Conference rdvax::grateful

Dead related for certain....

There's gonna be a record (I think there is a march release) that will
be other bands doing covers of Dead tunes.

I've misplaced (in my memory) the name of the LP and also some who_will_
do_what connections but:
Elvis Costello will do Ship of Fools (he did this live back on his ?87? tour)
Los Lobos doing Bertha
Indigo Girls doing ??Friend of the Devil??
and others....
I cut the article out and I'll see if I can remember :) where I put it....

should be a lot of fun!
bob

ps.  Oh yeah....Lyle Lovett'll do a tune too...maybe that is was him doing
Friend of the Devil and the Indigo's doing Uncle John's...??  
anybody else read this??

No, I didn't read whatever you read, Bob, but I have heard
that proceeds from the album will go to the rainforest 
funds.

tms

	Recently released:

	Country Joe McDonald: "Superstitious Blues"
				with guest Jerry Garcia

	Put out by Rykodisk.   Should be great!

	Ken

more info for you...
the album will be called Deadicated and it is a tribute to 
the Dead by other artists doing dead covers ...

in addition to what I put in a note or 2 ago here's a bit of the lineup 
(dunno whether it's complete or not):

Lyle Lovett - Friend of the Devil
Midnight Oil - Wharf Rat
Cowboy Junkies - To Lay Me Down
Jane's Addiction - Ripple
Dwight Yoakam - Truckin'
Elvis Costello - Ship of Fools
Indigo Girls - Uncle John's Band

I for one am waiting for the day I can run right down and buy it...
I mean, Juanas Addicion doing Ripple...I can hear it now ... "ooooooo
who is that band ****ing up Ripple!"  I like Jane's Addiction....
Midnight Oil doing Wharf Rat!  This'll be interesting...the rest are 
what I would call apropos match ups (tune vs past styling...)

No Hornsby doing TN JED or Jack Straw?? I thought for certain that 
that'd be on there?  (probably not complete though with only 7 songs?
but then again...).

bob

RE:       <<< Note 38.4 by LANDO::HAPGOOD "Leroy says, 'keep on rockin'" >>>




>Cowboy Junkies - To Lay Me Down


 I'll buy it just for this :^)





Jim

This album is another reason why the Dead are such a great band.  What other
band would have such a tribute made to them?  Maybe the Beatles, that's about
all I can think of.

I'd be mighty flattered if I were the Dead.

On top of it, the lineup of groups is quite diverse.  Another indication of the
Dead's far-reaching effect.

I just hope Jane's Addiction doesn't metal-ize Ripple.  Frankly, I don't think
they'd do such a thing.

adam

Posted w/o permission:

Article 20691 of rec.music.gdead:
From: CBO@cornellc.bitnet

Here are all the Without A Net track ID's that I have, as well as the
remaining songs and dates.  If anyone has any other concrete ID's, please
email them to me and/or post them to the net.  Thanks.

Stranger                   10/09/89 - Hampton Coliseum
China>Rider                04/01/90 - The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Eyes                       03/29/90 - Nassau Coliseum
Help>Slip>Franks           03/30/90 - Nassau Coliseum
Dear Mr. Fantasy           04/01/90 - The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Mississippi 1/2 Step       03/21/90 - Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
Althea                     03/15/90 - Capital Centre, Landover, MD
Bird Song                  03/16/90 - Captial Centre, Landover, MD
Let It Grow                03/14/90 - Capitol Centre, Landover, MD

Remaining songs: (Note: I've not bothered to print dates that have been
                  eliminated)

Walkin' Blues              10/01/89 - Shoreline
                           10/08/89 - Hampton
                           10/15/89 - Brendan Byrne Arena
                           10/23/89 - Charlotte Coliseum
                           12/06/89 - Earthquake Relief, Oakland Coliseum
                           12/30/89 - Oakland Coliseum
                           02/26/90 - Oakland Coliseum
                           03/15/90 - Capital Center, Landover, MD
                           03/24/90 - Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
                           04/01/90 - The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Cassidy                    10/01/89 - Shoreline Amphitheater
                           10/19/89 - Philadelphia Spectrum
                           12/08/89 - Great Western Forum, Los Angeles
                           02/25/90 - Oakland Coliseum
                           03/15/90 - Capital Center, Landover, MD
                           03/28/90 - Nassau Coliseum

Looks Like Rain            10/12/89 - Brendan Byrne Arena
                           10/23/89 - Charlotte Coliseum
                           12/08/89 - Oakland Coliseum
                           03/18/90 - Hartford Civic Center
                           03/28/90 - Nassau Coliseum

Victim Or The Crime        10/15/89 - Brendan Byrne Arena
                           10/19/89 - Philadelphia Spectrum
                           10/26/89 - Miami Sports Arena
                           12/06/89 - Earthquake Relief, Oakland Coliseum
                           12/10/89 - Great Western Forum, Los Angeles
                           12/31/89 - Oakland Coliseum
                           02/27/90 - Oakland Coliseum, Mardi Gras
                           03/21/90 - Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
                           03/26/90 - Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY

One More Saturday Night    12/09/89 - Great Western Forum, Los Angeles
                           12/30/89 - Oakland Coliseum
                           03/24/90 - Knickerbocker Arean, Albany, NY

If you can possibly help to whittle this down furthur, I for one would
really like to get all of these down.
                                                          Toapher

A non-GRATEFULized 'head here told me that there were some tapes recorded in
Weir's basement around the time of Blues for Allah, and they're about to be
released?  ... can anyone confirm?

- Dave

    I don't know if this is the same, but the cd of "Seastones" that
    recently came out has a 30-minute second version recorded in December
    '75.
    
    Scott
    

    
    
    talking to the folks at tower records last night, the have April 23rd
    as the albums release date.
    
    s

    
    Thanks for reminding me.. I heard a pre-release copy of the tape on
    the way up to Albany!  A lot of the cuts sound really grate.. some
    are other bands doing dead tunes so they still sound familiar (just new
    voices, instruments), and others are completely rearranged so that all
    that's the same is the lyric (like Burning Spear's version of Estimated
    Prophet!)  
    
    I'll definately pick up a copy when it's released.
    
    Phyllis
    
    
    

    
    Any news on when "One from the Vault" will be released - the 8/13/75
    Great American Hall show.  Last I heard it was the second week in
    April.
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry

     <<< Note 38.12 by AD::VAUK "love will see you through" >>>
                                  -< Open the Vault >-
    
    
        >>Any news on when "One from the Vault" will be released
    
        Rockit Records' in Nashua has a calendar with release dates on it.
        The vault CDs are marked for a 4/15 release date and the cover
        album is due on 4/23. Their dates are usually pretty reliable.

I heard somewhere that One From the Vault was scheduled for 4/4, but then
saw that calandar in Rockit Records with the 4/15 date..


How 'bout the new JGB release date..anybody know?




Jim

From: jojw@troi.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Subject: A net.rap on the upcoming DEADICATED compilation
Date: 2 Apr 91 16:31:11 GMT
 
Disclaimer:  Before posting this article, I emailed David Gans for
net.etiquette advice on posting soon-to-be-released material.
 
Between the Glandover and Grassau runas last week, I acquired a promo
cassette copy of DEADICATED, the upcoming Grateful Dead Tribute
Compilation, complete with an Arista Records press release.
After listening to the tape a good handful of times, I doubt that anyone
here will be disappointed with the compilation.      
 
Here's a full listing of the tracks, with a few comments by yours truly.
 
SIDE A
======
"Bertha" - Los Lobos                             
        - Left coasters who attended the JGB Shoreline show last year
                received a preview of this tune, as Los Lobos played this
                as an encore.  A nice jammy section at song's end,
                and Steve Berlin's accordion adds a unique flavor found
                in a good portion of Los Lobos recordings.
 
"Jack Straw" - Bruce Hornsby & the Range         
        - Upstate NY Netheads who attended the Hornsby show at
                Geneseo received a preview, and the Range's studio
                version here is very good.  Some subtle changes
                in arrangement to fit the Range's sound, but the
                essence of this rendition owes very much to the Dead.
 
"U.S. Blues" - The Harshed Mellows               
        - This didn't cut it for me.  The band consists of three
                Heartbreakers (guitarist Mike Campbell, keyboardist
                Benmont Tench, drummer Stan Lynch), two Georgia Satellites
                (Dan Baird on lead vocals, Mauro Magellan on drums),
                Michelle Malone on backing vocals and Brendan O'Brien on 
                bass.  The hamheaded "southern boogie" arrangements waste the 
                Heartbreakers' talents, and Dan Baird's vocal shrieks are
                a cross between Steven Tyler and Rod Stewart.  Imagine
                imitation rehashed Aerosmith, and you have an idea
                of what this dud sounds like.  When you get the CD and play
                this once, you'll want to skip it.
 
"Ship Of Fools" - Elvis Costello                 
        - A poignant, heartfelt rendition with taste.  Costello also
                avoids his higher range, and *sings* this rather than
                blars it out.  While the rendition's arrangements differ
                from the Dead versions we all know, it also is played
                with a similar aura to the MARS HOTEL studio cut.
 
"China Doll->Cassidy" - Suzanne Vega       
        - A dreamy vocal performance with sparse backup.  "Cassidy"
                is based off the ACE studio original.  "China Doll"
                features Vega's breathy vocals and an innocence
                that derives from the MARS HOTEL version.  One
                of my favorite tracks so far.
 
"Truckin'" - Dwight Yoakam                       
        - A barrel-chested southern country rocker with plenty of
                punch.  Yoakam's yodelish vocals also provide plenty
                of amusement, and the song is played with country &
                western gusto.
 
"Casey Jones" - Warren Zevon w/ David Lindley    
        - A straightforward rocker, with some nice slide work by
                Lindley.  Zevon's vocals are what you could expect,
                as the rendition is a cross between Zevon's vision
                and southern California rock.
 
 
SIDE B
======
"Uncle John's Band" - Indigo Girls               
        - SIGH!!:-}  Absolutely wonderful!  Based on the Dead's
                studio version.  One lyric has changed to, "SISTER,
                I declare/ Have you seen the like".  Played with
                taste and the Indigos' vocals shine sweetly. 
                Emily Saliers also chips in some nice guitar lines
                that pay loving tribute to Garcia.
 
"Friend Of The Devil" - Lyle Lovett              
        - Another superb reading.  A laid-back, homey country
                arrangement where Lovett's vocal and acoustic 
                guitar are the mix's main focus.  Very tasteful.
                Those who caught his recent appearance on Late
                Night With David Letterman already have a good idea
                of what this track is like.
 
"To Lay Me Down" - Cowboy Junkies                  
        - SIGH!!:-}  Margo Timmins' vocals are impeccible here,
                and the Junkies' subtle backup is tasteful
                throughout, including dobro, mandolin, and accordion.  My
                vote for the best cover of the compilation.
 
"Wharf Rat" - Midnight Oil                       
        - The other track that failed to move me.  A bit new
                wavish as you could expect, but the arrangements
                themselves are a tad simplistic.  However, I will
                be the first to say that the New Wave genre doesn't
                do much for me, so those with "new music" tastes
                (that I lack) will probably enjoy this one.  Other
                complaint:  this is a ballad, but the rock arrangements
                are too fast, so the song's actual pathos becomes lost
                to these ears.  I may be in the minority here, so 
                judge for yourself on April 23rd.
        
"Estimated Prophet" - Burning Spear              
        - A natural fit, and Winston Rodney and company deliver
                an intense, tribal reading that is a cross between
                reggae/rap and ska.  Great stuff!
 
"Deal" - Dr. John                                
        - Another gem, but I'm not surprised, as Mac Rebennack
                utilizes tasteful New Orleans-like arrangements.
                Sung and played with a feel only the good doctor
                can provide, with some great brass in the background,
                and a nice guitar solo (but since the press release
                doesn't list the musician credits, I have no idea
                who it is).  Again...great stuff!
 
"Ripple" - Jane's Addiction                      
        - An interesting cover which fades while the band plays the
                opening bars of "The Other One".  Thankfully, the
                excesses are kept to a minumum, and the band produces
                an updated reading that stresses a nervous urgency
                rather than the reflection of life itself.
 
 
The release date is April 23rd.  No, I haven't seen the cover yet,
but even on tape, the sound quality is crisp and clean throughout.
Probably the most impressive thing about this compilation are the
diversity of artists selected from different genres (pop, folk,
new wave, reggae, rock), and how all unite to create an impressive
package.  However, because of that diversity, I don't know if you'll
enjoy every track; and that becomes an issue of personal tastes
and subjectivity.
 

Sounds great!  Can't wait to give it a listen...  

Heck, I'll buy it just to hear Margo Timmins :^}




Sounds real good though.




Jim

    
    It is.  
    
    

    Rockit Records (Nashua, NH) just got their copies of "One From the
    Vault"!! It's selling for 15.99 for a two-CD set. The contents are:
    
    Disk 1
    ------
    Introduction
    Help on the Way
    Franklin's Tower (hmmm, Slipknot's not listed!)
    Music Never Stopped
    Must Have Been the Roses
    Eyes of the World
    Drums
    King Solomon's Marbles 
    Around and Around
    
    Disc 2
    ------
    Sugaree
    Big River
    Crazy Fingers
    Drums
    The Other One
    Sage and Spirit!!
    GDTRFB
    U.S. Blues
    Blues for Allah
    
    This matches up with the complete setlist in DeadBase but I'm surprised
    they didn't list the Slipknot portion. All I want to do now is go
    home and crank the stereo:-).
    
    Quickly adding up the times, it comes out to a little over 120 minutes
    long!
    
    Mike

    SH!T, I called all the Strawberries around Shrewsbury area but noone
    has it yet, but one of the people I talked to (Westboro store) said
    she'd call me when it came in (shes waiting for it too)......
    
    Chris

WOW!

Noteworthy is getting on Apr 30!

Let us know how it sounds!  I wonder if they'll have the entire introduction.

Hey Chris, let me know when she calls you!!!  At Lechmere they didn't even
know what I was talking about. ;^(

    
    Lisa, I stopped by Strawberries last nite ('cause I had to see for
    myself) and they didn't have them in but they will have them by next
    Tuesday the 23rd.
    			anyway......
    Im not waiting for a call no more, one found its way to my desk this
    morning !!!!!! thanks oh grate phone call from hell ! I almost drove to
    NH last nite but was saved by the bell :')
    
    
    	Not bad packaging but the big question is what are they gonna 
    call the next one ?
    
    	"Another one from the vault" ? or maybe, "That makes two" ? and the 
    3rd one would be called "Good things come in 3s" ?
    
    
    	it boogles the mind.........now do-net ?
    
    
    Chris

Hope Rockit wil have one left when I get there tonight :^/






Jim

	Plenty in stock at the Minor Chord in Acton MA...

	The fold up box with plastic inserts is pretty funky - and I
	don't particularly care for it.  I would much rather have the
	standard jewel boxes.

	Sound quality is fine.  The full introductions are there.

	I would love to see the Maples Pavilion show of 15 Feb 73 
	released :-)

	Bob_who_went_into_the_Minor_Chord_to_get_One_From_The_Vault_
	and_left_with_seven_new_CD's

RE:        <<< Note 38.25 by GR8FUL::WHITE "Without love in a dream..." >>>
                              -< Quick comments >-


>	I would love to see the Maples Pavilion show of 15 Feb 73 
>	released :-)


        Would that be 2-9-73? ;^)



	Jim who would also like to see that one released.

Re:    <<< Note 38.26 by DASXPS::HENDERSON "With a billion stars all around" >>>

>>	I would love to see the Maples Pavilion show of 15 Feb 73 
>>	released :-)

>        Would that be 2-9-73? ;^)

	Oops!  Quite the embarassment.  For penance I'll eat all my old
	copies of Deadbase - without using any ketchup :-) :-) :-)

	However, the 15 Feb 73 from St. Paul MN (?) would also be
	a nice one to release.

	And I know at least one person that would love see the
	June 74 Jai Lai Pavilion Miami shows on CD - right Josh? :-)

	Bob

re < Note 38.27 by GR8FUL::WHITE "Without love in a dream..." >

>	And I know at least one person that would love see the
>	June 74 Jai Lai Pavilion Miami shows on CD - right Josh? :-)

	quoteing Dale Cooper (who was quoting Big Ed):
		"You bet!!!"

	Also, 6/18/74, 5/20/70, 8/23/72 !!!, theres so many...!

	One wonders who often Dan Healy will be releasing the vault tapes...
	i.e, 

	"What's the frequency, Dan?"  ! ;-) ;-) ;-)

	Gonna run over to the Minor Chord in a few minutes, jeeze thats a
	lot closer than Nashua!   

	Josh

RE:        <<< Note 38.27 by GR8FUL::WHITE "Without love in a dream..." >>>
                                   -< Oops! >-



>	However, the 15 Feb 73 from St. Paul MN (?) would also be
>	a nice one to release.


        Madison, Wisconsin  :^)



	
       Sinsinatee kid  :^)

RE:        <<< Note 38.25 by GR8FUL::WHITE "Without love in a dream..." >>>

>	I would love to see the Maples Pavilion show of 15 Feb 73 
>	released :-)

	Meaning 2-9-73. Who needs a vault CD of that show? I just made a 
    	copy from a DAT 1st gen of a 2-track Healy mix soundboard master 
    	reel. Not from the official vault master, mind you, but from a 
    	sweet master tape nevertheless. Can you say 1st gen soundboard 
    	quality? ;-) Part of a string of reeeely low gen tapes I'm planning 
    	to release to you all at some point in the future when I have the
    	time. You do all remember that I was planning to release some of these
    	tapes, right?
    							Gerry

Thanks to Prob's for picking up a copy for me! Listening to it now, absolutely
stellar sound quality!!! I like the packaging very much. Totally simple. Drop
the thing, it don't break. The best damned Big River I ever did hear!

Fog

re:  <<< Note 38.30 by SA1794::GLADUG >>>

>    	;-) Part of a string of reeeely low gen tapes I'm planning 
>    	to release to you all at some point in the future when I have the
>    	time. You do all remember that I was planning to release some of these
>    	tapes, right?

We'll hold our breath until then...sounds sweeeeet!!  8-)

peace,
t!ng

Is the Minor Chord in Action = to the Pink Church Music Store?  If not, direx
to the Minor Chord would be appreciated.  How much are they going for there?

At lunch on the radio I heard U.S. Blues from it.
SOunds niiiiiiiiiiiccccccccceeee. 8-)


Shawn

Called Strawberries in Derry...there response (one which I'm getting used
to hearing from these folks): "Huh?"


