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Title:Take my advice, you'd be better off DEAD
Notice:It's just a Box of Rain
Moderator:RDVAX::LEVY::DEBESS
Created:Thu Jan 03 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:580
Total number of notes:60238

85.0. "Non-Dead Reviews & Setlists" by TERAPN::PHYLLIS (Wake, now discover..) Wed Jan 09 1991 19:09

    
    Here's a place to write reviews and setlists for all those other shows.
    
    The keyword OTHER_BAND_REVIEWS has been assigned to this note.
    
    
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85.1Neil Young and Crazy Horse in Minn.!ITASCA::GEBHARTPolitician's throwing stonesWed Jan 23 1991 13:1327
    Well, Neil Young and Crazy Horse started off their tour at the Target
    center in Minneapolis last night.  The show was very much a "garage
    band" atmosphere.  The show was all electric - no acoustic.  The only
    things on stage were 2 20 foot tall guitar amplifier type speakers 
    (the kind you would see if you were jaming in you garage) on each side 
    of the drummer and next to the 20 foot speakers were some smaller 10 
    foot speaker. There was the drummer, the two other members of Crazy
    Horse and Neil. 
    
    Neil was very political (oviously :-) - The message I got was that 
    we have to support our troops, but war sucks (we should have learned
    by now), and we have to give everyone a bit of slack no matter how 
    bad they may screw some things up.  
    
    They mostly played new stuff from ragged glory. I can put a set list in
    if people would like but I am not sure how structured he will be with 
    future shows.  You can always put a Dead set list in because you know
    the next one will not be the same :-) :-) :-). Let me know on the set
    list and I will put it in to the best I can remember.
    
    All in all a good LOUD show.  Like I said before no acoustic set :-(.
    It was definetly a Crazy Horse show and not a neil show from what i have 
    heard from people who have gone to Neil shows in the past.
    
    Peace,
    
    scottg    
85.2LANDO::HAPGOODLeroy says, 'keep on rockin'Wed Jan 23 1991 14:5246
fyi....

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    Live in downtown Minneapolis.....
    Well, I saw the first show of this tour last night.  Social Distortion
    and Sonic Youth both opened up.  SD was thru by the time I got to the
    areana. SY came one about 8:30 and "played" for about 1/2 hour.  Maybe
    my ears have been damaged by going to so many concerts in the past
    years, but, I had to leave my seat when SY was on stage.  They were
    just too loud.  Maybe I don't understand their music wither, but its a
    free country.
    
    Anyway, Mr Young came on about 9:45 and played for 2 Hours with 1 short
    (<5 minute break).  The show was very political with the first song
    getting an automatic standing ovation!  I didn't write down a set list,
    but here are some of the songs played
    
    	Hey Hey
    	Rockin in the Free World
    	Tonight's the Night
    	Mansion on the Hill
    	Country Home
    	Prisoners of Rock and Roll
    
    I can do a more complete list later if anyone wants it!  
    
    The shirts ranged in price from $20-$35.  There were patches, bins and
    bandanas also.
    
    One thing I found strange (but good), Neil let his music do his taling
    for him.  The only thing he said to the crowd was "Hi, How ya doin' ".
    
    So, if you don't want to see the opening bands, get to the show about
    90 minutes after scheduled start time.  This will give you at least 1/2
    hour before Neil comes on.  
    
    It's well worth the money that people are spending at ticket agencys!
85.3OURGNG::RYANHypocrisy is the vaseline of political intercourseThu Jan 24 1991 15:5111
85.4FUNSPOCK::IRONSThu Jan 24 1991 16:017
    I saw ZZ on their Eliminator tour. VERY FUN concert!! Everyone seemed
    to have a blast.  Good fun rockin rollin music.  And back then,
    although they had a new album, they played a lot of oldies.  They're
    probably just as fun now, but I am growing tired of their "new" sound
    from Eliminator on.  If you don't mind this, GO SEE EM!!
    
    dave
85.5Short reviewMR4DEC::WENTZELLLately it occurs to me...Thu Jan 24 1991 17:0313
I went to ZZ Top Sunday night, they were indeed good.  They sounded a little to 
"big" though, not raw enough (at least for me).  Not really being into much of 
their stuff since Eliminator, I wanted to hear some older stuff.  They obliged 
with Waiting for the Bus, Jesus Just Left Chicago, Blue Jean Blues, Heard It 
On The X, Ten Foot Pole, Tush, Just Got Paid, just to name a few.  It was also 
neat because before the show I saw a friend of mine from high school who is a 
model and a (gasp) Club eMpTV dancer, she was hanging out at the soundboard and 
I only saw her from my seat (never spoke with her).  Well, just before Legs, 
about 7 or 8 scantily clad females strutted out on stage and low and behold, 
she was one of them.  I just wish I could have told the friends I was with that
I used to date her.  ;^)

Scott
85.6TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Tue Feb 05 1991 13:3010
    
    I saw the Neil Young & Crazy Horse show last night.  It was just like
    what was written in .1 ... very electric.. lots of energy.. Neil was
    dancing all over the stage all night.  Highlight for me was a powerful
    rendition of Blowin' in the Wind.  Other songs (in no particular
    order):  Hey Hey My My; Keep on Rockin' in the Free World; Cinnamon
    Girl; Powderfinger; Mansion on the Hill; Life without Parole and some
    others.  With encores, the show was a little under 2 hours.
    
    
85.7Neil Questions...BPOV02::DMITCHELLRaised 8 boys,only I turned badThu Feb 07 1991 10:5611
     re:6
    
    Phyllis,
    
    I'am going to see Neil friday,what time can I expect him to take the 
    stage? Is there just one opening act and what time do they come one?
    I need to plan my evening...
    
    Thanks,
    
    Don 
85.8TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Thu Feb 07 1991 14:448
    
    Neil came on at about 9:15.  The only opening act was Sonic Youth.  I
    don't know when they came on but it was probably close to on time.  We
    went in at 8:50 and missed them completely (which was the plan :-))
    
    Have fun!
    
    
85.9SA1794::GLADUGThu Feb 07 1991 16:377
    Anyone else going to see Neil & Crazy Horse on friday? A bunch of us will 
    be meeting at the Commonwealth Brewery before (and probably after) the
    show. 
    
    						Gerry
    
    PS - Phyllis, approximately how long did the set(s) run?
85.10TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Thu Feb 07 1991 16:499
    
    The set was about an hour and a half, and then about 20 minutes of
    encores.  The whole thing was under two hours.
    
    Get ready for a LOUD show!  I wish the Dead played that loud...
    or half that loud even.. I always think it's too low unless I'm right
    up front..
    
    
85.112 hrs.BIODTL::FERGUSONIs it just a waste of time?Thu Feb 07 1991 16:506
RE:                       <<< Note 85.9 by SA1794::GLADUG >>>
    
>    PS - Phyllis, approximately how long did the set(s) run?


I'm not Phyllis, but I believe she said approximately 2 hrs.
85.12ISLNDS::CLARKThu Feb 07 1991 16:521
I'm not Phyllis, but I play her on T.V.
85.13DASXPS::HENDERSONI see the soldiers come and goThu Feb 07 1991 19:067
I'm not Phyllis, but I still don't know what a leach is ;^)





Jim
85.14LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsThu Feb 07 1991 19:294
I'm not Phyllis, but I still think brussel sprouts are grotesque!  :-)

Lisa
85.15Incoming::::: digression!BIODTL::FERGUSONIs it just a waste of time?Thu Feb 07 1991 19:541
I'm not Phyllis either, but what I wanna know is, Where is She?
85.16Look out mama...BOSOX::BENJAMINThu Feb 07 1991 22:226
    I have a very good feeling that I am very much going to enjoy N.Y.
    and the Horse this Friday evening....2 hours of LOUD jammin', I'm
    soooooo psyched!!!
    
    
             :-) DaveB.
85.17TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Feb 08 1991 11:4911
    
    Well, Phyllis is right here, and first of all she wants to know when to
    start expecting royalty checks from Dave Clark?  And how exactly did
    this all go through without any script approval from me..hmmmm???? 
    Somebody's in BIG trouble!
    
    So, can I be me in the miniseries?  
    
    :-)
    
     
85.18LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsFri Feb 08 1991 12:218
>    So, can I be me in the miniseries?  

	Sure ... we'll call it

		"Phyllis sings I gotta be me"  :-)	
    
    :-)

85.19B&B&NBART3::SNODGRASSMon Feb 11 1991 14:255
    
    
    I don't if anyone saw yesterdays NBA allstar game, Bruce and Branford
    did the national anthem it was very sweet. And no-one made a sound til
    they were thru
85.20CLOSUS::BARNESMon Feb 11 1991 14:524
    Hornsby and Branford????
    ^^^^^^^
           rfb
    
85.21RT3::SNODGRASSMon Feb 11 1991 15:085
    
    
    Yup,
    
    and the did it super :-)
85.22Rads at the Bottom Line!TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Feb 22 1991 12:3064
    
    Well.... the Radiators last night were FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
    They are simply amazing acoustic.. I wish they did it more often.  The
    Bottom Line is the perfect venue too.. very intimate.. seats about 400.
    When we first got there, they made an announcement that the shows were
    being taped for Japanese Public TV and if anyone didn't want to be on
    Japanese tv they could go up to the box office and get a refund.  We
    figured we'd risk the exposure...:-)  Here's the play lists for both
    shows.  I put out the word that I want tapes (especially of the 1st
    set) but if anyone gets them before me.. please let me know!
    
    8:15
    
    Easy Chair
    Never Let Your Fire Go Out
    Backstreet Girl
    Tell It Like It Is
    Solid Ground
    Long Way to Go
    Doctor Doctor
    Fall of Dark
    Diamond Joe
    Red Wine Flow
    River Run
    Party 'til the Money Runs Out
    Corina
    Johnny Johnny Johnny
    Molasses
    Hide Your Love Away
    Can't Take it with You ->
    Land of 1000 Dances ->
    Can't Take it With You
    
    E:  Factory Girl
    	Brown Eyed Girl  (10:20)
    
    around 12:00 I think
    
    Wine Spo dee o dee
    Take it or Leave It
    Between two Fires
    She Caught the Katie
    Little Paradise
    Jigsaw
    Last Fair Deal Gone Down
    Love is a Tangle
    Come in my Kitchen
    Honey Dont
    UFOs Exactly
    Good Mornin Miss Brown
    Turtle Beach
    Rockin' Pneumonia
    Told it Like It Was
    Dead Flowers
    Lucinda ->
    Wine Spo dee o dee
    
    E:  ??  
    	Like Dreamers Do  around 2:00am
    
    
    :-)
    
    
85.23tapes for me 2 plezeCLOSUS::BARNESFri Feb 22 1991 14:182
    I LOVE THE RADS! and would love tapes of this show also! PLEZE!!
                                                                    rfb
85.24KALI::SIEGELOsmosis to the rescue!Fri Feb 22 1991 16:487
They did that all for one show?  Or was it 2 shows!  That's a lot of tunes!

Was "Can't Take it With You" the Allman Brothers song off "Enlightened Rogues"?

That's a great one!

adam
85.25TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Feb 22 1991 16:558
    
    That was 2 shows, about 2 hrs. each.  I think it's a different song but
    I don't really remember the Allman Bros one.  It was really great
    stuff.. I can't wait for the tapes!
    
    Phyllis
    
    
85.26Oyster Band w/ June Tabor at NightstageGR8FUL::WHITEWithout love in a dream...Fri Feb 22 1991 17:0949
	
	While Phyllis was boogeying to the Radiators, I was bopping 
	intensely to The Oyster Band with June Tabor at Nightstage in 
	Cambrige MA.
	
	Was this folk music?  Not exactly...
	
	Was it punk?  No...
	
	Was it acoustic?  Definitely not.
	
	Was is a smokin', rockin' show that had me dancing and whopping 
	and hollering and clapping and cheering?
	
			    ***  Absof*ckinglutely  ***
	
	The Oyster Band, dressed in the black and leather of the punks, 
	play a tradition sort of modern sort of uptempo heavy on the 
	rhythm music.  The lineup is drums, electric bass (Fender), 
	Rhythm guitar (Strat), fiddle, melodian (small accordian like 
	instrument).  The bass player for some tunes would play and 
	amplified cello - somtimes plucking, sometimes bowing.  Whatever 
	they do, it's excellent!
	
	June Tabor is a British singer who has been around a while.  She 
	has sung with the traditional music group Silly Sisters.  
	The past two tours were with simple accompaniment.  She has a 
	very smoky but smooth and very sultry voice.  She fronted the 
	band for about 2/3 of the set.  One a cappella number.
	
	The encore started out with "White Rabbit", sung by June, into a 
	traditional jig/reel type tune, with "I Fought The Law (and the 
	Law Won)" as the closer - the whole pace was singing along.
	
	The crowd stayed put, clapping and cheering until they came back 
	for a third encore - "All Along The Watchtower" jamming into a 
	another jig/reel tune during which they one by one left the 
	stage.
	
	And excellent show!  I highly recommend it to anyone who has a 
	chance to see them.  Like tonight at Clark University or 
	tomorrow night at the Iron Horse.
	
	Bob
	
	P.S. As for June Tabor, she's not attractive in the calssical 
	sense, but there's something about her personna that really does 
	it for/to me...  Whew! :-)
	
85.27tapesBEING::MIRABITOIt's so easy to slipFri Feb 22 1991 18:425
    Phyllis,  if you find any tapes, PLEASE let me know.  I would really
    love to hear them accoustically (is that a word 8)? )
    
    Thanks,
    --Cathleen
85.28TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Feb 22 1991 19:016
    
    Will do!
    
    maybe with one less c it might be. :-)
    
    
85.29SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Fri Feb 22 1991 19:206
ACOUSTIC RADS??!!??  YOWZA!!  I missed the "acoustic" part the first
time.  Someone should start a tape tree if they get a hold of these
tapes!!

peace,
t!ng
85.30TApes for Divide!BSS::DSMITHFri Feb 22 1991 21:236
     I could use some new RADS myself...
    
    Please include me in any tape tree!!!!!!
    
    Divide DAve
    
85.31FURTHR::HANNANBeyond description...Mon Feb 25 1991 11:434
	I've never heard the Radiators, ever, and I think maybe it's
	time to check this band out huh ?

	Ken
85.32CLOSUS::BARNESMon Feb 25 1991 14:134
    OH MAN!!! never heard of the RADS!!! I have soem gRATE tapes Probz
    made for me whwen he found out I'm a FEAT FAN...check him out, I'd
    do the dubbing for you, but he's closer. 
                                             rfb
85.33TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Mon Feb 25 1991 14:155
    
    Ok I'll let you all know when I get them!  I have a friend who has 120
    rads boots!  One of these days I'll have him make me a few.
    
    
85.34Old Florida band.SCAM::GRADYtim gradyMon Mar 04 1991 14:3020
    Ha!  The Outlaws.  (little known, and even less appreciated detail:
    they're from Tampa, Fl.)  It's hard to imagine them heading up that
    line up!  Real ass-kicking 'southern rock' band.  (actually,
    shit-kicking might be more accurate).
    
    There were a couple other Florida bands that never really made it as
    big as the Outlaws, but whom I thought did much nicer work.  There used
    to be a band around here in '76 or so called the 'Steamboat Springs
    Band', although they may have just been a Colorado band that toured
    here at the time.  Before that, there was a rather large band called
    Red Dog Kin (I have no idea what that means) who even had a dobro and a
    pedal steel - no idea whatever happened to them either.  They used to
    jokingly refer to themselves as the 'Loxahatchee River Valley
    Shitkickers', which may be some kind of translation of their 'real'
    name.
    
    Anyway, I hadn't heard about the Outlaws in a LONG time...
    
    tim
    
85.35Green Grass and High TidesMR4DEC::WENTZELLHeartlessPowersTellUsWhatToThinkMon Mar 04 1991 14:465
I luv the Outlaws!!  I saw them open for Charlie Daniels in the Centrum about 6 
years ago and they played LOUD (not a bad thing ;^)).  They used to be around 
here a lot in those days...

Scott
85.36Shee-it!SCAM::GRADYtim gradyMon Mar 04 1991 14:5314
    Didn't mean to put them down, at the time I kinda liked that style,
    although I was probably more partial to Marshall Tucker.  Over time, I
    guess I just got more hardcore about bluegrass and didn't listen to the
    Southern Rock stuff much.
    
    Funny, I could never stand Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird reminds me of
    fingernails scratching on a blackboard...but lots of perfectly sane
    and (nearly) normal people like it.  Oh, well.  :-)
    
    No offense intended to anybody out there...just trying to delve into
    the topic of this particular genre' a bit.
    
    tim
    
85.37SCAM::GRADYtim gradyMon Mar 04 1991 14:5610
    Back on that subject of the Oregon show that John brought up, I'd LOVE
    to see the boyz and Santana.  I've always been impressed with the
    really wide variety of artistic styles that Carlos has embraced by
    playing with other artists (like, say, John McLaughlin for example).
    John, I'll bet that was one hot show, in every sense of the word!
    
    Impressive versatility.  Never seen him live, unfortunately.
    
    tim
    
85.38Bringing back the memories...MR4DEC::WENTZELLHeartlessPowersTellUsWhatToThinkMon Mar 04 1991 15:0420
hey Tim, no offense taken at all!!!  Too bad you never liked Skynyrd, before I 
got into the dead they were probobly my favorite band.  Freebird is not one of 
my favorites, but I really love most of theri stuff.

RE: Marshall Tucker

Love these guys too!!  The first concert I ever saw was my freshman year in 
high school when they played an outdoor show on the baseball field of another 
local high school (Assabet Valley Tech).  We got early mid-afternoon and when 
the gates opened we sprinted for front row, spread out a blanket, and had a 
wonderful time.  What a show it was - it's one of those memories I'll carry 
forever.  I was really psyched when Slipknot played 24 Hours At a Time (I 
think?  Or was it another?  Sheesh, talk about brain-fade) at Chets a few 
weeks ago!!!!


I haven't listened to much bluegrass, but I'm sure I'd like it.

Scott    

85.39TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Mon Mar 04 1991 15:2812
    
    I used to love southern rock too..
    
    I saw a great concert senior year in high school down in JFK stadium. 
    It was the Allman Bros., Marshall Tucker, the Outlaws, Charlie Daniels
    and 38 Special.
    
    Good memories...
    
    :-)
    
    
85.40;-)OURGNG::RYANbut Momma. that's where the fun is ...Mon Mar 04 1991 16:1114
RE. 24.7

 Tim,

  It really was a great show, and for me particularly nice since I didn't 
ruin the memory of it, the way I have often done, by over indulging.  There is 
an advantage to going with your 4 & 9 year olds.  ;-)

  I was telling rfb I liked the sets and his reply was "but there wasn't any
new stuff .."  and then he realized that was 13 years ago.  Are we getting old
or what!!! 

  john

85.41Give me three steps mister, plueeesssee ;-)OURGNG::RYANbut Momma. that's where the fun is ...Mon Mar 04 1991 16:156
 gee Tim, i would love to have seen Lynyrd Skynyrd, and I liked Freebird
because of the jam, and I always want to see Charlie Daniels at the Tennessee
Volunteer Jam.  They have some grate times there,.

  john
85.42SCAM::GRADYtim gradyMon Mar 04 1991 18:095
    I thought Gimme 3 steps was a 38 Special tune?  Was that Skynyrd?
    I always gotta kick outta that one.
    
    t
    
85.43I was cutting the rug down at a place called the JugMR4DEC::WENTZELLHeartlessPowersTellUsWhatToThinkMon Mar 04 1991 18:4516
RE:                  <<< Note 24.12 by SCAM::GRADY "tim grady" >>>

    >I thought Gimme 3 steps was a 38 Special tune?  Was that Skynyrd?
    >I always gotta kick outta that one.
    
    Definately a Skynyrd tune.  I did see Skynyrd when the came around on 
    their reunion tour.  It was the original line-up with the exception of the 
    deceased.  Actually only two were not "original" - Johnny Van Zant who 
    sang (brother of lead singer Ronnie; their other brother, Donnie, plays in 
    .38 Special) and one other guitar player who had jammed with them in the 
    old days (name escapes me).  They were good, although I imagine that it 
    could be equated to seeing Led Zeppelin without John Bonham; something 
    missing.

    Scott

85.44KALI::SIEGELOsmosis to the rescue!Mon Mar 04 1991 21:0327
re:    <<< Note 24.13 by MR4DEC::WENTZELL "HeartlessPowersTellUsWhatToThink" >>>
           -< I was cutting the rug down at a place called the Jug >-

>    Definately a Skynyrd tune.  I did see Skynyrd when the came around on 
>    their reunion tour.  It was the original line-up with the exception of the 
>    deceased.  Actually only two were not "original" - Johnny Van Zant who 
>    sang (brother of lead singer Ronnie; their other brother, Donnie, plays in 
>    .38 Special) and one other guitar player who had jammed with them in the 
>    old days (name escapes me).  They were good, although I imagine that it 
>    could be equated to seeing Led Zeppelin without John Bonham; something 
>    missing.

I saw the reunion tour, also.  It was the best sound I've ever had at the
Centrum.  They also had the best looking video screens I've ever seen (best
looking meaning excellent video image quality).

Along with the original members, there was a third guitar player, Randall Hall,
who took the place of the now deceased Allen Collins, who was in a wheelchair
at the time and unable to play.

The other two guitar players were Gary Rossington (a consistent member) and Ed
King, who was with them in the beginning (played bass on the first album or
two) but left around 1976 when he got sick of touring.  This is why they picked
up the late Steve Gaines.  Ed King is a computer programmer living in New
Jersey last I heard!  He's got a beautiful wood grain guitar, too.

adam
85.45MR4DEC::WENTZELLHeartlessPowersTellUsWhatToThinkMon Mar 04 1991 22:0226
RE:           <<< Note 24.14 by KALI::SIEGEL "Osmosis to the rescue!" >>>

Yeah, Randall Hall, that's him.  I have a sort of "video yearbook" of the 
reunion tour - it's a good look behind the scenes of the tour as well as who 
Lynyrd Skynyrd was/is (interviews with parents, etc.).  Some good footage of 
the original band, although not enough IMO.  Narrated by Charlie Daniels.  
Drop me a line if you want to borrow it.

>The other two guitar players were Gary Rossington (a consistent member) and Ed
>King, who was with them in the beginning (played bass on the first album or
>two) but left around 1976 when he got sick of touring.  This is why they picked
>up the late Steve Gaines.  Ed King is a computer programmer living in New
>Jersey last I heard!  He's got a beautiful wood grain guitar, too.

Yup, Ed King played bass on the first album, and guitar on the next two (Leon 
Wilkenson joined to play bass).  He says it was his addiction to drugs that 
forced him to quit the band, as well as almost killing him.

BTW, I saw them at Great Woods from way up high on the lawn, so the sound 
system itself couldn't really shine for my ears.  I wish I had made the 
Centrum show.  They did play Curtis Lowe though, which made my night.

Man, all this talk of Skynyrd - I know what I'm going to listen to on the way 
home!!  :^)

Scott
85.46huh???BARFLY::BELKINthe slow one now will later be fastTue Mar 05 1991 12:216
  Gee, Mr. Moderators, my notebook must be messed up.  I'm reading this note, 
"General Discussion: re: Grateful Dead Concerts", and I'm really in the
note for discussion of NON Grateful Dead concerts!!!

	Josh "virtual Bob" Belkin   ;-)
85.47:^) digression from hell...STRATA::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryTue Mar 05 1991 12:325
    
    funny you should mention that Josh...  i was just noticing that myself!
    
    			da "virtual moderator" ve
    
85.48responsible for your actions.BIODTL::FERGUSONIs it just a waste of time?Tue Mar 05 1991 12:343
I noticed that too; but rather than piss on the fire, I said "F it" ...


85.49adding fuel to the digression....LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsTue Mar 05 1991 13:116
Well JC, as your friend I'd just like to assure that if you ever do decide
to "piss on a fire" I sure hope you stand back.  Wouldn't want you to hurt
yourself!  :-)

Lisa_virtual_digressor_from_Hell  ;^)
85.50Digression continues... BIODTL::FERGUSONIs it just a waste of time?Tue Mar 05 1991 14:4312

	********>  NOTE  <********	

	If you gross-out or offend easily, go to the next note...



Re: lisa

If my urine was flammable, you would not see me at the gas station!  I'd just
piss in my gas tank and let 'r rip....
85.51you must be grate at cookouts ;-)OURGNG::RYANbut Momma. that's where the fun is ...Tue Mar 05 1991 15:0723
  JC

  Two things:

   First; I just had this visual image of you pissing on a fire and Varoooooming
off sorta like a rocket....;-)

   Second;  reminded me of me friend that stopped one night, on a walk home with 
a bunch of us, to relieve himself.  He sorta scootched up to a fence corner and
let er go, but to his surprise and dismay he quickley found out it was an 
electrified fence!!   Still holding his privates that were now spraying every-
where, he yelped and jumped straight up in the air sorta turning sideways.
When he landed again he was turned 90 degrees and sure enough sprayed the 
other side of the corner and with another scream went straight up in the air 
again!!  I believe he turned 180 degrees in the air, ran 10 feet away from the 
fence, while still 4 feet up, somewhat like Wiley Coyote, and landed, still 
holding his singed "jewels ;-)" with both hands and a dazed look on his face.
When we could finally get up from laughing we took him home and waited while 
he changed his pants.


   john 
85.52better head back to Tennessee, Jed... :-)DICKNS::STANLEYWhat a long strange trip it's been...Tue Mar 05 1991 15:465
    
    
    Oh man!!  :-)
    
    		some days nothing seems to go right, huh? :-)
85.53Ouch.SCAM::GRADYtim gradyTue Mar 05 1991 18:1111
    Ok, Ok, I apologize for the monster digression - I guess I started it 
    with my Outlaws rambling.
    
    John Ryan, as I've suspected for some time now, you're one sick puppy! :-)
    I'm having trouble just sitting comfortably after that story.
    
    Happy Trails.
    
    tim
    
    
85.54arf arf barf arf arf .... move it on over , rock it on over, a big bad dog is moving inOURGNG::RYANbut Momma. that's where the fun is ...Tue Mar 05 1991 18:1614
  being a sick puppy in this society may be a correct move.

  and by the way me friend, just who is calling the kettle black indeed????

  and further, if I had just received three nights of tickets i wouldn't
be complaining about one night of side stage seats....

  and ;-)  ;-)  ;-)

   john

  btw - talked to Coz last night she visited my most favoritist place in Eugene
        and said to tell all "hi" of "high" not sure which  ;-)  
85.55B.B. King @ Clubland (E.M. Lowes)MR4DEC::WENTZELLBuilt for comfortFri Mar 29 1991 11:3727
If you like the blues and ever get the chance to see B.B. King, DO IT!!!

He was HOT last night!  the show started with his band coming on stage (2 sax 
players, 1 trumpet, bass, drums, guitar, and keyboards which alternated between
a Hammond B3 and a synth used for straight piano).  They jammed out a little 
bit, each taking their turn in the spotlight.  Then after about 5-10 minutes, 
B.B. King came out and just lit up his black Gibson - he calls it Lucille.  To 
see those HUGE hands on that guitar to me it was amazing that he could play 
like he did.  He played some real jumpin tunes as well as a few real slow, 
deliberate, and drawn out blues jams.  The highlights for me were his 
rendition of the Billie Holiday song Ain't Nobody's Business and his stories 
about growing up in Mississippi which lead into a very very nice The Thrill is 
Gone.  The encore was a cool song and the chorus was something like "Let's all 
work together to bring PEACE to the world."

He is really a great musician and knows how to play to the crowd which made for 
a really fun (although somewhat short at 1hr45mins) show.


And I've got to tell ya, I've been able to balance one of the most brutal weeks 
I've ever had at work with some great music - Dead Monday, a even-better-than-
usual Ronnie Earl Wednesday, and BB King on Thursday.  Wish I could see 
Slipknot this weekend (goin skiing)...


Scott
85.56koko - queen of the bluesRAB::HEFFERNANJuggling FoolFri Mar 29 1991 13:1914
Koko Taylor was pretty hot last night up in the Palace Theater in
Manchester.

I actually liked the first set better that the second.  She was great
and very expressive physically and also vocally.  Hightlights for me
were I Am A Woman, Wang Dang Doodle and a really awesome song called I
Rather Be which really blew me away.

There was also some smokin guitar work for the encore.

The crowd was really into it (one of the things I like about the
blues is the two way communication)...

See her if you get a chance...
85.57TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Mar 29 1991 13:356
    
    A bunch of us went to see Koko Taylor and Buddy Guy on my birthday..
    great show!  Koko is an amazing singer and Buddy Guy just blew me away.
    
    I love the blues too. 
    
85.58NEW MOON; a good local band.DECXPS::BRIDGEScounting stars by candlelightMon Apr 08 1991 11:1319
 Friday night when I arrived at my second job, they asked if I would
like to take the night off. So when my boss convinced me it wasn't 
some kind of cruel joke I accepted. Anyways, my friend Matt, myself
and Matt's friend Nina, went to see this local band called New Moon.
They were fantastic!!! Not real tight, lacking in equipment, more 
like a garage band, but if you enjoy some raw rock and roll sound now and
then check 'em out. They play Dead, CSN, Lil Feat, originals, and lots of
early thru late 60's tunes. One tune they did was FUNNY, the singer claimed
he wrote it on his honeymoon. It's called Baby I want to be your bicycle seat.

 The show was at O'Briens in Allston. We danced all nite, and I don't usually
dance. Matt's friend Nina is the type that can make anyone feel good. She even
had me slow dancing to Ramble on Rose.  The band played a GRATE version of
Long Time Gone. 


Shawn


85.59April 20, 1991 Foxboro, MACURIE::WENTZELLBuilt for comfortWed Apr 24 1991 16:3870
Quick Earthday review...

We didn't know where we were sitting until we got there and we ended up in 7th 
row center stage - this put me in a good mood right from the start.  I'm not 
going to go through all the acts because we were in there for about 8 hours and 
I'm sure I'd bore you all to tears.  I'll just highlight a few...

Jesse Jackson - politics aside, this man is a great speaker.  I never really 
took him seriously for a variety of reason but the things he said and the way 
he said them really stirred up some people and he gained some new respect from 
me.

Willie Nelson - didn't play long but although I've never been a fan I 
thought he was pretty darn good.  His band was really tight and could carry a 
tune quite nicely.  On the Road Again was fun to hear.

Billy Bragg - had never heard of him before, but he was enjoyable.  He's from 
the UK and his music is pretty interesting.  A few of the other artists came 
out to play with him and he seemed to be well-liked by both them and the 
audience.

Indigo Girls - I missed a lot of them because I was taking a bio break and 
standing in line for a brew, but the little I did catch was ok.  Not great, but 
ok.

Jackson Browne - I was happy that he stayed away from his "hits" and played 
songs that seemed to fit into the Earth Day theme.  I didn't recognize most 
of them but as a fan of his I could have easily listened to much more.

Maxi Priest - I had no idea what to expect, in fact the first thing I thought 
of was a Judas Priest sound-alike, ugghhh.  Well, much to my [pleasant] 
surprise they are a reggae band.  They have more of a "pop" sound to them than 
stright reggae but I still had a good time dancing and swaying to their tunes.

10,000 Maniacs - they were definately the surpise hit of the night for me.  I 
had a limited exposure to them before, and they seemed rather boring and flat.  
Well, they REALLY came alive on stage and, at least from the 7th row, they 
really played with intensity and drive.  The lead singer, Natile 
what's-her-face, really has an amazing voice and could really belt 'em out.  
They played a long set (relative to the rest of the acts).

Bruce and the Range - first time seeing them for me, and their studio albums do 
them no justice.  They had the crowd on their feet and dancing (at least 
around us) from start to finish.  He really put some nice jamming into his 
"pop" tunes.  After a few songs he said "hi" to all the Dead fans and got a 
big reaction from the crowd.  The next song, might have been Valley Road, 
segued into Not Fade Away.  Wasn't the Dead, but he played it well and looked 
to be having a great time in the process (as was the audience).  NFA segued 
back into Valley Road.  He then took a minute to talk up the Deadicated album 
and the Dead in general (said something like "if you like good music give them 
a listen") and played his version of Jack Straw.  Haven't heard the album 
version yet, but he did a good job with it this night, building it up and 
bringing it back down several times and not missing a single lyric ;^).  
Seemed to be the biggest crowd pleaser as well 8^)

Encore - Bruce brough out everyone who had been there throughout the day for 
the big encore, which was a long version of Marley's Get Up, Stand Up.  There 
were about 25 or so people performing on stage, with at least another 30+ 
hanging out and dancing on the sides of the stage.  Made for a fun and 
full-sounding rendition.

All in all a fun day.  The 8 or 9 hours we spent in the stadium passed 
quickly, so we must have had a good time!  Being down front out of the stiff 
breeze helped,I know people who were back in the stadium who were driven away 
by the cold and wind just after dark (it had to be in the low 40s).  I was 
dissappointed by the amount of trash all over the place when we got back to 
the car though, being Earth Day and all.  We spend a little time picking up 
around where we were but we barley we able to make a dent. 8^(

Scott
85.60SPOCK::IRONSMight as wellTue Apr 30 1991 15:479
>back into Valley Road.  He then took a minute to talk up the Deadicated album 
>and the Dead in general (said something like "if you like good music give them 
>a listen") and played his version of Jack Straw.  Haven't heard the album 
    
    
    Oh, thanks a lot Bruce. Great.  I sure hope we have *more* people come
    to dead concerts, there sure ain't enough now.
    
    Boris
85.61Fur Peace Ranch BenefitTERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Tue Apr 30 1991 17:5528
    
    This past Saturday I went to a very cool fund raiser at Jorma
    Kaukonen's house in Woodstock, NY.  Jorma and his wife are moving to
    a ranch in Ohio and starting a guitar camp.  Saturday was a day spent
    trying to raise money for the Fur Peace Ranch by auctioning off
    equipment, old posters, tee's, etc.  (I bought a Hot Tuna coloring
    book.)  And of course - lots of great tunes provided by Jorma, Michael 
    Falzerano, Roy Bookbinder, the most recent Hot Tuna drummer (whose name 
    I've forgotten) and special guest Jack Casady!  (yay!! :-))  Our own
    little private Hot Tuna show!! It was like hanging out at your friend's 
    house, and a couple folks pick up guitars and start playing -- and the 
    couple of folks are Jorma and Jack!  There were maybe 100 people there, 
    and we all hung around on the lawn and in the driveway, and the band was 
    set up in front of the garage.  It was really as informal as it sounds.. 
    during set breaks and before and after the tunes, Jorma and Jack walked 
    around and bs'd with everyone.. took pictures.. etc.  My favorite part
    was the last set, around 9:00.  It was all acoustic, no microphones
    (respect for the neighbors).  Everyone stood really close, pictured a
    camp fire ;-), and just jammed!  They played a lot of old blues raps
    with Roy Bookbinder singing the verses.. he's one of those guys who
    knows all the words to all those old funny songs.. and all the rest of
    us, the crowd, Jack, Jorma, Michael.. just cracking up at the words and
    then chiming in for the chorus.  It was fun watching Jorma and Jack
    getting off on other musicians and laughing with them and knowing they
    didn't know any more words than we did.  Definately a special day I'll
    remember for a long time.  :-)
    
    
85.62peace Boris ol' bud! :^)STRATA::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryTue Apr 30 1991 18:589
    re .60
    
    hey now Boris....   let us try and keep in mind that it aint just a 
    private show for us...  there's a whole world of cool people out 
    there who just haven't found it yet...  let 'em come...  and let's
    everyone try to exude such degrees of coolness that the new folks
    can't help but be hip to what's happening...
    
    				da ve_exuding_hipness_from_every_pore :^)
85.63Neat!SCAM::GRADYtim gradyWed May 01 1991 11:2910
>          <<< Note 85.61 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >>>
>                          -< Fur Peace Ranch Benefit >-
    
      Wow.  I'm incredibly jealous.  Sounds like an amazing evening.
    
    I don't suppose you had a spare D6 with you? :-)....
    
    tim
    
    
85.64TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Wed May 01 1991 12:0715
    
    Actually, a couple of guys were set up to tape but were told to take
    their stuff down.  I do know one guy who taped anyway - from inside his
    bag - but I'm not sure how I feel about getting a copy.  How many "rock
    stars" would invite fans to a party at their house, even if they are
    moving?  I figure if Jorma didn't want us to tape, then we shouldn't. 
    There's certainly enough of his stuff around, ya know?  I will admit to
    being bummed when Vanessa (his wife) asked the tapers to remove their
    stuff to begin with, but it's certainly their right.
    
    We were all kindof hoping we could do it this weekend at Jack's house,
    but he said it'd be a little much to fly us all out there. :-)
    
    Phyllis
    
85.65SA1794::GLADUGWed May 01 1991 13:205
    Did you see any guys running video and taping for Jorma? They're
    friends of mine (and Jorma's of course) and would slip me a copy
    if they were there (probably were).
    
    - Gerry
85.66TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Wed May 01 1991 13:2513
    
    There was one guy videotaping who said he was giving it to Jorma when
    he was done, asking people to say things, etc.  Maybe it was him? 
    Tall, light brown maybe blond hair?  He definately got a lot of
    footage.  Towards the end of the show, the band turned around and had
    their backs to all of us and most of us thought it was cause they were
    tired of having the video camera in their faces. :-)  
    
    Anyway, please let me know if you get any "authorized" copies.
    
    Thanks,
    Phyllis
    
85.67SA1794::GLADUGWed May 01 1991 13:271
    Rather husky fellow?
85.68TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Wed May 01 1991 13:357
    
    No, I don't think so.  He's the only one I saw with a video camera 
    though.  It was such a small group I probably would've seen him but
    it's still possible I didn't.  Or maybe he just audio taped - I
    definately could've missed that.
    
    
85.69SA1794::GLADUGWed May 01 1991 13:591
    In any case if he didn't tape, he'd be able to get a copy from Jorma.
85.70SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Wed May 01 1991 15:025
Did Jorma have something against the taping or was it some other
"authority"??  Sounds like a good time!!  8-)

peace,
t!ng
85.71TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Wed May 01 1991 15:056
    
    Well, it was Jorma's wife who told them no taping allowed.
    
    It was a grate time!  :-)
    
    
85.72:^)STRATA::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryWed May 01 1991 15:073
    now that's a "higher authority" if i ever heard of one! :^)
    
    					da ve
85.73SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Wed May 01 1991 15:336
>    now that's a "higher authority" if i ever heard of one! :^)
    
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!  I hear ya!!  8-)

peace,
t!ng
85.74musician's code of jamming paragraph 62BSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Thu May 02 1991 13:147
    like they say,..
    
    	If you want to have a good jam session,.. leve the recorder in
    the bag
    
    							/
    
85.75bag it, tag it,sell it to the butcher store!BOSOX::ABURNSTAMALPAIS CHIEFSMon May 06 1991 17:0129
    I checked out the Phish show this Sat and came away quite
    pleased :^)! I kinda suspected I was in for a good time 
    as Davis Sqare was ablaze with colourful tie-dies, glowing 
    faces and a sense of eager anticipation :^) This type of
    scene always has a pleasing effect on me! With the help of
    one of the "Phishheads" I got this semi-comlpete list:
    
    set 1                   set 2
    Oh Keefah               Walking Across The Lawn
    Suzie Greenberg         ___________
    __________              ___________
    Reba!!!                 Famous Mocking Bird!
    My Sweet One            Harry
    Split Open And Melt!!   ___________
    __________              Rockytown Tenn.
    Fluffhead               Possum
    __________              Runaway Jim
    
    Encore1:Golghi          Encore2:Apparatus
    
    My friend Dave was pretty much right on the button when 
    he said they were like a Zappa type music with the sudden
    changing rythms and the "out of tune harmonies". Highlite
    was a Smoking Reba. 
    
    Thanks for putting up their schedule in Happenings whoever
    you were!
    
    peace,Andy
85.76Fred SmallSCAM::GRADYtim gradyMon May 13 1991 11:529
    On friday night I went to see a folk singer/guitarist from the
    Cambridge Ma. who appeared in Clearwater.  His name is Fred Small, and
    he's really fantastic.
    
    Made me wish I lived up there again.  If you get the chance to see this
    guy, by all means go!
    
    tim
    
85.77Rads in CalSKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Tue May 28 1991 17:3137
How come there's no note for the Radiators??  We went to see the Rads over
the weekend in Santa Clara on Friday and in San Francisco on Sunday.  The
shows were great!!  The sound at One Step Beyond in Santa Clara though is
definitely one step beneath average.  The show opened up with some heavy-metal
band that got us scrambling for the ear-plugs -> loud and obnoxious.  Good
thing they didn't stay very long since after a while they sort of got the hint
that everyone was waiting for the Rads.  I guess One Step Beyond is regularly
a heavy-metal club, so they didn't figure to get a different type of opening
band just because the Rads were New Orleans music 8-/.  We were so happy when
the Rads finally came out. We were right up against the rail in front of Ed but
the vocals were barely audible since the setup has them coming out of the side
speakers, but that wasn't going to move us back 8-).  We were psyched!!  I'm
still a Rads novice, having been to only 8 shows, so I won't attempt to put
together the set lists (yet), but they did end the Santa Clara sets with
Gimme Some Lovin' and Quinn (Ed renders quite a soulful version).

Sunday's show was a lot hotter!!  The Great American Music Hall is *such* an
exotic place to see a show.  The place holds about 200-300 people and is
exquisitely decorated in the traditional play house style.  The stage is
very small and the sound is excellent!!  I can just imagine what it must've
been like there when the Dead recorded their Make Believe Ballroom concert!!
What a show that must've been!!  I planted myself against the rail right
in front of Reggie!!  You can tell that they were way more psyched to be
there than at One Step Beyond.  The whole atmosphere was just so much more
personalized, and you can feel the energy in the air.  The interplay,
especially between Dave and Camille was just incredible (Dave always
reminds me of da ve -> must be the hair 8-).  Reggie jammed, but he seemed
more isolated even while blending in.  They didn't bring their Fish Banner
out this time, but none of us need to be reminded that *this* is the fish-
head music all of you east-coasters had been enjoying for so long.  I'm
so glad they made it out west.  Maybe next time they make it out, some
of us will have to invite them to a private party.  We don't get enough of
them out here 8-/.  Maybe I'll quit my job and follow them on tour (where
have I heard that before?? 8-)

peace,
t!ng
85.78TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Tue May 28 1991 17:3410
    
    Sounds grate!  I love the Rads too..
    
    > Maybe next time they make it out, some of us will have to invite them 
      to a private party. 
    
    I had heard that Bob Jaffe was doing just that.  I take it he didn't..?
    
    Phyllis
    
85.79SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Tue May 28 1991 18:1613
re:  <<< Note 85.78 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >>>

>    > Maybe next time they make it out, some of us will have to invite them 
>      to a private party. 
>    
>    I had heard that Bob Jaffe was doing just that.  I take it he didn't..?
    
Yes, he/we tried, but we'll get it together for next time (wanna come out
for a private party?? 8-)  I guess it was too short a notice...I'll do a
review if we pull it off 8-).

peace,
t!ng
85.80TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Tue May 28 1991 18:196
    
    >  (wanna come out for a private party?? 8-)  
    
    You bet!  :-)
    
    
85.81CLOSUS::BARNESTue May 28 1991 19:244
    yes the rads!!! grate stuff, I haven't heard all of the new album (i
    assume it's out, I heard cuts from it a month ago..then nothing!!)
    
                                                              rfb
85.82PARTY HARDY!!SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Tue May 28 1991 20:5110
>    >  (wanna come out for a private party?? 8-)  
>    
>    You bet!  :-)
    
Ok, you're invited!!  Better keep an eye on the Fish-head schedule and get
that plane tic ready!!  8-)

peace,
t!ng

85.83for those jonesin' for some words about last night...ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryFri Jul 26 1991 19:2671
    for those of you who are starved for Bob & Rob reviews, well, you're
    probably going to have to go hungry for  alittle while more...  i
    didn't keep a set list, partly because i don't know all the song titles
    for tuna/bob/rob...  also because i'm not the best show reviewer in the
    world and i'll probably try and keep this short (lots of typing
    today)...
    
    tuna was a first for me...  and i must say, i very much enjoyed them...
    in fact i very much enjoyed the whole show, IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT I
    THOUGHT THE SOUND WAS EXCEEDINGLY MEDIOCRE!  maybe it's just me, but i
    was not all that thrilled with the overal job that the sound
    dude/dudette did...  couldn't always make out words...  couldn't always
    hear all the parts...  it was enjoyable and the musicianship was
    impressive but the sound just wasn't quite there for me for a lot of
    the show...  part of it was due to location i'm sure, but as i wandered
    around the place during tunas set i found some good spots, some bad
    spots, but never quite perfect...  oh well...  it's part of live music
    i guess...
    
    why is it that i always seem to find tms during walkin' blues?  :^) 
    happened at MSG last year and again last night!  oh, and tms, i decided
    that i HAD seen you since your party that time...  it's just that we
    never really had much chance to do anything but smile and wave... 
    still always good to catch that infectious smile of yours whenever i
    can!  :^)
    
    one thing last nights tuna set made me want to do was catch them in a
    nice little place like the iron horse or old vienna...  seems like the
    perfect show for that kind of intimate environment...  i enjoyed the
    slide work immensely...  Jorma tapes have brought me some smiles in my
    day, Jorma live is even better...  talking with Gerryg, he told me Jack
    was a little hard to hear...  i thought i could hear him ok, but as Ger
    pointed out, i've never seen him before...  this leads me to surmise
    that he is usually much more prominent in the mix...
    
    Bob and Rob did a fine job i thought...  although the stage theatrical
    type stuff seemed a bit out of character...  one of the first things i
    noticed coming into the shed was the big "applause" sign...  you know,
    like they have on Johnny Carson that they light up when he tells jokes
    and no one laughs???  i thought it was terribly tacky...  i found it
    somewhat humorous in that it was lighting up most in inappropriate
    places...  almost made me think that the light dude was messing with
    Bobby's mind a little...  i did enjoy the smoke show at the beginning
    and end of the set though...  a bit theatrical, but it was kind of
    neat...  i had to laugh out loud when he played Misty and the stage was
    suddenly all misty!!  :^)  my fav tunes from Bobby's set were
    Desolation Row and Easy to Slip...
    
    a drag to see those two clowns that hopped up on stage with them...
    yeah, sure, i'd like to put my arm around Bobby and tell him he did
    great too but i'm not about to screw up the show and risk having my
    neck broke by security to do it...  :^(
    
    Rob's bass solo was hot...  gotta luv him!!!  such a talent...
    
    at the end of thier set it seemed to me that they were hoping the
    audience would chime in and sing along with them while they were
    "rockin all night with you" or whatever it was (memry fails! :^)...
    folks didn't seem to pick up on it or just weren't into it though...
    
    then, satisfaction!!!!  tuna, bob and rob all together doing the
    stones!  good fun!  :^)
    
    really good to see so many DECheads there!!!!  i don't know if i have
    ever seen so many at one show before...
    
    well, not much of a review to be sure...  just a few ramblings from one
    worn out individual who has had about all the excitement he can stand
    for one week!  i wanna go home and take a nap...  :^)
    
    					da ve 
85.84maybe jerry 92JUPITR::MCINTYRESat Jul 27 1991 04:459
    i to thought tuna sound could have been better i did sit on lawn for 
    their set and i thought it could have been a little louder. i sat 
    inside for bob and rob and thought sound was great. as i am biased
    security would not realy stangeled them they just throw them out
    but if you happened to break bands equipment you just bought it.
    all in all i thought crowd was well behaved and maybe get jerry
    back next year as long as its a week night and keep the town 
    happy not being overrun as the last visit on a weekend. i don,t
    think crowd would have been much bigger for jerry on a week night?
85.85where were you ?SMAUG::BLATTMon Aug 12 1991 11:5615
Marty Balin at the Old Vienna in Westboro

his voice was wonderful to hear again.  its as strong as it was back then.
he did some of the old Airplane tunes. no set lists but songs included Today, 
Plastic Fantastic Lover, Miracles, Caroline, St. Charles and of course 
Volunteers.

the backup band (lead guitar, keyboard, drummer) did a find job at reproducing
the old Airplane sound.  

i understand this was the last show of a 3 week visit.  if you get a chance
to hear him (especially in such a small intimate place) do it (twice).

see you in september (i hope)
lew
85.86how about the opener???ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryMon Aug 12 1991 16:147
    damn...  forgot about the Marty show...  i wanted to check that out
    too...
    
    did you catch Flathead (scheduled opener)??????  i saw him  a couple
    of weeks ago in harvard sq and he was really fine...  
    
    					da ve
85.87yes, Flathead was thereSMAUG::BLATTMon Aug 12 1991 16:232
yes...flathead opened both sets...very entertaining...and by the way folks,
boston series 1 is in, SEE YOU THERE !
85.88WFOVX8::BUTZEQuick beat of an icy heart...Mon Aug 12 1991 16:483
    Is that David "Flathead" Newman??
    
    rich
85.89don't know...ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryMon Aug 12 1991 17:246
    
    i don't know what his full name is...  when i saw him all i knew
    was "flathead"...  he had tapes that said "flathead" that he was
    selling...  long brownish hair, avg hgt and build...
    
    					da ve
85.90no LTERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Mon Aug 12 1991 17:255
    
    It's David FATHEAD Newman, so you must be discussing two different
    people.
    
