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Conference rdvax::grateful

Title:Take my advice, you'd be better off DEAD
Notice:It's just a Box of Rain
Moderator:RDVAX::LEVY::DEBESS
Created:Thu Jan 03 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:580
Total number of notes:60238

278.0. "Hair ye, hair ye" by BUSY::IRZA (The compass always points to Terrapin) Thu Aug 06 1992 12:13

    
       This is inspired from a note of a previous incarnation.
    
       So....what type of hair style are you sportin' these days? 
       Are you letting it grow long, or did you shave your head in
       protest of the olympic officials overturning the US volleyball
       victory over Japan?
    
       As for me, i'm seriously considering getting some dreadlocks.
       Anybody know a good dreadlock stylist?
                                                   ^dave
    
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278.1Ahhhh! A note for me!!! :-)DRINKS::WEISSEight Canadian dollars I'll never spend.Thu Aug 06 1992 12:469
Well, I'm *trying* to get my hair (on the top of my head) to grow long...

The problem is getting it to grow down, without getting that
mid-seventies-mod-squad-afro-look.  I want it to get long enough to
cover the hair on the back of my neck :-|.

Now, the hair on my back...For that, I'm considering dreadlocks... :-)

Harry-Dave
278.2gimme a head with hair ...CUPTAY::BAILEYSeason of the WinchThu Aug 06 1992 12:537
    >> I'm *trying* to get my hair (on the top of my head) to grow long...
    
    Well, I'm trying to get my hair (on the top of my head) to grow ...
    period! ... ;^)
    
    ... Bobbb (who looks like the "before" shot of Sy Sperling)
    
278.3DIEHRD::CRAVENSpanish Castle MagicThu Aug 06 1992 13:178
    I've got hair that's a bit wavyish/curlyish in some places.  It's
    just...hair. :)  Kinda short.  I like to keep it a little short,
    because it gets dry and a bit hard to comb when it starts getting
    longer.  And the hair on the back of my head starts getting REALLY dry
    and it sticks up and it doesn't like me at ALL. :)  So I keep it
    relatively short when I can.
    
    Rob
278.4Harry Daveego!LJOHUB::GILMOREA Fly can't Bird but a Bird can FlyThu Aug 06 1992 13:329
    Hey Dave, look at it this way, if you ever do need to
    call New England Associates . . . they can transplant
    the hair from your back to your head!
    
    In fact!  Maybe they'll buy some from you!  You could
    have some big bucks!!
    
    :-) sparky_who_seriously_wants_to_move_'cause_the_water_in_
    Nagog_is_drying_out_my_hair (among various other abuses)!
278.5I'm not just the president...I'm the supplier...DRINKS::WEISSEight Canadian dollars I'll never spend.Thu Aug 06 1992 13:569
> In fact!  Maybe they'll buy some from you!  You could
>    have some big bucks!!

Hey, Bobbb!  Whatchya' think?  Is there a market here???  Wanna be my
honorary 1st customer...

:-)

Dave
278.6SCOONR::GLADUThu Aug 06 1992 14:043
    Last year I had a ponytail, this year it's short. In either case it's
    always unmanageably curly. I'm about to cut it even shorter tonight. 
    Any suggestions? :-)
278.7GIAMEM::CONNORSThu Aug 06 1992 14:054
    
    Dave Weiss' back hair on Bobbb's head.....  
    
    yikes!
278.8just say no to scissors!GIAMEM::CONNORSThu Aug 06 1992 14:072
    
    let it grow, Ger
278.9EBBV03::SMITHwe were meant to be hereThu Aug 06 1992 14:1611
	I got myself something just short of a crewcut yesterday,
	I love it!  Showers are shorter, collegues are friendlier,
	bugs are much kinder!

	I used to have long hair, beard and a mustache.  It was
	more of a hassle.  I cut it short for practical and comfort
	reasons. 

	
	
278.10LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureThu Aug 06 1992 14:2120
>    Any suggestions? :-)

Ger, I think you should shave it off except for a peace sign in the fuzz.

;^/   :-)

>    always unmanageably curly.

	as someone with straight hair I disagree with this sentiment.
	I know - you and Phyllis could argue with me about the virtues
	of straight hair vs curly hair but the grass is always greener
	on the other side you know....

that's why they have perms and hair relaxers

Lisa_whose_hair_is_longer_than_it_ever_was_and_who_decided_to_grow_out_
her_bangs_even_though_they_are_currently_at_a_very_obnoxious_point_and_
who_hasn't_had_a_perm_in_over_a_year_and_probably_won't_get_another


278.11Just letting it grow now.LJOHUB::GILMOREA Fly can't Bird but a Bird can FlyThu Aug 06 1992 14:5113
    Deane -- your hair looks mahvelous!
    
    Since it *was* my idea, I think I should be cut in on this
    action.
    
    Funny story about my hair:
    
    	When I was a kid I had hair down to my butt.
    	Then one day I had it in a ponytail and couldn't get out the
    		elastic.
    	So I cut my whole ponytail off.
    
    My mother wouldn't speak to me for 2 years.
278.12TLE::ABBOTJ. R. "Bob" Dobbs in 92Thu Aug 06 1992 15:368
    Why didn't you just cut the elastic?
    
    Re: Dave - how do you just have someone make dreadlocks?  I've always
    wondered how one got their hair to do that.  Do they just not brush it
    and it kinda knots itself up?
    
    Scott_with_no_style_at_all
    
278.13they look cool anyway!BUSY::IRZAThe compass always points to TerrapinThu Aug 06 1992 15:437
    re: Scott
    
       i'm not really sure, someone told me before that it was all in the
     way you wash it?? i imagine the they must do some type of chemical
     treatment to it. i'm always up for chemical treatments ;^)
    
                                                  ^reggae_dave
278.14Meow!DIEHRD::CRAVENSpanish Castle MagicThu Aug 06 1992 15:545
    I thought that to make dreadlocks, you didn't wash your hair for a
    while and then they put some goop in it.  Like Crisco or something. 
    But I could be VERY VERY wrong.  As usual. :)
    
    Rob
278.15phun phactCSCMA::M_PECKARspinning that curious senseThu Aug 06 1992 16:104
My unnerstanding is that dreeadlocks are created by washing your hair in 
seawater.

278.16Ahhh Haaa! So *thats* it!EMMI::SYMONDSThu Aug 06 1992 16:1912
    
    > Lisa_whose_hair_is_longer_than_it_ever_was_and_who_decided_to_grow_out_
    > her_bangs_even_though_they_are_currently_at_a_very_obnoxious_point_and_
    >  who_hasn't_had_a_perm_in_over_a_year_and_probably_won't_get_another
       
    
    	I *KNEW* you looked different when I saw you at the Plantation!
    	When I drove down to Hartford with you, your hair was much
    	shorter...
    
    	FWIW:  I'm a fan of long(er) hair - wish I could practice it a 
    	bit more realistically...	
278.17LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureThu Aug 06 1992 16:384
It's all part of a disguise Ken.  Unfortunately, Jum still recognizes me.  :-)


278.18Ok, so is it Dreds or Dreads? I ponderLJOHUB::GILMOREA Fly can't Bird but a Bird can FlyThu Aug 06 1992 17:0612
    My understanding of Dreds:
    
    My friend Tammy had her hair cornrowed in Jamaica, she didn't take
    them out for 3 months.  They dreadded big time.  I think you either
    need some braids that are there for eons, or you can not wash/comb
    it very often.
    
    Hmm, I really don't know.
    
    I do know that when she wanted her hair to be normal, she ended up
    having to cut out all the dreds.  You could not simply comb or brush
    them out.
278.19ROADKL::INGALLSWish I was a Nomad, Indian or St.Thu Aug 06 1992 17:298
I've decided to grow a pony-tail back for the first time since freshman year
in college - it's actually starting to get long enough to call a pony-tail  :^)

I''m not getting a haircut until I get back from kayaking the Grand Canyon next
November... 

Glenn
278.20CSLALL::HENDERSONThis could be the last timeThu Aug 06 1992 17:2917

RE:   <<< Note 278.17 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "discover the wonders of nature" >>>


>It's all part of a disguise Ken.  Unfortunately, Jum still recognizes me.  :-)



 Unfortunately indeed....all this time I thought you were someone else..:-)





 Jum

278.21SELL1::ROBERTSa blinding flash o'the obviousThu Aug 06 1992 17:2910
    Re: .11
    
    >My mother wouldn't speak to me for 2 years
    For me, that would be a plus!  My mother is always complaining about my
    hair.  Right now it is shoulder length and naturally wavy (like the
    little girl in Peanuts) and the strangest thing has happened .. there
    is all this grey in it!  Not just touches of grey..lots of grey
    ....like in Jum's beard.
    
    carol
278.22CSLALL::HENDERSONThis could be the last timeThu Aug 06 1992 17:3516

RE:     <<< Note 278.21 by SELL1::ROBERTS "a blinding flash o'the obvious" >>>

   >    is all this grey in it!  Not just touches of grey..lots of grey
   > ....like in Jum's beard.
    
