| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 14.1 | Of course TALC beforehand..... | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Mon Jan 11 1993 18:03 | 11 |
| Saturday I went to the PC - SH game in Providence with my brother.
PC stunk up the joint, shot ~39% but other than that, they played
halfway decent.
The crowd in the Providence Civic Center had about as much life
as a 3 day stiff in the morgue!
I remain,
still true to BBall!
Kev
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| 14.2 | Alright!!!!! SJU beats Pitt! | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Mon Jan 11 1993 18:07 | 12 |
|
I'm suprised it hasn't been mentioned before ;^)
but did anybody notice that my favorite team, Saint John's
University, happened to beat Pitt on Saturday night at a game at Alumni
Hall in NYC.
Way to Go Redmen!!!!!!
I remain,
proud of their 2-1 record so far!
Kev
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| 14.3 | | MKFSA::LONG | "just keep it between the lines" | Mon Jan 11 1993 18:49 | 5 |
| Hmph...so much for Pitt's leap into the TOP 25! But it ain't
over yet.
Bill
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| 14.4 | | CUPMK::DEVLIN | RAY What now? I'm Going to Disneyworld! | Mon Jan 11 1993 18:52 | 4 |
| Georgia Tech upset Duke yesterday, ending Duke's winning streak. Kentucky
is now #1.
JD
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| 14.5 | inquiry called for | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Tue Jan 12 1993 19:01 | 27 |
| In honor of our former brethren, MrT:
Article: 783
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball.college,clari.local.maryland
Subject: Fight halts college hoops game
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 21:56:31 PST
GREENSBORO, N.C. (UPI) -- The game between Morgan State and North
Carolina A&T was suspended Monday night after a fight broke out during
the first half.
Visiting Morgan State was leading 35-31 in the first half when the
fight broke out. The crowd never got involved in the incident but the
referees decided that continuing the game would be dangerous.
The referee said that the atmosphere in the arena was not condusive
to a college basketball game.
The first hint of a brawl occured with 2:43 left in the half when
North Carolina A&T center Kevin Chamberlain was ejected for a flagrant
foul. The benches emptied with 1:55 left following a collision under the
basket between North Carolina A&T's Thomas Garner and Morgan State's
Michael Brewer.
The referees reviewed video replays and determined that Garner,
Brewer and North Carolina A&T's Thad Young and Morgan State's Vincent
Langston should be ejected as well as players from both benches. The
ejections left each team with only three eligible players and officials
decided to suspend the game.
A decision on when to continue the game has not been made.
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| 14.6 | ;^) | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Tue Jan 12 1993 19:04 | 8 |
| re: .-1
Doesn't this belong in the ACC note?
Haw haw!
- ACC Chris
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| 14.7 | Malcolm Mackey Player o' the Week | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Tue Jan 12 1993 19:53 | 26 |
| Article: 788
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball.college,clari.local.georgia
Subject: Malcolm Mackey: UPI Player of Week
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 10:50:00 PST
NEW YORK (UPI) -- Malcolm Mackey, who made three key free throws to
help Georgia Tech upset then-No. 1 Duke, Tuesday was named UPI's Player
of the Week in college basketball.
Mackey had 19 points and 7 rebounds in an 80-79 victory Sunday that
ended the Blue Devils' winning streak at 23 games, the nation's longest.
Duke dropped from No. 1 to No. 2 in Monday's UPI poll and Georgia Tech
jumped from No. 11 to No. 7.
Mackey made two free throws with 12 seconds left to give the Yellow
Jackets a 79-74 lead. He then made 1 of 2 from the line with five
seconds to go as Georgia Tech held on.
``I'm a senior and I wanted the ball,'' Mackey said. ``I wanted to
shoot the free throws. That's why I held the ball when I got it -- so I
could get fouled.''
Mackey's teammate, Drew Barry, the son of former NBA great Rick
Barry, also received consideration for the award. Barry, a freshman,
scored 11 points against Duke and made three key steals in the second
half.
Also receiving votes from a nationwide media panel: Indiana's Damon
Bailey, Kentucky's Travis Ford and Jamal Mashburn, Cincinnati's Nick Van
Exel and Arizona's Chris Mills.
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| 14.8 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Wed Jan 13 1993 12:43 | 8 |
| I may be going out on a limb here...
If Kentucky gets by Vandy and Purdue within the next few days, they
will go the distance undefeated.
(Actually, those are the last two "big games" the Kats have...)
Chip_MASH_Bach KENTUCKY #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 14.9 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Thu Jan 14 1993 03:59 | 8 |
| re: .8
Kentucky lost to Vanderbilt. Will still be interesting to see how many
games they lose this season. Kansas will probably be ranked #1 in the
next poll, unless of course they lose before that.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.10 | | SALEM::TIMMONS | Where's Waldo? | Thu Jan 14 1993 10:17 | 5 |
| Re .8
Wow, talk about a KOD! :*)
Lee
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| 14.11 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | take me to Roslyn Cafe | Thu Jan 14 1993 11:15 | 14 |
| I suspect Duke will go back on top. my cut at it
1. Duke
2. Kansas
3. Indiana
4. UNC
5. Kentucky
6. Michigan
7. Seton Hall
8. Arkansas
9. Cinncy
10. Virgina
mike
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| 14.12 | Vandy? | ROCK::MURPHY | Andy Kaufmann never met a shot he didn't like | Thu Jan 14 1993 12:50 | 8 |
| Vanderbilt? Is this the same Vandy team that Illinois destroyed in Dec?
Wow. Anyone know how many pts. Billy McCaffery (ex Duke) had? He lit it
up vs. the Illini.
Lou Henson goes for #600 and the Big 10 lead vs. IU this Saturday in
Champaign. Should be a hootenanny. So of course Iowa Duke is on instead...
Murph
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| 14.13 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Thu Jan 14 1993 17:18 | 3 |
| RE: .10
Wots a KOD?
|
| 14.14 | | CAMONE::WAY | Cheez-Whiz, Choice of Champions | Thu Jan 14 1993 17:20 | 4 |
| > Wots a KOD?
Kiss Of Death.....
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| 14.15 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Thu Jan 14 1993 17:24 | 7 |
| Yup, it twas.
I knew I shoulda mouthed off the nexted day.
(Although, technically, I don't think I qualofy fer Crow)
Chip_GSH_Bach
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| 14.16 | | ROYALT::ASHE | It's big, heavy, it's wood... | Thu Jan 14 1993 17:52 | 2 |
| Michigan should be ranked ahead of UNC, shouldn't they Mike?
|
| 14.17 | | DYPSS1::ROPER | BRoper DTN-433-4336 | Thu Jan 14 1993 19:20 | 41 |
| I guess all this talk about UK was bound to bring me out of hiding!
Chip, you didn't really think UK would go undefeated this year did you?
Hopefully you were just caught up in the euphoria of the Cats being the
top ranked team, etc. Much too difficult to win every game in the
regular season these days unless you are in a cupcake conference (See
1991 UNLV!). The SEC is a pretty tough conference. Almost every
recruting report I read rated this freshman class in the SEC as the
nations best. The SEC will be heard from in the tourney the next few
years.
I was worried about going to Vandy even before the #1 ranking came out!
Afterwards I was real concerned. I listened to the game last night
(840 AM WHAS) and UK is still struggling in a couple of critical
areas.
#1. Half-Court Offense - Kentucky basically has no offensive
continuity at this stage of the season. This is caused
primarily by the loss of 4 key seniors (Pelphrey, Feldhaus,
Woods, and Farmer). UK has a TON of talent this year, much
more than last year in fact. However, they need to improve
greatly in the motion offense that Pitino runs. Too much
One-on-One play. BTW, the IU game showed many offensive
weaknesses. IU won most statistical categories in the game
but basically lost it on the line (18-36 FT's).
#2. Poor defense. Last night at Vandy, UK was horrible in their
Man defense. Billy McCaffrey tore them apart. 23 points and
14 assists. UK wasn't moving their feet on defense. The
patented Pitino press has been fairly ineffective this year
also. Again UK has the speed and quickness to have a
dominating defense. Youth wins out at this point in the
season however.
Add to the above the fact that UK is pathetic from the charity-stripe,
and this team doesn't have much margin of error. IMO, UK has the
talent to contend for the NCAA title this year. But it all depends on
how quickly the youngsters learn the offense, etc. I suspect they will
stumble a few more times before the SEC schedule is finished.
- Bob "WILDCAT" Roper
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| 14.18 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | take me to Roslyn Cafe | Mon Jan 18 1993 11:32 | 6 |
|
Maybe Walt but with UNC only having one loss and Michigan two, you'd have
to rate them higher. As Don said it'll be much more fun when UNC chokes
on their high ranking....
mike
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| 14.19 | | ROYALT::ASHE | It's big, heavy, it's wood... | Mon Jan 18 1993 16:28 | 3 |
| Depends, Michigan's losses were to Indiana and Duke, both ranked higher
then UNC and Michigan. I'd still rank them higher, in spite of the
2 losses. Who has UNC really beat?
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| 14.20 | Thanks in advance | CUPMK::DEVLIN | Junk Note Free Zone | Tue Jan 19 1993 12:55 | 32 |
| I keep hearing Nazz and ACCrook whine about how the Atlantic 10
is a better conference than the Big East.
Here are the Top-25 teams in the country. Help me with
geography, and point out all them Atlantic 10 teams:
Kansas
Indiana
Duke
Tarhells
Michigan
Kentucky
Arkansas
Cincy
Seton hall
virginny
Oklahoma
Arizona
Iowa
Purdue
Uconn
Georgia Tech
UNLV
Georgetown
Vanderbilt
UCLA
Mich. State
FSU
Pittsburgh
Utah
Ohio State
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| 14.21 | Does not include any Pacific Time Zone results | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Jan 19 1993 13:19 | 387 |
| Independents W L Pct.
------------
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 15 1 .938
Missouri-Kansas City 8 7 .533
Notre Dame 7 7 .500
Southern Utah 7 7 .500
Cal State-Northridge 7 8 .467
Central Connecticut State 6 9 .400
Hofstra 4 13 .235
Northeastern Illinois 3 10 .231
Buffalo 3 11 .214
Chicago State 2 13 .133
Cal State-Sacramento 1 16 .059
Atlantic Coast W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Virginia 4 0 1.000 11 0 1.000
North Carolina 4 0 1.000 14 1 .933
Florida State 3 1 .750 11 5 .688
Georgia Tech 2 1 .667 9 3 .750
Duke 2 2 .500 12 2 .857
Wake Forest 1 2 .333 9 3 .750
Clemson 0 3 .000 9 3 .750
North Carolina State 0 3 .000 4 7 .364
Maryland 0 4 .000 8 5 .615
Atlantic Ten W L Pct. W L Pct.
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St.Joseph's 3 0 1.000 9 2 .818
Rhode Island 2 0 1.000 10 3 .769
Temple 3 1 .750 7 3 .700
Massachustts 2 1 .667 8 4 .667
West Virginia 1 2 .333 7 5 .583
Rutgers 1 2 .333 7 7 .500
George Washington 0 3 .000 10 4 .714
St.Bonaventure 0 3 .000 7 4 .636
Big East W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Seton Hall 4 1 .800 14 2 .875
St.John's 4 1 .800 9 4 .692
Georgetown 4 2 .667 11 2 .846
Pittsburgh 4 2 .667 11 2 .846
Boston College 3 2 .600 9 4 .692
Connecticut 3 3 .500 8 4 .667
Syracuse 2 4 .333 10 4 .714
Providence 1 4 .200 7 5 .583
Villanova 1 4 .200 5 6 .455
Miami (Florida) 1 4 .200 3 9 .250
Big Eight W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Kansas 3 0 1.000 15 1 .938
Missouri 2 0 1.000 11 3 .786
Kansas State 2 1 .667 10 3 .769
Oklahoma 1 1 .500 12 3 .800
Oklahoma State 1 2 .333 9 3 .750
Iowa State 1 2 .333 9 5 .643
Nebraska 0 2 .000 11 5 .688
Colorado 0 2 .000 7 6 .538
Big Sky W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Idaho 2 0 1.000 12 4 .750
Northern Arizona 2 0 1.000 6 6 .500
Eastern Washington 2 0 1.000 5 8 .385
Weber State 1 1 .500 10 4 .714
Boise State 1 1 .500 9 4 .692
Montana 0 2 .000 8 6 .571
Idaho State 0 2 .000 4 10 .286
Montana State 0 2 .000 4 10 .286
Big South W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Towson State 4 0 1.000 7 6 .538
Winthrop 3 0 1.000 8 4 .667
Liberty 3 2 .600 7 7 .500
Coastal Carolina 2 2 .500 7 7 .500
Radford 2 2 .500 8 9 .471
Campbell 2 2 .500 3 8 .273
Maryland-Baltimore County 1 2 .333 4 8 .333
Charleston Southern 1 3 .250 4 7 .364
North Carolina-Asheville 1 3 .250 3 8 .273
North Carolina-Greensboro 0 3 .000 3 11 .214
Big Ten W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Indiana 4 0 1.000 15 2 .882
Michigan 2 1 .667 13 2 .867
Ohio State 2 1 .667 9 3 .750
Illinois 2 1 .667 9 5 .643
Purdue 2 2 .500 11 2 .846
Michigan State 2 2 .500 10 3 .769
Minnesota 2 2 .500 10 3 .769
Iowa 1 2 .333 12 3 .800
Wisconsin 1 2 .333 8 4 .667
Penn State 1 3 .250 6 7 .462
Northwestern 0 3 .000 5 7 .417
Big West W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Cal State-Long Beach 5 1 .833 11 1 .917
Nevada-Las Vegas 4 1 .800 9 1 .900
New Mexico State 4 1 .800 11 4 .733
Cal State-Fullerton 3 2 .600 8 4 .667
Utah State 3 2 .600 6 6 .500
Nevada 2 3 .400 7 5 .583
Pacific 2 3 .400 6 8 .429
Cal-Santa Barbara 1 3 .250 8 4 .667
San Jose State 0 4 .000 3 9 .250
Cal-Irvine 0 4 .000 2 9 .182
Colonial W L Pct. W L Pct.
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James Madison 4 0 1.000 11 4 .733
North Carolina-Wilmington 3 1 .750 11 2 .846
Richmond 2 1 .667 6 6 .500
Old Dominion 2 2 .500 9 4 .692
American 2 2 .500 4 9 .308
William and Mary 1 2 .333 8 4 .667
East Carolina 1 3 .250 5 8 .385
George Mason 0 4 .000 5 11 .313
Great Midwest W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Cincinnati 2 0 1.000 11 1 .917
Marquette 2 0 1.000 12 2 .857
Alabama-Birmingham 1 1 .500 11 6 .647
Memphis State 1 1 .500 10 6 .625
DePaul 0 2 .000 8 7 .533
St.Louis 0 2 .000 5 8 .385
Ivy W L Pct. W L Pct.
---
Pennsylvania 2 0 1.000 9 2 .818
Princeton 2 0 1.000 8 4 .667
Columbia 1 0 1.000 6 6 .500
Yale 1 0 1.000 4 8 .333
Dartmouth 2 2 .500 6 6 .500
Brown 0 1 .000 5 6 .455
Cornell 0 1 .000 5 6 .455
Harvard 0 4 .000 3 11 .214
Metro W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Louisville 3 0 1.000 7 5 .583
Tulane 2 0 1.000 12 3 .800
Southern Mississippi 2 2 .500 5 8 .385
Virginia Commonwealth 1 1 .500 9 4 .692
North Carolina-Charlotte 1 1 .500 6 7 .462
Virginia Tech 1 3 .250 5 4 .556
South Florida 0 3 .000 3 8 .273
Metro Atlantic W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Niagara 2 0 1.000 10 1 .909
Iona 2 0 1.000 8 5 .615
St.Peter's 1 0 1.000 7 6 .538
Manhattan 1 1 .500 9 5 .643
Canisius 1 1 .500 5 6 .455
Siena 0 0 .000 7 6 .538
Fairfield 0 2 .000 6 7 .462
Loyola (Maryland) 0 3 .000 1 11 .083
Mid-American W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Ball State 3 1 .750 11 4 .733
Bowling Green State 3 1 .750 6 6 .500
Ohio 3 1 .750 6 6 .500
Western Michigan 3 1 .750 6 6 .500
Miami (Ohio) 2 2 .500 6 4 .600
Akron 2 2 .500 7 5 .583
Eastern Michigan 1 3 .250 6 9 .400
Central Michigan 1 3 .250 4 7 .364
Kent 1 3 .250 4 8 .333
Toledo 1 3 .250 3 9 .250
Mid-Continent W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Cleveland State 4 0 1.000 8 4 .667
Wright State 2 1 .667 9 4 .692
Illinois-Chicago 2 1 .667 7 7 .500
Northern Illinois 2 1 .667 6 6 .500
Eastern Illinois 2 2 .500 5 8 .385
Valparaiso 2 2 .500 4 8 .333
Wisconsin-Green Bay 1 2 .333 5 6 .455
Youngstown State 1 3 .250 2 10 .167
Western Illinois 0 4 .000 3 11 .214
Mideastern Athletic W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Coppin State 3 0 1.000 6 6 .500
South Carolina State 4 1 .800 7 5 .583
Maryland-Eastern Shore 3 3 .500 6 8 .429
Delaware State 3 3 .500 5 7 .417
Howard 2 2 .500 4 9 .308
Morgan State 2 2 .500 2 9 .182
Florida A&M 2 2 .500 2 10 .167
North Carolina A&T 1 3 .250 4 7 .364
Bethune-Cookman 0 4 .000 1 12 .077
Midwestern Collegiate W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Evansville 2 0 1.000 8 4 .667
LaSalle 2 2 .500 6 7 .462
Xavier (Ohio) 1 1 .500 10 2 .833
Duquesne 1 1 .500 6 6 .500
Butler 1 1 .500 6 7 .462
Loyola (Illinois) 1 1 .500 5 7 .417
Detroit-Mercy 1 2 .333 9 5 .643
Dayton 0 1 .000 1 13 .071
Missouri Valley W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Drake 3 1 .750 7 4 .636
Tulsa 4 2 .667 7 8 .467
Southern Illinois 3 2 .600 11 4 .733
Illinois State 4 3 .571 7 6 .538
Indiana State 3 3 .500 7 8 .467
Wichita State 3 3 .500 6 7 .462
Northern Iowa 2 2 .500 6 6 .500
Creighton 3 4 .428 4 9 .308
Bradley 2 4 .333 4 8 .333
Southwest Missouri State 1 4 .200 7 6 .538
North Atlantic W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Delaware 2 0 1.000 12 3 .800
Northeastern 2 0 1.000 8 4 .667
Drexel 1 1 .500 8 5 .615
Maine 1 1 .500 6 5 .545
Hartford 1 1 .500 6 7 .462
Vermont 1 1 .500 4 6 .400
Boston University 0 2 .000 2 10 .167
New Hampshire 0 2 .000 1 10 .091
Northeast W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Rider 5 1 .833 6 6 .500
Mt.St.Mary's 5 1 .833 6 7 .462
Wagner 4 1 .800 6 6 .500
Monmouth 3 2 .600 6 7 .462
Long Island 3 3 .500 5 8 .385
Marist 2 3 .400 6 8 .429
Robert Morris 2 3 .400 4 9 .308
Fairleigh Dickinson 2 3 .400 3 8 .273
St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 1 4 .200 3 10 .231
St.Francis (New York) 0 6 .000 1 13 .071
Ohio Valley W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Tennessee Tech 4 0 1.000 8 5 .615
Tennessee State 4 1 .800 7 7 .500
Murray State 3 1 .750 8 6 .571
Eastern Kentucky 3 1 .750 7 7 .500
Southeast Missouri State 1 2 .333 8 6 .571
Tennessee-Martin 1 2 .333 4 7 .364
Middle Tennessee State 1 3 .250 5 6 .455
Morehead State 1 3 .250 1 12 .077
Austin Peay State 0 5 .000 3 11 .214
Pacific Ten W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Arizona 4 0 1.000 9 2 .818
Oregon State 4 0 1.000 8 5 .615
California 2 1 .667 8 3 .727
UCLA 2 2 .500 11 4 .733
Arizona State 2 2 .500 8 3 .727
Southern California 2 2 .500 9 4 .692
Washington 1 2 .333 7 5 .583
Stanford 1 2 .333 6 9 .400
Washington State 0 3 .000 6 6 .500
Oregon 0 4 .000 7 9 .438
Patriot W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Holy Cross 3 0 1.000 9 4 .692
Bucknell 3 0 1.000 8 4 .667
Colgate 2 1 .667 8 4 .667
Navy 2 1 .667 4 8 .333
Fordham 1 2 .333 4 11 .267
Lafayette 0 2 .000 3 10 .231
Lehigh 0 2 .000 2 11 .154
Army 0 3 .000 1 12 .077
Southeastern (East Division) W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Vanderbilt 3 1 .750 13 3 .813
Florida 3 1 .750 9 4 .692
Kentucky 2 1 .667 11 1 .917
South Carolina 2 2 .500 6 7 .462
Georgia 2 3 .400 6 7 .462
Tennessee 1 2 .333 9 5 .643
Southeastern (West Division) W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Arkansas 3 0 1.000 12 1 .923
Louisiana State 3 1 .750 12 3 .800
Alabama 2 2 .500 9 4 .692
Mississippi State 1 3 .250 8 6 .571
Auburn 1 3 .250 6 5 .545
Mississippi 0 4 .000 3 8 .273
Southern W L Pct. W L Pct.
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East Tennessee State 5 1 .833 9 5 .643
Georgia Southern 4 1 .800 10 3 .769
Tennessee-Chattanooga 3 1 .750 10 5 .667
Marshall 4 2 .667 9 4 .692
Appalachian State 4 2 .667 7 5 .583
Virginia Military 3 3 .500 5 7 .417
Furman 2 3 .400 3 8 .273
Davidson 1 3 .250 4 7 .364
Western Carolina 0 5 .000 2 9 .182
The Citadel 0 5 .000 1 10 .091
Southwest W L Pct. W L Pct.
---------
Rice 3 0 1.000 9 4 .692
Baylor 2 0 1.000 10 2 .833
Houston 2 0 1.000 9 2 .818
Southern Methodist 2 0 1.000 9 4 .692
Texas Tech 0 1 .000 8 4 .667
Texas A&M 0 2 .000 5 8 .385
Texas Christian 0 2 .000 3 9 .250
Texas 0 4 .000 4 7 .364
Southwestern Athletic W L Pct. W L Pct.
---------------------
Jackson State 4 0 1.000 10 6 .625
Texas Southern 3 1 .750 6 7 .462
Alabama State 2 1 .667 7 7 .500
Southern 2 2 .500 6 6 .500
Mississippi Valley State 2 2 .500 5 8 .385
Grambling State 1 3 .250 7 7 .500
Alcorn State 1 3 .250 2 12 .143
Prairie View A&M 0 3 .000 1 12 .077
Sun Belt W L Pct. W L Pct.
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New Orleans 6 0 1.000 12 1 .923
Western Kentucky 5 0 1.000 10 1 .909
Lamar 4 2 .667 9 3 .750
Arkansas State 3 3 .500 6 7 .462
South Alabama 3 4 .429 7 6 .538
Arkansas-Little Rock 3 4 .428 7 7 .500
Southwestern Louisiana 2 3 .400 8 7 .533
Texas-Pan American 1 3 .250 1 7 .125
Jacksonville 1 4 .200 3 9 .250
Louisiana Tech 0 5 .000 3 9 .250
Trans-America W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Florida International 3 0 1.000 10 5 .667
Mercer 4 2 .667 7 8 .467
Centenary 2 1 .667 7 7 .500
Samford 2 2 .500 8 6 .571
Georgia State 2 2 .500 7 8 .467
College of Charleston 1 1 .500 9 2 .818
Central Florida 1 3 .250 7 8 .467
Stetson 1 3 .250 5 10 .333
Southeastern Louisiana 0 2 .000 7 6 .538
West Coast W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Pepperdine 2 0 1.000 11 3 .786
San Diego 2 1 .667 7 6 .538
Santa Clara 2 1 .667 8 7 .533
San Francisco 1 1 .500 11 5 .688
Gonzaga 1 1 .500 9 5 .643
Loyola Marymount 1 1 .500 5 8 .385
Portland 0 2 .000 6 8 .429
St.Mary's 0 2 .000 4 9 .308
Western Athletic W L Pct. W L Pct.
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Utah 5 0 1.000 12 2 .857
Brigham Young 4 1 .800 11 5 .688
New Mexico 4 2 .667 11 3 .786
Texas-El Paso 4 2 .667 11 5 .688
Colorado State 3 2 .600 10 4 .714
Wyoming 3 2 .600 9 5 .643
Fresno State 2 4 .333 7 8 .467
Hawaii 1 4 .200 5 8 .385
Air Force 1 5 .167 7 8 .467
San Diego State 0 5 .000 4 10 .286
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| 14.22 | another feather for Big 10 | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Tue Jan 19 1993 20:30 | 41 |
| more LDUC info...
Here's the curerent USAToday-CNN Top 25, with current record, sorted by
conference. Once again, it's the Big10 that leads the pack with 6 teams
rated, followed by the ACC.
2. Indiana 15-2 Big10
5. Michigan 13-2 Big10
13. Iowa 12-3 Big10
14. Purdue 11-2 Big10
21. Michigan St 10-3 Big10
25. Ohio St 9-3 Big10
3. Duke 12-2 ACC
4. No Carolina 14-1 ACC
10. Virginia 11-0 ACC
16. Georgia Tech 9-3 ACC
22. Florida St 11-5 ACC
9. Seton Hall 14-2 BigEast
15. Connecticut 8-4 BigEast
18. Georgetown 11-2 BigEast
23. Pittsburgh 11-2 BigEast
6. Kentucky 11-1 SEC
7. Arkansas 12-1 SEC
19. Vanderbilt 13-3 SEC
1. Kansas 15-1 Big8
11. Oklahoma 12-3 Big8
12. Arizona 9-2 PAC10
20. UCLA 11-4 PAC10
8. Cincinnati 11-1 GreatMidwest
17. UNLV 9-1 BigWest
24. Utah 12-2 WAC
TTom
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| 14.24 | Huh? | ELMAGO::BENBACA | I've Got Three Knees!! | Wed Jan 20 1993 02:09 | 1 |
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| 14.25 | Pretty sad | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Remember Twins/Braves in '91? | Fri Jan 22 1993 19:12 | 67 |
| The following is excerps from a column that appeared in yesterday's
Chicago Tribune. It is written by James Warren, who is a magazine
reviewer. This is posted without permission from the writer.
Honest sports recruiting, like military intellegence, may be an
oxymoron, as February DETAILS proves.
The hip fashion monthly for young men enters unexpected territory,
college athletics, via writer Darcy Frey's "Jumping Through Hoops."
It's an inside account of colleges pandering to Tchaka Shipp, a NYC
HS BB star.
It's no secret that recruiting goes overboard, with illegal promises
made and even cash passed, with many solicitations on the ethical
border of rules set by the NCAA, governing body of college sports.
Frey's account is notable in capturing verbatim what many people know
goes on, but can't necessarily prove. He became a fly on the wall,
having apparently cultivated Shipp, and gained access to the sucking up
by recruiters. They included Syracuse University coach Jim Boeheim and
Villanova University coach Rollie Massimino (who has since split to
UNLV).
Boeheim shows Shipp photos of Syracuse's snazzy arena and alludes to
some well-publicized allegations of illegal aid to Syracuse athletes:
"You're gonna read in the papers about kids getting benefits. But I
want to assure you, our lawyers are working around the clock and
they've found no major violations. The headlines say 'Players Get
Cash' ... I gave $20 Christmas money to one player. Big deal. Worst
is we'll lose a scholarship. But we won't be out of the [NCAA]
tournament. Maybe we'll get a one-year probation during your freshman
year, but we won't be out of the tournament. OK maybe - maybe - we
won't play in the tournament.
"Anyway, have I mentioned the facilities? We got everything: great
weight room. Great student apartments. Socially, nowhere better.
Parties at night in the apartments. And our players - they should run
for mayor! Always the most popular guys in town. Four sets of
practice gear by Champion. And any model Nike you want. Any
questions?"
Massimino, a Danny DeVito-like character in look and manner, opened
with a grand display of feigned intimacy with the black player,
declaring, "What's happening!" He then "tried to execute some sort of
soul shake. 'How's your mama? How 'bout school, kid?'
"At Villanova, you'll come over to my house to eat. I'll even cook for
you. 'Cause at Villanova, we play together, we eat together, we cry
together."
Shipp soon had no "clue what Massimino was talking about. Words were
streaming out of the coaches mouth - a wall of sound, signifying
nothing." The coach babbled about Shipp being able to visit crippled
children at a hospital near Villanova, dressing up like Santa Claus,
passing out cotton candy and feeling better. Shipp was "already lost,
dreaming of dunks and taking his girl to Terminator 2.'"
Not once is a recruiter quoted in praise of an institution's academics.
But there's much talk of free sneakers for Shipp (who chose Seton Hall)
One can imagine how bad this all gets with coaches without the national
lure of a Syracuse or Villanova.
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Spud
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| 14.26 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Jan 24 1993 00:17 | 7 |
| re: games on TV.
It sems that in the Boston area channel 38 is picking up the ABC games
that channel 5 is passing on.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.27 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Mon Jan 25 1993 13:35 | 12 |
| Xaiver broke into the top #25, Cincy is #6, Indiana is 2#, and Kentucky
is #4...
Things is getting awful serious around here. Hope it hangs on till
March madness.
BTW, Great Cincy vs UAB game on TeeVee the other night, last second
shot for the win. Kentucky rolled the lamecocks.
I kaint wait to get to Rupp Area!!!
Chip_GSH_Bach
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| 14.28 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Jan 25 1993 15:33 | 1 |
| I heard Duke dropped another one. This time to Florida State.
|
| 14.29 | AP Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Tue Jan 26 1993 18:49 | 37 |
| Here's the AP Top 25 through Jan. 26
3. No Carolina 16-1 ACC
7. Duke 13-3 ACC
15. Virginia 11-2 ACC
18. Georgia Tech 10-4 ACC
19. Florida St 13-5 ACC
2. Indiana 17-2 Big10
5. Michigan 15-2 Big10
11. Iowa 12-3 Big10
14. Purdue 11-3 Big10
9. Seton Hall 15-3 BigEast
13. Pittsburgh 13-2 BigEast
21. Georgetown 11-3 BigEast
22. Connecticut 9-4 BigEast
4. Kentucky 13-1 SEC
12. Vanderbilt 14-3 SEC
16. Arkansas 12-3 SEC
1. Kansas 16-1 Big8
20. Oklahoma 12-5 Big8
6. Cincinnati 13-1 GreatMidwest
24. Marquette 14-2 GreatMidwest
8. Arizona 11-2 PAC10
10. UNLV 11-1 BigWest
17. Utah 14-2 WAC
23. Tulane 14-3 Metro
25. Houston 11-2 SWC
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| 14.30 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Tue Jan 26 1993 19:05 | 1 |
| Obviously not updated through Jan. 26th. (i.e., the Jayhawks...)
|
| 14.31 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Jan 26 1993 19:30 | 3 |
| TTom, there you go again, not including any Atlantic 10 teams :-)
The Crazy Met
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| 14.32 | not a contest | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Wed Jan 27 1993 13:30 | 13 |
| Actually this is a hard time for a lot of teams to make the Top 25, much
less stay there. A perfect example is the beating Ohio St is taking in
the Big 10. They lost their 4th straight lasted night against Michigan.
They started conference play in the Top 25 and may not be seen again.
The real problem with the Atlantic 10 is that like the Big 10 they lack a
certain identity. I mean neither has 10 member institutions. Unlike the
Big 10, where almost everyone knows its the Big T*1*e*1*n, who besides
possibly Rich Rollins even knows how many teams are in the Atlantic 10.
And whatever the answer is, it'll be different nexted year. At least the
membership is changing.
TTom
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| 14.33 | when does 10 = 8 ? | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Wed Jan 27 1993 13:37 | 23 |
|
TTom,
The current membership of the Atlantic 10 is (in no particular order)
Temple
UMass
Geo. Washington
Rutgers
W. Va.
R.I.
St. Joe's
St. Bonaventure
That means the Atlantic ten is really the Atlantic ate!
hth,
I remain,
thinking of the ninja as I wrote that. He wudda known the answer too!
Kev
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| 14.34 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Jan 27 1993 13:50 | 3 |
| 14.35 | pretty sure it's URI | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Wed Jan 27 1993 14:05 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.36 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Jan 27 1993 14:23 | 33 |
| Based on what's happened so far, we might see an NCAA tournament like this:
EAST SOUTHEAST
---- ---------
#1 UNC 16-1 vs #16 Wagner 8-6 #1 Kentucky 14-1 vs #16 Tenn St 9-7
#2 SHU 15-3 vs #15 Delaware 13-4 #2 Kansas 16-2 vs #15 Jackson St 12-6
#3 Vandy 14-3 vs #14 H Cross 12-4 #3 Iowa 12-3 vs #14 UTC 13-5
#4 Purdue 11-3 vs #13 Penn 9-4 #4 Virginia 12-2 vs #13 JMU 12-4
#5 Oklahoma 12-5 vs #12 Niagara 12-2 #5 Utah 14-2 vs #12 Rice 10-5
#6 Tulane 12-3 vs #11 Ball St 13-4 #6 Gtown 11-3 vs #11 Florida 11-5
#7 Wake 11-3 vs #10 UMass 11-4 #7 USC 11-4 vs #10 NMSU 13-4
#8 LSU 13-5 vs #9 BC 11-5 #8 Mich St 10-4 vs #9 UNO 13-2
MIDWEST WEST
------- ----
#1 Indiana 17-2 vs #16 Coppin St 8-7 #1 Michigan 16-2 vs #16 Towson St 9-6
#2 Duke 13-3 vs #15 NE La #2 Arizona 11-2 vs #15 Idaho 13-4
#3 Cinc 13-1 vs #14 Cleve St 9-4 #3 UNLV 11-1 vs #14 Pepp 13-3
#4 Pitt 13-2 vs #13 Wisc Milw 16-1 #4 Ark 12-3 vs #13 Oreg St 9-6
#5 FSU 13-5 vs #12 SIU 14-4 #5 Ga Tech 10-4 vs #12 Iowa St 11-5
#6 Hou 11-3 vs #11 UNM 12-4 #6 Marquette 14-2 vs #11 Kans St 11-3
#7 Minn 11-4 vs #10 Xavier 13-2 #7 Wisconsin 10-4 vs #10 BYU 13-5
#8 Missouri 12-4 vs #9 Long Beach 13-3 #8 UCLA 12-5 vs #9 St.John's 10-5
This would leave the following teams for the NIT:
Notre Dame 8-7, Clemson 10-5, St.Joseph's 10-4, Rhode Island 11-5, Temple 8-5,
Connecticut 9-5, Oklahoma State 9-4, Nebraska 13-6, Weber State 11-5,
Illinois 10-6, Ohio State 9-6, UNC-Wilmington 11-3, Memphis State 11-7,
Princeton 9-4, Manhattan 11-5, Evansville 10-5, California 9-4, Alabama 9-6,
Auburn 8-5, East Tennessee State 10-5, Baylor 11-3, Southern Methodist 10-5,
Western Kentucky 10-3, Southwestern Louisiana 11-7, College of Charleston 12-2,
Gonzaga 11-5, Texas-El Paso 12-6, Colorado State 11-5, Mississippi State 10-7,
Arizona State 8-5, Wright State 11-4, Louisville 7-5
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| 14.37 | | DEMING::MCKAY | | Wed Jan 27 1993 14:33 | 3 |
| defintely URI. RIC is a division 3 school.
Jimbo
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| 14.38 | | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Wed Jan 27 1993 15:23 | 6 |
| RE: .36
So UNLV is eligible for this year's tourney?
Joe
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| 14.39 | Oskee wow wow | ROCK::MURPHY | Oskee Wow Wow - 600 wins! | Thu Jan 28 1993 03:06 | 16 |
| Illinois 80 - Wisconsin 72
Bucky gets a taste of the good life at #24 CNN but is doesn't last. I
really believe that by the end of the season, Illinois will be #3 in
the B10, and a top 15 team. 6 losses so far, only the Texas loss was
convincing and to a lower caliber team. They beat #13 Vandy by 20,
then ranked MSU in East Lansing, and semi-ranked Wisconsin. With Iowa
down a man, and OSU playing mediocre ball, I think Minnesota, Purdue,
and Illinois will duke it out. Ironically, UI plays those two only
once this year. I think this is a typical Henson team which starts off
a little slow and comes on strong. The true frosh starting at point
is finally coming around as well. But we'll see, it would be nice
to get another road win this Sat vs. OSU. Can't wait until I gop to
Champaign to see them dismantle Pitt (from the overrated BE).
Murph - applying the KOD...
|
| 14.40 | Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Mon Feb 01 1993 19:55 | 38 |
| USA Today-CNN Coaches' Poll Top 25:
5. No Carolina 17-2 ACC
6. Duke 15-3 ACC
15. Florida St 14-6 ACC
20. Wake Forest 13-3 ACC
22. Georgia Tech 11-5 ACC
23. Virginia 12-4 ACC
1. Indiana 19-2 Big10
8. Iowa 14-3 Big10
9. Michigan 16-3 Big10
16. Purdue 12-4 Big10
2. Kentucky 15-1 SEC
11. Vanderbilt 16-3 SEC
12. Arkansas 13-4 SEC
14. Seton Hall 15-5 BigEast
17. Pittsburgh 13-3 BigEast
25. Georgetown 12-4 BigEast
3. Kansas 17-2 Big8
13. Oklahoma 14-5 Big8
4. Cincinnati 15-1 GreatMidwest
21. Marquette 15-2 GreatMidwest
7. Arizona 13-2 PAC10
19. UCLA 14-5 PAC10
10. UNLV 13-1 BigWest
18. Utah 15-3 WAC
24. Tulane 15-3 Metro
TTom
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| 14.41 | UMASS ranked #23.. | PMRV70::HEIER | | Mon Feb 08 1993 12:34 | 13 |
| UMASS is ranked again in the USA Today-CNN Coaches Poll @ #23. Now
they only have to keep winning (they currently have a nine game
winning streak). For those in the Boston area, you can catch the
UMASS/George Washington (Coach is Mike Jarvis - former BU coach)
Saturday @ noon on Fox Channel 25...It should be a great game.