    
85.91he's good tooWFOVX8::BUTZEQuick beat of an icy heart...Mon Aug 12 1991 17:345
    ooooops....thx phyllis....
    
    quess it wasn't 
    
    rich
85.92Balin was super!AKOV06::DCARRTheySayI'mCrazy,ButIHaveAAWESOMETime...Tue Aug 13 1991 18:4818
    Hey, I was at that Flathead/Balin concert, too!  (I just found this
    conf., as I must see the Dead before I am, so I'm planning on going to
    the Beantown event on 9/21...   I hope...  BTW, does anybody have the
    ticket order # for Ticketpro?  Go on sale 8/19, right??  (Got my
    autodialer all set :-)
    
    Anyway, Flathead did an excellent, mellow job.
    
    But Balin was fantastic!  (So was the supporting band - guitarist
    played some MEAN licks...)   I asked a couple of friends, but they
    didn't know, but I was curious to his references to "writing this song
    with Jerry Garcia", and "the old days", etc...  Could somebody give me
    a brief history?
    
    Great show...  Where were you seated?  I was on the left side of the
    stage, probably obscured from view by the woman I had my arms around...
    
    Dave 
85.93TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Tue Aug 13 1991 18:566
    
    Oh no!  Another Dave!
    
    :-) :-) :-)
    
    
85.94I'm easy ... I'll change :-)AKOV06::DCARRTheySayI'mCrazy,ButIHaveAAWESOMETime...Tue Aug 13 1991 19:0512
    OK, call me by my other noter handle:
    
    "ML"  (For Boston Celtics fans...)
    
    Anyway, I found a 800 # for Ticketpro, but the note said the tix were
    to go on sale 8/24...
    
    I heard 8/19  (800-828-7080, right?)
    
    Thanks,
    
    ML
85.95YES!!!!! :^)ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryTue Aug 13 1991 19:536
    you can call him what you like but he'll STILL be a Dave!!!!
    
    welcome Dave...  there are never too many Daves around here!!
    be proud of your daveness and don't ever change it!
    
    				da ve_who_pronounces_it_dah_vay :^)
85.96I know that guyDEDSHO::CLARKthe Eddie Haskell decadeWed Aug 14 1991 12:153
Yo Dave!!  You've found another notesfile in paradise ....

- Dave
85.97There, that oughta do it! ;-) (Proper motivation...)AKOV06::DCARRTheySayI'mCrazy,ButIHaveAAWESOMETime...Wed Aug 14 1991 16:0811
    {Sob}
    
    But I _still_ cain't get any straight answers!!  :-(
    
    I promise, I won't take your ticket just because you confirm the number
    for Ticketpro...
    
    In fact, I plan on ordering 4, and may not use them all, so first one
    to get me the right number has first shot!!
    
    ML
85.98VMPIRE::CLARKthe Eddie Haskell decadeWed Aug 14 1991 16:133
That's the number in note 26.52 ...

-dc
85.99thank god (tm) for conference directories... :^)ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryWed Aug 14 1991 16:147
    bummer!  dc beat me to it!!!  oh well...  leave it to a couple of daves
    to come to the rescue of a fellow dave...  :^)
    
    fwiw, the "noo and improoooved" version of GRATEFUL has shown itself
    useful again!  :^)  string 26.* has info on ticket outlets...  
    
    					da ve
85.100Thanks, Da ve's... I'm grateful... and have .100AKOV06::DCARRTheySayI'mCrazy,ButIHaveAAWESOMETime...Wed Aug 14 1991 16:281
    
85.101That's AN awesome time, Dammit! :-)SPICE::PECKARClean Phil WantedWed Aug 14 1991 18:577
RE:<< Note 85.100 by AKOV06::DCARR "TheySayI'mCrazy,ButIHaveAAWESOMETime..." >>>
>             -< Thanks, Da ve's...  I'm grateful... and have .100 >-

	...and terrible grammer (for a dave) to boot...		:-)

Fog,_the_persnickity_nit_picker    

85.102AWECIM::RUSSOWed Aug 14 1991 19:158
    
    >        ...and terrible grammer (for a dave) to boot...         :-)
    
    >Fog,_the_persnickity_nit_picker
    
    You mean "grammar"?  :^)
    
    Hogan, _the_persnickity_nit_picker_nit_picker  :^)
85.103Allman's cover the Dead!!ANGLIN::GEBHARTMet her accidentally in St.Paul, MNWed Aug 14 1991 19:5510
    The Allman Bros.; Little Feat; and Radiators were at Trout Air outside
    of Minneapolis this last weekend.  I was unable to go because of
    previously planed family engagements but my Brother said that it was 
    great!!! nice weather and excellent sound.  this is the first time the 
    Allman's and Little Feat have shared a stage since 1971!!!!!!!  
    Allman's also did GDTRFB.  I am really bummed I missed it.
    Sorry no set lists etc...  
    
    :-)
    Scott g
85.104CLOSUS::BARNESWed Aug 14 1991 20:019
    That's pretty amazing!!! I met Greg one time...tied one on with him in
    my living room one evening till the wee hours of the morning....
    when I asked him what he wanted to hear
    on the ole CD, he looked around at all the dead stuff on the walls ,
    coffetable, etc and said "Anything but the DEAD." I smiled and put on
    some JGB....followed by the "I'm no Angel" cd. 
    
    Scott, I'm still compiling the brew data you asked for  
               rfb
85.105EZRIDR::SIEGELFrank Zappa in '92!Wed Aug 14 1991 20:1414
re:< Note 85.104 by CLOSUS::BARNES >

>    That's pretty amazing!!! I met Greg one time...tied one on with him in
>    my living room one evening till the wee hours of the morning....
>    when I asked him what he wanted to hear
>    on the ole CD, he looked around at all the dead stuff on the walls ,
>    coffetable, etc and said "Anything but the DEAD." I smiled and put on
>    some JGB....followed by the "I'm no Angel" cd. 

WHAT?!?!?!?  I expected to see a smiley on that one.  How did this transpire? 
Do tell!!

adam_who_wouldn't_mind_meeting_Greg_let_alone_in_my_living_room_especially_
since_I_now_*have*_a_living_room_although_no_couch_yet
85.106Greg's just a Good Ole BoyCLOSUS::BARNESWed Aug 14 1991 20:3336
    NO smiley to indicate this is a hoax ifn that's what ya mean...but 
    lots o smileys that evening that's fo sho!!!!
    
    I happened to meet a fellow that lived in the Springs for a few years
    that used to play with Jimmy Buffet on tour, when the "real" bass
    player didn't wanna tour. (You should here the Buffet stories he told!)
    He was also good friends with Greg, called
    him collect all the time. So when the Greg Allman Band was playin
    dives in the Springs Denver area (when No Angel first came out) I
    got "backstage" passes If you can call them that in a bar and my wife
    was "hired" as the opening bands photographer. So we got to meet most
    of the then band, and all the roadies and groupies (YOWZA!!!!)
    Hung out with them all nite... the HUGE black bouncer Greg had fell in
    love with Patty.
    After the show we invited everyone to our house for a shindig.
    Greg and his 18 (Ok, maybe 20) year old sweetie at the time stayed 
    for quite awhile, (until the commodities were about exhausted)
    the most fun was had with the blind keyboard player Johnny Neel, he was
    grate, really funny and into my homebrews...Greg had a sore throat and
    was trying to stay away from the booze (we were told to not even offer)
    and drank hot tea...kept asking Patty "Mam, could I have another cup of
    tea?" Mam????? I think Greg is older than my wife?? Anyway, about 5Am
    we tried to stuff Johnny into the back of my Scout, all of us way too
    far gone, took us 20 minutes just to get in the Scout! Laughing and
    careening out of control all the way to the Holiday Inn, just intime
    for them to catch the bus as it was leaving for the next show god knows
    where. I got all thier cards (yes, they had business cards) and all
    including Greg said to keep in touch and they'd see us next time. Well,
    we know the story...The Allman Bros re-grouped and the Greg Allman band
    is now history. They've been to Denver a few times since this story
    happened, and I had invites to go up and "hang out"...but it just never
    happened. I think it's one of those things taht's only meant to happen
    once. 
    
    BTW, the new Allman Bros album is GRATE!!!!
                                               rfb
85.107I'm having too much fun to worry 'bout speeelin'AKOV06::DCARRTheySayI'mCrazy,ButIHaveAAWESOMETime...Thu Aug 15 1991 14:5419
>            <<< Note 85.101 by SPICE::PECKAR "Clean Phil Wanted" >>>
>                   -< That's AN awesome time, Dammit!  :-) >-
>
>RE:<< Note 85.100 by AKOV06::DCARR "TheySayI'mCrazy,ButIHaveAAWESOMETime..." >>>
    
    Well, Fog, as I'm sure you know, I'm just stealing a line from Joe
    Walsh - and he said "a good time", but I'm having too much fun to have
    just "a good time", so I editorialized...
    
    Would this be better?  "Life's been AWESOME to me so far-r-r-r-r"...
    
                   boom....  
              boom 
         boom 
    boom 
    
    :-)
    
    Dave
85.108Greg Allman...yea good buddy o mine :-)ANGLIN::GEBHARTMet her accidentally in St.Paul, MNThu Aug 15 1991 15:558
    RE; rfb
    
    Nice story - Sound like you had a h*ll of a time!!!
    
    thanks for putting that brew list together for me!!
    
    :-)
    Scott g
85.109Paul Simon at Central ParkTERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Aug 16 1991 16:0737
    
    Just a few words about last night's Paul Simon show..
    
    It was fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Adam, you'll be glad to know none of us were arrested.  ;-) ;-)
    
    Actually, from where we were - it was a mellow, cooperative, basically
    grate crowd!  We were far back, though.  Set up on the right side,
    right near a whole bank of speakers..  Grate sound and plenty of room
    to dance, walk around, etc.  I'm sure it was much more zooey up front,
    but I still think there were a LOT less people than was there for
    earthday.  In fact, I'm sure there was a lot less.  On Earthday, after
    a certain time, the whole grate lawn was closed off.. not one more
    person could've fit!  Last night, if you walked all the way down in
    back, there was open space with folks playing frisbee and whatnot.
    Lots of picnicking familes with old folks and young folks... lots of
    balloons.. 
    
    Here's our vote for #1 t-shirt:
    
    On the front:
    
    			Keep your head up!
    
    and on the back:
    
    			Pee Wee will rise again!
    
     Cracked me up! :-)
    
    Anyway - a grate time was had by all!  How'd it seem on tv?  Didya see
    me? ;-)
    
    Phyllis
    
    
85.110CSLALL::HENDERSONFeeling nearly faded as my jeansFri Aug 16 1991 16:1725

RE:          <<< Note 85.109 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >>>
                        -< Paul Simon at Central Park >-

    
       
   > Anyway - a grate time was had by all!  How'd it seem on tv?  Didya see
   > me? ;-)
    
    
   
   The TV was grate..looked like everything up front was pretty cool.  Good
   show.  The radio feed was good until the "hosts" started talking.


   Yah, we saw ya'!   Right :^)





   Jim    
    

85.111I'm sure it was easy to get a cab, tooSPICE::PECKARClean Phil WantedFri Aug 16 1991 16:266
I heard the crowd on the Grate Lawn last nite was estimated at 750,000 folks.

Earthday, if I remeber correctly, attracted an estimated 1 million.

Fog_who_wunders_where_they_all_pee.
85.112TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Aug 16 1991 16:559
    
    >   -< I'm sure it was easy to get a cab, too >-
    
    :-)  We were pretty psyched we lived in walking distance!
    
    Those #s sound about right.  I guess 250,000 less people would make for
    a little free space! :-)
    
    
85.113EZRIDR::SIEGELFrank Zappa in '92!Fri Aug 16 1991 17:1011
re:< Note 85.109 by TERAPN::PHYLLIS "Wake, now discover.." >
>                        -< Paul Simon at Central Park >-
>
>    Adam, you'll be glad to know none of us were arrested.  ;-) ;-)

Good.  I was worried there for a few hours :-)

I got an audio-only tape (no HBO) of the WBCN simulcast.  I haven't even
listened to it yet.

adam
85.114LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeFri Aug 16 1991 17:187
yeah I heard the 750K number and they also said "no arrests".

I missed it - even w/ Dave Levy's reminder.....??  I didn't get home
til 8:30 and then it was too late...

oh well, I'll catch the next run on hbo 
bob
85.115No ARRESTS!! %^)CLOSUS::BARNESFri Aug 16 1991 17:3420
    I came in last nite from working on my Scout (again) and Patty says
    "Come look at Paul Simon and this percushinists (sp), they dance like
    you do!!!"  By the time I had washed the grease off my hands, that song
    (?)
    was over and "Bridge Over Troubled Water" was on...the camera panned in
    ona guy singing in the crowd that had  Steamboat Dead on his T-shirt
    witha SYF. Nice to know Colo was represented there.
    We had snowcrab legs and boogied on the couch to the rest of
    the show. I havta say this was the best on TV show I've ever seen!!!
    I hadn't put much thought into watching this before, but I was VERY
    impressed with Simon and his band. 
    
    
    rfb
    
    P.S. When Paul said goodnite and have a sweet and peaceful evening...I
    sent out a prayer to ya'll that were there too....I've never been to NY
    city and the thought of going anywhere east of the Colo border scares
    the S&*#  outa me! I hope everyone came back safe.
                        
85.116intermission? ORO10::SYSTEM...tim grady...Fri Aug 16 1991 18:3713
I was watching in on the toob and listening to it on the stereo simulcast.  I
loved the show, but I was pretty perturbed about Westwood Zero blasting the
middle out of the show.  Did this happen to everyone?  Locally, the radio played
commercials and station ID's in the middle of a hot sax jam, and then came back
to the show, calling it an 'intermission', when it really wasn't even a pause!

I think it was at the end of 'Late in the Evening', or whatever that toon's 
called.  Anyway, I was bummed out at the commercials but I thought the show was
fantastic!

tim

P.S.  Never saw an Ewi before.  Interesting looking instrument...
85.117KaukomaniaSMAUG::BLATTTue Aug 20 1991 17:1719
Jorma, David Wilcox, Jonathan Edwards at Decordova

first things first...
Jorma (and friend) put on a great show.  opened with Hesitation Blues
and ended with Snakes.  the format appeared to be much like the Great
Woods show with Jack (ah, Jack did not appear here), some acoustic,
pedal steel, slide.  but, seeing Jorma at Decordova was just such a 
treat.  i hope he is invited back next year.  the only disappointing
thing is that it looked like the folks in charge cut Jorma off early.
the show ended around 6:15.  perhaps they were running against a curfew.

David Wilcox was riveting.  it's the first time i've seen him.  the lyrics
were what got to me (matters of life and love, call me sentimental).  hope 
i can see him again sometime.  we got rained on pretty hard and it continued 
through much of his set but it appeared not to affect anyone very much 
(except the guys trying to cover the speakers).

Jonathan Edwards,  whose voice never changes, was also entertaining and 
brought back some fond memories.
85.118I'm just a cheeseburger in paradiseCSLALL::BENJAMINTue Aug 20 1991 22:4311
      This past Sat. I went to a concert at Great Woods that was soooooo
    good, I had to spread the word...I originally went because a friend of
    mine was so into it and he had gone to see the Dead because I was so
    into it so it was my turn to check out his "performer"...Let me tell
    you..It was GREAT...I'm talking about Jimmy Buffett...the perfect way 
    to describe it is "Beach-party Dead Show"...the atmosphere is the same,
    there was plenty of partying in the parking lot, and the whole crowd
    was dancin' from beginning to end...only the music is different( good
    Jamacian beat to most of it, though)...I'm definitely going again...
    
              :-)  DaveB.
85.119Wasted away again in Margaritaville...AKOV06::DCARROh, its.... YOU, Bob! :-)Wed Aug 21 1991 12:3830
    I went to see Buffett on Saturday too!!   Awesome show...   And you're
    right, the crowd was *really* into it, and into partyin' too - we
    stayed after the concert for over an hour, and we weren't the last ones
    out!  (Although we did stay until they started kicking us out! :-)
    
    I haven't been a real JB fan before, either - but if he comes to GW
    again, I'll be there!
    
    I don't even know the song, but its one of his "theme songs", I guess - 
    about shark fins - and every time the verse came to "fins to the left,
    fins to the right", the crowd spotlights would light up, and the ENTIRE
    audience on the lawn would hold their hands together above their heads,
    (looking like shark fins above the water) and lean left, then lean right...
    I'll tell ya, I can only imagine what it was like to be on stage and see 
    this huge sea of humanity rock back and forth..  (I looked around a
    couple of times - what a sight! :-)
    
    JB also had a film in the middle of the show that showed them setting
    up the stage for some concert, and partyin' on the plane (a central
    theme to the concert) - really fun!
                                       
    I went to this concert after spending the entire day moving, and I was
    DOG tired...  but, without the aid of ANY drugs :-) (and after consuming
    a good dozen beers all day :-), I stood up with the rest of the crowd on
    the lawn for the ENTIRE concert...   He just supplied energy all night!
    
    And I couldn't ask my date, a real JB fan - but can anybody tell me
    where this "Parrot heads" things came from, and what it means??
    
    ML
85.120Believe it if you need itMR4DEC::WENTZELLEstamos hermanos y hermanasWed Aug 21 1991 13:0415
RE: Parrot Head

I went Saturday too (ditto on what a terrific show it was!!) with a buddy who 
is as much a Parrot Head as the most deadicated Deadhead, and he told me the 
origin of the Parrot Head name.  He said is actually arose out of the Deadhead 
terminology!!!  Paraphrasing, the story goes that at a JB concert in the early 
80s, one of the band members looked out at the audience and everybody had 
brightly colored Hawian shirt-like clothing on, and he exclaimed "Hey, you all 
look like parrots out there!!" and JB followed it up with something like 
"yeah, almost like those tye-dyed Deadheads with all the colors - hey, you 
guys are Parrot Heads!!"

Hey, my friend  believes it so I do to!  8^)

Scott
85.121CLOSUS::BARNESWed Aug 21 1991 13:4918
    that's sorta true....about the Parrot heads thing. I've seen Buffet 3
    or 4 times, starting in Phoenix in 1976...there's was no Parrothead
    thing then.....sometime in the 80's when Buffet really caught on
    withthe southern college crowd, the Parrothead thing started. 
    
    "Fins to the left , Fins to the right, and you're the only girl in
    town"
    somethingliek that
   
    Back to 1976...in the middle of his show Buffet stopped and said "I'm
    writin a new song that I can;t get outa my head, I got the idea off a
    bathroom wall, tell me what ya think..." He played 1 verse of "We Are
    the People Our Parents Warned US About" stopped and said "whatdo ya
    Think?" a real repore with the crowd (this was a small venue)
   
    Shoulda seen Buffet with Feat when they came back!!!What A Party
    Crowd!!!
            rfb
85.122VIA::HEFFERNANJuggling FoolWed Aug 21 1991 14:119
   
>    Shoulda seen Buffet with Feat when they came back!!!What A Party
>    Crowd!!!


Sounds like a good one to skip!

john

85.123CLOSUS::BARNESWed Aug 21 1991 14:366
    I see no smileys there John....maybe I shoulda said "What a dancein
    crowd"....that's usually what I mean when I saw "party"...
     and you are wrong...it was a show NOT TO BE MISSED!! 
                    %^)  <---note
    
                    rfb
85.124back to Paul for a minuteLEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsThu Aug 22 1991 19:3214
Well one more free Paul Simon concert done -> and still never been arressted!
	:-)  (sorry Adam, I had to get in one last jib!)  :-)

for those of you who saw it on HBO, we were right near the Diamond Vision
(just to the left of it).  No, you can't see us but we did get interviewed
quite a bit during the day, probably because we were right against the fence
for the second section.  Anyway, Dave got interviewed by HBO while I was
napping in the tent (we got there at 10:30 am!).  He tried to sell them the
tent, after they woke me up on film ... I guess I wasn't part of the deal.

Good thing that footage got the big ole EDIT!  :-)

Lisa
85.125Gratefully Yours at the Bottom Line, NYCTERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Aug 23 1991 13:05103
    
    Hi! 
    
    A few of us went to see Gratefully Yours at the Bottom Line last night
    and had a GRATE time!  If this comes to your area, check it out!  I
    almost stayed and bought a ticket for the late show too, but then
    decided not to.  It seems like each show is pretty much the same play
    list (if not exactly the same, I'm not sure), but it was still so much
    fun that I considered hanging around.  
    
    The show is broken up into three parts.  Part I is acoustic Kingfish,
    and special guest David Nelson.  David played a mean mandolin for a
    good part of the set.  The current version of Kingfish is made up of
    Barry Sless on lead and some HOT pedal steel guitar, Barry Flask on
    rhythm, and Panama Fred Campbell on bass.  They played 5 songs:
    
    Don't Ease
    Deep Elem
    GDTRFB
    Fire on the Mt
    Diamond Joe
    Cumberland
    
    and then were joined by Tom Constanten for the set ender:
    
    Dire Wolf
    
    All of them jammed, with the standouts being Fire, Diamond Joe and
    Cumberland.  We were sorry to see them go after only 6 tunes.  (I never
    like the 2 show in one night format.. everybody gets cut short)
    
    Part 2 was solo Tom Constanten.  (How come nobody ever told me he looks
    like Beethovan? :-))
    
    He opened up with a nice version of Friend of the Devil which led into
    a few bars of Boris the Spider. :-)  Tom said in his version of Boris,
    Boris gets away. :-)
    
    Next was a tune called Deja Valtz, and then a rag called Graceful
    Ghost.  Tom said the rag was designed to make you want to get up and
    get a beer.  It made me want to see The Sting. ;-)
    
    Then came my favorite...Mountains of the Moon.  This was truly
    beautiful.. lots of light, sparkling sounds.  Definately the highlight
    of the set.  This led quite naturally to Dark Star which was grate
    also.  Around the middle of the tune, Tom started toodling around and
    the next thing we knew he was playing On Broadway!  Pretty funny.. I
    don't know if that's something he's been doing or if it was thrown in
    for the NY crowd, but we liked it.  It was just a little, though, and
    then he wound it back into the Star.  Merle & crew came out on stage
    and finished up the Dark STar with Tom.  I actually thought they came
    out a little too soon.  It sounded good, but I wouldn't have minded a
    little more of the song with just the keys, first.  Again, I think it
    had to do with the 2 show format and time limits.
    
    Set 3 was hot from start to finish!  On stage were Merle on keys, Pee
    Wee on drumz, Panama Fred Campbell on bass, and Steve (I can't believe
    I can't remember his last name) the guitarist from Zero on lead.  They
    were really fantastic and had the greatest time up there... it was fun
    just watching them!
    
    The first tune was that new one he broke out this tour that he co-wrote
    with Robert Hunter, called Resurrection Ride.  This song is HOT!!!! and
    I would LOVE to hear the Dead play it!  I can't wait to get hold of the
    tapes and hear it again!  Then they did a lot of incredible jamming for
    a while.. might actually have been a song that I just don't know the
    name of since a lot of it sounded familiar.  Pee Wee was unbelievable
    on those drumz all night, and Merle kept turning around to dance with
    him.. the 2 of them kept hitting "high-5's" and stuff.. it was pretty
    funny.
    
    Next came some rainforest music to smoothe things down a bit.  I love
    that music.. it just seems to create such a definitive space around
    you.  I'd love to do a synchroenergize session to it, but I guess
    that's another topic. :-)  Towards the end, Pee Wee started really
    going off on the drums and all his equipment started falling over.  It
    was pretty funny, he'd move from the drums to the bongos and knock over
    a symbol and then start on the bongos and they'd start to tip over. 
    Looked like a scene from Spinal Tap ;-)  Merle and Panama Fred kept
    coming over and trying to keep things standing and Pee Wee just kept
    wailing away.. fun stuff!
    
    Next came a good version of Harder They Come, although every time I
    hear them do this I always wish Merle would sing more than just the
    chorus.  Then, out came Papa John to join them for a hot hot version of
    Bertha.  At this point I needed much more dancing room and jumped up to
    the aisle behind our front and center table and went nuts!  I also left
    the set list on the table so thanks to Fredda for finishing up for me! 
    :-)  So, according to Fredda, next was a HOT! Summertime Blues with a
    lot of jamming headlined by Papa John out front cranking away!  At some
    point, Tom Constanten sat in too, but I'm not sure when.  They never
    really had him turned up too well and you could only really hear him
    during the solo stuff.  The show closed with a typically hot and funky
    Sugaree.
    
    All in all... a really grate grate time!!  :-)  
    
    And the good news is, there were two guys inside taping, and I hooked
    up with one early on and gave him some blanks (which Fredda just
    happened to have in the car!!!) before we left, so hopefully I'll get
    them soon!  :-)
    
    
85.126SA1794::GLADUGFri Aug 23 1991 14:121
    Gratefully Yours is at the Channel tonight. See you there.
85.127MR4DEC::WENTZELLEstamos hermanos y hermanasFri Aug 23 1991 14:316
    >Gratefully Yours is at the Channel tonight. See you there.

Hi Ger...do you or anyone else know what time and how much tix are at the 
door???  

Scott
85.128SA1794::GLADUGFri Aug 23 1991 16:074
    re: Gratefully Yours
    
    I don't know any of the particulars. There's a warmup at the CBC
    starting at 6:00, however.
85.129was he KOZMIK?LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeMon Aug 26 1991 12:397
so Lisa and a ve and anybody else....

I have this question I've been waiting for you all to answer....

	How was ZIGGY?????

bob
85.130didn't go... :^(ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryMon Aug 26 1991 13:4812
    uhhhh, actually, Lisa is probably the best person to tell this story,
    but we didn't go...  :^(
    
    evidently when Lisa first called Arrowhead she was given erroneous
    information (misrepresented facts?)...  when she got there and tried
    to straighten things out got nothing but rudeness and attitude...
    she called us and said "we aren't going to be there so don't come
    if you are planning on meeting us"...  so we didn't...  i would have
    liked to see Ziggy but i like saving money by not giving it to
    rude people...  :^/
    
    					da ve
85.131Arrowhead -> MAJOR bummer of a place! :^(LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsMon Aug 26 1991 18:0860
	Oh yea, I guess I haven't put in my Arrowhead_soapbox note yet huh?

	In all fairness to the venue however I won't get on the soapbox -
	what the deal really is isn't all that bad.  The bummer for us is
	that we were lied to on the phone and dealt with rude people both
	on the phone and at the ranch at 3am Saturday morning.  Had we known
	the real deal before getting there at 3am plans certainly would have
	been different.

	and basically what it boils down to is you must have a concert ticket
	to even get on the grounds to camp, which (whether it was your
	understanding or not) was not what I was implicitly told on the phone.
	Concert tickets range from $17-$20 and camping is $10 per person -
	so that comes to about $60 each for the weekend.  ;^/  The guy at the
	gate that morning did make it clear to us however that if we didn't
	want to see the show we could always rent horses and go riding on thier
	grounds (right!  make me pay for the stupid ticket and then tell me
	I can rent horses if I don't want to see the show).  

	At 3am it was hard to tell but the "camping" grounds looked like the
	parking lot.  I say this because there was a row of 4 or 5 cars with
	tents next to them.  ;^/  So it didn't seem like the ideal spot for
	camping which it isn't - it is a place who has really cool shows and
	some room for you to pitch tents if you don't feel like driving out
	afterwards.  The word camping shouldn't even be part of a description
	of Arrowhead ranch.

	So here we were at 3am not with what we expected at all (we didn't
	want to see two shows, er wanted to camp and relax with heads and
	friends and see one of two shows of which BT was the preferred one)
	But not only was it not what we expected the people there were being
	rude to us ... however they were sweathearts compared to the woman on
	the phone who told me, under no uncertain terms, that camping tickets
	and concert tickets were separate and you could camp without going
	to a show.  :^/  We were disappointed and we were irritated but mostly 
	we were too pissed off to support these people who were treating us like
	sh*t.  To our knowledge there were only two cars of people who were
	planning on maybe meeting us (da ve and Dave's sister) and we weren't
	positive about either of them - so we decided to bag the whole idea
	and go camping someplace else.  I am sorry for all people who planned
	on this weekend, there were a few others whom I didn't know about
	and I truly apologize for the inconvenience posed on all.  I wish it
	could have worked out better and been less of an all around hassle on
	everyone but at the time (3am in the morn) and with the circumstances
	as we knew them then, bagging Arrowhead was the answer.
	
	To just finish the story, once we decided Arrowhead was out and
	had made phone calls to let the others know of our plans we decided
	to head out of Parksville for our originally planned camping weekend,
	namely in the Woodstock area.  Once we got there and got the tents
	set up we had a nice relaxing weekend - not that driving all night
	wasn't fun (only with my honey could I still enjoy such a f*cked
	up evening!!  :-)

	Lisa

	Oh yea, and another thing - we misjudged the distance.  Arrowhead
	is easily 3 hours west of Danbury, at least - which means at least
	5 hours from Worcester........
85.132Gratefully yers....SPICE::PECKARClean Phil WantedTue Aug 27 1991 15:2731

	I saw the Gratefully Yours show at the Channel on Friday. Thanks to
	Phyllis for the grate review and to some subliminal Email from Gerryg
	for motivating me to get my butt out there.

	I really enjoyed the music! Kingfish w/ David Nelson was very enjoyable,
	but I wouldn't pay $17 to see them (like OVCH charged a while back).

	TC played a very short while, he seemed quite intimidated by the 
	Channel crowd which honored him by talking loudly over his music. When
	TC started into Dark Star, Merl and the rainforest band joined in.

	Merl was also very enjoyable. The highlight for me was Papa John, 
	though. I hadn't seen him perform live since the late 70's, and he
	performed with more energy and spunk than I remember. Even on the
	live tapes I have on which Papa John Creach plays, he only lasts at
	most 2 songs, but on Friday night he bopped up there on stage through
	three long songs. I was imapressed.

	The Channel is the same old Channel: Never been there and not seen a
	scene which bummed me out a bit and friday was no exception, but I 
	rarely let that kind of stuff prevent me from trying to enjoy the 
	music. Hmm, if only some of that California mellowness would infect its
	way into the inner cities..

	Nice to chat with Andy Burns & Co., too!

Catch this show if'n ya can.

Fog
85.133Widespread Panic - debut recordEZRIDR::SIEGELFrank Zappa in '92!Thu Aug 29 1991 20:5924
This review appears in Thursday's Calendar section of the Boston Globe, pg. 6:

Widespread Panic, "Widespread Panic", Capricorn Records

Widespread Panic hails from Athens, GA, but the band reflects the sound and
spirit of vintage Allman Brothers and Grateful Dead more than R.E.M.  So it
makes sense that this group christens the reincarnated Capricorn Records,
label to the Allman's in the 70's.  Widespread Panic mixes rock n roll, R&B, an
country into a seamless montage that draws on the college-born band's
five-years of playing together.  As a singer, John Bell is a raspy shadow of
Gregg Allman or Van Morrison, whose "Send Your Mind" opens this 72-minute disc. 
But this is an instrumentally savvy sextet, sure to stretch out at Nightstage
tonight.  Six-minute originals like "Pigeons" and "Rock" swirl into sublime
jams intertwined with bass and percussion as well as the guitars of Bell and
Michael Houser.  New keyboardist T Lavitz, formerly of the Dregs, also fuels
tracks like "Walkin'" while guests the Memphis Horns spice the funky axis of
"Weight of the World".  It's a natural flow.

                                               - Paul Robicheau

Hmm, T Lavitz!   That's quite a catch!  Has anyone ever heard this band? 
Sounds interesting!

adam
85.134Wow ! there back !!!MSHRMS::FIELDSUp The Wazoo Without A GizmoFri Aug 30 1991 12:0410
    Capricorn Records was also the label for The Marshall Tucker Band, Sea
    Level (Chuck Leavel's band, he played keyboards for the Stones last
    tour) and some other hot Southern Rock bands of the 70s, I think I'll be
    buying the CD just for that reason alone !!! Capricorn got bought out
    by Warner Bro. Record in the late 70s or early 80s.....its great to see
    them back at it in the 90s ! I'll hazard a guess that we will see a 
    rise in southern bands in the next 5 years, some rilly hot ones !!!
    
    
    Chris
85.135worth checking outBCSE::ABBOTBan stupidityFri Aug 30 1991 13:479
    Jerri had a copy of the first Widespread Panic cd a few years ago. It
    was ona local label so I wonder if the put some of it on the new disc.
    If not, a lot of great music won't be heard.
    
    I thought they were a pretty good band, sound a little reminiscent of
    early 70's Dead.
    
    Scott
    
85.136TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Fri Aug 30 1991 13:559
    
    Friends of mine caught them last weekend at Wetlands and came out
    raving.
    
    Sounds like something worth checking out. 
    
    :-)
    
    
85.137Allman Bros at Nashua was a jammin good time\MR4DEC::WENTZELLEstamos hermanos y hermanas [sic]Mon Sep 09 1991 16:1627
RE: The Allman Bros  (from topic 80)

Saw them last week in Nashua, I thought it was an awesome show!!!  I REALLY 
enjoyed the instrumental jams, they had a couple from their new album (I hadn't 
heard any of the new material before hand) and they were grate!  And of course 
Jessica and In Memory of Elzibeth Reed really jammed.  Had me dancing and hand 
clapping for most of the show.  The big bonus for me though was hearing them 
play Revival, which I wasn't expecting because a friend who has seen them a 
half dozen times had never seen them perform that one.  The Nashua show had a 
real bluesy feel to it, did they do a lot of blues at GW??

Some of the others they played (not in order):

Blue Sky
Hoochie-Coochie Man
Melissa (very very nice acoustic version)
GDTRFB(!)
Whipping Post (nice loooooong jamming in the middle, including a percussion 
	       solos)

Lots more but since I've Allman Bros tapes playing in my car almost constantly 
since, I can't remember what they played and what I've just heard on tape! 8^)


I guess it's all in what you expect and what floats your boat!

Scott
85.138Widespread PanicMR4DEC::WENTZELLEstamos hermanos y hermanas [sic]Mon Sep 09 1991 16:2211
Oh yeah, and the real reason I'm in this topic:

RE:           <<< Note 85.133 by EZRIDR::SIEGEL "Frank Zappa in '92!" >>>

Bought the Widespread Panic CD and there are some really good tunes on 
it! (Lechmere in Worcester had it on sale last week!)  Definately gets 
better each time I listen and the review that Adam posted seem to be pretty
much on the mark IMO.  It's good to hear a new band that is putting out 
some fresh music that I actually like!!!

Scott
85.139good showEZRIDR::SIEGELFrank Zappa in '92!Mon Sep 09 1991 16:3933
I was at the show, had one beer in the parking lot, and had a GREAT time!  This
was the best of the 3 ABB shows I've seen.  I especially liked Revival, since I
don't think I've ever heard them do it live.  They opened with Hot 'Lanta,
which was cool.  I expected the Elizabeth Reed and it did not let me down.  The
little drum part before the end of the song was extended into a 3-man "drums"
with the rest of the band off-stage, then Butch Trucks did a solo.  There was
much jamming inside songs, especially during Jessica.  The jamming was welcomed
by me and, frankly, I don't think they played like that in the previous 2 shows
I've seen.  The new songs were also played excellently.

They played from 8:20 to about 10:40, then did a 3-song encore.   So we got our
money's worth.  The sound was great where I was except the bass was kind of
unintelligible.  Unfortunately, the show was pushed back to 7:00 instead of
7:30, and after arriving around 7:45 I found out that Blues Traveler had just
ended :-(   The consolation was that the ABB had planned to play a long show.

I had a slightly obstructed view, but I don't think they had a 2nd keyboard
player, which was good since it forced Gregg to carry the keyboards (when I
first saw them 2 years ago it was like he was comatose, and the other guy
wailed).

The screen behind the stage had the traditional "trip gels" with superimposed
graphics.  Pretty neat, but unfortunately one corner was obstructed by
speakers.

Oh yeah, almost forgot.  They did Goin Down the Road, but in an old blues
style.  Quite different from the Dead's version.  And they did one or two
straight blues tunes, including a Robert Johnson tune (Come Into my Kitchen). 
This is the cover tune on their new album, I think.

I love instrumentals, so I was into the "instrumedley"!!

adam
85.140CSLALL::HENDERSONHand me my old guitar...Mon Sep 09 1991 17:2716
RE:           <<< Note 85.139 by EZRIDR::SIEGEL "Frank Zappa in '92!" >>>
                                 -< good show >-


>straight blues tunes, including a Robert Johnson tune (Come Into my Kitchen). 
>This is the cover tune on their new album, I think.



 That's it.  If I ever get my copy back from somebody to whom I loaned it
 I could hear it again.. :^)




Jim
85.141I can hear my phone ringing already !:')MSHRMS::FIELDSok 1 2 3 take a step backMon Sep 09 1991 17:425
    Jim, I'd hazard a guess on who but I'm still waiting too !!!
    :')))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))x10000000000
    
    
    Chris_whos_rilly_just_jokin'_rilly_I_am
85.142ML Kulhawik :-)AKOV06::DCARRMy house is SOLD!! Rounds on me! :-)Tue Sep 10 1991 15:3412
    OK, OK, I give!!   ABB in Grate Woods WAS great jammin'!   They played
    a good long time, and I had fun!
    
    (I just wish they played Ramblin', I guess...)
    
    (And I just wish that they would've interspersed some hand-clappin'
    tunes I *knew* in between the three awesome jams...)
    
    Just think of me as a local critic, the kind that never likes
    anything...
    
    ML
85.143let 'em pressure their own damn peers! :^)ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryTue Sep 10 1991 17:1813
    ML Kulhawik!!!!!  HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!  :^)
    
    but come on now Dave...  don't give in dude!!  if it didn't work for
    you it didn't work for you...  no big deal...  god knows i've been to
    some really well played shows in the past that just didn't click with
    me for one reason or another...  you don't REALLY want to be a Kulhawik
    do you?  :^)  (no offence to Joyce if she's out there somewhere! :^)
    
    fwiw i can relate to your comments about no pre-show indulging matter
    as well...  some days you're just looking for that "little something extra"
    ya know?  
    
    					da ve
85.144SHOCK RA LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeThu Sep 19 1991 16:0628
Well remember I asked about SHOCK RA?  Honest, I did ask about them.
Nobody answered so I went and found out for myself - although I'm not
really sure if I found anything out.....??

I called the Whitehorse and asked about them and they told me they
were a reggae band....so all set that's what we want.

So down to the Whitehorse - and walk in the front door.  What a collection
of strange folks drinking and talking.  I notice some Phishheads with 
microphones and taping equipment scattered about.....a few people dressed
in trendy black with funky hair...a few deadheads...NO locals from Milford.

So now comes the music - the soundcheck was a play on "slippin' into darkness"
a la WAR (er I think WAR)...they did "laughin' at the soundcheck" instead :)
they leave the stage come back and they play the weirdest combo of funk/ska
and r&b that I've ever heard.  I think I heard a reggae tune that night 
(johnny b. goode) and a dead tune sprinkled here and there BUT I couldn't/still 
can't make up my mind as to whether I liked this band or not.  Has that ever
happened to you?  Can't make yer mind up or not if this is something you like
or dislike?  Usually I can tell.

I'll have to check em out again - the jury's still out on this band.

Anybody ever seen these guys?   If so, what did you think?

Ever see anybody slam dance to the Dead?  

bob
85.145CLOSUS::BARNESThu Sep 19 1991 16:1813
    saw Blues Travler Sat at Red rocks....first Opening band was better I
    thought... Acoustic Junction from Boulder...dead type music easy to
    dance to....then Wide Spread Panic from Athens GA. ...LOUD!!!
    Blues Travler played for 3 hours without a break. ...LOUD!!! Patty and
    I had to go all the way to the back and top of the rocks
    Never saw so many drunk college kids in my life! there were, I think,
    about 13 of us "oldsters" there (we all went in the same van %^) )
    
    Blues Travler were good, but the music is repetitious  after 3 hours. 
    They DO dig colo though! 
                             rfb                               
                 
    Oh to see the dead at the Rocks again!!!!!! (wishful thinking!)
85.146Opinion on WP?MR4DEC::WENTZELLEstamos hermanos y hermanas [sic]Thu Sep 19 1991 16:404
Hey rfb, what did ya think of Widespread Panic?  I bought their latest cd a few 
weeks ago and kind of dig it.  Were they LOUD but good, or just LOUD 8^)?

Scott
85.147CLOSUS::BARNESThu Sep 19 1991 17:486
    Wide Spread reminded me of the old Outlaws....the music built on the
    same chords, up to a crescendo that broke back into the same chord
    progressions..(I am NOT a muscian)... they were OK in my opinion. 
    
                                                                      rfb
    
85.148uh-huh!SCAM::GRADYtim gradyThu Sep 19 1991 20:289
    I heard a bootleg of Widespread Panic a while ago, but I hadn't drawn
    the analogy to the Outlaws...I think I'll go back and dig up that
    bootleg again.  The Outlaws originated from here in Tampa, a place not
    well known for major cultural eminations :-)...
    
    tim
    
    P.S. although, I hear Ray Charles got his start here too...
    
85.149SA1794::GLADUGFri Sep 20 1991 10:534
    Randy,
    
    Howdja like Acoustic Junction? I met them at the Iron Horse in Noho when 
    they opened for Jorma last May. Better'n Blues Traveler IMHO.
85.150SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Fri Sep 20 1991 16:245
Speaking of Acoustic Junction, did you sign me up on their mailing list
when you went to see them, Ger??  I really want to check them out.

peace,
t!ng
85.151SA1794::GLADUGFri Sep 20 1991 16:487
re:          <<< Note 85.150 by SKYLRK::TING "Give Peace a Chance!!!" >>>

>Speaking of Acoustic Junction, did you sign me up on their mailing list
>when you went to see them, Ger??  I really want to check them out.

    No, sorry. I couldn't sign you up, Ting, because I didn't go seem
    them when they came back to Noho.
85.152CLOSUS::BARNESTue Sep 24 1991 12:448
    Acoustic Junction was much better than Travler IMO. (Don't tell the
    people that gave us tixs and provided the ride whilst I was
    inebriated..hic!) Their tunes me me dance more than WSP or BT...had
    that dead edge i guess you'd call  it. 
    
    Patty and I did get a chuckle outa the kids yellin "WIDE SPREAD!!"
    took us awhile....
                      rfb
85.153Carlos!CAMONE::HURLBURTWed Oct 02 1991 11:5112
Saw Carlos last night at the Paramount Theatre in Springfield, MA.  He played
a *blistering* 2 hr 40 min set.  IMO this guy is the best rock guitar player
alive!  He does it all and with so much emotion.  His band was smokin also.  A
guy named Chester Thompson was playing keyboards and he was unbelievable.  I
saw somebody get busted taping, boy I'd love to get a tape!  If anyone hears
of one, *please* let me know (Ger?).  

I don't recall seeing any tour dates for Carlos in here and I think last night
was his first show on the east coast.  If anyone knows of any other dates,
please enter them or send me mail.  

Chuck
85.154FRAGLE::IDEnow it can be toldWed Oct 02 1991 12:028
    re .-1
    
    Do you have any other dates for the Paramount?  It's a great theatre,
    but I always find out about shows there after the fact.  I've only been
    there once and saw Taj Mahal, Hot Tuna, and the Band -- pretty good
    line-up!
    
    Jamie
85.155NYEM1::TURNOFGreetings from the Big AppleWed Oct 02 1991 12:159
    Carlos is playing this Friday at the "new" Paramount in New York City. 
    This place used to be known as the Felt Forum, however, with the
    reconstruction of Madison Sq Garden, we have a new theatre.  He is also
    playing Saturday night at the Academy in NYC.
    
    Glad to hear that the show was sooo hot since I'm going to the
    Paramount on Friday night!
    
    Fredda
85.156Paramount line-upCAMONE::HURLBURTWed Oct 02 1991 12:2929
re Jamie

	Jean Luc Ponty	- October 4
	Anne Murray	- October 5
	Dreamgirls	- October 11,12,13
	.38 Special	- October 27
	Patti LaBelle	- October 29
	Violent Femmes	- November 1
	George Carlin	- November 2
	Blues Traveler	- November 9
	Vince Gill	- November 10
	Kenny Loggins	- November 23
	Moody Blues	- December 5

That's it for now, I'll try to keep it updated and even put in in the right
note ;^)  If there's any interest I could list the shows at the New Haven
Palace also (there's some repeats).

Also, both the Paramount and the Palace have something called the "Inner Circle
Concert Club" that allows you to receive advance notice on all shows before
they go on sale to the general public.  You also receive preferential, select
seating and show discounts.  The cost is $25 per family.

Tickets are available at the Paramount Box Office (413) 734-5874; Stawberries;
the Northampton Ticket Office (413) 586-8686 or 1-800-843-8425; Ticketpro
phone charge 1-800-828-7080.  It doesn't metion it but I would imagine that
Ticketpro outlets may have them also.

Chuck
85.157multi-talentEZRIDR::SIEGELFrank Zappa in '92!Wed Oct 02 1991 15:066
re: Chester Thompson on keys

Isn't he the guy who did the drumming for Genesis when Phil was in Rock
Star(tm) mode?

adam
85.158CAMONE::HURLBURTWed Oct 02 1991 15:123
re Adam

Same name, different guy.
85.159Merl Saunders & The Rainforest Band 10/26TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Mon Oct 28 1991 15:4133
    
    I caught a hot Merl Saunders & the Rainforest Band show Saturday night
    at Wetlands.  We left at 3:30 (really 4:30) and they were still on
    stage!  I couldn't even stand up anymore. ;-)
    
    Merl started by talking about Bill for awhile as everyone was pretty
    bummed.  He said we should all get ready to give him a rockin' send off
    and opened up with Fever, which he said was one of Bill's all time
    favorite songs.
    
    Here's the list through when we left:
    
    Set I
    
    Fever
    Finders Keepers
    Problems Got Problems
    Resurrection Rag
    Harder They Come
    Feel Like Dynamite
    Sugaree
    
    Set II
    
    High Heeled Sneakers
    Keep Your Hat On
    Blues from the Rainforest
    Funky System
    Blue Ocean Dance
    Bertha
    ...
    
    
85.160ESASE1::JCFERGUSONGuinness is good for you.Tue Oct 29 1991 06:122
Merl is great!  Especially the Blues From The Rainforest song.  I saw Merl
and company in CT this past spring ... 
85.161PLANET DRUM:-):-):-):-):-) ain't nothin like it...AIMHI::KELLERThe BoR, Void Where Prohibited by lawMon Dec 02 1991 11:0113
All I can say is...


Yiiiiiiiiippeeeeeeeee, yehaw, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeba, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeba 
yeeeeeeha.

What a wonderful show there was last night at Berkely performance center. 2 
solid hours of drums, drums and more drums. It is absolutely amazing the 
sounds you can make with a piece of wood or a pot or a skin.

I'm feeling much better now:-)

Geoff
85.162very cool show! :^)ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryMon Dec 02 1991 12:438
    i beg to agree!!!  :^)
    
    i hadn't been planning on going (as usualy, everything came together at
    the last minute!) but i'm really glad i did!
    
    man, my hands were hurting just watching some of these guys!  
    
    				da ve
85.164TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Mon Dec 02 1991 13:1213
    
    The show at Carnegie Hall was fantastic also!  All the musicians were
    simply incredible.  My favorite was the guy from India who's name
    begins with V who played the clay pot.. amazing!!  They were all
    having such a great time up there too.. it made them really fun to
    watch.  
    
    The most amazing thing, though was when Mickey played the
    flowers!!!!!!!  We all lost it! :-)  
    
    Phyllis
    
    
85.165a stab at who they wereLANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeMon Dec 02 1991 13:2316
let's see - I'll try to name them (I have no program):

upper left on whistle/tambo/bird-noises/drum kit - Airto Moriera
female singer - Flora Purim (Airto's wife...)
upper right on talking drums - Olatunji
small man on clay pot(and amplified stage) - Vikku (sp)
very front and left - Zakir Hussein (apoligies on sp)
middle left was Gioviani last_name_forgotten all kinds of drums.
So that leaves one man dressed in green and yellow on talking drums.
plus Mickey hart of course.

good time!  glad I went even if it was past my bedtime!
:)
bob


85.167SA1794::GLADUGMon Dec 02 1991 13:2647
re: <<< Note 85.163 by NOPROB::JOLLIMORE "Dancing Madly Backwards" >>>
    
>btw, where's the set list??? ;-)
    
    Right here. :-) 
    
    Copied from the soundboard. Courtesy of Eric Simon...
    