Of course they didn't know who the Austin Lounge Lizards are either ;^)





Jim

	The Minor Chord is charging $19.9x for it  :-((((

	they are in the same shopping plaza at the Acton Cinemas (now called
	Hoyt Cinemas or somethin') on Rt. 2A, next to the Folsom Chowder House 
	and behind the liquer store thats right on Rt. 2A.

	There was at least 1 copy left in the bin as of 13:30 today, but
	they'd probably have more in the store somewhere.  CALL AHEAD to be
	sure!!!

	Josh

re:                      <<< Note 38.30 by SA1794::GLADUG >>>

re: Maples Pavilion board tape
    
>   Not from the official vault master, mind you, but from a 
>   sweet master tape nevertheless. 
    
    Er, actually, I guess it *is* an official vault tape. I checked last night 
    and the source is CJ - and not a board patch like I thought. So that
    makes my copy a 1st gen from a DAT copy of the original. To be treed
    out in the near future if the interest is there.
    
    - Gerry

    The interest is there, Gerry ...
    
    					... Bobbb
    
    

    
    I will second Bobbb - there is strong interest.  I would be more than
    happy to run the tree and the distribution for you Gerry, if you would
    like.  
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry

    Basically, I want to distribute them via a taping party. I don't
    have time to run one now. I'm looking for a new job and have to
    find a new place to live first.

    
    Oh and you think that's more important that taping, huh?
    
    ;-) ;-)
    
    Good luck in all your searches!
    
    

    Gerry, I'll be happy to host a taping party at my place when you're
    ready.  It's not as ideal as Fog and Rachel's (what place is), but
    if ya need a place consider this an open offer ...
    
    							... Bob
    
    PS - I live in Worcester
    

    
    I took this off the net since it reminded me I'd been meaning to talk
    about it in here anyway.  My friend, Steve, has a pre-released copy
    also and what I've heard (only over the phone so far) sounds grate! 
    He's got about 140 minutes worth, but told me that 2 of the songs he's
    got were cut from the to-be-released version.  I don't remember which. 
    Hopefully I'll get to hear the whole thing soon.  Does anyone know the
    scheduled release date?
    
    When he first received the tapes, he was given 4 60 minute tapes and we
    all freaked thinking it was so much music!  Turned out to be only about
    35 minutes a tape, though. Pretty weird way to record it, huh?  Anyway
    - here's the play list.
    
    Phyllis
     
 
From: Rob Gilde <gilde@fiasco.boeing.com>
Subject: Song list for new JGB release
Reply-To: gilde@fiasco.boeing.com
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 91 18:42:34 GMT
 
I don't remember seeing this posted.  This is the song lineup as it
appears on an advance promo pre-recorded cassette.  The tape was titled
"Jerry Garcia Band" and is to be released on Arista records.  It looks
to be about the right length for a 2-CD set.  What I've heard so far
sounds good.  I think they did a fine job of capturing the live JGB
sound.
 
Tape 1:
 
The Way You Do The Things You Do
Waiting for A Miracle
Simple Twist Of Fate
Get Out Of My Life
 
My Sisters And Brothers
I Shall Be Released
Dear Prudence
Deal
 
Tape 2:
 
Stop That Train
Senor
Evangeline
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
 
Don't Let Go
That Lucky Old Sun
Tangled Up In Blue
 
------------------------------
 

    
    I can't wait to get my ears on that - I hope the version of Don't let
    Go is real hot - that is one of my favorite tunes.....
    
    Happy Cheese-
    Jerry:-)

Does anyone know if the JGB stuff is recent material, older stuff, or a combo?

>   <<< Note 38.45 by BIODTL::FERGUSON "the rainbow does not have a beard" >>>

> Does anyone know if the JGB stuff is recent material, older stuff, or a combo?

From what I understand it's all from recent live performances of various 
material.  Can't wait to hear it!

Ken

    When will it be out???
    
    rich

    At the end of August according to the clendar at Rockit.
    
    Also on the calendar, in the I-can't-believe-they're getting-back-
    together department: a new album by Procol Harum! With most of the
    originals, Gary Brooker, Robin Trower, Matthew Fisher, Keith Reid doing
    the lyrics. Supposed to do a tour too.
    
    Scott
    

     Last night on the "Deadhead Hour" they played "Tangled up in Blue"
    from the soon-to -be released JGB live album...it was very good...
    I can't wait to hear the rest of the stuff...
    
                 DaveB.

Hey!  I can't believe that I'm the only one in here with the newly
released Garcia/Grisman CD.  Or am I?

I found it it Tower Records, Boston, on Saturday.  I've played it 
about six times since then!  I love it!

The title is simply "jerry GARCIA / david GRISMAN".  The line up is Jerry 
on guitar and vocals, David on mandolin (of cours), Jim Kerwin on bass,
Joe Craven on percussion and fiddle (no, not at the same time!).

The songs:

		The Thrill Is Gone (4:43)
		Grateful Dawg (3:39)
		Two Soldiers (4:24)
		Friend of the Devil (7:04)
		Russian Lullaby (4:12)
		Dawg's Waltz (4:34)
		Walkin' Boss (5:17)
		Rockin' Chair (7:56)
		Arabia (16:25)

For a total time of 58:28.  Yes...Arabia really is over 16-minutes long!

It's copyright 1991 on the Acoustic Disk label (Grisman's label?).  acd-2.

tms

    I heard some of the JGB live disk on the radio saturday. sounds
    pretty hot.

    The new JGB set comes out tomorrow. It's a 2 disc set. Don't know what
    other formats it will be in.
    
    Scott
    

    Got the new JGB cd here - it's called just "Jerry Garcia Band".
    Rockit has it for $17.99, Lechmere has it on sale for $17.98.
    
    Contents:
    The Way You Do The Things You Do (8:08)
    Waiting For A Miracle (5:54)
    Simple Twist of Fate (11:54)
    Get Out Of My Life (8:53)
    My Sisters and Brothers (4:17)
    I Shall Be Released (9:26)
    Dear Prudence (11:41)
    Deal (8:38)
    
    Stop That Train (8:51)
    Senor (7:43)
    Evangeline (4:47)
    The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down (9:36)
    Don't Let Go (17:16)  (!!)
    That Lucky Old Sun (11:32)
    Tangled Up In Blue (12:16)
    
    It doesn't say where it was recorded, other than in 1990. Good deal for
    the price. A 2 disc set and it's still cheaper than Dead Set! Why is
    that still so expensive?
    
    Also, Lechmere is having a sale on all Warner/Reprise/Atlantic/Virgin/
    Elektra/Asylum/etc labels, 20-25% off. Time to fill in the collection
    of old Dead! I just paid $18.39 for Europe '72.
    
    Scott
    

Picked up the new JGB last night.  Only had a chance to get as far as Simple
Twist of Fate, but I like what I heard.  Real nice.






Jim

    Besides a new live JGB there's a new Robert Hunter live CD out called
    "Box of Rain." The nine live tunes are from his December '90 tour.
    Hunter made direct recordings of all the shows but audience tapes cut
    on a DAT recorder from the last night of the tour were rated as juicier
    by Hunter so he used those rather than board tapes for most of the
    cuts. Two of the cuts, "Franklin's Tower" and "Space" were recorded at
    his show in Somerville!
    
    Song list:
    
    Box of Rain (5:48)
    Scarlet Begonias (3:22)
    Franklin's Tower (4:40)
    Jack Straw (3:55)
    Brown-Eyed Women (3:30)
    Reuben & Cherise (8:28)
    Space (1:58)
    Deal (2:55)
    Promontory Rider (4:58)
    Ripple (3:52)
    Boys in the Barroom (1:23)
    Stella Blue (3:58)
    
    The cover art is identical to the book that came out last fall.
    Speaking of books, Dan Gans' new book, "Conversations with the Dead"
    should be in the stores by now, too.

FYI, my feeble calculations show the Hunter CD cut numbers totaling up
to 48:47 for the disk.

tms

    Because of the reviews in this file, I bought the JGB cd a couple of
    weeks ago.  I was KNOCKED OUT by this album.  I haven't heard much JGB
    music before and was really impressed.  (Darn, now I have to save the
    pennies for another group of concerts!)  Thanks noters for more Grate
    advice.
    
    
    -jer 

    I even heard WBCN play a cut from it! They did Deal on Monday night.
    Next thing you know George Bush will use a Jerry song in his campaign.
    
    What song do you think he'd use?
    
    Scott
    

RE:            <<< Note 38.58 by BCSE::ABBOT "That would be telling" >>>

       
   > What song do you think he'd use?
    
    
     Simple Twist of Fate?   Or Deal.




  Jim    

re:            <<< Note 38.58 by BCSE::ABBOT "That would be telling" >>>

>    Next thing you know George Bush will use a Jerry song in his campaign.
>    
>    What song do you think he'd use?
    

	Money Honey

	/Ken    

I think George should use "Loser."

Or maybe "Spidergawd."

-dc

    
    	Waiting For a Miracle?
    
    

  Think.  

    Lonesome and a Long Way from Home...
    
    	either that or Gomorrha...  kind of appropriate as he Sodomizes the 
    public on the campaign trail...
    
    					da ve

    I picked up my copy of Infrared Roses today ($11.99 at Rockit - OK,
    it's cheaper at Newbury Comix but I'd rather support my favorite store
    and besides, I don't like the tacky pink neon and ugly smiley faces at
    Newbury).
    
    Anyone notice that when you fold the cardboard box, the title isn't on
    the outside edge? It's on the other side, what I would consider the
    inside edge (or right edge if you're looking at the cover). I'd rather
    have a plastic box anyhow. If they want to reduce waste, get rid of
    those stupid big boxes. It works in every other country.
    
    Scott
    

    Yeah, I did notice that about the labeling not being on the wide spine,
    as it is on OFTV.  But then again, before I got my two GD releases not
    in a jewel box, I flatout refused to purchase CDs not in a jewel box.
    Maybe I'm experiencing a personal paradigm shift?

    For the record (NPI, BTW) I can't stand the longbox either, and usually
    express my disdain for it by leaving it at the record store.

    Don

    I don't mind long boxes if they have nice artwork. I keep them and cut
    out the pictures. I used to put them on the ceiling at my old house,
    but I don't know what to do with them now. Still, I'd prefer just a
    simple old plastic box. Go to Lechmere and they have tons of classical
    cds just shrinkwrapped (not only cheap stuff either, although the
    Laserlights I got are really good) and I doubt they have any
    significant amount of thefts. I went to stores in London where
    everything was just in jewel boxes, and they had a huge amount of discs
    in a small space, like book shelves. It wasn't that hard to look at
    them either.
    
    Some of the tracks sound interesting, where they combined several
    spaces together and then ran them into a midi unit. Are the Dead the
    next "New Age" band?
    
    Scott
    

    RE: dead new age?

    Puh-lease!!  I liken new age music to sonic wallpaper. :-)  Most of it
    just doesn't take me the same places the boys (and especially IR and
    drums/space in general) take me.

    Don

Hey Don, 

Sonic Wallpaper!!!!  Ugh!   :^)   

Simple difference of opinion I thought I'd express - no flame intended :^)

Not all new age is of the Andreas V. type (although I enjoy Andreas at
times) -- Tangerine Dream is a bit more "harsh" than Andreas, Wind Machine, or
any Widham Hill collections...  Ever listen to Tangerine Dream or Shadowfax??  
Each of these has it's own tone or mood that takes me to different places, 
although not always the same place as the boys. But I like that - different
places for different moods...  

I'll be the first to agree the Dead's drum/space is one-of-a-kind and quite
unique, but what about "Blues for the Rainforest"??  I think this could be
likened to new age type stuff... IMHO (pls don't shoot ;^) I think this stuff
would be much more listenable than a full CD of drums/space... 

Glenn who's musical tastes also enters the abstract but hasn't heard IR yet... 
 

    RE: .69 (glenn)
    
    Yeah ... what he said ... ;^)
    
    ... Bobbb (owner of several Andreas, Shadowfax, and Scott Cossu albums)
    

	Merle Saunder's "Blues From the Rainforest" was #1 or in the
	top 5 or something in the 'new-age' category fwiw.

    Aw c'mon folks, I was just funnin' ya.  My music collection is quite
    diverse as well, going from small ensemble chamber music, and Gregorian
    chants to full scale orchestral; Jazz, R&B, Rap, New age, C&W, slash,
    comedy albums, old time r&r, dead, dead, more dead.  (Insert anything
    else you can think of here)  I'm the guy around here who sticks up for
    MC Hammer as well as Jerry Garcia.  Shadowfax is cool in my book!  I'll
    listen to everything.  Yes that's right, I'm a music slut!  

    Sorry, I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes!

    Don

    Tangerine Dream is great! Especially their old stuff, like "Journey
    Through A Burning Brain", from the Electronic Meditation album. I
    thinbk their best stuff is from the 70's, before they went totally
    electronic: Phaedra, Ricochet, Alpha Centauri, stuff like that.
    Another good one for strange background sounds is Brian Eno. Some of
    his instrumental albums like Discreet Music, Music for Airports, and
    the Fripp & Eno albums are really strange.
    
    I have probably as wide a range of music as Don does, from 12th century
    medieval music to jazz to classical to electronic. The only stuff I
    really don't care for are rap, modern heavy metal (although the
    classics like early Deep Purple is really cool, when they weren't doing
    Neil Diamond covers), and the really commercial c&w.
    
    One of my latest cds is Benny Goodman's 1938 Carnegie Hall concert. If
    you want some mean drums, listen to what Gene Krupa was doing then.
    
    Scott
    

    re: GD new age music
    
    If you want to hear Grateful Dead New Age music, take a listen
    to "Sage and Spirit" on the Blues for Allah album some time. :-)
    

    That's a real nice sound.  I got it on the vault live cd.  I LOVE
    sounds like that!  I didn't consider it new age, though.
    
    What groups play sounds like that?  I'll get some!
    
    dave

    Oooops, please replace or /on songs for sound in my last reply!

    Now here is a grate example of why I love this file.
    
    Chamber music, Gregorian Chants, Gene Krupa, Benny Goodman, Shadowfax,
    Tangerine Dream, Robert Fripp and the Grateful Dead, all in the course
    of three replies.
    
    Noplace else I can find this stuff!  BTW, I agree with youse guys
    (although it's gotta be a pretty strange mood to listen to Gregorian
    Chants).
    
    tim
    

    Starting next week, a new tape tree.  Benny Goodman does new age
    transcriptions of Gregorian chants, caught live at Red Rocks.  I'll
    start a tree topic later!  :-)

    Don

Hey Don,  No toes stepped on here! 
          No harm done! 
          No apologies needed!

'tis cool

Do we have a new age note?  I'd like to continue this digression....

    If we start a new age note, I propose we begin with the lyrics to the
    immortal Christine Lavin song, "Sensitive New Age Guys"...:-)
    
    tim
    

RE:         <<< Note 38.78 by FSDEV::DHENRY "Make good money, $5 a day" >>>
                   -< Laurie Anderson was the special guest >-

>    Starting next week, a new tape tree.  Benny Goodman does new age
>    transcriptions of Gregorian chants, caught live at Red Rocks.  I'll
>    start a tree topic later!  :-)

Don,

You fergot:  ...with special guests The Beach Boys on the Harpsichord


:-)

    Geez, you spoiled the surprise!  I wuz gonna wait 'til everyone got
    their tapes!

    Don

    I found out as I get older I like the Beach Boys more & more.  
    ESPECIALLY, those darn romantic ballads.  Man, what tear jerkers!
    
    dave

    HA!
    
    	Boris,.. you old softy you :-) :-)
    
    							/
    

    Yah, that tune, what was it?  Hang Ten on the Sloopy Surfer Coupe?
    Yeah that's the ticket, always gets me right (insert gesture of closed
    hand thumping chest) here.

    Don (who knows that that title has bits and pieces from other, non
    Beach Boys period songs, but played it up for the effect anyway)

    GRIEG ROOLZ!
    

    I still listen to Kiss once in a while whilst amoungst drinkin buddies
    too!!
    
    Boris

    I WANNA ROCKNROLL ALL NIGHT!

    AND PARTY EVERY DAY!

    re KISS
    
    	Get a clue man
    
    							/
    
    PS :-)
    

    Hey, I was young once too, ya know!
    
    I liked the dead when I started getting serious about.....I don't know
    what, maybe music?  :^)
    
    dave

re:   <<< Note 38.90 by SPOCK::IRONS "Setting the Standard for Deadcellence" >>>

   >Hey, I was young once too, ya know!
    
    Me too, but when I was a teeny-bopper I liked the Grateful Dead. :-)

    I was young once as well.....and when I was a young lad I liked
    Quicksilver as well.....(and I'll never admit it anywhere else
    I liked Herb Albert and the TJB,as well as The Baja Marimba Band)
    
    eclectic reeky

    
    Hey, I loved Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass!!!
    
    Dave

    phew...now i'm not alone...sure woulda liked to help that girl with
    some of the whipprd cream...and other delites.
    
    rich

	Too bad Jim isn't here for this discussion huh Ken?  :-)

	    	;^) ;^) Jim, I miss ya'!!!  ;^) ;^)

    Since it's time for true confessions, I got a new-used turntable this
    past weekend and actually listened to an album I had back in the far
    far reaches of the stack:
    
    Kiki Dee!

    Hope you folks don't think any less of me (as if that's at all
    possible.)

    Don

re:  <<< Note 38.95 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "child of countless dreams" >>>

>	Too bad Jim isn't here for this discussion huh Ken?  :-)

Speaking of Jim...maybe we can go somewhere that serves a good brussels
sprout dish next Monday 8-), and we'll save the leftovers to give to
Phyllis when she comes out for New Years's 8->.

peace,
t!ng

    Hey...Glenn Miller is great.(not that i'm defending jim's position)
    didn't his band do the original version of "Sing,Sing,Sing"...
    with a little imagination the boyz could do this instumental...
    with Branford on the sax.
    
    rich

    Benny Goodman beats the pants off Glenn Miller anyday!!!  :^)
    
    				da ve_who_liked_the_album_cover_for_
    				"whipped cream and other delights" too_

    Benny Goodman did the original "Sing Sing Sing". I think it was written
    by some latin musician but they really jazzed it up.
    
    Glenn Miller's big hits were "In The Mood", "Pennsylvania 6-5000",
    "String of Pearls", "Moonlight Serenade", etc. Trumpet player. Benny
    Goodman played clarinet.
    
    How do I know all this? Glenn Miller is my father's all-time favorite
    musician, and that stuff is about as implanted in my brain as Bugs
    Bunny cartoons. Also, Benny Goodman's Carnegia Hall jazz concert was
    his most prized album.
    
