keeper.  This has two main plots, one of
which happend during the depression, one of which is contemporary, and involves
the re-telling of the first.

Mark

    Thunder Heart is a good movie.

    
    Saw "Dead Again" last night (has nothing to do with the Boyz :^)
    
    Good thriller!!!!  Cool metaphysical concepts presented in the plot,
    too.
    
    Hogan

    IS Dead Again the one where Robin Williams plays the cooky shrink dood?
    
    If so,. yes,, great movie. Tow lines stick with me from it, both
    spoken by Robin Willams character:
    
    	1) (not sure if this is exact) In the world of karmic battles, self
    	defense is very cool
    
    	2) This gender switching sh*t happens all the time
    
    							/
    

>    IS Dead Again the one where Robin Williams plays the cooky shrink dood?
    
    Sorry, I think you have "Awakenings" there, /. Good movie too, though.
    "Dead Again" stars Kenneth Branagh as a private eye investigating
    a 40-year-old murder case, in which he also plays the victim (lots
    of flashbacks). Emma Thompson (Branagh's wife) and Derek Jacobi are
    in it too. Pairs of scissors, of varying sizes (!!) play a large part 
    in the imagery.

    ...Robert

    
    
    And Robin Williams plays the kooky shrink in addition to the others
    mentioned.  Slash does have the right movie.....those quotes were from
    the movie, too.
    
    Hogan

    re .225
    
    	Um,. OK,.. I love it when I'm right
    
    re .224
    
    	plase see .225 :-) :-)
    
    							/
    
    

>    re .224
>    	plase see .225 :-) :-)
    
	Uh, oh, okay, I'm wrong again, sorry. I'm sure it
	won't be the last time. Just making sure you're paying
	attention.

        ...Robert

    See it again - for the first time!!!!  Honestly - every time I see it
    I notice something new.   it's great. 
    
    carol

    Bill & Ted are on FOX TV tonite :')

 RE: Note 102.229 by SLOHAN::FIELDS "Its sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left Town" 

>    Bill & Ted are on FOX TV tonite :')

HEY JC, TURN ON YER TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:-)

    Re: Sleuth!!
    
    I LOVE that movie!!  I love seeing it with someone who hasn't
    seen/heard of it before - such reactions of surprise!!
    
    Heidi

while we are talking about classic movies to see and see I rented one I haven't
seen in years ... Arsenic and Old Lace.  A true comedy and pure entertainment!!

if you've never seen this movie and have a sense of humor go rent it!!  

    Arsenic and Old Lace?!?!?  Sleuth?!?!?!?!?
    
    		KILLER movies!!  :^)
    
    					da ve

    actually, Merde became Zut (Napolean cussin' up a storm in the bowling
    alley)...   i was kind of impressed... ithought they might leave
    "merde" since most people would probably be clueless and just change
    the subtitle...  they actually changed the french word and the
    subtitles!
    
    speaking of tv translations, it was really funny the other day to be
    watchinga show on teh cliff divers in Acapulco...  the diver was
    talking in spanish and a narrator/translator was talking over it...
    my friend watching with me is trilingual...  what the narrator was
    saying on tv wasn't even close to what the diver was actually saying in
    spanish!!!
    
    they could take a lesson from Bill and Ted's editors who were
    most bodaciously linguistically accurate...  dude...  :^)
    
    					da ve

    Just in case you can't get enough of Bill n Ted, they're going
    to be on a series on Fox this summer. :-/

    Re: Arsenic and Old Lace. I saw this as a play once. I was maybe
    10 or so and hadn't been to any real professional plays before
    and was a bit reluctant to even go but did I ever enjoy this show.
    Definately changed my mind as to how a play could be 8^)
    
    Andy

    Arsenic and Old Lace is definitely a classic,.. if you haven't seen
    it,, check it out
    
    								/
    

From:	US1RMC::"ALICEFAN@WKUVX1.BITNET" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 20-MAY-1992 09:22:51.80
To:	alicefan@WKUVX1.BITNET
CC:	
Subj:	Alice item from _People Weekly_

From the May 4, 1992, issue of _People Weekly_ ("Chatter" column):

        WORTHY TRIBUTE

        A funny thing keeps happening to Alice Cooper since his cameo
        in the hit movie _Wayne's World_.  Cooper, 44, who lives in
        Scottsdale, Arizona, says that now when he goes to movies or a
        7-Eleven, fans make like Wayne and Garth, going overboard on
        paying him homage.  "Somebody says, `Hey, Alice,' and it
        immediately starts: `We're not worthy, we're not worthy!'
        Everplace I go now, same thing," says Cooper.  "I was at
        a [Phoenix] Suns [basketball] game, and there was a whole
        section going, `We're not worthy, we're not worthy!'"  How
        does Cooper feel about all this fan appreciation? "[My] last
        album was titled _Hey Stoopid_.  So for a year I had to hear
        `Hey, stupid!'  This is better."

Hunter Goatley, VMS Systems Programmer, Western Kentucky University
goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251

Hah!

 Saw Batman returns yesterday...I haven't decided if I like it as much as the
first, but it was a good movie.  Special effects were quite good, and it had
the Tim Burton "feel" to it.  Danny DeVito was very good, and Michelle Pfeiffer
was, uh, wonderful :-)




Jum

    Yeah,.. ever since she sang "Making Whoopie (sp?)" in that
    move about the fabulous Baker Boys,.. I've uh,. er um,.. been quite in 
    love :-}
    
    							/
    

 Oohh...I forgot about that :-}  She was wearing red for that too, right 8-Q







 Jum

    
    I saw one good movie and one bad this weekend.  
    
    The Waterdance was the good one.  A serious subject (paraplegics) but
    concentrated more on emotions and relationships and not just physical
    handicaps, so it wasn't really depressing.  We all liked it.
    
    The bad one was Patriot Games.  Formulaic, boring, predictable.. blech.  
    It was father's day so Dad got to pick the movie.  Good thing that only
    happens once a year. ;-)
    
    

I rented two good movies:

	- The Doctor - William Hurt is EXCELLENT in this.

	- Truly, Madly, Deeply - another Ghost love story...but MUCH better
		than GHOST.  

    came home last nite in a state of delierium (sp) from woodcutting,
    4-wheelin and drinkin all weekend....Patty had WAYNES WORLD rented...
    pretty funny for the state my mind was in (and it wasn't the state of
    Colo!)
                           rfb
    
    PARTY ON GARTH!

    Awesome!  rfb and I both watched Wayne's World and drank homebrews last
    night!  But did we both shwing for Tia Carrere?  :^)
    
    What exactly does "shwing" mean?  I used to think they were saying
    Scwhinn and making some kind of lewd bike seat reference.
    
    And, I've gotten oh-so-many requests for more movie reviews . . .
    
    Thelma & Louise -- rewound after the attempted rape scene and bitched
    at the video store guy for putting this in the comedy section.
    
    City Slickers -- I thought I finally found something I'd like Billy
    Crystal in; I was wrong.  Made me ashamed of my manliness, if not my
    manhood.
    
    Silence of the Lambs -- able to bear almost half an hour, somehow. 
    Took the $6 I would've spent on a theater ticket and donated it to the
    Jesse Helms campaign.
    
    The Commitments -- Great movie, great music.  I wish they'd had some
    original material, but that's a minor nit.
    
    And, the best "line" from Wayne's World:
    
    
    The "No Stairway To Heaven" sign in the guitar shop!!  Where can I get
    one?
    
    Jamie

   
     I watched The Hand That Rocks The Cradle saturday night.

   Left me with a warm feeling in the end. The first suspense film
   to leave me feeling good in a long time.


   Shawn

   BTW For those that remember me... I'm BACK...

  ...for awhile any ways.

re:  <<< Note 102.248 by CSLALL::BRIDGES "thrice the brinded cat hath mewed." >>>
   
>     I watched The Hand That Rocks The Cradle saturday night.

	I was just gonna enter a note on this one.  Good flick!!

	Ken

    
    
    Don't really know if this belongs in this note or not but...
    
    I saw Grand Canyon last night (after trying to get Stacy to go for
    Wayne's Werld!)  
    
    This is the only movie I can say I honestly don't know whether I liked
    it or not!  It was stressful throughout, there was precious little
    plot, and it kind of made cynical reference to this thing called life.
    
    But it was alluring nonetheless....  I can't figure it out...
    
    Tree

re: schwing

My speculation is that it refers to the angular displacement of a certain male
body part upon proper visual or mental stimulation of said male.

Jamie, I'm surprised you didn't think of it yourself (or did you? :-))

adam_SHWIIIIIING!

    
    	re Jamie
    
    	You can find one of those "No Stairway" signs in almost
    any guitar/music store right now,... :-)
    
    					/who_played_a_little_stairway
    					the_other_day_while_checking
    					out_a_geetar_just_to_buck
    					the_sign-:-)
    
    ps
    
    	re schwing,...... you can't be serious? :-) :-) :-0
    

Strange Brew was the most recent movie I watched (In June, while basking in
Tennessee).  Good movie to watch along with many brews...

Last nights rental - 

The Hand That Rocks the Cradle -- Another movie with the "Fatal Attraction" 
theme, but thought it was good - Two thumbs up from Glenn & Danielle....

    my kids have been trying to get to watch "the hand" with them....
    my speed is more Waynes World %^)
    rfb

    Saw Medicine Man starring Sean Connery.  He a chemist who lived in the
    rain forests of Brazil for 6 years doing research.  
    
    Great stuff about the rainforests and how it's steadily being burned
    and plowed down.
    
    A good movie with a great message.  Hopefully the message reached the
    non-PBS viewing public.
    
    I can remember seeing my first documentary on the rainforest and it's
    destruction;  that was about 4 - 5 years ago!!
    
    dave

    Chris and I watched Rush last week and again this weekend.
    
    Wow -- anyone who knows what coke can do will know what GREAT
    acting was done in this movie.
    
    Cool soundtrack!
    
    :)
    
    

    acting?    don't know greg very well do we??? %^)
    I agree, what a sneaky little devil that stuff is....
    rfb 

    
    Yes! Finally.  I've been in serious oh-my-god-there's-8-million-new-
    ones-out-there-and-I-haven't-seen-any-mode! for a while now, but I
    finally had some time to catch a few.  Note to any movie lovers out
    there:  This is when all the best ones come out.  In time to qualify
    for the oscars, but not so far from nomination time that the judges
    will have forgotten about them.  
    
    Glengarry Glen Ross - This was incredible.  Pure, powerful, acting.
    Great direction which only heightened what were already intense
    performances.  Written by David Mamet (and based on his pulitzer prize
    winning play).  Starring Jack Lemmon (should get an oscar nomination),
    Al Pacino (maybe one here too), Ed Harris, Alec Baldwin, Kevin Spacey,
    Jonathan Price, Alan Arkin.
    
    Last of the Mohicans - Well, I was disappointed.  I think my
    expectations were too high, which didn't help.  I'd read and heard a
    lot of "epic" type comments and I don't think it was in that category
    at all.  Daniel Day Lewis was great (and gorgeous! ;-), the
    cinematography was beautiful and worth catching on a big screen, and it
    is a good, fun, adventure.  I just don't think it's as fantastic as the
    press it's getting.  I found the language really weird.  Has anyone
    else seen this yet?  This is during the French and Indian war which is
    pre-revolutionary.  Yet the colonists use, well, I don't know, almost
    slang, and a lot of very American sounding expressions, etc.  It just
    didn't feel real to me.  At this point, they're still British subjects
    and I don't think they'd sound that American yet.  Maybe I'm wrong, but
    a lot of the dialogue sounded out of place and funny to us.  I read the
    book in college but don't remember it at all.  I wonder how closely
    they followed it.
    
    Husbands and Wives - This one I loved and was helped by my
    expectations.  I had heard it was okay, not his best, but great because
    it's so topical, etc.  Well, I thought it was brilliant.  Classic Woody
    Allen.  Great dialogue, a lot of wit, very funny, very sad, very
    everything all at once. :-)  The one thing I didn't like was the way it
    was filmed.  They used some sort of strange camera technique that felt
    like the whole movie was filmed with a hand held camera (maybe it was). 
    So the whole movie felt like you were on a roller coaster ride.  I
    think the point was to make the audience feel as unsettled as the
    characters, but it went way overboard.  I was slightly nauseous for
    most of the movie.  My friend Robin was practically green and almost
    left at one point.  I actually had to stop and get a bottle of seltzer
    on the way home and the bus was NOT fun. :-/  Don't even eat popcorn.
    
    Has anyone seen Of Mice and Men yet?  I think that'll be next..
    
    :-)
    
    

    Phyllis,  haven't seen any of these but have heard a bit that would
    clear up some points.  Last of the Mohican's does follow the book, but
    not that closely.  Apparently James Fenimore Cooper was a product of
    his age and his characters had all the prejudices and stereotyped
    portraits you might expect (Twain was pretty set against Cooper
    at the time due to some of these things).  Michael Mann (I believe)
    fleshed things out a bit to be attractive to today's audience, while
    still paying exacting attention to detail.
    Husband's and Wive's was shot with a hand-held camera from the articles
    that I've read about it.
    
    PeterT
    

    About pre-colonial accents:  was it similar to a southern accent? 
    Linguists think today's southern accent is closer to the colonial
    English accent than the current English accent is.
    
    Ann Thropologist
    

    
    No, it wasn't an accent, it was the actual figures of speech that
    were weird.  Coloquialisms that I just thought were developed a whole
    lot later than the 1700s.  
    
    

    This is the first time I've written in this file, but I've been reading
    it for a while...Has anyone seen the movie 'Singles' yet?

