Conference marvin::uk_music

    Let's go.
    
    Yesterday I bought the new Stone Roses cassette, `Elephant Stone',
    listened to it twice on the way home and it is now confined to the
    cabinet, that is until I forget how unexciting it wasn't.  I thought
    `Fools Gold' was great, great rhythm, great bassline and spaced out
    vocals.  Maybe Bruce was right.
    
    I also picked up a couple of 12" singles from NSS in Boringstoke for
    25p each.  I'm off there today see what else I can pick up before Mike
    Fiddler gets there!
    
    I'm also gunna buy Nitzer Ebb's `Lightening Man' 12".  If I can find
    somewhere that hasn't sold out. (must be 3 copies per shop).
    
    Also yesterday, after reading about him in RM, I wanted to hear the
    Guru Gosh single.  Most unimpressive.  It kept breaking down making
    dodgy for dancing to.  It's is being hyped as the most in demand club
    record of the moment.  Yawn.
    
    Anybody know any music related jokes?
    
    Got this from Smash Hits;
    
    Knock knock!
    Who's there?
    Kylie!
    Kylie who?
    
    That's showbusiness!
    
    Catch you later special lovers!
    
    
    matty

    Picked up a Cabaret Voltaire 12" today - Hypno.  Is it any good Ed?
    
    Also - One of my friends had a Bismillah in this weeks NME, the Happy
    Mondays one if you're interested.  
    
    Checking out the Pale Saints and Blue Aeroplanes lps at the moment,
    more on that later.  And worth it if you can find it cheap in the HMV
    sale is the De La Soul lp - 3 feet high and rising, the more melodic
    end of rap/hiphop/type of stuff.
                                                            
    Mikef

    I didn't realise that Numan lp had early stuff  on it!!   I certainly
    wouldn't have pointed it out if I had!!!
    
    Foiled again!
    
    Mikef

    Still waiting for new lps from James and They Might Be Giants. I
    bought slightly older things by both these bands last week.
    
    Bob

    I'm guilty of not hearing anything by these groups.  Would like to
    though.
    
    They've played the new record my Mark Knopfler a couple of times on
    Radio 210.  The group is called the Notting Hillibilies.  The cover
    even looks like the Travelling Willbury's records.  I don't like the
    music, but then I don't like Dire Straits, especially *his* voice.
    
    
    matty

The Cab.  Volt.  is  certainly  a departure from their past. The CD is three
acid  versions of the same song. Not bad and quite interesting. However Cab.
Volt.  don't do anything for acid which hasn't already been done. That's the
sad  part of the whole affair. I will note however that the Cab. Volt./Allen
(Alien,  sorry,  he's  *legally*  changed  his name) Jorgenson (of Ministry)
collaboration  ACID  HORSE  (yes,  it  is  a  pun on acid house) is out. "No
Name,  No  Slogan"  _is_ the melding of Cab. Volt. and acid house that we've
been waiting for. This is more cutting edge. (I don't have it yet though :-(

Ed

    `Sailing' has been released as a charity record.  Artists include Curt
    Smith, Fish, Bonnie Tyler some others I can't remember and some never
    heard of types.  Not a brilliant version and the video is one of those
    were everyone get shown singing (with a tear in their eye) in the
    studio.
    
    There's a Kevein McDermott Orchestra 12" in NSS (B'stoke) for 25p.
    
    Shakey has a new single out (same as the rest) but the cover is
    designed by Viz comic and features different characters.
    
    Also in Viz there was an ad for the Beats International single in Billy
    the Fish.  They used the record to bring him back to life.  Apparently
    it used to be favourite!
    
    
    matty

    Errr...don't know if I should put this here, but I'll give it a whirl. 
    
    Theres  a record, a single, I am hunting for, called 'Ghosts of
    American Astronauts' by The Mekons.  I have been everywhere for it!!! 
    Does anyone here have a copy they could sell, or maybe even know a shop
    with a copy???  Its for my SOs birthday...I was gonna give her a copy
    last year, but its just not available anywhere!
    
    Mikef

    
    Was in London at the weekend and went mad in HMV and bought the
    following :-
    
    		Stone Roses	-	Fools Gold 12"
    		Happy Mondays	-	WFL	   12"
    		De La Soul	-	3 Feet High & Rising
    		Pale Saints	-	?
    		Sundays		-	Reading etc.
    		Blue Aeroplanes	-	Swagger
    		The Only Ones	-	Peel Sessions Album
    		Michael Jackson -	Thriller
    
    Have played DeLaSoul (crappy, crackly quality and 400 miles from
    the shop) and the Blue Aeroplanes (superb) so far.
    
    Michael Jackson was for my six year old son (honest) and on receipt
    he commented on how different he looks on the covercompared with
    BAD. Pretty damn perceptive I say.
    
    			Ian.

Re: -2

Buy her the NME/CND Video and you get the track you want, along with 40 others.
Isn't that track on "Rock and Roll", the latest album by the Mekons - a good
track it is too!

Stuartp

    Yeah...I have the video, but I desperatly want the record...
    
    Mikef.

    Its on "So Good It Hurts".
    
    Tony

    re .11. Ian, the reason your copy of 3 Feet High & Ridsing sounds
    crappy and crackly is because they sampled a lot of crappy, crackly
    records on it!
    
    Bob

    Yup - my copy sounds B**** awfull to.
    
    Mikef.
    
    

    Yeah, digitally reproduced crackles, I like it. Still a good record,
    though - it sounds like they had a lot of fun making it (fnarr ak)
    
    Bob

    Picked up a Lenny Kravitz 12" yesterday - Let Love Rule.  Didn't know
    too much about him, but on the strength of this record I'm gonna get
    the album!  Its excellent stuff, strong vocals, and I've always been a
    sucker for a good hammond organ (Kyakk Kyakk Fnarr Fnarr).  Kinda like
    a more interesting version of Terence Trent Darby, or maybe not - but
    certainly that area of things.  A good bluesy sound. 
     I heard a bit of a session track on the Radio 1 Saturday afternoon
    show, and that sounded like a strong Blues number ( don't suppose
    anyone knows if it will be repeatred?).  Worth checking out, esp. if
    you can find the single cheap.
    
    Mikef

    Put your hand up if you saw the Comic Strip last night!
    
    The Pretenders did the music, and Kate Bush did it last week.  The Kate
    Bush song was`Ken - leader of the GLC'.  Dead funny.  It's the b-side
    of her latest single.
    
    Has anyone heard Queen B's `Red Top Hot Shot Beep Beep Beep?".  Sort of
    like the B-52's.  Pretty good.
    
    Have you seen the cover of the new Electribe 101 remix 12".  Same
    colours, design and font as `Round and Round' by New Order.  Rip off
    merchants ahoy!  Don't much like the song either.  I have `Tell Me...'
    and have played it about twice.  I Bought it 'cause of all the hype and
    the great reviews they were getting.  The fault is mine.
    
    
    matty (space explorer)

    I listened to all the stuff I Bought yesterday, starting with Happy
    Mondays.  I fell asleep on the 2nd track.  I'm starting to go off
    these.  I tried to dance to some of these, (Got the disco light out!)
    but they're just too slow for me.  I still listen to them in hope of
    getting to like them.  I just couldn't tell the difference between
    tracks.
    
    I was knocked back by The Band Of Holy Joy.  I expected thrashing
    guitar, pounding drums and an Ian Curtis soundalike, with a bitter
    lemon twist.  All brass, accordians and such!  I liked the stuff
    though, especially the b-sides.  It was almost folky so I played all 3
    tracks to my Dad this morning (he's into folk), but he didn't think
    much.
    
    I liked the Nitzer Ebb record and I already knew I like the Distant
    Cousins record and the Roger Christian one.
    
    The Gary Numan LP is live.  I haven't heard it all yet, but half the
    tracks are dud to start with.  The good/decent tracks sound good
    musically, but his voice sounds pretty awful.  It shouldn't after all
    the production that live LPs get.
    
    On the radio is Max Q `Sometimes'.  I wanna buy it.  Give it a listen,
    INXS meets House.  The last record was the Michael Bolton ballad.  I
    hate it.  I can't stick 99% of these American rock ballads.
    
    Well I'm off to town at dinner to buy yest more 25p records.  I'm gunna
    get 10,000 maniancs 12", Iggy Pop 12" and Adventures 12".  I also gunna
    buy FYC `Raw & the Cooked' limited edition LP.  It comes in a round
    metal case.  I've been meaning to get the LP so I might as well get
    this while I can.  Hopefully the value will rise like the other FYC
    tins.  There were 8 in there yesterday dinnertime, so be quick.
    
    
    matty (mutli millionare supreme)

    Yeah...I have similar feelings about Blue Aeroplanes.  I got the lp
    Swagger, and I'm trying very hard to like it, but I just can't seem to
    make it.
    
    Anyone know much about Lush?  I might get thier lp at the weekend (This
    weeks NME article has nothing to do with this!).
    
    Mikef.

I don't mean to be pedantic, but all these shopping lists are rather boring,
especially as most of it is standard indie fodder.

	Lee.

Actually, I'm finding this rather interesting, even though I have not replied 
to this particular note. It brings back memories of when I was able to spend 
spend spend on records ...about 4 months ago, before I bought a house.

Surely the fact that there re quite a few different contributors is proof that 
it's popular.

Sorry to say this but it seems that the description in .0 of this topic is
really the description of the conference, like a music conference within a music
conference ... defeats the porpoise!


Maybe we should abondon this or we will have everyone starting a topic for what
they buy etc. I don't mind it being Indie fodder though! Better than the run of
the mill crap that is ploughed through the charts.

Stuartp

>>> I don't mean to be pedantic, but all these shopping lists are rather boring,
>>> especially as most of it is standard indie fodder.

	On the other hand, for those of us who aren't up on the indie scene
it's nice to get a very quick intro on some bands.  Since there's generally a
list of bands being bought/reviewed it makes it easier to decide whether I
trust/agree with the review.

-Brian

    The idea was that we could all follow what happens to us and has
    something to do with music.  It's wasn't meant to be specificaly about
    some artist.  It gives an overview.  Why start a topic on De-lite if
    you only have 2 lines to say and no questions to ask?
    
    As for Indie fodder, my collection is only about 10% Indie.  I like all
    sorts, and so do most.
    
    The amount of replies show that the topic is popular, can't we leave it
    at that.
    
    
    matty

    Its nice to just have a loose gossip, rather than starting a new topic
    for everything.  There isn't any rule about it being indie stuff...gas
    on about anything!  I think Mattyb might take offence at being called a
    standard indie fodder fan! (and you'd better not upset him, he's 6'10",
    wears leathers, goes to the gym at lunchtime, and looks mean).
    
    Mikef

    I just read .28 and realised I should have said that because we all
    read it we get an overview to music that we would normally ignore
    notes on.  The indie type read about the mainstream stuff, and visa
    versa.
    
    
    matty

I just read .30 and would like a date with Matty, I just love butch men!

The Vas Kid

OK, so this topic goes on and on and on and on ....

I'm gonna answer the Lush question posed my Mikef, I've got "Scar" the mini-cd
offering from them, IMO it sounds a lot like My Bloody Valentine (probably
others would disagree). The photo's in the NME this week were cool, seems that
they are getting a lot of bad vibes from other bands cos they've made it 
big(gish) without doing the standard pub/club 10000000 date tour schedule. 

I'm gonna listen to "Scar" again this weekend to try and get to grips with it,
but it's a lot of noise so far!

I'm out of the orifice for the next week and 2 days, will you all miss me?
(better not answer that!) ... Mikef - not answered my mail you naughty boy!
Anyone else wanna meet up in Reading, give you a good chance to punch my face in
:-)

stuartP

Are you a friend of Capt. Birds Eye ?  :-)

The Vas Kid

    Hey!  come on guys.  This isn't a `Boy George outside of work
    activities' topic!
    
    
    matty (My brother's a Grizzly)

    Ok some more news;
    
    "Vogue" is to be Madonna's new single, co-produced by Shep Pettibone. 
    (Bet you're all sitting on your perches waiting for that to come out)
    
    Stone Roses `Elephant Stone' is a new entry at No8.
    
    Brits Awards (a mix of various UK dance records) is new at No7!
    
    Beats International made it to No1.  I said they would!  Na na na na!!!
    
    time to go home
    
    
    matty

    Can anyone tell me anything about the Telescopes ?
    
    Juju
    xxxx
    
    A standard Indie fodder fan.....
    

    I just heard the new Jimmy Sommerville single on Radio 1.  It's called
    either `Read My Lips' or `Enough Is Enough'.  It's a plain dance sort
    of thing.  No doubt it'll be a big hit, but it won't change the
    barriers of music.
    
    
    matty

    We're all waiting for you to do that.

    I'm happy, I'm happy, happy happy happy, yeah!
    
    New Madonna single on 16th March and LP on 11th May.
    
    
    matty (keeping my ear to the ground)

    Odds and Shods Note shurely...???

    Mattyb - on the one hand you're accepting good yankee dollars and with
    the other you're giving it back to the blighters...oh well...as long as
    she continues to be a millionairess vegetarian...just like Paulie Macca.

    - Tim

    And quite right you are!

    Here are some good US releases if you are interested (some going back
    years and given the ole `classic' status etc):

    Blank Generation - Richard Hell & The Voidoids (1977)
    Candy Apple Grey - Husker Du (1986)
    (Anything(!) by the Residents - maybe have a listen first though)
    Too Much Too Soon - New York Dolls (1972)
    Back in the USA - The MC5 (1970)
    Modern Dance - Pere Ubu (1977)

    - Tim ( )

    ALL of my record collection except for about three LPs and a few
    singles is Stateside releases! Dig that Detroit sound!
    
    J/

    Wow!!! Someone else out there has Blank Generation!!!
    
    Not that I own most of it, but I'll go for most of that stuff too,
    Tim.
    
    Bob

    More news!~
    
    Janet Jackson's `Escapade' is No1 in the US for the 2nd week.  Release
    date over here is March 18th.  (2 days after the Madonna single - It's
    gunna be a good fight!)
    
    
    matty

    `Heart of Glass' is on the radio.  Weren't Blondie great!
    
    Listening to GLR this morning.  They have an Asian doctor on there
    who's mad.  He prescribes things such as eat 24 pumpkin seeds at
    midnight on days with `T' in them.  Or drink soda water, not
    swallowing, but to spit it out of the window that's facing the sun at
    the time.  Listen to him if you get the chance, it's hilarious!
    
    
    matty
    
    read 111.66 (It's a bargain!)

    The new Sam Brown single is on the radio at present - `With A Little
    Love'.  It's good, I like it, I'm gunna buy come payday!  It's not as
    good as stop though.  Up tempo, soul affair with 50s type backing
    singers prominent.
    
    matty             

    Wow!
    
    I just heard a Hip Hop version of `Another Day In Paradise' by a group
    called Jamtronix (ho ho ho).  I bit naff, but I prefer it to Phil
    Collins' version.
    
    Tonight I'm gunna do a House version of `Nothing Comapare 2 U"!!!
    
    
    matty

    Matty, I know that Tim would appreciate some house versions of certain
    U2 numbers
    
    Bob

there is a housey version of "still haven't found what i'm looking for"

...art

    Which prompts me onto something else....
    
    I have a friend who 'digs' all this type of stuff, and he has been
    somewhat surprised when I inform him of the sources of some of the
    samples on these records. Two notable examples spring to mind; the
    first is a piece that lifts comprehensively from U2's 'New Years
    Day', the second is very recognisable as a lift from Talking Heads'
    'Once in a Lifetime'.
    
    Does anyone know what these two records are?
    
    Bob

    The first could be Kiss AMC's `A Bit Of U2'.
    
    It has the `New Years Day' bassline.  Apparently U2 didn't approve
    (suprise suprise) and so the band released the record with initial
    copies being titled  `A Bit Of...'.  They U2 changed their minds
    so they re-titled it.  Kiss AMC have a new single out called `My Docs'. 
    It's a bit "`c'`star-star'`p'".
    
    Don't know about the second one.
    
    I have the 12" mixes of `Two Hearts' and `Desire' which are quite
    dancy, just in case you're interested.
    
    
    me 'gain

    Does anyone have an African House version of Sinead's haircut ??

    Which one do ya want?  The Ugandan House version, the Egyption House
    version or the Sudanese House version (mixed by Frankie Knuckles)?
    Take your pick!  I have each on CD, 7", 12" or cassette!

    You should hear Shane McGown's public house version!

    A scratch version of Shane McGowan's teeth ??

    Well I'm off to town to buy some more records;  Erasure 12" and Lonnie
    Gordon 7".  I can't beleive I like the Lonnie Gordon one.  It's the
    first SAW record that has really got me.  I still love it, even though
    they have played it to death on the radio.  I'm also gunna try and pick
    up the 2nd Depeche Mode 12".
    
    
    matty_who's_a_bit_embarrased_about_going_to_buy_a_SAW_record

    The RM EP features, Happy Mondays, The Beloved, Admaski and Brother
    Delphi.
    
    Here's what else I bought;
    
    Erasure		-	`Blue Savannah'		12"
    Sam Brown		-	`With A Little Love'	7"
    Lonnie Gordon	-	`Happenin' All Over Again'	Cassingle
    Guru Josh		-	`Infinity'			Cassingle
    Madonna            	-	`The Best Of & The Rest Of'	Cassette
    & Otto Von D**khead           Interview on side 2
    Sigue Sigue Sputnik	-	`Flaunt It' ltd edtn Box set LP sort of
    								  thing.
    
    I listened to the 2 cassingle.  Both mixes of the Guru Josh track are
    great, but only the a-side of the Lonnie Gordon one is good.  I'm about
    to out the Madonna one on.
    
    
    matty

    Are you ashmed or proud of it ?
    
    Juju
    xxxx
    

    What ? Ashamed to be proud ? I would be too......
    
    MattyB, a man alone here, in the chart wilderness.....
    
    Anyway, does anybody know much/anything about the Telescopes ?
    
    Juju
    xxx
    xx
    x
    

    No, let me expand on that.
    
    I feel guilty on spending the money on records.  I don't need the
    records to survive, and I'm supposed to be saving up for instruments. 
    I also feel bad spending the money on myself when there are all these
    people starving, and living on the street.
    
    I do feel better when I put some money into an Ambulance man's bucket. 
    I feel good when I buy my friends records (they're all on the dole up
    north).  But most of all I feel good when I put on a record that I've
    heard 100 times and it still sounds perfect.  Today, on the walkman I
    have the `Technique' LP.  I listened to it walking to work, and when
    Vanishing point came on it brought tears to my eyes and sent a chill up
    my spine.  Music goes some way to enhancing my moods and makes me feel
    good.  I'm also proud of my collection.
    
    
    matty

    All I know about the Telescopes is that NME likes them, which must
    mean certain death for them (critically, anyway) in about 6 months
    time....
    
    Bob

    re: .67
    
    I own a copy of their EP called 'The Perfect Needle'.
    Trying to describe the music, I would say oppressive tempo, JAMC-like
    guitars and a distant voice (can't tell you anything about the lyrics,
    I hardly understand what it is about).
    
    I found that record great, especially the title track. They have now
    issued an LP (saw it in a record shop last week) that includes 'The
    Perfect Needle' but I can't tell you anything about it.
    
    Christophe
    

> re. Note 611.68 by SHAPES::BROWNM "Cuts like a blunt plum"
>    
>    I feel guilty on spending the money on records.  I don't need the
>    records to survive, and I'm supposed to be saving up for instruments. 
>    I also feel bad spending the money on myself when there are all these
>    people starving, and living on the street.
>    
>    I do feel better when I put some money into an Ambulance man's bucket. 
>    I feel good when I buy my friends records (they're all on the dole up
>    north).

	Who writes your scripts...Bob Green ???

	Andy

    Maybe a Danny Ortega puppet -;)

    Telescopes - do they then sound a lot like Loop ? 
    
    Juju
    xxxx
    

    I've listened to the Guru Josh non stop since dinner time.  ie about 30
    times.  I love it.  12" for me tommorrow.
    
    
    matty

The Telescopes have an album out called "Taste", I have heard a number of 
different tracks ... Peel Fest 50, NME/CND Video, and in record stores. Very 
fast guitar orientated stuff like Senseless Things. The tracks I've heard have
been OK but I've mellowed out a bit recently and it's getting to be just 'noise'
to me.

BTW I'm back! ... who cares.
Does Mikef work in the Crescent?

    I bought some more records!
    
    Stone Roses - `Made of Stone' 7", `Sally Cimmamon' 12", Kraftwerk
    `Trans Europe Express' LP, Erasure `You Surround Me' 12", Wedding
    Present `Brassneck' 7" and some more that I can't remember!
    
    I also bought a guitar 'cause I needed the cheering up after the
    building burned down.  Charts here I come!
    
    
    matty

>>            <<< Note 611.79 by SHAPES::BROWNM "Cuts like a blunt plum" >>>
>>             -< Gonna have to see a doctor about my vinyl addctn. >-

      Gonna have to see a doctor about your NOTES addiction... ---> -;)

      - Tim

      Do we ask you our `burning' questions ??

    The other record I bought were 49'ers `Touch Me' 12", Adamski `N-R-G'
    12" and Guru Josh `Infinity' Remix 12".  I wasn't pleased with any of
    these, so they've only been played once.  At least they'll be useful
    for parties.
    
    Today I picked up 5 12"s for 2.50 from a shop in Woodley near Reading. 
    They are ABC `The Real Thing', Blue Aeroplanes `Jacket Hangs', Sterling
    Void `Set Me Free', Vernell Foster `Love Joy And Happiness' and Rhythm
    Of Life `A Tropical Shower'.  All but the Blue Aeroplanes 12" are House
    records.  Te;; you what they sound like tommorrow.
    
    By the way, I'm working in Winnerh now, in the MPG area.
    
    
    matty bugging on out.

    Matty,
    
    You know I mentioned about acetates...I can get an address where 
    you can get your own track pressed onto vinyl; 
    with a three colour label of your design for 50p a copy.
    
    I'll get the address for you if you want.
    
    J/

    Yeah thanks J.
    
    I bought some more records at the weekend.  I got `Made Of Stone' The
    Stone Roses cassingle and 6 singles cheap from Woolies.  They were Baby
    Ford `Beach Jump'. Culture Beat `Der Erdbeermund', Terence Trent
    D'Arby `To Know Someone Deeply is to know someone softly', Izit
    `Stories', Max Q `Sometimes' and Liza Minelli `Don't Drop Bombs'.
    