Also, BC is almost in the top 25 again. It should be a great year
for NE college basketball. Definitely UMASS & BC will be in
the NCAA tournament with the possibility of Holy Cross, Northeastern,
UCONN and URI also in it.
Larry
|
| 14.42 | | METSNY::francus | Bird retires-good riddance | Mon Feb 08 1993 14:09 | 4 |
|
Can someone post the Ivy League standings? thanks
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.44 | | PLUGH::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Mon Feb 08 1993 20:23 | 10 |
| 14.45 | | METSNY::francus | Bird retires-good riddance | Mon Feb 08 1993 20:44 | 7 |
|
Thanks for the effort, but it did not help :-)
I know Penn is 5-0, Columbia is 5-1. If someone has the rest could
they please post?
The Crazy Met
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| 14.46 | Top Prep 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Tue Feb 09 1993 12:33 | 27 |
| The USA Today Top 25 Prep players and where they're going:
Ray Allen 6-5 190 Connecticut
Ben Baum 7-0 195 Oklahoma St
Joey Beard 6-10 215 Duke
Keith Booth 6-6 210 <Duke/Kentucky/Maryland/Towson St>
Jeff Capel 6-5 180 Duke
Robby Crawford 6-3 185 Michigan
Melvin Drake 6-6 195 Georgia
Damon Flint 6-5 190 Ohio St
Sylvester Ford 6-7 200 <Michigan/Memphis St/Kentucky/Arkansas>
Rashard Griffith 7-1 260 Wisconsin
Ronnie Henderson 6-5 170 LSU
Jerald Honeycutt 6-9 235 <Tulane/La Tech/UCLA/Arkansas>
Chris Kingsbury 6-5 210 Iowa
Randy Livingston 6-4 185 LSU
Antonio McDyess 6-9 210 <Miami-FL/9 others>
Jeff McInnis 6-4 170 No Carolina
Charles O'Bannon 6-7 200 <UCLA/Kentucky>
Jason Osborn 6-8 185 Louisville
Darnell Robinson 7-0 260 Arkansas
Jerry Stackhouse 6-6 220 No Carolina
Jacque Vaughn 6-0 170 Kansas
Rasheed Wallace 6-11 210 <Villanova/G'town/No Carolina/Temple>
Sherron Wilkerson 6-4 175 Indiana
Franklin Willliams 6-6 205 Auburn
Dontonio Wingfield 6-9 225 Cincinnati
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| 14.47 | Ray Allen, The Great BigLeast Hope | RHETT::KNORR | Atlantic10 > BigEast | Tue Feb 09 1993 13:33 | 7 |
| TTom wouldja kindly keep your notes slamming the BigLeast in "The Big
East" note (#23, I do believe).
tanks,
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.48 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Feb 10 1993 12:16 | 16 |
| IVY LEAGUE (Through Sunday) Conference Overall
========== ========== =======
Pennsylvania Quakers 5- 0 13- 4
Columbia Lions 5- 1 11- 7
Cornell Big Red 4- 2 11- 7
Princeton Tigers 3- 2 11- 6
Dartmouth Big Green 3- 3 9- 9
Yale Elis 2- 4 5-12
Brown Bruins 1- 5 6-12
Harvard Crismon 0- 6 3-14
Saturday's Results:
Brown 48, Princeton 41
Columbia 101, Harvard 70
Cornell 79, Dartmouth 58
Pennsylvania 51, Yale 50
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| 14.49 | Bob>>Dean | CNTROL::CHILDS | take me to Roslyn Cafe | Wed Feb 10 1993 12:24 | 12 |
|
Just when it looked like number 1 was going to go down again the refs smile
on IU and make one of the worst calls I've ever seen. Penn State deserved
better last night. For those who missed it Penn State had a two point lead
in regulation with 6 ticks left on the clock and the ball in hand taking it
out on the sideline. They set up a stack and one player breaks in to the front
court beautifully, Greg Grahman reaches out and graps his shirt and as the guy
breaks away from him they call the Penn State guy for pushing off. IU went on
to win double OT. In both OT's Penn State took leads only to have IU bounce back.
Great game despite the awful call....
mike
|
| 14.50 | ?? | CTHQ::LEARY | US:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoney | Wed Feb 10 1993 12:44 | 6 |
| What happened in double OT wif PSU up by one when all of a sudden
FatBob starts screamin' at the refs with the Lion feigns screamin'
a**hole at him? Fine time fer my cable to blip.
MikeL
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| 14.51 | Bob sez in paper PSU deserved to win. True 'nuf ... | RHETT::KNORR | Atlantic10 > BigEast | Wed Feb 10 1993 12:47 | 6 |
| Unbelievable game. Unbelievably bad call.
'nuf said,
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.52 | | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Wed Feb 10 1993 13:00 | 10 |
| The worst part is his push-off didn't even look that bad.
IU really responded in the first OT with those 3 3-pointers in a row.
I've never seen a place like that where the fans were standing right on
the edge of the court - pretty wild.
Joe
|
| 14.53 | | METSNY::francus | Bird retires-good riddance | Wed Feb 10 1993 15:01 | 12 |
| Got home for the end of the first OT and was wondering what the
call at the end of regulation that everyone was talking about.
What a way to lose a game. Penn State even had a good chance in
the second OT but there free throw shooting died.
too bad.
re:.48
Thanks for the Ivy League standings.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.54 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Wed Feb 10 1993 19:38 | 3 |
| Worst call/non-call combination in college B-Ball.
Kentucky shoulda be #1.
|
| 14.55 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Wed Feb 10 1993 19:39 | 2 |
| .54 should be another KOD for my Kats as they go up again bArkansas,
the state where people who should lose, win. ;-)
|
| 14.56 | | DYPSS1::ROPER | NOTRE DAME: College Football Mecca. | Wed Feb 10 1993 19:40 | 8 |
| re .54
Chip, SPORTS definetly needs more logical, clear thinking individuals
such as yourself.
:-),
Bob
|
| 14.57 | but, but, ... | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Bird retires-good riddance | Wed Feb 10 1993 19:41 | 7 |
| re: .54
Nah, worst call in College Basketbll history was that technical called
on Smiffy, just ask ACC Chris :-)
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.58 | Putting this in perspective | RHETT::KNORR | Atlantic10 > BigEast | Thu Feb 11 1993 10:28 | 15 |
| re: .-1
The 'T' on Dean was the worst call ever in my book, cause clearly it
was the work of a vindictive ref more interested in his own
self-servitude than calling a fair and impartial game.
However the 'Dean Toss' didn't affect the outcome of the game. The
idiots working the Penn State game simply robbed them of a 'W', plain and
simple. That in and of itself wouldn't be so bad, 'sept when you
consider it would have to rank as the biggest basketball win in Penn
State history. Now *that* hurts.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.59 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | take me to Roslyn Cafe | Thu Feb 11 1993 11:38 | 11 |
| Just to set the record straight the "Dean Toss" was one great call by individual
who had enough of this fauz paux legend's whinny, and rules breaking and said
enough is enough plain and simple. Dean like Thompson and many others seems to
feel he is above the rules of the game because he's been there so long and the
refs should cow tow to him. Pavia a real man's main said enough is enough and
tossed him.
The head official of the Big Ten has come out stating that the ref blew the
call in the IU game. PSU's coach said thanks for nothing...
mike
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| 14.60 | Everywhere but the record books it's going down as a "W" | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Thu Feb 11 1993 13:08 | 19 |
|
> That in and of itself wouldn't be so bad, 'sept when you
> consider it would have to rank as the biggest basketball win in Penn
> State history. Now *that* hurts.
You got that right. I would not be a bit surprised to see Penn State
go winless against Indiana for the next ten years.
However, whatever outrage and pain might have been felt initially has
been mitigated by the media attention to the situation (every mention
of the game I've heard on ESPN has been accompanied by "Penn State
should have won"), Bob Knight's graciousness, the Big Ten response,
etc. Even in defeat it's *still* probably the shiningest moment in
Penn State basketball history, even bigger than the win over UCLA in
the NCAAs two years ago. Penn State will have to work on improving on
that, of course, but eventually it'll happen...
glenn
|
| 14.61 | | SA1794::GUSICJ | Referees whistle while they work.. | Thu Feb 11 1993 16:07 | 12 |
|
let's see, I wonder when Penn St. wrestles IU? Seeing that PSU
is No. 1 in country at this moment, payback in another sport can
be just as sweet. And let's not forget the football team. PSU will
have plenty of time to deal with IU in other sports. I have a feeling
that a loss like this will carry over to other sports. I've seen
it before and it seems likely that it will happen again.
bill..g.
|
| 14.63 | give back that W | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Thu Feb 11 1993 19:02 | 14 |
| Where's Mr T when you need him?
He needs to follow the advise he gave to Georgia Tech when they beat
Michigan St a few years back on Kenny Anderson's shot that was obviously
after the buzzer. Indiana should do the mainly thing and give the W to
Penn St and take the L.
If'n it had been any other team, and, of course, he was still around,
he'd be in here demanding the set the record straight.
Do you suppose that the ref who blew this call knew that the Big 10 was
really the Big 11 and that Penn St is now part of that league?
TTom
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| 14.64 | BBB. Big Bob.... BigBadBob | CTHQ::LEARY | US:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoney | Thu Feb 11 1993 23:01 | 9 |
| -1,
TTom,
Nope. Dat ref coulda been in East Lansing, Madison, Evanston, etc.
All he could envision was the Masque of the Red Death comin' down on
him like a house_a_fire. Flinch city.
MikeL
|
| 14.65 | Can't hit a free throw | SALEM::DODA | Bend over America | Mon Feb 15 1993 18:13 | 3 |
| Nice shootin' there, Mr. Webber...
|
| 14.66 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Like giving a tictac to a whale... | Mon Feb 15 1993 18:44 | 2 |
| He did hit 3 3-pointers down the stretch to bring it within 1 though...
too late...
|
| 14.67 | Let's look back | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | I want a real adventure! | Mon Feb 15 1993 20:44 | 20 |
| The worst call in the history of basketball took place in March of
1971, when Julius Erving, in his last college game, was called for
his fourth foul with 2 minutes left in the FIRST HALF and Snuffy and
his boys clinging to a 5 point lead. Julius was two guys away when
the call was made, but the ref never bothered to move to see that there
was another UMass guy between Erving and the Heel. UNC went up by 9 at
the half, then Julius fouled out with 17 minutes left, and the
Snuffster poured it on without Erving in the lineup. Kept his starters
in until the final 3 minutes. FInal score: 90-49.
That was the worst call until last year, when that egomaniacal Wirtz
called the T on Calipari in the Sweet 16 game vs Kentucky. UMass
closed an 18 point lead to 2 when Wirtz nailed Coach Cal for being
out of the coaches box, even though the play was at the other end of
the court. It was a terrible call, and a terrible lack of judgment.
UMass may have not won the game, but Wirtz took away any chance they
had to win. It was a disgrace.
NAZZ
|
| 14.68 | True, the Wertz call was attrocious. | RHETT::KNORR | ACC > B10 | Mon Feb 15 1993 23:16 | 12 |
| Even folk in the NorthEastCorridor have felt the egomaniacal wrath of
Lenny Wertz. Haw! [Not reel funny though, I must admit. :^(]
As to the DocJ call, hey, I was only 11. I cainnot be held
responsible! As to Dean pouring it on, that's most unDeanlike. I find
it highly doubtful he did it out of any spite. Who knows though -
against a team like the HOurmen there's little to no chance for any
revenge. Woe is the team who pours it on a fellow ACC bro though,
cause, you cain be sure, what goes around will indeed come around.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.69 | | HEFTY::GUSICJ | Referees whistle while they work.. | Tue Feb 16 1993 13:58 | 9 |
|
Geez, you gotta feel for UMASS! Over the last 20 years, they
have been the victims of the two worse calls of all-time...
Cain anyone guess where Nazz went to school??
bill..g.
|
| 14.70 | | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Tue Feb 16 1993 14:52 | 4 |
| Springfield Institute of Lap Sitting?
;^)
|
| 14.71 | | CUPMK::DEVLIN | Time to Pay the Bill for the 1980's | Tue Feb 16 1993 16:47 | 8 |
| Po Po Nazz -
All that anger built up inside a him.
Speaks volumes for UMASS that they've had 2 big games in the last
2 decades.
JD
|
| 14.72 | Pitt gets head handed to them by BC | PFSVAX::JACOB | Hope ya starve, Jesse!! | Wed Feb 17 1993 01:19 | 5 |
| BC beat the snot out of Pitt tonight, 79-56. The Panthers purely,
totally sucked.
JaKe
|
| 14.73 | Seemed to be somethin' about runnin' up the score? | RHETT::KNORR | ACC > B10 | Wed Feb 17 1993 11:18 | 11 |
| re: BC
What's the deal with O'Brien? Caught the tail-end of his post-game
interview, during which he was a tad, er, *HOT*. Used the ace word
multiple times, with a few other explectives thrown in.
What was his beef, considering the fact his team humiliated Pitt on the
Panthers home floor?!
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.74 | | FDCV07::KING | The Jessinator, Not just a child!!!!! | Wed Feb 17 1993 12:12 | 5 |
| The Pitts coach went after obrien and accused him of running up the
score. Obrien didn't care too much of what the Pitts coach had to say.
Then the players got involved in it...
REK
|
| 14.75 | classless? perhaps...... | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Wed Feb 17 1993 12:16 | 11 |
|
Yabbut the radion this am also said something like with 4-3 minutes to
go, O'brien had the BC team imitate Snuffy and go into a 4 corner
slowdown to prevent Pitt from getting closer!
Pitt was ranked #17, btw.
I remain,
curious how they are #17 and SJU is *where* in da rankings?
Kev
|
| 14.76 | More... | RHETT::KNORR | ACC > B10 | Wed Feb 17 1993 12:36 | 9 |
| On the surface, I don't see going 4-corners as necessarily classless.
The way things were going for Pitt, couldn't this be considered
merciful?! (i.e. Pitt may not have been able to git closer, but at
least they didn't lose by even *more*.)
What aim I missing?
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.77 | My impression, anyway... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Wed Feb 17 1993 12:39 | 7 |
|
> What aim I missing?
That Paul Evans is your borderline classless jerk...
glenn
|
| 14.78 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is THREE years old!!! | Wed Feb 17 1993 12:51 | 7 |
| BC is also clinging to slim hope of making the tourney. By blowing out Pitt,
they hoped to improve their chances of getting an invite (I doubt it will
happen, they have 2[?] games remaining with Syracuse, plus some other toughies).
Evans does rate low on the class-O-meter, form what I've seen. The gist of what
I heard O'Brien say was "everyone was happy when they could come in and kick
BC's arse, but now that we beat some people, blah, blah, blah."
|
| 14.79 | I hate B.C. but Evans is being a crybaby... | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | HOMER,PLATO,VOLTAIRE,bobknight | Wed Feb 17 1993 15:21 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.80 | BC beat SU earlier this year in the CD | CNTROL::CHILDS | Not that there's a problem with that: | Wed Feb 17 1993 16:17 | 3 |
|
|
| 14.81 | Two out of the same mold? | HOCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Wed Feb 17 1993 17:42 | 8 |
| Well, O'Brien's outburst last night confirms to me that he's having
trouble handling the first success BC has had in years. He blew it
Saturday evening by not shaking hands with Brian Mahoney, and now this?
Evans is and has been a jerk, but the recent performances by O'Brien
make me wonder.
Redmen Phil
|
| 14.82 | NCAA Tourney projections ... | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Feb 17 1993 20:30 | 36 |
| NCAA teams I'd expect to be invited, based on play so far:
Cleveland State 16-4
North Carolina 20-3, Duke 19-4, Wake Forest 16-4, Florida State 19-6,
Virginia 15-5
Massachusetts 17-4, George Washington 16-5, Rhode Island 15-7
Seton Hall 18-6, Pittsburgh 15-6, St.John's 14-6, Boston College 14-7
Kansas 20-3, Oklahoma 16-7, Oklahoma State 15-5, Kansas State 15-6,
Nebraska 16-8
Towson State 15-8
Idaho 18-6
Indiana 22-2, Michigan 19-4, Purdue 15-5, Iowa 15-6, Illinois 15-7,
Minnesota 13-7, Michigan State 13-7
Nevada-Las Vegas 16-3, New Mexico State 18-5, Long Beach State 16-6
James Madison 16-6
Cincinnati 19-3, Marquette 17-4, Memphis State 16-7
Pennsylvania 12-4
Tulane 18-4, Louisville 14-7
Manhattan 17-5
Miami (Ohio) 15-5
Coppin State 16-7
Xavier (Ohio) 16-3
Southern Illinois 17-8
Drexel 16-5
Wagner 13-9
Tennessee State 15-7
Arizona 17-2, Arizona State 13-6, UCLA 16-7
Holy Cross 18-5
Kentucky 18-2, Vanderbilt 19-4, Arkansas 16-6, Louisiana State 17-6
Tennessee-Chattanooga 19-6
Northeast Louisiana 19-4
Southern Methodist 16-5, Rice 13-6
Jackson State 19-7
New Orleans 19-2, Western Kentucky 17-4
Pepperdine 17-5
Utah 18-3, Brigham Young 19-5, New Mexico 16-5
|
| 14.83 | Where R1-2 | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Thu Feb 18 1993 15:48 | 5 |
|
Speaking of the tourney.... Where is the Round 1, 2 (northeast)
being played. I almost want to say the Meadowlands............
steve
|
| 14.84 | | ROYALT::ASHE | I missed the Billy Ray Cyrus special... | Thu Feb 18 1993 16:46 | 3 |
| I think rounds 3-4 are in the Meadowlands... Charlotte's one
round 1-2 site...
|
| 14.85 | Charlotte a Regional site | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Thu Feb 18 1993 16:51 | 7 |
| Charlotte is a regional final site which means round 3-4, where round
.eqs. game.
I myself am a proud owner of tickets for said same event. Who knows,
maybe I'll get a chance to see Dean choke to a Big East team.
TTom
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| 14.86 | | ROCK::MURPHY | Mets in '93 | Thu Feb 18 1993 17:34 | 8 |
| Round 1/2 of east - Syracuse and somewhere else further from Boston than SU
Round 3/4 in the Meadowlands
Final Fours in New Orleans.
Someone on the internet posted all sites for the next 5 years or so about two
weeks ago, I'll try to scam a copy
Murph
|
| 14.87 | | SKEWED::MCKAY | | Thu Feb 18 1993 17:47 | 3 |
| The east sites are Syracuse and Wake Forest for the first two rounds
Jimbo
|
| 14.88 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Mon Mar 01 1993 14:28 | 3 |
| Does anyone have the lastest AP College Poll?
How far did Caintuckme fall?
|
| 14.89 | Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Mon Mar 01 1993 16:21 | 39 |
| The USA-Today/CNN To 25 (which I have):
1 No Carolina 24-3 ACC
6 Duke 22-5 ACC
11 Florida St 21-8 ACC
16 Wake Forest 18-6 ACC
21 Virginia 16-8 ACC
2 Indiana 25-3 Big10
5 Michigan 22-4 Big10
15 Iowa 19-6 Big10
23 Purdue 15-8 Big10
4 Kentucky 21-3 SEC
8 Vanderbilt 23-4 SEC
13 Arkansas 18-6 SEC
7 Kansas 22-5 Big8
22 Oklahoma St 18-5 Big8
10 Cincinnati 21-4 GreatMidwest
19 Marquette 19-6 GreatMidwest
20 Tulane 20-6 Metro
25 Louisville 16-8 Metro
3 Arizona 21-2 PAC10
9 Utah 22-3 WAC
12 Seton Hall 22-6 BigEast
14 UNLV 19-4 BigWest
18 Xavier-OH 20-3 MidwesternCollegiate
17 New Orleans 23-2 SunBelt
24 Massachusetts 18-6 Atlantic10
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| 14.90 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Mar 01 1993 18:38 | 6 |
| Holy Cross lost the Patriot League title with a solid drubbing by
Bucknell. I don't know what this does to their chances at an NCAA
berth.
However, the Women defeated Bucknell and seem to be a shoo-in for the
NCAAs.
|
| 14.92 | we shall see | HBAHBA::HAAS | A Log of Effort | Mon Mar 01 1993 20:18 | 9 |
| Arizona has all but locked up the #1 seed in the West. UNLV or Utah might
be the second seed, depending on how the rest of the games turn out.
Problem with Arizona is that they haven't played anyone (OK, almost
anyone). Certainly nothing like the schedules required for the ACC or
Big10. It will be interesting to see how well prepared they are for, say,
Michigan.
TTom
|
| 14.93 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | The Peter Principle in action | Tue Mar 02 1993 11:05 | 4 |
|
Arizona's #3 ranking is more a testament to their soft schedule
in the Slack 10 than it is to just how good they are. If they make
the Final Four, I'll come to work in a prom dress.
|
| 14.94 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Quit dancin' on that table! | Tue Mar 02 1993 13:24 | 3 |
| re-1,
Don't forget the charmin!
|
| 14.95 | Thompson about a 7.... | CNTROL::CHILDS | Teach a man to fish and he'll eat forever | Tue Mar 02 1993 15:39 | 5 |
|
Lute wasted almost as much talent as Dean.....check that on a scale of
1 to 10 for wasting talent, Lute's about 4 while Dean is a 12...
mike
|
| 14.96 | Predictions for top four seeds | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | I want a real adventure! | Wed Mar 03 1993 18:47 | 13 |
| I predict #2 seed in the West will be Duke, with Arizona #1,
Utah #3, and Seton Hall #4.
Michigan will be #2 in the East, behind the Heels. Vanderbilt #3
and UNLV #4.
In the Midwest, #1 Kentucky, #2 Cincinnati, #3 Wake Forest, and
#4 Tulane.
In the Southeast, #1 Indiana, #2 Kansas, #3 Florida State, and #4
Arkansas.
NAZZ
|
| 14.97 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Mike Monroe is as good as dead!!! | Thu Mar 04 1993 13:28 | 7 |
|
First team all-American (imo): Cheaney, Mashburn, Robinson, Hardeway and
Allan Houston....
second: Webber, Mills, Lynch, Van Exel, Hurley.
mike
|
| 14.98 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Pay for Demo.Congress decades | Thu Mar 04 1993 14:34 | 4 |
| East: #1 UNC, #2 Vandy, #3 Seton Hall, #4 Iowa
SE: #1 Kentucky, #2 Michigan, #3 Cinci, #4 Wake Forest
ME: #1 Indiana, #2 Kansas, #3 FSU, #4 Arkansas
West: #1 Arizona, #2 Duke, #3 Utah, #4 UNLV
|
| 14.99 | | SKEWED::MCKAY | | Fri Mar 05 1993 11:41 | 23 |
| Arizona a #1 seed...not anymore! Lose to Cal last night on the
midnight madness game by 2 or 3.
It's too early to pick the seeds because there are still games left
but if I must.
East: Duke
SE: Kentucky
ME: Indiana
West: Michigan
First team AA - top 5 players no positions
Hardaway, Glenn Robinson, Mashburn, Rodney Rogers, J.R
Rider
Second Team AA -
Webber, Chaeney, Mills, G. Hill, B. McCaffery
BiG East First team
Dehere, Donyell Marshall, Moten, Curley, O. Harrington
jimbo
|
| 14.101 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Come on Eileen, ta-loorayah.. | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:20 | 12 |
| Wow Jimbo... no Hurley in your top 10? Don't you listen to hype?
1st team? Hardaway, Webber (has more talent around him, doesn't get
a chance to dominate), Mashburn, Chaeney, Hurley (sigh, had to do it)
2nd team: Robinson, Hill, Mills, Mccafferey, Rider
Top seeds:
East: UNC, Cincinnati, Arkansas, Iowa
Midwest: Indiana, Kansas, FSU, Seton Hall
SE: Kaintucky,Duke,Utah, Memphis State
West: Michigan, Arizona,Wake Forest,UNLV
|
| 14.102 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:56 | 1 |
| What the heck are student atheletes doing playing at midnight anyway?
|
| 14.103 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Fri Mar 05 1993 14:03 | 6 |
|
Most college students I know frequently play at midnight so why should
student atheletes be any different??
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.105 | | SKEWED::MCKAY | | Fri Mar 05 1993 14:51 | 8 |
| Mac Mac Mac....I have seen you still in Rugby gear well past the
hour of midnight at WPI. I wouldn't actually call it playing
but....8*)
BTW east coast teams have played at midnight for ESPN. The main reason
is money and exposure.
Jimbo
|
| 14.106 | Where's Vandy? | DYPSS1::ROPER | NOTRE DAME: College Football Mecca. | Fri Mar 05 1993 19:48 | 19 |
| re .101
>>Top seeds:
>>East: UNC, Cincinnati, Arkansas, Iowa
>>Midwest: Indiana, Kansas, FSU, Seton Hall
>>SE: Kaintucky,Duke,Utah, Memphis State
>>West: Michigan, Arizona,Wake Forest,UNLV
Did you forget Vanderbilt, or do you think they're not one of the top
16 teams in the country?
Vandy is solid this year. They are much like Kentucky of a year ago.
Expect Vandy to be in the Final 8 with a good shot at the Final 4. I
look for them to be no lower than a 3 seed, and they may get a number 2
depending on how well they do in next weeks SEC tourny.
- Bob Roper
|
| 14.108 | | ROYALT::ASHE | T. Kennedy: Good senator, bad date | Sat Mar 06 1993 03:23 | 11 |
| I forgot them, I thought I was forgetting one big team...
>>Top seeds:
>>East: UNC, Cincinnati, Arkansas, Iowa
>>Midwest: Indiana, Kansas, Vandy, FSU
>>SE: Kaintucky,Duke, Wake, Seton Hall
>>West: Michigan, Arizona,Utah,UNLV
Better?
|
| 14.109 | hopefully with a different results... | CNTROL::CHILDS | Mike Monroe is as good as dead!!! | Mon Mar 08 1993 11:43 | 15 |
|
Tommy, that's was pretty eloquent way fo putting that Vandy suffers from WMD...
;^)
I saw the game the other night against Tennessee. Couldn't believe it 5 white
guys on the court all at once? no how no way. While the white boys brought em'
back, bro' Micmanan delievered em'...
Also I would think that Kentucky and Arkansas certainly would qualify as
athletic teams and my guess is Vandy atleast split with these guys....
I think it could be a repeat of '89.....
mike
|
| 14.111 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Mar 08 1993 12:33 | 2 |
| Calipari was named A-10 coach of the year. UMass, as expected, has
advanced to the semis of the A-10 tournament.
|
| 14.112 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Mon Mar 08 1993 14:15 | 30 |
| Teams that have clinched NCAA tournament spots:
Arizona Wildcats 22-3 (Pacific Ten)
Pennsylvania Quakers 21-4 (Ivy)
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 22-9 (Big South)
Tennessee State Tigers 19-9 (Ohio Valley)
Indiana Hoosiers 26-3 (Big Ten)
Coppin State Eagles 22-8 (Mideastern Athletic)
Tennessee-Chattanooga Moccasins 26-6 (Southern)
Northeast Louisiana Indians 26-4 (Southland)
Tonight:
James Madison 21-7 vs East Carolina 12-16 (Colonial, Richmond VA)
Niagara 23-5 at Manhattan 22-6 (Metro Atlantic, Albany NY)
Illinois State 22-9 vs Southern Illinois 22-9 (Mo.Valley, St.Louis MO)
New Orleans 26-2 vs Western Kentucky 23-5 (Sun Belt, Biloxi MS)
Pepperdine 22-6 vs Santa Clara 17-11 (West Coast, San Fransisco CA)
Tomorrow:
Wagner 18-11 at Rider 18-10 (Northeast, Lawrenceville NJ)
Cleveland State 22-5 or Illinois-Chicago 16-14 vs
Wright State 18-9 or Valparaiso 12-15 (Mid-Continent, Dayton OH)
Wednesday:
Holy Cross 22-6 at Bucknell 23-5 (Patriot, Lewisburg PA)
Drexel 21-6 or Hartford 14-13 vs
Northeastern 20-7 or Delaware 20-7 (North Atlantic, at highest seed)
Thursday:
Massachusetts 21-6 or Rhode Island 18-9 vs
St.Joseph's 18-9 or Temple 16-11 (Atlantic Ten, at highest seed)
|
| 14.113 | Upsets allow fewer at-large teams into the field | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | I want a real adventure! | Tue Mar 09 1993 13:19 | 7 |
| Four teams with 21 or more wins lost last night in conference finals.
Do Pepperdine, James Madison, New Orleans, and Niagara still go to the
NCAAs despite losing Monday?
I say yes to UNO and Pepperdine, no to JMU and Niagara.
NAZZ
|
| 14.114 | I know I can't go on without Lefty in my life... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Mar 09 1993 13:31 | 15 |
|
> Four teams with 21 or more wins lost last night in conference finals.
> Do Pepperdine, James Madison, New Orleans, and Niagara still go to the
> NCAAs despite losing Monday?
It's that time of year again: I flipped over to ESPN for about five
minutes only to be assaulted by the obnoxious whining of Dick Vitale,
plugging away for poor, poor Lefty Dreisell and his James Madison five.
"Oh, Lefty belongs there, we *NEED* The Lefthander, BA-BEE, not some
.500 big conference team". I still say that if you hold the conference
tournament and an undeserving team takes you out, you're SOL. Work it
out within your own conference...
glenn
|
| 14.115 | No way Glenn! I *NEED* my Lefty fix! | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | D-FENS | Tue Mar 09 1993 15:02 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.116 | | ROYALT::ASHE | T. Kennedy: Good senator, bad date | Tue Mar 09 1993 18:11 | 4 |
| UNO's a lock. Don't know enough about Pepperdine and JMU. I think
Glenn doesn't want him because Uncle Ralph's an assistant coach and
he might go after a Sichting type (smiley goes here...).
|
| 14.117 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie has a tooth!!! | Tue Mar 09 1993 18:23 | 3 |
| 14.118 | | ROYALT::ASHE | T. Kennedy: Good senator, bad date | Tue Mar 09 1993 19:02 | 1 |
| Sea Delico ROOOLZ!!!
|
| 14.119 | | SKEWED::MCKAY | | Wed Mar 10 1993 14:34 | 5 |
| UNO is a lock. I had them and W. Kentucky going as long as one of
them won the tourney. Dolly Madison rides into the NIT. Pepperdine
is on the bubble but probably will get the nod.
Jimbo
|
| 14.120 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Wed Mar 10 1993 15:54 | 5 |
| I agree UNO is in. Pepperdine is on the bubble but is probably
not in. The latest RPI ratings (used by the NCAAs) had Pepperdine
as the 67th team, Niagara as 68th. We know several teams below
Pepperdine will be in the tournament, and the Waves have not played
well recently (losing to Gonzaga and Santa Clara in last 4 games).
|
| 14.121 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | MARCHMadness, Fall ofthe UNC Empire | Thu Mar 11 1993 11:26 | 6 |
|
Alright the Holy Cross Crusaders are going to the show!!!! They thumped Bucknell
good last night 98-73 at Bucknell....I sure would love to see them meet UNC and
send them packin'
mike
|
| 14.122 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | D-FENS | Thu Mar 11 1993 17:29 | 4 |
| 14.123 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 15 1993 03:54 | 4 |
| Who is running the NCAA contest this year??
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.124 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie has a tooth!!! | Mon Mar 15 1993 13:20 | 4 |
| 14.125 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 15 1993 14:19 | 8 |
| Ok I'll do the NCAA contest this year. I'll post the matchups later
today. All entries must be in by noon on Thursday. Besides posting, please
also email them to me at metsny::francus.
If I recall correctly 1 point for a first round win, 2 for 2nd, 4 for 3rd,
8 for 4th, 16 for semis, 32 for finals - is that right??
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.126 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Mar 15 1993 14:41 | 5 |
| 14.127 | NCAA brackets | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 15 1993 15:40 | 111 |
| Ok just email to me, here are the brackets (long)
The Crazy Met
East
(1) North Carolina, 28-4 vs.
(16) East Carolina, 13-16 -----|
|-------|
(8) Rhode Island, 18-10 vs. -----| |
(9) Purdue, 18-9 |
|--------|
(5) St. John's, 18-10 vs. | |
(12) Texas Tech, 18- 11 -----| | |
|-------| |
(4) Arkansas, 20-8 vs. -----| |
(13) Holy Cross, 23-6 |
|--------|
(6) Virginia, 19-9 vs. | |
(11) Manhattan 22-6 -----| | |
|-------| | |
(3) Massachusetts, 23-6 vs. -----| | | |
(14) Pennsylvania, 22-4 | | |
|--------| |
(7) New Mexico St., 25-7 vs. | |
(10) Nebraska, 20-10 -----| | |
|-------| |
(2) Cincinnati, 24-4 vs. -----| |
(15) Coppin St., 22-7 |
|
|--------|
Midwest | |
| |
(6) California, 19-8 | |
(11) LSU, 22-10 -----| | |
|-------| | |
(3) Duke, 23-7 -----| | | |
(14) Southern Illinois, 23-9 | | |
|--------| | |
(7) BYU, 24-8 | | | |
(10) SMU, 20-7 -----| | | | |
|-------| | | |
(2) Kansas, 25-6 -----| | | |
(15) Ball St., 26-7 | | |
|--------| |
(1) Indiana, 28-3 | |
(16) Wright St., 20-9 -----| | |
|-------| | |
(8) New Orleans, 26-3 -----| | | |
(9) Xavier, 23-5 | | |
|--------| |
(5) Oklahoma St., 19-8 | |
(12) Marquette, 20-7 -----| | |
|-------| |
(4) Louisville, 20-9 -----| |
(13) Delaware, 22-7 |
|
|--------
Southeast |
|
(6) Kansas St., 19-10 |
(11) Tulane, 21-8 -----| |
|-------| |
(3) Florida St., 22-9 -----| | |
(14) Evansville, 23-6 | |
|--------| |
(7) Western Ky., 24-5 | | |
(10) Memphis St., 20-12 -----| | | |
|-------| | |
(2) Seton Hall, 27-6 -----| | |
(15) Tennessee St., 19- 9 | |
|--------| |
(1) Kentucky, 26-3 | | |
(16) Rider, 19-10 -----| | | |
|-------| | | |
(8) Utah, 23-6 -----| | | | |
(9) Pittsburgh, 17-10 | | | |
|--------| | |
(5) Wake Forest, 19-8 | | |
(12) Tenn.- Chattanooga, 26-6 -----| | | |
|-------| | |
(4) Iowa, 22-8 -----| | |
(13) Northeast La., 25-4 | |
| |
|--------|
West |
|
(6) Illinois, 18-12 |
(11) Long Beach St., 22-9 -----| |
|-------| |
(3) Vanderbilt, 26-5 -----| | |
(14) Boise St., 21-7 | |
|--------| |
(7) Temple, 17-13 | | |
(10) Missouri, 19-13 -----| | | |
|-------| | |
(2) Arizona, 24-3 -----| | |
(15) Santa Clara, 18-11 | |
|--------|
(1) Michigan, 26-4 |
(16) Coastal Carolina, 22-9 -----| |
|-------| |
(8) Iowa St., 20-10 -----| | |
(9) UCLA, 22-9 | |
|--------|
(5) New Mexico, 24-6 |
(12) George Washington, 19-8 -----| |
|-------|
(4) Georgia Tech, 19-10 -----|
(16) Southern, 20- 9
|
| 14.128 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 13:58 | 11 |
| So far I have entries from
cntrol::childs
mkfsa::long
ricks::murphy
metsny::francus - sent a copy to Mike C.
tnpubs::nazzaro
remember entries must be in by NOONon Thursday.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.129 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 14:04 | 4 |
| Oh yeah, as a tie-breaker send me the total points scored in the
Championship game.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.130 | Minutemen-Wolverines: tough to pick a winner | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - 2-time A10 Champ! | Tue Mar 16 1993 14:10 | 4 |
| Re. -1: Don't think that's necessary for my entry, since few other
people will pick a UMass-Michigan final!
NAZZ
|
| 14.131 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 14:19 | 3 |
| Nazz, thanks for indulging me anyway.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.132 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 14:51 | 7 |
| Change in NCAA contest scoring.
I checked the rules from previous years and the scoring is 1 point for
round of 64, 2 for round of 32, 3 for round of 16, 4 for round of 8,
5 for semis, 6 for championship.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.133 | Another NCAA contest on the USENET | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Mar 16 1993 15:12 | 253 |
|
Mr. Moderator: I don't know if this is okay to post here,but for anyone
wanting to try one of those NCAA tournament pick all games contests,I
found this on the Usenet.
Article: 30890
From: erwinaw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Anthony W Erwin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: TOURNAMENT POOL
Date: 15 Mar 1993 04:22:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
I have decided to run a little tournament pool over the network. There
is no gambling involved.
Here are the instructions:
1. Put each selection on a single line with a carriage return
immediately following each selection.
2. Put each selection on the line that corresponds to the
numbers given below.
3. Spell each selection EXACTLY as it appears below.
4. The winner will be the one to miss the least amount of
games.
5. Entries not in the specified format will be discarded.
6. Entries must be received by noon EST on
Thursday March 18, 1993.I
NOTE: My entry is located at the end of the post. It should serve
as an example of the correct format.
#'s 1-32 are first round games
#'s 33-48 are second round games
#'s 49-56 are regional semifinals
#'s 57-60 are regional finals
#'s 61-62 are national semifinals
#63 is the NCAA Champion
1993 NCAA DIVISION I MEN'S BASKETBALL PAIRINGS
Note: In the Final Four West meets Southeast and East meets Midwest.
EAST:
1 UNC
1
16 ECU
33
8 Rhode Island
2
9 Purdue
49
5 St. John's
3
12 Texas Tech
34
4 Arkansas
4
13 Holy Cross
57
2 Cincy
5
15 Coppin St.
35
7 New Mexico State
6
10 Nebraska
50
6 Virginia
7
11 Manhattan
36
3 UMASS
8
14 Penn
61
MIDWEST:
1 Indiana
9
16 Wright State
37
8 New Orleans
10
9 Xavier
51
5 Oklahoma State
11
12 Marquette
38
4 Louisville
12
13 Delaware
58
2 Kansas
13
15 Ball State
39
7 BYU
14
10 SMU
52
6 Cal
15
11 LSU
40
3 Duke
16
14 Southern Illinois
63
SOUTHEAST:
1 Kentucky
17
16 Rider
41
8 Utah
18
9 Pitt
53
5 Wake Forest
19
12 Tenneseee - Chattanooga
42
4 Iowa
20
13 Northeast Louisiana
59
2 Seton Hall
21
15 Tennessee State
43
7 Western Kentucky
22
10 Memphis State
54
6 Kansas State
23
11 Tulane
44
3 FSU
24
14 Evansville
62
WEST:
1 Michigan
25
16 Coastal Carolina
45
8 Iowa State
26
9 UCLA
55
5 New Mexico
27
12 George Washington
46
4 Georgia Tech
28
13 SWAC winner
60
2 Arizona
29
15 Santa Clara
47
7 Temple
30
10 Mizzou
56
6 Illinois
31
11 Long Beach State
48
3 Vanderbilt
32
14 Boise State
*******************************************************************
Here is a my entry: (Your's should be look similar to this)
UNC
Purdue
St. John's
Arkansas
Cincy
New Mexico State
Virginia
UMASS
Indiana
Xavier
Oklahoma St.