    BTW, anyone watch the Ed Sullivan special last night? They had a little
    bit with Gene Krupa. Also glad to see that Senor Wences is still alive.
    That guy must be about 100 years old now. I just wished they ended with
    Topo Gigio.
    
    Scott
    

    mebe it was benny goodman who did "sing,sing,sing".
    
    rich
    
    bennyheads???

    Well,.. along the lines of true confessions I guess,... I actually
    went to see Benny Goodman. He was intense.
    
    I guess I could make a lot of other true confessions of things that
    I've done that maybe your average (whats that?) deadhead doesn't
    do,.. but I am proud to say that none of them are "I saw KISS" or 
    "I bought a KISS album" or anything like that...
    
    		:-)
    
    							/pullin_boris'_leg
    							tryin_to_see_if_he's
    							_really_mellowed_as
    							_much_as_he_says
    

I think I won a KISS album through one of those radio "If you're caller #.."
contests.  I used to dial every time I hear one of those, but I've only
gotten through once.  I have no idea what I did with it.

peace,
t!ng

Speaking of Herb and the TBB, I got really upset with my father when
I musically "grew-up". I remembered that my father had a TON of HA's
albums, so I went to try to con him out of them, and they were GONE!

  They could possibly still be in the house somewhere, but I doubt if 
they are in good condition. I always loved WCAOD.

  Maybe on turkey day when we stop in at folks I'll rummage around 
to see if I can find them, but I'd still have to get my turntable
fixed 8-(.

 Does NEone remember Al Ciaola (sp?) ? 8-)

Shawn

    
    Yes, Glenn Miller played Trombone.  But he is the arranger who really
    created that classic saxophone/clarinet sound (with the clarinet
    playing the lead) that is so much a trademark of the swing era.
    
    One thing I miss at times is playing in a jazz band.....in high school
    I played in some pretty good jazz bands (2nd trumpet player).  Probably
    the hottest tune we ever did was "Sing, Sing Sing."  We ripped on it!!!
    
    Dave

    yep, Glenn Miller did play trombone...
    
    one of the neatest albums i ever had in my collection was a
    "collectors" edition of Benny Goodman stuff (vinyl precursor of todays
    "box set" :^) that belongs to my mom...  i believe i gave it back to
    her some time ago...  i want to try and get it back from her again...
    it was given to her as a gift in the late 40's early 50's and was still
    in reasonably good shape as recently as 4-5 years ago...  wonder what
    it would be worth today?
    
    					da ve

    For the record,.. I'm also hip on Herb Alpbert (sp?)..
    
    My folks dug him and I grew up listening to him. His recent stuff
    was even more to my liking. Very versatile on that horn.
    
    I always kid my folks because now all they listen to is both kinds
    of music,.. country and western. Somewhere back in the good old days
    they did listen to jazzier stuff,.. maybe thats where I got that
    influence...
    
    Hey Hogan,.. Can you still play the horn? Lets do a jazz gig :-)
    
    							/
    

	back to the topic (sort of!)...I just got the "new" 
	Jerry Garcia and David Grisman recording...it is EXCELLENT...
	this is the kind of music -I- really love (and would have 
	preferred to hear live instead of the "relaxed" Jerry Garcia Band.)

	Debess

    Yeah, that's right, Glenn played trombone. I was thinking trombone but
    typed trumpet (I always get them confused).
    
    Scott
    

    For all you trombone fans there is a guy named Ray Anderson who is a
    great "young" trombone player with a New Orlean flair...he plays on 
    an album with a sax player named Benny Wallace (the name escapes me)
    and they cook..one tune is called ST. Exposito...great stuff they
    both played at one of the Great Woods Jazz/Blues thingys.
    
    rich

    
    I definitely would not consider it an embarassment to have had the chance 
    to actually SEE Benny Goodman in concert.  The man was a genious.
    
    Now, when it comes to embarassing, I've got one or two that might even
    be considered worse then "I saw KISS", like "I saw Black Sabbath", (in
    1969, as an opening act for Leslie West and Mountain)...but that's no
    excuse. :-)
    
    tim
    

HEY!!!  What's all this about being embarrassed?  I'm not embarrassed at
once having a (HUGE!) crush on Andy Gibb!!  Really, I'm not......

:-)

>       <<< Note 38.114 by NOPROB::JOLLIMORE "Dancing Madly Backwards" >>>
>                                    -< :-\ >-
>
>	I was THROWN OUT of an Ozzie Osborn concert!
    
    Now, that can't be easily done!  What happened, did you forget to bite
    the head off of a bat on the way in the door? :-)
    
    Lisa, my sister actually went to see Bobby Sherman, but she was just a
    kid at the time. Then again, so was he! ;-)
    
    
    

Okay, if it's confession time -- worse than "I bought a KISS album, in my
earlier days I had every KISS album there was, I had a Bay City Rollers album,
a Donnie and Marie Osmond, Partridge Family, and and let's not forget Barry
Manilow! Then I phased into Led Zep, Peter Framptom, Rush, Lynyrd Skynyrd, 

 also lotsa 45's ...  The NIght Chicago Died, Billy Don't Be a Hero,
Kung-fu Fighting :^), Philidelphia Freedom, Spiders and Snakes, etccccccc

 My second concert was Linda Rondstadt :^)

I feel better now ;^)

Glenn

    Hey, Philadelphia Freedom wasn't a bad single - the flip side saved it.
    Elton John and John Lennon live.
    
    Scott
    

    Yo hedz!
    
    	I was only yankin' ole Boris' chain about Kiss.. I didn't mean
    to like make KISS the most "anit-dead" band around...
    	I mean hell,. the real most anti-dead band has got to be,.. um
    er,... Glen Miller? Benny Goodman? I dunno!!! :-)
    
    							/
    

    I bought a 45 by Duke Baxter called "Everyone Loves Matilda"...
    
    rich

    I think you'd have to pick someone unmusical, undanceable and unmoving
    to be the anti-Dead.  How 'bout the Dead Kennedys?

    Don (who actually has not 1, not 2, but 3 DK albums, and one 12" single)

	Excuse me...

	This is the topic for Commercial Dead Music, not digressions on
	KISS and Benny Goodman.

	Bob_moderator_feeling_compulsively_organized

take it to note 168 so I know what to buy when I feel like
buying.

guilty as anyone!
:)
bob

    
    > Speaking of Jim...maybe we can go somewhere that serves a good brussels
    > sprout dish next Monday 8-), and we'll save the leftovers to give to
    > Phyllis when she comes out for New Years's 8->.
    
    I heard that! :-)
    
    I'm too busy to read notes for a couple of days, and when I do get in, 
    there's about 75 new replies in the commercial dead topic and NONE of 
    them have anything to do with commercial dead!  Gotta love this
    notesfile! :-)
    
    

    OK, since this is the commercial Dead music note, does anyone know if
    the Dead have recorded any music for commercials? My foggy memory says
    they did one for Levi's.  Would a commercial for the resurrected
    Twilight Zone count?
    
    Scott
    

    They did a Ben & Jerry's commercial not too long ago with the boyz
    doing Uncle John's Band in the background.
    
    ... Bob
    

re: <<< Note 38.125 by BCSE::ABBOT >>>

    >OK, since this is the commercial Dead music note, does anyone know if
    >the Dead have recorded any music for commercials? My foggy memory says
    >they did one for Levi's.  
    
    They did several. Some back in '67 (I think) for radio and one for
    television in 1991 for Levi's Button Fly's (tm). The latter is not
    the whole band just Jerry and Vince (and maybe Bobby).
    
    - Gerry

re:                      <<< Note 38.127 by SA1794::GLADUG >>>

>    They did several. Some back in '67 (I think) for radio and one for
>    television in 1991 for Levi's Button Fly's (tm). The latter is not
>    the whole band just Jerry and Vince (and maybe Bobby).

I just saw this commercial for the first time, and I thought it sounded like
Jerry.  I remember hearing a bass guitar, not that I thought it was Phil (tho
Jerry was pretty obvious).  Coulda been Vince playing bass notes.

adam

    I saw one over the weekend for levis..the one with guys throwin fish
    around...when you listen to it all of a sudden you say hey thats 
    jerry on guitar.
    fwiw
    rich

    >I saw one over the weekend for levis..the one with guys throwin fish
    >around...when you listen to it all of a sudden you say hey thats 
    >jerry on guitar.
    
I saw that while I had the TV on, but I had the volume down listening to a tape 
so I didn't hear the soundtrack.  I did see the cameo of Spike Lee in it 
though, real quick for like less than a second.

Scott

    Spike Lee is the one making the spots (if that hadn't been brought up
    yet)....
    
    Chris
    

    Hey, I have a question that is actually about Commercial Dead Music.
    
    I have been considering buying the 2-CD live set of Steal Your Face,
    Vol.1&2, recorded in '75.  Problem is, I've never heard anyone talk
    about it.  Is it terrific, real good, just OK, or what?  (I have other
    live commercial releases and some tapes [thanks to Mr. Bailey], but
    I don't know anything about this one.)
    
    While I'm at it, here's another question for general discussion:  
    
    What's your all-time favorite commercial Dead release (live and/or
    studio)?
    
    A couple of months ago, Jerry said (in the Rolling Stone interview)
    that his favorite studio album was Mars Hotel.  What do you think?
    
    
    Bud 
    (whose Dead collection is suddenly taking on a life of its own)
    

    re .-1
    
    Well, I've heard it called "Steal Your Money."  :^)  I haven't heard
    the whole thing, but the LPs had very poor sound quality (may have been
    fixed for CD), and the performances weren't "definitive" versions.  I
    was surprised it was released on CD at all, but the money machine rolls
    on . . .  
    
    I'd rate the live releases as follows:
    
    Live/Dead -- Dated, but still the best.  Side 4 will drive those
    unwanted guests home.
    
    Without A Net -- Frankie does make it for this great live set.
    
    Europe '72 -- Fine, but the performances are a bit too laid back.
    
    Dead Set/Reckoning (aka For The Faithful) -- The band at a low point. 
    Reckoning is worth owning 'cause it's acoustic, but Dead Set is poorly
    selected, haphazard, and limp.
    
    Steal Your Face -- Haven't heard it, or anything good about it.
    
    How many did I forget?
    
    Jamie

While I wouldn't be so negative as to call it "Steal Your Money" as Mr. 
Ide did :) I would agree with him that there are other disks where your
money would be better spent.  To me SYF is just a bunch of live songs rolled
into 2 disks and the "feeling" of the live show is lost.  The sound quality of 
the CD is not impressive considering what "they" can do with old tapes and new
technology.

I remember that after I bought it I was disappointed.

As for live stuff - I like:
			 Without A Net 
			 Live/Dead 
			 Reckoning 
			 Europe '72

Steal your money :) I guess "they" did!
haha!
bob

    re:      <<< Note 38.134 by LANDO::HAPGOOD "now we play for life" >>>

    >While I wouldn't be so negative as to call it "Steal Your Money" as
    >Mr. Ide did :)
    
    I can't take credit for being that clever, I read it somewhere.
    
    >To me SYF is just a bunch of live songs rolled into 2 disks and the
    >"feeling" of the live show is lost.  
    
    That's how I feel about Dead Set.
    
    >The sound quality of  the CD is not impressive considering what "they"
    >can do with old tapes and new technology.
    
    My impression was that it was botched from the beginning and rushed out
    the door.  Phil had something to do with it and has said that he'd like
    to disown it.  I don't know if they could have improved it for CD. 
    Maybe they did!
    
    As for the studio releases, I like "Wake of the Flood" a lot, though it
    might just define laid-back.  "American Beauty" and "Workingman's Dead"
    are the classic country-rockers. The only real clinker is "Skeletons
    From the Closet," a poorly programmed greatest hits package (the Dead's
    music doesn't lend itself to hits compilations anyway, and "Rosemary"??
    -- that was a top ten hit, right??  :^)).
    
    Jamie

There's parts of SYF that I like, but for the most part its not their best..
The CD sound quality is good, though not spectacular.  I haven't heard the
vinyl version in years and don't remember much about it.


I love Reckoning, Europe 72 and Without a Net, all very worth owning..and Live
Dead of course.  As far as studio albums I love Wake of the Flood, American 
Beauty, Workingman's and (gasp!) In the Dark..each of their studio efforts have
their high points for me however.





Jim

Live: I like Without a net best. Steal Your Face is definitely the weakest of
the major live albums. Live Dead/Dead Set/Europe 72 and REckoning all have great
moments, but none of them really come close to a live show. All of them have 
both superb and mediocre moments.

Studio - I like Built to Last, wake of The Flood, and American Beauty as their
best studio efforts. 

Yeah I agree with you about Dead Set being the same as SYF although they 
made an attempt to keep that live feel a bit more than SYF. (like they include 
drums and a  teeny bit of space (the jerry mosquito guitar in to Fire)....
but only an attempt (it must be tough hacking apart a series of shows and
trying to make a live lp).

I like most all of their studio stuff (yes, even Built To Last and TOG)
but am partial to Wake of the Flood (ditto!!), Blues for Allah and
Workingman's Dead.

Wake of the Flood is my fave though....
seeyalll!
bob

My favorite is Europe 72.....lots of good tunes, and i love the 'sound' that
the boyz had at that point in time.  But.....I understand that they dubbed
the vocals for that album and Skull&Roses......which wasn't a bad idea,
actually, because these albums, more than being just 'live' albums, actually
contain the only releases of tunes never released from the studio, like
'Jack Straw', 'Tennessee Jed', 'Brown-Eyed Woman', 'Bertha'.....etc...
On a few tunes, like Tennessee Jed, you can faintly hear the original vocal
tracks in the background, probably bleeding into the instrument microphones.

Anyway, sorry to digress.....

Reckoning is also a favorite.....its really good because its acoustic, and
I really like the laid-back feel of it.  Its got some grate jams on it, and
a really really cool flowing Birdsong!
    
Like a few have said, Live Dead is also incredible!!  And you can find
better live albums than 'Steal your Face.'

I think that Mars Hotel and American Beauty are great studio albums.....
'Scarlet Begonias', 'China Doll', and 'Unbroken Chain' are excellently done
studio takes, though not containing long extended jams, they all have a
great feel......American Beauty is just a classic, to me its a MUST HAVE for
the collection.....the definitive version of 'Ripple', its absolutely
beautiful and could not be improved on IMO.  'Wake of the Flood' is also
really good (in fact, I think they did their best studio work from 1970-1975),
though I find myself listening to side two almost all the time......
"Eyes of the World" is excellent, and the entire "Weather Report Suite."

Hogan

    When you refer to "Live Dead," are you referring to the double album
    set with Bertha, Mama Tried, etc.?  Or is there another "Live Dead" 
    release?

Live - Reckoning 
       Live Dead
       W/o a net
       Europe 72
       
IMNSHO - Dead Set and SYF are not even worth having - better off with tapes...
 
Studio (geez long time since I thought about these :^/)
       - Go to Heaven (I really miss Brent...)
         Working Man's
         Terrapin Station
         American Beauty
         Mars/Wake
         Blues
         Bertha (What's the name of this one again???  
                 You know- Deadheads Unite) 


I wouldn't bother with Skeleton's or WALSTIB -- better off getting all the
other recordings and forgeting about the "best of" ones... ;^) 

Enjoy--'

Glenn

re:                     <<< Note 38.140 by PUFFIN::SAMILJAN >>>
                            -< Which "Live Dead?" >-

>>    When you refer to "Live Dead," are you referring to the double album
>>    set with Bertha, Mama Tried, etc.?  Or is there another "Live Dead" 
>>    release?

"Live Dead" -- has red cover with female ghost apparition rising from a coffin
holding a banner that says Live Dead on it.. 

I believe the Bertha, Mama Tried one is known as "Skull and Roses", and I
think I mistakenly put it in my studio list vs the live list (this is the one I
wasn't sure of the name?)   

Time to dig out the LP's again :^)

Enjoy--'

Glenn

    I believe the "official" name of skull&roses is _Grateful Dead_
    (same as the first album).  I can dig out catalog numbers if
    anybody needs them...
    
    /bruce
    
    	

 I can't believe no has mentioned Bears Choice. 

 I love this one! Doesn't exactly have the live feel to it, but has some
 real nice acoustic, and rockers.


shawn    	

RE:            <<< Note 38.143 by ZENDIA::LARU "Goin' to Graceland" >>>

   > I believe the "official" name of skull&roses is _Grateful Dead_
   > (same as the first album).  I can dig out catalog numbers if
   > anybody needs them...
    
    I think that's right..originally the Dead wanted to call it Skull Fu*k but
    alas the record company folks put the keboshes on that endeavor.



    The only thing I really like about Dead Set is Brokedown Palace..Many a 
    night I've ended an evening of partying listening to this version...





    Listen to the river sing sweet songs....




 Jim    
    	

    I thought it was Steal Your Face that was originally dubbed
    SkullF*ck???
    
    						/
    

RE     <<< Note 38.146 by STAR::SALKEWICZ "It missed... therefore, I am " >>>
  
  >               -< are my brain cells discombobulated again? >-

  

        Yes.   :^)


>  I thought it was Steal Your Face that was originally dubbed
>    SkullF*ck???
 


 I'm 99.999999999% sure  it was Skull and Roses.





 Jim    

    
    And i'm .000000001% sure, so Jim and I are 100% sure that they wanted
    to call Skull & Roses "Skull fu*k"
    
    Oh yeah, "Bear's choice" is also an awecim album!! :^)
    
    My favorite acoustic Dead!
    
    Hogan

Not only did folks forget Bears Choice, but what about One From the Vaults?

Yow!

My favorites (live):

	Live/Dead
	Bear's Choice
	OFTV
	Reckoning
	Europe '72
	Infrared Roses - REALLY get rid of those pesky guests :-)

Studio:

	Wake of the Flood
	Mars Hotel
	American Reality (sic)
	Workingman's
	Reflections (so it's a Jerry disk...the whole band is on alot of it!)
	Ace (so it's a Bobby disk...the whole band is on most of it!)

	~dave

Yeah, thanks to a Christmas gift from a neat friend I have the CD of 
Wake of the Flood and I'd have to say that its at the top o' the heap of
my favorite studio albums.







Jim

    favorite live??  probably Europe '72 although One from the Vaults
    sounds real nice...  hard telling though...  i'd probably pick some
    tasty tapes over each of them...
    
    favortie studio???  Terrapin Station...  not a doubt in my pointy
    little head! :^)
    
    					da ve

    I would have to agree that "One from the Vault" is the best because it 
    is from one show and that intro to Help on the Way blows you right out
    of your chair.  
    
