Conference rdvax::grateful

	cross posted from GRATEFUL_OLD...

For those of you going to Nick's tonight here are some things to remember 
because the place is easy to miss.

	Nick's is less than a mile into North Uxbridge (going south on 122)

	It is on the right, fairly hidden with an entrance and parking in
	the back.  A road comes out behind it and forks with 122.  At this
	fork there is a gas station at which there is a PEPSI sign (it also
	says Mr. Bills).  Across the street and just before this sign is
	a sign saying "Hellen's" something or other.....

	There is a sign for Nicks but it is a black tent sign out front,
	nothing lit up.

	It is north of the intersection with 16.

See you there,

Lisa

Directions to Nick's Cafe coming from Route 495.

Take 495 (south from the Mass Pike and points North) to route 85(to 16) 
Milford. Take a right at the end of the exit and then another right when you 
come to the end of route 85. You will now be on route 16. Follow for about 10 
miles into Uxbridge center. Take a right on to route 122 and follow for about 
1 mile. Nicks will be on your left. There is a fork in the road and a sign 
that sais "Mr Bills". nick's is accross from Helen Fuels.

Show time is approximately 9:00pm

Geoff

             <<< CSCMA::$1$DUA18:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GRATEFUL.NOTE;1 >>>
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    from I-290 coming into worcester from the east you want exit 13
    for kelly square...  take a right off the ramp into kelly square
    alias the intersection from hell...  as you proceed with GRATE caution
    through the intersection you are looking for Green Street on the
    right...  should be the second right turn out of the square... 
    i believe there is a MERIT gas station on the corner...  Sir Morgans
    is on the left...
    
    coming into worcester from the west you want the Brosnihan square
    rt 146 exit...  when you come off the ramp go left under 290...
    take your first right immediately after passing under the highway
    onto Millbury sreet...  follow Millbury St. to the aforementioned
    intersection from hell...
    
    please feel free to offer alternatives or corrections...
    
    				da ve

Since Chris will be coming from the south/west I'm not sure how useful those
direx will be for him.

For him (and I) the way to get to Clinton would be via Rt. 62, which can be
reached from 290 via 140 North I think.  Or just start from the Rt. 62 West
exit of 495, although, from Worcester, you'd be doing a lot of back-tracking.

What I do know is, once you arrive on Main St. in Clinton (coming from the
south), pass City Hall Music on the left, then, at the light, turn right onto
Water Street.  Branch Street is a right hand turn about 1/4 mile up the road.

c u,

adam

Re:                    <<< Note 84.71 by ENGINE::MOLLENHAUER >>>

>    What I need to know is how does one get to Milford, NH, about how long
>    will it take from Maynard, what is the Whitehorse like, what is the
>    cover, what time will they start and any other information that might 
>    be useful.

	Quick data - from my house in Hudson MA, very near the junction
	of Route 62 and I-495, it's 46 miles and 55 minutes to the
	White Horse.

	There are several ways - here's one:

	I-495 north to Route 119 west through Pepperel and Groton

	to Route 13 North into New Hampshire (watch your speed on this
	road!)

	Route 13 to Route 101 *East* for about 1 mile,

	To Route 101A *West*

	White Horse is on the right after about 1 mile.

	Comment - a *great* place to see Slipknot!  Other than being a 
	decent sized place with room to sit and room to dance and
	reasonalby priced Sam Adams on tap is that I always get to
	see a bunch of great DECheads, for example, Jim Henderson and
	Carol Roberts and John Shep and Randy Switts brother and Bob
	Hapgood and Rea and Tom Spine and ... and ... and ...
	and ...  Please, no offense to anyone I didn't mention!

	I've considering going Saturday night...

	Bob

Directions to Jack's Cafe coming from Route 495.

Take 495 (south from the Mass Pike and points North) to route 85(to 16) 
Milford. Take a right at the end of the exit and then another right when you 
come to the end of route 85. You will now be on route 16. Follow for about 10 
miles into Uxbridge center. Take a right at the alley just before the 
stoplight in Uxbridge center and you are there. 

Geoff

Sorry, i was out friday afternoon.

From the Cape...

Take 495N to rte 85/16 toward Milford, continue on 16 through Uxbridge.  
about 2 miles after the center of Uxbridge look for signs to the Uxbridge 
F&G.  Take a left (toward the F&G).  The Whitensville F&G is approximately 
1 mile after the Uxbridge F&G.

From WORCESTER AREA...

Take 146 South to Rte 16S (Uxbridge/Douglas). Take a right at the end of 
the exit, after approx. 1 mile you'll see signs for the Uxbridge F&G.  Take 
a left on this road.  The Whitensville F&G is about 1 mile past the 
Uxbridge F&G

Hope this helps,

Geoff

    I do believe directions to the Plantation Club are in here already.
    Take Rte. 9 west into Worcester. At the lights half way up the hill 
    turn left, it'a about a mile & a half up the street on your right, 
    looks like a resturant with that yellow marquie. 
    
    	I wish I could make it, but other family obligations have me
    occupied for the next several days. 
    
    	Have fun for me (Obviously)
    Geoff

    
    the plantation club is on plantation st in worcester...  i'm sure there
    are better direx in here somewhere but:
    
    from I290 heading east, get off on the plantation st exit and take a
    right...  cross rt 9 at umass med center and contimue on plantation...
    the club is up a ways on the right...
    
    rom I290 heading west, take the main st shrewsbury exit...  bear right
    at bottom of ramp...  at first light take left onto plantation st... 
    continue on plantation across rt 9 at umass...  continue up plantation
    and clubis on right...
    
    					da ve

SLIPKNOT
--------
August 1994
------------
08/26  The Plantation Club, 151 Plantation St, Worc., MA 21+ 9:45
	(508) 752-4666

September 1994
--------------
09/09  Bowler's, Prospect St., Worcester, MA - 21+, 9:00pm
09/10  The Lynnwood Grill, 69 Kilmarnock St., Boston, MA - 21+, 9:30 
	(617)267-8644
09/24	The East Coast Oyster Bar, Rte 9 Framingham, MA - 21+, 9:30,
	(508) 872-4780 
09/27	The Beanpot, 150 Canal St., Boston, MA - 21+, 10:00, (617) 722-9321 
09/28	The Beanpot, 150 Canal St., Boston, MA - 21+, 10:00, (617) 722-9321 
09/29	The Beanpot, 150 Canal St., Boston, MA - 21+, 10:00, (617) 722-9321 

October 1994
------------
10/06  Harper's Ferry, 158 Brighton Ave, Allston, MA - 21+, 9:45 (617)254-9743
10/07  The Stone Church, Church St., Newmarket, NH - 21+, 9:30 (603)659-6321
10/08  The Wong Dynasty, Resevoir St., Holden, MA - 21+, 9:30
10/14  The Plantation Club, 151 Plantation St, Worc., MA 21+ 9:45
	(508) 752-4666

SLIPKNOT
--------

October 1994
------------
10/14  The Plantation Club, 151 Plantation St, Worc., MA 21+ 9:45
	(508) 752-4666
	- HOUSE SOUND - Tee

November 1994
-------------
11/04  East Coast Oyster Bar, 700 Worcester Rd, Framingham - 21+ 9:30
	(508) 872-4780
11/05  Sir Morgan's Cove, 89 Green St., Worcester, MA - 21+, 9:45
	(508) 753-2188
11/11  The Plantation Club, 151 Plantation St, Worc., MA 21+ 9:45
	(508) 752-4666
11/12  The Lynnwood Grille 69 Kilmarnock St., Boston -- 21+ 9:45

December 1994
-------------
12/02  The Whitehorse Inn, Rte 101A, Milford, NH -- 21+, 9:30 (603) 673-9831
12/03  The Wong Dynasty, Reservoir St, Holden, MA - 21+, 9:30 
12/09  East Coast Oyster Bar, 700 Worcester Rd, Framingham - 21+ 9:30
	(508) 872-4780
12/10  The Stone Church, Church St., Newmarket, NH -- 21+, 9:45 (603) 659-6321
12/16  The Lynnwood Grille, 69 Kilmarnock St. Boston -- 21+, 9:45
12/17  Sir Morgan's Cove, 89 Green St, Worcester, MA 21+ 9:45 (508) 753-2188
12/31  The Plantation Club, 151 Plantation St, Worc., MA 21+ 9:45
	(508) 752-4666

January 1995
------------
01/06	The Sunday River Brewing Co., Rte 2, Bethel, ME  -- 21+ (207) 824-4253
01/07	The Sunday River Brewing Co., Rte 2, Bethel, ME  -- 21+ (207) 824-4253

SLIPKNOT
--------

December 1994
-------------
12/02  The Whitehorse Inn, Rte 101A, Milford, NH -- 21+, 9:30 (603) 673-9831
12/03  The Wong Dynasty, Reservoir St, Holden, MA - 21+, 9:30 
12/09  East Coast Oyster Bar, 700 Worcester Rd, Framingham - 21+ 9:30
	(508) 872-4780
12/10  The Stone Church, Church St., Newmarket, NH -- 21+, 9:45 (603) 659-6321
12/16  The Lynnwood Grille, 69 Kilmarnock St. Boston -- 21+, 9:45
12/17  Sir Morgan's Cove, 89 Green St, Worcester, MA 21+ 9:45 (508) 753-2188
12/31  The Plantation Club, 151 Plantation St, Worc., MA 21+ 9:45
	(508) 752-4666

January 1995
------------
01/06	The Sunday River Brewing Co., Rt 2, Bethel, ME -- 21+ 9:30
	(207)-824-4253
01/07	The Sunday River Brewing Co., Rt 2, Bethel, ME -- 21+ 9:30
	(207)-824-4253


These will be Slipknot's last shows until March of 1995.  We are taking a 
couple of months off to do some recording for a CD of all original music 
that we hope to have out by Mid summer 1995.

As always for last minute updates, changes and directions please call the 
Knotline (508) 234-4126

Thank you all for your support of Slipknot over the past year.  We hope 
that everyone has a safe and happy holiday season and we wish each and 
every one of you the best for the rest of 1994 and an even better 1995.

Peace to all,

Slipknot

  <<< Note 84.14 by ASLAN::GKELLER "Congressional Gridlick is a good thing" >>>
                   -< Slipknot December 1994 - January 1995 >-

>12/09  East Coast Oyster Bar, 700 Worcester Rd, Framingham - 21+ 9:30
>	(508) 872-4780


anyone going?

Pre-psyche at Adam's?

directions??????

what is this place like?  good brews???

    This place is on the eastbound side of Route 9.  Just a bit west of
    where Rte 126 crosses.  Accross the road from the new Walgreens.
    
    I drive past it every morning.
    
    I dunno what it's like inside.  Used to be a Tony Romas.  They've had
    signs up advertising their "Rush Room". :-(
    
    
    	dave
    

    not a bad room, good beer on tap (sam adams i think) and Ive been told
    the food is good too (seafood esp)....

    "rush room"???  as in Limbaugh, or that feeling you get when indulging
    in recreational stuff that causes the head to spin???
    
    					da ve

Yes, I and my S.O. are going.  Its a nice place, JC, nice nautical 
ambience.  Good sized dance floor with a (relatively) high ceiling.
Tables in the bar room overlook the dance floor.  Last time the 'Knot
played there, the power went out (or was that the time before), and
Larry's stack fell over in the middle of a jam.   I'll be there around 9:30.

Josh

    Rush room does likely refer to Rush Limbaugh.  Saw an article last year
    sometime about how some restaurants and such were setting up 
    Rush rooms so the "DittoHeads" could all gather and listen/watch
    Rush together. How cute!  Sigh....  I can't take more than about 
    a minute of the guy before he says something that really infuriates
    me and I continue my channel surfing.
    
    PeterT
    

    
    I think I might be KNOT going tonight.  I've got to hook up with
    some folks early but I'd like to try and swing by later.
    
    	

    Slipknot this Saturday at Sir Morgan's Cove in Worcester....this show,
    New Years Eve izit for "local" shows (2 in Maine in January) until
    March '95....
    
    who's goin' ???
    
    WO

    not sure, but i'm guessing Rochelle and i will be there...
    
    					da ve

Can someone post direx to Sir Morgan'c Cove?
If I hadda chose between the Cove (Sat) and Lynnwood Grille in Boston (Friday),
which would be a better place (atmosphere, sound, the crowd) to see 'em?
(the Cove?)

thanks, Josh

>         <<< Note 84.24 by QUOIN::BELKIN "one...3...5...7..8..9.10!" >>>
>Can someone post direx to Sir Morgan'c Cove?

 Keyword              Note
 DIR_TO_SIR_MORGANS_C 84.3

    yeah most of the directions to Slipknot venues are posted in the
    begining of this note....check them out ! and if you notice one or two
    missing and you feel like getting us lost please post directions to
    other venues that Slipknot play at....it would be very helpful...
    
    now with that allsaid...Jen and I will not be going Saturday :'(
    
    Chris

I'll be at the Cove.  Haven't been there since Jan. 29.

adam

does one need to make a reservation for NYE 'knot show?
i didn't know they were playin' 'til someone mentioned it...

brain dead and still at work_JC

>              <<< Note 84.28 by BIODTL::JC "don't criticize it" >>>
>
>does one need to make a reservation for NYE 'knot show?
>i didn't know they were playin' 'til someone mentioned it...
>
>brain dead and still at work_JC


Nope, no reservations necessary or accepted.  The plantation Club holds 
about 225 or 250 so there shouldn't be any problems if you get there before 
10:00 or 10:30.

Also, we had our arms twisted and we do have one other show in January 
besides the Sunday River thing.  We'll be playing at Harper's Ferry in 
Allston on Thursday the 12th of January.

Geoff

    
    Anybody getting a place in Bethel 6th and 7th? Room for more?
    
    Any suggestions?
    
    Cath

Hey Geoff,

Wasn't there some sort of package available for Sunday River
over the weekend of the 6th?  I vaguely remember something
being posted here about it, but I can't find it....

tim

>         <<< Note 84.31 by LASSIE::TRAMP::GRADY "Stop The Violins." >>>
>
>Hey Geoff,
>
>Wasn't there some sort of package available for Sunday River
>over the weekend of the 6th?  I vaguely remember something
>being posted here about it, but I can't find it....
>
>tim


Yes they have a $70/night ski and stay package.  If you stay 3 or more 
nights the 3rd night and after are $55/night ski and stay.

Or something like that.  Call the mountain to be sure.

FYI THey got over a foot of snow yesterday and more is expected today.

Geoff_who_can't_wait_to_ski_sunday_river_thursday_friday_and_saturday_!!!

    Hey Geoff -
      Was'nt there another January show in Boston? I know you posted
     it somewhere, but I could'nt locate it?
    
     Cath
    
     

Yes, they're playing at Harper's Ferry on Thursday the 12th.  Gotta check it
out and see the refurnished Ferry.

adam

    So ah, Where was everybody this weekend??? The only other noter we ran
    into was Geoff K. Sean O'Conner was there with Noreen but we didn't se
    them skiing. Mike Rosen and Mark Eklof were there, but they were with
    us so I knew they would be. I saw Cathy Sloan across the bar, but never
    on ski. 
    	So for all you skiers out there, you missed a great weekend of no
    crowds, not waiting and great skiing! Snowless Mogul Field blues???
    Not this weekend. Oh man, we were rippin' through the snow. Many bump
    lines to be had and plenty of soft stuff to make new bumps. There was a
    concentration of people on Risky BUsiness, but otherwise most of the
    mountain was free of crowds. We skied T2, Airglow, Some other trails I
    can't name, Downdraft (??), and decided that the conditions on the
    black trails were the best of the very good conditions at the mountain. 
    	Robyn and I ran into Geoff and John B. while on the slopes, but
    nobody else while skiing. The knot shows in the evening were a great
    way to do Apres ski, but by Saturday night I couldn't move to dance ant
    the end of the first set.  But the skiing was fantastic!!!! It was a
    really fun day!! I just can't express how good the skiing was awesomely
    quick my skis and boots were from edge to edge. 
    	The only thing I don't understand is why there weren't more DEChead
    skiers on hand? It was such a great time to ski!
    
