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Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
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567.0. "Sermon - First Sunday after Christmas" by MR4DEC::RFRANCEY (dtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15) Tue Dec 15 1992 19:16

    My sermon title for the first Sunday after Christmas is:
    
    	"Things clearly aren't what they used to be"
    
    Supporting Scripture:
    
    	Isaiah 63:7-9
    	Psalm 148
    	Hebrews 2:10-18
    	Matthew 2:13-23
    
    The sermon will follow in a few days.  Please feel free to add input
    or ideas.  The passages speak to me in ways for us to celebrate an
    interpretation of the meaning of Christ's birth.
    
    	Shalom,
    
    	Ron
    
    ps: Dot's also preaching on the same Sunday, using the same Scripture. 
    I don't have a clue where she is  with it yet as she's been busy
    finishing papers for seminary.  Next week is her last week of classes
    at seminary, period.  That is, until and if she someday goes on for a
    doctorate.
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567.1CSTEAM::MARTINWed Dec 16 1992 14:1313
    Hi Ron:
    
    In the title, "Things clearly aren't what they used to be", is this on
    the theme that things are better, or worse!  
    
    Psalm 148 speaks of the praises of Gods people - Good
    Matthew 2 speaks of the atrocities of Herod - Bad
    Hebrews 2 speaks of the person of Christ - Good
    Isaiah 63:7-9 speaks of the redeemer and savior - Good
    
    Peace,
    
    Jack
567.2and his name ...MR4DEC::RFRANCEYdtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15Wed Dec 16 1992 17:266
    re .-1 
    
    "For unto YOU a child is born"
    
    	Ron
    
567.3CSTEAM::MARTINWed Dec 16 1992 17:4520
    Hi Ron:
    
    Sounds like Good News!
    
    I heard an interesting point about the famous Isaiah 9 verse.
    
    "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the
    governments of the world will rest upon His shoulders.  And His name
    shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Heavenly Father, The
    Prince of Peace."  Isaiah 9:6
    
    I heard it taught that this is one of the dual prophecies of the O.T. 
    The first part speaks of the 1st coming, i.e. Child is born, Son is
    given...  The next part of the verse speaks of the second coming...And
    the governments of the world will rest upon His shoulders.
    Thought that was quite interesting..never thought of it this way!
    
    Regards,
    
    Jack
567.4Request for updateCSC32::J_CHRISTIEPeace WarriorTue Dec 29 1992 20:035
    So, Ron, how did it go Sunday??
    
    Shalom,
    Richard
    
567.5sermons were received wellMR4DEC::RFRANCEYdtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15Tue Dec 29 1992 21:0531
    Richard,
    
    It went well for both Dot and myself!  I preached from an outline form
    where the purpose of the srmon was to convince the parishioners that
    they could re-enter the areas of theif lives that was blocking them
    from "becoming" all that God meant them to be because Christ was born
    FOR us and had set us free - that Christ gave us the freedom to
    re-enter those difficult times in our lives from a new direction.
    
    This was the first time that I preached before this particular
    congregation; yet, I've been to several of their worship services and
    even a recent square-dance.  My sermon lasted for a half hour and was
    given before a Presbyterian congreagation of about 30 people.
    
    Many of the people approached me after the service and commented that I
    had really touched them and that the message helped them where they
    were.  
    
    I'll enclose my outline and Dot's manuscript in a new base note.
    
    Dot's sermon also went very well and I personally think her's was
    something I only wish I could do.  My sermon seemed to me to highlight
    more of the downside of things with the ligting up we get from Christ.
    
    Her illustrations connect with people in a positive way right from the
    start.
    
    	Shalom,
    
    	Ron
    
567.6Ron's Worship ProgramMR4DEC::RFRANCEYdtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15Tue Dec 29 1992 21:51219





     December 27, 1992                    First Sunday After Christmas
     
                         PREPARATION FOR THE WORD
     
     PRELUDE
     
     WELCOME AND CONCERNS OF THE CHURCH
     
     INTROIT
     
     CALL TO WORSHIP
     
          L: Praise God, all nations!  Extol God, all peoples!
          P: For  great is  God's steadfast  love toward  us; and  the
          faithfulness of God endures for ever.
          L: Great  are your  works, O God, full of honor and majesty.
          Your righteousness endures forever.
          P: Praise be to God.
     