    
    
    
kong solo dies away into soft
wood ... builds up into

udu chant fade into

baba rhythm ... everyone join in
baba leads into

island groove
     airto and flora sing with
baba end

zakir - vikku duet

light over shadow >>>

dance of the hunter's fire
     shekeree (sikiru, gio, zakir)

airto berimbau >>>
hunt space whistles

temple caves

hunt >>> (sikiru solo, gio/zakir holds rhythe [sic]
tamborine
bones
giovanni conga - sing

chimes >>> waves come up
mysterious island

evening samba - end with bells
     -- walk off playing bells

Encore:  jewe
85.168and I get to thank Mickey on the 9th :^) CSLALL::ABURNSTAMALPAIS CHIEFSMon Dec 02 1991 15:469
    I too had a wonderful time :^) :^) :^) I especially liked Mickey
    hitting those incredible lows that I felt vibrate my soul :^)
    
    And the dueling drumz between the little round guy on the 'jug'
    and that other drummer was amazing :^)
    
    So glad they got it together and would go agin in a sec :^) :^) 
    
    peace,Andy
85.169VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenMon Dec 02 1991 18:141
    yes indeed... time to start drumming again...
85.170Planet DrumRUBY::PAY$ZANELLAMon Dec 02 1991 18:5211
    Hi all, 
    
    I was wondering if anyone went to Planet Drum at the Berklee
    Performance Center 12/1/91?  It featured Mickey Hart, along with
    some others...My friend attended, and thought it was WONDERFUL!!!!
    
    I thought Mickey used to play in "The New Riders of the Purple Sage", 
    as a drummer, can anyone verify this???
    
    Thanks,
    Candi 
85.171EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedMon Dec 02 1991 20:2918
re:< Note 85.170 by RUBY::PAY$ZANELLA >
>                                -< Planet Drum >-
>
>    I thought Mickey used to play in "The New Riders of the Purple Sage", 
>    as a drummer, can anyone verify this???

Yes, Mickey did play drums on at least one record with NRPS.  I happen to have
an NRPS record from the '71 timeframe that has Jerry and Mickey (and possibly
Phil) playing with NRPS.  The particular album I have has a picture of the
whole band on the back, and you can easily see Jerry and Mickey.  They are
hanging out on the top floor of a house, around the stairway.  Funny I should
remember these details of the album cover, since I haven't taken the record out
yet!

You're the first person I've ever seen in this company with a $ in their
username.  It looks like you work in payroll, so that only makes sense!

adam
85.173VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenTue Dec 03 1991 12:0414
    I'm working on .. this ....  I guess "transformation" is as good a word
    as any :-) ....  seems like it's time to get serious ... well... as 
    serious as someone like me gets anyway..   
    
    I want to do some serious shamain type stuff and soon.. after the
    holidays I think... so I'll need to sort of 'take 40 days in the
    desert' type of thing to get my act together so I'll be ready ... 
    
    Maybe then "inspiration" will "move me brightly"... 
    
    Some patterns need a bit of adjusting...  
    					.... and who knows... prosperity
    could be lurking right around the corner... it's just a matter of
    finding the right corner.. thats all.. :-)  (keep your fingers crossed)
85.174RUBY::PAY$FRETTSif u want to heal u have to *feel*Tue Dec 03 1991 15:5511
    
    I went to Planet Drum on Sunday also and thought it was a terrific
    show.  My favorites were Mickey playing the big square 'drum'
    at the back of the stage, the Indian man playing the clay pot, the
    duet, and Mickey playing the wooden 'xylophone'.  
    
    I couldn't sit still!
    
    Mary, Jay.....I'm ready to do a little drumming again too!!!!!
    
    Carole
85.175the flowers... ???ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryTue Dec 03 1991 16:134
    does anyone have any more info on "the flowers" that Mickey used during
    the show???  neat stuff!!!  curious to know more about them though...
    
    					da ve
85.177TERAPN::PHYLLISWake, now discover..Tue Dec 03 1991 16:485
    
    He did indeed play the flowers! (at least in NY).  One of the roadies
    on stage after the show told us there was a midi attached.  
    
    
85.178the flowersLEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsTue Dec 03 1991 17:287

The roadie told us the name of the flowers but I forget .. I think maybe something wiith
poison in the name.  He also said they are metallic of sorts.

I guess I lost a few brain cells between Wednesday and now.  ;^/    

85.179LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeTue Dec 03 1991 17:335
Yeah I saw him playing the flowers too.  Pretty nifty!  I kept looking
and saying - what's he doing?  Actually from my view it looked more like
a viney thing like large english ivy :)

bob
85.180midi flowersZENDIA::LARUGoin' to GracelandTue Dec 03 1991 18:087
    I think it was a drum pad hooked up with some synth sounds.
    
    For those who went 12/1,  he played it during the second show.
    I didn't see him play it the first.  But then, he didn't play 
    the big wooden vibes (is that a kora?) during the second show.
    
    /bruce
85.181he can be such a charmer...VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenWed Dec 04 1991 14:371
    He sure looked happy and excited though.. didn't he? :-)
85.182VERGA::STANLEYwhat a long strange trip it's beenWed Dec 04 1991 15:144
    .174
    
    Sounds good, Carole... I have to get my metaphysical muscles in shape
    first... sometime after the holidays, ok?
85.183SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Wed Dec 04 1991 18:108
I have a tape of the early Plane Drum show.  I have a tape of the
second show too, but it didn't come out as good (my mikes overloaded).
If there's enough interest, I'll start a tree.  My tape is a DAT
master patched into another DAT that was recording with Neumann KMi86's
from 14th row center.  If there's enought interest, I'll start a tree.

peace,
t!ng
85.184SA1794::GLADUGWed Dec 04 1991 18:298
re:          <<< Note 85.183 by SKYLRK::TING "Give Peace a Chance!!!" >>>

>master patched into another DAT that was recording with Neumann KMi86's
>from 14th row center.  If there's enought interest, I'll start a tree.
    
    Boy, those KMI86's sure do get around. :-) They'll be at NYE as well.
    
    - Gerry
85.185:^)ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryWed Dec 04 1991 18:295
    ooooh, i think i might be able to dig up a couple of blanks for 
    this project! :^)  mostly interested int he second show (even though
    it's not as good, but i was there :^)...
    
    					da ve
85.186PIPE::SPINETom SpineWed Dec 04 1991 18:435
    re: possible t!ng tape tree of Planet Drum
    
    YES YES YES!!!! :-)
    
    tms
85.187yes planet drum tree...ZENDIA::LARUGoin' to GracelandWed Dec 04 1991 18:443
    sign me up!!!
    
    /bruce
85.188LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsWed Dec 04 1991 18:5510

Add another interested to the list!!!

Hey T!ng, glad to see you made it back OK ... how was the flight?

		Lisa_who_was_thinking_about_you_at_7am_yesterday_while_
		looking_at_all_the_Weather_outside_her_window


85.189Another interested partyESGWST::MIRASSOUSo... what DOES it all mean?Wed Dec 04 1991 19:3613
    slobber... drool...
    
    Err... I mean... Here's another to add to the interested. Beth would
    make things, um, very uncomfortable for me if she found out these
    were available and I didn't get a copy.
    
    Thanks T!ng, & welcome back!
    
    John_who_is_envious_because_T!ng_got_a_yellow_slip_yesterday_but_
    he_hasn't_heard_from_GDTS_yet
    
    Who's idea was it to use underscores instead of hyphens in these
    signatures, anyway?  I keep forgetting to use the shift key!
85.190RANGER::NOURSEWed Dec 04 1991 19:564
    Me too!
    
    BTW, if you want tapes in trade that I have on reels, let me know soon,
    so I have time to copy them onto cassettes.
85.191SA1794::GLADUGWed Dec 04 1991 20:126
re:     <<< Note 85.189 by ESGWST::MIRASSOU "So... what DOES it all mean?" >>>
       
   >Who's idea was it to use underscores instead of hyphens in these
   >signatures, anyway?  I keep forgetting to use the shift key!

    cHARlotte's.
85.192SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Wed Dec 04 1991 21:1523
re:  <<< Note 85.188 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "child of countless dreams" >>>

>Hey T!ng, glad to see you made it back OK ... how was the flight?

Thanks Lisa.  My flight was delayed 2 hours, but not because of the
weather in Logan, but because the Minneapolis Airport was closed until
9 so they could shovel the runways.  I was worried that my rental car
was going to slide around in the snow, but I guess the rental car
company was prepared.  They even had a scraper in the glove compartment.
Randy made me do all the scraping because he had on the Birkenstocks
and I had reeboks 8-/.  Boy, was I glad to see sunny San Francisco!!
8-)

re: da ve

If you really want the copy of the late show, you can, but like I said,
the mikes I had (*not* the Neumanns) overloaded on the loud parts of the
show so there's a lot of static on those parts.  Believe me, you *don't*
want a copy of it.  The 2 shows were pretty similar.  The tape of the
early show sounds like it's in your living room.

peace,
t!ng
85.193NECSC::LEVYCome on without...Come on withinWed Dec 04 1991 22:436
    T!ng - 
    
    Sign me up for a copy of the early show.
    
    	~dave
    
85.194me too, me too ... ;^)BOOKS::BAILEYBLet my inspiration flow ...Thu Dec 05 1991 08:481
    
85.197RUBY::PAY$FRETTSif u want to heal u have to *feel*Thu Dec 05 1991 10:427
    
    
    Me too!  Let me know what the particulars are as I've never been in
    a tree before!!! ;^)
    
    Carole
    
85.198LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsThu Dec 05 1991 11:117
85.199treet ;-)FURTHR::HANNANBeyond description...Thu Dec 05 1991 11:195
85.200SPICE::PECKARShadow skiing the apocalypseThu Dec 05 1991 13:044
	I would like to participate.

fog
85.2011st show please & thanx :^)CSLALL::ABURNSTAMALPAIS CHIEFSThu Dec 05 1991 14:099
    Nice to see you made it back OK and 'twas nice finally getting to 
    meet you and Randy even if it was just for a short bit as I had
    to get up early for work the next day :^)
    
    Oh and thanx for the NTTH button and stickers :^) I had recently 
    misplaced the ones I had and was looking for them to bring to the
    show.
    
    peace,Andy
85.202RANGER::NOURSEThu Dec 05 1991 15:3011
    I was thinking about how nice California would be while I was chipping
    away at the ice around the door, in the driveway, on my car, around the
    mailbox...
    
    I was thinking about how nice Califoria would be while trying to get
    my car to do something other than spin its wheels on the sheet of ice
    where my driveway joins the road...
    
    I was thinking about how nice California would be while sitting in my
    living room with my coat on waiting for the repairman to fix my
    oil burner... 
85.203VMPIRE::CLARKsleep in the starsThu Dec 05 1991 16:115
In memory of Jim Henderson ....

THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN NEW ENGLAND?!?

	--> 8^) <--
85.204LJOHUB::RILEYYou're twisting my air!Thu Dec 05 1991 17:287
    
    
    Tree wants in on the Tree!  BIG TIME...
    
    And thanks for offering T!ngiii <- three upside down exclamation marks
    
    Treemon
85.205I'm looking out for ya Jim....LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsFri Dec 06 1991 10:218
RE:            <<< Note 85.203 by VMPIRE::CLARK "sleep in the stars" >>>

> In memory of Jim Henderson ....

	HEY!  Whaddaya mean in memory of???  He may be over 60, er, 50, I mean
	*40* ... but he isn't dead yet!  Gees!

:-)
85.206Grate acoustic tour...SCAM::GRADYtim gradyThu Dec 12 1991 16:1725
    Getting back to the subject of this topic...;-)
    
    Last Friday I went to a perfectly amazing acoustic/folk show here in
    Tampa.  John Gorka, Christine Lavin, Patty Larkin and Chris Eberhart. 
    Aside from the fact that the tickets were only $12.50, which is pretty
    amazing in itself, this was an EXTREMELY talented and entertaining
    ensemble concert.  All four musicians played on stage together,
    initially doing solo pieces and then backing each other up on vocals
    and guitars.
    
    I wasn't able to enter this sooner, due to my pending move north
    keeping me busy all week.  This group is touring for another month or
    two, including D.C., Denver/Colo Spngs area, and the Bottom Line/NYC.
    I STRONGLY suggest you go see them if they come to your area.  
    
    The response here was so strong from the sold-out audience that they
    came back for three encores and played until just before midnight.  The
    show was sponsored by the local community radio station, and I'm
    looking into trading tapes for a copy of a soundboard that I know is
    out there somewhere. ;-)
    
    Go see them if you can.
    
    tim
    
85.207Too Late to enter the tape tree????? Too late to enter the tape tree???AKORNY::CUTLERIn the Strangest of Places...Thu Dec 12 1991 20:085
T!ng,

If its not toooooooo late, I'd like to be a part of the tape tree (branch or leaf)

Jack
85.208SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Fri Dec 13 1991 14:535
Jack, fill out the form in 222 and reply there.  Be sure to indicate which 
show(s) you want.

peace,
t!ng
85.209ZENDIA::FERGUSONGuinness gives you strengthFri Dec 13 1991 17:4411
re          <<< Note 85.208 by SKYLRK::TING "Give Peace a Chance!!!" >>>

>Jack, fill out the form in 222 and reply there.  Be sure to indicate which 
>show(s) you want.

Ting, Jack doesn't get a chance to read grateful too often so you might wanna
drop him a line about this (as a favor).


jc

85.210SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Fri Dec 13 1991 19:466
I sent him e-mail.  I hope he at least logs in 8-/.  I'll just assume
he wants only the early show for now, since I'm trying to set up the 
tree over the weekend.

peace,
t!ng
85.211How does it feel...MR4DEC::WENTZELLExpert Only &lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;Fri Feb 07 1992 11:2515
Did anyone else catch Dylan on David Letterman's 10th Anniversary special last 
night?   He mumbled his way through "Like a Rolling Stone", and I do mean 
mumbled.  But, I liked to overall performance with what, about 15-20? musicians 
playing/singing with him.  Including Edgar Winter on sax; Doc Severinson (sp?) 
on trumpet; a horn group whose name I can't recall (I don't think it was Tower 
of Power); Stevie Vie (sp?) on guitar; Rosanne Cash, Michelle Shocked, and 
several others on back-up vocals; a guest drummer; a woman playing keys who I 
didn't recognize; the regular Late Night band; and of course Paul Schafer 
bouncing around playing the Hammond B-3 organ.  

Everyone looked to be having a blast and somehwat in awe of Dylan when he came 
out, who himself sort of looked like he would have rather been somewhere else, 
but then again he always looks like that ;^)

Scott
85.212just a few I knew from sight !SLOHAN::FIELDSyoudon'tlie,youdon'tlie,youdon'tlieFri Feb 07 1992 13:254
    Carol King was on keys, drums was Jim Kentler (SP? Wilbury's drummer)
    Krisy Hines (SP? Pretenders) guitar....
    
    Chris
85.213MR4DEC::WENTZELLExpert Only &lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;Fri Feb 07 1992 13:3317
    >Carol King was on keys, drums was Jim Kentler (SP? Wilbury's drummer)
    >Krisy Hines (SP? Pretenders) guitar....
    
I remember Dave said Carol King was there, I didn't realize she was the keys 
player.  Forgot about Kris Hines (and probobly a few others).

They also ran clips of some of the musical guests they've had on.  Sad to see 
how many have passed away (Miles, Sammy D Jr, SRV, and even Liberace just to 
name a few).  Bobby and Jerry doing Masterpiece got a nice loud applause 8^)

And how about the number 1 reason why Letterman's been on ten years?

	"I'm Captain Dave and America is my ship of love"

;^)

Scott
85.214mmmnnhmhmhmh mnmhnmgfnm Stone.CSLALL::BRIDGESthrice the brinded cat hath mewed.Fri Feb 07 1992 13:5818
   

    Yea Bob really seem out of it.  He was swaying quite a bit ( and I
   don't mean to the music 8-). 

    I was suprised that they would show him in that condition, that is
if he was in an alternative condition.


  He sure seem inebriated to me.

  Shawn



    BTW was it me or was the crowd boo-ing during Sinead O'conners clip?


85.215SLOHAN::FIELDSyoudon'tlie,youdon'tlie,youdon'tlieFri Feb 07 1992 13:591
    they booooooooooooooooed big time ...
85.216CLOSUS::BARNESFri Feb 07 1992 14:024
    the crowd did boo o'conner...Dylan was out of it, although it seemed he
    twisted his lip at the appropriate times %^)..I laughed alot.
    Carol King was HOT on the baby grand! Showed more of her than Dylan
     during "Rolling Stone"
85.217TERAPN::PHYLLISthrough a dream night windFri Feb 07 1992 14:097
    
    I didn't get home 'til about 10 and missed the top 10 list.  Anyone
    remember any others?
    
    I loved the dog that attacked the vacuum.  :-)
    
    
85.218TLE::ABBOTJ. R. &quot;Bob&quot; Dobbs in 92Fri Feb 07 1992 14:2410
    I would have rather seen Nanci Griffith, Michelle Shocked and Carole
    King (and some of the other fine ladies) do a number together, with a
    hot solo by Edgar Winter.  Sometimes those superstar bands can be
    frustrating because they've got so much incredible talent but your
    favorites never get a chance to shine.
    
    I thought Chrissie Hynde's fringe pants were way cool. ;-)
    
    Scott
    
85.219Brain is filled with other stuff right now (not that ;^)MR4DEC::WENTZELLExpert Only &lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;Fri Feb 07 1992 14:5213
    >I didn't get home 'til about 10 and missed the top 10 list.  Anyone
    >remember any others?
    

Hmmm, let's see...a couple I remember...

  We actually ran out of material after 7 years...then along came Quayle    

  
Damn, that's the only one I remember.  I try to type it in from home if I get 
a chance (i have it on tape) if no one beats me to it.

Scott
85.220SSGV02::STROBELNot this record, not this record.....Fri Feb 07 1992 16:219
I thought they should have let Mavis Staples cover the tune and just have Dylan 
sway back and forth.

Top 10 - not exact quotes
	People think he's just filling in for Ted Koppel
	There's time left on the hair piece rental
	Show cheap to do w/ illegal alien bandleader

I taped it for my wife so if we watch it this weekend, I'll jot them down
85.221LJOHUB::RILEYWithout a slip of the toungue...Fri Feb 07 1992 16:2510
    
    
    Yeah, just wished they didn't have to go to the commercials during the
    show....  we missed all the MUSIC!  (cept for Dylan of course)
    
    Did you catch the ending of that HOT Watchtower???  Wish I could've
    heard that one all the way through!
    
    Treemon_who's_favorite_parts_included_the_Pit_bull_frisbee_trick_and
    the_Paul&Dave_ice_skating_in_the_Rockefeller_Plaza_rink!
85.222good showEZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedFri Feb 07 1992 16:3821
That was a great 10-th anniversary show!  I was cracking up most of the time. 

The clip with Andy Kaufman was weird.  Do you think it was staged, as has been
speculated before with his SNL fiasco?

At least Mr. Zimmerman did a better job (IMO) than last year's Grammies.  Last
night, he sang the lyrics with a different rhythm than on the record (like
ending a line way before the music was finished for that line), which normally
doesn't bother me (in fact I find it interesting) but at times it sounded
weird.  But that's Bob for ya.  Carole (don't forget the 'e') King was playing
a fine piano, lookin' real good too I might add. :-)

The shepherd dogs were a blast.  I loved the way they lined up and moved around
to force the sheep to go in the proper direction.  Almost like they were robots
running a program.  And then the last sheep tried to run away but they 'caught'
him.

The dog that shot baskets was cool, but I though he was going to use his paws. 
THAT would have been impressive.

adam
85.223TERAPN::PHYLLISthrough a dream night windFri Feb 07 1992 16:474
    
    Thanks!
    
    
85.224FURTHR::HANNANBeyond description...Fri Feb 07 1992 17:0912
	The music for commercial breaks *was* great!   Watchtower was
	done in the Hendrix style, which was real nice. The Stones tune 
	at the beginning was scorching too!  I know the tune but I can't 
	come up with the title.  Anyone know ?

	I loved the dog attacking the vacuum trick too.  It's been on
	Letterman more than once...

	I wish my dog Lucy would listen like those sheep dogs!  Been a
	problem lately...

	ken
85.225Larry Bud got the girlTIEFLY::CLARKRead My Lips: No New TermFri Feb 07 1992 17:318
    I thought the other musicians looked a little less in awe of Bob
    after he started singing ... ;^)
    
    I finally got to see the clip where Dave was lowered into the
    giant glass of water, wearing a suit of Alka-Seltzer tablets.
    I heard that when he first tried that stunt, he wasn't wearing
    an oxygen mask and passed out from the huge amount of carbon
    dioxide being released.
85.226have I gotta note for youXANADU::GRABAZSYou got me workin', boss man...Fri Feb 07 1992 20:598
>	I wish my dog Lucy would listen like those sheep dogs!  

	Hey, ken - is that Lucy as in Loose Lucy?

	Debess


85.227multi-threadedFURTHR::HANNANBeyond description...Mon Feb 10 1992 11:5915
re:    <<< Note 85.226 by XANADU::GRABAZS "You got me workin', boss man..." >>>

>>	I wish my dog Lucy would listen like those sheep dogs!  
>
>	Hey, ken - is that Lucy as in Loose Lucy?

	There are many connections to the name Lucy when we decided on it:

	. Loose Lucy
	. Lucy in the Sky...
	. BB King's guitar
	. Lucille Ball, who passed away around that time

	Ken

85.228Vassar ClementsTERAPN::PHYLLISfly through the nightMon Feb 24 1992 20:109
    
    I caught a really hot Vassar Clements show last night at Speakeasy in
    NYC.  I'm not sure where he and his band are headed next.. but if they're
    in your area, check it out!!  Smoking hot dance-crazy bluegrass.. 2
    solid sets worth for $10!  :-)
    
    Phyllis_with_happy_feet_:-)
    
    
85.229SCOONR::GLADUTue Mar 03 1992 12:3733
Allman Brothers Band, March 2, 1992
Springfield Symphony Hall, Springfield, Mass.

Electric:
Statesboro Blues
End of the Line
Blue Sky
Nobody Knows
Low Down Dirty Me

Acoustic:
Seven Turns
Midnight Rider
Come On Into My Kitchen
I Got The blues
Melissa
Going Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
Dickie Betts slide solo ->

Electric:
Warren Hayes solo ->
Hoochie Coochie Man
unidentified blues tune
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed ->
Drums ->
Liz Reed Reprise

Encore:
Love is Everywhere 
One Way Out
Ramblin' Man
You Don't Love Me
Whippin' Post
85.230LJOHUB::RILEYWithout a slip of the toungue...Tue Mar 03 1992 13:516
    
    So GerG, were you there?  That list looks pretty darn long to me...
    
    Enquiring minds want to know!
    
    Treemon
85.231RAISE::GLADUTue Mar 03 1992 14:425
    Yes, I was there. That's the list. It's the standard show - about 3 hours 
    worth. One set plus an encore with a 10 minute break in between. Should be 
    similar to what y'all will see at the Orpheum tonight & tomorrow. 
    
    - Gerry
85.232SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Tue Mar 03 1992 15:369
>    Yes, I was there. That's the list. It's the standard show - about 3 hours 
>    worth. One set plus an encore with a 10 minute break in between. Should be 
>    similar to what y'all will see at the Orpheum tonight & tomorrow. 
    
And more importantly, Ger, did you tape it??  Inquiring minds really wanna
know!!  8-)

peace,
t!ng
85.233revival?EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedTue Mar 03 1992 15:4010
Gerry,

What you call "Love Is Everywhere"... is that prefaced by "Revival"?  Actually,
I believe the two parts are one tune called "Revival".

I love the instrumental beginning.

thanks,

adam
85.234:^)STUDIO::IDEnow it can be toldTue Mar 03 1992 15:5116
    re .233

    It's officially "Revival (Love Is Everywhere)."  The studio version has
    a great cheesy 70's studio effect with the chorus panning from side to
    side and back.  Just for the record, it's "Low Down Dirty Mean" (98%
    sure on this one).  No idea on the "unknown blues," any hints?  :^) 

    I got dem ol' unknown blues,
    And I don' know what it means.
    First I'm sad then I'm happy,
    Then I'm just kinda in-between.

    Unknown blues, they'll getcha ev'ry time.
    Unknown blues, how can I make this line rhyme?
    
    Jamie
85.235SCOONR::GLADUTue Mar 03 1992 19:4511
re: <<< Note 85.232 by SKYLRK::TING "Give Peace a Chance!!!" >>>

>And more importantly, Ger, did you tape it??  
    
    Of course. We even had permission. ;-) They had their record contract 
    rewritten to allow audience taping (you're supposed to call ahead and 
    arrange things with the road manager and/or soundboard man first). 
    Security even upgraded our taping spot for us down to the front row 
    of the lower tier. :-)
    
    - Gerry
85.236Questions, questions, questions...TLE::WEISSNo way I'll crash, this is a *BEER* truck!Wed Mar 04 1992 12:409
Hi All.

   Did anyone see the Allman Bros. at the Orpheum last night?  Are they playing
there tonight, too?  Are there any tickets left?  How would one go about getting
them, if there were?

Nosey, ain't I? :-)

Dave
85.237Oh wellRDVAX::MOLLENHAUERLivin' Life by th' dropWed Mar 04 1992 13:291
    No tix left when I called.
85.238SALEM::BURNSTAMALPAIS CHIEFSWed Mar 04 1992 13:545
    There were some scalpers tix available. Don't know how good the
    seats were or even if they were actually good tix,but he wanted
    $40 for them 8^0
    
    Andy
85.239PsychedMR4DEC::WENTZELLExpert Only &lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;Wed Mar 04 1992 14:065
I'll be there tonight - been looking forward to seeing them indoors in a more 
'quaint' atmosphere since seeing them in Nashua last summer.  Anyone else 
going tonight?  I'll be in Orch row G seat 125. 8^)

Scott
85.240Loud show tonightAWECIM::RUSSOWed Mar 04 1992 14:1311
    
    
    >>'quaint' atmosphere since seeing them in Nashua last summer.  Anyone
    else
    
    Hi Scott......'quaint' is a good way to describe it, as long as it
    includes being "LOUD!!!!!!"  I saw the Allman's at the Orpheum a couple
    years ago, and found it a bit too loud, though a great show.  Just an
    FYI....
    
    Hogan
85.241slight correction - ABB 3/4/92MR4DEC::WENTZELLExpert Only &lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;Thu Mar 05 1992 13:2447
Allman Brothers Band, March 4, 1992 - Orpheum Theatre, Boston

Electric:
Statesboro Blues
End of the Line
Blue Sky
Nobody Knows (nice jam in this one)
Southbound

Acoustic:
Seven Turns
Midnight Rider
Come On Into My Kitchen
I Got The blues at Midnight
Melissa
Going Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
Dickie Betts acoustic solo ->

Electric:
Warren Hayes slide solo ->
Hoochie Coochie Man
Get on With Your Life
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed ->
Drums ->
Liz Reed Reprise
Revival

Encore:
One Way Out
Whippin' Post


Comments:
Very similar to what Ger posted for Springfield.  All in all a great show.  
They really put a nice jam into Nobody Knows from their latest album.  They put 
a real nice beat behind Southbound, and Liz Reed lived up to what I expect from 
that one (one of my favorite tunes).  The only downer for me was all the 
<expletive deleted> who kept SCREAMING at the top of their lungs during the 
acoustic songs.  I guess they figured it was so quiet they'd get heard.

Only saw a couple tapers with mic stands flying proudly like some sort of 
high-tech dieties over the crowd, no one near me though so I didn't have the 
chance to intro myself in an attempt to get a copy - if there are any out 
there, this is my official grovel 8^)

Scott

85.242Jorma at Wetlands 3/4/92 Partial Set ListTERAPN::PHYLLISfly through the nightThu Mar 05 1992 14:5635
    
    Jorma w/Michael Falzerano at Wetlands last night.  This is a first set
    list only, as the person with the pen left at break.  The show started
    at 11:15pm and ended at just about 4:00am. (yawn! - didn't anybody ever
    teach these guys about school nights? ;-).  One break; about 1/2
    hr. I think.  The second half of the second set they were joined by a
    fiddle player, Craig somebody, who is a friend from Woodstock.
    
    3-4-92 Set I
    
    Hesitation Blues
    Uncle Sam's Blues
    I'll be Alright
    Another Man Done Gone
    Let us Get Together
    Don't You Leave me Here
    99 yr old Blues
    North Wind Rise
    Stop Breaking Day
    Bring it on Home to me
    Sea Child
    Trial by Fire
    Embryonic Journey
    Death don't have no mercy
    Nobody knows you when you're down and out
    Blue Moon
    I've Done Her Wrong
    I wish I could be like him
    Vampire Women
    How Long Blues
    Walkin Blues
    Search my Heart
    Praise the Lord and Pass the Snakes
    
    
85.243Scarlet->Fire deprivationZENDIA::FERGUSONSnapping point clock: 11:55Tue Mar 17 1992 15:414
	There's that Scar->Fire!  Damn!!  Missed it by one show.......
	i was hoping for it on Fri @ Nassau.

	oh well...
85.244TERAPN::PHYLLISfly through the nightTue Mar 17 1992 16:215
    
    Word from the field is the show last night was HOT!  Hope they save
    some of that good stuff for me tonight!! :-)
    
    
85.245CSLALL::HENDERSONIs that wicked wind still blowin'?Tue Mar 17 1992 16:2710

Who're we talking about here? Slipknot? U2? Richard Claderman? Iron Butterfly?
This is the non Dead topic, fer cryin out loud :^)





Jum
85.246Grate tapes ... KNOT !!! ... ;^)CUPTAY::BAILEYin search of a personal_idThu Apr 09 1992 12:3211
    Just recently got some really fine tapes of a Slipknot show with Buddy
    Cage ... from 03-17-89 ... but it didn't include a setlist.  While I
    recognize most of the tunes, there's a couple I can't identify.  So I
    was wonderin' if anybody else out there had these tapes, with setlists,
    and could help me out a bit.
    
    Some really hot stuff on these tapes ... I especially like GDTRFB ...
    sounds grate with the pedal steel ... ;^)
    
    ... Bobbb
    
85.247venue??LUDWIG::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryThu Apr 09 1992 12:503
    where was the performance?
    
    					da ve
85.248lots-o-question marks ...CUPTAY::BAILEYin search of a personal_idThu Apr 09 1992 14:1522
    It was at The Progressive, in Uxbridge.  Here's the setlist, as I've
    got it figured out so far:
    
    	Set 1			   Set 2
    
    Glenville Train->		I Shot the Sheriff
    On the Bayou		Box of Rain
    Tangled up in Blue		???
    The Shape I'm In		Eyes of the World
    ??? 			???
    Little Red Rooster		Henry
    ???				???
    And It Stoned Me		I Don't Need No Doctor->
    Cassidy			Good Lovin'
    Dixie Chicken		E: GDTRFB ->
    ???				E: Morning Dew
    
    With honorable mention to the white VW van that seemed to be parked in
    the wrong place ... this tape's good enough to make a few Knothead
    converts with ... ;^)
    
    			 ... Bobbb
85.249low roof but a big roomSLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownThu Apr 09 1992 14:233
    boy that was a fine show, well let me listen to it, maybe I can help !
    
    Cris
85.250Some cluesMILKWY::SAMPSONDriven by the windThu Apr 09 1992 16:3810
    Yah, if I heard the tape I could probably identify the tunes. But some
    Slipknot tunes you might not idetify would be; Fast Lane, it has a
    Dark Starish jam in it,  Imaginary Day I mistakedly refered to as 
    Unrequoited Love before i heard the name, Down By The River is a 
    Mark tune that repeats its name a few times, Ah I'm not sure if 
    "Better Back Off" really is Better Back Off and I can come up with
    some more hints in time. 
    
    	Maybe Adam can help
    Geoff
85.251I remember that night very well for some reason.SLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownThu Apr 09 1992 17:066
    true Geoff, but this was 1989 4 years ago, Mark was not with them Jamie
    was, and Im not sure if Bruce was throwing DarkStar into FastLane at
    that time....but more than likely its originals, another comes to mind
    something about T-N-T (boom) .....
    
    Chris
85.252LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsThu Apr 09 1992 18:0314
RE: <<< Note 85.251 by SLOHAN::FIELDS "Its sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left Town" >>>
>             -< I remember that night very well for some reason. >-

>    true Geoff, but this was 1989 4 years ago, Mark was not with them Jamie
>    was, and Im not sure if Bruce was throwing DarkStar into FastLane at
>    that time....but more than likely its originals, another comes to mind
>    something about T-N-T (boom) .....
 
	your mind scares me Chris!  You remember a slipknot gig from 1989
	but apparently don't recall that 92-89=3!!!!

:-)   


85.253I'm like a real big help here I know :-/STAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Thu Apr 09 1992 18:117
    Chris' mind has always scared me,.. thats what makes him so cool :-)
    
    I can't say that I'm the SLipknot efficiando that Adam is,.. but every
    time I've seen Bruce play with Buddy,.. they do that tune with the
    line "Henry tasted he got wasted" in it... whatever song that is...
    
    					/who_feels_like_he_should_know_the_title
85.254:^)LUDWIG::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryThu Apr 09 1992 18:3613
    uh, /, that's "Henry"...  :^)
    
    sorry Bobbb...  i thought i might have it at home but no luck...  i
    can't seem to remember shows from dates...  i do better from venues...
    and i know i have nothing from the progressive...  i wouldn't mind
    sitting and listening to it with you though! :^)
    
    and about Chris' mind and how it scares people...  ummmm, i think i
    will reserve comment at this time since all too frequently these
    days we same to be sharing the same mind!  (or the same empty space-
    sometimes i'm not sure! :^)
    
    				da ve_who's_getting_psyched_to_play_tonight
85.255so thats 365 X 3 +1 (leap year) = 1096 daysSLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownThu Apr 09 1992 18:3820
    	all together now !!!
    
    
    	mystery you here ?
    
    
    	OK NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    		HENRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    thats it /er
    
    
    3 years 4 years hell I remember points in time not the distance in
    time !
    
    Chris
    
85.256LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsThu Apr 09 1992 18:389
Re:     <<< Note 85.253 by STAR::SALKEWICZ "It missed... therefore, I am " >>>
>                 -< I'm like a real big help here I know :-/ >-

>    line "Henry tasted he got wasted" in it... whatever song that is...
    

	Chris or mystery, you wanna take this one?  :-)

85.257LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOchild of countless dreamsThu Apr 09 1992 18:404

	Hmmn, can you say ... notes collision?  :-)

85.258YupMR4DEC::WENTZELLExpert Only &lt;&gt;&lt;&gt;Thu Apr 09 1992 18:414

	notes collision

85.259SLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownThu Apr 09 1992 18:413
    ouch my head got a bump on it now, sheeees !
    
    Chris_with_a_boo_boo_on_his_melon
85.260PossibilitiesAIMHI::KELLERI'm P.U. Politically UncorrectThu Apr 09 1992 19:0333
Possible tunes - lyrics

BRUCE TUNES
-----------
Better Back Off - Yes Geoff this is th name of that tune
Fastlane - Yes it did have the Dark Star jam in '89, doesn't now though
IMaginary Day - She might live in a big house in the fancy part of town or 
		maybe in a cabin out in the woods with no-one else around
What's The Use - What's the use of giving your heart away, always ends up in 
		 your face I say...
Clear The Sky - Identifiable by the lyrics, which I can't remember at the 
		moment
Fork In The Road - Yes I'm doing the best I can, you know I am...
A Million To One - Identifiable by the lyrics.
I Needed You - Definitely identifiable by the lyrics
It Didn't Take Long - It didn't take long for me to see just how much you mean 
		      to me...
The Day Will Come - Sooner or later the day will come and you won't have to 
		    run jsut to have your fun...


BARRY TUNE
-----------
Just The Way It Seems To Me - Identifibale yby the lyrics

JAMIE TUNES
------------
1981 - Can't you see the writings on the wall, we're gonna take a fall, we're 
	gonna take a fall that's all...
Dynamite - I can't remember the lyrics but you should be able to identify the 
	   song by them.
Snakin' Down The Freeway - Snakin' down the freeway in the middle of the night 
			   long as it don't rain I'll be alright.
85.261DEDSHO::CLARKI'm still aliveThu Apr 09 1992 19:476
I've got a Slipknot tape with someone calling out

	"HENRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"

every 15 seconds or so ... and louder between songs ;^)  Kinda cracks me
up.
85.262STOUT::RUSSOThu Apr 09 1992 19:578
    
    >>I've got a Slipknot tape with someone calling out
    
    >>        "HENRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
    
    I wonder who that mystery person is? :^)
    
    Hogan
85.263STUDIO::IDEnow it can be toldThu Apr 09 1992 19:5710
    re .248
    
>I Don't Need No Doctor->

    I didn't see the show, and I'm no Slipknot expert, but the real name of
    this song might be "Goin' Down Slow."  Does it go: I'm gonna write my
    mother/Tell her the shape I'm in/...repeat.../Tell her my health is
    fading/ etc. etc. etc.?
    
    Jamie
85.264CUPTAY::BAILEYin search of a personal_idThu Apr 09 1992 19:5917
    RE: I Don't Need No Doctor
    
    That's definitely the name of the tune ... it's an old NRPS tune
    
    	I don't need no doctor, 'cause I know what's ailing me
    	(repeat)
    	Been too long away from my baby, I'm comin' down with a misery.
    
    	etc.
    
    Slipknot's words are slightly different.
    
    Thanks for all the help with the tape.  I can't match lyrics to titles
    just now ... I loaned it to Probz for the week-end.
    
    ... Bobbb
    
85.265LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeThu Apr 09 1992 20:0112
             <<< Note 85.263 by STUDIO::IDE "now it can be told" >>>
>I Don't Need No Doctor->

Jamie,  thjjere's an "I don't need no doctor" written by a fab-duo writing
team and jeesh I forgot the names temporarily (a black man and black woman)
who went on to try to make it singing their own songs.

ANYHOW,  Humble Pie popularized it (on the Humble Pie Live at the Fillmore)

seeya
bob

85.266STUDIO::IDEnow it can be toldThu Apr 09 1992 20:058
    I sit corrected!
    
    btw, a bazillion thanks to whoever mentioned the Allman Bros. radio
    special that was on last Sunday!!  I htought it would be a lame
    syndicated show, but it was an hour with their road manager and tape
    archivist.  Great stuff!
    
    Jamie
85.267I really are smartSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Thu Apr 09 1992 20:357
    'scuse me,.. but does anybody know how the song "Henry" goes?
    
    							/:-}
    
    I shoudl know the title,... duyah!
    
    
85.268where's my medicated lotion when I need it?LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeThu Apr 09 1992 20:3915
       <<< Note 85.264 by CUPTAY::BAILEY "in search of a personal_id" >>>

>    RE: I Don't Need No Doctor
>    That's definitely the name of the tune ... it's an old NRPS tune
>    	I don't need no doctor, 'cause I know what's ailing me
>    	(repeat)
>    	Been too long away from my baby, I'm comin' down with a misery.
    

Yeah Bobbb, NRPS covered it though.  It was written by those 2 I mentioned
earlier ...great song writing team (x and simpson or somesuch) can anyone
bail me out and say who they are....??

the other bob

85.269one of my favorite NRPS tunes ...CUPTAY::BAILEYin search of a personal_idThu Apr 09 1992 20:5427
    No problem /mon ... 
    
    	Every year along about this time it all goes dry
    	nothin' round for love nor money there to get you high
    	Henry got pissed off and said he'd run to Mexico
    	50 people waitin' back at home for Henry's load
    
    	And now he's rolling down the mountain going fast, fast, fast
    	and if he blows it this one's gonna be his last
    	went to Acapulco to return the golden keys
    	Henry keep the brakes on for this corner if you please
    
    	Henry got to Mexico and turned his truck around
    	talking to the man who's got it growing from the ground
    	Henry tasted, he got wasted, couldn't even see
    	How he's gonna drive like that is not too clear to me
    
    	And now he's rolling ... etc.
    
    	Summertime in Tiajuana it's a lovely town
    	Bullfights bring the tourists and the money coming down
    	Border guards are much too busy there at 5 o'clock
    	Henry's truckin' right on through he hardly even stopped
    
    	And now he's rolling ... etc. (again)
    
    
85.270vicious vicious VICIOUS cycleSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Thu Apr 09 1992 21:3310
    Thanks Bob,..
    
    	Hey,.. whats the title of that tune!
    
    	Its Mr. Short term memory...
    
    							/
    
    PS So how does that tune Henry go again?
    
85.271TLE::ABBOTJ. R. &quot;Bob&quot; Dobbs in 92Thu Apr 09 1992 21:422
    Ashford and Simpson?
    
85.272Henry?MR4MI2::REHILLCall me Mystery HillThu Apr 09 1992 22:483
    
    	Did I hear someone mention Henry?
    
85.273Hes my palSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Thu Apr 09 1992 23:454
    paging Henry,.. Mr Henry where you at man?
    
    							/Henry
    
85.275LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeFri Apr 10 1992 12:5819
RE: ASHFORD AND SIMPSON!!!!

yes yes! that's who wrote "I don't need no Doctor"!!  
Thanks and a tip o' the hat to Mr. Abbott (I can never remember 2 b's ? 2 t's???

They wrote a lot of hit songs for other folks and back in the late 70's
and early 80's tried a go of it on their own.

thanks...
bob

ps.  thanks for the treat on my doorstep too, Scott! What went out 1/2 empty 
came back all full.  I actually have the other John H stuff on another tape
but none of the other....

pps.  I knew it was something with Simpson but with the media blitz w/ Bart,
it's impossible to think past that...


85.276SLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownMon Apr 13 1992 12:541
    Henry who ?
85.277CXDOCS::BARNESMon Apr 13 1992 14:419
    had to dig out my best of NRPS this weekend after reading the past
    replys...got me ina cowboy mood all day Saturday...YEEEEHAAAAHHHHH!
    
    "You angel, you. Ya got me under yer wing..."
    
    "I don't know you...
    lately you've been on my mind. I don't know you.."
    
                                  rfb
85.278Had to do this before someone else didSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Mon Apr 13 1992 17:034
    Tyah,,, Henry,. and his buddy Chelly!
    
    							/
    
85.279Albert Collins mini-reviewVSSCAD::LARUgoin' to GracelandWed Apr 15 1992 14:5112
    I saw Albert Collins (& Lonnie Mack) in New Haven last night...
    Great show!!!   I had a great time and am now really looking
    forward to tomorrow's show at Nightstage. Albert & his rhythm 
    guitarist were cranking out some interesting harmonics...   
    after about 5+ minutes of applause, they came back out for a 15 minute
    encore to close the place...  great jam!
    
    If you go tomorrow, don't worry about being late.  Lonnie
    Mack didn't do anything worth writing about.
    
    /bruce
                   
85.2804/24/92 in Sommerville...ROULET::DWESTDont Overlook Something ExtraordinaryMon Apr 27 1992 18:4061
85.281 its part of the plan me thinks !SLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownMon Apr 27 1992 19:005
    Hey what would a Slipknot show be without a power loss anyway ! I think
    the drumers (past and present) pay someone to pull the plug ! rilly :')
    
    
    Chris
85.282:-)CSCMA::M_PECKARJ'adore le monde de Wayne, pas!Mon Apr 27 1992 20:106
Rache and I hadda great time. It was my second Merl show, very very similar to 
the first Merl show I saw.  Ran into Dav-o Feeney there, hadn't seen that RO 
Dechead for quite some time, Hiya Dav-o!!!!!!!

Looks like Treemon had the most fun of all.  :-)
85.283Grate show!MR4DEC::WENTZELLDon't say I didn't warn youMon Apr 27 1992 20:4936
It was grate to see everybody!

da ve summed it up nice - a very high energy show all around!  Nice to meet 
the TreeFamily before the show as well, since the TreeParents live in the same 
neck of the woods ;^) in Maine as most of my family.  Hope they had fun meeting 
all the DECheads!  But then again who wouldn't 8^)

My hats off to Ms. Anderson (opening act).  She stood up there looking out at 
a hall full of people staring back at her (she must usually play bars and the 
like because she commented on how nice it was to have an audience that more 
or less *had* to face her) who for the most part had probobly never heard of 
her - and she did a grate job!  She also commented on how the appalause got 
louder after every song, I think she liked that 8^).  Her Watchtower was 
indeed a terrific version, but why did she give credit to Dylan for a Dead 
song?? ;^)  (<-Dylan fans note the winky-smiley before having a coronary!!)

Slipknot really had the place jumping!!  I sat next to a guy who had never seen 
them before and seemed to kind of yawn at the thought of "just another dead 
cover band" but I set him straight 8^) and sure enough he was bopping up a 
storm all the way through the set!  And how about a new motto - "Slipknot, the 
guitars stop pickin' but Treemon keeps kickin'!"  Too bad all I could see in 
the middle of the stage was a big black box (Merl's B3) and the very 
tippidy top of Treemon's head.

And of course there was Merl and his band - they were awesome!  I was about 15 
feet from him and I swear I could feel the energy just oozing out of him and 
sucking me and the crowd right in!  During Blues from the Rainforest he gave 
out all kinds of percussion stuff (tamborine, different types of 
morraccas(sp?), sand filled tubes, etc.) to those in the front row and for a 
while they got to be part of the band.  He kind of laughed at being voted the 
#5 "New-Age" artist, and then went on to teach all what it really means to 
boogie.

I went home totally exhausted and feeling awesome!

Scott
85.284great showEZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedMon Apr 27 1992 23:2426
So, da ve, you're saying that Slipknot is too good a band to be "just an
opening act"?  I agree!  I kept thinking of it as a Slipknot show with Merl
coming on after rather than a Merl show with Slipknot opening.  But, also,
consider the venue.  If the show was in a bar or nightclub everyone would have
been dancing throughout the show.  It was kind of weird seeing this show in a
movie theater.

It was nice to see so many DECheads and Slipknot regulars there.  I even met an
old friend from school who had never seen Slipknot.  I'll have to get his
opinion on the show next time I see him.

I was glad the sound was great.  I was afraid it might be too loud.  Hats off
to Phil!

I also enjoyed the solo artist very much!  She has a great voice, good guitar
chops, and good stage presence.  I also thought the Watchtower was unique and
good.

I forgot what my first Merl show (last year at the Channel) was like, but I'll
remember this one for a while.  I loved the rhythms, multi-part songs, and odd
time signatures.  The band was very tight.  The guitar player was out of this
world at times!

that's it,

adam
85.285Save,.... Mother EarthSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Tue Apr 28 1992 17:3128
    
    	this was my first Merle gig in person,.. but it was pretty much
    what I expected.
    
    	I got a kick out of da ve's review because to me their energy
    is very high.... its just a diferent kind of music. Its more of a jazz
    style than the "rock" style show Slipknot put on. I agree that
    Slipknots set pumped up the crowd more,.. but the lack of energy in
    the crowd for Merle just shows what kind of crowd it was. To me, that
    stuff was intense from the opening... It was actually a bit higher
    in the "lets excite th ecrowd" department than I expected.... I thought
    we'd get a lot more cool jazz,.. Saunders/Garcia at teh Keystone...
    But I liked them a lot overall,.. and Merle's drummer was pretty
    friggin' unbelievable.. saw him backstage after the show and he could
    barely lift his head to acknowledge my compliments... Merle and his
    guitar player on the other hand seemed like they were ready to go all
    night... :-)
    
    		I don't know about who should have opened for who,.. but
    it sure seemd lik ethe place was at least half knot fans,...
    
    
    		Da ve,.. its too bad you didn't stay around for the late
    stuff because after his speech Merle did crank to new energy levels to
    close out...
    
    							/Bill
    
85.286What a night!LJOHUB::RILEYWithout a slip of the toungue...Tue Apr 28 1992 17:5776
    
    Thanks to all who came and for the good words about the show!  I think
    Fog was right...  I HAD A BLAST!  Here's my version of the evening...
    
    I showed up with Stacy and drumset at around 3:00pm in order to have
    plenty o time.  Indeed I did, I didn't get to set up my drums until
    7:20pm!  Anyway, it was fun being a part of the stage setup (although a
    very small part...  "Tree could you hold up the lighting stands?" "Tree
    could you reach this for me?" etc...)  
    
    Stress levels reached maximum at around 6:30pm when it became obvious
    that we weren't going to get a sound check at all, and we also found
    out that we couldn't so much as move ANY of Merl's equipment even a
    foot back for the drums to be setup.  But after a bit we played the
    hand we were dealt and figured out how to make a go of what we had...
    
    Tree family showed up @ 7:30 with the rest of y'all, present were
    TreeMom (Betsy), TreeDad (Gil), TreeBro (Bart), Tree-sis-in-law
    (Susie), and Tree-in-laws (John & Jeannette)...  Stacy sat with all of
    them in the first row.  
    
    First act came on, and from what I could hear (couldn't hear it that
    well back stage) she was very good.  Your reviews will have to suffice
    since I was not in a good spot to listen.
    