    
    Not yet, but it's on my list.  (Looks like it'll be good)
    
    

I saw "Sneakerz" (sp?) last week with a couple of friends.  It appealed to
my geeky side... :-)

- jeff
    

    I saw Sneakers, too...The people we went with were seeing it a second
    time.  I thought it was O.K., but it's not the kind of movie I would
    spend $7 to go see again.  It was still a good movie, though..,.
    
    	danielle

    
    Still playing catch up time:
    
    "Gas, Food, and Lodging" - Great, low-budget, coming of age type movie
    about a single mom and two daughters living in a trailer park in a
    small, New Mexico desert town.  We all loved it.  It's shot really
    well, some really nice scenery, good soundtrack.. definately worth
    checking out.
    
    "Sarafina" - Another good one from Whoopi.  Beautiful and powerful are
    the two strongest images you leave with.  Made me ashamed to belong
    to the white race.   Made me *very* sorry I missed the show on
    Broadway.
    
    "Bob Roberts" - 3 for 3 here. :-)  This is very well done.  Funny; VERY
    scary.  Basically shows how a David Duke or a Jesse Helms could (and
    does) happen.  I don't think anyone in the theater moved until all the
    credits were done rolling.  Interesting side note:  I saw this
    yesterday, and also yesterday started reading Anne Rice's "The Witching
    Hour."  TWH is a pretty scary book.. witches and devils and ghosts and
    all ;-), and I never really read scary stuff and was wondering if I'd
    have a nightmare.  Well, I did.  About Bob Roberts.  Glad to know
    my subconscience is on the ball!  If I'm gonna lose some sleep, at
    least let it be over something that matters.  :-)
    
    Still on the list:  "Of Mice and Men", "A River Runs Through It",
    "Howard's End", "Zebrahead", "Night and the City".
    
    

>>     started reading Anne Rice's "The Witching Hour."  
>>     TWH is a pretty scary book.. witches and devils and ghosts and
>>     all ;-)
    
    
    My Pegan friend loves this book.  She refuses to tell me about
    it though, just says that I have to read it when she's done! Is
    it _really_ scary or was that ;-) counteracting the "pretty
    scary book" part?
    
    :) sparky
    
    I'd rather read another book she's reading. ;-)

    
    It's a little spooky, but not really scary.  I read about 200 pages
    yesterday and have been loving it.
    
    Have you read "The Mists of Avalon"?
    
    

    
    One more off the list:
    
    A River Runs Through It - I *loved* this movie.  The story was great,
    the cinematography breathtaking, the direction and overall filming was
    seemless - just one of those films that wraps you up in a warm blanket
    and floats you along for a couple of hours.  It's got oscar written all
    over it.  Definately worth seeing on a big screen.
    
    

re       <<< Note 102.270 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "in the shadow of the moon" >>>
                                   -< **** >-
What's "A River Runs Through It" about, Phyllis?

- Dave living in a Cave

    Fly fishing (fly casting?)
    
    PeterT
    

    
    I thought both lead actors were very good, but I never read the book.
    It's basically the story of two brothers growing up in Montana.  Their
    father is a preacher and avid fly fisherman who teaches the art of fly
    fishing to his sons as he teaches them about life.  The film is
    narrated by Redford, who is (presumably) reading from the novel.
    
    

    
    Yes.
    
    Go see "Malcolm X"
    
    

    Don't see Dracula.  Wait until it hits the video rentals.  As some
    rapper in Public Enemy says:
    
    "Don't believe da hype!"
    
    We were quite dissapointed.  A very hard to follow movie.  Luckily we
    all know the general theme of it!  I'd give the whole movie a big D if
    I were a critic. I only play one when I pay $6+ for a movie!!  And that
    ain't too often.
    
    dave

    I'll second that!  We walked out of it a little over halfway
    through I think.  Of course we had run out of alcohol and the
    cabin was a short walk away!;-)
    
    chaotic individual

	Yep, Dracula was a BIG disappointment.

Mark

	So Dracula doesn't sound like a movie you *count* on and 
	sink your teeth into eh ?   :-{) 

    oh Ken that SUCKED !

    
    hey hey hey!  Puns in the I love Movies note will not be tolerated!!
    
    IS NOTHING SACRED????????
    
    ;-)
    
    

C'mon guys, there's alot at stake here.

Didn't it dawn on you that Phyllis would cross your paths...

This conversation bears no reflection on me...

Dave

	Really.   It's enough to ruin a gooood eeeevening, these
	new FANGled rewrites of old flicks, except perhaps for 
	Cape fear.  They must have been coffin a lot after that storm!

	Ken

Phyllis is gonna be out of here like a bat out of hell ...

You said it, to her these puns are a pain in the neck!

    
    what's interesting, is the amount of people who I owe tapes who are
    participating in this sacrilege.  Just keep checking your mailboxes
    guys.. I'm sure they'll be there any day now..  ;-)
    
    

	Yeah, let's reVAMP this topic.

	;-)

	Well, I finally saw JFK this past weekend (I rented it).  A pretty 
intense film, IMO.  Some boring spots in the middle, but man, the end made
up for it...  very, very, very, triple very scary stuff that Oliver Stone
proposes there.  It is hard for me to say that I believe the Stone / Garrison
theory or not without reading more about the subject.  If it was a gov't
plot, I don't know how i'd react....  I'd really like to see _all_ the JFK
files opened up for investigation.  If there was a conspiracy, it'll be known
or put to rest.

	Scary film ... if you haven't seen it, check it out.  189 minutes.

There was an interesting news program on a couple weeks ago about the
JFK Assasination as related to the mob.  Sorry, but I'm lousy with the
names, but the program was an interview with the attorney for the
major Mafia figures from the 50's and 60's, including major figures
in New Orleans and Tampa.  Apparently, the Tampa boss ordered the hit
and the New Orleans guy found the people - Oswald and Ruby - to do it.
By going after Hoffa, they were getting too close to the real core of
the Mafia leadership, and were about to indict some of them...

This guy was pretty convincing.  He said Garrison was building up the
government conspiracy bit purely to sensationalize himself and his 
book.  The Kennedy's were after the mob, the mob took out JFK to get
rid of both him and his brother in one move.  They hired Oswald to
take the fall, and Ruby to clean up the mess.

It worked.

tim

P.S. It also makes Bobby's assasination look a bit suspicious too...

Finally rented Basic Instinct.  I used to have this fantasy about meeting
a rich, gorgeous blonde.  So much for that one.

I liked the flick, though.  Best taken with a little valium, I think...;-)

tim

    from what i've heard...never let yer woman watch basic instinct!!! %^)
    
    scary sh*t to me!!!!!!!!!!
    
    re :best taken with....
    
    or a combonation of several things!!! YIKES!!!
    
    rfb

Well in the last few weeks Pam and I have actually had time to watch a 
couple of movies.  Most were very good and one was poor-fair, but 
entertaining.

Medicine Man - This is a wonderful movie. Highlighted by astounding scenery 
and very good acting by Sean Connery and his female co-star, whose name I 
can't remember, this movie may help to raise american's consciousness 
regardign the importance of the rain forests and the destruction that is 
going on there.  (When will we try to stop this destruction in the United 
States only remaining rain forest)

Rush - For the most part a fairly realistic account of what could and 
probably does happen to many narcotics agents.  However, the 25 minutes 
were totally unrealistic and completely erased any credibility that this 
movie may have had.  However it was quite entertaining and has a wonderful 
soundtrack.  (Original music by Eric Clapton)

The Rocketeer - We recorded this when we had the free Disney preview a 
couple of months ago and just got to watch it last night.  I'm psyched to 
have this movie on tape.  I can tell it will stand up to multiple viewings 
and will become a family favorite.  Good story, good acting and some great 
stunts highlight this film about 1938 America and a down-home boy who saves 
the world from the evil 3rd Reich.

Zardoz - Older Science Fiction movie starring Sean Connery.  From the 
effects and the clothing styles and other nuances I would say that this 
movie came out in the early 70's.  Not much of a plot, not very good acting 
for the most part and a fairly overused storyline this movie was the least 
impressive of the recent films that we have seen.  However it was 
entertaining for a sunday morning wake-n-bake movie.  In ways it reminded 
me of the tv series, "The Prisioner", but it wasn't nearly as well done as 
that show was.

That's it for now.

Geoff

    ditto Medicine Man, grate movie..
    
    re: the 25 minutes in Rush?? what significance is 25 mins??
    
    ditto rocketter...
    rfb

Just saw "Aladdin".  Very entertaining.  I didn't know Robin Williams was the
voice of the Genie.  That was a pleasant surprise.  I'd recommend it.

adam

    
    My boyfriend and I attempted to go see Aladdin the other
    night but it was sold out!  Definately on my list to see!
    
    MJ

    Yeah Adam, a nice movie indeed! I liked the parrot as well with
    Gilbert Godfried doing the voice :^)

    
    I loved Aladdin!  I thought there was more there for adults than kids.
    Definately worth seeing.
    
    There's a lot of great movies out now.  My to-see list hasn't been this
    long in a while.. Scent of a Woman, Hoffa, Lorenzo's Oil, Passion Fish,
    The Lover, Leap of Faith,...
    
    Maybe one of you guys with 8 weeks of vaca time to use up could pass
    one over this way so I can have some time to see some of these! ;-)
    
    

yeah, aside from my long list of things to see (hey Jum and MJ, when are we
gonna go see the Muppets? :-) I saw Aladin for the second time this weekend
with Dave.  The first time I was with my nephews and pushing a nice fever so
I didn't catch alot and besides, it was one of those movies I wanted to see
with Dave.  Very entertaining - Robin Williams was incredible!  A perfect part
for him!!

Lisa

    I mentioned this somewhere else...Patty and I saw Forever Young right
    after Xmas for our 18th anaversary of our first date. Grate love story
    with a little comedy and drama thrown in.
    rfb
    

>                     <<< Note 102.293 by CXDOCS::BARNES >>>
>
>    ditto Medicine Man, grate movie..
>    
>    re: the 25 minutes in Rush?? what significance is 25 mins??
>    
>    ditto rocketter...
>    rfb


I don't know if was exactly the last 25 min, but it was the end of the 
movie.

Warning: Spoiler follows, don't read if you are planning to see the movie 
and haven't



Any person with any sense of self preservation would have gottenas far out 
of town as possible after making so many arrests.

Also, if they had to stay in town and take the trailer that they did, they 
should have thought to park their vehicles several miles away and taken a 
cab.

All in all though I really liked the movie.

Geoff

    I saw Hoffa.  Great acting by Jack Nicholson!  I saw a picture of the
    real Hoffa and Jack looks just like him.  
    
    I knew nothing of Hoffa before this.  Text books from the 70's while I
    was in school didn't go past mid 1950's!!  This movie was a good
    history lesson for me.
    
    My next movie hit list: Chaplin.
    
    dave

    
    I saw Lorenzo's Oil last night.  This movie was great!  It's the true
    story of a boy named Lorenzo who is diagnosed with ALD (a horrible,
    degenerative disease that is always fatal and that I can't even attempt
    to spell, sorry.)  The story revolves around his parents' search for a
    treatment/therapy once they discover there is none.  It was absolutely
    riveting, all the more so, because you know you're watching a true
    story.  I don't think anyone in the theater got up before all the
    credits were done rolling.  The movie stars Nick Nolte and Susan
    Sarandon as Lorenzo's parents.
    
    

re: Hoffa

I liked DeVito's acting better than Jack's...  ...and while the movie was
entertaining, it was lacking in emotion.  It just didn't do the grab-n-shake
like Scarface did.

- jeff

Anyone see "Reservoir Dogs"?   I'd like to know how it was.  I missed it
but will rent it when it's out on video.

thx
bob

    
    I didn't, but a couple of my friends did.  They thought the movie was
    great but said it was VERY bloody.  
    
    

    
    I've been in major movie-catch-up mode and have seen several that I
    recommend:
    
    The Crying Game - I thought this movie was brilliant and I hope it gets
    a best picture nomination.  The best way to go see it is knowing
    nothing so that's what I'm gonna tell you.  :-)
    
    Howard's End - okay, so it took me a year to see this, but I finally
    did and it was wonderful.  I would expect best director, actress, and
    costume nominations, at the very least.  It's a period piece, so you
    have to like that kind of stuff, but if you do, you will love this.  
    
    Passion Fish - Another good one; great performances by Alfre Woodard
    and Mary McDonough (both those names are probably spelled wrong).  
    
    Scent of a Woman - Al Pacino was fantastic - the movie was a little too
    hollywood for me (especially the ending) but there were some really
    great scenes.  
    
    Tous les Matins du Monde - beautiful foreign film about spirituality
    and music and life.  Deadheads should appreciate it! 
    
    

    
    Oscar Nominations (incomplete list)
    
    Movie:
    
    Howards End
    Unforgiven
    Scent of a Woman
    The Crying Game
    A Few Good Men
    
    Actor:
    
    Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
    Robert Downey Jr., Chaplin
    Denzel Washington, Malcolm X
    Steven Ray, The Crying Game
    Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven
    
    Actress:
    
    Emma Thompson, Howards End
    Susan Sarandon, Lorenzos Oil
    Michele Pheiffer, Love Field
    Mary McDonnell, Passion Fish
    Catherine Deneuve, Indochine
    
    Director:
    
    Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven
    James Ivory, Howards End
    Neil Jordan, The Crying Game
    Robert Altman, The Player
    ?, Scent of a Woman
    
    Supporting Actor:
    
    Al Pacino, Glengarry Glen Ross
    Jack Nicholson, A Few Good Men
    Gene Hackman, Unforgiven
    ?, Mr. Saturday Night
    Jaye Davidson, The Crying Game
    
    Supporting Actress:
    
    Miranda Richardson, Damage
    Joan Ploughright, Enchanted April
    Judy Davis, Husbands & Wives
    ?
    ?
    
    I am very psyched to see The Crying Game get it's due - it was a really
    fantastic, original, movie.  I can't believe Scent of a Woman got
    nominated as best picture - I didn't think it was anywhere near that
    caliber.  I'm disappointed that The Player didn't get nominated as best
    picture.  Looks like it's time to go see Unforgiven.
    
    I hope The Crying Game wins Best Picture.
    