   

   :-)  And a few more on my head lately :-/





 Jum
278.23SLOHAN::FIELDSMewowowowow I'm HungryThu Aug 06 1992 17:403
    gee I was thinking that Im get more grey in my beard and on top of the
    head but then I think of Jum and well I feel so much better :') I rilly
    don't have that much !
278.24CSLALL::HENDERSONThis could be the last timeThu Aug 06 1992 18:093

 Gee thanks...I think :-)
278.25SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Thu Aug 06 1992 18:1522
Mine is down to my butt right now and probably needs a trim 8-).  My 
hair used to be down to my knees in high school before I cut it all the
way up to my shoulders senior year.  Everyone fainted when I walked in
the next day 8-).  After I cut it off, my head felt at least a pound
lighter 8-).  I keep my bangs short (of course, otherwise, they wouldn't
be bangs now, would they?? ;-).  I plan to keep my hair around the same
length, but not pass my butt (otherwise other problems crop up such as
making sure you yank it up when visiting the lady's room 8-P ;-)  If I
don't keep it long, people would get real confused when seeing me and
Randy from the back (his is down a couple of inches past his armpits).

Re:  Dreads

Your hair will dread if you don't comb it, but for your neighbor's sake,
please sponge it out!!  ;-)  Finer hair tends to dread better.  My hair
dreads easily if I don't comb it everyday.  One thing about getting dreads
though is, like someone mentioned, keeping in mind the fact that you would
probably have to get a crew cut if you decide not to have dreads anymore.
Something to consider at least if you're female 8-).

peace,
t!ng
278.26NRSTA2::CLARKEver breathe oxygen, son?Thu Aug 06 1992 18:169
Welp, in Jamaica, tourists will pay a pretty good amount of money to
go thru the agony (really - they pull your hair really tight - I saw
some women cry during the process) of getting their hair corn-rowed.
Dreads are different, though ... like Fog said, you wash your hair in
sea water.  If you use shampoo, you'll lose the dreads ....

8^P

- dc
278.27CXDOCS::BARNESThu Aug 06 1992 18:214
    I rememebr the dreads i saw in Telluride for the shows there, they were
    caked in mud to keep the form...
    
    rfb who HAST TO HAVE clean hair
278.28ZENDIA::FERGUSONPrez term: 4 yrs; Sup. Court: LIFEThu Aug 06 1992 18:4912
My hair grows very fast.  What I do is get a haircut, pretty short, then let
it grow until the annoyance level of people commenting on it becomes too much
to deal with, then I get it cut again.  I don't use any fancy sprays, jell,
hair color, etc... just kinda towel it off and let 'em lie where they may.

just now, i'm beginning to get comments about it's messyness.  i reckon that
i'll be getting it chopped in the next 3 wks.

the beard gets "mowed" every 10-14 days to keep it short for the summer
heat.

/jc
278.29AWECIM::RUSSOclaimin!Thu Aug 06 1992 19:1414
    
    My sister sent my wife some pictures of me, ranging from childhood
    through college.  Big difference between freshman year and senior year!
    
    	freshman: clean cut, short combed hair, no beard.
    	senior: long, uncombed for weeks curly hair, beard (looked like
    		one of those deadheads ;^)
    
    Now I look more like I did freshman year, except my hair is even
    shorter and the hairline has definitely receded :^/  Shaved the beard
    off a couple weeks ago, but I'll be growing it back in another month
    or so....
    
    Hogan
278.30put down that weed wacker!!!SSGV01::STROBEL&amp; now for something completely different...Thu Aug 06 1992 22:109
My hair's pretty short these days, due mostly to the fact that it's so thick that
it becomes a real impediment to my running (along with my slowness).

did have a beard & ponytail in grad school. Grew the beard (and let the hair go)
on a trip to Nepal and Thailand. When my mom saw pictures she didn't know who
it was :-)


jeff
278.31lettin' my freak flag flyCSLALL::BENJAMINThu Aug 06 1992 22:228
      Last December, after hearing the word "haircut" about 100 million
    times, I got one for my sister's wedding...I haven't had one since...
      Today my little sister came home from California to visit sporting
    a new look...Her hair used to be down to her butt, but now my hair
    is longer than hers... :-)
    
             DaveB_who_is_trying_to_compensate_for_the_shiny_spot
                   _on_top_;-)
278.32FMNIST::olsonDoug Olson, ISVG West, Mtn View CAFri Aug 07 1992 00:319
278.33Nat E. DreadJUPITR::OCONNORSFri Aug 07 1992 08:019
    
     I have thick, black, curley, hair that gets to be a mess when it
    gets long, so it's usually not too long. Like someone else said,
    I usually get a haircut when I get tired of people commenting about it.
     I wish I could grow my hair long but it just kinda fro's out on me,
    I've also thought about getting dreads, someone told me one way is
    to put bee wax in your hair.
    
    Sean
278.34Hair ties are important in the summerMILKWY::SAMPSONDriven by the windFri Aug 07 1992 12:0722
    	I got hair and real bad cut this spring. So now its growing out
    and it can get shaped better around September. It's curly and goes
    blondish in the summer the more I sail. It usually reaches my shoulders 
    and takes a lot of time to look longer 'cause it curls up to shoulder
    length for a long time. But wet, before this really bad cut, it is
    normally down between my shoulder baldes, actually almost to the bottom
    of them right now (I guess I'm getting over the bad cut). More than one 
    woman has made a remark of something like, "I'd kill for that hair" or,
    "It's so unfair".  
    	Moustache is permanet, but the beard is only a winter thing. It
    really does keep your face warmer and the amount of time it takes for 
    ice to form on it is a good indicator of how cold it really is. The pony
    tail is summer thing for the same sort of reason, but also because
    between sailing and driving a pick up with a rear slider, I've always
    got the wind at my back, blowing hair in my face and mouth. 
    
    	Glenn, warning! Don't cut your hair in November if you like to play
    outside in the winter. I had cold ears one winter and was really
    surprised.
    
    	Never perm, let your hair do what it wants and it'll look the best.
    Geoff
278.35RAISE::GLADUFri Aug 07 1992 13:315
    Ended up getting the usual type haircut last night. Nothing fancy.
    Hadda do something cuz my bike helmet gave me that "wing" look. :-/
    Got my summer beard all grown in now, too. 
    
    - Gerry
278.36They should call 'em "temps"SALEM::MARTIN_SDepartment of Redundancy Dept.Fri Aug 07 1992 13:329
    
    
    
    Why are they called "permanents" if they're not?? :-)
    
    
    Steve-O
    
    
278.37ZENDIA::FERGUSONPrez term: 4 yrs; Sup. Court: LIFEFri Aug 07 1992 14:575
Well, I too broke down and got my hair chopped!! (ouch!)....  i figured that
since i'm gonna be the best man in a wedding about 1 month off, i did not
want to have the "just out of the barber shop" look....


278.38EBBV03::SMITHwe were meant to be hereFri Aug 07 1992 15:3812
	I despise it when people judge you by the appearance of your
	hair......Who cares! I like my short hair cause it's
	comfortable and cool, in the winter I grow it a little 
	longer for warmth.  People have said to me that I can't 
	be much of a Deadhead cause I have short hair....what kind
	of mentality is that??? I then wip out my 34 ticket stubs
	and remind them that Deadheads come in all forms!!!!!!
	This applies for the other way too, cops will probably tend
	to question a long haired man, more so than a short haired
	, clean cut man.  I can't vouch that this holds true for 
	women as well.  
278.39Where do I belong?MILKWY::SAMPSONDriven by the windFri Aug 07 1992 16:576
    Ya, I guess I'll never be an engineer with tis long hair, or will I
    never be a software engineer it I don't let it grow? I don't know, this
    is all confusing, I don't chop my hair for Wednesdays, but I crew after 
    work. Maybe that's why it's so curly, it doesn't know what to do!
    
    Geoff
278.40LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureFri Aug 07 1992 17:066
	I don't know about your building Geoff but here in disk drive
	land there are plenty of engineers, software, hardware and
	mechanical with hair longer than both of ours.....


278.41CSLALL::HENDERSONThis could be the last timeFri Aug 07 1992 17:118

 Well, lets see...last time I got a haircut was in April..prior to that it
was last Sept? I forget.  Don't plan on another one til next April or so..



Jum
278.42GR8FUL::WHITEWithout love in a dream...Fri Aug 07 1992 17:2913
Re:  <<< Note 278.41 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "This could be the last time" >>>

> Well, lets see...last time I got a haircut was in April..prior to that it
>was last Sept?

	Last time I got a haircut was late December 1977.  Although 
	there have been minor touch-up-the-ends trims since...

	Last time I shaved was 13 (or maybe 14) October 1976.

	Bob

278.43CSLALL::HENDERSONThis could be the last timeFri Aug 07 1992 17:378

 Hmmm...I've had this incarnation of my beard for about 5 years or so, but I
 do shave a little once in a while in that area right below the trailing (or
 is it leading) edge of the beard.


 The mustache has been there since sometime in 76 I think
278.44I remember it now!LJOHUB::GILMOREA Fly can't Bird but a Bird can FlyFri Aug 07 1992 17:414
    Bob White has beautiful hair!!!!!
    
    
    I'm jealous.
278.45I love guys with long hair 8->!!SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Fri Aug 07 1992 19:038
Probably almost as long as Randy's, T!ng!  