    She ended and we took stage...  Right away I knew the double drumming
    would not even approach it's full potential...  I couldn't see OR hear
    Jack at all, luckily he could hear me, and he basically followed me all
    set long as a result.  Slipknot set list:  (from memory)
    
    The Day Will Come		(Bruce original)
    Feel Like a Stranger
    Westbound Train             (Mark original)
    Imaginary Day               (Bruce original)
    Southbound
    The Way It Seems to Me->    (Barry original)
    Drums->
    Help on the way-> (unexpected Drums->)
    Help on the Way->
    Slipknot->
    Out in the Rain             (Mark original)
    Fork in the Road            (Bruce original)
    
    
    I was only upset about the double drumming arrangement not being more
    effective...  just wait for Slip into Summer though!  The rest of the
    evening was very high energy and felt pretty good to all of us up on
    stage.
    
    The power failure was a definite curve ball, and though Chris has an
    interesting theory, I paid off no one that I know of, so it would've
    had to be Jack...  The comment was made that Jack and I were the Help
    on the Way to the rest of the band during that song, and I think
    there's something to be said for that!  What a rush to hear the crowd
    go crazy during the drumming though  BIG 8^) on my face...  
    
    After we stepped down, I was on an emotional high for the rest of the
    night, and sitting front and center for Merl was a lot of fun.  Merl's
    highlights for me were Blues from the Rainforest, Finders Keepers,
    Funky System, Save Mother Earth, and that wild upbeat version of Sugaree.
    
    Rapping with Merl and his band between sets was also a lot of fun, they
    are very interesting and fun people.
    
    Closing note:  Slipknot is talking about doing the Somerville Theatre
    as the Headliner sometime in the next year, and if it happens, we'll
    bring all sorts of cool lighting equipment (like projectors) to
    supplement the show.  I would LOVE to play there again, expecially with
    some more breathing room and less anxiety before the show!
    
    I did have Slipknot viedotaped, but the picture is extremely dark due
    to the backlighting, and there is no low end on the audio because we
    just used the microphone on the VHS camera. 
    
    Treemon
    
85.287enthusiasmAWARD::CLARKI'm still aliveTue Apr 28 1992 18:0111
re     <<< Note 85.286 by LJOHUB::RILEY "Without a slip of the toungue..." >>>
                               -< What a night! >-
>    Closing note:  Slipknot is talking about doing the Somerville Theatre
>    as the Headliner sometime in the next year, and if it happens, we'll
>    bring all sorts of cool lighting equipment (like projectors) to

YEAH!

:^)

- DC
85.288HippestMR4MI2::REHILLCall me Mystery HillTue Apr 28 1992 23:355
    "bring all sorts of coll lighting equipment (like projectors) to"
    
    That would be the hippest, Tree! I wonder where you got that idea? ;*)
    
    
85.289LJOHUB::RILEYWithout a slip of the toungue...Wed Apr 29 1992 13:0613
    
    
    Heard on Saturday night after the Somerville show:
    
    "If I heard Jim Rehill say 'That would be the hippest' one more time, I
    would have killed him!"  - Phil Davidson
    
    Actually Mystery, thought the topic was brought up on Friday night, we
    were talking about the projectors a couple of weeks earlier.  The nice
    thing is that Cathy & Dave (lighting crew) already have the equipment,
    so all they're waiting for is the right place...
    
    Tree
85.290heheheSLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownWed Apr 29 1992 13:271
    this is funny, can't wait to see Phil, I'll know just what to say :'0
85.291God - 5/17/92ANGLIN::GEBHARTMet her accidentally in St.Paul, MNMon May 18 1992 20:0937
    Eric Clapton at the Target Center - Minneapolis 5/17/92
    
    - Increadable!!!!!
    If you have not seen this tour yet you are missing out.  All I could do
    was sit in amazemnt and total respect for a man who has worked so hard
    for so long and has been through more than anyone would ever care to go
    throgh in their worst nightmare - I guess that is how you get the blues
    though.  I don't have a complete setlist but I will go through some
    highlights as best I can remember - 
    
    He started out with a very powerful White Room that sent chills down my
    spine.  Then came a couple of Journeyman tunes.  I Shot the Sherriff
    isn't reggea anymore - But I really loved it.  
    
    He did two acoustic songs - tears in Heaven and The Circus left town 
    and talked about recently getting back to the acoustic and the writing 
    these songs for the loss of his son :-( it ws a sad moment - I have 
    trouble thinking about that type of loss and how it happened imagine 
    what he must be going through - it sounds like he was close to him. :-(
    
    Wonderful Tonight, old Love, Badge and Layla where the highlights for
    for me after that - I was hoping for that acoustic Layla but I won't
    complain ;-).   After a five min break before the encore EC came back
    out for a DEAD type encore with: After Midnight-->Crossroads-->Sunshine
    of your Love-->Drums-->Sunshine of Your Love!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Drums was - Iam speechless - first the main drummer played for about 10
    minutes until he stoped of exhastion.  Then the bongo player, who many 
    of you probably remember from the eMpTy-V unplugged (bald with glasses)
    - he went absolutley nuts - then got the gong out - a real crowd
    pleaser.  EC also had a great rythm guitarist - he showed great respect
    for EC - when Eric would take a solo the rythm guitarist would try to 
    follow with the fingering Eric was laying down - some interesting
    interaction.  Eric also gave him and Nathan East (bass) a chance to
    shine.   
    
    All in all a lot of fun - see him if you get the chance.   
    
85.292EC's band lineupSLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownMon May 18 1992 20:2415
    filling in the names.....
    
    Nathan East Bass & vocals
    Steve Ferrone Drums
    Ray Cooper Percussion
    Katie Kissoon Backing Vocals
    Tessa Niles Backing Vocals
    now I'm going on it would make sense list of people
    Andy Fairweather-Low guitar (short blonde hair)
    Chuck Leavall Keyboards (long dark crazy hair)
    
    I've been told as of today EC should be somewhere around here Aug 18th
    anyone else hear this ???
    
    Chris
85.293slowhandSELL3::ROBERTSa blinding flash o'the obviousMon May 18 1992 20:264
    I heard EC will be performing with Elton John in Foxboro around that
    time ... hopefully he will have another option for us :-)
    
    c
85.294Ayup,.. confoimed possible definite maybeSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Mon May 18 1992 20:445
    I heard the same (where I don't remeber) about Clapton/Elton as
    Carol...
    							/
    
    							
85.295this is what you call a RUMORCSLALL::BENJAMINMon May 18 1992 22:584
     Someone told me that Elton John won't be playing with EC when he plays
    around here this summer...Elton had a change of plans....
    
               DaveB.
85.296nah, it's whatcha call a BREAK!SELL1::ROBERTSa blinding flash o'the obviousTue May 19 1992 12:556
    
    RE: .295
    
    Seemed like a wierd match up anyway 
    
    c
85.297banjo mastersTLE::ABBOTJ. R. &quot;Bob&quot; Dobbs in 92Fri Jun 05 1992 14:3440
    Saw a great show last night: Bela Fleck and Tony Trischka at Del
    Rossi's Trattorio in Dublin NH.
    
    Del Rossi's is an Italian restaurant in an old farmhouse.  The food is
    *very* good but not cheap.  Very cozy music room, it's like having
    someone play in your living room.
    
    Tony Trischka taught Bela to play the banjo about 20 years ago.  He
    plays at Del Rossi's often, sometimes bringing guests.  Bela Fleck, for
    those not in the know, heads up Bela Fleck and the Flecktones (opened
    for the Dead on NYE) and has been in the bluegrass bands Newgrass
    Revival and Strength in Numbers.
    
    Last night it was just the two of them and their banjos.  No singing or
    other accompaniment.  Bela said it was the first of their 4-stop world
    tour, they should be hitting New York soon.  A real relaxed night, like
    hanging out in a jam session.
    
    They did two sets, almost 3 hours.  Normally I would go crazy after 3
    hours of banjo playing, but these guys are so unusual that you don't
    even realize they're playing just plain old banjos.
    
    Some highlights: the classical section, when they did Bach's Two Part
    Invention No. 1 in C minor.  The dueling Beatles challenge - they
    alternated playing random Beatles tunes until they ran out (Bela
    attempted I Am the Walrus but it didn't work), then Tony started with a
    medley of Rolling Stones tunes.  Tony did one tune playing his banjo
    with a bow, really neat effect.  Bela did some slide, after a
    suggestion from Bonnie Raitt.  They ended up with something really
    strange: the both of them playing the same banjo.  One would do the
    chords, then the other would do the picking, and then they would
    alternate, and finally ending with both doing the picking and chords at
    the same time.
    
    Got a chance to talk with Bela after the show.  Meri was wondering if
    he was on "Zoom" many years ago, they had a teenage banjo player on one
    show and her sister thought it might have been him, but it wasn't.
    
    Scott
    
85.298LANDO::HAPGOODFri Jun 05 1992 14:4111
>>    Saw a great show last night: Bela Fleck and Tony Trischka at Del
>>    Rossi's Trattorio in Dublin NH.

Hey Scott,

this guys brother, Chris Del Rossi, is your neighbor; he used to cook there.

bob



85.299Majek FashekSTUDIO::IDEnow it can be toldThu Jun 25 1992 13:0119
    Anyone heard of a guy named Majek Fashek?  He, along with some of his
    group, was on Late Night the other night.  Only once before (the first
    time I heard Phish) have I been so impressed with a new (to me) group. 
    The group is Nigerian, and combines reggae with Afro-pop for a sound
    that rivals reggae legends Bob Marley and Peter Tosh.  The band
    consisted of Majek on vocals, a couple of back-up singers, one or two
    talking drummers (the original roto-tom!), and a keyboard/sample
    player.  Dave raved about their entire CD (entitled "Spirit of Love," I
    think) and said that it was all as good as the one number they did.  I
    can't recall any Late Night performer getting the ovation that this
    group got -- the crowd just exploded.  As did I -- I must've listened
    to the song five times last night.  If you like reggae, and Dave's
    right about the rest of the CD, you might want to pick this one up.
    
    Bela Fleck and the Flecktones were on PBS a couple of nights ago.  How
    does the bass player not get strap burns from flipping his bass around
    his neck?  :^)
    
    Jamie
85.300LANDO::HAPGOODnow we play for lifeThu Jun 25 1992 13:269
             <<< Note 85.299 by STUDIO::IDE "now it can be told" >>>
                               -< Majek Fashek >-

Jamie,  I think this is the guy I was referring to in the "music happenings" 
note that will be part of the Reggae Fest at Loon .... I said "someone
with an afro-pop/world beat" name...

bob

85.301warren-liveSCHOOL::SUSELDanced my feet down to the knees!Thu Jun 25 1992 13:4318
    Warren Zevon recorded a live album at the paradise last night, and It
    was a HOT show!  Warren seems to have cleaned up his act {for now}, and
    was still looking as healthy as he was about 9 months ago when he last
    came around.
    
    He played quit a few songs, all solo/acoustic or piano.  He was playing
    with a new keyboard and went off in a space type jam during Mohammeds
    Radio which was the encore, {he turned it into an election parody} 
    Other songs played:
    
    Weirwolves of Boston {!}
    Detox
    Poor poor pitiful me {he orig wrote this}
    Looking for a heart
    Mr. bad example
    Roland the thompson gunner
                  
    Expect release in a few months
85.302SIOG::OSULLIVAN_DTue Jun 30 1992 16:107
    Saw Lyle Lovett and his Large Band here in Dublin last weekend - great
    show.  I counted 14 people on stage.  The last time I saw his show he
    had 3 or 4 people I think, so it's really large this time.
    
    Catch it if you can.
    
    -Dermot
85.303LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureWed Jul 22 1992 13:0310
To those of you going to Hollman tonight start getting psyched because you
have a wonderful show ahead of you!!

Santana, as usual was phenomenal.  And for this recently converted Phish_virgin
I'd say another phish_head is born.  They are fantastic .... a suprise in
every song!!  

Two great bands and a super bill.  Any xtras for tonight?  :-)

85.304CSLALL::HENDERSONKeep hope alive!Wed Jul 22 1992 13:1415

RE:   <<< Note 85.303 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "discover the wonders of nature" >>>


>To those of you going to Hollman tonight start getting psyched because you

   I don't know who's playing at Hollman (or where it is for that matter), but
I'm going to *Holman* to see Santana :-)






85.305Lisa Yetto....Come on down!!!!DRINKS::WEISSEight Canadian dollars I'll never spend.Wed Jul 22 1992 13:178
> Any xtras for tonight?  :-)

As far as I know, there are still plenty of tickets left...I'm sure they'll be
sellin' 'em at the box office tonight...Also, you can get 'em through
ticketmaster (also, Nashua Center for the Arts is sellin' em.  Cash only, but no
ridiculous fees, like tm...)

Dave
85.306OCTOBR::GRABAZSseeking all that's still unsungWed Jul 22 1992 13:248
	AND...if you want to hear them again but don't want to spend
	more money Lisa...just come and do what I plan on doing...
	set up a blanket in the park outside the stadium and listen
	from there - there's always quite a crowd outside and I
	hear the sound's pretty good 

	Debess_el_cheapo!
85.307when is showtime? :-)LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureWed Jul 22 1992 13:545
hey cheapo, that sounds like a plan.  What color is your blanket?  Do you
have a particular spot you plan to be in?  Maybe I'll come and join you,
I missed not seeing you at either camping trip!

85.308OCTOBR::GRABAZSseeking all that's still unsungWed Jul 22 1992 14:1026
re:   <<< Note 85.307 by LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTO "discover the wonders of nature" >
>                          -< when is showtime?  :-) >-

	you'd have to ask someone with tickets ;-)

>hey cheapo, that sounds like a plan.  What color is your blanket?  Do you
>have a particular spot you plan to be in?  Maybe I'll come and join you,

	my blanket is a yellow,white,black mexican blanket.  I plan on
	having a couple of citronella candles going.  Possibly a lantern
	on too if we're on "the dark side".  I'm not EXACTLY sure where
	I'll be sitting - my friend has suggested the side to the right
	of the stage - she says there's a big field there, but no lights.
	The side on the left is a little better lit.  I'll be there with 
	Guntis, Andra, Lara and Eli - so it's going to have to be a group
	decision when we get there.  If you plan to go I could plan to
	meet you somewhere specific - like at the front entrance.

I missed not seeing you at either camping trip!

	I must admit, I was real disappointed that you didn't make it
	this weekend. I was looking forward to seeing ya...

	Debess


85.309LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureWed Jul 22 1992 14:454
okeydokey ... me and my tired_body will see how we are feeling in a little
bit and then let you know what we decide.  :-)

85.310:')SLOHAN::FIELDSMeowowowowow I'm Hungry !Wed Jul 22 1992 14:492
    well lisa if your tired body wants to go my old rusting body will join
    you !
85.311GIAMEM::CONNORSWed Jul 22 1992 15:453
    
    hey /, what the heck were ya doin jumpin up on stage
    last night at the end of Santana???   ;-)
85.312/!?VSSCAD::LARUrun, or fight, or dance!Wed Jul 22 1992 15:532
Gee,  was that / in the white outfit who hugged Carlos
and then jiggled his butt for us all to see??
85.313Ha !SLOHAN::FIELDSMeowowowowow I'm Hungry !Wed Jul 22 1992 15:581
    and he calls me a ham ! geeesss
85.314GIAMEM::CONNORSWed Jul 22 1992 15:594
    
    maybe it was a /ette????
    
    ;-/
85.315fun nightSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Wed Jul 22 1992 16:0124
    Yeah,...
    
    	Carlos waved to me and said "Hey man,.. I'm tired,.. why don't you
    jump up here and finsih this jam for me."... so I said "sure" and
    jumped up there,.. wigled my wiggly stick for a while and then
    security "escorted" me to the backstage area where I eneded up partying
    the night away with the band...
    	One for the memoirs I tell ya :-) :-)
    
    								/
    
    OPS Thanks Tracy fro the great tix,.. and what a trip! you knowing
    Jimbo (Kind's drummer) :-),.. and that was my first time seeing
    Carlos,.. At one point,.. Carlos got that "ghost with guitar"
    image/persona going just like I've only really seen one other
    guitarist do (namely Jerome Garcia),... I was trasfixiated,.. he
    melted my mind. I like the way he just keeps on going and going until
    he gets it right. Great fun,.. but there were a lot of people jumping
    up on stage there towards the end... that one girl I think Carlos kind
    of liked,.. :-),.. didn't seem to care that she stayed there a
    while,...
    
    								/
    
85.316EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedWed Jul 22 1992 16:5243
re:     <<< Note 85.315 by STAR::SALKEWICZ "It missed... therefore, I am " >>>
>                                 -< fun night >-

>    he gets it right. Great fun,.. but there were a lot of people jumping
>    up on stage there towards the end... that one girl I think Carlos kind
>    of liked,.. :-),.. didn't seem to care that she stayed there a
>    while,...

I liked that little dance she did after hugging Carlos.  She rocked her hips
simultaneously with some bongo hits - almost like she knew they were coming! 
Or maybe the percussionists were just playing off her!

I was pleasantly surprised that security did not get violent.   They didn't
even try to grab her, she just jumped back into the crowd after being on stage
for a good 10 seconds!  But, she did start a trend of people jumping on stage. 
One guy got grabbed and was escorted off to the right of the stage.  I couldn't
see it but I wonder if they threw him right out on his ass after getting
backstage.  The last guy to jump on stage was grabbed by a security dude and
was gently pushed back in the direction of the crowd, but then the security guy
turned around and went back to the side of the stage, not realizing that the
audience member was dancing at the edge of the stage!  Then he jumped back into
the crowd.

It's nice to see the exhibitionist-type audience members get their thrills
without being violently taken down by security.  I don't mind seeing such
displays because most of them are interesting to watch.  And with a man like
Santana, there's usually no fear of a wacko coming up and doing something real
stupid on stage.  I can really appreciate the stage-jumpers who just do their
thing and return quietly to their seats. :-)

Carlos really burned up those frets.  I liked the way he would give the nod to
each band member and play off them for a while (much like another band we
know).  And the guy is as accurate as an atomic clock!

I missed the first half of Phish but what I saw was great once again.  Carlos
really seemed to like them as evident by his mention of them when introducing
his band.  You could hear Phish really clearly in the parking lot where we were
parked.  That's how we knew they hit the stage (5 minutes early!).  We just
finished our beer with nice Phish background music!

have fun at Holman tonight!

adam
85.317SMURF::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Wed Jul 22 1992 17:115
No Phish/Carlos jam, huh?

Too bad.  Maybe tonight....I'm psyched!!

tim
85.318:^)TECRUS::FROMMThere is no way to peace;peace is the way.Thu Jul 23 1992 02:2328
trey jammed with santana a bit at the garden state arts center (nj), but that's
the only instance that i know of

Phish - Great Woods 7/21/92

All Things Re-considered
Possum
It's Ice
Sparkle
Stash
Squirming Coil
Runaway Jim

way too short for Phish, imho; i wish they would stop this opening band non-
sense and get back to headlining; i saw an awful lot of Phish shirts among the
crowd, and almost no Santana shirts - kind of an interesting twist for an
opening band; oh yeah, i did enjoy santana too (great percussion section, esp.
the dude on bongos)

for those of you who just got a first taste of phish last night (or tonight),
i'll be sure to post a schedule when they resume their own touring, but since
they're with santana for the rest of the summer and then going back to the
studio to record the next album, it probably won't be until late in the fall;
the only remaining headline date (for you west coasters) is:

8/17:  San Juan Capistrano, California -- Coach House (all ages)

- rich
85.319CSLALL::HENDERSONChew a little juicy fruitThu Jul 23 1992 05:1214

I enjoyed Phish...a lot of hot jamming..

Santana was great..loved the whole set



Unfortunately the ride home was a bummer...




Jum 
85.320What an awesome show! :-)DRINKS::WEISSEight Canadian dollars I'll never spend.Thu Jul 23 1992 13:175
Trey jammed with Carlos last night!!!!

:-) :-) :-)

Dave
85.321SMURF::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Thu Jul 23 1992 13:5130
    Jum, my sympathy for your misfortune - I thought I saw you on the way
    out, but didn't realize it until I was well past you on the way out of
    town...I hope it works out for you.  Nice seeing you there, and your
    friend as well.
    
    A really fine show - too bad Phish didn't play a little longer - we got
    there late, almost 8pm, and only heard 2-3 songs.  Anyone get a
    setlist?  I got there during "Bouncing 'Round the Room".  Did they play
    Possum?
    
    And a really grate jam with Trey and Carlos.  Carlos just played, and
    played and played...I was thinking he'd do two sets with a break, since
    he started around 8:30 or so?  Nope.  Just 2.5 hours of solid music.
    
    Dave & Sparky - I thought I saw youse briefly, as I was being suffled
    out of the aisle, but didn't see you again after that.  I tend to
    wander during shows, if I can...  I guess when ya can't dance, ya gotta
    do something with the energy. :-).  I did look for you during the
    break, but like you I couldn't hang out near the baseball diamond long. 
    Too many kids hurling projectiles.
    
    Interesting audience mix too (I'm into people watching).  Broad mix
    from the teenagers like the girls that bummed $.50 from me, to the
    "mature generation" (like me?), who remember listening to Carlos in
    high school/college when he first released tunes like "Black Magic
    Woman".  
    
    And what a gorgeous night - cool weather, stars and fine music...
    
    tim
85.322CSLALL::HENDERSONChew a little juicy fruitThu Jul 23 1992 15:0912

 I thought I saw Dave at one point myself, but having only met you once, I
wasn't sure (and having never met Sparky I really wasn't sure :-/)



A grate night though..the crowd age mix was real interesting.



Jum
85.323;^)NRSTA2::CLARKEver breathe oxygen, son?Mon Jul 27 1992 20:424
Geez, I left the door unlocked and a whole batch o' beer in the fridge,
and youse guys didn't take advantage of it!

- DC
85.324CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenTue Jul 28 1992 00:343

Yeah, we did...we just replaced it with new stuff :-)
85.3268^PNRSTA2::CLARKEver breathe oxygen, son?Tue Jul 28 1992 13:077
Do I detect a little sarcasm there, Jolii?  ;^)

Actually I was kinda hoping you WOULD let the cats out.  Coming
home after a week of vacation to a house occupied by 7 cats was a
little, um, overwhelming ... phee-yew ...

- DC 
85.327the not so great debate continues?STAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Tue Jul 28 1992 15:064
    Why don't you let the cats out then?....
    
    								/Cat
    
85.328stop it !SLOHAN::FIELDSMeowowowowow I'm Hungry !Tue Jul 28 1992 15:129
    not in this note it don't !
    
    Mod_from_hell
    
    
    
    
    8*)
    
85.329yes, she DOES existNRSTA2::CLARKEver breathe oxygen, son?Tue Jul 28 1992 18:186
re     <<< Note 85.327 by STAR::SALKEWICZ "It missed... therefore, I am " >>>
>                    -< the not so great debate continues? >-
>
>    Why don't you let the cats out then?....

I'm kinda fond of my head, and would rather Lydia didn't remove it.  ;^)
85.330...STAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Tue Jul 28 1992 19:436
    :-)
    
    OK dc,.. keep your head if you must!
    
    							/Soko
    
85.331ELP reviewEBBV03::SMITHwe were meant to be hereThu Jul 30 1992 13:5631

	When I was able to swing a couple really cheap tickets to
	ELP, I did not expect the performance to be as rippin
	as last nights show, I was just going for historical reasons.
	Bonzo's son's band opened up, Jason is quite the drummer
	but the rest of the band sucks!  A massive thunderstorm 
	really got the atmosphere riled up for ELP, luckly we were 
	under the pavilion and were relatively dry.  ELP walked on
	stage.  I expected to see a bunch of musicians backing these
	guys up, but to my extreme pleasure it was just Emerson, lake, 
	and Palmer, and that was it!!!  The opener was (of course)
	Karn Evil, and I was amazed at the sound these 3 old dudes ;-)
	belted out, I just could not believe how well these guys jammed.
	At some points I felt as if they were improvisational, and 
	other times they sounded just like the albums.  The keyboard
	setup was phoenominal, apparently the same technical mish
	mosh they used all throughout the seventies on their elaborate
	world tours.  At one point the whole keyboard set up spun 
	around and Emerson came out with a little old fashion organ
	throwing it around the stage and playing it in strange positions,
	At one point he had the keyboard on top of him as he played it 
	upside down.  Some songs were acoustic, some electric, but they 
	all sounded great!  Lucky Man was done excellent, as well as
	From the Beginning(????) .  They covered just about everything
	that I wanted to hear except for You Turn Me On and one other,
	which I can't remember the name.  A superior show, I'd recommend
	this show to the novice as well as the expert ELPhead.  The jams
	really can get going.  The fact that theres only drums, bass,
	and keys really brings forth a unique, medieval, magical, mystical, 
	sound   
85.332AIMHI::KELLERI'm not broke, I'm on a financial dietThu Jul 30 1992 15:167
It sounds like a great show. i wish I could have made it down but there is a 
severe lack of funds in our household so concerts have been non-existant. I've 
been an ELP fan for many many years. 

Glad to hear you had a good time.

Geoff
85.333EBBV03::SMITHwe were meant to be hereThu Jul 30 1992 16:099
>>It sounds like a great show. i wish I could have made it down but there is a 
>>severe lack of funds in our household so concerts have been non-existant. I've 
>>been an ELP fan for many many years. 

They'll probably be back as long as the band can keep on good terms, last 
nights show was filmed from beginning to end, so you may be able to catch
it on the tube sometime.

ELPheads are truely a strange breed (I was there wasn't I? ;-)
85.334reviewJUNCO::DWESTif wishes were horses...Mon Aug 03 1992 13:3843
    well, since MJ asked elsewhere if we were all asleep or something
    since no one was writing a BobandRob review, i thought i'd put one
    here...  
    
    contrary to my usual rambling self, i will make this one as brief
    and accurate as possible...
    
    	"it was good..."
    
    					da ve
    
    
    
    oh...  maybe too brief...  here's a longer and more complete one...
    
    	"it was very good..."     :^)
    
    					da ve 
    
    
    
    still not satisfied????
    
    it was the best BobandRob show of the three that i have seen...  yes,
    Bobby played Misty...  :^)  no fever...  i thought Victim was a little
    lame but the rest of thier set was good...
    
    i give the "most talented preformer" award to Bruce Cockburn...  Hogan 
    and /Billy would both have approved...  (i pick on the cuz / is picky,
    and Hogan is finger-picky...  :^)
    
    Michelle Shocked wins the coveted "most entertaining performer"
    award...  most awesome!!!!  that woman has a talent the size of her
    home state of texas!!
    
    sorry i can't fill in any set list stuff...  i didn't keep one (as
    usual)...  Michelle had her band with her (well, a bass, mandolin, and
    lead player n e way)...  Bruce was solo...  Michelle and Bruce joined
    Bob and Rob on stage for the finale...  a nice Weight and Spoonful...
    
    now if i could just wake up...
    
    					da ve
85.335CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenMon Aug 03 1992 13:5720

 What da ve said...Michelle was excellent.  The highlight of the show for me. 
 I'd been wanting to see her for a long time and she made it worth the wait.
 I'd never seen Bruce Cockburn before and to be honest the only tune with which
 I was familiar was "Waiting for a Miracle", but I enjoyed his set.

 I agree this Bob and Rob was the best of the 3 I've seen.  The choice of mater-
 ial was a bit better.  Would have liked to hear Twilight Time, but Misty was
 just fine :-)



 Only dechead I saw (other than those in our bunch) was da ve...





 Jum waiting for a coffee buzz
85.336KOBAL::MROGERSMon Aug 03 1992 14:0631
    This was one of the better Bob n Rob shows that I've seen, but for 
    me Michelle Shocked stole the show. She was excellent! Same for Bruce
    Cockburn. Both of them will be playing at the Newport Folk Festival
    on Saturday and I'm tempted to go based on their performances last
    night!
    
    Bob n Rob's setlist from memory is as follows:
    
    Walking Blues>
    Take Me To the River
    Crazy Road (?)
    ???? (don't have a clue as to what this one was)
    Eternity
    Fly Away
    Out on the Streets>
    Heaven Help the Fool>
    He Who Travels the Fastest>
    Heaven Help the Fool
    Wasserman solo that started out with Somewhere Over the Rainbow and
    then went into a smoking Spoonful jam>
    Victim or the Crime>
    Throwing Stones
    
    encores:
    Misty 
    The Weight with Michelle Shocked and Bruce Cockburn joining in
    Spoonful with Michelle and Bruce
    
    Hot sets from everyone last night!
    
    Mike
85.337CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenMon Aug 03 1992 14:5112

 Wasn't Maggie's farm in there somewhere?  As I recall that was pretty hot :-/








 Jum
85.338KOBAL::MROGERSMon Aug 03 1992 14:555
    >>Wasn't Maggie's farm in there somewhere?  As I recall that was pretty
    >>hot :-/
    
    Yup, that was after Fly Away. See what happens when you try to do this
    before your second cup of coffee???:-)
85.339CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenMon Aug 03 1992 15:1721

RE:                      <<< Note 85.338 by KOBAL::MROGERS >>>

       
   > Yup, that was after Fly Away. See what happens when you try to do this
   > before your second cup of coffee???:-)




   That's the only reason I remembered it myself..the second cup seemed to have
   awoken the sleeping brain cells..He Who Travels fastest was also pretty good
   now that I'm awake.







85.340MR4MI2::REHILLVisualize Whirled PeasMon Aug 03 1992 16:4911
    I'll just agree with everyone. I really enojyed Bruce Cockburn. I
    heard his Rocket Launcher song a few years ago, and got that CD.
    He's quite an interesting singer/song write.
    
    I'd also like to say the me, my DAT deck, my mics and my
    tapes all made it inside, Unfortunately, my batteries did not,
    so I have not tapes of the shows.
    
    Sniff,
    
    
85.341KOBAL::MROGERSMon Aug 03 1992 17:004
    On a slightly negative note, did anyone else notice how muddy the sound
    was list night inside the pavilion? We were in Section 2 and the vocals
    were pretty garbled, but up on the hill the sound seemed much cleaner,
    at least during Bruce's set.
85.342AWECIM::RUSSOclaimin!Mon Aug 03 1992 17:598
    
    
    re .341
    
    I've always found that to be the case at Great Woods.  The sound is
    better on the lawn.  Clearer.
    
    Hogan
85.343Hogan,.. how fingerpicky are you? :-0STAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Mon Aug 03 1992 18:3839
	re da ve

>    i give the "most talented preformer" award to Bruce Cockburn...  Hogan 
>    and /Billy would both have approved...  (i pick on the cuz / is picky,
>    and Hogan is finger-picky...  :^)

	:-)

	Picky?!?!? WHo me?!?!?!

	:-)

	Well,. I didi approve da ve ... I didn't see you but I was there.
	I ran into Mystery down in row H there and he pointed out where you were
	,.. or rather where you were supposed to be but we couldn't see you.
	I had to move away from Mystery because I am much too bodacious
	a person to be hanging around someone who is trying to tape a concert
	without any batteries :-) :-) ;-)

	I thought Bruce did real weel for not having a band with him.
	But I was really disappointed that he didn't have a backing.
	Anyway,... I agree,... he is quite talented,.. which is why
	THE KIND is now covering some of his stuff (I already was into
	Mr. Cockburn thanks to Maxpropht's (the band that almost was)
	lead singer) so I've been digging Bruce myself for a while.
	Check out the tune "Stolen Land" while you're ccelebrating American
	History sometime :-/ :-/...

	And ,.. um,. I think it was Adam who suggested that Jerry
	may have co-authored "Waiting for a Miracle" (Hey,.. whats
	Bruce covering a Jerry tune for anyway?!?!),.. but,..
	I don't think thats the case. As far as I can remember Jerry's
	name does not appear in the credits. Besides,.. Bruce said a
	"kindly man" helped him write it,.. that must be ME!!!!! (tyah right!)

	I could be wrong,.. maybe Jerry did help Bruce write Waiting
	for a Miracle,.. but as far as I know thats not the case.

						/Soko
85.344Boston Herald review excerpts, 03 Aug 92GR8FUL::WHITEWithout love in a dream...Mon Aug 03 1992 19:0127
	The Boston Herald, an authoritative publication if ever there was
	one, doesn't share y'all's enthusiasm for last night's show.  The
	headline of the article is "Weir lacks spirit without the Dead".
	Some samples from the review:

	"Stripped of that luxurious backing [the Grateful Dead], Weir was
	 somewhat OK..."

	"But when Weir took on classics like "Misty" or "Witchcraft", for 
	 example, the results rivaled bad karaoke."

	"Listening him try to nail a tough note was like watching a 
	 bumblebee attempting to land on a clover.  He'd buzz around the
	 target a few times, sometimes land, sometimes zoom away, and
	 sometimes not even come close."

	"Other minijams created short bursts of energy the quickly went 
	 limp."

	They did like Bruce Cockburn and Michelle Shocked: "Both Shocked 
	and Cockburn had superior sets."

	For what it's worth...

	Bob_who_was_not_there

85.345the Dead are Bobby's backup band! :^)JUNCO::DWESTif wishes were horses...Mon Aug 03 1992 19:2625
    while watching Bobby doing his bit, i kept thinking that "if only we
    could take him as a performing artist on his own without the shadow of
    the Dead hanging over him, he'd probably be considered to be a bit
    better than he is today"...  meaning, without the dead we always look
    at him as a "wanna-be"...  with the dead we give him a hard time about
    being the "rock star"...
    
    it seemed to me that Bobby, while not the most talented person on that
    stage anyway, was doing pretty well for himself...
    
    then he started doing more dead-type stuff and i decided it was
    hopeless...  :^)  he'll always be "Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead"
    and never again just plain ol' Bob Weir...  he does it to himself...
    :^(
    
    "luxurious backing"???? ha!  since when did the herald become fans of
    the boys?  :^)  too bad you missed it this time Bob...  i suspect you
    would have enjoyed it...  i found it to be an almost coffee-house-ish
    kind of evening...
    
    and i agree with whoever (Mike Rogers?) had said that they were
    disappointed in the sound...  i'm noticing that more and more at this
    venue...  too bad...
    
    					da ve
85.346Weir should stick to trying to be a rock star ...CUPTAY::BAILEYSeason of the WinchMon Aug 03 1992 19:2911
    >> 	"But when Weir took on classics like "Misty" or "Witchcraft", for 
    >>	 example, the results rivaled bad karaoke."
    
    I can't say first-hand, but I've got some Bob & Rob filler from last
    year, and I've heard better versions of "Misty" coming from a locker
    room shower.
    
    It's enough to make you want to cry, but for all the wrong reasons.
    
    ... Bobbb
    
85.347SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Mon Aug 03 1992 19:379
I couldn't find which note it was that someone was laughing about
Bobby doing Sinatra tunes.  Well, it's really quite natural for
him to do Sinatra tunes since Bobby is a Sinatra fan.  My housemate
spotted him in second row center (?) of a Sinatra concert out here
recently (yes, my housemate is a Sinatra fan *and* a Deadhead <tm>
8-).

peace,
t!ng
85.348who can blame him?CSCMA::M_PECKARspinning that curious senseMon Aug 03 1992 19:454
Yes, I too, am a fan, sorry to have to admit it...

Fog_who_has_as_almost_as_many_sinatra_albums_as_dead_albums,_maybe_more.
85.349LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureMon Aug 03 1992 19:547
you shouldn't be sorry Fog, you should be proud!  Old blue eyes shattered
many a knees (including my Mom's!) in his heyday and is still making quite
an impression on many of the children of those women (including me!)  :-)

Lisa

85.350...STAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Mon Aug 03 1992 20:0012
    Its OK to admit you're a Sinatra fan,..
    
    But ,. to admit you're a fan of Bobby doing Sinatra,. now that
    is something quite different indeed! :-) :-)
    
    I think da ve said what I was thinking,.. like its too bad that
    we can't take Bob more serious when he breaks into something like
    Misty,.... for all I know he sang an excellent version,.. if only
    I could have stopped laughing long enough to listen :-)
    
    							/bad_boy
    
85.351CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenMon Aug 03 1992 21:317

 Being the Bobby fan that I am I loved Misty, and someo of the other stuff
 he did..the struts out to the edge of the stage, the screams :-)


 Vintage Bobby :-)
85.352chicago!!! :^)JUNCO::DWESTif wishes were horses...Tue Aug 04 1992 12:4510
    i enjoy Misty too...  sure the camp factor is high, but it's fun(ny)!
    
    at least he isn't throwing in a bunch of "hey!"s or "scooby dooby"s
    when he forgets the words like Franky...  :^)
    
    i wanna hear him sing "chic-ago chic-ago, that toddlin' town!"
    			:^)  :^)  :^)
    
    					da ve_who_could_use_a_trip_to_
    					chicago_today :^)
85.353CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenTue Aug 04 1992 16:083

  How bout a duo with Michelle doing "something stupid"? :-)
85.354its a little stupiddy and it goes like thisSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Tue Aug 04 1992 16:556
    Hey Jum
    
    	Hum a few bars of "something stupid" for us will ya? :-) ;-)
    
    							/Jum_buster
    
85.355CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenTue Aug 04 1992 17:3210


 Hum hum hum hum /  hum hum hum hum/ hum hum hum hum / hum hum hum hum





 I think that's it :-)
85.356:-)STAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Tue Aug 04 1992 19:5510
    No,,, you're confused Jum :-)
    
    That was the melody to "Something extermely stupid",..
    
    We're looking for the melody to just plain old "Something Stupid"...
    
    .. next contestant...
    
    							/:-0
    
85.357CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenTue Aug 04 1992 20:019

 Well, I haven't hummed it in a while...my hummer's a little rusty :-)



 The song, for those of you not old enough to remember, was a duo that 
Frank did with Nancy Sinatra...sticks in my mind cuz my then toddlin' sister
would go around singing it all the time :-/
85.358HummmmmmmmmmEZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedTue Aug 04 1992 21:099
re:   <<< Note 85.357 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "I have a friend I've never seen" >>>

> Well, I haven't hummed it in a while...my hummer's a little rusty :-)

Yeah, but how's your voice?

:-)

(did you think there was even a *chance* I would let that one go by?)
85.359Chalk up a good one for Adam!!! :-) :-)STAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Wed Aug 05 1992 18:293
    :-)
    
    
85.360SKYLRK::TINGGive Peace a Chance!!!Wed Aug 05 1992 20:526
Gee, seems like Jerry's been opening 2nd set with an awful lot of
"Shining Star"'s!  I wonder if that's *his* song for the birthday
shows.

peace,
t!ng
85.361EBBCLU::SMITHwe were meant to be hereWed Aug 05 1992 23:106
    
    
    Shining Star is me fav JGB cover song.....
    
    Who wrote this wonderful song?
    
85.362CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenThu Aug 06 1992 01:2410

 Uh oh...I think we had trouble with that one once before :-/






Jum
85.363Carlos and Phish at SMPACCAMONE::HURLBURTWed Aug 12 1992 14:1222
re Phish and Santana

Haven't really read anything in here since May (YIKES!) but a had to come in
and see what people had to say about this show. First, I was at ZKO for training
the week he played in Nashua but since I hadn't been reading the file I didn't
even know he was playing.  Ended up sittin in my room at the Sheraton Tara
reading :^/  Found about he was there the next morning after I got down to the
lobby and noticed all these Santana tour jackets around.  Next thing I know
Carlos steps out of the elevator!  Anyway, I end up talking to one of the tour
guys and find out that they're playing on Saturday (7/25) at the Stowe Moutain
Performing Arts Center (the base of Spruce Peak).  Got there a little late but
when we got in Carlos was jamming with Phish near the end of their set.  He and
the guitar player for Phish were trading off solos.  Then during Carlos' set, 
he called out "the hometown boys" for a very long intense jam!  It was 
absolutely smoking.  I guess that's what some of you were looking for 
elsewhere ;^)  I love Carlos but I was REAL impressed by the guitar player
for Phish!

chuck

Oh yeah, it was make sense that the fall tour gets cancelled since I got 
decent tix for Boston this year :^/
85.364CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenWed Aug 12 1992 14:1816
RE:                     <<< Note 85.363 by CAMONE::HURLBURT >>>
                         -< Carlos and Phish at SMPAC >-


>Oh yeah, it was make sense that the fall tour gets cancelled since I got 
>decent tix for Boston this year :^/



 Uh, I don't think the tour has been cancelled as of yet..the onsale date was
delayed however, which could be cause for concern I suppose.




Jum
85.365'on sale date' means WHAT?CIVIC::ROBERTSa blinding flash o'the obviousWed Aug 12 1992 18:494
    so does the on sale date refer to the availability of tix through
    ticketbooths?
    
    c
85.366CSLALL::HENDERSONI have a friend I've never seenWed Aug 12 1992 18:5410


 Yep...like through TicketPro for Boston Garden..






85.367Clapton at Great Woods 8/17MR4DEC::WENTZELLIfMusicBeTheFoodOfLove,PlayOn!!!Tue Aug 18 1992 16:3125
Eric Clapton, Great Woods, Mansfield, MA
August 17, 1992

White Room
Pretending
Anything For Your Love
I Shot the Sheriff
Running on Faith
She's Waiting
Tears in Heaven (acoustic)
Before You Accuse Me
Old Love
Badge
Wunnerful Tonight
Layla (electric "traditional" version)

E: CrossRoads->
   Sunshine of Your Love->
   Drumz->
   Sunshine closing

The show was just over 2 1/4 hours



85.368ZENDIA::FERGUSONRoll me awayMon Sep 28 1992 14:5442
Deb, my friend Joe, and I went to see "Bluestime" at the Sit N Bull this
past Friday.

This is a new band that has J. Giles on guitar and Magic Dick on vocal/harp.
As a result, everyone and your brother wanted to see this show.  This was
only their second gig "out".

Great music.  They played 50s blues tunes.  The band was obviously well
practiced as their music was played very well.  J. Giles is no Ronnie Earl
on guitar, but, he did play the blues quite well.  He mostly played one of
his Gibson Les Pauls; he played his strat on one number and he played some
slide using his telecaster on another number.  He appeared to be most
confortable w/ the Les Paul.

Magic Dick has a great voice and the ability to control it perfectly.  
He's also one hell of a harp player!  Having seen a number of blues harp 
players in the last 4 years, i can safely say that he is #1 that I have
seen live.  The words to the songs just seemed to flow out
of his mouth with ease.  He was candid with the audience as well, but,
kept a low profile and kept the entire show focused on the blues.

the bass player, who I recognise from somewhere else but can't remember
where, was hot also.  He played a standup bass for the most part.  He also
jammed out on a few solos.  In addition to vocals/harp, lead guitar, and
bass, they also had a drummer and a rythm guitarist (he played an older 50s?
gibson hollow body electric).  No keyboards.

One thing that really appealed to me was the fact that they delivered great
music with no showboating.  I got the impression that they wanted to rid
themselves of their "J. Giles Band" former fame and start up a new act.
They didn't hop all around the stage or come off as having a big ego because 
they we once famous - they just played and played tight.

This band was tighter then outfits that have been together for years.  I
was very surprised by that.  Obviously professional musicians.

If you are a blues fan, this is the band to check out.  If they stick it out,
I reckon that they'll be extremely hot in 6 mons time.

"Bluestime" is the name of the act.

/JC
85.369CXDOCS::BARNESMon Sep 28 1992 15:575
    is Magic Dick the original harp player for J Giles Band? 
    
    Say "hey" to Joe for me JC. 
    
    rfb
85.370packed to the roof!ZENDIA::FERGUSONRoll me awayMon Sep 28 1992 17:5510
re                      <<< Note 85.369 by CXDOCS::BARNES >>>

>    is Magic Dick the original harp player for J Giles Band? 
 
I believe he is, however, I'm no J. Giles Band expert.  I used to like the
J. Giles Band when I was in H.S. and early college daze.... I never much got
into who was who - i was more into the tunez.....


one hell of a hot show on friday though ....
85.371STAR::HUGHESCaptain SlogTue Sep 29 1992 16:195
    As you said, one hell of a hot show.
    
    Thanks again for the info about the show and tickets.
    
    gary
85.372Dire Straits 9/29, Nimes, FranceMR4DEC::WENTZELLIfMusicBeTheFoodOfLove,PlayOn!!!Wed Sep 30 1992 13:3314
Anyone have the setlist for the Dire Straits simulcast that was on last 
night.  I taped it from the radio (missed the first song or two though) but
don't know many of the titles.  First time I've used my HiFi VCR to tape from 
the radio, came out quite good!

And WZLX just couldn't do the whole thing, ohhhhh no.  They broke into 
commercials at one point in the second set so I checked the TV and although it 
was scrambled (pay per view) I could tell they were still playing.  I think 
ZLX cut out at least one song to run commercials, then the guy comes back on 
and says "well, look like the band is taking the stage again..." - duhhhhh, 
they've already been playing for at least 10 minutes!.  Their number was busy 
and I couldn't get through to complain...

Scott
85.373TLE::ABBOTJ. R. &quot;Bob&quot; Dobbs in 92Wed Sep 30 1992 15:2217
    They may not have cut anything in the second set.  I doubt the show was
    live since they would have had to take the stage at about 4am in
    France.  Am a little po'ed that they were so out of it as to keep
    playing Santana 2 or 3 minutes into the show, and then suddenly cutting
    into the first song with no announcement.
    
    Anyhow, I have a tape but haven't done a list yet, except for the
    encores.
    
    Looks like the next simulcast will be the big Dylan tribute on October
    16.  George Harrison's first show in the US in 18 years!
    
    BTW, anyone know if WBCN is planning any Tull broadcasts?  I'll be
    listening just in case.
    
    Scott
    
85.374ANGLIN::GEBHARTMet her accidentally in St.Paul, MNWed Sep 30 1992 18:548
    My wife taped it - I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet but they
    opened with "calling Elvis" i think.  I was listening to a little on
    the way home from softball in the car - we thought the fans were out of
    control here - I could not believe all the yells and wistles that came
    through on the radio broadcast during the songs - very inconsiderate.
    
    :-)
    Scott g
85.375EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedWed Sep 30 1992 19:4019
Yes, the radio broadcast definitely cut into a song in the 2nd set.  I was
monitoring WBCN, and after a particular song, the DJ started talking and said
they'd be right back, and went to commercial.  I was also watching the TV
broadcast (scrambled, but you could still make out an image) and it was obvious
they had not left the stage.  Luckily, all I had to do was push a button on my
amp and my tape deck immediately got its feed from the VCR instead of the
tuner.  The band then broke right into a song.  I was lucky to be listening at
this point since I believe I got everything with no cuts or missed notes.  My
HiFi VCR still had a nice stereo audio signal coming out of it even though the
video was trashed.  After the song was over, I flipped back to my tuner since
its signal was more reliable.

WBCN actually played a studio cut after the commercial, to 'complete' the
interruption!

I don't know the name of the song that was cut, but it's one from their early
career and is a hot one!

adam
85.376STUDIO::IDECan't this wait 'til I'm old?Thu Oct 01 1992 11:546
    Adam, if you've got a hi-fi VCR why were you bothering to record the
    show on cassette?  You could've put the whole thing on less than 1 tape
    and gotten better quality to boot.  Plus, you don't have to use Dolby
    like you do with cassettes.  ~/~
    
    Jamie
85.377EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedThu Oct 01 1992 15:0420
re:       <<< Note 85.376 by STUDIO::IDE "Can't this wait 'til I'm old?" >>>

>    Adam, if you've got a hi-fi VCR why were you bothering to record the
>    show on cassette?  You could've put the whole thing on less than 1 tape
>    and gotten better quality to boot.  Plus, you don't have to use Dolby
>    like you do with cassettes.  ~/~

The reason is, the pay-per-view broadcat, being scrambled, is not a reliable
signal.  It suffers from somewhat-frequent dropouts, which result in the screen
going blank and the audio making an awful sound before and after cutting out. 
These dropouts come when the stuff on the video contains captions, or
extraordinary changes in brightness.  I only used it when I had to (to get that
song the radio cut, and to re-record Sultans of Swing on the PPV replay at
midnight, since my tape ran out for the original broadcast).

Of course, these problems go away if you actually *pay* for the broadcast.  I
did not, but have the ability to receive the scrambled video and the shaky
audio for free.

adam
85.378Dire Straits set list, Nimes, France, 9/29/92EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedThu Oct 01 1992 15:0836
Oh, and here's the incomplete set list:

Dire Straits, Nimes, France 9/29/92

I

Calling Elvis
Walk of Life
Heavy Fuel
Romeo and Juliet
The Bug
My Investigation
Sultans of Swing

(12-minute intermission)

II

???
On Every Street
???
Telegraph Road
???
???
Money For Nothing

encores:
???
Solid Rock
???

(the radio cut a song in the second set.  Still don't know what it is :-()

If someone can fill in the blanks, I'd be grateful.

adam
85.379STUDIO::IDECan't this wait 'til I'm old?Thu Oct 01 1992 15:2316
re:   <<< Note 85.377 by EZRIDR::SIEGEL "The revolution wil not be televised" >>>

>The reason is, the pay-per-view broadcat, being scrambled, is not a reliable
>signal.  It suffers from somewhat-frequent dropouts, which result in the screen
>going blank and the audio making an awful sound before and after cutting out. 
    
    I meant record the FM signal on the VCR, but it sounds like yours needs
    a video signal for sync?  I do it all the time, every Monday night in
    fact to record the GD Hour off WBCN.
    