    It all depends on what "era" of the dead you are interested in.
    if your what the Pig Pen era then go for "Europe '72" - He's
    Gone->Truckin'->Prelude (or epologue??) is great.  If you are
    interested in Brent go for "Without a Net".  And if you want the 
    Keith/Donna era go for "One From the Vault".  
    
    I agree with da ve, there are tapes that I would pick over each of
    them.  I also agree with Terrapin as best Studio - to bad they don't
    try the post Terrapin (return to Terrapin etc..) live.
    
    :-)
    Scott g

re: fave dead live CD

Having played just about all the ones that have been mentioned on my stereo,
I reckon that "1 from the Vault" and "W/O a net" are the finest, SOUND quality
wise.  These CDs are probably the best sounding CDs in my collection of 150+.
The bass is deep, the highs are clear, hiss is nearly non-existent, etc.
just mahvelous sounding pieces of music ...

    Don't forget... the Dead have the next one from the vault due shortly.
    Copies of the disc are already out amongst the privileged few.

    >Don't forget... the Dead have the next one from the vault due shortly.
    >Copies of the disc are already out amongst the privileged few.

Psyched!  Do you know which show Ger?  I recall that the venue and year were 
mentioned (venue I can't remember, year was '69 I think), but I don't know if 
the exact date was mentioned.

Scott

    Last I heard it was supposed to be 2/18/71. that was a long time ago
    though and I believe that has since been refuted. 

I'm already drooling....

re-.1 

...for a minute, I thought you were wearing a tie :-)...

    i am on the phone right now with Jody Fortier...  anyone remember him??
    he sez hello!!!
    
    he also asks if anyone knows which of the dead's commercial releases
    were originally put out on Grateful Dead Records...  any info on GD
    Records (when started, when defunct, why? etc) would also be of
    interest...
    
    what do you say out there???
    
    						da ve

    tell him to buy a Deadbase, DAMMIT! :-) :-) :-) It's all in there.
    Ihor's discography covers it as well and there should be a copy
    in here but there isn't. I'll get Ihor's most recent discography
    and post it.
    
    OTTOMH...Wake of the Flood, Mars Hotel and Blues for Allah were the
    Dead albums. I think there were also 2 Hunters, 1-2 Garcias, a 
    Kingfish or two and a Keith 'n Donna. Prob'ly way off the make
    (read yer own damn deadbase, ger! :-)
    

    :^)  i have one at the house (DBIII i think) and i figured it was in
    there, but since i wasn't sure i figured, why not ask here and now!
    after all, it doesn't hurt to discuss some dead related stuff amidst
    all this other "werld we live in" non-dead topics! :^) :^) :^)
    
    if he stops in tonight, we'll look it up...
    
    					da ve

    I still don't know the date of "vol. 2-One From the Vault", but I did
    just order it.  It's available on the new releases section of the
    Noteworthy compact disc catalog.  If anyone is interested in this mail
    order company call 1-800-648-7972.  Their prices are excellent!!
    ($14.74 for the 2 disc set)

    Tommorow is still the rumored release date of OFTVII.  Anyone hear news
    to the contrary or will I see you all at Rockit Records?
    
    Scott
    

 Lechemere ran an ad yesterday with a bunch of CDs on sale, which included
One From the Vault (I assume it was the new one cuz the cover looked different
than the first)..so perhaps tomorrow is the day.



Jum


PS...they are having a sale but can't remember the prices.

    Lechmere has a selected artist sale - most of the big selling names
    like the Dead, Beatles, Led Zep, the Who, Pink Floyd, Peter Gabriel,
    etc.  All cds by them are on sale - one that's normally $14.99 is
    10.98, 11.99 are 8.98, etc.
    
    Scott
    

    My local record store claims the new release date is May 12,1992.

	Well, I'm gonna be at Tower Records tomorrow (Friday 5/1).  I'll 
letcha all know what the deal gone down is.

	Josh

From: NYC.JAG@hkgcn.compuserve.com
Subject: Two From the Vault
Reply-To: NYC.JAG@hkgcn.compuserve.com
Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 16:06:04 GMT

Just called GD Merchandising. They said that they will start shipping TWO FROM
THE VAULT on Monday, May 4. All orders are being sent by first-class mail on a
first-ordered, first-shipped basis. The first ordering date was April 6. The
lady at GDM went on to tell me that if you order now the GDM, you will still
get it about a week before it hits the streets on May 19.  The release date is
May 19, not MAy 12 as was previously reported. 

The toll-free order number is 1-800-cal-dead

Now you know.

Jeff at NYC.JAG@HKGCN.compuserve.com


------------------------------

What's GDM's price?  It may make good financial sense to wait a couple weeks 
for general release.

    GDM is asking $16.00. You'll probably do better in a store. You'll
    probably see them in the store before GDM mails them out anyways.
    That is, by the time you mail your order and they mail it back, 
    TFTV will be in the stores. GDM is noted for taking their time to 
    fill orders. 
    
    - Gerry

is the title "Two From The Vault" or "One From The Vault [Vol.] 2" ?

- rich

btw, i forget the exact price listed in Noteworthy, but I think it was $14 and
some cents

    The flyer they sent out with the Dead tix sez "Two From the Vault".
    
    ... Bobbb
    

    It's in the Noteworthy catalog as One From The Vault Vol. 2 but they've
    been known for inaccurate titles.  I'd go with the TFTV title since
    it's two shows.  Do we get 3 shows next time?
    
    Scott
    

>    it's two shows

what shows?  what are the setlists?

- rich

>what shows?  what are the setlists?

See 39.108

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Hey now--

It finally is here, GDM just sent me my Two From the Vault.

Here is the set list:

Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl
Dark Star
Saint Stephen
The Eleven
Death Don't Have no Mercy
The Other One
New Potato Caboose
Turn on Your Lovelight
Morning Dew.

What a happy day :)

There is a  nice tribut to Pigpen in the inside.

Hope this gets in the stores before May 12 so everyone else can
enjoy.

Sorry haven't had a chance to listen to it, I'm at work.

See ya all this summer

chris



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	It lives!  Two From the Vault is now available here in
Boulder.  (I got my copy yesterday at a place called CD Cellar.)

Recorded August 23-24, 1968.  The line-up:   

   CD 1
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl  	(15:59)
Dark Star 				(11:20)
Saint Stephen 				 (4:40)
The Eleven 				(14:27)
Death Don't Have No Mercy 		 (8:23)

   CD 2
The Other One 				(15:40)
New Potato Caboose 			(14:16)
Turn On Your Lovelight 			(17:13)
(Walk Me Out In The) Morning Dew 	 (7:13)

Wow!  Sound is great, but boy has the sound changed in 24 years!
Morning Dew does end abruptly, but not too bad - not in the middle of
a verse.

-JT

 I tell ya, listening to TFTV through headphones is quite an experience...




 Jum

    I don't know if this has been discussed in here before, but ...
    
    Occasionally I see a CD in the Dead bins at Strawberries called
    "Hooterroll" with Garcia and Howard Wales (?). What kind of music
    is this? Is it worth buying?
    
    thanks - Dave

    Hooterroll.  Ah, kind of jazzy spacey stuff.  All instrumental.
    Can't quite remember anything off it at the moment.  I've listened
    to it a few times.  If you want, I'll listen again over the weekend
    and see if I can come up with a more coherent response ;-)
    
    PeterT
    

re                      <<< Note 38.180 by SMURF::PETERT >>>
                       -< ah, where's my brain today... >-

>    Hooterroll.  Ah, kind of jazzy spacey stuff.  All instrumental.


This is a killer album, although I don't have it !  an x-roommate of mine
had it and i listened to it many times.  lots of guitar (jerry) in it, as
i recall.

What JC said.  If you like spacey fusion like music with some excellent Jerry
guitar, get it.

Chuck

    Due to the storm taking control of my electricity and other such
    problems, I never even thought of listening to Hooterroll this weekend.
    But go buy it anyway ;-)
    
    PeterT
    

    okay, Hooterroll is my Christmas present to myself!
    
    is it parsed like hooter-roll? some of my friends from
    the midwest use 'hooter' to describe the rolled oat-bran
    snacks that some people in this conference like.

re        <<< Note 38.184 by JURAN::DCLARK "cherish well your thoughts" >>>

>    okay, Hooterroll is my Christmas present to myself!
 
sounds good!  I got myself 2 tires and a cd player :-)  
   
>    is it parsed like hooter-roll? some of my friends from
>    the midwest use 'hooter' to describe the rolled oat-bran
>    snacks that some people in this conference like.

i've often heard this term used precisely as you mention.

    "Give a Hoot Don't Pollute"!!!
    
    
    :^)

    re: hooter
    
    yep, that what us midwesterners call it.  Especially in North Dakota - 
    those farm kids...sigh...what are ya gonna do with them.
    
    :-) :-) :-) 
    Scott G

Well, having nearly grown up in the pseudo-south, I can tell ya that down
thar the term "hooter" is usually used in its plural form: "hooters."  And
ya don't smoke 'em!

They've even got bars called "Hooters," and they ain't famous for their oat
bran neither!

;-)

- jeff-who-mostly-'grew-up'-in-Sinsinattee

    re .188 and .187
    
    having "grown up" all over the world, Ive used the term to refer to
    BOTH items, err, i mean both meanings....we have a "Hooters" bar here
    too......
    
    rfb

    re: rfb
    
    >having "grown up" all over the world, Ive used the term to refer to
    >BOTH items, err, i mean both meanings.
    
    Ha, you could get in trouble that way :-) ;-)
    
    :-)
    Scott G

Question:

_Did_ or _did_not_ Garcia play the pedal steel on the Mar's Hotel's
"Pride of Cucamonga"?

Something in the back of my mind is telling me that he _did_not_.  That I
read this somewhere, possible an article in The Golden Road or some such.
Debunking popular myths and all that.

There is no regular lead guitar track on PoC, at least that I can hear.
The lead is played by the pedal steel.   This all makes the Mars Hotel
_outtakes_ version of PoC all the more sweeter, cause the (rock_crit_ese here:)
bouncy, ebuilient lead guitar on it _is_ definitly Garcia!

(Say, didn't Bill Graham introduce Weir as "ebuilient" on 12-5-71 ? or was
that on the 1975 OfTV show?)

Josh

><<< Note 38.191 by PONDA::WEDOIT::BELKIN "the slow one now will later be fast" >>>
>                 -< coulda been P. Sears, or a NPRS member... >-
>
>(Say, didn't Bill Graham introduce Weir as "ebuilient" on 12-5-71 ? or was
>
>Josh


Spelling lesson...  ebullient - Boiling, bubbling, marked by ebullience.

Ebullience - The quality of expressing fellings or ideas in an 
enthusiastic and lively manner. (i.e. Perky:-))

Geoff 

re       <<< Note 38.192 by SALES::GKELLER "be alert, we need more lerts" >>>

>Ebullience - The quality of expressing fellings or ideas in an 

Ya know, I even looked this werd up in the dikshunary to spel it rite!  
Reeley!

 - Josh

    HA!!!  Bobby's "perky"!!  :^)  :^)  :^)  maybe it's just cuz it's
    friday, but for some reason, i find that an amusing adjective
    for our li'l rock star this morning...  :^)
    
    					da ve

Bobby's perky but sparky is ebullient:-)

Geoff_wishing_chris_and_sparky_the_best_in_their_upcoming_wedding_and_ongoing_
life_together_...

    hey folks!
     
    anyone acquired a copy of the new darkstar compilation Grey
    Folded:Transitive Axis disc?  i think the selections were chosen and
    mixed by some dude named John Oswald.  how is it?  did you have to get it 
    mail order (the # is 1-800-263-4020) or is it available in stores?
    
    p.s. in case you missed it (and i sure did the first time around) Grey
    Folded is supposed to be a play on the name 'Grateful Dead'...say it.
     
    ha ha very funny mr. oswald...
     
    /scott
    

    
    are you making that up ?
    

    no, i'm not making it up...i read about it on rec.music.gdead.
     
    it's been reviewed in some canadain papers...they gave it a good
    review...apparently he chose sections of different darkstars and
    blended them into one 55 minute piece...it comes in a double cd case
    with the second half empty.  the next one will be out early next year.
    

    i read about it in the update that GD merchandizing sends out - i
    ordered it thru the mail - sounded as if that was the only way it was
    available

    I called the 800 number in Relix.  20 bucks for a CD plus 5 for
    shipping and handling is too much.
    
    	dave
    

    a friend said they were listening to a new cd release of an autzen
    stadium show that is in a 3 cd box set.....anybody heard
    about this? i guess it is somewheres in the ballpark of 40 bucks...
    

    sounds more like a bootleg to me then a real release

    that is what i said to them and they said no it was really a cd set..
    maybe sumthin from one of those bootlegging operations?
     i have seen order forms for  conventions and some places in europe..
    amsterdam etc....that sell bootleg cd's....anyways if it is out
    I WANT IT!!!!!!!

  <<< Note 38.201 by SALEM::LEBLANC "ONE in 10,000 that come fer the SHOW" >>>
>                     -< More live releases in the works? >-

>    a friend said they were listening to a new cd release of an autzen
>    stadium show that is in a 3 cd box set.....anybody heard
>    about this? i guess it is somewheres in the ballpark of 40 bucks...
    
Yea,  saw it in a record store in Nashua w/ a name of something like
"Beyond Oregon" or some such.....There's a lot of those surfacing lately
and from what I've been told they are mostly Italian "imports" where they 
don't recognize laws governing such practices.

bob

ps. I think it was bit (quite) more than 40.

    
    sounds like folks are taking quality SBD's putting them on CD and
    selling them. this is a no-no. if this gets out of hand I can see the
    Dead putting a stop to taping shows..
    
    Don

>>    a friend said they were listening to a new cd release of an autzen
>>    stadium show that is in a 3 cd box set.....anybody heard
>>    about this? i guess it is somewheres in the ballpark of 40 bucks...
>    
> Yea,  saw it in a record store in Nashua w/ a name of something like
> "Beyond Oregon" or some such.....There's a lot of those surfacing lately
    
    Yea, I recently saw several of these in Rocket Records in Nashua.  The
    price alone was enough to make me not spend any time at all thinking
    about buying them.  Major rip off.
    
    tms
    

    >>if this gets out of hand I can see the Dead putting a stop to taping
    
    Could be part of the reason Cutler's put an end to SBD patches.

    bob
    you were right.jussssssst a bit more than 40..how does 80 BUCKS SOUND
    FER A 3CD SET??? what a rip-off
    and i was corrected by the store owner for referring to it as a
    bootlegged bootleg......
    scary
    chris

>    and i was corrected by the store owner for referring to it as a
>    bootlegged bootleg......

Yeah, right!  Someone made a sanctioned tape of a show.  This is done all
the time.  However, they then turned to a country that does not have
the same copyright laws as the US and turned it into a profit making
deal which is explicitly NOT sanctioned.  I'm sure, legally, they are
able to sell it without the same fear of it being confiscated as a 
bootleg.  However, I'd be extremely surprised if the band gave it their
blessing or they recieve any profit from its sale.  Which still speaks,
BOOTLEG, to my mind.

PeterT

BEWARE "IMPORT" BOOTLEGS...

	The quality of these pressings, even CD's, is typically far below
that you can get via free trades with members of this conference. Expect 
them to be copies of hissy Audience tapes...

    Well here is something we have been waiting for !!! someone must have
    leaked out our ideas of how many minutes of Dark Star have been played
    live in concert......
    
    Recording engineer John Oswald has done the weirdest thing to the song
    Dark Star (well not that weird) he has taken over 40 hours (2400 mins
    in dechead timing) from 100 shows from the years 1969 to 1993 and cut 
    and spliced it into a 60 minute CD !!! 
    
    yeah a 60 minute Dark Star, Cool !!!
    
    Grayfolded, Part One: Transitive Axis is an hour long CD that sounds
    like a single preformance of Dark Star. you can get you copy by calling
    1-800263-4020, total cost is $28.75 (that includes shipping and
    handling) Canadian (minus the @30% difference to US$$$) comes to @ 20
    bucks !!!! you might wanna call around to some stores in you area as it
    has been shipped to some record stores....
    
    oh and if 60 minutes was not enough, part two Grayfolded, Part Two:
    Mirror Ashes will be coming along shortly !
    
    there is a nice wrte-up in the Worcester T&G Sunday Datebook (Sept. 25,
    1994)
    
    
    Chris
    
    (any typo's due to a noise dial-up line)
    
    

re     <<< Note 38.211 by SLOHAN::FIELDS "Ain't gonna worry my life anymore" >>>

>    bucks !!!! you might wanna call around to some stores in you area as it
>    has been shipped to some record stores....

Really?  Any idea what stores?  How about Tower Records?  I don't think I've
seen any mention of Greyfolded shipping to record stores in rec.music.grateful.

Josh

    nope, that what the write up said so your mileage may vary...or as New
    England Telephone says, call 1st DAMN IT ! :')

    It's available at Tower Records in San Jose.  :-)
    
    -jer

    Its at Tower in Burlinton Mass too...
    
    Bill
    

       This is sorta dead-related commercial music....The King Biscuit
    Flower Hour is starting to put out cd's of full concerts that they
    have broadcasted over the years...well anyway....the first double cd
    out is Kingfish...live from April 1976 at the Beacon Thr. in NYC....
    Two enthusiastic thumbs up from this very happy consumer....if you
    like Kingfish at all, you will love this....

    
    I heard King Biscuit was coming back.  I hope they continue their
    radio show.  I know Radio-One sorta put em out o' business at 
    one time.

    King Biscuit was a great show!  From what I read in the paper
    they're having trouble getting release rights from some of
    the more major acts, who might want to put their own record
    out.