    I like the Stone Roses and Baby Ford songs best.  The Terence T.D'Arby
    b-side is a nice mellow piano track, which I also like.  I'm getting
    into the Stone Roses now.  Yesterday I went on a 4 hour walk round
    Basingstoke with just 3 cassingles.  Stone Roses `Elephant Stone',
    `Made Of Stone' and Guru Josh's `Infinity'.  4 hours non-stop of the
    same few songs and I didn't get bored with any, in fact I reckon I got
    more hooked.
    
    I also ordered Divine & Statton's 12" version of New Orders `Bizarre Love
    Triangle'.  Can't wait to hear it.
    
    Has anyone heard the Strings Of Love's version of PSB's `Nothing Has
    Been Proved'?  I'm hesitant about buying it.
    
    
    more later
    
    matty

    My Dad bought me a record.  Isn't that nice.
    
    He went to France and picked up Madonna - `Oh Father' 7".  It wasn't
    released in theis country and the cover is different to the American
    release.
    
    
    matty

    Here's the records I bought since last time I entered something;
    
    Jean Michel Jarre		-	Zoolook LP (only 99p!)
    Cyndi Lauper		-	My First Night Without You 12"(50p)
    Madonna			-	Keep It Together US cassingle
    Allannah Myles		-	Black Velvet 12" (50p)
    Renegade Soundwave		-	Probably A Robbery 7" (25p)
    T'Pau			-	Only The Lonely 12" (50p)
    B52's			-	Love Shack - picture disc 7"
    Erasure			-	Blue Savannah remix 12"
    Erasure			-	Blue Savannah cassingle
    Nitzer Ebb			-	Lightning Man remix 12"
    Depeche Mode		-	Enjoy the Silence 2nd 12"
    Malcolm Maclaren & Lisa Marie -	Something Jumpin' In Your Shirt 12"
    									(50p)
    Happy Monday		-	WFL 12"
    The Beloved			-	Hello (25p)
    Bros			-	I Quit 12" (I thought it had the
    				acid version on it, but it hasn't!)  50p
    Candy Flip			-	Stawberry Fields 7"
    Petula Clark		-	Downtown 88 12" (50p)
    Inspiral Carpets		-	This Is How It Feels 12"
    Madonna			-	Oh Father French 7"
    Tone Loc			-	I Got It Goin' On 12" (50p)
    Microgroove			-	What It Is 7" (25 p)
    Paul McCartney		-	Put It There 7" (25p)
    Michelle			-	No More Lies 12" (50p)
    U2				-	A Celebration Irish 7"
    
    Loads of bargains, and loads of records I couldn't get from
    Basingstoke.  Some were from Reading and some from Bournemouth.
    
    I'm dead pleased about the Madonna items, the Depeche Mode 12", the
    Erasure 12" and the U2 single.  (Which I swapped for my `One Tree Hill'
    Australian 7".
    
    
    matty

Lurvve the Renegade Soundwave track "Probably a robbery, bit of skullduggery".

    RE. Renegade Soundwave : I would prefer it if he had a Leeds accent!
    
    Bought some more records last night:  Depeche Mode cassette, Beloced
    cassingle `Your Love Takes Me Higher' and Beats International `Dub Be
    Good To Me' remix 12".  The last two I listened to and wasn't too
    impressed, but nice to have anyway.
    
    
    Watched Snub last night and thought James were great.  I've never heard
    them before, but now I want a couple of albums and a few 12" of theirs. 
    Made be listen to the Band Of Holy joy - love them too!
    
    Did anyone see Wogan.  They had Cutmaster Swift on there mixing.  Some
    of it I thought was cool, but some was just too messed around.
    
    
    matty

    The DJ mixing finals are tonight.....Does anyone know if its going to
    be televised?
    
    Cheers, Craig.

    More record last night.  Let me into a record shop and I won't come out
    empty handed (unless I'm skint!).  My excuse is that I was looking for
    the Spandau record for Ilse.
    
    Geoffrey Williams		-	`Blue' 12"
    Stone Roses			-	`She Bangs The Drums' 12"
    Stone Roses			-	`She Bangs The Drums' 7"
    Kym Mazelle			-	`Love Strain' 12"
    Kym Mazelle			-	`Was That All It Was?' 7"
    Sound Marines		-	`Cat Woman' 12" promo
    Liza Minelli		-	`Love Pains' 12"
    
    All were cheap except for the Stone Roses stuff.  You really ought to
    listen to the Geoffrey Williams record.  I normally don't like soul
    music, but this sounds like Marvin Gaye crossed with an angel.  I saw
    him sing it live on the James Whale show (Mod: am I allowed to mention
    the James Whale show in this conference.  If not then please censor!). 
    Great song, production and performance.  If Lisa Stansfield had done it
    it would be No1 for 5 weeks!  I like the Stone Roses stuff and the Liza
    Minelli a side too.  The later is mixed by Steve `Silk' Hurley and is
    backed with `Rent' (Which is a bit dud actually).
    
    Some news later.  Oh - anyone object to me starting a Madonna topic?
    
    
    matty

    Found a great record shop in Reading called the Record Basement.  Full
    of promos, white labels, DMC remixes, imports etc.  Apparently Ben
    Liebrand was in the shop yesterday, before the DMC World Championship.
    
    Anyway, I picked up and DMC megamix/remix 12" which includes an
    exclusive remix of Madonna's `Open Your Heart' by Ben Liebrand, which
    runs for 7:30.  The record also includes a Kurtis Blow megamix and 2
    various magamixes.  About 45 mins total.  Not bad for 7.50!
    
    I also picked up the promo 12" of te new Debbie Harry single `Sweet And
    Low'.  Same tracks as the normal 12", but it'll be worth more in the
    future.
    
    Sorry Ilse.  I looked for `Crashed Into Love' and they didn't have it. 
    Never fear, matty's here (in a record shop in the near future).
    
    Can't wait till Friday.  Back to the shop!
    
    
    matty

Matty,
	where is this shop?

cheers...

...art

    I think the road is the Kings Road, but I'm not sure.  If you stand
    where the Butts centre is on the side nearest HMV.  Then walk away from
    the town centre for about 500 yards.  It about 50 yards past the
    Snooker centre on the left.  Their is also another shop that looks
    pretty good on the right, but not so far down.  This other shop had the
    walls literally covered with picture discs.  I only had 20 minutes in
    the shop.  I could spend half a day in each of those shops.  I might
    have to book a day off!
    
    Do you have an idea where it is now?
    
    
    matty

	Matty,

	I'm curious....how/where do you store all these records/cds that 
	you have and what is your indexing system like. Can you remember
	everything that you already have, or do you occasionally buy a 
	'duplicate'. Also do the record shops contact you directly as
	soon as they get something 'interesting' in ?????????

	P1

    I haven't been buying too long, so the record collection isn't THAT
    big.  I have shelves that I put everything on.  I know what I've got,
    and the ony duplicate I have are Madonna US releases that I was sent
    twice by mistake!  No, the records shops don't contact me.  They used
    to when I was up north, but now I just trundle on into town and look
    around.  If I knew everything that was out I would spend twice as much!
                      
    As for filing.  I file the 12"s seperate, the 7"s seperate, the
    cassettes seperate and I only have 7 CD's.  The 7" and 12"s are filed
    in alphabetical order of group or last name, then LP's in chromological
    order, the 12" on chromological order, then limited editions, picture
    discs etc.  The whole collection is on a WPS document, which is filed
    the same way, only all formats are collated.  This document states all
    the tracks mixes and sometime duration.  The problem is keeping up to
    date!  Oh, my cassettes are all over the place!
    
    My Madonna 12"/records (all 60 of them!) are filed seperately in a
    record box.  Most of these are in plastic sleeves.  I would like to
    sleeve all my records in plastic sleeves but it would cost nearly 70
    quid!  My picture discs are all in cardboard sleeves, like the ones Our
    Price use for their filing.
    
    Anyone got any better ideas?
    
    
    matty

    Oxford Road not Kings Road
    
    ;') you can tell he's Basingstoke_type_person!
    
    Paul

Matty, 

Do you mean in chronological order ??? !!!


Have you seen Madonna video "Ciao Italia" ???

    Yes I did mean chronological order!!!  Sometimes I think to myself
    `What a dork!'.  `D' hat for me!
    
    I have seen part of the video, but I'm not really too bothered about
    that sort of thing.  When I get a video recorder I might buy the
    videos, but not yet.  I do have a bootleg which has various Madonna
    clips on it including her on America's Saturday Night Live singling
    A-Ha's Take On Me in a Mexican accent!
    
    
    matty

I was curious if you were just buying records for their covers to match
the colour scheme of your room !

Your collection must have doubled in size since you set up this note ! 

 

    
    Where do you put 12 inch singles that play at 33rpm?

......and concentric grooved 10"s !

    That record shop in Oxford Rd is where Lee Cotton and I picked up
    John & Yoko's "Two Virgins".

    Or maybe I should start up a note of my own -;)

    - Tim

    ....to match the colour scheme that is...anyone got The White Album by
    Beatle Band ??

    The 10" go on the end of the 7" (all 2 of them!)  the LPs and 12" are
    mixed together.  Also I put books on the end to cushion the end records.
    
    
    I could put the red ones on the left and go through the spectrum. 
    Although I haven't got any ultra-violet coloured records!
    
    
    matty (who likes to put ! everywhere!)

    re .104
    
    I only have that one on tape, but I can do you a nice 'Green' by
    REM, offset with the Band's 'Music from Big Pink'.
    
    Bob

What about Bobby Brown, Pink Floyd, Simply Red, Black, Prince's Black Album, 
Nights in White Satin, Purple Rain, Yello, Blue Monday, King Crimson,
The Lemon Song, or Orange Crush? Or The Christians 'Colours'?

    If my room decorations matched all that lot, I'd move out!
    
    Bob

    I got some more records last night;
    
    Candy Flip		-	Stawberry Fields Remix 12"
    Jellybean		-	Wotupski LP
    Inspiral Carpets	-	This Is How It Feels remix 12" numbered
    Nitzer Ebb		-	Control I'm Here 12"
    
    The Candy Flip remix doesn't make the grade.  The Jellbean LP has only
    5 tracks, which are all a bit dodgy, except for `Sidewalk Talk' with
    Madonna, and it has one hell of a cover (graffiti).  The Inspiral
    Carpets remix is crap!  The a side is the robbery mix.  It's called
    that 'cause someone nicked the song!  And the drum mix on the other
    side is just as bad.  But it is a nice collectors item.  I got No 1079.
    The Nitzer Ebb 12" is great, but it jumps more than a Kangaroo does in
    a lifetime.  In fact more than a whole family!  Hope I can get another
    copy.
    
    Mike Fiddler, The Fall's `Popcorn Double Feature' is in Our Price on
    limited edtion with different cover, I'm not sure about the songs
    though.
    
    
    matty

    more records;
    
    
    Ciccone Youth		-	Whitey Album (Madonna Madonna
    					Madonna)         LP
    
    Kim Wilde			-	4 Letter Word 12"
    Baby Ford			-	Chikki Chikki Ahh Ahh 12"
    Madness			-	House Of Fun 7" Picture Disc
    Erasure			-	Blue Savannah 3rd 12" limited edtn.
    Prince			-	Around The World In A Day LP
    and something else that I Can't remember.  Al from Weymouth, Reading
    and Boringstoke.  I get around don't I?  I have a right collection of
    record shop carrier bags!
    
    Madonna's new single is in the shops today and I haven't even heard it
    yet!
    
    What about the No1?  Can you believe it?  New entry at 12 then jump to
    No1?  Snap `The Power'.  I don't even think it's any good!  Maybe I'm
    getting old.  I like the highest new entry (22?) by the Bizz Ness (?)
    
    
    matty

This Erasure 12" you mention - Blue Savannah. Is it any good? Does it have the 
7" version on it. I like the single and have seen the 2nd 12"mix in the shops 
(silvery covery and impossible to read the writing !). Anything special about
this third 12" ???

    I got the Madonna single on 7" Cassingle and CD, but I still haven't
    heard it!
    
    
    matty

    Does anyone at Winnersh (WLC) have a walkman I could borrow for
    5 minutes?  I have the Madonna tape in my pocket and it's driving me
    mad because I can't hear it.
    
    
    matty

    Matty - no.
    
    ;')

    I bought;
    
    Stone Roses	-	She Bangs The Drums (includes Simone) cassingle
    The Shamen	-	Pro>Gen 12"
    Innocence	-	Natural Thing cassingle
    
    
    matty (I'll be cutting down as from next week.  How about a national no
    record buying day?)

	Ok...I declare April 1st 1990 - No record-buying day !!

Does that means that the 1st is a no-noting day for our young consumer of the
year, Mattyb?  SMILE!

Lee

    Time for a little relaxation tonight, listening to my new purchases
    (although only one is a 'new' record). These are 'House Tornado',
    by Throwing Muses, 'Life in Exile After Abdication' by Maureen
    'ex-Velvets drummist' Tuckers, and, at last, the eagerly awaited
    'Flood' from They Might Be Giants.
    
    Bob

    Bob,
    
    Will I like `Flood'?  I like the single, but I can't stand duff tracks. 
    I don't want it if it has any duff tracks on it?
    
    As for April the 1st as no record buying day, it's no good!  It's a
    Sunday!  And I'll be travelling up to Warrington that day anyway!
    
    
    matty

    Matty,
    
    full review of 'Flood' to follow when I have assimilated it!
    
    Bob

    RE .121 - Thanks Bob.
    
    I bought The Shamen's `Phorward' 10" LP last night.  It contains 6
    tracks, most of which are okay, but similar sounding.  The only track
    that stands out is `You Me And Everything'.
    
    
    matty

    Back Agen... Is the Happy Mondays single out yet?
    
    Mikef

    Mike,
    
    I should've been out on Monday (just passed for those who have been
    alseep), but I haven't actually seen it.  Has anyone heard it?  Is it
    any good?
    
    Also, that Fall ltd edtn is also out on 7".
    
    
    matty

    I bought 2 LP's - Martin Gore - `Counterfeit` EP and Various (Madonna,
    U2, Run DMC, Bruce Springers, Eurythmics etc.) `A Very Special
    Christmas'.
    
    I already have the Christmas LP 'cause it has Madonna on it, doing
    `Santa Baby' (Eartha Kitt did it in '53) in Betty Boop style.  Love it! 
    The U2 tracks is great too.  Only 2.99 from WH Smith (they have a sale
    on)
    
    The Martin Gore LP is brilliant.  I haven't bought a record as good as
    this for a while.  10 times better than Depeche Mode's `Violator',
    athough I can't get `Put It On' out of my head.  Also 2.99 from WHS.
    The music is the mellancholy/synth type of stuff that DM do, and it
    really shows just how much Martin has to do with the overall sound
    (never mind the songwriting).
    
    Buy it!
    
    matty
    

    Matty - is that WHS in Reading or B'stoke?
    
    Mikef (suffering in Newbury)

    Picked up the Happy Mondays 12" `Step On' which has 2 mixes.  It's
    pretty good, not brilliant, just good.  I'd like to hear John Kongas'
    original for the comparison.
    
    I also got the Jesus Jones single `Real Real Real'.  The one I got is a
    limited edition thingy with 4 litho prints, a badge, a fold out outer
    sleeve, and a different picture inner sleeve.  ie. different to the
    normal 7".  The record is OK and sounds like the Shamen (voice wise),
    but it isn't good enough to get played much.  I got bad reviews, while
    their previous efforts got good ones.  I haven't heard any of those
    earlier records, and I'm dying to hear `Info Freako'.  Is it worth
    buying?  12" or just the 7"?
    
    
    matty

I would buy the 26 inch version of "Info Freako" where you get the lead singers
underpants, the guitarists toenail clippings, and a slap in the jaw from the guy
behind the checkout desk ... well worth the money.

pStuart

    Bob,  you said in a note somewhere else that 12", or maybe it was
    something about all the remixes.  I get all the remixes in hope that I
    find the best version.  I love a good arrangement, which isn't always
    on the 7".  But a bad example is `West End Girls' by the Pet Shop Boys. 
    I have about 10 versions of it on about 7 records.  Out of the lot the
    best version, in my opnion, is the normal, plain 7" version.  I'm glad
    I bought the lot though, I don't know why, but I am!  Some of the
    versions have an extra verse which is quite good too!
    
    
    matty

    Matty,
    
    basically I am talking about my own personal choice here - because
    I have somewhat limited funds, I don't buy singles of any description.
    I tend to wait until the relevant lp is released.
    
    Bob

    Well, of course, Dave, I wouldn't buy an lp just for the one track,
    I'd have a listen to it first! 
    
    Bob
    
    p.s. I wouldn't have bought BB in the first place, either!!

    Does no-one else just buy an album on 'instinct'?  I often get records
    that I know very little about - in fact for my birthday or crimbo
    pressies, I often ask for albums about which I know nothing, but have a
    vague interest in or feel for.
    
    Of course, this doesn't happen too often nowadays, and after the start
    of April I can see my record buying falling off drastically.  Is there
    any point in living any more, we ask.
    
    Mikef

    All the time, in secondhand stores. I often go for things on 4AD or
    Rough Trade, for example. But if they turn out to be dogs I just bring
    them back and trade for something else.
    
    Dave

    Mike, I do buy records by instinct sometimes, which is how I
    'discovered' Throwing Muses and They Might Be Giants. I find the
    kind of information and opinion that can be gained from reading
    notes is also very useful. It's because of this that I asked BS
    to do me a tape, which led to me realising the timeless wonder of
    bands like James, Man From Delmonte, Bob, In-SpIral Carpets etc.
    
    Bob

    I'm getting worried about myself.  I'm buying some records before I've
    heard them, either because of the hype and reviews or because I feel I
    ought to own a few of there records.  For instance I haven't got any
    Smiths records, and I like some of what I've heard, but when I get
    round to it I'll buy a few of their records 'cause I feel I ought to
    own some.  When someone says `Do you like the Smiths' I could say `Yes! 
    I have Panic 12" and the last 4 LP's'.  It's silly really.
    
    
    matty

    
    Is it really your last day, matty?

Greenb>    p.s. I wouldn't have bought BB in the first place, either!!
    
    I'm sure I've heard a remixed version of this on the radio a few times
    recently, so I suspect it's been reissued, giving you another chance to
    demonstrate your good taste (by not buying it).
    
    
    Rod

    RE. -3
    
    Yeah!  I just moved jobs.  I'm now at the NLC, Warrington.
    
    
    matty

    They bought me some record tokens as a leaving present.  This is what I
    got;
    
    Various	-	Product 2378  (It's pretty good)
    Stone Roses	-	Stone Roses (It's Bloody Good)
    Baby Ford	-	Ooo The World Of... (It's Bloody goog too!)
    
    I love Kennedy by the Wedding Present.
    
    
    matty

    
    New job eh Matty ?
                                                      
    Does this mean you'll be doing some work now 8^) ??

Well Tony,
	As you put the question in some 12 minutes ago, and Matty hasn't yet
replied, then I think the answer must be a resounding "YES"!


:-)

Steve

    It's dinnertimes only now!  Oh, and sometimes after 5.30.  Can U cope
    without me?  Not a lot of time to practice guitar either.  I'll think
    I'll apply for a terminal for home in Doncaster, so I can talk to
    myself at weekends.
    
    
    matty

    Have you also noticed that I haven't bought any records for about 5
    days?   It's amazing what hypnosis can do!
    
    
    matty

    
    5 days ??
                                                           
    Blimey - Matty, sit down and pour youself a stiff drink!!

    Never mind, Matty, you'll just have to restrict yourself to buying
    only *good* records, now.
    
    Bob

    Hey Bob,
    
    I thought you liked my records!  Or are you just taping them for you
    sister?
    
    matty

    Errrm, no, I'm just feeling flippant, which has been brought on
    by the ecstatic feelings I get from listening to the new They Might
    Be Giants lp. I was going to review it, but words fail me. It takes
    a couple of plays, but it is just brilliant. If you like the single,
    you'll love the lp.
    
    Bob

    I have to ask somewhere, so it might as well be here!
    
    I've got a new All-In-1 account up here at the NLC, and notes is weird. 
    I don't understand how to do what.  Notes on this account (@UCG now
    deceased) is the type where you get the Notes> prompt.  Could someone
    send me mail on how to use Notes in the new version of All-In-1.
    
    Just to make this note music related I will say;  I heard a DJ only
    copy of ABC's `The Look Of Love' called the (Special Remix) 7.37, mixed
    by Trevor Horn.  It ain't very good!
    
    
    matty

 >  Just to make this note music related I will say;  I heard a DJ only
 >  copy of ABC's `The Look Of Love' called the (Special Remix) 7.37, mixed
 >  by Trevor Horn.  It ain't very good!
 
    Is this the same as the new '90 remix? 

    Try TRUCKS::NOTE_HELP for notes questions...

    RE.-1  Thanks!
    
    RE.-2  The special remix is from the first time round.
    
    
    matty

    Bought loads of records from Doncaster.  Ain't life just great?
    
    Chanelle		-	One Man 7"
    Depeche Mode	-	Personal Jesus 7"
    House Of Love	-	Shine On 7"
    Dream Academy	-	Life In A Northern Town 7"
    Kon Kan		-	I Beg Your Pardon 7"
    Inpiral Carpets	-	Joe 7" Flexi
    Eurthymics		-	Who's That Girl 7"
    Flying Pickets	-	Only You 7"
    Mantronix		-	Got To Have Your Love 7"
    S-Express		-	Mantra For A State Of Mind 7"
    FPI Project		-	Rich In Paradise 7"
    Shakespears's Sister-	Your History 7"
    Strings Of Love	-	Nothing Has Been Proved 7"
    Bernadette Washing.	-	Crossing The Beat 7"
    That Petrol Emotion	-	Abandon 7"
    A-Ha		-	Hunting High And Low 7"
    Sydney Youngblood	-	I'd Rather Go Blind - box pack 7"
    Deborah Harry	-	Sweet And Low - Poster sleeve 7"
    808 State		-	Pacific 7"
    808 State		-	Extended Pleasure Of Dance ep 12"
    Alison Williams	-	I Need Your Lovin' 12"
    Nitzer Ebb		-	Shame 12"
    Billy Joel		-	I Go To Extremes/Uptown Girl 12"
    The Beloved		-	Your Love Takes Me Higher shaped pic disc
    The Beloved		-	Your Love Takes Me Higher 12"
    Madonna		-	Vogue 7" pic disc, 12" pic disc, 12"
    Madonna		-	Vogue 12" with poster, 12" remix + poster
    
    All that on a Saturday morning.  And I went and bought loads more
    Scallie clothes!
    
    
    matty_who's_gunna_have_more_records_than_Radio_1_before_he_dies!

    That sounds great Matty!  Have you got round to buying a record player
    yet?
    