Louisville
Kansas
BYU
Cal
Duke
Kentucky
Utah
Wake Forest
Iowa
Seton Hall
Memphis State
Kansas State
FSU
Michigan
Iowa State
New Mexico
Georgia Tech
Arizona
Mizzou
Illinois
Vanderbilt
UNC
St. John's
Cincy
Virginia
Indiana
Louisville
Kansas
Duke
Kentucky
Iowa
Seton Hall
FSU
Michigan
Georgia Tech
Arizona
Illinois
UNC
Virginia
Indiana
Duke
Kentucky
FSU
Michigan
Illinois
UNC
Indiana
FSU
Michigan
Indiana
Michigan
Indiana
My final four is Indiana, UNC, Michigan, and FSU. I pick Indiana to
win it.
Sincerely,
Tony Erwin
--
erwinaw@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
GO HOOSIERS!
PEROT '96
"Even a blind squirrel will find an acorn once in awhile."
|
| 14.134 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 15:29 | 5 |
| Dave,
See note 14.125
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.135 | Yet another NCAA contest | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | First weekend of sunburn season | Tue Mar 16 1993 15:54 | 14 |
|
Bored with the typical MArch Madness contests? Too busy to take the
time to fill in all the games? How about a new idea:
The Firsted Annual ACC Crisp Deathwatch Contest
The Rules:
Pick both the day UNC does their annual Snuffy choke AND the day ACC
Crisp reappears in Sports.note. Whoever's total is closest to the
actual days is the winner.
You can send you entries to me, but it'd be more fun to post them in
here.
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| 14.136 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:13 | 6 |
| Ok Brews, I'll start it off.
UNC loses in the round of 16. ACC Chris surprises us all and is in
the notesfile on Monday after a weekend of deep mourning.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.137 | Go Redmen, Panthers and Pirates..... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:23 | 6 |
|
I agree St Johns beats NC in the round of 16 and ACCRisp
comes in the next day and says he knew they weren't that good anyways.
Chappy
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| 14.138 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | Inside Intel | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:37 | 5 |
| You guys ain't gonna make me dream up some sort of tie breaker, are
you?
brews, not worried cause he knows there's no chance of Chris coming in
the day after UNC loses.
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| 14.139 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:40 | 5 |
| Of course we want you to come up with a tie breaker. It would give
some indication, though obviously not proof,
that you have brain wave activity :-)
The Crazy Met
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| 14.140 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:46 | 6 |
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I'll go with a close loss in the final game. Carolina fans haven't
had their guts really torn out in some time...
glenn
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| 14.141 | Only half done, Glenn | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:48 | 5 |
| Glenn,
when does ACC Chris come back into the notesfile??
The Crazy Met
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| 14.142 | Never... vanishes ad infinitum... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Mar 16 1993 16:51 | 1 |
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| 14.143 | either that or UNC will lose to Arkansas | DUGROS::ROSS | Another mouth to feed | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:12 | 4 |
| I predict a UNC title followed three days later (to allow for sufficient
crow to be eaten) by a single entry from ACChris:
"Dean>Bob"
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| 14.144 | won't last long | FRETZ::HEISER | there's a Whacko in Waco | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:26 | 1 |
| I picked the Razorbacks over UNC.
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| 14.145 | | FDCV06::KING | OH NO!!!! I'm a bubba!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:44 | 3 |
| INdiani will beat UNC, April 3rd, Acc will not appear until april 30th.
REK
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| 14.146 | Had to put the year in | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - 2-time A10 Champ! | Tue Mar 16 1993 19:46 | 4 |
| URI shoots 65% from the field, stuns UNC 82-78 in 2nd round. Chris
appears to take his medicine like a man sometime in the fall of 1993.
NAZZ
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| 14.147 | Duke trashes Heels when it counts! | GIAMEM::SCHOTT | | Wed Mar 17 1993 13:32 | 9 |
| After an ACC-biased ref "robs" UMASS in the Grate Eight round,
and allows the Heels to escape with their lives, Cha-Cha-Shev-Ski will
coach rings arounds Deano in the first game of the Final Four, and
the Dookies will once again prevail against the Baby Blews.
ACC Chris will immediately reappear, and assert the supremacy of
the ACC.
Russ
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| 14.148 | You heard it here first | ISLNDS::REEVE | | Wed Mar 17 1993 15:50 | 0 |
| 14.149 | retry | ISLNDS::REEVE | | Wed Mar 17 1993 15:57 | 0 |
| 14.150 | absolutely free! | SKEWED::MCKAY | | Wed Mar 17 1993 16:11 | 0 |
| 14.151 | UNLV was robbed again | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Wed Mar 17 1993 17:14 | 2 |
| I can't believe a team ranked in the top 25 for most of the season is
not one of the 64 best in the country.
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| 14.152 | contest entries so far | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Wed Mar 17 1993 18:14 | 21 |
| So far I have the following entries:
cntrol::childs
metsny::francus
ricks::murphy
tnpubs::nazzaro
mkfsa::long
share::derry
usdev::tblanchard
fretz::heiser - guess who he picked to win it all
wmois::chappalonis
cupmk::scopa
kyoa::lazarus
wonder::reilly
tnpubs::mccullough
Entries are due by NOON tomorrow.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.153 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | UNC-ExcellentLossInWaiting | Wed Mar 17 1993 19:04 | 3 |
| It's all about Rider MikeH. Consider it an "unofficial ban".
/Don
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| 14.154 | pretty sorry | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Wed Mar 17 1993 21:44 | 6 |
| I guess so Slasher. They even won more than 20 games.
BTW - Name 1 thing the NIT has that the NCAA does not in this year's
tournaments.
A team without a losing record!
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| 14.155 | scores? | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Thu Mar 18 1993 12:06 | 5 |
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Is anyone going to post updated scores of the games today?
steve
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| 14.156 | Univ. of Vermont women's team looses | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Thu Mar 18 1993 12:47 | 15 |
|
Yabbut in a "typical, it was expected" section of the sprots nooz,
In the Wimmins NCAA Tournament, the NCAA consecutive winning league
game record holding team of the University of Berrmont Wimmin were ousted
in the 1st round, loosing to the Rutgers Scarlet Knights.
They finished the season at 28-1. The interesting sidebar is that they
duplicated last year's performance, finishing undefeated in league
competition and then getting booted in the 1st round!
I remain,
occasionally yer (Wimmins) sprots reporter,
Kev
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| 14.157 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 14:27 | 28 |
| Picks for the contest are due by NOON today - about 1/2 hour from now.
Ihave entries from
cntrol::childs
francus
tnpubs::nazzaro
mkfsa::long
share::derry
usdev::tblanchard
fretz::heiser
wmois::chapalonis_m
cupmk::scopa
kyoa::lazarus
wonder::reilly
tnpubs::mccullough
hbahba::haas
bss::jcotanch
plugh::needle
refine::ashe
fdcv07::king
cadsys::cave
snax::erickson
nac::g_waugaman
The Crazy Met
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| 14.158 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 15:39 | 26 |
| Got 23 entries:
Consensus has either Indiana or Michigan winning it all. A quick
look at the chamionship game picks
Team In Championship Wins it All
Michigan 12 7
Indiana 12 6
Seton Hall 5 4
Kentucky 4 3
Arizona 1 1 - anyone guees who made this pick? /
Florida State 1 1
Cincinatti 1 1
North Carolina 3 0
Duke 2 0
Kansas 2 0
UMass 1 0
New Mexico St. 1 0
California 1 0
7 people had an Indiana vs. Michigan final
Let the games begin!
The Crazy Met
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| 14.159 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 15:44 | 7 |
| Scores so far:
SJU 33-23
FSU 10 Evansville 9
Kanss 7 Ball St 2
The Crazy Met
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| 14.160 | Updates mailer | ROCK::MURPHY | Vitale Stands on Head! | Thu Mar 18 1993 15:49 | 5 |
| I am at home watching I have a mail list if you wnaty updates.
Send me to get on the list.
Murph
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| 14.161 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 15:52 | 4 |
| SJU 36-33
FSU 29-18 Evansville
The Crazy Met
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| 14.162 | Thank Murph for the updates | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 15:58 | 7 |
| Cain to Foster for 2 and Cain withe a putback for 2 more puts SJU
up 40-37 at half. Middleton getting his share of boards, Tech
hitting from 3. SJU jumped out 9-0 and 33-23 but Tech actually led
37-36 for their only lead so far.
Murph
The Crazy Met
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| 14.163 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 16:05 | 7 |
| SJU 40-37
KU 32-29 Ball St
FSU 36 Evansville 22 FSU 18-0 run after 18-18.Murph
Murph
The Crazy Met
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| 14.164 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 16:32 | 6 |
| SJU 55-50.
Cain 9 pts. 8 Assists. Scott picks up 3rd foul. Flemons of Tech
handling him easily on offense (20 pts)
11:00 left
The Crazy Met
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| 14.165 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 16:45 | 6 |
| 65-60 SJU
Kansas 55 BSU 51 - wow! didn't expect Ball State to even be close.
FSU 59 Evansville 39
The Crazy Met
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| 14.166 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 16:49 | 3 |
| SJU 72 Tech 63 5 min left
The Crazy Met
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| 14.167 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:03 | 5 |
| SJU 81-63, 2:00 left
Kansas 70 Ball St 61
Murph
The Crazy Met
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| 14.168 | Big East wins one | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:07 | 5 |
| St John's Wins by the score of 85-67
Kansas 75, Ball St. 67 7:30 left (high scorinbg affair!)
Murph
The Crazy Met
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| 14.169 | | SALEM::DIFRUSCIA | | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:12 | 2 |
| sju 85 tech 67
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| 14.170 | 2-0 after tonight...../ | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:12 | 7 |
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Way to go Redmen
BE 1-0
Chappy
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| 14.171 | Final: Florida St 82, E'ville 70 | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:17 | 0 |
| 14.172 | Kansas 94 Ball State 72 | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:27 | 2 |
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The Crazy Met
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| 14.173 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:34 | 6 |
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Has there been a year where the top seeds all made it to the
final 4??
The Crazy Met
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| 14.174 | | CAMONE::WAY | Lunatic fringe, I know you're out there | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:48 | 6 |
| Duh --
color me stupid, but what tech was it that SJU was playing, Georgia Tech?
'Saw
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| 14.175 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:51 | 6 |
| Texas Tech was playing SJU. 'Saw if you had been man enough to enter the
NCAA contest (apologies to Karen) you would have known that.
Mike Childs and Steve Nazzaro are picking all the wrong underdogs, so far.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.176 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Thu Mar 18 1993 18:07 | 6 |
| First Half Scores:
Arkansas 17, Holy Cross 8
Kansas State 9, Tulane 2
Brigham YOung 2, Southern Methodist 0
Long Beach State 14, Illinois 10
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| 14.177 | | CAMONE::WAY | Lunatic fringe, I know you're out there | Thu Mar 18 1993 18:15 | 13 |
| >Texas Tech was playing SJU. 'Saw if you had been man enough to enter the
>NCAA contest (apologies to Karen) you would have known that.
I don't usually enter contests in here, and I doubt that I could tell you
who all four #1 seeds are.
Maybe tonight, if I ever get out of here, I can pull out the paper that
had the grid in it and see who's who.....
'Saw
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| 14.178 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 18:18 | 4 |
| Ark 38 HC 23 3 min left
LBSU 30 Ill 26
KSU 18 Tulane 20
SMU 15 BYU 29
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| 14.179 | Still got a few underdog picks left | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - 2-time A10 Champ! | Thu Mar 18 1993 18:18 | 5 |
| Re. -2:
Thanks for noticing, TCM. :-(
NAZZ
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| 14.180 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Thu Mar 18 1993 18:33 | 9 |
| Half-time: Arkansas 45, Holy Cross 32
Long Beach State 33, Illinois 32
First Half: Tulane 28, Kansas State 26
Brigham Young 31, Southern Methodist 22
Finals: St.John's 85, Texas Tech 67
Florida State 82, Evansville 70
Kansas 94, Ball State 72
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| 14.181 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Thu Mar 18 1993 18:46 | 11 |
| Second Half: Long Beach State 33, Illinois 32
Half-time: Arkansas 45, Holy Cross 32
Tulane 28, Kansas State 26
First Half: Brigham Young 34, Southern Methodist 29
Finals: St.John's 85, Texas Tech 67
Florida State 82, Evansville 70
Kansas 94, Ball State 72
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| 14.182 | I guess Amherst is too far west | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Mar 18 1993 18:51 | 2 |
| I find it interesting that Holy Cross and not UMASS are the darlings of
the Boston media.
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| 14.184 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:04 | 11 |
| Second Half: Arkansas 58, Holy Cross 38
Kansas State 33, Tulane 30
Illinois 52, Long Beach State 46
Half-time: Brigham Young 37, Southern Methodist 33
Finals: St.John's 85, Texas Tech 67
Florida State 82, Evansville 70
Kansas 94, Ball State 72
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| 14.185 | Holy Cross! | ASABET::M_BARRY | | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:08 | 29 |
|
I'm not a Holy Cross fan, not by any stretch of the imagination.
But there's a lot of reasons why HC would be a more appealing sports
story right now. This is the smallest school in the NCAA's. They
stopped giving athletic scholarships. They are the school that gave
Cousy and Heinson to the NBA and Hall Of Fame. I believe they're also
the last (only?) New England school to ever win the NCAA tournament.
With the exception of Penn, they probably are the academically oriented
school in the tournament.
All of which make them a rarity in the tournament and a better "human
interest" sports story than UMASS.
However, none of the above is likely to help them get very far into the
tourney. This brings us to the last reason why there are quite a few HC
stories in the sportspage now: They ain't gonna be around a whole lot
longer to write about.
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| 14.186 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:18 | 6 |
| Ark 72 HC 52
LBSU 58 Ill 60 7 min
KSU 44 Tulane 44
SMU 43 BYU 48
The Crazy Met
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| 14.187 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:20 | 9 |
| Second Half: Arkansas 70, Holy Cross 52
Crusaders with more turnovers than field goals.
Kansas State 44, Tulane 44
Brigham Young 48, Southern Methodist 43
Illinois 58, Long Beach State 58
Finals: St.John's 85, Texas Tech 67
Florida State 82, Evansville 70
Kansas 94, Ball State 72
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| 14.188 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:30 | 9 |
| Second Half: Arkansas 81, Holy Cross 62
Kansas State 53, Tulane 51
Brigham Young 61, Southern Methodist 51
Illinois 71, Long Beach State 70 (1:20 left, CSLB ball, timeout)
Finals: St.John's 85, Texas Tech 67
Florida State 82, Evansville 70
Kansas 94, Ball State 72
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| 14.189 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:33 | 7 |
| 14.190 | Couch potato wannabe...... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:37 | 4 |
|
Whats the Tv Coverage tonight will CBS be covering the games from 8:00
til the end?
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| 14.191 | Green Wave beats Kansas St | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:39 | 7 |
| Very good Tulane-Kansas St game just got over.
Not great basketball - lot of turnovers, especially at the end when it
counted - but good competition. Tulane wins by 2, 55-53 as Kansas St
couldn't get a shot off at the end.
TTom
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| 14.192 | | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:44 | 4 |
| Nuts!!! Good thing I didn't pick KSU to go any further.
Billl
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| 14.193 | Go Green Wave! One of my minor upsets comes through... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:49 | 1 |
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| 14.194 | BYU beats SMU | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:52 | 4 |
| BYU just beat SMU, hitting something like 10-12 free throws down the
strecth. 80-71.
TTom
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| 14.196 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Mar 18 1993 19:57 | 6 |
| After 7 games, Chappy and Glenn W. are a perfect 7 for 7.
Lots of folks have 5 or 6 of 7.
Then there are folks like Childs and Nazz ...
The Crazy Met
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| 14.197 | this ones for ACC-C - he was a tad then | AKOCOA::BREEN | NIT=fun;NCAA=Politics | Thu Mar 18 1993 20:00 | 11 |
| re. kansas state
Back in 75, 76 NC came to Prov. Civic center with K.state to play
Syracuse and BC; ks beats BC with Evans heating it up in 2nd game but..
NC with the Davis boys and Kupchak, Jones? gets beat by Orange led by
the biggest widebody until Sir Charles early days.
Was that sweet - never thought I could root so much for a Syracuse team
speaking of sixes bc had two off the old Boston Six - Carrington and
the kid with the great afro
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| 14.198 | A regional to remember | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Thu Mar 18 1993 20:39 | 6 |
| Are you talking about the 1975 East regionals? Syracuse widebody was
named Earnie Siebert. They beat UNC in the semis on a jumper by Jim Lee
with a few seconds left.
That TarHeel team had Kupchak,LaGarde,Phil ford and Walter Davis. Jones
graduated 1974.
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| 14.199 | | ROYALT::ASHE | My name is Prince, & I smell funky | Fri Mar 19 1993 01:11 | 2 |
| How bouyt that Santa Clara? Win over Arizona...
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| 14.200 | First day thoughts | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 19 1993 04:02 | 17 |
| Arizona! What a disaster. I knew I shouldn't have picked them to go to
the west finals. And Mills was one of my 8! At least he hit that 3
pointer at the end.
Arizona has now bowed out in the 1st round two straight years-as a #3
last year and a #2 this year.
A quick comment about the CBS "coverage". Those 2:30 breaks just kill
the whole flow of the game. Yes,every TV timeout,there are several per
half,extend for 150 seconds.
Call me a complainer-I know we get the games for free,but ESPN did such
a superior job. I really enjoyed the Seton Hall garbage time while
there were several close games in other venues.
Oh well,unless they lose a wad of money the coverage will never
change.
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| 14.201 | Must be payin' a lot of bills ... | RHETT::KNORR | DECwindows Support, US/CSC | Fri Mar 19 1993 11:25 | 4 |
| Dittos to the CBS timeouts. *UNBELIEVABLY* long.
- ACC Chris
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| 14.202 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie has a tooth!!! | Fri Mar 19 1993 12:11 | 12 |
| re: CBS
There are people who don't like the switching around between games (drive my dad
nuts for instance). They complain that you watch the whole game, and then
they don't let you see the end. I personally have grown used to the ESPN style,
and really missed it.
re: 'Zona
Cough, cough
=Bob=
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| 14.203 | | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Fri Mar 19 1993 12:40 | 4 |
| One of the few good things CBS had going for it was their lead-in
music, and now they change that.
Joe
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| 14.204 | I thought for sure someone would have put them in.... | FDCV06::GARBARINO | | Fri Mar 19 1993 12:48 | 2 |
| Could someone please post the results of last night's late games ?
I've searched the (notes) world over, and haven't found anything....
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| 14.205 | Don't have the scores | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Fri Mar 19 1993 12:51 | 5 |
| Temple beat Missouri
Cal beat LSU
Seton Hall beat Tenn. State
Joe
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| 14.206 | Late details | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 19 1993 13:03 | 8 |
| Late details:
Seton Hall 81-59 over Tenn St. -Dehere had 19
Cal beats LSU on a Jason Kidd layup with 1 second left
UNC beat East Carolina by 20
Temple won by over 10 against Missouri
There goes the Big 8 again. 1-2 -will they have anyone in the sweet 16?
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| 14.207 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Fri Mar 19 1993 13:06 | 5 |
| 14.209 | 11-5 not bad so far | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Fri Mar 19 1993 14:04 | 5 |
| Sheesh...my three upset picks get beat by a combined total of 14...
one of my picks for the FinalFour gets dumped by a #15! That's
what I get for listening to Mr Heiser.
Bill
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| 14.211 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | UNC-ExcellentLossInWaiting | Fri Mar 19 1993 15:18 | 5 |
| Had to chuckle watching Arizona getting beat by a kid that could
be the poster boy for Oxy5. Hey MikeH, you better hope the state's
pro entry fares better than their college one did. 8^)
/Don
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| 14.212 | Working from home, dist list for scores send me mail | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Fri Mar 19 1993 15:49 | 7 |
| Penn leasd UMAss by 17-11 with 7:29 left in the first
half.
If you want to be on a dis list for scores send me mail.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.213 | | PLUGH::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri Mar 19 1993 16:07 | 7 |
| Penn's up 22-20 at the half. Trice and Moore each have 3 fouls, which will
kill Penn in the second half. UMass is shooting horribly from the field and
worse from the stripe. Penn's FG % is also nothing to write home about.
Pretty dull game so far, but at least the right team's winning.
j.
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| 14.214 | NC, the state, looking good | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Fri Mar 19 1993 16:07 | 5 |
| Lasted night, Lenoir-Rhyne, a local NAIA school, pulled a major upset in
their post season tourney. They beat 2-time defending champ Olkahoma
City, 85-67.
TTom
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| 14.215 | | PLUGH::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:16 | 4 |
| UMass wins it 54-50 in a close, hard-fought game. They re going to need to
play much better than this against Manhattan :-)
j.
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| 14.216 | Early finals | PLUGH::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:23 | 5 |
| Penn 50, UMass 54
Oklahoma State 64, Marquette 52 (Bryant Reeves 12-19 fg made)
Wake Forest 81, T-C 58 (big game for Rodney Rogers, close until late)
j.
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| 14.217 | gotta luv it | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:25 | 4 |
| The hated enemy in Lute & Co. choke away round 1 for the 2nd year in a
row.
Mike (of ASU)
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| 14.218 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:37 | 12 |
|
> The hated enemy in Lute & Co. choke away round 1 for the 2nd year in a
> row.
>
> Mike (of ASU)
^^^
Haw haw haw! Not associating yourself with a "loser school" again, eh
Mike (except when they almost knock off Miami in football)? ;-)
glenn
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| 14.219 | go "Big Country" | CNTROL::CHILDS | MARCHMadness, Fall ofthe UNC Empire | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:39 | 4 |
| Actually it was OKS 74 Marquette 62.. Reeves threw down 26....Rodgers threw
down 25 for Wake...
mike
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| 14.220 | you assume too much | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:42 | 3 |
| I never associated myself with that school in the way of support. I
might have commented on their surprising upsets, but never supported
them as a fan.
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| 14.221 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:47 | 9 |
|
If Eric Montross is considered such a promising NBA big man, what about
Reeves? Is he any good? Seeing him last year I thought he was a total
stiff but judging from his scoring and rebounding totals in games this
season it would appear that he might be in the Montross class, plus
he's younger, right?
glenn
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| 14.222 | You picked the choking "enemy" to go all the way, no? | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 19 1993 17:50 | 10 |
|
> I never associated myself with that school in the way of support. I
> might have commented on their surprising upsets, but never supported
> them as a fan.
My mistake, I thought you supported all the "Pro-10" schools, 'cept
maybe USC, in contest pools and otherwise...
glenn
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| 14.224 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Fri Mar 19 1993 18:13 | 4 |
| 14.225 | like Reeves | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Fri Mar 19 1993 18:34 | 12 |
| re: Reeves and Montross
Reeves at this point seems to be far ahead of where Montross was lasted
year. Montross will play in the NBA and might even start but I'll be
surprised if he's any better than that. Shaq and Zo won't have much to
worry. Not putting Montross down - hail, he's on my tourney team - but he
looks closer to Koncak than Brad Daugherty in terms of NBA talent.
Reeves is another case altogether. He shows moments of real basketball
ability. I think he'll be one of the real stars next year in college.
TTom
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| 14.226 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Fri Mar 19 1993 18:39 | 10 |
| East: Virginia 38, Manhattan 30 (half time)
Massachusetts 54, Pennsylvania 50 (final)
SE: Iowa 37, Northeast Louisiana 32 (half time)
Wake Forest 81, Tennessee-Chattanooga 58 (final)
MW: Louisville 35, Delaware 27 (half time)
Oklahoma State 74, Marquette 62 (final)
West: George Washington 42, New Mexico 34 (half time)
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| 14.227 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Fri Mar 19 1993 19:14 | 11 |
| East: Virginia 58, Manhattan 47 (9:05 left)
Massachusetts 54, Pennsylvania 50 (final)
SE: Iowa 61, Northeast Louisiana 54 (7:15 left)
Wake Forest 81, Tennessee-Chattanooga 58 (final)
MW: Louisville 66, Delaware 53 (3:05 left)
Oklahoma State 74, Marquette 62 (final)
West: George Washington 65, New Mexico 55 (about 6:00 left)
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| 14.228 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Fri Mar 19 1993 19:53 | 13 |
| East: Virginia 78, Manhattan 66 (final)
Massachusetts 54, Pennsylvania 50 (final)
SE: Iowa 82, Northeast Louisiana 69 (final)
Wake Forest 81, Tennessee-Chattanooga 58 (final)
MW: Louisville 76, Delaware 70 (final)
Oklahoma State 74, Marquette 62 (final)
West: George Washington 82, New Mexico 68 (final)
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| 14.229 | The Atlantic 10 makes a statement | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 19 1993 20:14 | 2 |
| The Atlantic 10 completes a sweep of the first round 4-0.
The ACC is now 5-0 with Georgia Tech still to play.
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| 14.230 | | FDCV06::KING | OH NO!!!! I'm a bubba!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Sat Mar 20 1993 02:09 | 5 |
| Geo tech LOSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Southern beat them...
REK
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| 14.231 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | Like a Fresh of Breath air! | Sat Mar 20 1993 02:28 | 1 |
| How bout some other scores guys...
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| 14.232 | what's wrong with this picture? | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Sat Mar 20 1993 03:21 | 6 |
| Okay so saying AZ is basketball country because of 2 highly ranked
teams makes me an automatic-loyal-diehard fan of both teams.
I've also said Florida is football country based on their NCAA
performance and number of residents on their 3 teams. Am I a fan of
all 3 teams?
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| 14.233 | OK mike..:-) | ELMAGO::BENBACA | Like a Fresh of Breath air! | Sat Mar 20 1993 03:49 | 4 |
| ENOUGH ABOUT AZ already!
SCORES...I NEED SCORES... if not that then at least who won tonights
games...I am stuck here at work and I have no access to a radio or tv.
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| 14.235 | yesterday's results | CNTROL::CHILDS | MARCHMadness, Fall ofthe UNC Empire | Sat Mar 20 1993 11:47 | 19 |
| umass 54 penn 50
virgina 78 manhattan 66
new mex st 93 nebraska 79
cinncy 93 coppin 66
wake for 81 tenn chat 58
Iowa 82 ne louis 69
kentucky 96 rider 52
utah 86 pitt 65
okie st 74 marquette 62
louiville 76 delaware 70
xavier 73 new orleans 55
indiana 97 wright st 54
geo wash 82 new mex 68
southern 93 geo tech 78
michigan 84 cos carol 53
ucla 81 iowa st 70
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| 14.236 | Prognasicator-extrordinair........NOT! | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Sat Mar 20 1993 12:53 | 5 |
| Is it just me or did everyone else in the pool get crunched from
yesterday's games?
Billl
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| 14.237 | Alan Henderson did play for IU.... | CNTROL::CHILDS | MARCHMadness, Fall ofthe UNC Empire | Sat Mar 20 1993 13:25 | 5 |
| the good think about most of the upsets is they took place out west were I'm
pretty sure everyone got slightly hurt by them but not destroyed as I would
guess 99% of the folks had Michigan coming out of the bracket anyways....
mike
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| 14.238 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sat Mar 20 1993 23:26 | 16 |
| Data from round1.
Most predicted upset was George Washington over New Mexico. Almost
half of the people in the pool called that one. Nobody called the
upsets of either Georgia Tech or Arizona.
There were 4 people who called all the first round games in one
bracket. Lots of folks got 7, some in more than 1 bracket.
Bill Long got all the first round games in the East.
Mike Heiser gott all the first round games in the Midwest.
Ron Erickson got all the first round games in the Midwest.
Glen Waugamann got all the first round games in the East.
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| 14.239 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sat Mar 20 1993 23:34 | 29 |
|
Scores after round 1:
Erickson 27
Chapalonis 26
Scopa 25
Murphy 25
Waugamann 25
Ashe 24
Heiser 24
Breen 23
Burke 23
Cave 23
Childs 23
Cotanch 23
King 23
Lazarus 23
McCullough 23
Nazzaro 23
Needle 23
Reilly 23
Francus 22
Long 22
Blanchard 21
Haas 21
Derry 20
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| 14.240 | No 3peat, end of Final Four string. Duke OUT! | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Mar 21 1993 00:09 | 8 |
| Duke lost to Cal 82-77.
Seton Hall lost to Western Kentucky.
North Carolina, Arkansas, Kansas, Florida State,Vanderbilt,
and I think Temple also advance.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.241 | | PLUGH::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Sun Mar 21 1993 14:55 | 9 |
| Gonna be some interesting matchups. I think Wake Forest will will the
Tenessee-Chatanooga/Northeast Lousiana game, Florida State looks good in the
Tulane/Evansville matchup, I like Vanderbilt in the Illinois/Boise State game,
and Southern really could make it interesting in the New Mexico/Georgia Tech
game.
:-). Geez, these contests make watching this tournament complicated :-).
j.
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| 14.242 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Mar 21 1993 17:27 | 11 |
|
Virginia beat UMAss by 15 or so. UVA had a 17 point lead, UMass closed
the gap to 4 with about 6 minutes left then UVA pulled away.
Xavier gave Indiana a scare. Indiana led by 4 with 30 seconds left and
Xavier was at the line for 2 foul shots. Xavier made 1, fouled, Indiana
made 2. Not sure what the final was but it was a tight game for
Indiana.
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| 14.243 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Mar 21 1993 22:45 | 10 |
| UCLA led Michigan by 15 in the first half. Michigan took an 8 ppoint
lead late in the 2nd half. UCLA fought back to tie. Michigan finally
won by 2 in OT.
Other teams advancing Kentucky, Cincinatti both easy winners.
Louisville by 6 or so over Oklahoma State, George Washington by 10 or
so over Southern.
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| 14.244 | Contest results after 2 rounds | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Mar 21 1993 22:45 | 40 |
|
Point totals after first two rounds of NCAA tournament follow.
1 point for each first round win, 2 for each second round winner.
A few feats worth mentioning. Bill Long called the East region perfectly;
every first and every second round game. In another amazing feat, Nazz
got all 4 teams left in the SouthEast, and more impressively the 4 teams
left in the West - with all the upsets in the West, very impressive.
Other folks who have all 4 left from a region:
Midwest - Breen, Ashe
East - Cave, Haas
Nazzaro 49
Erickson 49
Ashe 48
Scopa 47
Cave 47
McCullough 45
Haas 45
Long 44
Heiser 44
Murphy 43
Lazarus 43
King 43
Childs 43
Breen 43
Blanchard 43
Chapalonis 42
Waugamann 41
Reilly 41
Needle 41
Burke 41
Cotanch 39
Francus 36
Derry 32
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| 14.247 | | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Mon Mar 22 1993 11:55 | 6 |
| Yabbut, as good as I'm doin' in da East, I'm stinkin' up da place
in da West.
Never did like da "left" coast anywho.
Billl
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| 14.248 | Michigan ripe to be upset? | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie has a tooth!!! | Mon Mar 22 1993 12:07 | 8 |
| I think I was wrong about Michigan, I picked thime to win it all. I thought
that their talent would prevail. After watching most of their game against
Coastal Carolina, and some of yesterday's game against the Broons, it appears
that I was wrong. They seem to be sleepwalking through these early round games,
thinking that they are theirs. I suspect this will catch up with them
eventually.
=Bob=
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| 14.249 | Shaky Michigan | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Mar 22 1993 12:33 | 10 |
| I agree about Michigan. They were ready to be taken yesterday. I think
they got their wakeup call. Nobody in the west can touch them so their
next test will be in the semis.
They may raise their level by then. Their weakness really showed
yesterday.
1) Bad boxing out.
2) Poor foul shooting.
Weber is some stud.
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| 14.250 | Ramblings | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Mar 22 1993 13:00 | 23 |
| 14.251 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 22 1993 13:42 | 5 |
| fwiw Karen Derry has 33 points, not 32. I am sure this will make
the difference between her winning the contest and falling one point
short :-)
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| 14.255 | NCAA points contest - results so far from doug | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 22 1993 15:38 | 151 |
| Yoseff,
I've been trying to post the following to SPORTS, but get device full
errors. Since I'm at home this week with the new baby and not expecting
to log in very often, can you post this for me when things get straightened
out. Thanks.
-doug
Here's the current standings.... and all the entries... Players who are
no longer in the tournament have their team marked with an "*". Please
check your entry.
Entrant Name Points
----------------------
Needle, Jeff 332
Chris Reeve 324
Mike Heiser 317
McCarron, Bruce 317
Mike Childs 314
Yoseff Francus 304
Steve Nazarro 295
David Lazarus 290
Walt Ashe 275
Ross, Doug 272
Rick King 268
Rick Murphy 266
John Murphy 246
Steve Miller 239
Entrant Name Player Name Team Tot_Pts
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Chris Reeve McCaffrey, Billy Vanderbilt 55
Chris Reeve Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Chris Reeve Cassell, Sam Florida State 49
Chris Reeve Alexander, Cory Virginia 44
Chris Reeve Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Chris Reeve Hill, Grant Duke* 32
Chris Reeve Montross, Eric UNC 32
Chris Reeve Forrest, James GA Tech* 24
David Lazarus Hurley, Bobby Duke* 57
David Lazarus Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
David Lazarus Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
David Lazarus Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
David Lazarus Montross, Eric UNC 32
David Lazarus Howard, Juwan Michigan 30
David Lazarus Mills, Chris Arizona* 19
David Lazarus Williams, Harper Massachusetts* 15
John Murphy Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
John Murphy Weber, Chris Michigan 38
John Murphy Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
John Murphy Thomas, Deion Illinois* 33
John Murphy Montross, Eric UNC 32
John Murphy Sura, Bob Florida State 23
John Murphy Hill, Thomas Duke* 22
John Murphy Van Exel, Nick Cincinnati 10
McCarron, Bruce McCaffrey, Billy Vanderbilt 55
McCarron, Bruce Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
McCarron, Bruce Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
McCarron, Bruce Weber, Chris Michigan 38
McCarron, Bruce Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
McCarron, Bruce Montross, Eric UNC 32
McCarron, Bruce Hill, Grant Duke* 32
McCarron, Bruce Sura, Bob Florida State 23
Mike Childs McCaffrey, Billy Vanderbilt 55
Mike Childs Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Mike Childs Reeves, Bryant Oklahoma State* 40
Mike Childs Weber, Chris Michigan 38
Mike Childs Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Mike Childs Robinson, Glenn Purdue* 36
Mike Childs Montross, Eric UNC 32
Mike Childs Graham, Greg Indiana 28
Mike Heiser Hurley, Bobby Duke* 57
Mike Heiser Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Mike Heiser Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Mike Heiser Rozier, Cliff Louisville 39
Mike Heiser Weber, Chris Michigan 38
Mike Heiser Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Mike Heiser Mackey, Malcolm GA Tech* 27
Mike Heiser Mills, Chris Arizona* 19
Needle, Jeff McCaffrey, Billy Vanderbilt 55
Needle, Jeff Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Needle, Jeff Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Needle, Jeff McKie, Aaron Temple 49
Needle, Jeff Reeves, Bryant Oklahoma State* 40
Needle, Jeff Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Needle, Jeff Robinson, Glenn Purdue* 36
Needle, Jeff Beard, Tanoka Boise State* 15
Rick King Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Rick King Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Rick King Rozier, Cliff Louisville 39
Rick King Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Rick King Hill, Grant Duke* 32
Rick King Mackey, Malcolm GA Tech* 27
Rick King Sura, Bob Florida State 23
Rick King Van Exel, Nick Cincinnati 10
Rick Murphy Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Rick Murphy Weber, Chris Michigan 38
Rick Murphy Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Rick Murphy Thomas, Deion Illinois* 33
Rick Murphy Hill, Grant Duke* 32
Rick Murphy Montross, Eric UNC 32
Rick Murphy Jordan, Adonis Kansas 26
Rick Murphy Hardawy, Anfernee Memphis State* 17
Ross, Doug Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Ross, Doug Walters, Rex Kansas 51
Ross, Doug Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Ross, Doug Weber, Chris Michigan 38
Ross, Doug Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Ross, Doug Mills, Chris Arizona* 19
Ross, Doug Parks, Cherokee Duke* 17
Ross, Doug Van Exel, Nick Cincinnati 10
Steve Miller Hurley, Bobby Duke* 57
Steve Miller Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Steve Miller Weber, Chris Michigan 38
Steve Miller Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Steve Miller Mills, Chris Arizona* 19
Steve Miller Williams, Harper Massachusetts* 15
Steve Miller Bailey, Damon Indiana 15
Steve Miller Van Exel, Nick Cincinnati 10
Steve Nazarro Rogers, Rodney Wake Forest 59
Steve Nazarro Hurley, Bobby Duke* 57
Steve Nazarro Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Steve Nazarro Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Steve Nazarro Howard, Juwan Michigan 30
Steve Nazarro Sura, Bob Florida State 23
Steve Nazarro Williams, Harper Massachusetts* 15
Steve Nazarro Van Exel, Nick Cincinnati 10
Walt Ashe McCaffrey, Billy Vanderbilt 55
Walt Ashe Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Walt Ashe Weber, Chris Michigan 38
Walt Ashe Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Walt Ashe Thurman, Scotty Arkansas 32
Walt Ashe Forrest, James GA Tech* 24
Walt Ashe Sura, Bob Florida State 23
Walt Ashe Williams, Harper Massachusetts* 15
Yoseff Francus Cheaney, Calbert Indiana 52
Yoseff Francus Walters, Rex Kansas 51
Yoseff Francus Dehere, Terry Seton Hall* 49
Yoseff Francus Alexander, Cory Virginia 44
Yoseff Francus Weber, Chris Michigan 38
Yoseff Francus Mashburn, Jamal Kentucky 36
Yoseff Francus Mills, Chris Arizona* 19
Yoseff Francus Middleton, Phil St. Johns* 15
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| 14.257 | Big 8 embarrasses again | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Mar 22 1993 18:19 | 10 |
| Speaking of disasters:
How about the Big 8? 13 tournament selections in the last two
years,two sweet 16 berths. This conference is living off the success
of Kansas. Nebraska has been knocked out in the first round 3 of the
last 4 years and always looks bad losing. When was the last time
Missouri made the second round? Iowa State couldn't even get to its
obligatory round 2 exit.