    I've even recorded the video with the FM signal on the hi-fi tracks. 
    This worked great for Clapton's Unplugged -- I got MTV's video with
    WBCN's simulcast signal (which was much better than MTV's, at least on
    my cable).
    
    Jamie
85.380EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedThu Oct 01 1992 16:2523
re:       <<< Note 85.379 by STUDIO::IDE "Can't this wait 'til I'm old?" >>>

>    I meant record the FM signal on the VCR, but it sounds like yours needs
>    a video signal for sync?  I do it all the time, every Monday night in
>    fact to record the GD Hour off WBCN.

I *can* record, onto HiFi VHS, straight FM stereo from my tuner (I've got the
past 2 new year's shows from WBUR this way).  It's great for unattended, long
broadcasts.  I chose to just use cassettes since I was at home and able to
record it myself.  I avoid HiFi VCR unless I really need it.  I prefer the
convenience of cassettes (even if the quality is arguably worse).

>    I've even recorded the video with the FM signal on the hi-fi tracks. 
>    This worked great for Clapton's Unplugged -- I got MTV's video with
>    WBCN's simulcast signal (which was much better than MTV's, at least on
>    my cable).

I don't have a separate audio dub input on my VCR.  I do have 2 other inputs
(A+V) on my VCR, but I'd need some way of converting coax cable to an RCA plug
(easy enough, I'm sure).  THen I could do it.  I also recorded Unplugged, but I
just used MTV's stereo on the cable wire, which was acceptable.

adam
85.381Rock Lobster!CXDOCS::BARNESWed Oct 28 1992 16:1123
    Weelll, this ole hippy did something strange last nite...and i see it
    as only the beginning...
    
    Patty and I took our 15 yr old Tiffany and her friend to their second
    concert ever...Violent Femmes and B-52's, in Denver. Funny Stuff!! 
    I expected there to be a lot of 
    "wierd" types...hardly any! Some of the young girls dressed ala 60's
    were funny...Some good dancin though!
    The Femmes (who my kid went to see) were ok.."Blister in the SUn"
    The B-52's were a gas! 
    Psychedelic stage lighting and backdrops, the 2 chicks CAN DANCE!!!
    The male singer has a voice that is sterotypical gay, if ya know what I
    mean. (No offense to anyone, just trying to describe him) So his song
    intros were funny as hell. When the song ROME was performed, whenever
    the chorus came around, 5 peopel dressed as vataican officials or popes 
    came out on the stage and did a little dance...an answer to Sinad???
    The rythem/percussion section was grate! all in all an interesting nite
    for a deadhead..(BTW, the tixs were free from a radio station) %^)
    
    LOVE SHACK, BABY!!!!!
    
    rfb
    
85.382anything to add dc? :-)LEDS::MRNGDU::YETTOdiscover the wonders of natureWed Oct 28 1992 16:256
glad you enjoyed the B-52's rfb!!  I have always loved them, ever since I
saw them at the Peir and other local spots when they started out in NYC over
10 years ago.  The women - Kate and Cindy can really sing huh!  Definitely a
worth while show in my book!!

85.38353 miles west of VenusTLE::ABBOTJumbo Hunderglitz in '92Wed Oct 28 1992 16:427
    I thought Kate quit the band.
    
    Can't say I'm a follower of them these days, last album I bought was
    "Mesopotamia", which I thought was very underrated.
    
    Scott
    
85.384VMPIRE::CLARKleave your stepping stones behindWed Oct 28 1992 16:443
I think it was Cindy that quit the band.

- dc	"folks linin' UP outside just to get doooooooooooooooooooooooown"
85.385CXDOCS::BARNESWed Oct 28 1992 16:564
    The chick with the long red hair is still in the b-52's. The new girl
    sure CAN DANCE!!!!!
    
    rfb
85.386Julie Brown?KOBAL::MROGERSDARE to keep your kids off the GOPWed Oct 28 1992 17:183
    I can't remember her name but read somewhere that the new woman singing
    with the B-52s also either sang the Twin Peaks theme or was on the show
    itself. I think her name is Julie Brown.
85.387CXDOCS::BARNESWed Oct 28 1992 17:314
    julie doesn't ring abell with me after the introductions last nite.....
    but i was in my own private idaho......
    
    rfb
85.388fountain of wisdom of things I know little about ;-)SMURF::PETERTWed Oct 28 1992 17:4612
    Not Julie Brown (in reponse to the woman who did the Twin Peaks stuff.
    She did the music, and was in the show at one point as the house 
    band at the local bar) I believe her name is Julie Cruise (sp?).
    There's a Julie Brown on MTV (which I don't watch so I just 
    know from TV listings), and a Julie Brown with red hair who has done
    such memorable songs as "The Homecoming Queen's Got a Gun".  The latter
    one has also done an (HBO?) special spoofing Madonna (which I haven't
    seen either ;-) and was sometimes on the "Newhart" show as a TV
    personality.  But I really couldn't tell you who's in the B-52's.
    
    PeterT
    
85.389MTV has 2 Julie Brown's...ROULET::DWESTif wishes were horses...Wed Oct 28 1992 19:364
    the Julie Brown on MTV ("just say julie" not "downtown julie brown")
    is the same one who did the spoof tunes...
    
    					da ve
85.390:-)BOOKIE::BOOSWed Oct 28 1992 19:576
  >>whenever the chorus came around, 5 peopel dressed as vataican 
  >>officials or popes came out on the stage and did a little dance

  I can just picture them dancing B52-style.  What a trip!

  -helen
85.391STUDIO::IDECan't this wait 'til I'm old?Thu Oct 29 1992 11:223
    I can't believe I know this: it's Julee Cruise.
    
    Jamee
85.392seems like the right topic for this quest.SMURF::PETERTThu Oct 29 1992 18:557
    Is there a listing of the setlist from the Dylan tribute back on 
    the 16th?  I think I saw one but I can't remember if it was in here
    or on r.m.gdead.
    
    Thanks,
    PeterT
    
85.393It's in thereMR4DEC::WENTZELLJust a little sweetnessThu Oct 29 1992 19:0410
    >Is there a listing of the setlist from the Dylan tribute back on 
    >the 16th?  I think I saw one but I can't remember if it was in here
    >or on r.m.gdead.
    
 
See note 143.124

And I'm still looking for a VHS copy  8^)

Scott
85.394guess I should have dir/title=dylan, eh?SMURF::PETERTThu Oct 29 1992 19:105
    Thanks.  I knew someone knew this ;-)  Now to figure out how much
    I actually caught on tape (and how much I screwed up :-(
    
    PeterT
    
85.395Santana/Third World in NYCTERAPN::PHYLLISin the shadow of the moonFri Nov 06 1992 14:4417
    I caught a great Santana/Third World show at the Paramount Theater last
    night.  Typically hot, smoldering hot, Carlos.  I think I fall in love
    with him each time I hear him play.. and this was a good one. :-)  I
    didn't write anything down, but he played a good mix of old and new,
    with lots and lots of percussion.  We had great seats, right on an
    aisle, so unrestrained boogying was easy.  Third World only played
    about a 45 minute open (and we missed 15 before we even knew they were
    on) so we were psyched when they came out to play later on.  Great big
    spirited jam of Exodus and Get Up Stand Up.  Anybody feel the 
    vibrations? I know they made it farther than those four walls. :-)

    They're here again tonight (wonder if there'll be any cheap tickets on
    the street..) - if they're headed your way next, do yourself a favor
    and go!
    

85.396Bela at Wetlands!!TERAPN::PHYLLISin the shadow of the moonWed Nov 11 1992 13:2334
    well.. I finally got a chance to catch Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
    last night and all I can say is:

    I WANT TAPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  (pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease!!!)

    These guys are *amazing*!!  I know the top of my head blew off at least
    6 or 7 times last night.  What fun!  And so different from anything
    else I've ever heard.  I felt like I was participating in this great
    new chemistry experiment, where someone had mixed together all this
    stuff that'd been lying around the lab for years and just hadn't been
    put together the right way before.  Wetlands was *very* crowded, but
    luckily we secured some great space right up at the stage for the 1st
    set where we could dance (a little), but more importantly, see really
    well.  Usually, I couldn't care less if I can see what's going on (I
    dance with my eyes closed anyway ;-), but not this time! It's so wild
    to watch what they're doing up there.  I kept wanting to jump up on
    stage and play with them.. it looked so fun!  I  definately want one of
    those drum things. :-)  Bela said that this week in NY was a type of
    experiment.  They were playing 5 different types of clubs, one each
    night this week, and they were gonna try and be a different type of
    band each night.  So, at the Blue Note on Monday they were a little
    jazzier, last night at Wetlands, a little trippier, tonight at SOBs, a
    little more Brazilian, (I missed what he said about Thursday at the
    Knitting Factory), and a little more bluegrass on Friday at the Lone
    Star (where the yeehaw factor should be the highest :-).  Does the
    bassist always do a 'rap' song, or was that a NYC special?  

    In case anyone'll be in NYC this weekend, I'll probably be going
    again on Friday.  

    So, who's in the mood to be bugged for tapes?  :-) :-) :-)


85.397CXDOCS::BARNESWed Nov 11 1992 14:554
    tapes i have of Bella from Calif and what I heard of Telluride
    BlueGrass Fest have the bass player rapping too. 
    
    rfb
85.398CSCMA::M_PECKARfast times at Decnet HighThu Nov 12 1992 14:316
Personally, All the Bela material I've heard is very similar to the British 
Fusion wave of the late '70's early '80's; very much like Brand-X and other 
contemporary amalgrams of the the Eno crowd.

Scott, doncha think? It is very good, and very originalk, but not unique, IMO.
85.399SCOONR::GLADUThu Nov 12 1992 16:057
    re: Bela
    
>Scott, doncha think? It is very good, and very originalk, but not unique, IMO.

    You don't call a band with an electric banjo and a one-of-a-kind drumitar 
    unique? Not to mention Futureman. Why, he hasn't even been born yet. :-)
    
85.400TLE::ABBOTNo more yearsThu Nov 12 1992 16:5112
    You could probably lump them in with Brand X, Soft Machine, etc, for
    the lack of any better category.  But I don't think they're copying
    anyone.  If you listen to Newgrass Revival you'll hear Bela working on
    his style, also he picked up a lot of banjo weirdness from Tony
    Trischka.
    
    One thing I'd like to ask Bela, but he might find insulting, is if he
    really sang with NGR.  He gets vocal credit on the albums, but he never
    even spoke at NGR shows.  I think he just moved his lips.
    
    Scott
    
85.401Da...Boston, not so badTLE::ABBOTNo more yearsTue Nov 17 1992 14:4824
    Set list for Bela Fleck & the Flecktones at Berklee, 11-15-92
    
    Asterisks refer to the album the tune is from:
    * - their first (eponymous) album
    ** - Flight of the Cosmic Hippo
    *** - UFO Tofu
    
    
    Blu-Bop **
    Magic Fingers ***
    band intros
    Flying Saucer Dudes **
    Flipper *
    Sex In a Pan ***
    Bonnie & Slyde ***
    jazz jam (not on any album)
    True North ***
    UFO Tofu ***
    Life Without Elvis ***
    
    encore:
    Sinister Minister *
    Tell It To The Guv'nor *
    
85.402CSLALL::HENDERSONWhistle while you workTue Nov 17 1992 15:327

 Coulda fooled me 



 Jum who didn't know any of the tunes they played :-)
85.403Thank you... for a real good time!ISLNDS::CONNORS_MMon Mar 01 1993 12:3615
    
    
    Great time Saturday night at "Chandlers" to see Slipknot!
    Wow, didn't even realize how badly I needed a slipknot fix!
    (Although it made my need for dead showz intensify x1000!)
    
    Nice to see a bunch of folks I haven't seen in a while too!!!
    
    I think now that March has arrived I'm beginning to come out
    of hibernation!  C'mon spring!  Or maybe it was all that dancing
    that got my blood flowing a bit stronger!  Whatever it was, 
    I feel good!  :-)  :-)
    
    
    MJ
85.404Wonderful Slipknot show on MondayNIMBUS::NIEDNERFri Jun 04 1993 22:0141
    
    
    Hi -
    
    I had the privilege and pleasure of attending the Slipknot show last
    Saturday, and (with prompting, as explained below) feel compelled to
    say "Thanks!" to the guys in the band publically.   What a show! 
    Please don't ask me for anything as structured as a review or a setlist
    -- my brain doesn't work that way at shows, even when it's *not*
    operating in "enhanced mode."   I've been meaning to see the band for
    several years, but never was organized enough to check out this file
    for schedules (again, more below) or suchlike.  Usually, my experience
    was driving by Chet's and seeing "Slipknot - Friday" on the sign and
    thinking "WONDERFUL," then realizing it was currently the following
    Monday, and thinking "Damn!"
    
    Well, it was worth the wait.  It felt like an enormous privilege to
    have a band as talented as you guys paying the (fairly small) crowd
    of us the compliment of so much attention, energy, talent, and time.
    'Rider,' in particular, really blew me away.  The first time the PA
    fuse blew (is that what happened?), and the keyboardist encouraged the
    crowd to crowd  to carry the song (was that 'One More Saturday Night?'
    ... my memory gets fuzzy quickly), I thought "What a wonderful
    gimmick to close a great show with!"   But that wasn't anywhere near
    the end of the show.  
    
    All in all, it was a great experience.  And to the gentlemen in the
    band, again, my heartfelt thanks for putting so much of yourselves into
    the show.
    
    Also, I met Debess (what's her full name?) at the show, and, when asked, 
    had to admit that I used this file only in a rather pragmatic way: mostly 
    to grub for tickets, in fact.  Well, Debess admonished me that that
    kind of behavior was bad for the general karma, and that I really ought
    to be a bit more sociable.  Well, my humble apologies to all.  I'll
    certainly try to be more respectful of the general karma in the future
    ...  ;^)
    
    					Carl
    
    
85.405excuse me NIMBUS::NIEDNERFri Jun 04 1993 22:024
    
    
    Oops, sorry, I meant Saturday...
    
85.406A good fix when you can't get tix.VOYAGR::SAMPSONDriven by the windMon Jun 07 1993 12:127
    Well then Carl, you should get yer butt over to Holden the Saturday
    after next and catch them at the Blue Plate. It's not that far a drive 
    if you've been driving past Chet's and a better space. The general
    concenseous is usually that the y get better every time for about the 
    first 50 shows you see. So you should get out and see them again. 
    
    Geoff
85.407THANKS!NAC::RILEYMon Jun 07 1993 13:1214
    
    
    Carl,
    
    What a great way to start of my last day here at DEC!  Come into work,
    start thinking about all the crap I have to deal with today (insurance,
    investor services, exit interviews, packing the office, etc...) and
    naturally I decide to start with GRATEFUL....  :^)
    
    Well, one of the first notes I see is yours...  BIG SMILE  :^))))
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Tree
85.408no, thank YOU!NIMBUS::NIEDNERWed Jun 09 1993 18:1117
    
    
    Well, Tree, I'm saddened to hear that you're leaving DEC (or have
    already left ...).   I wish you well, whatever comes next.
    
    And I plan to see as much Slipknot as I can.  The Whitinsville
    show sounds like a winner.  In response to .-2, I won't be seeing this
    Saturday's show because, I'm happy to report, a last-minute surprise
    has put me in the way of a Buckeye ticket for Friday. I'm going
    to chuck the nauseating politics of this place for a week of relaxation
    in my hometown (Granville, about 15 miles from the show), and an
    some musical refreshment.
    
    Gotta go, the westward road beckons.  Hope to see y'all soon.
    
    
    					Carl
85.409title, we don't need no steenking title..SMURF::PETERTrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyWed Jun 09 1993 19:096
    Whitinsville show?  Do you mean Jack's Saloon (which is in Uxbridge, 
    basically the next town over, or under ;-) or is there another 
    show in the area?
    
    PeterT
    
85.4107/17, Whitinsville Fish & Game?NIMBUS::NIEDNERFri Jun 18 1993 16:3230
    
    
    
    I saw a sign about a July outdoor show in Whitinsville at the Slip Into
    Summer show ... looks like 7/17 from the post I've reproduced below:
    
            <<< NECSC::SYS_CLUSTER:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GRATEFUL.NOTE;1 >>>
                 -< Take my advice, you'd be better off DEAD >-
================================================================================
Note 84.136                    Slipknot Schedules                     136 of 141
SALES::GKELLER "the patches make the goodbye harder" 16 lines  10-JUN-1993 09:25
                        -< rest of june and into july >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Next shows are next weekend.

6/18/93  Jack's Saloon, Rte 16b Uxbridge, MA
6/19/93  THe Blueplate, Rte 122A, Holden, MA

7/10/93  Sir Morgan's Cove, 89 Green St., Worcester
7/16/93  The Whitehorse Inn, Rte 101A, Milford, NH
7/17/93  The Whittensville F&G. Fundraiser for new outbuildings.  Show is 
	 1pm - 7pm.  Glass Onion will open for us and Buddy Cage will be 
	 playing with us.
7/30/93  The Plantation Club, 151 Plantation St., Worcester...


That's it for now,

Geoff
    
85.411Anyone heard of Laurie Sargeant?TRETOP::SAMILJANMon Jun 21 1993 14:1029
    Went to The Tam in Brookline on Saturday night.  Saw folk-type
    singer/guitar player Patty Griffin, who is pretty good as long as she
    keeps the set short.  (All her stuff tends to sound the same after 
    awhile.)  Not bad for an opener.
    
    But the second set was a woman named Laurie Sargeant (sp?), formerly of a
    somewhat successful local band called Face-to-Face. She was terrific, 
    as was her band.  Her music can probably classified as folk/rock, but 
    her influences seem as varied as Martha Davis (of The Motels), to Bonnie
    Raitt, to Melissa Etheridge, to the ladies of Motown.  Not only is she 
    a fine singer and performer, but her material is first-rate.  Almost
    all original songs, but they did an incredible cover version of "Son of
    a Preacher Man" that nearly took the house down.
    
    The band consists of her on a hollow-body electric guitar, a lead
    guitarist named Adam Steinberg (who is just great), a bass player,
    and drummer---all excellent.  In fact, they even brought on the sound
    man (who must be between bands) to play some lead guitar, and he was 
    just as good as the first guy, just a little more funky style. 
    
    This was a terrific take.  I'd encourage anyone to check them out if you
    get the chance.  I know they're playing somewhere in Easton this
    weekend, but that's all I know.  I'm sure they'd be listed in the 
    Calendar section of Thursday's Boston Globe.
    
    Boy, what a treat to take a chance on some new music and find such 
    a great act! 
    
    Bud
85.412 and she still has killer legs! 8^) BUSY::IRZAour only weapon is a songMon Jun 21 1993 14:4812
    
         laurie sargent is excellent. i first got into her back in the
      early eighties when shw was with face to face, had the confrontation
      cassette 'til my deck ate it 8^/. i think their biggest hit was "counting
      down", which was on their first recording. i think the face to face
      material is out of print, i don't recall seeing it in noteworhty. i
      saw the laurie sargent band once last year, haven't seen her
      advertised anywhere locally (i live towards rhode island) but
      if i do i'll probally catch her again. i remember she did a killer
      zeppelin cover to end her show. 
    
                                                            ^dave
85.413panama red is back in town!!!! :^)ESKIMO::DWESTif wishes were horses...Wed Jul 21 1993 12:4559
    
    well, now that i am dangerously close to being caught up i think i can
    throw in a few words here about the show i caught last week...
    
    PETER ROWAN!!!!!   :^) :^) :^)
    
    for me, this was one of those "i've been listening to his stuff for
    years but never saw him" shows...  wow...  i'm glad i got to check him
    out!
    
    Peter is quite a character...  he likes to have fun on stage no
    doubt...  VERY talented guitarist who got started playing with the
    legendary bluegrass master Bill Monroe...  Jerry fans ran into him
    in "old and in the way"...  his delivery of the songs can best be
    described as "loose"...  his special guest musician was having a hard
    time keeping up with him from time to time since he often digresses
    musically from the normal structure of the tune and leaves you
    scurrying to keep up...  Oz (my buddy and bass player) has played with
    him before on a number of occasions and he claims Peter needs a band
    with him to "keep him honest"...  otherwise who knows where he'll end
    up!  :^)
    
    i didn't keep a set list but he played a lot of his new album titled 
    "wake me in the new world"...  he claims that it's full of songs about
    his past life as a cabin boy for Christopher Columbus... :^)  also
    lot's of tunes from the album "dustbowl children" and several from 
    the "old and in the way" release...  the show started a little late
    (something that Peter is NOTORIOUS for) with him playing a lot of his
    new songs...  then he brought up his guest for the evening, Charles
    Sautelle (i think that's how it's spelled but i'm not sure)... 
    Charles may be known to some acoustic or bluegrass fans as the guitar
    man for the band Hot Rise...  very talented gent!  together they told
    some stories to took us on a little musical trip through time, and to
    some extent Peter's life and family history...  (the new album is 
    from one of his past lives, dustbowl children and some of his other
    albums are stories of his ancestors and characters he's met along the
    way)...
    
    some favorites for me were riding with the free mexican air force
    (yeeeehaaa!!) of which Oz is now an honorary pilot and the beautiful
    tune "wings of horses" (lyrics written by Peter's daughter)...  when
    asked from the audience about a reunion of old and in the way, Peter's
    response was "i'd love to get back together with David (Grisman) and
    Jerry (you-know-who! :^) but there's some other stuff we have to clear
    out of the way first", so who knows???  maybe someday???  between his
    beautiful clear voice, fantastic stories and wonderfu guitar work
    (strongly influenced by the spanish music of the southwest where he's
    been living for some time now) i may just have someone new to try and
    emulate! (yeh, right :^)...  also a talented mandolin and mandola
    picker...
    
    nice time in a cool place with a great crowd (many relatives and old
    friends were there since he grew up in Wayland)...  Peter went to play
    the Winterhawk festival and then was headed to the cape to the family
    place there for a few days off...  next time he swings through town,
    you can bet i'll be there...  if you lile acoustic music, you should
    be too!!
    
    					da ve  
85.414Peter Gabrial and Theatre Rock!CXDOCS::BARNESFri Jul 30 1993 21:5941
    just gettin around to this...
    
    Saw Peter Gabrial's Stage Extravaganza this week, just what I expected,
    Theatre rock! I know nothing about the backup band for this tour (heard
    someone say the bald-headed bass player was his brother, but don't
    really know) but they were hot. Did an excellent job on all the songs,
    old and new. I saw Gabrial when he -WAS- Genisis in 73 and 75, so I knew
    what to expect from him as far as theatrical rock goes. Some of the
    songs were down right funny in the stage production vein they were done
    in, like Shock the Monkey, many songs had deep meaning that the video
    production helped to convey,like Secrets or Secret Places whatever it's
    called, the psycodelic stuff was VERY, VERY
    intense (if ya get the obvious-drift), soetimes it was ll I could do to
    just say "whoa!"
    and the love songs were touching. He did 4 (i think) encores. 
    
    The stage was a big stage with a video screen behind that could flip so
    you saw segments of 2 videos at nearly the same time. That big stage
    was connnected to a smaller round stage by a 40 foot runway with a
    convetor belt in it. The band and Gabrial could dissapear under the
    stage/runway anytime they wanted to and reappear anywhere they wanted
    to, ala Penn and Teller. In fact, once Gabrial brought a large suitcase
    out on stage, layed it down and opened it, all band members jumped into
    the suitcase, Gabrial closed it up and dragged it off like the heavy
    band was inside. Too funny! 
    
    The opening song, Talk to ME, he sang the first half in a DR. Who type
    phone booth, then when he came out, he was singing into a phone. The
    cord kept pulling him backwards and he kept fighting against the cord,
    all the time on the moving conveyor belt. 
    
    Digging in the Dirt was intense, at the end the video screnn had a
    time-enhanced video that started when Gabrial was a baby, progressivly
    melted into pictures of his youth, teenager-hood, early manhood, to
    what he looks like now, then melted into a skull....this is one of the
    parts i said "Whoa!" (I noticed a lot of the crowd, not dead oriented
    of course, look at us when the comment was made "Those are good
    colors!" as well as giving me strange looks when I felt the urge to do
    my spazmodic-dance, go figger!) %^)
    
    I was much impressed.
85.415Wish we all were there...CARROL::YOUNGwhere is this place in space???Mon Aug 02 1993 12:473
    Whoa dude...sounds like a shrumin' good time to me....*;')
    
    Keep_on_dancin'_dugo
85.416Nice ReviewSALES::GKELLERThe 2nd guarantees the restMon Aug 02 1993 12:526
I'm envious:-)...

i love Peter Gabriel and he definitely puts on a great show.  Hopefully 
we'll get to see him again soon.

GEoff
85.417CXDOCS::BARNESMon Aug 02 1993 14:384
    Gabriel is coming back to Denver Sept 16 with an "ALL WORLD" tour.
    Outdoors, so it won't have the stage show, but should have some
    excellent regge/world-beat/soul sounds. 
    rfb
85.418HORDE/Allmans show at Stowe, VT 7/31CASDOC::ROGERSMake it so...Wed Aug 04 1993 17:1281
Several of us went to the HORDE/Allman Bros. show in Stowe, VT on Saturday. 
If you get a chance to see any show at Stowe, go for it! This place 
isn't Red Rocks but could easily pass for an east coast substitute. 
The stage is the ski lodge at Spruce mountain and the seats are the 
ski hill.

This is the second HORDE (Horizons of Rock Developing Everywhere) 
tour. Last year's featured Blues Traveler, Phish, and the Spin 
Doctors. This year's lineup featured Allgood, Aquarium Rescue Unit, 
Warren Haynes Band, Xanax 25, Widespread Panic, Big Head Todd and the 
Monsters, Mr. Reality, The Samples, Black White Red Rhythm Quartet, 
Blues Traveler, and the Allman Bros. Not a bad bargain for 22 bucks.

Allgood opened and was definitely influenced by the Allmans and Little 
Feat. They jammed a lot between songs (like another group we know:-)) 
and were much looser than they sound on record (sorry, CD).

The Aquarium Rescue Unit with Col. Bruce Hampton was one of the best 
acts of the day. They were extremely tight musically and their style 
ranges from Zappa to Little Feat to Capt Beefheart! Some of the better 
jams were between the mandolin player and Hampton, who was playing a 
four-string extremely short-necked guitar called a chazoid. Anyone 
ever heard of one before?

Warren Haynes' band gave him more of a chance to rock out compared to 
the work he does with the Allmans. This was definitely heavier than 
the Allmans material but it was still excellent southern-style rock.

Widespread Panic was much better live than on disc. They were 
promoting their third album, Everyday. These guys are a an excellent 
band that's been around for a few years, and they should be one of the 
next HORDE bands to break out commercially ala the Spin Doctors or 
Fish.

Big Head Todd and the Monsters was my favorite act of the day, A 
Boulder, CO band, they rocked! I've had their CD on my discthing for 
the last couple of days and still can't pin a style on them. I've 
heard influences from the Eagles to Nirvana in their own, excellent 
material. Live, they closed their set with Hendrix' "Voodoo Chile" and 
had almost everyone one their feet. (By this time the show was going into hour
number five, and who knows how many Catamount ales from the beer 
gardens.) 

The Samples were the only band that really didn't fit style-wise with 
the rest of the bands. They hate the comparison, but they sound a lot
like the early Police before they took themselves too seriously. 
Still, they are an excellent band and their new CD sounds really good, 
too.

I was  a bit disappointed with Blues Traveler. They may have been 
tired but I thought the new material wasn't as strong as their first 
album or the show that I was a couple of years ago. They just didn't 
seem as loose this year. John Popper still wailed on harp though and kept 
everyone on their feet. 

In fairness, we were also distracted by the slide show 
taking place next to us. There was a lot of wet ground on the ski 
slope, and after people trudging up and down all afternoon it turned 
to mud. It was about dinner time when Blues Traveler came on, so along 
with their music several people decided to dive headfirst into this 
mud slide to see how far down the hill they could slide. A couple of 
them almost made it into the beer tent:-)

The Allmans closed the show. This was the first show without Dicky 
Betts on the tour as Bob mentioned in another note. He was replaced by 
the guitarist from Warren's Band and John Popper. Warren was directing 
his guitarist and Popper on when to join in or take a solo and was 
definitely leading the band. Even with Betts gone they managed to put 
on excellent show. One of the highlights of their set was Popper 
filling in Betts' "Elizabeth Reed" riffs on harp! Gregg introduced 
three new songs. They were all excellent and should appear on the new 
album they're going to start recording in the fall.

Yikes, the show was as long as this ramble. It started at 1 and was 
over shortly after 11. None of the breaks were longer then 10 minutes 
between sets, which is a credit to the crews.

Catch this tour if you get a chance. It was a real treat to catch so 
many new bands and tunes in one setting.


85.419CXDOCS::BARNESWed Aug 04 1993 17:373
    Big Head Tod amd the Monsters IS A GRATE BAND! 
    
    rfb from Colorado
85.420 or am i utterly confused? BUSY::IRZAbecome what you areWed Aug 04 1993 17:394
    
       they sing "broken hearted savior", no?
    
                                            ^dave
85.421CASDOC::ROGERSMake it so...Wed Aug 04 1993 17:593
    >>they sing "broken hearted savior", no?
    
    yup, and i haven't been able to get it out of my head either!
85.422SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewWed Aug 04 1993 18:104
    there is a nice write up in the new RS mag (bevis & butthead on the
    cover) on this horde tour too !
    
    
85.423NRSTA2::CLARKlive for todayMon Aug 09 1993 17:4212
re              <<< Note 85.421 by CASDOC::ROGERS "Make it so..." >>>

>    >>they sing "broken hearted savior", no?
>    
>    yup, and i haven't been able to get it out of my head either!

Sinkcrownissity!  I was just about to go into the MUSIC notesfile and ask
who did that song!  It's great!  Seems like I've been hearing a lot of good
new music lately.  Anyone heard the band Ultraspace yet?  Excellent mind-
crushing stuff.

- dc
85.424CASDOC::ROGERSMake it so...Tue Aug 10 1993 00:2013
    >> <<< Note 85.423 by NRSTA2::CLARK "live for today" >>>
    
    >> It's great!  Seems like I've been hearing a lot of good
    >> new music lately.  Anyone heard the band Ultraspace yet?  Excellent
    >>mind-crushing stuff.
    
    There's so much stuff coming out lately that it's impossible to keep
    up. About two months ago I picked up Option, Spin, Creem, Wired, MONDO
    2000, and three other alternative-type music/computer mags and the
    choices of what's out there in terms of musical styles/tastes is
    unbelievable. The underground/alternative scene is definitely alive!
    
    What style is Ultraspace? Never heard of em!
85.425a New Zealand bandNRSTA2::CLARKlive for todayTue Aug 10 1993 17:087
re              <<< Note 85.424 by CASDOC::ROGERS "Make it so..." >>>

>    What style is Ultraspace? Never heard of em!

Guitars obnoxiously playing the same gothic rhythm over and over
again ... like a million Neil Youngs on too much acid.  Soul catharsis.
It's beautiful.
85.426NRSTA2::CLARKlive for todayWed Aug 18 1993 19:545
Woah, correction - the band is called "Catherine Wheel" ... I just
picked up their album called "Chrome."  Great stuff.  The song "Pain"
is getting some airplay.

- DC
85.427Steely Dan - Great Woods 8/21/93SALES::GKELLERThe 2nd guarantees the restMon Aug 23 1993 12:5236
HOT, HOT, HOT, INCREDIBLE, AWSOME, STUPENDOUS, MELODIC, HARMONIOUS,  
WONDERFUL, HOT, HOT, HOT, INDESCRIBABLE, SMOKING!!!!!!!:-):-):-);-):-):-)
:-):-):-);-):-):-):-):-):-);-):-):-):-):-):-);-):-):-)


I saw Steely Dan on Saturday night and it was one of the best shows I've 
seen.  It ranks right up there with the Brian Ferry show I saw at Little 
Trees about 5 years ago.  I forgot to bring the set list with me but a few 
of the highlights (EVERY SONG WAS A HIGHLIGHT) are in no particular order...

Bad Sneakers (medley to start off the show Incl a host of stuff from Katy 
		Lied)
Book of Liars (New Walter Becker original... Album in the Spring)
Reelin' In The Years
Babylon Sisters
Fall of '93 (New Walter Becker original... Album in the Spring)
3 or 4 tunes from new Steely Dan album due out soon
Deacon Blues
Home at Last
Peg
Josie
Black Friday
My Old School (E:1)
FM (E:2)

and about 13 other tunes making a nice 3.5 hour show (incl a 20 min break)

Drew Zing, the lead guitarist (walter played mostly rhythm guitar) was 
astounding.  From what I hear the Globe and the herald panned him and the 
show, but what do they know.

If I remember to bring the setlist tomorrow I'll post it.

If you get a chance to see this show all I can say is GO, GO, GO!!!!!!!

Geoff
85.428LANDO::HAPGOODMon Aug 23 1993 13:4011
>Drew Zing, the lead guitarist (walter played mostly rhythm guitar) was 
>astounding.  From what I hear the Globe and the herald panned him and the 
>show, but what do they know.

YEa they tried to say he was WAY TOO LOUD and that he "stole" alot of Becker's
solo slots.  Well I believe that Fagen and Becker set things up the way they
wanted which just didn't happen to coincide w/ what the Globe's music critic
wanted.

bob

85.429ZENDIA::FERGUSONYour recipe is so tastyMon Aug 23 1993 13:454
yeah, the globe trashed the steely show!!!


opinions: aren't they great!
85.430did they ever tour in the 70's or was it just studio??QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyMon Aug 23 1993 14:339
I saw Joycie reviewing them on the news Friday night, and most of the 
people interviewed said something along the lines of "it sounds just
like I'm listening to a record!"  Which didn't lead me to think too 
much about it.  After all, if I'm going to a concert, I'd rather 
hear something a little different.  
Glad people enjoyed it though.  Perhaps those interveiwed just
weren't very astute!

PeterT
85.431PCOJCT::TURNOFGreetings from the Big AppleMon Aug 23 1993 14:337
    Geoff,
    
    Thanks for the review, we're going to see them this Wed at Jones Beach. 
    Last week they played MSG and the papers loved the show the morning
    DJ's couldn't say enough nice things.
    
    Fredda
85.432QUIVER::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedMon Aug 23 1993 16:297
They played FM Saturday night??!?!?  DAMN!!!!  I wanted to hear that so badly,
and I thought they'd never do it!  After My Old School (Friday), the crowd was
screaming wildly for more.  Why did they not do FM Friday night?!?!?  Bummin!

But it was a great show anyway.  I was happy to hear Josie and Black Friday.

adam
85.433ONE900::HUGHESSamurai Couch PotatoMon Aug 23 1993 17:3521
set mode/green_with_envy

Tried hard to get tix for Steely Dan, but my hitherto reliable 'low friends
in high places' did not come through this time. And the prices the local
ticket outlets were asking were outrageous. $80 for seats about as far off to
the left as you can be and still have a seat, and the ticket bimbo had the gall
to say there were no bad seats at GW. But I digress...

set mode/normal_curmudgeon

At least we got to see Fagen and Becker last year on their NYR&SR tour.

Good to hear there's a new album in the works. Fagen's most recent (Kamerikiad?)
is very good, btw.

re did they tour?

Yup. When Fagen introduced some of the other musicians in NYR&SR he mentioned
that a couple of them had toured with him before as Steely Dan.

gary
85.434Cheap tix in the lot...SALES::GKELLERThe 2nd guarantees the restMon Aug 23 1993 18:3414
>          <<< Note 85.433 by ONE900::HUGHES "Samurai Couch Potato" >>>
>
>set mode/green_with_envy
>
>Tried hard to get tix for Steely Dan, but my hitherto reliable 'low friends
>in high places' did not come through this time. And the prices the local
>ticket outlets were asking were outrageous. $80 for seats about as far off to
>the left as you can be and still have a seat, and the ticket bimbo had the gall
>to say there were no bad seats at GW. But I digress...


Scalper tickets were going from $4 - 10 in the parking lot...

Geoff
85.435CXDOCS::BARNESMon Aug 23 1993 19:133
    scuse me ...wuz zat FOUR to TEN Dolloars?????????? unbeleivable!
    
    rfb
85.436ONE900::HUGHESSamurai Couch PotatoMon Aug 23 1993 19:558
$4 to $10!?!?!?! I guess that explains why the concerts sold out so fast :-)

Unfortunately, the logistics of babysitting etc make heading down to GW on
chance kind of unattractive. Oh well, it was a nice night for a hottub party...

I don't s'pose there any tapes circulating?

gary
85.437PossiblySALES::GKELLERThe 2nd guarantees the restMon Aug 23 1993 20:2112
>          <<< Note 85.436 by ONE900::HUGHES "Samurai Couch Potato" >>>
>I don't s'pose there any tapes circulating?
>
>gary


the person sitting next to me Saturday taped both nights.  Supposedly I'm 
getting copies within the next week or so.  If I get them I will someone to 
host a tree.  I have no time but could make a copy or two for people to 
tree.

Geoff
85.438SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewTue Sep 07 1993 14:0427
    well as the subject came up.....anyone go to the Walden Woods show ? I
    taped it....only two goofs in the taping, one was a flip near the end
    of Arowsmiths 2nd to last song, the other was my fault...at the end of
    the concert, I was not listening to the show by that time, and when I
    was check the tape I put on the headphones to see what was going on,
    all I heard was the crowd...I noticed I had not much tape left so I
    went to flip and just as I did he finished the song !!! 
    
    I recorded it off WBOS and got a very good copy (even for Westwood One)
    
    I only listend to Elton John and thats the only set list I have...
    
    Bitch is Back
    Philly Freedom
    Levon
    Simple Life
    The One
    The Last Song
    Take me to the Piolt
    Don't wanna go on with you like that (this must have a shorter name ?)
    Don't let the Sun go Down on me
    Pinball Wizard
    
    the broadcast was all jumbled up from the real line up so I'm guessing
    that some of the show was edited ? I hope not....
    
    Chris
85.439Etheridge's set listSLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewTue Sep 07 1993 15:0816
    	I just listen to Mellissa Etheridge set....WOWOW !
    
    what a rockin' band !
    
    Ain't the night Heavy
    Crazy For Me
    I'm the Only One
    Crome-plated Heart
    Somebody bring me some Water->
    Lets Get it On->
    Does She Love you Like the Way I love you
    
    never really listen to her before...think I'll be getting her New CD
    when it comes out rill soon, I'm the Only One will be on it...
    
    Chris
85.440NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Tue Sep 07 1993 15:4319
I went up to Lawrence to catch a little bit of the Bread
and Roses Festival there.  Many different types of folk
and acoustic performers and storytellers.  Unfortunately
all sets were limited to about 45 minutes.  There was a
limited vending and promotion area where people were 
selling t-shirts, bumper stickers, and crafts; political
candidates and various interest groups also milled around
looking for signatures on petitions.  Basically a labor
and peace theme throughout.

I got a chance to see Fred Small play again - always a
pleasure.  The headliner was Judy Collins, who I have to
say has the most amazing voice I have ever heard.  Small
enough crowd to get some good, close pictures of her
(and sort of meet her - amoung a throng of others)...

Nice weather, pleasant atmosphere.  Fun stuff.

tim
85.441comments and questions about Walden Wood BennyLANDO::HAPGOODTue Sep 07 1993 17:0425
Yea,  I was listening and taping parts I wanted to keep.   I missed a lot
of Elton's set.  I thought Melissa was EXCELLENT too (check her 1st lp too).
I thought Sting was going to play a full set but only played 20 or 25 minutes.
More comments; Why so long on the breaks, especially between Sting and 
Aerosmith, I confirmed that I don't like Bradley J too much,  Henley must've 
only had 35 or 40 minutes to play when all was said and done.  

WGIR (Manchester, NH) cut their broadcast at 11:30 at the end of Buffett's
Margaritaville and they played a Henley song (recorded),  at the end of that
song was where I realized I'd been hosed, so I switched to 'BCN (yup hosed!)
and missed the song after Marg'Ville ... was it a Henley/Buffett duet Eagle's 
tune?   

From the IMO (non-paying customer) dept:

They should've started at 2 and lived up to all the hype.  As it was
only Elton John played close to 50 minutes.  Etheridge, around 40,
Sting 20->25,  A-smith Same, Henley 40ish.

I enjoyed listening though,
bob

ps.  What was the Assoc. Press report on;  Henley bashed them big time for 
"not doing their homework".  

85.442SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewTue Sep 07 1993 17:2916
    	about the limit of playing time....yeah the Sting set took me by
    surprize, as I thought he was to play @1 hour....the only live (read
    really live broadcast) was Elton John, the broadcast started at 6PM and
    Elton was to start his set after Melissa set at 605pm....they taped a
    lot of the show and it is very possible that some of it was cut. The
    in-between acts was over done, but I guess someone has to pay for the
    airtime....
    
    the Henley/Buffett set was almost 90minutes (Buffett play M'ville and
    Volcano).....I have not listened to that tape yet....I just started to
    listen to the Sting set...which by the way started with out warning,
    which makes me think they cut some of his set....
    
    any DECheads go ? outta 50K at the show and not one of us went ? :')
    
    Chris
85.443SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewTue Sep 07 1993 17:5210
    well as far as I can tell Sting's set was cut in the editing van/truck.
    
    what was broadcasted 
    
    Lose My Faith
    7 Brothers (I think thats the title)
    A Day in a Life
    Fields of Gold
    
    Chris
85.444MKOTS3::ROBERTS_CRdust off those rusty stringsTue Sep 07 1993 18:264
    
    50K at the show????  couldn't fill the place huh?
    
    
85.445SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewTue Sep 07 1993 18:537
    judging from the news-coptor video I saw they set up the field very
    differently then say a Dead show (seats were on the fields) and the
    stage was much bigger....oh Carol, you might be happy to know that
    Henley did a new tune writen by Bob Dlyan and Dan O'Keefe, not sure of
    the title maybe "dig a little deeper in the well"
    
    Chris
85.446LANDO::HAPGOODTue Sep 07 1993 19:453
Thanks Chris,  all that sounds about right the way you put it.  

bob.  
85.447LANDO::HAPGOODTue Sep 07 1993 19:466
re:  50K etc

I read in Saturday's Globe that they were going to sell ~45K tickets.

bob

85.448AKOCOA::SMITH_DSo many roads tease my soulWed Sep 08 1993 14:456
	I had never heard of Melissa Ethridge before, she was spectacular...
	I think I'm in love!

	Chris, I would love a tape of that show mon?  Any possibilities
	of running off a copy?
85.449CXDOCS::BARNESWed Sep 08 1993 15:025
    I saw Melissa Ethridge in a small, smoky bar here in Colo Spgs maybe 4
    years ago....grate rock-n-roll. She's a hard lookin woman up close, one
    can tell she's LIVED the rock/blues lifestyle. 
    
    rfb
85.450STUDIO::IDECan't this wait 'til I'm old?Wed Sep 08 1993 16:3622
re:                      <<< Note 85.441 by LANDO::HAPGOOD >>>
   
    >ps.  What was the Assoc. Press report on;  Henley bashed them big time
    >for  "not doing their homework".  

    Not all the money raised by the foundation (or whatever) goes to Walden
    Woods.  Small portions go back to areas where the fundraisers were
    held, for instance they mentioned $10k that went to a California cause. 
    Henley's points were that he can't well ask Californians to donate a lot
    of money for a cause on the opposite coast and the vast majority goes
    to Walden.  Personally, I'd like to know how much the executive
    director they interviewed makes -- it sounded like she left a lucrative
    position for this "challenge."  Maybe I'm too cynical (would you
    believe?), but when there's big bucks floating around someone will take
    advantage.
    
    The highlight of the show for me was Mickey Hart's Smokey the Bear
    imitation on a public service announcement.  He sounded _very_ sincere
    about forest fires, with "Fire on the Mountain" rocking in the
    background.  I wish I'd taped it for that.
    
    Jamie
85.451ROCK::FROMMIt's hard to care about a don't care.Wed Sep 08 1993 16:408
>Maybe I'm too cynical (would you
>    believe?)

nah, you cycnical?  never...

;^)

/rich
85.452QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyWed Sep 08 1993 17:444
Is Melissa Ethridge the one who did "Black Velvet" a few years
back?

PeterT
85.453BUSY::IRZAlet the music do the talkingWed Sep 08 1993 17:474
    
       no, that was alanah miles.
    
                              ^dave
85.454MKOTS3::JOLLIMORESome things you just knowThu Feb 10 1994 14:4518
	I was blown away by Kodo last nite at Mechanics Hall.
	One of the best drummin shows I've ever seen.
	Right from the start it blows you away.
	The first number feature 12 drummers. 5 are playing huge drums,
	like floor toms, with great BIG sticks. 2 are playing a trap set
	with three drums, 3 are playing big drums while sitting on the
	floor leaning backwards, and using (what looked like) bowling
	pins. and 2 were playing massive drums (musta been about 3 feet
	across) WITH BASEBALL BATS!!!   BOOM!  BOOOM!! you can't help but
	say "WOW!"
	
	They also had numbers which featured flute, or cymbals that
	included dance and motion.
	
	And a 900 pound drum! Played by two guys at once, one on each
	end, using big sticks. awesome. the whole show was awesome.
	
	Jay
85.455intenseESKIMO::DWESTchoose wisdom over intelligence...Thu Feb 10 1994 15:119
    Rochelle was sick and the weather sucked so i didn't end up going...
    
    was it packed??  last time i saw them it was awe-inspiring...  those
    guys are in AMAZING condition...  they live communally and work out 
    intensely to have the stamina required to play like they do...
    
    the huge 900 lb drum is made from a single tree trunk...
    
    					da ve
85.456MKOTS3::JOLLIMORESome things you just knowThu Feb 10 1994 15:1712
	da ve,
	
	No, there were many empty seats. i was on the floor about 6 rows
	back and there was no one to my left or right. 'course, there are
	no bad seats there. impressive building. i don't know if it was
	sold out and people just didn't show, or if they didn't sell out.
	
	i wanted to get their live cd, but too many people at the table
	after the show. i'm gonna look for it tho. i love that style of
	drumming. 
	
	Jay
85.457CXDOCS::BARNESThu Feb 10 1994 15:254
    were people dancin? or was it not that kind of drummin?? or jus not that
    kind of show/crowd?
    
    just curious rfb
85.458MKOTS3::JOLLIMORESome things you just knowThu Feb 10 1994 15:458
	nope, no dancin. *I* wanted to. Parts of it was danceable. But it
	wasn't that kind of crowd, for the most part. lots of people of
	kulcha. Mechanics Hall is a very proper place. It's very old and
	ornate and civilized. I saw some 'heads' and lotsa friends that
	I've drummed with, but there was lotsa suits and dresses too. i
	was movin' in my seat tho. ;-)
	
	Jay
85.459where else will they play??MIMS::PICKETT_KThu Feb 10 1994 15:589
    
    Can neone post a listing of where else they are scheduled to play this
    time around?
    
    
    
    Thx-
    kp
    
85.460MKOTS3::JOLLIMORESome things you just knowThu Feb 10 1994 16:229
	I haven't seen any tour schedule, and the little program they
	handed out last nite said only that they will be performing in 21
	cities on their US tour. The show is called Kodo, One Earth Tour
	1994. The program lists their management office as:
                            Dennis Letzler Organization
                          1850 Whitley Ave, Suite #1103
                               Hollywood, CA 90028
                               Tel: (213) 467-6701 
        Jay
85.462ECRU::CLARKChairman of the BoredFri Feb 18 1994 13:0612
>* Sampson & Delilah (GD trad. ?)
	Yep - arranged by Bob Weir
>* Ripple (Garcia & Hunter ?)
	Ayuh
>* Brokedown Palace ( ? )
	Garcia & Hunter
>?	Loser (Garcia)
	Garcia & Hunter
>	El Paso (trad ?)
	Marty Robbins
>?+	The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down (Baez)
	Robbie Robertson
85.463SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewFri Feb 18 1994 13:1611
    OK, so far 
    
    >* Sampson & Delilah (GD trad. ?)
    
    is this maybe Rev Gary Davis ? (got this input from someones mail to
    me)
    
    gee I never knew Dixie down was a Robertson song...a;ways thought it
    was Joan's....learn sumtin new everyday !
    
    I'll repost it with corrections in a bit...
85.465JUPITR::OCONNORSFri Feb 18 1994 14:455
    
     I wasn't there, but I think I've seen em' play "The Hobo Song" by
    Peter Rowan in the past....
    
    Sean
85.466hobo songSMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Fri Feb 18 1994 15:1116
                     <<< Note 85.465 by JUPITR::OCONNORS >>>

>     I wasn't there, but I think I've seen em' play "The Hobo Song" by
>    Peter Rowan in the past....
    
Hiya Sean,

Is there 2 Hobo Songs?  I'm pretty sure Bob Dylan did one that goes like:

he may be a hobo
but one more...one more...one more's gone.