    

WOW!  Clint Eastwood cleaned up a bit!  I still want to see that Unforgiven
movie.


I used to be a big CLint fan!

    Does anyone know how a movie called "At Play in the Field of the Lord"
    ends? We rented the video this weekend and the tape snapped almost
    near the end of the second tape (it clocks in at 3 hours plus a few
    minutes)! The video person didn't know how it ended, and didn't have
    another copy of the movie available, and the MOVIE notes file got wiped
    out that mentioned this movie.
    
    We're dying of curiosity and don't want to sit through it again. It
    wasn't that good, IMO.
    
    If you get a chance *definitely* catch "The Crying Game!" This is one
    of the best movies I've seen in a couple of years.
    
    Mike

    
    Yikes, Mike!  I would freak if that happened to me.  I'll ask around,
    I'm sure someone saw it.  All I remember was great cast, terrible
    reviews.  Did you like it?
    
    Agreed on The Crying Game.  I think it was the best movie I saw all
    year.
    
    

Wow, I havn't seen a single one of those movies! Tells ya how much my life 
has changed since a little munchkin schlorped into it. I used to be more of 
movie fiend than Phyllis!

Well, at least JC can't acuse me of being glued to the screen all the time.


:-)   :-)   :-)

    <<< Note 102.310 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "in the shadow of the moon" >>>
    
    
    >>Yikes, Mike!  I would freak if that happened to me.  I'll ask
    >>around, I'm sure someone saw it.  All I remember was great cast, 
    >>terrible reviews.  Did you like it?
    
    Thanks, Phyllis. No, neither one of us cared for it but figured after
    investing that much time we should at least know how it ended:-). It
    did have an excellent cast but deserved the rank reviews. If they had
    cut this by about an hour it could have been a decent movie. 
    
    Mike
    
    

    
    here's the names I was missing:
    
    The nominee for best supporting actor from Mr. Saturday Night is David
    Paymer.
    
    The 2 missing best supporting actress nominees are Vanessa Redgrave for
    Howards End and Marisa Tomei for My Cousin Vinny.
    
    

    
    okay, Mike, I found out a little for you.  A friend at work (Lisa) saw
    it but didn't like it at all and doesn't remember everything.
    
    Here's a form feed in case anyone's spurred on by these great remarks
    to go and rent it themselves. ;-)
    
    
    Lisa thinks Tom Berenger gets killed.
    Aidan Quinn and Kathy Bates' son dies from black water something and
    Kathy Bates goes crazy.  She wants to leave.  Lisa thinks that the
    couple do end up leaving.
    She doesn't remember what happens with Darryl Hannah but she thinks she
    just stays married to John Lithgow.
    
    Hope that helps a little anyway.
    
    

    

>    Kathy Bates goes crazy.  She wants to leave.  Lisa thinks that the

Kathy Bates, crazy?  NO!  ;^)

- DC

    Thanks, Phyllis. That saved us the agony of having to watch this dog
    again:-)

>I'm her biggest fan!

Ha!!!

re           <<< Note 102.311 by CSCMA::M_PECKAR "Question reality" >>>


>Well, at least JC can't acuse me of being glued to the screen all the time.
>
>
>:-)   :-)   :-)


	I'm laughin' here mon!!! :-)

	geez,i didn't think i "abused" ya _that_ bad mon?!?!?!

:-)

    
        i just heard that the coneheads are coming out with a full length
    
     feature film this summer! 8^)
                                                   ^dave

    Time to consume mass quantities!

I hope they stick with Dan Ackroyd, Laraine Newman and Jane Curtin!

I also heard Wayne's World 2 is in the works.

adam

> I hope they stick with Dan Ackroyd, Laraine Newman and Jane Curtin!
    
    That's what I read, though I doubt I could tell you where or when
    said article was read.
    
    PeterT
    

Someone must have identified a mindless humor shortage....

sigh.

    This one's been out for a while and although I had heard a lot of good
    things about it, I just got around to seening "K2" the other day.
    
    Not a "great movie" in the sense of storyline/plot/character
    development but a good movie all the same.
    
    Its a story of two mtn. climbing buddies who hook up with a group of
    mountaineers planning on climbing K2 (Godwin/Austen), the second
    highest peak on earth.  (Some dispute this as they believe that K2 may
    be higher than Everest.)  It touches on their relationship with each
    other and the rest of the world.  Exciting photography and good but not
    really detailed expedition stuff.  The story also examines the ideas of
    friendship, honor and redemption.
    
    I like it a lot and recommend it to anyone.  
    
    Marv
    
    NOTE: My wife had a bit of a hard time with this one because she "just
    knew" someone was going to get killed.  Some tension.
    

    
    I just saw "The Crying Game" this past weekend and I thought
    it was great.  Just to re-state others comments in this note...
    Go see it if you have a chance - it's great!  
    
    and a question for those who saw it.. was it rated R or NC17?
    I can't remember.

Thanks MJ, I've been interested in going to see that one lately, but...

Well, on a less serious note, I felt I should show my son some 
appreciation for his hard work in school lately, so I surprised
him last night by taking him to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III.

Now, as a Dad, I've had to sit through all three of these things,
but I have to say that this one was easily the best of the three.
It was cute kids' stuff, not the garbage rap-encrusted junk of the
previous sequel.  Much more endurable, I guess.

If you know a kid who's a turtlehead, this is the one to see.

Awesome.

Dood.

;-)

tim

P.S. I rented My Cousin Vinny, just to balance my psyche a bit....:-)

    The Crying Game is an excellent movie.  It challenges our attitudes in
    political and moral grounds.  A great study of aspects of human nature.
    
    There is a "surprise" in the movie that you may or may not have heard
    about.  You won't hear it from me.  However, to me, the real surprise
    is how one reacts to it rather than the surprise itself.
    
    My favorite for Best Movie Oscar.
    
    Marv
    

    
    The Crying Game was the best movie of the year (imnotsoho, of course)
    :-)
    
    

    
    
    ok daves everywhere!!!!!  it's happened!!!!  :^) :^) :^)
    
    all those Bob's thought they were something else when they made a movie
    about them, asking the age old question "what about Bob??"
    
    ok, a good movie, to be sure, but we daves knew intrinsically that
    the best was yet to come...  a new movie is out now that is DESTINED
    for GRATENESS just by virtue of it's title and subject matter...
    yep, you guessed it!!  that movie is called, simply,
    
    			"Dave"
    
    i don't know about the rest of you, but i for one, have GOT to see
    it...  :^)  if i understand it, Dave is also made PRESIDENT of the US
    of A!!!  hmmmm, why does that seem somehow familiar???   :^)
    reviews so far have used words like "charming" (of course) "brilliant"
    (naturally) and "witty" (could there be any doubt???)...
    
    i don't know when it's playing, but i propose a GRATEFUL DAVE FIELD
    TRIP!!!!!   whadayasay daves?????
    
    					da ve

	NPR's movie critic panned "Dave", but then, his name is Bob.

	If this get's you excited you may be interested in checking out
a reletively new folk song called "Dave's Holiday."  Unfortunately, I can't
remember who does it at the moment.  It includes two Daves, in fact:

	Dave has a dog,
	But the dog hasn't got a name.
	Dave has a dog,
	But the doesn't have a name.
	So we call it Dave - 
	Dave's dog, Dave.

Mark

    
    >> i don't know when it's playing, but i propose a GRATEFUL DAVE FIELD
    >> TRIP!!!!!   whadayasay daves?????                                  
    
         sounds cool!! i heard this is supposed to be a really good movie,
       but what else would you expect with such a great title! ;^)
    
                                                            ^dave
                                                                    

    Dave's Holiday is written by Patty Larkin, and it's hilarious.
    
    tim
    

    >>i don't know when it's playing, but i propose a GRATEFUL DAVE FIELD
    >>TRIP!!!!!                                                ^^^^^^^^^^
    
    
    Shouldn't that be a "Chris Field" trip?   I mean what makes you Daves
    think you can just take a guy's name and use it for your own twisted
    purposes?  I mean names are personal and special (all except "Dave" and
    "Bob" that is.)  
    
    ma rv
    
    P.S.
     Bzillions of these things --->   :-)
    
    

Awright, Da ve!!!

I was actually going to post a note almost exactly like you did!  

I am most certain in for the GRATEFUL DAVE FIELD (not Chris) TRIP!  I
suppose that Chris would be welcome to attend, too, tho'! :-)

> ma rv

Ya' know, just 'cause the guy has a 4 letter name that happens to have
an 'a' and a 'v' in it, he thinks he can hang with the Dave's...Pshaw!

:-) multiplied by billyons and billyons...

    Ok,  I went to see "Dave" as a sneak preview and all I can say is that
    it's pretty cute.  Some very funny scenes, Kevin Kline is very charming
    and Signorney (sp?) Weaver has a definte comic side to her.
    
    I will recomend it as light, escapist fare.  Especially, if you want to
    see a "movie", not a "film"!
    
    Fredda
    
    P.S. Charles Grodin steals the film as Dave's accountant friend!

    well now noone has taken the name ! I do have a Brother DAVE ! so its
    not so bad but you did leave off the "S" no savings here ! :')
    
    Chris_with_a_bro_dave
    

Light, escapist fare ... sounds perfect.  I'm there!

- Dave

>ma rv


This is something that they have down south.  Me and ma brother are takin' 
ma rv to Utah this weekend...

:-)

I'm sorry, but unless "Dave" is 14 feet high, has 12 jaws, and bleeds pure 
acid, then I can't possibly imagine him in a leading role with Sigourney 
Weaver, especially in a movie critics say is "cute".

:-)

    
    If you have a Colorado field trip I''' make it..
    
    Chris can come but he'll have to be Dave for a day!!!
    
    
      . .
       ,
    \_____/
    
    Divide Dave
    
    

    re fog...
    
    dude, that wasn't a *real* dave...  only a hollywood stunt dave 
    in an alien suit...  :^)
    
    					da ve  

    
    well I dreamt about cloning last night.. ;-}
    
    Has anyone else seen Jurassic Park yet?  It's worth the hype - it was a
    lot of fun.  Definately see it somewhere with a big screen and good
    surround-sound.  The first hour is a little boring but once the
    dino-action gets going it's terrific.  Don't take little kids!  It was
    very scary!!  I think it should've been PG-30 - I know I kept covering
    my eyes! ;-)
    
    

    
    oh yeah - and we got a preview for The Flintstones next summer with
    John Goodman as Fred! :-)
    
    

I saw it ... excellent special effects.  The first time they show you a
dinosaur is kinda awe-inspiring.

Typical Spielburg (sp?) movie though ... great FX, short on character 
development and plot, a bit goofy and cute at times.

I went to the 10pm show to avoid noisy li'l' kids :^).  Was horrified to
see the theater filled with teenagers ... I like 'em and everything but they
tend to make noise in order to call attention to themselves ... but the movie
kept 'em quiet.

Tyngsboro Cinema Popcorn report:

	Crunchy, but not overpowering ... a hint of artificial butter
	which was not cloying given its scarcity ... the salt was
	precocious and aggressive, slightly turbulent and omniscient.

Two thumbs up, because I have two hands.

- DC

    What a thriller indeed!!! As Phyllis said after the 1st hour it rilly
    gets going and keeps coming at you!!! 
    
    Enjoy! Andy

Re: Jurasic Park

It's definitely on the list of go-to-the-actual-theater-and-see-it flicks.
Maybe this weekend, who knows...

Rented "A River Runs Through It" the other night - terrific cinematography,
and a very nice story.  Makes ya wanna start a dental floss farm...;-)

tim

Went last night, but by the time we got to White City Plaza (after giving 
baby sitter instructions, peeling screeming kid off leg, feeding ourselves, 
then stopping by bank to withdraw the 27 bazzillion we'd need for tickets 
and Ju-ju-bees), they were sold out...

    You didn't go into the movie 'cause they were sold out of Ju-ju-bees!? 
    Couldn't you have brought some with you?
    
    ;^)

    A hate to end the Jurrasic Park lovefest, but....
    
    Baring the special effects (which are wonderful), I think the film is a
    bit over-rated.  Like Phyllis (who was asking me what was happening
    while her eyes were closed! as were mine!) this is not a film for the
    little people.  It's very violent (forget Barney!) and quite a bit
    hokey!  In many places it reminded me of Indiana Jones (hero,
    girlfriend, let's save the day for humanity).  The music is overblowen
    and it takes a good 45 minutes to get going.   On the 1-10 scale, I'd
    give it a 5 1/2.
    
    Fredda

> On the 1-10 scale, I'd give it a 5 1/2.
  
...so, is '1' good or is '1' bad???

;-)

    1 is bad - very, very bad....
    
    ft

    
    speaking of bad - very, very bad...
    
    I got dragged to see the Last Action Hero. Granted I wasn't expecting 
    much but geesh this exceeded itself in the awful department. Actually
    there were a couple of humorous lines but the plot (or lack there of),
    corny lines and lousy acting overshadowed them. I think ASs best 
    movies are those that he speaks the fewest lines. ;-)
    
    I give this one two thumbs down, but only because I don't have more
    hands. ;-) The popcorn was good, can't believe I actually found a 
    theatre that uses real butter instead of that neon grease. 
    
    :-Chuck                                                    

    I saw Jurassic Park on opening day. I purchased my tix at lunch and my
    wife and son met me for the 4:45 show.  No lines, just walked right in. 
    When we came out the line was four abreast and snaked all the way
    around the building.  Even with a certified "grate" movie, I can't see
    how anyone would wait that long to see a show.
    
    Anyway, the movie was intense at times but not a real seat-grabber to
    me.  My wife jumped a couple of times and so did Coty.  The best parts
    were short and infrequent.  Sure the F/X's were superior but that alone
    cannot carry a movie for me.
    
    I gave it 2.5 stars out of 4.
    
    What's the buzz on Cliffhanger?
    