    Tom

Got this tidbit of info:

---------
   Deadhead Alert: An 18-minute animated home laser disc aiming to capture the
   "feeling" of live Grateful Dead concerts will hit stores this week through
   Image Entertainment. Produced by Len Dell'Amico and Larry Lachman, who
   conceived and staged special effects for Grateful Dead concerts from 1987
   -1991, the laser disc - which will also be made into a video soon - is
   called "Infrared Sightings." Grateful Dead leader Jerry Garcia, who died
   Aug. 9, was involved in the initial planning of the project.... Also, two
   Garcia albums with mandolinist David Grisman will be out next spring,
   including a second volume of "Old and In the Way," a bluegrass album that
   Garcia and Grisman and other musicians recorded in 1972. The second
   compilation will be made up of Garcia-Grisman sessions recorded between 1990
   and 1995.
----------

    Umm, there is already a LD single called Infrared something-or-other
    which I have. I wonder if it is the same thing?
    
    gary

  NEXT or NEXT UNSEEN here if you're tired of me prattling on about Dead
  samplers assembled from commercial CDs...  more follows the form-feed...
        - Jay


  I got back a ton of feedback from the recipients of my Dead samplers...
  What they liked and didn't like.  Since I was enjoying the exchange, I
  decided to try again (result listed below, sequencing changeable).  Two
  requested a 1975-now followon (don't think I have the time).  At least 3
  of 'em went out CD hunting after sampling, maybe the music showed 'em some
  light....        - Jay

STUDIO DEAD, 1969-1974                                  [90 minute cassette]
----------------------                                  [CD lvl 4.0; 3dB pk]
All compositions by Garcia/Hunter, except as noted.

  [from AOXOMOXOA(*), '69:]
St. Stephen             (Garcia/Lesh/Hunter)            4:28

  [from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD(*), '70:]
Uncle John's Band                                       4:45
Dire Wolf                                               3:15
Casey Jones                                             4:25

  [from AMERICAN BEAUTY, '70:]
Friend of the Devil     (Garcia/Dawson/Hunter)          3:24
Sugar Magnolia          (Weir/Hunter)                   3:19
Ripple                                                  4:10
Truckin'                (Garcia/Lesh/Weir/Hunter)       5:03

  [from GARCIA (solo album), '72:]
Sugaree                                                 5:56
The Wheel                                               4:04
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                       42:49
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deal                                                    3:14

  [from ACE(*), '72:]
Mexicali Blues          (Weir/Barlow)                   3:27
Cassidy                 (Weir/Barlow)                   3:40

  [from WAKE OF THE FLOOD, '73:]
Stella Blue                                             6:27
Eyes of the World                                       5:21
Weather Report Suite:
   Prelude              (Weir)
-> Part 1               (Weir/Anderson)  [edited]       5:39

  [from MARS HOTEL, '74:]
U.S. Blues                                              4:42
Scarlet Begonias                                        4:19
Ship of Fools                                           5:28
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                       42:17
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*  See the LIVE tape for live versions of China Cat Sunflower (AOXOMOXOA),
   Cumberland Blues (WORKINGMAN'S DEAD), Playing in the Band (ACE), and
   One More Saturday Night (ACE).

Likely inclusions for possible followon volume (1975-1995)
----------------------------------------------------------
BLUES FOR ALLAH:  Franklin's Tower, The Music Never Stopped
REFLECTIONS:  Might as Well, Mission in the Rain, They Love Each Other
TERRAPIN STATION:  Estimated Prophet, Samson & Delilah
SHAKEDOWN STREET:  Shakedown Street, <drums>, Fire on the Mountain, I Need a
  Miracle
GO TO HEAVEN:  Alabama Getaway, Althea, Feel Like a Stranger, Don't Ease Me In
IN THE DARK:  Touch of Grey, West L.A. Fadeaway, Black Muddy River
BUILT TO LAST:  ?
Live cuts from ONE FROM THE VAULT ('75), STEAL YOUR FACE ('76), RECKONING
  ('81), DEAD SET ('81), DYLAN & THE DEAD ('89), WITHOUT A NET ('90)
                                                                  (over)

LIVE DEAD, 1969-1972                                    [94 minute cassette]
--------------------                                    [CD lvl 4.0; LP 5.5]
All compositions by Garcia/Hunter, except as noted.

  [from GRATEFUL DEAD (skull & roses), '71:]
Bertha                                                  5:42
Playing in the Band     (Weir/Hunter)                   4:40
Me & My Uncle           (John Phillips)                 3:04
Wharf Rat                                               8:30
Not Fade Away           (Petty/Hardin)
-> Goin' Down the Road
   Feelin' Bad          (trad./arr.Dead)                9:12

  [from EUROPE '72:]
Jack Straw              (Weir/Hunter)                   4:49
China Cat Sunflower                                     5:33
-> I Know You Rider     (trad./arr.Dead)                5:04
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                       46:34
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cumberland Blues        (Garcia/Lesh/Hunter)            5:43
Tennessee Jed                                           7:10
One More Saturday Night (Weir)                          4:48

  [from LIVE DEAD, '69:]
Dark Star                                              23:07
Turn On Your Lovelight  (Scott/Malone) [edited to fit]  6:30
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                       47:18
------------------------------------------------------------------------

STUDIO/LIVE overlap with commercial compilations
------------------------------------------------
SKELETONS FROM THE CLOSET:  St. Stephen, Uncle John's Band, Casey Jones,
  Friend of the Devil, Sugar Magnolia, Truckin', Mexicali Blues, One More
  Saturday Night, Turn On Your Lovelight
NOT:  Golden Road, Rosemary

WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP IT'S BEEN:  Ripple, Truckin', Playing in the Band,
  Me & My Uncle, Jack Straw, Cumberland Blues, Tennessee Jed
NOT:  New New Minglewood Blues, Born Cross-Eyed, Doin' That Rag, Cosmic
  Charlie, Dark Star (studio), High Time, New Speedway Boogie, St. Stephen
  (live), Black Peter (live), Brown Eyed Woman, Ramble On Rose

DEADICATED (various artists):  Uncle John's Band, Casey Jones, Friend of the
  Devil, Ripple, Truckin', Deal, Cassidy, U.S. Blues, Ship of Fools, Bertha,
  Wharf Rat, Jack Straw
NOT:  To Lay Me Down, China Doll, Estimated Prophet

Other difficult omissions
-------------------------
Pre-Hunter:  Morning Dew, The Other One
WORKINGMAN'S DEAD:  Black Peter
AMERICAN BEAUTY:  Box of Rain, Candyman, Brokedown Palace
GARCIA:  Bird Song, Loser
ACE:  Looks Like Rain
WAKE OF THE FLOOD:  Mississippi Uptown Half-Step Toodle-oo, Row Jimmy
MARS HOTEL:  Pride of Cucamonga
COMPLIMENTS OF GARCIA (GARCIA '74): <forget the song title>
Live cuts from TWO FROM THE VAULT ('68), BEAR'S CHOICE ('70), DICK'S PICKS 2
  ('71), 100 YEAR HALL ('72), DICK's PICKS 1 ('73)
                                                                  (over)

  Don't think I've seen any comment in here on the new "Roots of the
  Grateful Dead" CD on Shanachie.  (Original versions of Morning Dew, Big
  Railroad Blues, Big Boss Man, etc. etc.  The Dead had a hand in its
  production; also R Crumb's cover art is offered as a T shirt by GDM...)
  
  Anyone formed an opinion yet?   I've only played it once myself -- I think
  what's there is fine (esp. the ones I hadn't heard, like the original
  Morning Dew).  Not sure how often I'd play it straight through, but...
  
  My other thought -- they really need a Vol.2 of this.  They missed a lot
  of cherce originals of Dead covers.  - Jay

    is this the same Shanachie label that produces most of the
    international stuff i.e. Bunny Wailer, Culture, Lucky Dube etc...?
       they do alot of blues releases too if i remember
    

yup - Shanachie...world/reggae/afropop

RE:  The roots album 

I've seen it but haven't grabbed it yet.
The cover is neat...
bob

    I tried to get this CD at Tower in NYC after the Zero show Friday
    night.  Just as I got to the Dead area another guy grabbed their last
    copy.  Oh Well.  Then I tried to get it at my local "discounter" The
    Wiz, however, they didn't know what I was talking about.
    
    Oh well, I'll have to keep on looking.
    
    Fredda
    
    P.S.  Zero was great - only about 80-100 people showed up.  Steve
    Kimmock is some guitarist.  His overall style is very similar to
    Jerry's.  It's very errie - if da (remaining) boyz want to tour, he's
    their man.

    Zero!!!  Sorry I missed the show, I knew they were coming but guess I
    spaced.  I've talked to Steve a couple of times on the phone, back when
    he was working for Mesa Boogie (he helped me out with an amp problem);
    a real peach.  I wouldn't mind seeing him join up with the boyz at all!
    
    /rick
    

    Grateful Dead Record's Dick's Picks may not be out of business yet!
    
    The latest issue of ICE magazine, a CD trade magazine devoted to
    release dates for CDs and other related stuff, states that the label is
    going to release Volume 3 on November 7. It will be a 2-CD set recorded
    live at Pembroke Pines, FL on 5/22/77 when Keith and Donna were with
    the band. Disc 1 opens with a 30-second "Funiculi Funicula" jam,
    followed by "Music Never Stopped," a 16-minute "Sugaree," Lazy
    Lightning>Supplication," a 14-minute "Dancin' in the Streets, and
    "Help>Slip>Franklins (with a 15-minute Franklins).
    
    Disc 2 is "Samson," "Sunrise," "Estimated," a 13-minute "Eyes," "Wharf
    Rat," "Terrapin Station," and a 14-minute "Morning Dew."
    
    

    my kinda tunes!!! I'll be looking on the 7th of Nov.
    
    rfb

    where the hell is the scarlet->fire on live CD? 

    >>where the hell is the scarlet->fire on live CD?
    
    It was played the night before (5/21/77) along with Comes A Time and
    St. Stephen.

    
    
    
    
    1977 ?!?!?!?  Someone say May 1977????   :-) 
    
    
    Steve-O_77_fan_club_Prez
    
    
    
    
    
    

    ahh that would be on tape meatball....
    
    i need scarlet on cd mr "1977 fan club president"
    

  That '77 DP3 sounds great -- esp. as I happen to not have any '77 shows.
  
  About Shanachie -- yeah, my favorite "world music" release of theirs is
  Franco and Rochereau "Omano Wapi".  2 superstars of South African pop
  getting together -- once they get you into their groove, it's really
  trance-inducing and addictive.

  In case anyone's having a hard time finding "The Music Never Stopped:
  Roots of the Grateful Dead", below is a quickie cut list...  - Jay

OBRAY RAMSEY, Rain and Snow
MERLE HAGGARD, Mama Tried
DIXIE CUPS, Iko Iko
REV. GARY DAVIS, Samson & Delilah
CANNON'S JUG STOMPERS, Big Railroad Blues
MARTY ROBBINS, El Paso
BOB DYLAN, It's All Over Now Baby Blue
CHARLIE PATTON, Spoonful
HOWLIN' WOLF, Red Rooster
CHUCK BERRY, Promised Land
HENRY THOMAS, Don't Ease Me In
JIMMY REED, Big Boss Man
BOBBY BLUE BLAND, Turn on Your Love Light
BONNIE DOBSON, Morning Dew
BUDDY HOLLY, Not Fade Away
WOODY GUTHRIE, Goin' Down This Road Feelin' Bad
PINDAR FAMILY W/ JOSEPH SPENCE, I Bid You Goodnight

>                          -< Dick's Pick Vol 3 info >-

 
	will this be thru GDM only?

	in any case, Yeah!, love those '77 showz...

	Debess

    >> will this be thru GDM only?
    
    Good question! I know that the previous two are now available as
    rather expensive imports at Rockit, Newbury, and Tower, so I hope that
    they'll either make it available via phone or domestic release. The
    price for double CD imports is extremely high. 
    
    That's on my list of questions to ask Dale at Rockit.
    
    >>in any case, Yeah!, love those '77 showz...
    
    Now if they'd do the Cornell and LA Forum shows from that run....:-)
    
    Mike

  One reason I'm psyched for Dick's Picks 3 is I've been getting back into
  Deadtape games...
  
  I'm constructing composite Dead concerts from (so far) 1968-9,
  1970-1, 1972, and 1973-5, working from both tapes and commercial releases.
  I was going to look into 1977 (which people keep telling me to) after I
  finished those.
  
  Games tapeheads play.  The only rub so far has been messing with the sound
  on the tapes to make them fit with each other and with the commercial
  stuff.  Don't have no fancy equipment.

  The 68-9 is kinda like Live Dead, but with an Other One, a Morning Dew,
  etc.  Stuff that shoulda been on Live Dead.
  
  1970-1 is a little strange, as (fleeting) 70 vs. early 71 vs. late 71
  shows somehow don't mix real well (pigpen seems to be in and out, unless
  my ears deceive me).  It only hangs together circumstantially, because
  it's all post-Workingman's/Beauty, and nearly always with NFA/GDTRFB.
  
  '72 includes Cryptical and Comes a Time from Hundred Year Hall plus songs
  introduced in Europe.
  
  '73-5 has the common threads in the repetoire that connect those years for
  me (Big River, Sugaree, Roses, Wake/Mars/Allah, ...  can't bring myself to
  include Around & Around, though it was omnipresent, and Il paso on El
  Paso).  Haven't sorted it all out yet.

  I try to include a Dark Star and St. Stephen from each time (if I can find
  clean/compelling ones), they seem to add a dimension...  Just got my hands
  on the "samba" versions (as I think of them) on the '71 Dick's Picks a
  couple of weeks ago, they're in.

  '77 -- a new frontier...  - Jay

Don't pay those import prices!  Call GDM and order them!!

	dave

   <<< Note 38.237 by NECSC::LEVY "Half-Step Mississippi Uptown Toodleoo" >>>

>Don't pay those import prices!  Call GDM and order them!!

Yea, Dave's right but DP II is "on backorder" and has been for some time.
But they stay they are getting more...
bob

Re: "The Music Never Stopped: Roots of the Grateful Dead"

OBRAY RAMSEY, Rain and Snow - Bluegrass banjo type music, Jerry always liked 
	this kind of music, Jerry could have learned it from Peter Rowan who
	did it with Bill Monroe (who was credited with creating bluegrass music)
MERLE HAGGARD, Mama Tried - Classic Merle Haggard, this is where "country"
	music came from 
DIXIE CUPS, Iko Iko - This is an old song, the Dixie Cups version was recorded	
	on somewhat of a lark with (I think) only percussion as accompaniment,
	lots of great versions of this song out of New Orleans
REV. GARY DAVIS, Samson & Delilah - Great song, Rev. Gary Davis is worth 
	checking out, Hot Tuna did lots of Rev, Gary Davis songs.  My Hot Tuna
	favorite is acoustic Death Don't Have No Mercy - which we have all 	
	heard.  Rev. Gary Davis was (is?) an awesome acoustic guitar player.
	I suspect that members of Hot Tuna may have actually taken guitar 
	lessons from Rev. Gary Davis.
CANNON'S JUG STOMPERS, Big Railroad Blues - 
MARTY ROBBINS, El Paso - I grew up with this song on the radio, a favorite of
	my older brother, this is the "western" side of "country and western"
BOB DYLAN, It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Another gem from a well of great songs
CHARLIE PATTON, Spoonful 
HOWLIN' WOLF, Red Rooster - There is a great version of this from 1970 with
	Eric Clapton and the Rolling Stones in accompaniment.  This is one of
	the few songs that the Dead covered that I think they didn't necessarily
	do better than the original.
CHUCK BERRY, Promised Land - That Johnny B. Good riff will live forever.
HENRY THOMAS, Don't Ease Me In
JIMMY REED, Big Boss Man - Jimmy Reed has always been greatly under-rated in
	my opinion.  Pigpen "personalized" some of the lyrics and changed 
	the tone of the song a lit.
BOBBY BLUE BLAND, Turn on Your Love Light - Pigpen really understood the blues
	and Bobby Blue Bland could sing the blues, I think this has horns.
BONNIE DOBSON, Morning Dew - Jerry put more feeling into his versions that
	this lady ever imagined
BUDDY HOLLY, Not Fade Away - Classic rock and roll.
WOODY GUTHRIE, Goin' Down This Road Feelin' Bad - I taught in a high school for
	gifted children who chose to exit their graduation ceremony to the 
	Beatles "Here Comes The Sun".  Runner up in the voting was this tune.
	I think the intent of the voters was to use the Dead's version.  Those
	kids had the right attitude about that school.
PINDAR FAMILY W/ JOSEPH SPENCE, I Bid You Goodnight - Pretty crude version here.
	If you want to hear a *great* version of this get Arron Neville's solo
	album that covers this with the Neville Brothers and friends singing.
	Great version.

Anybody know of an original version of I Know You Rider?

Jim

>BOBBY BLUE BLAND, Turn on Your Love Light - Pigpen really understood the blues
>	and Bobby Blue Bland could sing the blues, I think this has horns.

I have the Bobby Blue Bland album (yep, vinyl!) with this on it.  Has the 
horns.  I think the Dead's (with Pig) arraignment is straight from this
version!  Just longer.   Another great tune on this album - why I bought it -
is "Something on Your Mind".  Which Pigpen & the Boy's covered in 1966, 
for example 11-29-66.  Again, Pigpen and the band did a very straight cover!
Even down to the stop-time vocal-only break.  Jer sure did play a great
blues guitar... *sigh*....

 Josh

    re -.1
    
    "Jerry could have learned it from Peter Rowan..."
    
    Jerry was way into it before meeting Peter...  in the liner notes of
    Old and In the Way it tlak briefly of Jerry and Peter meeting in SC i
    think...  i also seem to recall reading that Jerry got into this music
    while living with his Grandmother, when they used to sit around and listen to the Grand Ole
    Opry on the radio...  it predates his involvement in rock and roll...
    let us not forget that before the dead, Jerry and his first wife were
    folkies doing the coffee house circuit , and he was picking banjo in 
    MotherMcCree's Uptown Jug Champions...
    
    he was a cool banjo picker...  too bad they were never able to recreate
    that act... :^(
    
    Peter Rowan does frequently credit Bill Monroe as a big influence on
    his craft...  i think Peter was only about 17 when he started working
    with Bill and the Bluegrass Boyz...
    
    					da ve
    

    oops!  make that last one -.2!  Josh slippied one in on me! :^)
    

    
    I believe I Know You Rider is a traditional of uncertain origin.

... yes, another song by that amazing prolific songwriter Trad.  His/her 
partner, Anon, wrote about the other half of those old tunes :-)

  Yeah, and as the liner notes reflect, "Goin' Down This Road..." is a Trad.
  song too -- though Woody's was the one to include.

  Trying to think if I know a pre-Dead recording of "I Know You Rider"
  that's in print anywhere...  (Seem to recall one under a different
  title...)

  BTW, the Cannon's Jug Stompers and Henry Thomas cuts are not their
  signature tunes -- you can find those in the (excellent up to mid 50s)
  Smithsonian anthology "The Blues".  Which BTW, has loads of cuts that were
  direct archetypes of rock songs.  The programmer must've picked 'em that
  way on purpose, it's startling how many famous 60s and 70s riffs came
  directly from 20s and 30s recordings by blues artists that emerged from
  obscurity for just one or two 78's of note.