Not every 20-9 team is tournament worthy!
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| 14.258 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | UNC-ExcellentLossInWaiting | Mon Mar 22 1993 18:25 | 4 |
| Insert sound of NCAA Selection Committee slapping forehead with
hand, "I could've had a V8"
/Don
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| 14.259 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 22 1993 19:26 | 4 |
| Of the 48 games played in rounds 1 and 2 anyone know how many teams covered
the spread??
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| 14.260 | | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Mon Mar 22 1993 19:37 | 4 |
| Yes
Billl
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| 14.261 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 22 1993 19:40 | 4 |
| Good that is a good start. For my follow up question, in how many of the
48 games in round 1 and 2 did the favorite cover the point spread?
The Crazy Met
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| 14.262 | Upsets and near misses/blowouts | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Mar 22 1993 19:48 | 1 |
| A guess: 24
|
| 14.263 | so far | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Mon Mar 22 1993 19:49 | 87 |
| 14.264 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 22 1993 19:53 | 8 |
| re: .262
Not a bad guess.
Actual number is 29-18 with one give.
Thanks TTom
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| 14.265 | very interesting | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Mon Mar 22 1993 19:58 | 11 |
| 14.266 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 22 1993 20:09 | 5 |
| I was sort of surprised that teams that were favored by 20+ points actually
covered. Often it is those games where the underdog has nothing to lose comes
out storming and keeps the game respectable.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.267 | hard to tell | HBAHBA::HAAS | Nanook Wannabe | Mon Mar 22 1993 20:21 | 17 |
| The size of the spread in college sports doesn't seem to matter as much
as pro sports. For instance, in football, you can almost make a living of
taking 14 or more points. Hail, even a double figure spread is hard to
cover in the NFL. But in college football, a 21+ point win is about as
common as a less than 3 point win.
Basketball is about the same. There seems to be limit to the number of
points they'll give any NBA team, even Dallas and Minnesota. But in
college, 20+ points is fairly common.
In a tourney it's a little different since often there's nothing to go on
to compare 2 completely different teams.
And of course, maybe someone out there can see how the ratings predicted
the outcomes. Where's Jeff Sagarin when you need him?
TTom
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| 14.268 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 22 1993 20:33 | 11 |
| re: .267
My rule of thumb in the NFL is to take the points when the spread goes
beyond 10 points (10.5+). It would be interesting to see what the real
data on that assumption is.
re: college: College football you see 30+ point spreads. Stuff you never
see in the NFL. Largest recent spread I can remember in the NFL was 49'ers
against the Pats which was 18 points or so. Pats covered.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.269 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | UNC-ExcellentLossInWaiting | Tue Mar 23 1993 14:00 | 4 |
| My rule of thumb is bet the NFC in the Super Bowl. Usually
works eh Craze?
/Don
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| 14.270 | NIT NOTE | AKOCOA::BREEN | NIT=fun;NCAA=Politics | Tue Mar 23 1993 18:50 | 18 |
| Perhaps I am only one interested in NIT, doesn't get much play.
NCAA thought they would make it extinct by expanding but NIT bounced
back with idea of hosting preliminary rounds locally and expanding
themselves. Of course gone are the Saturday quarterfinals - two in
the aft. ; two at night with Irish Steam table and a lot if beer in
between.
Has anyone been noting some of the crowds - especially west of Newton?
Somehow the mystique of NIT remains in midwest,south.. And if they make
it to semis they bring the hordes to New York with them. btw - going
back to Ralph Samson freshman year (his only title) - What is
Virginia's "local" nickname? Cavaliers is official but thems call
emselves something else which they used to chant incessantly?
USA today has diagram of pairings and I will try to post them.
oth-bill
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| 14.271 | Go G'town beat UTEP............... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Tue Mar 23 1993 19:23 | 3 |
|
I love the Nit especially this year.....:-)
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| 14.272 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Arsenio spotted with golf pants... | Tue Mar 23 1993 19:46 | 3 |
| Doc went to go see Rice lose to BC lasted night. No word on how he's
taking it...
|
| 14.273 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Tue Mar 23 1993 20:01 | 3 |
| Loss?? more like a massacre.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.274 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Mar 24 1993 12:19 | 3 |
| BC picked up an extra home game in the NIT. Instead of travelling to
Providence to take on the Friars, the game will be held at BC because
of a scheduling conflict at the Providence Civic Center.
|
| 14.275 | NIT quaterfinals | AKOCOA::BREEN | NIT=fun;NCAA=Politics | Wed Mar 24 1993 16:46 | 33 |
| NIT Quaterterfinals:
Tonight.
Boston College Providence @Conte
So. Cal Minnesota @Gopherland
SoWest Missouri Alabama - Birm. @Birmingham
Thurs.
Miami of Ohio Georgetown @Fairfax Va. (George Mason U.
My .02
Providence was my ncaa dark horse so I have to stick with em. Winner
here takes all says me.
Minny has looked good but left coast plays well in this thing. Calif.
my ncaa consolation dark horse did well in this a few years back.
SoWest Missouri is red hot.
I will pick MiamiO. Last nights Georgetown win over UTEP was at
(McDonalds) gym on campus and was a 71-44 blowout not reflective of two teams.
This semi-neutral locale may be enough for m-o. Over-under is probably 99 here.
NIT has had tough scheduling this year. Providence has had trouble
scheduling Civic Center. I notice Minn. had 18000+ Monday night.
oth-bill
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| 14.276 | Lets go HOYA'S | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:36 | 0 |
| 14.277 | Lets go hoya's | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:46 | 0 |
| 14.278 | is this twinote zone???? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Thu Mar 25 1993 17:31 | 6 |
|
Wow what happened to my replies????
Chappy
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| 14.279 | | CAMONE::WAY | Shore,Brimsek,Orr,Bourque | Thu Mar 25 1993 17:33 | 11 |
| > Wow what happened to my replies????
We've been having disk problems here in SPO, and have had to move stuff
around -- as a result there's a temporary situation where there ain't
much room on the disk sports is on. (Should be fixed by next week).
Anyway, when we run out of space, replies don't get put out there.
If you don't check an error, then sometimes it's hard to tell they never
made it.....
'Saw
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| 14.280 | look at note | HBAHBA::HAAS | Obelisk of Objective Observation | Thu Mar 25 1993 20:37 | 4 |
| As a tip, look at the replies that you post. If after you finish it says
that the note is still being written you know something "bad" happened.
TTom
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| 14.281 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin | Fri Mar 26 1993 00:55 | 2 |
| FSU wins in OT, Indiana wins too 82-69...
|
| 14.283 | Lets go hoyas | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Fri Mar 26 1993 10:43 | 14 |
|
More importantly
Georgetown beat Miami OH 66-53
Semi's are set
UAB vs The Hoyas
Minnesota vs Providence
These games are Monday at MSG
I look for an all BE Final.....
Chappy
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| 14.284 | the Kidd is done.... | ISLNDS::AREANO | There's more than one answer | Fri Mar 26 1993 11:03 | 6 |
| > Kansas 93 Cal 76
What the heck happened to Cal in the second half? Was n't the score
reasonably close at halftime?
Paul
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| 14.286 | | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Fri Mar 26 1993 11:11 | 7 |
| In Div II...
New Hampshire College beat South Dakota to advance to the semis
where they will face Troy State.
Billl
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| 14.289 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Fri Mar 26 1993 14:28 | 6 |
| Women's Elite Eight:
East: Ohio State 26-3 vs Virginia 26-5
Mideast: Tennessee 29-2 vs Iowa 26-3
Midwest: Vanderbilt 29-2 vs Louisiana Tech 26-5
West: Texas Tech 28-3 vs Colorado 27-3
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| 14.290 | Hey, is Tami Reiss back for the Lady Cadavers? | CTHQ::LEARY | WACO: WeAin'tComin'Out | Fri Mar 26 1993 14:42 | 5 |
| Yup,
Da Lady Buffs(??) knocked defending champeen Stanford outta the tourney
MikeL
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| 14.291 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Fri Mar 26 1993 14:59 | 3 |
| Did my alma mater Stephen F Austin (Ladyjacks) lose ?
John "D Cowboys" R.
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| 14.292 | | CAMONE::WAY | Shane, The Wonder Dog | Fri Mar 26 1993 15:02 | 3 |
| > Did my alma mater Stephen F Austin (Ladyjacks) lose ?
Yes.
|
| 14.293 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Fri Mar 26 1993 16:19 | 2 |
| Yes, but it was a great game vs #1 rated Vanderbilt. The
Lady Lumberjacks lost 59-56 (on their home floor, BTW).
|
| 14.294 | SFA No Sports Factory | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Fri Mar 26 1993 16:25 | 8 |
| Damn, they always get close but can never make the jump to the next
level. The Ladyjacks are the only quality team that SFA has to offer
so it sure is disappointing when they lose.
Till next year,
John "D Cowboys" R.
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| 14.295 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin | Sat Mar 27 1993 04:02 | 2 |
| Michigan, UNC, Temple and Cincy all advance...
|
| 14.297 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | I met the Monstah | Sat Mar 27 1993 23:58 | 4 |
| Bobby K ball is done fer this year.
JaKe
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| 14.298 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Mar 28 1993 00:34 | 12 |
| re: .297 YES!!!
Now if UNC can lose tomorrow ...
fwiw with Indiana's loss today no one in the NCAA selection contest
will have selected all Final 4 teams. Update on scores after tomorrows
games.
Kentucky vs. Kansas next week in one semi-final.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.299 | put a fork in me, I think I'm done! | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Sun Mar 28 1993 03:31 | 3 |
| Oh well, so much for my perfect record in the East...
billl
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| 14.300 | | GRANPA::DFAUST | With every wish,there comes a curse | Sun Mar 28 1993 11:43 | 7 |
| re: .298
The semis next Saturday will be Kansas vs. the UNC/Cincinnati winner
and Kentucky vs the Michigan/Temple winner.
Dennis Faust
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| 14.301 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Mar 28 1993 20:12 | 8 |
| UNC wins. .300 had it right. Kansas vs UNC in one semi-final.
Cinci had a 15 point lead in the first half. Game tied 66-66 at the end
of regulation. Cinci scored the first basket in OT, it was UNC the rest
of the way.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.302 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Mar 28 1993 23:56 | 36 |
| Michigan - Kentucky in the second semi-final. I think winner fo this
easily wins it all.
Contest scores through this weekend - also listed which teams are left
for each contestant.
The Crazy Met
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Name Pts Teams left
====== === ==========
Erickson 76 UNC,Kentucky,Michigan
McCullough 75 UNC,Kentucky,Michigan
Cave 74 UNC,Kentucky,Michigan
Scopa 73 UNC,Michigan
Blanchard 70 UNC,Kansas,Kentucky
Murphy 69 UNC,Michigan
Nazzaro 68 Michigan
Waugamann 67 UNC,Michigan
Lazarus 67 UNC,Michigan,Kentucky
Burke 67 UNC,Michigan
Breen 67 UNC,Kentucky,Michigan
Haas 65 UNC,Michigan
Reilly 64 Kansas,Michigan
Ashe 64 Kentucky
Needle 63 Michigan
King 63 UNC,Michigan
Childs 59 Michigan
Heiser 57 Kentucky
Francus 52 Michigan
Cotanch 52 Michigan
Long 47 Kentucky
Derry 43 UNC
Chapalonis 42 Michigan
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| 14.303 | Damn, I had an Indiana -Michigan final... | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie has a tooth!!! | Mon Mar 29 1993 13:07 | 0 |
| 14.304 | | CTHQ::LEARY | WACO: WeAin'tComin'Out | Mon Mar 29 1993 13:33 | 6 |
| Man,
If Cinci had won in OT, would Bryan Reese be this year's UNC's "GOY"
Goat of the Year. But give dem Heels credit. The better team won.
MikeL
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| 14.307 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Mon Mar 29 1993 15:04 | 9 |
| Other than Cinci the refs must have been the happiest people in the building
Reese blew the dunk at the end of regulation. Shot was definitely good given
the replay but what a tough call to have to make.
There seemed to be fewer real upsets this year, especially in the later rounds.
The regional finals were 4 #1 seeds, 2 #2 seeds, a #3 and a #7. Final 4 are
3 #1 seeds - never happened before - and a #2 seed.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.308 | | DUGROS::ROSS | Judas,B.Arnold,BobbyCremins | Mon Mar 29 1993 15:20 | 21 |
| Bobby Cremins "retired" from GA Tech and decided to become the South Carolina
coach last week. Then on Saturday, he changed his mind and reneged on the
deal. Another blow to the collective low esteem of USC. You had to see
the newspapers and press coverage to understand the impact Cremins would have
made. Columnists were claiming property values in Columbia would be going
up due to Cremins coming here.
Today's paper shows Bobby being hung in effigy down at one of the local
frat houses.
Cremins was wrong to back out, but coming to USC from GA TECH would
have been a step down. USC has one of the most braindead athletic departments
I've ever seen.
Top candidates for the job are now the coaches from either Western Kentucky
or Washington State. I'd like to see USC shoot for Mike Jarvis. Apparently
USC has asked permission to talk to John Calipari at UMASS, but the AD there
is not concerned. He was quoted as saying he'd only be concerned if Calipari
got an offer from a better program (zing!).
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| 14.309 | Seedings leads ncaa pool | AKOCOA::BREEN | NIT=fun;NCAA=Politics | Wed Mar 31 1993 13:46 | 7 |
| I calculate 80 points if one simply followed seedings in all
selections.
That would be 11,8,6,8 in se,west; 15,12,12,8 in east and midwest.
With exception of umass-virginia east followed seedings all the way and
Cal duke messed up midwest (except xavier was 9 to no's 8).
|
| 14.310 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Wed Mar 31 1993 18:06 | 5 |
| re: .309
huh?
The Crazy Met
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| 14.311 | just wanted to see how a monkey wd've picked'em | AKOCOA::BREEN | NIT=fun;NCAA=Politics | Wed Mar 31 1993 19:21 | 8 |
| re. .310
there was no point to .309 I just sat down and figured it out for
the tedium of it. If someone had simply taken the team with the lower
seeding in all games their total would be 80 and leading.
I am out of it and deservedly so after picking holy cross twice.
bill
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| 14.312 | Had to be one of the worst games I've ever seen. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Mar 31 1993 19:28 | 9 |
| > NIT=fun
If you call that 45-41 Gougetown vs. UAB dog the other night
"fun" you've got a very warped sense_a perspective.
Yuk.
- ACC Chris
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| 14.313 | | CAMONE::WAY | Shane, The Wonder Dog | Wed Mar 31 1993 19:36 | 14 |
| > If you call that 45-41 Gougetown vs. UAB dog the other night
> "fun" you've got a very warped sense_a perspective.
>
> Yuk.
Course, if it had been the Snuffmeister and his Four-Corners keeping the
score down like that, it would have been called a consumate act of
coaching skill......
hth,
'Saw
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| 14.314 | What does Gougetown vs. UAB have to do w/ Dean anyway?! | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Mar 31 1993 19:42 | 7 |
| re: 4Corners
It's been over a decade since the shot clock killed the 4 Corners.
Me_thinks you need to update your DeanBashing repetoire.
- ACC Chris
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| 14.315 | Entered just for fun - my brother | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Thu Apr 01 1993 00:55 | 47 |
|
I've been flat out with work and I'm sorry not to have been in here all
week and hopefully I'll get the time to to "play" in da lockerroom but
I wanted to let y'all know what my (older) brother (who some of ya met
a few weeks ago) is saying...
My reply is da next reply (I think)
I remain,
sorry about the biz interfearing....
Kev
From: DECWRL::"rfarley@pumps.hsc.usc.edu" "Robert Farley" 31-MAR-1993 17:35:49.47
To: csteam::farley
CC:
Subj: final 1
As promised, you will now receive the prediction from the west coast for
the new NCAA hoops champion. Since you did not respond with your favorite
at my last prompt, I assume no responsibility, and will accept no jeers
if the prediction does not prove correct. The envelope please:
final two: Kentucky vs North Carolina
final one: Kentucky
As an added bonus, you will get to watch Georgetown win the NIT tonight.
Please note: these predictions were made after having watched approximately
five halves of different games over the past year. No doubt a larger sample
size would help increase the reliability of the choices, but my experience
in previous office pools is that the person with the least information about
the teams usually wins. The ball, as they say, is in your court.
RAF
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| 14.316 | reply to my bro' | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Thu Apr 01 1993 00:59 | 61 |
|
My quick blast reply. Anti's have a blast with this!
Chris, send the $$$ to my house! ;^)
I remain,
the world's worst predictor!
Kev
From: CSTEAM::FARLEY "Competitive Hotline-MRO1-3 dtn 297-4148" 31-MAR-1993 20:47:06.88
To: DECWRL::"rfarley@pumps.hsc.usc.edu"
CC: ME
Subj: RE: final 1
Since I'm starting this at 8:25, my NIT choice is valid!
Winnah: Minnysoda
I've seen GU several times this year and I also saw the NIT semi's. Minny
is the better team. Key is the play of Joey Brown (GU) and Othello (big
but needs help). GU doesn't have the supporting cast AND Minny seems to
have the better coach (besides I don't like GU - despite Frank Rienzo
being the AD).
NCAA's:
No brainer on the final 2. Michigan has a great 5 player line-up but they
stink as a team. Key - if Michigan gets a 7 point lead early, they're
trouble but Kentucky and Pittino are a tandem that can't be beat. Ford
for player of the game. Kentucky
UNC Tar Hells are playing the best. The "all time recruiting class" of 2
years ago will easily defeat Kansas. They don't have (without a major change
in the way they play) an answer to Eric Monstrosity (UNC-center) and the UNC
outside threat. Gotta give Dean credit as a decent coach but he does have
a slight tendency to, ahem, choke in the big games. Barring Snuffy Smith
pulling a bonehead move like he did last year ("how much time?=ejected),
UNC is easy to pick.
FINALS:
I hate UNC. Their 32 appearances (with 1 win) and the Snuffy record and the
network gushing is making me sick! I really like Pittino. BUT......
The way UNC is playing, with Snuffy's coaching them, I see UNC cutting off
the nets at the end. GAWD, I hate that thought. I'm rooting for Kentucy
like you wouldn't believe but if I had $$$ on the results, I'd have to go with
UNC.
I've been flat out for 2 weeks at work, 2 got laid off (20%) and the call
rate coming + the degree of information is way up. I'm supposed to be
doing the monthly report right now because there's no time during the day
to do it but ........
We're doing OK here. As a matter of fact, I'd say we're doing very well.
We're very busy at home too so I guess that helps.
Hope your trip goes well and I'll keep in touch.
Yer bro ('case you fergot!)
Kev
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| 14.317 | bs | POCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Thu Apr 01 1993 01:35 | 7 |
| Siena starting C Jason McKinney will transfer after the current
semester.
So who cares.
Redmen Phil
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| 14.318 | Kev got the NIT, hope he misses on the NCAA | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Thu Apr 01 1993 05:10 | 11 |
| Minnesota beat Georgetown 62-61 in the NIT final (than you Gophers for
keeping Chappy and Childs from gushing in here too excessively :-).
Georgetown had a 4-5 point lead and then Spencer got called for a
technical and thrown out of the game for throwing a punch (punch
missed). Minnesota went on an 11-2 run and had a 9-11 point lead late
in the game. Georgetown scored the last 8 points (I think) and had the
ball with almost no time left on the clock at the end but could not
score the winner. Good game.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.319 | Who will sound like this on Monday?? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Thu Apr 01 1993 13:27 | 10 |
|
Oh the inhumanity. What terrible reffing. Can't believe the fouls
they were calling against my (TarHeels) I mean Hoya's. Good game I gots
no fingernails left.
Chappy
Next year Joey B and Othella gets G'town back to at least the final
8 of the big dance. (you heard it here first)
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| 14.320 | Hoyas - ugh | AKOCOA::BREEN | NIT=Over-NCAA=Starting | Thu Apr 01 1993 21:22 | 24 |
| Chris,
I cannot be held responsible for Georgetown. I prayed they wouldn't
make it to N.Y. but alas. Minnesota played three good games and lived
up to their past history of NIT successes although I can't quite recall
when they won it all before.
I do recall seeing K. McHale play back in 70s and liked great hands
he had. That 45-41 was untypical for NIT but teams were really taking
this years tournament seriously, coaches and players.
Looked like Minnesota had large group of fans down to garden.
I have friends that take the train down every year.
Well on to ncaas. With big 4 all into final show, hope refs can just
call games straight, no more edge to seeded teams.
Or do people think it's just an accident that 3 1s and a 2 are in final
four.
by the way I loved the Ashe version of N.D. fight song but speaking of
Tripucka, Laimbeer etc and N.C. loss in final of 77: as I recall N.C.
UPSET Irish (semi-final?) but never were considered to have a shot at
Marquette. Big game that year was Marquette - North Carolina Charlotte.
oth-bill
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| 14.321 | Coach Clem Haskins of Minnesota played for the Suns | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Thu Apr 01 1993 22:57 | 0 |
| 14.322 | 1977 tournament facts | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Apr 02 1993 15:22 | 17 |
| re. 320
1977 final four:
UNC beat UNLV in one semi and Marquette won at the buzzer against UNC
charlotte(led by Cedric Maxwell). Tar Heels were a slight favorite in
the finals. This was from Al McGuire's best Marquette team but his only
NCAA champion. Bonus question: 1) Who was the final 4 MVP?
UNC beat Notre Dame in East Regionals. Kelly Tripucka was a senior at
Bloomfield(NJ) High School. Irish featured Duck Williams,Bruce Flowers
and Bill Paterno. UNC withstood and injury to Walter Davis to win a
great game at Cole field House (U of Maryland) by one point. They upset
the top seeded Kentucky Wildcats in the regional finals. UK would go on
to win the NCAA's the folowing year.
Answer: Butch Lee of Marquette and the Puerto Rico olympic team
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| 14.323 | More ... | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Fri Apr 02 1993 16:06 | 15 |
| The UNC 'W' over Notre Dame in '77 took place on St. Patricks Day no
less.
Few people realize how banged up Carolina was in 1977:
1. Tommy LeGarde missed the entire tournament. His substitute was
Rich Yonaker.
2. Walter Davis had a broken finger.
3. Phil Ford had a hyperextended elbow.
- ACC Chris
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| 14.324 | | CAMONE::WAY | RIP #7 | Fri Apr 02 1993 16:17 | 19 |
| | The UNC 'W' over Notre Dame in '77 took place on St. Patricks Day no
| less.
|
| Few people realize how banged up Carolina was in 1977:
|
| 1. Tommy LeGarde missed the entire tournament. His substitute was
| Rich Yonaker.
|
| 2. Walter Davis had a broken finger.
|
| 3. Phil Ford had a hyperextended elbow.
And Dean Smif musta been playin' pocket pool and forgettin' about
coaching for them to win such a big game that late in the tournament...
hth,
'Saw
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| 14.325 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | UNC-ExcellentLossInWaiting | Fri Apr 02 1993 16:19 | 3 |
| What an overachieving bunch that '77 team was too!
/Don
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| 14.326 | Danke Digger, I hope the door didn't catch ya in the | CTHQ::LEARY | UNC:AnomalyOnHorizon;CHAMPEENSHIP | Fri Apr 02 1993 16:40 | 10 |
| Believe it or not,
UNC WAS hurt for the tourney. 1977.... it was about that time I began
my continuing disappointment and eventual disgust wif Digger Phelps and
his "crew". Speakin_a_underachievers. There was no flippin' way ND
shoulda lost to either NC that year, Duke in '78, BYU wif Ainge
or even Michigan in '74 for that matter!
Grrrrr,
MikeL
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| 14.327 | More Notre Dame failures | KYOA::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Apr 02 1993 18:16 | 11 |
| UNC also beat Notre Dame at south Bend in a round of 32 game(?) . ND's
star was David Rivers. I think Kenny Smith made a key play near the end
for the Heels.
That ND loss to Michigan in 1974 had to hurt. ND was #1 at the times
led by
Dantley,John Shumate and Gary Brokaw. Michigan was beaten by a Marquete
in the finals and the Warriors went on to the title game where they
lost to NC St.
Your NCAA historian
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| 14.328 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Fri Apr 02 1993 18:47 | 7 |
|
I remember the year Danny ainge went coast to coast around ND
players(as if they were Oak trees) and scored the winning basket with
little or no time left to help BYU advance.
Chappy
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| 14.329 | | DUGROS::ROSS | Huked un fonix | Sat Apr 03 1993 12:56 | 19 |
| Anfernee Hardaway has decided to go pro. A bigger (!) story is that
former BYU center Shawn Bradley at 7'7" has decided not to return to school
after his two year sabbatical and has decided to go pro instead. Some
"experts" claim he might be the number one pick. He needs to gain about
50 pounds, I believe, or else risk being broken in half (two 3'9" guys?)
by the Shaq.
One key factor in Bradley's decision was that there's supposedly going
to be a salary cap for draft picks starting next year. That may influence
a number of other players to come out now. If Montross, Glenn Robinson,
Mashburn, Webber, and Rodney Rogers come out, I think this year's draft will
be even deeper than last year's. You might see guys like Hurley and
Cheaney dropping down to picks 10-12 which would be amazing.
If you were an NBA GM would you take Montross or Bradley? Remember, Bradley is
six inches taller, set an NCAA record for blocks as a freshman, is rated a
better passer, and can definitely run the floor better. I think Bradley
will have to play in the NBA tryout camps in order to guarantee a lottery
pick.
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| 14.330 | Congratulations to Cave | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Sun Apr 04 1993 03:13 | 40 |
| Championship game is set. UNC beat Kansas 78-68, game was close until
the last few minutes. Michigan-Kentucky was a great game. Went to OT.
Kentucky led by 4 in OT and then Mashburn fouled out. Michigan won by 3
to set up a UNC-Michigan final.
Below are the point totals after the semis - I will not be around to
post final totals on Tuesday or Wednesday but we already have a winner.
The only team left that anyone picked to win it all is Michigan and the
leader picked Michigan; so it is just a matter of total points. I made
a mistake last week and gave Mr. Burke 4 extra points, corrected in
these totals.
Name Pts Team picked to win it all - if left
====== === ===================================
Cave 84 Michigan
Erickson 81
McCullough 80 Michigan
Scopa 78
Murphy 74
Nazzaro 73 Michigan
Waugamann 72
Lazarus 72 Michigan
Blanchard 70
Burke 68
Needle 68
King 68 Michigan
Breen 67
Haas 65
Reilly 64
Ashe 64
Childs 64
Heiser 57
Francus 57 Michigan
Cotanch 57 Michigan
Derry 48
Long 47
Chapalonis 42
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| 14.331 | I like Michigan, but Dean might outdo Pitino's end-of-game | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Mon Apr 05 1993 14:18 | 27 |
|
If Carolina pulls it off against Michigan, it won't be an upset, but
they'll deserve every credit for this season's performance.
Personally, I think Michigan will be too much for them, because The
Ring is just too close for these talented UM kids to become
distracted as they were in the earlier rounds. Magnificent game
against Kentucky. In the end, it was the Wildcats who appeared
undisciplined. Stupid foul for Mashburn to pick up with a three-point
lead in OT, ill-advised 3-point attempt by Martinez later with the lead
and mucho time left on the 40-second clock, and had any one of a few
treys by Travis Ford gone down late in the game, Kentucky probably
would have won. But they didn't seem to have it all together...
> If you were an NBA GM would you take Montross or Bradley? Remember, Bradley is
> six inches taller, set an NCAA record for blocks as a freshman, is rated a
> better passer, and can definitely run the floor better. I think Bradley
> will have to play in the NBA tryout camps in order to guarantee a lottery
> pick.
From what I'm hearing, Bradley is a lock as a lottery pick (you mean
the top 3, right?). Montross' limitations are known (although I'll bet
his stock is rising with his play in the NCAAs), but I don't think you can
pass up the incredible possibilities of a 7'6" player with skills like
Bradley's for perhaps a middle-of-the-pack center in Montross...
glenn
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| 14.332 | BOX out.... | BUMP::MMARLAND | | Mon Apr 05 1993 14:51 | 14 |
| Should be good game, tonight. I don't know what is with Michigan but
they have been up for the taken since the UCLA game and some how keep
coming out alive. kentucky had them until Mashburn fouled out, and
couldn't understand how they could get the ball to their 3 point
shooting guard ( name I forgot) in the final 10 seconds. But the key
to beat Michigan is on the Offensive boards, with Howard, Webber and
Riley banging Offensive glass, NC must box these guys out, they get way
to many uncontested rebounds and put backs. With the size of Montross
and the reserve center they could get the job done tonight.
Still think Michigan will fins a way again.
Mike
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| 14.333 | Go Michigan - ok ok I mean NC lose! | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Mon Apr 05 1993 15:08 | 5 |
| Anyone know why the shot clock for the Men is 45 seconds, for the Women
in College hoops only 30 seconds?
The Crazy Met
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| 14.334 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | UNC-ExcellentLossInWaiting | Mon Apr 05 1993 15:19 | 8 |
| Hard to believe that such an "undisciplined" team (Michigan)
could play such stifling defense when the game mattered. Defense
is hard work and I thought that was something the "naturally talented"
Wolverines shunned? If this team can beat the Heels without a true
point guard or a consistent shooter hats off to Fisher and his young
team.
/Don
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| 14.335 | Williams is the key | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Apr 05 1993 15:23 | 10 |
| My pretournament pick of Michigan has continually looked shaky. After
lucking out against UCLA and sleepwalking through GW and Temple,they
looked beaten in OT by Kentucky until Mashburn fouled out.
They did a fine job stopping Ford on Saturday. Michigan's big strength
has been offensive rebounding. Lynch and Montross have to really play
big tonight. I think the key player for Carolina in the tournament has
been Donald williams. He has made the big shots in crunch time the last
3 games. If he can make some early threes he can spread things out.
|
| 14.336 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Mon Apr 05 1993 15:49 | 18 |
| /Don, I sure hope you don't have to change your p-name tomorrow.
I do not like either team but for tonight I will hold my nose and root
for Michigan.
Fisher's coaching in the Kentucky game was superb, he showed me that he
is a good coach and not just a chaperon of five spoiled but talented
showboats.
Pitino on the other hand was terrible. It seems that he spent too much
time believing all the press about Kentucky's invincibility and just
like last year came up short. Since Michigan took away Ford's shooting
why Pitino did't have him go right at the defense and pick up fouls ?
For #@X sakes, the guy is an 88% foul shooter. Mashburn's 3rd foul was
a bonehead play (he fouled the Michigan player bringing the ball
upcourt) similar to the Duke game in 1991. Pitino hang your head in
shame for this one !!
John "D Cowboys" R.
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| 14.337 | SMith has been coaching a good tourney...talent edge and all... | DECWET::METZGER | Dilbert works for DEC | Mon Apr 05 1993 16:09 | 41 |
|
I gotta go with Michigan tonight. I think the 5 players they have will be a
bit too much for UNC to handle. Rodl won't be able to pass over the head of
Rose to Montross and Weber is a lot smarter and quicker than Ostertag if he
gets the job to guard Montross.
One thing I will say is that Dean Smith has changed the system in the last
2 years to take advantage of the personnal he has. I don't think that the
Smith of 5 years ago would have adapted his game to use a player like Montross
to his full ability. This year he is gong with his strengths and it is paying
off in spades. Montross still hasn't convinced me that he'll be a top notch
NBA center but he's going to have a lot better career than the journeyman
Greg Kite style that many were predicting for him. He's got good hands and 2
scorng moves (even if he pushes off with the inside arm on his hook shot ala
Kareem). Ostertag is the definition of an NBA big stiff. Montross is already
offensively ahead of what the georgetown big 3 (ewing, Motumbo,Morning) were when
they were in school and is probably better than what Siekaly was when he left
to enter the pros. Defensively he's still an NBA stiff. No foot movement,
no rebounding. He'll really have to work on this in order to avoid getting
eaten alive by the Admiral, Hakeem and the other mobile centers.
Watching Michigan extend their defense to deny Kentucky the 3 point shot Sat
convinced me that Steve Fisher is a lot better coach than many have believed
also. I think we'll see Michigan deny the easy pass in to Montross and deny
Williams the open 3 and see what Phelps, Reese & co can do to make up for it.
Definately the top 2 talented teams are in the finals this year. Both wins
were talent wins saturday. Kentucky and Kansas just didn't have the horses
to stay with UNC and Michigan. I was kind of suprised that Pitino didn't have
any more set plays to get Travis Ford open for 3's. They seemed to be inable
to set him up for a screen. I still can't believe that Martinez has the
green light to shoot a 3...that was one stupid shot he took in OT.
Mashburn has to be a lottery pick....I'd take him over Cheany as the NCAA player
of the year...
I say Michigan by 5 tonight...
Metz
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| 14.338 | | FRETZ::HEISER | it's your destiny | Mon Apr 05 1993 16:30 | 5 |
| ...and the Wolverines won their previous encounter in the Rainbow
Classic last fall.
For the Tar Heels to have a prayer, I think Lynch has to have a monster
game.
|
| 14.339 | | DECWET::METZGER | Dilbert works for DEC | Mon Apr 05 1993 16:53 | 7 |
|
MIchigan only won by 1 pt with a put back w/ almost no time left in the game.
These two teams are evenly matched but the boys in Maize and blue seem to be
as focused as it gets and have something to prove to the media and everybody
that's been knocking them all season.
Metz
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| 14.340 | re: .339 - notes collision | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '93 | Mon Apr 05 1993 16:55 | 8 |
| re: .338
A one point win on a putback in December is a flimsy reason to pick
Michigan to win. I pick Michigan but for most of the reasons already
stated in earlier notes.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.341 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Mon Apr 05 1993 17:08 | 8 |
|
for me it's simple I hate UNC more than Michigan so I'll root for the Wolves.
Besides they ought to call the ACC the Hollywood Conference, with all the
falling down and begging for calls they do. Webba's great but does he have
to be as protected as Laettner?
mike
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| 14.342 | NC lucky they didn't haver to play UMASS | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - 2-time A10 Champ! | Mon Apr 05 1993 17:12 | 6 |
| I predict Carolina will win by 8-10 points. The refs will force
Michigan to play back on their heels for most of the game, due to early
foul trouble on Webber and Howard. If the refs don't do the same to
Montrose, Carolina cruises.
NAZZ
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| 14.343 | Let's go Wolverines..... | HOCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Mon Apr 05 1993 17:25 | 6 |
| Re: .341
I agree, for the same reasons.
Redmen Phil
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| 14.344 | Should be fun ... | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Mon Apr 05 1993 19:42 | 26 |
| Some miscellaneous points:
o Michigan's "W" over UNC at the Rainbow Classic was tainted (their
last two possessions were horror shows) BUT, ... they played most
of the game without one of their starters (cain't remember his name)
who seperated his shoulder early in the contest.
o UNC's bench is *way* overrated. They get minutes outa some guys
cause Dean has the guts to play 'em, but this team is at its best
when the starters get > 80% of the PT. Foul problems could very
well be the story for either team.
o Michigan is focused for sure, but main this Carolina team is *tough*.
Anybody see Lynch get in Montross' face when he blew a defensive
assignment against Kansas?! Yikes.
o Donald Williams has been absolutely huge the entire tournament.
(In fact, the entire season. He's UNC's ONLY outside threat, and
he's big-time clutch.)
o BobKnight can say what he wants about all those (like me) who follow
HS recruiting, but the simple fact is that Michigan and Carolina had
the best recruiting hauls over the last 2 years.
- ACC Chris
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| 14.345 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Guess who just got back today... | Mon Apr 05 1993 20:14 | 10 |
| >o Michigan's "W" over UNC at the Rainbow Classic was tainted (their
> last two possessions were horror shows) BUT, ... they played most
> of the game without one of their starters (cain't remember his name)
> who seperated his shoulder early in the contest.
huh? Michigan played most of the game without a starter and the win
was tainted because you didn't like the way the ref called the game?
What happened? Did someone foul KJ driving to the hoop?
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| 14.346 | Suspicious minds want to know | AKOCOA::BREEN | NIT=Over-NCAA=Starting | Mon Apr 05 1993 20:18 | 12 |
| Regarding edge to the big boys in this years NCAA
There was a column in Wall St. Journal referred to be Weei stating that
CBS held out advertisements for final four and made a bundle. This
I heard after my comments in .320 But I can't find the article.
Also, any comments on two big no-calls in last 10 seconds of regulation
Sat. night. The Rose - Phelps contact was similar to a charge called
on Rose trying to go up the sideline earlier. Makeup was no call on
Rose's final shot - a more clear foul in this book.
OTH-bill
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| 14.347 | | FRETZ::HEISER | it's your destiny | Mon Apr 05 1993 21:23 | 6 |
| Re: BobKnight
If PoT was here, he would be making a legitimate case for the best team
in the land not even playing tonight:
Indiana with a healthy Henderson. They swept the Wolverines this year.
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| 14.348 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Guess who just got back today... | Mon Apr 05 1993 21:51 | 3 |
| Yeah, and they lost to Kentucky, who lost to Michigan, who beat Kansas,
Kentucky and UNC this year... can't do it based on that...
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| 14.349 | | DECWET::METZGER | Dilbert works for DEC | Mon Apr 05 1993 22:31 | 16 |
|
Nah,
PoT would be exclaiming what a wonder job Bob did coaching the undertalented
Hoosiers to the Big 10 Title this year despite having to face the
NukeWideBodyStuds of Michigan. He'd conveniently ignore the fact that Chaney
was named player of the year...
He'd say that Po' Po' Indiana didn't stand a chance against the talent laden
teams that made it to the final 4 and that Bob again worked miracles with a
mostly small, white lineup...
and he'd be wrong just like Chris is mostly wrong when he defends Smith.
Metz
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| 14.350 | :-) | ELMAGO::BENBACA | ThereIsNoGravity!TheEarthSucks! | Tue Apr 06 1993 03:52 | 3 |
| Well Gawd DammIt who won!?!?!?
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| 14.351 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Ess-Oh-See-Kay-Ess | Tue Apr 06 1993 04:00 | 7 |
| I was wondering the same thang.