     * HYMN OF PRAISE    "O Come, All Ye Faithful"          #
     
     *CALL TO CONFESSION
     
     *UNISON PRAYER OF CONFESSION:
     
          You give us a vision of a world made new, O God, yet we find
          it so  easy to  abide in the old.  You promise your presence
          among us, yet we seek so often to hide from it.  We continue
          to mourn  for our  own way, though you have promised to wipe
          away the  tears from  our eyes.  When the former things have
          passed away,  will we  still long  for what used to be?  You
          are the  beginning and  the end;  the middle we cling to for
          ourselves.   We confess our nearsightedness and beg for eyes
          open to the new creation.  May we enter the coming year made
          whole by your grace.  Amen.
     















     *ASSURANCE OF FORGIVENESS
     
          L: Anyone  in Christ  becomes a  new person  altogether; the
          past is  finished and  gone, everything has become fresh and
          new.
          All: We  believe the  good news  that in Jesus Christ we are
          forgiven.  Amen.
                                     
     *CONGREGATIONAL RESPONSE    Gloria Patri
     
                         PROCLAMATION OF THE WORD
     
     FIRST READING FROM SCRIPTURE                        Isaiah 63:7-9
     
          L: This is the word of the Lord.
          P: Thanks be to God.
     
     WORD FOR CHILDREN
     
     *HYMN OF MEDITATION    "What Star Is This, With Beams So Bright"
     
          (During this  hymn, children  through Grade  3 may  leave to
          attend Children's Church)
     
     RESPONSIVE PSALTER READING    Psalm 148              (see insert)
     
     SECOND READING FROM SCRIPTURE     Matthew 2:13-23
     
     SERMON    "Things Clearly Aren't What They Used To Be"
     
     
                           RESPONSE TO THE WORD
     
     PRAYERS OF THE PEOPLE
     
















     WORSHIP THROUGH GIVING
     
          *DOXOLOGY                                               #592
     
             Praise God, from whom all blessings flow;
             Praise God, all creatures here below;
             Praise God, above ye heavenly host;
             Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.  Amen.
     
     *HYMN OF PROCLAMATION    "The First Nowell"
     
     *COMMISSION AND BENEDICTION
     
     *POSTLUDE
     
          The *  indicates where  to stand during the service.  Please
          feel free  to remain  seated if that is more comfortable for
          you.

































                      RESPONSIVE PSALTER READING    Psalm 148
            
            L: Praise  the Lord!   Praise  the Lord  from  the  heavens;
            praise him in the heights!
            
            P: Praise him, all his angels; praise him, all his host!
            
            L: Praise  him, sun  and moon;  praise him,  all you shining
            stars!
            
            P: Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the
            heavens!
            
            L: Let  them praise  the name  of the Lord, for he commanded
            and they were created.
            
            P: He  established them  forever and  ever; he  fixed  their
            bounds, which cannot be passed.
            
            L: Praise  the Lord from the earth, you sea monsters and all
            deeps,
            
            P: fire and hail, snow and frost, stormy wind fulfilling his
            command!
            
            L: Mountains and all hills, fruit trees and all cedars!
            
            P: Wild  animals and  all cattle, creeping things and flying
            birds!
            
            L: Kings  of the  earth and  all peoples,  princes  and  all
            rulers of the earth!
            
            P: Young men and women alike, old and young together!
            
            L: Let  them praise the name of the Lord, for his name alone
            is exalted; his glory is above earth and heaven.
            
            P: He  has raised  up a  horn for his people, praise for all
            his faithful, for the people of Israel who are close to him.
            Praise the Lord!



















567.7Ron's Sermon OutlineMR4DEC::RFRANCEYdtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15Tue Dec 29 1992 21:52264





                    "Things Clearly aren't what they used to be":
     
                           Ron Francey: December 27, 1992
     
                     Isaiah 63: 7-9; Psalm 148; Matthew 2:13-23
     
     .  Have you ever experienced that old nostalgic love for something that in
        earlier days you were perhaps glad to be rid of?
     
             .  For men, maybe it's that 1951 Ford or that 1955 Chevy - you know
                - your first car
     
             .  And now, there is that old car again, maybe conjured up in your
                dreams or in the wanderings of your mind - there it is in all         
                its splendor - just waiting to be polished, loved and part of
                your life once more.
     
             .  For women, maybe it's those piano lessons and the long practices
                that Mother made you do and take - maybe you remember using the
                excuse "but MOM! I can't do the dishes and do my practicing!"
     