Well, on the surface at least 8-).  Randy has very curly hair, so when
it straightens out (like in the shower ;-), his hair reaches down to
his waist 8-).  Let it grow!!

peace,
t!ng
278.46GR8FUL::WHITEWithout love in a dream...Fri Aug 07 1992 21:4010
RE:<<< Note 278.44 by LJOHUB::GILMORE "A Fly can't Bird but a Bird can Fly" >>>

>    Bob White has beautiful hair!!!!!

	Ah, shucks.  Thanks much.

	Blush, bluch :-)

	Bob

278.47ESGWST::MIRASSOUWe're gonna need another Timmy!Fri Aug 07 1992 23:5119
    I never answered this one either... Let's see, my last haircut was,
    um, err... I think January 1989.  But my hair pretty much maxed out
    in length about a year ago, and floats right around armpit level
    (though it's curly, and looks longer when wet).
    
    My body's pretty confused about what color it wants my hair to be,
    anyway.  My head hair is light brown, my arm hair is blondish, my
    sideburns (and beard, when I had one) is red, and the stuff on my
    chest & back is black.  But then, since I was blonde haired & blue
    eyed until I was 10 or so, then drifting into somewhat red-haired
    & definitely green-eyed after that, what should I expect?
    
    j
    
    Come to think of it, my last haircut was when my (then) manager asked
    me to get a haircut before going out to a certain customer site. 
    Wonder if that has anything to do with it? :-)
    
    j
278.48he's gone...TECRUS::FROMMThere is no way to peace;peace is the way.Sat Aug 08 1992 05:0322
    my hair's pretty short now, but when i started work last year (a year
    ago last week) it was long and in a ponytail; believe it or not, my
    dad stopped talking to me because i wouldn't cut my hair before i
    started work; well, it's been over a year, and he still doesn't speak
    to me; the ironic thing is that i no longer have long hair (i cut it
    about half a year ago because i was getting sick of it and wanted a
    change, it had nothing to do with my dad), but my dad doesn't even know
    that, because he won't talk to me
    
    contrary to my dad's supposed assumption that long hair just wasn't
    appropriate for the corporate world, my project manager was poking fun
    at me when i DID cut my hair; his response was something to the effect
    of, "Why'd you cut your hair?  Are you giving in to corporate america? 
    What are you going to do next?  Come in to work wearing a coat and
    tie?"
    
    i still can't quite understand the fact that my dad won't even
    acknowledge my existence on this earth because my hair was long; has
    anybody else ever had a parent become so reactionary over hair length?
    
    - rich
    
278.49roots showing....SALEM::MARKIEWICZenfant de l'UniversSat Aug 08 1992 19:159
    I've been letting my hair grow for the last two years with only
    occasional trims.  It's about at my shoulder blades now.  My natural
    color is dark brown with red highlights, and a lot of grey lately  on
    my temples and in my bangs.  I've colored it recently and had a perm so
    it has bleached out to light brown.  My personal philosophy on hair is
    let it grow....
    
    Rose
    
278.50CXDOCS::BARNESMon Aug 10 1992 17:336
    rich -- 
    try having a dad during the 60's-70's that had already spent 25 years
    in the military, belived in God, Motherhood and apple-pie, Johnson and
    NIXON! My dad used to try and bribe me with $ to get a haircut when I
    was 16-18, after that he sorta gave up... 
                                             rfb
278.51EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedMon Aug 10 1992 19:319
I have a hair dilemma.  I am also going to be a best man on October 3rd.  My
hair now is pretty long, long enough that I will be wanting a haircut soon. 
But, by Oct. 3rd it may be longer than I want it for a wedding.  But, I don't
know if I can wait until the end of August to get a cut.  Of course, the other
option is to get 2 cuts.

decisions, decisions.

adam
278.52CSLALL::HENDERSONThis could be the last timeMon Aug 10 1992 19:333

 Well, you definitely need a haircut, Adam :-)
278.53I think I have a solution:LJOHUB::GILMOREA Fly can't Bird but a Bird can FlyMon Aug 10 1992 19:403
    Get a haircut now and a trim later!
    
    :)
278.54ZENDIA::FERGUSONPrez term: 4 yrs; Sup. Court: LIFEMon Aug 10 1992 19:594
adam, wear a ponytail and a headband until the end of aug, then get it cut. 

:-)

278.55Just kidding! Don't hurt me! :)DIEHRD::CRAVENSpanish Castle MagicMon Aug 10 1992 20:063
    adam... Shave it ALL off.  It'll be fine by October 3rd. ;)
    
    Rob
278.56aren't I a sweet friend? :-)LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureMon Aug 10 1992 22:076
If it's the cost of a cut you are worried about I'll cut it for a mere beer!


:-)

278.57GIAMEM::CONNORSTue Aug 11 1992 01:443
    
    
    I'll help.....  for free even!  ;-)   hehhehehhehehhehhehe!
278.58Bad hair cuts last tooooo longMILKWY::SAMPSONDriven by the windTue Aug 11 1992 12:2717
    Adam, the only reason you need a cut is because the last one was meant
    to be short. So get a cut that's designed to grow longer and you'll
    only need one. Let it grow (isn't that t tune?) and then let it keep
    your ears warm over the winter. Then next summer you can wear a
    pony tail. Sonds like an easy solution to me. 
    
    	Now that I'm here replying I have to admit. My hair does not reach
    the bottom of my shoulder blades when it's wet, more like the middle. 
    I guess that was an optimistic, maybe with my head tilted back,
    measurement. I'm really not over this bad hair cut of the spring,
    these things last so longgggggg!
    	At least it's not like Don, who just walked by my office, who
    claims to have had hair like mine once, but now it's less than 1/4 inch 
    all around and he says he doesn't like it. 
    
    Good morning
    Geoff
278.59bad haircuts _do_ last a _loong_ time!ZENDIA::FERGUSONPrez term: 4 yrs; Sup. Court: LIFETue Aug 11 1992 13:0711
re: bad haircuts


I can relate to this!  One time, a hair butcher hacked about 6-7" off hair
off the back of my head with I only asked him to cut about 1/2" off!  Man
was I bent ... took what seemed forever to grow back to any decent length....

This winter, I'm pondering on letting it _really_ get long.... deb is gonna
hate it....!!  maybe...

/jc
278.60what a nice gestureEZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedTue Aug 11 1992 16:466
re: Lisa and MJ generously offering a cut for minimal cost.

Gee, thanks, but only if you let me cut yours afterwards... (and I'll do it for
free, too, he he he)

adam_scissorhands
278.61GIAMEM::CONNORSTue Aug 11 1992 16:504
    
    Thanks but no thanks adam.... I'm in "let it grow" mode!
    
    MJ
278.62maybe you'd like your ear pierced?LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureTue Aug 11 1992 16:556

but I don't *want* a haircut!  geeso - try to help a person.....

:-)

278.63reminds me of my first job in the hair salon.. NOT!EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedTue Aug 11 1992 17:337
OK, ladies, then I'll just have to braid it!

my patented triple_lindy_with_a_quarter_twist_plus_slipknot,_beaded_ends_and_
colored_pink_and_purple_streaks braid.  You'll just adore it!  Let me know when
you're free!

adam
278.64Hair brained ideasNAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Sun Dec 06 1992 15:1028
    I've been on the fence for a couple months about getting clipped, and
    finally decided to do something about it this weekend.  I've got this
    curly/wavy/frizzy kind of hair that begins get really frazzled looking
    as it gets longer, especially in damp weather.  After a while it looks
    sort of like a brown dandelion.
    
    So, it was a choice of either brush up on my Rosanne Rosannadanna
    impersonations, or get clipped.  Out of respect for the late grate
    comediene, I got it cut - just enough to make my hat fitt a little
    better, though... I can't do a decent Rosanne with a beard anyway, and
    it's too cold to shave yet...
    
    You see, I hate haircuts.  They make me take off my glasses until
    they're done, and as a result, I can't see what they're up to.  I can
    never decide whether to tell them this, though, for fear they'll take
    advantage of me.  ("Ha ha!  We'll see if you tip THIS time!").  So,
    I sit there and wait for the surprise at the end of the session - like
    Sartorial Roulette.  I suppose I should be more trusting, and I know it
    will grow back anyway (so far), but I have this recurring nightmare of
    showing up at work with a 'temporary' reverse-mohawk, and I just can't
    shake it....
    
    ;-) ;-) ;-)
    
    Brrr.  Has anybody else noticed how much colder it's getting?
    
    tim
    
278.65CoolMILKWY::SAMPSONDriven by the windMon Dec 07 1992 11:168
    	I got a relatively short hair cut in about November of some 6 or so
    years ago. My ears had never been quite so cold on a chair lift as they
    were early that season. I resolved then to refrain from cutting my hair
    too much later than September. I'll bet it was colder for you this
    weekend than for me!
    
    	Now your gonna need a different hat!
    	Geoff
278.66CSCMA::M_PECKARDyslexics Untie!Mon Dec 07 1992 12:499

I feel the same way. You are totally vunerable in the Barber's chair,
especially if you have poor eyesight. I need a haircut pretty bad now, but have 
been avoiding it like a barium emema. 

Unfortunalety, just like with pee tests and "I've tripped and I can't get down" 
bumper stickers, there's a price for being free, and in this part of the 
country, its a pretty high price...
278.67advantage to short hairEBBV03::SMITHI took a rebel standMon Dec 07 1992 12:5510

	I love my short hair...
	