    	Grate Skiing!!!!!
    	Geoff 

Geoff, how was the skiing?
:-)

>              <<< Note 84.36 by BIODTL::JC "don't criticize it" >>>
>
>Geoff, how was the skiing?
>:-)

Awesome!!!

Geoff

Uh...actually I got this last minute alternative offer 
to spend NYE in the French Quarter and I couldn't turn
it down...so once again I missed the annual Slipknot
ski bash.  Sigh.  Maybe I can catch the Harper's gig
before the sabbatical...

tim

    yer an alternative kind a guy, Tim..... %^)
    
    
    BTW, had a grate time with you when you were out here..too bad it was
    only for lunch...and THANKS BIG TIME for the BG tapes!!!!!!!!they are
    some of the best I've ever heard from the garden (never been there). 
    
    rfb

After many months of inner deliberation, I have decided that I must resign 
from Slipknot as their manager.  As of Tuesday January 10 I am no longer a 
member of Slipknot.

This was a very hard decision for me because I love what I do.  However, I 
need to spend more time and energy with my family and my "real job" and 
cannot devote the energy required to help Slipknot keep on growing.

Everyone in the band was very understanding and I have an open invitation 
to return should I ever want to.

I thought you folks might be interested to hear this.  Don't worry, you'll 
still see Pam and me at shows once in awhile (I still have my all access 
pass), however I won't be running around like a chicken with my head cut 
off, I'll be completely enjoying the music and not worrying about the 
details (Yeah right, I wouldn't know what to do at a show if I wasn't 
working:-))

Geoff

    Geoff,
    
    I'm sorry to hear that...it's obvious that your efforts have gone
    far in the promotion of the band as the number, size and significance
    of the local venues has grown, not to mention the size of the crowds. 
    I'm sure they'll miss your contributions greatly.
    
>I'll be completely enjoying the music and not worrying about the 
>details (Yeah right, I wouldn't know what to do at a show if I wasn't 
>working:-))
    
    Well, don't just stand there....dance! ;-)
    
    tim
    

    not sure if congratulations are quite the right thing but i've got to
    say SOMETHING... :^)  congrats on getting to spend more time with the
    family? :^)
    
    thanks is probably better...  i know the band appreciates the time
    and effort that you've put in over the years, and i cetainly do as
    well!  it's a lot of work when you take on a project like that...
    
    				da ve

    Sounds like a good choice on the priority side, Geoff.  I'm sure you
    will be missed as manager.  But sounds like we'll see you on the
    dance floor more often!!!  Excellent ..
    
    carol
    

tough decision no doubt!! i'll miss the personal greeting at the door...
see ya at the showz

    Any rumor on the next gig?  I had heard from one of the band members
    (Mark, I think) that they were booked at the Lynwood on 2/10 or 2/11 -
    can anyone confirm that?
    
    I'm making plans for that weekend, and it'd be quite fun to do some
    dancing..
    
    tim
    

>    (Mark, I think) that they were booked at the Lynwood on 2/10 or 2/11 -

Since Slipknot is (sorta) on hiatus, would this be like when the Dead 
showed up in '75 to play the SNACK benefit?

Josh

Slipknot is at the Lynnwood on 2/10/95.  They are at the Plantation on 3/3/
95 and at Harper's on 3/9/95...

That is all that is scheduled for now.

Geoff

Direx to the Lynwood please?  Its not in the low-numbered replied to this
note.

thx, Josh

>        <<< Note 84.48 by NOKNOK::BELKIN "one...3...5...7..8..9.10!" >>>
>                                  -< direx? >-
>
>Direx to the Lynwood please?  Its not in the low-numbered replied to this
>note.
>
>thx, Josh

From Lowell/Andover -- Take 93 South to Storrow Drive Outbound.  Get off on 
the Fenway Exit and get onto Boyleston St. Outbound.  Go about 5 blocks and 
look for Bruger King on your Left.  Turn onto Kilmarnock St immediately 
after BK (If you go past Star Market you've gone to far).  Go through the 
1st intersection on Kilmarnock St and the Lynnwood is right there.  They 
have parking behind the building.

Geoff  

thanks!

>1st intersection on Kilmarnock St and the Lynnwood is right there.  They 
>have parking behind the building.

Slipknot shows always have convienent nearby parking lots! :-)

who's up for going tonight?  I'm not, gonna be mellow at home.

    
    I'll be going. DC is going too.  
    
    
    
    

I won't be at !Slip, 'cuz I'm going to Ithaca, NY this weekend to:
    1) drink lots of beer
    2) eat lots of Buffalo Wings
    3) do stupid things
    4) watch a hockey game
    5) get suckered into giving my fraternity money
    6) and regret all of the above :-)

- jeff

                          -< Slipknot through March >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>They are at the Plantation on 3/3/95 and at Harper's on 3/9/95...
    
    So, NE1 planning on going to either of these showz ???
    
    Wes

    Well, predictably enough, I'm ready for the Plantation Club...;-)

	i've never been to the plantation. seems like a good time to
	change that. i need a SlipFix(tm)

    Rochelle and i will most likely appear at the plantation club...
    
    					da ve

    I RILLY need a slipfix...but Im not sure yet....50/50 as of right now !

    yeah, I think we're waffling also...

I might be able to go to Harpers on the 9th...sort of thinking about seeing
the Candles that night, though.

	dave

    It's close to home, but Megann is having her Birthday party tomorrow
    night  and that's not really something we could get a babysitter for. 
    So that's where Robyn and I will be when you're looking for us at the
    show. 
    	BUt, We saw GerryG last night and it sounds like he'll be there
    
    Geoff

Hmm... tempting, but I haven't gone telemarking ONCE yet this season
(I'd gone like 8 times by this time last year), so I think I'm gonna scrape
myself together, goto bed early on Friday, and go to Sunapee on Sat.

Josh

Hey Josh, you can still make the first set. 

	Ans only going as far north as Sunnapee you might even be able to 
make half the second. 

	I've lost count of how much we skied by this time last year. But these
days I'm getting pretty anxious to get into May

    Well, I had posted a note asking about upcoming Slipknot shows, and
    then went home to find this:
    
    Friday, April 7th,	Charles Minney VFW Post, 16 Main St. Milbury, Ma.
    			(off route 146)  9pm
    
    Saturday, April 8th	The Wong Dynasty, Rt 35, Holden, Ma. 9pm
    
    Friday, May 12th 	The Linwood Grille, Kilmarnock St. Boston, Ma, 9:30pm
    
    Saturday, May 13th, The Wong Dynasty, Rt 35, Holden, Ma. 9pm
    
    Saturday, May 27th, Slip Into Summer NEW LOCATION at the Marlboro Fish
    			and Game (off Rt. 20) with special guests Jiggle
    			the Creek featuring Mark Mercier and Greg Vasso
    			(from Max Creek) another band to be named later
    			and other surprises.  2-10pm ALL Ages, Food and
    			Drink available or bring a picnic.  Coolers welcome
    			but please no bottles or cans.  RAIN OR SHINE.
    
    Friday, June 2nd	The Plantation Club, Worcester Ma - 9:30pm
    
    New Knotline: 617-625-5294
    

    
    Where is Holden in relation to the MRO area.  Isn't that where that 
    Dick Hurtz is from?
    
    	Mark
    

    i think i twisted a muscle after reading that one..
    reminds me of bart calling Moe's
    "Is there an Al Kaholic in the bar?"

>    Where is Holden in relation to the MRO area.  Isn't that where that 
>    Dick Hurtz is from?
    
    Have you been talking with Mystery?  Sounds like one of his old
    jokes...real old..;-)
    
    Holden is just north on I-190 (and other routes) from Worcester...
    
    tim
    

    they must be holdin their own in Holden, eh?

    
    Get a grip on yerself rfb. we don't need no stinkin puns

    >Get a grip on yerself rfb
    
    
    WHAT!!!!!???!!!

    
    
    Must be all them HERBS you been drink'n!
    
     Divide Dave

    re .64
    
    >Saturday, May 27th, Slip Into Summer NEW LOCATION at the Marlboro Fish
    >			and Game (off Rt. 20) with special guests Jiggle
    
    Is it the Marlboro F&G that has the new location? I thought last year's
    venue, off rte 290, was the MROF&G. I'm sending info to a few friends
    and I don't want to appear more organizationally handicapped than I
    already am.
    
    While on that subject, are there directions online to MROF&G:TNG, or is
    it a case of "just keep bearing left, ya can't miss it".
    
    gary

Previous SIS's have been at the NORTHBORO Fish and Game.  Which in and of
itself is not too far from Rte 20.  Those damn BORO towns are throwing us
off.

PeterT

    Marlboro fish and game is a new location...
    
    last year was northboro, off 290 and Solomon pond Road...  the Marlboro
    f&g is nearer to rt 20, but i can't post direx (i could find it myself
    but i'd get you lost :^)...
    
    				da ve

    
    Anyone have directions to SIS ?
    
    thanks,
    Cathy

    
    I think it's right off of Boundary Rd in Marlboro (road next
    to The Country Villa on Rte 20).  ?????  Can anyone confirm?
    
    MJ

>    I think it's right off of Boundary Rd in Marlboro (road next
>    to The Country Villa on Rte 20).  ?????  Can anyone confirm?

	There is definitely a road off Boundary Rd near the Country Villa,
	and I think there's a small sign saying "Marlboro Fish+Game" on the
	corner.
	
	/Ken

	what's early?
	
	gates open at ??:?? (3:00?)

    first band goes on at 2...

	glad i axed. for some reason i thought it wuz 3  %-}
	

    re, i just deleted the direx in .78 because i realized i don't know my
    right from me left...
    
    revised direx...
    
    from 495 take 20 west
    from 20 west turn RIGHT onto BOUNDARY ST
    afte ~100 feet take first RIGHT onto ELM st...
    club is on LEFT a little ways up...
    
    sorry bout that... :^)
    
    come early...  Cross the Water goes on at 2...  :^)

Where's Boundary Street?  How far from 495?

adam

Can we bring in coolers with picnic food stuff?  Is the M. F & G going
tobe selling grill stuff like burgers/chicken?
Didn't Slipknot play the M. F & G many years ago?

 Josh_back_from_columbus_ohio

    more ?'s
    beer?
    how much?
    where?
    what kind?
    our own?
    

    
    chris,
    
    plentee of beer there...hafta guess 1.50 a cup maybe...i really don't
    think you can bring your own...

    the right onto Boundary St. is approx 1 mile from 495...if you go past
    Boundary St. you'll see a sign entering Northboro, you missed it...

Yah, Boundery St. To Elm. The road is not too far down Elm, there must be a sign 
because I know where it is. The actual name of the road which the F&G is on is 
Muddy Lane. 
	BOundery St. is about a mile from 495, directly across from Haynes 
Memorial Drive (The A&M Dragway to the local teenagers of the late '70s)

	Elm st. is aobut 400-500 feet down Boundery st., on the right.

	Muddy Lane is after the bend in the Elm and just past the 
rise, on the left. (unless you got on Elm at Pleasant of Felton). 



See Ya' there

	Anyone have any idea what the deal is with cost of admission, 
	and kids ?

	/Ken

    don't know the scoop on kids... they're welcome but i don't know about
    $$$$... i'd suggest trying the knotline (sorry, i don't have the new 
    knotline number handy)... $10 for adults...
    
    no bottle or cans...  you can bring your own food if you like,
    but the club makes it's money on the refreshements so no drinks
    (also it puts thier liquor license at risk if you byob)...  i expdect
    they'll be selling some kind of food but don't know for certain...
    
    					da ve
    
    						

    
    Hummmm, would I be able to see a significant amount of music arriving
    at at 2:00 and leaving at 5:00ish?

	grate time. grate place. grate music.  :-)   :-)

N E 1 got a setlist?
How about a Cross the Water setlist?

thx, Josh

I agree with Jay - a wonderful time all around.

Let's do it again, real soon. ;-)

tim

    a partial Cross the Water setlist is the best i could do from memory...
    and you know what happens to the ol' short term memory at an event like
    this... :^)
    
    lets see...  
    
    You Dont Know How It Feels   (Tom Petty)
    Dont Forget to Dance         (Kinks)
    All Things Being the Same    (Ellis Paul)
    You Wrecked Me               (Tom Petty)
    Crow                         (Dan Fogelberg)
    Who'd a Thunk It?            (Greg Brown)
    Looking At Yourself          (Peter Savageau)
    If I Ever Fall In Love       (da ve)
    Loose Lucy                   ("you know who!" :^)
    Waiting For a Miracle        ("you know who!" again :^)
    No Question                  (da ve)
    Touching You                 (Peter Savageau)
    The Ramblin' Rover           (Andrew M. Stewart)
    
    
    hmmmm...  that might be all of them...  order might be a littl eoff,
    but you should be able to tell if you listen with the list in front of
    you...  :^)  did i leavce any out?
    
    bummer of the day for me was my DAT not cooperating...  :^(  Gerry
    thought i was only getting a signal on one side so he swapped decks
    with his for the soundboard feed... i've been told that the machine
    does this when it's getting an analog signal but i'm not sure...
    anyway, when we tried to put it back in the chain later, the door
    wouldn't stay shut!  so my machine was useless...
    
    the board tapes for the Jiggle set have pretty bad distortion (and they
    brought their own soudn guy to run it too!)...  must have been a pre-eq
    mix cuz i didn't hear that in the final mix...  SLipknot's set has this
    too but it's much less noticable...  i hven't heard the tapes of our
    set yet (as i said, DAT no cooperating) so i can't say if it's there...
    
    i'd like to get audience tapes...  how'd yours come out Josh?
    
    					da ve

Well, my tapes came out fairly good, I think, with a few caveats.
1.  I used AC power, like everyone else taping (I think) so everytime the 
PA/board power went out there's a loud PFFFZZZTTT! as my deck (and the PA)
died.
2.  The mikes I have (Core Sonic "Battery Box" omni's) did real well IMHO,
a very good sound image, excellent bass (esp. on "You Don't Know How It Feels).
But when the wind picked up a little in Slipknot's sets, I can hear the sound
get that slight phaseyness from the wind.  Not from the wind on the mike
capsules, but a slight hollowness that comes and goes.
3.  The mikes accurately captured the IMO not-so-great sound of Slipknot's
set... I think their soundman didn't mix it too well.  The problem is in the
high freq (4-10 Khz)... too loud, or a peak that should have been cut down.
He had the bass turned way down too, which he should not have done.
Haven't listened to the Jiggle set yet.

4. The PA had a problem with a channel humming real loud during the CtW set.
You can hear it on the tape, however, I have a 60Hz hum filter that can remove
most if not all of the hum.  I'd have to dub analog though, since the filter
only has analog inputs/outputs.  I'd be able to fix the EQ a little too,
as long as I'd be dubbing DAT > analog sound processing stuff > DAT.