             .  And now, there you are at your daughter's recital, her dressed        
                up, hair gleaming, excitement bustling in the air, excitement
                around the anticipation to come - and suddenly you feel the
                warmth of those earlier days that had been masked by your
                earlier feelings so many years ago of the sweat and toil that
                went into your practice sessions.
     
             .  There are anchors in our lives of which we're really not often
                cognizant - they are the things of the stuff of life of which
                each of us are made.  Perhaps the anchors can better be               
                understood as seeds lying dormant, needing just a little              
                rainfall.
     
     .  Maybe the "something" that you used to avoid or ran from was more
        intense and disturbing, maybe even threatening - whether real or
        imagined.
     
             .  Maybe it was parents that beat you, that crippled you either
                physically or emotionally
     
             .  Maybe it was friends who betrayed you or lied to you and made it
                such that you no longer trusted any close relationships
     
             .  Maybe it was your own perceived self which you felt was no good,
                not worthy
     
             .  And so you might have run from all these torments of life, run
                completely from all of your family because of embarrassment,
                of not knowing the "howness" or the "rightness" of maintaining
                close family ties when there exists a family crisis which
                threatens the very essence of your understanding of family
                and family values.
     












             .  And perhaps you have run from friends.  You fled from
                close relations because you have been afraid, unnerved at
                your friend's dying because of the deadly AIDS virus; you were
                afraid that you wouldn't know WHAT to say.  Or, perhaps, you
                fled from a friend because you have not been comfortable with
                your friends deformity from a recent terrible automobile
                accident or from a close couple who recently divorced or
                from a woman who recently had her breasts removed because of
                cancer.
     
     .  Knowing and feeling that God is with you through all your life seems to
        be more easy to forget than to remember - especially when you are struck
        by the things of life
     
     .  The OT lesson speaks to that point:
     
                       . of the prologue to the escape FROM Egypt
                       . of the trustworthiness and steadfastness of God
                       . of people making the escape - and continually and            
                         repeatedly forgetting of God's goodness and mercy and
                         presence and patience in the thick of the raging of the
                         battles of life
     
                       . "For He said, 'Surely they are my people, ..., and He
                          became their savior in all their distress.  It was
                          no messenger or angel but his presence that saved
                          them; in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; He
                          lifted them up and carried them all the days of old".
     
             .  And so the people fled from Egypt, a land of tyranny and
                oppression, a land of injustice - they were held and cared for
                by God regardless of their continually forgetting about God's
                righteousness and steadfastness.
     
     .  Quite paradoxically, Joseph and Mary's escape TO Egypt embodies a return
        to a safe place - at least for a little while.  The very country that
        the Jews fled from became the sanctuary for the new born Christ child
        and his family.
     
     .  What made Egypt safe?
     
             . It certainly was NOT that the holy family returned to oppression;
               that they entered into that from which they were fleeing
     
             . Perhaps, a peoples' returning to Egypt signifies that the people
               were now better equipped to deal with an area of life that was
               formidable in the past.
     
     . How could that new found freedom come to be for us today?  How can we re-
     enter the land of Egypt?
     
             . It certainly is NOT that we should return to oppression or that
               we should reenter at the same point of which we left.
     












     . What makes YOUR Egypt safe for you?
     
             . Christ was born for YOU!  Christ was born for YOU!  Christ has
               set you free.  Christ, God with us, fully human, fully divine,
               fully spirit, born in a manger, lived amongst us, teaching us
               the way, took on the sins of the world upon his shoulder, died
               for us and rose again, conquered sin, evil and death and showed
               us that nothing, absolutely nothing, can separate us from the
               love of God.
     
     . We have been empowered to replace hate with love - to love as we have
       been and are loved
     
     .  Clearly Egypt was not the same, it was not as it used to be
     
     .  So, too, where before we had to flee, now we have been set free.  Know
        that God loves you and love others as you have been loved.  You are
        free to be yourselves and all that God has ever meant for you to be.
     
     . Whatever Joseph's Egypt was, whatever the Angel's Egypt was - they had
       come to terms with it and could deal with it.
     
     . It was in going BACK to Egypt that allowed Jesus and his family to
       continue on from there to Nazareth.  It is in dealing with life, with
       conflict, with difficult times that we too are free to return to our
       Egypt and then to continue with our life's journey.  Thanks be to
       the God that has set us free!
     
     . Christ's entry into our lives is the bread of our lives; it is that which
       sustains and empowers us and guides us; Thanks be to God!
     
     .  It's clear that this church certainly isn't what it used to be!
     