	When I cut my hair I reduced the amount of time it takes
	me to get ready in the morning down to 10 minutes from
	30 minutes, which gave me 20 minutes additional sleep!

	

278.68ZENDIA::FERGUSONgot the Canned Heat BluesMon Dec 07 1992 13:3210
deane - what the heck did you do on your hair for 20 minutes????  curl it?  :-)


i too don't like getting chopped;  foretunately, my eye sight is good so i
can watch what is going on... and, my hair grows very fast - so, if they do
mess up, it'll be only 1-2 months before i need another trim.

no more cuts for me in '92 ....

should be pretty long my 01-01-93. (long for me, that is).
278.69"...give me down to there, shoulder length an longer..."NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Mon Dec 07 1992 13:5826
I was talking to Lisa about hair on Friday night.  It's the
reason I look so different now - I was in a field sales office
from '85-'91, and had to keep it REAL short, and no facial hair
either.  I think of it as my 'John McLaughlin Period' ;-) (the
guitarist, not the writer).  Deane has a point - it was easy to
maintain.  On the other hand, there's always a non-zero probability
that someone will mistake you for Ross Perot, and ask you for
money. ;-)

20 minutes, huh?  When it gets that long, you get headaches from
the sheer weight, I'd suppose...;-)

Now, don't get me wrong - I didn't shave my head or anything.
I mean, I still have to screw that size 8 hat on, 'cuz I can't
get one any bigger anywhere.  Some of that is just a genetically
fat head, though. ;-)...it was just a collection of funny
ideas that I get about haircuts, and a dull Sunday afternoon,
I guess.  I still have what most non-deadheads would consider 
long hair - shoulder length in the back - but it's the process
that always rattles me, and only sometimes the results.

It must have been a bad experience when I was a kid that still
haunts me.  I distinctly recall going to my first day of high
school with a haircut that made me feel like Howdy Doody.

tim
278.70EBBV03::SMITHIt all makes perfect senseMon Dec 07 1992 14:054
>deane - what the heck did you do on your hair for 20 minutes????  curl it?  :-)

	Well you ever seen back to the future where Marty tells
	his Father it's time to change the oil???
278.71NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Mon Dec 07 1992 14:108
Which McFly were you - Marty, or George? ;-)

Who's density were you?

tim_who_just_spent_last_friday_at_home_with_his_sick_daughter_
 watching_videos

P.S. That's my favorite Christopher Lloyd flick...he's grate.
278.72you think you had it bad....LANDO::HAPGOODMon Dec 07 1992 14:4310
Bad experiences as a kid getting haircuts?

My father is, was and always will be a bonehead er I mean jarhead...
whoops I really mean Marine.  25cent haircuts - what a bargain. 
And oh,  the artwork on the wall was fantastic;  Military Regulation
number XYZ.a23 "length of sideburns" etc etc etc.

:)
bob

278.73CSLALL::HENDERSONWrong week to quit smokingMon Dec 07 1992 15:2111

 Last haircut I got was in April.  Been thinking of getting one the last couple
 weeks, but I tend to equate haircutting chairs with dentist chairs and put it
 off as long as I can.





 Jum
278.74Dentists, that is...NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Mon Dec 07 1992 15:323
They smell the same. ;-)

tim
278.75CXDOCS::BARNESMon Dec 07 1992 15:365
    i gave myself a trim over the ears right before the shows cause my
    "wings" were startin to show....but my tail is halfway down my back,
    and my bangs hide my receeding hairline
    
    rfb
278.76ZENDIA::FERGUSONgot the Canned Heat BluesMon Dec 07 1992 20:442
I'm with you Jum - avoid Mr Dentist, Mr Doctor, and Mr Barber for as long
as possible!
278.77SCOONR::GLADUTue Dec 08 1992 12:044
    Growing my hair back. What the heck, I don't have a job and don't
    plan on looking for one until 10/93. :-)
    
    ger
278.78ROULET::DWESTif wishes were horses...Tue Dec 08 1992 18:466
    hmmm...  jes got mine cut yesterday...  innerviewin' ya know...
    
    can you believe that the people at great cuts want $8 to put your hair
    in a braid????????!!!!!!!!!!!   
    
    					da ve
278.79I'm going for the outer-view, myself... :-)DRINKS::WEISSBeer -- It does a body good.Tue Dec 08 1992 19:127
> innerviewin' ya know...
  
How's things look inside, Da ve?

:-)

Dave  
278.80well, you asked...ROULET::DWESTif wishes were horses...Wed Dec 09 1992 14:527
    
    actually, as i look inside these days, the picture is not as clear as
    it once was, and there are a few more darker colors than normal...
    
    still kinda pretty though...
    
    						da ve
278.81 BUSY::IRZALazarus, what was it like?Thu Mar 18 1993 18:008
    
        
     well, it's been almost a seven month hiatus from the scissors
    
     my hair is *starting* to get long again.    -------
                                                | :^) 
                                                 -------
                                     ^dave
278.82SPOCK::IRONSThu Mar 18 1993 18:345
    You best get a hair cut before you come to this building (MRO1), boy! 
    We have customers and marketeers round here.  
    
    :^)
    
278.83 ;^)BUSY::IRZALazarus, what was it like?Thu Mar 18 1993 18:4812
    
    
       
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              | uh oh! |
              ----------  
                  |
                 |
            ------
           | :^o
            ------
    
278.84haircut? NOT!!!!!! let it grow!ROULET::DWESTif wishes were horses...Fri Mar 19 1993 13:4319
    
    customer interaction does not mean hair needs to go...  speaking as one
    who has plenty of interaction with some big ticket customers, it is
    what is IN the head, rather than ON it that matters...  treat a
    customer like a customer wants to be treated and that will bring you a
    win...  i work with our customer integration group here a lot bringing
    people thorugh the site, sitting in on meetings and giving
    presentations etc...  no one has ever given me a hard time about the
    length of my hair...  sales reps with big internatational accounts
    worth many millions ask for me by name (and don't ask if i've cut my
    hair)...  
    
    if i can keep my hair while i visit with generals from the pentagon,
    CEO's of customer companies (and members of their boards of directors),
    highly placed government o-fish-als, CEO of our own company, the
    governor of MA etc, then i should think you could keep yours while you
    work in MRO...  :^)
    
    					da ve_the_hairy_and_fuzzy
278.85XCUSME::MACINTYREFri Mar 19 1993 14:369
    Unfortunately da ve, its whether your manager cares about your hair
    that most matters.  Equally unfortunately, my manager is rather uptight
    about dress and general apprearance and as such, makes my dress and
    hair options quite limited.
    
    Grow free or die,
    
    Marv
    
278.86CXDOCS::BARNESFri Mar 19 1993 14:436
    the center in Colo Spgs has started discussions about dress code
    again..direct results of customer questions/interaction..course the
    people in the center here are known for their type of dress, specialy
    inthe summer...shorts, flip-flops, etc
    
    rfb
278.87NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Fri Mar 19 1993 14:5222
Sometimes appearances matter.  It depends on the audience.

In 1981 I transfered from Engineering into my first field
job.  The job was a 1-year consulting position at
Price-Waterhouse.  I dressed up - sport coat, tie, new
shoes.   When I got there, they told me that normally
if an employee doesn't come to work in a suit, they ask
them to go home and change, but they understood that I
was new, and came from Digital besides, so they'd give me
a break.

Long hair wasn't even a question - they wouldn't tolerate
it. Period.  Some customers are like that, some aren't.

Racal-Milgo in Miami would go drinking at lunch.  PW fired
people for that (and then drink their asses off all night).

I see no reason for engineering to dress up, though.  Hell,
some of the best engineers I've worked with didn't even
bathe regularly. 

tim
278.88CXDOCS::BARNESFri Mar 19 1993 14:545
    re: some eng didn't bathe regularly
    
    HEY! I KNOW THOSE GUYS!!!! %^)
    
    rfb
278.89Shave this, pal... :-)DRINKS::WEISSBeer -- It does a body good.Fri Mar 19 1993 15:5133
> Price-Waterhouse.

I have a friend whose a consultant with them.  PW employees are not even
allowed to have mustaches!  Most other consulting first (e.g. Arthur
Anderson) don't allow beards (mustaches, ok).  I will NOT work for 
anyone who tells me to cut my hair (which isn't long at all, from
a hippie-standpoint), or shave my beard or mustache.  They can ask, and
I'll tell them no.  If they don't like it, they can fire me...they'd
be losing a good employee.  Must be something in the genes.  My dad
was a stock broker.  He refused to wear a tie.  (blasphemy in the world
of big $$$).  Back in the mid-70's, everyone wore 3-piece suits and
ties.  My dad would wear slacks and a shirt, and sometimes a sport coat.
Never, ever a tie.  Every week, one of the partners of the firm he
worked for at the time would come into his office and have the same
conversation with him:

Partner:  You know, Ed, you really should wear a tie.
Dad:  I don't like to wear ties.
P:  I know *your* clients don't care, but other brokers' clients also
    come in the office...
Dad:  You have a choice, you can have a tie, or you can have me.  Take
      your pick.
P (leaving office, grumbling):  &$*8#&$^1Weiss*#(@_@!tie(#&^@%#

BTW, Dad was a very good stock broker.  Made lots o' $$$ for the firm.