The CtW set is about 1:15, so it would fit on a 90 min DAT.
Jiggle's set was also less than 1 1/2 hours.
Slipknots two sets would fit together on a 3 hour DAT.

Josh

    
    any new listings for slipknot?
    

    
    Is slipknot taking the summer off OR WHAT?
    
    sloan

    good question...I haven't received a newsletter for a while...
    
    Wes

    
    hey me neither... in fact I was supposed to remember
    to ask about that today... oops!  Thanks for the
    reminder Cath!
    
    MJ

    thier schedule is reduced considerably due to a number of things...
    one being that they are recording again...  another being time off when
    Bruce and Tina got married...  now more time off cuz John and Linda 
    just got married (gotta have them honeymoons ya know! :^)...  and 
    the recent change in management probably hurts still too... (after all,
    *somebody* still has to do all the stuff that Geoff used to do
    while they worked on playing... :^)...
    
    they'll be back...  but i bet they'll all be glad to know that they are
    missed too... :^)  (and yes, i'll tell Bruce)
    
    					da ve

Latest Slipknot schedule, from the Knotline, as of July 6th:


	Harpers' Ferry		Thursday, July 20th
	Plantation Club 	Friday, July 28th
	G. Willikers (sp)	Saturday, July 29th

    and i spoke to Mr Mandaro over the weekend,...  mailers will be coming
    out again soon...  and look for a little bit of surprise info on it
    too!
    
    				da ve

>	Harpers' Ferry		Thursday, July 20th
>	Plantation Club 	Friday, July 28th
>	G. Willikers (sp)	Saturday, July 29th

I heard second-hand from Mark the keyboardist that the G. Williker's gig is
actually this Friday, the 21st.

I concur with Tim that the knotline did say the 29th.

adam

    got my mailer yesterday, I think G. Willickers was listed as the 29th,
    fwiw...

where is G Willikers, anyway?  Next weekend is the Lowell Folk Fest, so 
I probably won't be Slippin' then.

 Josh

    G Willikers is on Route 20, Shrewsbury/Northboro line...formerly the 
    Log Cabin, right down the road from SHR...

    i expect it would be a good venue for the knot,...  big dance floor...
    pool tables...  food...  big parking lot... :^)
    
    					da ve

    
    G'Willikers is a good venue,,
    
    watchout for the Big Police...that area is heavily patroled..
    
    

    
    Found out SOS is going to be 9/9 this year. mark your calendars.
    no other details known.. please supply if you know more info.
    
    Cath

any august dates yet?

Yeah, the flier showed dates on 8/18 and 8/19, but I
forget the venues....was just looking at it this morning
(I'm going to be out of town...)  I think the Linwood
was one of 'em.  They're also doing Harper's on
Thursday, 8/24, which I'll probably do...

tim

The Bruce Mandaro Band is playing tomorrow night 8/11 at G-Williker's on 
Rte 20 in Westborough.

The cast for tomorrow night is:

Bruce Mandaro -- Guitar/Vocals
John Brigham -- Bass/Vocals
Donny Lavin -- Keyboards
Buddy Cage -- Pedal Steel
Mike Zecco -- Drums

Who's going to see the Bruce Mandaro band tonight?

Can someone post directions?

I reckon i may pass on Ronnie at the chance of hanging with
some familiar faces.

	i hope to be there.
	all i know is it's on rte 20 in northboro? i'll find it!!

    Yup Route 20 it is...
    
    495 south to Route 20...go into Northboro, and stay on Route 20...go
    thru the center of town, go past a little mall with supermarket, donut
    shop right by the road...look for Route 20 to go left up a hill
    immediately after the supermarket...after it takes this left, you are
    about 2-3 miles from G Willickers...it will be on your left after you
    go under Route 9, and past Shrewsbury Village shopping center...

    sounds like the apres allmans will be at GWillickers
    see you there ferguson
    .......if someone tapes tonight's  broadcast can i swing a copy?
                                   thanks
    chris

you better not woos out on me leblanc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAGE!@

and RAGE hahd!

      Can someone please tell me where Slipknot will be playing in the near
    future.....thanks.....

I think this Friday is the Linwood Grill in Boston.  Not sure about
Saturday.

The Knotline is 617-625-5294.

adam

    saturday is at Tammany Hall in Worcester i believe....
    
    					da ve

    is that Plunkitt of Tammany Hall?
    :^)
    
    
    chris_polisci_geek_with_cheesy_humor
    

	i cud use a saturday show.
	if they're there, where's there?

    i dont have my schedule in front of me, and cant seem to find my new
    knotline number either...  hmmm...
    
    anyway, if they are indeed at Tammany, as i suspect, it is on pleasant
    st in worcester...  pleasant st is right downtown...  easiest direx are
    fromthe centrum...  the centrum is at he corner of worc center bvd and 
    commercial st (i think it is commercial anyway)...  take commercial
    up to main (about two blocks) and go left on main...  pleasant comes
    into main 3-4 blocks up on the right...  however, at this point it is a
    one way st down into main...  you cant make the right...  continue up
    and go around the block (chatham st? next couple of rights) and you 
    can come back around to Tammany...  looks smal from the front but it's 
    big inside... parking is tough on pleasant st but there should be plenty
     of parking as you're coming aound the block... david hale fanning 
    trade school is up there, as is st pauls cathedral...
    
    					da ve

    
    Anyone know where the Lynnwood is?  I heard it's near Fenway pahk?

    right across the street from simmons college....a fine alllllllllll
    female institution of higher learning
    
    :^)

    
    Elaborate please....  
    
    Some of us burbanites aren't as hip-hep on the Boston scene as you 
    you city boy.  I reckon I should just follow all the wimmin. 

    dude
    i live in new hampsha
    i like sheep
    i ain't no jive city cat.....
    just  know where to look for chicks.....
    
    you got the right idear

    Deane-
    
    	Yes, Lynwood Grille is near Fenway park.
    
    From Storrow Drive:
    
    	Take Storrow Drive to the Fenway exit.
    
        Bear RIGHT, you will go through a light (green arrow).
    
    	Go straight through next 1 or 2 lights.  You will pass WBCN on
    	your right, and a McDonalds on your left.
    
    	Look for a Burger King on your left.  Take the next left after
    	the Burger King.
    
    	Lynwood Grille will be one block up, on the right.  There is a
    	driveway to the right of the door, go in here and park behind
    	the club in the parking lot.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    To get to Storrow Drive from Mass Pike:
    	Take the Mass Pike to the Allston/Cambridge exit (exit 17), which
    	will be on the left.
    
    	After you pay the $0.50 toll, bear right towards CAMBRIDGE.
    
    	Go straight through first set of lights and get into far right
        lane. 	
    
    	Take a right at next light (Guest Quarters Suite Hotel) and you are
    	on Storrow Drive.
    
    	Follow directions above.
                                                            

    
    Thanks D.
    

SLIPKNOT!   -  Boston's primere improvisational rock 'n' roll band plays their
unique style of music (originals and covers) at the following locations.  Put
on your dancing shoes !   Groove to the blues, jazz, folk, and psychedelic rock
of Slipknot!

If you enjoy the music of the Grateful Dead, Allman Brothers, The Band,
Traffic, etc.
then you will really enjoy a Slipknot! show.

For more information call the Knotline @ (617) 625-5294
For set lists of past shows, email mam@dbsoftware.com

AUGUST, 1995

Fri. 18th - Lynwood Grill, Boston, MA.
Sat 19th - Tamminy Hall, Worcestor, MA.
Thurs 24th - Harper's Ferry, Allston, MA.

SEPTEMBER, 1995

Fri. 8th - Plantation Club, Worcester, MA
Sat 9th -  "Slip Out of Summer" - Outdoors all day at the Marlboro Fish & Game
Club w/ special guest Buddy Cage (pedal steel guitar player formerly with NRPS).
Sat 23rd -  Lynwood Grill, Boston, MA.
Sat 30th - Wong Dynasty, Holden, MA.

********  "Let there be songs to fill the air"  - R. Hunter  ********

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    Is it too soon for rules/regulations/details about this year's SOS? 
    :-) 
    
    

    ***RULES***?????
    
    mnelson told me nothing about rules!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    rfb_ruleless

    details are as follows:
    up at 8 am for slipknot
    drunk by noon
    dancing by 12:05
    
    naked by 3 pm.....
    
    any questions?

    
    Like someone said Slipknot's going to do 3 sets .. SOS doors open
    at 2? 4?  direx to Marlboro F&G are in here somewhere?  
    
    usual list of 'not allowed' stuff? 
    
    

    The Slipknot fern line said 4 till 10.
    
    gary

    
    I just called Marlboro F&G.  They said they open at 2:00.  No BYOB.  
    They thought, weren't sure though, that admission may be $10.  Kids 
    under 12 years Free.  Food and beverages on sale inside.  
    
    OZZIE RULES!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    	

	ROOLZ!?! we don need no steenkeen ROOLZ!
	
combined directions from .82 and .88 ...
	    
from 495 take 20 west
from 20 west turn RIGHT onto BOUNDARY ST
take first RIGHT onto ELM ST ...
club is on LEFT a little ways up...
    
The actual name of the road which the F&G is on is  Muddy Lane. 
Boundery St. is about a mile from 495, across from Haynes Memorial Drive.

Elm st. is about 400-500 feet down Boundery st., on the right.

Muddy Lane is after the bend in the Elm and just past the rise, on the left.

Usual list of stuff you can't bring in (cans bottles etc), but they said
you could bring grilles/hibachi's.   The flyer also said that they're having
a chicken BBQ, and that they'll have Sam Adams on tap (hopefully Octoberfest,
but I doubt it!).

/Ken, hopefully will attend w/ family

A couple of addendums to the direx:

from 495 take 20 west
from 20 west turn RIGHT onto BOUNDARY ST
	(at the blinking yellow light, Country Villa restaurant on the corner;
	 from 495, you go through 3 lights, I think)

take first RIGHT onto ELM ST ...
club is on LEFT a little ways up...
    
The actual name of the road which the F&G is on is  Muddy Lane. 
Boundery St. is about a mile from 495, across from Haynes Memorial Drive.

Elm st. is about 400-500 feet down Boundery st., on the right.

Muddy Lane is after the bend in the Elm and just past the rise, on the left.

    
    SIS was friggin awesome!
    
    Cool place!  
    
    What was the deal with that scarlet?  The sound was lost, and the
    people at the soundboard were just sit'n there.  Let's get it together!
          

    next stop Linwood Grille!
    

    
    Saturday was magical ! Nice to finally dance with RFB !
    
    RE: 84.140 > Harsh Deano Harsh.
    
    Cath 

    
    re: .140  by the way Deano, SIS was in MAY  :-}
             yeah - super time all around. nice to meet some
    	     RONs; RFB and Patty; the Nelson clan .. etc etc
    
    
    

	I have to agree, we had a great time and the day was perfect. I 
really did enjoy the turn out, I haven't seen that many DECheads at once 
in a long time. Lots of long time ago DECheads too. 

	Great day!

    Sigh. Erica came home from daycare with a fever on Friday, so we didn't
    go anywhere on the weekend.
    
    gary

    If I miss the next one, somebody call the doctor please!

    Tom

	anyone going to golly g willikers tonite for bruce mandaro
	w/buddy cage?

           Anyones that's going to slipknot 10/13 at whitehorse is welcome
        to come party at my house in Nashua (10 miles from white horse
        down amherst st.) before and after the show.  You're welcome
        to crash there too (bring a sleeping bag).
    
        It's Adam's birthday 10/14 so we'll be celebrating that too.
    
        Send mail if you're coming.
    
        Cath
 =======
9/23	Slipknot	Linwood Grille, Boston
9/25	Slipknot **	The Plantation Club, Worcester
9/29	Slipknot	G.Willickers, Shrewsbury
9/30	Slipknot	The Wong Dynasty, Holden
10/5	Slipknot	Harper's Ferry, Allston
10/7	Slipknot	The Firehouse, Worcester
10/13	Slipknot	The Whitehorse Inn, Milford NH
10/20	B.Mandaro *	The Usual, Lowell
10/21   B.Mandaro *	The Wong Dynasty, Holden

* with Buddy Cage
** acoustic - opening up for Mocha Java

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    on 9/25 at the P club...  is that Slipknot acoustic or Bruce Manadaro
    band acoustic???  i think it's Bruce but no the knot...  i also believe
    one of Bruce's guests that night is Pete Savageau, who does the lead
    work for us in Cross the Water...
    
    					da ve

    
    I just got off the phone with Bruce Mandaro. He says the 
    Bruce Mandaro Band (BMB) will be playing tonite, yes, tonite,
    September 21, at the Plantation Club in Worcester.
    
    The BMB for tonite will consist of Bruce Mandaro on guitar and vocals,
    Buddy Cage performing his usual magic, Mark Mercier (of Max Creek) on
    Keyboards and vocals, John 'The Bottom' Brigham (from Slipknot) on
    Bass, and Mike Zecco (from Slipknot) on Drums.
    
    Show time is 9:30, with a cover of $4.00.
    
    A good time should be had by all.
    
    Also, Bruce says that on 9/25, it is not Slipknot opening for Mocha
    Java, but the Accoustice Bruce Mandaro Band.
    
    

    
    Oh WOW!  Buddy RRRrrrrraaaaaaggggggeeeee on steel!!!!

Buddy RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRaaaage!
:-)

    
    anyone going to the plantation club tonight?
    
    sloan

    getting ahead of myself but a pre -show warmup before the white horse
    should be in the works...

    
    See 84.148 ..
    
    party time at my place next week Friday the 13th.
    
    Cath

10/20/95 Slipknot is playing at "The Usual", Lowell.  Anyone know where
this is, and what the place is like?

Josh

    
    i have been told the place is a dump and it is in a seedy section
    of town..if i remember right it is near the bridge that 38 runs into

                                                       
    It's very close to Lowell Memorial Auditorium.  I, um, er, um, had a
    few too many there before the Phish show.
    
    I wouldn't call it a dive and I don't think the area is that bad.
     
    There are some odd people that go there.  One young woman who I'd never
    seen before came up to me and called me a "mother f'ing son of a f'ing 
    b!tch and an a'hole".  Then, 5 minutes later she came over and kissed
    me.  Perhaps she forgot to take her med's that day.

>    There are some odd people that go there.  One young woman who I'd never
>    seen before came up to me and called me a "mother f'ing son of a f'ing 
>    b!tch and an a'hole".  Then, 5 minutes later she came over and kissed
>    me.  Perhaps she forgot to take her med's that day.


Hmmm, sounds to me like you should look her up Deano.  Could be the start
of a beautiful relationship.   ;-)

PeterT

Well, I'm thinkin' of checking out the Knot tonight at this great mystery
black-hole of a bar in Lowell called The Usual, seein' as how I live so
close to the place, and nothin's going on tonight for me except watching
tonight's episode of X-files, which I can tape.

Anyone else going, or am I gonna be like Dylan's Mr. Jones : Ohmygod, am I 
here allll alooonnnneeee???????

 Josh

	josh, not that there's much of a difference but, tonite is BMB
	w/buddy cage, not the Knot.
	
	n e 1 doing BMB w/BC at the wong dynasty tamara nite?
	
	jay

re          <<< Note 84.162 by MKOTS3::JOLLIMORE "I'm drowning in you" >>>

>	josh, not that there's much of a difference but, tonite is BMB
>	w/buddy cage, not the Knot.

