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| 2240.1 | I'm so mundane... | WEFXEM::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Thu Jan 18 1990 17:43 | 6 |
| Yamaha and Alesis right on the top, where they should be!!
...hey, and how 'bout Yamaha blowing Roland right outta the water in
the second list?
Edd (owner of all the POPULAR stuff!!)
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| 2240.2 | yeah, conventional, right | TALK::HARRIMAN | The nuke runs MAXCIM | Thu Jan 18 1990 17:59 | 6 |
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uh huh. Nice to see I'm so conventional. Too bad it's not broken down
by product (even if that would be rather long)....
/pjh
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| 2240.3 | | MIZZOU::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 235-8176, 223-3326 | Thu Jan 18 1990 18:09 | 3 |
| They should *not* have discontinued the TZ. Bozos ...
Steve
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| 2240.4 | | WEFXEM::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Thu Jan 18 1990 18:15 | 4 |
| Agreed. Without a doubt the most bang for the buck I've seen come
outta ANY mfr.
Edd
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| 2240.5 | Well Oh Yeah?! | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | | Thu Jan 18 1990 18:40 | 5 |
| I'm glad I don't run with the crowd...
len (whose only concession to conventionality seems to be the TX-81Z
and HR-16, the, uhm, least valued components in my setup...).
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| 2240.6 | What - no D-50s? | NRADM::KARL | It's computerized, no thing c,an go wrong nothing c an g | Thu Jan 18 1990 20:28 | 6 |
| And no D-50s! Also - EPS was the only sampler - that was curious.
No ESQ-1s or Ms either. If some people on this list could put up
the $ for an EPS, I'm surprised there were no D-50s. Are these
has beens (taken over by the KORG M1)?
Bill
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| 2240.7 | But Some Prophet Fives, Too | AQUA::ROST | Everyone loves those dead presidents | Fri Jan 19 1990 11:09 | 10 |
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Re: .6
The full list, which I didn't put in, did have some D-50s. Those you
see are the 10 most popular. Notice that in the analysis the poster
pointed out that the two highest scorers in both the synth and drum
machine lists are low-priced models, meaning there are a lot of folks
out there working on limited budgets.
Brian
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| 2240.8 | a proper cross-section? | NRPUR::DEATON | In tents | Fri Jan 19 1990 11:41 | 6 |
| Another thing we have to remember... This poll is of USENET people,
right? Is it right to assume that that population is representative of the
market as a whole?
Dan
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| 2240.9 | Which Market Do You Mean | AQUA::ROST | Everyone loves those dead presidents | Fri Jan 19 1990 16:45 | 11 |
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Re: .8
I think it's representative of the market of non-professional
musicians. Which is like most of us. Particularly since a lot of
USENET folks are obviously in the computer business.
Amongst pros, I would expect to see the DX7 on the top of the list.
Brian
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| 2240.10 | How about us? | KEYBDS::HASTINGS | | Fri Jan 19 1990 19:34 | 2 |
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Hmmmm, anyone care to take a similar poll amongst COMMUSIC noters???
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| 2240.11 | FM technology? No aftertouch? C'mon... | LOOKUP::ADSUPPORT | | Fri Jan 19 1990 20:38 | 8 |
| RE: .9
That's too bad. I think there are much better synths to be
investing in these days than the DX-7. Maybe the pro's don't care as
much about high-technology as they do their music. Unfortunately,
that's where I'll never be a pro, I like the latest bells & whistles...
--mikie--
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| 2240.12 | Not that it wouldn't be interesting but... | SMOP::BLICKSTEIN | Conliberative | Sat Jan 20 1990 10:48 | 8 |
| > Anyone care to take a similar poll amongst COMMUSIC noters???
One should really think twice about this.
I personally would refuse to provide a "menu" of things that some
less than scrupulous person could steal from my house.
db
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| 2240.13 | Less than scrupulous? | DECSIM::GILLETT | void *ChrisGillett( void ) DTN 225-7172 | Sun Jan 21 1990 15:20 | 10 |
| Re: .12
Given that the notes conferences are private communications amongst
Digital Employees, are you saying that people who work here are "less
than scrupulous".
Usually Lurking,
chris
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| 2240.14 | | SMOP::BLICKSTEIN | Conliberative | Mon Jan 22 1990 03:46 | 16 |
| Since there weren't any funny faces, I'll presume your question wasn't
rhetorical.