    Mikef

    Nope!  But I did buy a Walkman on saturday.  It's the first tape
    machine I've owned for 2 and a half years!  I've never had my own
    record player!  I'll get one one day, before they phase 'em out
    perhaps.
    
    
    matty

    You all thought that because I hadn't entered any new record in this
    topic over the last 2 weeks, that I hadn't bought anything!  Well I did
    really.  Most of 'em were cheap from Rotherham or Doncaster;
    
    Debbie Harry		Rockbird		Cassette
    Dusty Springfield		In Private		Cassingle
    Cyndi Lauper		Heading West		Cassingle
    Jesus Jones			Real Real Real		12" + Poster
    Jesus Jones			Real Real Real		12" remix
    Happy Mondays		Wrote For Luck		12" (original mixes)
    Kim Wilde			Kids In America		7"
    A-Ha			Take On Me		7"
    Altered Images		I Could Be Happy	7" Pic Disc
    Stone Roses			Sally Cinnamon		7"
    Stone Roses			Sally Cinnamon		Cassingle
    Stone Roses			Fools Gold 9.53		12" US import
    House Of Love		Beatles And The Stones	7" Ltd Edtn pack
    Shamen			Pro Gen			7"
    Shamen			Pro Gen			12" remix
    Sam Fox (sick or what?)	Greatest Hits		Cassette
    Bizet			Carmen Highlights	Cassette
    Happy Mondays		Step On			Cassingle (3 mixes)
    Various (S-Express etc)	BP Lifestyle Hits	Cassette
    Various (Krush etc)		Commodore Juke Box	Cassette
    Madonna			Mystery Girls EP	7" bootleg (Live)
    Madonna			Vogue			12" US Promo
    Darling Buds		Pop Said		LP
    A-Me Lorain			Whole Wide World	12"
    Chimes			Heaven			12"
    Ruthjoy			Soul Power		12"
    Julia Fordham		Where Does The Time Go?	12"
    Blondie			Parallel Lines		LP
    Salt N Pepa			Expression		12" remix
    Kraftwerk			Computer World		LP
    Various			Keyboard Magaine	7" flexi (v. good)
    
    This weekend I'll probably get UB40's Kingston Town and the Inspiral
    Carpets LP Life.
    
    Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me.  $hit I'm 20 already and
    not even famous.  I wanna be 12!  (now you're all supposed to feel
    sorry for me and shower me with your record collections, money is
    welcome also!)
    
    
    matty

    Hey Matty, that's my mate Alan singing backing vocals on Kids In
    America!
    
    Well, that's my claim to fame....!
    
    Bob

    Happy Elephant to Matty!!!
    
    Did you get a record player?  Are you going to Madonna?  All these
    burning questions and more!!
    
    Mikef
    
    PS, only a few days to meeting Bob!!!!

    So, you're going to be there too, Mike? I will be recognised by
    my total lack of flares, accompanied by eye-shattering shirt.
    
    To change to subject completely; tonight at 11.20, on a TV near
    you, Lou Reed and John Cale will be performing songs from their
    new lp, Songs For Drella. I've heard about half of the lp, and it
    is a corker. Despite differences in direction taken by Cale and
    Reed (IMO, Cale's work is superior) since the VU days, the old magic
    is still very much there.
    
    Bob

    Hi! Hello! Heyup! (Jan, what's Dutch for Hello?)
    
    You can recognise me by my flares, CND leather meddallion, British
    Knights and purple tops...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    ...except I'm not going to the concert!
    
    On Radio 1 they're offering Madonna basque as a prize (the one in the
    La Isla Bonita vid), except they've lost it!)
    
    
    matty

    Groove of the month...
    
    The Farm - Stepping stone 12".  Slight change of style for the
    rabscallious chappies, very influenced by the Happy Mondays, etc, but
    none the worse for it.  In fact, its an excellent reord.  The boogie
    record of the summer, methinks.  Well worth getting (Mattyb, Stuartp,
    Ed, Bobbyg, etc).
    
    (plus, it has a sheep on the cover, what more could you ask for!!)
    
    Mikef

    I like the idea of a sheep on the cover.  I hate all this 90's thing,
    let's get back to the 60's.  Down with censorship.  Baa!
    
    
    matty

    Hi Matty, (Hallo!)
    
    A late "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" from me too!!!
    I hope you got lots of presents.....?????
    
    It's the first time I read this note; I didn't know 
    you have that many records!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Great!!!
    
    Do you ever have time to listen to them???
    (apart from the fact that I understand that you don't even own
    a record player???.................)
                       
    Cheers,
    Ilse.
                                       
    

    I don't have time to listen to them!  I have a few that I've only
    played the once, and loads that I've only played the a-side, or one of
    the mixes.  It's a stupid situation really.  I kid myself that I wanna
    become a DJ and that all those records will become of use, but my first
    target is to be a artist/songwriter.
    
    My ambitions are 1... Famous chart/dance artist, 2... World Champion
    fisherman, 3... Hot DJ/Remixer/Producer type.
    
    Jan,  Is it easy to match beats?  I reckon I might go for some of that,
    just for the laugh, and for parties.  I have some parties coming up -
    Just my records, disco light and my mates MIDI system.  (Oh and me)
    
    
    buggin' on out for tea!
    
    
    matty

The Farm single Mr Fiddler, is it on CD ... Bruce phoned last night, white label
copy of new PWEI single is winging it's way to moi! I always liked the guy.

Stuartp

     You Swine!!  I heard the Poppies on peel the other night, sounded
    quite good.  
    
    I may be seeing Bruce in Leeds for a Weddoes gig (meeting him at
    last!1).
    
    Mikef
    
    PS - Dunno about the Farm single

    Hey Mike! Are you going to this Inspiral Carpets gig on Sunday?
    
    Bob

    yep!!
    
    see you there
    
    Mikef

Grebo Guru  told  me this note has a reference to an Album advertised in the
NME  in March with Wedding Present, Pixies, New Order, etc on it. I'd like a
songlist if anyone has it?! Please...

Matty, your  Mad'  was  on  a late nite TV show over here the other nite. My
sister-in-law  recorded  it...she was "biting" with her remarks. The censors
were  kept  awake  too.  They  showed  some  clips from her new movie, "Dick
Tracy"?

Only, why doesn't she dye her facial hair too!

Ed

    Whatsa new PWEI called?  Is it any good?

    Oh, nearly forgot!

    No, I did forget!

    I remember!
    
    HPSAD::ARTHUR (nearly) do you have anymore words on file (You once sent
    me everything Ian Cutis said).  In particular I'm after New Order and
    Stone Roses lyrics.  I don't suppose...
    
    
    matty

	       Sorry, just Joy Division...That's HPSRAD...

		(I keep forgetting to remember to forget)

				    Ed

is called "Touched by the Hand of Cicciolina"

    Any good?
    
    

    Hey funky dudes...anyone remember the name of any of Dave Edmunds hits
    (any at all).  I can remember ' I knew the bride...', but others escape
    me, I think he has had quite a few sizable hits.
    
    Wasn't there one with a video that had him wondering around the streets
    of New York?
    
    Hmmm
    
    Mikef

    I'm afraid Dave Edmunds never had any hits on this side of the Channel.
    Sorry.
    
    Christophe (more funky than me, you die.)

    RE. Dave Edmunds - "You Keep Knocking" (But they Can't Come In)???
    
    I read about the PWEI single in NME last night.  Ciccolina is an
    Italian Politian/Porno star.  (She was once on the Johnathon Ross show)
    
    Apparently they are so infatuated with her they're gunna go over there
    and meet her.
    
    Can anyone suggest what PWEI stuff I should buy.  I have loads of mixes
    of Can U Dig It? and Wise Up Sucker, but I've not heard anything else.
    
    
    matty

    My favourites are "There is no love between us anymore" and "Oh Grebo I
    think I love you" (that's earlier stuff), but since I often have weird
    taste, you'd better wait for a second advice before considering any
    expenses. (I could already hear you 'Hey whats this crap that @#!!&
    Frenchman recommended me' - well I suppose your Victorian education
    forbids you to use such foul language, but the meaning would be the
    same.)
    
    Christophe.
    
    BTW isn't "You Keep Knocking (But They Can't Come In)" the same
    song as "Keep On Knockin' (But You Can't Come In)" originally written
    by (for) Little Richard that the Woodentops brilliantly covered last
    year ?

    The Dave Edmunds hit was "I Hear You Knocking", an old blues tune
    by someone like Muddy Waters (?) as opposed to Little Richard's
    "You Keep a-Knockin' (But You Can't Come In). Classics both, though.
    
    Edmunds also had a hit in about 1969 with his band Love Sculpture,
    playing a reworking of a classical piece by Khatchaturian (? sp?)
    called Sabre Dance.
    
    He also worked with Nick Lowe in one of the incarnations of Rockpile,
    and "Girls Talk" is an Elvis Costello song.
    
    Bob

    thanks dudes.
    
    Re a couple back...what Woodentops song from last year???
    
    Mikef

    In France there's an excellent monthly magazine called 'Les 
    Inrockuptibles' that releases (nearly) 4 times a year a compilation LP 
    with tracks from the groups they praise in their columns. On the last
    one, (Les Inrockuptibles - Un Printemps 1990) are featured groups like
    James, The Beautiful South, The Sundays, Lush, The Field Mice, etc...
    They have imo very good taste.
    
    On one of last year's there was this track by the Woodentops 'Keep A
    Knockin'. It said one the sleeve this was an 'unreleased' track, which 
    I usually translate as 'not yet released' and it often proves true
    (well this time maybe not).
    
    Christophe.

    
    Mattyb
    
    Try reading through note 162 on ZENDIA::RADIO_RADIO to get an idea
    of PWEI
    
    Dont worry we're all there!
    
    Supertemp!
    

The first album is a killer, one of the best of 1988 (IMO), called Box Fenzy. In
the US they seem to call it Go Box Fenzy. The second album is good to but it
took a few listens. 

Before they did this sort of indie/rap/rock stuff they had a mini album called
"Poppiecock" on Chapter 22 their old label. When they signed to RCA, Chap 22
re-released on CD but the Poppies said not to buy it. Some of it is OK, fore-
runner of the Wonderstuff (even Miles said so!), it was called "Feast" or "Now 
for a Feast".

They have one other EP with a couple of tracks not on any album, "PWEIzation"
and "92 Degrees Farenheit", both excellent tracks and worth having ... isn't
that right Jim!

Check out 162 note in Rad_rad, it's where I started my noting.
Guru.

    P.W.E.I did a superior version of Love Missile F1-11, a cover of
    the Siegue Siegue Sputnik hit.....
    
    Juju
    xxxx
    

    I bought a MIDI system!!!!  Send me you blank tapes!!!  Whaddya
    want????  3 C90's full of `West End Girls' mixes???
    
    Roland D20, mixer, amp, mikes and portastudio within 6 months!!! 
    (Spent 1 hour making House on a D20 in a shop on Saturday - gotta have
    one!)
    
    Madonna's been toppled by Adamski.  Love it!
    
    
    matty

    Matty - do you get a mag called Spiral Scratch? I just picked up the
    April Issue, quite a lot of Madonna stuff floating around in it, plus a
    Depeche Mode discography.
    
    Mikef

    Congratulations Matty!!!
    
    Lets cross our fingers and hope that you will 
    actually "like" all your music as well.......!!!
    
    Good luck with it!!
    
    Cheers,
    
    Ilse.
                                                 

    Spiral Scratch?  Sounds like a chocholate bar or summat!  Mike, where
    do you get it from?  My problem with music papers (and fishing papers -
    another `hobby/obsession' of mine) is that I by them, like NME, MM, SH
    & No1, but don't read them.  Oh, while I'm at it, if anyone has any
    interesting items, like pictures and posters, stuff that I can stick on
    my wall, I'd be grateful.  I'm decorating my weekend home in Doncaster
    you see.  Pictures of anything that looks good will do, even if I hate
    the group or whatever.
    
    Have you heard of Rave magazine?  It's all dance music.  Not very good,
    but not too bad either.  I'm gunna try out Jocks magazine, thanks to
    Jan.  Also, have you tried Catalogue.  It's an Indie trade magazine and
    comes with a flexi each month.  It's available in good record shops
    now!  I have one with an exclusive Inspiral Carpets interview and a
    `Joe' live at the T&C flexi.
    
    RE.-1  Ilse (splet it right!), send me a tape.  I can do you West End
    Girls with different words, West End Girls with Sunglasses at Night
    mixed in, or with One More Chance.  You name it!  (Except the 10"
    version)
    
    A few notes back I asked about help on the latest version of Notes, ie
    Electronic Conferencing.  Someone pointed me to the TRUCKS::NOTE_HELP
    conference.  Unfortunately I can't get in.  Do I have a spelling
    mistake somewhere?
    
    
    matty (off to the gym to make some muscles)

    Picked up some records on Saturday;
    
    Way Of Life		-	(can't remember title) 7"
    Nick Kamen		-	Promised Myself 7"pic disc (I love it)
    Q Tee		-	A.F.R.I.C.A. 7"
    Sunsonic		-	A Kind Of Loving 7"
    Tol & Tol		-	Eleni 7" (Has anyone heard this?)
    Various		-	Brits 1990 (I had to have Voodoo Ray) 7"
    Inspiral Carpets	-	Life Cassette
    James		-	How Was It For You (Thanks Bruce, love the
    				b-side Lazy) 12"
    Adamski		-	Killer 12"
    Soft Cell		-	Tainted Love 7" (At last!!!!)
    Joy Division	-	Unknown Pleasures LP
    Madonna		-	Open Your Heart - Japanese 7"
    
    
    me

    Hi!
    
    Jeeeeeeeeeee, did you really buy Tol & Tol's "Eleni" ???????????
    I certainly heard that one! sorry, but I hate that music! :-(      
    As you probably know, it's Dutch, and in Holland we call
    this music "paling-sound". Tol & Tol are brothers and they 
    used to play in a band called "BZN", also paling-sound.
    We call it like that because these artists come from a village
    called "Volendam" and that is famous for it's fishing...
    (Ooooooooh, now I know why you like it .....!!!!!!!!!!!) 
    anyway, famous for it's fishing, esp. "paling"!
    So that explaines it all!! geddit?
    BTW did you play a lot on your MIDI-system yet??
    
    Cheers,
    Ilse.
     
                                         

    Well I like it!  It sounds like a slowed down Lambada!
    
    And yes, I have played my MIDI system alot.  In fact I haven't watched
    TV since I bought it, or read a book, or a magazine!  Taping taping
    taping.
    
    Calling JUMBLY::OCONNOR!  Tim, if you're the only Tim O'Connor in DEC
    UK I noticed your name on a Distribution list for the I&A course.  I'm
    on it (25/05ish).  I wanna learn how to make everyone like my music!
    
    
    
    matty

    Who saw Celebration on Sunday night?  Were Northside good or what?
    
    
    matty

    I just heard the New Order single `World In Motion'.  The John Barnes
    rap is serious, it's well poppy (like the Electronic single), it's
    catchy, and they've bought a new drum machine since Technique. 
    Yahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What new single when did it come out etc? What's the story Matty? Ed

Yes, it's the World cup song.  It isn't out yet.  Next week I think, but I'm 
not sure.  matty

    Records bought at the weekend;
    
    They Might Be Giants	-	Birhouse In Your Soul 7"
    Queen Latifa & Del La Soul	-	Mama Gave Birth... 7"
    Madonna			-	Holiday French 7" (diff cover)
    Malcolm Maclaren		-	Deep In Vogue 7" (Cr@p)
    Cabaret Voltaire		-	Keep On 7" (OK)
    My Bloody Valentine		-	Soon/Glider 7" (weird)
    Touch Of Soul		-	We Got The Love 7" (will be
    							    massive)
    The Farm			-	Stepping Stone/Family Of Man (Terry
    					Farley Remix - is the same one as
    					yours Mike?  I don't reckon mush to
    					it)
    
    matty

Matty, tell  me about the CAB VOLT single please...label, release date, what
its like...

Ed

    Ed,  I've only played it half way through so far, but it seems pretty
    OK, not brill, not standard run of the mill stuff either.  The b-side
    is Les' Dub, so I though ah, Les Adams no doubt, but it's mixed by CV
    themsleves.
    
    My copy only cost 50p, so I'll get you a copy if you like.  I'll see
    how much the 12" costs, it'll only be 1 or 2 quid - Trax records in
    Doncaster (also one in York).
    
    I also have a couple of CV tracks on the Salvation soundtrack (it has
    New Order on it).  Don't know if you've heard it, or you have them on
    something else, but there you go.  (BTW Arthur Baker's `Come On' on
    this soundtrack is classic).
    
    
    matty buggin' on out for the weekend.  (I'll get you a copy tommorrow)

Matty if  its  50p it'll cost you more to MAIL! I've got mucho des Cab Volt,
but not the Salvation soundtrack, everyone says that its el cr*ppo.

Ed

    I've got you the single.  I haven't listened to the Salvation
    soundtrack much at all, even the NO stuff, but after the few plays it's
    had it all seems a bit usless, including the CV stuff.  Touched By The
    Hand Of God is good though.  It's a different recording to the single.
    
    
    matty

    Record picked up at the weekend;
    
    Faith No More			-	Epic 7"
    Faith No More			-	From Out Of Nowhere cassingle
    Erasure (Contrast?)			-	Star 7"
    Eric and the Good Good Feeling	-	Hold On 7"
    Marc Almond				-	Desparate Hours 7"
    Mary Coughlan			-	Man Of The World 7"
    Wilson Phillips			-	Hold On 7"
    Kym Mazelle				-	Useless 7"
    Mel And Kim (It got to No 1!)	-	Respectable 12"
    Soft Cell				-	Tainted Love German 12"
    U2					-	Bono Makes The Point Live
    						Promo LP
    
    Manic MC's				-	Mental 7"
    
    If there are any U2 fans out there, there is an LP out in limited
    quantities called `U2 2Date'.  It only contains tracks from previous
    LP's and seems a bit of a rip off at 25quid.
    
    Going home for tea.
    
    
    matty

    Just bought the Madonna LP and the self titled Lone Justice LP

    Got World In Motion yesterday.  It s a pleasant slab of Euro fluff, but
    nothing wonderfull.  But then I hate football.  Has a chantable chorus
    at the end for the fans, if they can stay sober long enough to remember
    what team they are meant to support.  Anyone heard a remix?
    
    Mikef
    
    PS - Mattyb, I'm with you on Maria.  Lots of good pics in the NME a few
    months back.  

    Hi Matty,
    
    Can you recommend the new Madonna LP????
    I mean, I am going to one of her concerts, and I wanna 
    sing along ofcourse!  I like "Vogue", is it the same sort 
    music as that song? Or is it like the "like a prayer" CD???
                      
    What a coincedence, I think there's a song from her at the radio
    right now!!! ('back in business' or so) Is it her.......?
    .......(lots of saxophone in this song!) YEAH YEAH!! It was Madonna,
    and the DJ said that her CD was released a couple of days ago here
    in Holland!   
    
    BTW do you already know when she'll be playing in the UK?????
    
    Have a nice Tea!
    Ilse. 
    

    Hi Ilse,
    
    I can't recommend the LP tro anyone, you'd have to be mentally
    disturbed to like it.  But then I am!
    
    Mike,
    
    How come you got World In Motion.  I tried to get it today in Hot Waxx
    in Warrington and they said tommorrow.  NME says next Monday 28th. 
    What's the b-side?  Is the cover any good?
    
    
    matty

    The b-side is a remix, the cover is ok, a world design using footballs.
    I picked mine up from Woolies(shame)- the only place that had it.
    I'm actualy getting quite fond of it!
    
    Mikef

    Hey Mattyb...Picked up a Promo/Dj only copy of World in Motion, Andy
    Wetherall remix - very good, gets rid of the Rap!!
    
    Is it in the charts?
    
    Mikef

    Hi Mike,
    
    Can you get me one?  (Who am I kidding!)
    
    I ventured into the scene that they call `World Music'.  I attained a
    African shaped picture disc by Jukula called `Scatterings Of Africa'. 
    It came out in '82 so it's not exactly Bhundu Boys, but more Paul Simon
    ish, only it's really good.
    
    Also picked up En Vogue `Hold On' (Had to buy after I saw them dancing
    of TOTP).
    
    Watched videos by the Mission, Fields Of Nephilim and Bon Jovi.  The
    I like the Mission's `sound' but I find them a bit bland.  I don't like
    Soft Rock so I don't like Bon Jovi.  But what I want to know is how
    Fields Of Nephilim got a record deal!
    
    
    matty

        Also picked up En Vogue `Hold On' (Had to buy after I saw them dancing
    of TOTP).

    Sorry Matty, but doesn't this point just illustrate *ALL* that is
    wrong with music today ?
    
    So, you saw some people dancing..... What's it got to do with the
    quality of the synthesised drum machine ? Sorry, I mean the music...
    
    Juju
    xxxx
    

    Juju
    
    I thought the record was OK but I didn't like the rhythm much.  In fact
    I don't like the Soul II Soul type speed much at all, I like the fast
    freak out stuff.  But when they came on TOTP they looked so good dancing
    at that tempo.  I don't know if you understand what I mean, but
    sometimes I just wish I was black!
    
    I wish I could explain.
    
    
    matty

    Shouldn't worry Matty, its all pretty vague really.
    
    BTW - there is a pop quiz being held in the Queens House bar this
    evening for the DMO group. My Other Half is taking apart, so I shall be
    there feeling smug because I know all the answers.  It starts at 7.30,
    if anyone is interested.
    
    Mikef

    All I can say is that it better be over by 9:30 tonight Mikef!
    
    Rich.
    

I've had a copy of the Juluka album for a while now (5 years I think) and it's
great on a summers day driving in the car.

    What reminded me of the Jukula record was a program, can't remember
    what, that showed Johnny Clegg, a white South African who wrote
    `Scatterings...'.  I think the prog might have been Rapido.
    
    BTW.  Bangles have released a remix of `Walk Like An Egyptian' and the
    Greatest Hits LP is soon to follow.  I wish the Bangles hadn't split
    up.  I like 99% of the songs they ever did, and have all the LP's, a
    few picture discs and 12".  And Susannah Hoffs was pretty attractive
    too!
    
    See you all next Thursday.  (Yahoo I hear you cry!)
    
    
    matty

    matty-
    
    I wouldn't want to burst your bubble, but...
    
    My sister went to high school with Suzanna, when she was 
    affectionately know as "Mousy Susie."  (She's about 5' tall.)
    If you look at her picture in the year book, you might change
    your mind. (Sans makeup, pre-nose job.)  She's also pushing 32.
    
