Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Note 323.0

>    Mind you, this isn't a theory I necessarily subscribe to ....

And it's certainly not one that I subscribe to.

>    Hi Jamey!
     
Jamey became angry with me and left a while back.  They made him a
moderator at GOLF::CHRISTIAN.

Richard

    
    
    Big Brother is still watching you both!!!!
    
    Jamey

    .2
    
    He knows if we've been bad or good ....
    
    Hi Jamey pal.  Decided to jump in and swim with with us CP kids after
    all???  If not, I'll have to go over to GOLF:: -- a place where both 
    you *and* God are omnipotent -- and fish over there.  
    
    One question for you:  Is my return to Digital:
    
          1.  A gift from God?   0:)
    
                    or
    
          2.  The work of Satan?  ]:^)
    
    Tough one, eh?  ;)  ;)  
    
    
    Brother P.
              

    
    
    I think I'll stick to read-only over here. As for your return to
    Digital, an act of God, not doubt. He wanted you to spend more time
    with me. Now, for whose sake is another matter.  ;)
    
    Jamey

    Hooray!!!   Welcome back Paul!!!
    
    BTW, are you consulting for Dan Rizzo's group in PK?  They have just
    become part of my group (CUIP/MK) so I'm curious!!
    
    To address the topic, I have read literature that discusses Jesus
    having lived on other planets before incarnating here, not that I
    ascribe to the theory either.  FWIW
    
    
    Ro who is sorry to rathole the topic!!

    .5    Hi Ro ....  nice to "see" ya!
    
    Yes, I report into that group.  Almost all my time is spent at OGO,
    however.  
    
    Oh, I think it is probable that Jesus incarnated into other 
    physical-plane civilizations (other planets), with perhaps the
    same or similar mission.  I am sure there are other races out
    there who also need some assistance in finding their way home to
    the light of God.  The tricky part, which causes so much debate,
    is not so much whether Jesus had a mission(s) -- he did -- but
    trying to understand/interpret the meaning of his mission(s).
    This has much to do with one's concept of God and what feeds into
    that concept -- bible, other holy works, spiritual experiences,
    nature, and so forth.
    
    Jamey.... do you think Jesus had other similar missions on other
    planets, with other races of beings?  (Thought I would just 
    throw the line out and see what bites.)  ;)  ;)
    
    The scenario I described in .0 is perhaps for rats.  I just wanted
    to hear some discussion in support of or refuting it.
    
    Paul
    

    Re Basenote
    
    Hi
    
    I started  at topic on this sometime ago, but it didn't go very far,
    see 238.
    
    There are some interesting correspondences between the alledged UFO
    experiences and abductions and certain scriptural events.
    
    What prompted you to raise this issue?  What info do you have on it?
    
    Playtoe

    
    
    Sorry, Paul.
    
    No bite.
    
    Jamey

    re 6
    
>    Jamey.... do you think Jesus had other similar missions on other
>    planets, with other races of beings?  (Thought I would just 
>    throw the line out and see what bites.)  ;)  ;)
    
    I can respond to that!  Take it for what it's worth.
    
    When we understand that our solar system is unique, and our Sun, a
    Star, is different from every other Star (give or take a very few and
    so far and few between it becomes insignificant).  And, that our Solar
    System resides near the tail end of this galaxy.  And in light of the
    Ancient Wise and their cosmology regarding Man on Earth, suggesting
    that we are a unique Creation.  And that Satan was cast ONLY onto Earth
    and was a unique angel himself...I'd have to say the likelihood of
    Jesus, as we know him in Scripture doing the same for other
    people/beings on other worlds is little (with the thought in mind that
    "little" out of a billion or more stars, may add up to a lot in our
    minds but relative to the billion it would be few percentage wise).
    
    I say this also because the majority of Stars, thus solar systems, in
    the universe lie closer to the center of the any given galaxy.  They
    would therefore receive more energy and the respective being would
    consist of greater energy, and thus be more atuned with the LIGHT,
    which Jesus said he was, and God's Word represents.  They wouldn't so
    easy be deceived by material reality...if in fact they were as material
    as we on earth are.  This is assuming that the reason Mankind has
    crystalized in such flesh is due to the fact that we are so far away
    from the center of light.  98.6 degrees as a body temperature may be
    comparitively low!
    
    How's that for something to take home and cook!
    