I believe that there are "less than scrupulous" people who read
these conferences. Obviously that's different from saying that
people who read these conferences are "less than scrupulous".
Folks can do as they see fit. I just thought I should mention a
conceivable danger.
I personally wouldn't list my stuff here.
db
p.s. BTW, the set of people who read these conferences isn't limited
to "people who work here" or "Digital Employees".
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| 2240.15 | Nyet... | DCSVAX::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Mon Jan 22 1990 10:15 | 4 |
| Like Dave, I wouldn't list all my gear in one convenient place. I've
really no idea where such a list might end up.
Edd
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| 2240.16 | did *I* volunteer? | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Mon Jan 22 1990 11:31 | 16 |
| If there's really interest, and people trust me (I mean, I've seen most
of your setups anyway!), we could do the following:
a) send me mail, listing your gear
b) I add mail gear to summary listing, removing names etc
c) I DELETE/PURGE the mailgram
d) I post listing after X days
Given that I have more stuff than I have time to play with, AND that I
live in Ohio (bloody long drive to rip something off, should I even
think about it), and that I'm a scrupulous fellow, I think the dangers
are minimal.
Again, entirely up to the readership.
-b
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| 2240.17 | | KOBAL::DICKSON | You could be an ocarina salesman | Mon Jan 22 1990 12:58 | 2 |
| How do you know there isn't someone else in Ohio reading this? Or
someone in Ohio with a friend who is reading it?
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| 2240.18 | may be inadvisable | MILKWY::JANZEN | Busy-ness is not Business | Mon Jan 22 1990 13:03 | 0 |
| 2240.19 | Inquiring minds don't need to know... | MUSKIE::ALLEN | | Mon Jan 22 1990 14:00 | 20 |
| re last few...
Well, I live in Minnesota, and not only would this be quite a distance
for someone to come and rip me off, but even if they did they would
promptly FREEZE upon leaving the confines of my igloo. :^)
Although many of us have already discussed some of our equipment
elsewhere in these notes (those of us who have know where those
places are), I must agree with those who are a bit skittish about
giving inventory checklists of their equipment. This is a bit off
the subject, but it seems like an appropriate time to mention that
all of us SHOULD have complete listings of what we own (including
serial #'s) and be sure that our insurance agents have copies of
those lists. This is crucial not just in case of theft, but fire
or other disaster. And besides, if you can't trust you friendly
insurance agent, who can you trust?
Clusters,
Bill Allen
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| 2240.20 | If I had a PROM blaster... | WEFXEM::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Mon Jan 22 1990 14:26 | 4 |
| Those of you with TX81Zs may want to do what I did. Modify the power-up
message to say "STOLEN!".
Edd
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| 2240.21 | A little too late, n'est pas? | NWACES::PHILLIPS | | Mon Jan 22 1990 14:36 | 22 |
| Well, I personally don't care to know if my equipment is in the top ten
or not however I have probably listed everything I own at one time or
another espcially in the 'for sale' note. It makes me wonder, if people
should have such fears amongst DEC employees, should I put my stuff
for sale in the WANT ADD? Just about anybody buys that thing. I must
admit that I am sometimes a little concerned about folks who come to my
house to check out equipment that I have up for sale, fearing they may
have ulterior motives, but so far I have had no problems.
And now to freak out the paranoid ones. Won't it be safe to assume,from
the discussion we have here, who owns what? And what wat about the
'introduction note', most people list their equipment. (Note I never
did introduced myself - too embrassed about what I owned at the time.)
So isn't it kind of late to worry about that now.
By the way I have been ripped off twice- Rochester,NY and Arlington,
MA. It's not a nice thought.
Alright man, (with a West Indian accent)
Errol
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| 2240.22 | Open up, it's the Police! | NRPUR::DEATON | In tents | Mon Jan 22 1990 14:38 | 14 |
| RE < Note 2240.20 by WEFXEM::COTE "My kingdom for a pizza..." >
> Those of you with TX81Zs may want to do what I did. Modify the power-up
> message to say "STOLEN!".
The Police are on the way to your house right now to retrieve the TX81Z
you stole from me - and I have proof... 8^)
Actually, I do something fairly similar. I have the power up message
modified to give my full name. Only a fairly technical thief would have any
idea how to go about changing it.