Oh, I didn't know that, but then again there's only one I've met, and
he just punched my eyelids, an' smoked my cigarette.....

 - J

    there's something going on Josh, but you don't know what it is...
    
    			do you, mr Belkin?  :^)
    
    					da ve

I'm beginning to catch on!

Well, if I wasn't so tired today, and BMB wasn't playing locally, I'm head
to CtW.  But I'm sooo tired, I haven't slept a wink, I'm sooooo tired, my
mind is on the blink.  Thinking of crashing for an hour when I get home,
then dinner, then BMB.  Not into the long drive to see CtW, unfortunately :-(

  - J 

    come on without, come on within...  you'll not see nothing like
    the sleepy Belkin...  :^)

anyone have the SlipSked for the next few weeks?  When I try calling the
Knotline number on the official Slipknot biznizz card I have, I get
"this number is not in service".

 - Josh

    just called the knotline... the message is from the 11th and all the
    shows listed are past...
    
    the new knotline number is 617-625-5294...
    
    					da ve

    linwood grille fri night
    anyone up?
    
    i'll be solo there
    
    
    
    chris

chris...i may go.
you still going bud?
send me mail 'cuz i'm once again backlogged in here

       SUNday, November 19th at the LA BALLROOM in Lowell, Mass
       All ages. 2-7pm:


                              Slipknot
                                 &
                         Elastic Waste Band

 
 
     For those who haven't heard, EWB does mostly Dead stuff...   
     
     Direx will be posted soon.
     

    ->LA Ballroom
    is this a family dog production?

Plantation Club this friday?  I'm up for it...it's been
awhile...

tim

    
    
    The Slipknot/EWB show on Nov 19th has been cancelled because
    the LA Ballroom really sucks.
    
    
    

    
    Is it slipknot playing or BMB tonight at Plantation Club?
    Slip hotline not updated yet.
    
    Cath
     

    I Beeleeev it's Slipknot...I won't be there unfortunately, or 2morrow
    either...I'll be sittin' in with Drama at the new Black Orchid on rt 9
    shrewsbury...9pm-1am, no cover...
    
    Wes

    hey now Wes, whaddaya mean "unfortunately?"  a gig of your own is
    always better than someone elses! :^)
    
    					da ve

    yer right da ve, but "unfortunately" meant no seein' any of youz folks
    and no slipping, which is always fun...and I'm not ready for a whole
    night just yet...in fact, my 2nd audition was the only time I've jammed
    with the entire band...so this 4-5 song blast Live will actually be my
    1st "real rehearsal" with them...  
    
    should be Quite Interesting
    
    Wes_whose_keyboard_fingers_are_loving_all_the_playin'_I'm_doin_lately

    
    Doubtful I will make Slipknot tonight, but all are welcome to swing
    by my place in Acton before hand.  I know Leblanc and Strobel will
    be there.  
    
    I say we go to a Drama gig soon and put the pressue on Wes! ;-)

    Thanx Deano   :)))

    
    anyone gonna check out Slip at The Usual tomorrow night? How
    was it last time and where is it?
    
    Sloan

damn!   I didn't make to to the previous (first) Usual show (which was actually
the Bruce Mandaro Band with Buddy) cause I was just too damn tired that night.
Now I'm supposed to goto NYC tomorrow night.  feh!

 Josh

>anyone gonna check out Slip at The Usual tomorrow night?
>How was it last time and where is it?

I'm planning to go, but I have no idea where it is either. 
I didn't make it the last time (but last week's Plantation
Club show was fun!).  Glad to see 'em playing relatively
close to me - it's usually a 40 minute drive no matter what
(Worcester, Boston or the White Horse are all the same to
me)...

tim

    
     Just called The Usual. (508)454-3699. Directions were'nt too good.
     But the guy said, go to the end of lowell connector, take a left,
     then go straight, bearing right at V intersection, then on
     through a couple lights, eventually you'll see the Usual on
     the left .. it's downtown I gather, not too far from Sun building.
     
     He said there's parking behind the place where there's a lot
     of buses parked. I guess that will get me in the vicinity 
     but the guy I talked to did'nt know street names.
     
     Cath      

    
    FWIW it's within 3 blocks of the Lowell Memorial Auditorium.

be warned, lowell has NO street signs.
they're illegal :-)

	was just reminded at lunchtime...

	the Bruce Mandaro Band will be playing at the White Horse
	this Saturday...

re      <<< Note 84.187 by STAR::ECOMAN::DEBESS "if my words did glow..." >>>
                                 -< bmb in nh >-


>	the Bruce Mandaro Band will be playing at the White Horse
>	this Saturday...


who is going?
i have a $20 gift cert to the W.H.

    i spoke to Bruce last night...  i had sent him some of the
    "Bruce as a replacement for Jerry" stuff from here, which he
    enjoyed immensely... :^)  and while he appreciates everyone's kind
    words, he's not exactly applying for the job...
    
    he did ask me to mention that the Bruce Mandaro band will be at the
    Horse, as was already mentioned, on saturday...  friday they will also
    be at the Wong in Holden...  this time the BMB is a quartet...  no
    Buddy Cage...  and they keyboard player is a past (current?) member of
    the Candles (sorry...  didn't catch the name)...
    
    the BMB is also playing at the Plantation Club on Monday next week,
    opening for Mocha Java...
    
    and, last but certainly not least, Dec 9th, a benefit at G'Willy's for 
    Abby's House for the Holidays...  Abby's House is a resource for
    homeless and/or battered women and thier families...  the benefit is to
    make sure that these folks have a nice holiday season like the rest of
    us...  toys, food, celebration etc...  the benefit on the 9th will
    also feature Cross the Water and Mocha Java...
    
    so that's the news, and "hello" to everyone from Bruce...
    
    					da ve

    re: Keyboard player...the last time I saw BMB at G willy's Donny LAvin
    from Northboro was on the B3...izhe in The Candles?

    
    I'm planning on going to White Horse Saturday.  Give a call if you're
    interested in partying prior to heading out there.
    
    Cath

    fwiw, i don't think the person Bruce was talking about was Donny...
    
    					da ve

re: BMB/Candles keyboardist

I just saw the Candles in Newton last week, and they apparently have a
pretty new keyboardist.  His name is Alex, and he's from Oklahoma.  He's
pretty good, too.  If BMB has an earlier Candles keyboardist, it could be
Chris from Marlboro.

adam

      Andy Burns, former DEC employee and still a fellow dechead at heart
    wishes to invite anyone who might be attending the Slipknot gig this
    Friday night in Lawrence, to a pre-show gathering at his place in
    Salem, NH (minutes from the gig).....send me mail for more info...
    
                    :-) daveb

>    wishes to invite anyone who might be attending the Slipknot gig this
>    Friday night in Lawrence, to a pre-show gathering at his place in

details, please?

 Josh

     I don't have an actual slipknot schedule but I have been told that
    they are playing at the Loft and Ladle on Essex st. in Lawrence this
    Friday night....AF Burns invites you to come over and park in his
    lot...probably safer than parking down there..  :-o
    
    
    

	i the 'knot at the plantation this Sat nite???
	N E 1 goin?

    not i...    Cross the Water has a gig in wormtown saturday night...
    notice coming almost immediately to the local band note... :^)
    
    					da ve

    Claddagh?

	don't axe me, i ain't frum lawrence  ;-)
	(that's what it sounded like on the knot line message)

got an email from Slipknot...  here's the basic content...  i tried to 
access the web page and had no luck...  error 404, page is not on this 
server...  dont know what's up with that but i sent mail back letting them 
know of the problem....

so for anyone who needs it, here it is... the slipknot/bmb schedule for
january and february....


					da ve



This is a test - but if it works, our brand new web site is located at
http://www.xensei.com/users/munzer/index.htm - check it out if you can, and
stay in touch. And for those of you who were wondering, here's our upcoming
gig schedule.


Friday, January 5 - Slipknot - Great  Scott's - Boston, MA - 9:45

Friday, January 12 - Slipknot - The Usual - Lowell, MA - 9:45 
Saturday, January 13 - Slipknot - The Linwood Grille - Boston, MA - 9:45 

Friday, January 19 - Slipknot - G. Willickers - Shrewsbury, MA - 9:45
Saturday, January 20 - Slipknot  - The Whitehorse Inn - Milford, N.H. - 9:30

Wednesday, January 24 - The Bruce Mandaro Band 
          The Plantation Club - Worcester, MA - 9:30

Wednesday, January 31 - The Bruce Mandaro Band
          The Plantation Club - Worcester, MA - 9:30
Thursday, February 1 - The Bruce Mandaro Band
       Tammany Hall - Worcester, MA - 9:30
Friday, February 2 - Slipknot - The Wong Dynasty - Holden, MA - 9:30

Friday, February 9 - Slipknot - The Linwood Grille - Boston, MA - 9:45 
Saturday, February 10 - Slipknot - The Firehouse - Worcester, MA - 9:45

Thursday, February 15 - The Bruce Mandaro Band
        Tammany Hall - Worcester, MA - 9:30
Friday, February 16 - Slipknot - The Plantation Club - Worcester, MA - 9:45 
Saturday, February 17 - Slipknot - the Attic at Union St. - Newton, MA - 9:45

>Friday, January 12 - Slipknot - The Usual - Lowell, MA - 9:45 

Finally - a Usual show I can make!  Possiblity of pre-show gathering at my 
place, if anyone's interested?

 Josh

    Absolutely - I guess I could venture into Lowell, if someone will
    guide me!  

    addendum to my earlier note about the homepage, it seems to work now...
    don't know what was up this morning, but i just checked it out this 
    afternoon...
    
    the site's still under construction, but it does have the schedule and
    some psuedo direx to the venues...  set lists...  merchandise (no data
    yet) and info on the upcoing cd (no data yet)...  oh yeah, and quotes
    from the press about the band too...
    
    not bad all in all...
    
    					da ve

Josh, i might be up for the pre-rage.
send mail if it'll happen cuz chances are
i won't be in here for another month :-(

    
    In case ya missed it in digressions folks that would like to
    stop before or after slipknot at the whitehorse can stop
    by my place after 6pm.
    
    saturday 1/20.   send me mail if you think you might be stopping
    and/or if you need directions.
    
    Cath

    
    anyone slipping into Boston tonight?
    
    sloan

Probably not, but I'll be at the American Lobster in Mrlboro for the
Candles!

adam

 Please post some dates for Candles shows.

Jim

    any news on the knot in the upcoming weeks?
    

	knot a word have i heard.
	 ;-)
	

I heard last night, March 8 & 9 at Great Scott's in
Boston...unconfirmed, though...

    
    Anyone going to Tammany tonight?  
    
    I'll be there (&Christine&Donna too)
    
    Hope to see lots and lots of decheads since I
    won't be making the party tomorrow and it's been
    such a long time!
    
    My bones are in need of some serious shakin!  ;-)
    
    /mj

Very likely...same problem here..;-)

	i mite be there.  i hope.  ;-)

It's Harper's tonight, right?  Anyone going?

    
    DC and I are going out. Not sure if it's Harpers or Tammany at
    this point.
    
    Cath

    
    DC, Debess and I will be doing the slip thang tonight.
    Join us at the plantation club.
    
    Sloan

	rrrRRRRRaAAAge.

anyone planning on doing the slip thing tomorrow night?
GerryG and i are planning on going...

 i can't make this evening...  other planz... :^)

			da ve

    I would like to go, could directions be posted?

well, it's kind of late to post direx to slipknot's saturday show,
but i can post direx for you for Cross the Water's show
on Thursday... :^)

			da ve

	and, if you're in town and you're going to worcester thursday
	nite, ya gotta visit the main street brewery, not far from the
	Cross the Water show!  :-)
	

    
    So is anyone going to Worcester tomorrow night? Or are you just
    making suggestions Jay?
    
    Cath

	i'm always being suggestive  ;-)
	
	a possibility, i spoze.  can't say today tho.
	

    
    Slipknot tonight at Wong Dynasty in Holden and tomorrow Lynwood in Boston
    for anyone interested.   I'll probably head into Boston tomorrow.
    
    sloan                                                            

	on my way into work today, saw on the sign outside of the
	White Horse, Slipknot will be there on Saturday...and so 
	will I ;-)

	Debess

Me2

Me3.

Was at the Attic show on Sat... my first time there.. I don't like the Attic
though.. abundant nice looking women a plus, but room is a small box with
not enough tables and chairs and places to put your jacket/coat/shirt etc.
Got very crowded - too claustrophobic.  Bleh.

 - Josh

Me4.  and reilly makes 5 ;-)
	
	grate show at golly g's last friday nite.
	'cept for the dead animals, i like that place. :-)
	

NE1 up for Slipknot at Tammany Hall this Friday?

Wes

	That's Tamany Club!!   ;-)
	
	i don't think i can make friday. tho, i do like tamany better
	than the whitehorse.

I'm seriously considering the Tammany...and the
Whitehorse....it's been a hell of a coupla weeks, and
I'm gonna need to do some more dancin'...

Agreed re: Golly G's and the animal corpses...;-)

tim

here's yet another offer of a pre-Tammany-rage at my place on Friday eve...I
agree with Tim, a ruff few weeks for me, and I need to Slip a night away...
Drama actually has 2 weekends off, and I will go Slippin' for a change !!!

if yer interested in getting completely silly before Tammany, lemme know, and
I'll forward directions...

Rage on

Wes

    me and john shep at the whitehorse for sure this saturday.
    
    yeah yeah yeah - i know you've heard it all before...but htis time
    we mean it!
    
    

    Where/what is "Tammany"?
    
    gary

	Tammany Club, formerly Tammany Hall. Pleasent St, off Main St,
	downtown wormtown.
	
	jay

uhhhh, do you need directions????   :^)

				da ve

    Directions? Sure....   I figured one would head in a general
    sou'worcesterish (or maybe west-sou'worcesterish) direction and then
    ask...
    
    gary

ok, but remember, you asked for it.... :^)

HOW TO FIND THE TAMMANY CLUB 

	by da ve

when giving directions, i have often found it quite useful to begin at  
the beginning...  for one thing, that's where most people EXPECT 
you to begin...  for another, i tend to get less confused that way...
and believe me, since i'm giving the directions, you don't want ME
to get confused...  you'll be confused enough for both of us...

so, let us begin at the beginning...  

in the beginning, there was nothing...  only the void...  and god
looked down upon the void, and she said, "this void is a real drag...
i really should do something about this...  i mean, if i'm going to have
any fun at all as a benificent, but mischievious god, i have to have
SOMETHING down there to mess with..." and thus began the
story of creation... oh sure, i know you've heard OTHER stories
of creation, but since none of the authors, never mind yourself,
were even *present*, then how the hell would THEY know, and 
how do YOU know that i don't know BETTER than what THEY 
know???  hmmmm?????

so god, in her infinite wisdom, made lots of neat things that make no
real sense to anyone but her...  and in amongst these things, was a
nutrient rich sea and a plethora of single celled organisms...  one day
one of the single celled organisms, specifically an amoeba by the 
name of Tammany, got stuck on a piece of flotsam in the middle of 
this nutrient rich sea, and decided that it was a cool place to be...
Tammany then told all it's other amoeba pals (note the gender 
nuetral terms... important when referrring to organisms that 
reproduce asexually...  important cuz their descendants are still 
around and they tend to get really pissed when you refer to them
in other ways... and when they get pissed they take up residence
in your digestive tract and you REALLY don't want THAT to 
happen, trust me) what a cool thing it was to hang out on the flotsam
in the noonday sun...  one by one they all started to get the hang of it
and eventually there were thousands of these little critters digging
the rays on the flotsam...  they mostly vegged out during the day, but 
at night, things really hopped...  they jumped into the sea and chowed 
down on the free nutrients, drank up a storm, and then hung out some 
more on the flotsam...  the flotsam became known as "Tammany's
Club" and thus bagan the evolution of hot night spots in the world...
so while you may have known that all life sprang from the sea, i bet 
you didn't know that all night life springs from Tammany and the 
Club...

insert thousands of years of boring evolutionary stuff here...  fast 
forward to the present day...  the Tammany Club has now evolved to 
be the center of the entertainment universe, but true to it's origins
(as all great evolutionary miracles are still today) the club is still rich 
in nutrients and joy inducing beverages....  the world has changed 
much since Tammany's early days... the amoeba's have created a
new strain called humans, that were never satisfied with thier happy 
lives in the sea... they insisted on building highways and byways
so that they would have an excuse for retreating to Tammany at 
the close of the day, to make merry...  silly humans...  as if an excuse
is really necessary....