I've got the same attitude:  You want someone clean-shaven or you want
someone who does the work I do.  My job will NOT dictate my lifestyle.
Sorry.  Life is more important than work...

Of course, *I* can't figure out how to make money on stocks... :-(

Dave
278.90SPOCK::IRONSFri Mar 19 1993 16:495
    RE .84  
    
    WELL, EXCUSE ME MISTER CUSTOMER MAN!!  :^)
    
    dave
278.91cut your job and get a hairROCK::ROCK::FROMMGUMBO!!!Fri Mar 19 1993 17:5710
when i started work here i had somewhat long hair in a ponytail
i cut it after about 6 months, on my own accord
my manager never gave me any shit about it until i did cut it
then he started making fun of me
"why'd you go and cut your hair?  giving in to corporate america?  what crazy
thing are you gonna do next, wear a tie?"

i kinda like the atmosphere here...

- rich
278.92no problem...ROULET::DWESTif wishes were horses...Fri Mar 19 1993 19:383
    consider yourself excused!  :^)
    
    					da ve
278.93easy at lkg...ZENDIA::FERGUSONI got ramblin' on my mindSat Mar 20 1993 15:025
Where I work, they don't say anything about dress/hair/looks.  I'm probably
the one who "dresses-down" the most in the office... my hair varies in
length.


278.94Maybe a minute too lateSANDZ::SAMPSONDriven by the windSun Mar 21 1993 23:2316
    	Well I am thinking of/planning on cutting my hair after Albany.
    That's my schedule along with bringing the boat out front to star
    working on it (if I can this year) and shaving my beard (never the
    moustache). That's just me. Too bad the one who most would have liked 
    to see me with a little less hair isn't likely to be spending as much
    time with me after Albany. Oh well, back to normal I guess.
    	As for working with customers, our FXO business has always been
    centered around external customers. 'course me I hide in a lab and
    shoot electons down a collumn for imaging so not too many see me
    anyway. It's my work they respect. 
    
    	Besides, all the compliments I get on it i'd be really bummed if I
    HAD to cut it short. (getting it cut doesn't = short)
    
    Geoff still_kind_of_bummed_about_something_I_understand_but_don't_like!
    
278.95EBBV03::SMITHThe sun is getting highFri Apr 23 1993 14:177
	I just got my hair cut, got one of them mushroom style
	dews! I like it! very comfortable!!! Very shroomy!!!

	heh heh heh  ;-)

	No more beard or mustache either! 
278.96MRNGDU::YETTOthe future is hereFri Apr 23 1993 14:593
	cool, can we call you mushroomhead now?  :-)

278.97EBBV03::SMITHThe sun is getting highFri Apr 23 1993 15:178
>	cool, can we call you mushroomhead now?  :-)
	
	Sure! :-)

	After last night, it may be more appropriate 
	I be called mushroombrain....

	to many bocks!  %-P
278.98Mushman, Mush-o-rama, Baron Von Mush-steinSUBPAC::MAGGARDHave YOU changed your logo lately???Fri Apr 23 1993 22:007
> After last night, it may be more appropriate 
> I be called mushroombrain....


Howzabout just "Mush" ???

8-)
278.99How's it hangin', Mush?NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Fri Apr 23 1993 22:564
    I like it. ;-) ;-)
    
    tim
    
278.100my hair is very short too!ZENDIA::FERGUSONYour recipe is so tastyMon Apr 26 1993 13:2310
Hey mon,

You got a 'shroom-do!?!?!?!

i always see the kids at my haircutting place getting those suckers.  come to
da bull this weds to check out ronnie so i can check out that do mon!!!!!!!!




278.101EBBV03::SMITHThe sun is getting highMon Apr 26 1993 15:4318
>> After last night, it may be more appropriate 
>> I be called mushroombrain....
>
>
>Howzabout just "Mush" ???
>
>8-)

	After Saturday night, Mr.Maggard, I think you may 
	have deemed yourself a nickname as well....hummmm ;-)
	howsabout "passed out on the couch" or "totally not 
	ok to drive".....heh heh heh   ;-) 


			Mush
	
	
 
278.102Poor Pete, sober and lonely... :-)DRINKS::WEISSBeer -- It does a body good.Mon Apr 26 1993 16:099
> howsabout "passed out on the couch"  

It wasn't even a couch.  It was just a chair.  And my cats haven't
left much to it, as far as chairs go.  Jeff seemed quite pleased 
with it. %-)

Oh yeah, and Mike Bourdess (sp?), I told you so... ;-)

Dave
278.103New doBSS::MNELSONWon't ya try just a little bit harderFri Oct 15 1993 13:5011
    
    I got my hair cut on Wednesday, too short.  I got back from having it
    cut and had my ponytail sitting on the front seat. As I was putting my
    daughter (2 1/2 yrs old) in the car, she said.  "WHATS THAT On THE FRONT 
    SEAT?" I told her it was my ponytail. She couldn't understand why I got
    my hair cut.   All I got was "But why daddy, but why"
    
    Time  to "Let it grow"
    
    	Mark
     
278.104CXDOCS::BARNESMon Oct 18 1993 15:146
    told ya you were making a big mistake! %^)
    
    Lately, my kids have been saying I have a "dorky" haircut.....the
    difference between teens and two-year olds. 
    
    rfb
278.105What hair?AKOCOA::SMITH_DAnybody really know what time it is?Wed Jun 29 1994 12:324
    
    It's ALL gone....and I do mean ALL except for about 1/10 of an inch!
    
    Majorly comfortable!  Especially out on dah trails.
278.106such a state of affairs...STRATA::DWESTriding on Blaine the Mono...Wed Jun 29 1994 12:426
    what is the world coming to when i have more hair on my face than some
    of these people have on thier heads???
    
    sigh...  kids today...  :^)
    
    					da ve
278.107ROADKL::INGALLSmay the four winds blow you home againWed Jun 29 1994 16:3311
Me too -- well not a buzz-cut but I just got my hair cut *again* because
of a interview I *may* get with Coors in which the job entails doing a lot of
presentations - and typically that means looking clean-cut, -- 
although who knows, this is a beer(?) company, but I'm not taking any chances...

Of course if I got the job long term, that means we'd have to move again :^/


Glennnn

278.108AKOCOA::SMITH_DAnybody really know what time it is?Wed Jun 29 1994 17:089
    
    Hey, good luck on the interview mon!
    
    1st impressions last!!!!
    
    Yup, I'm really starting to enjoy my whiffle....I've gotten a lot of
    attention from my peers, particularly the wimmin!!!! :-)
    
    Deane_living_on_a_cloud_today
278.109NAC::TRAMP::GRADYInto the night, an angel to be...Wed Jun 29 1994 17:275
Congratulations Deane-o

Next time I see ya, I'll try hard not to giggle...;-) ;-)

tim
278.110CXDOCS::BARNESWed Jun 29 1994 19:266
    better get that buzz, Glennn. Coors is one of the most conservative
    beer companies around, and they give sh*tloads to the Republican Party
    and conservative christian right movements...some of yer best friends I
    know...%^)
    
    rfb...doin my best to piss off the religious right
278.111Fascists? HAH that would be a compliment..SALEM::LEBLANCWed Jun 29 1994 19:294
    Not to throw fuel on the fire rfb, but they have been known to
    be in hot water over environmental issues as well...
    
    chris_anti_coors_as_much_as_anti_NY_sports
278.112maybe THAT's why their beer tastes that waySTAR::HUGHESSamurai Couch PotatoWed Jun 29 1994 19:304
    Coors were one of the first to jump on pre-employment testing under the
    auspices of the Drug Free Workplace Act, fwiw.
    
    gary
278.113Coors - yeach!BSS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyWed Jun 29 1994 19:329
    Hey Glenn,
      Lookin forward to checkin out the new do this week.  Coors has been
    alleged to pry into the private lives of its employees in the past in 
    various ways, or so I've heard.  Then again, you can't believe all you hear.
    The most unfortunate thing is I don't believe they make a product that 
    you usually imbibe, otherwise the benefits might be worth it.
    
    	_mark
    	
278.114there's hair i n my coors!CXDOCS::BARNESWed Jun 29 1994 19:3410
    back to hair...I told Patty (she LOVES long hair on guys) to get some
    film cause I'm gettin a trim soon too....too thick and it's too damn
    hot this time o year. I'll prob still have the "tail" but shorter.
    
    
    back to Coors...for years the Hispanic community in Colo boycotted
    Coors because of discrimination suits against them..boycott lifted in
    the 80's as Coors hired more Hispanics.
    
    rfb
278.115ROADKL::INGALLSmay the four winds blow you home againWed Jun 29 1994 19:5215
Coors - environment problems, piss-tests, discrimination....
vs. 
DEC - current environment s*cks, pissed off daily, cutting indiscriminently

but serially - coors sure has a bad rap.  I didn't know all that...
 - we'll see how it goes though -- if I get the job I won't really be an 
employee of Coors - I'd be working for a consulting company with a contract 
with Coors - subtle difference, but difference just the same....