??just wondering
bob


85.467Hobo SongNAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Fri Feb 18 1994 15:279
    Funny thing - I had just about replied to this one, saying that Hobo
    Song was the Peter Rowan one...which it is...but he didn't write it. 
    I've got a bootleg of him doing it at the OVK too, and always thought
    he wrote it.
    
    It's on Old and In the Way, attributed to Jack Bonus.
    
    tim
    
85.468BINKLY::CEPARSKIShow Me Something Built To LastFri Feb 18 1994 15:363
     the Dylan one is "Only A Hobo".
    
    "He's only a hobo but one more is gone"
85.469hobo....oh no.....just say moe whateverOSLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewFri Feb 18 1994 16:358
    funny I just gave a listen and Bruce says its his fav Peter Rowen tune,
    go figya ! well anyway saddly I can't use it :'( some feedback kinda
    killed it......
    
    right now Im timing the tunes but subtrating times sucks I keep
    forgeting its 60 base...I need a stop watch :')
    
    Chris
85.470BINKLY::CEPARSKIShow Me Something Built To LastFri Feb 18 1994 16:375
    
    Chris -
    	Let us know when this will be on TV. I'll certainly watch!
    
    					jeff_fellow_westboro-ian
85.471QUIVER::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedFri Feb 18 1994 17:0010
I also thought Dixie Down was Joan Baez.  oh well.

Friend of the Devil was co-written by the guy from NRPS, right?   I checked my
lyrics file and it says Garcia, Jim Dawson, and Hunter.

good show, too.  It was a surprise to hear Scarlet Begonias.  I had to wait 20
minutes to get in since it was maxed out!  Me of all people! :-)  Serves me
right for being late (again).

adam
85.473NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Fri Feb 18 1994 20:3512
    Incidentally Chris, the "Easy Chair" Dylan tune is entitled, "You Ain't
    Goin' Nowhere", or at least it is on "Will the Circle Be Unbroken II"
    CD that I have....great tune.  They say he wrote it when he was laid up
    from a motorcycle accident, waiting for his girlfriend/wife to
    arrive...
    
    Sorry for the last second update...
    
    Oh, and by the way, that was a very entertaining evening....:-)
    
    tim
    
85.474anyone wanna confirm the title ?SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewMon Feb 21 1994 12:122
    thanks Tim, your not late with that info.....so Josh and/or Carol is
    that the correct title ? not that I don't believe Tim mind you :')
85.475Tim's rightTRETOP::SAMILJANMon Feb 21 1994 13:024
    The title is indeed "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere."  I got this off the
    Dylan's Greatest Vol. II CD.
    
    Bud
85.476ROCK::FROMMIt's hard to care about a don't care.Mon Feb 21 1994 13:557
>    The title is indeed "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere."

hey, i was just labeling a tape i made last night (REM) with that on it

just sharing useless information...

- rich
85.477"Jack Bonus" an alias?STRATA::DWESTchoose wisdom over intelligence...Mon Feb 21 1994 14:098
    
    re the hobo song...  
    
    Tim, are you sure "Jack Bonus" is a real person??  i think he's like
    Mclanahan Skjellyfetti (or whatever that other alias is)...  i'm pretty 
    sure that is a Peter Rowan tune...
    
    					da ve
85.478STRATA::DWESTchoose wisdom over intelligence...Mon Feb 21 1994 14:113
    oh and by the way...
    
    it was the coco BEAN...  not Beab... :^)
85.479Beats me...NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Mon Feb 21 1994 14:268
It could well be a pen name - Jack Bonus...I just read it
off of the CD - I tried looking at the two Peter Rowan
CD's I have, but didn't see it there...

I had always thought Peter wrote it too - sure sounds like
his kinda tune.

tim
85.481One more correctionSALES::GKELLERAn armed society is a polite society - RHMon Feb 21 1994 16:1813
>              <<< Note 85.480 by SLOHAN::FIELDS "Strange Brew" >>>
>                    -< anymore ? thanks for the help all ! >-
>
>SLIPKNOT Feb. 12, 1994 Coco Bean Cafe', Park Ave. Worcester, Ma.
>
>* = Songs that will be use for The Local Evening Muse
>
>* Down By The River (Mark Munzer) 5:14

Just noticed this...  Should be "Down By The Riverside"


Geoff
85.482anymore ? SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewMon Feb 21 1994 16:3940
SLIPKNOT Feb. 12, 1994 Coco Bean Cafe', Park Ave. Worcester, Ma.

* = Songs that will be use for The Local Evening Muse

Set 1

* You Ain't Goin' Nowhere (Dylan) 3:29
* Lay Down Sally (Clapton,Levy,Terry) 5:03
	Louisiana Lady (John "Marmaduke" Dawson)
* Kaleidoscope (Mark Munzer & Jeff "Tree" Riley) 4:44
* Imaginary Day (Bruce Mandaro) 6:48
	Masterpiece (Dylan)
* Down By The Riverside (Mark Munzer) 5:14
* Sampson & Delilah (Rev Gary Davis) 5:49
	Dire Wolf (Garcia & Hunter)
* The City (Bruce Mandaro) 5:48
* The Clouds are Spinning (Larry Mancini) 4:42
* Ripple (Garcia & Hunter) 4:17
* Brokedown Palace (Garcia & Hunter) 4:50

Set 2

* Me & Julio (Simon) 4:06
* Loser (Garcia & Hunter) 6:20
	Dead Flowers (Jagger & Richards)
	El Paso (Marty Robbins)
	Hobo ( ? )
* The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down (J.R. Robertson) 5:04
	Take It Easy (Frey & Browne)
* The Wheel (Garcia & Hunter) 5:35
	Fire & Rain (J. Taylor)
* No One Knows You When Your Down and Out (Jimmie Cox) 3:20
* Scarlet Begonias (Garcia & Hunter) 6:18
	
Encore

* Friend Of The Devil (Garcia & Hunter) 4:28
* The Weight (J.R. Robertson) 6:24

@ total running time 92:37
85.483STUDIO::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Wed Feb 23 1994 13:577
    Joan Baez's version of "Dixie" sucks.  She had the gall to change
    Robert E. Lee into a steamboat.
    
    And I caught a minor mistake: it's "Samson and Delilah," there's no "p"
    in Samson.
    
    Jamie
85.484E::EVANSThu Feb 24 1994 20:107
"The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" is not totally accurate.  When they sing
"By May the 10th, Richmond had fell" they are about a month later.  The night
they are singing about occurred in April.  As for Robert E. Lee, I'm not sure 
that he was ever in Tennessee during the war.  I suspect that he wasn't.

Jim

85.485CXDOCS::BARNESThu Feb 24 1994 21:225
    "There goes the Robert E Lee.."
    I always thought this was a reference to a staempowered paddle boat,
    what do ya call those things???
    
    rfb
85.486NAC::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Thu Feb 24 1994 22:356
steam powered paddle boats.

:-)

tim
85.487SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewFri Feb 25 1994 10:467
    wow, I never knew that ! (wrong month) thats it no false history on my
    show it off the list DAMN IT !!!
    
    
    
    
    just kidding :')
85.488STUDIO::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Fri Feb 25 1994 11:0913
    re .484
    
    But if it happened in April, then surely "by May the tenth" isn't
    wrong.  :-)  Come to think of it, the news of Richmond's fall might not
    have reached Tennessee until May 10.  Some artistic license has to be
    allowed; I mean it should be "Richmond had fallen," but that doesn't
    rhyme with "well" or fit the local vernacular.
    
    re .485
    
    In Baez's version it's a steamboat, in the Band's it's the general.
    
    Jamie
85.489MKOTS3::ROBERTS_CRthe evening sky grew darkFri Feb 25 1994 15:595
    I always thought the Dead spelled it with a 'p' .  seemed like that's
    what I've seen in deadbase and stuff?  ok - who is quickest with the
    deadbase?
    
    
85.490QUIVER::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedFri Feb 25 1994 16:4011
re:      <<< Note 85.489 by MKOTS3::ROBERTS_CR "the evening sky grew dark" >>>

>    I always thought the Dead spelled it with a 'p' .  seemed like that's
>    what I've seen in deadbase and stuff?  ok - who is quickest with the
>    deadbase?

Check the Bible!  I'm pretty sure there's no 'p' in his name.

OK, who's got one of those CD-ROM on-line Bibles?  (Biblebase?)

adam
85.491MKOTS3::ROBERTS_CRthe evening sky grew darkMon Feb 28 1994 14:155
    >Check the Bible!  I'm pretty sure there's no 'p' in his name.
    I KNOW there's no 'p' in the biblical name.  That's not the question I
    was opining about
    
    
85.492ROADKL::INGALLSmay the four winds blow you home againMon Feb 28 1994 14:227

I thought Deadbase WAS the Bible ;^)


Glennnn    

85.493CXDOCS::BARNESMon Feb 28 1994 14:235
    what are we tryin to spell here???
    
    I checked back in this string and can't figger it out
    sorry it was a long, brutal weekend
    rfb
85.494SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewMon Feb 28 1994 14:241
    is it Samson or Sampson
85.495MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREDancing Madly BackwardsMon Feb 28 1994 14:281
	Aw heck, just call him Geoff.
85.496SSGV02::STROBELJeffMon Feb 28 1994 14:383
    what, it's not (Homer) Simpson & Delilah ?
    
    d'oh
85.497ECRU::CLARKChairman of the BoredMon Feb 28 1994 14:402
The album, Deadbase and the Bible all spell it as "Samson."  Geoff, what's
your excuse?  ;^)
85.498:-) :-)MKOTS3::ROBERTS_CRthe evening sky grew darkMon Feb 28 1994 14:494
    
    Is that Geoff or Jeff?
    
    
85.499MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREDancing Madly BackwardsMon Feb 28 1994 14:571
	His father's, father's, father was named Samp.
85.500ECRU::CLARKChairman of the BoredMon Feb 28 1994 15:061
Then shouldn't he be Sampsonsonson, or Sampgreatgrandson?
85.501Erastus's house is for sale in DuxburySANDZ::SAMPSONDriven by the windMon Feb 28 1994 15:5713
    I think my father's father's father name was Levi. I might be wrong
    though, Yah that was Erastus, but Erastus was actually, I think, his 
    father. His father was Levi. Levi built the Corrialainus and Erastus 
    was the shipmaster.
    
    	But since nobody has cut off my hair I think the back of Terrapin
    station it is listed without the P.
    
    
    You are not allow to shave my head as clean as my hands  
            Geoff SamPson
    Not a biblical character
                           
85.502Rob Wasserman & friends at the Beacon 3/26/94TERAPN::PHYLLISyou are the eyes of the worldTue Mar 29 1994 21:4262
This is what I have compiled from a variety of sources including:
postings by d1l@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (david.lilien) to rec.music.gdead,
Ken Baierlein (hightime@well.sf.ca.us) to the well,
formail.TCPBRIDGE.FS3.GREGGN%smte@formail.formation.com to dead-flames, 
John Horzepa" <jjh@psilink.com> to rec.music.gdead.

Rob Wasserman at the Beacon Theater (NYC) March 26, 1994

David Johanson (a.k.a. Buster Poindexter) was the Master of
Ceremonies.
 
Wasserman solo:
Satisfaction
 
Rob with Bruce Hornsby, Michael Brecker, David Sanborn and ?:
White Wheeled Limo
?

Rob with Little Jimmy Scott:
???
 
Rob with Victoria Williams:
Wonderful World
 
Rob, Victoria and John Wesley Harding:
Fantasy is Reality/Bells of Madness
God Lives Upstairs
 
Rob and Matt Hammovitz (cello):
Gypsy 1 and 2

Rob, Bob Weir, Chris Whitley and a drummer
Easy Answers
Maggies Farm
Home is Where You Get Across
Shoulda Had Been Me (new tune)
Fever (with Little Jimmy Scott)
Take Me to the River
Throwing Stones (with Bruce Hornsby)

Rob and Lou Reed 
Dustin' off the Bass
????
Tracks Of My Tears
Jesus
Down the Boulevard

Encore: Rob, Reed, Weir, Hornsby, Hammovitz, Johanson and everyone else
Waiting for the Man

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85.503move over Slipknot :^)SALEM::BURNShow's 'bout a war on violence!Wed May 04 1994 18:0712
    Caught the Earth Plants at the Newburyport DAV hall this past Sat and
    boy was I impressed!!! 
    
    Rilly tite jamming thru 3!!! wonderful sets of mostly Dead tunze were
    very much enjoyed by myself and friends.
    
    Highlights were Scarlet, He's Gone, and Eyes as well as a short sweet
    Tweezer :^)
    
    Plant On dudes!!!
    
    Andy
85.504Get outa the car long-hair!!! :^)SALEM::LEBLANCWed May 04 1994 18:095
    What I want to know is who was that long haired weirdo playing the 
    drums Andy?
    
    chris_very_impressed_as_well
    
85.505and she sang kinda low pitched too...SALEM::BURNShow's 'bout a war on violence!Wed May 04 1994 21:154
    nuthin wrong with long hair Chris, lotsa chicks have long hair. Altho
    this one was kinda flat chested ;^)
    
    Andy_the_wormhead_:^)
85.506Who was that long-haired hippy?SALEM::BENJAMINWed May 04 1994 22:074
    The flat chested one did screw up some lyrics tho...much like the Boyz
    themselves...;-)  Very good jammin'...IMHO....
    
                  :-) daveB_count_me_in_as_a_wormhead_...
85.507Pink Floyd - Shine OnAKOCOA::SMITH_Dsimple twist of fateMon May 23 1994 17:5027
    
    I enjoyed the Pink Floyd show Friday night.  The 4th row vantage
    point made for a full (and loud) experience.
    
    I found the first set to be rather sleepy.  The material was mainly
    post_waters and not as climatic or thrilling as hearing the oldies.
    The first set closure, One of These Days, was raging.  The explosions
    were firey and I could feel the heat.  After they got things all pumped 
    up with that, they walked off stage, much to my dismay.
    
    The second set was incredible!  I really enjoyed the version of Time
    the best, it was well played and full of energy, great animation on the 
    screen, very synchronic.  Shine on you Crazy Diamond, Bricks in the Wall, 
    Great Gig in the Sky, Us and Them, Run Like Hell, were all excellent.  
    Someone told me the saxaphonist was the orig. from Dark Side??? Cool!!!
    
    I missed Roger Water's presence and odd artistic flair, however the
    backup musicians played his part well.  I really thought they should
    have continued into Any Colour You Like after Us & Them....I hate it
    when radio stations do that, I hated even more when the name carrier
    of Pink Floyd does it too!!!!
    
    All in all, great show!  I would see it again if I had a chance.
    
    
				- deane'o
    
85.508Stones in TorontoJUPITR::OCONNORSThu Jul 21 1994 19:1127
    
     The Rolling Stones   R.P.M. Club  Toronto 7/19/94
    
    soundcheck: Little Red Rooster
    Jeff Healy Band  1/2 hour set
    
    Live With Me
    You've Got Me Rocking
    Tumbling Dice
    Shattered
    Rocks Off
    Sparks Will Fly
    Monkey Man
    No Expectations
    Love Is Strong
    Brand New Car
    Honky Tonk Woman
    I Go Wild
    Start Me Up
    Street Fighting Man
    Brown Sugar
    Can't Get Next To You
    (Al Green song) w/Jeff Healy
    85 min.
    
    
    
85.509CXDOCS::BARNESFri Aug 12 1994 17:1016
    Saw two of three sets by the local deadcover band SHAKEDOWN STREET
     last nite here in Colo spgs. first set was killer! 
    Estamated-->Eyes-->Greatest Story opener was very tight! don't remember
    a couple of tunes but the Scarlet-->Bucket closer for that first set
    rocked! The second set contained a Mr Charlie (for Charlie Manson)
    and WHITE RABBIT!!!
    had too many Lieninkugel (sp) reds by then and no way were Patty and I
    gonna make a third set. was a funny nite, as the Pikes Peak Rodeo was
    just up the road and a couple of "those types" %^) wandered in, plus
    the band kept makin jokes about the rodeo and cowboys etc...all in good
    fun though, no mailice intended...
    
    drivng the piece-o-sh*t Bronco II thru the flash flood to get there was
    sorta fun too...hadn't seen it rain like that in awhile!
    
    rfb
85.510damn copyrights causing name changes....damn....SALEM::LEBLANCWed Aug 24 1994 20:106
    I know deane-o was there as was an old dechead named dave weiss, but
    has anybody checked out Plan(et) B(e)?
    not a bad group, guitarist is pretty good and the keyboard player, as
    deane can attest to jams...roadtripping up to the church possibly on
    fri if anyone wants to join in say the word....
    chris
85.511The Church has been a rockin'....SALEM::LEBLANCN' it's 1 in 10,000 that come fer the SHOWTue Sep 06 1994 15:345
    Once again a road trip to the church turns out most triumphant
    earthdance jammed hard...best i have seen them play, and an addition
    of the second percussionist from Born Naked was nice.....
    Any phisheads out there might wanna check out Born Naked..very much the
    same style
85.512E::EVANSTue Sep 06 1994 17:3710
I went to see the Stones at Foxboro.  It was an impressive 2 hour and 20 minute
show.  Lenny Kravits (sp?) opened.  While I balked for some time at the $50
ticket price, the Stones truly did deliver an exceptional show - great
stage, excellent lighting, special effects, perhaps the best sound I have
heard at any large concert, extraordinary showmanship, great set list and
an excellent musical performance from a 12-person band.  One of the best
rock n roll shows I've seen or heard - definitive proof that 50 is NOT old!

Jim

85.513I'm a mon-kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!SALEM::BENJAMINTue Sep 06 1994 19:498
      I also saw the Stones (Sunday show) and although I was up in the 
    boonies and I think the sound was being very much affected by the wind,
    it was still a very impressive performance.....very good song
    selection, too.....the whole thing was better than I was expecting...
    I love it when that happens....!!
    
                :-) daveB
    
85.514What Can A Poor Boy Do...BINKLY::CEPARSKISummer Flies And August DiesTue Sep 06 1994 20:0821
    Did the Sunday Stones thing too. Had an excellent time hanging out
    with some friends before the show (even though it was COLD out in the
    lots all afternoon, the wind was brutal!). Headed up to the gates
    around 8:00 or so (decided against Lenny Kravitz). I didn't have a
    ticket but figgered it wouldn't be too hard to score one at the gates. 
    	Hung out there for 10-15 minutes before I got a Sec. 313 from
    someone for $20 and then headed in. Ran into my friends at the
    concessions before the Stones started and got them to play "bring me
    back your ticket stub" so I could get down on the floor with them. Had
    some pretty good seats (Sec. D right by the soundboard) so I was
    psyched.
    	As far as the show went - I thought it was VERY good. Haven't seen
    the Stones since '81 (back when they meant to me what the Dead do
    today) and boy they haven't let down a bit. Song selection covered the
    whole spectrum from "Rocks Off" and "Wild Horses" to "Start Me Up" and
    some of the recently released stuff. Definitely one to catch if you get
    the chance. They're even mixing up the setlists a bit from what I hear
    so it's not the same show every night. Excellent stage show - lotsa
    running room for Mick and Keith, fireworks and a few other suprises
    which kept it visually interesting too. All in all one hell of show.
    Made me remeber why they are "The World's Greatest Rock 'n Roll Band".
85.515Clapton's Set list, 10-05-94 Toronto Canada.SLOHAN::FIELDSAin't gonna worry my life anymoreFri Oct 07 1994 12:3433
    here is the set list from the Eric Clapton tour, this is from the Oct.
    5th show at Toronto.
    
	MOTHERLESS CHILD
	MALTED MILK
	HOW LONG BLUES
	KID MAN BLUES
	COUNTY JAIL
	THE .44
	BLUES ALL DAY LONG
	GOIN' AWAY
	STANDIN' AROUND CRYING
	HOOCHIE COOCHIE MAN
	HURTS ME TOO
	BLUES BEFORE SUNRISE
	THIRD DEGREE
	RECONSIDER BABY
	HAVE MERCY
	CAN'T JUDGE NOBODY
	SOMEDAY AFTER A WHILE
	I'M TORE DOWN
	HAVE YOU EVER LOVED A WOMAN
	CROSS-CUT SAW
	FIVE LONG YEARS
	BORN UNDER A BAD SIGN
	GROANING THE BLUES
	CROSSROAD BLUES
	AIN'T NOBODY'S BUSINESS (BUT MY OWN)
	Encore:  SWEET HOME CHICAGO

	Exactly 2hrs in length--


85.516Bueller, Bueller, Anyone Anyone?SALEM::LEBLANCMon Oct 10 1994 12:591
    anyone got the dylan setlists from the past weekend shows?
85.517Check Back TomorrowBINKLY::CEPARSKISummer Flies And August DiesMon Oct 10 1994 14:123
    Forgot to bring in my list from Saturday's show - will do so tomorrow.
    
    Excellent show that night ,btw.
85.518OBSESS::BEAUPREDuck and CoverMon Oct 10 1994 14:1222
    No set list, but Saturday night's show was really exceptional,
    exceeding the recent Woodstock performance. His voice was
    clear (all things being relative) and strong and he played 
    lead guitar or shared lead most of the night. 
    
    The band, who have been backing him now for a couple of years,
    was able to adroitly switch between the raw garage/roots type 
    of ferocity that fueled the electric numbers ("Tangled Up in 
    Blue" and "All Along.." were especially powerful) and the subtlety 
    required for the mid-set acoustic songs. I'm sure it's no easy 
    thing to play with Bob, what with his predilection toward unscheduled 
    tempo changes and stopping songs when he's decided he's had enough, 
    but these guys are more than equal to the task.  
    
    He opened w/ "Jokerman" (standard opening song, it appears), and 
    followed with (in no particular order) "Senor", "All Along the 
    Watchtower", "Tangled Up in Blue", "Masters of War", "Knockin' on 
    Heaven's Door", "Maggie's Farm", "It Ain't Me, Babe", and many others.
    
    I have a lousy memory for setlists, and mostly everything else for
    that matter, so I'd be interested to see someone post lists for
    the shows.
85.51910/9/94 Orpheum Theater, BostonPONDA::NOKNOK::BELKINgathered from coincidenceMon Oct 10 1994 14:3731
Sunday's show, setlist from rec.music.dylan:

Sound check:
don't think Twice
Wiggle Wiggle

Show:
Jokerman
Lay, Lady Lay
All Along the Watchtower
You're A Big Girl Now
Tangled Up in blue
Watching the River Flow
Love - 0/No Limit - acoustic
One Too Many mornings - acoustic
Boots of Spanish Leather - acoustic
God Knows
Joey
Maggie's Farm

Encore:
I Shall Be Released
It Ain't Me, Babe - acoustic
Two Soldiers - acoustic
Blowin' in the Wind - acoustic, house lights on!


I enjoyed the acoustic tunes more.  I thought the drummer in his present
band, while techically good etc etc etc, just was a bit too heavy-fisted.
Actually I liked the band he had before this one, the band with G.E. Smith,
a little better.
85.520Dylan 10/7/94SMURF::BURNSMon Oct 10 1994 17:2025
    Dylan's setlist from friday 10/7
    
    Jokerman
    Just like a woman
    All along the watchtower
    Under the red sky
    Tangled up in blue
    Positively 4th street
     (acoustic set - next 3 songs)
    Mr. Tambourine man
    Masters of war
    Mama, you've been on my mind
     (electric...)
    God knows
    I & I
    Maggie's farm
     (Encore)
    Ballad of a thin man
    It ain't me babe (acoustic with band)
    
    Alternates on the setlist:
    	Shelter from the storm/Simple twist of fate, were alternates to
    		Under the red sky.
    	Man in the long black coat was an alternate to I & I.
    
85.521Dylan 10-8-94BINKLY::CEPARSKISummer Flies And August DiesTue Oct 11 1994 17:2220
    Dylan 10/8/94
    
    Jokerman
    Senior
    Watchtower
    Queen Jane
    Tangled Up In Blue
    Time Will Tell (?)
    
    Acoustic Set
    Time For Your Tears (?)
    Masters of War
    Don't Think Twice Its Allright
    Knockin' On Heaven's Door
    Highway 61
    Speak Out (?)
    Maggie's Farm (1/2 way thru this one he switched back to electric)
    Band Intorductions
    Ballad of A Thin Man
    It Ain't Me Babe
85.522correct 10/8/94 listSMURF::BURNSTue Oct 11 1994 19:1122
    
    Corrections to previous entry...
    
    Dylan 10/8/94
    
        Jokerman
        Senior
        Watchtower
        Queen Jane
    	Tangled up in blue
    	Most likely you go your way, I'll go mine
    	The lonesome death of Hattie Carroll
    	Masters of war
    	Don't think twice, it's alright
    	Knockin' on heaven's door
    	Highway 61 Revisited
    	Maggie's farm
    	Ballad of a thin man
    	It Ain't me babe
    
    Bill (from rec.music.dylan)
    
85.523Correction to correctionSMURF::BURNSTue Oct 11 1994 19:156
    Oops, typed too fast.
    
    	Insert "In the Garden" between Highway 61 and Maggie's
    
    Bill
    
85.524how was the show ? (lots of adjectives) Great !SLOHAN::FIELDSAin't gonna worry my life anymoreMon Oct 17 1994 14:3982

	Eric Clapton Blues Tour - Worcester, Ma. Oct. 14, 1994

	If my life were to end today, I would not put up a fight. Why ?
	I have seen the concert I have always dreamed to see.

	For me half the fun of going to a concert is what happens before
	and after the concert itself. so I'll start on the morning of Oct.
	13th....it was about 10am and I had just given up on getting one
	ticket to see Eric Clapton at the Worcester Centrum, the one ticket
	I had seen out on the superhighway (enet) was sold minutes before I
	could get my hands on it....so sadly depressed beyond simple words
	I opened up my boombox CD player and dropped in From The Cradle to
	somehow soothe my sadness....I put on my headphones and press play.
	About a verse or so into the first track, Blues Before Sunrise, I
	see the little flashing light on my phone flashing...I press pause
	on the CDplayer and answer the phone with a friendly Hello.....
	the voice, on the other end, tells me his name and that he is from
	a local radio station, WBOS. No way, my little fried mind says...
	But yes it was true ! He gos on saying that they got my Email message
	I sent them a week or so ago, which I kinda figured was worth the 
	shot, with my request for a pair of Clapton ticket for the Oct. 14th 
	show in Worcester Ma.....and if I still wanted a pair I could come 
	the station and pick up a pair they have to give away to listeners.
	He tells me where the station is and a phone number to call if I got
	lost....I hang up after thanking the man over a 100 times, still in 
	disbelief I call my Wife to tell her....from the sounds of it Jen 
	fell off her chair....

	Part I

	Friday morning Jen and I drive to Boston to pick up the tickets...
	the day gos by and we drive to the Centrum....We decide to go in 
	early to check out the stage and stuff....Jen buys me a hat, I don't
	like t-shirts they don't last and cost to much, I buy her a beer
	and we go find our seats...very nice ! @24th row :') close enough to
	see the faces of the band but far enough back to really hear the full
	sound. Jimmie Vaughan and band start their set....I have always
	like Jimmie's sound in the F'T-Birds and was looking forward to his
	set, I was not disappointed....His still is Texas fried blues and
	thats fine with me....liked his set so much I will be getting his
	latest release very soon. Highlight was Six Strings down, which is
	a tribute to late-great bluesman including SRV....

	Part II

	The Lights go off and Eric and the band slowly walk to their
	spots on the stage....they start off with Motherless Child...
	and followed the set list we have seen from other shows, I had a copy
	of the Toronto setlist and as far as I could tell he kept it the 
	same. Fine with me :'). The crowd was somewhat quite and sitting 
	in their seats and getting into the music....on a few ocassions 
	some people would lose it and by some magical force they would 
	jump to their feet and dance to the song....Centrum ushers would 
	try to get them to sit but these people would not sit until the 
	song was over and then the whole place would stand to show their 
	approval to what was just played. I've seen some people saying 
	that Eric didn't do any extended solos, and yes that was true but 
	if you look at it from my point of view the whole show was one long 
	extened solo for Eric ! But thats Eric style, simple and tasty licks 
	no fanfare just good playing. His voice was beyond belief, WOW ! 
	So much feeling in his voice that at times it brought a tear to my 
	eyes....the show ended with Sweet Home Chicago and Jimmie joined in 
	the fun, it was a barn burning offering for sure.
	Highlights from the show were, Hoochie Coochie Man, Third Degree, 
	Cross-cut Saw, Crossroads and the surprise was Ain't nobody's Business.
	
	Part III

	After the show I was so up, Jen and I went to a club in Worcester,
	The Plantation Club, to catch the 2nd set of Slipknot and continue the
	fun of the evening....

	all and all it was for me a very long awaited concert, one that will
	never be topped for two reasons. First is simple, Eric playing 
	the Blues all night ! and the second was how I ended up at the show,
	Winning tickets when I gave up all hope of even going....

		Religious experence ? it just might have been...

	Chris
85.525coolMAYES::OSTIGUYMon Oct 17 1994 16:267
    Well Chris, it sounds like a grate night all around !!!  gotta see that
    hat Jen bought for ya...
    
    any acoustic Eric ??  Motherless Child maybe ??  and he didn't play
    Driftin' as I recall from the setlist ??
    
    WO
85.526well, I liked the t-shirtsSTAR::HUGHESCaptain SlogMon Oct 17 1994 16:5017
    Awesome show. From about halfway through I kept thinking to myself,
    this has got to be the peak, it can't get any better. But it just kept
    getting better.
    
    The first few songs were acoustic, as I (hazily) recall.
    
    I had great plans to go find the Plantation, but got totally weirded
    out by the traffic and the roads around the Woostrum. By the time I
    found an onramp to 290, I just wanted to warp out of there. Still,
    cranking up "from the cradle" and jumping in the hottub was an
    acceptable plan B.
    
    I now understand why it is called 'wormtown'. If you follow the maps,
    the only way to get from on side of 290 to the other is if a freak
    wormhole opens up in front of you.
    
    gary
85.527WRKSYS::DUTTONInspiration, move me brightly...Mon Oct 17 1994 16:462
Lots of acoustic Eric in the show...  The first 4 or 5 songs
he did were "unplugged"...  ahhhhhhhh!!!!! :)
85.528so glad I made it!BIGQ::DCLARKdoin' that crazy hand jive!Mon Oct 17 1994 17:5912
    I wuz there too. Just an amazing time. That's all. My overall
    impression was that EC came to town like the world's foremost
    blues expert and he was here to teach us about the blues. At
    times I thought the show was almost scholarly in tone, with
    the setlist arranged starting with early acoustic blues (6
    and 12 string and dobro playing by EC) through 30's and 40's
    blues with the Gibson Hollowbody through the Freddie King
    stuff with the 335 and finally the 'modern' blues with the
    Strat. EC didn't overplay at all. My faves included Have
    You Ever Loved A Woman (of course!), Someday After a While,
    Born Under a bad Sign, Moaning the Blues, and Crossroads.
    EC's voice was in fine form too. 
85.529Friday, Oct. 14, 1994NETCAD::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedTue Oct 18 1994 12:3254
Here's my thoughts on the show:

First, it was good to finally get out of my house after sitting on my ass for 2
weeks watching Jerry Springer and Montel Williams :-)  I got my plaster cast
off that Wednesday, and I was looking forward to getting outside on my
birthday.  I would have been down at MSG that weekend, but extenuating
circumstances kept me home instead :-(.  I had no ticket to this show, but late
that week the guy I sold my MSG tix to said he had a pair of handicapped seats
in separate locations, and that he might be able to give me one.  I said "call
me Friday morning and I'll know if I'm up for going out".  Friday came around
and I was looking forward to the possibiliy of going out that night,  And now
that I had the cast off I could take a shower, too :-)

Ray called and said "you have a ticket".  He didn't know which seat I would
get, but I was in the door.  He was going to meet a friend at the Picadilly Pub
to get another pair of extras, and he'd give me one (keeping his two best for
him and his girlfriend).  My friends Rich and Michelle drove me into Worcester
and I was supposed to meet Ray at the box office to pick up my ticket.  After
much crutch-walking to get from our parking spot to the Centrum, I met Ray.  I
told Rich and Michelle that they might be able to get a pair of seats together
(they also had separate seats) from Ray.  It turns out that they were selling
floor seats at the box office!  And apparently they had been selling tickets
since 5 pm!  Rich and Michelle bought a pair of seats next to the soundboard
and dumped their "separates".  I was given a section 233 ticket, but I was
hoping to hit the handicapped section in 121.  Ray and Liz were going to sit in
121, and I also knew 2 other people who were in 121, so I went there,  We got
into the arena just as Jimmy Vaughn was starting, and we just walked in and sat
down in some free seats.  121 is right on the side of the stage, and they have
wheelchair areas.  The stage was so sparsely set up that there was nothing over
3 feet tall on the entire stage (except the musicians :-)) and the side view
was just excellent.  I was right behind the video screen, but it was made of a
special fabric that allowed you to see the picture whether you were in front or
behind it!  So, Eric was a lefty that night according to the screens!  I was in
the back of the section but it was still no more than 50 feet from the stage.

The sound was great, the view was great, and Eric was great.  I noticed that
they were just running through the songs with no solos by Eric, but that
changed as the night progressed.  By the middle of the show he was really
burning on the songs.  And I especially liked his tone that night.  Generally,
I find him to be a bit "over the top" in terms of the gain on his amp.  He
cranks up the compression and the gain and the notes come out sounding the
same, with no character.  But Friday night he leaned off the knobs a lot and
the character of each of his many guitars he used was able to come out.  I wish
he'd leave the controls that way for tours in the future!

I loved the encore, Sweet Home Chicago.  I was dancing in my leg brace!  I
liked the way he re-did Crossroads (compared to the way he did it on the
record).  And Born Under a Bad Sign ripped.

I would have liked to go to see the rest of the Slipknot show afterwards, but I
was at the mercy of my driver, so we had Chinese food instead and went home :-) 
All in all, a good way to spend my birthday.

adam
85.530The I TonesCSLALL::LEBLANC_CPlease don't dominate the rapJACKMon Nov 21 1994 12:4510
    Saw the I -Tones on sat-er-day at the Western Front in Cambridege....
    not as rootsy as they were when i saw them  with Cliff....alot
    of new members too..have a dancehall kinda sound now..the Front is the
    same place it was last time i was there...Dragon Stouts went down
    nice..good time was had by all until my newly turned 21 yr old sister's
    friend booted in the bathroom...
    HouseO Blues wouldn't let us in becuase 2 people had NH non-driver's
    ID...this policy sucks..does this seem to be the norm in Boston as an ID
    policy?
    chris                   
85.53130 years of Leon Russell...CXDOCS::BARNESMon Feb 06 1995 14:2126
    Patty and I, Hoot, and some friends, Barbara-Ann and Hoolie the Hooligan
    went "up on Cripple Creek.." to see the master of space and time,
    Leon Russel last Friday. Took a gamblers bus so we wouldn't haveta
    drive (good thing, I passed out on the bus on the way back down). Leon
    played in the old Imperial Hotel, one of the last authentic mining era
    buildings left since gambling has come into Cripple Creek. He started
    out with some of his mellow tunes, which for the life of me I can't
    remember the names of, then went into a medly of what Hoot called "30 
    years of Leon Russell in 20 minutes"...every song you can think of in
    one long jam, Roll Away The Stone, Alcatraz, Bird On a Wire, Sweet Home
    Chicago, etc. Grate stuff. Although Leon is lookin old!, walks with a
    a limp and a cane now and his hair and beard is SNOW WHITE!, 
    he's still got it! His piano playing was superb!
    (You should see the size of his hands!) and that classic Leon
    growl/wail was apparent in any song he wished it to be! 
    Afterwords, we went to the 3 casinos that offered 5 bucks in quarters
    for riding the bus up, had a beer in each one, and went to the Cripple
    Creek Brewery and drank Donkey Ales and something else that put me
    under the table...but not before I used my psychic powers to win a
    bunch of monies at the slots, course I gave all my quarters to Patty
    and Hoot who promptly lost 'em all playing slot-poker. 
    
    I don't remember much after that......
    
    I hope to keep it more together for Jorma...
    rfb
85.532May he keep truckin' for another bunch of yrs.TRLIAN::DUGGANMon Feb 06 1995 15:476
    WAY too cool, rfb! Did he do my _All_time_favorite_ Leonsong: 
      	"Delta Lady"? 
    
    	Last time I saw him was about ten trs. ago...
    
    Mikey
85.533CXDOCS::BARNESMon Feb 06 1995 15:525
    Delta Lady was a part of the "30 years"...jam. and was one of those
    that had that "leon" growl/wail some of us love so much...
    
    
    rfb
85.534JORMA!!!CXDOCS::BARNESMon Mar 20 1995 13:2820
                            HOT F*CKIN TUNA! 
    
    in Cripple Creek Sat. Nite! GRATE STUFF!! Jorma is
    a big dude! He has a crew cut and beard that is pretty grey
    now-a-dazes. Pete Sears from Jefferson Starship and another Pete?
    (from the original Hot Tuna??) accompanied Jorma. They played two sets,
    the first about 1.5 hours and the second about the same, definitely got
    our monies worth! Pete Sears is an excellent piano player! Jorma tore
    up the guitar as usual. The first set, so I was told, was most of the first
    three albums. I recognized most of the tunes when he played them, but
    couldn't name most of 'em. Hesitation Blues was one. It got rather loud
    during the second set, the venue being the old melodrama room of the
    Imperial Hotel, circa 1890's. AFterwards Hoot, Patty and I 
    retired to the Cripple Creek Brewery where, for a change, we all turned 
    out to be winners on the slots! Caught the 1:45am bus outa Cripple Creek 
    home, crawled into bed about 3:30AM...OUCH!!!!! Jorma said something 
    about them playin in Aspen later this week and invited eveyone to 
    "follow us up, we'll be trippin the whole way!" All in all a very good 
    show and I'd do it all again givin the chance.
    
85.535ASDG::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Fri May 12 1995 13:4831
I typed this for a Colo. friend who's pals with the Samples.  I'm a poor typist,
so I'm posting it here to get extra mileage out of my hard work.

Jamie

From yesterday's Boston Globe, this isn't the whole article, just the funny part.

Talented Sean Kelly takes too many shots -- of tequila

Unplugged concerts are nothing new, but Sean Kelly brought a new twist to the 
genre on Monday.  "We're just going to drink tequila and play music for you," 
said Kelly, who is between tours with the Samples, the Colorado band which has 
become a word-of-mouth sensation in recent years.

Kelly, whose earnest, innocent-sounding tenor voice has been compared to that 
of a young Sting, made good on his promise - too good, actually.  The music 
flowed superbly early on, but so did the tequila, which by the second half of 
the show turned the 90-minute gig into an inadvertant "Wayne's World."

Suddenly, there were fewer songs, more chatter, strange discussions about body 
functions and embarrassing efforts to find women in the audience willing to 
kiss the band's lighting designer.  It was meant to be harmless fun - and much 
of it was - but it went on too long and sent some of the several hundred fans 
scurrying for the exits.

"How ridiculous was that?" said one patron, leaving in a huff.

It's not as if we've never seen a woozy singer onstage.  However, it was indeed 
odd, by today's sobriety standards, to see Kelly openly shoot down shots of 
tequila with co-guitarist Rob Summers (a childhood friend) and exclaim "Bottoms 
up!" every five minutes.
85.536CXDOCS::BARNESFri May 12 1995 14:313
    was this MTV unplugged???
    
    rfb
85.537STOWOA::JOLLIMOREOneWhiteDuck/0^10=nothing at allFri Aug 04 1995 15:15124
An Evening with the Corps
A review of the Drum Corps International 1995 East Coast Classic

   I'm an old Drums Corps head from the mid-sixties. I competed from about
1961 to 1967 or so. I've played in Lynn's Manning Bowl on several occasions,
but I haven't been there, or to a contest in about 30 years.  So, my buddy
Steve-o and I, while watching the DCI finals from last year on public
television, decided to find a drum corps contest and go, for old times sake.
   
   The show started right on time, in spite of the light rain that was
falling. First corps off the line took us by surprise. When I competed,
corps were classed as A, B or C. And, this was definitely a C corps. From
Waltham, MA were the Phoenix. The corps couldn't have had more than 40 kids,
and they were little. Not realy what we had come to see. They were DNP in
the scoring.
   
   The next corps were from England! The Mayflower Corps from Billericay.
They put on a very nice performance, but like the Phoenix, either did not
place in the judging, or they only put on a exhibition performance. Their
routine was a giant step up from the Phoenix, but still not what we were
anticipating.
   
   Following them were another local corps: the Royal Columbians, from
Chicopee, MA. A strong corps, with some good sound, but a routine very
unlike what we remember drums corps were like. In the 50's and 60's corps
consisted only of drums, bugles and a color guard section of only a few
flags. Today's corps have elaborate sets, and dozens of percussion
instruments along with flag sections consisting of costumed dancers twirling
flags, throwing rifles and putting on a show all their own. The RCs did a
series of pagan dances, which I found quite foreign to a drum and bugle
score. Apparantly so did the judges, as the RC's placed last scoring a 59.3
   
   Another local, the Nashua Spartans, took the field next. A very strong
corps with a fairly traditional routine, updated for the 90's. The
percussion sections kept getting larger with each corps. And, between corps
there was a mad rush to remove one setup and replace it with the next corps'.
The percussion sections, consisting of xylophones, bells, cymbals, huge bass
drums, djambes, congas, tubes, you-name-it, if you can hit if with a stick
and make a sound, it was there, stretched 40 yards from the 30yard line to
the 30yard line at the edge of the field. Also, there was the traditional
drum section of snares, toms, bass and cymbal who marched during the
performance. The Spartans, although showing a strong performance, placed
only 6th with a 65.3
   
   After the Spartans, who wrapped up the first half, came an exhibiton by
the Boston Crusaders Senior Corps. This is non-competing corps of former
Crusader members and band payers from across New England. They got together
to form a corps with the sole purpose of entertainment. They play in the
style of the old corps: a crisp marching, arm swinging, high stepping
blast-it-out type routine. They played the same routine they played in their
heyday of the 60's. It was a blast from the past. The Crusaders EXACTLY as I
remembered them. Same songs. Same style. Same enthusiasm. Only the uniforms
were different.
   
   After a short pause, the contest resumed featuring a few of the top corps
from around the US. The corps who was to kick off the 2nd half had
transportation problems which delayed their arrival. So, the Orlando Magic
stepped up to lead off. The Magic had, what I thought, was the most
interesting routine. The repertoire was original music by Robert Smith
entitled "Danse Animale", a movement symphony based on the animal qualities
of humans; sea, land and sky. They also had the best t-shirts featuring an
original artwork depicting their repertoire.  ;-) But despite their original
theme, and a good performance, they couldn't best the reigning champs and
finished 2nd with an 83.0
   
   Next, from Denver CO, was the very powerful Blue Knights. This corps had
about the best horn section of the evening. Their routine was standard, and
their drum section was very tight, but the horns had the most volume of any
of the competing corps. But, although I thought they gave a fine
performance, the judges clearly saw technical flaws which escaped me as they
placed a respectable but disappointing 3rd, posting an 82.4 They did have
*THE* best color guard section with about 30 young ladies in very attractive
costumes! :-)
   
   The Santa Clara Vanguard stepped on the field next and showed why they
are 5 times DCI champions. Their routine was immaculate. The repertoire
entitled "Not The Nutcracker" featured a post modern adaptation of the
musical themes and moods contained in the Nutcracker Suite. It was simply
awesome. They also featured the largest and most talented percussion
section. The Vanguard have been innovative in their approach and have led
the way to what drums & bugle corps routines look like today. As they ended
their routine, it was clear to me: we had a winner, with still two corps to
perform. They topped the field with a fairly low score of only 88.8 (tough
judging!)
   
   Finally the Velvet Knights arrived and scrambled to get on the field for
their show. These guys, from Anaheim CA, were as loose as a corps gets.
They worked the crowd before their performance, and their warm-up was unlike
any we'd seen throughout the evening. Most corps would line up facing the
opposite side of the field and warm up their instruments, simply playing
warmup exercises. (It was clear as the Vanguard warmed up that they were the
corps of the nite, for even their warmup routine blew people away ;-) The VK
tho, warmed up by jumping around and literaly loosening up acting weird &
wild. Their uniforms were also unlike any of the other corps; instead of
shakles and plumes they wore ball caps, and their color overall was an
un-corps like yellow. Certainly a stark contrast to the wound-up-tight,
clockwork approach of the Vanguard, these guys were loose and carefree. They
made it look like fun. And a loose, carefree performance earned them only a
4th place, with a 79.3
   
   The host corps wrapped up the contest. The Boston Crusaders, doing an all
Pat Metheny group program of: "Are We There Yet", Beat 70", "Catherdral In A
Suitcase" and "First Circle" clearly won the hometown favorite catagory, but
were able to place only 5th behind the other cross-country entrants, with a
mediocre 74.9 score. Still, they put on a passionate performance in the
shadow of their seniors, who had dedicated the evening's show to the
recently late Mr Ed Denon, a major part of the Crusader history, RIP.
   
   All in all, a fine evening of performances by a whole bunch of talented
and enthusiatic kids from across the country. In some ways, there were
things that I saw which reminded me of how little things have changed in 30
years. In a LOT of ways, I noticed how different things are today. The
equipment, including the supply trucks and buses, are not at all like what
we had, yet the travel and excitement are still there. The judging and
scoring are the same, except that instead of using clipboards and pencils
the judges used handheld tape recorders and computers. The crowd is still
the same: parents, alumnii, and kids of all color shape and sizes all
enjoying a common addiction to music and competition.
   
   Oh, and one major difference I noted this morning: scores for last nite's
show were posted on the Vanguard's Homepage on the Web by 10:00pm last nite!

   :-)
   
85.538CXDOCS::BARNESFri Aug 04 1995 15:218
    any tapes available?????
    
    
                              ;^)
    
    
    
    rfb
85.539STOWOA::JOLLIMOREOneWhiteDuck/0^10=nothing at allFri Aug 04 1995 15:506
	should I start a tree? 
	or you wanna trade straight-up for the bonner springs tapes
	
	;-)  ;-)  ;-)
	
	
85.540CXDOCS::BARNESFri Aug 04 1995 16:174
    I dunno...if you started a tree, you'd prolly be the only leaf, branch,
    trunk and insect life associated with that tree!!!  ;^)
    
    rfb
85.541AWECIM::RUSSOclaimin!Fri Aug 04 1995 17:3610
    
    >>    I dunno...if you started a tree, you'd prolly be the only leaf,
    branch,
    >>    trunk and insect life associated with that tree!!!  ;^)
    
    Hey, not so fast.....
    
    Hogan, ex-band geek, who marched in his college marching band, and knows
    the excitement of it all, but also understands the differences between
    "marching bands" and drum & bugle corps.
85.542?CSLALL::LEBLANC_CIn n' out of the Gaahden they go!Fri Aug 04 1995 17:401
    so what *IS* the difference?
85.543STOWOA::JOLLIMOREOneWhiteDuck/0^10=nothing at allFri Aug 04 1995 18:1013
	drum corps *hate* being refered to as a band.
	
	when i was in the kingsmen, we did a performance for a local
	state rep that was fundraising and who had ted kennedy as a
	guest. at the end of our performance ted yels out: "let's hear it
	for the band!!"  we wanted to throw things at him.  ;-)
	
	drum corps have fewer instruments. basically only drums (or any
	percussion instrumnet) and bugles. No woodwind, no flutes, no
	trombones etc. although, there are different bugles:  soprano,
	bass, contra-bass, mellophone and french horn.
	
	jols (first soprano)
85.544CXDOCS::BARNESMon Aug 07 1995 13:303
    I guess the groups in the parking lot *don't* qualify then, eh????? ;^)
    
    rfb
85.545STOWOA::JOLLIMOREOneWhiteDuck/0^10=nothing at allMon Aug 14 1995 12:3742
	Santana/Beck, Great Woods
	
	Man, whatta show. Me, Penny, DC, MNelson, DaveB & crew.
	Got to the parking lot at about 5:00. Had beeyas and veggie
	sandwiches. Cranked some live Santana and enjoyed the beautiful
	sunshine. Fantastic day!
	
	Went in to get our beach seats (hard to call 'em lawn seats when
	the lawn is under 4 inches of sand ;-) Keb Mo, a bluesmon,
	started off the show at about 7:00 and played 'til about 7:20 or
	so. At 7:30, Beck took the stage. I've never seen Beck, and I'm
	not real familiar with his work. His set was hot, with a lot of
	dancin' tunes. He played 'til 8:45, which was followed by some
	grate Hendrix tunes while waiting for Carlos.
	
	At the end of about the 5th Hendrix tune, Carlos was on stage
	starting his set, by himself, gently warming up his axe. As he
	was noodling, flowers were being thrown on the stage. Carlos
	picked up a bunch of flowers, which looked to be roses, and took
	them to the back of the stage where he had pictures of Jerry set
	up, like on a little altar. Very touching.
	