Tammany cares not however, and welcomes all with open arms...
however now, instead of swimming on up to the flotsam, you have
to find yor way through a maze of twisty turning passages to the 
center of the entertainment universe so that you may boogie your 
feet right down to your knees....  life forms desiring musical bliss
must first find Worcester...  cultural mecca of cosmic bacteria...
creatures coming from northern mass and southern nh and other 
areas up that a way, typically find it easiest to head down I495
to the I290 junction and proceed in a westerly direction into 
Worcester...  most tend to use motorized conveyances like an 
automobile...  from the Nashua area, it takes about an hour...  
sigificantly longer if travelling on foot...

as you approach Worcester, you will come down a hill and pass over 
a lake...  it looks like a river but it's really a long, skinny lake...
if the water appears to move, making you think "come on da ve, i 
KNOW this is a river" remind yourself that this motion of the water 
is probably due to the large quantity of amoebas that reside in this 
lake... see amoebas are heading back for Tammany to this day,
following some sort of genetic memory...  unfortunately for them, 
they never really developed much in the way of brains, so they get 
easily distracted and their memories are driving them also towards 
flotsam...  close examination of the lake will teach you that there is a 
significant quantity of flotsam inthe lake... dont go there...  unlkess
you're a confused amoeba...

continue across the bridge and up a long hill into Worcester...  you 
probably already feel betting in anticipation of the bliss to come, 
but dont get too excited yet...  you still have a trip to finish...

you no doubt have noticed by now that there are several large green 
signs hanging over the roadway...  these may prove very helpful in 
your quest...  unless you are an amoeba, which due to it's 
infinitessimally small brain, can not read...  after you see signs 
indicating the presence of I-190  you need to pay close attention 
(dammit)...  the first exit AFTER I-190 is the one you're looking for...
i believe the sign says "Lincoln Square"...  so after the I-190 merge,
take the Lincoln Sq exit...  

Stay to the right on this ramp!  reason?  you need to turn right at the 
bottom...  now here's the exciting part... as soon as you turn right, at 
the bottom of the ramp, you need to scoot over to the LEFT... 
reason? the road forks and you want to go to the left...  got it?  if you 
navigate this successfully, you will come into Lincoln Sq, where you 
will see, across and on the left, the scenic POLICE Station...  across
and on the right is the Crown Plaze hotel...  looking further right 
you'll see the Auditorium (more scenic than the police station but i 
don't want to be redundant in my descriptors) and a large war 
memorial with a flag flying thre...  assuming the lights (yes, there are 
traffic lights here) are green, proceed forward across the 
intersection heading towards the centrum...  if the lights are red, i 
suggest stopping... after all, you are right nesxt to the police station
(and the court house too actually...  isn't THAT convenient?)...

if you did this correctly, you are now on Worcester Center Bvd 
heading towards the Centrum...  when you reach the Centrum, turn 
right and head up to Main St...  when you reach Main St, turn left
and start looking for Pleasant St  (and all the other former amoeba's
heading towards their own personal nirvana) on the right...  DO NOT
go up Pleasant St as it is one way...  while yes, you are only capable 
of going one way, in this case it would be the wrong way!...  continue 
past Pleasant St (which, despite it's name, is not all that pleasant to
look at) and take your next right on to Chatham (i think) St...  then 
turn right again, and right again onto Pleasant...

now you are going the proper way down Pleasant St...  problem is, 
there is only a hundred or so yards of Pleasant St to park on before
you are back on Main... so you will probably go all the way around 
the block again...  :^)  not a problem, but if you want to save yourself 
the trouble, there's a parking lot on the left corner, of Pleasant, 
before you end up backin the ol' Pleasant St infinite loop... park there 
and WALK (not like an amoeba, but more like a human) down to the 
Tammany Club...  where happy people ( and amoebas) are waiting for 
you... with sustenance...  :^)

so, the readers digest version...

495 to 290 to worcester...
get off on lincoln sq and go right at the bottom of the ramp...
stay left at the fork...
forward through all the lights down to the centrum...
right past the centrum...
left onto main st...
pass pleasant st and go around the block...
park...  walk... eat... drink...  be merry...  curse da ve for these 
directions...  :^)


			da ve

wow.... da ve... you musta written that after spending a loonnnnnggggggg
timmmeeeee floating in a very dark, warm, moist tank.....

 - Josh

Da ve, Worcester as cultural mecca etcetc...I couldn't agree more...and for
adventure I may follow your direx, and ignore my otherwise Wormtown-amoeba-like
tendencies to go where I know I"m going...

and for those of you who are completely confused by da ve's direx, you are
invited to my humble amoeba-abode (neat, those words almost look-alike) in the
festering home of humanic amoebas for a pre-Slipamoeba party !!!  then we can 
slither are way down to said Tammany Amoeba Club.

email me for direx to my amoeba-abode, but I can guarantee you they won't be
like the former amoeba direx...and certainly while not detracting from the
amoebas, several Paramecium's (Parameceie?) have been known to frequent
Wormtown as well :)))

Wes

believe it or not, some people actually like for me to 
give them directions...  :^)  go figure...

while i believe them to be correct, i will probably not
be following them myself...  see, i already live in Worcester
and i'll probably just be sliding over to Wes' amoe-bode
by some other, probably indirect, route... :^)

so i'm up for a pre-rage at chez Ostiguy...  party on!

			da ve

    Da ve - your directions are works of art
    
    

	art who???   :^)

			da ve

Re: Tammany direx.

I thought that place looked old... ;-)

    
    Can't make Tam tonight but will be high style at White Horse 
    tomorrow night.

Likewise... will lay low for tonight but goto the Whitehorse tomorrow.
May have to make an early night at the WHI though if I go skiing at Loon or
Wildcat on Sunday!

 - Josh

Drink last night.
Drink tonight.
Drink tomorrow night at the 'Horse!

rage!

    
    Although I don't plan on providing any party supplies anyone going
    to slipknot at whitehorse tomorrow can stop by for pre or post
    rage at my place.
    
    Major party supplies planned for 5/4 party at Casa de Sloan's though.
    
    Cath

>HOW TO FIND THE TAMMANY CLUB 

>	by da ve


	Too Funny!!!!  thanks for the laugh (or 2 or 3...)!!!

	Buddy Rage!!! May 18th at the Plantation.  

and for Slip Into Summer, the second act is
	"Prilly", not "Frilly", and the Purple Hairs...


			da ve

	save'd the doc from their web site, so it's their type-o  ;-)
	
	they also got the last 4 dates in Knot Base wrong.
	they're all off by 1 week.
	

it's Coool when you receive mailers from both Cross The Water & Slipknot in yer
mailbox, On the Same Day !!!  got 'em both yesterday...must be that Tammany
conection...

My folks will be visiting while Slip into Summer is happening. 
I said, "Hey, let's bring them along!"  but Amy is not into the
idea.  Sigh...   But maybe I can convince the folks...

Next weekend is the big 75th b-day party for dad.  That should be 
interesting!

PeterT

PeterT...

if it helps in your attempts to convince them to come along,
my parents have been to a lot of the Slip in events over the years...
i haven't talked to them about this year so i can't say for sure,
but i wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see them show up 
if it's a nice day...  :^)   


			da ve

	yeah, and therell be plenty of other parents there too.
	
	my daughter's parents will be there!
	
	;-)
	
	

	an alternative to the camping trip:
	buddy Rage! saturday at the plantation.
	
	

    any other non campers besides jayjolls and i going to the plantay-shon
    club?

no, but I (along with the other members of DRAMA) will be Chopsticks in
Leominster Friday & Saturday

WO  :)

are there directions anywhere in here, or does someone know, how to
get to Marlboro Fish & Game?

    see note .82 debess

Well, maybe we will make it after all.  But still a maybe.  The conflict
with the Parent's visit will not be happening after all, as my folks
will not be visiting.  When we got to the 75th birthday celebration
we found that the day before, while attempting a single leg trip from
Annapolis to Westchester, they ran into a bit of difficulty.  About
a 1/2 hour or less from my brother's house, my father was distracted
(by a blonde, he joked) and hit a curb or something and blew out
one of his tires.  So he stopped the car, and got out, and Mom did
too.  Unfortunately this was during rush hour, on Rte 9, near the
Hudson, with no side to pull off onto, so they just stopped in the
middle of the road instead of limping to the closest exit.  Obviously they
weren't killed or anything, but it was a bit disconcerting, and Dad
doesn't seem to let Mom drive very much, so they were convinced by my
brothers and sister-in-laws to head back home after they finished up
with my Mom's 50th college reunion.  Sigh...  Would have loved to have
them come up and see the house and hang out with the grandkids,
but I'd also rather they be alive to visit with!  

So now, we're almost free on Saturday, with the exception of a b-day 
party that Dan's been invited to at 2PM.  Of course, nothing is 
ever simple, and Dan is suffering from the Pox!  Hopefully he'll be
over the infectious stage by Sat., but then Hannah hasn't had them 
yet either...

Interesting times, sigh....


PeterT

    So 2 grateful noters have itchy youngstahs right now....
    speedy recovery and non infectious vibes to the PeterT household as
    well

>   So 2 grateful noters have itchy youngstahs right now....

The word around town (Townsend, Mass.) is that there's a
real "rash" of chicken pox going around...  (sorry)

>   speedy recovery and non infectious vibes to the PeterT household as well

Ditto...

We keep checking my daughter to see if she's getting them as well,
but the false positives from black fly bites is disconcerting...yep,
she's got them...no wait...Yes!  No...?!?!????

Dan

How did the Sliknot note turn into the rash note?

;-)

Yeah, we thought it was the bugs at first, as they've been pretty bad.
And I'm sure that some of them are bug bites too, but they've
been showing up in wierd places, where he's been totally covered,
and these bugs aren't really the bite through the clothes type.

"Do these itch Dan?"

"No."  Scratch, scratch, scratch....   ;-)

PeterT

they never itch until someone asks that question!   :^)

    When I was 8 years old, I came home from school with chicken pox.
    
    I immediately gave them to my 5 year old sister, my 2 year old
    sister, and newborn (few months old) sister.
    
    My mom was not a happy camper!  I think she had to take a week off of
    work to deal with us.

	the Dead played in Oxford Plains Maine when Eli was almost
	a year old - I really wanted to go and I really wanted to
	go without a baby, so I asked my mom if she would come
	take care of my kids for the weekend.  Right before, (I
	guess it must have been) Lara came down with the chicken
	pox, but she was already feeling ok by that weekend.  
	The incubation period was such that Eli would likely come
	down with them right when I wanted to go.  

	I was hoping so bad that he wouldn't get sick because I
	wouldn't want to leave a sick baby with my mom.  He didn't
	get sick and I did get to see those wonderful showz.

	But, when I got home I found out he had broke out in spots
	while I was gone.  Poor Eli.  Poor Mom. 

	but, boy, did -I- luck out on that one!
	Debess

    Well, baarring any last minute disasters, we'll be at SiS tomorrow. If
    you see someone in a dead.net t-shirt looking dazed and confused, its
    probably me...
    
    gary

Kinda reminds me of someone once saying something to the effect of "I'm the one
with the long hair and the tie dye" As I heard that in my long hair and tie dye. 

	I don't know if I should wear a tie dye or a DEChead-T. I know somebody
there will do both.



	But I'll see you there anyway
	Geoff

    I'm *sure* no one else will be looking dazed and confused  %^)
    
    rfb-always

I never had pox, so at this point in my life, i fear it 'cuz it
can cause adults to become quite sick if they catch it.  i hear
there is a cure or something for it, yes?

    There is a vaccine for chicken pox.  I'm tempted to come just
    to have Dan chase JC around ;-)
    
    "See that scruffy looking guy Dan?  Go give him one of your
    nose kisses!"   
    
    We believe he is past the infectious stage at this point...
    
    PeterT
    

Chicken pox can be a serious disease.  Many children are blinded each year.
I wish my kids had avoided the disease until the vaccine was available.

Jim

> Chicken pox can be a serious disease.  Many children are blinded each year.
> I wish my kids had avoided the disease until the vaccine was available.

Apparently the vaccine was developed in the course of fighting childhood
cancer...the available treatments for cancer and leukemia left kids in
such a vulnerable state of health that they would die from *relatively*
mild childhood diseases, such as chicken pox.

Dan

	Cryptical->theOtherOne->Dark Star->Other One->Cryptical

	Heaven!!!  as was the whole day, actually...

	Debess

    
    Sounded like a fun day.  I was up in the Whites with the family.
    Next time for sure!  850 people - yowzaa.  How long did the Sam's last
    with that big a crowd?
    
    	mark
    
    

The whole night, I believe - they knew better this time and must have
stocked on lots of Sam Adams.

I fulfilled a long-standing fanatasy and was able to hijack the PA system
(with da ve's help in convincing the soundman :-) during Slipknot's sets, 
and play Bob Dylan & The Hawks (the Band),  "Royal Albert Hall" (really was 
Manchester), 5-17-66, electric set.  People started boogieing!
Young girls who could be Bob's granddaughters were be-boppin' away!

This is the famous bootleg where someone in the audience yells out "Judas!"
just before Like A Rolling Stone, and Dylan replies "I don't believe you..
you're a LIAR!!...." and then off-mike to the band "Play f*ckin' loud!"

I wish I could play this totally 'lectric Dylan that loud at home. :-)

 - Josh

    That was intense!

	yeah, it was like being back in the early 70's
	first Crosby, Stills & Nash ;-)
	then Janis
	then the Dead
	then Dylan and the Band
	then more Dead

	;-) ;-) ;-)

	re first Crosby Stills and Nash...

		gee, thanks!  

			da ve_the_Crosby_clone  :^)   

> ...and then off-mike to the band "Play f*ckin' loud!"

  Waddya know -- I always heard it as "A f*cking liar".  But now as I replay
  it in my mind's ear...  you're probably right.
  
  Amazing, given the several dozens of people I've introduced to that
  concert...  Nice to have that little piece finally filled in right.  8)
  JayC.

Sorry to abuse the Slipknot note, but given that it's doubling as
the official Chicken Pox status note I figured I'd pass along the
news that Kristin has now developed a much more intense case than
her little brother had.  She's even got one in her mouth...yuck! :-(

Quaker Oats time...

