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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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Number of topics:2852
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2025.0. "Ensoniq ESQ1/SQ80 Being Dropped" by AQUA::ROST (It's the beat, the beat, the beat) Fri Jun 16 1989 12:14

    
    According to an article on the VFX in the July issue of MUSICIAN,
    Ensoniq is dropping both the ESQ-1 (no surprise) and the SQ-80
    (surprise!!).  No mention of the Mirage, but I see Union in Worcetser
    is selling them for $995 including a disk library, brand new...
    
    
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2025.1$$$$$ Reduction?GIAMEM::LAFLAMMEFri Jun 16 1989 12:325
	Any idea how much SQ-80's will go for?
    
    (Not that I care or it makes ANY difference to me)
    
    --mikie--
2025.2Not sure about the SQ-80 part of thatDREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeFri Jun 16 1989 14:1914
    There was a mention of that directly from Ensoniq in the Transoniq
    Hacker (Ensoniq user group magazine), but it said they were only
    dropping the ESQ-1, and didn't mention the SQ-80.
    
    Perhaps they are dropping it, but that doesn't like a good idea
    because that would leave them without an entry in the very
    popular $1000-$2000 synth/sequencer market.
    
    Remember the VFX does NOT have a sequencer.  A very unfortunate
    omission IMO.  That sequencer is useful for lots more than just
    sequencing, it's also useful for managing a complex MIDI system
    in live situations.
    
    	db
2025.3ESQ-1 and Mirage DSKHPSTEK::RENEset profile/nopersonal_nameFri Jun 16 1989 19:217
    I heard they were dropping the ESQ-1 and Mirage DSK. In fact I remember
    seeing a blurb in KEYBOARD about winning the "last Mirage or ESQ-1
    that rolled off the assembly line" a few months back. Yeah, I had tear
    in my eye 8'^).
    
    Frank
     
2025.4MirageTOCATA::PICKETTDavid - Beware of the dogma.Wed Jun 21 1989 20:045
    Mirage for $995?? I've seen them going for $595 at LaSalles. I don't
    believe this was the regular price. Even so, it was a tough deal to
    pass up.
    
    dp
2025.5More Ensoniq Products upcomingMISING::SFAFRAKRISCy business...Fri Jun 23 1989 21:4812
I just heard yesterday that Ensoniq is going to announce two new boards:

	o 	VFX with a disk drive and a sequencer, I cannot remember what 
		they were going to call it (WFX? or maybe QFX?).  The price was 
		going to be in the mid 2K range

	o 	A watered down version of the VFX

Of course these could become vaporware like the rack mount version that was 
supposed to be out immediately after the VFX.

Scott
2025.6Third Party ESQ Carts Being DiscontinuedAQUA::ROSTEveryone loves those dead presidentsTue Jan 09 1990 16:2129
    
    I just got the January 1990 issue of the Transoniq Hacker and there's
    an article about the "maturing" (read rapidly approaching dinosaur
    status) of the ESQ-1.
    
    To make matters worse, a number of Hacker ads for ESQ carts/patches are
    having closeout deals, with notices that there will be *no more carts
    made* once existing stock is gone.  Among them:
    
    Maartists 800-832-2737
    160 Voice EEPROM carts, loaded with patches, $49.95
    20K sequencer expander cart $59.95
    
    Eye and I (Voice Cystal) 408-945-0139
    VC1, VC2, VC3 EEPROMs with patches, $40 each.
    80 patch SQ-80 disk, $20.  For next two months (3/90?) only
    
    Patch Works Software (Q-Spectrum) 212-873-2390
    160 voice ROM $59.95, 160 voice RAM (EE?) $94.95, two volumes each
    Cassette, ST or SQ-80 disks $44.95, 2 volumes each or both for $79.95
    Blank 160 voice EEPROM  $84.95
    
    Thoroughbred Music 800-634-4872
    80 voice EEPROM carts $29.00
    
    Looks like it's time to buy those patches/carts you've been thinking
    about *now*.
    
    								Brian
2025.7Will they become PD?NRADM::KARLIt's computerized, no thing c,an go wrong nothing c an gTue Jan 09 1990 16:437
    I wonder if the companies will consider these patch banks to be
    public domain after they finally sell out of their stock? At that
    point passing around patch banks won't affect them. I suppose they
    might want the option of bringing them back on the market due to
    public demand, or might not want them made PD for some other reason.
    
    Bill
2025.8No PD Patches From Voice CrystalAQUA::ROSTEveryone loves those dead presidentsFri Feb 02 1990 17:1414
    
    I talked to the Voice Crystal people today and asked them about
    availability of patches after they stop making carts.  
    
    They said they will *not* do one-off tapes or disks, period, once their
    stock is depleted.  They will *not* put their patches into the public
    domain.  They *will* provide patch data to existing customers, though. 
    If you are registered with them as a customer (i.e. you ordered direct
    or filled out a warrnaty card) they will give you backup data for life
    in case your cart goes south, etc.  Seems reasonable.
    
    Anyway, I guess that means buy those patches now, folks.
    
    						Brian
2025.9C-64 4sale, anyone ?DOPEY::DICKENSWhat are you pretending not to know ?Mon Mar 05 1990 18:054
Has anyone used the Valhalla ESQ patches ?

They have a C-64 patch/sequence librarian for $99, and will sell you all 757
Valhalla ESQ patches on C-64 floppy for $65.  Gee, how much does a C-64 cost ?
2025.10Note 1764 On ESQ PatchesAQUA::ROSTBikini Girls With Machine GunsMon Mar 05 1990 18:3313
    
    See 1764.23 on the Valhala patch set.  I went ahead and ordered the
    patch book as opposed to a disk ( I have an SQ-80) or cartridge for
    money reasons.  After programming in my first 40 patches, I'm glad I
    did.  The patches are not mind-blowing, but most are better than the
    factory set.  There are a lot of patches which are quite similar, for
    instance I found two, OB-X and XPANDR which were identical in over 50%
    of the parameters.  
    
    If you're in MA, I can loan you the demo tape so you can hear what the
    patches sound like. 
    
    							Brian
2025.11Maartists Carts Will Remain In ProductionAQUA::ROSTBikini Girls With Machine GunsTue Mar 20 1990 13:5013
    
    Re: .6
    
    Just got off the phone with Maartists, trying to find out why my
    cartridge hadn't arrived yet and they said they were "back-ordered".  I
    mentioned that the ad said they were discontinuing the cart, and only
    current stock was available.  They told me that they got so many orders
    once they announced they were dropping it, that they wil be continuing
    production for the foreseeable future.  
    
    Ah, the voice of the consumer is heard!!
    
    							Brian