  Must be Monday, I'm ramblin' worse than usual...  - Jay

  Apologies if this has been addressed...
  
  What's the deal on this "Grateful Dead: Trip Without a Ticket" package
  that Newbury Comix is selling?
  
  From outward appearances, it's a booklet and a "70 minute live CD",
  possibly of Italian origin.  $25.     - Jay

>	I suspect that members of Hot Tuna may have actually taken guitar 
>	lessons from Rev. Gary Davis.

	Bobby did.

    
>    Jerry was way into it before meeting Peter...  in the liner notes of
>    Old and In the Way it tlak briefly of Jerry and Peter meeting in SC i
>    think...  i also seem to recall reading that Jerry got into this music

	they met (i read) at the Bluegrass Festival in Union Grove NC
	(I think it was 'N') - I used to go to that festival too, back
	in the mid-70's during Easter weekend - then it started to get
	too big, so I haven't been again - does it still happen?

	Debess

     About "trip without a Ticket"....I have this CD/Book combo and I also
    bought it at newbury comix....Its one set of the NYE 1971 show and a
    book that has pages printed half in english and half in Italian...
    mostly historical stuff with some discography stuff for both commercial
    releases and what "they" consider essential boot-leg recordings and
    videos....The CD quality is OK...nice set..
    
                 :-)
                                                                          

    re: Gary Davis and HT.  
    
    Jorma studied with the Reverand.
    
    PeterT
    

  Picking up a tangential discussion from the last-show tree topic, 486...

  Quick consumer note about the boot CDs "Jerry's Last Show 7/8/95 Set 1"
                                     and "Jerry's Last Show 7/9/95 Set 2".

  First, it does bother me that folks in Italy and elsewhere are leaping to
  cash in on concert tapes.  If they were doing it out of reverence or for
  posterity, it would be one thing...  In this particular case, their haste
  manifests itself in several ways.
  
  The main thing to be aware of:  The cut lists are reversed -- 7/8 Set 1
  lists the cuts for 7/9 Set 2 and vice versa.  The CD contents and liner
  notes are correct for those sets, only the back-insert cut lists are wrong.
  
  If you buy 7/8 Set 1, you really are getting:
    Jack Straw, Sugaree, Wang Dang Doodle, Althea, Queen Jane Approximately,
    Tennessee Jed, Eternity, & Don't Ease Me in.
    
  If you buy 7/9 Set 2, you really are getting [last 5/9ths of set + encores]:
    Corrina, Drums/Space, Unbroken Chain, Sugar Magnolia, Black Muddy River,
    Box of Rain, & "fireworks".

  Other signs of sloppiness & haste:
  ...mention of included video footage (?? assuming this is spurious)
  ...total lengths listed as approximately 74 minutes each (Set 1 is
     actually 59 & change)
  ...both shows designated "Last"
  ...tapes dumped to CD without editing/reduction of between-songs "air"
  
  The liner notes seem pretty knowledgeable (measuring each performance
  against others that summer -- in fact a bit overcritical in spots, while
  making a plea to listeners to give "Eternity" a chance...).

  The sound: well, OK for in-the-audience (exclamations by surrounding
  onlookers intrude), nowhere near soundboard quality to my ears.  With good
  tapes available, I wouldn't rush to get this...  - Jay

  P.S. to a comment about these not being the artists' signature tunes...

> CANNON'S JUG STOMPERS, Big Railroad Blues -

  If you had to pick a signature tune for Cannon's Jug Stompers (pre WW2
  black jug band), IMO it would be either "Minglewood Blues" or "Viola Lee
  Blues".  (Erasing any doubt Garcia and Weir are into these guys...)

> HENRY THOMAS, Don't Ease Me In

  Aka "Ragtime Texas".  On reflection, I'm not sure this guy ever latched
  onto a tune that became identified with him.  Including "Don't Ease Me
  In".  The tune in Smithsonian's "The Blues" is "Bull Doze Blues", a pretty
  generic sample of his stuff.
  
  This guy was one of those pre-blues "songsters" who played everything he
  heard around him (dance tunes, spirituals, pop songs, folk/ hillbilly/
  cowboy songs, work songs, narrative ballads, ragtime tunes, minstrel songs
  -- all the stuff that floated out of the 1800s and predates commercial
  blues).  A chameleon.  More famous exponents of his ilk are Mississippi
  John Hurt, Leadbelly, and Mance Lipscomb.   - Jay

    re.251  I'm not so sher the Italians are trying to cash in on Jerry's
    passing by releasing Dead boot cd's...I collect Genesis boot cd's and
    many nicely packaged/good sounding Genesis boots are made in Italy
    
    Wes

Second Coming Records near Harvard Sq. has zillions of boot CDs, Dead and
nearly everyone else.  Cost is usually about $20-$25 per CD.   
Often quite hilarious to see the badly botched song titles, and bizaro 
covers that attempt to appeal to 'coolness'. 

 Josh

    kinda like roseanne is trying to cash in on viewer ratings by having
    some jerryesque plot?
    
    
    give me a friggin break.....
    if i saw her at a show, i'd throw my veggie burrito at her

    RE:
    kinda like roseanne is trying to cash in on viewer ratings by having
        some jerryesque plot?
    
    
    roseanne dosesn't need the money...I have more respect for her than the
    CD booters... (CD booters????)
    
    
    rfb

	I don't think Roseanne was cashing in.  She already has enough
	cash to care for the offspring of her offspring of her offspring.
	
	Roseanne has been a Deadhead for a while.  

>    if i saw her at a show, i'd throw my veggie burrito at her

	very bitter, dood.    need some geritol????   ;-)
	
	
	i liked the roseanne schtick. i don't think she was cashing in.
	now, selling boots ..... now that's low  ;-)  ;-)
	
	
	JayC, did you actually buy this CD ??
	thanks for the review. I see boots advertised in magazines.
	personally, i cudn't get myself to buy unauthorized stuff like
	that. i like gettin' tapes, but for someone to capitalize on
	bands who allow taping .... just ain't right  ;-)
	
	jols

    
    Wellllll
    maybe i was a bit harsh
    
    something about a chick singing the national anthem and then grabbing
    her crotch strikes me as....hmmmm...kinda crass
    
    

    something about a chick singing the national anthem and then grabbing
        her crotch strikes me as....hmmmm...kinda crass
    
    
    
    like Michael Jackson???
      
                     %^)
    
    
    rfb

    
    HAAAA HAAAAAaaa!!!!

	i never knew you were such a patriot, leBlank!!  ;-)
	
	you probly have a different reaction were it, say, gabby reece.
	
	;-)
	
	

    
     Ya I was just talking to Carol Roberts about this crotch thing.
     She had a different take on it, that since those guys 
     (baseball players) are always doing that, and it was sort 
     of like giving the high five ...
    
    

    
    it is ok if you gots something to grab
    
    gabby reece can grab whatever the hell she wants
    that woman is a freakin GODDESS!!

    
    liten up chris_man.  That national anthem/crotch grabbin' hussy
    did a wonderful thing when she pulled that off.  nothing is sacred to
    that lady - NOTHING!   Not national anthems, not bacca chewing crotch
    grabbin', struttin' jersey clothed players .. nothin' i say, nothin!!
    
    :-)  
    go rosanne
    
    c
    

	hey Chris, fwiw, I think Roseanne is sincere...
	I imagine her tribute was from the heart

	Debess

    well maybe i was too brash in my response.......
    
    
    Grab em if you got em!!!!!

>                -< 7/8 Set 1 and 7/9 Set 2 boots -- not great >-

  Actually, I should "clarify" a couple of things about that review I did...
  
  No, I didn't buy the bootleg CD -- I sampled it in the store.
  
  FWIW, and I'm not kidding, I don't buy bootlegs.  Part of this is probably
  hypocrisy -- I know dozens of local collectors and critics I can drop in
  on for listens.  (Looser morals, bigger wallets? 8)  You better believe I
  know every note of the Basement Tapes, Albert Hall '66 (dylan of course),
  Live-R, Black Album, etc. etc.  (I have other favorites that aren't as
  famous.)  Never have paid a dime for a bootleg, though.
  
  But part of this is genuine ambivalence on my part:
  - I don't like to buy things that don't benefit the artists.
  - The really great ones surface on commercial releases anyway, albeit w/
    infuriating gaps [all the ones I listed above have, or will soon, become
    available, except Live-R.  Albert Hall '66 is due soon...  Beatles
    outtakes 19-Nov...  DP3 7-Nov...]
  - With so many high quality sanctioned Dead tapes around, what's the
    point?
  - Most of them aren't up to snuff, not unlike commercial releases.  (I do
    a lot of asking stores to open one up and play me a sample...  before I
    report to friends  8).

  Also, I didn't mean to single out Italian bootleggers for criticism --
  Italy has been, for some time, a hotbed of bootlegging (the way Austria is
  a hotbed of preWW2 reissues of gems they can't possibly have licensed but
  rather got directly off vast private European collections of 78s...).
  A lot of it is done out of reverence and for posterity, and apparently w/
  the blessing of local & international authorities.

  The one I critiqued isn't even Italian, I don't think -- and it was just
  this one particular pair of CDs I thought reaked of hasty assembly.

  I'll be more careful how I discuss "live concerts CDs" in the future.
  -JayC.

    
    I liked the Jerry Tribute on Roseanne...
    
    it could'a been alot worse if she tried to sing any Dead tunes  8-)
    
    
    Toby_back_from_FLA

>     About "trip without a Ticket"....I have this CD/Book combo and I also
>    bought it at newbury comix....Its one set of the NYE 1971 show and a
>    book that has pages printed half in english and half in Italian...

  I picked this up.  (In addition to NYE '71 I found a Mason's Children
  from '69...)  Part of the fun was perusing the English translation of the
  Italian text -- but their Dead-ication shines through all the resulting
  malapropisms...  - JayC

  P.S. to a comment I made about Henry "Ragtime Texas" Thomas, source of
  "Don't Ease Me In"...

> HENRY THOMAS, Don't Ease Me In
> On reflection, I'm not sure this guy ever latched onto a tune that became
> identified with him...

  Just remembered that Dylan did his "Honey Won't You Allow Me One More
  Chance".  Technically the song didn't become well-known until Dylan
  covered it in '62, but it's probably the closest thing to a song
  identified with Thomas.  - JayC.

  Well, I'm into my 5th listen to Dick's Picks 3, and...
  
  Just kidding.  So, is Dick's Picks 3 available or orderable anywhere yet?
  GDM?   UK?   - Jay

    I ordered dp3 from GDM last night.  $15 plus $3.50 shipping.  They said
    4-8 weeks for delivery.  :-(
    
    	dave
    

    	Dave,
    
    Don't get *too* bummed by the 4-8 weeks quote... I ordered DP2 3 weeks
    ago, they gave me the same quote, but it was in my mailbox 5 days
    later..... I think the 4-8 weeks is just to deal with worst case... at
    least, that's what I hope, as I plan on ordering DP3 today... :^).
    
    -chuck
    

    Jay
    call 1 800 323 2300 for latvala's latest beauty
    
    GDM says this almanac issue has a "scaled down" merchandise sectiona nd
    mentions something about a christmas catalog that was cancelled....\
    there still is quite a selection tho

    Thanks for posting the number, haven't seen the almanac
    as yet, CD on the way.

      I ordered DP III today and the nice lady told me" 2-4 weeks" for
    delivery...maybe if I order on Friday that copy will arrive before
    the 1st one I ordered....?....
    
                :-)
    

    ...and if you order again on Monday you might get it BEFORE you order
    it...
    
    8*)
    
    ...mike

	got DPIII yesterday - ordered it last Tuesday (I think)...
	haven't listened to it yet - gonna save it as a b'day gift for
	Guntis in a few weeks - it's hard to wait though!

	Debess

    it is pretty damn good
    
    nice estimated->eyes
    
    what exactly is Latvala's plan????
    will we be getting one of these lovelies *EVERY* coupla months?

    Out Of The Vaults Volume 318 comin' right up in 2009!
    
    I'll buy it!
    
    ...mike
    

    Got mine today, but I am away and can't listen until tomorrow,
    only took 1 week.

      I got mine today...listened to the whole thing....What a grate mind
    trip.....order yours today...you'll be mighty glad you did...!!!
    
     P.S.  I'm not sure if this is the CD I was thinking of ordering that
    came before I ordered it or the one I ordered last Tues. that was
    going to take 2-4 weeks...
    
                 :-)

    
    
    Man. that Dick sure can pick.
    
    3 for 3 from the 70's   :-)
    
    
    Steve-O
    

  Just got my Dick's Picks Vol.3.  Disc 1 enlivened this morning's commute...

  Love everything so far (ignoring, as always, the dancing-dancing-dancing
  chorus of Dancing in the Streets, which I can never get past...).

  Can't wait for disc 2 on the way home.  Have many '69-'75 shows, but this
  is my first '77.  Won't be my last.

  BTW, if anyone out there wants DP3 but doesn't do credit cards, phone
  orders, or asking some willing soul to phone-order it for them...  Newbury
  Comics does have DP3... for 38 bucks <ouch>.   - JayC.

    I guess *THAT* is why their metal tapes are so expensive
      ...if they charge that much for DP3
    
    
    gouging bast-ahds!
    
    

    What a ripoff, it was $18 from GDM.

    From what I've heard, DP3 is only available via GDM, but
    the expensive versions at Newbury (and elsewhere) are import versions,
    which always cost more for some reason...

    /Ken

from the internet:

the new Old and In the Way CD is now due in
stores on Feb. 20th, not today. (I just called my local CD merchant and
was told this.) I guess it's just another release delay, which is not
uncommon.

I also verified the new date with Acoustic Disc, the CD's label (founded
by David Grisman). But you can place an advance order with them now, and
receive a copy of the CD "in about two weeks" (i.e., around Feb. 13). Call
1-800-221-DISC if you're interested in ordering.

For those who have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, here's the
album blurb from the Acoustic Disc Web pages:
(http://www.sfm.com/dawgnet/catalog/ACD-19.html)


Old and In the Way - That High Lonesome Sound (ACD-19)
-------------------------------------------------

At Last - New Old

And now...21 years after the release of one of the most popular bluegrass
albums ever comes more Old and In the Way - That High Lonesome Sound on the
Acoustic Disc Archive Series. This new recording features 14 previously
unreleased songs from the original live performances that produced the
acoustic excitement captured on the first Old and In the Way. Jerry Garcia
picked banjo (his first instrument of expertise) and sang in this legendary
band which played together, mostly in Northern California, for only nine
months in 1973. This unique group of talented individuals featured, in
addition to Garcia, Peter Rowan on guitar and vocals, David Grisman on
mandolin and vocals, Vassar Clements on fiddle and vocals, and John Kahn on
the upright bass, and exposed a huge number of people to bluegrass for the
very first time.

One of the great things about Old and In the Way was its eclectic and
extensive repertoire. This recording includes hard-core bluegrass classics
like Bill Monroe's "I'm On My Way Back to the Old Home" and "Uncle Pen," Jim
and Jesse McReynolds' "Hard Hearted," Vassar Clements' amazing fiddling on
his own "Lonesome Fiddle Blues" and "Orange Blossom Special," as well as
Peter Rowan favorites like "The High Lonesome Sound" and "Lonesome L.A.
Cowboy." There's also an inventive bluegrass arrangement of the 50's pop
ballad, "The Great Pretender" and an evocative performance by Jerry of the
gospel anthem "Angel Band." All this, plus a 20-page booklet featuring rare
photographs and notes by bluegrass scholar Neil Rosenberg, make this release
a must for all bluegrass fans, deadheads, dawgheads and lovers of American
acoustic roots music.

I picked up The Music Never Stopped over the weekend (semi-annual CD
purchase spree)...and I love it!  It's a wee bit uneven, in that
the sound quality is all over the place, but given some of the sources
that can't be helped.  Last night I had to pull out Europe 72 and
SYF to hear the same songs...

Dan

	Anyone hear of a new cd with some reggae groups doing Dead tunes?
	My wife saw a review of it but we can't find it anywhere!!!!

    I saw this at Tower Records, I recently pick up a CD of original
    artist doing tunes that the Dead have covered, Morning Dew,
    Iko Iko, etc...(and a host of others). I am not sure if this is 
    a new album (produced by David Gans), but it is fun to listen
    to the originals.

    Tdavis
    the music never stopped?
    
    we need jayc to further explain this reggae deal...
    I want to hear Jimmy Cliff do a *Jerry Band* tune seeing as it was the
    other way around for a long time           

Here's a track listing I pulled off the wire:

Fire on the Mountain - Reggae Celebrates the Grateful Dead

Artists & Songs

Wailing Souls - Casey Jones
Mighty Diamonds - Touch of Grey
Frederick "Toots" Hibbert - Catfish John
Judy Mowatt - Row Jimmy
Joe Higgs - Uncle John's Band
Steel Pulse - Franklin's Tower
Chalice - Fire on The Mountain
Michael Rose - Wharf Rat
Freddie McGregor - Eyes of the World
Lasana Bandele - Cassidy
Dennis Brown - Good Lovin

Available from:
Pow Wow Records
(212) 245-3010

	That's the one we're looking for. She had forgotten the title and
	no one in Tower or Newbury Comics knew what we were talking about.
	

	Thinking about that alot of times no one knows what we're talking 	
        about:)

Thanks
Chris

    steel pulse doing franklin's tower
    
    
    *THAT* should be pisser

>Fire on the Mountain - Reggae Celebrates the Grateful Dead

  I listened to this once through on the way to work.  My first reaction is
  kind of mixed, though first reactions can steer you wrong...
  
  In the spirit of dwelling on the positive -- one cut I instantly liked on
  first hearing was Lasana Bandele's "Cassidy".  Here's a cover that doesn't
  just take a Dead tune and put it to a reggae beat, but reworks the song.
  Sounds like he was having a damn good time too (he's a Bay Area reggae
  artist, has an underground following the notes say).

  This is the sort of reggae reworking I was hoping for from this CD, like
  what Burning Spear did with "Estimated Prophet" in the Deadicated tribute.

  Reggae artists and the Dead oughta have spiritual and, uh, sacremental
  common ground, as well as similar generosity, good humor, and general
  outlook in musicmaking...  Plus some Dead tunes might lend themselves to
  reggae treatment.  Was hoping more would take it up and run with it.
  
  The cut I was expecting the least from, "Catfish John" (don't like the
  song much) is actually given a decent turn by Toots (Hibbert).  'Course
  I'm a sucker for those Otis Redding mannerisms.
  
