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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

724.0. "Anyone played with Technics Pianos?" by BOHR::CASSONE (Dom Cassone UPO1-3 DTN 296-4797) Fri Mar 20 1987 12:21

    I am looking to buy an electronic piano.  I have looked and listened
    to the Yamaha Clavinova Seris and was not really impressed.  I looked
    at the Roland MKS-20 and RD-1000 and was VERY impressed.  I also
    read all to notes about electronic pianos in this conference and
    it seems that the consensus is that the MKS-20 (and derivitives)
    is the best currently available.
    
    I was already to buy the Roland when I and heard the Technics SX-PX1M
    and other Technics SX-PX models (9,7,6...).  I was rather impressed
    with the feel and sound of the higher end units.  The Technics units
    have not been mentioned in this conference.  Does anyone have any
    information, opinions, experiences with Technics keyboards?  I also
    understand that they have announced a couple of new units (SX-PR60
    and 40).  These units not only contain PCM sampled piano but also
    a number of other instruments.
    
    Briefly, what I am looking for is a keyboard (or keyboard controller
    and a module (like the MKS-20)) that has a real piano feel (88 wieghted
    keys, perferably wood), real grand piano sound, and the ability to control
    other MIDI devices.  These are the baseline requirments, but will
    take as much as I can get.  I am willing to spend a reasonable about
    of $$.
    
    Thanks,
    Dom
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724.1PointerJAWS::COTEFight for your right to pate'..Fri Mar 20 1987 14:344
    There's a bazillion notes on this topic in NOVA::COMMUSIC that
    you might find informative.
    
    Edd
724.2Gee, where am I...AKOV68::EATONDImpressionable YouthFri Mar 20 1987 15:138
RE Note 724.1 by JAWS::COTE 
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>    There's a bazillion notes on this topic in NOVA::COMMUSIC that
>    you might find informative.
>    
>    Edd

724.3Well! I *was* right....JAWS::COTEFight for your right to pate'..Fri Mar 20 1987 15:216
    HA!! Sometimes I get a bit mixed up and forget which conference
    I'm reading!! I thought I was reading MUSIC when I entered the reply!
    
    How do I draw a *VERY* red smiley face?
    
    Edd the_embarrased
724.4Some xreferencesPHUBAR::WELLSOh?Fri Mar 20 1987 15:3224
    Being in a similar market, I just did a lot of searching through
    this file yesterday on just this topic.
    
    The left column is the string I searched for using dir/title="string"
    and the numbers are notes of interest that those directories turned
    up (that is, that had to do with controllers or e. pianos).
                             
    BOARD	216, 370, 511, 655
    KURZ	147, 375
    MKS		374
    PIANO	271, 440, 631
    ROLAND	686
    YAM		180
    
    I also searched for RD, EP, YPR, KAWAI, and MKB with no interesting
    results.  If there are other notes that I missed, I (we, actually)
    would be grateful for more pointers.  The above notes do give a
    lot of good information to start with, though!
    
    I'm going to check out as many different pieces of equipment as
    I can in Boston tomorrow.  One thing I'd like to find is the Kawai
    stuff.  Is it out, and where might I find it if it is?
    
    Richard
724.5Only rumors from magazines...AKOV68::EATONDImpressionable YouthFri Mar 20 1987 15:495
	For the record, I don't believe anyone has given any review, or for that
matter, mention of the Technics pianos to date.  I've seen them in synth
catalogs, but have seen no-one in the central/eastern Mass area that carry them.

	Dan
724.6huh?GNERIC::ROSSwe have good gnus and bad gnusFri Mar 20 1987 15:519
    Allright!!!!
    
    Hey, Richard....keep an eye out for Kawai m-8000 midi controller!
    
    It was anounced at NAMM but not displayed (arg!). Id love to
    play one.....
    
    still_searching_ron
    
724.7Technics on display in WorcesterBOHR::CASSONEDom Cassone UPO1-3 DTN 296-4797Fri Mar 20 1987 17:1216
    re .5
    
    Steinert & Sons at 110 Grove St. Worcester MA has the whole line
    of Technics pianos and organs on display.  As mentioned in .0, I
    have seen them and played them.  They appear to be execellent
    instruments, but I was looking for additional opinions before I
    make my choice between Roland and Technics.  I am rather new to
    the electronic instrument market and was hopping that some of you
    could shed some additional light on the Technics product line. 
    I too have read all the notes in this conference regarding pianos
    and found them quite educational.
    