Wondering if the famed "Snuffy Chicken Bone Gag Job" was done tonight
er if the Snuffer kept the bone out of his throat.
JaKe
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| 14.352 | Swollowed the Olive | ELMAGO::BENBACA | ThereIsNoGravity!TheEarthSucks! | Tue Apr 06 1993 04:17 | 1 |
| Well, if not a chicken bone then an olive...
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| 14.353 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Guess who just got back today... | Tue Apr 06 1993 04:40 | 4 |
| Snuffy won by 7... Webber tried to call a timeout with 11 seconds left
and down three. Problem was they were out of timeouts. NC hits 2 free
throws and cruises after that...
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| 14.354 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | ThereIsNoGravity!TheEarthSucks! | Tue Apr 06 1993 05:05 | 1 |
| What was the score.... THE SCORE!
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| 14.355 | | TKOV58::WASHIO | Listen Billy, Yellow Men Can't Jump | Tue Apr 06 1993 06:00 | 4 |
| > What was the score.... THE SCORE!
Michigan 71
North Carolina 77
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| 14.356 | | SALEM::TIMMONS | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Apr 06 1993 10:53 | 5 |
| Hmmm, as Michigan took an extra timeout, is this Weber's fault, or the
coach? Wonder what the opinions of Smith would have been if it had
happened to N.C.? Poor coaching? Lack of preparation? :*)
Lee
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| 14.357 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Tue Apr 06 1993 12:09 | 17 |
|
Walt they were down 2...
Lee when Michigan took a TO with 46 seconds left Fisher told the guys that
that was it they had no timeouts left. Not his fault. Blame it on Divine
Intervention. It seems to be the only way Snuffy can win one of these
things.
Was Billy "Acc" "Deanlovin'" Packer actually questioning the great Dean's
substitution patterns at the end of the game? Was The collar tighting?
Was Dean ready to cough up another one? I guess we'll never know...
Congrats to Chris and Meat etc...Lynch was a monster as was Williams, Montross
was/is a stiff, Phelphs is a gutty players and Reese is lucky to be playing
with the other 4....
mike
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| 14.358 | | CAMONE::WAY | Don't start me to talkin' | Tue Apr 06 1993 12:28 | 21 |
| Lee,
If we wanted to be real b*st*rds, we could rude on Chris about the mistaken
timeout call.
But I'll say Congrats Chris, enjoy your champeenship......
And just because I cant' resist:
If they put 400 monkeys in a room with 400 typewriters,
eventually one of them would type up "War and Peace".
So......
8^)
'Saw
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| 14.359 | Give Dean and Carolina credit-- fundamentals won it... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Apr 06 1993 13:31 | 20 |
|
Webber shouldn't be singled out for the mental mistake; it was a team
effort down the stretch. After Billy Packer issued the KOD by
woodying all over that stupid 5:00 stat (Michigan only lost three
games all season; how hard is it to find a point in the game from
which they didn't blow a lead?) right after Jalen nailed the big 3 to
put Michigan up 4, it was self-immolation time, baby! Give Dean's
boys all the credit for being the better coached, more fundamental
team. All of the common criticisms of Michigan came home to roost
from that point on. Failure to gain control the ball in the wild
scrambles off the boards. Allowing Montross to go free underneath for
the wide-open jam after finally figuring out who Donald Williams was
and screwing up the assignment on him in the halfcourt. The big Rose
turnover trying to force it inside with the lane completely closed up
(which should have been the end if not for the heart-stopping-- right
Chris?-- UNC out-of-bounds turnover). Only after all that did Webber
add his contribution...
glenn
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| 14.360 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Tue Apr 06 1993 13:38 | 11 |
| Let's face it, the TO call shouldn't have come up because Webber
took 4 steps in the back court. UNC gets the ball back with ~15
seconds left, hits their free throws (which they did anyway) and
wins the game.
This game was no fluke. UNC played extremely good team defense
the last five minutes, hit their shots, and beat a very talented
Michigan team. Both coaches made appropriate adjustments during
the game, both teams played well. UNC won and deserved to. There
will be some whiners in here who are not mature enough to accept
that fact.
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| 14.361 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Apr 06 1993 13:40 | 11 |
|
> Let's face it, the TO call shouldn't have come up because Webber
> took 4 steps in the back court. UNC gets the ball back with ~15
> seconds left, hits their free throws (which they did anyway) and
> wins the game.
Courtside replay showed that the ref was looking right at Webber, too,
Billy Packer's apologies notwithstanding...
glenn
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| 14.362 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | The Peter Principle in action | Tue Apr 06 1993 13:46 | 8 |
|
Michigan's big problem was and is that they don't have a true
point guard. Jalen Rose is talented but he does a poor job of
guarding and distributing the ball. Webber shouldn't have even
been handling the ball at the end but given the structure of the
team he never even looks for Rose nor Rose for him. It's unfort-
unate that Webber will probably wear the goat's horn because
it's undeserved.
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| 14.363 | Blame it on the Coach | CUPMK::SCOPA | | Tue Apr 06 1993 13:57 | 18 |
| College bball at the NCAA final Four usually comes down to a game of
chess and Michigan had the wrong Fisher at the helm.
Many people fell Fisher lost the game in the first half. I didn't watch
the first 20 minutes of the game but is it true that Fisher made
wholesale changes when he went up by 10? Big mistake.
He admitted after the game that his kids are underachievers. I don't
blame them for that...the blame lies with the coach.
I wonder what would have happened if the ref had called Webber for
walking. With a chance for a steal Michigan would have been in better
shape for sure.
First time in 30 games that the Wolverines have lost after being ahead
with 5 mins to go in the game.
Maj
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| 14.364 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Tue Apr 06 1993 14:04 | 7 |
| re: .360
Who are you referring to as a "whiner" and as "immature" ? While I am
part of the Dean-bashing crowd I still believe that Webber's play was
the most important moment in the game. Do you agree ?
John "D Cowboys" R.
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| 14.365 | I watched this game and lived to tell about it. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Tue Apr 06 1993 14:07 | 23 |
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- ACC Chris
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| 14.366 | NC champs again.. | BUMP::MMARLAND | | Tue Apr 06 1993 14:19 | 13 |
| Great win by NC, congrats. The key to the win was rebounding and
keeping the Michigan forwards from running wid on the boards. Can't
fault Webber completely,bone head move , but the big guy never should
have been with the ball, it's Rose's play to bring up the ball. I do
agree that Fisher made a few mistakes by playing deep into his bench in
the 1st half. It's better to win and and not play than play and not
win. I think he was giving his Sr's someplaying time when they went up
10-11 points, big mistake NC scrapped back and led at the half.
Well, who'll go pro now for U Michigan. Will they try to get back or
opt for the big $$$$.
Mike
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| 14.367 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Guess who just got back today... | Tue Apr 06 1993 14:19 | 26 |
| I don't think Fisher did a bad job. I thought he tried to get his
guys rest when they were up because the game wasn't going to be decided
in the first half.
UNC got more breaks than Michigan. Seemed like in the first half,
Michigan got called for more ticky tack fouls. Not whining, just the
way my roommates and I saw it. Example was when Montross knocked Riley
over in the lane and then Jackson got called when blocking the shot to
get his 3rd foul. Also it seemed like a lot of UNC shots went around
the rim and in. Michigan's went around and out. Breaks of the game,
have to execute.
Webber heard someone yell "time out". I guess the bench was yelling "No
timeouts". Yeah, he screwed up, he admitted. As Keith Jackson would
say "He's only a sophomore...". The ref probably knew Michigan didn't
have a time out and ignored him the first time he tried to call it, and
that caused the walk. Rose was covered, but he didn't make a real
effort for the ball. Webber made a good play bringing it upcourt for a
guy 6'11". And don't forget he 1) got the rebound instead of having
it go back to UNC, and 2) he brought them back to 1 with a tip-in. I
don't think he was a goat. These things happen.
Just hope this means that Webber comes back next year with something to
prove. Congrats to the Snuffer.... Vitale's already made UNC #1 for
next year, so they won't be overachieving if they repeat...
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| 14.368 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Sounds like.. when doves cry | Tue Apr 06 1993 14:34 | 12 |
| How come I don't see where Michigan went "deep" into the bench?
Michigan was in the game, and had who, Howard, King and Jackson all
with 2 fouls? Riley is the 6th man. Pelinka is their 3 point shooter
and hit some key 3's early. Are you guys talking about Voskuil and
Talley? They've played all season, Talley's the only one who may have
not seen a lot of playing time in the tournament. He's the backup
point guard though. With Carolina throwing 10 people at them, you need
to rest Rose at some point. I don't see where the big mistake was.
I also thought it was smart to bring in the subs to commit the fouls
with less than 2 minutes to go to get to where the next foul put you in
the penalty. Otherwise, UNC sits on the ball and the game's over.
|
| 14.369 | | DUGROS::ROSS | BillBuckner,FredMerkle,ChrisWebber | Tue Apr 06 1993 14:37 | 5 |
| The ref who ignored the traveling call on Webber at the end should be banned
from any future tournaments. What did he think it was, the NBA? It's
blatant use of a different set of rules at the end of a game that brings about
the lack of respect for the referees. It was a gutless no-call.
|
| 14.370 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Apr 06 1993 15:03 | 8 |
|
I didn't see anything unusual with Fisher's substitutions in the first
half, with the possible exception of Webber sitting the 3-4 minutes
leading into the half. That might have allowed UNC to take the 6 point
lead, instead of maybe an even game...
glenn
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| 14.371 | | FDCV06::GARBARINO | NY Knickerboppers | Tue Apr 06 1993 15:19 | 32 |
| > Michigan's big problem was and is that they don't have a true
> point guard. Jalen Rose is talented but he does a poor job of
> guarding and distributing the ball. Webber shouldn't have even
> been handling the ball at the end but given the structure of the
> team he never even looks for Rose nor Rose for him. It's unfort-
> unate that Webber will probably wear the goat's horn because
> it's undeserved.
I'm glad to see a few of you have brought this up. No true, responsible
point guard stands there and makes no effort to get the ball from the
big guy, with the game on the line. Rose owns the goat horns. He's
SUPPOSED TO be handling the ball/making the decisions, not Webber. I
hope the media is smart enough to pick this up and let Webber off the
hook.
As for turning pro, Webber should go. Rose stinks. No way he should
go now. He may not be good enough when he's done with college ball
2 years from now.
re: substitutions
Both coaches made questionable substitutions throughout. I can see
players being exhausted much quicker in this type of game because of
the energy spent (physically, emotionally, mentally), requiring
more substitutions, but to go as deep as these two went, and for
as long, is beyond me. I disagree with the statement that "the
game wasn't going to be won in the 1st half anyway"...every minute
of a game contributes to the result at the end, and I think Fisher's
bench-clearing when they were up ten was stupid...especially given
the length of time guys like Talley and Voskil were on the floor.
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| 14.372 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | FreddyBrown,BillBuckner,ChrisWebber | Tue Apr 06 1993 15:38 | 9 |
| Congrats Chris. The 'Rev finally did something with his truckload
of High School All Americans. 8^) And Webber deserves the goat
horns, he cost his team a chance to tie the game. If I made a similar
mistake in my job I would be fishing through the recycle bins for
food money, while Chris if he so decides will be rewarded with a
multi-million dollar contract. So you'll pardon me if I don't shed
AlanAlda tears for him.
/Don
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| 14.373 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Sounds like.. when doves cry | Tue Apr 06 1993 15:39 | 8 |
| I don't see anyone leaving this year except for maybe Webber off of
Michigan.
As for the use of Talley and Voskuil, like I said, they went 9 deep
all year, it wasn't a case of someone who averaged 1 minute a game
in cleanup time getting into the game. Michigan had an uptempo game
and had guys in foul trouble. I saw nothing out of the ordinary about
it.
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| 14.374 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Apr 06 1993 16:16 | 5 |
| 14.375 | | SALEM::TIMMONS | A waist is a terrible thing to mind | Tue Apr 06 1993 16:49 | 25 |
| Of all the reasons I've seen in here for the outcome of the game, I'd
have so say that all are somewhat valid. That's BB. Lot's and lot's
of action, continual movement and decision-making by the players and
refs. Coaches seeing something they want to change, but no chance
while the action is taking place, to me it and hockey are much, much
more reactive games than say football and baseball. So talent isn't
always the true measuring stick, althought it is always a part of that
stick. How about maturity, experience, self-control, confidence. I'd
say Michigan was somewhat lower on these scales than N.C., but that may
or may not be due to their age.
If Michigan stays together, which many seem to doubt, then I'd have
them as the favorites for the next two years. Playing together over
such a span can lead to the sum of the team play being greater than the
individual players. They learn to instinctively know what their
teammates will do in certain situations. Being so young, they may have
a good inkling of that, but then experience and maturity enter the
picture.
So, congrats to both coaches for getting their teams there, congrats to
both teams for a fine game. I honestly expected a blowout by one team
or another, as I told Daryll yesterday. It's good for college
basketball to have the championship game go the limit.
Lee
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| 14.376 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Sounds like.. when doves cry | Tue Apr 06 1993 16:54 | 3 |
| Looks like FSU or GA Tech will beat Michigan in the finals nexted
year... at least that the Buffalllo Billls (tm) theory...
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| 14.377 | My opinion - NBA = Madonna, NCAA = Cindy Crawford | DUGROS::ROSS | BillBuckner,FredMerkle,ChrisWebber | Tue Apr 06 1993 17:08 | 7 |
| 1992-93 proved to be a very enjoyable college basketball season. Each
year, I find college hoops more fun to watch than the pros. The NBA game
lacks the broad range of possibilities that the college game offers... its
a star league, a ref league, and a media league. College hoop is a team
game, a coaches game, and a fan's game.
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| 14.378 | NBA freeze on draftee salaries in 94? | AKOCOA::BREEN | In the land of the blind the one-eyed reign | Tue Apr 06 1993 17:40 | 8 |
| I heard that there is speculation that the NBA may freeze salaries for
draftees after this years draft, a thought that if believed may lead to
quite a quality draft this year.
The only possible problem is how it relates to what did seem to be an
interesting dog fight for the final 2 or 3 playoff slots in the East.
But that belongs to another note
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| 14.379 | Random thoughts on lasted night's game | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - 2-time A10 Champ! | Tue Apr 06 1993 19:26 | 21 |
| Did Michigan shoot any free throws in the second half?
Webber pulled a Freddie Brown, and he has to learn to live with it.
Sure, Rose should've come to the ball, but Webber lost his poise.
Other key to the game IMO is that Michigan couldn't stop the incredible
shooting of Donald Williams Has any player come on more in the tourney
history than this guy? What a sensational performance!
Bonehead turnover by Rose with a minute and a half left, but nobody
will remember that - just Webber's mistake.
I actually feel kinda bad for Dean that his second championship is just
as tainted by controversy as his first.
Eric Montross = Greg Kite of the '90s.
Michigan would have been much better off if the traveling call was
made on Webber with 20 seconds left.
NAZZ
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| 14.380 | | CTHQ::LEARY | UNC:AnomalyOnHorizon;CHAMPEENSHIP | Tue Apr 06 1993 19:41 | 14 |
| C'mon Nazz,
You've been around BBall for such a long time man, you can't be
serious that this was a "tainted" win. I don't seem how. Michigan
didn't "give" this to UNC, the Heels took it. Would you call the
Celtics' champeenships of '62 and '69 "tainted" because Selvy "blew"
an open 10 footer in '62 and Sam sank a heave in '69? I doubt it.
But I'll agree with you on Williams, he was on target! And Jalen Rose
had a pretty poor final coupla minutes also. The guy I thought coulda
ben labeled a 'goat for UNC was Reese. His "pirouette" out opf bounds
was incredulous.
MikeL
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| 14.381 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Tue Apr 06 1993 20:08 | 9 |
|
I gotta agree with Nazz to win a Championship when the other team
misses a shot is one thing, but to win cuz an opposing player calls an
extra timeout or passes the ball to a player on the other team. Thats a
little tainted.
Chappy
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| 14.382 | Taint tainted | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Apr 06 1993 20:29 | 29 |
| Smith's comments afterward confirm a bad case of taintitis (tm). Will
his epitaph read "Dean Smith the all time leader in wins who led his
North Carolina teams to two tainted NCAA titles"?
I doubt it. There is enormous pressure at end of a championship game.
Mistakes happen. What if Howard Triche of Syrexcuse makes his free
throws-does that taint Indiana .
Does anybody mention how Rumeal Robinson was hardly touched in 1989
against Seton Hall. Close games are decided by plays like these.
What if Donald Williams had choked on the free throws and Michigan had
miraculously taken the game to overtime? If UNC won under that
scenario would it be any more real?
Give UNC credit for forcing Michigan to call early timeouts which led
to the precarious situation in the end. Ultimately the Fab 5's luck ran
out. If Mashburn doesn't foul out in OT its Kentucky in the finals.
If Tarver doesn't blow a layup UCLA would have eliminated them in
round 2.
NCAA championships are decided by crunch time heroics. All of
Carolina's games after the URI blowout were decided in the final two
minutes. The Tar Heels had the player of the tournament donald Williams
on their side. In all 4 games he made crucial shots just like Michael
Jordan had done 11 years hence.
The smith bashers will not be happy until UNC smashes someone by 30
points in the finals and even then I'm sure there will something to
grouse about. It goes with the territory.
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| 14.383 | | DECWET::METZGER | Dilbert works for DEC | Tue Apr 06 1993 21:06 | 18 |
|
Tainted, schmainted...the team that scores the most points wins the game. There
is nothing "tainted" about winning the championship unless the other team
doesn't show up.
Congrats to UNC. I didn't get to see the game but from all accounts it was
a humdinger. I think Smith showed some very good coaching during the course of
the season and the tourney by giving Williams the A.O.K. to shoot whenever he
wanted to and by using Montross effectively against smaller opposition.
Here's hoping the Fab 5 decide to stay in school for another year and come back
to wipe the taste of defeat from their mouths....I think Rose said it best
before the West regional finals "We ain't won nothing yet,no big 10 title,
no national championship, nothing."
Metz
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| 14.384 | congrats to yunz UNC backers | MKFSA::LONG | I got friends in low places | Tue Apr 06 1993 21:12 | 8 |
| >Tainted, schmainted...the team that scores the most points wins the game. There
>is nothing "tainted" about winning the championship unless the other team
>doesn't show up.
I'm with you, Metz. Couldn't have said it better.
billl
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| 14.385 | Clarification | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Apr 06 1993 21:22 | 7 |
| Metz:
I hope you didn't think I was implying anything tainted about the game.
I agree that a win is win and I congratulate you for putting my exact
thoughts into note .383.
Well done!
|
| 14.386 | | CSC32::J_HENSON | Faster than a speeding ticket | Tue Apr 06 1993 21:31 | 14 |
| If last's night win was tainted, it's only because Michigan should never
have been there. Everyone seems to have forgotten their last second,
after the shot clock expired, winning shot against UCLA. Now that's
a tainted win.
I'm not a UNC fan nor a Michigan fan, but UNC played better than Michigan
and deserved the win. And I wouldn't consider Webber the goat, either.
If it weren't for his excellent play in the first 59 minutes and
49 seconds, a blown time-out call wouldn't have made the least bit
of difference.
JMHO,
Jerry
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| 14.387 | Leaves a feeling of incompleteness, not cheatedness... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Apr 06 1993 21:45 | 24 |
|
> If last's night win was tainted, it's only because Michigan should never
> have been there. Everyone seems to have forgotten their last second,
> after the shot clock expired, winning shot against UCLA. Now that's
> a tainted win.
Negative. The put-back came after the initial shot hit the rim,
resetting the clock, and after review of the tapes everyone
acknowledges that the refs made the right call.
There is nothing "tainted" about UNC's win, but from (mostly) an
impartial fan's perspective, plays like Freddie Brown's and Webber's
do kinda drain the tension and suspense from the game, and leave you
wondering might have been. That's on both sides of the ball.
There's nothing like the ball being the air with no time on the clock
with both sides waiting for it to come down. Shooting technicals on
the other end just doesn't quite cut it... ;-)
Plus, despite what /Don says, you do feel bad for the guy who pulled
the rock in a way you wouldn't if he'd simply missed a shot or
something...
glenn
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| 14.388 | day 2 screw the 'alan alda' congrats | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Wed Apr 07 1993 11:55 | 11 |
| to answer Nazz's question no Michigan did not go to the line in the second
half, but hey that's how it is in all UNC games. I got no problems with the
amount of times UNC goes to the line in a game because their game is an inside
pound it at em game. They're going to get fouled. But to think that physical
players like Montross, Lynch and company don't commit fouls at the other end
is rediculous in my opinion....
for you folks who say Michigan should have been out early, UNC also should
have been out against Cinncinati...
mike
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| 14.389 | | CAMONE::WAY | Don't start me to talkin' | Wed Apr 07 1993 12:48 | 9 |
| Well, from what I've been seeing in the media, and hearing on some of
the sports call in programs, this is being billed as another "tainted"
champeenship.
Actually, I agree with Mike. Day 2, and there are far more important
things going on in the sports world than college hoops....
'Saw
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| 14.390 | free room and board | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Wed Apr 07 1993 13:12 | 7 |
|
DOes anyone out there have the information about ordering Final Four
Tickets for next year? It's not that I'm cheap but principally I'm
opposed to calling a 900 number to get information that should be
provided free.
mike
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| 14.391 | Final 4 Application | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Wed Apr 07 1993 13:49 | 8 |
|
I think there may be an address you can write to to get the
application. The call costs $1.00 the first minute and $0.50
for everyother minute. "All proceeds go the NCAA"
I called the other day and my call lasted about 2 minutes.
Steve (who hopes to get tickets)
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| 14.392 | still cost a stamp dam NCAA | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Wed Apr 07 1993 14:46 | 8 |
|
Like the NCAA needs the money....Steve can you photocopy the application
or must you submit an original? If you can photocopy could you please
help me out?
thanks
mike
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| 14.393 | | FDCV07::KING | OH NO!!!! I'm a bubba!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Wed Apr 07 1993 16:00 | 4 |
| What college coach has made the most trips (26) to the NCAA's
and has never won the basketball Championship?
REK
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| 14.394 | Billy Packer | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Wed Apr 07 1993 16:06 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.395 | Cougers | ELMAGO::BENBACA | ThereIsNoGravity!TheEarthSucks! | Thu Apr 08 1993 04:13 | 1 |
| Guy Lewis, Houston
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| 14.396 | | FDCV06::KING | OH NO!!!! I'm a bubba!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Thu Apr 08 1993 12:26 | 3 |
| BINGO!!!!!!!!!!! Guy Lewis it is...
REK
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| 14.397 | NC didn't win; Michigan lost = tainted | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - 2-time A10 Champ! | Thu Apr 08 1993 13:40 | 37 |
| The only Final Four I've had the privilege to attend was the one that
featured the aforementioned Mr. Lewis in 1983, when Phi Slamma Jamma
lost to the miracle slam by Lorenzo Charles and sent Jimmy V off
trying to find somebody to hug.
If you remember that game, NC St. was up on Houston early, and it was
tight at the half, with neither team shooting well. But midway through
the second half, Houston went on a run similar to the one they nailed
Louisville with in the semifinals (in the most explosive college game
I've ever seen!). The Cougars go up by 8 with seven minutes left,
and Lewis, in his coaching genius, calls for the stall. He destroys
his team's momentum, and lets State back into the game. Valvano has
his guys foul on every possession, and Houston isn't what you'd call
a great foul shooting team. When Michael Young (Celtics #1 draft pick
flop) misses the final one-and-one, it sets up Derek Whittenberg's
miss and Charles' jam to win it.
That was not a tainted win. Keith Smart nailing the jumper was not a
tainted win, even though Syracuse failed to call timeout immediately.
Duke's win over UNLV was not tainted, because although the Rebels did
gag a bit, Duke made the plays to win the game. In this case, the
Heels did not make the play to win the game. The game ended by
depriving us a chance to have either team win; Michigan lost it.
BTW, here were the starting fives for that championship game 10 years
ago:
Houston North Carolina State
C Akeem Olajuwon Cozell McQueen
F Larry Micheaux Thurl Bailey
F Clyde Drexler Lorenzo Charles
G Michael Young Derek Whittenburg
G Alvin Franklin Sidney Lowe (now coach of the Timberwolves)
Two pretty good college teams!
NAZZ
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| 14.398 | The season's officially over | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Thu Apr 08 1993 13:47 | 4 |
| No college basketball stories in my sports section today. No hockey
playoff excitement in the NY area.
It's time to go into withdrawl.
|
| 14.399 | | CAMONE::WAY | Don't start me to talkin' | Thu Apr 08 1993 13:57 | 11 |
| > No college basketball stories in my sports section today. No hockey
> playoff excitement in the NY area.
>
> It's time to go into withdrawl.
Dave, give it a day or two, then the Ranger bashing will start in the
Noo Yawk media. It's already started on FAN.....
'Saw
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| 14.400 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Thu Apr 08 1993 17:17 | 10 |
| Like Metz I missed the UNC-Michigan game. Bummer it ended with the time-out
call by Webber. Webber may be back at Michigan next year. When is the deadline
for filing for the NBA as an underclassman??
re: .399
Rangers bashing is all the rage in NY. Todays paper will have a filed day
with last nights 5-2 loss to the DEVILS.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.401 | no mon, no fun | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Thu Apr 08 1993 19:53 | 11 |
|
Yabbut I did call the NCAA winnah! AND the NIT winnah!
but I didn't call da bookie
:^(
I remain,
still a po' po' working shortguy,
Kev
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| 14.402 | Final 4 App | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Fri Apr 16 1993 18:55 | 8 |
|
Has anyone out there received a 1994 Final Four Application yet?
I called and gave them my name on the 6th, and still have received
anything yet.
Can you fax back the application?
steve
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| 14.403 | Team USA chosen | HBAHBA::HAAS | not a real green dress, that's cruel | Fri May 07 1993 18:38 | 37 |
| Article: 2732
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball.college
Subject: TEAM USA unveiled
Date: Wed, 5 May 93 14:56:43 PDT
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (UPI) -- A Who's Who of college basketball
All-Americans will participate this summer in Europe for TEAM USA, a new
competition concept announced Wednesday by USA Basketball President C.M.
Newton.
Newton announced the competition which will feature college
basketball's elite players and unveiled the coaching staff and 12-man
TEAM USA squad which will compete this summer against European national
squads.
The 12 players were selected by USA Basketball's 10-member Select
Team Committee, chaired by Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski.
Players accepting invitations to participate on TEAM USA were:
Georgia Tech guard Travis Best, Wisconsin forward Michael Finley,
Georgia Tech forward James Forrest, Duke swingman Grant Hill, California
guard Jason Kidd, Connecticut forward Donyell Marshall, Vanderbilt guard
Billy McCaffrey, Temple guard Aaron McKie, North Carolina center Eric
Montross, Oklahoma State center Bryant Reeves, Purdue forward Glenn
Robinson and Michigan forward Chris Webber.
``We're very excited about TEAM USA and feel it is the premier
international event for out elite college players,'' said Newton. ``The
12 players selected for the 1993 TEAM USA ares some of the most talented
collegians and many have been involved in USA Basketball teams in the
past. This will be an incredible learning experience on the court and
off for these young men.''
Seton Hall Coach P.J. Carlesimo was selected as the TEAM USA's head
coach. Ohio State Coach Randy Ayers and Utah Coach Rick Majerus will
serve as assistants.
TEAM USA will train May 23-31 at Seton Hall, then play a series of
games between June 1-12 in Europe against European national teams
training for the 1993 European Championships.
Hill, Montross and Webber were members of last year's USA Basketball
Developmental team that scrimmaged against the U.S. Dream Team.
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| 14.404 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Fri May 07 1993 21:44 | 3 |
| Webber is already out. He's going pro.
Tim
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| 14.405 | How to build a Basketball team overnight - the UC way... | ROCK::MURPHY | Illini in '94 | Thu Jun 10 1993 19:19 | 64 |
| Which fine moves of Messr Huggins do we not know about?
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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (Rob Clough)
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Subject: Bob Gibbons Disses Cincinnati
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Recruiting expert Bob Gibbons does not usually criticize most college
programs, but he really lays into Bob Huggins and Cincinnati in his latest
newsletter. I find it interesting enough to see what other readers, and
most especially Cincinnati fans, think of his comments. Please note that I
do not necessarily agree with his comments, so hold the flames down.
[beginning of article]
"You do not have to be much of a skeptic to doubt the credibility of the
move by Cincinnati recruit Dontonio Wingfield from Albany, GA, to Cincinnati,
OH. This occurred after it became known that Wingfield would not pass enough
subjects to graduate from high school in Georgia. However, he could
possibly get a diploma in Cincinnati, since fewer credits are required. So,
after Wingfield finished his basketball season at Albany, GA, Westover HS, he
withdrew from school. Wingfield played in the McDonald's All-American Game
in Memphis, and then enrolled at Taft HSA in Cincinnati around mid-April.
One might ask, how does a high school student, with no known income and little
if any financial support from his family, accomplish this move.
The U. of Cincinnati basketball office naturally has avowed "no knowledge"
of this entire affair. According to published reports, Wingfield is now
living in Cincinnati with an "uncle" of his former legal guardian in Albany...
Reportedly, Wingfield recently flew back to Albany to attend his senior prom...
Draw your own conclusions about this unbelievable situation. We certainly
have ours.
It is particularly troubling that an individual who has attended high
school for four years in one city and failed to meet the requirements for a
high school diploma there, can simply move to another state and in a period of
six weeks or less can graduate from high school!!! That could set a very
dangerous precedent....However, the older we get, the more certain we are that
people never really get away with their "slick manuevering" and unscrupulous
actions. "What goes around, comes around."
I remember some nine years ago when NC State recruited a young giant with
great abilities by the name of Chris Washburn. They avowed that Washburn
would "make their program". At the time I predicted "he would break their
program."....And now Cincinnati Coach Bob Huggins says "Dontonio Wingfield
will make his program at Cincinnati". In my opinion, Huggins and Wingfield
deserve each other. And, combined they could bring Bearcat basketball to the
level of the old UNLV teams, warts and all.
At this writing there was considerable controversy concerning the possible
forced release of All-American 6-6 G/F Damon Flint by Ohio State.
Reportedly, if Flint is released, he would sign with Cincinnati, the
school that, reportedly, notified the NCAA of OSU's alleged recruiting
violation. [this just happened] Cincinnati has already signed six players,
and still does not have a point guard to replace Nick Van Exel. Damon Flint
is certainly not a point guard. However, Flint could receive the scholarship
that Huggins gave to 6-10 C Arthur Long, Dodge City, KS CC, who was
recently arrested on drug charges.
[end of article]
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| 14.406 | Recruits | ROCK::MURPHY | Illini in '94 | Thu Jun 10 1993 19:23 | 50 |
| + The top 10 1993 recruiting classes, from 5/5 USA Today, (player, town,
+ height, & scoring). As lifted shamelessly from the Louisville
+ Courier-Journal indicates (*) Prep school, (**) JUCO transfer.
+
+
+ 1. North Carolina: Jerry Stackhouse, Mouth of Wilson, VA, 6-6, 25.6;
+ Rasheed Wallace, Philadelphia, 6-11, 14.6; Jeff McInnis, Mount
+ of Wilson, 6-1, 17.0
+
+ 2. Duke: Joey Beard, Reston, VA, 6-10, 23.0: Jeff Capel, Hope Mills, NC,
+ 6-0, 24.2; Carmen Wallace, Wilmington DE, 6-6, 26.0; Greg
+ Newton, Niagara Falls, Ontario, 6-10, 18.0
+
+ 3. Kansas: Jacque Vaughn, Pasadena, CA,6-0., 22.0; Scot Pollard, San
+ Diego 7-0, 22.0; Nick Proud, Sandy UT, 6-10, 26.0; B.J. Williams,
+ Wichita, 6-8, 16
+
+ 4. Louisiana State: Randy Livingston, 'Narlins, LA, 6-3, 30.3; Ronnie
+ Henderson, Jackson MS, 6-5, 31.9; Glover Jackson, Pensacola, FL
+ 6-8, 10.5
+
+ 5. Indiana: Sherron Wilkerson, Jeffersonville, IN, 6-4, 16.8; Rob Eggers,
+ Cuyahoga Falls, OH, 6-10, 21.0; Richard Mandeville, La Canada, CA
+ 7-0, 15.0; Monte Marcaccini, Sherman Oaks, CA, 6-5, 19.7;
+ Robert Foster, Los Angeles, 6-4, 13.4; (*) Steve Hart, Terre Haute,
+ IN, 6-4, 33.3
+
+ 6. UNLV: Jermaine Smith, Mouth of Wilson, VA, 6-2, 8.3; (**) Clayton
+ Johnson, Stockton, Ca., 6-5, 20.0; (**) Brian Hocevir, Cleveland
+ 6-8, 18.0; (**) Patrick Savoy, Thibodaux, La., 6-8, 17.0; Seth
+ Myers, Steelton, Pa., 6-6, 22.8
+
+ 7. Cincinnati: Dontonio Wingfield, Albany, Ga., 6-8, 21.0; Darnell Burton
+ Lexington KY, 6-3, 25.3; Jackson Juison, Grayson, KY., 6-9, 21.1;
+ Marko Wright, Statesboro, Ga., 6-1, 23.0; Brian Wolf, Youngstown,
+ OH, 6-6, 21.0; (**) Arthur Long, Rochester, NY, 6-10, 14.9
+
+ 8. Louisville: Jason Osborne, Louisville, 6-8, 26.9; Matt Simons, Shelby-
+ -ville KY, 7-0, 19.1, Beau Zach Smith, Peoria, IL., 6-9, 25.8;
+ Alvin Sims, Paris, KY., 6-4, 29; DeJuan Wheat, Louisvile, 6-0, 22.8
+
+ 9. Iowa: Chris Kingsbury, Hamilton, OH, 6-5, 22.2; Jess Settles, Winfield,
+ IA, 6-8, 26.7; Ed Jenkins, Columbus, OH, 6-8, 24; (**) John Carter,
+ Oklahoma City, 6-9, 12.6
+
+ 10. Illinois: Kiwane Garris, Chicago, 6-2, 22.0; Jerry Hester, Peoria, IL
+ 6-6, 21.0; Brett Robisch, Springfield, IL, 6-10, 22.0; (**) Shelly
+ Clark, Chi-town, 6-9, 23.3; Thomas Hamilton, Chicago, 7-3, 17.3
+
+
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| 14.407 | 1994 mens final 4 | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Wed Jun 30 1993 19:19 | 9 |
|
Well I just received a letter from the NCAA, regarding the 1994
Final Four in Charlotte, NC. I wasn't one of the lucky people to
get tickets.
The NCAA received 267,497 applications (for 533,193 tickets).
Only 2,014 seats will be given out for the lottery.
steve
|
| 14.408 | College game migrating to NBA rules? Yes and no. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Jul 28 1993 00:22 | 22 |
| There are several (4) important rules changes in college basketball
this year that we should all become familiar with:
1. The shot clock is being reduced from :45 to :35 seconds;
2. The 5-second violation while dribbling violation has been
eliminated;
3. The definition of an intentional foul has been modified, such
that an intentional foul can be called if excessive contact is
used while fouling;
4. The game clock automatically stops after made field goals in the
last minute of regulation and overtime(s).
I've got no problems with 1, 3, or 4, but, IMO, the 5-second violation
rewards good defense, which I like. I'd also like to see the
elimination of the 10-foul rule. (i.e. after the 10th foul you stop
shooting 1&1's and start shooting 2) This rule was intended to speed
the game and has had the opposite effect. We should encourage good
free throw shooting, which my unscientific survey shows to be
deteriorating as a nation.
- ACC Chris
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| 14.409 | I like it | WMOIS::REEVE_C | | Wed Jul 28 1993 14:44 | 8 |
| I like all these rule changes. They should speed up the game and add
excitement. The bogus 5 second rule was more a test of referee's
counting ability than a mark of good defense. The reward for good
defense is the prevention of an easy shot or a steal, not a toot from
the ref. Refs are too much of a factor in the college game today and
anything that shifts focus from the refs to the players is positive.
Chris
|
| 14.410 | modify rules on offensive foul | AKOCOA::BREEN | Hello Warner, about that NESN subscription | Wed Jul 28 1993 15:15 | 17 |
| One rule which apparently is an unwritten one in the NBA but should be
standardized concerns the charge call and the practice of finding a
spot under the basket and waiting for a player who has passed his own
defender and taking a charge.
I would define an area of about 2' radius from the point underneath the
basket and make it a no-charge zone. I have heard nba players who
are announcing refer to this area and state that refs will not call the
charge when it occurs "under the basket".
This will bring back the drive to the basket which is still allowed in
some conferences (big 8) and obsolete in others (big east) because of
the call of a charge where (non)defender has simply stood under the
basket.
Tripucka and Laimbeer virtually invented the technique which should be
called "Tripuking"
|
| 14.411 | Keep the 10-foul rule | SMAUG::LOVEJOY | | Fri Aug 06 1993 19:13 | 6 |
|
I thought the 10 foul rule was not just to speed up the game, but
also not making it beneficial to the team that is fouling.
|
| 14.412 | Looking forward to watching this kid play. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Fri Aug 13 1993 18:50 | 9 |
| FYI - the ultra-superb Randy Livingston (PG headed for Cajun Country -
yuk) tore up his knee in a summer league game. He's already had
surgery and the verdict is still out on when/if he'll be back for this
season.
Bummer,
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.413 | Wingfield spells trouble. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Sep 15 1993 17:49 | 16 |
| Dontonio Wingfield, the superb 6-9 forward signed by the Cincinnati
Bearcats, has been arrested in his hometown of Albany, GA. Wingfield
started "tearing up the kitchen" when his mom refused to let him use
her car. He then resisted arrest after she called the coppers on him,
allegedly kicking one in the gut and another in the leg.
This is not the first time Wingfield has been in trouble and it won't
be the last (IMHO). Before moving to Cincinnati to attend HS he'd been
suspended by his high school (Westover) for several games. He'd also
been booted out of a state championship semifinal game for cursing an
official.
Good luck to Cincinnati with this problem child.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.414 | Durden ineligible | HBAHBA::HAAS | Primus Caverns Guy | Thu Sep 23 1993 16:11 | 8 |
| More problems for Cincinnati:
Cincinnati announced basketball guard LaZelle Durden has been declared
academically ineligible for the fall semester. I believe that it was a
case of not getting the necessary number of credits which I guess means
he didn't pass enough classes.