    Marv
    

    RE:  Cliffhanger
    
    Haven't seen it yet but it is taking a serious beating in rec.climbing
    and the Digital climbing notes files.  Comments were that the acting
    is terrible, the plot non-existent, and the climbing scenes totally
    bogus.  A couple of people I know that don't climb seem to have thought
    it was ok so I guess if you are not a climber it is more enjoyable.
    Since, I'm really into rock climbing I was planning on seeing it but 
    after reading the comments in the notes files, I decided to wait for 
    the video.
    
    Robyn

    
    Well I for one can't imagine a Sylvestor Stallone movie with terrible
    acting and a non-existant plot.  ;-) ;-)
    
    

    
>    Well I for one can't imagine a Sylvestor Stallone movie with terrible
>    acting and a non-existant plot.  ;-) ;-)
    
 
    Yo Adrian, er, I mean Phyllis,
    
    Yabbut, how about a Sly Stallone movie with non-existant acting and a
    terrible plot?
    
    :-)
    
    Marv
       

    
    Oh I don't know.. I think Rambo Part 17 had a lot of depth. ;-)
    
    

    The Player was one of the best movies I've seen in a long time.  I
    expected to hate it because I'm not at all interested in the inner
    workings of Hollywood, but I loved it.  There's a lot of cameos, but I
    only recognized Cher.  This is a fantastic black comedy.
    
    On the other hand, Medicine Man was laughingly bad.  I guess even
    female scientists are in constant need of rescuing.  I got the biggest
    laughs out of her glasses: glasses on, top-notch micro-biologist;
    glasses off, seductress.  Burn down Belize if it stops them from making
    a sequel.
    
    Jamie

re       <<< Note 102.358 by STUDIO::IDE "Can't this wait 'til I'm old?" >>>

>    female scientists are in constant need of rescuing.  I got the biggest
>    laughs out of her glasses: glasses on, top-notch micro-biologist;
>    glasses off, seductress.  Burn down Belize if it stops them from making
>    a sequel.
    
Was the removal of the glasses accompanied by an unpinning of the hair, such
that it fell down to the back in luscious, non-scientist-like waves?

    
    Wow! Jamie and I agree on a movie.. I don't believe it! :-)  The Player
    was *great*
    
    Now for some newer stuff:
    
    Two good ones I just saw - "In the Line of Fire" and "The Fugitive"
    Both get 2 thumbs up from me!!
    
    One to avoid:
    
    "Poetic Justice"
    
    Very boring.. took forever.. went nowhere.. 
    when it finally ended the whole theater jumped up and rushed for the
    door ;-).  Very disappointing after Singleton's phenomenal first movie
    - "Boyz in the Hood".  Oh well - guess they all can't be great.
    
    

    re .360
    
    No one's more surprised than me.  :-)  I have a love of black comedies,
    since life is one.
    
    Jamie

    I went to see the new Woody Allen on Friday.. it was hysterical!  You'd
    never guess it's been years since he and Diane made a film together -
    their timing is still perfect and they're still the perfect foils for
    each other's neurosis.  Two thumbs up!!
    

There is a new movie out called "Stepping Razor - Red X" cronicling
the life of Reggae mon Peter Tosh.  It is playing in Bawton at the
MFA on weds, thur, fri, sat, sun.  i plan on going to the thurs
8pm showing... it is 103 mins long.

being a fairly long-term fan of Mr Tosh, I really wanna see this
one.  i've been a fan of tosh longer then i've been a fan of the dead!

anyone interested?

Josh Belkin and I went to see "Stepping Razor - Red X" last night at the
MFA.  This movie cronicled much of Jamiacan reggae star Peter Tosh's life
and beliefs, ending with his murder in 1987.

For Tosh fans, it is a must-see.  I was turned on to reggae and Peter Tosh
in '83 when I first entered college by this dude we called "Edzo".  We used
to listen to lots of reggae and do what da rastamon does while enjoying
reggae music :-).

Some pretty vivid/scary scenes:  during Tosh's anti-apartheid song (BTW, he
was one of the 1st reggae mon to write a song of this nature), they showed
scenes of people being killed by police.  Josh thought it was in Kingston,
I thought it was in South Africa.  Either way, the cold-blooded murdering
was pretty scary - the film showed police firing rifles on one side and
people falling in their blood on the other side...

In away, Tosh's murder mirrors closely (IMO) to what America went through
when Kennedy was murdered.  Lots of conspiracy theories saying the gov't
put someone up to killing Tosh.  Also, when we was finally put to rest, the
queues to pay your last respect to Tosh were miles long.  Of the 3 people
involved in his murder, only one was ever found; the other 2 were never
found, although rumors are around that they were killed by the angry people
in the streets.  The 3rd guy got convicted by a jury in the quickest
deliberation in Jamaican history:  11 minutes.

Good movie for those of you into the reggae scene;  good insight into some
of the "whys" about the reggae movement.

RIP Peter Tosh.

    sounds like a good movie, but is this a new release or might it be 
    found at a video rental store ?
    
    Chris

re -.1, Its a new movie alright, but you probably won't find it at the 
video store for a while, I'd think, as its a pretty "small" movie.
I mean, its playing at the Museum of Fine  Arts, for only about 6 or 8
showings!  :-|  Call the MFA at 617-267-9377 for when the remaining showings
are - I don't have at the office the brochure they have that lists all the
movies and times.

The movie has a fair bit of footage of Tosh in concert, with a few brief
scenes of the early Wailers (Tosh, Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer) too.
Lots of interview snippets with those who knew Tosh, or worked with him.

Josh

    
    What about 'Undercover Blues'?  It's playing now at my downtown theatre
    for the usual $5 a head.  Anyone seen it?
    
    c

    Saw "The Nightmare Before Christmas" on Friday evening and it was
    grate.  The animation was excellent, the images were bazzare.
    
    It is a lot like a Broadway musical in that just about all the parts
    are sung.  The voices of the characters are excellent.
    
    The "lead" character is named Jack, The Pumpkin King and he's supported
    by a wild cast of ghouls, gobblins and the nastiest of the nasties, The
    Boogie Man!  Of course there is a love interest.
    
    Very entertaining and there's a message too.  To me it said we should
    know and embrace what is natural to us and not try to tamper with
    things that are unnatural (no pun intended) or out of our charactor.
    
    Highly recommended for technical a reasons and because it is a good
    story.  NOT recommended for children as the images are so bazarre and,
    YES, scary.  I found myself squirming a few times, laughing often and a
    bit sad at other times.
    
    A must see.  Two thumbs up
    
    Marv
     

    Went to see "Short Cuts", the new film by Robert Altman now playing in
    selected cities/theatres.  After 3 hours and ten minutes, I was
    squirming in my seat big time.  The overall stories are about 8
    different sets of people in LA during the Medfly spraying a few years
    back.  This movie has a major star casting (Lilly Tomlin, Peter
    Gallagher, Lori Singer, Robert Downey, Lyle Lovett, Hughie Lewis,
    Jenifer Jason Leigh, Tom Waits, etc)
    
    If you liked The Player (Robert Altman's last film), this is the same
    intertwining story line plot not done as well or with as much wit.  If
    they cut at least an hour and condense the story you might have
    something here.
    
    Not recommended, unless you're a total Robert Altman fan.
    
    Fredda   

	I saw a preview for that Nightmare Before Christmas...liked 
	the part where the little boy turns around and whips
	out that demon skull....funny funny.  I think my God Daughter
	has a sick enough sense of humor to enjoy this flick...would 
	you recommend it for a 10 year old?

    that's a shrunkin head, deane....same thang...
    
    rfb

    re .370
    
      Every kid is different so there can be no absolute answer.  However,
    as a general statement, I wouldn't do it.  Since I think its worth
    seeing twice, I'd say go yourself and then decide.
    
      The best part of the shrunken head bit was the parents ask the kid
    what Santa brought him and he calmly (but bug eyed) pulls the head out
    and shows them.  The parents freak out and emit a serious wail.
    
    Marv
    

    
    Rising Sun                   I loved Sean Connery - disliked the racist 
    				 overtones - shall we say HEAVY overtones
                                             
    Manahattan Murder Mystery    At first I thought ohmigawd not another 
    				 woody_allen movie in which he mumbles one
    				 liners while others are doing dialog. 
    				 NOT!  Hang in with it and if you liked
    			         his 'Crimes and Misdeamors', this is for
    				 you.
    		

Saw "Geronimo" yesterday afternoon.  Great flick.  The guy who plays Geronimo
is the same actor (Wes Studi ?) who played the "bad" Indian (Magwa?) in
"Last of the Mohicans".  But "Geronimo" was a *way* better movie, IMHO,
although I do get kind of depressed seeing superior human beings and a healthier
culture being wiped out by stupid, greedy "white eyes".  

Also stars Robert Duvall and Gene Hackman.  

     Craig

    I went from the low to the hi-brow flicks this past weekend.  Started
    off at WWII (better known as Wayne's World II).  You know the old
    story, "if you liked this first one...then...", however, it's not as
    funny but does have one sequence that was a total scream which involves
    mistaken identities.  If you need a laugh go see it, if you want to
    wait for cable then do so.
    
    Also, I saw The Piano.  This stars Holly Hunter, Sam Neill and Harvey 
    Keitel.  Takes place in Victorian times - Holly plays a mute woman (by
    choice) who is a mail order bride and goes to New Zealand with her
    daughter to live with a man she's never met (Sam Neill).  He turns out
    to be very cold and leaves her piano on the beach to rot (not a good
    way to start out a relationship!).  Harvey Keitel trades some land for
    the piano and then offers to sell it back to Holly one key at a time
    for certain "favors" (to be named later).  Everything about the film
    works, the mood, the filming, the acting.  Definite Oscar nominations
    here.  Go see it - for me to say anymore would ruin it.
    
    Fredda
    
    
    
    

I kind of wondered if playing a mute is part of the reason that Hunter
got the part.  I've really enjoyed her work in what I've seen her in
(Raising Arizona, Always, one of those News movies, etc) but she 
does have a very thick southern accent, which might not be all that 
easily modified to a British accent.  From a brief interview I caught
she also does ALL the piano music in the movie, which in these days of
easy overdubbing, is somewhat rare.

PeterT

    
    I saw "In the Name of the Father" last night and it was incredible.
    From the first opening notes of the score right to the end I was
    mesmerized.  Mostly it made me angry.  Anyone who isn't already
    repulsed by the fact that America is still using the death penalty
    should see this film and think about how often this stuff probably goes
    on and we don't hear anything about it.  Don't miss it on the big
    screen and don't get there late.  The 1st scene is powerful and the
    opening music completely haunting - it wraps you right in from the
    start.  I'd love to get the soundtrack, actually.  Daniel Day Lewis
    explodes from the screen and deserves a best actor nomination.  Two
    thumbs up - way up.
    

    
    riveting (as they say) 

    The Oscar nominations were announced at 5:30am in California - has
    anyone heard anything?  All I've heard is 4 best picture nominees:
    
        Schindler's List
        The Piano
        The Fugitive
        Remains of the Day
    
    I don't have a radio at work and the announcements are too late to hit
    the morning NY papers.  Anyone have any more info?
    
    

Heard while watching people slip sliding away this Morning:

Schindler's List got 12 nominations including Best Picture, Best Director,
(Spielberg), Best Actor (Liam Neeson?)
Holly Hunter was nominated for Best Actress (The Piano) and Best Supporting
Actress (The Firm)
It was mentioned that for the first time, two actresses were going against
each other in Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress, and I believe
the other was Emma Thompson for Remains of the Day (Best) and I think
In the Name of the Father (if that's the one with Daniel Day Lewis as 
suspected IRA terrorist).

Best actor: Liam Neeson(sp?) Tom Hanks for Philadelphia (guesses of 
Daniel Day Lewis for ITNOTF, Hopkins for Remains of the Day)

Jane Campion for Best Director for "The Piano"


PeterT

    
    Thanks.  Do you remember what the 5th picture nominated for best
    picture was?
    