    -Vicki
     

    Well...what a miserable weekend.  I had a stinking cold, my flan pastry
    went completely wrong, and I found that I own a single which is No. 1
    in the charts.  Casting my mind back, this may be the first one ever...
    
    I dunno, you stand by a band thru thick and thin, and at the first hint
    of glamour and the big shiny lights, they abandon you.  WIll I ever be
    able to hold up my head again?  Street credability - plughole.
    
    Mikef

    
    My weekend was groovy picked up PWEI and the Charlatans along with
    the best of Talk Talk. Im pretty disappointed with the b-sides of
    the Charlatans but the title track "The only One I know" is cool.
    
    PWEI was Ok, Talk Talk is far too fast not their best stuff really.
    
    The Rock n Roll lifestyle is taking its toll. Bristol Last Thursday
    was good, Saturday at Thames Poly was a real fiasco, Gig cancelled
    then not, Tour van broke down got back to Bas******** at 4am.
    
    Oh well Marquee on Wednesday, should be something to tell my grandkids
    about.
    
    Real funny, Ive just been reading old notes when Im raving abbout
    this flippin'band Papa Brittle, now I'm in them, My oh my what a
    strange world it is.
    
    Rich( Wiv lourdes o brokoleee!)
    

    Rich,   I'll have to go see Papa Brittle when I visit my Dad in B'stoke.
    
    Vicki,  The attractive thing about Susannah Hoffs is her sideways look
    	    and her voice!
    
    Mike,   Ha ha !!!  I've not bought it yet 'cause it's too sickly.  I'm
    	    waiting for the Subbuteo mix though.
    
    I bought some records today and at the weekend;
    
    Debbie Harry	Maybe For Sure 7"
    MC Tunes/808 State	The Only Rhyme That Bites 7"
    Lenny Kravitz	Mr Cab Driver cassingle
    Erasure		Crackers International Pt II 12" (Got it at last!)
    New Order		Blue Order (Megamix) ON-USound DJ 12"
    Northside		Shall We Take A Trip/Moody Places 12"
    
    I like the Charlatans single, but they sound dead like the Stone Roses.
    
    The other day I heard a track by New Fast Automatic Daffodills.  It
    went on for about 10 minutes and was a right stomping instrumental, a
    bit like the end bit `I am The Resurrection' by the Stone Roses.  Does
    anyone know what it's called?  I have to own it!
    
    
    matty

    I Hate You .... I've been looking for the Northside single
    everywhere!!!
    
    I'll find out the name of the NFD track, I have some stuff stashed away
    somewhere...this doesn't mean they are going to be popular does it?
    
    Mikef

    
    Strange! I put a note in and its not here!
    Northside is all over the place Mike, Ive seen it in B'stoke.
    By the way Mike, You're very quiet today, What have i done???
    
    rich
    

    Her sideways look????

    
    Oh Wow, Tonights gonna be the biggest night of my life, I play at
    the Marquee AND I'm gonna meet the Guru! Mikef is coming too but
    he's a boring OLD git that Ive met b4!;^) Offers me coffee on Saturday
    mornings and stuff like that!
    
    Rich.

    Rich, are you the main band or the supporting attraction?
    
    Bob ( who's played the original Marquee oblig smilie )

    If you'd met Rich..you'd see there si no way he could be described as
    an attraction.
    
    Full review, with lots of keyboard player slagging, tomorrow.
    
    Mikef
    
    PS - any opinions on the James lp yet?

    
    Bob
    
    Were supporting a band called The Levellers for the whole tour,
    Its a bit of a mismatch in styles but we're getting on OK and having
    a good time. Anyone else who's interested come along we might as
    well make this a real gathering if we can! Mikef has just checked
    in with me to confirm he's going. Anyway, gotta fly, we're leaving
    soon soundcheck is at 3:00
    
    Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    
    Rich
    

    Wow, a touring musician and holding down a dayjob too. Good luck,
    Rich, I'll try and get there tonight. Possibly see ya there, too
    Mikef.
    
    Bob (four gigs in the last five weeks) Green

    
Re:
.225>Ha ha !!!  I've not bought it yet 'cause it's too sickly.  I'm
.225>waiting for the Subbuteo mix though.
    
    Subbuteo mix is out already.. On the CD single anyway!
    
    
    ..Craig 
          

    RE. A Few back,
    
    You haven't seen Susannah Hoffs sideways look?  You haven't lived, ask
    anyone!
    
    
    matty

    Oh, I forgot,
    
    I just bought `Never Never' 12" marbled vinyl by The Assembly (ie.
    Vince Clarke, Feargal Sharkey and Eric `The Radical' Radcliffe (another
    Mute person).
    
    It's a bit late now, but good luck to Papa Brittle tonight.  Tell us
    how it went.
    
    
    matty

    
    Did anyone tape the film "Paris Texas" on TV last night???  If so, I
    would love to borrow the tape...
    
    TA
    
    Mikef

    
    It went OK last night. I met up with Mike and Stuart. I enjoyed
    myself, I dont know about the others. Got back at 2:30. I'm tired
    today! Mikef can do the official review of it. Did you go Bob.??
    
    2 days off now til Oxford on Sat.
    
    Rich
    

    Rich,
    
    Could you tell us a little about how you got into a band like PB and
    how PB got to play the Marquee.  I'd like to know how it's done (maybe
    it'll help me in my attempt!)
    
    
    matty

    Sorry, Rich, couldn't make it last night. Where are else are you
    playing soon?
    
    Bob

    
    Well gang,this is the long story of how it all happened.
    
    Aug 87: Rich visits Forbury Gardens one Saturday afternoon and sees
    this groovy band playing in the bandstand. Gor lumme he thinks ,
    these chaps are good!
    
    1987-May 1990: Rich watches the band around the area
    
    Autumn 1989: Rich starts to become a groupie. Follows them around
    everywhere, buys the T-shirts etc.. Plucks up couirage to talk to
    the band.
    
    Dec 1989: Rich gets quite friendly with them.
    
    Feb 1989: Rich goes to Thailand. Misses 3 gigs!
    
    Apr 1989: Rich returns from Thailand to find their k/b player has
    left.  PB recruit new K?B player. This doesnt  work out. OH o  Tour
    coming up the band are in trouble. Rich offers to help out. Starts
    to learn songs becomes temporary member for the tour.
    
    May1989: This is it. Nearly at the end of the tour and at the end
    of my stint in PB. Davep K/B player from Still (My full time band)
    takes over soon.
    
    During this time PB recorded their ownsingle and secured a distribution
    deal. Agency gets the gigs to promote the band and take a cut hence
    a support slot on the Levellers tour.
    
    Things are just starting to take off now, The single is distributed
    by APT Cat. No. PB001. So you should all dash out and buy it!
    
    Its tough but good fun and I'm loving every minute of it.
    
    Talk later.
    
    Rich.
    

    Rich, grooving in the area has obviously produced some local time
    distortion.  Get your head together into 1990.
    
    Mikef

    Thanks Rich, but how did you end up playing keyboards.  ie. did you
    learn piano at school, did you fancy being in a band when you were 20,
    or what?  And how did you get the money together?
    
    The reason I ask is 'cause I want to do this, but I'm worried about the
    timescales involved.  I'm 20 now and am progressing at a speed which is
    satisfactory to me, but I still reckon I'm better on K/B but my PSS680
    consumer job just doesn't have the memory to record more than a few
    bars, and therefore isn't very good for writing.  I plan to get a D20
    when I've paid off the guitar (about 3-4 months) and also a
    portastudio, mikes and amps etc.  But by then I'll be 21, then I have
    to write songs, record them and then go for the gigs or whatever,
    depending of course on what sort and the quality of the material I can
    come up with.
    
    How can you do it all quickly?
    
    I appreciate your time.
    
    
    matty

    Hey, calm down! There's plenty of time. Twenty-one isn't old; I'm ten
    years on that, but I'm not drawing a pension yet! As for "insufficient
    memory" to record a song: go buy a four track and have *lots* of fun.
    Just accept what you have: it isn't so bad.
    
    Olde uncle Keef

    Why is age so important? I've always planned to make a record, just for
    the hell of it, but never got round to it. I'll probably do it in the
    next 30 years or so. Look at the Stranglers, they were ancient when
    they started. Look at the Poison Girls.
    
    On second thoughts, better not look at the Poison Girls.
    
    ;-) Dave

    Why I worry about age;
    
    1.. I don't want to be classed as a adult orientated person. (but then
    	look at Neil Tennent - 36)
    
    2..	Ultimate ambition is to make the charts on numourous occasions, and
    	the longer I have to do that the more chance I have.  You all know I
    	like Madonna, and I want her to beat the 17 No1's that the Beatles and
    	Elvis had (each).  But she's running out of time, she's coming up 32. 
    	(Also most of her songs aren't good enough!)
    
    3..	I know there are bands in there that have been round for ages, and
    	that there are people like Aswad who'd been making records for 10 years
   	before they charted.  But just look at the Charlatans, they only set up
    	over a year ago and now they're in the Top 10.
    
    4..	Also at my age I have less responsibility, mortgage etc, and
    	therefore I have more money spare than I will when I get tied down.
    
    Surely the sooner the better.
    
    
    matty

    re.248
    >>	therefore I have more money spare than I will when I get tied down.
       
    Not if you keep buying records at the rate you do! ;-)
    
    >>Surely the sooner the better.
    
    Baloney!
    
    >>But she's running out of time, she's coming up 32. 
  
    Somebody hit that man!!
    
    Sue (32 and proud!!)

    Guy Chadwick - House of Love - is 34, and he has only just started to
    get it together hitwise.
    
    I actually listened to the charts on radio last night.  BIG mistake -
    was that Adamski thing really No 1???  Pleasant, but its amazing what
    dross people will buy.  
    
    As for me, I'm just doing the do!!!
    
    Mikef

    
    Well Saturday was gig of the tour, really good night. We took a
    telly on stage which was a really good idea. Our singer kept stopping
    songs to check on the score etc..Italy scored just before "Heads
    Down" Perhaps the only reason people were at the front was cos they
    wanted to see the telly properly! Anyway, it went off as soon as
    Emelyn came on at the request of the whole band and the audience.
    Got an encore at the end. Got really p***ed. What more could a man
    ask???  (Well perhaps, Austria could of got an equaliser, but not
    much more!)
    
    So thats it, Mybrief stint with PB over, leaving here again on Friday
    for sunnier climes. This time its Ios for 3 weeks, Cant ait, the
    weather is p***-poor this morning.
    
    Rich
    

    Hi Rich,
    
    I got the Papa Brittle 12".  There were some things I didn't like about
    the record, ie. the name of the band, the sleeve, and the title of the
    a-side.  Ignore me if you like, but these things sell records.
    
    As for the music, YEAH!!!  I played it to some mates and they it want
    it taping!  I was expecting some dreary rock music, but I was in for a
    shock.  The Shamen meets Jesus Jones!  What can I say?  What other
    stuff is out?  Is there an LP?
    
    I'll be looking to go to a gig when I get down to Reading next. 
    Hopefully PB will be playing somewhere.
    
    I aslo bought ;
    
    New Order		World In Motion		cassingle
    Erasure		Star			Remix 12"
    Erasure		Star			cassingle
    Various		Select compilation	cassette
    
    The Select Compilation is from a new music mag under the same name.  I
    don't think much to the mag but the cassette was value for money.  46
    minutes of Dusty Springfield, Lilac Time, House Of Love etc.
    
    
    matty

    
    My oh my, We are quiet today!
    
    No new records Matty??
    
    No evil sarcasm Stuart.
    
    No blatant pig ignorance old man Mike??
    
    P.s Hands up who thinks Mikef looks like Black Francis of the Pixies
    
    

    What Pig Ignorance is this????  Now what have I done to upset you???
    
    Mikef
    
    PS - Get The Hummingbirds lp - great songs played on fuzzy guitars,
    availble reasonably cheap.

The only track I've heard by the Hummingbirds was the one on the free tape from
the magazine Select and it's good. All the music papers have been rating their
first album so I was considering to buy it ... in fact I will!

As for the sarcasm, I think I let it all flow out last night writing the PB
review ... I was going to go on and on and on but thought most of it wasn't
about music anyway and then everyone would get upset and start complaining that
this was a music conference and stuff like mine should be done on a personal
basis ... you know the usual dross    ;-)

Anyways the Lev's tape hasn't been out of the old car stereo since Saturday
and it's a winner, the panel have voted it in the top 10 albums that were bought
between 12.00pm and 1.00pm on Thursday the 7th of June. In fact it could well
be number 1, but there is a recount on at the moment.

So whats been going on last week, not much noting (or decent noting), I picked
up "Tasty Dish" , the new Pop Will Eat Itself single (ask an Italian what "tasty
dish" translates to), the Happy Mondays Peel Sessions (another price rip-off!),
and a Spirit album called "Kalaluah Dream" (or summit like that), has a great
track called "Bionic Unit". This must be the band the Mondays copied.

Am i beginnig to sound like MattyB ... this is the huge list of records I bought
while on the way to the laundry, or while waiting at the bus stop, or while 
brushing my teeth .... :-)

Do you know that nobody else buys records cos MattyB has bought them all, in 
fact my local record shop has no records left, he says when they arrive in he
just forwards them on to MattyB c/o DEC, Warrington ... anyway must fly seems
that my adopted country in the World Cup has just come on the TV ....BELGIUM,
come on ye sprouts ... I know this isn't a football conference ...

    yup, 'twas the Select track that persuaded me to get the LP.  That is
    about the only 'droney' track on the lp, but after a few plays, I love
    the album.  It was produced by Mitch Easter (early REM), and in places
    sounds like the dBs (does anyone beside Ed remember that wonderfull
    group?).  Takes a few plays, but worth it.
    
    At least I had the decency to Blush.
    
    Mikef

    
    The Levellers are planning to play the Travellers field at Glastonbury.
    Nothing has been set up but they definitely will be playing over
    the weekend at some point.
    
    I haven't bought any record, I just got a tyre changed at lunchtime.
    Wish I'd bought the Levellers album. 
    
    Been having a great slagging match with Mikef today. Going to PB's
    tonight to pass on some knowledge. Mattyb, If you ring there tonight
    I'll probably be there around about 8:00. Not sure what they're
    planning to do with the Heist tape yet.
    
    PB play Walsall Junction 10 on Sunday night with the Levellers.
    Look out for more gigs, I know they're playing, London ICA, Soto
    Joiners and a few others. Hot news is that there is a gig planned,
    PB with the Levellers sometime soon in Basingstoke.
    
    Rich(Leaving again on Friday)

    I have been reading this file, but it's the World Cup init?  Gotta keep
    up to date with Balzac::footbal.  And it's the start of the fishing
    season.  BTW I don't tell them about all the records I buy, or all the
    footballs I kick, or all the fish I catch (or the ones that got away).
    Anyway, I don't buy many records anymore.  It's only about 5-8 per week
    and most of those are 7" or 12".
    
    Hmm.  The Papa B B'stoke gig sounds interesting.  I'm gunna have to
    take a trip down to see my Dad.
    
    
    matty (It's a little `m' and no `b'!!!)

    
    
    And why does the NME give away a decent poster, but folds it so that
    there is a huge white line across the middle of it?   Grr, Gnnash, etc.
    
    sorry chaps, I'll have some coffee in a minute and calm down. 
    Actually, I'm thinking of cutting down the amount I drink.  I'll try
    and make today a '4-cup' day.
    
    But I'll still keep the marmite butties at lunchtime.
    
    errrr...Wednesdayitis...
    
    Mikef (with an 'f')

    
    Nothing confirmed for B'stoke but PB plat Reading St. Andrews the
    week after Glastonbury some time.
    
    Got the Levellers album last night, I lkie it but it doesn't touch
    the sound that they achieve live, nowhere near as powerful.
    
    Rich
    

    
    Oh no! Ive just OD'd on Marmite, Ive had 6 slices this morning,
    and I'm not feeling too hot. Theres definitely some truth in the
    phrase "having too much of a good thing!"
    
    Rich
    
    P.S Mikef and I have a date tonight!!
    

    New Order have a remix 12" out this week, 4 tracks, one of which is the
    Andy Wetherall 'call the carabinieri' mix of World In Motion.
    
    Mikef
    
    PS.  Rich - about this date...I've run out of vaseline, but I still
    have a jar of marmite - will that do?

    I dont think you'll need to bother, what with the amount of the
    stuff that I've got in my system already today.:-)
    
    

    Please continue this conversation is note VASLNE::GUY_TALK
    
    ;-)

    Do we have to apply to you to become a member of that?
    
    ;-) ;-)
    
    Mikef

    
    The freebie gig seems to be going ahead in London, but only featuring
    the Cure and the Mission.  It is happening on August 24...the saturday
    of the reading Fest...decisions decisions..
    
    Mikef

    No, but when you go on that date don't forget to apply something to
    your member!!
    
    ;-)

    You lot are sick!
    
    Just bought the NO remix.  It contains the subbuteo mix, the subbuteo
    dub, and Andy Weatherall's and Terry Farley's carabinieri and no all
    violenza mixes.  I've not heard it yet, but it's got a nice cover.
    
    
    matty

    I'm really fed up. All my records are in Kent, apart from a brief visit
    the other week I haven't been near them since January. Anybody want to
    buy a house in Kent?
    
    Dave

The Wonderstuff release "Eleven Appalling Promos" video at only 9.99.

    
    Right its the moment you've all been waiting for, Its Rich's guide
    to instant success in the rock world playing keyboards.
    
     Lets face it kids, Keyboards aren't exactly the grooviest things
     in the world to pose with. In fact, they're crap. I mean you cant
     exactly alter the modulation and pitch bend on your DX7 when you're
     tearing across the stage with it slung round your neck.It just isnt
     practical. For the most part you'll find those little cherubs of
     technology perched on a dodgy aluminium stand tucked away right
     in the tiniest corner of the stage behind an egotistical guitar
     player. Not funny, esp.when they get a bit carried away knocking all
     your equipment  over during the climax of thir funky wah guitar break.
     I mean its OK if you're a regular of Wembley Arena and the like when
     you've got your hydraulic riser sending you out across the screaming
     masses but in the main at places like the Cellar Bar at Thames Poly it
     doesn't tend to happen(If you've been there you'll know what I mean)
     So after all that in your corner, k/b's become frankly dull. You
     just have to find other things to amuse yourself and attract attention
     to yourself, Its all about stage presence right kids!(Insert cheeky
     smile & thumbs up!)
    
    A guide:
    
    1 Try to spend as little time as possible behind your instrument.
    The master of this ploy has got to be the keyboard player in Jesus
    Jones, you wont find him pussyfooting around behind his Casio if
    he hasn't got to play for anopther 2 secs. No siree! Hes got a wardrobe
    to parade. Try and perfect getting back behind your k/b just a little
    bit too late for that really pro touch.
    
    2 Keyboards must always be turned up as loud as possible, we dont
    want to get lost behind the dirge of guitars and drums do we??;^)
    
    3 Stay away from the black keys unless you're playing a house piano
    bit in which case they're the only ones you should use. They also
    get quite difficult to spot in the darkness of your little corner.
    I find it helpful to wear a pot holers helmet with a 500w bulb
    in it so I can see what I'm doing. The boots also will come in handy
    for climbing the riser when you do get to Wembley.
    
    4 Make sure you're the last person to finish the song just to let
    everyone know you are actually playing
    
    5 Annoy the rest of the band by playing tiddley-dee keyboard lines
    with Trumpton style keyboard sounds during the soundcheck.
    
    6 In the soundcheck always complain about " too much top in the
    monitor, etc,etc," Us keyboard players have a reputation of being
    the ultimate in prima donnas in bands you know!
    
    7 Going on from no 6. Form a pact with the lead singer, where something
    dreadfully important comes up whenever something needs lifting.
    
    Anyway, thats it for now, go out, find a band, and P*** them off
    while having a great time y'self. Easy.
    
    Rich Michel-Jarre
     

    Har Har!!  or ha ha ha even.
    
    I reckon you should play guitar and keyboards at the sam time.  Get the
    guitar hung low, set the sequencer off, run across the stage with the
    guiatr sooo fuzzy that you don't need to change chords, and iff you did
    no one would notice.  Run back along the stage and slide up to the
    keyboard and headbut the keys (ala Guru Josh).  Sometimes I wish I was
    born an octopus.
    
    The problem I find with keyboards is the the stands rock all over the
    place when you freak out/express yourself (hey hey), and you tend to
    miss the keys.  I find this to be agreat excuse!
    
    Just sent someone to town for the Charlatans 12".  Are there any
    other formats apart from the 7" and 12"?
    
    
    matty

    Oh the New Order remix 12" is great.  Hate the single, love these 4
    remixes.  Cabineiri (sp) and No Alla Violenzo mixes are best.  Forgive
    my Italian (forgive my English)

Richie, great guide. I'm practising with my terminal keyboard right now.

.274 Mr Format,

Surely you should know by now all the formats for singles:


The Carrot Format - this is the one that's dangled in front of record buying 
public so that another sale will be notched up.

The Release a new Remix Format: this usually comes out when it drops 5 places
in the chart ratings.

The Some Fool Out Their Will Part With Their Money Format: This one usually 
features a cover version that they only play at their gigs.

The Free Postcard and 2 Badges Format: self explanatory!

The Different Cover with a Picture of Each Member of the band Format: a real
fave with Generation X

The Limited Edition Format: this one usually has a number in the corner.

The get some old crooner from the sixties to sing along with it Format: this
one feature some one-hit wonder from the sixties.

The Now we are Famous let's RE-Release our Back Catalogue Format:  we need some
more money for drugs!


These are just some of the formats of singles I picked up ... I'm sure Richie,
MikeF, and Ed will go on and milk the joke dry ... ;-)

The Guru.

    
    How about the Cock-up Format: The idea being to accidentally-on-purpose
    put a Jason Donovan song on the b-side, to make the record a hilarious
    selling point and send the value soaring into space.
    
    Rich( Farewell for the 5th time!)
    

    Or the lets release 3 versions of the single, each with different
    tracks on the B side, some idiots are bound to buy all 3.  (Robert
    Smith and Guy Chadwick, are you listening...)
    
    Mikef
    

    How about the Mattb format: Its a double album with 15 versions
    of the same song on it!
    
    Rich
    

    Rich, you mean the US 12"!  (anybody you gets US 12"s will know what I
    mean)
    
    Just sent someonw else to town for A Guy Called Gerald's LP and the
    Betty Boo 12" (It's not for me!)
    
    
    matty

  Re -1>  Just sent someonw else to town
    
     Do you have slaves working for you Matty?  ;-)

    re -1.   They are actually record company reps!!  The record companies
    make so much money out of Matty that they assign people to fetch him
    anything he wants.
    