Dan

    i move we institute the
    "O-fish-al Grateful Noters' Childrens' Malady Status Note" so as to
    reiterate, we don't clutter up the Slipknot note.....

>   "O-fish-al Grateful Noters' Childrens' Malady Status Note"

OK by me...and I'll make sure I play my one Slipknot tape to my
sick kid tomorrow, just to be sure that there is some rationalization
behind the piggybacking/hijacking in this note.  Deal? :-)

Dan

    Yeah, Hannah started coming down with the pox last night, about 2 weeks
    to the day that Dan got them.  Dan had a very mild case.  Hannah
    is turning into pox city.  So far she hasn't complained much 
    about the itching yet though.  But it's been hard to get much 
    work done today (working from home...)
    
    PeterT

    Anybody know where the band is playing tonight?

Alston.  Great Scott's, tonight and tomorrow night.

I always keep track - cuz lately, I always have that dancin' jones...

It's a stress thang...;-)

    Thanks Tim!

    I can identify

Who's planning on Slipknotting 2morrow night at the Plantation Club?  If yer
up for a pre-Slip rage, lemme know, the current Chez Guy is available for
RAGING, before we move out :)

send me a note for direx if yer interested in contributing to a noisy Friday eve
for my neighbors :)

Wes

    COOL!
    we get to trash the place before you leave?
    :^)

Ahuhuhu Ahh, NO...I'm just starting to loosen the ol' volume knob a bit...
altho NE1 who was at the Ice Cats game/party last year knows it can get rowdy
in there between the stereo, keyboards, congas etc...

my first week in the new house will be a period of testing the fortitude of the
windows :)

	you'll be trashing (not-so)Grate Woods, leblanc.
	
	i'll be the one holding up ostiguy.  ;-)
	

    Anyone planning on catching SlipKnt on Saturday night in Newton?
    
    There's a good chance that I may convince Roz to come out (since the
    kidz are both off at camp and we can be irresponsible now!).
    
    	dave
    

>    Anyone planning on catching SlipKnt on Saturday night in Newton?
    
hmm.. maybe... I've been to the Attic once before and did not like the
room - too small, crowded, hot, very loud, nowhere to sit or even put down a 
drink, buy that all goes down better with good company!

 - Josh

    re;and we can be irresponsible now!
    
    YOU GUYS!?!?!? IRRESPONSIBLE!?!?!?  NO WAY!!!

i'll be going tonight i tjink.
possible showing at the Ostiguy Estate for the pre-rage too.

    Anybody have the scoop on Slipknot gigs this weekend?  I
    just checked their web page and all they show is June shows.

    Tom

    The Knotline also only lists up to last weekend...

I hear Aug 9 slipknot and jiggle the handle are double billed at
the middle east (?) ... that's the 1 yr anniv...  

i plan to go w/ deb.
my friends Big Joe and his womon Mel will be there.

    
    Hey I think Bruce Mandero band is at white horse this Saturday
    night. If anyones going I'll provide my place for a pre rage.
    
    Cath

Was Slipknot out in Glens Falls this weekend?  I was out visiting
my in-laws and saw a little notice in the paper...Slipknot,
Crispy Critters (great name!) and some other band at East Field.
I didn't make it to the show...

Dan

	there's 2 bands called Slipknot - one from the area you were 
	in, one from MA...

NE1 have the latest KnotSchedule around?  It's Monday, and I'm linin' up the
weekend...;-)

I don't have my handy - actually, I don't have anything handy cuz I'm
unpacking from my latest move...

tim

P.S. The good news is, my stereo is back and I can spin some B.O.J. tapes
soon...as soon as I send some to Dave L, at least...;-)

    
    > It's monday,
    
    It's monday?  ruh roh 
    
    

    Sigh, it's been Monday ALL DAY

    NEway...

>NE1 have the latest KnotSchedule around?  It's Monday, and I'm linin' up the
>weekend...;-)

    Talk about planning ahead!

    web site says Linwood Grille this Friday, 9:45 pm

>    web site says Linwood Grille this Friday, 9:45 pm

    I'll be there, btw.  Anybody else?  

|>    web site says Linwood Grille this Friday, 9:45 pm
|
|    I'll be there, btw.  Anybody else?  

Very likely...

NE1 goin' to the Firehouse in Wormtown 2nite?

WO

Very likely.  

Where, exactly, is the Middle East ?  No, no snide remarks about "go to
Turkey and make a right turn" etc.
Coming from Storrow Drive,  I ?turn up Mass Ave towards Central Sq., then
what?

 Josh

if we can't say "go to Turkey and take a right",
can we say "go to Egypt and take a left"??????  :^)

or how about "go to Israel, or Jordan, or Syria,
or Lebanon and stay there"???

			da ve_who_doesn't_know
			where_in_boston_it_is_so
			he's_forced_to_resort_to_
			snide_remarks  :^)

    
    The middle east is on mass ave in central sq. It's the T stop
    between harvard and kendall.
    
    Sloan

I know Central Sq. fairly well and I still don't know where the M.E. is.
I never take the T so those kinda direx are lost on me.
I need to know how many blocks towards MIT (away from the very center of
Central Sq,  which is defined as where Cheapo Records is :-) the M.E. is.
ahhh screw it, I'll try looking it up in Proximus Geovieer...
I'm rethinking oif I should even go, I need to get up around 6 AM on Sat.
for the hike.  argh..

 - Josh

    jeez Josh...you seem to have this hangup with SLEEP!!!  %^)
    
    rfb

    Start at Cheapo's.  (with your back to it).  You are facing
    across Mass Ave and looking at the subway entrance.

    Taking your nerve in your hands, you cross the street, glancing
    warily to either side of you.

    Now you turn left and walk down the sidewalk (towards, as it
    were, Boston, with your back to Harvard Square).  Um, maybe
    you cross a street or two.  You go by a bunch of stores.
    Suddenly - there it is - on the corner!  If you get to
    the Salvation Army or the corner where Main St splits off,
    you've gone too far.  Another landmark, there's a chinese
    restaurant a few doors past the Middle East.

    Trust in the force, Josh.  & hope to see ya there


    Tom

>    Start at Cheapo's.  (with your back to it).  You are facing

ahh.. finally direx I can deal with :-)

>    Taking your nerve in your hands, you cross the street, glancing
>    warily to either side of you.

you mean..... WALK across Mass Ave?  You gotta be kidding!  I'll have to get
in my car and drive to the other side of Mass Ave in order to survive the
ordeal. :-)

>    Suddenly - there it is - on the corner!  If you get to
oh, so it really IS right in Central Sq.  Guess I don't really know C.S. all
that well! 

>    you've gone too far.  Another landmark, there's a chinese
>    restaurant a few doors past the Middle East.

sorry dude, there's chinese (and Indian) restuarants every 5 feet in C.S. ! :-)


sleep... well, its gonna be about a 6.5 mile hike on a rocky trail, up a
4K'er (or close, I forget how high Mt. Osceola is).  But, it will be very
hot and humid on Sat. with chance of thunderstorms,  Hike's gonna be real a
sweat-a-thon.  I'm bringing a qt. of well-iced gatorade mix and 2 qts of 
regular ice cubes/water in an MSR water-sack for which I'm gonna make an
insulating "coozie" out of Reflextex "bubble-wrap" insulation.

 - Josh

    Josh, 
    
    You might want to be prepared to hike a bit further on your
    Osceola trip if you're going in from Tripoli Road. I was up
    there a couple of weeks ago and they had the road blocked off
    about three-quarters to a mile before you got to the trailhead.
    Don't know why the road was blocked off as there were no
    washouts or overabundance of people camping on the road.
    
    Mike

For those without web access:

Friday, August 9th - Jerry Garcia Tribute at The Middle East, Cambridge, MA 

Slipknot (w/ Buddy Cage) plus Jiggle The Handle. Big jam with members of both
bands at the end.


Friday, August 23rd - The Wong Dynasty, Holden, MA 9:30pm 

Saturday, August 24th - The Whitehorse Inn, Milford, NH 9:30pm 

Friday, August 30th - The Linwood Grille, Boston, MA 9:45pm 

    hate to bring it up but... when's sos?

    
    week after labor day last year wasn't it?

    yup

	9/9 was da date.

Middle East

     472 Mass.  Ave., Central Square, Cambridge, (617) 497- 0576.  A Middle
Eastern restaurant that's also a popular drinking spot, with the most diverse
mix of live music you'll find in the Boston area.  Seven nights a week you
can hear anything from alternative, underground local and national bands to
serious jazz combos.  The restaurant owners also run the bakery next door,
which features live acoustic music nightly, and they have converted the
downstairs bowling alley into one of the best live rooms in the area.  Open
Sun.  through Wed.  from 9 a.m.  to 1 a.m. and on Thurs.  through Sat.  until
2 a.m.  Food served Sun. through Thurs.  until midnight and on Fri.  and Sat.
 until 1 a.m.  Cover $3 to $9.

     Thursday, August 8 Upstairs: (18+) Fade, Chimera, Sofia Run.
 Downstairs: (18+) Lifter, Idaho, Raymond Brake, Jehovah Starbelly.  Corner:
Rush Gershon.

     Friday, August 9 Upstairs: (18+) Mistle Thrush, Difference Engine,
Silverteen.  Downstairs: (18+) Jiggle the Handle, Slipknot.  Corner: Noah
Maltzberger Trio.

> 4K'er (or close, I forget how high Mt. Osceola is).

  You're right...  Osceola & Tecumseh are each essentially 4k -- one's a few
  feet under, the other a few feet over, forget which is which.   - JayC.

    
    Osceola is pretty beefy.  4350' I think.  Tecumseh is an offensive 4050
    or something like that.

>    Osceola is pretty beefy.  4350' I think.  Tecumseh is an offensive 4050
>    or something like that.

  I stand corrected...  Those numbers look right as you typed them.  - JayC.

re         <<< Note 84.331 by DELNI::DSMITH "Can you see the real me" >>>

    
>    Osceola is pretty beefy.  4350' I think.  Tecumseh is an offensive 4050
>    or something like that.


Offensive! :-)

Tecumseh also has no view, or not much of one.
best bet is to hike it from tripoli rd to get it over with.
shortest route up

	is there going to be a Slip Outta Summer this year?

    damn well better be
    
    
    i need dead badly

Also, I thought I heard from someone (Bruce?) that Slipknot would be playing
the brewery in Lowell.  Anyone know anything more about that?
I guess I'll ask Bruce on Saturday.

 - Josh

    Just checked out the Slipnot home page...
    
    Saturday, September 7th, "Slip Out of Summer" w/special guest 
    Buddy Cage and Mocha Java at the Marlboro Fish and Game Club.
    
    Damn, same day as the dentist!  And the start of swimming lessons.
    Hmmm, swimming, dentist, SOS??  Sounds like a good way to tire out 
    the rugrats ;-)
    
    Might be too busy a day for Amy, but then again...
    
    PeterT

Shit! I have to go to Deb's Bro's enRAGEment party.
i'll see if deb will wanna blow it off :)

missin' SOS again, another DRAMA gig...so gig we must

WO

I guess a lot of you will be at Bread and Puppets this weekend, but anyone
else going to the White Horse Inn on Sat ?

 - Josh

	i hope to be there.

     I may be there.....

Saturday night @ Whitehorse is very likely.

Not sure about tonight @ Wong D...mebbe...mebbenot.

Aside from tonight at the Linwood...

Friday, September 6th - Johnny D's, Somerville, MA 9:45pm 

Saturday, September 7th - "Slip Out Of Summer" w/ special guest Buddy Cage 

and Mocha Java at the Marlboro Fish & Game Club, 

Marlboro, MA (outdoors all day and evening - all ages) 

...also, I noticed last night that a flier at Tammany in Worcester shows
Slipknot there on Friday the 13th (of September)...but that's not on their
website yet.

tim

    ya'll have a good time at Slip-outa-Summer this year...Patty and I have
    fond memories of last year and wish we could be there again this
    year. Even though my knee is still not up to heavy dancin...I push it! 
    Maybe next year!!!
    
    rfb

From http://www.xensei.com/users/munzer/index.htm

September

Friday, September 6th - Johnny D's, Somerville, MA 9:45pm 

Saturday, September 7th - "Slip Out Of Summer" w/ special guest 
Buddy Cage and Mocha Java at the Marlboro Fish & Game Club, Marlboro, 
MA 2pm - 10pm (outdoors, all ages, food and drink available, or 
bring a picnic. No bottles or cans. Rain or shine! ) 

Friday, September 13 - Tammany Hall, Worcester, MA 9:45pm 

Friday, September 27th - The Linwood Grille, Boston, MA 9:45pm 

Saturday, September 28th - The Plantation Club, Worcester, MA 9:45pm 

October

Friday, October 4th - Great Scott, Allston, MA 9:45pm 

Saturday, October 5th - Great Scott, Allston, MA 9:45pm 

Friday, October 11th - G. Willickers, Shrewsbury, MA 9:45pm 

Saturday, October 12th - The Club Above, Worcester, MA 9:30pm (Acoustic show !) 

Thursday, October 17th - Harper's Ferry, Allston, MA 9:45pm 

Friday, October 18th - Main St. Brewing Company, Worcester, MA 9:45pm 

	Anyone know the whereabouts of the Club Above?


	Toby

    
    I think thats the one above the Main Street Brewery in Worcestershear.

	according to their web page ...
	
>The Club Above, Worcetsre MA 
	
>(Formerly The Coco Bean) 
	
>Directions coming soon. 
	
	

Jay's got it... used to be the coco bean...  upstairs from the thai place
on Park Ave...

the place upstairs at the brewery has no "special" name...  it's just
the Main St Brewery...

			da ve

>it's just the Main St Brewery...
	
	Main Street Brewing Company
	

yeah... like i said... Jay's got it...   :^)

	former marketeer.
	gotta keep those (TM)s straight.
	

Good Bah to go to!
Good brews!

plus, ya never know who ya might bump into :-)

    These boys have gotta start playing bigger venues.
    
    Tammany was nice, but crowded!  Nice to see MJ there, but no room
    to dance, especially with a coupla hygiene-impaired neo-hippies (c'mon,
    kids, tour is over.  Take a bath)....
    
    Johnny D's, too, was packed and too crowded to dance.  I started
    ragging Leo to find bigger places - he says they're working on doing a
    CD release party at the Paradise, which would be an improvement...
    
    I thought someone here said something about Johnny D's being smoke
    free.  Not.  Stunk - but not as bad as the Tammany audience. ;-)
    
    Sigh.  Maybe better next time...
    
    Anyone have MJ's email address?  She needs the new location of Grateful
    - said she couldn't get in here since the move...
    
    tim
    

>    ragging Leo to find bigger places - he says they're working on doing a
>    CD release party at the Paradise, which would be an improvement...

well geeze Tim, how about the Somerville Theater?  Big enuf for you?  :-)
I agree about Tamany Hall being a real small place though.  Its about the same,
or smaller, than the old Jonathan Swifts where I used to see Max Creek a lot.

I've seen Slipknot mentioned _twice_ in the Boston Globe Friday music
"Rock Notes" section, most recently this past Friday (about the Somerville
show I think).

 - Josh

	what's with this Somerville Theater deal - what's it like to 
	see Slipknot at a place full of seats?!?

      last time I saw slipknot in the sommerville thr., i was dancing
    back and forth in the first row of the balcony which I had all to
    myself....