Glennnn_who's going under cover as a clean cut businessman to over throw the
religious, ultra conservative right wing politics of the beer industry -- look
out! Koch is next ;^) 


278.116POWDML::PENTLICKIWed Jun 29 1994 20:205
    i heard Adolph Coors was a .......NAZI!!
    that's what I heard in one of those sensationalist
    news stories 'bout 5 yrs ago
    
    Steve
278.117i'm already beardlessBIODTL::JCpositive vibrationTue Jul 05 1994 21:315
my hair is wicked long and think right now (for me, that is)... 

betw house decisions and leading this huge mess of a project, i have
no time to get haircuts... i gotta get one this weekl,i hope... it is
very hot!!
278.118Dual purposeMILKWY::HEADSL::SAMPSONDriven by the windWed Jul 06 1994 12:246
	Hey JC, If it's wicked long, just tie it back in a pony tail. That makes 
it nice and cool again and when winter comes aroung you can let it down and 
keep your neck warm ;^). 
	Long hair's great stuff, but mine just doesn't seem to get any longer.

Geoff
278.119So far right, it's almost left...CARROL::YOUNGwhere is this place in space???Thu Jul 07 1994 15:366
    Adolph Coors was a big supporter of the John Birch Society...
    
    Let Freedom Ring....            
    
    Sounds almost patriotic....*;')
    					Dugo
278.120The Official 1995 Facial Hair SurveySUBPAC::MAGGARDMail Order WivesMon Feb 13 1995 13:1822
Duck season!  Wabbit Season!  Duck season!  Wabbit Season! ...

No... "Survey Season!!!"

I propose a new survey for the Valentine's Day Week, given that Dori is on the
left coast and isn't gonna see me for another month...  



The Official FACIAL HAIR Survey!

    1. Should I continue growing a beard? 

    2. Should I Tell Dori?

    3. Should I shave it before she sees me with it (4 weeks from now)?

    4. How often does one trim one of these things anyway? :-)


- Red_Beard
278.121MAYES::OSTIGUYMon Feb 13 1995 13:215
    Red_Beard...
    
    GO FOR IT !!!   
    
    Wes
278.122CXDOCS::BARNESMon Feb 13 1995 13:347
    speaking:
     as one who has had a beard off and on since the age of 18, and
    
    as one who is still trying to grow a decent beard.....
    
                      LET IT GROW!!!!
    rfb
278.123ROCK::FROMMThis space intentionally left blank.Mon Feb 13 1995 13:3214
>    1. Should I continue growing a beard? 
yes

>    2. Should I Tell Dori?
no

>    3. Should I shave it before she sees me with it (4 weeks from now)?
no

>    4. How often does one trim one of these things anyway? :-)
i trim mine approx. once a week.  sometimes more if i care more about my
appearance, sometimes less if i'm lazy.  your mileage may vary.

- rich-with-seasonal-facial
278.124Something new and differentCSLALL::LEBLANC_CPlease don't dominate the rapJACKMon Feb 13 1995 13:375
    Shave of all your body hair a la Bob Geldof in "The Wall" and see 
    what her reaction is....
    
    
    chris
278.125CXDOCS::BARNESMon Feb 13 1995 13:502
    "I love it when they shave their beak."
    james belushi in K-9
278.126truth or dare...QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyMon Feb 13 1995 14:205
As a firm believer in facial hair, I'd say, let the damn thing grow and to
hell with the consequences.  Of course, my wife has said she will divorce
me if I ever shave it off, so, maybe I'm not the most unbiased person. ;-)

PeterT
278.127let it growQUOIN::BELKINone...3...5...7..8..9.10!Mon Feb 13 1995 15:273
when you're outside playing at your favorite wintersports and its about
5 or 10 degrees with a 20 MPH wind... I say, us guys need all the facial
protection we can get!  :-)
278.128CXDOCS::BARNESMon Feb 13 1995 15:584
    I get complaints from the spouse when I have shaven and we've partaken of
    some of our favorite INDOOR sports too.....
    
    rfb
278.129AWECIM::RUSSOclaimin!Mon Feb 13 1995 16:256
    
    re .129
    
    :^)  I know what you mean.....
    
    Hogan (trims it once a week usually)
278.130BIODTL::JCGreen is the colourTue Feb 14 1995 17:568
re                     <<< Note 278.128 by CXDOCS::BARNES >>>

 >   I get complaints from the spouse when I have shaven and we've partaken of
 >   some of our favorite INDOOR sports too.....
  

and what might those sports be mon?
:-)
278.131CXDOCS::BARNESTue Feb 14 1995 17:573
    valentines day sports!!!!!, of course!
    
    rfb
278.132BIODTL::JCGreen is the colourTue Feb 14 1995 17:5719
re           <<< Note 278.120 by SUBPAC::MAGGARD "Mail Order Wives" >>>
                   -< The Official 1995 Facial Hair Survey >-

>    1. Should I continue growing a beard? 

yamon

>    2. Should I Tell Dori?

no mon.

>    3. Should I shave it before she sees me with it (4 weeks from now)?

no mon.

>    4. How often does one trim one of these things anyway? :-)

buy a trimmer.  do it every 2 wks.

278.133DELNI::DSMITHWe'll make great petsWed Feb 15 1995 18:296
    
    Shave the damn thing!!!!
    
    I grew a beard over the past week and a half and it's the itchiest,
    most useless thing.....I can't wait til my chemistry lecture test
    is done tonight so I can get back to taking care of personal hygiene!!!
278.134CXDOCS::BARNESWed Feb 15 1995 18:386
    just say NO! DAMMIT! to personal hygiene!
    
    I had a friend once who had a girl friend named Jene...she was his
    personal HIGHjene, or so he used to say....
    
    rfb
278.135Beerd me!SUBPAC::MAGGARDMail Order WivesWed Feb 15 1995 18:5315
> just say NO! DAMMIT! to personal hygiene!

Be like Dilbert :-)


re: Deano

Welp, looks like the beard stays by a hare... ...actually it's a landslide
vote but hey, a pun's a pun.

I'm sure it'll go right quick when Dori sees it. :-)


- red_beard

278.136but then, I'm biasedQUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyWed Feb 15 1995 20:106
Hey Deano, you have to go through the first week or so, and then everything
should be cool.  Of course, the last time I had a first week of
beard may have well been, uhmmm, 1980? (When I moved to Boston and
had to look for a hob ;-)

PeterT
278.1371 beards worth a 1000 shavesBSS::DSMITHA Harley, &amp; the Dead the good lifeWed Feb 15 1995 21:3629
    
    
    Let it grow,Let it grow,Let it grow.
    
    
      Best thing I did over 20 years ago was to grow a beard, the money I
    saved on shaving and razors, must have been at least a case of beer by
    now.....
      Saves on soap and water, (only have to wash half your face)
      This saves on time when your running late, and usually you can find a
    snack hiding in there for times when hunger over takes you.....
    
      Yep a beard is the second best thing you can put on your face!!!!
    
    
    
      . .
       ,
     \___/
    
    
    
     Divide Dave
    
    
    Personal hygiene, We don't need no stink'n Personal hygiene!
    
    
      
278.138STOWOA::JOLLIMORESomething The Boy SaidThu Feb 16 1995 10:3810
	red beard,
	
	i think your first mistake is in assuming the female half would
	hate the beard (even taking into account past experience). she
	may love it and forbid you to ever again shave.  don't EVER think
	you "know".  ;-)   ;-)
	
	hey peterT, did you ever find that hob you were looking for?
	and what the hell is it anyway?  ;-) is that like a hobby they
	pay you for?
278.139:-)>SUBPAC::MAGGARDMail Order WivesThu Feb 16 1995 12:3610
> she may love it and forbid you to ever again shave.  don't EVER think you
> "know".  ;-)   ;-)

Oh I'm pretty resolved to being a complete idiot the rest of my (married)
life, and I still think she'll hate it :-)

But hey, ya never know... 

- RedBeard

278.140huh, oh, never mind....QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyThu Feb 16 1995 20:4011
>	hey peterT, did you ever find that hob you were looking for?
>	and what the hell is it anyway?  ;-) is that like a hobby they
>	pay you for?


Huh, whatzat?  (then I looked at what I wrote in previous note) 
Hey man!  I be working my steenking hob now!

Must have been in a hurry for that one!

PeterT
278.141I lost weight!SALEM::MARTIN_SPerpetual Smile...Mon Jun 12 1995 15:3513
    
    
    
    Steve-O's ponytail on 6/11/95 @ 7pm ---  1 foot 3 inches
    
    after Delilah's snip @ 7:01pm       ---  tiny! (5 inches maybe)
    
    
    
    
    I feel weak.... (okay. It wasn't Delilah, it was Joyce)
    
    Samson
278.142CXDOCS::BARNESMon Jun 12 1995 16:206
    well, rfb's pony tail just made a reappearance! for the first time in 5
    months I can now pull it back and have no stragglers hangin out of the
    hair-tye! I also am letting all the grey I normally have trimmed out 
    come back...
    
    rfb
278.143Get mine cut once/yr whether it needs it or notTRLIAN::DUGGANBornInTheDesert,RaisedInTheLionsDenThu Jun 15 1995 16:398
    Comparitively short hair.
    A moustache which has been on my face since the day I graduated from
    	high school.
    A 6"-long beard (which comes and goes depending on whether I need to
    	work in a cleanroom)
    
    
    	...michael t. HairHead
278.144MROA::MCONNORSThu Jun 15 1995 18:557
    
    I now have the longest hair I've ever had!  Just past the ol' bra
    strap.  Straight as a pin, all one length... dark to med brown.
    