    Mikef
    
    ps - Matty, we don't believe you about Betty Boo!
    
    pps- actually, the backing track to Betty Boo isn't too bad.  I'm sure
    that if it was being done by a bunch of black american rap artists, it
    would be very hip.
    
    ppps - i miss the b.

    
    I'm off to Ios for 3 weeks, returning to work 10th July. See you
    all then.
    
    Rich Wakeman;^)

Dare I tell Matty about this...
There's a Record Fair in Manchester tomorrow - 90 stalls so it's quite a biggie. 
It's at the New Century Hall (near CIS Building). 

    90 Stalls - an hours work for our Matty (vinyl hoover).
    
    Mikef

    I ain't goin' to Manc tommorra 'cause it's me bro's birthd'y an t'start
    o' fishing season.  Gunna catch me a whale!
    
    I like the Betty Boo track at first but I'm sick to the teeth with it. 
    Did you see her on TOTP?  (NO! I hear you scream, WE DON'T WATCH
    TOTP!).  I'm actually buying it for someone in the US, ie a record
    swap.  Also the Gerald LP, but I'm gunna tape that first.
    
    Can anyone remember the Beastmasters feat. Betty Boo `Hey DJ, I Can't
    Dance To The Music You're Playing'???  Now that WAS good - still sounds
    fresh today!
    
    Gotta go and catch my train to sunny Donny.  Have a `nice' weekend!
    
    
    matty

    I picked up the new Bob ep, Stride Up, yesterday. It's a little
    corker, containing four tracks including a version of Rain, which
    is/was the Fab Four's best ever B-side, IMHO.
    
    Love that singer's voice!
    
    Bob

    I don't suppose anyone is going to the Town and Country Club for
    They Might Be Giants tonight??
    
    Bob (making a return visit after last night)

    I bought absoloutely no records whatsoever this weekend.

And you wouldn't have bought anything at the Record Fair on Saturday...
it was a waste of time

    Has anyone got `She Comes In The Fall' 12"?  Is the remix any good? 
    Also can someone keep us posted if any limted editions/other formats
    are released.
    
    Thanks
    
    
    matty

    >> I bought absoloutely no records whatsoever this weekend.
    
    But did you catch any fish?
    
    Dave

>                         -< Ann Glynn thinks she's cracked it >-
 
    No relation, I might add.

    I've found a newsagents on the way to work that sells ex-chart records
    for 95 p.  So I'll be buying loads of the House records that made it.
    
    And yes I did catch some fish, but you should have seen the one that
    got away!
    
    
    matty

	Remember that crap telly programme "Fantasy Island"? I need to know
	the name of the little bloke with the silly voice 'cos my mates got a
	bet on with someone at work.

	Hope someone knows, and if you do come forward and dont be embarrassed.

	Ian.

Yeh the fellah who says "Eats a plane, eats a plane". What is his name ??

That PORG (ant Tom Sharpe readers out there) who was also in the James Bond 
movie ... someone look at my tongue cos it's on the tip of it ... character name 
was Tatoo (maybe!)

    err...Henry something...maybe...surname began with a..'V', or
    'G'...Bond Movie - Man wiv the golden gun...
    
    Mikef (maybe)

	'Tatoo' is what the a bloke at my mates work came up with but nobodies
	sure so the quest goes on. 

	Who can stand up and confidently state "The short geezer on the duff
	TV programmes was 'MR X'"?

	Ian.

	Have you got the name of his character in "Fantasy Island"?

	Ta,
	Ian.

    Well, all I can tell you is that in the French version he was also 
    called Tatoo.
    
    Christophe.

	Tatoo it is then. Cheers gang. At least I'll be able to impress them
	with the Herve Villachaize bit.

	Ian.

    Picked up Pet Shop Boy's `Please' at the weekend.  It's actually my
    second copy, so I know all the tracks.
    
    I'd like to say what a great LP it is!
    
    
    matty

    I bought the following;
    
    Stone Roses `One Love' cassingle, 7"postcard pack, 12" with print
    The High - I can't remember the song
    Saint Etienne - `Only Love Can Break Your Heart"
    Inspiral Carpets - `She Comes In The Fall' gatefold remix 12"
    James - Come Home
    
    It's amazing init?  James remixed by Flood, Inspirals mixed by Daniell
    Miller.  These people mix Erasure records!!!
    
    
    matty

    Just bought Hanky Panky 7" and Don't Miss The Partyline 7".
    
    
    matty

    
    Just bought a pint of best and a bottle of Holsten Pils.
    
    Rich
    
    P.S I'm back again.

    Hi Rich,
    
    Hope you had a really good holiday.
    
    I'm coming down to Reading tommorrow night until Sunday 22nd, ie 9
    days!  Any PB gigs to go to?  I wanna go see them!
    
    
    matty
    
    ps.  I don't know how you can drink Holsten Pils, it's cat's pi$$! 
    Horrible fizzy stuff!  Dark brown and smooth for me.

    I can't remember what catzpi$$ tastes like.  I stopped drinking the
    Auzzie stuff when I was 16.  That keg stuff that they try to pass off
    as bitter does me in too.

    
    Mr Maddy fan,
    
    I am NOT a Holsten Pils drinker. I bought that for Ian(guitarist
    in PB) who incidentally play Coventry tonight but there are no gigs
    lined up in the local area for a while.
    
    Holiday was damn groovy. Stuart, Ed and Mike have all the gory details
    which are not really fit to be posted here.
    
    Talk later
    
    Rich

    In the past week, I've added the following CDs to my collection
    (and I wonder why I'm struggling to save enough dot-dash for a coupla
    weeks in the sun!) :-
    
    David Bowie................................ZIGGY STARDUST (Yay!!!)
    Oleta Adams................................CIRCLE OF ONE
    Michelle Shocked...........................SHORT SHARP SHOCKED
    Wonder Stuff...............................EIGHT LEGGED GROOVE MACHINE
    Inspiral Carpets...........................COOL AS **** e.p.
    Van Morrison...............................ST. DOMINIC'S PREVIEW
    Lou Reed/John Cale.........................SONGS FOR DRELLA
    Depeche Mode...............................ENJOY THE SILENCE e.p.(Hi Mick!)
    They Might Be Giants.......................LINCOLN (Yo Bob!)
    The Chills.................................SUBMARINE BELLS (Check Bud!
    Frank Sinatra..............................SONGS FOR YOUNG LOVERS
    Various Artists............................THE BLUES COLLECTION
    Iggy Pop...................................THE IDIOT
    Iggy Pop...................................LUST FOR LIFE
    
    And before anyone asks ... yes, I listen to music a *lot*!!    

    Looks like you could have competition matty!
    
    

    He can have all the CD's I I'll have the vinyl!
    
    Is the Inspirals EP any good.  I've seen it around for #7.99 (vinyl)
    but I havn't bought due to cost and becasue I find the group to be
    inconsistent.  Some songs are great, some aren't (I have the LP and a
    few 12").
    
    See you all on Monday 23rd (unless they let me into Winnersh without a
    badge)
    
    
    matty

    Matty,
    
    give us a call on 4344 and I'll see you right for the badge.
    
    Paul

    
    Rave of the day: Five-Thirty
    
    I first heard this band on the last chapter of my travels. I met
    this guy from Southampton who'd seen them and managed to blag a
    T-shirt and a demo featuring about a whole tapes material
    It was very impressive. Sort of hard thrashy wah guitar, melodic
    vocals and elements of Funk("You're bound to like it then"-Mike,Ed,
    Mr anti-social). I come back and what do I find. They've got a major
    deal.(Warner Bros I think) and a single out. Don't know what its
    called though. Just wondered if anyone else had heard them. If not
    its definitely worth shelling out for the single(after you've bought
    Papa Brittle of course)
    
    Rich. 
    

    I'd just like to say that on the cover of this weeks NME is a photo of
    Black Francis, and that I look nothing like him.  Thanks
    
    
    Mikef

    
    You do ask for it dont you! You are the spit of Black Francis. "F******
    hell", I cried,"What's my old mate Mike doing on the cover of NME?"
    I thought he was trying to keep his C + W project underground for
    the moment!                                               
    
    Whens the album out Mike?
    
    Rich.
    

    I'm back.
    
    I didn't get to see anyone, and I wish I had.  Next time I'll come down
    for 3 months, but I'm not going anywhere near Basingstoke!
    
    
    matty
    
    now where's that Madonna topic?

    Hi!
    
    I went to Madonna last night, and I think she's absolutely
    GREAT! What a show! She is defenitely a perfectionist!
    I enjoyed every minute of it!
    
    But I'm curious what you (as a "real" fan of her) can tell us
    all about the concert(s) you've seen!?
      
    Cheers,
    Ilse.
    

    I did buy some records on Holiday.  For those who don't know the Record
    Basment in Reading has moved to opposite the Railway Station.  It's a
    pretty good shops if you're into Soul, or the less than 100 BPM stuff. 
    Jan, he even has DMC hard record/cassette cases.
    
    Anyway;
    
    Adult Net			Walking Up In The Sun	12"PS
    Adult Net			Where Were You		12"PS
    Erica Holland		I Don't Believe		12"PS
    Faith, Hope & Charity      	Battle Of The Sexes	12"PS with stickers
    Tic				Popcorn '88		12"PS
    (they were all 25p each!)
    Dee C Lee			See The Day		7"
    Edelweiss			Bring Me Edelweiss	7"PS
    Madonna			Hanky Panky 	      Cassingle, CD, 12"Pic Disc
    
    
    That's all.
    
    
    matty

    Lovely quote by Derek May (who does May Day remixes for various House
    Types) :
    
    `All British DJ's are shit!'
    
    He said that at New York's New Music Seminar after Keith `my name is
    John Barnes' Allen gave a speech on the Manchester scene called `Wake
    Up America, you're dead'!!!
    
    
    matty

    Bye Rich, have a nice life!
    
    Jan, I'll type in some more about that speech at dinner time (3 hours).
    
    I bought some records at the weekend from Warp records in Sheffield, a
    great shop near a great pub, The Frog And Parrot, which does the
    strongest beer in the world!  I also went to record fairs at the
    Students Union in Sheff and a hotel in Doncaster.
    
    Orchestral Manouvours (sp) In The Dark	OMD LP
    90 (signed copy)				808 State LP
    Like A Virgin (without Into The Groove)	Madonna LP
    Nothing (promo)				Frazier Chorus 12"
    So Young/Tell Me				Stone Roses 7"
    You Keep Me Hanging On			Kim Wilde 7"
    Kids In America				Kim Wilde 7"
    I Wish					Ben Liebrand 7"
    Everything					Kicking Back 7"
    Absolute					Claudia Brucken 7"
    
    
    An eventful weekend!

    
    Can you tell me what this So Young/Tell Me by the Stone Roses is as
    I've never heard of it and I thought I had all they had released except
    for the really early rare stuff from 86-87ish, is this one of these.  When
    was it released?, what's it like?, was it expensive? Information
    please.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Tim
    ---
    

    It was their 1st single, ie the one before `Sally Cinnamon'.  It was
    supposed to be available on 12" only, which now sells for about #85!!!
    (no fingertrouble, that's the real price)
    
    Anyway, their was the 7" at this record fair for #12, and it looked
    genuine, same catalogue number and everything (THIN001), copywright
    dated 1985, production by Martin Hammnet etc, good quality sleeve, and
    as it turned out, good quality sound.  On the way home from the fair I
    was dreading it being a crap quality bootleg.  Copywright date in 1985,
    production by Martin Hammnet etc.
    
    The songs themselves aren't very good, though I've found myself humming
    `Page after page after page' a few times since I bought it.  But you
    sure can tell who it is with lyrics like `I love only me', and `I am a
    garage flower' (Inspirals named a song after that line).
    
    I might be that the record company had re-released it as a 7" to cash
    in on their success, in which case I got ripped off and you should be
    able to pick them up for a fiver, though I've never seen, or heard of
    any others, apart from a Japanese 7" at around #20.
    
    There were also plenty of live bootleg albums at the fairs, about #12 a
    time.
    
         
    matty

    Loads of fingertrouble on that last reply.  I'm getting old, so I'll
    start proof reading before I press CTRL Z.

    Really enjoyed the play on TV last night - Wreckon the Highway, about a
    failed Country singer.
    Who mentioned Clare Grogan?  C'mon hands up!!
    
    Mikef
    
    (who sat with his video on record pause just to get Clares bits)
    (fnarr fnarr)

    The night before last ther was a film on CH4 called `Daddy'.  At the
    High School Prom (why don't they have those in this country?) they had
    Adult Net playing `Waking Up In The Sun'.  Great song.
    
    For those of you who don't know, the singer from Adult Net is Brix
    Smith, who was/is married to Mark E Smith from the Fall, but is know
    going out with Nigel Kennedy.  Like Neighbours or what!
    
    
    
    matty

    Mike,
    
    I didn't get to see the Paris Angels.  We went to a pub nearby and got
    tanked up on the beer.  Then about half an hour before they were due on
    we went down to the Leadmill, but there was no one there!  The support
    band `World Of Twist' were doing their soundcheck, but my mate got
    really bored so we went to a nightclub instead.  Hopefully I can
    convince him to come and see the High next Saturday.
    
    No records bought.  The Charts!!!  4 underground dance hits, ie. KLF,
    LFO, Tricky Disco & Hardcore Uproar all in the top 40!
    
    
    matty

    LFO - friends of Bruce!!!
    
    not heard the KLF yet.  Just got the new Primal Scream.  The snippet
    I heard in the shop sounded great.
    
    First time back in B'stoke since early March.  Both Our Prces are now
    70% CD.  The cutbacks are mainly in the 'minority' musics, such as
    Jazz.  Bit sickened by this, to be honest.
    
    Mikef

    
    Damn, I knew there was another record I had to get at lunchtime, I
    forgot Come Together by Primal Scream, oh well another trip into Reading
    tommorrow, but I did buy Glider and Isn't Anything by My Bloody
    Valentine and Indie Top 20 vol 327 or something, looks quite good.
    Looking foward to getting home to play them now.
    
    On the record shop front, why do companies feel it necessary to have
    more than one or two stores in one town.  We've got three Our Prices
    and three HMVs all in a couple of minutes walking distance, not to
    mention a WH Smiths which own Our Price anyway.  Give me an independent
    record shop anyday.
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    Awight Tim, how's it going, remember me?
    
    Paul

    HELP!
    
    There's a discussion going on about the US versus the UK music
    industries (in POBOX::DJ `Why be so elitist') and why the Aerican music
    scene isn't yet into the joys of Madchester, or Primal Scream even.  I
    need some help to explain what goes on at Radio 1 etc, and me being
    young, ignorant and stupid isn't explaining things too well.
    
    RE-2 or 3 (Mike)
    
    I reckon if Bruce knows LFO then LFO must be either Magda, The Band Of
    Holy Joy or Tim Booth wearing sunglasses.
    
    
    me

> re. Note 611.334 by IGETIT::BROWNM "Teenage Mutant Ninja Y-Fronts"

	Matty, you must own shares in Radio 1. I can't see any other
	reason for always giving them a plug. Around 85% of the time
	I tune in to R1, if they aren't playing hits from the 60s and
	70s, they are playing 80s top 20 stuff. I must admit, out of
	prime time they play some 'different' music. 	LOCAL radio,
	however, seem to play far more in the way of 'non-hit-making'
	material...or does it depend on when you tune in ?!

		P1
	

    re .335 - interesting.  I always found local Rad more conservative even
    that Radio1, the daytime shows seemed to be for those who found Radio 2
    too dangerous.  I did once find an 'indie' show on 210 in Reading, but
    that seemed very tame compared to Peelie.  maybe there is something
    more interesting if you know where to look for it.?
    
    Mikef
									

    I only listen to the top 40 for 2 hours on a Sunday.  I'm interested in
    the chart for 3 reasons;
    
    1	I like technical things, such as chart placing, stats etc.
    2	I like to keep an eye on what's out, what's new, and the chart is a
    	good summary of what is going on.
    3	I want Madonna, or someone else I like to have more No1's than
    	either the Beatles or Elvis' 17 because I am sick of people saying
    	how good the 60's were and I want someone from MY era to prove that
    	today is just as good.
    
    Actually I am listening to Picadilly Key 103, the Stu Allen show from 8
    while 10 (plug plug).  I tape it in the evening and listen to it to and
    from work.  He plays all sorts of dance music, plenty of underground
    white label stuff that will never make the shops, but some of it is
    really good, albeit under produced.  You can imagine some of the
    artists being 17 years old and owning just a porta keyboard and an
    Atari ST!  
    
    Anyone else listen to him?
    
    
    matty

>        1	I like technical things, such as chart placing, stats etc.
 
    Oy Matty, if you like stats so much would you like to go on this
    stats course tomorrow in place of me and mikef?
    
    Paul

    Re.611.337
    >2 I like to keep an eye on what's out, what's new, and the chart is a
    good summary of what is going on.
    
    Isn't the chart more an indication of what people are buying rather
    than what's new, it can take along time for a record to reach the chart
    unless it's by a big artist and then you can't really fail to notice
    that they've got a new record out i.e. its on radio playlists from day
    one.  The music press is a better source for finding out what's out and
    new I find.
    
    >3 I want Madonna or someone else I like to have more No.1's.... 
    
    It will be a considerable achievement if anyone does match the Beatles
    or Elvis basically because there's so much more competition around
    nowadays, so many different styles of music and so many more bands.  If
    anyone is going to do it then it's likely to be a solo artist as they
    can't split up over "musical differences" Ha Ha.  How many No. 1's has
    Madonna had so far?
    
    Tim
    ---

    re-1
    
    I can't do that copy-from-another-note-business but I meant by watching
    the charts I can keep an eye on how the mainstream is changing.  I find
    it amazing that House music has had such an influence on pop music. 
    The charts have come a long way since `Jack Your Body' got to No1
    without any play from radio 1.  Now we have Gary Davies playing the
    Happy Mondays, The Shamen, etc.  It's great!
    
    Madonna's had 7 No1's over here and 8 in the US.  But either she or her
    record company want kicking.  They release the singles after the LP,
    she doesn't promote them over here (except for this recent run in the
    park business) and then they leave the best tracks on the LP!
    
    I don't think she'll beat the others, because as you say the market is
    much more competitive, but also because she spends too much time on her
    films and because she is getting older all the time.
    
    Did you know that all Kylie's (spit spit) have gone Top 4?
    
    
    matty 

    re .337  Stu Allens show..
    
    The only show I know localy (Manchester) that plays new
    release/promo/import stuff thus enabling me to go out and buy a promo
    having listened to it first (no more guess work)
    He sections off his show into Soul, House and Hip-Hop (no Indie
    crap...Sorry guys ;-]) and plays lots of local bands giving them a
    chance..
    
    Its a shame (or mabie not) that its only available in Manchester..
    
    ..Craig
    
    
    P.S.  You would be suprised (or mabie not), what can be done with a
    porta keyboard, a Atari ST and a 17 year old !  8)

    Re 611.340
    No I can't do that copy from another note stuff either, I just re-typed
    it so people knew what I was talking about.
    
    Just bought Primal Scream, they're a load of bandwagon jumpers like the
    Soup Dragons but I must admit I like their records.
    
    Tim
    ---

    re last.
    
    Ahh, this takes me back....
    
    1967.... Herman's Hermits and the Four Seasons go Psychedelic.
    
    1971.... Love Affair and Sandie Shaw go Progressive.
    
    1974.... King Crimson go Glam.
    
    1977.... The Tremeloes say 'Of course, we've always been punks really'.
    
    etc, etc.
    
    The point I'm making is that nearly everyone who is hungry for chart
    success will jump on the latest bandwagon, often under pressure from
    record companies. There are just so few originators, especially those
    who can combine originality with commerciality.
    
    Bob  

>    < Note 611.342 by CHEFS::PRICET "Missing College life like...." >
>                             -< Bandwagon Jumpers >-
 
    Oy Tim, don't you think the Soup Dragons have been about for a bit
    long to be jumping bandwagons?
    
    Paul

    Last time I heard 'em they were a kind of shambling C86 band. I was a
    bit surprised by their latest, but I must admit to a liking for it.
    
    Bob

    Maybe some of these 'bandwagon jumpers' genuinely like the sounds they
    are attracted too, and actually rather than doing it for cash reasons. 
    i think PS falls into this category, even tho I hate Bobby Gillespie.
    
    Mikef (who told him so)

    Re. 611.34
    
    Yes Paul, the Soup Dragons have been around for a long time its just
    that they seem to change their music to whatever is the in thing at the
    time.  I saw them last November and they were very thrashy as were
    Primal Scream at the time and they were sighting the Stooges and MC5 as
    influences, this was a big change from their previous C86 style.  Now
    dance music is in they've changed again and changed their quoted
    influences.  I think it's good that such bands move on to new styles but
    claiming that they've always been into this sort of music to gain
    credibility annoys me, they don't need to do it,  but I do like the
    records they're making at the moment.
    
    Tim
    ---
    
    moment 

    You're right, Mike - some people will undergo a certain 'change of
    direction' during their career, while others will plough their own
    furrow regardless of what's happening around them.
    
    Bob

    Obviously some of these people are bandwagon jumpers, but some (lots)
    must like the music.  If it weren't for guitar types going to the Hac,
    none of this crossover business would have happened.
    
    matty

    Just bought;
    
    Betty Boo	  -	Where are you baby?	7" (v.v.catchy indeed)
    DNA		  -	Tom's Diner		7" (ditto)
    Soup Dragons  -	I'm Free		7" (to do what i want!)
    Hardcore	  -	Together		7" (everybody scream ACID)
    Uproar
    
    My mind is split.  Should I go see 808 State in my hometown, with my
    best mates, brother, sister etc for 8.50, or should I go to the Reading
    Festival - I just bought some Bob Dylan songbooks so I get treated as
    one of the crowd!
    
    
    matty

    heaard the 808 state Mancester Olympic thingy last night, sounded quite
    good.  I heard they get tedious live tho..
    
    get together some mates and beer and head fro Reading.  We are
    definitely going *ie my So got the tickets yesterday, since I had been
    dithering for months.
    
    Cure this saturday, gonna face the London traffic!!!  If I'm not around
    next monday, I'm probably lost in London!!
    
    Errrr...just forgot to go to the pub and claim my pint from GLYNNP. 
    serious problems.
    
    Mikef

>        Errrr...just forgot to go to the pub and claim my pint from GLYNNP. 
>    serious problems.
 
    CLAIM! CLAIM!  What was the stake that you laid on the bet again?
    