    
    Sounds pretty good!
    
    I wonder if Max Creek, Slipknot, Jiggle the Handle, The Candles and 
    other dead-related type bands have ever considered renting a huge 
    hall or other outdoor type venue for a massive dead-head outing?

    Somerville Theater has no dance floor, so I'm told.
    
    Harper's is still the best, imho.  Big floor, reasonable beers, late
    hours - sh!tty parking, but one can't have everything at once, eh?
    
    

let's not leave out the often horrid sound that playing
in a cavernous barn like Harper's often gives....  blech...

may be a good hall for dancing in but it's far from being 
my favorite venue...  

there is not dance floor per se at the somerville theatre...
it's never really stopped people before though... :^)  id' much
rather see them in a place like that...

as for all the dead bands getting together in a big place, that's
been bandied about from time to time...  a nice idea but hard to
put together...  fwiw, i think you will see some of that happening
on small scales over time, but maybe not with all the bands you
mentioned...  not only is it logistically difficult, but there are
also egos to contend with... :^)  

as always, imho...  :^)



			da ve

    re;
    Harper's is still the best, imho.  Big floor, reasonable beers, late
        hours - sh!tty parking, but one can't have everything at once, eh?
                                                                             
    
    do they have showers, Tim??
    
    %^)
    
    rfb

    >    do they have showers, Tim??
    
    I just got this one.  Sheesh, I'm slow lately.
    
    The folks at the Tammany certainly could'a used them, but no such luck. 
    I'm not usually so picky but when you can literally smell someone
    coming from 10 ft or more away, it's getting out of hand....and this
    was BEFORE the serious dancing started.
    
    I guess I'm getting old, but this was the first time I can remember
    ever actually wishing someone would light up a nice, big, smelly
    cigar...(or maybe take their glaucoma medicine...even better. ;-)
    
    tim
    

    
    	Above Club tonight (formerly the Cocoa Bean) on Park Ave
    in worcester...  anyone going???  i hear it's an acoustic show...
    
    i missed last week at Tammany... :^(  caught up in some other stuff
    for some other band... :^)
    
    	also, anyone going to the somerville theater show?  
    
    					da ve

	da ve, where abouts on pahk ave? do you know?
	
	it's upstairs from a Thai rest? 
	
	is it closer to Gold Star Blvd or the other end?
	and, coming from GSB, is it on the left or right?
	
	am i asking too many questions?
	
	;-)
	

    
    no you're not asking too many questions...
    
    yes it's abover the thai restaurant...
    
    yes it's closer to Gold Star Bvd...
    
    coming from GDB it's on the right...
    
    near Blue Jeans Pizza, Leitrims Pub, and, i think it's Pleasant Street
    (yes, the same pleasant st as Tammany hall but the far other end)
    
    					da ve

I think the sounds at Harpers is pretty good, espec. when compared to
Johnny D's.  Johnny D's needs to upgrade quite badly.  

    Can anybody confirm a date for S.I.S.?  

    (I am ready!!!)

    Tom

	not just anybody, tom.
	only those that actually know the date.
	
	helpfully,
	

    
    Thank you Jay, between one thing and another you are
    really making my week  :-)

    lol,
    Tom

    every year it has been on the saturday of memorial day weekend...
    i would be surprised if that were to change this year...  by
    my estimationthat would make it may 24th...
    
    						da ve

    Their web site sez May24th - I guess Da ve wins a beer.
    
    Who's buyin'?
    
    My kids have been asking me about the next S.I.S. since a week or two
    after S.O.S....
    
    tim
    

    cool...  i like it when i win a beer...  :^)

    
    stoopid questio alert:
    
    
    	i it OK to camp overnite at the MF&G at S.I.S?
    
    	Toby_who_can't_wait_for_S.I.S.

    
    	it has been done...  i don't think they actually recommend 
    or condone it, but it has been done...
    
    					da ve

    Anyone up for the stoneD church this weekend?
    
    gonna be up in dovah checking out some new property so i'll be swinging
    over there later sometime saturday

    Hey!  The Slipknot web page shows the SIS as an 18+ gig.  :-(
    
    What's the deal?  Anyone know?
    
    	dave
    

    COOL
    maybe i'll find a wife

    leblanc, you'd better go to a sock-hop!

	I have a different interpretation on that probz

	they were talking about shows that are 18+, as opposed to 21+,
	and were listing shows that 18-21 year olds could attend...
	and in that particular case, even though they were zeroing in
	on the 18-21 year olds, and saying that they could attend
	SIS, I still think it will be all ages, as always.

	Debess

       
    > COOL
    > maybe i'll find a wife
    
    	At a Slipknot gig?????
    
    	Hahahahaha hahahha ha ha haha haha
    
    	rotf

reread the note Chris, it was a + sign  :)

BTW, thanks to Mr. Leblanc for the ski hookup


jeff

    speaking from personal experience, you never know who or what you may 
    find at a slipknot gig....  :^)  :^)  :^)
    
    					da ve

    i'll pass on hearing about the "or what" part thank you da ve

    The Shakedown homepage bosts of Sahkedown being the medium where
    several meetings took place that ended in marriages, with only one
    known divorce. Think positive, Cris!!!
    
    rfb

    Yeah, but too many relationships end in marriage.  ;-)
    

    biased tim?

    re;
    Yeah, but too many relationships end in marriage.  ;-)
    
    that is a problem with some folks, ain't it? %^)

    actually Chris, i thought the "or what" part would be of considerable 
    interest to you......  :^)  :^)  :^)
    
    					da ve

    
    My experience from meeting women at Slipknot gigs is 
    generally "f^ck off buddy"
    
    Not even a chance.  >:-/

    wow
    
    
    that is the same thing i get at slipknot gigs......
    
    
    and in bars.....
    and in line at the bank......and the supermarket......or at the
    mall.....
    

    REF: Last       I knew you would you respond, but we all know better

    
    at family events
    the doctors office
    my employer...  ;-)

    family events
    
    
    
    whoa
    
    
    problems

    Isn't that a Jeff Foxworthy joke? "You know you might be a redneck,
    when you go to family reunions to pick up women"...
    
    Look at the bright side, guys.  At least you're consistent. ;-)
    

	except for Deane-o's cousins,

	WHAT'S WRONG WITH THESE WOMEN?!?

	;-) ;-) ;-)

          <<< Note 84.468 by UCXAXP::GRADY "Squash that bug! (tm)" >>>

>    Isn't that a Jeff Foxworthy joke? "You know you might be a redneck,
>    when you go to family reunions to pick up women"...
    
Foxworthy would say chicks....
   

    is chicks considered offensive?

    >    is chicks considered offensive?
    
    That's "ARE chicks considered offensive?", and generally I'd say no.
    
    ;-)
    

    chicks is as chicks does

    re Debess in .469
    
    
    	must be some of my old girlfriends....  :^)
    
    					da ve_being_the_exception_that_
    					proves_the_rule

    re;"ARE chicks considered offensive?", and generally I'd say no
    
    my daughters can damned offensive when they want to be,,,,

    i hear you
    
    i lived with 6...
    
    count em.........
    *6* in college......and boy that put any locker room talk i had
    experienced as a young buck TO SHAME!

|    *6* in college......and boy that put any locker room talk i had
|    experienced as a young buck TO SHAME!
    
    Let me get this straight.  You lived with a group of SIX women in college, 
    and now....you're looking for sympathy?
    
    Help me understand just where you think things went wrong....;-)
    

    
    I get hugs at slipknot shows. what's wrong with you guys?
    
    s l o a n

    they ugly, you not????
    
                      %^)
    
    rfb_who has no right to talk about someone else bein ugly

    yeah the most i get at slipknot gigs is........
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    drunk?

    
    > drunk?
    
    Thats the most I'sa ever gots.
    
    

    but with the right medication........

    18+ how many is what i need to know 
    ;-)
    

    
    plantation club saturday night is the ticket! might have to go.
    
    sloan

I will be making an appearance with my buddy John Watt.
Oh yeah, I'll most likely be tying a good one on...
ahh...


   <<< Note 84.484 by SEND::SLOAN "Wind in the willows plays tea for two" >>>
                              -< a plan perhaps >-

    
    plantation club saturday night is the ticket! might have to go.
    
    sloan

    
    I'm planning on going too!
    
    gotta work til 8  tho   8-(
    
    
    Toby

    
    i'm looking forward to hitting the platation. don't know if i'm going
    solo or not but i'll most likely be there.
    
    the new drummers are great. 
    
    Cath

	i hope to be going, too.
	

going skiing - probably Attatash, maybe Kmart or Loon.  maybe when the snows
finally good and gone... got new tele skies/boots (Rossi Black Widow, Scarpa T3)
I gotta try out, or else I'll be really cranky for 8 months :)

 - Josh

    
    Can't make Saturday...
    
    Going to a little gathering with folks from singles_chat.
                          
    

    i haven't made a slipknot show in soooooo long....  :^(  and i actually
    could have gone on saturday cuz i had an early gig (private party) and
    was out in time...  but by the time i got home and unloaded, the pillow
    was calling my name in very seductive tones....
    zzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZzz....
    
    besides, gotta save up those dollars and brain cells for the Jazz Fest
    in NOLA nex week...  :^)
    
    
    					da ve_with_a_music_jones

re: da ve

twas a good time... come to think of it, one of your bandmates
what as slipknot and he was sayin' how yall had an early gig..

    ahhh yes... that would have been Ed...  :^)  he's become a huge knot
    fan in the last couple of years...  he's also singing wiht Bruce in the 
    Bruce band a lot..
    
    				da ve

    
    	Hi.  Could someone point me to the reply that has a recent
    schedule?  I haven't seen 'knot in years, and unfortunately do really
    have time to scan all these replies.  I did a quick backwards dir on
    the last 100 replies, but most have no title.
    
    	Mondo appreciatto,,,,,,,
    
    			thanks, Glen(n)
    

    best bet for a schedule is the web site...
    
    www.xensei.com/users/munzer/

	the only thing on the website right now is:
	
	Friday, April 25, Linwood Grille
	
	

    I did the Linwood on Friday, and was pleased by two things that were
    quite unusual for them: a.) A smaller than usual crowd, allowing enough
    space to dance.  The Linwood is usually packed.  Could be the newly
    raised $6 cover, or more competition in the area, I dunno...but it was
    nice....and b.) Very early on, several very inebriated collegiate male
    types were making themselves an obstacle right up front.  This is
    usually an omen of a long, unpleasant night, but much to my surprise,
    the management tossed them before the end of the first set...very
    unusual.  All told, it was a nice time, and a well needed aerobic
    experience...
    
    

I know why the Linwood was NOT packed:
Everyone was at Harpers!

Deano and i took a chance oni this band called 'Entrain' ..
they play what i would call carribbean-sounding music (aka Ska).
the place was packed !
great time.
never made it home (stayed at deano 'cuz i wasd blotto)
thanks for driving deano!!

Harpers: i never have a bad time there!

    entrain
    cape cod based band aren't they?

Vinyard I reckon


    <<< Note 84.499 by WMOIS::LEBLANCC "All good things in all good time" >>>
                       -< nantucket? martha's vineyard >-

    entrain
    cape cod based band aren't they?

    
    entrain is pretty friggin smoking rollicking hot.
    
    Will go see them again in second!

May 
Friday,   May 17th - TBD 
Saturday, May 24th - Slip Into Summer Festival (Memorial Day Weekend) 
                     at the Marlboro Fish and Game Club in
                     Marlboro, MA. w/ Another Planet and The Last Waltz 
Friday,   May 30th - Pearl St., Northampton, MA 18+ 
Saturday, May 31st - Tammany Hall, Worcester, MA 
more to come soon !

June 
Saturday, June  7th - The Paradise, Boston, MA Early show: 8pm-11pm 18+ 
Saturday, June 21st - The Plantation Club, Worcester, MA 
more to come soon !

July 
more to come soon!

August 
Saturday, August 9th - The Somerville Theater "Tribute to Jerry Garcia" 
                       w/ Jiggle The Handle 
more to come soon! 

    
    >Saturday, May 24th - Slip Into Summer Festival (Memorial Day Weekend) 
    >                     at the Marlboro Fish and Game Club in
    
    I reckon thats memorial day weekend.
    
    Not cool, not cool.
    
    Gonna be hiking around the White Mountains.
    

    Is The Last Waltz a Band tribute band?  These days, you could probably
    get the real Band (what's left) to play at SiS.
    
    Btw, I heard an ad for an Alanis Morrisette tribute band with a funny
    name that I can't remember.  It wasn't Chalkboard Fingernails, was it?
    
    Jamie

    <---------------------------
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    now *THAT* is humor

    I dunno;  must be time for new glasses again...  when I read
    deano's note the first time, I saw something completely different...
    I musta been desperate for something to contradict...
    
    sigh!!
    
    must be time for vacation!

    
    
    the 24th... dang.... I have a) wedding  b) camping pahty or
    c)  Slipknot..... I'm sooo confused
    
    
    
    Toby

    
    Definitely bag the wedding.
    
    camping or slipknot is a tough call though.

    
    i forget if I asked this or not
    
    
    can you spend the nite at M F & G???
    
    I could get psyched if I could crash on site
    
    
    Toby

memorial day w-end... i'd like to go for the hike w/
deano/steve-o... we'll have to see ,,,,

backpacking is *very hard* to turn down!

    
    Well, slipknot's at the plantation this weekend. Good time to warm
    up for SIS.
    
    Sloan

    ok, so did anyone here go to the friday slipknot show???
    
    i heard this weekend (2nd or 3rd hand) that David Gans sat 
    was in town, and sat in with the boys...  word i heard was that he
    was very impressed and would like to do something with them
    at some future point...
    
    anyone go?  is it true?  how was it????
    
    inquiring da ve's need to know!
    
    					da ve

	Gans -was- in town this weekend - he broadcasted live an extra hour
	before the GDhour on Sat nite - I kinda caught it, but I was reading
	a book so didn't really listen to him talk ;-) - he did mention
	being invited and going to see Slipknot and that he was impressed,
	etc etc - I don't remember him saying that he played with them -	
	but like I said, I wasn't really listening...

	Debess

    from what lynn..larry's girlfriend said to me....gans was at the art
    exhibit and someone mentioned this "cool band was at the linwood that
    night" so he went over...met the band and jammed with them.....
    
    
    the art show was very cool as well
    
    
    there was a marquee from the "show of all shows" there
    too bad it wasn't for sale

    
    i talked wiht Bruce a little while ago...  Gans sang but did not
    play...  Bruce was psyched...  apparently so was Gans and he told
    them he'd make a good mention of them on his show and might be able
    to work with them on some stuff in the future...  now big plans or
    promises, but they all had fun...  Bruce, is characteristically cool
    about it...  "yeah... he came and sat in for a few tunes, and it was
    cool..."  :^)  he discounts the "embellished version" of the tale that
    has Gans setting up national tours for the knot...  :^)
    
    Bruce is starting his annual stressing about weather for saturday... 
    anyone caring to make sacrificial offerings to the wreather gods is
    encouraged to do so...  :^)
    
    					da ve

    I remember there was a discussion about age restrictions at SIS
    a while back, but my short-term memory ain't all it could be :-)
    Can I bring my kids to SIS (ages 4 to 12)? Anyone else planning 
    on doing that?
    