    (I can't seem to grow the bangs out though...  they drive me nutty!)
    
    
278.145CXDOCS::BARNESThu Jun 15 1995 20:453
    keep it up, err long......
    
    rfb
278.146ZENDIA::FERGUSONSplit open and Melt!Mon Jun 19 1995 19:292
102F outside today.
time to make an appt to get chopped!
278.147WECARE::ROBERTSclimb a ladder to the starsWed Jan 24 1996 12:2517
    
    Interesting commentary on this note in that the most recent addition
    was in june of last year :-)
    
    so neway...I'm thinking about getting a haircut - actually several of
    them.  I'm really struggling with this and have been for a couple
    months.  Sometimes i look at it and say 'so your hair is wicked long,
    now what?' ... and other times I look at it and say 'so your hair is
    wicked long, that's cool' and sometimes I look at it and say 'what's an
    old lady like you trying to prove with hair down to there.' 
    
    By the time i'm one talking to myself, i'm all worn out (being old and
    all) and can't get it together to make a decision.  
    
    *sigh*
       
    
278.148let it grow!USCTR1::CONNORSWed Jan 24 1996 12:287
    
    becareful carol!  it takes a long time to grow back
    and only one insy tinsy little second to.... SNIP!  
    
    ;-)
    
    
278.149STAR::ECOMAN::DEBESSWake Now, Discover...Wed Jan 24 1996 12:517
	if you -do- decide to get it cut - cut it REAL SHORT - and 
	-continue- to make a statement! ;-)

	Debess

	ps - what's this "old" shit?
278.150USOPS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyWed Jan 24 1996 13:218
    
    Hey Carol,
      I personnelly really like your hair, but I am partial to long hair.
    I am dealing with the same dilemma.  I keep thinking I'd like to cut it
    short, but I feel like I'd be losing part of who I am.  Who knows?
    Mine would only take a few years to grow back.   
    
    	Mark
278.151she had ribbons, ribbons, ribbons in her long brown hairSTAR::ECOMAN::DEBESSWake Now, Discover...Wed Jan 24 1996 13:4112
	speaking of hair - I have a "Jerry memorial" in my hair.
	a couple weeks after Jerry died, when I was up at Bread and Puppet,
	one morning I sat next to the campfire and, while a didgeridoo
	was played into me from the other side of the fire, my daughter
	did a hair wrap...it was a gift and I decided to leave it in as
	a permanent living memorial.  well...over the months, this has
	developed into a serious dreadlock on top ;-), but I'm sticking
	with my decision to leave it in.  (I barrette my hair back to
	cover up the tangles!)

	Debess
278.152SPECXN::BARNESWed Jan 24 1996 13:488
    DON'T DO IT CAROL!!!!!!!! I don't see you at all, but I remember you
    from the Slipknot thing in Sept.....DON'T DO IT!!!!
    
    Debess....i've always wanted a hairwrap...was gonna get it done in the
    lot at a show someday, but never made the time, being in quest of a
    beer most of the time in the lot...who knows now.....
    
    rfb
278.153DELNI::DSMITHAnswers aplenty in the by &amp; byWed Jan 24 1996 14:279
    
    Long hair is most appealing to others, while it is usually as 
    uncomfortable and impractical as hell to the owner.
    
    My hair is at a 3 year long right now and I can't stand it.  I'm very
    eager for my May Crewcut!
                                            
    Do what makes you comfortable.  Personally, I think it's grate long.
    :-)
278.154:^)ALFA2::DWESTthe storyteller makes no choice...Wed Jan 24 1996 16:2515
    well since everyone here knows how much i love short hair (as evidenced
    my my own impeccably coiffed head :^), i have one suggestion:
    
    can you say "Sinnead" Roberts???   :^) 
    
    
    
    	IM KIDDING!!!!! I'M KIDDING ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    		Carol, you're old enough AND young enough to do whatever
    the hell you want with it!  :^)  but i myself, like it long... :^)
    
    
    					da ve_whose_hair_is_down_today_
    					in_a_windblown_curly_tangled_mess!
278.155GRANPA::TDAVISWed Jan 24 1996 17:125
    As one who wishes he could keep his hair long, Carol do not cut your
    hair. I always thought of being able to let my freak flag fly,
    I 'll have to wait until retirement, or until I hit the lottery.
    
    Now if I worked in S/W development.....
278.156Keep your hair long anyways TdavisPCBUOA::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Jan 24 1996 17:216
    yeah those engineer types have the life...
    the Mobiles guys here have 2 hockey nets they get to play hockey with in
    the halls......                                      
    
    
    :^)
278.157SPSEG::COVINGTONserpent deflectorWed Jan 24 1996 17:244
    
    I was shocked to see Leblanc in a (gasp) tie! the other night, but
    reassured to see his hair, as neatly coiffed and as long as ever.
    
278.158YippeeeePCBUOA::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Jan 24 1996 17:343
    thanks for bringing my spare key too jim....showed up a little late at
    the knot saturday due to mitigating circumstances
    :^)
278.159enquiring minds and all that crap...ALFA2::DWESTthe storyteller makes no choice...Wed Jan 24 1996 18:024
    "mitigating circumstances?"  now why does that sound like the
    beginnings of a story???  :^)
    
    					da ve
278.160storytime!PCBUOA::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Jan 24 1996 18:222
    at least tehy weren't litigating circumstances...
    :^)
278.161DELNI::DSMITHAnswers aplenty in the by &amp; byWed Jan 24 1996 18:364
    
    Hair length/appearance means nothing.  The biggest freaks I know have 
    short hair.  Live large!
    
278.162SPECXN::BARNESWed Jan 24 1996 18:398
    yer showin yer age Dean-o!
    
    %^)
    
    rfb
    "some people stare, I just ignore them
    some people stare, I just ignore everything....."
                                         DMB                                     
278.163I prefer bald women :)SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Wed Jan 24 1996 18:4718
Do men always want women to have long hair?  I think so.  

I say short hair is low maintenance and easy to care for.  10 or so
years ago I had long hair and it was nothing but a hassle.   I had long
hair since the last time my father (USMC 33 years) quit dragging me 
kicking and screaming down for the ole' "25cent on the base and
up to regulation blah blah blah for Marines haircut".  

After 10 or so years of that I couldn't stand it any longer and cut it.

This notion of long_hair=cool_people is a bit dated in the 90's.  
I mean *every* Tom, Dick and Harry has had long hair inna pony tail
since Big :) Don Johnson did his that way in Miami Vice...

:) :) :)
bob who doesn't really care how people wear their hair - 
    

278.164TEPTAE::WESTERVELTWed Jan 24 1996 18:496
>Do men always want women to have long hair?  I think so.  

No!  Short hair is hot.  On a woman.  

I've always wanted long hair but it just looks shaggy
instead of cool.
278.165Long Beautiful Hair....FABSIX::T_BEAULIEULike A steam LocomotiveWed Jan 24 1996 19:2311
	Carol,

	Keep the hair long!  My wife's hair was down to her behind
	when I 1st met her and I loved it! It's shoulder length now
	and still looks good but I liked it better long .

	Looking at my dad I'm grateful to have hair, short or long  8-)
	

	Toby
278.166SPSEG::COVINGTONserpent deflectorWed Jan 24 1996 19:498
    
    Hey, leblanc - you musta had a REALLY good night at the 'knot, because
    I wasn't there. (If you see Elvis, say hello.)
    
    :)
    
    (Either that or...nevermind.)
    
278.167STAR::ECOMAN::DEBESSWake Now, Discover...Wed Jan 24 1996 20:076
    
>    I was shocked to see Leblanc in a (gasp) tie! the other night, but

	yeah, that always throws me too

278.168Go Shaggy TomWILLEE::OSTIGUYthe eyes of man have not set footThu Jan 25 1996 13:188
    Tom W...grow that hair...I wanna see it get longer, I thought your hair
    looked Coool last time I sawya and it was getting longer...
    
    I prefer shorter hair for myself, tho KAren likes my hair longer...I've
    been trying to keep both of us happy...a bit longer for her, but it
    does bug me when it gets "too long" so, I'm getting a trim on Saturday.
    
    Wes
278.169SPECXN::BARNESThu Jan 25 1996 13:399
    My wife *AND* kids go balistic whenever I shave and/or cut my hair.
    The usual comment is "Ya look like a geek..."
    
    Too short and it doesn't *feel* quite right....I hate that "mid-length
    Long hair" never does anything I want it to, has a mind of it's own...I
    prefer it REAL long so I can pull it back and forget about it when I
    want to...gotta start that kombucha mushroom soon before the grey takes
    completely over and can't be fought anymore!!
    rfb
278.170TEPTAE::WESTERVELTThu Jan 25 1996 13:426
    Ok, so how would I look with a ponytail?

    and an earring, perhaps?

