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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

937.0. "Committees" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (Heat-seeking pacifist) Wed Jun 15 1994 19:35

Committees: An entity that keeps minutes and wastes hours.

All of the churches to which I've ever belonged have depended heavily
on committees.  I'm not very fond of committees.  I find committee
meetings boring and tedious.

How do others feel about committees and committee meetings?

Shalom,
Richard

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937.1SUBURB::ODONNELLJJulie O'DonnellWed Jun 15 1994 22:5411
    It depends on the Chair, I suppose. I hate committee meetings too. They
    so often meander along and get caught up with totally irrelevant
    issues. If you've got a strong Chairperson, then gossiping and
    irrelevancy are kept to a minimum and I for one feel as though we're
    actually achieving something!
    
    The ones I REALLY hate are the annual ones where the the finances and
    reports are gone into. Why DO they insist on reading the Finance
    report at full length? Guaranteed to go straight over most people's
    heads and dull their intellects for the duration of the meeting (perhaps
    that's why they do it :-))
937.2BUDDRY::J_CHRISTIEHeat-seeking pacifistThu Jun 16 1994 01:0310
    The Chair is important.  However, I've found that committee members
    can be influential in keeping matters on track even when the Chair
    is less than skillful.
    
    Part of the meeting time should be given to community-building, I think.
    There's something very cold about attending strictly to business.
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
937.3My view on committees.VNABRW::BUTTONAnother day older and deeper in debtThu Jun 16 1994 07:595
    	A saying which reflects my experience with committees:
    
    	A camel is a horse which was designed by a committee.
    
    	Greetings, Derek.
937.4at work or at churchTFH::KIRKa simple songThu Jun 16 1994 12:327
Another tidbit of committee lore...

"Any meeting that lasts longer than half an hour is a waste of time."

.-)

Jim
937.5random thoughtsSOLVIT::HAECKDebby HaeckThu Jun 16 1994 13:4915
    At a seminar a month or so back (How To Be An Inviting Church), one of
    the suggestions was to end every meeting with a post-mortem.  Was the
    meeting useful?  Did it get side tracked?  How could that have been
    avoided?

    At our small parish (average weekly attendance is 20-30) we have
    "mushroom" committees.  These spring up when needed and are harvested
    when their job is done.  

    When I was on vestry in '83-'87, the meetings would last for 3 or 4
    hours.  This time, '91-present, we had a Senior Warden who was adamant
    that meetings end at 9:30.  (They started at 7:30.)  He would get up
    and walk out at 9:30.  Since we wanted him to be there for any voting,
    we learned to have all business discussed and tabled, moved on or
    otherwise acted on before 9:30.
937.6CSC32::J_CHRISTIEHeat-seeking pacifistFri Jun 17 1994 21:525
    A sign posted in the office at my church:
    
    		"No one of us is as smart as all of us."
    
    
937.7SUBURB::ODONNELLJJulie O'DonnellFri Jun 24 1994 09:0716
    > Part of the meeting time should be given to community-building, I think.
    > There's something very cold about attending strictly to business.
    
    I agree.
    
    I just re-read my reply, and I think it sounded a bit draconian!
    I don't sit there with a whip in hand "You must attend to the point in
    question", honestly!  
    
    What I really meant was those meetings where nothing seems to get done
    and we just seem to spend hours gossiping about trivial things. Where I 
    live, we seem to discuss each other's and everyone else's lifestories at 
    the least encouragement. This is nice over the garden fence or in the shop
    (store) or at the bus-stop, but it gets a bit frustrating in a meeting
    discussing no. 23's new net curtains or Mrs. Brown's youngest's latest
    boyfriend or whatever. 
937.8CSC32::J_CHRISTIEHeat-seeking pacifistMon Jun 27 1994 00:304
    .7  Indeed, I agree with you.
    
    Richard
    
937.9AIMHI::JMARTINMon Jun 27 1994 20:5211
    I get a real kick out of these meetings where the mode of transacting 
    the business has been carried since the days of Thomas
    Jefferson...Business meeting protocol if you will!!
    
    We have a resolution set forth on the plan to....do we have a motion.
    All for, show by uplifted hands...opposed the same...the motion is
    carried...
    
    NOBODY TALKS LIKE THAT ANYMORE!!!!
    
    -Jack