    

    here we go:
    
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Subject: Nominees for 66th annual Academy Awards
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	BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. (UPI) -- The nominees announced Wednesday for
the 66th annual Academy Awards, to be presented March 21 in televised
ceremonies at Los Angeles Music Center:
	Picture: ``Schindler's List,'' ``The Fugitive,'' ``In the Name of the
Father,'' ``The Piano,'' ``The Remains of the Day.''
	Actor: Laurence Fishburne, ``What's Love Got To Do With It''; Anthony
Hopkins, ``The Remains of the Day''; Daniel Day-Lewis, ``In the Name of
the Father''; Liam Neeson, ``Schindler's List''; Tom Hanks, 
``Philadelphia.''
	Actress: Holly Hunter, ``The Piano''; Angela Bassett, ``What's Love
Got To Do With It''; Emma Thompson, ``The Remains of the Day''; Debra
Winger, ``Shadowlands''; Stockard Channing, ``Six Degrees of Separation.
''
	Supporting actor: Leonardo DiCaprio, ``What's Eating Gilbert 
Grape?''; Ralph Fiennes, ``Schindler's List''; Tommy Lee Jones, ``The
Fugitive''; John Malkovich, ``In The Line of Fire''; Pete Postlethwaite,
``In the Name of the Father.''
	Supporting actress: Holly Hunter, ``The Firm''; Anna Paquin, ``The
Piano''; Rosie Perez, ``Fearless''; Winona Ryder, ``The Age of
Innocence''; Emma Thompson, ``In the Name of the Father.''
	Director: Jim Sheridan, ``In the Name of the Father''; Jane Campion,
``The Piano''; James Ivory, ``The Remains of the Day''; Steven
Spielberg, ``Schindler's List''; Robert Altman, ``Short Cuts.''
	Original screenplay: ``Dave,'' Gary Ross; ``In The Line of Fire,''
Jeff Maguire; ``Philadelphia,'' Ron Nyswaner; ``The Piano,'' Jane
Campion; ``Sleepless in Seattle,'' Nora Ephron, David S. Ward and Jeff
Arch.
	Adapted screenplay: ``The Age of Innocence,'' Jay Cocks and Martin
Scorsese; ``In the Name of the Father,'' Terry George and Jim Sheridan;
``The Remains of the Day,'' Ruth Prawer Jhabvala; ``Schindler's List,''
Steven Zaillian; ``Shadowlands,'' William Nicholson.
	Foreign-language film: ``Belle Epoque,'' Spain; ``Farewell My
Concubine,'' ``Hong Kong; ''Hedd Wyn,`` United Kingdom; ''The Scent of
Green Papaya,`` Vietnam; ''The Wedding Banquet,`` Taiwan.
	Original score: ``The Age of Innocence,'' Elmer Bernstein; ``The
Firm,'' Dave Grusin; ``The Fugitive,'' James Newton Howard; ``The
Remains of the Day,'' Richard Robbins; ``Schindler's List,'' John
Williams.
	Original song: ``Again'' from ``Poetic Justice,'' by Janet Jackson,
James Harris III and Terry Lewis; ``The Day I Fall In Love'' from 
``Beethoven's 2nd'' by Carole Bayer Sager, James Ingram and Cliff
Magness; ``Philadelphia'' from ``Philadelphia'' by Niel Young; ``Streets
of Philadelphia'' from ``Philadelphia'' by Bruce Springsteen; ``A Wink
and a Smile'' from ``Sleepless in Seattle'' by Marc Shaiman and Ramsey
McLean.
	Documentary feature: ``The Broadcast Tapes of Dr. Peter,'' ``Children
of Fate,'' ``For Better or For Worse,'' ``I Am a Promise: The Children
of Stanton Elementary School,'' ``The War Room.''
	Documentary short subject: ``Blood Ties: The Life and Work of Sally
Mann,'' ``Chicks in White Satin,'' ``Defending Our Lives.''
	Film editing: ``The Fugitive,'' Dennis Virkler, David Finfer, Dean
Goodhill, Don Brochu, Richard Nord and Dov Hoenig; ``In the Line of
Fire,'' Anne V. Coates; ``In the Name of the Father,'' Gerry Hambling; 
``The Piano,'' Veronika Jenet; ``Schindler's List,'' Michael Kahn.
	Art direction: ``Addams Family Values,'' Ken Adam and Marvin March; 
``The Age of Innocence,'' Dante Ferretti and Robert J. Franco; 
``Orlando,'' Ben Van Os and Jan Roeles; ``The Remains of the Day,''
Luciana Arrighi and Ian Whittaker; ``Schindler's List,'' Allan Starski
and Ewa Braun.
	Cinematography: ``Farewell My Concubine,'' Gu Changwei; ``The
Fugitive,'' Michael Chapman; ``The Piano,'' Stuart Dryburgh; 
``Schindler's List,'' Janusz Kaminski; ``Searching for Bobby Fischer,''
Conrad L. Hall.
	Costume design: ``The Age of Innocence,'' Gabriella Pescucci; 
``Orlando,'' Sandy Powell; ``The Piano,'' Janet Patterson; ``The Remains
of the Day,'' Jenny Beaven and John Bright; ``Schindler's List,'' Anna
Biedrzycka-Sheppard.
	Makeup: ``Mrs. Doubtfire,'' Greg Cannom, Ve Neill and Yolanda
Toussieng; ``Philadelphia,'' Carl Fullerton and Alan D'Angerio; 
``Schindler's List,'' Christina Smith, Matthew Mungle and Judith A.
Cory.
	Animated short film: ``Blindscape,'' ``The Mighty River,'' ``Small
Talk,'' ``The Village,'' ``The Wrong Trousers.''
	Live-action short film: ``Black Rider (Schwarzfahrer),'' ``Down on
the Waterfront,'' ``The Dutch Master,'' ``Partners,'' ``The Screw (La
Vis).''
	Sound: ``Cliffhanger,'' Michael Minkler, Bob Beemer and Tim Cooney; 
``The Fugitive,'' Donald O. Mitchell, Michael Herbick, Frank A. Montano
and Scott D. Smith; ``Geronimo: An American Legend,'' Chris Carpenter,
D.M. Hemphill, Bill W. Benton and Lee Orloff; ``Jurassic Park,'' Gary
Summers, Gary Rydstrom, Shawn Murphy and Ron Judkins; ``Schindler's
List,'' Andy Nelson, Steve Pederson, Scott Millan and Ron Judkins.
	Sound effects editing: ``Cliffhanger,'' Wylie Stateman and Gregg
Baxter; ``The Fugitive,'' John Leveque and Bruce Stambler; ``Jurassic
Park,'' Gary Rydstrom and Richard Hymns.
	Visual effects: ``Cliffhanger,'' Neil Krepela, John Richardson, John
Bruno and Pamela Easley; ``Jurassic Park,'' Dennis Muren, Stan Winston,
Phil Tippett and Michael Lantieri; ``The Nightmare Before Christmas,''
Pete Kozachik, Eric Leighton, Ariel Velasco Shaw and Gordon Baker.

    Seen a good...no, make that a grate movie in Maverick the otha day.
    
    Sort of like the Sting with several twists toward the end as to who was
    in cahoots with who. rilly kept me guessing.
    
    Had a grate line in there that went something to the effect of "those
    shitty Indians! Who do thet think they are by being on *our* land
    before we got here!"
    
    Enjoy,Andy

I agree - I saw Maverick when it first came out, three weeks ago. 

Grate flick.  Real fun...and lots of grate one-liners, double-takes,
and one really funny cameo.  I loved it.

tim

    I took Roz & the kids to see Maverick and they loved it too.  It's been
    a looong time since we were all able to go to a non-animation movie
    that we all could enjoy.  Only a couple of instances of language ( a
    couple of "sh*t") and some non-explicit bedroom scenes.
    
    Fun fun fun!
    
     

    I went to see True Lies saturday night with Pat (as a second choice
    since Forrest Gump was sold out). What a killer movie! Incredible
    special effects, etc, like you would expect but it was also very
    funny. I left with at least a grain of respect for Tom Arnold's
    acting abilities (he plays a Tom-Arnold-like character very well
    in this movie). 
    
    One thing; I was kind of disturbed by the way Arabs were consistently
    portrayed as being inept buffoons, fanatical terrorists, bad shots, or
    some combination of the 3. I guess they're the 'safe' group (along with
    white males) to portray in a bad light these days.

    don't forget lawyers. Everybody loved Jurassic Park when
    the T-rex had the outhoused attorney for lunch
    
    Steve

    I saw 'Natural Born Killers' last night.
    
    I really don't consider it a "good" movie....I mean, it was well done I
    guess but I left the movie with a really weird feeling.  Not a very
    good one.  I left with this inhuman so-what feeling.
    
    Hard to describe. 
    
    I went to sleep and had some violent freakish nightmares last night :-/

    I watched Vince Bugliose's (sp) Helter Skelter last nite on TBS and had
    some of those types of dreams myself, Danielle.....plus woke up in a 
    BAD mood this morning...that's why I usually avoid those types of movies, 
    being the young impressionable guy that I am...
    
    rfb

>    being the young impressionable guy that I am...

	HA HA!!!
	[thud]

Go see "Clerks" if you get a chance.  It's about two guys who work in 
a convenience store and video store in NJ.  

Such a good movie!!!

ever hear Charles Liquidcenter on 'BCN in the morning?  He plays a clip 
from the movie which is one of the secondary characters sing songing to
himself: "smokin' weed, smokin' dope, smokin' weed smokin' weed" 
anyway it's an EXCELLENT movie if you get a chance to see it.  it's been
at Wilton for a couple weeks and i think thursday nite was the last
nite - not sure tho.

It is b&w  and VERY low budget (27K) and it was first shown (I think) 
in Vancouver at a festival.  Miramax picked it up and distributed it in 
the US.  the whole thing was done as a project for some guy's film thesis 
or something.  so now, he and his buddy have been offered $5m to do another 
film and they said 'that's too much, we only need $2-3m',  can you imagine!

Dumb question alert! :-)

> it's been at Wilton for a couple weeks and i think thursday nite was the
> last nite - not sure tho.

Where is (and what is) 'Wilton', and how do I get there? 

:-)

- jeff

	Wilton is the town of Wilton, NH.  The theatre in Wilton is "The Town
Hall Theatre," cleverly named such since it's located in the same building as
the town hall and the police station.  From Nashua, take 101A west to 101 west. 
Wilton is the town after Milford (location of the White Horse Inn).  Follow
signs to "Wilton Business District."

	"Clerks" is playing through next Thursday, according to their phone
message (+1 603 654 9743).

Mark

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
    DARE they crank up 'smoking dope, smoking weed....' right next to the
    police station???  That cracks me up.....
    
    Dugo

     I wonder what goes on in the Wilton Business district....
    is there such a thing?

    Wilton is a wonderous place.  one of the area's best kept secrets so
    be sure not to tell anyone else, ok?  The theatre has nice roomy aisles
    between seats (for us longlegged people).  The business district is
    the main street - about 2 football fields long, Chris. 
    
    Last summer Wilton held their first ARts and Film festival and an
    interesting fact became known at that time.  wilton's pop is ~3,000 and 
    ~ 300 people locals registered as artists/craftspeople/musicians.
    
    me?  I'm a good audience :-) 
    
    

    	I saw "Immortal Beloved" last week, a movie revolving around Beethoven,
    who is played by Gary Oldman.  Isabella Rosellini (sp?) is also in the
    film.  Wonderful movie!  The filming was very very beautiful and that made 
    it worth it alone.  This is definitely one of those films that has to be 
    seen in a theatre, for the music and big screens.... 
    
    :), danielle

    Well this one wasn't a 'beautiful' movie...but after reading the book i
    had to see Enrico Unzo's "The Name of the Rose" with Sean Connery...
    
    14th century murder mystery done in a Benedictine Abbey...the movie
    doesn't go into the detail that the book does (of course) and it
    diverges from the book at points...but man does it depict what a horrid
    period of time the early 1300's were....
    
    Dugo_who's_glad_he_wasn't_born_then
    
    PS...i'll have to go see Immortal Beloved to get those dank, dark
    images out of my MIND!!!!

Many many smiles !!  We saw "Ready to Wear" friday nite.. it's a super
Altman-style film... i love the style.  and Sophia well jesus the 
woman is so gorgeous still.  and it is really cool to see her and
marcello interacting the same as ever - AS EVER!!! very hot chemistry 
on screen ...  although everything is left to the imagination - including
what the delicious ending really means ... 

Now showing at the Wilton TownHall Theatre
    
A must see for Altman fans - a double must see for Loren/Mastriani fans!!!

IM_Not_So_HO
:-)

carol

    Anyone see Pulp Fiction? Saw it Saturday night, very strange, what
    was in the breifcase?  

I saw Pulp a couple of weeks ago and didn't like it...too much foul language
for no apparent purpose.  However, the oat bran may have affected my
perceptions...

However, I can HEARTILY recommend the Secret of Roan Inish.  A John Sales film
of an Irish fairy tale.  VERY nice!

	dave

    
    
    
     The Lion King
    
     good clean stuff!
    
    
    Steve-O

    
    re-1
    
    
    Ya non-stop  since we bought it Thursday!  8-)
    
    
    Toby   
    
    

Un Coeur En Hiver (yeah, French)...

Interesting story, and Ravel sound track...;-)

tim

    Pulp Fiction-
    as seen in previous reviews you either love it or hate it
    i thought it was good
    shocking but good.....heard the word Mutha F*cker enough times it
    almost rivaled the language in Scarface..well not quite... ;^)

  I spend most of my free time listening to / attempting music, no time to
  follow the music industry buzz, or Internet forums...  So I was bemused
  when a friend pointed out, from the Boston Globe people/arts section, that
  Paul McCartney's been preparing a movie about the Dead.  Apparently it's
  been in preparation for 2 years and is nearing completion.
  
  True?  Any known background to this?   - Jay

I know there is a movie about deadheads coming out this week or next 
called Tie Died, but hadn't heard about the McCartney project.

PeterT

    Saw a little note on that subject in the latest Rolling Stone, the
    Garcia issue...
    
    
    McCartney's first film as a director, I know Linda did some nice
    pictures of members of the San Francisco scene...Big Brother,
    Quicksilver, Dead, and Airplane...back in '66-'67
    
    
    sean.
    
    

    that is correct
    McCartney's film on the boyz is some sort of documentary around the
    band
    and their fans...his first attempt

    also approved by and some material donated by Jerry......
    
    rfb

  Thx for the McCartney info -- a documentary with input from Jerry, eh?

  Wonder if the Dead are a shared passion of sometimes collaborators Elvis
  Costello and McCartney.  Let's see, they both had latent desires to
  compose in classical genres...  Lennon would mock McCartney for imitating
  Elvis; Costello was widely mocked, at the outset, for using Elvis's name.
  Costello considers Lennon-McCartney the best in the pop-muz-biz; so does
  McCartney...  8)
  
  Maybe McCartney too "always loved the Dead".
  
  As for the Tie Died movie, I saw an ad for that.  Until/unless I see
  raves about it in this space, I plan to ignore it.  - Jay

    
    I remember hearing that Paul McCartney was inspired to tour a couple
    years ago by the Dead......he figured if those can just keep on playing
    out year after year, why can't he?  I believe that he is a definite
    admirer.
    
    Hogan
    

    yep...read/heard an interview with Paul M. where he said that...

    Went to see a bunch of good ones:
    
    The Usual Suspects - excellent crime, murder mystery (don't want to
    give away the surprise ending).  Might be the best movie I've seen all
    year!
    
    To Wong Foo....(et, al) - a santized version of Precilla, Queen of the
    Desert.  Cute, but you have to suspend reality.
    
    Desperados - a remake of El Marichi (a low budget flick), guitar player
    revenges the death of his beloved.  Antonio Banderas is numero uno in my
    book! (yes it's a sexist comment - but then the movies are our times to
    get involved in a fantasy world!)
    