Dan
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| 2240.23 | tweak, tweak | SWAV1::STEWART | As a matter of fact, it's all dark | Mon Jan 22 1990 14:48 | 14 |
|
Jeez, you guys are so paranoid! Or maybe that's just normal for
East Coast attitudes? You've got insurance, right? You like to
buy new gear, right? And you really wouldn't get much on the open
market for that old CZ-101, right? *8')
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| 2240.24 | You gotta watch out for the paranoids | DECSIM::GILLETT | void *ChrisGillett( void ) DTN 225-7172 | Mon Jan 22 1990 16:48 | 18 |
| Re: .14
Um, who besides Digital Employees and "people who work here"
(contractors, consultants, and the like) read these notes?
I realize that perhaps there are darksider-types from the real world
who hack into our machines and sneak around, but given the far-flung
trans-continental demographics here, I'd say it'd be a pretty big
challenge to 1) break into the systems, 2) find someone with really
cool gear, 3) map that person to a location, 4) find him in the real
world, 5) break into his house, 6) steal all his gear.
And how about .23? You guys DO have insurance don't you?
The Paranoids are out to get EVERYBODY! :-)
chris
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| 2240.25 | Who knows where notes go? | WEFXEM::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Mon Jan 22 1990 17:07 | 8 |
| Anyone remember Kurlan Music?
Don't fool yourselves into thinking that this stuff is private. It's
*supposed* to be, but probably far from it in practice.
Just cause you're not paronoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya.
Edd
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| 2240.26 | I Have a Casio MT-40 and a Mattel Synsonics... | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | | Mon Jan 22 1990 17:12 | 12 |
| Paranoid or not, Brad's offer to serve as a clearinghouse for equipment
rosters serves at least two purposes - first, it requires that even the
most paranoid of us trust only Brad (a trust that is warranted and that
all of us who know Brad will vouch for), and secondly, it allows Brad
to roll up the data rather than requiring us to each do it individually.
Now, all you paranoids have to do is watch all the Midwestern truck
rental agencies and make sure Brad doesn't rent an 18 wheeler for a
quick run to the greater Maynard area...
len.
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| 2240.27 | ;^) | WEFXEM::COTE | My kingdom for a pizza... | Mon Jan 22 1990 17:17 | 5 |
| What! Trust a man who dislikes Merlin The Cat!!!
I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.
Edd (I'd_vouch_for_Brad)
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| 2240.28 | story time? | SWAV1::STEWART | As a matter of fact, it's all dark | Mon Jan 22 1990 17:23 | 14 |
|
.25> Anyone remember Kurlan Music?
No, but given thread of this topic it sounds as though it could be
an interesting story. Let me go get a cup of coffee, first...
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| 2240.29 | Ole Green Eyes | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | | Mon Jan 22 1990 18:57 | 4 |
| .26 - Where'd you ever get the idea Brad didn't like ole Merl'...
len.
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| 2240.30 | my cat trusts me, so there {nyah} | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Mon Jan 22 1990 20:54 | 6 |
| Actually, I like Merlin. I would have scrubbed Fat Wabbit, too, but
she decided otherwise and glared at me from another room. Humph.
The offer's still open.
-b
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| 2240.31 | Ready for that story... | DECSIM::GILLETT | void *ChrisGillett( void ) DTN 225-7172 | Tue Jan 23 1990 03:15 | 7 |
| Aw, come on...tell the Kurlan Music Story!
BTW, if y'all DO want to take an equipment poll, I've got a Casio
CZ5000. In fact, I just got it a few weeks ago and have just begun
to explore it.
chris
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| 2240.32 | the Kurlan story in a nutshell; and let's do it | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Tue Jan 23 1990 14:32 | 30 |
| In a nutshell - several years ago, a DEC employee walked into Kurlan's
and was made mention of our "user group" - the Kurlan rep responded "Oh
- you mean the COMMUSIC notesfile" and proceeded to produce pages
(quantity unknown) of extracts from the conference.
This was done without the knowledge of any of the major conference
participants (to the best of my recollection), not to mention the then
moderator Jim Ravan.
On to the survey.....
Anyone interested in participating in a nameless equipment poll should
send me mail before the end of this month. I'll log the equipment
(sans name & address) and send you a reply mail when I've blasted and
purged your mailgram. Sometime during the first few weeks of February,
I'll post a summary listing of equipment. No names will be associated
with any gear.