	I don't have the setlist, but he played a couple tunes, then
	introduced Ronnie Earl!! Ronnie played two tunes, one of which he
	did a killer solo. It was grate to see Ronnie up there with
	Carlos. Then, they went into a smokin' version of _Exodus_
	("movement of da people") and into a little bit of _Get Up Stand
	Up_. After that, we could see Carlos signaling for quiet on the
	stage and he went into a solo _Amazing Grace_ and we knew it was
	coming. The camera had him playing, and in back of him you could
	see the pictures. He started a monologue, and he asked for a
	round of applause for his good friend Jerry, as well as for all
	those who have gone on, of which he rattled off about a dozen
	names.
	
	The rest of the show is a blur, and it ended waaay too soon. And
	all during the show, there was a bright ole moon just up over the
	shed. And the meteors were zooming by all night, one of which got
	OOOOHS from the crowd around us. Everyone must've been looking up
	at the same time  ;-)
	
	An excellent show, and a grate time.
85.546AWATS::WESTERVELTMon Aug 14 1995 13:067
    Very nice tribute from Carlos.  Great to see Ronnie Earl up	there.

    Beck rules.  IMHO nobody even comes close.

    
    Tom
85.547Soul soothing musicSALEM::BENJAMINMon Aug 14 1995 15:584
      At the HORDE festival, on Sat. night, Blues Traveler dedicated a
    song to Jerry and Jon Popper played an awesome guitar solo instead of
    harp....sign in the parking lot: Free hugs to anyone who misses
    Jerry........sigh...
85.548ZENDIA::FERGUSONDry your eyes on the windTue Aug 15 1995 14:212
	WOW! Ronnie makes an appearance.  Nice.
	miss them bull shows.
85.549STOWOA::JOLLIMOREOneWhiteDuck/0^10=nothing at allTue Aug 15 1995 14:256
	oh yeah, that reminds me ... a footnote to this show: towards the
	end of the show, Carlos *LET* people up on stage to dance. I was
	watching through binoculars, and the security doods must've been
	going nuts. There were no problems that I could see, but I've
	*never* seen that before. There must've been about 30 people on
	stage, all around Santana, dancin'.
85.550CXDOCS::BARNESTue Aug 15 1995 14:327
    
    
    
             %^)
    
    
    
85.551dave mathews at red rocksCXDOCS::BARNESWed Aug 16 1995 16:3724
                         -< Dave Matthews at RedRocks >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Patty and I finally got to see Dave Mathews last nite after missing him
    3 times in Vegas. The show was at Red Rocks, where we first saw the
    Dead. Sorta emotional at first, but we were there to have a good time
    so I focused on the music and the dancing. The crowd was a bunch of
    very very VERY young people, many kids looked 12 or younger. Even the
    collage kids looked younger than usual! But only saw two puke %^)
    
    Patty knows his songs so she was really into it, dancin away. The first 
    part of the show we were way back up top, the sound sucked so we 
    moved down close and off to the sides. Much better. Mathews 
    dances while he sings, at one point he was jammin away on the gitbox and 
    dancin up a storm when a beach ball bounced up on the stage. 
    Without missing a beat or a step, he kicks the ball back out into the 
    audience and smiles. The crowd up front went wild. He closed with
    Typical Situation-->Watchtower. Good time. We needed it...
    
    this note continues in note 473.21
    
    rfb

    
    
85.552good bluesCSLALL::LEBLANC_CWithoutLoveDayToDayInsanity'sKingMon Aug 28 1995 20:0012
    robert cray, taj mahal, charlie musselwhite and john hammond
    
    verrrrry cool show....and the sitting on the trials at loon looking
    down on the lodge thing was pretty cool..they should have more ski areas do
    that...Cray had a little trouble with the Strat to start but swapped
    axes and tore the place up....
    nice weather and a good shot looking right into the whites as a
    backdrop....
    
    nice sittin on top of the world done by musselwhite
    
    
85.553ZENDIA::FERGUSONDry your eyes on the windMon Aug 28 1995 21:2510
re  <<< Note 85.552 by CSLALL::LEBLANC_C "WithoutLoveDayToDayInsanity'sKing" >>>
                                -< good blues >-

>    verrrrry cool show....and the sitting on the trials at loon looking
>    down on the lodge thing was pretty cool..they should have more ski areas do
>    that...Cray had a little trouble with the Strat to start but swapped


yup... sounds very close to what they do at sugarbush for their
summer concert series.
85.554STAR::ECOMAN::DEBESSif my words did glow...Mon Nov 13 1995 17:1646
	Saturday night, as I stood waiting for my friend to show up	
	with my ticket in, I observed as the beautiful blackhaired,
	darkeyed be-jeweled sandaled women in their silky, satiny, brightly 
	colored flowing saris and shawls disembarked from their cars and glided 
	across the streets to greet eachother and enter the hall.  They were 
	of all ages - from children to crones - there to see the master
	tabla player born in their country - Zakir Hussein.

	The other half of the crowd was beautiful longhaired men and women
	dressed in brightly colored flowing skirts and sandals...and tiedye 
	and jeans, and tshirts with skeletons and roses - the Deadheads.

	My friend is from India and we oftentimes in the past talked about 
	music - in particular percussion.  I told her about the connection
	between Zakir and Mickey Hart (Diga Rhythm), and when this show
	was announced, she thought of me and got me tickets.
	In a way, I felt like the link between the 2 cultures - not really -
	but there was an definate affinity with each group.  I was there
	with an Indian woman but I felt comfortable smiling brightly at each
	and every one of the 'heads I encountered.
	
	The music - ahhhhh, well - Zakir was accompanied by someone (don't
	know his name) on sitar - just the two of them, two masters simply
	mesmerizing the crowd with their brilliance.  If I hadn't seen 
	them with my own eyes, I would never have believed that the sounds
	I was hearing was being made by only 2 people.  Unbelievably 
	intricate rhythms and hundreds of different sounds coming from
	just those 2 instruments.  The tabla is 2 drums - one is a bass
	which most times is played with the palm and produces a water-like
	sound.  The other one is played with, for the most part, the fingertips.
	But, he not only had rhythms going with each hand, but also with
	each finger in each hand.  Unreal.  The songs would start out very
	slowly, as if to put you into a trance of sorts.  And by the end,
	they were so fast that you couldn't see the fingers moving.

	They played classical pieces and folk songs.  The more knowledgeable
	in the audience, the Indians, seemed to know these songs very well,
	they knew what to expect when.  But my friend, during the break,
	mentioned to me "they seem to be improvising quite a bit" ;-)...
	[could that be someone's (who we know and love) influence?]

	It was wonderful.

	Debess

85.555thanks Debess!AITRNG::DWESThis job is to shed light...Mon Nov 13 1995 18:355
    :^)
    
    and since SOMEONE has to ask....  were there tapers?  :^)
    
    					da ve
85.556ASOLOK::BELKINRIP Jerome J. GarciaMon Nov 13 1995 20:435
debess... be sure to see the excellent review of that show in today's (Monday)
Boston Globe.  Maybe you can find it at library...
the reviewer even mentioned the names of the 2 ragas played.

 - Josh
85.557MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREI'm drowning in youWed Nov 15 1995 12:2372
      Khan, Hussain Charm and Mesmerize
 
      By Elijah Wald, Globe Correspondent, 11/13
 
      CAMBRIDGE - Indian classical music is so often lauded for its
      depth and complexity that one forgets that it can also be light
      and charming. Saturday's performance by sitarist Shujaat Khan
      and tabla star Zakir Hussain was one of the most enjoyable
      concerts in recent memory, earning frequent bursts of applause
      and two wild standing ovations.
 
      SHUJAAT KHAN and USTAD ZAKIR HUSSAIN
 
      Hussain, a frequent visitor to Cambridge, is son of the great
      tabla drummer Alla Rakha and is internationally famous for his
      astonishing virtuosity. Khan, who was making his first area
      appearance, is also son of a famous father, sitar giant Vilayat
      Khan. The two players meshed with the perfect understanding of
      a new generation carrying on a shared tradition. In a world
      where many young artists are straining for mature profundity,
      Khan and Hussein instead demonstrated the sweet strengths of
      youth.
 
      The first half of the concert consisted of the raga Jhinjoti,
      played in a 16-beat cycle. As always, the long opening
      improvisation featured Khan unaccompanied. He played relaxed,
      melodic lines, enjoying the supple strings of notes that seemed
      to flow effortlessly from his fingers.
 
      Sometimes he would concentrate on a single note, approaching it
      with different rhythmic and tonal attacks. As he speeded up, he
      released flurries of sound, always resolving with a gentle bit
      of melody and a smile and nod to Hussain. Then he would be off
      again, mimicking the musical lines with little shakes and dips
      of his head.
 
      Hussain joined in for the composed section, and Khan surprised
      some of the audience by singing a lovely, flowing lyric. Though
      typical of his family, the singing is an unusual touch for an
      Indian instrumentalist and provided a beautiful interlude that
      Khan capped with lilting, voicelike phrases on his sitar. He
      and Hussain seemed to play almost like a single person, each
      taking care to frame the other's solo moments. Khan would take
      a wild solo while Hussain kept a steady rhythmic pulse, then
      would play spare single notes behind Hussain's skittering
      improvisations.
 
      The two built to a fiery close, Khan's screaming high notes
      taking on a rock 'n' roll flamboyance and Hussain unleashing
      blinding bursts of rhythm. Unfortunately, as Khan strummed
      harder on the drone strings the sound became a bit muddy and
      his lead lines got buried. The energy carried them through,
      though, and brought the crowd to its feet.
 
      The second half featured some deeper, more profoundly
      ornamented playing on the raga Malkauns, again in 16, though it
      retained much of the bright feel of the previous piece. The
      players' partnership was particularly striking when they began
      the traditional sequence of matched, dueling phrases. This is
      usually a moment where musicians show their competitive edge,
      but instead Khan and Hussain worked as a team, putting musical
      unity ahead of ego.
 
      The evening ended with ``Pahadi Dhun,'' a folk song that again
      demonstrated Khan's vocal gifts and brought sighs from the
      audience. The airy lightness of the tune was perfectly suited
      to his style, Hussain provided an ideal rhythmic complement,
      and it is hard to imagine how anyone could have played it
      better.
 
      This story ran on page 33 of the Boston Globe on 11/13.
      -------------------------------------------
85.558AITRNG::DWESThis job is to shed light...Wed Nov 15 1995 13:061
    thank you!
85.559william tell has stretched his bowSTAR::ECOMAN::DEBESSif my words did glow...Wed Nov 15 1995 13:4826
	Thanks Jay for typing that in...

	Last night I was perusing Mickey Hart's "Drumming on the Edge..."
	to look for some photos of Zakir.  There were a few (very)
	interesting stories about him in there.

	But I was reading about his father, Alla Rakha (mentioned in
	this review).  Phil first turned Mickey on to one of Alla Rakha's
	recordings - and he was blown away.  When the Dead were playing
	in NYC, I think, on one of their nights off, he got a chance to
	go see Rakha perform and went backstage afterwards to meet him.
	Rakha invited him to his room to drum - and it was there that he
	was initiated into the idea of polyrhythmic playing - 2 players
	playing at different rhythms but converging on the ONE.

	Afterwards, when the band returned home, they immersed themselves
	into this idea, they just spent hours and hours and days and days
	playing at different time signatures and converging on the ONE.
	Mickey said this is when they changed from a blues band to start
	on their journey of polyrhythmic rock.  This is where "The Eleven"
	came from...

	Well, these details may be wrong, but you get the idea...

	Debess
85.560RICKS::CALCAGNIFast, Cheap, Good: choose any twoWed Nov 15 1995 13:528
    great note, debess.  Made me wish I had gone.  I'm always struck by
    the audiences at Indian classical music concerts.  Entire families
    come together, dressed in their finest, totally immersing themselves
    in an evening of intense improvisational music.  They obviously hold
    these events and this music in high regard.  It's very inspiring.
    
    /rick
    
85.561MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREI'm drowning in youWed Nov 15 1995 14:154
	da ve, debess; you're welcome.
	tho, i didn't type it.
	a coupla clicks was all it took  ...
	
85.562ASDG::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Fri Feb 09 1996 11:1715
85.563TEPTAE::WESTERVELTFri Feb 09 1996 12:394
    I'm up for it, if anyone wants to go next week lemme know.

    Tom
85.564SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Mon Feb 12 1996 13:1010
85.565maybe they'll DO a tunePCBUOA::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Mar 13 1996 16:066
    word is that the allmans did a st stephen jam in one  of their shows
    the other night at the beacon theatre....
    
    
    what is next? dark star jam?
    :^)
85.566ASABET::DCLARKvoodoo mathematicianThu Mar 14 1996 12:133
    re .-1
    
    I heard they're doing a Day Job jam at sound checks :-)
85.567MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways stop at the topMon Apr 01 1996 16:5160
			    Lou Reed settles for less
		     By Jim Sullivan, Globe Staff, 04/01/96

   One of the proudest-sounding songs Lou Reed and his backing trio played
Saturday night at the Orpheum Theatre was a thumper called "Doing the Things
that We Want to," which is about exactly what the title suggests. Drummer Tony
Smith contributed a pummeling coda that punched up the singer's declaration of
intent. Problem was: The song is no great shakes, just the artist's claim to be
looking out for No. 1, with various details scattered like thought debris
through one or two chords.

    And that's rather what we got at Reed's two-hour set. We got a chunk of
songs from Reed's latest album, ``Set the Twilight Reeling'' - a smart chunk,
the best of it - and then we got an edited trip through Reed's substantial
catalog. That catalog includes some pretty stellar work that Reed wrote with
the Velvet Underground, a band that went into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame
earlier this year. What did he play that represented that era?

    ``Sweet Jane,'' his obligatory concert kickoff for centuries, and ``I'm
Waiting for the Man,'' the tense, futility-of-coping song, which segued into
``Vicious.'' That was it. No ``Heroin.'' No ``Femme Fatale.'' No ``White
Light/White Heat.'' No ``Rock and Roll,'' for goodness sake, the most
celebratory song any rocker's ever penned. He also cut the bits from ``Magic &
Loss,'' his serious album of 1992, which were encores earlier on this tour, in
favor of yet another run-through of ``Walk on the Wild Side'' and a metallic,
grinding ``Satellite of Love.''

    No one, certainly, is asking Reed to go on living in the past.  He sang ``A
new self is born, another self dead/I accept the newfound man and set the
twilight reeling'' in ``Set the Twilight Reeling,'' which boasted a possessed,
machine-gun like coda. You could not, would not, want to deny Reed that right
of reinvention Certainly his new material, on the whole, has a hopeful,
uplifting spirit about it, no doubt due in part to his rapturous relationship
with Laurie Anderson. But perhaps we, out in the audience, are looking for a
better balance, more dimension.

    Before Saturday's Final Four-resistant (but mostly sitdown) soldout crowd,
Reed selected to play throwaways like ``I Love You Suzanne,'' a simple pop
ditty pumped up way too long, and ``Video Violence,'' where you resonate to the
line ``This is the age of video violence'' and realize that may not be such a
great thing. Of course, there's the already infamous ``Egg Cream,'' from his
latest album, in which Reed devotes the entirety of the song to the joys of the
concoction and makes us wince with lines like ``I steam/You scream/We all want
egg cream.'' What redeems some of these choices was simply the gritty, gnarly,
attacking guitar sound Reed and Mike Rathke have fashioned, as well as bassist
Fernando Saunders' ever-supple, spry bottom end. We may be talking four or five
chords, but they know their way around these chords.  As a unit, they can
toughen up some mediocrities and filler tunes to the point where you're
thinking ``Hmmm, this `Video Violence' thing is kind of meaty,'' until you snap
to it and realize what you're missing. Some of the old gristle and grit, a
glimpse of the harrowing depths of ``Berlin,'' say. You're appreciative that
Reed's current silly love song, ``HookyWooky,'' at least has enough of the old
Lou in it that he wants to greet his new lover's ex-boyfriends by tossing them
all under the wheels of a car on Canal Street.

    Luna, Dean Wareham's clear descendent of the Velvet Underground, opened
with a compelling, ebb-and-flow set (displaying much more sting these days) and
was even joined by Uncle Lou on its final song, ``Ride Into the Sun.''

This story ran on page 38 of the Boston Globe on 04/01/96.
85.568E::EVANSMon Apr 01 1996 18:029
I went to the Reed show.  I was hopeful after the "Sweet Jane" opener, but 
things never seemed to pickup from there.  Maybe it was our seats, but I'm 
no longer so fond of distorted guitar music played really loud.  I agree 
totally with the review that he didn't play much of his best material 
(especially Heroin, Rock and Roll and White Light/White Heat).  While not 
a BAD show, it was pretty lame given the material he had available.

Jim

85.569SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Mon Apr 01 1996 19:2116
I on the other hand think it was a great show :)

Ya sure he could've done a greatest hits show but afterall he does have
a new album.  I thought his band was excellent.  The guitar work was 
excellent....

bob

ps.  I would have liked to hear other stuff besides what the reviewer
Sullivan picked as "why didn't he play these"....I would have rather heard
some of the "downer" material a la Berlin.

pps.  I thought "New York City Man" was fantastic - I've never heard the
new lp but liked all I heard ... 

Oh well, to each his own...
85.570Another LouTNPUBS::ROGERSMon Apr 01 1996 19:5730
Lou did a decent job of covering his 30-year Velvet/solo career. There were 
a couple of lame choices ("I Love you Suzanne" springs to mind) and some real 
omissions (nothing from "Berlin" or "Metal Machine Music"-;)). About halfway 
the show his vocals got lost in the mix or drowned out by his guitar, and he 
did have his guitar cranked way up. He proved that he is an excellent guitar 
player but I would have preferred more of his vocals. 

He played most of his new album--I counted six songs from it but can't 
remember all of the titles here ("Riptide," "Egg Cream," Sex with Your
Parents," and Hooky Wooky").

I'm hoping he'll work out some of the sound mix kinks and listen to more of 
the audience's requests. The setlists have changed over the course of the 
tour, which ended in New York last night, based on songs people were hollering 
for. He should be back again this summer.

I was impressed that he came out and cranked for two plus hours. Still, the
highlight of the show to me was his performing  "Ride 
Into the Sun" with Luna, the warmup band. As good as Lou's band is, and 
they're *excellent*, I'd like to see him use Luna as his backup band. They 
had their Velvet chops/style down cold and were somewhat sloppy. Lou's band 
was almost too polished.

It's been several years since I've been in the Orpheum and it hasn't lost 
any of its "charm," and every cigarette smoker in New England must have
been in the lobby between acts. I quit a couple of years ago but left 
feeling like I'd smoked over a pack...

Mike

85.571MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways stop at the topTue Apr 02 1996 11:4011
	i agree with mike on the vocals. it got really hard to understand
	him. and i thought his guitar playing was excellent. and he
	didn't lack for guitars either. he had 6 and i saw him play 5 of
	them. i decided i liked the red one best ;-)
	
	but, i disagree with the luna/lou_backup_band. i didn't
	particularly like luna's rough sound. but, i rilly liked the
	polished sound of lou's band. then again, i could picture luna
	after a couple of years backing lou. if only the bass player
	would stand still.  ;-)
	
85.572SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Tue Apr 02 1996 13:107
I think Luna is happy to be Luna - but then I really don't know.  Lou *is* 
their hero....

Luna suffered the "opener's slot".  What they play 5 or 6 songs in 45-55 
mins???

:)  
85.573set the twilight reelingTEPTAE::WESTERVELTwhat's up widdat?Tue Apr 02 1996 13:284
    Lou, I thought it was great.  Also the new album is excellent

    Tom
85.574QUOIN::BELKINbut from that cup no moreTue Apr 02 1996 13:5510
Yeah, I too had trouble hearing some of Lou's vocals - I think cause it was
so loud (even with the earplugs pushed in so far they were touching each
other in the middle :-).  The tape is fairly clear though.
I liked the way Lou would play off Fernando, the bass player.

I was in a certain record shop in Harvard Square on Sunday and out of 
curiousity checked out their Lou Reed, uh, underground CDs.  One had a 25 
minute version of "I'm Waiting for the Man".   

 Josh
85.575Go Bruce!BINKLY::CEPARSKII'll Get A New Start...Mon Apr 15 1996 13:1026
    Friday April 12, 1996
    The Fillmore
    San Francsico CA
    
    Bruce Hornsby
    
    About two hours into the set by Hornsby and his band, they were joined
    by special guests (for about 45 minutes to end the show). Here's what
    went down in the time period.
    
    Sugaree * 
    On The Western Skyline * +
    Masterpiece * +
    Jack Straw *
    Truckin' **
    Lovelight **
    Not Fade Away **
    
    E: 
    The Weight **
    
    *  with Bob Weir on electric 
    ** with Weir and Phil Lesh
    +  Hornsby on accordian
    
                                  
85.576EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSsuch a long long time 2B goneMon Apr 15 1996 13:274
	this is the BEST way to start the week!  Phil playing again!!!!!
	YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

85.577SPECXN::BARNESMon Apr 15 1996 13:333
    I WANNA TAPE!!!!!!!
    
    rfb
85.578but then, I expected it to happenEVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSknockin' on HEAVEN'S door!Mon Apr 15 1996 20:4117

	I don't know if I've said it in here...but I know that I was saying
	it this past weekend to Guntis, while listening to a blistering
	tape together..."If -I- could play music like this, I wouldn't
	want to stop"...and he was kinda saying, well they did it for 30
	years, blah blah blah...but, I just -love- it so much and they
	did too, so -how- could they just stop.  I -am- looking forward
	to hearing where they're headed creatively now...but, but...
	how could they stop playing together?

	I am SO THRILLED to know that Phil came and played some of the
	music we love so much!

	just hadda say it!
	Debess

85.579USOPS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyMon Apr 15 1996 20:593
    
    AMEN!  Go Phil GO!
    
85.580:^)NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue Apr 16 1996 13:169
yeah, tapes would be cool...

i'm psyched at this too...  cuz Bob and Phil are out playing wiht Bruce...
cuz Bruce is out playing...  and just cuz... :^)

any idea who is in Bruces band these days?  is he back with the range
or winging it again with another small group?

				da ve
85.581EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSit's all over now, baby blueMon Apr 22 1996 13:0323
from the internet: review of Bobby and PHIL LESH Jam with BRUCE in SF

     Before Bruce Hornsby's show at the Fillmore in San Fransisco on
Friday 4-12-96, there were many Phil and Bob sightings and indeed Bob's
guitar was seen onstage.  After a long, energetic set by Hornsby and
band,
Bob took the stage in the middle of a great rendition of Sugaree.  He
added some nice licks and played well on Hornsby's Western Skyline, but
things didn't heat up until Bob took lead vocals on Masterpiece.  An
insane version of Jack Straw followed and Phil was seen dancing on the
side of the stage with his bass!  Our wishes came true when Hornsby's
bass
player, himself an excellent musician, graciously allowed Phil to take
his
place.  The Truckin'>Lovelight>NFA that followed left the crowd glowing.
Bob even jumped up and sat on Bruce's piano to play during Lovelight.
Phil played from his heart.  After leaving the stage briefly, they came
back out to play an inspired The Weight for the encore with, ofcourse,
everyone singing a verse.  The crowd was nuts the whole time our friends
were onstage and I think they felt very comfortable playing with Bruce's
talented band.  Before they played, Bruce said they were "going to
eulogize a good friend" and that they did.

85.582ZENDIA::FERGUSONMr. Plumber's coding servicesMon Apr 22 1996 15:0417
Awesome!
chills down my arms!





on another note....

saw cowboy junkies last friday.
very mellow music and a sit-down show.

margo timmins's voice is, in a word, *magical*
deb and i marvelled at the thought of jerry and margo playing
together...

good show, worth seeing again.
85.583EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSsugar magnolia blosoms bloomnMon May 13 1996 14:3215
the Allman Bros. did a 10 minute Dark Star jam last week!
this mini-review I got off r.m.gd:

Allmans 5-4-96

Last night at the Palace Theater in Louisville, KY. The Allman Brothers 
Jammed Dark Star for about 10 minutes.  You could tell all of the heads 
in the crowd as they (and me ) went absolutely bonkers.  They jammed 
quite well and I was very impressed.  As a nice touch, they had a video 
screen and flashed faint pictures of Jerry and the Boys up during the 
song.  This was my first Allman Bros. show and I was quite impressed.  
They played for more than 3 hours.


85.584sweetness on the keysSALEM::BENJAMINFri May 26 1995 13:417
       Bruce Hornsby rules on the piano...!!!  even tho they kicked us out
    of Avalon at 10 o'clock, Bruce was jammin'...only played one dead song
    ( Sugaree) plus Masterpiece (on accordian) and mystery train...must be
    saving them up for some other tour...very nice show.....
    
    
                :-) daveb
85.585MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREquick beat of an icy heartTue May 28 1996 11:5633
	grate show, indeed!
	
	went with reilly. and, i talked him into driving. we headed in at
	about 4:00 or so. found the way in, no problem. i showed reilly
	the garage right near the avalon, but we found a spot on the
	street. i read the meter: free after 6pm. grate. but, it was only
	5:30 and we forgot to feed the meter. free parking turned into
	$10 parking!
	
	went to the boston beer works and met the rest of the groton
	contigent. had a boston red and an ipa. Mm-mm. headed into the
	avalon to hear Aquarium Rescue Unit. Yeowza. these boys can rock.
	this was the last show of the tour and they were headin back.
	they seemed at odds at having to play at 7pm and commented on it
	twice. but, man. the bass player is awesome. and the long haired
	blonde greg allman looking dood playing guitar was no slouch
	either.   ;-) i'd like to see themn again.
	
	bruce came out wearing, what i guess is his standard attire: dark
	slacks and a collarerd shirt. picked up a bunch of papers, all
	requests from the audience, got to one of them and nodded his
	head like: "yeah, this is the one" and just started. he kept
	getting new requests, sorting throught them and choosing. he
	really looks like he's having a grate time. i don't know the
	setlist. there were tapers there. i'd sure like to hear a tape.
	he made a reference to jerry before one song. i can;t wait to see
	him again, twice.  ;-)
	
	the show was way too short. and the avalon nearly literally
	sweeps you out of there. the ride home was, ah, interesting. took
	the long way out of boston. reilly was flustered, to say the
	least. i was crispy, having fished in the morning at 5:30 and NO
	NAP!!  ;-)  
85.586DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meTue May 28 1996 14:339
    
    >the show was way too short. and the avalon nearly literally
    >sweeps you out of there. the ride home was, ah, interesting.
   
    	I don't know about other people but this sort of thing at 
    	Boston clubs really pisses me off.
    
    	Paradise and Avalon to name a couple.  Not in business for 
    	the pleasure of fans.  >:-|
85.587ARBEIT::DEMARSEEnjoy beingTue May 28 1996 14:565
    They want to bump people out fast so they can clean up and reopen
    an hour later for people to "dohnce dohnce dohnce", and charge $10
    at the door.
    
    in other words, make twice as much money in one night
85.588plus ca change, plus c'est le meme choseNECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue May 28 1996 15:0210
	the more things change, the more they stay the same...

	i'm reading Bill Graham's auto biography (yes Jamie...
	i'm *STILL* reading it :^)  and it's chock full of stories
	about how they would run a show, clear the hall, run a show...

	or run a show, fail to clear the hall, and have a really full house...

				da ve
85.589ya know it ain't easy...JARETH::LARUTue May 28 1996 15:0314
85.590Gotta balance out that life expectancy thingWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeTue May 28 1996 15:055
    MANY?
    
    not in this notesfile
    that is for damned sure Bruce
    :^)
85.591aye yai yaiDELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meTue May 28 1996 15:2414
    
    >    They want to bump people out fast so they can clean up and reopen
    >    an hour later for people to "dohnce dohnce dohnce", and charge $10
    >    at the door.
              
    	Oh my God!!  
    
    	That is so corny it's suddenly become difficult to digest my 
    	coffee and oatmeal.  
    
    	"hey! cool man! alright!  Let's go pay $10 to listen to 
    	 prerecorded techno and pay $4.00 per beer!!!"
    
    	"oh cool man! alright! Whoopee!"
85.592ASDG::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Tue May 28 1996 18:4710
re: <<< Note 85.588 by NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notes "i believe in Chemo-Girl!!!" >>>
    
    >	i'm reading Bill Graham's auto biography (yes Jamie...
    >	i'm *STILL* reading it :^)
    
    Ha, I've been meaning to ask you about that.  Not that I'm in a rush to
    get it back, but I wasn't sure you remembered borrowing it from me that
    night.  :-)
    
    Jamie
85.593:^)NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue May 28 1996 18:5313
	let's see...  what i remmeber about that night...

	drinking beer...  playing cards...  drinking beer...  listening to
	fog's new cd of current artists playing old tv cartoon theme
	songs...  drinking beer...  winning thousands of dollars and 
	losing the national debt...  drinking more beer...  borrowing
	that book...  drinking more beer...

	other than the occasional pee-break and some uncontrollable laughter,
 	did i leave anything out?  :^)

				da ve
85.594ASDG::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Tue May 28 1996 19:175
    re .-1
    
    yep: admiring my carpentry skills and me physically throwing everyone
    out at 4:30 when Wally started talking politics.  :-)
    
85.595NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue May 28 1996 20:388
	oh yeah...  the whole thing did start out to be a celebration
	of your new closet!  :^)

	and the Dude...  friends shouldn't let friends listen to Rush
	Limbaugh...  :^)

				da ve
85.596MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREquick beat of an icy heartFri May 31 1996 14:3432
Mini review:     Laguna Seca Days
		 by Robert Hunter

    Just another Dead crowd, only not so crazy. All the West Coast locals
were there in force, looking exactly like before, selling the same old
stuff - there was a tasteful near absence of Garcia exploitation. People
have had enough of that.It's for tourists.  It wasn't a backward looking
crowd.  Break your neck that way. I bought a leather Clint Eastwood hat
I'll probably never wear again but it kept my head warm in the cold wind.
I wandered around the bazaar for an hour, drinking it in like wine,
looking, absorbing, seeing it anew. How else would it be?  Just folks.You
folks.I won't paint you a picture. Like I say, I bought a hat.  You know
how it goes.
	
    First time out equipment problems made Mickey's show closer an hour
late. The cold wind whipped up in the dark, the rain drizzled, but once
the music started, nobody wanted it to quit.  Mick strutted the stage, so
proud of his new band he could pop.  He did vocals up front, wagging a
finger at the audience like the preacher's son he is. RAMU was a child's
wonder toy in his hands "Up, mighty bird, away!" He thinks of it as
Tarzan's eagle. From "Only the Strange Remain" to a token "Not Fade away"
we were privileged to see the birth of a potent and believable new band
last night.
	
    10pm curfew came all too soon - Mick marched the six Mint Juleps off
in a conga line, then conga-ed back on for the encore. The ladies loved
the audience. They weren't sure what to expect. East End Londoners on
utterly foreign turf, they glowed with heart, soul and polish. The drums
were the hippest ever played behind pop music. All was as it should be.
How good this ensemble will get on the huge number of gigs facing them is
anybody's guess.
	
85.597Don't be hanging round that ole Catfish JohnWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeThu Jun 06 1996 13:5526
    DC and I met up here at DAS and drove down to the Fenway for some beers
    at the Cask and Flagon..watched the Sox and stumbled over to Mama Kin's
    about 8:30..got a real nice look inside there finally as it was rather
    empty before the show
    Some shots and handbills of the boys at the Ark and the Tea Party..
    Little bit of Hendrix memorabilia..oh yeah, and all sorts of
    Aerosmith nostalgia :^)
    headed over to check out the opening band, The Agitators..
    Kinda like second wave ska...very upbeat..good drummer and bass player
    (a la Sly and Robbie :^)
    
    about 1045 toots makes it out for a set that included such faves as 
    54-46 That's My Number
    Time Tough
    Pressure Drop
    Country Road
    a nice I've got a Feeling that had some Lovelite raps and riffs
    intertwined with it..kinda Pigpen rocking style
    
    
    just when it couldn't get any better....he surprises the few heads in
    the crowd with a perfect
    CATFISH JOHN!
    
    Pisser show..... for an old man he can still rock the house
                                     
85.598DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meMon Jun 17 1996 18:0914
    
    Saw The Susan Tedeski (sp?) Band on Saturday night at Johny D's and I 
    thought they were out of this world.  
    
    Adrienne Hayes (often sat in with Ronnie Earl) plays outstanding and 
    accomplished lead guitar for the band.  Susan T's presentation is so 
    incredibly sexy.  Her voice is highly distinguishable and her vibrant 
    personality darts out from the stage.  After the 1st set, I was so 
    blown away I bought a CD and had it personalized by Susan and Adrienne 
    themselves.  I've only listened to three or four songs on the CD and it's 
    already proven to be quite an investment.  Some of the songs are like 
    lulaby's and others are rip'n and rage'n, old-time sounding, blues. 
    Real glad I took a moment to check these guys out...when's the next
    gig????  ;-)    
85.599USOPS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyMon Jun 17 1996 21:056
    
    Hey Deano,
      I've seen the Susan Tedeski Band several times.  They are pissah! 
    I like 'em more every time I see 'em. 
    
    	Mark
85.600DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meTue Jun 18 1996 14:024
    
    I agree.  They ahhh pretty pissahhh.
    
    and, I think I'm in love.
85.601RAGE::JCYou name it, I do itTue Jun 18 1996 18:0916
Dood, you psyched i convinced ya to come'on out??
:-)
Now, i gotta get ya to go see Rick Russel.  he's got, imo, the
best white bluesmon vocals in boston, not to mention, he jams hahd
on that ax!

I think it is spelled Susan Tedeschi, but not 100% pos-E-teev.
i seen them maybe 6 times... once at Hahpers ferry over the winter
and susan had longer hair and wore it done.  at times, i thought
she was gonna break out into a Janis Joplin number... definitely
a sexy, talented musician...

johnny d's sound system leaves much to be desired though.  it
pretty much is the pits, imo... need to upgrade and get something
better.  i find an excellent sound system does a lot for a bands
presentation.
85.602TEPTAE::WESTERVELTTue Jun 18 1996 19:558
    But Johnny's is a great place to see a show.  I like to
    go early and have dinner, thus scarfing up a ringside
    seat for the show.

    They have a good menu.

    Tom
85.603you'd be cocked by 10pm!RAGE::JCYou name it, I do itTue Jun 18 1996 20:193
Never had dinnah there; we were going to do that on
friday, but they said ya gotta be there by 7:15... a little
early for a 10:00pm show!
85.604NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue Jun 18 1996 21:185
JC, you say that like it's a bad thing....  :^)

i ate at Johnny's once... not bad at all...  kind food too...

			da ve
85.605SPECXN::BARNESTue Jun 18 1996 21:261
    kind food??????    first time i've heard that!!!!
85.606warning! da ve digression alert!! :^)NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue Jun 18 1996 21:5335
:^)

actually, it's something i picked up at shows that i've kind of
made into something for myself...  i used to keep a diet of
what i calld "kind food" and when i did, i was probably keeping 
as healthy as ever...

for me, "kind food" is a pretty broad category that covers a lot 
of ground... i still try to eat "kind food" but i don't do as well
with it as i used to...  :^(   when i think of "kind food" it's sort
of on a sliding scale...  on one end, there's the whole vegan thing
of no animal products...  this is the ultimate "kind food" for me...
the other end of the scale is the venison steaks in my freezer
from the deer my brother shot...  or the veal or lamb chops that
are very yummy with mashed potatoes and gravy but are pretty
"unkind" in the way that the animal was raised or slaughtered...

veggies are "kind food" because no sentient creature had to suffer 
or die so that i could eat...  milk, cheese, eggs and that sort of stuff
also qualifies for the same reason (though they might be considered
less kind due to the conditions at some commercial farms)...  fish,
poultry, and meats are progressively less kind due to the relative
increases in the treatment of the "food sources" (sentient animals
die so i can eat stuff that's not necessarily good for me-unkind in many
respects)...

"be kind" to me is the flip side of "no time to hate"...  for me, these 
are priciples that i try to apply to my life in as many ways as i can...
the concept is a simple yardstick by which i measure my own progress
along the path of my life... it usually works pretty well for me, though
your mileage may vary... :^)

believe it if you need it...

			da ve
85.607NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue Jun 18 1996 21:569
oh, and how that digression applies is, there are lot's 
of vegan items on thier menu at Johnny D's... and other
kind messages about serving free range chickens, supporting
the "adopt a greyhound" folks and stuff like that...

i like the place... yes, they could use better sound, :^), 
but it's a cool place that has cool acts that seems to be run 
by cool people... all of which combine to make it a pretty
kind place... :^)
85.608AWECIM::HANNANBeyond description...Wed Jun 19 1996 13:081
    da ve, you forgot to mention pastrami ;-)
85.609DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meWed Jun 19 1996 13:453
    
    I thought the sound was excellent.  Blew the Bull's soundsystem 
    out of the stratosphere.
85.610there, i said it... :^)NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Jun 19 1996 13:475
pastrami is death...  :^)

i love it, but it's death on a bun with mustard...  

				da ve
85.611kind food and icey cold beers!SPECXN::BARNESWed Jun 19 1996 15:2412
    re; >>actually, it's something i picked up at shows that i've kind of
    made into something for myself...<<
    
    same with us with "icey cold" .....everything is "icey cold" on our
    tourtrips/fishing/etc. trips...weather it is or not...
    "Get yer icey cold beers and worms right here, icey cold..."
    
    da ve ...i'm gonna print out yer "kind food" descriptions for my
    veggiehead daughters, who are into "kind food"....and for Patty who
    owns a "kind food store"...%^)
    
    rfb
85.612eat what you want... die anyway...NECSC::CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Jun 19 1996 17:0028
actually rfb, i'd be interested in thier reaction...  i used to keep 
pretty well veggie and have slipped a lot in the last few years
(and i have the belly to prove it)...  "kind food" came about in
part cuz people would ask me if i was a vegetarian, and i'm not...
mankind was made omnivorous and who am i to argue?  but still,
mankind is supposed to eat more veggies and a lot less meat
than we as a culture have come to know...

vegetarians used to give me a bad time (well, sort of :^) cuz
i wasn't really vegetarian...  and then there's so many other 
"flavors" of vegetarian... (strict vegans, "won't eat it if it has
a face", eat fish but no meat etc...)  so when i'd get into a chat
with someone over my eating style, i'd say i ate "kind food"...

meat is something that i try to think of as "feast food"...  i'd eat it
at other peoples houses (still don't buy it myself)...  

kinda wierd...  man is an omnivore and a preditor...  but i don't want 
something to suffer and/or die so i can  eat...  but i don't want to give up
a natural food source that i enjoy (man NEEDS fat and it's a natural
part fo the diet...  i even heard that the reason we like it is that genetically
we were predisposed to eat lots of it when we could cuz it was, in our
distant past, something we needed and didn't get much of)...  

 what's a kind person to do?
:^)

				da ve
85.613D. Murray's Dark StarBINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungFri Jun 21 1996 20:0713
    Picked up "The David Murray Octet: Dark Star - Songs of the Grateful
    Dead" last night. Pretty damn good I'll say! Instrumental versions of
    Shakedown Street, Samson & Delilah, Estimated Prophet, Dark Star, China
    Doll, One More Saturday Night and the new Weir/Murray Shoulda Had Been
    Me put together the Satchel Page musical. Nice takes on all the tunes.
    Dark Star is pushing 17 minutes - most of the tunes are around 8-9
    minutes so the Octet really gets to stretch out. Most of the tunes are
    similar to what we're all familiar with but some (especially Samson)
    are pretty hard to recognize. Shakedown almost sounds like muzac - like
    I should here it in the grocery store or an elevator somewhere. I like
    tho! I highly recommend this disk to anyone into exploratory jazz type
    music and interested in some new, non-vocal takes of some of our old
    favorites. Oh yeah - some of it sounds like marching band music!!
85.614HELIX::CLARKFri Jun 21 1996 20:409
>                           -< D. Murray's Dark Star >-

  Wow...
  
  Between the David Murray, new releases from Lyle Lovett and Patti Smith,
  those reggae Anthologys (Toots, BSpear)...  Assorted hits collections
  (Shangri-Las, Joan Armatrading, ...)

  I'd say a stop at my local record shoppe is in order.  - JayC.
85.615MAIL1::TURNOFGreetings from the Big AppleWed Jun 26 1996 15:1140
    OK, Allman Bros. last night at Garden St. Arts Ctr.  It was awesome.  A
    few sound adjustments needed in the beginning (too much reverb and bass)
    but when they fixed it the boys cooked.  Lots of jammin' (what else)
    Everyone in good voice.
    
    Here's the set list:
    
    Don't Want You Nomore
    Cross to bear
    Ain't Wastin' Time No More
    Ramblin' Man
    Good Clean Fund
    Worry Down With The Blues
    Tomstone Eyes
    Stand Back
    True Gravity ->
    Other One Jam->
    Drumz (hot)->
    St Stephen Jam->
    True Gravity
    ? (Sounds a little like Stevie Ray's Cold Shot)
    End of the Line
    Change My Way of Living
    No One to Run with
    Where it all Began
    
    E: Franklin's Tower Jam->
    Blue Sky
    Whipping Post
    
    Lots of interplay - the band historically likes this venue - if you
    check the last two live albums (1st Set/2nd Set) a number of tunes were
    recorded here.
    
    The place was jammed and the crowd into them BUT they don't get up and
    dance enough for me!
    
    Have fun at Great Woods!
    
    Fredda  
85.616SPECXN::BARNESWed Jun 26 1996 16:327
    Patty and I are to see the Allmans at Red Rocks this Aug with
    Glennnnnnn Ingalls and wifey
    ...i hope we don't have any problems with the "Set down and stop dancing 
    so i can see those tiny guys on stage" crowd....
    
    at least Glennnn is a big boy....%^)
    rfb
85.617Pouring pouring..but not a drop on meWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Jul 15 1996 12:567
    I do not know if most of the grateful noters are reggae heads or not
    but i think we may have found a site for grateful gatherings in
    vermont......River's Bend Campground was pisser..and if Addison County
    becomes a permanent site for the fest(as it appeared to be).. we should
    all make a trip up there next year..
    i will let jayjolls fill y'all in
    Insert trip report  >here<.....
85.618STAR::64881::DEBESSthe Promised Land callingMon Jul 15 1996 16:299
	when -was- the reggaefest - saturday or sunday?
	I was thinking of you guys as it poured and poured and poured
	and...

	(I was camping too)

	Debess

85.619And it stopped at timesWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Jul 15 1996 16:364
    saturday
    
    to tell you the truth..it really didn't put a damper on anyone's mood
    except for royce.....
85.620STAR::64881::DEBESSthe Promised Land callingMon Jul 15 1996 16:404
	what stopped?  the rain or the music?
	it rained nonstop all day in CT...

85.621Music non stopWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Jul 15 1996 16:493
    
    the rain came in spurts 
    heavier towards the end of the day
85.622STAR::EVANSFri Jul 19 1996 19:0913
I caught Peter Rowan (with Jerry Douglas on Dobro) at Johnny D's last night.
Peter played three songs from Old and In the Way (the three he wrote): 
Panama Red, Midnight Moonlight and Land of the Navajo.  Most of the evening
had a bluegrass feel (as you should expect since Peter WAS once a Bluegrass
Boy in Bill Monroe's band).  The acoustic guitar playing was excellent and 
Jerry Douglas's dobro playing was spectacular - just the two of them playing
two 75-80 minute sets.  Nice place to see folks like this.  I hear he plays
that about twice a year.  I'd go again - especially given the $10 cover and
the chance to be so close to the music.

Jim

85.623SPECXN::BARNESFri Jul 19 1996 19:154
    that sounds good! Our local deadcoverband, Shakedown Street, does a 20
    min Midnight Moonlight that's a favorite with the local "grassheads".
    
    rfb
85.624Allman Brothers Band @ Great Woods, July 19, 1996SUBSYS::TURCOTTEArmand TurcotteMon Jul 22 1996 20:2418
Despite rainy forecasts, the Allman Brothers show at Great Woods
turned out just fine ... don't have a complete songlist, but i
thought it would be cool to post a note with what i felt was the
highlight of the show :

Allman Brothers third song went like this :

   Franklin's Tower intro -> Blue Sky intro -> 
   Franklin's jam -> Blue sky reprise          

it was sweet !  it took about 30 seconds for the crowd to realize
that they were jamming franklin's ... i couldn't believe it ! 

i'm smiling just thinking about it  :~) 

they also had members of the Black Crowes join them on stage later,
although I can't remember what the tune was off hand (sorry) ... but
it was alot of fun !
85.625Had enough Whipping Post for one lifetimeWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeTue Jul 23 1996 11:286
    Arm
    i think the Crows jammed Southbound with them....
    
    is it just me or was this show verrrry similar as far as song selection
    goes?..tho not necessarily identical in the order played..
    I gave the second show higher marks.....
85.626SPECXN::BARNESTue Jul 23 1996 13:495
    almost every ABB tour has the same song selection..been that way 
    forever...same with the Greg Allman Band tours that showed up between
    ABB sabaticals. 
    
    rfb
85.627How I spent my Allman Brother's Show.XLIB::REHILLCall Me Mystery HillTue Jul 23 1996 17:11134
	This will be sort of long.

	I have this good friend, Mark, and his best friend from 
childhood is a real big Allman Brother's fan. This friend has been 
spending a lot of effort to become friends with Kirk West, manager of 
the Allman's. Bootleg CD's, photos, obscure magazine articles, that 
sort of thing.

	So, when the Brothers came to Mansfield in June, there was a 
chance that if I went, I would score a back stage pass. Mark and 
friend have in the past.

	Mark gets us tickets, in Section 8, row H, for the show. The 
friend makes a phone call, to Kirk, and the wheels get turning. We
show up at Will Call, and there is good news and bad news.

	The good news - there is a package for us, with backstage 
passes, and tickets in section 2!!!

	The bad news, there are two backstage/VIP passes and two 
tickets for Section 2.

	(FYI, backstage at Great Woods, is a series of levels of 
security. There are 'After Show' passes and 'Before and After Show' 
passess. These get you through the fence and into the back stage 
outdoor area. There are 'VIP' passes, which also get you inside the 
little cafeteria room, both before and after. There are 'Back Stage'
passes, which get you into the dressing room area. There are 'All 
Access', which get you literally backstage, but not on stage, and 
lastly, there are 'Laminate' On stage passes, which get you 
everywhere.)

	So the friend says to Mark and I, Jody (his girlfriend) and I 
will go in now, and try to get more passes from Kirk for you. You stay 
here, and try and sell these two tickets. (His section 8 seats).

	After a 30 minute wait, he comes back with a pair of 'After 
Show' passes. Cool! So we all go in, we finangle our way through 
security, and all sit in Section 2, Row S, and have a great show.

	Afterwards, its backstage time, and I get a real education.
The 'AS' pass allows me access to the tent, but security stops me from 
getting into the room. The room has a bunch of tables, ice cream, 
soda, coffee, and cakes and pies. Plus a few of the Brothers. Jody
and The Friend, get in, and Mark sneaks in with them. Me, I was a 
country bumpkinm, and foolishly showed my pass. I got to stay outside, 
and look in, with the 'poor people'. As the crowd thinned, Kirk 
finally came out, and waved everyone else in.

	I met Warren Haynes, and Allen Woody, and Kirk West. All real 
nice guys. I started talking guitar hardware with Allen, and we were 
about to head on stage, and look at his gear (a laminate gets you, 
and whoever you want anywhere you want), when he was told the bus was 
leaving. Sigh, maybe next time.....

	I got some autographs on CD covers, and things like that, and 
had a wonderful time.

	So, I figured I should probably go to the next Allman show in 
July. You just never know what might happen.

	So I bought a ticket late, and got a single in Section 7, 
Row S. Mark and Friend already had tikets in the same section, Row D. 
I figured I could probably slide in with them. And well who knows....

	So, the phone call is made, and the message 'I'll leave you 
passess' comes back from Kirk.

	We show up at Great Woods, go to Will Call, and its closed 
until 6:30. Its back to the cars, and dinner, and beverages, and 
waiting. I see several groups of Decheads, and fun is happening all 
around.

	About 6:15 its back to Will Call. There is a package, yep, four 
passes, as before - two VIP and two After Show. We're happy. There 
really isn't much you can do before the show...then we see four 
tickets in the package. We're happier! But its raining, so we head back 
to the cars, to get in out fo the rain, and plan the next hour. In the 
car we notice that the tickets are for Section 2! This is excellent. 
This is the front middle section. We see the seats are for Seats 1,2,3 
and 4. This is pretty good also, as they are on the Allen Woody (bass) 
sie of the stage. Then we look at the row...ROW A!!!!

	Yes, front row, dead center! Best seats in the house!!! Turns 
out that Butch Trcks has a son who goes to school in the area. At the 
first show, the school had an auction, and a cookout, and Butch gave 
the tickets to the school. Great Woods saved them again this time, but 
well, schools out, so Butch didn't need them. And well, we ended up 
with them.

	I got seat 4, which was the middle of the row of 8 seats. I 
was positioned between two speakers, and looking directly at Warren 
Haynes and Dickie Betts. This was so close, that I couldn't react fast 
enough to catch any of the guitar picks that flew from the stage.
Dickie would just fling one, and it was over my head before I could 
move.