    Living in Oblivion - an "art" film about the making of a low budget art
    film.  Very, very funny.  It's only playing in one theatre in NYC, so
    you'd probably find it in Boston.
    
    Dats all folks...
    
    Fredda

>  Wonder if the Dead are a shared passion of sometimes collaborators Elvis
>  Costello and McCartney.  Let's see, they both had latent desires to

Costello has stated that he is a closet deadhead at least.  There is an
old photo, perhaps in the Europe '72 book, that shows a crowd shot and
Elvis says he's in it.  He also did "Ship of Fools" for the Deadicated
album.

PeterT

> Costello has stated that he is a closet deadhead at least.  There is an
> old photo, perhaps in the Europe '72 book, that shows a crowd shot and
> Elvis says he's in it.  He also did "Ship of Fools" for the Deadicated
> album.

  Yep...  And in the Musician magazine interview (where Jerry and Elvis
  pretty much interview each other), Costello goes into yet more detail of
  his long-time affection for the Dead.  Hope readers of this conference saw
  that interview (circulated online?), it's a grate one.   - Jay

    Saw Clockers last night. It's Spike Lee's (as director) new movie, and
    it's produced by Spike Lee, Martin Scorsese's(sp?), and someone
    else. It's a very REAL look at the projects and generations of drug
    dealers.
    
    I usually can't handle a lot of violence but the graphic shots
    of crime scenes worked with out being too much. Spike did a good
    job of showing that people in the projects are not all thugs and
    the cops are not as callous as they are often depicted.
    
    Sloan gives it a thumbs up.

    Finally saw "Ready to Wear" on Friday. I do love Altman's films.
    
    It did take me a while to recognise Marcello Mastriani. He looked
    familiar, but since Altman likes to use actors/actresses that he has
    used before, nearly everyone looks familiar.
    
    gary
    
    p.s. I compensated by watching "Above & Beyond" last night. Uuuurgh. I
    even bulk erased the tape to make sure I didn't watch it again
    accidentally.

    
    Here's a couple foreign flicks that are worth renting. All Wim Wenders
    films are good (Until the End of the World, Paris Texas, etc.) but these
    two are great! - Wings of Desire and Far Away Too Close.  Wings
    of Desire came out first and Far Away Too Close just came out a couple
    years ago. There is some english speaking folks in it, Peter Folk
    is one. They are about angels intermixing with 'real' people and helping
    them out.   Neat stuff!
                    
    
                      
     

    fwiw, I've posted this from Beatles...
    
                <<< SITP::USER1:[NOTES$LIBRARY]BEATLES.NOTE;1 >>>
                                -< The Beatles >-
================================================================================
Note 750.4                         RIP Gerry                              4 of 4
DELNI::RUKAS                                         17 lines  26-SEP-1995 19:03
                           -< Paul Honours the Dead >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
     Despite the sad news of the death of Grateful Dead leader Jerry Garcia
    in August, Paul McCartney is going ahead with launch of a nine-minute,
    animated short film on the band, which he has spent the last two years
    putting together. THE GRATEFUL DEAD - A Photofilm is directed by Paul
    McCartney and brings to life, via animation techniques described by MPL
    as "ingenious" and "stunning", a series of Linda McCartney photographs
    of the Dead taken in the sixties. The film's soundtrack is, of course,
    by the Grateful Dead.
     The British Film Institute has invited Paul to exhibit his art-house
    short at this year's London Film Festival, which will be held from the
    2nd-19th November at one of three venues across London (the National
    Film Theatre on the South Bank, the Odeon West End at Leicester Square,
    and the ICA in the Mall).
    
                                              NEWS EDITOR: Andy Davis
                                         SEPT 1995 The Beatles Monthly Book
    

	last night, a friend of mine held my Dylan tickets hostage,
	insisting that I MUST go see this movie with her - I -must-! -
	and, then she would let me have my tickets ;-)

	the movie was "Smoke" - and it was playing around most theatres
	last summer so talking about it now will probably do no good.
	Except, it really was a great, uplifting movie (I felt) that is
	well worth catching if you haven't.  It will probably be out as
	a video soon.

	the basic premise of the movie is someone doing a random act
	of kindness for someone else, which starts a little story.
	There are 5 or 6 of these little stories interweaving through
	the characters lives.  We get to see the life-changing impacts
	these acts of kindness have.  It makes you want to go out and
	do something kind for someone.

	The directing was excellent and so was the acting.

	As the credits were rolling, the song being played is "Smoke
	Gets in Your Eyes", sung by Jerry.

	Debess

    
    There was something in the GD Almanac this past summer about Jerry's
    involvement with the movie Smoke.  Jerry contributed 2 songs to
    the song track. The movie was done in collaboration by the director
    Wayne Wong (joy luck club) and author Paul Auster (Mr. vertigo and
    NY Trilogy). Guess the other song beside 'when smoke gets in your
    eyes' done by Jerry is an old soul tune.. Cigarettes and Coffee.
    
    Can't wait to see it. William Hurt is in it too and I think he's
    great!
    
    Cath

    Coffee and Cigs, By JGB on the SMOKE soundtrack CD is killer!!! Divide Dave
    and I played it twice in a row last nite at VERY HIGH volume. 
    Classic JGB...
    rfb

>    Coffee and Cigs

	hearing him at the end took me by surprise...I entirely missed
	this other song...guess I'll have to rent it when it comes out...

    is zat Jerry that says "that was pretty funky"... at the end of coffee
    and cigs?? I thought it was Kahn....
    
    
    rfb

    rfb -
    	That's DEFINITELY the big man!

    
    
     I liked to find the sound track for the one cut Cigarettes and Coffee.
    
     That was killer, brought tears to my eyes.
    
    Divide Dave

    Divide Dave -
    	
    	I didn't have much problem finding the soundtrack for the movie -
    only thing is ya gotta buy the whole CD from the movie ($14 or
    something like that). It's got some other neat stuff on it too. If I
    remember I'll post the whole song list tomorrow.
    
    								Jeff

  Would this be the same "Cigarettes and Coffee" that Otis Redding covered
  in '66 (Soul Album, also on both Otis boxes)...?

  "It's early in the morning...  About a quarter to three..."  - Jay  

    yep......you GOTTA hear the JGB version...like Divide Dave said...tears
    in the eyes, esp. at high volume....
    
    rfb

>    yep......you GOTTA hear the JGB version...like Divide Dave said...tears
>    in the eyes, esp. at high volume....

  Well all right then.
  
  Come to think of it...  I can only think of one other Dead cover of an
  Otis Redding standard ("Hard to Handle" on Bear's Choice [also a hit for
  Black Crowes of course]).  Always suspected they had to be into Otis
  though.  (The only R&B artist creating albums at the rarified
  Beatles/Dylan level in the 60s...)

  I know 2 couples who consider the Redding "Cigarettes and Coffee" their
  song -- *definitely* will check out the Smoke version.  - JayC.

    
>    Can't wait to see it. William Hurt is in it too and I think he's
>    great!
    
	btw cath, and anyone else who thinks William Hurt is great,
	"Kiss of the Spiderwoman" is going to be shown on PBS (Ch 2)
	on Friday or Saturday at 10 or 11

	Debess

    re: .431:
    
    "Bear's Choice"
    
    ...I've often wondered... who is "bear"?
    
    Whoever it is, (s)he has impeccable musical tastes... "Smokestack
    Lightning" has always been my absolute favorite blues....
    
    ...mike

re:  <<< Note 102.433 by TRLIAN::DUGGAN "BornInTheDesert,RaisedInTheLion'sDen" >>>

>    "Bear's Choice"
>    
>    ...I've often wondered... who is "bear"?

    bear == Owsley, former soundman, benefactor and chief chemist 
    for the dead ;-)

    /Ken

	Saw "Nick of Time" over the weekend.  Good flick!  You know how some
movies have scenes where the suspense tends to twist your guts?  In this movie
it's non-stop from about five minutes in, until the end.

	Johnny Depp plays a man who's daughter has been kidnapped by Christopher
Walken's character.  He's given a gun and the picture of a person, and told that
if he doesn't kill that person in one hour and fifteen minutes, his daughter
will be killed.  The movie then follows him through the next hour and twenty
minutes or so, in near realtime.

Mark

    Rented "Much Ado About Nothing" with some friends last night.
    
    Shakespeare was a master of wit and an expert on the human condition! 
    What a hilarious work!  Now I see why iambic pentameter (sp?) is so
    powerful: the pause allows the audience to digest each and every line
    of material, since EVERY LINE written packs quite a punch.  I was
    LITERALLY rolling and the floor laughing like a madman!
    
    It makes you realize that human nature does not change, no matter how
    many years go by.  The characters seem to revel in their humanness.
    They have their faults and problems, but they let it all out.  Somehow
    they manage to overcome crazy situations, find love, and enjoy being
    alive!  
    
    This is very uplifting, and I guarantee you won't be able to stop
    smiling after watching this!
    
    'noky   
          

    
    
    Muchadoaboutnothing: Good movie indeed.  I read it, then saw the
    flick. Tough to understand their speak.  Michael Keaton plays a
    great scumbag (in this and in Beetlejuice). :-)
    
    
    Saw "Shawshank Redemption" the other night. Real good.
    
    

Toy Story!  Bring the kids or go yourself.  It's a trip!  I missed the very
ending due to problems I'll relate elsewhere, but I'll take my daughter
back to see it again soon.  Maybe Dan too.

PeterT

	Guntis rented "Shawshank Redemption" - I knew it was about prison
	and I figured it was another one of -those- films, action packed, 
	violent - nothing I would want to see.  I grudgingly sat down to 
	watch it, but figured I would not sit through the whole thing...
	Well, much to my surprise, I really liked this movie a lot.
	There is some brutal violence but it is far outweighed by the
	relationship between the 2 main characters played by Tim Robbins
	and Morgan Freedman and the theme that runs throughout - hope,
	even when things seem hopeless.

	Debess

    i saw that one on pay-per-view in my hotel room in SF one night while
    there for a trade show...  the movie was much more interesting since i
    was at alcatraz earlier that day!  :^)   i agree though...  excellent
    movie!!
    
    					da ve

    what were you in for?

    playing with the pencils on the "Group W" bench....
    
    					da ve

    I got the video for Apollo 13 for Christmas..watched it once and liked
    it a lot...I was an space/astronaut buff as a kid, and the fact that
    it's a true story makes one realize how F'n lucky those guys were to
    get home safe...amazing...
    
    well done...if you can hook your vcr to your stereo, and you ever rent
    this one, crank it up...

    
    Hey Wes,
      I was a space cadet as a kid too!  I think I still am some of the
    time.
    
    	mark

I'm still a space cadet.

;-)

    meet George Jetson...Jane his wife...
    
    :)

    Always been a space cadet!  But, I'm interested in astronomy too ;-)
    I caught Apollo 13 this summer, on my last day in Australia, just
    as it was previewing there.  Taking in the average age of the crowd,
    I was problably one of the few there that actually remembered this 
    from when it happened, but I didn't remember nearly enough.  I have
    to applaud Ron Howard for going with the Vomit Comet to film this
    thing and getting pictures of what a real micro-gravity environment
    would be like.  Much better than suspending everyone from 
    ropes.  Definitely recommended.  
    
    PeterT
    

    Mighty Aphrodite - a Woody Allen movie about what else? woody and his
    		       life....complete with greek chorus.  it was great.
    
    How to Make an American Quilt - chick flick extraordinaire
    
    

>    Mighty Aphrodite - a Woody Allen movie about what else? woody and his
>    		       life....complete with greek chorus.  it was great.
    

	hey Carol - why didn't you give me a call to see that?  I woulda
	gone with ya ;-)...instead Guntis and I went to see "Cutthroat
	Island" (HAR!) and I kept thinking "I wish I was in the other
	theatre seeing "Mighty Aphrodite"...and never did get to see it.
    
    

Odd or ironic that 3 of today's top directors are Laverne, Meathead and 
Opie/Richie Cunningham


jeff

oy.

    
    Isn't shirley (as in laverne &) a producer now?
    

    
    Went to see "Waiting to Exhale" on Friday. It was pretty good.
    Interesting to see a all black cast. The sound track was
    a mellow mix done by Baby Face.  Nothing too deep but good 
    female black leads.
    
    Reminded me I wanted to catch 'White Man's Burden'. Guess I'll
    have to catch that on video.  
    
    I also got to rewatch two from my list of favorities over the
    holidays : Being There & Harold and Maud.  I never get tired of
    seeing them... good to rent if/when we get more snow days.
    
    Cath 

    we rented "Philadelphia" Friday night...great flick, Tom Hanks does an
    outstanding job (Oscar winner?) as does Denzel Washington...Hanks is
    one helluvan actor
    
    Wes

    wow...  haven't thought about Harold and Maude in ages!!!!  one of
    the best!  imho of course...

    Kalifornia, with Brad Pitt, Juliette Lewis, and the guy from the X-files.

    One of those $1.50 for 5 days specials, and it was a really good flick!
    Though pretty violent... sorta like a precursor to Natural Born Killers.

    /Ken

Watched, for the first time in a few years, The Fisher King over the 
weekend. Fine flick.

"I love New York in June, 
how about you?
I love a Gershwin tune,
how about you?".....

	wow. i saw that this weekend, too.
	mighty fine flick.

    I watched Taxi Driver over the weekend.  I forgot how great it was.

	Re: Harold and Maude - what a great inspiration that character is...
	I bought the video as a 40th birthday present for my sister-friend
	and told her "getting older doesn't mean you have to get old"...

	loved the Cat Stevens soundtrack too.

	Debess

    I had a friend who named his cats Harold & Maude.

    Saw 12 Monkeys - very interesting.  It's a time travel fable about
    quite a changed world.  I don't really want to give the plot away. 
    Bruce Willis can actually act (a little - I'm not a fan of his) and
    Brad Pitt is wild.  See it!
    