If you doubt my integrity, feel free to send mail to any of the
moderators. I have no intention of distributing names or equipment
lists, and will use these things only to post a summary topic in this
conference. If you don't trust me, that's okay too. You just won't
get included.
I'm going to be out of the office 2-3 days a week for the next few
mos., so don't expect "I blasted your mail" responses within 5 minutes.
Say hi to Merl for me, Len.
-b
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| 2240.33 | Wabbit Says Hi Too | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | | Tue Jan 23 1990 15:36 | 14 |
| What categories?
Synths/keyboards?
Keyboardless SGUs?
Drum machines?
Sequencers?
Effects?
Mixing boards?
Tape recorders?
etc.?
len.
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| 2240.34 | Unameit | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Tue Jan 23 1990 19:18 | 18 |
| Far as I'm concerned, any categories that you folks deem appropriate.
I've already received a few mailgrams (thanks), and they include
synths, controllers, drum machines, computers, sequencers (including
software sequencers), librarian/editing software, FX, amps, mixers,
tape decks (including number of tracks), etc.
Other categories might include racks, cases, & gig bags (might be
interesting to see how we carry our gear), MIDI accessories for
the computer (such as OpCode's Studio3), and things of that nature.
Far as I'm concerned, anything that you use to make your music/studio
happen is okay by me. I'm just compiling and reducing the data. Of
course, silly things like milk crates for keyboard stands (which I use
in the studio) will probably be ignored. I'll even keep track of what
kind of animals populate the studios. So far, at least 3 of us have
cats (Len, Edd & me). I always wants some cool cats in my studio ...
-b
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| 2240.35 | udpate | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Thu Jan 25 1990 14:33 | 6 |
| Got 12 submissions to date. Keep those cards and letters coming.
Compilation starts a few days after the 1st of February (assuming work
doesn't get in the way)...
-b
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| 2240.36 | Like deja vu all over again. | SALMON::ALLEN | | Thu Jan 25 1990 19:25 | 24 |
| re .35
Work?.........
work?.......
hmmm........
OH YEEEAAHHHH, WORK!!!!!
^ ^
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| 2240.37 | meow | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Fri Jan 26 1990 12:35 | 9 |
| A friendly reminder ... make sure you include things like recording
gear, mixing facilities, etc (if you have them, of course).
Some are only mailing SGUs. That's alright, but I'd hate to skew the
sample ... and it might be interesting to see who uses what and how.
To whet your appetite ... it's amazing how many folks have studio cats.
-b
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| 2240.38 | Polls have closed. Film @11. | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Fri Feb 02 1990 16:35 | 9 |
| As of today, the polls are closed. I'll be assimilating this
information for the next few weeks and will be spitting out a list
then.
Thanks to all who responded ... I'll be looking forward to the results
myself. In the meantime, can someone come up with a good descriptive
keyword for this thing? I'm stuck.
-b
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| 2240.39 | | SALSA::MOELLER | Invisible to teenaged girls | Fri Feb 02 1990 16:49 | 1 |
| GEARPOLL
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| 2240.40 | plz be patient. | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Mon Feb 19 1990 16:11 | 8 |
| I've been jerked to a customer site for the next 2-3 mos. I'm trying
to put this thing together in my spare time, but given that the
customer is 150 miles one way from home, and given that the site is
screwed up beyond belief, it's going to take me a bit.
Hang in there, folks.
-b
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| 2240.41 | Status? | VOLKS::RYEN | Rick Ryen 240-6501 AET1-1/A6 | Tue Mar 27 1990 21:28 | 8 |
| Hey Brad,
Made any progress on this?
I'd love to see something, even if it's not real
organized.
Rick
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| 2240.42 | work gets in the way | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Tue Mar 27 1990 21:37 | 16 |
| Sadly, I've been put at a customer site in Michigan, where I've been
since the end of January, and will be until the end of April. I only
get to note because they have a 1200 baud dialout modem that I
discovered. Sadly, even that time is limited because this place is so
screwed up.
I have some stuff done on hardcopy (ie, pencil-type chicken scratch)
but nothing firm, other than a pet count (cats are the overall
favorite).
Given that I'm away from home most of the week, and never in the
office, and rarely at my Atari ST (where all this stuff currently
sits in quasi-arranged form), it may take a while. Sorry I can't
give you better news. 8-(
+b
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