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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

776.0. "Questions for a "New" Minister?" by JUPITR::HILDEBRANT (I'm the NRA) Thu Dec 02 1993 12:53

    Next week, we are going to vote on a new minister to our church
    (Congregational). Our previous minister resigned...interesting story,
    but not for this forum.......
    
    We will have an informal coffee hour saturday night, followed by
    a church service/sermon from him...then a formal vote to accept him
    into our church.
    
    I have never meet this person or his family. What would you folks
     look for or what questions would you ask of a potential minister?
    
    Marc H.
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776.1sense of humorTFH::KIRKa simple songThu Dec 02 1993 12:578
Number one thing I'd look for: a sense of humor.

Changing pastors is a very difficult thing.  I'll be praying for you and your 
parish.  (Is that the Congregational Church in Shrewsbury?)

Peace,

Jim
776.2a few questionsCVG::THOMPSONWho will rid me of this meddlesome priest?Thu Dec 02 1993 13:0316
    
    Agree with Jim on a sense of humor. Absolute requirement. He should
    especially be able to laugh at himself. A minister who takes himself
    too seriously or as above humor is likely to be a problem.

    I'd tend to expect that a search committee would have asked questions
    alone the lines of their theology, definition of Christianity, etc and
    found the answers in agreement with the majority of the church.
    Hopefully you'll also get some of that from his sermon as well.
    
    Questions I'd ask:

    What does he see as the role of the minister? A parishioner? What is the
    role of the church to and in the community? 
    
    		Alfred
776.3JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAThu Dec 02 1993 13:3410
    RE: .1
    
    Jim,
     The church location is Grafton, Ma.
    
    RE: .1  & .2
    
    Good idea on the sense of humor.....we all could use more of it!
    
    Marc H.
776.4CSC32::J_CHRISTIEInciting PeaceThu Dec 02 1993 14:2922
    What I would ask, given enough time:
    
    Tell me about your call to the ministry.  How has your understanding
    of your call changed over time, if it has?
    
    What would you cite as your particular gifts, talents, strengths and
    weaknesses as a pastor and as a Christian?
    
    Do you routinely take time exclusively for your family?
    
    Of what importance in your ministry is the social gospel? (I can almost
    guarantee you that a UCC candidate will know what this means, Marc.)
    
    You'll doubtlessly pick up a lot from the candidate's resume and
    statements of faith and mission.
    
    Ask particularly about the areas that you believe need strengthening
    in your church; youth ministry, music, family support, dealing with
    addictions, cohesion in church leadership, etc..
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
776.5JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAThu Dec 02 1993 16:116
    RE: .4
    
    THanks...O.K., I'll admit that I'm "new" to the UCC. What do you mean
    by the social gospel?
    
    Marc H.
776.6CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be readyThu Dec 02 1993 16:3325
.    Do you routinely take time exclusively for your family?
    
     
     A key question.  No church should question a pastor's desire to
     do so (though I have seen them that do).  One of the things I love
     about my pastor is his commitment to his family, one of the most loving
     and supportive I have encountered.

     I'd also wonder about his commitment to evangelizing the community,
     and discipling those who are, and his role in firing up the membership
     to get involoved in this critical piece of any ministry. 

     I think someone mentioned the outreach to the young people, and I would
     add also the outreach to the old folks either in their homes or in local
     nursing homes regardless of church member ship.

    

  





   
776.7The social gospelCSC32::J_CHRISTIEInciting PeaceFri Dec 03 1993 00:1215
    .5 Marc,
    
    I would describe the social gospel as putting legs under your prayers
    instead of expecting them to walk all by themselves. 8-)
    
    In the best sense, the social gospel is exemplified in Rev. Dr.
    Martin Luther King, Jr., Albert Schweitzer, Rev. William Sloan Coffin,
    Jim Douglass, Frs. Daniel and Philip Berrigan, Dorothy Day, Elizabeth
    Fry, and Bishop Thomas Gumbelton.
    
    Also, see topics 475 and 66.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
776.8JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAFri Dec 03 1993 11:506
    re: .7
    
    Well, in general I agree with the idea. I'm not sure that I agree
    with all your choices, though.
    
    Marc H.
776.9CSC32::J_CHRISTIEInciting PeaceFri Dec 03 1993 14:1415
    .8  On the plus side, the social gospel prevents a church from
    becoming hopelessly privatized and ingrown.
    
    The social gospel may be as innocuous and unoffensive to our
    sensibilities as running a food pantry, providing pastoral care
    to a nursing home or hospital, or even volunteering at one of
    the Ronald McDonald Houses.
    
    It doesn't always have to be as dramatic and risky as the witness
    of those mentioned in .7.  A couple of local UCC pastors have
    gone out on a lonely limb for the sake of the (whole) gospel.
    
    Peace,
    Richard
    
776.10CSC32::J_CHRISTIEInciting PeaceSat Dec 04 1993 01:345
    .0  Let us know what happens, if you will, Marc.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
776.11JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAMon Dec 06 1993 11:219
    re: .10
    
    Will do Richard. My first face to face meeting will be 12/11. The 
    "trial" sermon is on 12/12, followed by a congregational vote
    later that morning.
    
    Should be interesting......
    
    Marc H.
776.12JUPITR::HILDEBRANTI'm the NRAMon Dec 13 1993 11:5310
    Well, the congregation voted in the new minister. Finally, the church
    can get refocused onto the future. Also, the interim pastor can
    continue her advanced degree.
    
    We also finished the re-hab of our new ( 1830's) parsonage...just in
    time for the new minister. Thanks for the interesting comments  I
    received. They helped me when I talked to the minister and listened to
    his sermon.
    
    Marc H.