  "Wharf Rat" by Michael Rose (Black Uhuru's main man) is interesting...
  
  I like it when the musicians take liberties or add something of their own,
  such as the reggae-vocalese section in "Casey Jones" by Wailing Souls...

  "Eyes of the World" seems like a natural, lyrically at least, for a reggae
  artist -- and it is great to hear the vocal nailed for once  8) 8) .
  (Couldn't resist.)  Coulda been a great cut with a little more reworking,
  esp. in the rhythm section, but hey, I'll settle for good.

  Guess I've commented favorably on several cuts...  Guess I wish all the
  cuts had the rawness and rhythmic surprise of the "Cassidy" cover.  And
  why no Island/Mango-affiliated headliners? -- I have a hunch label
  affiliations played a hand...  

  "grain of salt" advisory applies -- by the 2nd or 3rd listening I'll
  probably think "Cassidy" is drivel and all the slick uptownish cuts
  timeless classics...   - JayC.

    Reggae fans P.S.  The 2-CD "Anthology" sets coming out for Toots & the
       Maytals, Burning Spear, Black Uhuru, and others are all the same
       (Island/Mango) artists covered by single-CD "Reggae Greats"
       collections last year.  Might wanna compare before you buy...

      about "fire on the mountain"....
    
        If you like reggae and you like dead songs...buy this disk..!!
    I picked it up on Sunday PM and have listened to it 2 1/2 times
    already!
    
      I found it in Newbury Comics (Salem, NH) for 11.88.....it wasn't in
    the reggae or dead sections, it was in the compilation section...you
    know where they keep the disco hits of the 70's collections and stuff
    like that ....

	Pick up Fire On The Mountain on Saturday. Like it alot, it's been
	in about 3 times since late Sat.

	Funny my wife called the Salem Newbury Comics Friday and they 
	did not have nor had they heard of it. We got it at Newbury Comics
	in Peabody/Danvers. She had called Tower records in Boston and
	before she finished giving the title they told her that they had it.


Chris

  FWIW, the Burlington (MA) Newbury Comics has "Fire" also for $11.88.
  In their case, filed under the Dead (not reggae, not compilations).

  I've listened to it 3 times now.  Although my first impression still holds
  for me, cuts 6 through 10 provide a mighty tasty reggae/Dead suite for a
  morning commute...
  
> Steel Pulse - Franklin's Tower
> Chalice - Fire on The Mountain
> Michael Rose - Wharf Rat
> Freddie McGregor - Eyes of the World
> Lasana Bandele - Cassidy

  - JayC.

  FWIW:  If you look at the chronological distribution of commercial live
  Dead (semblance provided below), a chronological spread seems to be
  emerging...
  
  Can't wait to see where Dick, John, & Phil take it from here.

  Like others, I'd like to see more "spread" in the repertoire represented.
  So to speak.  (I can hear the "spread" humor whistling this way...)
  
  I meant, Scarlet/Fire et al.      - JayC.
========================================================================  
COMMERCIAL LIVE DEAD  [corrections welcomed - don't yet own my own Deadbase]
--------------------
Two From the Vault              68      8/23-4
Live Dead                       69      *
Dicks Picks 4; Bear's Choice    70      2/13-14
Grateful Dead (S&R)             70-1    late 70(guessing) - early 71
Dick's Picks 2                  71      10/3
Europe '72                      72      4 & 5
Hundred Year Hall               72      4/26
Dick's Picks 1                  73      12/19
Steal Your Face                 74      10/16-20
One From the Vault              75      8/13
Dick's Picks 3                  77      5/22
Dick's Picks 5                  79      12/26
Dead Set; Reckoning             80      9/25 - 10/31
Dylan & the Dead                89      ? (don't own it)
Without a Net                   89-90   10/89 - 4/90
========================================================================  

      Got my Dick's picks V today in the mail.....shakedown>ujb
    reprise..!!! sounds very good!!!
    
                 :-)

> Dylan & the Dead                89      ? (don't own it)

The little booklet says "Recorded Live - July 1987"

Dan

Here are a couple of additions and "corrections".

	dave

========================================================================  
COMMERCIAL LIVE DEAD  [corrections welcomed - don't yet own my own Deadbase]
--------------------
Two From the Vault              68      8/23-4
Anthem of the Sun		68	Mixed live/studio
Live Dead                       69      *
Dicks Picks 4; Bear's Choice    70      2/13-14
Grateful Dead (S&R)             71      Spring 71
Dick's Picks 2                  71      10/3
Europe '72                      72      4 & 5
Hundred Year Hall               72      4/26
Dick's Picks 1                  73      12/19
Steal Your Face                 74      10/16-20
One From the Vault              75      8/13
Dick's Picks 3                  77      5/22
Dick's Picks 5                  79      12/26
Dead Set; Reckoning             80      9/25 - 10/31
Dylan & the Dead                87      Summer 1987
Without a Net                   89-90   10/89 - 4/90
Infrared Roses			90s	Early 90s
========================================================================  

  Great, thanks for the corrections & additions guys...    - JayC.

    the 2nd disk from dick's picks 5 is very close to nirvana...(not the
    band of the same name..)
    
    
               :-) :-) :-)

  FWIW, further elaboration on:

>Infrared Roses			90s	Early 90s

  This addition sent me back to the Infrared & Vault topics...  It's
  mentioned that Infrared comes from Drums/Space's going back to the Dylan
  shows.  And the discussion begins November '91.  So it's probably...
  
 Infrared Roses			87-91   Mid 87 to Mid 91


  Gotta go bike & b'ball hoop shopping anyway, so I should own this puppy
  before the day's out...  Hoping to find DP5 in the mailbox as well.
  Then I can join in torturing others with how great it it.  8)    - JayC.

From the home vault...

Top n Most Frequent Inclusions on Commercial Live Dead Releases
---------------------------------------------------------------

  #4: (tied with 3 inclusions)

Dire Wolf                       (DP4, Reck'g, DP5)
Eyes of the World               (1ftV, DP3, WNet)
Help on the Way                 (1ftV, DP3, WNet)
He's Gone                       (E72, DP1, DP5)
It Must Have Been the Roses     (SYF, 1ftV, Reck'g)
Jack Straw                      (E72, HYH, DP1)
Mississippi Half-Step           (DP1, SYF, WNet)
One More Saturday Night         (E72, HYH, WNet)
Playing in the Band             (S&R, DP1, HYH)
St. Stephen                     (2ftV, LDead, DP2)
Slipknot                        (1ftV, DP3, WNet)
Sugar Magnolia                  (DP2, E72, HYH)
Truckin'                        (E72, HYH, DP1)

  #3: (tied with 4 inclusions)

Around & Around                 (DP1, SYF, 1ftV, DP5)
Big River                       (DP1, SYF, 1ftV, DP5)
China Cat Sunflower             (DP4, E72, HYH, WNet)
Drums                           (DP4, 1ftV, IRoses, DP5)
Franklin's Tower                (1ftV, DP3, DSet, WNet)
Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad (S&R, DP2, 1ftV, HYH)
I Know You Rider                (DP4, E72, HYH, WNet)
Me & My Uncle                   (DP4, S&R, HYH, DP5)
Not Fade Away                   (DP4, S&R, DP2, DP5)
Turn on Your Lovelight          (2ftV, LDead, Dp4, HYH)

  #2: (5 inclusions)

Dark Star                       (2ftV, LDead, DP4, DP2, Grayf*)
                                                          * counted as 1

  And the #1 Most Frequent Inclusion on Commercial Live Dead Releases...
  With a whopping *7* inclusions...
  You guessed it...

  
The Other One [Cryptical]       (2ftV, DP4, DP1, S&R, 1ftV, HYH, DP5)

- JayC.

> From the home vault...

  In the off chance anyone's keeping score at home...
  
  The previous list of Most-Frequent-Inclusions-on-Commercial-Live-Dead-Releases
  omitted 4 titles among the triple dips:
  
Big Railroad Blues              (S&R, HYH, DP1)
Jam                             (DP2, DP1, DP5)
Morning Dew                     (2ftV, E72, DP3)
Sugaree                         (SYF, 1ftV, DP3)

  FWIW, if anyone out there's interested in the complete alphabetical
  concordance of songs on commercial-live-dead releases, let me know...

  Can't imagine I'll keep the text file around long.  (A lunch break's worth
  of effort...)  It illuminated a couple of points for me.   - JayC.

    Fire on the Mountain..A nice compilation...
    The Catfish John by Toots, Row Jimmy by Judy Mowatt and Michael
    Rose(formerly of Black Uhuru?)'s version of Wharf Rat are excellent...
    it seems they incorporated Jerry and Bob's licks into a bass or piano
    riff and held the reggae timing down with the guitar
    
    Quite peculiar yet enjoyable....thumbs up

  Don't remember if this has been mentioned...
  
  David Grisman is beginning a series of Garcia/Grisman releases, with a new
  one to be issued each year on Jerry's birthday (1-Aug).
  
  [The first one is late, but Vols. 2-n should show up each 1-Aug
  thereafter.]
  
  Quotes from Grisman (from Tower's Pulse! magazine):
    "We did about 40 sessions worth of material. 1 to 4 or 5 hours each.
    We recorded every time he came over...
    
    "There's quite a wealth of great stuff there.  There's jazz
    instrumentals.  There's country tunes.  There's bluegrass.  I thought it
    would be appropriate every birthday to put something out for as long as
    it lasts, which will be a few years."

  - Jay    

  
>  David Grisman is beginning a series of Garcia/Grisman releases, with a new
>  one to be issued each year on Jerry's birthday (1-Aug).


	very, very cool...

re: Grisman and Garcia

Sounds cool.  I know that during the few concerts they did together
in the last few years, they sometimes played "Sitting Here In Limbo".
I might have a somewhat hissy copy of that someplace in my great
tape pileup, but I'd love to here a decent version.  Right now I have
to rely on Slipknot from the Slipnot/Zero/Hot Tuna gig at the Northboro
F&G a few years back for my Limbo fix.  Not that there's anything wrong
with that ;-)

PeterT

	if you didn't get a copy of the garcia-grisman tape jeff c
	offered a while ago, get one.  i'd love to hear more.

  A noter was interested in the 80s portion of the Dead live repertoire.
  So, here's the whole snapshot.  80s/90s stuff follows a page break (ff).
  Interesting how many items endured from '66!    - JayC.

LIVE STAPLES (by date of 1st appearance, live or album)
============================================================================
Criteria: 60 or more concert performances, with obvious gaps filled in
(Speedway, Ripple, 90s songs).  Covers are marked with [.

Live    Title                           Album (if any)
----    -----                           --------------
11/65   [I Know You Rider               Europe '72
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1/66    [It's All Over Now Baby Blue    -
3/66    [Beat It On Down the Line       Grateful Dead '67
        [Next Time You See Me           Hundred Year Hall '95
        [Cold Rain & Snow               Grateful Dead '67
7/66    [Big Boss Man                   GD Skull & Roses '71
        [Dancin' in the Streets         Terrapin Station '77
        [Don't Ease Me In               Go To Heaven '80
        [New Minglewood Blues           Grateful Dead '67
10/66   [Walkin' Blues                  Without a Net '90
11/66   [Smokestack Lightning           Bear's Choice '73
        [Me & My Uncle                  GD Skull & Roses '71
12/66   Dupree's Diamond Blues          Aoxomoxoa '69
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1/67    [Morning Dew                    Grateful Dead '67
8/67    [Turn on Your Lovelight         Live Dead '69
9/67    Dark Star                       Live Dead '69
11/67   Other One/ Cryptical            Anthem of the Sun '68
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/68    China Cat Sunflower             Aoxomoxoa '69
        The Eleven                      Live Dead '69
6/68    St. Stephen                     Aoxomoxoa '69
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3/69    [Hard to Handle                 Bear's Choice '73
5/69    [Good Lovin'                    Shakedown Street '78
6/69    Dire Wolf                       Workingman's Dead '70
        [Mama Tried                     GD Skull & Roses '71
        Casey Jones                     Workingman's Dead '70
        High Time                       Workingman's Dead '70
9/69    [It's All Over Now              -
        Uncle John's Band               Workingman's Dead '70
11/69   Cumberland Blues                Workingman's Dead '70
12/69   Black Peter                     Workingman's Dead '70
        New Speedway Boogie             Workingman's Dead '70
        [Not Fade Away                  GD Skull & Roses '71
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/70    Friend of the Devil             American Beauty '70
3/70    Candyman                        American Beauty '70
6/70    Sugar Magnolia                  American Beauty '70
        [Big Railroad Blues             GD Skull & Roses '71
7/70    [El Paso                        Steal Your Face '76
        To Lay Me Down                  Garcia '72
8/70    Ripple                          American Beauty '70
        Truckin'                        American Beauty '70
        Brokedown Palace                American Beauty '70
(10/72) Box of Rain                     American Beauty '70
10/70   [Goin' Down the Road            GD Skull & Roses '71
11/70   [Big River                      Steal Your Face '76
        [Me & Bobby McGee               GD Skull & Roses '71
12/70   Bertha                          GD Skull & Roses '71
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/71    Loser                           Garcia '72
        Greatest Story Ever Told        Ace '72
        [Johnny B. Goode                GD Skull & Roses '71
        Wharf Rat                       GD Skull & Roses '71
        Playing in the Band             GD Skull & Roses '71
        Deal                            Garcia '72
        Bird Song                       Garcia '72
5/71    [Promised Land                  Steal Your Face '76
7/71    Sugaree                         Garcia '72
(6/76)  The Wheel                       Garcia '72
8/71    Brown Eyed Women                Europe '72
9/71    Mexicali Blues                  Ace '72
        Jack Straw                      Europe '72
        Tennessee Jed                   Europe '72
10/71   One More Saturday Night         Ace or Europe '72
        Comes a Time                    Reflections '76
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1/72    Ramble on Rose                  Europe '72
3/72    Black Throated Wind             Ace '72
        Looks Like Rain                 Ace '72
(3/74)  Cassidy                         Ace '72
4/72    He's Gone                       Europe '72
6/72    Stella Blue                     Wake of the Flood '73
7/72    Mississippi Half-Step           Wake of the Flood '73
9/72    [Around & Around                Steal Your Face '76
11/72   WRS: Prelude                    Wake of the Flood '73
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/73    Row Jimmy                       Wake of the Flood '73
        Loose Lucy                      Mars Hotel '74
        Here Comes Sunshine             Wake of the Flood '73
        They Love Each Other            Reflections '76
        Eyes of the World               Wake of the Flood '73
        China Doll                      Mars Hotel '74
9/73    WRS: Part 1/ Let it Grow        Wake of the Flood '73
12/73   [Peggy-O                        -
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/74    Ship of Fools                   Mars Hotel '74
        U.S. Blues                      Mars Hotel '74
        It Must Have Been the Roses     Steal Your Face or Reflections '76
3/74    Scarlet Begonias                Mars Hotel '74
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/75    Crazy Fingers                   Blues for Allah '75
        Help is on the Way/ Slipknot!   Blues for Allah '75
        Franklin's Tower                Blues for Allah '75
8/75    The Music Never Stopped         Blues for Allah '75
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/76    Might as Well                   Reflections '76
        Lazy Lightning                  Kingfish '76
        Supplication                    Kingfish '76
        [Samson & Delilah               Terrapin Station '77
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/77    Estimated Prophet               Terrapin Station '77
        Terrapin Station                Terrapin Station '77
3/77    Fire On The Mountain            Shakedown Street '78
5/77    [Jack-a-Roe                     Reckoning '81
        [Iko Iko                        -
7/77    Passenger                       Terrapin Station '77
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
8/78    [Stagger Lee                    Shakedown Street '78
        I Need a Miracle                Shakedown Street '78
        Shakedown Street                Shakedown Street '78
11/78   [Knockin' on Heaven's Door      Dylan/Dead '89 (Run for the Roses '82)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
8/79    Althea                          Go To Heaven '80
        Lost Sailor                     Go To Heaven '80
        Saint of Circumstance           Go To Heaven '80
11/79   Alabama Getaway                 Go To Heaven '80
12/79   [C.C. Rider                     Dick's Picks V5 '96 (King Biscuit '95)

====================================80s=====================================
3/80    Far From Me                     Go To Heaven '80
        Feel Like a Stranger            Go To Heaven '80
8/80    [Little Red Rooster             Dead Set '81
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
7/81    [Women are Smarter              -
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
8/82    West L.A. Fadeaway              In the Dark '87
9/82    Touch of Grey                   In the Dark '87
        Throwin' Stones                 In the Dark '87
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3/83    My Brother Esau                 In the Dark '87 (cassette only)
5/83    Hell in a Bucket                In the Dark '87
8/83    [Wang Dang Doodle               - 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/84    [Dear Mr. Fantasy               Without a Net '90
11/84   [Gimme Some Lovin'              -
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
12/86   Black Muddy River               In the Dark '87
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/87    [When I Paint My Masterpiece    -
        [All Along the Watchtower       Dylan/Dead '89
7/87    [Memphis Blues Again            -
        [Queen Jane Approximately       Dylan/Dead '89
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/88    Victim or the Crime             Built to Last '89
        Foolish Heart                   Built to Last '89
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/89    Standing on the Moon            Built to Last '89
4/89    Picasso Moon                    Built to Last '89

====================================90s=====================================
2/90    [The Last Time                  -
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2/92    So Many Roads                   -
        Corrina                         -
        Long Way to Go Home             -
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2/93    Lazy River Road                 -
        Eternity                        -
        Liberty                         -
        Days Between                    -
6/93    Easy Answers                    -

===============================Late breaking================================
2/93    [Broken Arrow                   -
3/93    [I Fought the Law               -
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6/94    Samba in the Rain               -
        If the Shoe Fits                -
7/94    Childhood's End                 -
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    re -1
    
    Facinating! 

>                                 -< good data >-

  Btw, all that concert data was gathered using the Poor Man's Deadbase.
  I don't got the real thing.

  (Don't know if that's admirable, pathetic, or what.)

  I'm holding out for the Xth edition.  Yeah, that's the ticket...  - JayC.

  Did you know...
  
  That U.S. Blues debuted at the same show (2/9/73) that introduced...
  Row Jimmy, Loose Lucy, Here Comes Sunshine, They Love Each Other, Eyes of
  the World, and China Doll?  (US Blues was last of 7 new ones.)
  
  Now *that* woulda been some kinda treat.
  