                       . it didn't even exist
                       . the old school
                       . the "workship" service
                       . yes, even the fellowship
     
     .  Taking the  steps :
     
                       . requires risks
                       . requires prayer
                       . requires interdependency
                       . requires looking forward  along a  sometimes difficult
                         and sometimes incredibly joyous path
     
     
     
     
     
             . And so, what happened to make Egypt a safe place?
             . How does this relate to us today?














             . many of us set out on similar trails, called the trail of life         
               and the brush gets us or the trail twists and turns and has so         
               many forks that we get lost
     
                       . maybe in a love relationship
                       . or in our nuclear family
                       . or in our plans for work
                       . in unemployment
                       . in physical, mental or health areas
     
             . So we escape, we FLEE from
     
                       . sometimes to a bottle
                       . sometimes thru entering depression
                       . sometimes thru expressions of anger and violence
                       . sometimes thru overeating, oversleeping, not being able
                         to move
     
     . What is it that makes the old territory seemingly safe?
     
     . Jesus Christ was born for YOU!  Jesus Christ was born for YOU!
     
     . The old dragons still lurk in shady corners and blast their snorts of
       fire!
     
     .  The difference is that Christ has changed the equation: now we no longer
        need to FLEE as we have been set FREE
     
             . The tyranny of Egypt, the despair and agony of life, can now be
               visited from a new direction, from a new perspective.  Christ has
               set you free.
     
                     . the dragons ARE still there!
                     . their strength has been sapped
     
     
     . Yes, Christ came - now it is our choice, how do we wish to respond?
     
     . Things clearly aren't what they used to be, instead of needing to flee,
       now we are called to be freeing.
     
             .  What IS God calling us to do?
     
             .  How will WE be parts of the body of Christ?
     
             .  When will we answer the door and let Christ in?














567.8Dot's Sermon on Same TextsMR4DEC::RFRANCEYdtn 297-5264 mro4-3/g15Tue Dec 29 1992 21:53510
             "Things Clearly Aren't What They Used To Be"
                                   

     * Remember  what it  was like the first time you had a baby?

     How your  life changed?  You came home from the hospital and

     didn't get  a good night's sleep because of this new someone

     in your  life who  was now  dependent on  you.  Remember the

     first night  the baby  cried all  night and  you thought you

     must be doing something wrong because babies aren't supposed

     to cry like that.  From the birth of that new baby your life

     was never the same again.

     

     * Later when your children grew up, left home, perhaps to go

     away to  school,  to  get  married,  or  to  get  their  own

     apartment; again your life changed and you had to refocus on

     priorities and  people in  your life.  Your own relationship

     with your spouse now was able to be focused on.

     

     * Still  later after  many years of a fruitful and rewarding

     relationship your  spouse dies  and you are now alone.  This

     time the change seems unbearable.  Now the crying that wakes

     you up  in the  night is your own.  God's love holds you and

     sustains you.   Through family and friends that love is made

     evident.








     

     * Or  going back to your younger years, perhaps you remember

     being that young person who went off to school for the first

     time.   Away from  familiar family and friends.  You embarke

     on a new life and instead of having responsibilites, you are

     responsible - for your own life and your own decisions.  And

     the change is exciting /and scarey.

     

     * You  get your  first job.  Move to a different part of the

     country.   Later, you  realize that your life isn't what you

     thought it  was going  to be like.  You accept the fact that

     you are  not going  to be married and have the dreamed about

     family and the house in the suburbs with the two car garage.

     You wonder about your later years and who won't be there for

     you when  you need help as you get older.  What was expected

     didn't happen  and new  adjustments must  be  made  in  your

     thinking and understanding.

     

     * Change  is never  easy, yet  the reality  is our  life  is

     always changing.  Change is sometimes sought after, but more

     than likely  outside influences  cause changes  in our lives

     that often  seem out  of our control.  We worry about it, we

     wonder what's going to happen, we cope.







     

     * Changes  are occuring  here at  Trinity.  Hopefully we are

     more than  coping.   This is  a time of transition as Janet,

     our Senior Interim Pastor, spiritualy guides us and leads us

     as we  discover who  we are  and where  we are going.  We're

     discovering that  change is  a growing  experience.  That by

     careful study,  prayerful diligenge, and hard work - what we

     do does  make a  difference - and not only in our lives, but

     in the lives of those around us and around the world.

