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Conference decwet::winnt-clusters

Title:WinNT-Clusters
Notice:Info directories moved to DECWET::SHARE1$:[NT_CLSTR]
Moderator:DECWET::CAPPELLOF
Created:Thu Oct 19 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:863
Total number of notes:3478

778.0. "share disks be offline" by NNTPD::"sunwei@mail.dec.com" () Wed Apr 30 1997 15:13

Who can help me ?

  I have installed NTcluster v1.0 on alphaworkstation XL 266 on NT v3.51 and 
service pack 5.Hardwares include kzpsa-bb,BA356-KC,RZ28M-VW,DWZZ-VW and SCSI
equipments and 
networks.

   but share disks is offline and configuration information not available see
in disk administrator when boot one member
to NT. When finish install cluster and start Cluster administrator,get one
error
message " do not find Cfmd log files path,cluster server not on other server
......",then cluster administrator can not start.

I am guess : May be have been both NT server wrote signatures to shared disks.
May be this action have damage disks's information or physical disks.

 Who can tell me how to solve the problem?


   WEI SUN
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778.1LJSRV1::GOODMANWed Apr 30 1997 20:421
Digital Clusters is not supported on an AlphaWorkstation.  
778.2MPOS01::naiad.mpo.dec.com::mpos01::cerlingI'm@witz.endWed Apr 30 1997 21:0418
	Even though the Alpha XLs are not supported, that is what I run my
	demo system on all the time.  Works fine.  (If I could get a pair of
	supported systems, I would use them, but you know that cobbler's kids
	don't get shoes; but they still try to sell them.)

	Are you absolutely, positively sure that you followed the installation
	instructions to the letter?  Could you access the shared disk from 
	either system (with the other one powered off) before installing the
	cluster software?  If you couldn't access it before installing the
	software, don't expect to be able to access it after installing the
	software.  Did you make sure you are using different SCSI ids for the
	the two host systems?

	The only time I have had problems with my system is when I tried to
	short-cut some installation instructions.

tgc
778.3NNTPD::"sunwei@mail.dec.com"Thu May 01 1997 02:0313
Thank you help me ! I make sure SCSI host adapter ids one is 6 and other is 7.
I can see share disks in console.But why can't partition share disks on disk
administrator
when only one server power on run windows NT ? May be scsi bus is OK if can
see share disk on 
disk administrator.I don't know whether NT's disk administrator just see
offline share disks if NT have
 been wrote signatures .If that right,how to delete this signatures? What are
the signatures.Where are write?


    wei sun
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778.4MPOS01::naiad.mpo.dec.com::mpos01::cerlingI'm@witz.endThu May 01 1997 22:3313
	You will not be able to see the disks to do anything to them until
	you define them in a failover group within the Cluster Administrator.
	The part that had me confused about your installation was that in your
	base note you say that you can't get the Administrator to run.  It
	should run fine even though one of the nodes is down.  You will get
	error messages informing you of that fact, but if you okay those 
	messages, the administrator starts.  Because you are saying that you
	can't get the administrator started, I am assuming that something
	else is wrong in your system.  Did you create the ClusterAdmin account
	with Login as Service privileges and Domain Administration?

tgc
778.5NNTPD::"sunwei@mail.dec.com"Fri May 02 1997 01:4719
Thank you help me !

   I have created one account( ClusterAdmin ,it domain admini group member).
But get one error message when start cluster administrator :
   " The Cfmd log path is not defined. Cfmd server detects that the Cfmd 
server on the other nods is not available.In this case,it needs to log the
 changes to a log file.but it does not know about the log path to write the
log path to write the log". Cluster four services are running when checked 
services on control panel .Then Dr.Watson have error message:"An application 
error has occurred and an application error log is being generated.
ntcluster.exe"

cluster administrator can not start.

I am guess : May be have been both NT server wrote signatures to shared disks.
May be this action have damage disks's information or physical disks.


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778.6Both nodes running?NNTPD::"Nilssons@mail.dec.com"Sven NilssonFri May 02 1997 05:1322
Hello.

Have You rebooted BOTH nodes after cluster install?

Are BOTH nodes up and running?
Are the 4 Cluster services running on BOTH nodes?
(Check via control panel -> services)

ClusterAdmin account..Log in as a Service, on both nodes?

Your network working? Do the clusternodes see each other
on the network, connect shares on local drive..and so on?

Until You have managed to create Your first 
failover group, you will not have any Cluster log disk,
that is why cluster must be running on both nodes in
order to do cluster management.

Your problem is NOT to do with signatures on drives.

regards/Sven in the ceNTer of Sweden
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778.7NNTPD::"sunwei@mail.dec.com"Fri May 02 1997 06:3145
Hello!
First thank you give me point!

Have You rebooted BOTH nodes after cluster install?

sunwei: Yes

Are BOTH nodes up and running?

sunwei: Yes

Are the 4 Cluster services running on BOTH nodes?
(Check via control panel -> services)

sunwei: Yes

ClusterAdmin account..Log in as a Service, on both nodes?

sunwei: Yes,is log on as service of user rights.


Your network working? Do the clusternodes see each other
on the network, connect shares on local drive..and so on?

sunwei: Yes,One node can connect other node's CDROM drive


Until You have managed to create Your first 
failover group, you will not have any Cluster log disk,
that is why cluster must be running on both nodes in
order to do cluster management.

Your problem is NOT to do with signatures on drives.

sunwei: I think may be is the problem.But how can rewrite and clear signatures
to
share disks? .I have been try to install windows NT server on one node and 
not install cluster software and not boot other node ,then share disks still
Offline when start disk 
administrator to see share disks. I think can not write signatures to share
disks.

Best Regards!
 wei sun
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778.8MPOS01::lurelap.mpo.dec.com::CerlingCall on the CalvaryFri May 02 1997 12:5410
	I doubt very much that it has to do with the signature.  I have
	created clusters where I defined the disks on a single node before
	installing clusters - and then defining them across the cluster
	after it was installed.  And I have created clusters where I 
	installed the software before first accessing the shared disks.

	What does the log file in \Program Files\Digital\Cluster contain?

tgc
778.9LJSRV1::BOURQUARDDeb Walz BourquardFri May 02 1997 13:592
also try the cluivp utility -- it can help you detect
installation and configuration problems.
778.10HGOM22::WEISUNFri May 02 1997 23:439
      I have been checked \Program Files\Digital\Cluster\temp and it
    include log files.
    But share disks is new disks,never partiton on it.Could you tell me
    what mean about 
    log file error message?
       How to use cluivp utility?I never use cluivp utility.
    
    Thank your!
    wei sun
778.11How to run cluivpDECWET::KOWALSKIOfficial Beer Test DummieMon May 05 1997 12:154
    From command prompt windows, with the cluster software running,
    conconcurrently run cluivp on each node.
    
    Mark