	The band took the stage, and both Warren and Allen saw us, 
smiled at us, and waved!!! I spent the entire show with not one 
person between me and the band! I was 20 feet away! Best seats I've 
ever had for a concert!

	Almost all of the Black Crows joined in for the last song, 
which was Southbound. The only one missing was the Bass player. So 
Southbound had four guitars, two keyboards, one bass, four drummers 
and a vocalist. Dickie Betts directed the song, telling each memeber 
when to play. The lighting folks seemed to want to have control, as 
they moved faster than Dickie wanted them to, and well, the players 
kept playing until he told them to stop.

	The Security folks had told us that during Whipping Post, the 
last song, the front three rows get to rush the stage. As the band 
leaves at the end of Southbound, people started heading for the stage, 
and I joined right in, ending up with the same view, and with my arms 
on the stage!!! Most cool!

	Afterwards, now knowing how the security works backstage, we 
headed on. The two guys with VIP passes walked close to security, I 
had my pass on my pants, mostly hidden by my shirt, and just walked on 
in. This time, we spoke with Jaimoe a lot. He's really a funny guy, 
with a very dry sense of humour. He said he had a series of comedy 
tapes he was selling.I got him to sign my ticket stubb....We also spoke 
with Allen and Warren, and have made plans to meet up when Goverment 
Mule comes around next! Again, timing wasn't right, and I didn't 
makeit on stage to see his gear!

	It was a pair of nights of great fun. After the first, I 
didn't think it could get much better, but the second sure was!!!





85.628STAR::64881::DEBESSknocking on the Golden DoorTue Jul 23 1996 17:507
	cool reading Mystery - thanks for sharing!

	(oh, and many thanx for wrapping us in Caution - we needed that ;-)

	Debess

85.629:^)WMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeTue Jul 23 1996 17:551
    i second that.......most cool
85.630XLIB::REHILLCall Me Mystery HillTue Jul 23 1996 23:204
    
    	Whoops, I forgot to include the Caution tape part of the night.....
    
    
85.631DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meWed Jul 24 1996 12:512
    
    Yes, thanks to mystery for the caution tape.
85.632with caution tapeSEND::SLOANmusic is my aeroplaneWed Jul 24 1996 13:426
    
    Yes, I enjoyed being tied to the back of Jay's truck by Mystery
     myself..
    
    Sloan
    
85.633NETRIX::danDan HarringtonWed Jul 24 1996 13:485
Caution tape?  Tied to the back of a truck???

Enquiring minds want to know!

Dan
85.634DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meWed Jul 24 1996 13:584
    
    >Yes, I enjoyed being tied to the back of Jay's truck by Mystery
    
    	Please please, this is a family notesfile.
85.635:^)WMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Jul 24 1996 14:123
    yeah sloan
    
    keep your perversions and weird lifestyle behaviors behind closed doors
85.636BSS::DSMITHRATDOGS DON'T BITEWed Jul 24 1996 16:269
    
    yeah sloan
    
    keep your perversions and weird lifestyle behaviors out in the open!
    
    Now thats what I call family values....
    
    Divide Dave
    
85.637XLIB::REHILLCall Me Mystery HillFri Jul 26 1996 13:137
    
    	Hey that's why we used Caution tape, and not the usualy duct
    tape.....
    
    	:*)
    
    
85.6382nd Annual Jerry Garcia Memorial Dance PartySUBSYS::TURCOTTEArmand TurcotteThu Aug 01 1996 19:1923
forwarded message from the moe.-net :

(there were directions attached, if anybody's up for going, let me know and
i'll enter them here)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


There is an incredible gig happening tomorrow night (8-2-96) at a small
venue with a killer band!! Anyone withing walking, driving (or flying)
distance from Clifton, NJ is required to be there!! This is gonna be a
really special show. So special that there are fans coming in from Europe
and Canada ... even dogs!!

     ************2nd Annual Jerry Garcia Memorial Dance Party**************
                                     with
                                BORDER LEGION

Friday Nite August 2nd 1996>
"Uncle Roy's Hall" Clifton, NJ
9:00pm-->2:00am
ages 21 and up only!
All Dead, All Night!
85.639TOLKIN::OSTIGUYRipples never come backThu Aug 01 1996 19:284
fans from canada, eourpe even dogs...dacnin with dogs...hey BeLanc_C, can you 
tell us your experience with...oh necver mond

:)
85.640meeting up maybe?NECSC::CRONIC::16.127.176.129::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Aug 21 1996 17:016
ok, so it's not a review of a non-dead band, but a question...

anyone else going to Great Woods tonight to see Neil Young?
my buddy Ed got me a ticket in the 12th row...  good ol' Ed... :^)

			da ve
85.641Can you say sloppy?BINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungWed Aug 21 1996 18:014
    da ve -
    	I'll be there with the Don Mitchell crew - aka Spongeboy quartet
    ;^)  We're heading down around 5:00 - Section 3 Row Q - what Section
    you in?
85.642STAR::64881::DEBESSthings we've never seen seem familiarWed Aug 21 1996 18:057
>anyone else going to Great Woods tonight to see Neil Young?

	I want to !  I want to !  (but am not)

	have FUN!

85.643mr benjaminWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Aug 21 1996 18:191
    DaveB is going but he took the day off
85.644tomorrow night?ASABET::DCLARKSBU Technology GroupWed Aug 21 1996 19:201
    how 'bout tomorrow night? Me, Ken Symonds, anyone else?
85.645TEPTAE::WESTERVELTWed Aug 21 1996 19:412
    me, me!
85.646SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Wed Aug 21 1996 19:5116
                    <<< Note 85.645 by TEPTAE::WESTERVELT >>>
I was going tomorrow night...had decent seat for a change too.  I traded
a night at the beach in the clam casino listening to the grokster Todd
Rundgren for this :)  I'm happy with my decision since I know they
are both "world class musicians".  After I saw Neil with
BT and the MG's I think I saw it all :) :)  

Rae needs a night anyhow...the part that hurts is my buddy Jeff is taking
my ticket and his wife are taking my ticket(s) for the Neil show .. Jeff
seeing todd with me tonight too.  He wouldn't babysit.

Need more coffee;  not rambling enough.
bobo



85.647NECSC::CRONIC::16.127.176.129::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Aug 21 1996 20:1911
i'm not sure where my tickets are tonight, other than
Ed tells me we're in the 15th row...  he seems to think that
we're not in the center, but off to what would be Phil's side...
but he also thinks it's section 2...  so i don't know for sure...

i forgot to put my tall silly hat in the car... so i won't be as easy
to find as i was at Further...  :^)  but i'll be watching for you
since we're apparently all down towards the front!  :^)

			da ve
85.648Green Onions in your coffee?NETRIX::danDan HarringtonWed Aug 21 1996 20:395
> Need more coffee;  not rambling enough.

Oh, I don't know...I was impressed!

Dan
85.649the da ve report on last nights neil show...NECSC::CRONIC::16.127.176.129::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Thu Aug 22 1996 14:3765
well, i didn't keep set lists for any of the acts that played last night,
but it was, all told, a very good show!

the opening act was Afgan Whigs...  i only caught their last song
so i can't really say much about their whole thing...  sounded interesting
enough tht i wold like to hear them again, but not so interesting that
i wanted them to play longer... :^)  mostly cuz i wasn't there to see
them... they represented a curiousity to me more than naything else..
not bad though... i'd check them out again...  hopefully from a quieter
seat though...  they were way heavy on volume...

Jewel....  heavy sigh...  :^)  what can i say??? she was awesome!
this woman can sing...  and sing... and sing...  she performs with
the passion and joy of one who doesn't know yet, quite how talented
she really is...  as if she's looking for something that she already has 
but hasn't realized it yet...  very upbeat, "perky" as she said... :^)
she was having a blast and playing very welll...  her band is nicely balanced
and not overly amplified...  apparently formed to highlight her formidable
talent...  she was having so much fun, and i was having so much fun watching 
her have so much fun, well, i dunno...  she just strikes me as someone
that, if i got to hang out with her for a while i would really enjoy, would
probably wanna hug the stuffin's out of her, and maybe end up with an
intense feeling of attraction for...  :^)  but for now let's just leave it as
she was great...  :^)  this one will be sticking around for a while and 
probably making a lot of noise...  color me impressed...

Neil...  well, he was Neil... :^)  i don't know if Neil and Crazy Horse
are sounding more like Pearl JAm or if Pearl Jam is NY and CH after
a bath in the fountain of youth... :^)  i've seen Neil several times and he's
always a good show...  this time was no exception...  wasn't my favorite 
Neil show by any means...  i don't think last nights' performance showed
the level of versatility that Neil has...  barely even touched on it in fact...
but it did show why he is the patron saint of grunge and worshipped like a god 
by all the seattle groups of that style...  he was one hard rockin' dude last
night and held nothing back in energy (never saw a guy break 4 strings
at once before and keep playing with the feedback!) or volume level...
i was glad i had ear plugs!  also impressive was the fact that he did one
looooooong set with no breaks...  only a few acoustic numbers and nothing
on keys... big guitar night...  kinda disappointing for me but what the hell...

overall, Great Woods was the same old control freakish place... the parking
lot people weren't as bad as they might have been but then again the scene
was NOTHING like what we've become accustomed to...  some of the folks
i was travelling with were impressed with what they percieved to be a big 
party in the lot...  i had to laugh...   :^)   inside, they followed you away from
a beer tent to make sure you weren't sharing with minors...  :^/ ok, i know
they kinda have to becuase of the laws and stuff, but i handed my beer to my
friend Barb, who is obviously over 21, and we were descended on...  since she
didn't bring her purse in, she had no license and was tolks she couldn't even
*hold* a beer...   feh...  stoooopid prohibition and id laws...

sound was not that good where we were...  went up to the lawn on a couple of 
occasions and was very impressed with the sound up there...  probabbly the
best sound i'd heard at GW was on the lawn last night...  for my money,
they were the best seats in the house...

so the da ve report is, the afgan whigs score points for instilling some
curiousity in me but that's about it...  Jewel aces every category for her
performance...  she was awesome and i would DEFINITELY see her again...
Neil and Crazy Horse prove that old fat guys can still rock the world and 
be cool...  :^)     


			da ve_older_and_fatter_than_he_ever
			_planned_on_being  :^)
85.650STAR::64881::DEBESSThingsWe'veNevrSeenSeemFamiliarThu Aug 22 1996 14:426
	when I saw Jewel open for Dylan she was a solo act...I
	felt she really needed a band.  Did she yodel? ;-)

	Debess

85.651NECSC::CRONIC::16.127.176.129::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Thu Aug 22 1996 14:4911
yes, by request... :^)  her last tune was a yodeling thing
and it kept getting faster andfaster andfasterandfaster!  :^)

pretty cool...  

oh, and i misspelled earlier...  "Afghan" Whigs...  sorry guys... :^)

ahhh, Jewel...  she was so cool...  totally dug her...  :^)  THAT is how
i want to make my living...  :^)

				da ve
85.652its better to burn out than it is to rust...SALEM::BENJAMINThu Aug 22 1996 22:4318
      I was up on the "lawn" (don't know why they call it lawn when it is
    in fact all wood chips) about 10 rows of people up and the sound was
    great....like da ve said Jewel was very good....much better than I was
    expecting since all I knew of her was that song they overplay on the
    radio...I missed the other band (Afghan Whigs)....I don't care what
    he plays, instruments or song-wise, Neil Young can still rock out
    with the best of them....that guy still flails around like he always
    did and when NY and crazy horse get into thier little jam circle,
    wonderful things were happening (in my head, anyway)...They opened
    up with "Hey hey, my my"....then played a few newer songs...then
    acoustic versions of "Needle...", "Heart of Gold", and "sugar mt."...
    I also remember hearing "Cinnamon girl", "Cortez", and "Hurricane"...
    one of the encore songs was something like"roll another number for the
    road".....I've seen some very good shows this year,so far, and this one
    gets added to the list....also had a great parking space, made it to
    the highway under 5 minutes after I got in my car.....:-)
    
    
85.653TEPTAE::WESTERVELTFri Aug 23 1996 14:312
    Neil rocks.
85.654my $.02ASABET::DCLARKSBU Technology GroupFri Aug 23 1996 14:425
    zzzzz .... Neil's letting this 'Godfather of Grunge' stuff get to
    his head. He needs to get away from Pearl Jam. Last night's show
    was fair-to-poor. A couple acoustic numbers but mostly just 
    distorted sludge (this coming from somebody who thinks Ragged
    Glory is the best album Neil ever made).
85.655rockin' in the free worldTEPTAE::WESTERVELTFri Aug 23 1996 14:5432


    Great Woods 8/22/96

	out of the blue (hey hey, my my)
	powderfinger
	big time
	? (new)
	the needle & the damage done
	long may you run
	heart of gold
	sugar mountain
	the loner
	cinammon girl
	f#$%^&'in up
	cortez
    	music arcade	
	like a hurricane

	this town
	sedan delivery
	


    I lucked out again and had the leftmost front-row seat.  
    Prototypical trogolodyte fans behind me who've been to
    1 show in the last 20 years.  Except for that I thoroughly	
    enjoyed the show.  Worth it all to hear Powderfinger
    & Sedan Delivery.  I like the new album a lot.

    Tom
85.656SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Fri Aug 23 1996 15:0210
          <<< Note 85.654 by ASABET::DCLARK "SBU Technology Group" >>>
>   distorted sludge (this coming from somebody who thinks Ragged


That's why I *LIKE* Neil....

I want the distortion.  I want the feedback. 

bob

85.657another cup of that distorted sludge, pleaseRICKS::CALCAGNIlike lightning giving birthFri Aug 23 1996 15:166
    I wonder if there were a lot of walkouts.  I remember seeing Neil at
    GW several years ago, during the "This Notes for You" era.  There were
    several people sitting near us who had obviously come for the "Sugar
    Mountain" Neil and were quite dissastisfied with the blues set he was
    delivering.  They left about halfway through.
    
85.658MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Wed Aug 28 1996 13:4217
	sparsest crowd i've ever seen at grate woods last nite.
	less than 4,000 showed up for the house of blues show: the
	barnburner tour. lack of crowd (presumably) caused the fab
	thunderbirds to no-show. 
	
	radiators opened. buddy guy smoked the second set. and joe cocker
	closed. imo, buddy guy shudda closed. cocker was ok, but a downer
	after the killer buddy set.
	
	getting out of the pahkin lot was the easiest it's ever been :-)
	
	also went to the monday nite ELP/Tull show. Ian Anderson is bald!
	what a shock ;-) he still has most of his moves, tho. and can
	still play the flute, although his singing voice (or style) has
	changed for the worse (imo)
	
	ELP was freakin' awesome.
85.659NECSC::CRONIC::16.127.176.129::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Aug 28 1996 14:066
how were the rads???  they are at the top of my
list lately...  awesome musicians...  hard working
and hard partying guys...  i would have liked to
see them but no one else onthe bill did much for me...

			da ve
85.660Cocker shlocker.....WMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Aug 28 1996 14:111
    no buddy guy for you da ve?
85.661MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Wed Aug 28 1996 14:1712
	the rads were as hot as everyone  promised they'd be.
	was NOT disappointed. them and buddy guy were worth the price.
	(this started as a 5 act show)
	but, for my money, buddy was da man!
	he can work a crowd. and he can play da bluez. and, i don't know
	the name of the young guitar player he had, but man he could
	play!
	
	cocker did a very good job, but the sparse crowd got a lOT
	thinner towards the end of his set. i don't think many would have
	left if buddy was playing.
	
85.662STAR::64881::DEBESSThingsWe'veNevrSeenSeemFamiliarWed Aug 28 1996 14:496
	weren't Radiators fans the original Fishheads?!?
	anyone remember Russ Leong?

	Debess

85.663"suck the head, squeeze the tip"NECSC::CRONIC::16.127.176.129::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Aug 28 1996 14:518
nope...  buddy is not the guy for me...  i'm just not that
big of a blues fan...  but then i've been down that road
in here before...  :^)

and yes, radiators fans ARE the original fish heads!!

			da ve
85.664SPECXN::BARNESWed Aug 28 1996 14:585
    the Rads were much better a few years ago, IMO...the last 2 (?) CD's
    didn't do too much for me, although they contained some good tunes and
    the RAds are ALWAYS better live...
    
    rfb
85.665NAC::TRAMP::GRADYSquash that bug! (tm)Wed Aug 28 1996 19:369
>"suck the head, squeeze the tip"
                                                                           


Yikes, just got a major flashback of the Crescent City Brewhouse....;-)



tim
85.666HELIX::CLARKWed Aug 28 1996 21:0512
>buddy is not the guy for me...  i'm just not that
>big of a blues fan...

  It's also possible to be a big blues fan and not get Buddy...  At least
  for this data point, yers truly.
  
  I always liked his peers, Otis Rush and (rip) Magic Sam, who likewise
  mixed 60s soul music & electric guitar influences into Chicago blues, a
  helluva lot more.  Never could understand what Clapton and Beck & all saw
  in Buddy (at least as a headliner, love his Chess session work).
  
  Every blues fan I know personally disagrees with me though.  - JayC.
85.667ASDG::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Thu Aug 29 1996 11:279
    re .666 (yikes!)
    
    I'm not a big Buddy fan (or Clapton, for that matter) either.  I like
    Otis Rush, especially "Mourning in the Morning."
    
    I think I'm the anti-da ve, I'm a blues fan and more-or-less detest
    folk music.
    
    Jamie
85.668.02TOLKIN::OSTIGUYRipples never come backThu Aug 29 1996 12:136
I'm not a huge blues fan..I like the blues, but in small doses...but anytime
I've seen Buddy Guy on tv or heard his cd's there's something about him I like
a lot...maybe it's the polka-dot shirt with matching polka-dot Strat...love
that :)

WO
85.669?WMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeThu Aug 29 1996 12:237
    speaking of the blues
    
    anyone going to see BB and Lucille with the Nevilles at Harborlights
    sept 10?
    
    
    what is the deal with this Harborlights thing anyways?
85.670SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Thu Aug 29 1996 12:5311
re:  Buddy

Buddy is excellent - have never heard a record of his but have seen him 
live a few times.

One very memorable time with a certain John Campbell opening.  John
has since gone on to the great blues gig in the sky but left us with a
couple real gems (and I've heard of a 3rd although I haven't found it).

bob

85.671when the levee breaksRICKS::CALCAGNIlike lightning giving birthThu Aug 29 1996 14:0311
    yo Bob, if you locate that 3rd John Campbell disc please post about it.
    I would *LOVE* to have some more of his stuff to listen to.  An amazing
    talent, wish I'd seen him before he passed on.
    
    I have a large appetite for blues and blues related music, but I'm
    another one of those who doesn't quite get Buddy Guy.  I don't find
    anything wrong with his stuff, just doesn't stoke my coals as much
    as some other artists.
    
    /rick
    
85.672Some John Campbell infoSMURF::MROGERSThu Aug 29 1996 14:2913
    CDnow listed the following John Campbell CDs:
    
    After Hours
    Howlin' Mercy
    Live At Maybeck Recital Halls
    Man & His Blues
    One Believer
    
    For more info, see www.cdnow.com
    
    Happy spending at a site I know all too well:-)
    
    Mike
85.673thanks for spendin' my dough there brotherSMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Thu Aug 29 1996 17:0318
                      <<< Note 85.672 by SMURF::MROGERS >>>
                          -< Some John Campbell info >-

>    CDnow listed the following John Campbell CDs:
    
>    After Hours
>    Howlin' Mercy
>    Live At Maybeck Recital Halls
>    Man & His Blues
>    One Believer
    
thanks!

I thought there were only 3 but I stopped looking about 2 years ago when
he died. 
thx
bob

85.674my wallet feels lighter alreadyRICKS::CALCAGNIlike lightning giving birthThu Aug 29 1996 18:515
    same here.  The "Live at Maybeck" looks especially interesting.
    Thanks
    
    /rick
    
85.675MM&W?NETRIX::danDan HarringtonThu Oct 03 1996 14:237
85.676MMWSUBSYS::TURCOTTEArmand TurcotteThu Oct 03 1996 16:5148
85.677DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meThu Oct 03 1996 18:077
85.678HELIX::CLARKThu Oct 03 1996 18:1813
85.679They're like the Dead if Miles is.SALEM::MARTIN_SPerpetual Smile...Thu Oct 03 1996 19:1212
85.680STAR::EVANSMon Oct 07 1996 15:515
85.681Sleepy's always worth the cover...JARETH::LARUau contraire...Mon Oct 07 1996 16:4713
85.683JGB 11/17/96BINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungMon Nov 18 1996 15:5312
85.684JGB 11/19/96BINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungWed Nov 20 1996 20:058
85.685they may be "hot" but i still won't go...CRONIC::sms53.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Nov 20 1996 20:378
85.686MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Thu Nov 21 1996 12:1143
85.687SPECXN::BARNESThu Nov 21 1996 13:3711
85.688SPECXN::BARNESThu Nov 21 1996 13:4413
85.689much better timeWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeThu Nov 21 1996 13:504
85.690MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Thu Nov 21 1996 13:5412
85.691EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungThu Nov 21 1996 13:5511
85.692I'll be thereDELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meThu Nov 21 1996 13:5711
85.693except for incessant donna screamsWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeThu Nov 21 1996 14:047
85.694MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Thu Nov 21 1996 14:0420
85.695ASDG::IDEMy mind's lost in a household fog.Thu Nov 21 1996 14:089
85.696SPECXN::BARNESThu Nov 21 1996 14:3910
85.697EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungThu Nov 21 1996 15:2918
85.698EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungThu Nov 21 1996 15:5512
85.699I'll checkDELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meThu Nov 21 1996 16:339
85.700doesn't look like the show you're looking for deaneEVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungThu Nov 21 1996 16:4735
85.701SPECXN::BARNESThu Nov 21 1996 16:4811
85.702SPECXN::BARNESThu Nov 21 1996 16:566
85.703DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meThu Nov 21 1996 17:187
85.704SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Thu Nov 21 1996 17:2123
85.705MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Thu Nov 21 1996 17:2916
85.706DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meThu Nov 21 1996 18:512
85.707MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Thu Nov 21 1996 19:022
85.708DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meThu Nov 21 1996 19:086
85.709subjectively,ASABET::DCLARKSBU Technology GroupFri Nov 22 1996 12:062
85.710mileages can vary with altitudeDELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meFri Nov 22 1996 14:334
85.711I guess I'm going now.... :-)SALEM::MARTIN_SPerpetual Smile...Fri Nov 22 1996 15:389
85.712MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Mon Nov 25 1996 17:294
85.713reviewWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Nov 25 1996 17:311
85.714MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways a hoot!Mon Nov 25 1996 17:342
85.715late start tooSEND::SLOANseek alternate routes - expect delaysMon Nov 25 1996 17:415
85.716The melvin BandSALEM::MARTIN_SPerpetual Smile...Mon Nov 25 1996 18:3810
85.717DELNI::DSMITHCan you see the real meTue Nov 26 1996 14:144
85.718choking down the silverware must've been tough...CRONIC::sms53.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Tue Nov 26 1996 16:104
85.719LASSIE::TRAMP::GRADYSquash that bug! (tm)Tue Nov 26 1996 23:322
85.720How are ya HarryDELNI::DSMITHIn a minute I'll be freeWed Nov 27 1996 12:326
85.721CRONIC::sms53.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Wed Nov 27 1996 12:433
85.722Rusted Root in ProvidenceEVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungMon Dec 09 1996 15:5531
85.723things that i used to doWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Dec 09 1996 16:062
85.724EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungMon Dec 09 1996 16:095
85.725or is that an "i am tired" yawnWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Dec 09 1996 16:101
85.726RI adventureSEND::SLOANseek alternate routes - expect delaysMon Dec 09 1996 17:1022
85.727CRONIC::sms53.hlo.dec.com::notesi believe in Chemo-Girl!!!Mon Dec 09 1996 19:168
85.728EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungThu Jan 23 1997 12:1669
85.729SPECXN::BARNESThu Jan 23 1997 12:435
85.730rusted root in manchesterEVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungMon Jan 27 1997 14:5336
	cathysloan, Guntis and I went to see Rusted Root at St. Anselm's
	in Manchester on Friday nite.  Tickets said 7:00 - but we waited
	outside for an hour in the blistering cold while the line slowly 
	moved as they methodically searched everyone as they entered.
	I tried to have as little extra clothing with me as possible because
	I didn't know what it was going to be like inside with general
	admission and all - so I didn't have boots and I didn't have a coat 
	on - just my sandals, a sweater, and rayon "dancing pants" - and by 
	the time we got in, I was wicked cold.  Then to find out that the 
	port-o-sans we had bypassed on the way in, holding off to use a flush 
	toilet inside, were actually the only toilet facilities available at 
	all - outside as the snow fell...  Security was pretty tight, pretty 
	visible - it seemed like every cop in the greater-Manchester-area was 
	there :-(

	the opening act started maybe around 8:30 and Rusted Root came on
	around 10.  THEY ARE SO EXCELLENT!!!!  It's interesting to me to
	see the different directions we Deadheads are all headed in in our
	quest for great live music - but -this- is the band for me.  Anytime
	they come around here, I'm going to see them.  Everything they play,
	moves me.  Lots of their songs have multiple sections - maybe start
	out slowly and then whoa! switch gears into an allout boogie.  Their 
	sound is very pleasing to me - a "world" sound - lots of middle-eastern
	types of instruments that they are very proficient playing.  I feel
	like I get my dose of spacey music from them.  We also noticed that
	they were jamming out more on some of the songs.  The woman singer
	has a Beautiful voice!  The lyrics aren't all that easy sometimes to
	understand because of the unusual way they are presented - but what I 
	can make out are interesting and pretty much inline with how I feel 
	about some things - done in a way I would never think of to express 
	the thoughts.  They have fun!  We had fun!  Highlight for me Friday 
	was an excellent extended Cruel Sun.

	Debess

85.731QUOIN::BELKINbut from that cup no moreMon Jan 27 1997 15:585
There's some song I've heard on the radio with a woman singing who plays
violin.  Vocals don't sound like they are all in English - maybe some other
language, or a kinda scat singing.  Izzat RR ? 

Josh
85.732EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungMon Jan 27 1997 16:0815
	well, she does play the violin at least on one song that I noticed,
	but that is not the predominant instrument you would hear if you
	heard a Rusted Root song.  I don't listen to the radio hardly at all,
	so I don't know what is being played of their music.

	the first time I heard them, I thought it was David Byrne (Talking
	Heads) - the lead singer has a very similar voice, and their tunes are 
	very reminiscent of the Brazilian stuff he was doing a while ago.  
	Whenever anyone came into my house and I had their cd on and they
	were hearing the band for the first time - everytime! I would be asked
	"Is this David Byrne?" 

	Debess

85.733SPECXN::BARNESMon Jan 27 1997 16:443
    Tiffany turned us on to Rusted Root over Xmas vacation...good stuff.
    
    rfb
85.734SALEM::BENJAMINMon Jan 27 1997 17:523
      i think josh is talking about a song called"sleepy maggie" i don't
    remember the guy's name, but it is the violin player's album.  the girl
    is just a guest singer...
85.735OUTPOS::EKLOFWaltzing with BearsMon Jan 27 1997 18:211
	"Sleepy Maggie" is by Ashley McIsaic (sp?).
85.736sounds it to meWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeWed Jan 29 1997 13:146
    yes
    ashley McIsaac
    
    
    
    celtic mebbe?
85.737Fiona AppleICS::SMITHDEWed Jan 29 1997 18:417
    
    Mmmmmmm.
    
    Fiona Apple.  
    
    Not only is she smoking hot, but her tunz crank.
    
85.738ySEND::SLOANseek alternate routes - expect delaysWed Jan 29 1997 18:514
    
    Ya Finona is cool. I like the Shadow Boxer song.
    
    Cath
85.739worthwhileSEND::SLOANsplit open and meltMon Feb 24 1997 17:168
    
    Saw Peter Parcek at Penuchi's last night! He's great. Does some
    really amazing Hendrix tunes as well as SRV.  
    
    Glad to see Bruce Laru and Larry(?) there too, grovin on some
    fine guitar playing. 
    
    Cath
85.740BSS::DSMITHRATDOGS DON'T BITEFri Mar 07 1997 12:3711
    
    Heard a rela funny song on the radio on the way to work this morning.
    Written and sung by Dave Lyons(lions).
    
     Name of the song is Cows withs Guns, One of the best humor songs I
    have heard in a long time.
    
    The radio staion is on the www and the cd can be ordered from them, I
    wonder what else in on the cd. The radio station call letters are kkfm.
    
    Divide
85.741David Murray AND GUESTS!!BINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungFri Mar 07 1997 19:0916
    David Murray Octet
    Thursday March 6, 1997
    The Fillmore, San Francisco CA
    
    
    I:Shakill's Warrior,High Priest,The Desegregation Of Our Children*,The
    Fight Song*,Shakedown Street*@ ->,Samson and Delilah*@  (Weir on
    vocals)
    II:Dark Star*@ ->One More Saturday Night*@,Hope Scope,China
    Doll*,Shakedown Street*
    
    * with Bob Weir
    @ with Phil Lesh
    **(soundcheck included Shakedown Street, Samson and Delilah, Dark
    Star, One More Saturday Night, China Doll, Franklin's Tower)**
    
85.742EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungFri Mar 07 1997 19:123
	(yer right /bruce, I gotta move west!)

85.743wonder who sung Shakedown??????ICS::SMITHDESo many roadsThu Mar 13 1997 19:513
    
    	What up w/dat?
    
85.744nooneEVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSseeking all thats stil unsungThu Mar 13 1997 19:523
	I think Samson&Delilah was the only song done with vocals.

85.745ALFA2::DWESTi believe in chemo girl!Mon Apr 07 1997 14:5929
    well, either New HAven is a lot closer than i remembered, or a 
    temporal rift developed beteen there and worcester last friday
    night, as my car seemed to find it's way down inrecord time!
    
    we got into Toadz just in time to get the last board patch available...
    plugged in 3 decks and settled in for a great time....  :^)
    
    the rads were awesome...  i had my dancin' berks on ALL NIGHT...
    they had an opening act, who was ok... a dude with aguitar adn
    harmonica...  not bad, buit not what we were thre for either...
    they boys came on at 11 and played for over two hours...  a five minute
    break, then a 4 tune encore...  lots of songs off the new dark ages 
    record...  umbilical was incredible... zeke's head was bobbin' all
    night...  Reggie is awaiting delivery of a new stand up bass...  Dave
    and Camille were in great moods... lots of smilin' and laughin'...
    it's too cool when the band seems to be having as much fun as the
    crowd!  :^)
    
    a note about Toads...  when you go to a show there, they give you tix 
    to futre shows... i have free passes to John Mayall and  Merle
    Saunders...  they also had a special deal for that night on soul asylum
    tix - two for 1...  it's closer than you think, and it's an amazing
    place to see bands...  big place, large dance floor, no hassles for
    anyone lighting up, no lines at the 3 bars...  the only bad thing is
    the pool tables and sticks... (bad shape)...  travel time of about
    1.5 hours from wormtown (maybe a little more if you aren't riding with
    me... :^)...
    
    					da ve
85.746JARETH::LARUau contraire...Mon Apr 07 1997 15:257
    Yo, da ve!
    
    When is Merle playing Toad's?
    
    got room in da bus?
    
    /b
85.747ALFA2::DWESTi believe in chemo girl!Mon Apr 07 1997 15:3518
    
    
    	i'm not sure as i don't have the pass on my person at the moment,
    but i think it's a thursday night, April 17th???
    
    	i know Ger plans on going...  for me, it's very close to some 
    work and personal things that must be attended to before leaving for
    the New Orleans jazz fest....
    
    	there's always room on the bus!  :^)  and if it's not my bus, 
    i'll turn over my free pass...  
    
    	silly da ve, forgot to sign up for the Toads mailer...  don't know
    if they have a web site...  some incredible folks have played there
    over the years and they still bring in top notch bands...  definitely 
    a place worth keeping track of...
    
    						da ve
85.748lots'o'funKAOFS::C_ROSSWed Apr 23 1997 14:2513
    ..saw moe. at the Reverb last night in Toronto.. they played 2 great
    sets to a packed house.. the whole place boogied which was nice to see
    
    ..brought a few friends who hadn't seen moe. yet, and they all loved em
    ..everyone agreed that moe. is deserving of being on the furthur tour..
    
    ..a few highlights for me were (in no order) she sends me, 32 things,
    moth,defrost kelley,akimbo,mexico, and the song that completely killed
    me was meat..
    
    ..totally kicking my rear today for not taping last night.. certainly
    looking forward to catching some moe. shows this summer..   
                                                                Ross
85.749MMF 4-25-97 San Francisco, CABINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungMon Apr 28 1997 14:4315
    Vince Welnick & The Missing Man Formation
    (Vince Welnick, Steve Kimock, Bobby Vega, Prairie Prince,
    Bobby Strickland and Steve Black)
    The Fillmore, San Francisco CA
    Friday April 25, 1997
     
    I:Come Back to Me,True Blue,Freddy's Dead,It's A Man's World,Scarlet
    Begonias,We All Sing Together->Citadel->We All Sing Together
    
    II:Golden Days,Manic Depression,Cream Puff War,Way to Go Home,Standing
    On The Moon,Missing Man Theme
    
    E:You Can't Always Get What You Want
    
    *(The Jambay Trio opened)*
85.750ALFA1::DWESTi believe in chemo girl!Mon Apr 28 1997 14:464
    what i wanna know is, why aren't they on the further
    tour???hmmmmm??????
    
    				da ve
85.751SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Mon Apr 28 1997 15:487
da ve,

I think they are supposed to have a festival thing too - MMF, Jefferson
StarPlane and "The Band".  

?

85.752They need a name though?!?BINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungMon Apr 28 1997 16:065
    >>I think they are supposed to have a festival thing too - MMF,
    >>Jefferson StarPlane and "The Band".
    
    yup, MMF, some form of Starship, The Band and JGB are scheduled to hit
    the road this summer on their own little festival tour. 
85.753wondering out loud...ALFA1::DWESTi believe in chemo girl!Mon Apr 28 1997 17:2318
    hmmmm...  Bobby, former Dead band member... starts new band and gets
    on Further...
    
    Mickey...  former Dead band member...  starts new band and gets on 
    Further...
    
    Bruce Hornsby...  short time fill-in on keys, sort of former Dead band
    member...  his latest project gets on Further...
    
    Vince...  former Dead band member... starts new band...does *not* get
    on Further and does *not* tour with any other former Dead band mates...
    
    what's up with that?????  a snub?  is Weir afraid of being upstaged??
    are they afraid another keyboard player that used to be with the band
    would create some sort of conflict??  why do all the former band
    members EXCEPT Vinnie get a slot on Further??
    
    						da ve
85.754EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Mon Apr 28 1997 17:378
    
>    what's up with that?????  

	i dunno...

	da ve, what are you doin' here today - I thought you were
	headed to New Orleans?

85.755USOPS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyMon Apr 28 1997 17:557
    
    good point da ve!
    
    In that context, he seems to be getting the shaft,  But who knows maybe
    he does want to play with that bunch of remaining bozo's anyway  ;^)
    
    
85.756ALFA1::DWESTi believe in chemo girl!Mon Apr 28 1997 18:046
    Debess...  plane leaves wednesday...  :^)
    
    Mark...  i'm inclined to agree...  imho Ratdog is a pretty lame
    headliner for a concert series like this...
    
    					da ve
85.757or cheeseWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeMon Apr 28 1997 18:221
    ratdog=poop
85.758SSDEVO::R_BARNESMon Apr 28 1997 18:289
    The new RAtdog, i've heard, is pretty hot...a sax player and another
    keyboard added...Friend of mine just saw them in Utah somewhere...
    
    rumors of Vince not taking Jerry's death very well and of his descent
    into perscription pills afterwards persist, only Zero's offer to Vince
    to play with them in a studio situation helped bring Vince out of his
    funk...or so I've heard, anyway 
    
                                                                      rfb
85.759strange days indeedRICKS::CALCAGNIice cold water runnin through my veinsTue Apr 29 1997 14:124
    Somewhere, maybe from a local ad, I got the idea that the Black Crowes
    were actually going to headline Further.  Or maybe the ad just reads
    that way cause it'll sell more tickets...
    
85.760SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 14:245
    a friend of mine is saying the same thang...which I debated with him,
    mainly because he's a bonehead and thinks he's right all the
    time...Tom...
    
    rfb
85.761EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Tue Apr 29 1997 14:267
	if that's true...it must be that the promoters are feeling the
	same way that even some Deadheads are feeling - Ratdog is a
	"lame headliner"...

	and so it goes...

85.762SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 14:351
    and so the scene falls
85.763EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Tue Apr 29 1997 15:0518
	I dunno rfb...

	the scene has already fallen.  and split.  and changed.  and
	continues in other ways.  

	if this Furthur thing cannot sustain itself - I don't doubt that
	these musicians will still keep playing, and those of us who are
	into it will keep going to see them.  In smaller places.

	if the scene gets way smaller, is that necessarily a bad thing?

	I personally think the "scene" will continue - just in lots of
	different circumstances, not all musical, not on the same scale
	at the same time - but maybe in a more holistic way from now on?

	Debess 
	
85.764SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 15:1711
    ya'll play it any way ya want...me/we out here are striving to maintain
    a scene where we all "keep together". Granted, there are mal-contents
    out here too....I tell them to keep the f*ck away then...if yer not part of
    the solution..YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! Go see U2, at 60$ a pop..and blow
    off Furthur at 32$..go see the next Bud sponsered mega-concert where
    the exploding pig outshines the pre-recorded music....me and mine will
    stick to the scene
    
    do i sound a little peeved at the lack of support for
    groups/individuals that supported our way of being for so long??? 
    CHU BETCHA!
85.765ALFA1::DWESTi believe in chemo girl!Tue Apr 29 1997 15:2317
    and what do you mean by "the scene"???  "the scene" has been cited by
    many as a big part of the problem...  it's reduced size could be very
    cool...
    
    the whole thing is supposed to be primarily a music scene...  that end
    of it will never be what it was...  musically it grew and changed over
    the years, always becoming something new that it wasn't the day
    before...  Mickey's music thing at least appears to still be vibrant...
    Bobby's music thing appears to be a step backwards... to me it looks 
    a bit like he's more content to stay within what he knows (:^() and
    coast on his "rock star" status....  
    
    not to start Bobby bashing or anything, but is Ratdog really exciting
    or is it just "good" and something we can hang onto to remind us of
    what has gone before??
    
    					da ve
85.766and i don't mean oscar meyer weenies eithahWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeTue Apr 29 1997 15:251
    cheesedog
85.767SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 15:3220
    define the scene as what ever you want. me and mine look at it as a
    family type thing...just like any family, 
    some family members are better than others about
    sharing  the vibes we all need, some family members are problem
    children.
    
    and of course things always evolve and change...we've been down that
    discussion road before. The scene was cited as a "problem" in 1966 in
    San Francisco, as a problem nationwide by people like Nixon and Hoover,
    in the 70's and as a problem by the band in the 90's....like ya said, 
    things change
    
               and, yes...for me and mine Ratdog IS GOOD! 
    
    I just find it VERY disheartning that all the vibes, commaradory (sp)
    and love that brought me BACK to a peaceful state after being totally
    dissalusioned by the yuppie 80's is falling apart because of apathy.
    
    nuff said
    rfb
85.768EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Tue Apr 29 1997 15:3923
	the Grateful Dead was always greater than the sum of its parts...
	so how can the "parts" -possibly- compare?  Not everyone who
	loved the Dead are going to love what the individuals are doing.
	
	you (generic) cannot make other people do/like what they don't want 
	to.  so why bother?

	last year I went to Furthur exactly for the reason that you stated
	rfb - I wanted to support the musicians who had given me so much
	over the years and see what directions they wanted to go in.
	I had a great time!  I heard music I needed to hear, I saw the
	people that I love hanging with.

	but I hear so much grumbling about the music, that I don't care
	if those that don't like it don't come.  they're raining on my
	parade now.  I think everyone is finding part of the scene where
	it suits them.  It's not going to be in the same place for everyone.
	Just as long as it does continue for everyone somehow...just as
	long as we take what we learned from this long strange trip with
	us when we go!

	Debess
85.769SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 15:455
    re; you can not make other peopel do/like what they don't...
    so much grumbling about the music I don't care if they come or not...
    
    
    I think we are saying the same thing, but I'm more crass 
85.770USOPS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyTue Apr 29 1997 15:509
    
    I continue to support "the scene" whenever I can.  I don't always like
    everything I hear, but, I almost always have a grate time anyway. I go
    there for the sense of community and to be with like people.   As far 
    as treating anyone like a sacred cow or something,  I don't think so.
    
    I'll continue to go and go as long as it's fun.
    
    	Mark   
85.771EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Tue Apr 29 1997 16:0211
	fwiw 

	Dylan has been touring pretty much nonstop for years now - 
	he's playing in theaters and gyms - 2000-4000 people - if all
	those people were Deadheads, that would be scene enough for me! ;-) 

	if Bobby or Mickey or Vince comes out and plays a small
	venue like that - and it's filled with people who come for
	the music and eachother - cool!  

85.772ratdog commentsICS::SMITHDESo many roadsTue Apr 29 1997 18:043
    
    I think Ratdog needs a lead.  Don't care if it's a lead pianist, lead
    guitarist, lead saxaphonist, lead washtub bass....they need some juice.
85.773SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 18:121
    got one...new sax player and additional keyboard player.
85.774ICS::SMITHDESo many roadsTue Apr 29 1997 18:152
    
    Could be some potential there.  Wouldn't mind Jorma on lead suitar.
85.775JARETH::LARUau contraire...Tue Apr 29 1997 18:175
    wouldn't hurt to get a vocalist, either...
    
    :-)
    
    
85.776EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Tue Apr 29 1997 18:185
	au contraire, /bruce, au contraire

	:-) :-) :-)

85.777SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 18:212
    sh8t..let's just scrap the whole thang and i'll see ya'll at the next
    Spice Girls concert...Probz, wanna start a Spice Girls conferance???
85.778Grrrls rock!JARETH::LARUau contraire...Tue Apr 29 1997 18:255
    I heard the Maoris were upset with the Spice Girls because
    the group performed a sacred dance  that (within the tradition) 
    is to be performed only by men...
    
    /b
85.779ICS::SMITHDESo many roadsTue Apr 29 1997 18:292
    
    You volunteering Bruce???  ;-)
85.780SSDEVO::R_BARNESTue Apr 29 1997 18:385
    re /b
    
    ya, a couple of white New Zealanders showed them a couple of steps, the
    Girls took off with it and the next thang ya know another culture is
    offended....can't we all just get a bong? 
85.781I must confess...JARETH::LARUau contraire...Tue Apr 29 1997 19:247
85.782i'll still go thoWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeTue Apr 29 1997 19:311
    CHOWDAH!
85.783SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Wed Apr 30 1997 19:267
I read that Jorma and Falzarano have been signed to Further for this 
year.  Apparently to play an acoustic set and also Jorma will jam with
Ratdog.  That'll help.  That may even "do it" for Ratdog.
Why no Jack Cassady?  I dunno - maybe he's on tour with Airplane/MMF/Band.


85.784EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Wed Apr 30 1997 19:393
	very good news indeed...where'd ya hear that?

85.785USOPS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyWed Apr 30 1997 19:413
    
    Hot damn!  Good news indeed!
    
85.786Time will tellBINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungWed Apr 30 1997 19:4811
    >>I read that Jorma and Falzarano have been signed to Further
    
    yeah I read that too on r.m.gd - see if it shows up on the Dead webpage
    in the next few days.
    
    >>Why no Jack Cassady?  I dunno - maybe he's on tour with
    >>Airplane/MMF/Band.
    
    I think that's exactly why - altho I do remember hearing that Starship
    had a backup for Jack for when dates collided between them and Hot
    Tuna. 
85.787SMURF::HAPGOODJava Java HEY!Wed Apr 30 1997 21:245
Yea, that's where I read it.  r.m.gd.  Seemed accurate enough - from
Tuna's record label (relix records).
  
bob

85.788jorma is the man...well so is jackWMOIS::LEBLANCCAll good things in all good timeThu May 01 1997 11:471
    excellent smithers
85.789SMURF::connor.zk3.dec.com::hotpup::strobeljeff strobelThu May 01 1997 18:251
C. Montgomery Leblanc!?
85.790EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Thu May 01 1997 18:253
	it's on the FurthuR page today - they're officially on the bus!

85.791ICS::SMITHDESo many roadsThu May 01 1997 18:406
    
    cool!
    
    or should I say
    
    HFT!!!!!
85.792Fourth Day of JulyBINKLY::CEPARSKIMay Your Song Always Be SungThu May 01 1997 20:038
    of "further" interest to those of us in New England, I just noticed
    this new date on the roster:
    
    July 4  Riverside Park  Springfield, MA
    
    All tix are GA $32.50
    
    Mail Order May 5 and TicketBastard May 8.
85.793TEPTAE::WESTERVELTThu May 01 1997 20:237
    What's the venue like?  

    And can you ride the roller coaster between sets??


    
85.794USOPS::MNELSONInspiration, move me BrightlyThu May 01 1997 20:328
    
    I was pleased to hear that U2 is playing Foxboro on July  1 , the same
    day as Further at Gratewoods.  The competetion should keep fans at
    further reduced to ore who are really there for the show/family scene.  
    
    I like it.
    
    
85.795AWECIM::HANNANThu May 01 1997 20:4611
re:      <<< Note 85.794 by USOPS::MNELSON "Inspiration, move me Brightly" >>>

>    I was pleased to hear that U2 is playing Foxboro on July  1 , the same
>    day as Further at Gratewoods.  The competetion should keep fans at

	On the negative side, traffic should be a really crazy!

	/Ken

    

85.796been awhileSUBPAC::BEAULIEULike A steam LocomotiveThu May 01 1997 21:0211
    
    Tom,
    
    the last time I saw a concert there it was at the Riverside
    Speedway. the band was in the tracks and everybody wuz in the
    bleachers. I'm hoping it'll be more open i.e. the band on one
    end of the raceway and everybody free to roam everywhere else.
    you have to walk thru part of the park to get to the raceway
    at least that's how it wuz...
    
    Toby
85.797a-109.tunnel.crl.dec.com::JC&amp;DebControl for smilers can't be boughtFri May 02 1997 01:5840
re: debess

.        the Grateful Dead was always greater than the sum of its parts...
.        so how can the "parts" -possibly- compare?  Not everyone who
.        loved the Dead are going to love what the individuals are doing.
 
synergy !
       
.        you (generic) cannot make other people do/like what they don't want 
.        to.  so why bother?

so true, with everything really...

>        but I hear so much grumbling about the music, that I don't care
>        if those that don't like it don't come.  they're raining on my

but, now you know what the big appeal to the dead was: The Music!
a lotta 'heads used to talk about the music, that is what made people
feel good at a dead show...  so, there was _something_ different about
the dead... something magical in a way... no other band had that kind
of HUGE HUGE following;  the music did something to a lot of people
across the world.  it really comes down to what attracted *you* to the
scene- the people? the music? the drugs :-) ? the mass lawlessness?  
or, maybe a combination of some or all of these things?  so, if the new
thang ain't the right mix, people will seek other alternatives.  some
psychologist will make a lot of money when he/she writes a book on the
scene after the death of jerry! probably  very interesting thing to
study if that's your bag.  so, the way i see is the scene is in flux;
people are checking this out, that out, or just realizing that the show
is finally over and how lucky they were to be a part of the scene.
whatever you're cup of tea is.  the negativism is the reaction from people
because Furthur wasn't the dead and therefore does not satisfy the
mix.. others like debess find that further
offers enough of the mix to be happy... which is great!  for me, i dig
the phish scene--it is a fun place to hang right now... i'll check out
further, i had a great time last year, so i cannot imagine NOT having 
fun this coming summer, even though i hate the heat and bugs! :-)

jc

85.798a-109.tunnel.crl.dec.com::JC&amp;DebControl for smilers can't be boughtFri May 02 1997 02:047
WSJ just had an article on rock bands and how they
are being asked to play at corporate shindigs.  they
talk about dylan doing a gig for some big company...
got paid something like $300,000 for one night; they
make all these deals like you have to sing these songs,
you have to pose with these people for pictures, etc.
ah, capitalism !
85.799EVMS::OCTOBR::DEBESSblack dirt live again!Mon May 05 1997 16:5121
>[the WSJ article]
>talk about dylan doing a gig for some big company...
>got paid something like $300,000 for one night; 

	not bad!
	
>they make all these deals like you have to sing these songs,

	I just went and checked the setlist for this show
	(it happened a year ago - for a Japanese brokerage
	firm) - the setlist was completely comparable to
	other shows he was doing then - and, he actually 
	played fewer songs than normal.

	
	I don't have any trouble with him making money
	from his art - it would bother me if he was
	compromising his act in deference to the dollar
	(or yen!) - but it doesn't look like he did that....