    Looking forward to the ten pints that you have to buy me ;-)
    
    Paul

    re Reading Festival
    
    A festival has got to be better than a one band concert who you can see
    another time.  Head south to sunny Reading (well it is sunny at the
    moment even if it rained all weekend at last years festival), its the
    only time Reading gets remotely interesting, I know I've lived here to
    many years to remember.
    
    Tim
    ---
    

    Its always interesting in my flat!!
    
    Mikef

    
    Yeah, yeah Mike, interesting for you but what about everyone else
    '-)

    Paul are you going to buy those pints or not???
    
    Paul

    808 State would be supported by MC Tunes (absoulutely bonker mad-dog
    nutter) and K-Klass who have posters plastered everywhere up here and
    are supposed to be pretty good.
    
    But MC Tunes and the Ruthless Rap Assasins are coming to Warrington
    Parr Hall shorthly after.  And then in November the Beautiful South -
    Yeeehaaa!
    
    
    matty
    
    good night

    good on ya mattyB!!!  ooppss...slipped in a B there.
    
    I got to meet Paul'I drink beer me'Glynn and also
     Paul'late night taxi'Amann.  What a course!!
    
    anyone else heard this Olympic 808bthingy?
    
    Mikef

> re. Note 611.358 by SHAPES::FIDDLERM
>    
>    I got to meet Paul'I drink beer me'Glynn and also
>     Paul'late night taxi'Amann.  What a course!!
    
	Nothing to brag about, Mike. Most people would go out of their
	way to cover up the fact !!!!

		p1

    Ok so I was on the same course, I met Mike 'What's 20/20' Fiddler on
    the course too!
    
    Paul

    No I haven't heard anything about the 808 State Olimpic bid thingy.
    
    Have you heard Deee Lite's `Groovers in the heart'??? it's going Top5
    no doubt.  Anybody want to bet me that the Betty Boo single doesn't get
    into the Top3???
    
    Paul Glynn, a certain person with the initials AM cannot praise you
    enough - "saved by hours, just by typing a couple of lines".
    
    
    matty

    
    re .359
    
    Seeing as you've never met me P1, I don't know how you'd have any
    idea.
    
    Hugs,
    
    Paul

> re. Note 611.362 by PEKING::GLYNNP "I know you, you're Paul Glynn"
>    
>    Seeing as you've never met me P1, I don't know how you'd have any
>    idea.

	'Fraid you must have a very bad memory then....

    
    Either that or I was incredibly drunk.  Which is unlikely coz I
    never get dronk.
    
    But no, you're right, I don't remember meeting you.  Perhaps you
    can enlighten me.    
    
    Paul

    I thnk I can recall seeing the pair of you down QHB last year sometime,
    during one of the highly infrequent visitations of PG to the QHB.
    
    
    Paul

    I bought;
    
    Primal Scream			Come Together 12" (pretty naff I
    					thought, especially compared to Loaded)
    
    New Fast Automatic Daffodils	Music Is Ship EP 12" (If you play
    					NFAD's at 33 it sounds like the Happy
    					Mondays!)
    
    Deee - Lite				Groove Is In The Heart 12" (will go
    					to Number 1!!!!)
    
    Joy Division			Love Will Tear Us Apart 7"
    
    New Order				Temptation 7" (if you play this at
    					45 it sounds like Sigue Sigue Sputnik)
    
    New Order				Shellshock 7"
    
    Lindy Layton			Silly Games Cassingle
    
    Sindecut				Live for Life 7" (very naff)
    
    
    matty

    
    I've just been to the new HMV "Superstore" in Reading, good selection
    but boring really just like all the major chain shops.  Give me an
    independent shop with some enthusiasm anyday.
    
    I think I've just been through a time warp, I've just heard some of the
    new Human League stuff and I could have sworn it was 1981 again.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Jan: HMV = "His Master's Voice"

    OK Keith, real question for you, What was/is the name of the HMV
    dog?
    
    Paul

    Don't tell him...he just wants to enter the competition on the HMV
    leaflet!!!
    
    Mikef

    Rats, I know this one, because they just chose a new dog which
    coincidentally has the same name.
    
    Bob

    Mike - anyone every mention your resemblance to a foghorn?
    
    Paul ;'}

    arf arf... who's a bit grumpy then???  I'll tell you the answer on
    Wednesday, for suitable reward.
    
    Mikef.
    
    PS - Matty, up in Wolverhampton this weekend, a couple of shops had
    very large Madonna import 12" sections.  Is this happening Nationwide? 
    I've never seen so many Madonna records. Also, there was a good sale in
    the WH Smiths there, don't know if that is happening anywhere else, but
    worth checking if it is.

    Mike,
    Madonna imports everywhere.  They're pretty common everywhere.  Anyway,
    what you doin' looking in the Madonna section?????
    
    In Record Mirror there is a feature on the growing Northern Techno
    scene, Tricky Disco, LFO, Hardcore Uproar, Warp records etc.  I think
    this might be the next big thing - a techno invasion of the charts,
    blips eveywhere, beep beep beep, Kraftwerk meets Inner City up Kevin
    Saunderson's bum!  I'll have teo get a transfer to Leeds, or set up a
    logistics in Sheffield.
    
    
    
    matty `no records this week' brown

    All my possessions made it to Ireland at last.. which means I can bore
    everybody with reviews of records I've bought since February but have
    been unable to play.
    
    Dave

    I Just heard Adamski's new single.  It's a version of Elvis' `All Shook
    Up'!!!  I onlt heard a snippet though.
    
    
    matty

    Oh, it's *him*, is it? I've heard it a couple of times in passing and
    wondered what was happening.
    
    Bob

    There's more about the Northern Techno scene in today's NME.  Here we
    go here we go!

    Anyone catch BBs set in Our Price in Reading today?  I hung around for
    40 minutes, but he was caught up in traffic and hadn't got there by the
    time I left.
    
    
    Mikef

    
    Was he actually going to play there, I was going to go but I had to go
    to sunny Basingstoke today.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Just bought LFO by LFO, Tricky Disco by Tricky Disco had sold out!
    
    I've decided I'm gunna colect all the stuff so far released on the Warp
    label, you never know, it could become the equivalent of So Young, or
    God Save The Queen!!!  Off to Warp on Saturday!
    
    matty

    does this mean you won't be swinging your pants in Reading this
    weekend?  Is anyone out there going?
    
    Mikef
    

    
    I am, there seems to be thousands of people arriving already, I don't
    think  this was such a good idea judging by the colour of the sky at
    the moment.
    
    Tim
    ---

    I'll see you there then Tim.  I'll have a Dec brollie, and Idon't look
    like Black Francis
    
    Mikef

    
    A DEC bollie, don't even think about it, its going to be glorious
    sunshine with just enough of a breeze to keep us cool.
    
    Tim
    ---
    

    naahhh...Reading Festival Weekend??  We're talking monsoon!!  See you
    there anyway.
    
    Mikef.

    
    re .384
    
    I thought you looked more like Jasper Carrott actually.
    
    Paul (running to hide somewhere) ;-}

    har har.  I think he looks more like Winston Churchill, only Mike wears
    a blue coat!
    
    No I'm not going to Reading.  Bad Point/Subject.  I'm getting seriously
    pi$$ed off with nearly getting to gigs, but failing on the last hurdle. 
    I didn't even try last weekend, but the weekend before (The High at the
    Leadmill) I spent most of the early evening trying to get my mate to
    want to go see them.  I played him Box Set Go and PWA (the b-side)
    about 15 times before he said, yeah I like let's go.  But by this time
    it was 10 minutes till gig start and we were nearer to Pontefract than
    Sheffield.   He even tape the record the next day, and has bought the
    new single too!  Life's a bitch.
    
    
    matty

    
    Reading Festival
    
    Thank God it didn't rain in fact it was glorious sunshine all weekend,
    here are my high and low points.
    
    Friday Highs - Mudhoney and especially their version of Sonic Youth's Touch
                   Me I'm Sick
                 - Nick Cave wasn't bad
                 - The Pasta Now stand - Actually finding something edible
                   at  Reading Festival, a first no less.
    
    Friday Lows - Faith No More, yawn although their cover of Easy, like a
                  Sunday morning was funny.
                - The Cramps, they were awful, very boring once the novelty
                  of a bloke in stilletoes and not much else had worn off,
                  the audience left in droves.
    
    Saturday Highs - Ride, pure brilliance
                   - Billy Bragg wonderful this year again
                   - The Buzzcocks, they really enjoyed themselves and it 
                     showed
                   - The Weddoes and especially Kennedy
                   - The Inspiral Carpets, I wasn't really looking foward
                     to them after seeing them in Brighton, I was bored 
                     then but tonight was brilliant, a dancing pantomime
                     cow, a whole troop of drummers for She Comes In The
                     Fall, amazing lights, fireworks and balloons and when
                     they made it snow at the end I was just amazed. 
                     Superb is the only word to describe it
    
    Saturday Lows - None
    
    Sunday Highs - The Telescopes, pretty good.
                 - The Fall, Mark E Smith is just so arrogant its
                   brilliant.
                 - The Pixies, Sublime a wonderful finale
    
    Sunday Lows - Thee Hypnotics, I fell asleep, so boring.
                - Jesus Jones, absoloutely laughable.
                - The end when John Peel played Every Time You Go I Die A
                  Little.....etc (I don't know the title), very sad,
                  especially the realisation that it was all over.
                - Taking the tent down and going home.
    
    Can't wait for next year, what did other people who went think of it.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Quickie...
    
    friday - Tom Robinson Band were excellent.  Cramps sounded boring.
    
    Sat - Missed Wire (sorry Ed).  Bill, Weddoes were great.  Gave the
    Inspirals a miss and caught Martin Stephenson in the the tent, and I'm
    glad I did!!  Great set.
    
    Sun - Fall were good, Band of Holy Joy, Bridewell Taxis, and Jonathon
    Richman in the tent all put in fantastic sets - serious frenzy.  Also
    good bop in the tent afterwards, until security stepped in and put a
    stop to it.
    
    S
    Some good veggie curries!
    
    more when I think of it.
    
    Mikef
    
    PS-toilets were worse than last year!!

How _could_ you miss the Inspirals? (AND WIRE!)

Mike, how were Jesus Jones? Earlier reports were blah.

Ed

    I saw the Inspirals earlier this year.  ALso, a lot of bands are good
    if you are up front of the stage (like I was for the Weddoes and Billy)
    but awfully dull if you are a way back...the arena is quite large.  I
    prefer smaller venues.  SOme bands could play to the whole arena (eg
    New Order last year), and some couldn't.  The Inspirals did try with
    some good fireworks and amazing searchlights tho!!
    
    Jesus Jones I sort of enjoyed, again I wasn't up the front.  Was it my
    imaginations, or was it quieter this year???\
    
    Mikef

    Anyone know of any essentially groovy radio stations that can be found
    in the South of France?  Also, I saw a tv channel marked 'MCM'??? Is
    this a music channel?
    
    Mikef

    
    
    	MCM is almost a music channel, check it out to see what i mean.
    
    	NRJ radio is not bad, but french.

    If your not too hot at French and want to listen to NRJ (which is the
    best station I ever found over there), listen for the DJ's saying
   "ENERGY", that's how they pronounce NRJ!
    
    Sad, but true.
    
    
    Russell.
    

    
    Well, I went to Reading Fest on Saturday anyway (got dragged along
    donchaknow ;-)  Got there just in time to catch all of Billy Bragg - on
    form as usual.  Then I went into the Mean Fiddler tent to catch the
    last of Fatima Mansions and then the Man from Del Monte.  Then I
    trundled along to Cartoons where I tried chatting up this rather nice
    blond girl - and failed miserably.  On to London on Sunday and went to
    The World Famous (well that's what it said) Gin Palace.  Good place,
    open till 11:30 on Sunday, free entrance and you get a free burger and
    chips aswell!
    
    Monday I made my foirst ever trip to Notting Hill Carnival and I've
    gotta say it was probably the most enjoyable part of the weekend (apart
    from the cute blond girl maybe).  Good atmosphere, good music, good
    food and the pubs were open all day!!
    
    Paul

    RE .395
    
    In fact, in French, the initials NRJ are pronounced the same way than 
    the word "ENERGIE". I suppose this is the reason why.
    
    Christophe.

    
    
      Sounds like the RRF was a good time. Thanks out to  all of you
    who gave reviews.  Two question tho  - wasn't Jane's Addiction on
    the bill?, and if they were, how were they?   

    I don't think they played, due to illness.  Several Stuffies were there
    tho', and grinned furiously.
    
    Mikef

    Janes Addiction pulled out, one of the band was ill apparently.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Has anyone heard the remix of the Primal Scream single that came out
    this week, if so what is it like.
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    Do you mean "Come Together"?  If so, it's brilliant (in my opinion).
    
    A good mixture of a dancey/funky beat with the unique vocal style of
    PS accompanied by 'soul-sounding' female backing vocals.
    	Very inspiring and very original.  I've got the 12" version and the
    shorter version (8 minutes or so) is much better than the extended
    version (10 minutes) which bears little to no relationship to the
    original song.
    	Highly recommended if you're in to that sort of music, and let's
    face it - who isn't?
    
    
    Russell.
    
    

    
    Yes this Come Together is the one that I meant, I've got it as well but
    there was a remix out this week by BBG and by the band themselves and
    it was this I was wondering about, anyone heard it?
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    Just bought "Iceblink Luck" by the Cocteau Twins, its a bit more
    cerebral than the stuff I've been buying recently, its their first
    single for four years and it's a goodie.
    
    Tim
    ---

   It's absolutely wonderful, best thing I've heard in months.

   Goldy

    
    Goldy
    
    Whats your mail stop so I can send you the fanzine you wanted, I mailed
    everyone that wanted one but the mail I sent to you was returned by the
    Postmaster.
    
    Tim
    ---

  Tim, read the mail I just sent you !

    Tim, 
    
    I got the Hypnotonebrainmachinemix/BBG mix of `Come Together'.  The
    first mix is even better than Terry Farley's 8.02 mix off the normal
    12", but the BBG mix is naff.

    
    Come payday I think I will purchase the said item.
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    I bought the new Pogues single on Saturday and I think I have to agree
    with whoever it was who said it sounded like something from Playaway. 
    The lyrics aren't too hot either, seems all Shane says all the way
    through is just 'Summer in Siam'.
    
    The B-side, 'B*stard Landlord' is better and more like the stuff that
    they usually play.
    
    Paul

    Is there  Fall compilation coming out soon, does anyone know?  anyone
    have track listing maybe?
    
    Mikef
    
    ps - duff singles and failing to chat up blondes, aounds like you
    should take a holiday paul!

    
    Yes the new Fall compilation album is out today, its called something
    like 84858687, well its got alot of numbers in it anyway.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Ta Tim!  You haven't picked it up have you?  Anything else wild
    released this week?  And why are records so expensive in France?
    
    Mikef

    
    No I haven't got it yet but come payday.....
    
    Tim
    ---

    Probably catch you in Reading this weekend then!!  I shall be spending
    furiously...well, I might get the Fall lp if I don't have too many
    tracks...possibly...errr...
    
    Mikef

   >                 <<< Note 611.411 by SHAPES::FIDDLERM >>>
   >                         -< Summer in Valbonne >-
    
    humph, well, some of us don't need to take holidays do we Mike?

    I'm working hard, you swine!!  Honest!!  Still haven't found any decent
    record shops tho.  Wonder why there are never any records cheap in the
    duty free?
    
    Mikef

    
    Are you surprised you haven't found any decent record shops, have the
    French ever made any decent records? Need I say more?
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    I can feel a torrent of abuse coming from Vanessa Paradis and Plastic
    Bertrand fans coming.
    
    Tim
    --- 

    Its Worse than that now....
    
    Plastic B isn't French
    
    Dave

    
    Sascha Distel, Charles Azanvour, Plastic Betrand (sound French, who
    cares if he's Belgian!?!?)
    
    Mark

    Funny how every time you UK noters talk about French productions you
    always mention Plastic Bertrand. He must have had a huge impact in the
    UK; everybody seems to remember that guy. Here he's completely forgotten.  
    Fortunately Tim is here to make us amnesiac Frenchmen remember. Btw
    could he send me a copy of Plastic Bertrand's Greatest Hits ? It's
    impossible to find over here.
    
    Christophe.

    `Up And Down' by the High is OK, but very very soft, no guts and not
    very trendy at all.
    
    `Groovy Train' by the Farm is a bit naff also, but I'll get the 12"
    'cause I have a feeling it'll be a lot better.
    
    Deee-Lite are now at No4 after 3 weeks - didn't I say a few weeks ago
    it might get to No1?  Also Betty Boo is No3 as predicted.  I ought to
    start betting.
    
    
    matty

    I thought Plastic Bertrand was Belgian.
    
    Greatest Hits...? You mean there's more than "Ca Plane Pour Moi"?

    Sorry, hven't found NRJ, but the MCM channel shows a lot of French
    music.  I'm afraid -1 is right, a lot of it makes Phil Collins look
    adventurous, but there has to be a lot of good music around that I
    don't know about.  BTW - I saw a new Vanessa Paradis video last night,
    image change or what!  Won't get shown on UK tv, I shouldn't think.  
    
    Favourites here seem to be that one about 'The Power', and 'Lam b****y
    bada' .
    
    Mikef

    How can you think French music without remembering Michel le Grande
    (Michael the Big - if you've got it flaunt it ;'} ), or Jean Michel
    Jarre etc....
    
    
    Paul

    or Django Rienhart(sp)

    I listened to the Primal Scream remix last night, ie Listened with a
    Capital `L'.  The drums are louder in the mix, and the whole thing is
    infested with acid style blips.  Also there is no chorus, the only
    vocals being the `Come Together' gospelly bit.  It's also 5.14 long.
    
    So now you know.
    
    RE France,  JM Jarre is/was pretty good, but I wish someone would show
    hima tune!
    
    
    matty

    This week's Record Mirror and this month's Select come with free
    cassettes.  The RM contains 4 tracks from LL Cool J, Pasadenas, Teena
    Marie, someone else and is naff.  The other one contains about 12
    tracks from guys like the Pixes and Fortran 5 (you know them, you do.)
    and I can't remember the rest 'cause I haven't got it yet.  But I did
    get Tricky Disco 7" & the KLF 7".
    
    
    matty

    
    Bought the Farms new 12" today
    
    Tim
    ---

    RE-1 - The Farm.  Are the 12" versions any good?
    
    
    Steve Miller is No1 in the charts!  What is the world coming to???
    
    At least Deee-Lite are No2.
    
    
    matty

    
    I like the 12" versions, they're not much different from each other
    really though, the Terry Farley mix just seems like a longer version of
    the 7", did he do that aswell?  The other mix is more instrumental.
    
    Its a tradgedy that Deee-Lite was beaten to No 1 by yet another jeans
    commercial spin off, ruined your prediction as well. Is the 12"  very
    different from the 7" I'm going to buy it but I'm not sure which
    version to get.
    
    Tim
    ---

    re .434
    
    Maybe not a record made with computers, but still a record made with
    the maximum available technology of the day.
    
    This is not a comment on the value of the record, just an observation
    of attitude.
    
    Bob

    re 434
    
    No not made with computers but hyped by a commercial.

    Guess I prefer old tech.. I didn't realise it was as a result of a
    jeans commercial. Oh well, never mind. There's always Mozart.

    Deee Lite.  There's not much difference between the 7" and the 12". 
    The 12" has a few more witty samples here and there which really
    perfect it.  I'd say the 7" is only 95% as good as the 12", but it's up
    to you whether the difference is worth #1.50.
    
    RE last 2.  Great comments, wish I'd said that.
    
    Has anybody heard the MC Tunes vs 808 State `Tunes Splits The Atom'???
    It's great, it's got the bassline from the Stone Roses `I Am The
    Resurrection'.  Also DNA latest `La Serinissma' - The first housr
    record with an oboe on it!  Classic.
    
    This morning I received the following records through the post, and I
    am most grateful to the bloke you sent them.  It was like all my
    christmasses had come at once.
    
    Madonna	  Hanky Panky	US 12"promo
    Madonna	  Like A Prayer	US 12"promo with unreleased mixes & black sl.
    Pet Shop Boys Left To My Own Devices US 12"
    Erasure	  Chains Of Love US 12" promo
    Erasure	  Drama US 12"promo
    Erasure	  A Little Respect US 12"promo
    Erasure	  A Little Respect US 12"promo with 2 unreleased mixes and
    							different sleeve.
    Erasure	  Blue Savannah US 12"promo
    Erasure	  Blue Savannah US 12"promo with 3 unreleased mixes.
    
    Am I happy! Yes I am!!!!!!!! Yahooo!!!
    
    
    matty

    
    The MC Tunes V 808 State thing is really good it's a shame that I can't
    get the fact that I thought MC Tunes came across as a total prat in the
    Southbank show about Manchester out of my head.
    
    Tim
    ---

    agree with you there, Tim.  BTW-Everyone go and buy the Fall
    compilation lp "458489".  17 tracks, everyone a corker.  If you only
    own one Fall album, make sure its this one.
    
    just living too late - ahh!
    
    Mikef

    
    Trouble is I've already got over half the tracks, think I'll buy it anyway.
    
    Tim
    ---

    still worth iit Tim!!  use your 50p off voucher at HMV!
    
    Mikef

    Re .440
    
    I see 'MC Tunes' almost every time I visit Eastern Bloc in Manchester,
    the guy is like that all the time, a real prick..
    
    Craig
    
    PS Has anyone seen the early photo shot of the Stone Roses in Q
    magazine?  Love those skin-tight leather look trousers guys!!
    
    

    
    Its funny when you see these so called popstars regularly in real life,
    most tend to be prats.  Bobby Gillespie (Primal Scream)is often around 
    Brighton and has been at certain clubs when I've been there, the fear 
    of getting moderated stops me from writing what I think about him.
    
    Mind you some are OK I suppose, Ride are really friendly and seemed
    really down to earth (the drummer slept on a friends floor and then
    invited us to stay at his house in Oxford)
    
    Tim
    ---

    Mark E Smith seems a bit of a di@khead too.  And did you see LL Cool J
    on the Word?  All he could say was "It's cool man, it's cool". 
    Mentally unstable.
    
    matty

	>Mark E Smith seems a bit of a di@khead too. 
                                       ^^^^^^^^
    I had to deal with the Fall when I was at RCA and that is an 
    understatment!  Love and Rockets (it's "and" not "&") were 
    impossible too.  However, Peter Murphy was a gentlemen.  
    
    The list goes on.  It was a rather disillusioning experience.
    