TTom
|
| 14.415 | Regionals | ROCK::MURPHY | The two Lous | Tue Nov 02 1993 17:44 | 5 |
| Anyone have the dates/locales of the regionals for this year?
Doing some vacation planning.
John
|
| 14.416 | here they is | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Carol's wearing maternity clothes | Tue Nov 02 1993 18:38 | 32 |
|
Yabbut :
1st round: March 17-20
Nassau Coliseum (Lawn Guyland)
Capital Center
Rupp Arena
Florida Suncoast Dome
Kansas Coliseum
The Myriad (that's Oklahoma btw)
Dee Events Center (Ogden Utah)
Arco Arena
2nd Round - same as the first
Regionals: 3/25-3/27
East Miami Arena
Southeast Thompson-Boling Arena (Knoxville)
MidWest Reunion Arena (Dallas)
West L.A. Sports Arena
snort that schleps, Murph!
I remain,
beginning to look at the 4 BBall rags I bought on Friday
Kev
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| 14.417 | AP Top 25 11/15/93 | ROCK::MURPHY | The two Lous | Mon Nov 15 1993 16:22 | 71 |
| You can stop all the ranting and raving over the magazines selections
because here is the official top 25 (well, probably every team getting
votes.)
1. North Carolina(61) 1620
2. Kentucky(3) 1434
3. Arkansas 1420
4. Duke 1305
5. Michigan 1295
6. California 1141
7. Louisville 1125
8. Temple 1095
9. Kansas(1) 987
10. Minnesota 902
11. Oklahoma St. 869
12. Indiana 854
13. UCLA 725
14. Georgia Tech 691
15. Georgetown 690
16. Virginia 648
17. Illinois 567
18. Arizona 410
19. Cincinnati 379
20. Syracuse 378
21. Purdue 314
22. Massachusetts 300
23. Vanderbilt 237
24. George Washington 205
25. Florida St. 192
26. Wisconsin 187
27. Marquette 174
28. Xavier, Ohio 125
29. Ohio State 110
30. Texas 104
31. Connecticut 89
32. Boston College 81
33. Georgia 67
34. Missouri 64
35. LSU 47
36. Seton Hall 46
37. Tulane 27
38. Memphis State 26
39. Nebraska 23
40. Alabama 15
41. Pepperdine 15
42. Arizona State 14
43. New Mexico State 14
44. Virginia Commonwealth 13
45. BYU 12
46. USC 12
47. St. John's 12
48. New Orleans 9
49. Western Kentucky 9
50. NE Louisiana 7
51. Penn 5
52. Western Michigan 5
53. West Virginia 5
54. Coppin State 4
55. South Carolina 4
56. UNLV 4
57. Utah 4
58. Iowa State 3
59. Michigan State 2
60. Oklahoma 2
61. Ohio U. 1
62. Tennessee St. 1
There they are. Enjoy.
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| 14.418 | Tar Heels No. 1 | HBAHBA::HAAS | No sir. I don't like it. | Tue Nov 16 1993 13:24 | 110 |
| Article: 9865
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (JEFF SHAIN, UPI College Basketball Correspondent)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball,clari.sports.basketball.college,clari.sports.top
Subject: Tar Heels to defend title from No. 1 position
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 21:41:08 EST
The biggest thing standing in the way of a repeat NCAA basketball
championship at North Carolina may be an embarrassment of riches.
With four starters returning from last year's 34-4 squad and perhaps
the best recruiting class in the nation, the usually understated Coach
Dean Smith acknowledges the Tar Heels are loaded.
``We should be good, there's no doubt,'' Smith said in an unusual
show of enthusiasm.
Members of the UPI college basketball ratings panel agree
wholeheartedly, as the Tar Heels were the unanimous choice as the
preseason No. 1 team in the country.
North Carolina collected all 18 first-place votes from UPI's panel of
sports information directors from across the country, opening with a
perfect total of 450 points.
Southeastern Conference rivals Arkansas and Kentucky were next in the
balloting, with the Razorbacks earning 409 points to hold a slight edge
over the Wildcats, who had 402.
Duke, the 1992 NCAA champion, was fourth and two-time NCAA runner-up
Michigan was fifth.
The basketball crop along Tobacco Road is fertile again, and nowhere
more so than at North Carolina, which gave Smith his second national
title in 11 years when it topped Michigan in the championship game.
Back are starting guards Derrick Phelps at the point and sharpshooter
Donald Williams on the perimeter. And they're not even the best part of
the North Carolina attack.
The Tar Heels' front line is as talent-laden as any in the country,
anchored by 7-foot center Eric Montross, a second-team All-America last
season. He averaged 15.8 points and 7.6 rebounds per game as a junior
last season.
Add to that returning starter Brian Reese at one forward and a wealth
of possibilities to choose from at the other spot -- senior Pat Sullivan,
sophomore Ed Geth or two of the most highly touted recruits among this
year's freshmen in 6-10 Rasheed Wallace and 6-6 Jerry Stackhouse.
``Our problem is we have too much,'' said Smith, who ranks second on
the all-time NCAA Division I coaching list with 774 wins. ``Our 12th man
should think he can play, and that's not the best way to have a team.''
If there is a team that has the ability to knock the Tar Heels off
their throne, it could come from the SEC. Arkansas in the West and
Kentucky in the East should claim their respective division titles and
collide in March in the title game of the league tournament.
No. 2 Arkansas, which was eliminated in the Sweet 16 by North
Carolina last season, uses a plethora of guards led by Corey Beck and
Scotty Thurman to press its way to success. The Razorbacks also can
depend more on their frontcourt this year, with Corliss Williamson and
Swight Stewart coming off solid years and freshman Darnell Robinson
expected to make an early impact.
``We have some bigger guys, but we'll still be quick and we won't
change our style,'' Arkansas Coach Nolan Richardson said.
No. 3 Kentucky lost All-America Jamal Mashburn, meaning his former
supporting cast must step up. Rodrick Rhodes was erratic and Rodney Dent
was foul-prone in the middle. But the Wildcats have perhaps the nation's
best 3-point bomber in Travis Ford.
The fortunes of No. 4 Duke will rest largely on the shoulders of
Grant Hill, a multifaceted talent who can play several positions on the
floor.
``It would be ridiculous for anybody, with the opportunity to coach a
Grant Hill, to have him do just one thing,'' Duke Coach Mike Krzyzewski
said.
Hill won't have Bobby Hurley complementing him at the point (in fact,
he may have to play the point himself), and he'll have to avoid the
injury bug that has plagued him over the last two years.
Chris Webber's early departure to the NBA has reduced No. 5 Michigan
to the Fab Four, but it's still a pretty formidable crop of juniors
Coach Steve Fisher can throw out on the floor.
Guard Jalen Rose and center Juwan Howard will try to pick up the
scoring load, and Jimmy King and Ray Jackson are still around to
contribute. Following them, though, is little experience.
``The fifth starter? I don't know,'' Fisher said. ``The loss of
Webber creates a huge void.''
The bench also is a problem, with the loss of such role players as
James Voskuil, Eric Riley and Rob Pelinka.
No. 6 California wasn't even ranked in the final regular-season
ratings last year, but caught fire down the stretch and eliminated Duke
in the second round of the NCAAs.
Guard Jason Kidd may be the premier player in the college game today,
blossoming into a force last year after Todd Bozeman took over from the
fired Lou Campanelli midway through the season. Forwards Alfred Grigsby
and Lamond Murray will try to take the pressure off their prize
sophomore.
``There's going to be a lot of hype, but our job is to focus on the
business at hand,'' Bozeman said.
No. 7 Louisville and No. 8 Kansas both finished high at the end of
last season, while No. 9 Temple and No. 10 Minnesota crack the Top 10
after finishing last year unranked.
Temple returns its top six players from a team that made a strong run
in the NCAAs before being eliminated by Michigan in the West Regional
finals. However, the Owls have a brutal early schedule that won't prove
its worth until March.
Minnesota is the defending NIT champion and has all five starters
back, including NIT MVP Voshon Lenard.
No. 11 Oklahoma State, led by 7-footer Bryant ``Big Country'' Reeves,
opens the second 10. The Cowboys are followed by No. 12 Georgia Tech and
No. 13 Indiana, which lost four of its top six players from last year's
team that finished the regular season ranked No. 1.
UCLA, with Ed O'Bannon joined this year by little brother Charles,
was ranked 14th and Virginia 15th. No. 16 Georgetown, led by 7-footer
Othella Harrington, was followed by No. 17 Arizona and No. 18 Illinois.
Cincinnati, which must replace all five of its starters from last
season, nevertheless opens at No. 19, with Massachusetts 20th. Syracuse,
back from a one-year ban from the NCAA Tournament, was ranked 21st.
There was a tie for 22nd between Florida State and Purdue, while No.
24 Marquette and No. 25 George Washington complete the list.
In keeping with longtime UPI policy, teams barred from the NCAA
Tournament are not eligible for Top 25 consideration by the UPI ratings
panel. Currently, no schools are under such sanctions.
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| 14.419 | Dean's upset because he has too much talent - wadda shame! | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Celtics win 1993-94 NBA Title | Thu Nov 18 1993 14:37 | 9 |
| "Our problem is we have too much (talent)" says Rev. Smif.
At last some honesty from the Heels.
It was nice of them to let W Ky think there was a way they could stay
with double figures lasted night. Western's only losing by 14 is
indeed a moral victory.
NAZZ
|
| 14.420 | | CAM3::WAY | You can't polish a turd | Thu Nov 18 1993 16:35 | 23 |
| Well, St Johns takes on Towson State tonight.
I don't know about basketball but Towson State used to have one of the
top jazz bands in the country.
Also heard on the FAN that St John's is officially retiring the nickname
"Redmen", but they haven't announced a new nickname yet.
Perhaps for a while they'll be known as those in the service with no
middle name:
John NMI Doe
NMI standing for No Middle Initial.....
So I could see something like that St John's University NCN
NCN standing for No Current Nickname....
'Saw
|
| 14.421 | please not the johnnies | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Carol's wearing maternity clothes | Thu Nov 18 1993 17:00 | 12 |
|
Yabbut I think I'll cast my vote for "the LOUIEEES"
;^)
Bummer it's not on tee vee
I remain,
glad the games have begun!
Kev
|
| 14.422 | Westhead at George Mason | HBAHBA::HAAS | No sir. I don't like it. | Fri Nov 19 1993 15:11 | 4 |
| I just read where Paul Westhead has reappeared as head coach at George
Mason. He plans to do his run-and-gun thing, as usual.
TTom
|
| 14.423 | Harris to Minnesota..... | POCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Mon Nov 22 1993 11:41 | 13 |
| Eric Harris, one half of St. Raymond's/NYC renowned backcourt, has
committed to Minnesota.
Harris is a 6'1" G, who averaged 14 ppg, 5 rpg and 3 apg for the NY
State Champs last year.
He and teammate Kareem Reid, another prized recruit, comprise one of
the top guard tandems in the City.
Harris was also courted by BC, Long Beach St., Purdue and SHU.
Redmen Phil
|
| 14.424 | Clem moving the program into big-time | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Mon Nov 22 1993 11:57 | 10 |
| As a huge Gopher fan, tell me anything else you know about this Harris
kid. Did he just sign? Where did he rank in the guard/overall HS
ratings?
Maybe he'll come catch the Gophs at MSG this Wed/Fri.
Good news, thanks!
Spud
|
| 14.425 | MidWestern kids just *don't* leave the B10 for the BigEast | RHETT::KNORR | Dean > Wooden | Mon Nov 22 1993 12:18 | 4 |
| Another NYC kid who ain't goin' to the BigLeast. Ha!
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.426 | | 7806::ASHE | Les Nessman live at the turkey drop | Mon Nov 22 1993 16:55 | 2 |
| Or the ACC...
|
| 14.427 | Way to miss the point Walt. Kudos again! | RHETT::KNORR | Dean > Wooden | Mon Nov 22 1993 16:56 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.428 | | 7806::ASHE | Les Nessman live at the turkey drop | Mon Nov 22 1993 17:46 | 2 |
| I thought all UNC recruited from was NC and NYC... no?
|
| 14.429 | Walt couldn't get_a point if he were a pencil. Haw! | RHETT::KNORR | Dean > Wooden | Mon Nov 22 1993 18:00 | 6 |
| > I thought all UNC recruited from was NC and NYC... no?
No.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.430 | | 7806::ASHE | Les Nessman live at the turkey drop | Mon Nov 22 1993 18:39 | 6 |
| I got the point... that they didn't stay home. When have they ever
stayed home? Players go from NYC to UNC. Players go from Nywalins
to Georgetown. Is it that big a surprise to you? Maybe you don't
get it... The players that leave NYC to other schools is too long
to mention so what's one more?
|
| 14.431 | HTH. | RHETT::KNORR | Dean > Wooden | Mon Nov 22 1993 18:50 | 15 |
| > When have they ever stayed home?
Good job of defining how you HAVE missed the point. The ACC will
absolutely lock up a top-notch stud that's within its geographic
boundaries, as will the Big10.
The reason the Big East has dropped off in comparison to these
heavyweights is cause they can't lock down their own talent. We can
debate the reasons, but the simple fact is that the NYC area is the
most fertile in the USA for basketball recruiting, and last I checked,
NYC is a Big East town, and they ain't the best conference in the
country. (Not even close.)
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.432 | | 7806::ASHE | Les Nessman live at the turkey drop | Mon Nov 22 1993 19:36 | 3 |
| No, got it. I just don't know why this is now a big issue. Can you
diagram it for me?
|
| 14.433 | Re: Eric Harris | POCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Tue Nov 23 1993 00:24 | 16 |
| Re: 424
Harris has been in Kareem Reid's shadow.
Prep Stars has himin the "High Division 1 Potential"
Dick Vitale has him as a top player in the East
Big East/UMI has him on its Top 100 list
Street & Smith has him as an Honorable Mention
He's #51 on Sporting News' list
Redmen Phil
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| 14.434 | Hoping for a Gopher-UNC NIT game | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Tue Nov 23 1993 11:32 | 12 |
| Thanks Phil, for the info on Harris.
Re: Walt
You probably know better than I that ACC has to obfuscate the
incredible talent and top recruiting that UNC gets every year in order
to "set up the loss."
But I understand, yer just having some fun. :*)
Spud
|
| 14.435 | | 7806::ASHE | Les Nessman live at the turkey drop | Tue Nov 23 1993 12:25 | 4 |
| Yeah, if I grew up in the projects of NY, the first thing I'd want to
do is commute to St. Johns and stay in the 'hood. I wouldn't want
to get out at all. I think ACC's right Spud...
|
| 14.436 | Can't keep their own players home | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Gentleness overcomes strength | Wed Nov 24 1993 13:09 | 6 |
| Carolina rarely gets any players from in-state.
ACC_Chris - out of UNC's top ten players, how many are from North
Carolina? I'd wager no more than two or three.
NAZZ
|
| 14.437 | Nazz shooting from the hip (and missing badly) | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Nov 24 1993 13:35 | 28 |
| > Carolina rearely gets any players from in-state.
This is absolute 100% hogwash. UNC's top recruiting priority is
*always* in-state kids, and through the years we've landed the bulk of
the top talent.
Current Heels hailing from UNC include:
o Jeff McInnis
o Jerry Stackhouse
o Donald Williams
Off the top of my head other UNC stars who've hailed from the state
include:
o Phil Ford
o Brad Daugherty
o Buzz Peterson
o Michael Jordan
o Kenny Williams (Carolina signed him, but he failed to qualify
academically)
Why don't you try naming some top North Carolina talent who *haven't*
gone to UNC? (And don't bring up Cedric Maxwell. He was a late
bloomer who slipped past all the majors ...)
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.438 | missed it, this time | HBAHBA::HAAS | Schlegelian Dialectic | Wed Nov 24 1993 14:14 | 6 |
| And don't bring up Buck Williams whose loss still steams Dean's clams.
Another local talent/Tar Heel, Bobby Jones. Isn't Walter Davis from
somewhere around here too?
TTom
|
| 14.439 | North Carolina help needed for North Carolinian TTom. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Nov 24 1993 14:28 | 4 |
| Bobby Jones was a New Yawker, TTom. Walter was from Georgia.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.440 | A few more | KYOSS1::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Wed Nov 24 1993 17:18 | 4 |
| John Lucas from Durham was a pretty fair College player.
Dominique Wilkens slipped away to Georgia.
James Worthy from Gastonia another UNC catch.
|
| 14.441 | We agree - there's not much talent in Carolina | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Gentleness overcomes strength | Wed Nov 24 1993 17:52 | 8 |
| So you do not dispute my assertion that only three of this year's team
is from Carolina, right Chris? That's the bottom line. North Carolina
is a national school and can recruit from anywhere. Like Notre Dame in
football, they take whatever players they want, from wherever they
want. How these schools don't win several National Championships in
their respective sports each decade is a mystery to me.
NAZZ
|
| 14.442 | I'm so embarassed! | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Nov 24 1993 18:59 | 5 |
| Not sure how I forgot Worthy. Everytime I drive up north and pass thru
Gastonia I think of his 28 big-ones in the '82 finals.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.443 | Will Nazz obfuscate further and go for point #3? | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Nov 24 1993 19:02 | 8 |
| Nice obfuscation Nazz. You start out (desperately) trying to make the
point that the Tar Heels don't recruit very well in-state and end up
concluding that the state of North Carolina doesn't have much talent.
Haw haw!!!
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.444 | Straying far for talent | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Wed Nov 24 1993 19:08 | 9 |
| NAZZ:
You are correct. UNC has often been underrepresented on its basketball
by instate players. The state of North Carolina has always been near
the top in producing high school talent.
UNC is not the only state school that goes national in trying to
procure top talent. The Tar Heels are nationally known and benefit from
that rep in recruiting.
|
| 14.445 | UNC recruits internationally too, but we DON'T hire guns ... | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Nov 24 1993 19:16 | 15 |
| There's no question that UNC has the ability to recruit nationally. So
does Duke. (In basketball, BTW, Notre Dame *doesn't* because they're
not in a major conference and they don't get the TV exposure.)
Carolina has been mining NYC talent since the 50's. (Their 1957
Champeenship team - the one that beat Wilt Chamberlain - was largely
made up of New York players.)
But the fact is UNC will ALWAYS look *first* at in-state players.
(This is virtually a direct quote I've heard Dean make numerous times.)
The fact that there aren't enough top-notch studs in North Carolina to
make up an entire Tar Heel roster is axiomatic.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.446 | | STRATA::GARRY | Dallas Cowboys back where they belong #1 | Thu Nov 25 1993 03:29 | 10 |
| Someone was right in here that UMASS would cover..I believe it was
Mr Knorr...but he probably never ever ever in his dreams thought that
UMASS would win outright....which they did .......great win for UMASS
but I have a big question as I only caught the last minute of
regulation and the OT where was All World Montross...I saw him on the
sidelines cheering but if he's a stud as they say he should be in there
leading his team.
T
|
| 14.447 | Guess... | ROCK::MURPHY | The two Lous | Mon Nov 29 1993 04:01 | 7 |
| Well c'mon - you should be able to figure that one
out.
They generally don't allow players with 5 PF's to play.
No other reason possible.
|
| 14.448 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Nov 29 1993 12:46 | 1 |
| Yup, Montross fouled out.
|
| 14.449 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie is one year old!!! | Mon Nov 29 1993 16:19 | 6 |
| 14.450 | An excellent time to lose | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Nov 29 1993 17:20 | 7 |
| Though he wouldn't admit it,Dean isn't all that upset with the
loss,actually a little pleased that he won't have to deal with the
added pressure of being #1 and unbeaten like the 82-83 team carried
deep into the season.
UNC has looked sloppy so far trying to figure out who is going to
replace George Lynch.
|
| 14.451 | For a second I thought it was_a BigEast game. :^( | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Mon Nov 29 1993 17:43 | 5 |
| Bob if there were anymore fouls called in that game we would've ended
up with both teams' water boys and equipment managers playing.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.452 | The "Knightmare before Christmas" TM :*O | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Wed Dec 08 1993 11:46 | 8 |
| It's getting to the point now in Bloomington where even the IU fans are
disgusted with FatBob. Last night he took it out on his son in front
of the whole arena. I guess they were only up 18 at the time.
The man will not be missed.
Spud
|
| 14.453 | What'd they do? | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Dec 08 1993 12:32 | 8 |
| re: .-1
Tell us more, Spud. What makes you think the IU fans are disgusted
with FatBob? (I didn't see the incident where he dressed down his
son.)
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.454 | More of the same, unfortunately | CSOA1::SIMPSON_T | sweet soul dream | Wed Dec 08 1993 12:46 | 24 |
|
I think it may have been more like 25 at the time. :^(
Fans throughout the state have been upset by the screaming and
the other stuff for a long, long time. Everybody understands that
it's part of the whole package if you're going to have Knight
as your coach, but I don't know of anyone who still supports it
as somehow necessary or important to his coaching (although I
suspect some of the college-age fans still might think it's
cute).
At the same time, any kid who goes there (even HIS kid) *SHOULD*
know exactly what they're getting into. It's well-documented and
heavily publicized. If that's not the environment they want they
should cross Indiana off of their list when they're being recruited
(a lot of them do) or, if they're already there, transfer (again,
quite a few do).
As an alum and a fan, I find the behavior embarrassing. As a fan,
it disappoints me because I believe Knight would have been EVEN
MORE successful in his career if he would/could have eliminated that
stuff, and kept the rest of his style in place.
tom
|
| 14.455 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie is one year old!!! | Wed Dec 08 1993 16:24 | 9 |
| Heard an intersting interview ont he radio yesterday (on my main Dale Arnold's
show). Guess there is a new book out about UMich and the Fab 5. Most
interesting point was that NONE of the fab 5 had either Indiana or UNC on
their "visit" list. None of them even considered going to a school with a
"system". Two ways to look at that - fans have been treated to five (now four)
talented young guys "doing their thing", but on the other hand, how many
champeenships have they/will they win?
=Bob=
|
| 14.456 | No baggy shorts, perhaps? | CSOA1::SIMPSON_T | sweet soul dream | Wed Dec 08 1993 16:39 | 6 |
|
Interesting. Was there any information available on exactly
what these guys consider a "system"?
tom
|
| 14.457 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie is one year old!!! | Wed Dec 08 1993 16:54 | 8 |
| Funny you should mention the baggy shorts - the author said that the thing that
made Webber decide to come out was when one day he went to a fast food joint,
and didn't have enough money to buy lunch. He then went to the book store, and
saw his jersey number hanging up, along with the baggy shorts, for sale at $75
apiece. That clinched it for him, and he decided to partake in the wealth
offered by the NBA
=Bob=
|
| 14.458 | BC wins 5-0 record | SALEM::STIG | And every eye shall see | Fri Dec 10 1993 12:04 | 3 |
| BC beat Syracuse handidly last night.
stig
|
| 14.459 | Prop48 revisited. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Tue Dec 14 1993 17:31 | 24 |
| Well it looks like we've finally got an answer for the inherient
unfairness of Prop48. It's always been a mystery to me how supposedly
intelligent people came up with an algorithm that robs from the poor
(i.e. if you're a non-qualifier you've gotta pay for your own first
year tuition) and makes graduating more difficult for the less
intelligent (non-qualifiers cannot be red-shirted), ..... and now we
know.
In case you missed the answer, it seems the whistle has been blown on
the fact that a goodly number of psychologists who supply the NCAA
decision-makers with academic statistics are into eugenics in a big
way. Specifically, they're into a scary pseudo-science called Beyondism
which has two (2) main pillars to its philosophy:
1. People of superior intellectual ability and valuable social traits
should be encouraged to have large families and favored in every
way.
2. Control people who have negative traits.
Amazing.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.460 | | DECWET::METZGER | America's most beloved game show host | Tue Dec 14 1993 17:54 | 16 |
|
Who blew the whistle? The coaches that want to lower the academic requirements
for athletes? The guys that think sports are more important than education. The
guys that want to send a message to the youths of America that it's O.k. not to
study if you can dribble or throw because we'll get you into college anyway (if
you're good enough..than we'll make some cash off of you and throw you away
like a used kleenex when you're past usefullness for us)
The limits on prop 48 you mentioned are wrong. If fact I'm in favor of
mandatory red-shirting for prop 48 athletes, give them a full scholarship from
day 1 and give them 1 year to concentrate on the books only with a maximum
amount of practice time per week.
What's the motive behind some of these people though?
Metz
|
| 14.461 | Please... let's bring back no standards and the bogus degrees... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Dec 14 1993 18:00 | 27 |
|
> In case you missed the answer, it seems the whistle has been blown on
> the fact that a goodly number of psychologists who supply the NCAA
> decision-makers with academic statistics are into eugenics in a big
> way. Specifically, they're into a scary pseudo-science called Beyondism
> which has two (2) main pillars to its philosophy:
Alright, who let MrT back onto the network? I suppose the NCAA is
secretly sterilizing its Prop-48 students as one of the requirements,
too. How else could NCAA eligibility be tied into the stated goal of
selective population control?
By the way, I don't believe that the no-redshirt rule deprives the
athlete of that last year on scholarship, the fifth year in school
(athletes can still stay in school on scholarship after their athletic
eligibility has expired). If anything, the rule was instituted to
prevent your more unscrupulous coaches from making Prop-48s automatic
redshirts, so they can get their full four athletic years in regardless
and almost totally defeat the incentive to meet the academic standards.
The comment that the NCAA prejudicially "makes graduating more difficult
for the less intelligent" is just a little bit ridiculous, when in
essence what you're saying is that the NCAA has the audacity to demand
that athletes graduate on four years' worth of scholarship like most
everyone else has to...
glenn
|
| 14.462 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Dec 14 1993 18:58 | 9 |
| 14.463 | What's the logic having Prop48 casualty pay 1st year tuition? | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Tue Dec 14 1993 19:26 | 8 |
| Yea, this wild-aced idea of mine that the NCAA is practicing eugenics
is so wacky that Congress is demanding that a series of questions
around these "Beyondism" shrinks be answered by December 20.
Ha!
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.464 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Dec 14 1993 19:48 | 5 |
| 14.465 | Mac lightens up the afternoon with some humor. Good work! | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Tue Dec 14 1993 20:02 | 24 |
| > Who says a kid has a right to a high priced education just because he
> can put a ball in a hoop?
This has to be one of your more classic statements Mac, and that's
sayin' something. Haw haw!!! Like, these Prop48 kids aren't gonna
turn around and literally bring in *millions* of dollars to the
university, are they?! Naw.
Can you say "Exploitation"? I knew ya could. But making the kid *pay*
for his education is a downright slap in the face. I can only hope that
he's receiving some kindof under the table money from some fat-cat alum
so's he can at least buy books to study from.
> If he can't qualify for a school based on his academics, why should
> he be there?
Why not tell us 1+1=3? The kid has ALREADY been admitted to the
school!
You are awful funny though Mac, gotta give ya that much. Haw haw!!!!
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.466 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Dec 14 1993 20:32 | 3 |
| So, ACChris, why do you get so hopped up over graduation rates and NCAA
violations? You obviously are in favor of just paying these kids to
play hoops.
|
| 14.467 | Q? | ROCK::MURPHY | Number 20 and rebounding | Tue Dec 14 1993 20:38 | 6 |
| Q? Do Prop 48's not get scholarship the first year?
I think they do get a scholarship, just cannot practice or play.
Murph
|
| 14.468 | You got Q's, I got Answers. | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Tue Dec 14 1993 22:43 | 13 |
| Actually Mac, I am in favor of paying the players who are bringing in
untold millions to the University a stipend to at least compensate them
for the fact that they're not allowed to hold down any sort of
part-time job. BTW, both Dean Smith and Bobby Knight, to name but two
(2), are in favor of this as well.
re: Murph
Nope, the player is not on a full ride and has to fork over part/all of
his tuition out of his own pocket.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.469 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Wed Dec 15 1993 10:45 | 9 |
|
Anybody got the score for the BYU- Utah St. game yesterday.
thanks Chappy
|
| 14.470 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Dec 15 1993 12:45 | 7 |
| So ACChris, if he ain't playing (i.e. redshirted), how is he bringing
in millions to the University?
What prohibits a player from having a part-time job? Are they banned
from the work-study program? Are they not allowed to work at
McDonald's? Or are they just prohibited from getting paid to work a
phony part-time job?
|
| 14.471 | More ... | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Dec 15 1993 13:00 | 15 |
| That is correct Mac, they are not allowed to hold any type of job
during the school year. During the summer though they can work,
although most players at this level dedicate the off-season to summer
classes, physical training, and of course basketball.
Redshirts bring in millions to the University because the player still
will have four (4) years of eligibility. This contrasts with Prop48
casualties who, because of eugenics psychologists who want to penalyze
these folks because they supposedly can't contribute to society enough,
are only granted three (3) years of eligibility.
HTH,
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.472 | What a crock... was eugenics advanced by 0% grad rates? | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Wed Dec 15 1993 13:05 | 37 |
|
> Nope, the player is not on a full ride and has to fork over part/all of
> his tuition out of his own pocket.
More "part" than "all". The supposed discrimination taking place here
still leaves the student with the financial aid benefits available to
all other students (which are significant in most cases involving the
truly poor athletes you've referred to), followed up with the four-year
scholarship. Amazingly enough, this draconian restriction still somehow
allows Prop-48 athletes to be recruited, attend school and play sports,
and even successfully graduate (unless the athlete wants to go someplace
which bans them outright, like the ACC-- where apparently they don't
just like the Prop-48 rule as it stands but go one further in embracing
wholesale the supposed "eugenics" philosophy behind it).
We've been through all of this 100 times, Chris. When Dean Smith by
his own choice hadn't recruited any Prop-48 athletes (before the ACC
rule) and the guy across campus Mack Brown was doing so, you dumped on
Brown and bragged about how Dean was commendably exercising his right to
select his kind of kids, the ones he felt could succeed in the classroom.
Then when Dean stated that in spite of his own high personal standards
that he opposed Prop-48 as a universal rule, you of course were forced to
change your position on this standard. Given the mess that had come about
under the Jerry Tarkanians of college sports, I still have no problems with
institutionalizing such rules for Div 1-A (in principle; this isn't to
say that the rule is perfect or can't be improved), because schools and
coaches proved themselves incapable of voluntarily behaving responsibly,
as Smith and some others coaches did. It's that simple; most coaches
didn't back up all of their idealistic talk and found themselves
knee-deep in sleaze (as the 0% graduation rates that you're so fond of
pointing out attest to), and the schools took action for them. I still
don't trust the coaches, this ridiculous eugenics red-herring (all of
the colleges in America acting in collusion!) that they're now throwing
out aside...
glenn
|
| 14.473 | Gophs at #15, to clobber Clemson tonight | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Wed Dec 15 1993 13:15 | 4 |
| BYU won by about 8-10 I believe.
Spud
|
| 14.474 | Clemson could win this game on a neutral floor ... | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Wed Dec 15 1993 14:15 | 12 |
| Spud, I wouldn't bank on a clobbering of Clemson tonight, although I do
think you'll win. Clemson boasts a very talented frontcourt led by
Sharone Wright and Devin Gray, and Cliff Ellis (as is his norm) has
brought in some decent JUCO talent for the backcourt. In particular,
this kid Merl Code is supposedly playing well, and he's still got Andre
Bovain, who's decent.
Chris x31018
|
| 14.475 | BYU 78, Utah St 65 | HBAHBA::HAAS | Party when you can, rock til you drop | Wed Dec 15 1993 16:11 | 0 |
| 14.476 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Wed Dec 15 1993 18:11 | 3 |
|
Thanks TTom
|
| 14.477 | Gophs win going away | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Thu Dec 16 1993 11:30 | 8 |
| Too bad I hadn't banked on a sound kicking of Clemson. Gophs led by 18
in the first half and after a short run they blew it back open and were
never seriously threatened.
Clemson shot a miserable 1-22 from three-point range.
Spud
|
| 14.478 | polls?? | SALEM::STIG | And every eye shall see | Fri Dec 17 1993 12:10 | 4 |
| would anyone care to release the top 25 polls in here??
thanks
stig
|
| 14.479 | | CAM3::WAY | You can't polish a turd | Fri Dec 17 1993 12:18 | 8 |
| >
> would anyone care to release the top 25 polls in here??
>
> thanks
> stig
I didn't know they were being held against their will......8^)
|
| 14.480 | Oh My!! | SALEM::STIG | And every eye shall see | Thu Dec 23 1993 11:54 | 3 |
| I'm a joker and I don't even know it...
stig
|
| 14.481 | | USCTR1::KING | | Thu Dec 23 1993 14:05 | 4 |
| Stig, don't give up the day job to try and make a life as a
comedian..... :-}
REK
|
| 14.482 | hahahahahaha.... | SALEM::STIG | And every eye shall see | Tue Dec 28 1993 09:43 | 3 |
| Rick...then how come you're still at DEC???
stig
|
| 14.483 | | USCTR1::KING | | Tue Dec 28 1993 13:59 | 4 |
| Was suppose to get layed off lasted weeek but the decided that I was
too valuable to let go.... At least for another 6 months anyhow...
REK
|
| 14.484 | thats the kinda guy dat i am.... | SALEM::STIG | | Tue Dec 28 1993 15:29 | 3 |
| Well Rick...DEC wouldn't be the same without ya...
stig
|
| 14.485 | | USCTR1::KING | | Wed Dec 29 1993 01:01 | 5 |
| Hey Paulie, how is Steve doing at the Harley shop? Lasted time I
stopped ther he was trying to improve on the Ma Bell phone-ofice
service.....
REK
|
| 14.486 | I don't know about Ma Bell though... | SALEM::STIG | | Wed Dec 29 1993 12:22 | 4 |
| He's doing good there. He recently started another job in Boston doing
some welding. I guess the bike shop can't pay all the bills...
stig
|
| 14.487 | Enquiring.................... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Thu Dec 30 1993 16:09 | 6 |
|
Anybody know what Memphis St's record is and who they lost to?
Thanks Chap
|
| 14.488 | | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Thu Dec 30 1993 16:42 | 6 |
| > Anybody know what Memphis St's record is and who they lost to?
Yes.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.489 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Thu Dec 30 1993 16:43 | 7 |
|
Well can you post it please?
Chap
|
| 14.490 | | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Thu Dec 30 1993 17:15 | 4 |
| Hey, I said *somebody* knows. That somebody ain't me.
- ACC Chris
|
| 14.491 | at least 1 loss | HBAHBA::HAAS | Party when you can, rock til you drop | Thu Dec 30 1993 17:19 | 5 |
| The onliest game I can remember is them losing to Arkansas which was on
ESPN. They hyped the game cause the lasted time Arkansas was No. 1 they
lost to Memphis St.
TTom
|
| 14.492 | | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Thu Dec 30 1993 17:33 | 22 |
|
Yabbut here's a partial answer, as my $.02 contribution:
11/21 High 5 America (exib)
11/27 Alcorn State
11/29 Victorian All-Stars
12/2 Tennessee
12/8 Arkansas
12/11 Georgia State
12/18 Fla. International
12/20 Texas - San Antonio
12/23 SW Louisiana
12/27 Jackson State
youze can take it from here!
;^)
I remain,
a partia
|
| 14.493 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Tue Jan 18 1994 15:37 | 5 |
| Another team ranked #1 lost. Kansas loses by 4 to Kansas St.
If UCLA can win their games this week they presumably would
move into the #1 spot. When was the last time UCLA was ranked #1?
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.494 | I think I might as well get a dish... | ROCK::MURPHY | Illini = overrated | Wed Jan 19 1994 03:53 | 26 |
| ESPN2 has been carrying quite a few college games. Now, my first
bitch is that my shithead cable monopoly hasn't added the station
to Arlington, just Cambridge (they are affiliated, when I call
Cambridge answers and transfers me to Arlington for service).
So I could suck it up and visit buddies in Cambridge or go to
a bar in Cambridge to watch the games. BUT - even though they carry
ESPN2 in Cambridge, the guide (same guide for Arl/Cam) doesn't include
ESPN2, the globe doesn't list it in their TV guide. The only
way to know a game is on is by checking the Globe Sports section
every morning. For example, Illinois-Texas was on. of course I didn't
figure this out until the game was over because I forgot to
check the globe that day until 3 or so, game was at noon.
Question - does anybody have a program schedule for ESPN2???
If I am going to have to truck to Cambridge for a game, I want to
KNOW ahead of time I will be doing it (aside from the fact I
am going to go ballistic on the cable guys for raising my rates but
not adding this station.)
I really hate the cable folks out here. 'Course, the main gripe
is not having my beloved 'GN so's I can listen to Harry spit
on Steve Stone all summer long...
murph
|
| 14.495 | ditto | HBAHBA::HAAS | Party when you can, rock til you drop | Wed Jan 19 1994 12:59 | 6 |
| Murph,
We got the same buttaids running our cable system. No EPSN2. No Sci-Fi
Channel. No cartoon channel. Etc.
TTom
|
| 14.496 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Jan 19 1994 13:08 | 8 |
| 14.497 | Continental Cable can be real slimey | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Wed Jan 19 1994 13:30 | 6 |
| Cambridge finally got ESPN2 beginning of this month. I didn't realize
it until I saw the Rangers games was on last night. Looked at the new
TV lineup and hey there was ESPN2.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.498 | Yup... | ROCK::MURPHY | Illini = overrated | Wed Jan 19 1994 14:27 | 7 |
| You've had it for a while - it just isn't in any guide so you have no
way of knowing you have it, or what is on.
CC sucks!
Murph
|
| 14.499 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Jan 19 1994 15:18 | 2 |
| Why is it CC's fault that ESPN2 isn't listed in any of the local
programming guides?
|
| 14.500 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Wed Jan 19 1994 15:39 | 4 |
| Well CC used to send out there own TV listings. Then they made TV Guide
their Official listing. So they should get TV guide to include ESPN2.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.501 | Another opinion | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | ChildsIsWrong-ReevesIsGOD! | Wed Jan 19 1994 15:46 | 7 |
| Actually, from what I've seen promoted on ESPN2, I'm glad I don't have
it. That clown in the leather jacket is about the last guy I want to
watch. I'm not an NHL fan either, so other than a college BB game
every once in awhile, not much is happening there.
Spud
|
| 14.502 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Wed Jan 19 1994 15:54 | 4 |
| Lots of hockey which is goodness. Gives me a chance to see the Rangers
a lot more often.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.503 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Jan 19 1994 16:43 | 9 |
| 14.504 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Wed Jan 19 1994 16:53 | 4 |
| yeah Mac; kinds nice to see a team that plays well, defends well - sorta
unlike the B's.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.505 | CC is gross! | ROCK::MURPHY | Illini = overrated | Fri Jan 21 1994 16:29 | 4 |
| I get a Cable Guide from CC which doesn't have the listings!
