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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
Notice:Prostitutes and tax collectors welcome!
Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

799.0. "Is everything unnatural sinful?" by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE (On loan from God) Fri Dec 17 1993 18:22

Is everything "unnatural" necessarily sinful?

What about computers?  How "natural" are they?

How about motor vehicle transportation?  air conditioning?  television?
motion pictures?

Do we, as Christians, have an obligation to avoid being complicit that which
is unnatural, man-made, not of God??  What do you think?

Shalom,
Richard

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799.1COMET::DYBENFri Dec 17 1993 18:427
    
    
    I suspect the bible was referring to natural and unnatural in terms of
     human NATURE and not plastics vs homegrown.
    
    
    David
799.2DEMING::SILVAMemories.....Fri Dec 17 1993 18:5411
| <<< Note 799.1 by COMET::DYBEN >>>



| I suspect the bible was referring to natural and unnatural in terms of
| human NATURE and not plastics vs homegrown.

	David, what has led you to believe this?


Glen
799.3COMET::DYBENFri Dec 17 1993 18:595
    
    
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     Logic
799.4THOLIN::TBAKERDOS with Honor!Fri Dec 17 1993 19:1210
RE: .0

>Do we, as Christians, have an obligation to avoid being complicit that which
>is unnatural, man-made, not of God??  What do you think?

You mean like this notesfile?

'Tis perhaps one of the most ungodly things I've encountered ;^)

Tom
799.5COMET::DYBENFri Dec 17 1993 19:158
    
    
    
    > most ungodly things I've encountered
    
    :-) :-)  alas we have concensus(sp)
    
    David
799.6LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&amp;T)Fri Dec 17 1993 19:2711
re Note 799.0 by CSC32::J_CHRISTIE:

> Do we, as Christians, have an obligation to avoid being complicit that which
> is unnatural, man-made, not of God??  What do you think?
  
        Only when it has to do with sex. :-}

        Note how little Christians dwell on the natural vs. unnatural
        when it comes to food, for example.

        Bob
799.7I am a tool builderTFH::KIRKa simple songMon Dec 20 1993 12:0426
I'm reminded me of an old NOVA television show detailing the creation of a new 
snack food.  In England, where some of the story took place, they defined 
"artificial" as a process involving human intervention through chemistry, the
making and breaking of bonds within and between molecules.  "Natural" was any
process that did not; thus you could grind, mold, mix just about anything you 
could lay your hands on and it was still "natural".  For their purpose, it was 
a very useful definition.  I've known many people for whom humans somehow fall
outside of Nature. 

Are humans a part of Nature? a part of Creation?

In Africa there are termite hills over 20 feet tall.  They are built by 
termites of sand and various secretions.  Building them is just something that 
termites *do*.  Few would doubt there existance as natural.  

In many places around the world there are human hills hundreds of feet tall.  
They are built by humans of metal, glass, wood, and stone.  Building them is
just something that humans *do*.  Is their existance any less natural? 

As a Christian, I believe that unlike the termite, for whom I don't believe 
the question ever comes up, humans have the ability to worship their hills.
This is sinful.

Peace,

Jim
799.8JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Dec 20 1993 14:348
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    Excellent reply.
    
    However, before I can answer the question, I need to ask Richard are
    you referring at all to the Biblical usage of natural and unnatural?
    
    Nancy