    -Vicki

    Believe it or not, my 'Nice guys of rock & roll' award (through limited
    personal experience) goes to those lovable old rogues the Stranglers.
    
    Bob

    nahh, Billy Bragg wins every time.  BTW, if you worked for a record
    company, of course MES is going to treat you with contempt!  Its
    obvious, innit?  The one time I met with him, he was a great bloke. 
    Even shared his lager.
    
    Mikef

    David Gedge really went out of his way so that I could interview him.
    
    A sound bloke, as is Billy Bragg who never stops talking, I only got
    through a few of my questions before he had to go onstage. (Fanzines
    out later today hopefully, I've been very busy excuses, excuses).
    
    Tim
    ---

    You're probably right about BB, Mike - a regular bloke if ever there
    was one, although I haven't met him.
    
    Gits of the century award goes to (predictably, I suppose) Generation
    X - any band with Billy idol *and* Tony James in it has just got to be
    dodgy.
    
    Perhaps it's time for a 'Namedropping' or 'Stars I have rubbed
    shoulders with' topic.....
    
    Bob

    :-)

    Just got the MC Tunes/808 State 7", thanks to my helper/go
    getter/fetching person/dogsbody etc.
    
    matty

    
    Really Tim, you're going to see Soul II Soul, I dunno what to say.
    
    
    Kevin.
    ~~~~~~
    

    
    Well I went to see Soul II Soul last night, as I said not normally my
    type of thing but on the whole it was pretty good.  There were so many
    people on stage, 3 horns, 3 keyboard players, a drummer, percussionist,
    3 backing singers, 5 dancers and at the end 4 main singers + Jazzie B.  Some
    parts of the show were a bit self indulgent but most of it was really
    good.  They played all their well known songs and a lot of stuff off
    the new album.  Overall I'm glad I went, a different type of concert to
    those I normally go to.  The one thing that surprised me was the fact
    that it took so long for the audience to get into it and start dancing,
    and this was Britain's premier soul act.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Thanks Tim for the fanzine.
    
    At the weekend I bought;
    
    LFO			-	Brainstorm White Label 12" (not as good as
    							    the last one)
    Awsome 3		-	Hard Up 7" (Dead good)
    Bass-o-matic	-	Facinating Rhythm 12" (Great tune, naff
    								mixes)
    Electribe 101	-	You're Walking 12" (I hate her singing, but
    						the Ambient Groove mix is OK)
    MXM			-	Nothin Compares 2 U 12" (really ameteurish)
    Shamen		-	Make It Mine 12" (Very clubbish and dead
    									good)
    
    matty

    
    I don't know how true this is but I heard it from several different
    sources over the weekend.  Apparently last week when Steve Miller went
    to No.1 he and DeeLite sold the same number of records, i.e. joint
    no.1, but Steve Miller was put there because it had increased its sales
    by a higher percentage (they'd obviously shown the advert alot).  This
    seems unfair to me and a joint no.1 should have been announced, it
    would have been good publicity for the chart as well, as I don't think
    this has happened before.  Anyone know anything about it?
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    Just bought the following, hope they're worth the soaking I got.
    
    Depeche Mode - World In My Eyes 12"
    Ride - Fall EP
    Wedding Present - All The Songs Sound The Same EP 10" version,
                      apparently pretty difficult to get hold of.
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    re .458
    
    Tim,
    
    There was quite alot about this on The Word.  Apparently the GALLUP/BBC
    chart did this but the Network Chart did not and put Dee-Lite at No.1
    instead.  This seems just about as unfair as the GALLUp decision.  
    
    However this does prompt a question, I always thought that the
    difference betwwen the two charts was because the GALLUP chart takes
    into account the amount of Radio air play the song has had.  Therefore,
    even if they both had the same sales, but Steve Miller had more
    air-time, this would account for the decision.
    
    Personnally I don't think it makes a hoot of difference.  I buy records
    because I like the sound of them, not on their Network/GALLUP chart
    position.
    
    Paul

    
    I agree, I buy records because of what they sound like, but I bet it
    makes a lot of difference to DeeLite, i.e lost sales, the prestige of
    having a number one etc.
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    They did actually interview Dee-Lite on the program about it although
    they didn't really seem to notice the relevance of it and were more
    interested about spreading their message of World Peace.
    
    paul

RE .458

On The Word they mentioned that GALLUP has a policy of never awarding 
joint placings.  

Re .460
>    difference betwwen the two charts was because the GALLUP chart takes
>    into account the amount of Radio air play the song has had.  Therefore,

I'm pretty sure that GALLUP bases its chart solely on record sales. They like
to make the point that because its all computerised, it's more reliable, etc. 
But we all know about computers, don't we! :-)

--patrick--

    At the danger of re-opening an old rathole, what's wrong with adverts
    promoting records?
    
    Surely videos are nothing more than adverts for the records and the IBA
    would be quite happy to show videos (I presume) if they pay the going
    rate, so why shouldn't a record which is popular as a backing for an
    advert be successful as a single?
    
    Personally, I'm not a great Steve Miller fan, but at least this record
    doesn't involve ripping off bits of other people's records. To me there
    is NOTHING worse than seeing a so-called band with two people playing
    turntables! <FLAME_OFF>
    
    Mark

    >At the danger of re-opening an old rathole, what's wrong with adverts
    >promoting records?
    
    Ask me that in about ten years when some swimwear manufacturer revives
    Itsy-bloodin-bitsy.
    
    Paul

    I don't like the idea that only selected shops are counted towards the
    Gallup chart.  I guess that if all shops WERE counted then DeeeLite
    would be No1 because I bet they out sold Steve Miller in the Indie
    shops that aren't counted.  (That's not a very solid guess though)
    
    The chart will only be fair when ALL shops are counted and ALL records
    sold in those shops are input into the Gallup system.  ie.  I bet
    bargain bin sales don't get entered.  The main shop in Doncaster puts
    nearly all new releases in the bargain bin.  Some of these records do
    make the chart eventually, but I feel maybe some of them would have
    done better if the initial bargain bin sales were counted.
    
    Another issue:  Has anyone noticed when a new release has a big round
    sticker on saying 99p, and it's 12".  Why do they sell them at bargain
    prices?  eg, the current MC Tunes/808 State 12" is available for 1.99
    instead of the usual 3.29, and I got both High 12"s for 99p each.
    I think people see that these records are going cheap, so they don't buy
    them 'cause they think they're crap.
    
    
    matty

    
    The reason records are often cheaper when they are released is so that
    more people will buy them and push the record into the charts.  Once
    in the charts it will get more airplay and therefore more people will
    hear it and hopefully buy it at the newly increased price.
    
    Another "trick" used is to release only the 12" in the first week, all
    the "fans" will buy the 12" in the first week anyway putting it in the
    charts, then the not so avid fans will buy the 7" in the second week
    giving a record a longer chart life,  supposedly.  I guess it works on
    the same principles of limited editions and remixes being released once
    a record has broken the Top 40.
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    Reviews of yesterdays purchases
    
    Ride - Good songs again but I'm not sure of the mix, it was done by
           Alan Moulder, the guy that took all the rough edges off the Mary 
           Chain on the Automatic album.  It'll probably grow on me.
    
    Depeche Mode - A good remix of a good song, very bleepy.
    
    Wedding Present - A typical Weddoes record i.e. very good, shame my
                      copy need exchanging its very crackly and very
                      warped.
    
    Tim
    ---

    did you manageto get the 10" of the Weddoes....two live tracks (come up
    and take me, fnarr) both of which feature me and bruce screaming our
    little hearts out.
    
    Mikef
    

Tim,  did you notice if the new Depeche Mode single is mixed by Jon Marsh 
(of Beloved fame) ? I believe he has worked on the single somewhere along
the line but perhaps this will be a track on the 12" remix

Ta,

Peter

    
    Re -1 Yes i got the 10", where were the live tracks recorded then?
    
    Re -1 The Jon Marsh remix must be on a future edition as the one I've
          got is mixed by somebody else.
    
    Tim
    ---

    The live tracks were recorded at leeds in may.
    
    mikef

    Radio 1 keep playing the Shamen.  Good or what!
    
    Who saw TOTP?  They censored the Iron Maiden video!  Charlatans' lead
    singer has had his hair cut - it's got to be the end for Manc. now!
    
    Oueee Oueee, What time is love?, Oueee Oueee, Make it mine - everytime.
    
    Isn't life great!
    
    Techno Techno Techno Warp Warp Network Nexus 21.
    
    
    matty

    What part of the Iron Maidenvideo was censored then?
    
    I thought that the MC Tunes thing was good but would be much better
    with just the Stone Roses baseline and none of those beeps.
    
    I still haven't heard the Shamen, this is extremely annoying.
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    Has anyone heard the new Beautiful South single.  It's sort of along
    the same lines as "Keep it all in" but slower.  I believe it's called
    "Take a little time".
    
    I heard it on Radio the other day but I fink I'm gonna invest in it.
    
    Paul

    RE Beautiful South.  I've not heard it, but it's out today.  Hopefully
    I can get tickets for their November gig in Warrington.
    
    Tim, some of us like those bleep on the MC Tunes record!  Does anyone
    know if `Olympic State' will be released now that the Manchester
    Olympic bid has failed?  Has anyone else heard the `Cubik' US remixes? 
    What I heard was a bit naff compared to the original.
    
    Records obtained at the weekend (not stolen);
    Human League	-	Hysteria cassette (this unbelievably crap. 
    					`Loiuse' is great, `The Lebanon' is
    					OK, but Rock It Again (six times).)
    River City People	-	California Dreamin' 7" (Essential - sort
    									of)
    Wedding Present	-	All The Songs Sound The Same 10"EP (This is
    					great.  How do they play that fast?
    					How can they play that fast Live? 
    					How can they do more than one song at
    					that speed.  The mind boggles.)
    
    		Sheff Utd 0	Leeds Utd 2     Ha Ha Ha
    
    Great record shop (HMV) in the Meadowhall shopping centre near
    Sheffield.  I mean really good, better than any other HMV I've seen -
    it wipes the floor with the ones in London.
    
    matty
    
    matty

    Re:-Wedding Present	-	All The Songs Sound The Same 10"EP (This is
    					great.  How do they play that fast?
    					How can they play that fast Live? 
    					How can they do more than one song at
    					that speed.  The mind boggles.)
    
    
    Go and see them live, its amazing, I think their fingers must be made
    out of asbestos, I swear you can sometimes see smoke coming from the
    strings.
    
    Tim
    ---

    I just bought the Pet Shop Boys 12" and cassingle.  I don't think the
    a-side is as good as the reviews suggest, but it's OK.  But the b-side
    is a bit naff.  I usually like PSB b-sides, so maybe this is a sign
    that PSB are on their way `down the dumper'. (A Neil Tennant Phrase as
    used by Smash Hits).
    
    
    matty

    Why did you buy the 12" and the cassingle aren't they the same?
    
    Tim
    ---

Cassingles used to be the equivalent of a 12" on tape, but this switched over 
to the equivalent of 7" a year or two ago when cassingles really took off.

Latest Pet Shop Boys 12" has an extended Dance mix besides the A and B sides
on 7"/cassingle. Produced by Harold Faltermeyer, and jolly good it is too !

Peter

    RE-2ish.
    
    I would have bought the cassette single even if it was the same as the
    12", and I will by the 7" and any remixes too.  Pet Shop Boys are one
    of the 4 artists that I collect everything of.
    
    I love the Dub Mix.  It's great, it really is.  I'd love to hear it in
    a club, but taking out the bits of vocals would take it from 99% to
    100% perfect.
    
    Jan, I agree with what you say about the music sounding seperate from
    the vocals, but I think the ordinary 7" version is not as bad as the
    Dance Mix.  The Dance Mix is bloody awful!
    
    I really think PSB's have had it.  One of the factors I use to make
    predictions on artists is to judge their b-sides.  `Isn't It Obvious'
    is really bad compared to some of their previous b-sides.  One of the
    reasons I like PSB's is because all their b-sides aren't on their LP's,
    and as I said the quality is usually high.
    
    Do we have a PSB topic?  Should we have one?
    
    
    matty
    

    I've just seen China Crisis African & White in HMV, another remix
    obviously to promote the greatest hits LP, I haven't heard it but I bet
    it isn't anything like as good as the original.
    
    Tim
    ---
    
    

    re.483
    
    What are the other 3 artists that you collect everything of, is
    Maddona one of them?
    
    Tim
    ---

    Madonna, Erasure, PSB and New Order.  I have about 150 Madonna items
    worth 800/900 quid, Erasure 350, PSB 300 and New Order only about 150. 
    Oh and I also have all the Stone Roses stuff, but they haven't released
    nearly half as much as any of the others.
    
    More News,  A-ha `Crying In The Rain' is their new single.  I use to
    collect all the A-ha stuff too, but quite a few of their records are
    worth around 60 quid a piece.
    
    Adamski played a few tracks from his new LP, live on Radio 1.  He also
    did `Overkiller', a new version of `Killer'.  His new single sounds
    good musically, but I hate his singing, even though he's almost as good
    live as he is on record.
    
    matty

    Tim,
    
    Is that Smiths 'Charming Man' 12" the one with the London and
    Manchester mixes, plus 'Wonderful Woman' and 'Accept Yourself'?
    
    
    re cassette singles - does anyone know if it is possible to buy blank
    tapes of this kind of length (sort of a C-10)?
    
    Bob

    Yes it is, it was available on import a while  ago, but the catolougue
    number was different, from memory I think the valuable one is RT135,
    its got 35 and RT in there somewhere.
    
    Tim
    ---

    re .489.
    
    Dave,
    
    are these tapes of a high enough quality for a person to use if they
    want to do their own cassetee single?
    
    Bob

    re -1
    
    The tapes may last long etc but they still are of low quality, I
    surpose it all depends how much of a audiophile you are but I find them
    terrible.
    
    ..Craig
    

    Did anyone see TOTP last night it was actually quite good, they had the
    Depeche Mode video, The Weddoes playing "Come up and see", this was
    brilliant, Grapper had a guitar with two fret boards and sets of
    strings, he was strumming one set and doing the finger work on the
    other, and the camera zoomed in on it for a close up, taking the p***
    or what.  They also had the Cure video,  another goodie but I'm not
    very keen on the song and finished with Ride's video.
    
    A surprisingly good edition
    
    Tim
    ---

	Re .493 etc

	You can buy high quality C-15s specifically for demo purposes...

	Jonathan.

Tim,

I think the Smiths 12" is RTT136...another lucky owner!

Ed

    Some studios actually have stocks of blank tapes of varying lengths. 
    You can also get C15s from Boots for 50p.
    
    Maria Mckee is still No1, PSB's are a new entry at No4.
    
    Why aren't the Shamen in the Top40???
    
    I bought;
    
    Baby Ford			Change				12"
    Western Block		Don't Know What It's Called	7"
    Mike `Hitman' Wilson	Another Sleepless Night		7"
    The Grid			A Beat Called Love		7"
    
    RE. Collections.  Friday's Record Collector has the latest values of
    Madonna's UK discography.  Going by that I have 609.75's worth, plus
    all the imports I have.  `Who's That Girl' picture disc is now valued
    at 40 quid!!!   I could have bought 20 of these at 2.99 each!  Sic as a
    parrot.
    
    
    matty

    I heard Status Quo's aniversary waltz this morning, I didn't think even
    they could go any lower, its basically a rock version of Jive Bunny,
    absoloutely awful.
    
    Tim
    ---

    The Beloved have a new promo in the clubs called `It's Alright'
    (Another Streling Void cover version?).
    
    I hate that Status Quo record too, and it's No5 (a 22 place jump!).
    
    The Shamen are No42 for the 3rd week running, is this a record?
    
    Maxi Priest is No1 in the US (Are they mad over there or what?)  I also
    hear that the Americans want to widen the goalposts for the next World
    Cup!!!!)
    
    matty

    >I hate that Status Quo record too, and it's No5 (a 22 place jump!).
    
    I know what you mean, and apparently it's 17 minutes long or something. 
    It sounds like the sort of stuff they play at Wedding recpetions.
    
    >Maxi Priest is No1 in the US (Are they mad over there or what?)  I also
    
    Oy! What's wrong with Maxi?!

    Remember those Inspirals' milk bottles.  I found someone who had one,
    but they gave it back to the Milkman.  Arrrrggghhhh!
    
    matty

    Bad move, I had several people looking out for them for me in
    Manchester but with no luck.
    
    Tim
    ---
    
    Still I've still got my Smiths car sticker.

So anybody heard the new PWEI single yet?

I'm gonna get it at the weekend anyway even though you all think it's crap!
Those Grebos play Edinburgh on the 17th and I'm gonna be there too ...

Wise up suckers

    I saw some good Poppies T shirts at Reading Festival, they had the
    PEPSI logo on and said something I can't repeat in this conference
    around it.
    
    Tim
    ---

    From the Newsagents (50p each) I just bought;
    
    Orbital		- Chime 7"
    Inner City		- Do You Love What You Feel 7"
    Steven Tintin Duffy	- Kiss Me 7"
    Hollywood Beyond	- What's The Colour Of Money 7"
    
    matty

    
    Just bought the following
    
    St Ettienne - Kiss & make Up 12" (this will be big, I hope)
    Morrissey - Piccadilly Palare 12" (haven't heard it yet, bought it for
    				       completeness)
    Charlatans - Some Friendly LP (Supposed to be Dead Dead Good, it came
    				   in a strange white vinyl sleeve, I guess
    				   it must be some form of Limited
    				   edition.) 
    
    I heard the new Cure dance mix of Close To Me last night, on first
    listening my considered opinion is, brilliant.  The new Paris Angels
    song is a bit dodgy though.
    
    Tim
    ---

    That Stephen Tintin Duffy record turned out to be a Portuguese copy!
    
    News:
    Black Box's new single will be Fantasy (Don't all rush at once!)
    Tainted Love is remixed and soon to be re-released.
    Deee-Lite's next single is due out this week (Don't know what it is
    	though!)
    
    Bought at a Record Fair at the weekend;
    
    Megatrax Megamix - PSB Megagamix/Madonna Megamix PtII/Maria Vidal -
    						Body Rock (Dutch Remix)
    Various		-	Best Of House Megamix
    Yazoo		-	Nobody's Diary 7"
    OMD			-	Genetic Engineering 7"
    Strawberry Switchblade -	Since Yesterday 7"
    Lone Justice	-	Shelter 7"promo
    Wedding Pressent	-	That Ukranian LP thingy on white label 10"
    								promo
    
    matty

Anybody heard the Pet Shop Boys remix 12". This has KLF versus The Pet Shop Boys
emblazoned on the sleeve. Aren't KLF the people who did that yucky chart topper
"Doctorin' The Tardis" (under a different name)?

Anyway,the 12" is basically cr*p especially the B side. The U.F.O mix of It Must 
Be Obvious is basically excerpts from that track with no re-mixing what-so-ever,
sandwiching silly U.F.O noises. I reckon KLF are trying to sell themselves as 
Sound-effects specialists. Really cheap and nasty, and I'm surprised The Pet 
Shop Boys have allowed it.

Peter
 

    Peter,  That PSB remix sounds crap, but I'm sure I'll still buy it!
    		Have you heard the new single yet?
    
    Jan,  I don't know whether it's a cover version (Tainted Love) or not,
    or if it's a new version.  The DJ in the club I was in just said "...that
    a new remix was due out in the shops next week (This was Sat night), and
    here is the orginal."  Then he played the original!
    
    
    matty

Matty,

Yeh I quite like the proper 7" and 12" mixes of "So Hard", not too vastly 
different from their other stuff. I'm really into the B side "It Must Be 
Obvious" at the moment (although I wasn't too keen at first)...sounds like
they borrowed New Order's synths here shortly after the Electronic 
collaboration.  

    re .508,
    
    Peter,
    
    You are right: the KLF had a hit with 'Doctorin' the Tardis' under the
    name of the Timelords.
    
    Bob

    Question;
    
    RE the Wedding Presents Ukranian LP.  Does anyone know the title and
    it's tracks?  Does anyone like it?
    
    

    I've got it Matty so I could find them out for you if you want, do I
    like it? I haven't listened to it much, its got good novelty value
    though, I wouldn't say I liked or disliked it.
    
    Tim
    ---

    I just sent someone for the PSBvsKLF remix 12"

Matty I  don't have the Ukie thingy yet...but I have a live tape with a Ukie
song  in  between two songs, one being my favorite (A MILLION MILES) and the
contrast is amazing. They threw some Ukie chords into A.M.M...and now I want
the  Ukie  thingy.  The  Weddoes  sell  live tapes from the address on their
records and they sound better live than studio to me...Ed

The title of the Ukrainian LP was Ukrainski Vistupi vs. Johna Peel.  I think
it's really good.  How can anyone say it was a novelty album?  You mean the
Wedding Present are usually a *serious* band?  Well I never...

Whilst in a miscellaneous whitter note, Anbody got any thoughts on the new
single by his Smithsness, Morrissey?  Yes?  What do you mean it sound like his
last five singles?  Oh yes, and for all those out there who are finding it real
cumbersome trying to organise all your Morrissey singles, you can throw them all
away in a few weeks time and buy the singles compilation `Bona Drag'

    
    Apparently The Mission of all people are set to be Christmas No.1 (I'm
    dreaming of a black Christmas full of death destruction....) they have
    recorded Merry Christmas Everbody in the guise of The Metal Gurus and
    book makers have made it 5-1.
    
    Still it might be better than Cliff Richard, you never know.
    
    Tim
    ---

    I reckon Madonna will have something new for release, and the bookies
    will make it 2-1 on, or something and it will fail for the 3rd time!
    
    in 86 Open Your Heart was tipped but only made No4, in 87 Look Of Love
    peaked at No9!
    
    I don't reckon the Mission will make Top5, though I've not heard it
    yet.
    
    George Micheal is now No1 in the US.
    
    matty

    Where's Mike Fiddler gone?

Mike's on vacation he'll be back in a week or two...

    re-2  Yes I got the Oct Record Collector!  It's nice to know your
    investments are rising in value - fast!
    
    re-1 Arthur sho?
    
    re.Pete, the KLF vs PSB.  I love that UFO mix of `Isn't It Obvious'. 
    I'm gonna sample all those sounds, now all I need is a sampler!
    
    Where's Mikef gone?  Clacton?  Bognor?  Rhyl?
    
    
    matty

Mike's in the Lakes District.

    Hi Guy's,
    
    Could someone tell if there is different versions of Mystic "Ritmo
    De la Noche", i.e Spanish version, this single was a hit while I
    was on holiday in Majorca Magaluff, it seems so far I have only
    been able to pick up a 7" remix copy.
    
