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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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Number of topics:2852
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2753.0. "DIY MIDI?" by ASICS::EDMUNDS (ack no none gal) Tue Oct 22 1991 11:56

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2753.1do you want to hack or do you want to play?EZ2GET::STEWARTBalanced on the biggest waveTue Oct 22 1991 12:4410
    
    Keith, unless you want to do this for the sheer thrill of hacking
    hardware, just go buy some used synth.  You can probably pick up a
    CZ-101 for US$100 - as an example.  For the money you get a nice little
    miniature keyboard (no velocity), an SGU with lots of buttons to push
    (and available support software), and a MIDI interface.
    
    But if you want to MIDI your piano, yes, the baud rate is fixed, so you
    have to choose the appropriate clock circuitry to achieve that speed.
    
2753.2MANTHN::EDDWe are amused...Tue Oct 22 1991 12:504
    Although the chip will "scan the keyboard" you'll still need some
    sensors installed in the keybed for the chip to scan...
    
    Edd
2753.3An ex-Hardware Buff's ViewSHIPS::REMMINGTON_JTue Oct 22 1991 14:1922
    If you enjoy messing around with soldering irons and DIY PCBs, and can
    borrow a scope etc, why not?  You'll need an idiots guide to the MIDI
    standard (I'm sure I've seen one in this conference somewhere, or I
    think I could dredge one up if you're stuck) and of course you'll need
    to be sure the sensors on your old piano are compatible with what the
    chip expects.  HOWEVER, I suspect (not sure because I don't know the
    chip) that without some fairly fancy extra logic you will not be able
    to set up keyboard splits and layers, which, if you want to use it as a
    master keyboard for more than one SGU (or even a single SGU if it's
    multitimbral) could be a pretty serious limitation.   In any event, you 
    will need to adapt your keyboard to be able to select the MIDI channel to 
    be used, and set up said splits etc if the chip can indeed hack it.  
    
    So bottom line IMHO is basically to agree with -2;  fine if you enjoy the 
    practical side as an end in itself, but if you're really 'just' a musician 
    wanting a cheap keyboard - don't - your time and blood pressure is likely 
    to be worth more than the extra bucks you'd have to fork out to buy one 
    ready-made.
    
    Good luck whichever!
    
    
2753.4DECWIN::FISHERI understand your concerns. Request denied.Tue Oct 22 1991 14:226
BTW, to get velocity, you have to have TWO switches for the ship to scan on each
key.  One which switches as the key leaves the top position, and the other which
switches when the key hits bottom. Timing the difference between the 2 gives
velocity.  Don't know if your kb has these already.

Burns
2753.5MIZZOU::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Tue Oct 22 1991 14:348
    In the end, I think that you won't save money rolling your own versus
    going out and buying a keyboard, at least not that much when you
    consider the cost of your time.  Eventually, you may want to add
    velocity, splits/zones/layers, aftertouch, pitch bend, hold pedal,
    expression pedal and so forth.  You can get that on the used market now
    for pretty cheap.
    
    Steve