    (sorry no nipple rings!  ouch!)
278.171The psilocybin look!DELNI::DSMITHAnswers aplenty in the by &amp; byThu Jan 25 1996 13:504
    
    I was always impressed with Jerry's hair.  I think he purposly designed
    it so he looked like a slow moving mushroom from a distance.   Just
    thinking about it I'm starting to laugh outloud. 
278.172SPECXN::BARNESThu Jan 25 1996 13:5415
    You'd look like a damn girl!!!! (said in my best USMC/USAF voice)
    
    On my way home last nite I was daydreaming, as usual, thinking about
    the State of the Onion Address, the republican rebuttal, the hair
    topic, and about a beer, when out of NOWHERE the following lyrics just
    jumped into my head..
    
    "No short haired son of tricky dick is gonna mother-hubbard, soft-soap
    me with just a pocket full of hope....money for dope, money for
    rope..."
    
    I leave it to the reader to make any sense out of this...if there is
    any *sensi* to be had 
    
    rfb
278.173WILLEE::OSTIGUYthe eyes of man have not set footThu Jan 25 1996 14:102
    Tom, an earring ?  go for it...the New You !!!
    
278.174TEPTAE::WESTERVELTThu Jan 25 1996 14:249
    Ooh, rfb!

    I never understood the old term "longhair".  When I grew up
    it stood for an oldster, someone very conventional.  I 
    always think of Beethoven, for some reason.

    i'm tired of reading things by neurotic, psychotic,
    pigheaded politicians.
278.175SPECXN::BARNESThu Jan 25 1996 15:1413
    the note by Dean-o about Jerry's hair reminded me of something...
    
    I got a late Xmas present from a real crazy deadhead we are good
    friends with....a picture of Jerry at the last McNichols run Dec 94.
    He's a lousy photographer, just borrowed a camera on a whim when he
    managed to scam 2nd row seats. He took about 30 shots, of which 3 or 4
    turned out at all. Well, the one he blew up for me is just an upper
    torso shot of Jerry, his head is down so all you can see is the light
    from behind illuminating his hair and glasses frame..that's it, not
    much of a face in the pic. But it is a real cool pic......
    
    
    rfb
278.176STAR::ECOMAN::DEBESSWake Now, Discover...Thu Jan 25 1996 15:2311
    
>    I was always impressed with Jerry's hair.  I think he purposly designed

	I was always impressed with Jerry's obvious -lack- of care about
	style - hair or clothes...

	I like your image, though, Deane!

	Debess

278.177MKOTS3::JOLLIMORECouldn't stand the weatherFri Jan 26 1996 11:417
	re; rfb in .169
	we just started brewing (and drinking) kombucha.  :-)
	my (bushy this year) beard is grey, but my hair is still black.
	and LONG! i like it long and suspect it'll always be long. 
	even when it turns grey.
	;-)
	
278.178Grey Hairs Unite !!!WILLEE::OSTIGUYthe eyes of man have not set footFri Jan 26 1996 11:476
    long grey hair is cooool...short grey hair is cooool...
    
    Grey hair is Cooool
    
    Wes_never_to_use_Grecian_or_any_other_potion_designed_to_change_the_color
    _of_my_naturally_colored_hair
278.179i gotta know...ALFA2::DWESTthe storyteller makes no choice...Fri Jan 26 1996 12:097
    
    i musta missed it the first time, but i've gotta know now...
    
    qu'est-ce que c'est "kombucha"???????
    
    					da ve_whose_hair_will_probably
    					fall_out_before_it_goes_all_grey
278.180NAC::TRAMP::GRADYSubvert the dominant pair of dimesFri Jan 26 1996 12:1522
Right after my divorce in 1991, I grew a beard and let my
hair grow long.  I had always wanted to try to grow a beard,
and at age 36 I finally had a chance.  Considering I was
still working for Sales in a district field office, this
didn't go over well.  By 1992 I had moved back to central
engineeing in New England and it was reaching pony-tail
length...and I was starting to get a lot of Jerry Garcia
look-alike jokes.  After awhile, it got old, though -- too
much effort and it looked pretty scruffy, although some of
that may have been simple social survival: I was single once
again and somehow fat, grey and scruffy wasn't going over
very big...;-)

Nowadays, I'm pretty clean-cut looking.  Keeps them
guessing...  But it's just a lot less effort to keep up
with.  I ran into Bruce LaRue (sp?) last weekend, and he
didn't recognize me.  This usually happens to anyone whom I
haven't seen in a year or more, cuz I tend to change my
general appearance, just for grins, every once in awhile. 
Like I said, keeps 'em guessing...;-)

tim
278.181MKOTS3::JOLLIMORECouldn't stand the weatherFri Jan 26 1996 12:4621
	da ve,
	kombucha is a yeast culture commonly refered to as a mushroom.
	kombucha tea is a fermented beverage made from tea, sugar and the
	kombucha (or manchurian) mushroom. basically, you brew a gallon
	of tea, add brown sugar, and float the mushroom in it for 10-14
	days. Then you take out the mushroom (of which there now will be
	two) and strain the liquid to drink on a daily basis. It's a
	"health promoting" beverage.
	
	For lots more info, visit:
http://www.sease.com/kombucha/index.html
	
	tim,
	
	it's bruce laru. 
	and the second time i met you i had no idea who you were. cuz the
	first time i met you, you had a beard and bushy hair. it happens
	to me a lot cuz i have a beard half the year. anyone who meets me
	for the first time during the winter usually doesn't recognize my
	if we meet again in the summer.  ;-)
	
278.182ZENDIA::FERGUSONMr. Plumber's coding servicesWed Feb 28 1996 02:0118
well, a month late is better than never.
anyways, i *love* long hair on woman.
when i'm out and a woman walks by with long hair, 
that's the first thing that grabs my eye.  don't
know what it is, but i love it.  and, i love all
the woman at crested butte 'cuz most of 'em wear
it long.

me.. my hair is pretty unruley.  brush it once a
week if i'm lucky. no time.  dont wanna deal, plus,
i'm married! :-)  i get it cut when i cannot deal
with the pestering from deb, although lately, she's
been layin' off on that, and i get it cut when
it is so tangled and f*d up and i can't get it
straightened out!

beard will start coming off in phases april/may

278.183Office environments rotDELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meTue Apr 16 1996 15:528
    
    Beard, mustache, long messy hair, skier tan/windburn....
    
    People are coming in and asking odd questions like 
    "what happened?" and "are you okay?"
    
    My response "I was okay til now" or "you must've not 
    had nearly as good a weekend as I did".
278.184SPECXN::BARNESTue Apr 16 1996 15:592
    see, if ya looked like that *all* the time, no one would bother ya!
    %^)
278.185LJSRV2::JCNo friends on powder daysThu Feb 06 1997 21:026
well, got my first haircut of '97.
first once since i went to england back in Nov, so it has
been a few months.  reviews are positive.
i feel lighter.... it was getting very long!!!
people say i'd get more respect around here with the shorter
doo.  how lame.
278.186JARETH::LARUau contraire...Fri Feb 07 1997 11:2712
    There was a piece on one of the network magazine shows about a 
    neurosurgeon who had deveoped a technique to monitor pressure on
    the brain, which is key to preventing permanent damage and death
    from traumatic head injuries...  the neurosurgeon was a quite
    personable, clean-cut individual with sorta curly hair, in a 
    sorta-fro, about 1/3 the length of Einstein's, in the classic
    poster shot. The interviewer, running out of things to say,
    said, "So what's with the hair?"
    
    I thought we had gotten beyond that!
    
    /b
278.187AWECIM::HANNANBeyond description...Fri Feb 07 1997 13:168
re:         <<< Note 278.185 by LJSRV2::JC "No friends on powder days" >>>

> people say i'd get more respect around here with the shorter doo.  how lame.

People actually tell you this ?   Wow!   I'd have to come up with a real
good response to that kind of bs.

/Ken
278.188LJSRV2::JCNo friends on powder daysFri Feb 07 1997 17:117
one person told me that, but it was not unsolicited.  i got
the cut, they said it looks good and as a side comment, they
thought i'd get more respect.  in reality, it is probably true,
which is unforetunate.  but no one here is telling me to get a cut,
which is honorable.  if they told me to get a cut, that would be
a different ballgame....  so really, it is my choice.

278.189:^)WMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeFri Feb 07 1997 17:505
    tell them to screw if they make a comment about your hair
    
    
    
    then fire their ass
278.190LJSRV2::JCNo friends on powder daysThu Feb 13 1997 19:0917
i should tell them that.
yeah, good idea.
that way i can suddenly get a lot of free time to SKIII !!!!!!

:-)



   <<< Note 278.189 by WMOIS::LEBLANCC "All good things in all good time" >>>
                                    -< :^) >-

    tell them to screw if they make a comment about your hair
    
    
    
    then fire their ass

278.1918*)TRLIAN::DUGGANBornInTheDesert,RaisedInTheLion'sDenMon Feb 17 1997 12:004
    just remember what long hair did for Gen. Custer...
    
    ...mikey whose hair varies from 4" to 10" depending on how close it is
    to his annual shearing
278.192SPECXN::BARNESMon Feb 17 1997 13:176
    my hair is down to longer than the middle of my back...but the job 
    situation is lookin scary again so that may not be for long...and the
    wife and kids are after me to shave off the sides of my scraggly beard
    and just have one of those "hip gen-X" goatees....
    
    rfb
278.193you gotta be a hip heroin addict tooWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Feb 17 1997 13:372
    next thing you know you'll be going to lollapalooza
    :^)