    
    Martin

    YO!!!  Mikefs back on the scene!!  well, he will be after a second
    cofee, or maybe a third.
    
    Hate the Mozzer single, when is he gonna get a decent tunesmith?
    
    Love the chorus  of the PSB single, rest isa bit dull tho.
    
    Charlatans lp none too exciting, ok for the car tho.
    
    Paris Angels Perfume 12" - mega, especially the bt where they
    chorus 'its up to you baby'. 
  
     You must all get the Wedding Present video *PUNK.  Its the only music
    vid I can watch all the way thru without reaching for the fast forward. 
    Stonking live tracks (I remember from when I was there, etc etc...),
    you get a glimpse of  Bruce himself.  Great stuff.      Go out and get
    it now, unless you don't like the Wedding Present, in which case, err,
    don't get it.  Possibly.
    
    Mikef

    Mike,  Welcome back.  Should I go out and buy the WP video?  I haven't
    got a video machine/recorder/playback thingy!
    
    Martin, That track you mentioned.  I've never heard of it!  If it was
    Top 40, or even advertised in the various rags, then I was asleep.
    
    Matty's invasion of the charts is about to begin.  I've spent the last
    4 or 5 weeks learning how to use a midistudio, keyboard, computer
    sequencer etc.  and now I get to use the lot every Saturday for 5
    hours!  Now all I need is a good set of songs and I can inflict myself
    upon you all!
    
    I beat my record of `how many records bought in a day' on Saturday.  38
    in under 3 hours from Wakefield and Doncaster.  Admitedly most of it
    was bargain bin stuff, and some of it was where you get x amount of
    singles for x pence and you can only see the singles on the outside. 
    (That is my excuse for buying some really crap stuff!)
    
    I'll list them in a minute, with comments, but I'm off to th canteen
    for some soup first!
    
    
    matty

    Here goes;
    
    D-Shake		-	Yaaahh/Trance Dance 7" (This is good Tehno)
    Overlord X		-	Kickbag 7"
    Crimial Elements Orchestra - Put The Needle To The Record 7" (Classic)
    Sottish World Cup Squad -	Say It With Pride 7" (this is really good)
    Technotronic	-	This Beat IS Technotronic 7" (This beat is,
    		this beat is, this beat is very similar to our last record)
    Tom Jones		-	Move Closer 7" and 7" g/f (I'm not
    				colecting Tom Jones or anything)
    Damian		-	Wig Wam Bam 7" (4 copies)
    
    	This reminds me.  Mud and the Sweet are playing Donaster soon.  I
    can't wait.  I missed Gene Pitney on Saturday and it really spoiled my
    weekend.  (I wish I new the `sarcasm' sign)
    
    Red Head Kingpin	-	Do The Right Thing 7"
    Big Fun		-	Blame It On The Boogie 7"x2 (I swear this
    				was on the inside of a pack)
    Midnight Oil	-	Blue Sky Mine 7"EP g/f (Incl Beds are
    								Burning)
    Hollow Men		-	White Train 7"
    Donny Osmond	-	Groove 7"
    Bad English		-	Price Of Love 7"
    Empire		-	My Imagination 7" (ABC soundalikes)
    A-Ha		-	Crying In The Rain cassingle (I like this!)
    Charlatans		-	Some Friendly Edition LP (with white vinyl
    		outer sleeve.  I will post a review when I've listened to
    		it a few times.  Sounded OK, but not half as good as SRoses
    		on the first play)
    Depeche Mode	-	World In My Eyes 12" limited ed. with blue
     vinyl outer sleeve.  (The Dub In My Eyes mix sounds dead like what
     Kraftwerk were doing a whole decade ago, the Mode To Joy mix is
     different and that's good, but I don't like it.  The Happiest Girl (...
     mix) is OK.  I'll give this lots of listens.
    
    Got to go.  (Endofdinnerbreak)
    
    Will post more later.
    
    
    matty

    Bought the Ride album Nowhere yesterday on one listening its pretty
    good, its got a really good opening to it.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Andrew Berry	-	Kiss Me I'm Cold 12" (Sounds like Happy
    						Mondays meets James)
    Ben Liebrand	-	Puls(t)ar Club Mix 12" (The old Vangelis
    					track with a slightly naff backing)
    Liquid Oxygen	-	Planet Dance 12" (Really nice wacky bleepy
    					Techno.  And the b-sides great too)
    Sunsonic		-	Kind Of Lovin' 12" (Beloved soundalikes)
    Juno		-	Soul Thunder 12" (LFO's mates bleep from
    				Leeds on Crash record's new label BASS-IC)
    A Tribe Called Quest -	Pubic Enemy/I Left My Wallet In El Segundo
    				12" (Wacky Rap stories, and NO, I didn't mean
    				to type Public Enemy!)
    Gwen Dicky		-	Carwash/Wishing On A Star 12" (Drippy Soul
    				classics that I dislike enormously)
    Various		-	The Jive Jazz Collection 12" (This is a 6
    				tracks sampler of Jazz by African musicians.
    				I don't like Jazz and that's why I'm gonna
    				play this to death till I do.)
    Timedrillers	-	Somebody In The House Say Yeah 12" (Jan,
    				can you tell me about these guys.  The sleeve
   	 			says they come from Holland.  Was it a hit?)
    Lisa M		-	Going Back To My Roots 12" (The a-side is
    				naff (and a cover) and is produced by the
    				Style Council, but the b-side is a House
    				monster.  Mixmag says she's gunna be
    				massive next year.  I doubt it!
    Laibach		-	Across The Universe 12" (Mad Germans on the
    				Mute label.)
    Steady B		-	Let The Hustlers Play 12" (Standard Rap)
    Sam Fox		-	I Wanna Have Some Fun 7" pic disc (This is
    				almost good.  It's written and produced by
    				Full Force and has the `Party People/Can U
    				Party' backing.
    Rick Clark		-	Get Busy 12" (naff soul)
    Cool Down Zone	-	Heaven Knows 12" (Soul II Soul soundalikes)
    
    I've listened to the Charlatans LP twice now and it's pretty naff, but
    I'll post a full review in about a week's time.
    
    Got to go,
    
    
    matty

    
    I've just bought Bona Drag by Morrissey, it seems a bit of a con, only
    one new track to me and if you buy cd singles you'll have that one
    already, had to buy it though to keep the collection 100%.
    
    Tim
    ---
    

    Old Mozz keeps on turning up at gigs at Reading Uni.  I think
    he is recording his new lp somewhere nearby (Hook End?).  Anyone in the
    states have his tour dates yet?
    
    From what i read, he wasn't too impressed with EMIputting Bona  Drag
    outin the UK.
    
    Mikef

    
    Which gigs was he spotted at?
    
    Tim
    ---

    
    The Buzzcocks, and the Mean Fiddler acoustic tour.
    
    Mikef

    
    I went to see Ride last night in Oxford at the Apollo, it was a strange 
    arena, mostly seated with only the front 4 rows taken out for standing,
    we were row K but for some reason security directed us into the
    standing area for the front 4 rows, (they probably couldn't read but I
    wasn't complaining).
    
    Bleach supported, they're not bad and have an EP out on Monday on
    Creation which I'll probably buy.  Ride came on and started with Polar
    Bear, one of the best tracks on their new album, they then went through
    most of the album and the better known tracks from their EPs,Chelsea
    Girl, Drive Blind, Like a Daydream, Taste etc.  They had a new harsher
    sound on some of the songs basically due to the fact that the guitarist
    had a new type of guitar, so I was told by a friend who knows about
    such things.
    
    It was a good gig but the strange arena seemed to change the atmosphere
    comared with other Ride gigs I've been to, they normally play places
    much smaller.  I think it would have been better in an all standing
    venue.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Did you see Happy Mondays on TOTPs???  It's only a matter of time
    before the Happy Mondays either no more or are not selling vinyl.  I
    wish SR would get his bloody hair cut.
    
    Don't like that Innocence record, but the A-Ha records is good.
    
    
    matty

    Bits of news,
    
    Northside	-	My Rising Star, forthcoming single
    Beloved	-	It's Alright Now, forthcoming single (out
    			yesterday!), Peter, is is any good?
    Martin Gore	-	Never Turn Your Back On Mother
    Nature (Bleep and
    			Booster mis), a bootleg.  Can anuone get me this?
    Pet Shop Boys -	Behaviour, new LP (Being Boring is the next single)
    Wendell Willliams - Everybody (808 State remix 12" out now)
    Maria Mckee	-	To Miss Someone (forthcoming single)
    Shamen	-	En Tact (LP, out now)  anyone got this yet??
    St Etienne	-	Kiss And Make Up (Pete Heller remix, out now)
    
    Beautiful South are No1 in the UK singles chart (Hurrah!, go buy the
    last LP)
    MC Hammer is No1 in the US LP charts for about the 4th year running!
    
    And I'd just like to say that I hate that Technotronic Megamix (It's
    worse than that Status Quo/Jive Bunny Duo thingy) and also that Whitney
    Houston song, `Let's make a song with a Soul II Soul beat and put the
    word Ecstacy in the lyrics every 5 seconds' (Paul Oakenfold mix).
    
    
    matty

    Just bought 
    
    Cornerstones - Jimi Hendrix, thought it was about time I added some to
                   my collection.
    
    Eclipse EP - Bleach, a new Creation band I saw supporting Ride last
                 week, they were pretty good.
    
    Tim
    ---

    Jan, Not heard any of that stuff except the A Guy Called Gerald -
    Automannik.
    
    The Inner City record is out on a 2nd UK 12" with various mixes
    including a Techno City mix.  Sounds interesting.
    
    
    matty

    More Beloved News;
    
    It's Alright Now is backed with Scarlet Beautiful (Naked & Foxy) and
    the new LP is to be called `Blissed Out'.
    
    For those who haven't heard Scarlet Beautiful you really ought to get
    this track.  It is better than anything the Pet Shop Boys ever did.
    
    matty

    Dee-Lite's new single will be `The Power Of Love', out on monday.

    Matty, where is Scarlet... available?
    
    Tim
    ---

    >Dee-Lite's new single will be `The Power Of Love', out on monday.
    
    This must surely make this title the most popular of all time.  Let me
    see there was Frankie Goes to Holloywood, Huey Lewis and the News and
    Barbara Dickson (?) at least.
    

    Jennifer Rush....

    Scarlet Beautiful is the b-side of the new single (though I don't know
    what the mix is like) and is also on the LP `Happiness' which is also
    bloody good.
    
    matty

    "Scarlet Beautiful, with your eyes of blue,
     Got to tell you that I'm in love with you,
     My angel, Innocent, Saint,
     Innocent maybe, but angel you ain't.
     I know, it's just gets better each time.
     Must be love, love, love, love, love, love,
    
    etc."
    
    Tim, I still owe you a review of your
    Music-Mag-Thingy-With-Gedgie_In-It!
    Coming shortly to an ALL-IN-1 account near you!
    
    matty

    I recognise it now, I've got the album, I never remember track names,
    or should I say had my tape is broken now so I'm Belovedless at the moment.
    
    Yes it is a good track.
    
    Looking foward to the review (I think)
    
    Tim
    ---  

    It WILL be a good review - and hopefully constructive too...

>>>    so I'm Belovedless at the moment.

	Look at lots of TV, "The Sun Rising" is being used for an Alpen ad!
	Now all we have to do is persuade British Airways to use "Up, up and 
	away", Nescafe to use "Wake up soon", ...   :-)

-Brian.

    Swatch could use Time after Time. =8*)
    
    Tim
    ---

    British Telecom coulf use Hello :-)
    
    Tim
    ---

    More news;
    
    There's a new Indie/Pop compilation called `Happy Daze' coming out. 
    It's got loads of good stuff on it, but those who buy stuff by the
    Mondays, Inspirals, Primals etc will have most of it already.
    
    The PSB album has a very nice cover.
    
    Kim Appleby (of Mel & Kim) will be top 5.
    
    PWEI `Cure For Sanity' is the new LP out now.
    
    The A-Ha LP is supposed to be naff - cliche city!
    
    The Beautiful South's LP is called `Choke', out on Monday
    
    Inspirals have a new EP called `Island Head' out on Bonfire night/day.
    (4 tracks, plus there will be a live EP with 3 tracks on it)
    
    808 State realease `Cubik Olympic State' on Monday.  This must be a mix
    of `Cubik' and `Olympic State'.
    
    The High's new LP `Somewhere Soon' is out Nov 5.  First 5,000 copies
    are gatefold sleeved.
    
    Prince releases `New Power Generation' on Monday.
    
    Rhythmatic release `Frequency'/`Demons' and the 12" features the
    so-called Techno classic (I think it's naff) `Take Me Back'.
    
    The Orb release `Little Fuffy Clouds'.
    
    The Deee-Lite track is called `Power Of Life' (not Love) - probably my
    fault.
    
    Blue Pearl release `Little Brother'
    
    Janet Jackson is No1 in the US with `Black Cat'.  MC Hammer is STILL
    No1 in the LP chart.  (There must be a lot of people in America for
    this to sell so many - have they got 3 copies each or what?)
    
    Paul Simon is No1 in the UK LP chart.  How come no-one has mentioned
    Paul Simon???
    
    Das ist das.
    
    
    matty

    Anyone found the new Cure lp today?  It hasn't reached the backwaters
    of Basingstoke yet.
    
    Northside were great last night at the UNI.  They played for about 45
    minutes, and some of the stuff sounded a bit samey, but for a baggy
    boogie evening it was great!  
    They played the coffee lounge, rather than the main hall, which made
    for an intimate evening.
    
    PWEI are there next week, but I'm off to see Roger Mcgough at the town
    hall instead that evening.
    
    There seem to be an awfull lot of old Black Sabbath albums in the Our
    Price sales at the moment - anyone know why?  Maybe the distributors
    are getting rid of old stock.  I might pick up Sold Our Souls cheap
    this weekend.
    
    Mikef
    
    
    

Mike,

I would go and see PWEI ... I have a review to put in from last weeks gig
in Edinburgh.

Thought you were great in last weeks Juke Box Jury ... and this week they
played your new single "Dig for Fire".

2 excellent songs on JBJ last night ... EMF and I forgot the other one ...
similar to De La Soul.

    Thanks Stuart, Hope you liked the video.
    
    Maybe I could wander up to catch PWEI afterwards?  ho hum.  Heard bad
    things about the new lp tho.
    
    mikef

    BTW - the new poppies lp is already out, said to be a slow grower, but
    not in the same league as This is This.
    Mikef

    Record obtained at the weekend;
    
    Various	-	Rage Radio Rave		Cassette
    	This is a free cassette - comes with the new Rage magazine.  The
    mag's not bad but the cassette is awful.  Includes covers of `Running
    Up That Hill' by Blue Pearl and `Family Affair' by Yazz.
    
    Model 500	-	Ocean to Ocean		12"PS
    	This has 2 really great tracks on the b-side.  Kraftwerk meets
    J.M.Jarre with a bit of a House beat.  The a-side is a bit off.
    
    Madonna	-	Hanky Panky		12"PS
    	I can't get the picture out of my head - all this women in the
    nightclubs all dancing together to the remix of this!
    
    Miltown Brothers -	Apple Green		12"PS
    	I expected a lot of this, but they song exactly like REM.  Rip off!
    
    The Legend	-	Champion megamix/Raze Megamix	12"PS
    	This is an OK Mix of some really good House tracks, but I've heard
    most of the tracks a thousand time already, so the excitement factor is
    zero.
    
    ACR		-	Won't Stop Loving You	12"PS
    	One mix by Barney from New Order and one fron Norman Cook.  Both
    great and both a hell of a lot better than the edit versions.  Good
    track.  Should've been a hit.
    
    49'ers	-	Don't You Love Me	12"PS
    	Italio House - what can I say.  It'll be useful if I become a DJ,
    but I won't listen to it again for pleasure.
    
    Claire Hamill -	Someday We Will All Be Together	7"PS
    	Go out and buy this now!  It's in the bargain box in Hot Waxx for
    50p.  Basically it's a woman singing over the top of part of Pachebel's
    `Cannon in D'.  The b-side is a 7.5 minutes long instrumental version. 
    I can't stop playing this.
    
    New Order	-	Ceremony	12" in green sleeve
    	Dead chuffed to get this.  Never seen it on sale before.  BTW
    there's Part 1 of a New Order feature in Record Collector.
    
    Joy Division -	Atmosphere/She's Lost Control	12" original
    	Dead chuffed to get the original of this for 2.99.  I've seen it
    going for up to 15.00 in some places.  Great tracks both sides.
    
    The Beloved	-	Time After Time	7"
    	I got this for the different mix on the b-side.  I really like most
    of the Beloved's songs, but I really hate most of their mixes.
    
    PWEI	-	Touched By The Hand Of Ciccolina 7"
    	I was expecting this to be good - it was naff.  My little siste
    could do better, and she's into A-Ha!  Can U Dif It?
    
    Pixies	-	Velouria	7"
    	I'd not heard this before.  It turned out to be OK, but I'm not
    gong to wear out the stylus playing it.
    
    The Shamen	-	En Tact		LP Limited Edition.
    	Best till last.  It's limited edition because it comes as 2 x 45rpm
    discs instead of the one at 33rpm.  It also has a poster.  Both formats
    of the LP have a really good textured cover.  Buy it for the cover. 
    The music is pretty good too.  10 tracks including Paul Oakenfold's mix
    of `Pro-Gen' (Everyone has to own this - it's a classic), a new version
    of `Make It Mine' (Just spent 3 weeks at No42) and a previous single
    `Omega Amigo'.  All the other tracks are basically the same 125BPM
    speed, some with beats, a few without, but it's all upfroninyerface
    synth noises in typical Shamen style.  The Shamen we be massive, so
    hook on to them now.
    
    
    matty

    Matty, agree with you about the Rage mag thing.  I bought it because I
    expected a track by the Orb, and only got a few seconds worth.  i think
    the mag is worth avoiding, seems to be aimed at an early teens market -
    have you read the letters page??
    Mikef
    
    I've just been shopping.

    I've read the letters page too!  I thought some of the articles were a
    good idea, like the AIDS awareness, and talking about the Fakes thing. 
    I'd would be nice if mags like this would last, because it seems to be
    aiming at educating, whereas Smash Hits for instance turns 'em into
    zombies.  It won't last though.  Record Mirror is still the best!
    
    matty (who is dying to get the PSB album, but is skint - all donations
    will be extremely welcome :} is that the right sign?  Someone please
    sent me the signs!

RE :-3

Surely it's not the original ATMOSPHERE on the French label, but the re-issued
version (white cover with picture of trees) ...

    I haven't bought any records this week, I'm feeling withdrawal symptoms
    
    Tim
    ---
    
    =8*(

    RE-3,
    
    You're right.  It is the one with the trees.  Inexperience again! 
    What's the story of all the realeases of Atmosphere then?
    
    Jan,  anything good will do!  November's Mixmag is out too - do you
    want it?
    
    Tim, What does =8*( mean?
    
    I actually spent my first weekend in Warrington (I've been here 6
    months!)  I went to Legends - the Friday Alternative.  They played all
    sorts of Smiths type songs that I'd never heard.  No Baggy Manc like I
    was hoping, no New Order, or Joy Division.  They did play PWEI `Wise Up
    Sucker' and Jesus Jones `Info Freako', but I won't go there again in a
    hurry.  In the middle of all that this record came on with a whopping
    Houseish/Fool's Goldish beat and guitars and acid noises.  I ran up to
    the DJ to ask him what it was.  I was Paris Angels.  Can't remember the
    title but it was the one with the Orange cover and the nut/seed thingy
    in the middle.
    
    Some good shops in Manchester.  Vinyl Exchange was a bit expensive -
    Stone Roses `So Young' 12" promo autographed at 100 quid, U2 `Another
    Day' yellow vinyl at 90 quid.  Got sick of people offering me drugs in
    Eastern Bloc.  Great shop over the road from there.
    
    BTW.  Vanilla Ice is No1 in the US.  Is Vanilla Ice a cross between
    Milli Vanilli and Ice Cube??? humour sign.
    
    
    matty

    The PAris Angels thing is Perfume (I think), and is brilliant. 
    Possibly.
    
    Wasn't Atmosphere origninally released in France on the Sordide
    Sentimental label, with a different track on the other side (Dead
    Souls?).  Something like that anyway.
    
    Mikef

    Matty
    
    =8*( is a sad face, turn your head sideways.
    
    I've got the Paris Angels, I really liked it and played it to death
    when it came out, they've got a new single out, I can't remember the
    title but I don't think its as good as Perfume (All On You).
    
    Tim
    ---

    re: .567
    
    Sordide Sentimental also re-released Warsaw's 'An Ideal For Living'
    in 1982 or something. Anyway, most of the label's releases are now
    collectors since the label went bankrupt (label boss Yann Farcy
    had good taste, but was some kind of a swindler).
    
    Christophe.

   < Note 611.567 by SHAPES::FIDDLERM >

>>  Wasn't Atmosphere origninally released in France on the Sordide
>>  Sentimental label, with a different track on the other side (Dead
>>  Souls?).  Something like that anyway.

    Spot on, Mike!  The 'b' side was 'Dead Souls', and original copies
    are purportedly worth something close to a hundred quid (beware
    of clever counterfeits though).

    So what was the timescale between the French release and the one I have
    (with the trees)?
    
    What's the story on `An Ideal For Living'?  I've seen all sorts of
    formats from 5.49 upwards?
    
    
    matty

>>    What's the story on `An Ideal For Living'?  

	This is easily confused with "An ideal beginning", which is an
	easily available rip-off. It contains no tracks from "An ideal
	for living" at all, it includes material previously available
	on compilations.

    Supa-pa-pa Trou-pa-pa lights are gonna blind me!
    
    Have you heard Erasure's versions of Gimme Gimme Gimme?  You ought to
    if you can stand the fact that it's a bloke singing!
    
    matty

    BIG FAVOUR NEEDED!!!
    
    I'd like the words to `Going Down' by the Stone Roses.  I can make out
    about 95% of it.  For instance;
    
    `Dog sings in the garden, phone sings in the hall,
     This boy's dead from teenage life, resurrected by the call.
     Penny here we've gotta come, some come on round to me,
     There's too much pity lying here to touch this man's XXX'
    
    What's the XXX.  If anyone can send me the lyric I would extremely
    grateful - I might even send you a Christmas present!
    
    
    matty

    I went into HMV today and saw an album called The Best Of Matt Bianco
    
         Isn't that a contradiction in terms =:-)
    
    Tim
    ---

    When I saw the advert, I thought it was for a 7" single...;-)
    
    Mikef
    
    PS - anyone else grooving to Mixed up?