Murph
|
| 14.506 | where? | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Mon Feb 14 1994 15:34 | 8 |
|
Where are the NCAA Northeast Regional's played this year for college
hoop? I want to say the Meadowlands in NJ but not sure.
and what about the BIG EAST tourney? Madison Square Garden?
steve
|
| 14.507 | | HANNAH::ASHE | It's a nice day for - cardigan's... | Mon Feb 14 1994 15:36 | 2 |
| I think Nassau Long Island...
|
| 14.508 | | METSNY::francus | Billlls in '94 | Mon Feb 14 1994 15:44 | 3 |
| BE tournament is at MSG.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.509 | Tidbit..... | POCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Tue Feb 15 1994 01:05 | 5 |
| The first and second round games for the Eastern RegioxDn are at the
Nassau Coliseum.
Redmen Phil
|
| 14.510 | | DUGROS::ROSS | I'm a luger | Mon Feb 21 1994 12:38 | 12 |
| One man's All America team...
First Team
G - Grant Hill
G - Jason Kidd
C - Juwan Howard
F - Glenn Robinson
F - Donyell Marshall
Three juniors, a soph, and one senior. I would expect to see all of
them in the NBA next year.
|
| 14.511 | | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Mon Feb 21 1994 12:45 | 13 |
| > F - Donyell Marshall
>
> Three juniors, a soph, and one senior. I would expect to see all of
> them in the NBA next year.
>
Word around town right now is that Donyell is staying put.
Can't guarantee that will last, but that's the word today....
'Saw
|
| 14.512 | | 38346::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Feb 21 1994 13:01 | 2 |
| If Larry Bird were a GM and had the first pick in the draft, he'd draft
Marshall.
|
| 14.513 | | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Mon Feb 21 1994 13:02 | 5 |
| > If Larry Bird were a GM and had the first pick in the draft, he'd draft
> Marshall.
Yeah, so would I. So what.
|
| 14.514 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Mon Feb 21 1994 13:06 | 8 |
| 14.515 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 21 1994 13:12 | 7 |
| <<< Note 14.514 by MSBCS::BRYDIE "I need somebody to shove!" >>>
> I think an endorsement from Lawwy carries just a little more weight
> than an endorsement from Frank Way.
Why ? Just because Larry was a great player doesn't make him a great
judge of future talent.
|
| 14.516 | | 38346::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Feb 21 1994 13:19 | 4 |
| 14.517 | | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Mon Feb 21 1994 13:44 | 4 |
| > I think an endorsement from Lawwy carries just a little more weight
> than an endorsement from Frank Way.
Depends on what we're endorsing....8^)
|
| 14.518 | | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Mon Feb 21 1994 14:08 | 10 |
| > I think an endorsement from Lawwy carries just a little more weight
> than an endorsement from Frank Way.
>>Depends on what we're endorsing....8^)
Frank wants to be like MarvelousMarvin. He wants to be an actor and an
endorser.. 8^)
MikeL
|
| 14.519 | Howard, I like eggs.....8^) | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Mon Feb 21 1994 14:13 | 5 |
| > Frank wants to be like MarvelousMarvin. He wants to be an actor and an
> endorser.. 8^)
And maybe even a dancer. Yeah, I think I'd like to be a dancer.....
|
| 14.520 | | FRETZ::HEISER | shut up 'n' jam! | Mon Feb 21 1994 14:38 | 2 |
| Larry also said Penny Hardaway was the best player in last year's
draft.
|
| 14.521 | Why Marshall will come out | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Bruno Kirby: Cop on the Edge | Mon Feb 21 1994 17:12 | 18 |
| IMO, the NBA draft this year will contain more underclassmen than
seniors. For the first time, the NCAA has instituted a 30 day period
when underclassmen can renounce the pros anda return to their schools.
So, if Marshall gets picked in the top three (very likely) and doesn't
want to go to Dallas say, he can return to UConn for his senior season.
Or he can take the big bucks. Also, NBA teams will retain draft rights
to any player they select until the day before the following year's
draft. So theoretically, Marshall could get drafted by Dallas, go back
to UConn, play his senior season, then go back to Dallas and say make
me a great offer by the draft, or I'm back in the pool. Or he could
say trade my rights to Boston or you'll get nothing for the pick.
It's a very interesting situation, and the underclassmen have all the
leverage. A player who will be a lottery pick would be foolish to not
at least declare for the draft and see what happens.
NAZZ
|
| 14.522 | | DOCTP::TESSIER | | Mon Feb 21 1994 17:26 | 7 |
| Nazz, that's not my understanding of how the new rule works. As I
understand it, if an underclassman enters the draft, then decides to
return to school, the team that drafted him retains his rights for
one year after his projected graduation date. This protects teams
from getting burned in the draft by the scenario you described.
Ken
|
| 14.523 | Draft to be killed. Good Riddance. | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Mon Feb 21 1994 17:59 | 9 |
| Didn't the nba players assoc. state their intention to have the draft
disposed of in the next contract. With a cap in place I see no need
for a draft and it would certainly give the lower echelon players a
better chance and avoid the jon barry situations.
Of course the Chris Webber's would make out better, a 11-28 probably
worse. And if teams are going to court to prove they are individual
entities then how can they collude to deprive college seniors of right
to bargain.
|
| 14.524 | A slight difference in current interpretration | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Bruno Kirby: Cop on the Edge | Mon Feb 21 1994 18:35 | 6 |
| Ken, what you described is a proposal the NBA has on the table. What I
described (teams owns rights for one year wuntil the next draft) is how
things work now. Of course witht he NBA players contract expiring this
June, all bets could be off anyway.
NAZZ
|
| 14.525 | | DUGROS::ROSS | I'm a luger | Sat Feb 26 1994 01:27 | 3 |
| I've seen the future of basketball and his name is Jason Kidd. The
best passer I have seen since Larry Bird. He'll be an NBA All Star
in his rookie season.
|
| 14.526 | anyone else care to enter theirs? | CNTROL::CHILDS | I need a Rasberry Lollipop | Sun Feb 27 1994 14:09 | 16 |
|
agreed Doug. If he declares he should be the first player taken. I know
if I was a GM, I'd take him.
IMO first team All-American
Kidd
Robinson
Marshall
Hill
Bailey
while I think Kidd is the best all around better player for what he has
done for his team this year, I'd vote Marshall college player of the year...
mike
|
| 14.527 | The great Damon lost by [gulp!] 50 big ones yesterday! | RHETT::KNORR | Carolina Blue | Mon Feb 28 1994 01:32 | 1 |
| Bailey?????
|
| 14.528 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | I need a Rasberry Lollipop | Mon Feb 28 1994 11:00 | 13 |
| <<< Note 14.527 by RHETT::KNORR "Carolina Blue" >>>
-< The great Damon lost by [gulp!] 50 big ones yesterday! >-
>> Bailey?????
why not?
Packer agreed with me except that he chose Jalen Rose instead of Bailey
which I have no problem with. Knight lost the game by 50 yesterday not
Bailey....
mike
|
| 14.529 | | HANNAH::ASHE | One of the sweethearts at Digital | Mon Feb 28 1994 12:58 | 2 |
| Yeah, I'd take Rose over Bailey...
|
| 14.530 | seems like everytime I catch a boxscore he's got 30+ | CNTROL::CHILDS | I need a Rasberry Lollipop | Mon Feb 28 1994 13:04 | 6 |
|
I think Rose has more all-around talent than Bailey (except between the
ears) but that Bailey has been more valuable to his team than Rose and
that's why I chose him over Jalen.
mike
|
| 14.531 | Charter member, Juwan Howard fan club | LEAF::NAZZARO | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!!!!!!! | Mon Feb 28 1994 13:24 | 5 |
| First team: Marshall, Robinson, Kidd, Rose, Hill
Second team: Howard, Bailey, Williamson, Rozier, Lenard
NAZZ
|
| 14.532 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | I need a Rasberry Lollipop | Mon Feb 28 1994 13:34 | 33 |
|
Top 25
Arkansas 22-2
Duke 21-3
UConn 24-3
UNC 23-5
Michigan 20-4
Missouri 22-2
Arizona 23-4
Kentucky 22-5
Louisville 22-4
UMass 23-6
Kansas 22-6
Purdue 23-4
Temple 20-6
UCLA 19-4
Syracuse 19-5
Indiana 17-6
St. Louis 22-3
California 19-6
Florida 22-5
Minnesota 19-9
Marquette 19-7
Oklahoma St. 20-7
UAB 20-6
BC 19-8
Cinncinnati 18-9
**UAB and BC are tied at #23 or #24 whichever way you want to look at**
mike
|
| 14.533 | Did Minnesota Run it Up? | WREATH::SCOPA | | Mon Feb 28 1994 17:02 | 10 |
| Anyone wanna guess as whether or not Bobby Knight was royally miffed at
the point differential at the end of the game? Did Minnesota run it up
or was it just a case of Indiana playing poorly and Minnesota's
benchmen getting hot?
What goes around comes around and I would think that especially a
conference team who you see twice a year would tend to hold back from
running up the score.
Maj
|
| 14.534 | Like we should feel sorry for him... | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Mon Feb 28 1994 17:30 | 14 |
| Please. That was addressed during the game. If FatBob insists on
putting freshman and a football player, the Gophs (or any team) aren't
going to say, "oh sorry, let's baby you boys since you don't play
much." It was Knight's choice.
If you follow Big10 ball at all, you'd know Clem has been playing 9-10
guys regularly. What was he supposed to do, ask one of the football
players to go suit up?
Hey, IU beat the Gophs by 46 a couple of years ago. I didn't hear
anyone complaining then.
Spud
|
| 14.535 | Breakdown of complete ncaa sites | JUPITR::WCLUETT | COME AROUND TO MY WAY OF THINKING!!! | Mon Feb 28 1994 17:41 | 3 |
| Does anyone have the breakdown of sites for this years NCAA tourney???
/Boomer
|
| 14.536 | Payback is...well you know | WREATH::SCOPA | | Tue Mar 01 1994 14:22 | 19 |
| Spud,
Then I guess it was payback time for Minnesota. Couldn't happen to a
nicer guy. I would have loved to have watched that game, especially if
Coach V was doing the color.
* * * *
Looks like Georgetown may be playing it's way into the NCAA tournament.
I would not have thought that a month ago.
I heard somewhere that there's a Div. 1 team that has a record of
something like 23-2 yet they cannot go to the tournament. Did anyone
catch the name of this team and the reason why it can't go? I think
that it may be due to this team being in a conference that gets only
one bid. This team may be blowing out teams outside the conference
but may be second in the conference.
Maj
|
| 14.537 | when? | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Tue Mar 01 1994 15:29 | 5 |
| Ok now that it's March, does anybody have the date when the NCAA
tourney will start?
steve
|
| 14.538 | 16 more days | FRETZ::HEISER | shut up 'n' jam! | Tue Mar 01 1994 15:30 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.539 | | SKEWED::MCKAY | | Tue Mar 01 1994 16:15 | 11 |
| St Patrick's Day for the mathematically challenged!
I can see me now
"I don't want to hear drunken Sailor again turn up the
UCONN-Northwest Texas Southen game"
it could happen 8*)
but I doubt it!!!!
Jimbo
|
| 14.540 | Does this sound right? | WREATH::SCOPA | | Tue Mar 01 1994 18:32 | 1 |
| Seeds are announced Sunday, March 13th?
|
| 14.541 | 8^) | CAMONE::WAY | Aces and Eights | Tue Mar 01 1994 18:33 | 6 |
| > Seeds are announced Sunday, March 13th?
Yabbut, you might want to get spring peas in a little earlier, say,
around the 1st or 2nd......
|
| 14.542 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 01 1994 18:48 | 4 |
| First round, Northeast Conference Tournament:
Mount Saint Mary's 90, Saint Francis of New York 81
St.Francis of Pennsylvania 103, Long Island of Brooklyn 79
|
| 14.543 | march madness??? | BSS::MENDEZ | | Tue Mar 01 1994 21:14 | 4 |
| I thought the seedings would take place this coming weekend?
Frank
|
| 14.544 | | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Wed Mar 02 1994 16:48 | 7 |
| Speaking as a Big10(11) fan, these post-season tournaments are about as
meaningless as a Bee Gees reunion.
Let 'em beat up on each other again before the Big One.
Spud
|
| 14.545 | NCAA Tournament dates | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!!!!!!! | Wed Mar 02 1994 17:58 | 34 |
| 1994 NCAA TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE
-----------------------------
First and Second Rounds
EAST: Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale NY - March 17 and 19
US Air Arena, Washington D.C. - March 18 and 20
SOUTHEAST: Rupp Arena, Lexington KY - March 17 and 19
Florida Suncoast Dome, St. Petersburg FL - March 18 and 20
MIDWEST: Kansas Coliseum, Wichita KN - March 17 and 19
The Myriad, Oklahoma City, OK - March 18 and 20
WEST: Dee Events Center, Ogden UT - March 17 and 19
Arco Arena, Sacramento CA - March 18 and 20
Regionals
EAST: Miami Arena, Miami FL - March 25 and 27
SOUTHEAST: Thompson-Bolling Arena, Knoxville TN - March 24 and 26
MIDWEST: Reunion Arena, Dallas, TX - March 25 and 27
WEST: Los Angeles Sports Arena, Los Angeles CA - March 24 and 26
FINAL FOUR
Charlotte Coliseum, Charlotte NC - April 2 and 4
NAZZ
|
| 14.546 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 03 1994 13:22 | 8 |
| Penn clinced the Ivy league title last night with a win over
Princeton and is the first entry into the 1994 tournament.
Northeast Conference quarterfinals last night:
Rider 74, St.Francis of Pennsylvania 60
Monmouth 88, Mount Saint Mary's 77 (overtime)
Robert Morris 71, Marist 52
Wagner 90, Fairleigh Dickinson 81
|
| 14.547 | Score??? | BSS::MENDEZ | | Thu Mar 03 1994 15:27 | 4 |
| Anybody know the score of the Wake Forest vs UNC game last night???
Frank
|
| 14.548 | Wake 68-61 | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Thu Mar 03 1994 15:29 | 1 |
| Wake 68-61
|
| 14.549 | change of heart | CNTROL::CHILDS | Vadar, the world's greatest Athlete | Fri Mar 04 1994 12:12 | 14 |
|
I got to admit I was wrong and reverse my posistion on player of the
year. After watching the first half last night and seeing those unbelievable
numbers, I got join the majority and say Glenn Robinson over Marshall.
I still think I'd take Kidd 1st, but I certainly wouldn't cry if I got
stuck with Robinson. If I was the Celtics brass, I'd take Robinson cause
they need a scorer badly.......
Robinson though is more than just a scorer. What a great all-around game
he has. Kidd to me is smarter and makes his teammates better that's why
I lean towards him as #1.......
mike
|
| 14.550 | who's the fifth? | HBAHBA::HAAS | xen yen zen | Fri Mar 04 1994 12:50 | 11 |
| All this seems to make 4 people locks for All-American: Robinson,
Marshall, Kidd and, of course, Grant Hill. The final position is open for
debate.
But what we really need in this discussion is Chris Knorr telling us that
the 5th slot belongs to Eric Montross who, incidentally, is a finalist
for POY, if'n you can believe this. Certainly, Montross is playing below
lasted year's level and at a time when No Carolina needs someone to do
something, he remains flat footed.
TTom
|
| 14.551 | Jalen Rose | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 04 1994 13:42 | 9 |
| Montross should not even be All-ACC. My All-ACC team would be
Best,Sura,Childress,Hill and Forrest.
2nd team: Parks,Smith(Md),Wright,Montross, ?
Fifth AA spot should go to
Jalen Rose of Michigan.
Robinson,Hill,Kidd,Marshall and Rose.
|
| 14.552 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 04 1994 20:17 | 71 |
| Conference Tournament Results From March 3rd:
Ohio Valley Conference
First Round
Morehead State 83, Eastern Kentucky 78
Tennessee State 61, Middle Tennessee State 60
Tennessee Tech 101, Austin Peay State 91
Southern Conference
First Round
Furman 75, Citadel 70
Virginia Military 84, Marshall 62
Trans America Athletic Conference
First Round
Central Florida 90, Mercer 68
Samford 78, Georgia State 57
Stetson 91, Southeastern Louisiana 61
Centenary 69, Florida International 67, OT
VMI's opening round victory is the first victory by a last place
team in the Southern Conference tournament since Washington and Lee
beat George Washington in 1953.
With losses by the #2 seed Georgia State and the #8 seed Mercer,
the TAAC will be sending a first-time representative to the NCAA
tournament. UCF, playing on their home court, is now a definite
favorite (they were slight favorites over GSU).
Today's tournament action:
Big South:
#1 Towson State vs #9 North Carolina-Asheville
#4 Liberty at #6 Charleston Southern
#2 Campbell vs #8 Winthrop
#3 Radford vs #7 Maryland-Baltimore County
Northeast:
#1 Rider hosting #4 Wagner
#2 Monmouth hosting #3 Robert Morris
Ohio Valley:
#1 Murray State vs Morehead State
#2 Tennessee State vs Tennessee Tech
Patriot:
#1 Navy vs #8 Army
#4 Holy Cross vs #5 Bucknell
#2 Fordham vs #7 Lafayette
#3 Colgate vs #6 Lehigh
Southern:
#1 Tennessee-Chattanooga vs #8 Furman
#4 Appalachian State vs #5 Georgia Southern
#2 Davidson vs #10 Virginia Military
#3 East Tennessee State vs #6 Western Carolina
Southland:
#1 Northeast Louisiana vs #8 Stephen F. Austin State
#4 North Texas vs #5 McNeese State
#2 Southwest Texas State vs #7 Sam Houston State
#3 Nicholls State vs #6 Texas-San Antonio
Sun Belt
Lamar vs Arkansas-Little Rock
Louisiana Tech vs Texas-Pan American
Trans America:
#1 Central Florida vs #4 Centenary
#3 Stetson vs #7 Samford
|
| 14.553 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 07 1994 13:02 | 4 |
| So far, Central Florida, Pennsylvania, Southwest Texas State, and
Tennessee State are in the NCAA's. This will be the first trip for
both the Knights and Bobcats (who both have, I believe, first-year
coaches).
|
| 14.554 | couple more | HBAHBA::HAAS | xen yen zen | Mon Mar 07 1994 13:15 | 3 |
| Add Rider (Northeast) and UT-Chattannoogga (Southern).
TTom
|
| 14.555 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Mon Mar 07 1994 13:38 | 5 |
| uh folks, you missed the first team to make it in to the tourney.
U of Pennsylvania. Be nice to see them get a 5-6 seed. They are Ivy
League but have a top-25 ranking.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.556 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 07 1994 14:03 | 7 |
| > uh folks, you missed the first team to make it in to the tourney.
> U of Pennsylvania. Be nice to see them get a 5-6 seed. They are Ivy
> League but have a top-25 ranking.
>
> The Crazy Met
uh sir, we didn't miss it. It's in .553.
|
| 14.557 | Carlos Rogers > Montross | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!!!!!!!!! | Mon Mar 07 1994 18:04 | 9 |
| Saw 6-11 C Carlos Rogers of Tennessee State lead his team to the NCAAs
with a 38 point, 15 rebound performance against a 6-10 center who
battled him pretty well all night. Rogers looks like the real deal and
depending on how many underclassmen come out, could be a lottery pick.
He is agile, quick, and very athletic - all things Montross is not.
I'd love to see the Celtics take a flyer on this kid if they're
drafting 9th or 10th in the lottery.
NAZZ
|
| 14.558 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Mon Mar 07 1994 18:37 | 3 |
| I nominate TTom to run the NCAA prediction tourney this year.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.559 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Mon Mar 07 1994 18:54 | 3 |
| what are this week's rankings??
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.560 | | CAMONE::WAY | I did it my way...(thump) | Mon Mar 07 1994 18:57 | 11 |
| As far as I know:
1. Arkansas
2. Connecticut
after that I don't know.....
'Saw
|
| 14.561 | sorry, but no | HBAHBA::HAAS | xen yen zen | Mon Mar 07 1994 19:02 | 8 |
| >I nominate TTom to run the NCAA prediction tourney this year.
Gotsta decline there Crazy.
I ain't gonna be around fer the start of it. Heading out West to pretend
like I'm skiing and will be outta here all nexted week.
TTom
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| 14.562 | | DOCTP::TESSIER | | Mon Mar 07 1994 19:38 | 6 |
| Nazz, I think Rogers is projected to play the 4 spot in the NBA. I
think he's too light (approx. 225 lbs) to play in the middle. Of
course, he might be a much better power forward than Montross will
be a center.
Ken
|
| 14.563 | AP Poll | CNTROL::CHILDS | Soxs 3-0, Parade in October | Tue Mar 08 1994 11:16 | 28 |
|
AP Top 25
1. Arkansas (61)
2. UConn (1)
3. Missouri (1)
4. UNC (2) didn't realize Dean and Vitale voted in the AP
5. Duke
6. Purdue
7. Arizona
8. Michigan
9. UMASS
10. Kentucky
11. Kansas
12. Temple
13. Syracuse
14. Louisville
15. UCLA
16. California
17. Florida
18. Indiana
19. Marquette
20. Minnesota
21. St. Louis
22. UAB
23. Oklahoma St.
24. Penn
25. Texas
|
| 14.564 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 08 1994 12:21 | 19 |
| Add Liberty, James Madison, Loyola (Maryland), Southern Illinois,
and Pepperdine to the list of teams who are in the NCAA's.
Liberty and Loyola are making their first appearance, I believe.
Old Dominion had a 19 point lead with 7 minutes to go. JMU was
hot down the stretch and hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer to win the
CAA championship game by one point.
I thought the Patriot League championship (Colgate at Navy) was
to be played last night, but I haven't seen a score. I also thought
the Sun Belt title (WKU vs USL) was to be determined as well.
Semifinals in three conferences with automatic bids were held last
night, setting up these title games:
Temple at Massachusetts, for A-10 title on Thursday
Maine at Drexel, for NAC title on Wednesday
Wisconsin-Green Bay vs. Illinois-Chicago, for AMCU title (tonight?)
|
| 14.565 | and more | HBAHBA::HAAS | xen yen zen | Tue Mar 08 1994 14:59 | 6 |
| USA Today has the Patriot finals on March 11: Colgate at Navy.
Sun Belt is tonight with SW Louisiana vs Western Kentucky. The
Mid-Continent is also tonight.
TTom
|
| 14.566 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Mar 09 1994 12:45 | 69 |
| Add Wisconsin-Green Bay and Southwestern Louisiana to the list
of teams with conference automatic bids to the NCAA tournament.
So Far:
Central Florida, Trans America Athletic Conference
James Madison, Colonial Athletic Association
Liberty, Big South Conference
Loyola (Maryland), Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
Pennsylvania, Ivy League
Pepperdine, West Coast Athletic Conference
Rider, Northeast Conference
Southern Illinois, Missouri Valley Conference
Southwest Texas State, Southland Conference
Southwestern Louisiana, Sun Belt Conference
Tennessee-Chattanooga, Southern Conference
Tennessee State, Ohio Valley Conference
Wisconsin-Green Bay, Association of Mid-Continent Universities
Other certainties or near certainties:
North Carolina, Duke, Wake Forest - Atlantic Coast Conference
Massachusetts, Temple - Atlantic Ten Conference
Connecticut, Syracuse, Boston College - Big East Conference
Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma State - Big Eight Conference
Big Sky Conference tournament champion
Purdue, Michigan, Indiana, Minnesota - Big Ten Conference
Big West Conference tournament champion
Marquette, St.Louis, Cincinnati, Alabama-Birmingham - Great Midwest Con.
Louisville - Metro Athletic Conference
Mid-American Conference tournament champion
Mideastern Athletic Conference tournament champion
North Atlantic Conference tournament champion (Drexel or Maine)
Arizona, California, UCLA - Pacific Ten Conference
Patriot League tournament champion (Navy or Colgate)
Arkansas, Kentucky, Florida - Southeastern Conference
Texas - Southwest Conference
Southwestern Athletic Conference tournament champion
New Mexico - Western Athletic Conference
Here's a list of 48 teams I think most people would agree are in the
NCAA tournament. That leaves 16 slots for additional teams. Here are
the teams I believe are in consideration for those slots, in addition
to any teams that might win a long-shot tournament championship:
Maryland, Virginia, Georgia Tech, George Washington, West Virginia,
Providence, Villanova, Georgetown, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Illinois,
Michigan State, Wisconsin, New Mexico State (if lose Big West tourney),
Tulane, North Carolina-Charlotte, Ohio (if lose MAC tourney),
Coppin State (if lose MEAC tourney), Xavier (Ohio), Tulsa, Stanford,
Washington State, Arizona State, Alabama, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt,
Western Kentucky, New Orleans, Gonzaga, Brigham Young, Fresno State
I suspect:
Pacific or Long Beach State will win the Big West conference tournament.
The 16 at large teams will be:
Maryland, Virginia, Georgia Tech, George Washington,
Providence/Villanova BET 1st round winner, Nebraska, Oklahoma,
Illinois, Michigan State, New Mexico State, Xavier (Ohio),
Stanford, Alabama, Mississippi State, Western Kentucky,
Brigham Young/Fresno State WAC 2nd round tournament winner
Most likely other scenarios:
Maryland/Virginia loser is out; NMSU is out is it loses before tourney
finals, or NMSU wins tourney and no BWC 2nd place team; Xavier is out;
Stanford is out; Alabama or MSU is out, depending on who loses first;
WAC sends one team. Most likely to be added in under these
situations: Providence/Villanova loser, or Georgetown if wins 1st
round BET game; Ohio (if fails to win MAC); Tulsa; Wisconsin.
|
| 14.567 | | CAMONE::WAY | Fire at will!....(Will who?) | Thu Mar 10 1994 12:56 | 42 |
| I forgot to mention this but a couple of nights ago on the news I saw
a helluva hoops fight between to women's hoops teams, someplace down
in Alabama, I think.
These two girls were getting into it, underneath the hoop, and one elbowed
the other. The other reacted by taking a swipe at the back of the first
girls head. The first girl turned around and the second girl took a
full fledged swing at the first girls face. The first girl let go
with a round-house right that connected, and the second girl went
flying onto her butt. Man oh man what a shot...
I'm not Walt, but here's what it looked like:
Before:
------------------------------
| O |
| a b |
| |
| |
|_____|
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
b
After:
------------------------------
| O a|
| |
| |
| |
|_____|
Hope the diagram helped....
'Saw
|
| 14.568 | Multicoaches | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 11 1994 19:05 | 7 |
| Lefty Driesell became the 11th active coach to have three NCAA
tournament teams when Madison qualified. One coach,Eddie Sutton,has the
record of 4.
How many of the other 9 can you name?
Answer next week.
|
| 14.569 | I never was very good at this | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Fri Mar 11 1994 19:17 | 5 |
| Dr. Tom (no,I don't sell icecream) Davis with Stanford,BC and Iowa.
If Pitino got in with BU then Prov. and Kentucky are three for him.
Did Frank McGuire get one in before Carolinas?
|
| 14.570 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Fri Mar 11 1994 19:18 | 4 |
|
Larry Brown?
|
| 14.571 | Gene Bartow | CNTROL::KING | | Fri Mar 11 1994 19:18 | 1 |
| Gene Bartow with UAB,UCLA & ??Illinois maybe
|
| 14.572 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Sat Mar 12 1994 22:47 | 9 |
|
Arkansas, UConn, UMissouri, Duke, Arizona (#1,2,3,5,7) all lose
on the same day. Be interesting to see who gets the #1 seeds,
especially if Virginia finds a way to beat UNC in the ACC final.
To top it off Michigan was beaten by Northwestern. Madness indeed.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.573 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Sun Mar 13 1994 21:49 | 19 |
|
UNC lucks out with the #1 seed in the East. Two basic reasons.
1. So many top ranked teams lost on Saturday
2. The Selection committee is seeding teams based on history and not
based on 7 losses during the season.
The vaunted ACC gets 5 teams into the tournament; but wait the Big10
gets 7 teams in and that much-maligned conference the BigEast gets 6
teams in. The spin control from some of the denizens of note 21 should
be quite amusing.
Penn got a #11 seed. Now I know they are Ivy League and that means a
lower seed, but they were ranked #24 in the country so I really did
expect a 8-9 seed.
Umass gets a #2 - no surprise. Temple a #4 seed, somewhat surprising.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.574 | Need Game Times for Saturday (Ogden, UT) | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Mar 14 1994 12:38 | 1 |
| Does anyone have the game times for the SATURDAY games in Ogden, UT ?
|
| 14.575 | Tournament Matchups | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 14 1994 13:55 | 134 |
| 11.Pennsylvania 24-2
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6.Nebraska 20-9 |---------
--------------------- |
14.James Madison 20-9 |---------
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3.Florida 25-7 |--------- |
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10.Geo.Wash. 17-11 |---------
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7.UA-Birmingham 22-7|--------- | |
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15.Rider 21-8 |--------- |
--------------------- | |
2.Connecticut 27-4 |--------- |
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12.Ohio 25-7 |---------
--------------------- | |
5.Indiana 19-8 |--------- | |
--------------------- | | |
13.Drexel 25-4 |--------- | |
--------------------- | | | |
4.Temple 22-7 |--------- | | |
--------------------- | | |
9.Boston Coll. 20-10 |--------- |
--------------------- | |
8.Wash.State 20-10 |--------- | |
--------------------- | | |
16.Liberty 18-11 |--------- |
--------------------- | |
1.No.Carolina 27-6 |--------- |
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|
|---------
11.SW Louisiana 22-7 | |
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6.Marquette 22-8 |--------- | |
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14.Tenn.State 19-11 |--------- | |
--------------------- | | | |
3.Kentucky 26-6 |--------- | | |
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10.Seton Hall 17-12 |--------- | |
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7.Michigan St.19-11 |--------- | | | |
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15.Tex.Southern 19-10 |--------- | | |
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2.Duke 23-5 |--------- | | |
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12.Coll.Charleston 24-3 |--------- |
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5.Wake Forest 20-11 |--------- | |
--------------------- | | |
13.UT-Chattanooga 23-6 |--------- | |
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4.Kansas 25-7 |--------- | | |
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9.Alabama 19-9 |--------- |
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8.Providence 20-9 |--------- | |
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16.Central Fla. 21-8 |--------- |
--------------------- | |
1.Purdue 26-4 |--------- |
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|
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11.Western Ky. 20-10 |
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6.Texas 25-7 |--------- |
--------------------- | |
14.Pepperdine 19-10 |--------- |
--------------------- | | |
3.Michigan 21-7 |--------- | |
--------------------- | |
10.Maryland 16-11 |--------- |
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7.St.Louis 23-5 |--------- | | |
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15.SW Texas St. 25-6 |--------- | |
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2.Massachusetts 27-6|--------- | |
--------------------- | |
12.Tulsa 21-7 |--------- |
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5.UCLA 21-6 |--------- | | |
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13.New Mex. St. 23-7 |--------- | | |
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4.Oklahoma St. 23-9 |--------- | | | |
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9.Georgetown 18-11 |--------- | |
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8.Illinois 17-10 |--------- | | |
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16.N.C.A&T 16-13 |--------- | |
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1.Arkansas 25-3 |--------- | |
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| |
|---------
11.So.Illinois 23-6 |
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6.Minnesota 20-11 |--------- |
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14.Boise State 17-12 |--------- |
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3.Louisville 26-5 |--------- | |
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10.New Mexico 23-7 |--------- |
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7.Virginia 17-12 |--------- | | |
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15.Loyola MD 17-12 |--------- | |
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2.Arizona 25-5 |--------- | |
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12.UW-Green Bay 26-6 |---------
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5.California 22-7 |--------- |
--------------------- | |
13.Hawaii 18-14 |--------- |
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4.Syracuse 21-6 |--------- | |
--------------------- | |
9.Wisconsin 17-10 |---------
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8.Cincinnati 22-9 |--------- |
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16.Navy 17-12 |---------
--------------------- |
1.Missouri 25-3 |---------
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|
| 14.576 | Should be two excellent second round games | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass-Temple #4 for NCAA Title! | Mon Mar 14 1994 14:26 | 6 |
| Saturday in Ogden, you'll get to see the surprising Hawaii Rainbows,
fresh off their upset of Syracuse, play Cal, who struggled mightily vs
Wisconsin-Green Bay in their first round game. You will also get to
see Cincinnati upset the #1 seed, Missouri.
NAZZ
|
| 14.577 | Syracuse a.k.a. Upsetter Team | WREATH::SCOPA | | Mon Mar 14 1994 14:35 | 10 |
| >>>their upset of Syracuse
Syracuse is always at the top of my list when I look for a team to
suffer an upset. Of course 95% of that is due to the coach!
I kinda like Denny Crum's crew to take that Western Regional. Nazz are
you thining about a Cinci - Louisville final there? Remember...Van Exel
is gone.
Maj
|
| 14.578 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Hall of Fame #75 | Mon Mar 14 1994 14:39 | 10 |
|
Look for Syracuse vs Louisville in the West Final.
The West has got to be the Weakest draw.
Chap
|
| 14.579 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Mar 14 1994 14:51 | 9 |
| > Look for Syracuse vs Louisville in the West Final.
Will Syracuse get past Jason Kidd and Lamond Murray ?
> The West has got to be the Weakest draw.
Maybe, but this region may be the most entertaining. It's loaded with
teams that get up-and-down the floor.
|
| 14.580 | Not saying they'll win it, but... | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Mon Mar 14 1994 15:25 | 5 |
| Actually, I don't see any team in the West my Gophs can't beat.
They'll likely play Louisville on Sunday. That should be a good game.
Spud
|
| 14.581 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Mon Mar 14 1994 15:41 | 7 |
| and Arizona is also in the West. Another team sure to lose very early
in the tourney.
The Crazy Met
who is running the NCAA contest and the associated scoring contest this year?
|
| 14.582 | 7 of 11 | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Mar 14 1994 15:57 | 12 |
| Active coaches with 3 or more teams
* Eddie Sutton - Creighton,AkU,UK,OkSU
* Lefty Driesell-Davidson,UMd,JMU
*Gene Bartow-Memphis State,UCLA,UAB
Dave Bliss-OU,SMU,NMU
Eldon Miller-WMU,OSU,NIU
Pitino-BU,Prov,UK
George Raveling- WSU,Ia and USC
There are four others which I am not positive on.
|
| 14.583 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Mon Mar 14 1994 16:30 | 10 |
| A lot of coaches don't seem happy with the seed they got. There were 2 or 3
coaches interviewed last night on Boston's WBZ that were saying they should
have been placed higher. B.C. was one of them, I think Providence might have
been the other.
I was happy to see UMASS rated as a #2. They sure are doing better than they
did back when I went to school there and most of their teams played in the
old Yankee League (I think that was the name). This was prior to Dr. J.
George
|
| 14.584 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Mar 14 1994 16:31 | 6 |
| 14.585 | If anyone should be unhappy with seed, should be Penn | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983 | Mon Mar 14 1994 16:38 | 29 |
|
Latest AP ranking (pre upsets) NCAA seed
1. Arkansas 1
2. Connecticut 2
3. Missouri 1
4. UNC 1
5. Duke 2
6. Purdue 1
7. Arizona 2
8. Michigan 3
9. U. Mass 2
10. Kentucky 3
11. Kansas 4
12. Temple 4
13. Syracuse 4
14. Louisville 3
15. UCLA 5
16. California 5
17. Florida 3
18. Indiana 5
19. Marquette 6
20. Minnesota 6
21. St. Louis 7
22. Alabama Birmingham 7
23. Oklahoma State 4
24. Penn 11
25. Texas 6
|
| 14.586 | Contests | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Mar 14 1994 17:30 | 2 |
| Are we also having a contest to pick the winners of each game?
|
| 14.587 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Wed Mar 16 1994 11:49 | 22 |
|
Last night on Roy Firestone's 'Up Close' Bill Walton had a
few interesting comments. He for one believes...
o Montross will be a much better player as a pro. His reasoning
was that because of Deano's "system", Carolina players never
get into a flow. They're always looking over their shoulder
after every whistle.
o Bobby Knight has outlived his usefulness. After four years,
Indiana players are beaten down.
o After being shown a clip where UCLA Jim Harrick, responding to
alumnus Walton's criticism, said, "Bill Walton never coached a
game". Walton's retort was "many folks say the same about Harrick."
o The biggest surprise for me was that Walton picked UMass to come
out of the Midwest. Bill likes their defensive intensity and the
way they push it and hoist it on offense.
|
| 14.588 | GO UMASS!!!!!!!! | CNTROL::CHILDS | G. Maiewski - Rookie of the Year | Wed Mar 16 1994 11:59 | 7 |
|
let's hope Walton's as right about UMASS as he was about Michigan 2 years
ago when they were freshman........
love the comment about Herrick......
mike
|
| 14.590 | | CAMONE::WAY | Aiming for pb cookies with fork marks | Wed Mar 16 1994 14:32 | 11 |
| > Go Michigan!!! I've got them in the pool.
I want videotape on this.
If the Michigan cagers are in the pool with Karen, I hope no one tells
them about the three-drink rule.....
'Saw
|
| 14.591 | | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Wed Mar 16 1994 15:34 | 23 |
|
Yabbut,
here's a partial
Donyell Marshall - UConn made firsted team AA
and Jason Kidd
How did Mr. Monstross make 2nd team AA when he only made 3rd team ACC?
I remain,
waiting for the spin from you-know-who!