    Playtoe

    .8   What kind of fish are you, anyway?  ;)
    
    Re .9  
    
    I am not clear on what you are saying here.  Are you saying that the
    human race is the ONLY race of physical beings in the universe?  If
    so, I would disagree.  I am sure there are many other planets out
    there similar to earth, near the center as well as on the fringes of
    galaxies, that also sustain intelligent life.  It seems logical that
    God created other races of beings like ourselves, in need of 
    "salvation."  Besides, why would Jesus or other masters need to
    tell the worlds into which they incarnated about other cosmic
    civilizations?  
    
    Are you also saying that the physical light in the universe, as well
    as its intensity, is in direct proportion to the intensity of light
    akin to the Spirit of God?  If so, I would also disagree with this.
    
    There are billions of galaxies and therefore billions of "centers
    of light."  But I think there is, spiritually, only one center of
    light we call God, and that this center transcends time and space and 
    our material world, including the nuclear fission that creates the
    light in the stars.  This isn't to say the physical plane is not
    related to God and does not matter; it does, in that it is God's
    creation, regardles of how you define "God," and it assists us
    beings, who pass through the physical/material plane, in understanding
    where our REAL and TRUE treasures lie -- in the kingdom of God,
    which is everlasting, unlike the physical/material world, which
    is subject to decay.  Jesus taught this by example.
    
          "This is assuming that the reason mankind has crystallized
           in such flesh is due to the fact that we are so far away
           from the center of light."
    
    This assumption strikes me as a bit silly.  What is the basis for this?
    As for the "center of light" and what it means, see my comments above.
    
    Paul
    
    
    

    Re: 10
    
>    I am not clear on what you are saying here.  Are you saying that the
>    human race is the ONLY race of physical beings in the universe?  If
>    so, I would disagree.  
    
    When you say "physical" what do you mean?  I believe in beings living
    on other planets, but I would say that their physical composition and
    density is based upon light/energy factors...as the body is made up of
    condensed light/energy particles.
    
    >	I am sure there are many other planets out
    there similar to earth, near the center as well as on the fringes of
    galaxies, that also sustain intelligent life.  
    
    I do not believe that the beings at the center of a galaxy, or ones who
    live on a planet in a binary star system (such that they never
    experience night), have the same type of physical body consistency. 
    Even gravitational differences, cause certain developmental
    differences.  I would submit that "man" as we know us to appear is a
    rather unique thing.  In scripture it says that no two stars have the
    same glory...and in that light, how our sun develops our physical being
    is unique to the universe.  
    
    >It seems logical that
>    God created other races of beings like ourselves, in need of 
>    "salvation."
    
    It does?  First, God didn't create us "in need of salvation", we fell
    on our own, according to the scripture.  And the body consistency
    before the fall is different from that which developed afterwards.
    
    >  Besides, why would Jesus or other masters need to
 >   tell the worlds into which they incarnated about other cosmic
 >   civilizations?  
    
    Jesus came to earth, because Satan was here causing the fall of man. 
    So actually we didn't fall on our own, we had a little help.  So Jesus
    came to help us back up.  Now, Satan, was banished to earth.  You can
    conceive of Jesus on all the planets, but do you also conceive of Satan
    on them all as well?  I say NO, Satan was unique to heaven.
    
>    Are you also saying that the physical light in the universe, as well
>    as its intensity, is in direct proportion to the intensity of light
>    akin to the Spirit of God?  If so, I would also disagree with this.
    
    That's an illogical way of putting the question. The Spirit of God and
    physical light have no direct correlation.  What I'm saying is that the
    physical light in the universe and it's intensity upon a given planet
    has a direct relationship to the physical entities that develop on any
    given planet.  Which is to say, although the Spirit of God may be the
    same, in different environments and climes it manifests in various
    forms and manners, ways which we may not comprehend or believe to be of
    God at all, in appearance.
    
    The basis for my ideas stems from my readings of "melanin" and the fact
    that our bodies are made of condensed light.  We know that light/energy
    moves slower in a cold atmosphere and faster in a hot atmosphere.  So
    our sun and planet being on the fringe of the galaxy has, no doubt, a
    colder atmosphere that one that is at the center of the galaxy, where
    the majority of the stars in our galaxy are clustered...and that's true
    logic.
    
    If you want so info on melanic studies and "neuromelanin" just let me
    know!