    Also went to see Leaving Las Vegas.  This was the most disturbing
    movie I've seen in a long time.  It left me depressed for two days! 
    Nicholas Cage plays an alcoholic was gets fired from his job, takes his
    severence pay to move to Las Vegas to drink himself to death. 
    Elizabeth Shue is a prostitute he meets up with.  She falls in love
    with him!  But doesn't try to "redeem" him.  It was overwhelmingly
    graphic and made me cringe at times.  The performances were very
    powerful, however, in good conscience I can't recommend this movie. 
    For me in conjured up some very bad memories of friends who've had
    drinking/drugging problems (not to this extent though) and it left me
    shaken.
    
    Fredda

    Freeda,
    yer last note is exactly why I avoid most movies, esp. ones with weird
    plots...I tend to dwell on them too much before i realize that 
    IT'S ONLY HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!!!!! If I'm going to be duped by Hollywood,
    at least make me laugh!!!   %^)
    
    
    rfb_off on a movie tangent

That movie is up at the top of Siskel and Ebert's top 10 of 1995, if that
makes any difference to you.

adam

ps. I love Elizabeth Shue from her days in Adventures in Babysitting :-)

    
    >Adventures in Babysitting
    
    An underrrated movie!  :)
    
    I met her once, when she came up to Hanover with her brother Andrew
    (90210 or whatever) Shue.
    

>   yer last note is exactly why I avoid most movies, esp. ones with weird
>   plots...I tend to dwell on them too much before i realize that 
>   IT'S ONLY HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!!!!!! If I'm going to be duped by Hollywood,
>   at least make me laugh!!!   %^)

I'm glad you said this...my wife and I tend to stick to comedies, as
a lot of the stuff that comes out just doesn't seem entertaining.

We finally got around to renting Pulp Fiction, which Linda had been
curious about for a while...her name is Tarantino, and folks have been
asking her for a year now if she is any relation to Quentin.  Well,
this movie might represent a certain slice of life in LA, and some
scenes were funny due to an odd juxtaposition of values or behaviours,
but most of the scenes seemed overly violent.  I was glad when it was
over...

Dan

I thought Pulp Fiction was hilarious.

Then again, I consider Natural Born Killers to be a pretty good art film.



:-)

But seriously... 

I compare the violence of today's movies to the exaggerated emotional
metaphors (death = sex, etc.) common in early American literature, and I see
similar expressions of emotions, just different ones.  150 years ago people
were just starting to deal with their sexuality through literature -- and in
written literature (the only real public expressive outlet) is where you first
find the colorful expressions of those emotions.  Two hundred years later I'd
have to say that most folks are still well behind in the evolution of their
sexual maturity, but we're way ahead in sexuality compared to dealing with our
anger and violent tendencies.

The troubling thing about violence in movies isn't the violence itself, but
the frustration and anger that it exposes.  More significantly it highlights
how obviously immature we humans are when it comes to dealing with our anger.
Compared to dealing with anger, we're masters of our sexuality -- scary
thought, eh?  The people who know how to express their anger in non-violent
means, in today's world, are the authors, the artists, and the writers -- the
ones with the gift and the vision to put humanity in perspective.  Many media
are avialable today for expressing these emotions, so we (the
non-artists/writers/authors) tend to see it show up in many places.

That's why I find it thought provoking -- and refreshing -- when I see people
take different looks at violence as an expression of anger, frustration, rage,
and violence as a natural trait, as in the above two films.  


- jeff_semi-resident_casual_observer

    no offense Jeff....but *U* are a weird-o!!!!
    
    
    %^)
    
    actually I found yer explanation interesting....
    
    rfb

	my daughter is a tarantino fan, big time.
	she's seen his movies enough times to quote the dialogue through-
	out the whole film. quite annoying actually  ;-)
	

          
    I thought Pulp F. and Natural Born were excellent flicks.  Natural Born
    got a little out of control toward the end, but it was still pretty
    artistic way to present something so awful.
    
    Society is out of control thanks to modern life.  I try not to 
    understand it.  

    
    I am also in the court that doesn't do violent disturbing movies.  I am
    disturbed enough already 8^|.  These movies just leave me uneasy and 
    feeling anxious. I don't like em.
    
    Give me "It's a Wonderful Life " anyday, or Harold and Maude or
    Lion King or The wizard of OZ or......
    
    
    

    or...A Hard Days Night, Help, Yellow Submarine...

    I found Pulp Fiction (great title) disturbing and difficult to
    watch.  I enjoyed it thoroughly!  The second time, I expect to
    laugh my way through it.  That Samuel Jackson character is just
    too much!

    re.471
    see why we get along so well...%^)
    
    rfb_disturbed
    
    

	I loved Pulp Fiction... I thought it was one of the
	best from last year. Vinnie Barbarino as a hit man was
	very funny.... Samueal Jackson was pretty cool too. " and
	I will strike down upon thee with great vengenace..."

	Toby

    I'm not into "action" or violence type o' films, but I thought in its'
    own way that Pulp Fiction was also funny...sure it had its' violent
    scenes, but a funny story line about 2 hit-men...
    
    Wes

    Pulp Fiction scarred me emotionally and it took me a year of counseling
    to get over the basement scene in the pawn shop....and that guy working
    the counter kinda looked like DA VE?!!?!?!???!??!?  

    you caught me...  does this mean i lose my job now?  does appearing in
    this movie make me unfit to market semiconductor products??  oh, for
    shame...   :^)
    
    gee...  i guess i have to go see this movie now...
    
    					da ve_star_of_stage_and_screens_
    					(large and small)

I saw Pulp Fiction, and when it ended, I was like, what was the fuss
all about ?  I thought it was mediocre at best.

/Ken

    
    re - Pulp
    
    I liked the female actress.  Thought she was a rush.  Too bad she
    sniffed that root. aye?

    I wasn't too hot on Pulp Fiction. One of the few films the wife and
    I couldn't finish while crashed on our couch. That hasn't happened
    since we rented "The Piano".

    re.481  so you fell asleep to The Piano?  was it that bad?  I've been
    meaning to rent that one...Piano Fan that I am, and as I recall, it got
    basically good reviews when it came out?
    
    didn't Holly Hunter get nominated for best actress for that?
    
    thanx,
    
    Wes

                                                                    
        I saw the Piano. I thought it was a good movie. Harvey Kietel (sp?)
        plays a unusual role. I found the scenes with him and Holly Hunter
        provacative.
    
        There are a few disturbing scenes (when the irate husband goes after
        Holly after her piano lessons) and the daughter was rather a
        haunting imp.
    
        Most of the story is told through Holly Hunters 'thoughts' as she
        has no speaking parts in the movie.  She did a great job of
        communicating without using her mouth though.
    
        Cathy

	the very very best thing about seeing The Piano is, I think it
	finally motivated Guntis, after about 10 years, to move our piano
	from CT to our house...I mean, if they could move this piano from
	a boat to the shore and then through the rainforest up the muddy
	hill path to their house, well...

	;-)

    I think The Piano is my oldest daughters favorite movie.
    
    rfb
    

>	finally motivated Guntis, after about 10 years, to move our piano

ahh, now we see the truth - you dragged Guntis to see the movie and then 
shamed him into moving your piano!  Hey - whatever floats your..uh.. piano!

 Josh

We went out to a real movie theatre last Saturday, and saw
Sense and Sensibility.  It was very well done, although Linda
had read the book in the past month and was struck by some
absences (of minor characters only).  I'd recommend it.

Dan

    Saw "Twelve Monkeys" last week... excellent Terry Gilliam (Time
    Bandits, Brazil) movie.  From what I hear, Bruce Willis liked the
    script so much, he asked to play the part for free.  :^D
    
    Brat Pitt was a nice surprise, he really _can_ act!  His character was
    an insane/eccentric son of viral researcher - a far cry from his
    typical stud/hero roles.
    
    One good message I saw was: sometimes you are helpless to change the
    course of certain events in your life; that's why it is important to 
    stop and smell the flowers.
    
    Another message seemed to be the impending doom of society.  The basic
    plot revolves around a man-made virus which kills off billions of
    people and forces major changes in the way survivors must live.  Also
    many references to the commercial society we live in and how the TV/radio
    makes us believe that we NEED to have certain things.
    
    Good food for thought, fine acting, fun to watch the story unfold!
    
    noky   

anyone seen the Bill Clinton movie, "Waiting to Inhale"?

    
         Hey I finally heard something that provides a valid answer to
         the question, what was in the brief case? in pulp fiction.
    
         Apparently the big bad guy in the movie ( I forget his name but
         he's the black dude that Bruce Willis had a run in with) sold
         his soul to the devil.  John Travolta and the other guy were
         sent to buy it back.. that explains why the brief case was
         a glow .. it contained his soul.  Also the same guy had a band-aid
         on the back of his neck (apparently where his soul was extracted)
         and underneath that is suppose to be 666 (the devil's mark).

    Whoa! pretty wild

	I thought it was Gold glowing...

	Besides why would anybody want the soul?
	

	Toby

    his name was Marsalis or Marsellis 

    
    Re: 102.492
    
    Marsalis wanted to buy back his own soul that he sold to the devil.
    The other guys were just getting it for him
    
    Sloan

>   Marsalis wanted to buy back his own soul that he sold to the devil.

Are you sure you're not getting this mixed up with the Simpson's 
episode where Bart sold his soul to Milhouse?  :-)

Dan

    
    That was a superior Simpons episode.
    
    Deane_who_watches_only_the_Simpsons_and_Trailside

I'd recommend "12 Monkeys" too.  I usually work at home Friday's, but they made
me come in for a meeting in the morning.  So I took the afternoon off and went
to see the monkeys...  I don't think I've seen much of Brad Pitt in anything,
but he certainly makes a nicely convincing psychotic in this one.  It's
not quite what you would call a 'feel good' movie, but it is very well done.

PeterT

    My daughter Lindsey was sick over the weekend so I rented a bunch of
    movies to keep her (and me) on the couch.
    
    Species -- love cheap, crummy Sci-fi stuff and the monster had a great bod 
    9 Months -- my wife loved it, her kind of movie
    Congo -- more stupi, poorly done sci-fi..I loved it!!
    The Indian in The Cupboard -- I liked it. not what I expected
    and a couple of really stupid ones I can't even remember...
    
    
    rfb
    
    
    

    my band was "rain and winded out" or "powered out" on Saturday...we
    were 'sposed to play in Millis, but the whole town was without power,
    so we didn't play...so, I got to stay home and rent a movie...we
    watched the Tina Turner story "What's Love got To Do With It" and I
    thought angela Bassett did an Excellent job as Tina...
    
    obviously it's got her slant to things, but Ike was one sob...I thought
    the movie was very good, but I'm partial to biographies and movies
    based on true stories...
    
    Wes

	the Doors was on the toob last nite. i'd never seen it.
	sad, in a way.

    Thought I'd favor the community with my latest reviews.

    Sid & Nancy - intense, great flick.	
    Clerks - Wonderful!  don't miss it.  very funny.
    The Basketball Diaries - lousy.  formulaic.  predictable.  boring.
    
    You're welcome :-)

    
       clerks was a killer movie!!  8^)
    
                                 ^dave

    did you see the "original" ending?  They had it on the
    special director's edition laserdisc I rented.  I can
    tell you if you want but suffice it to say it's better
    without.

     hmmm...i'm curious. send me e-mail 8^)
    
                                     ^dave

    
    I 3rd the clerks recommendation. :-))))
    
    Harlarious

>    Sid & Nancy - intense, great flick.	
 
I thought the same thing - very intense.

>    The Basketball Diaries - lousy.  formulaic.  predictable.  boring.

Wow,  I was hoping it would be good...
I've been meaning to get this since I'm a big Jim Carroll fan....hmmm....


Thanks,
bob

    
    third for clerks
    
    

    
    FWIW, I give a thumbs up to both clerks and Basketball Diaries. If you
    like Jim Carroll (This boy's life, right?) you'll like this movie
    (maybe.) (probably.)
    

Clerks:  That's the one with the guy in the convienence store and his
friend in the Video store who both hate their jobs, play hockey,
various girlfriends, dealers, etc?  Definitely a great flick.  My favorite
line from that (at least one of the ones you could print ;-)
"Just what kind of convienence store are you running here?"

Hilarious...

PeterT

    and how about that encounter the girlfriend had in the restroom
    
    aaaeeeooooooooowwwwwwwww
    

	last night was chick-night-at-the-movies (except Guntis joined us too)
	
	we went to see "Dead Man Walking", a Tim Robbins film starring
	Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn.

	I thought it was a very powerful movie, all the moreso since it
	was based on true experiences.  The basic plot is - a nun becomes
	the spirtual advisor to a murderer on death row.  The movie is
	very careful to give this story from all sides, letting you make
	your own decision on where you stand on the death penalty.  The
	overwhelming message, though, is the importance of struggling for
	love over hate.

	Excellent performances.  Interesting soundtrack - lots of Indian
	music (tabla) throughout, credits roll over a Bruce Springsteen title 
	track.

    yes it was a very powerful film.  one i might not have gone to left to
    my own devices but i wanted to bond, so I went!  once again i have
    to say SS is due for an oscar for this one. SEan Penn was mesmerizing
    as the murderer.  what power - i didn't know he could act.  i guess
    tim robbins wrote the screen play?  
    
    also did you notice at the end on the credits it said : 'to ..' a
    couple names and one of the name was Thelma Bledsoe.  Was that the 
    last name of Thelma from 'Thelma and Louise' in which SS once again was
    passed over for an award?
    
     

    I saw the real nun, can't remember her name, on CNN before the movie
    was released. Very compelling, fascinating interview. The family of the
    victim was also interviewed. they led one to believe that it was them
    that got the nun to talk to the family...she wasn't very interested at
    first with the victims side...but after meeting them, she realized
    there was a lot more to the entire story than even she wanted to see in
    the very beginning....or something like that. 
    
    rfb

	the movie didn't portray it that she wasn't -interested- in the
	victims' side, rather that she was -afraid- to approach them...