  Surpassed only by the introduction, in one show (2/18/71), of...
  Loser, Greatest Story, Johnny B. Goode, Wharf Rat, and Playing in the
  Band.  [Followed next night by Deal and Bird Song.]  Yowza!

  [This is also by way of saying that U.S. Blues is mislisted in .-3 as
  debuting 2/74;  I missed about 14 entries of 'Wave That Flag', from 2/73
  on, in pmDeadbase.]    - JayC.

    Ummm....the tune on 2/9/73 is Wave That Flag, not U.S. Blues.  Same
    tune, but very different lyrics.
    
    Wish I had been there!
    
    	dave
    

    re;Wish I had been there!
    
    IN DEED! 
    
    last summer i kicked my self in the a** everytime i listened to a tape
    that, if i had REALLY wanted to (and had been a lousier father and
    husband than i already am) I could have made that show....now...i just
    enjoy the sh*t out of the tape.
    
    rfb

    I really love that version of TLEO, then again, I like all versions
    of TLEO ;-)

    /Ken

>    Ummm....the tune on 2/9/73 is Wave That Flag, not U.S. Blues.  Same
>    tune, but very different lyrics.

  Ah...  Thanks for the info.   - JayC.

  Well, now that I'm a proud owner of Deadbase IX...
  
  Here's a "Dead concert staples" list that uses Deadbase IX's dates for
  when each classic was first performed.  It's kind of like, Deadbase's
  list, but filtered an interesting way.
  
  I disagree with their calls in a couple of places but, hey, they're in the
  business, they must have good reasons for what they do/don't call a first
  public appearance of a song...
  
  Where multiple songs debuted the same day, I vary from their practice &
  list in actual order of introduction.
  
  The most impressive mass debuts of originals have to be...
    8/18/70:  Truckin', Ripple, Brokedown Palace
    2/18/71:  Bertha, Loser, Greatest, Wharf Rat, Playin'
    10/19/71: TJed, Jack Straw, Mexicali, Comes a Time, Saturday Night, Ramble
    2/9/73:   Row Jimmy, Loose Lucy, HC Sunshine, TLEO, Eyes, China Doll
    2/22/74:  US Blues (post-Wave), Roses, Ship of Fools
    2/26/77:  Terrapin, Estimated
  JayC.

LIVE STAPLES (by date of 1st appearance, live or album)
============================================================================
Criteria: 60 or more concert performances, with obvious gaps filled in
(Speedway, Ripple, 90s songs).  Covers are marked with [.

Live    Title                           Album (if any)
----    -----                           --------------
1/66    [It's All Over Now Baby Blue    -
2/66    [I Know You Rider               Europe '72
        [Cold Rain & Snow               Grateful Dead '67
3/66    [Beat It On Down the Line       Grateful Dead '67
        [Next Time You See Me           Hundred Year Hall '95
7/66    [Big Boss Man                   GD Skull & Roses '71
        [Dancin' in the Streets         Terrapin Station '77
        [Don't Ease Me In               Go To Heaven '80
        [Minglewood Blues               Grateful Dead '67
10/66   [Walking Blues                  Without a Net '90
11/66   [Smokestack Lightning           Bear's Choice '73
        [Me & My Uncle                  GD Skull & Roses '71
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1/67    [Morning Dew                    Grateful Dead '67
8/67    [Turn on Your Lovelight         Live Dead '69
11/67   The Other One (Quodlibet)       Anthem of the Sun '68
        Cryptical Envelopment           Anthem of the Sun '68
12/67   Dark Star                       Live Dead '69
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1/68    China Cat Sunflower             Aoxomoxoa '69
        The Eleven                      Live Dead '69
6/68    St. Stephen                     Aoxomoxoa '69
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2/69    Dupree's Diamond Blues          Aoxomoxoa '69
3/69    [Hard to Handle                 Bear's Choice '73
5/69    [Good Lovin'                    Shakedown Street '78
6/69    Dire Wolf                       Workingman's Dead '70
        [Mama Tried                     GD Skull & Roses '71
        Casey Jones                     Workingman's Dead '70
        High Time                       Workingman's Dead '70
9/69    [It's All Over Now              -
11/69   Cumberland Blues                Workingman's Dead '70
        Black Peter                     Workingman's Dead '70
        Uncle John's Band               Workingman's Dead '70
        New Speedway Boogie             Workingman's Dead '70
        [Not Fade Away                  GD Skull & Roses '71
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2/70    Friend of the Devil             American Beauty '70
4/70    Candyman                        American Beauty '70
6/70    Sugar Magnolia                  American Beauty '70
        [Big Railroad Blues             GD Skull & Roses '71
7/70    [El Paso                        Steal Your Face '76
        To Lay Me Down                  Garcia '72
8/70    Truckin'                        American Beauty '70
        Ripple                          American Beauty '70
        Brokedown Palace                American Beauty '70
(10/72) Box of Rain                     American Beauty '70 [rel. 11/70]
10/70   [Goin' Down the Road            GD Skull & Roses '71
11/70   [Around & Around                Steal Your Face '76
        [Me & Bobby McGee               GD Skull & Roses '71
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/71    Bertha                          GD Skull & Roses '71
        Loser                           Garcia '72
        Greatest Story Ever Told        Ace '72
        [Johnny B. Goode                GD Skull & Roses '71
        Wharf Rat                       GD Skull & Roses '71
        Playin' in the Band             GD Skull & Roses '71
        Bird Song                       Garcia '72
        Deal                            Garcia '72
5/71    [Promised Land                  Steal Your Face '76
7/71    Sugaree                         Garcia '72
(6/76)  The Wheel                       Garcia '72 [rel. 1/72]
8/71    Brown Eyed Women                Europe '72
10/71   Tennessee Jed                   Europe '72
        Jack Straw                      Europe '72
        Mexicali Blues                  Ace '72
        Comes a Time                    Reflections '76
        One More Saturday Night         Ace '72
        Ramble on Rose                  Europe '72
12/71   [Big River                      Steal Your Face '76
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3/72    Black Throated Wind             Ace '72
        Looks Like Rain                 Ace '72
(3/74)  Cassidy                         Ace '72 [rel. 5/72]
4/72    He's Gone                       Europe '72
6/72    Stella Blue                     Wake of the Flood '73
7/72    Mississippi Half-Step           Wake of the Flood '73
11/72   WRS: Prelude                    Wake of the Flood '73
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2/73    Row Jimmy                       Wake of the Flood '73
        Loose Lucy                      Mars Hotel '74
        Here Comes Sunshine             Wake of the Flood '73
        They Love Each Other            Reflections '76
        Eyes of the World               Wake of the Flood '73
        China Doll                      Mars Hotel '74
9/73    Let it Grow (WRS: Part 2)       Wake of the Flood '73
        WRS: Part 1                     Wake of the Flood '73
12/73   [Peggy-O                        -
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2/74    U.S. Blues                      Mars Hotel '74
        It Must Have Been the Roses     Reflections '76
        Ship of Fools                   Mars Hotel '74
3/74    Scarlet Begonias                Mars Hotel '74
6/74    Slipknot!                       Blues for Allah '75
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6/75    Crazy Fingers                   Blues for Allah '75
        Help on the Way                 Blues for Allah '75
        Franklin's Tower                Blues for Allah '75
8/75    The Music Never Stopped         Blues for Allah '75
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/76    Might as Well                   Reflections '76
        Lazy Lightning                  Kingfish '76
        Supplication                    Kingfish '76
        [Samson & Delilah               Terrapin Station '77
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2/77    Terrapin Station                Terrapin Station '77
        Estimated Prophet               Terrapin Station '77
3/77    Fire On The Mountain            Shakedown Street '78
5/77    [Jack A Roe                     Reckoning '81
        Passenger                       Terrapin Station '77
        [Iko Iko                        -
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8/78    [Stagger Lee                    Shakedown Street '78
        I Need a Miracle                Shakedown Street '78
        Shakedown Street                Shakedown Street '78
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8/79    Althea                          Go To Heaven '80
        Lost Sailor                     Go To Heaven '80
        Saint of Circumstance           Go To Heaven '80
11/79   Alabama Getaway                 Go To Heaven '80
12/79   [C.C. Rider                     Dick's Picks V5 '96 (King Biscuit '95)

====================================80s=====================================
3/80    Far From Me                     Go To Heaven '80
        Feel Like a Stranger            Go To Heaven '80
8/80    [Little Red Rooster             Dead Set '81
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7/81    [Woman Smarter                  -
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8/82    West L.A. Fadeaway              In the Dark '87
9/82    Touch of Grey                   In the Dark '87
        Throwing Stones                 In the Dark '87
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3/83    My Brother Esau                 In the Dark '87 (cassette only)
5/83    Hell in a Bucket                In the Dark '87
8/83    [Wang Dang Doodle               - 
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6/84    [Dear Mr. Fantasy               Without a Net '90
11/84   [Gimme Some Lovin'              -
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12/86   Black Muddy River               In the Dark '87
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6/87    [When I Paint My Masterpiece    -
        [All Along the Watchtower       Dylan/Dead '89
7/87    [Memphis Blues Again            -
        [Queen Jane Approximately       Dylan/Dead '89
        [Knockin' on Heaven's Door      Dylan/Dead '89 (Run for the Roses '82)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/88    Victim or the Crime             Built to Last '89
        Foolish Heart                   Built to Last '89
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2/89    Standing on the Moon            Built to Last '89
4/89    Picasso Moon                    Built to Last '89

====================================90s=====================================
2/90    [The Last Time                  -
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2/92    So Many Roads                   -
        Way to Go Home                  -
        Corrina                         -
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2/93    Lazy River Road                 -
        Eternity                        -
        Liberty                         -
        Days Between                    -
        [Broken Arrow                   -
3/93    [I Fought the Law               -
6/93    Easy Answers                    -
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6/94    Samba in the Rain               -
        If the Shoe Fits                -
7/94    Childhood's End                 -
============================================================================

    Coming September 17, 1996 from Arista
    GRATEFUL DEAD 1977 - 1995
    
    Here's the text from the sell sheet:
    
    THE ONLY COMPLETE RETROSPECTIVE OF THE DEAD'S 30 YEAR CAREER!
    The selections on these 2 CDs/Cassettes span the Grateful Dead's best 
    recordings from 1977 - 1995, from the classic GOLD studio albums
    Terrapin Station, Shakedown Street, Go To Heaven, Built To Last and the 
    DOUBLE PLATINUM In The Dark, as well as the essential concert albums 
    Reckoning, Dead Set and  the GOLD Without A Net which contain live 
    recordings of their earlier classics.
    
    The album package features new original artwork and extensive liner
    notes. The best of the Grateful Dead from the years 1977 - 1995 has been 
    digitally remastered to HDCD from the original master recordings.
    
    DISC 1:
    Estimated Prophet
    Passenger
    Samson & Delilah
    Terrapin Station
    Good Lovin
    Shakedown Street
    Fire On The Mountain
    I Need A Miracle
    Alabama Getaway
    Far From Me
    Saint Of Circumstance
    Dire Wolf (live)
    Cassidy (live)
    Feel Like A Stranger (live)
    Franklin's Tower (live)
    
    DISC 2:
    Touch Of Grey
    Hell In A Bucket
    West LA Fade Away
    Throwing Stones
    Black Muddy River
    Foolish Heart
    Built To Last
    Just A little Light
    Picasso Moon
    Standing On The Moon
    Eyes Of The World (live)
    
    List Price: $24.95 / $15.98
    Selection #: 07822 - 18934 - 2/4
    

    it was only a matter of time....I'm still waitin for Phils STuff, but
    will most likely get this too..
    
    had to be in a liquor store yesterday, one that I don't usually
    frequent (read:don't have a tab there) and finally saw the Dead Red
    Unwine...non-alcoholic red wine ina dark bottle witha  stealie on the
    label...had to buy that too....but it'll stay on the shelf as i don't
    like wine and it's non-alcoholic. 15.00$
    
    rfb

  Yeah, I stumbled on the 'Dead Red' "dealcoholized red table wine" and
  picked up a bottle.  ($13 in Lexington.)
  
  I tried it -- I'd guess even folks into non-alc wine would need a chaser
  for this (has just enough in common with both grape juice and wine to be
  neither).  IMO.  I'd be interested what an experienced drinker of non-alc
  beer & wine would say.

  For folks who haven't seen it yet, mine had the Stealie label; forthcoming
  "limited editions" will have skull & roses, dancing skels, skel & roses,
  and space your face labels.  (Would've preferred skull & roses for my one
  & only, but was too curious to wait...)  - JayC.

  As for the Arista compilation...  Seems not bad for what it is.  Cut
  selection seems generally OK, but...  With cuts like Far From Me and Just
  a Little Light included, you'd think they coulda found room for the likes
  of Althea...?  Victim or the Crime...?
  
  Probably plays pretty well as is, though.  - JayC.

    I've got a gd beer-label someone sent me, anyone ever seen that?

    definitely would take the althea over any of the other 3 mentioned

	pipe down, punk.
	
	i *like* victim! the 1 on w/o annette is Xcellent!
	

    
    Yeah, but Althea is one of my favorites, and the studio version is
    quite good.....
    
    Arista mentioned "30 year span"......hello?  They were with Arista for
    18 years, so this is not a complete collection of the Dead, just a
    collection of Dead sold by Arista.
    
    Hogan

            <<< Note 38.331 by MKOTS3::JOLLIMORE "Always a hoot!" >>>

>	pipe down, punk.
haha!

:)

As for Arista - this is the 2nd thing they;ve done as a box.  They put out
a 6cd (all of the disks on arista up to an including t-o-g) special limited
edition box just after t-o-g was released.  no extras.  no bonus tracks..
a nice book and box though.

	

>Yeah, but Althea is one of my favorites, and the studio version is
>quite good.....

	yeah, i like both songs. (and, both are on w/o annette.)
	
	i was just repying to hairball's "victim is the slime" comment.
	
	;-)
	

2cd box? 6cd box?  They probably meant to say 30 year Spam. ;-)

>    Arista mentioned "30 year span"......hello?  They were with Arista for
>    18 years, so this is not a complete collection of the Dead, just a
>    collection of Dead sold by Arista.

  Well, you just aren't thinking like an Arista executive (or future Digital
  VP)...
  
  The PR copy claims the cuts "span the Grateful Dead's best recordings from
  1977 - 1995, ...  as well as the essential concert albums...  which
  contain live recordings of their earlier classics."

  Looking to the live cuts...  Dire Wolf, Cassidy, Feel Like A Stranger,
  Franklin's Tower, & Eyes Of The World.  There's your Arista's-eye view of
  the Dead first decade.
  
  Dark Star, The Other One, et al, musta just missed the cut.  8)  - JayC.

    stranger was on an arista release wasn't it?

    Yawn.  Gimme Dick's Picks.  Screw Arista.
    
    	dave
    

    
    Agreed on Victim!
    
    Nearly have to go to the med tent in Oxford ME during Victim.

>    Yawn.  Gimme Dick's Picks.  Screw Arista.

Hear hear!  I got DP III ('77 show) and DP V ('79 show) about a week ago
to complete my DP collection, and they are really good, even the '77 show ;-)
The '79 Oakland show is *incredible*!! Gotta love that Estimated, the jam 
afterwards, and the Caution jam!  Among the rest...

Speaking of new discs, I also picked up the Butthole Surfers Electric Larryland.
Surprisingly good stuff on there, especially the psychedlic tunes, some of
which sound a LOT like old Country Joe and the Fish!

/Ken

    Another vote for that Electric Larryland disc--tis good heavy stuff
    with lots of Quicksilver/CJ Fish riffs on a lot of tunes. Cross a
    couple of them with Beck's "Loser" and you get the idea;-)
    
    Can't believe these guys are being played on BCN these days. Ten
    years ago you couldn't even get FNX to play em. They also do an
    extremely outrageous cover of "American Woman" originally done by
    the Guess Who.

>    stranger was on an arista release wasn't it?

  Yeah, I was just following through the literal interpretation of the PR
  copy's big lie...
  
  Looking forward to DP 6 and the Phil package of 90s stuff, myself.

  Too bad Hunter & Garcia never got to follow through on that phone call
  transcribed in Hunter's journal though.  - JayC.

    re;
    Too bad Hunter & Garcia never got to follow through on that phone call
    
    
    can say that again, brother. sigh
    
    rfb

  P.S.  It is interesting how the Butthole S*rfers are developing...
  I remember when the Phoenix would only print their name as BH Surfers.

  I remember the "Hairway to Steven" CD, which up 'til the new one seemed
  their most accessible and wide ranging.  Kinda like Pet Sounds lyricality
  crossed with Hendrix and other quotes of rock-band sounds.
  
  I remember "name" alt. acts they opened for (that the younger majority of
  the crowds had come to see) paling in comparison.

  I remember them canvassing from the stage for 12-year-old girls to come
  backstage after the show and, for the benefit of their accompanying
  parental units, explicit descriptions of planned sexual acts...

  After which concert I decided the schtick/music ratio had reached some
  threshold (for me), and haven't listened a lot since.  Probably will give
  "Electric Larryland" a listen though.   - JayC.

I just found out that a new Jerry album will be out April 15th: "How Sweet
It Is".

Anyone know what it's about?

adam

yes, its a chronicle of Jerry's addiction to Hagen-Daz.

> Anyone know what it's about?

  I believe it's a 2nd collection culled from the same recording dates as
  the (much-liked in here) "Jerry Garcia Band" release.    - JayC

    Adam - check out note 151.243
    
    >>I just found out that a new Jerry album will be out April 15th: "How
    >>Sweet
    >>It Is".
    
    >>Anyone know what it's about?
    
    >>adam
    

There's a second Reggae disk out - volume 2.  A compilation of
reggae bands covering Dead Tunes.  

Same people who brought you the last one....

fyi

      ...and if you like reggae music, "Fire on the Mt. 2 is very, very
    enjoyable..!!     Covers include: Truckin', Althea, Sugar Mag, Toots
    doing Lovelight, Shakedown, Birdsong, Wheel, If I had the world to
    give,  Stop that train, and another version of Chalice doing Fire on
    the Mt....plus 3 or 4 more songs...:-)
    
                     
    
    

    who else is on this one besides toots and chalice?

Gregory Isaacs does a nice cover of Sugaree.

This Vol 2, at the first couple of listens, appears to be better than the
last one.  There wasn't much interpretation of the Dead songs on the last
one, just straight ahead covers.  This one seems to have a bit more 
interpretation.  

Marcia Griffiths, Wailers...I forget who else...

bob

    sounds cool
    
    
    Sugaree done by the Cool Ruler himself.............gonna get it aftah
    work today