     

     * Two  days ago,  we celebrated  the birth of Jesus.  At the

     Christmas Eve  Service, we  read the  story and  sang of the

     birth of  the Christ  Child.  Have our lives changed because

     of that  birth?  Do we live as if it made a difference?  How

     do we  affirm the  presence of  God in  our lives that is so

     central to  Christmas?   Even at  those times when we do not

     experience it?   Is Christmas reliable?  Do we have a savior

     during the hard times?

     















     * The  Old  Testament  Lesson  from  Isaiah  speaks  of  the

     trustworthiness of  God during  difficult times.  The people

     recall God's  graciousness and  mercy at a time of need when

     the mercy  of God  is not  readily apparent.    The  prophet

     Isaiah recalls  how God  embodies  the  three  qualities  of

     goodness, mercy  and loving kindness.  He illustrates how in

     the past  these qualities  have been  directed toward Israel

     and how  God is  present with the people.  He emphasizes how

     God is  Israel's savior  even when the salvation of God does

     not appear to be present - God is suffering with them in all

     their distress.   Because  God is so intimate - by suffering

     with them  - they are able to affirm the divine presence and

     salvation at all times.

     

     * Contrasting  this conclusion of Isaiah that God is present

     in suffering  is Psalm 148 which turns all of creation (both

     heaven and earth) into an orchestra, whose music is meant to

     praise God,  who is  clearly present  in every corner of the

     created order.   The  scope of  this psalm  encompasses  all

     aspects of creation.  This larger vision tells us that it is

     God who  generates praise and it is God who remains close to

     the people  of God  at all  times -  nearness  in  times  of

     distress and in times of praise.







     

     * Have  you ever  experienced that  old nostalgic  love  for

     something that  in earlier  days you were perhaps glad to be

     rid of?   For  men, maybe  it's that  1951 Ford or that 1955

     Chevy - you know your first car.  And now, there is that old

     car again,  maybe conjured  up in  your  dreams  or  in  the

     wanderings of  your mind - there it is in all its splendor -

     just waiting  to be  polished, loved  and part  of your life

     once more.

     

     * Or  perhaps you  took piano  lessons as  a child,  and you

     remember those  long practices that your mother made you do.

     And you  even volunteered  to do  the dishes  to get  out of

     practicing.   But now,  there you  are  at  your  daughter's

     recital -  she's all  dressed up,  hair gleaming, excitement

     bustling in  the air  and suddenly  you feel  the warmth  of

     those earlier  days that  had been masked by your dislike of

     those practice sessions.

     

     * These  parts of  our lives  help make  us who  we are, yet

     often we're  not aware  that that  is so.  These seeds aften

     lie dormant,  needing just  a little  watering to  make them

     come alive.







     

     * Sometimes  the things  in our past that we try to avoid or

     run from  are more  intense  and  disturbing  -  maybe  even

     threatening -  whether  real  or  imagined.    Parents  beat

     children and  leave scars  that are  physical and emotional.

     Perhaps a  close friend  betrayed or  lied to you as a child

     and made  it impossible  for  you  to  trust  in  any  close

     relationships any  more.   Maybe you  have a  perception  of

     yourself as  not really  good or  worthy enough.   And so we

     hide.   We turn  away from  our  families  from  fear,  from

     embarassment, because we don't know how to be close.

     

     * We  run from  difficult situations  - from  a friend dying

     with AIDS, because we are afraid we won't know what to say -

     from the  couple who  are in the midst of a divorce - from a

     friend who  recently  had  her  breats  removed  because  of

     cancer.  Knowing and feeling that God is with us through all

     our lives  - in the pain, with the fear, and in times of joy

     - seems to be more easy to forget than to remember.

     

     * Others  too have  faced difficult  situations.  The verses

     that were  read in Matthew this morning, follow the story of

     the visitaion of the wise men from the East who came looking







     for "the  king of  the Jews,"  because they  had seen a star

     signifying his  birth.   They first  went to  Herod's  court

     seeking the  child.   When Herod heard that the wise men had

     seen the  star and  had come  to worship the Christ whom the

     prophets had  written about,  he was  fearful.  Herod caused

     changes to take place because of this.  Joseph, Mary and the

     baby had  to flee  to Egypt  to escape  the slaughter of the

     innocent children  ordered by  Herod.   This Gospel lesson -

     with its  images of  Jesus, Mary,  and Joseph as refugees in

     Eygpt and  finally making their home in Nazareth and the Old

     Testament lesson  emphasize God's  presence in  the midst of

     suffering, God's identification with the powerless.

