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Conference decwet::winnt-clusters

Title:	WinNT-Clusters
Notice:	Info directories moved to DECWET::SHARE1$:[NT_CLSTR]
Moderator:	DECWET::CAPPELLOF

Created:	Thu Oct 19 1995
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	863
Total number of notes:	3478

721.0. "Where is Marketing ??" by OTOU01::MAIN (Systems Integration-Canada,621-5078) Sat Mar 29 1997 17:40

    
    Big Cluster article in latest InformationWeek. Reference:
    http://techweb.cmp.com/iw/623/23olser.htm
    
    DIGITAL is not even mentioned in entire article. We appear to be
    out in the cold as far as marketing our NT Cluster capabiilities.
    This article must have been written with Tandem input, but ???
    
    Could it be that at the official DIGITAL Windows home page there
    is not a single reference to NT Clusters or Alpha ? Nice picture
    of a laptop and monkey though :-( 
    
    OK, so lets play as a Customer trying to find out info on DIGITAL's
    NT Clusters. Go to www.windows.digital.com - no pointer. Ok, guess
    at Products button - good guess. Now, the Cust see's press release
    announcing DIGITALs V1.0 SP1 software press release (no mention of
    V1.1 at all on page)... Did we not release a press release on V1.1?
    If so, why is not here?
    
    This is what the market is hearing more and more now ie. quote
    from article:
    
    "Microsoft is attempting to develop standards in operating system 
    support through the Wolfpack technology. Using code it licensed 
    from Tandem, Microsoft is extending Windows NT to support 
    clustering. Wolfpack Phase I is scheduled for release this summer."
    
    In addition, the following negaitive comment about Clustering in
    general:
    
    "A significant negative aspect to clustering is that all clusters now
    shipping are proprietary in both hardware and software, resulting in
    relatively high cost and a limited number of applications written for 
    those proprietary platforms. "
    
    I still believe we should take the high road and support some 3rd
    party vendor systems other than our own, but that issue has been
    beaten to death before ..sigh.. we continue to have a proprietary
    product just like the others ..
    
    My apologies if this appeared negative, but it's really frustrating
    from a field perspective to know you have good products, but then 
    not see any marketing to support them.
    
    Regards,
    
    <as he puts on his hard hat>
    
    / Kerry

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
721.1	Same old story	COPS02::WHITE		`Sat Mar 29 1997 22:19`	10
	it's probably safe to say that you are preaching to the Choir on this. I was looking for some information on support disk drives and found the list I has was more updated then the one on our web page. I guess our web page must not get much traffic, thus we see no need to update ? My .02 Dale
721.2	Some story !	ZPOPPN::CSNMURALI		`Mon Mar 31 1997 01:06`	11
	I believe the Sorageworks pages have more information on Digital Clusters for WNT. re .0, I would send an email to Information week, asking them to refer to articles on Clusters / Wolfpack on Windows NT Magazine August 1996 issue. (Also telling them that we do have clustering products, and tell them that we are working closely with Microsoft on the Wolfpack team, they may also refer to the Wolfpack team blah blah blah ... - Murali
721.3	You think ANYBODY listens?	TAMIR::SHALOM		`Mon Mar 31 1997 03:39`	11
	Kerry, You are a naughty boy. We agreed that Marketing is the NULL group. We agreed we are not going to waste breath or keystrokes , because nobody listens, and a VICE PRESIDENT has the nerve to stand before us and say "i am just a Nerd". (Mr. Scott Cutler, Wizards meeting before wizards go to work as Circus hands). Life is beautiful. Spring is coming. Weekends are lovely. Shalom
721.4	ho humm	CHEFS::ATTWOOL_J		`Wed Apr 02 1997 09:49`	7
	.... yep... not worth it. I've already backspaced on the line I was going to write. :^) jka
721.5	frustration 101 ...	OTOU01::MAIN	Systems Integration-Canada,621-5078	`Tue Apr 15 1997 05:39`	16
	Well, good news, bad news on NT Cluster marketing update.. Good news is that NT Clusters V1.1 is mentioned in the "hot flash" on DIGITAL's home page..Also, Alpha word finally appears on on our Cust windows home page.. (www.windows.digital.com) Bad news is that previous V1.1 info on DIGITAL home page has a "click here for additional details" and it brings the reader to the NT Cluster home page which only has Nt cluster 1.0 + SP info .. oh well.. :-( / Kerry
721.6	he said, dodging the bullets	BALTMD::LEARY		`Wed Apr 16 1997 01:34`	7
	Digital's NT Clusters Product is in search of a new marketing manager since Bob Guilbert is off to Europe on a new assignment. Guess we'll have to deal with Eddie the chimp ... Monkey on your back number 10,231 ... Digital has NO NT Clusters Marketing :-{ INCOMING !!!!
721.7	Humour timeout ..	OTOU01::MAIN	Systems Integration-Canada,621-5078	`Wed Apr 16 1997 03:01`	8
	New marketing strategy - picture Eddy the chimp with caption underneath "I liked the company so much, I bought the company.." :-) / Kerry
721.8	Update - WEB page much better now ...	OTOU01::MAIN	Systems Integration-Canada,621-5078	`Sun Apr 20 1997 23:33`	15
	Update - the DIGITAL windows page (www.windows.digital.com) now has the NT Cluster V1.1 announcement and a pointer to the UPDATED Windows NT cluster page .. looking much better now - can't believe it, but PCBU actually allowed the Alpha word on it's NT / Windows home page ! Thx to those responsible for the update.. just sent a few CompuServe types at the updated page. :-) Regards, / Kerry
721.9		BALTMD::LEARY		`Tue Apr 22 1997 09:18`	9
	re -1 "but PCBU actually allowed the Alpha word on it's NT / Windows home page" We 'r' Them and They 'r' Us ... ain't life wonderful :-) Now we can actually sell the customer what they want ... well almost.