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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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2160.0. "Drum Notation" by NORGE::CHAD () Fri Nov 10 1989 14:19

Notating drums:

I am doing some work on something with Notator and want to know what symbols
are used and where on the staff (and what is the staff clef) they go for the
following (and do non-trap-set percussion --like latin stuff - ususally have
a different staff?):

kick
snare
toms
hihat
crash(s)
ride(s)
rim-shot
snare roll

congas
bongos
timbales


Thanks

Chad
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2160.1Do what you what see if I care ;-)MILKWY::JANZENcf. ANT::CIRCUITS,ANT::UWAVESFri Nov 10 1989 15:0316
    They can use standard noteheads or x noteheads and standard treble clef
    or a special percussion clef || or no clef.
    They can be each on one line or the instruments to be played by one
    person on the same staff.
    They can use a standard staff or just a line ____________.
    
    
    If you use a  standard staff, you can put one instrument on the top
    space stems up and another instrument on the bottom space stems down.
    Or the middle spaces.  
                       ____             ______
      4        |       |   |     |      |     |
    ||________X_______X___X_____X______X_____X___|
      4  
    
    Tom
2160.2moreNORGE::CHADFri Nov 10 1989 16:367
I am asking because Notator offers many different percussion symbols (x, o, 
xo superimposed, regular noteheads, etc) and I am trying to relate that to
sample scores in magazines and demos etc.

thanks Tom, good info.

Chad
2160.3standardsNORGE::CHADFri Nov 10 1989 16:3914
Also, is there any standard when using a special clef for the drums/percussion
mentioned in .0?  I mean, when I see a full staff with drum music, how
do I know what is snare, kick, etc.

Thanks

Chad

Tom's reply reminded me of music I saw for concert band and marching band.
Are there other methods also?  The peice is more of a jazz/funk/fusion type
thing

Chad who_has_a_hard_time_describing_axectly_what_classification_a_tune_should_
have_:-)
2160.4yes they have no pitchesMILKWY::JANZENcf. ANT::CIRCUITS,ANT::UWAVESFri Nov 10 1989 17:416
2160.5I c'n he'p!!WEFXEM::COTEOK, who wants a Tangwich???Fri Nov 10 1989 18:498
    I've got a few drum scores at home that all use the same notation.
    
    I'll post 'em tomorrow if nobody beats me to it.
    
    Basically, each line or space on the staff represents a specific
    instrument...
    
    Edd
2160.6This should get you started...WEFXEM::COTEOK, who wants a Tangwich???Sun Nov 12 1989 11:1648
    This is the protocol used in the transcription of Dave Weckl's drums
    to "Rumble" by Chick Corea's Electric Band. Limitations of my terminal
    prevent total accuracy.
    
    The entire piece is notated on the bass clef...
    
    Cymbal(1)
    Hi-hat(2) -------------------------------------------
    10" Tom
    12" Tom   -------------------------------------------
    Snare (3)
    Machine   -------------------------------------------
    15" Tom
    Nothing   -------------------------------------------
    Bass
    Nothing   -------------------------------------------
    FC Hi-hat
    
    (1)  Cymbal 1 is dependant on the type of note head. A stylized X
    indicates Ride (rim). The same X in a circle indicates Ride (bell).
    A diamond indicates a crash cymbal.
    
    (2)  At least 3 different instruments share this line. An X indicates
    a sticked hi-hat. At least 3 different symbols can appear above the X
    in order to indicate closed, open, or partially open. Closed appears
    to be the default position. 
    
    A diamond on this line indicates a second crash cymbal, and a regular
    note head indicates a hi-pitched tom.
    
    (3) The snare is notated with a normal note head. A circle around the
    note head indicates a rim-shot. A Z on the stem indicates a "press
    roll" (I dunno what a press roll is.) Snare drum notes are often placed
    in parenthesis, indicating a "ghost note". I'm not sure what a ghost
    note is either, but I've found that if I enter it with a VERY low
    velocity (Like "1" on my HR-16) the results sound correct, and the
    explanation sounds intuitively correct.
    
    The largest resolution notated is the quarter note. Finer resolution is
    indicated thru the normal use of flags on the stem. Rests are used to
    fill out the rest of the bar. Rests can appear either on the high B
    space or the low A space, but appear to be relative ONLY to the
    instrument notated on that line. (hi-hat or bass drum)
    
    I have my doubts as to whether there is a true standard, as the
    percussion part can vary too much.
    
    Edd