     

     * Paul  Sherry, President  of the  United Church  of  Christ

     writes, "When  the best  we do  is never  enough, when human

     misery so  often overwhelms  us, when beauty is covered with

     ugliness, when innocents suffer, it is God's presence in the

     babe of  Bethlehem that  sustains, renews and transforms us.

     The birth  of Jesus  was a  miracle -  a miracle of love and

     mercy in  a world  of pain.   God  continues to do miracles.

     Christ is  born this  day, as, together, we witness to God's
                     ____                                        

     presence among  us in acts of justice and mercy, forgiveness

     and healing,  love and  peace.   The  miracle  of  Christmas







     reignites our  faith in  the faithfulness  of our  God.  The

     miracle of  Christmas provides  hope that  what is, need not

     continue to  be.   Christmas reminds  us that  God does  not

     forget.  We live in hope that the beloved community that God

     desires for  us all  may yet  come to  pass.  The miracle of

     Christmas reminds  us that  love is  of God and that love is

     the final  word.  God's love is for all creation and, in and

     through that love, our lives are renewed and the creation is

     restored."

     

     * In  our secular  world where Christmas is often celebrated

     by non-beleivers,  where Christmas  has become  part of  our

     culture and is accented with mistletoe and the Ho, Ho, Ho of

     Santa, we sometimes forget the seriousness of Christmas.  It

     is serious  business to  celebrate Christmas.   Many  in our

     history have  sacrificed their lives and were martyrs in the

     name of Christ.  Ever since Christ was born, "Things clearly

     aren't what they used to be."

     

     * You  all know the story of Rip Van Winkle.  Well, good old

     Rip was  a lazy,  irresponsible fellow  who  never  provided

     adequately for  his wife  and children.   One  day  when  he

     should have  been working,  he took  his dog  up one  of the







     Catskill Mountains for a walk, and being tired, lay down and

     fell asleep.   He  slept rather a long time, twenty years in

     fact, though  on awakening he did not realize this.  When he

     came down  the  mountain  to  the  village,  everything  had

     changed.   The place  seemed older  to begin with.  He could

     not find  his house  or his  family.   He did  not recognize

     anybody, and  no one recognized him.  Rip walked around in a

     daze, wondering  if he  had been  transported  to  some  new

     world.   In many  ways that very thing had happened.  During

     his twenty  years' sleep  the American  Revolution had taken

     place and  because he  knew nothing  about it  he was on the

     wrong side of the revolution.

     

     There are  some Christians  like that.  Christmas celebrates

     the anniversary  of a  revolution.   After Jesus, the Christ

     was born,  the world  was never  the same  again.   But some

     people have  never caught  up with  the news.   They  have a

     religion of  sorts- a belief in God as Creator and Judge and

     Ruler,  but  there  is  nothing  in  their  thinking,  their

     attitudes, or  their behavior  that gives evidence that once

     and for  all God  has visited  and reedeemed  God's  people.

     They need  to hear,  as we  need to  hear, the  good news of

     Christmas, that  in the coming of Christ Jesus the hopes and







     expectations of the world have been fulfilled.  Christianity

     is indeed  a historical religion: Christ did come; but we do

     not survive  on nostalgia.  Christianity is indeed a present

     fact.   The risk  in being  a Christian  is  that  you  open

     yourself to  a future,  God's future.  The good news is that

     God is  with us and therefore we need not fear.  We can live

     in trust and obedience.

     

     * What  is God  calling you to do?  How are you to live your

     life?  How will you be part of the body of Christ?  How will

     you live  as though Christ's birth makes a difference?  Yes,

     Christ came  - things  clearly aren't what they used to be -

     now it is our choice, how do you wish to respond?  Amen.


























567.9CSC32::J_CHRISTIEPeace WarriorWed Dec 30 1992 14:5426
Note 567.5
    
>    It went well for both Dot and myself!

Great news!  To God be the glory!

>    My sermon lasted for a half hour and was
>    given before a Presbyterian congreagation of about 30 people.

A half an hour, eh?  Did you catch anybody dozing? ;-)

>    Many of the people approached me after the service and commented that I
>    had really touched them and that the message helped them where they
>    were.

It never ceases to amaze me how often this happens.
    
>    My sermon seemed to me to highlight
>    more of the downside of things with the ligting up we get from Christ.
    
I believe there is value to both approaches.  And I suspect you are probably
being too critical of your own work (as most of us are).

Shalom,
Richard