    - Dave (still undecided)

Kids are definitely welcome.  Mine will be there.  Other
DECheads will be bringing theirs.  Unless of course there
is a deluge, in which case we'll be home...

But I'd rather be at SIS, as would my kids...

PeterT  

    yes to kids...  the 18+ tag was unfortunate but it was applied
    because it's the "usual" label for "bar" shows where underaged kids are
    welcome...
    
    i will probably be there for part of the show and i will have
    my 16 year old daughter with me...  :^)  her first knot show... :^)
    
    					da ve

	My kids won't be coming.

		I've yet to make plans to have them!  	8^}


					davet.singleandlovingit

    those of us who act like kids will be there too

My kids have been waiting since Labor day for this one.
They'll be there.

Good news about Gans.  Glad to see the boys get some
well-deserved attention -maybe now they can get gigs
in places big enough to hold their crowd and still
have room to dance! ;-)

tim

    
    
    I am not sure about bringing my kids yet.  If we do, I'm making sure
    I've got backup wheels to get home.  I am pumped for a day of dancing
    and partying, and not necessxarily in that order.  Yahooooo!
    

    
    Anyone know what time SIS starts this year?
    
    Sloan

I plan on getting there at 6...............am.

	lookin' forward to a grate time.......and my first Slipknot show!!!

				....davet.

I'm still not sure if I'm going to SIS or not.  I'm going to spend the rest of
the weekend at my parents' in NYC...if it looks like rain on Sat. then I'll
likely not be going to SIS.

 - Josh

    The flier lists the Last Waltz as starting about 2PM.  Slipnot should
    start somewhere around 6.  Another Planet about 4.
    
    PeterT
    

    Weather report:  sun turning to partly cloudy, maybe a few
    showers towards or at night.  Hmmmm, sounds like the typical
    SIS weather report...
    
    PeterT
    

So. what sort of tunes does Last Waltz play?  Are they really into the Band
or just sound that way from the name ?   Inquiring Band-fan wants to know!

 - Josh

    re my .504
    
    >Is The Last Waltz a Band tribute band?  These days, you could probably
    >get the real Band (what's left) to play at SiS.
    
    I take that back, Rick Danko has been arrested in Japan on suspicion of
    heroin possesion.  :-(
    
    I'll be there with family in tow.  We'll leave with me in tow.
    
    Jamie

    The 'flyer' says of the Last Walts "tunes from the Band, Little Feat,
    and more'
    
    PeterT

    the last walts...  From the Vaults... a little known Micky Mouse
    Woody Woodpecker adventure.
    
    

    
    SOS last year was predicted as showers.  I checked radar 3 hrs before
    the show and there was a sprinkle here and there.  Well, as soon as the
    show started, twas a washout!!!  We'll see.

    Anybody know anything about vending at SIS?  Is it just set up your own
    thing, or do they need to contact Slipknow or Marlboro F&G first?
    I've got a friend who's got a friend who makes bead things and they
    (our friend) wanted us to check for their friend.  Offhand
    I'd say just bring your stuff, but it doesn't hurt to check.
    Should I send mail to the Slipknot email (munzer?) or maybe
    Geoff Keller would know?
    
    Thanks,
    PeterT
    

    a better person to call would be Leo Gauthier, thier manager...
    his number is on the web page i believe...  
    
    vending is somewhat loosely organized to try and prevent lots of the
    same stuff and make it easier to set up ahead of time...  i do not
    believe it's a case of "justbelieve it to be a case of "just bring yor
    stuff and set up..."
    
    					da ve

Latest weather report shows rain late Saturday
night...but not sooner.  We'll see.  SOS was soggy,
but SIS last year was fine.

Last time I brought a tent.  It worked out quite
well, and I'll do so again this time.

	What's SIS cost?

	Is there beer sold?

	What about other type food?

Chris

    problee 10 beans
    
    beer is sold but some have been known to drink their own
    
    i say pack a lunch

    >>in & out privs?
    
    there's easy access to the parking lot which is inside
    the gate - so going back and forth to your vehicle is
    no problem. I don't think they allow cans and/or bottles
    in.

    yup
    
    
    "plastic Mrs Robinson.......plastic"

Debess,
Not sure if you got my mail.
I'll have the cornell show for you at SIS.

    >>listen to the sponge
    
    hey! is that some sort of derogatory comment?
    
    some mite take it as a compliment!

i recently heard a friend say that she was thinking about having a
party on august 9 to celebrate Jerry ... another friend turned to
her and said "have it on august 1 to celebrate his birthday" ...

good point !  much rather celebrate a birthday than a bummer day


> August 9th - The Somerville Theater "Tribute to Jerry Garcia" 
>              Slipknot  w/ Jiggle The Handle 
 

    
    RE: i recently heard a friend say that she was thinking about having a
    party on august 9 to celebrate Jerry ... another friend turned to
    her and said "have it on august 1 to celebrate his birthday" ...
                        
    That would be me and Debess. Cool.
    
    See ya tomorrow at SIS Armand?
    
    Cath

you might see me slip in for awhile ... probably won't be able to
swing it til around 4:00 or so ... i'll take a look around, see
who's there ... 

anyone have directions ?  i live in northboro, not too far away ...
looking forward to a cool weekend - percy hill tonight, sis saturday,
percy hill & strangefolk sunday, and if the weather's looking good,
hopefully make a trek up tuckermans monday ... anyone up for a cool
hike monday ?  lemme know ... arm 
 

    
    just a short note about bringing in alcohol to SIS
    
    	PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    bringing in alcohol puts the clubs liquor license at risk...
    this is a cool place for us and the people that run it have been
    very accomodating...  if you remember the northboro fish and game 
    club, it's stuff like that that ruined that venue for this event...
    
    the club let's slipknot use the property at a very low price...
    they would have real problems putting on the show without them...
    the only money the club makes on this event is the barbecue and the
    bar...
    
    PLEASE DO NOT BRING IN ALCOHOL...  PLEASE PATRONIZE YOUR HOSTS'
    OPERATION AND HELP KEEP THIS A HAPPY HAPPENING.......  the club
    needs your supprt too...
    
    i am not a member of slipknot and i will not benefit from this event
    in any way, shape, or form... having been a part of it since it's
    inception though, as an attendee, performer, worker, and friend of the
    band, i feel confident in speaking for the organizers in this...
    
    please be cool and follow the rule...
    
    			on behalf of the boyz, thank you
    
    	
    						da ve

yahhh, besides, last year they had plenty of Sam Adams on tap. Can't really
complain _too_ much about that!

Sadly, I can't make SIS this year - gotta do the NYC thing tomorrow. 
I'm bummed that I'm missing the Last Waltz.  Someone keep a setlist for me!

 Josh

armand,
i may hike on sunday/monday.
NO way will i do tucks this weekend because 200000
other people are going to do it. not my idea of getting
out in the wilderness.
send mail to ferguson@ma.ultranet.com

jc

    
    That SIS was pretty impressive!!!
    
    (the condition I put myself in was also somewhat impressive!)
                  
    Anyhow, yesterday I spent the day hiking the around the Long Trail in
    Vermont and it put an excellent cap on a too-short long weekend.

    i take it attendance records were once again shattered

Attendance records were not the only thing
shattered that day.

ouch.
i think i took a year off my life.
double ouch.
took most of the day sunday to recover.
triple ouch.

cool show !  cool venue to - right down the street from my house !
convenient stroll over to a fishin hole, nice if you just wanted to
break away for awhile, maybe break out a sandwich or anything else
you might've brought in for a snack  :)

would've been up for hiking tuckerman's yesterday  (despite the fact
that it would've been the most crowded weekend of the year)  but
after three shows in three days, with a hike on saturday, among other
things  :)  there wasn't a whole lotta gas in the legs (or maybe i'm
just gettin old)

fryday's percy hill show in andover was grate, got there to catch the
second set, where Dave Todd & Mike were already dancing up a storm ...
second set ripped !  cool venue, old town hall in andover, with the
windows open, it stayed nice & cool, perfect for dancin

saturday we hiked mount watatic in ashburnham, mass ... grate weather,
the bugs were out in full force, but the hike was well worth putting
up with the winged warriors ... clear views of mount wachusett and
southern NH/VT  (they've torn down the old fire-watchtower that used
to be on top of mount watatic, probably due to safety hazard - many of
those old wooden stairs were starting to rot)

on to SIS - nice show !  got there late, slipknot was already jammin
and the crowd was in high spirits !  i thought they were a straight
dead-cover band, kinda blew my mind when they went into phish's
"ac/dc bag" ... seemed like they weren't really into it either, maybe
it was a request for a friend or something ... they kicked off the
second set with the Allman Brother's "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed"
and later played "One Way Out" ... outside of this, it was all Dead
covers, and they put on a grate show !  i'd post a setlist, but i'm
sure i'd screw it up, so i'll leave it to someone else ... for some
reason, i suffer from memory loss  :)

sunday was grate - made our way up to portsmouth NH to catch a fine
Percy Hill & Strangefolk show in the Music Hall - a cool place to
catch a show, outside the fact that 1200 dancing fans can heat up
the place in a hurry - we musta lost ten pounds gettin sweaty ...
by the end of the show, we knew a hike up tuckerman's monday was
out of the question ... 

monday was such a grate day - bikin, vball, frisbee, grillin, dug,  :)

looks like rain saturday, but if there is a good weather day this
weekend, we'll try for tuckermans again ... 

arm

Hey guys,
	
	I had a grate time at SIS this past w/end.  It was cool seeing
Sloan and Debess again.  I was hoping to see a few more of you out there, 
but have only met some of you once and probably walked right by without
any recognition. Lame excuse.  Going to be looking for more rages this summer
to get to know some of you a little more.
  
	My friend Mike from New York was in town for Percy Hill shows this
w/end and was able to make it to SIS with us.  He really enjoyed it and is
looking to come back for SOS(?).  Anyone that couldn't have guessed that?


	Three cheers for happenin' outdoor shows!!!

				....davet.
	
	

    Sorry I missed most of you.  I have advice, never argue
    with your SO during a show!  It rilly kills the mood!

    I *did* buy some cool tie-dyed shorts, tho ;-)

    Tom

    
    Grate time at SIS!!!
    
    even though i had to pahk the cah in the next friggin county
    (not to mention all the Poison Ivy everywhere's.  Very nice
    pahty-in wif the DEC-heads.  I was "Calked" to say the least
    nice seeing Allenhead, da ve, DaveB, Debess, JC-n-Deb, Sloan
    Deano, Leblanc & meeting Mnelson!!!  sorry if I forgot anyone
    
    
    Toby

>saturday we hiked mount watatic in ashburnham, mass ... grate weather,
>the bugs were out in full force, but the hike was well worth putting
>up with the winged warriors ... clear views of mount wachusett and
>southern NH/VT  (they've torn down the old fire-watchtower that used
>to be on top of mount watatic, probably due to safety hazard - many of
>those old wooden stairs were starting to rot)

that fire tower came down in Dec '96 or so.  most likely becuase
of its hazardous condition ! btw, the skiing on the back side (used
to be a ski area) is very good if you get enough snow.  i skied it a
few times in '94-'95... cut fresh tracks through 3' along the treelines.
ahhhh


re: slipknot/phish
AC/DC bag is the only phish tune they do that i know of.  i believe
the only guy into phish is the kb player.  bruce doesn't like phish
at all, so i'm told.  personally, i'd like to see slipknow pick up
a few more phish songs.

cough cough.
i think i'm getting a cold and i'll
be forced to go see my Doctor in the White Mtns tomorrow...
hmm, Dr. Moosilauke?  nah, just saw him 3 wks ago.  perhaps
Dr. Sandwich?  Dr. Lafeyette?  all good Dr.'s :-)

>    pahty-in wif the DEC-heads.  I was "Calked" to say the least

Cocked !!!!!
Calked !!!! (i like this one!)
Toby, you crack me up.
:-)

    jc i disagree
    
    
    they are "slipknot!"
    
    
    not "ac/dc shwag"

i was surprised to hear ac/dc bag ... sounded like the band really
wasn't into playing it either ... i'd much rather hear a dead tune
played with enthusiasm than any other tune played half-heartedly

my first time checking out slipknot! ... i'd check 'em out again !
 
too bad we didn't get to meet up with more decheads ... maybe at
the gathering of the vibes festival - june 21-22

.

    
    re:  I have advice, never argue with your SO during a show! 
    
    To0 bad Tom - I hate when that happens! The end of SIS was
    a drag for me also -- my advice, is if you're going to have fun 
    come with people that are considerate (or come alone) and limit 
    dependencies on yourself. If not you could ruin your buzz (i hate 
    when that happens).  I had 2 friends from out of town that wanted 
    to leave early and/or get stuff out of my car but could'nt because 
    another friend that rode with me disappeared with the keys for hours.  
    Rage.  I did have fun until it got dark and had to spend most of 
    the second slip set scanning the grounds for my keys.
    
    Sloan
    
                                          
    

	re: fighting with SO ruining the mood of the day
	
	tom, ya gotta do what I do, run around all day visiting
	with everyone, crossing paths with your SO every once in
	awhile for a dance or whatever...but keep moving!!!

	I had a totally *!excellent!* time all day long.  The
	weather couldn't have been beat.  Missed the first two
	acts myself, cause I was elsewhere, visiting ;-)

	Capt. Fejj was saying there were over 1200 people there!
	Cool!

	It was wonderful seeing all the exDECheads, who I only
	get to see maybe once or twice a year.  Charlotte, Fog'n'Rach,
	Slash, Reilly, Tina, Chris and Sparky, Rochelle, DC - and
	all the new babies and not-babies-anymore!  Really getting
	a sense of time passing watching these youngsters grow up.

	and, a great contingent of folks from here -> muchas gracias
	for making it the splendiforous occasion that it was!

	oh yeah, and Slipknot! - danced my feet off!  thanks!  I 
	needed that.

    You guys are great, thanks for the feedback.  I've always
    had trouble controlling my moods!  Just a moody guy I guess!

    Always learning...

    Just wanted to get it off me chest.

    There's better things to do than have a bad time  :-)

    Tom

	Cath, glad to see you made it home ...cause the last
	thing I remember saying to you (as you were looking for your
	keys) is "don't worry, we won't leave you stranded here"...
	and then I never saw you again :-} 

I got there late - just after six, as 'knot was playin' "Deal".
We brought the total to over 1120, according to the guys at the
door, and I heard later that it was closer to 1400...not surprising.
Great crowd, though.  Huge.

I didn't get to hang out with as many of the gang as I'd wanted to,
but next time I suppose I'll do better.  I set a record of my own
on this one - brought five teenagers with me (two of mine, and
three of their friends) who all raved about the event...it was a bit
distracting, though...  Just doing my part in contributing to the
delinquincy of minors. ;-)  They had a blast - my daughter's
boyfriend is still thanking me...

ac/dc bag is Mark's idea (the kb player).  Too bad they didn't 
choose a better tune, imho - I've been needling Bruce to play
Possum for about two years now, but he's just not into Phish at all...
His usual response is very concise: "No." ;-)

The Paradise will be interesting next month....

tim

    What i wanna know is what was up with the demolition derby yahoos in
    the worcester parking lot after the show?

"Possum" would be the rage and would certainly
have people dancin' like crazy.  too bad they don't
want to cover it.


yeah, 'tis a bummer to get in a tiff with your SO
(or friends for that matter).  i must admit, i do kinda
like being driven around these days vs. having to constantly
be on a strict buzz maint. program so i can drive later!