	I don't think she ever really took "sides"...her purpose was to
	help the murderer face what he had done and try to heal his soul
	before he would be put to death...it would have been much easier
	for her to show her love and compassion for the victims only...it 
	was very hard to do what she did because it was misinterpreted as
	taking sides.  She struggled to "love the sinner, not the sin".
	Powerful lesson there.

	Debess

    re:the movie didn't portray it that she wasn't -interested- in the
            victims' side, rather that she was -afraid- to approach them...
    
    
    that's my point...remember, this is Hollywood...from the interview i saw, 
    she had no desire to approach the victims family until they basically 
    "jumped her shit"
    she then saw the need to "heal" both sides, or so the interview seemed
    to suggest (victims family was part of the CNN interview), now that I
    think of it, it wasn't CNN but prob Good Morning AmeriKa or something
    like that. 
    
    rfb_who will prob not see this movie but will watch Species over and
    over again  %^)

	what's Species about, rfb?  I'm not familiar with it...!

	different strokes and all that...but, what -I- like in
	a movie is primarily the acting (a good character study)
	and a plot that gets me thinking (so much so that I will
	continue to think about it afterwards)...what I -don't-
	like in a movie is graphic violence - gratuitious or not.

	Guntis and I rarely agree on the movies that we like.
	Is this a male/female thing?

	Debess

    Species....SETI, Serach for Extra-terrestrial Intelligence (spelling
    sucks) sends out msgs into space, recieves back alien transmission on
    how to combine alien DNA with human DNA. results in a rapidly growing
    child who reaches maturity as a BABE! in like 6 months who's whole goal
    in life is to mate with human males and produce alien/human babys that
    will take over the earth, destroy humankind and populate. some blood,
    cheap lowgrade sci-fi, great T-n-A....MY KINDA SCHLOCK!
    
    RE: is it a male/female thing
    
    see above description...%^) 
    
    I watched this with my 16 yearold, who loves cheap Sci-fi too, but,
    being the feminist she is hated the T-n-A...of course
    
    my wife *hated* this movie...needless to say
    rfb

>    child who reaches maturity as a BABE! in like 6 months who's whole goal

	I didn't see that one either...isn't that about a pig? ;-)

	Debess

    no....that's me.
    
    rfb

	:-)  love ya, rfb!

    
    Babe came in 3rd in the Oscar running (behind Braveheart & Apollo 13)
    with 7 nominations.
    
    Picture
    Supporting Actor
    Directing
    Screenplay (previously published)
    Art Direction
    Editing
    Visual Effects
    

  I guess I didn't get "Babe"...  Everyone we know praised it to the skies.
  So, I take kids of varying ages to see it.
  
  The youngest (5) is very upset when Babe's mother is slaughtered.  Had to
  leave the theater.
  
  The almost-teens are bored and embarrassed their friends might see them.

  The culminating scene strains credibility to the limit...

  Who knows, if I went in with no clue as to what to expect, I mighta loved
  it.  Over-hyping movies to friends seems sets 'em up for disappointment....
    - JayC.

I saw Species and was rather unimpressed.  Some nice effects, a bit too 
much blood and guts, a few nice bods, but extremely predictable.  Not my 
type.  But then I liked "Thelma and Louise".  Go figger...

PeterT

>    no....that's me.

Thanks again for the chuckle of the day, rfb! ;-)

    
    >The youngest (5) is very upset when Babe's mother is slaughtered.
    
    poop. I haven't seen it yet.  :}
    
    

>    poop. I haven't seen it yet.  :}

  Not to worry -- that's just the beginning.  She gets it even earlier than
  Bambi's mother, the lion king's father, etc.  Not as quick as "Bambi Meets
  Godzilla", though.    - JayC.

    
    >"Bambi Meets
      Godzilla",
    
    Now THAT'S an oscar-winner...  :)
    
    

    What's the deal with this movie Babe?
    
    It looked like a cheesy kiddie flick with a pig... but now I'm starting
    to wonder if it's trying to introduce people to vegetarianism.
    
    'noky_whos_been_eatin_a_lot_more_beans_lately_and_should_probably_get_some_beano

    
    Thanks to Chris Kupiec, I now know what the music on the Pulp
    Fiction soundtrack is classified as.
    
    Zydeco!!!!!!
    
    Deane_zydeco_fan

    >"Bambi Meets Godzilla"
    
    I occasionally wonder if this cartoon short still pops up at film
    festivals.  Yes, someone actually came up with such a thing.  Hilarious,
    if predictable.      8)    - JayC.

    re: petert and Species...
    
    *EXACTLY* why I liked it! %^)
    
    rfb_easily amused
    
    I liked Thelma and Louise, too

    re JayC a couple back...
    
    i don't know about film fests and stuff, but it does occasionally make
    late night cable every so often... :^)

Re:  Bambi vs. Godzilla

You can rent it at video stores w/ a decent animation section too.

bob

re: the movie Babe

We rented a movie for the kids that had preview for Babe, and it looks
hilarious!  At least, it's in the parents-can-watch-it-too category for
kids movies.  It's gotten really good reviews too. 

Just seeing the characters (animals) and some of the voices had me 
crackin' up!   Definitely looked worth it in a suitable frame of mind.

As far as Babe's parent getting slaughtered, I think it's good for kids
to know that meat comes from animals, not just from nicely wrapped packages 
in the meat dept at supermarkets.  My kids sure know.  Timmy wants to hunt
for some of his own meat, and I don't event hunt!

/Ken

    teach yer kids to hunt and fish. 
    The most endearing young memories I have of my father and I are ones setting
    around a lake or campfire. During VietNam and all the sh*t that went
    with it, we grew apart...now we are as close as ever because of those
    early fishing days, and we still plan a couple of fishing trips
    together each year. 
    
    as little kids, Patty and I always drug ours along on outdoor
    excursions...they grew apart from that and us during the "terrible
    teens", now both are heavy into outdoors activities/interests.  
    
    makes me feel good that I had an influence over them as little kids
    that is now one of the bigest influences of their "adult" lives. 
    
    rfb

>    teach yer kids to hunt and fish. 

	I'll teach my kids what I want to - DAMMIT! ;-)...
	I like the outdoor part - but since I don't hunt or fish myself,
	I can't exactly see myself teaching my kids to do it!

	but if I -did- do that, and -did- teach them, I think I would do it 
	with the idea of teaching them to respect and give thanks to the 
	animals giving up their lives for my substenance - kinda like what I 
	do around the dinner table every night...

	Debess

    re: Debess, and "but if I did...."
    
    
    exactly......to do so without the respect, imo, is wrong.
    
    also, to not give a kid a fishing pole at, say around the age of 5-6
    should be a crime punishable by death....err, I mean punishable by
    making one serve time with Manson. %^)
    
    
    rfb

    
>    also, to not give a kid a fishing pole at, say around the age of 5-6
>    should be a crime punishable by death....

	I hope that the fact that Guntis has done this has -me- covered ;-)

	Debess

>	with the idea of teaching them to respect and give thanks to the 
>	animals giving up their lives for my substenance - 
	
	and two rules I go by:
	- only take what you need or what you can use
	(i know guys who fill their freezer with fish, just to take them)
	- never take the biggest or the best, don't take the young.
	(ensures strong survival of the species)
	
	

    I'm not worried about you , Debess....%^) and Guntis will surely go the
    heaven...%^)
    
    I was waiting for "fisherman suport", Jay!  %^) God, looking at these
    damn Cabelas magizines hurts the credit card!
    
    rfb

<--  Ha!  ;-)
	
	i'm brwosing the cabela's catalogue and making a list.
	
	as an aside, i got a cabela's visa card a while ago and they
	offer points on purchases, which translates to cash on cabela's
	orders. so, when i bought a computer in october i put it on my
	credit card for 30 days, then got a dcu loan. made a bunch of
	cabela's $$ which i'm about ready to cash in!!  :-)
	
	my count says 37 days 'til the boat hits the water.
	

    A CABELA'S CREDIT CARD!!!! DON'T TELL ME THAT SH*T!!!!
    
    ya know how "friends" can send "friends" a free Cabela (I don't know if
    they are really friends or not cause I don't have that kinda dough) 
    maybe we should send Debess and Guntis one???   %^)
    
    
    rfb

>    maybe we should send Debess and Guntis one???   %^)
    
	don't bother yourself - we already get 'em...(I read books,...
	he reads Cabela's catalogs...)

	Debess

>   also, to not give a kid a fishing pole at, say around the age of 5-6
>   should be a crime [...]

Actually, you can give them a pole even earlier...but hold off on the
hooks until at least then!  We bought little rubber goldfish and tied
them on the end of the line...it's just the right weight for the kids
to fling...stick a hula hoop on the grass to give them a target and
they're all set...better yet, take them to any body of water larger
than a dixie cup and they'll be content for hours.

I've got a picture in my office of my daughter (at age 6) holding up
her first fish (a little sunnie)...she's so proud.

Dan

    yer right, Dan...no more crimes....but one should be forced to eat
    worms ....%^)
    
    Debess....no offense taken, I hope, because of my notes....
    
    rfb

	rfb, now I am truly offended...for you to think that I would
	be offended and have to ask

    I *knew* I was gonna get that.....%^)
    
    
    rfb

    
    Re: teach yer kids to hunt and fish.
    
    I agree about fishing RFB.  
    
    My Dad used to take my fishing and I really enjoyed the sport,
    being outside, and bonding over something I could do even as
    a youngster.  It's a real thrill to get one on the line and
    fun to share the excitement when someone else catches one.
    
    One of the nicest gifts I received this past Christmas, was 
    from my brother. We'd gone trout fishing in the fall and he
    saw I was in need of some additions to my tackle box.  He
    gave me a well thought out tackle box filled with all kinds
    of lures, plastic worms, hooks, etc.
    
    I'm looking forward to Spring so I can try out all that new
    stuff!
    
    I never did hunt though. How's that saying go? ... 'cept for 2 legged
    bucks? ; ;  
    
    Sloan
    
    
    
    

    yeeeha!  now that's huntin'...  :^)  course my license is only 
    stamped for does.... :^)

I didn't get a Cabela's catalog - but have seen them.  Pretty comprehensive.

I did however just receive both the Mepp's yealry catalog + fish journal and
also the Shimano one.

Still skiing but thinking ahead to a trout packed stream...
:)
bob

    back to the topic....
    
    I watched the Fishing with Orlando Wilson Show last weekend.....
    
    rfb

	went to see "Leaving Las Vegas" last night - probably only because
	Nicholas Cage was nominated for Best Actor - had been avoiding it
	based on the depressing plot I had been forwarned about...

	it was a very, VERY depressing movie - not very much at all that
	will make you smile - unless it's because you're seeing Elizabeth
	Shue's body - but even that - the context of her depressing situation
	and the occasional violence that her life involves - even that ends
	up being something not to smile about.

	But, Nicholas Cage -does- put on an outstanding performance here.
	A lot of times I can get past the subject of a movie if there is
	good acting involved.  (Couldn't do that with Casino - couldn't get
	past the violence).  So, if that's what you're into - see it.
	His performance is excellent.
	
	I probably wouldn't even enter a note about it - cause it's 
	certainly not a movie I'm saying to go run out and see - but for
	the fact that it hit me while I was watching it - Nicholas Cage
	reminds me of Deane-o.  I don't know if it's some of his facial 
	expressions, some of his mannerisms,  or the way he sometimes 
	speaks or what exactly it is - but that hit me last night.

	Debess

    
            RE: - Nicholas Cage reminds me of Deane-o.  I don't know if 
            it's some of his facial expressions, some of his mannerisms, 
            or the way he sometimes speaks or what exactly it is - 
            but that hit me last night.
          
            Yes Debess. I think so too. I've told Deano that a couple
            of times. It's that big smile ... 
    
    
            Cath

    
    saw NC just this morning on some Good Morning America type show and
    that thought ran thru my mind also.....maybe it was the red-eyes....
    rfb

    
    Ahhh.  Finally getting caught up on notes.
    
    re - Nicholas Rage
    
    I'll hafta watch the movie just to see what this handsome devil looks 
    like.  We probably both have the same huge beak.
    
    >that thought ran thru my mind also.....maybe it was the red-eyes....
    
    HA! That's it!!! :-)))

	...if you want to see him in something funny...try
	Raising Arizona

    Nick's a cool dude, I think that's the connection 

RE:  Nick Cage

Was he in Wild Hearts (the David blood_gore_headwounds Lynch flick)???
I think so.....

bob

    he was in Moonstruck - a most excellent movie .. in which he
    utters one of my all time fave lines:
    
    (loudly ... waving his arm in the air - the arm which is missing a 
    hand in the film) "I ain't no freakin' monument to justice!!!"
    as a reaction to Cher quizzing him about his unfairness toward his
    brother.
    

    Last of the Dogmen on video.....good sci-fci, adventure, love story. A
    little hokey in some parts, but if one overlooks those and concentrates
    on the story line and the authenticity of the Indians portrayed, it's a
    cool flick.
    
    rfb

    anyone see the movie 12 monkeys?
    bizarre..but good
    
    heat with deniro and pacino was on after but seeing as it is 3 hours
    long and it was 1030 i only saw the first half hour.....

	Chris,

	Ya I saw the monkee flick Bizarre but good fit's it to a tee.
	The ending was pretty good  makes ya wonder

	Toby

    I saw Tin Cup this weekend.... wait until it comes out on video,
    it was very slow.

    Saw a quirky, off-beat western called Dead Man and I reccommend it.
    Stars Johnny Depp with cameos by some well knows, Robert Mitchum, John
    Hurt and Gabriel Byrne.  It's strange in a nice way.  B+W with music by
    Neil Young.  I think Deadheads will like it.
    
    Regards,
    
    Dermot