    RE .6
    I too am interested in the Kawai M-8000, but have not yet been able
    to find one.  
    
724.8MORMPS::WINSTONJeff Winston (Hudson, MA)Fri Mar 20 1987 18:052
To get competitive prices on Technics - call Sam ash in New York (they 
have an 800 number)
724.9Your opinions, sir?PHUBAR::WELLSEh?Fri Mar 20 1987 18:078
    Dom, could you give us an idea of the price and capability ranges
    of the Technics line?  Subjective comments would be welcome as well.
    Also, are any of them *not* pieces of furniture?  I think I am more
    interested in something more portable/storable (although, yes, I
    know from helping Don move his around at the Winterjam, a KX88 is
    not exactly a strap-on controller :-).
    
    Richard
724.10LDP::WEAVERLaboratory Data ProductsFri Mar 20 1987 22:329
    There is a Kawai dealer on the northbound side of the Middlesex
    Turnpike (just north of Daddy's, which is on the southbound side)
    in Nashua.  I forget the name of the place, but it is pretty easy
    to spot.  It is somewhere between Daddy's and the MacDonalds.  If
    he doesn't have one, he might be able to give a pointer to someone
    who does (he doesn't seem to be into keyboards too much, but I think
    he had the K3 there).
    
    						-Dave
724.11A couple of correctionsEMERLD::DUBEMon Mar 23 1987 14:539
    re: -1
    
    a) the name of the store is MUSIC WORKSHOP, and you can usually
       chew them down quite a bit in price (the store doesn't get a
       lot of business)
    
    b) it's on the Daniel Webster Highway, not the Middlesex Turnpike
    
    -Dan
724.12notes>724.0/refresh.....BISTRO::SLAGBOOManother bugcheck please.....Tue Jan 12 1988 13:359
    couple of months later.....having the same problem as .0....
    
    any more/new info/experiences on Technics pianos
    
    having the problem that there's no way to connect a headphone to
    my Schimmel I'm looking for a 88-key keyboard with a real piano
    sound,weighted keys etc
    
    Mari
724.13Tried Technics, bought Kurzweil.MARKH::HERDEGMark Herdeg, LTN1-2/B17 226-6520Tue Jan 12 1988 15:4242
    This past weekend I went out in search of a keyboard that was (a) as
    piano-like as possible in sound and feel, (b) usable as a MIDI
    controller, and (c) affordable. Having additional programmability would
    be a nice plus.

    I first looked at 3 Technics models that were on sale at Boston Piano
    and Organ. They were the SX-PX4, 5, and 6. All have a few sampled
    sounds--piano, electric piano, harpsichord, vibes--and no
    programmability beyond that. I very much liked the feel and sound of the
    SX-PX6, which has a full 88 weighted keys. It has 16 note polyphony and
    basic MIDI controller features like program selection. It is a console
    unit with built-in good-sounding speakers. The other two keyboards have
    the same sounds but only 76 keys and 8 note polyphony. One is a console
    unit and the other is a portable keyboard. I didn't like the feel of
    them as much, but still not bad. The SX-PX6 had a sale price of $2400
    and the other two were $2000 and $1600. I was quite tempted by the
    SX-PX6.
    
    Later that same day at Daddy's I tried out the Ensoniq Sampling Grand
    (on sale for $1000) but didn't like the clunky feel of the keyboard.
    Also looked at the Korg Sampled Grand ($1000) which had a pretty good
    feel, more programmability, but pretty horrible sounds.
    
    Daddy's didn't have any Rolands, but I've looked at them recently. I do
    very much like the feel and sound of the RD-300, which I've seen selling
    for about $2300.  Like the Technics, though, it is not programmable.
    
    Then I looked at the new Kurzweil K1000. It had just come in the day
    before. It has 76 weighted keys and is a bit stiffer than the RD-300 or
    the Technics. It has something like 11 basic sampled instruments plus a
    number of pure waveforms and extensive waveform combining, editing, and
    filtering capabilities. It is 24 voice polyphonic/multitimbral and
    completely full-featured and flexible as a MIDI controller (and
    controllee). The grand piano is superb to my ears. The price was $2350
    and I bought it. I've fooled around with it for two days at home and
    love it so far. With a couple minor tradeoffs, it has everything that
    the Roland and Technics pianos have, plus a whole lot more.
    
    The K1000 also comes in a MIDI module called the PX1000 for a few
    hundred less.
    
    -Mark