Kev
|
| 14.592 | fyi | FRETZ::HEISER | can you see who I am thru those eyes | Thu Mar 17 1994 14:16 | 1 |
| Mizzou's top 3pt shooter has been suspended and won't play today.
|
| 14.593 | My Picks | DYPSS1::ROPER | Take a Sad Song and Make it Better | Thu Mar 17 1994 14:35 | 13 |
| This years Final 4:
WEST : Louisville
MID-WEST : UMASS
EAST : UNC
SOUTHEAST : Kentucky
UMASS over Louisville
UNC over Kentucky
UMASS over UNC for the Title
- Rope
|
| 14.594 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:05 | 12 |
| Louisville
Michigan
Purdue
UConn
Lousiville over Michigan
Purdue over UConn
Lousville over Purdue
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.595 | UMASS over PURDUE for all the marbles | FRETZ::HEISER | can you see who I am thru those eyes | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:12 | 4 |
| UMASS
CAL
UCONN
PURDUE
|
| 14.596 | UMass over Temple for the 4th time. | LJSRV2::BREEDEN | Give presence not presents | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:20 | 5 |
| UMass
Cal
Temple
Kentucky
|
| 14.597 | I can dream | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:22 | 8 |
|
BC
Kansas
Louisville
UMass
UMass beats BC for the national title
|
| 14.598 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Give me LIBERTY or give me.... | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:24 | 10 |
|
UCONN
KY
ARK
Louisville
UConn Champions
|
| 14.599 | updates? | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:29 | 2 |
|
Anybody going to do updates on todays NCAA games?
|
| 14.600 | If somebody can pick B.C., I can pick these guys! :-) | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:39 | 14 |
|
Final Four:
Navy
N.C. A&T
Liberty
Cent. Florida
Navy over N.C A&T
Central Florida over Liberty
Navy champs!!!!
|
| 14.601 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Give me LIBERTY or give me.... | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:46 | 3 |
|
GO Liberty Flames
|
| 14.602 | | FRETZ::HEISER | can you see who I am thru those eyes | Thu Mar 17 1994 15:49 | 1 |
| St. Louis & Maryland tied at 8 after 7:00 minutes gone.
|
| 14.603 | | FRETZ::HEISER | can you see who I am thru those eyes | Thu Mar 17 1994 16:12 | 8 |
| St. Louis - 30
Maryland - 35 halftime
Rider - 24
UCONN - 26
Wake Forest - 22
Charleston - 17
|
| 14.604 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Thu Mar 17 1994 16:24 | 3 |
|
Did anyone catch Bobby Knight being interviewed on NBC last
night by Bob Costas? Any opinions?
|
| 14.605 | UCONN/Rider | WREATH::SCOPA | | Thu Mar 17 1994 17:03 | 1 |
| UCONN leads Rider by 10 with 8 minutes to go.
|
| 14.606 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Give me LIBERTY or give me.... | Thu Mar 17 1994 17:06 | 7 |
|
Conn 47
Ryder 35
7 minutes left..
|
| 14.607 | Seed #10 beats Seed #7 | WREATH::SCOPA | | Thu Mar 17 1994 17:19 | 3 |
| Maryland beats St. Louis. Maryland has never loat a first round game.
Maj
|
| 14.608 | | CAMONE::WAY | Aiming for pb cookies with fork marks | Thu Mar 17 1994 17:22 | 2 |
| UCONN 64
Rider 46
|
| 14.609 | Wake Forest Wins | WREATH::SCOPA | | Thu Mar 17 1994 17:34 | 9 |
| Wake Forest manages to get by Charleston thanks to some outstanding
trey shooting in the latter part of the second half. Charleston hung
tough.
Final score: Wake Forest 68
Charleston 58
Wake Forest scored the last 13 points and Charleston went scoreless the
last 3:27 of the game.
|
| 14.610 | early in the game | FRETZ::HEISER | can you see who I am thru those eyes | Thu Mar 17 1994 18:13 | 1 |
| UMASS 14-5
|
| 14.611 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Give me LIBERTY or give me.... | Thu Mar 17 1994 18:15 | 6 |
|
Yeah but what was the score?
Chap
|
| 14.612 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 17 1994 19:08 | 10 |
| EAST: Connecticut 64, Rider 46 (Final score)
George Washington 38, Alabama-Birmingham 27 (2nd half)
SE: Wake Forest 68, College of CHarleston 58 (Final score)
Kansas 47, Tennessee-Chattanooga 26 (Halftime)
MW: Maryland 74, St.Louis 66 (Final score)
Massachusetts 43, Southwest Texas State 27 (2nd half)
West: Hawaii 58, Syracuse 58 (2nd half)
|
| 14.613 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 17 1994 19:36 | 11 |
| EAST: Connecticut 64, Rider 46 (Final score)
George Washington 44, Alabama-Birmingham 43 (6 minutes left)
SE: Wake Forest 68, College of CHarleston 58 (Final score)
Kansas 66, Tennessee-Chattanooga 44 (2nd half)
MW: Maryland 74, St.Louis 66 (Final score)
Massachusetts 56, Southwest Texas State 47 (7 minutes left)
West: Syracuse 85, Hawaii 75 (2 minutes left)
|
| 14.614 | Put it In the Book | WREATH::SCOPA | | Thu Mar 17 1994 19:42 | 1 |
| UMASS romps over SW Tex. St.
|
| 14.615 | UPSET SPECIAL #1 | FRETZ::HEISER | can you see who I am thru those eyes | Thu Mar 17 1994 19:55 | 1 |
| George Washington wins as I predicted, 51-46.
|
| 14.616 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Question: Why is that every time I... | Thu Mar 17 1994 21:38 | 2 |
| Any updates? Final score on UMASS or Kansas or Syracuse?
|
| 14.617 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Thu Mar 17 1994 22:32 | 5 |
| Cal lost in OT to UW-Green Bay
UMass, Kansas, Syracuse all won, not sure what the scores were.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.618 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Fri Mar 18 1994 00:29 | 5 |
| Penn beats Nebraska 90-80
Purdue wins by 31
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.619 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Fri Mar 18 1994 03:17 | 16 |
|
Florida barely gets by James Madison
Michigan barely gets by Pepperdine in OT.
Florida and JMU were tied with 27 seconds left.
Michigan won in OT; Pepperdine had a chance to win with the last
shot during regulation.
re: stuff in another note
George, if you saw any of these games I don't see how you can actually
believe that the excitement generated in this tournament is generated
by anything other than the players and the fans.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.620 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Give me LIBERTY or give me.... | Fri Mar 18 1994 10:08 | 10 |
|
Pepperdine vs Michigan What a game!!!!!!!
Texas beat W KY
Wisconsin beat Cincinatti.
Chappy
|
| 14.621 | Yesterday's Winners | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Fri Mar 18 1994 11:42 | 15 |
| Yesterday's winners;
EAST SOUTHEAST
Pennsylvania Purdue
Florida Alabama
George Washington Wake Forest
Connecticut Kansas
WEST MIDWEST
Missouri Texas
Wisconsin Michigan
Wisconsin - Green Bay Maryland
Syracuse Massachusetts
Just one question... Did anybody have Wisconsin - Green Bay???? 8^)
|
| 14.622 | and I had J.Kidd in NAZZ's pool ;-( | TNPUBS::ALVEY | The sky's ablaze with ladies' legs | Fri Mar 18 1994 11:47 | 5 |
| Yes...
=Bob= had Wisconsin-GreenBay from the get-go...
dr.a
|
| 14.623 | | NACAD2::NISKALA | When will it all end? | Fri Mar 18 1994 11:48 | 2 |
| I picked WGB in my picks. I didn't bother to enter any contests
though, I just picked all the way thru. So far I'm 13-3
|
| 14.624 | Who's next to fall? | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Fri Mar 18 1994 12:17 | 8 |
|
I'm sure the majority of people had Cal, I know some people in
the office had them going to the final four!
If we saw UNC or Arkansas go down today... things would get
interesting!
steve
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| 14.625 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Fri Mar 18 1994 12:35 | 4 |
| 14.626 | | MKFSA::LONG | That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! | Fri Mar 18 1994 12:48 | 3 |
| Could the answer be Princeton in 1984?
billl for Mac
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| 14.627 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Question: Why is that every time I... | Fri Mar 18 1994 12:55 | 1 |
| I went 13-3. I had Cincy-Cal in the Sweet 16 though...
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| 14.628 | | PLUGH::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri Mar 18 1994 12:55 | 6 |
| The difference here is that Penn got a pretty high seed, compared to the usual
lower seeds the Ivy champ gets. Does anyone know their seed # (out of 64)?
Has there been a higher seed for an Ivy champ recently (Princeton the year
after they gave Georgetown their scare?)
j.
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| 14.629 | Princeton | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:04 | 4 |
| Princeton was a number 8 in 1992-but lost to Villanova in round 1.
Re: Ashe 13-3 - I only get your East and Southeast selections. You were
7-1.
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| 14.630 | | CTHQ::LEARY | It'sBeenALongTimeComing... | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:09 | 33 |
| Well I'm hosed. I'm one of those buffoons that picked UCal to make
it to the Final Four. Losing to Wisconsin-Packers of all teams.
Nothin' against them, but I'm sure you don't see dripping BBall
talent venturing up to the Wisconsin tundra to play BBall.
UCal simple stunk out the joint. No enthusiasm, no fire, no mo'
Madness. Jeez did Jason(he played like Nicole)Kidd go out with a
whimper. Not only did he play hideously, he now looks hideous.
Whoever told him he looked mahvelous with that bald-pated scruffy
attitude could sell refrigerators to Eskimos. Hail, all Jason has
to do is carve a swastika on his forehaid and he looks like a
youthful Charlie Manson. He'd fit right in livin' in the Canyon with
Charlie, Tex, Squeaky and gang. He musta butt-uglied the ball away
from hisself. Awfuul..plus the man cost me bigtime in da pools
I'm in!!
Most thrilling game had to be Michigan-Pepperdine. Great game..
Anyone see the little incident at the Michigan bench near the
end of regulation? That little Pepperdine guard (Lopez) was chasing
the ball near the Wolverine bench and as he decelerated, he put his
hands up so he wouldn't crash into the Michigan reserves sitting
on the bench. As he's doing this, one of the Michigan players starts
to get up and shove him back! I couldn't believe it. what a classy
guy! I dunno, Michigan is slowly becoming my heavy in this
tournament. ABM is mah motto (Anybody But Michigan). The only guy
who really aggravates me is the pipsqueaky nerd Dugan Fife. Good
ballplayer but a sneaky little twit..
There, I feel better.
MikeL
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| 14.631 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:21 | 7 |
|
Why didn't Pepperdine call timeout with 12 seonds left and the game
tied? I guess the thinking was that they didn't want to give Michigan
a chance to set their defense but, as we all know, it backfired. And
too bad Lopez didn't think to throw a hard fake. Rose was all over him
and probably would have bit hard. They could have won it at the line.
Great game, though.
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| 14.633 | Just win, baby... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:31 | 9 |
|
I generally despise Michigan and was hoping they would go down when the
game tightened up, but for some reason once again this year I felt
compelled to pick them to go to the final game. I think it's something
about the idiot savant Steve Fisher's almost Christ-like ability to walk
through mine fields and exit unscathed...
glenn
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| 14.634 | Lucky Michigan | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:39 | 8 |
| Was something wrong with Jalen Rose? He looked like he had no spark. He
wasn't enjoying himself out there. I wish I had Texas against Michigan.
I don't think Fife helps them in the halfcourt game. He just dribbles
around for 15-20 seconds and doesn't create anything. That was a good
block at the end of regulation.
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| 14.635 | | MKFSA::LONG | That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:40 | 3 |
| Here's the inside scoop folks...
Michigan gets taken out in the third round by UMass.
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| 14.636 | CBS manipulation | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:42 | 8 |
| 14.637 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Question: Why is that every time I... | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:42 | 2 |
| I picked them to lose to Texas...
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| 14.639 | He do look clueless, don't he? | CTHQ::LEARY | It'sBeenALongTimeComing... | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:45 | 10 |
| >> I think it's something
>> about the idiot savant Steve Fisher's almost Christ-like ability to walk
>> through mine fields and exit unscathed...
>> glenn
Perfect description of what many, I presume, feel.
MikeL
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| 14.640 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Fri Mar 18 1994 13:50 | 9 |
| Went 12-4
Fortunately, of the 4 that lost I only had Cincinatti advancing past
the second round - losing to Lousiville in the round of 8.
Florida-James Madison also had a great ending.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.641 | Live from NC..... | HOCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Fri Mar 18 1994 14:02 | 26 |
| I spent all day yesterday at the Nassau Coliseum.....
Some quick observations:
UConn slept through their first round win; UConn fans are annoying as
all hell.
Rider played well in the first half; their PG was super; their shooting
guard made some terrible fouls, taking a key weapon out of Rider's hand.
GWU/UAB was the most boring game I've ever seen; if UConn shows up, its
no match.
Penn was the most impressive team I saw; Jerome Allen was fabulous; if
they don't beat Florida, I'll be shocked.
Nebraska should stick to football; their defense was non-existent.
Florida/JMU first half was the most boring half I've ever seen; Florida
squaks by, but will get beat by Penn.
Aside from Penn,any team could've beaten all of the teams that played
yesterday.
Redmen Phil
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| 14.642 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Question: Why is that every time I... | Fri Mar 18 1994 14:09 | 3 |
| Not blasphemer, realist... this is a team that lost to Northwestern to
lose its share of the Big 10 championship...
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| 14.643 | Bring back ESPN | WREATH::SCOPA | | Fri Mar 18 1994 14:30 | 8 |
| I'm really tired of CBS doing this tournament. I would have really
enjoyed watching the Cal-Wis./G.B. game but instead had to suffer
through local news, Weheel of Fortune, and Jeopardy before heading
off to coach my BB team.
I long for the days when ESPN had round the clock coverage.
Maj
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| 14.644 | UPDATES | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Fri Mar 18 1994 16:08 | 4 |
| anybody doing updates on today's games?
steve
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| 14.645 | | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Fri Mar 18 1994 16:18 | 4 |
| In a see-saw game, SW Louisiana leads Marquette 34-31 at the half.
Spud
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| 14.646 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Question: Why is that every time I... | Fri Mar 18 1994 16:51 | 2 |
| UNC was up 6 at the half...
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| 14.647 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Fri Mar 18 1994 16:53 | 4 |
| I thought I could handle this home_office deal, I forgot about March
Madness...
Chip_GSH_Bach
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| 14.648 | updates anyone? | FSDEV::MGARCIA | | Fri Mar 18 1994 17:44 | 4 |
| Anybody have any updates puleeze? Thanks!
Mike
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| 14.649 | Finals ?!? | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Fri Mar 18 1994 17:49 | 1 |
|
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| 14.650 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Give me LIBERTY or give me.... | Fri Mar 18 1994 17:49 | 5 |
|
See 102.69
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| 14.651 | | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Golden Gopher hoops! | Fri Mar 18 1994 17:52 | 6 |
| UNC won 71-51
Marquette wins 82-59 over SW Louisiana
Okla St. beat NM St. 65-55
Spud
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| 14.652 | | DRAGN::BOURQUARD | This is not here | Fri Mar 18 1994 17:56 | 5 |
| I can get an AM station in my office that has CNN Headline news and I just
hear that North Carolina, Marquette, and Oklahoma St. have all won. The
game in the West isn't finished yet.
Dan B
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| 14.653 | Acc Sip[s | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | North Carolina blows | Mon Mar 21 1994 10:59 | 10 |
|
Big East 7-3.
Uconn National Champs? :-)
Chappy
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| 14.654 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | G. Maiewski - Rookie of the Year | Mon Mar 21 1994 17:08 | 9 |
|
well Bill Walton was wrong about UMass but he knew what he was talking about
when it came to UCLA and Jim Herrick.........
hahhaa
good thing I passed on taking OBannon in Doug Ross' pool........
mike
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| 14.655 | officals out | HBAHBA::HAAS | xen yen zen | Wed Mar 23 1994 15:36 | 52 |
| Article: 4697
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (AP)
Newsgroups: clari.sports.basketball.college
Subject: NCAA: Refs Handled Fight Badly
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 21:00:07 PST
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (AP) -- The officials who worked Sunday's
Georgetown-Arkansas NCAA game won't be assigned to further
tournament games because of their handling of a fight.
The NCAA said Tuesday that before assessing personal and
technical fouls against the two players involved, the referees
could have checked video replays of the fight.
The three officials were Tim Higgins, Dick Paparo and Tom Lopes,
although the NCAA did not refer to them by name in its statement.
Calls to the NCAA Tuesday evening were not answered.
Use of a television monitor to obtain information about fights
is provided for in Rule 2, Section 5 of the 1994 NCAA Basketball
Rules and Interpretations.
The NCAA's Division I men's basketball committee said it
concluded that using video equipment could have helped the
officials ``in more clearly reviewing the event on the floor,
including the bench area.''
To strengthen the existing rule, the committee adopted two new
measures Tuesday. First, the standby official must monitor replays
to decide if they reveal anything about plays involving possible
fights. And, the game referee shall consult with the standby
official to determine if television replays ``will help in a
fighting situation.''
Georgetown's Robert Churchwell and Clint McDaniel of Arkansas
tangled and fell late in the first half of Arkansas' 85-73
second-round victory Sunday. Two other players -- Don Reid of
Georgetown and Scotty Thurman of Arkansas -- were thrown out for
leaving the bench to join a skirmish after the play.
Churchwell and McDaniel were allowed to remain in the game as
the referees never asked to look at the TV replay that clearly
showed them exchanging blows. Game officials are allowed to look at
TV replays to determine instigators in fights.
``We felt we had definite knowledge of the matter,'' Paparo said
after the game.
No further action will be taken against Churchwell or McDaniel,
the NCAA said.
With 3:23 left in the first half, McDaniel stole an entry pass
under the Georgetown basket, Churchwell bear-hugged him from behind
and both players fell to the floor.
McDaniel then elbowed Churchwell in the head and Churchwell hit
McDaniel with his left arm. McDaniel kicked Churchwell as the two
got off the floor.
Several players tangled briefly but order was quickly restored.
A personal foul was called on Churchwell and a technical on
McDaniel.
McDaniel made both free throws and Georgetown made the one
technical foul shot, making the score 36-34.
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| 14.656 | | CAMONE::WAY | Valor | Wed Mar 23 1994 15:40 | 4 |
| He kicked him in da test-tick-cals!
'Saw_for_Hawk
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| 14.657 | Another Referee Miscue | WREATH::SCOPA | | Wed Mar 23 1994 17:01 | 3 |
| didn't I see an inadvertent whistle by a ref aid a team in a fast break
basket last night? Apparently the whistle blew and the defending team
relaxed allowing the uncontested layup.
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| 14.658 | Kidd meets men | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Thu Mar 24 1994 13:18 | 19 |
|
Yabbut too bad (seriously)
Jason Kidd's thrown in the towel and he announced in yesterday's
press conference that he's going to the NBA. So much for his
after-game comments that "there's still 2 years...." to get a
title.
I'd probably do the same thing if I were he but I can still bemoan the
fact that he won't be playing college bball (the best sport) anymore
and will enter "That's Entertainment" NBA.
I remain,
hoping to remember to buy chips and pretzels on the way home for
tonight's games
Kev
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| 14.659 | Back to School | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Thu Mar 24 1994 13:25 | 6 |
| If he doesn't like the team that drafted him however, he can just
go right back to school.
Whoever drafts him, that team is at risk.
Steve
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| 14.660 | Teams are protected. | DOCTP::TESSIER | | Thu Mar 24 1994 13:34 | 17 |
| Re.
> If he doesn't like the team that drafted him however, he can just
> go right back to school.
> Whoever drafts him, that team is at risk.
While it's true that he can choose to go back to school within 30 days
of being drafted, the team that drafts him is not really under any
greater risk now than before this rule was put into effect. If he
gets drafted, then goes back to Cal., the team that drafted him retains
his rights for up to a year AFTER his projected graduation. So if
Kidd really didn't want to play for that team, he would have to wait
three years (his junior and senior seasons plus an additional year)
before he would be free from them.
Ken
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| 14.661 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Member:RoyalCanadianKiltedYaksmen | Thu Mar 24 1994 15:09 | 7 |
| There's too much potential money for a youngster to ignore. All we
need now is for Big Dog to win the tourney and the conspiracy to
resurrect the Celtic-Laker rivalries will be initiated.
Kidd said yesterday he wants to play for Magic. Both teams are lottery
bound and the NBA conspiracy commands Kidd to L.A. and Big Dog to
Boston.
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| 14.662 | today? | AIMHI::SMILLER | | Thu Mar 24 1994 15:39 | 4 |
|
What time do today's ncaa games start?
steve
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| 14.663 | 7:00PM ish? #2 game ~10:00PM EST I think | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Thu Mar 24 1994 15:53 | 1 |
|
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| 14.664 | The Leprechan(sp?) is dead | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Thu Mar 24 1994 16:20 | 8 |
| re: Robinson in Boston. MikeH: in your dreams!
Fortunately the Celtics will finish out of the playoffs but high
enough among the rest to make their chances small at getting one
of the top 3 picks.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.665 | | FRETZ::HEISER | you got a problem with that? | Thu Mar 24 1994 17:40 | 6 |
| >Fortunately the Celtics will finish out of the playoffs but high
>enough among the rest to make their chances small at getting one
>of the top 3 picks.
tell that to Orlando. I'm tellin ya the conspiracy is in: Kidd to the
Lakers, Robinson to Boston.
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| 14.666 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:06 | 4 |
| 14.667 | | MPGS::MCCARTHY | Mike McCarthy SHR3-2/W1 237-2468 | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:27 | 7 |
| Unless I've messed up, the Celtics are the 7th lottery slot. If they
stay there, they'll have at worse the 10th pick. The odds of them
getting in the top three have improved over the last month or so.
The Lakers are in the 9th slot.
Mike
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| 14.668 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:42 | 4 |
| what are the current rules for the lottery??
The Crazy Met
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| 14.669 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:46 | 1 |
| TCM, check the NBA topic. I'm pretty sure it's in there.
|
| 14.670 | balls and maybe more | HBAHBA::HAAS | xen yen zen | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:48 | 10 |
| Worst team has 11 balls, nexted worsted 10, down to the 11th which has 1
ball.
Throw 'em all in and pull out the firsted 3. Then the rested fall into
reverse order based on record.
Afore anything starts, all tie-breakers are settled so the teams are
ranked 1 through 11.
TTom
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| 14.671 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:54 | 6 |
| TTom, that is what they used last year when Orlando won with the best record
of the lottery teams. They changed it to be weighed even more heavily in
favor of the worse teams.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.672 | not involved | HBAHBA::HAAS | xen yen zen | Thu Mar 24 1994 18:57 | 7 |
| Wail I can understand me gettin this wrong. The Hornets aint got no draft
pick, at least not right now.
I guess we could always trade somebody or something and maybe pick one up
which wouldn't surprise me a bit.
TTom
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| 14.673 | | FRETZ::HEISER | you got a problem with that? | Thu Mar 24 1994 19:36 | 3 |
| >what are the current rules for the lottery??
TCM, I guess those ponies don't make it out your way either.
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| 14.674 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Thu Mar 24 1994 19:40 | 6 |
| The People's Republie of Cambridge probably has some law about what is
considered proper treatment of ponies.
That law makes it prohibitive for the Pony Express to get there :-)
The Crazy Met
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| 14.675 | Just a feeling | AKOCOA::BREEN | And thy work is crown'd | Thu Mar 24 1994 21:22 | 2 |
| I have an idea that Red (who still runs the show) wants to get Yinka
Dare of George Washington.
|
| 14.676 | | OURGNG::RIGGEN | Atlanta Braves, Buffalo Bills, UNC Tar Heels | Thu Mar 24 1994 21:37 | 1 |
| Yinka Dare <= Micheal Cage
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| 14.677 | Dare seems much more a wide body than Cage | AKOCOA::BREEN | And thy work is crown'd | Thu Mar 24 1994 21:45 | 8 |
| I'm a little worried about his athleticism and sure he could use more
time in college but he is a body - 7' plus if I'm not mistaken and I
could be as I'm not an A10 guy.
A lot of the business of center in nba is having a wide body for
defensive purposes viz mr. cartwright of chi-town bulls who is annually
wheeled out for the nba finals and is often a critical factor if nor
nothing else but to cause a lot of contact.
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| 14.678 | The Big Dog had 44 for Purdue. what a player!!!!! | CNTROL::CHILDS | Dean's gone fishin' | Fri Mar 25 1994 11:22 | 8 |
| last night's winners and loosers:
Purdue 83 Kansas 78
Duke 59 Marquette 49
Missouri 98 Syracuse 88 OT
Arizona 82 Louisville 70
mike
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| 14.679 | Lottery Details | DOCTP::TESSIER | | Fri Mar 25 1994 13:25 | 19 |
| The new lottery uses 14 ping pong balls. From these 14 balls, they
generate 1,000 4-ball combinations. For example, a combination could
be 3, 5, 9, 14. Each of the 11 teams in the lottery is assigned a
number of the these 4-ball combinations. The worst team, Dallas, gets
the most -- 250 of the possible 1,000 combinations. The better teams
in the lottery get fewer combinations, with the 11th team getting only
5.
Currently, the Lakers are in the tenth spot, and the Celtics in the 8th.
The Lakers stand to get 8 balls, and therefore, have a less than 1 percent
chance of getting the top pick. I think the Celts would get something
like 26 balls.
After the first three spots are determined, the 4 through 11 spots are
assigned based on inverse order of record. The bottom line is that it
is extremely probable that the Celtics and Lakers will pick 8th and tenth,
respectively.
Ken
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| 14.680 | Now what do we have here... the Boston Celtics! | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 25 1994 13:46 | 21 |
|
> Currently, the Lakers are in the tenth spot, and the Celtics in the 8th.
> The Lakers stand to get 8 balls, and therefore, have a less than 1 percent
> chance of getting the top pick. I think the Celts would get something
> like 26 balls.
With the 26 combos (how do they determine how many each spot gets-- does
it go strictly by rank, or does the W-L record come into play too?),
there's still some small but not completely insignificant hope that the
Celtics can get one of the top three picks. (3 x 2.6%) ~= 7.5%, but
it's actually better than a 2.6% chance for the second and third balls
because a team will be removed from the draw with each pick, and it'll
likely be a team holding many combinations. So we're talking about
around a 10% chance that they can get one of those first three. Not a
good chance, but enough so that the NBA can make it happen and still
retain some credulity around the process. ;-) Now to get the Lakers
in there, we're talking a lightning bolt hitting right on top of David
Stern's head as he pulls the envelopes (we can hope, can't we?).
glenn
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| 14.681 | Clarification of underclass status with NBA | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - 1995 NCAA Champs! | Fri Mar 25 1994 15:48 | 6 |
| The NBA team that draft an underclassman who decides to go back to
school only holds his rights for 365 days. If the player does not sign
by the next year's draft, he is eligible to be drafted again, anad the
team that drafted him originally gets nothing.
NAZZ
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| 14.682 | | SOLANA::MAY_BR | TFO has been TFSO'd | Fri Mar 25 1994 16:07 | 7 |
|
So what will see is a lot of conversations between teams and potential
draft choices from the day of the lottery up until draft day. Should
be good news for teams like LA and Boston, and bad news for teams like
Minnesota and Sacremnto.
brews
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| 14.683 | | MKFSA::LONG | That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! | Fri Mar 25 1994 16:49 | 12 |
| Watching the games last night I was quite impressed with the play of
Frazier from Purdue (I think it was Purdue). Any how he had a clear
breakaway. But instead of the showboat-in-yo-face slam, followed by
the take-that-sucker stare, he simple executed a perfect layup and
then got back on defense.
This is something we see less and less of, especially come tournament
time. This guy will obviously have to hire an acting teacher before
he can play in the WWF-style NBA though.
billl
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| 14.684 | | DOCTP::TESSIER | | Fri Mar 25 1994 16:56 | 25 |
| Re.
> With the 26 combos (how do they determine how many each spot gets-- does
> it go strictly by rank, or does the W-L record come into play too?),
The number of combos that a team gets is determined by where they rank
among the 11 lottery teams in record. The team with the worst record gets
250 combinations, the team with the best record gets 5, etc. It's a fixed
number.
Re.
> The NBA team that draft an underclassman who decides to go back to
> school only holds his rights for 365 days. If the player does not sign
> by the next year's draft, he is eligible to be drafted again, anad the
> team that drafted him originally gets nothing.
Nazz, are you absolutely sure about this? That was not my understanding.
My understanding is that after the NCAA announced their rule change, the
NBA's response was to adopt a rule saying that the team that drafts a player
retains his rights for a year after the player's projected graduation date.
That way, it protects, shall we say, less desirable franchises such as Dallas
and Minnesota from continually getting screwed out of acquiring a star player.
Ken
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| 14.685 | whadda stud! | FRETZ::HEISER | Shoveling that sunshine | Fri Mar 25 1994 17:42 | 1 |
| I luv'd Big Dog's 2-handed stuff over the KU center.
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| 14.686 | Views and news | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 25 1994 18:03 | 13 |
| I think Frazier plays for Mizzou. Booker has some kind of range. Crudup
should have an NBA career. I normally stay up and watch the late game
but Arizona looked in control and I wound up not missing much.
Doesn't it always happen that way? I've suffered predicting Arizona and
Missouri to do well in several past tourneys. This year I pick em to go
out in round 2 and they finally play to potential. Reeves should make
the difference as Arizona beats Missouri. I had Lousiville beating
Cincinnati.
As great as Robinson is,Cuonzo Martin made the key baskets down the
stretch. I don't think Duke has enough defensive answers for Purdue.
I had Kentucky beating Purdue.
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| 14.687 | Me Too | STRATA::BARBIERI | God can be so appreciated! | Fri Mar 25 1994 18:33 | 16 |
| re -1
Wouldn't you know it, but I did the same. I figured Arizona will
go out. Missouri will go out. So I pick Louisville. I figured
Purdue will probably go out too, so I pick Kentucky (after having
a hard time between them and Duke). In one pool, I had NC over
UMass (hahahahaha).
In the other, I have UConn over Arkansas, but that's the one where
I did the above.
The best correlation I have found is that in most years, two teams
I pick to make the final four are sure to fold their tent by the
second round!!!
Tony
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| 14.688 | I think it's for the Final 4 | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Fri Mar 25 1994 18:45 | 21 |
|
Yabbut even though this is primarily a manly kind of conference ;^)
I thought it should be mentioned that in the Wimmins NCAA tournament,
the defending champs, Tennesee, losted last night
BUT
The big news is that the Lady Tar Hells from UNC play the Lady Huskies
from UConn thisted weekend!!!!!!
B-E vs. ACC!!!!!!
C'mon B-E, keep the streak alive!!!!!!!!!!
I remain,
wondering how ACC_Chris would comment?
Kev
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| 14.689 | You impress to easy, billl | ROCK::MURPHY | I love Big East Basketball | Fri Mar 25 1994 18:59 | 27 |
| It was Cuonzo Martin from Purdue. He doesn't dunk, because his knees
are very bad. If he coulda, he woulda - he was a major dunker for East
St. Louis in High School.
Murph
<<< Note 14.683 by MKFSA::LONG "That's my story
and I'm stickin' to it!" >>>
Watching the games last night I was quite impressed with the
play of
Frazier from Purdue (I think it was Purdue). Any how he had a
clear
breakaway. But instead of the showboat-in-yo-face slam,
followed by
the take-that-sucker stare, he simple executed a perfect layup
and
then got back on defense.
This is something we see less and less of, especially come
tournament
time. This guy will obviously have to hire an acting teacher
before
he can play in the WWF-style NBA though.
billl
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| 14.690 | Yawwwwn | MKFSA::LONG | That's my story and I'm stickin' to it! | Fri Mar 25 1994 19:39 | 6 |
| It was definitly Frazier, so I guess it was the Missouri game.
I stayed up too late watching the games so the teams seemed to
blend together, but I'm certain of the player's name.
billl
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| 14.691 | Rozier needs some work | BSS::MENDEZ | | Fri Mar 25 1994 20:53 | 13 |
| I saw the second half of the louisville vs arizona game and have
come to a conclusion that Rozier is overratted. He wouldn't hustle.
he wouldn't box out for rebounds, and he has very little moves down
in the blocks. Arizona did play well but I don't think they have
enough beef for Missouri. Rozier just lost touch with the flow of
the game and if it wasn't for Morton, Louisville would have lost by
20+.
Frank Mendez
p.s. I also have Louisville in the final four and hopefully winning
it all. What can I say...I am a fan of Denny Crum.
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| 14.692 | he jiggles, I mean dribbles down court | GENRAL::WADE | So, what's on your alleged mind? | Mon Mar 28 1994 13:58 | 8 |
|
I have a question for Tommy and glenn. Would Dametri Hall,
big fat forward/center for the U. of Florida, be a first
basemen in baseball? Is he considered a real athlete since
he plays basketball versus baseball? :*)
Claybone
|
| 14.693 | on paper anyhow...... | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Mon Mar 28 1994 16:50 | 10 |
|
Yabbut, fwiw, Purdue's Glen Robinson was named the #1 college
basketball player yesterday, winning the <sponsor's name?> Naismeth
Award.
I remain,
also suprised they're in the Final 4 - didn't think they were that good
Kev
|
| 14.694 | | DYPSS1::ROPER | Take a Sad Song and Make it Better | Mon Mar 28 1994 16:56 | 8 |
| Kev, you shouldn't be so suprised. They're NOT in the Final 4!!!
Arkansas
Arizona
Florida
Duke
- Rope
|
| 14.695 | Dog returning | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Mon Mar 28 1994 17:09 | 1 |
| Robinson says he is coming back. Believe it when I see it.
|
| 14.696 | A 'Southern' Final Four | STRATA::BARBIERI | God can be so appreciated! | Mon Mar 28 1994 17:38 | 6 |
| Well, the final four teams are a big score for the south. What's
the northernmost team, Arkansas or Duke? That's pretty far south
for the northernmost team. I'll bet this is the southernmost
final 4 ever. Average latitude is probably something like Georgia!
|
| 14.697 | | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Mon Mar 28 1994 18:29 | 11 |
|
Yabbut I knew that. I was just checking ;^)
btw - unfortunatley for the UConn wimmins basketball team, they losted
to the UNC Lady Tar Heels in the NCAA tourney Saturday.
I remain,
the only one who cares about the wimmin enough to tell ya
Kev
|
| 14.698 | | HANNAH::ASHE | like sands thru the hourglass, so were the days of his lives | Mon Mar 28 1994 20:18 | 2 |
| Juwann Howard sez he's coming back too..
|
| 14.699 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Dean's gone fishin' | Tue Mar 29 1994 12:17 | 6 |
|
I hope so. I love Howard's game and I harldy watch the pros any more so
I'd miss him if he moved on. Also I think next year he has a better chance
of being drafted in the top three than this year........
mike
|
| 14.700 | Howard is a stud | BSS::MENDEZ | | Tue Mar 29 1994 15:32 | 6 |
| Gotta agree with ya Mike... I think in the tournament he proved to be
the best big man out there. He has unbelievable touch and plays pretty
decent defense. I just wish Jalen would show up for big games.
Frank mendez
|
| 14.701 | | DUGROS::ROSS | March Madness is covered by HMO | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:25 | 15 |
| Yinka Dare has decided to go pro... I wonder if he'll go ahead of Montross.
I think the NBA scouts look at Dare and say "What if turns out to be another
Hakeem?" and they look at Montross and say "What if he turns out to be
another Greg Kite?" Two different types of risk.
I'm amazed (and thrilled) that Robinson has decided to stay at Purdue. That
will make them a potential #1 preseason pick, since the entire starting five
will be back along with a couple key subs. I would hope it would have a
positive effect on recruiting as well. I believe Arkansas has pretty much
everyone back as well, so they'll probably be #1 going into next year.
Getting back to Robinson, I hope the NCAA has some sort of rules set up to
borrow money to purchase insurance in case of injury.
|
| 14.702 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Dean's gone fishin' | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:26 | 11 |
|
So I get home yesterday and do a little channel surfing and lo and behold
on ESPN2 they're showing one of those NCAA title game revisted shows. Just
so happens to be the 1977 finals. Dean against Al Maguire. At the half
Marquette's up by 12, 37-25. In no time flat UNC has tied the game up.
At 45-45 Dean decides to coach and goes 4 corners. Results Marquette 67-59.
Was great to relive the Snazzole blowing another one with superior talent.
haha
mike
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| 14.703 | Take the money and run | CSOA1::SIMPSON_T | run-by fruiting | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:37 | 16 |
|
IMO, Robinson is risking a big mistake if he stays in college
another year. His value in the pros will never be higher than
it is now, and if he has a bad year next year for any of a number
of reasons, his value could seriously plummet. And he certainly
doesn't need another year with the Boilermakers to refine his game.
He'd be much better off going for the tens of millions of dollars
now, and if he wants a college degree so he can say he has one he
can get it during the off-season, or finish it when his career is
over.
tom
Also, the Hoosiers wouldn't have to play him again. :^)
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| 14.704 | insulting | HBAHBA::HAAS | The karma ran over my dogma | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:42 | 9 |
| Greg Kite? Whatta a_insult to be compared to Eric Montross.
I think Dare is making a mistake but will probably develop in the pros.
He's one of those guys who hasn't played that long and needs how we say
some work. Can you spell "project".
Montross should cut his losses, host MTV segments and go to law school.
TTom
|
| 14.705 | brrr! | FRETZ::HEISER | Shoveling that sunshine | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:43 | 1 |
| What if Dare is another Jerrod Mustaf?
|
| 14.706 | | DOCTP::TESSIER | | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:52 | 13 |
| Robinson has not decided to return for his senior year. He was just
getting tired of reporters asking him if he was going to enter the
draft, so he said, "Until I call a press conference, I'm staying in
school." He later said that he would make a decision some time in
May. I still think he'll enter the draft. It's tough to give up
the money that goes with being the sure number one pick. What's he
got to gain by staying another year? He can't move up any higher in
the draft. However, he could lose out on millions by staying if:
a.) he gets injured; or b.) the NBA adopts a rookie salary cap this
summer, which is a distinct possibility since the collective bargaining
agreement is up.
Ken
|
| 14.707 | those hazy,crazy days of '77 | AKOCOA::BREEN | Till Time Shall be no More | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:54 | 13 |
| Who was that guard (point) on Marquette. Was his name Boyle. The kid
had played a season of div 2 at Assumption and then transferred to
Marquette and imho had a tremendous tourney (I would have given him
mvp).
The game to watch from '77 would still be NC Charlotte and Cornbread
Maxwell vs Marquette - overtime or 2pts.
In other semi nc went to 4corners vs vegas, lost lead but prevailed.
But this is from (hazy) memory
bsmap
|
| 14.708 | Ah Digger, you bl#w | CTHQ::LEARY | It'sBeenALongTimeComing... | Tue Mar 29 1994 17:59 | 6 |
| I know somebody beat Notre Dame that year cuz they was supposed
to be a contendah.. Anyone recall? I think Duke sandblasted the
Irish in 78 (anudder upset) but was it Michigan or UNC??
MikeL
|
| 14.709 | Laimbeer, the Digger and Tripuck(a) | AKOCOA::BREEN | Till Time Shall be no More | Tue Mar 29 1994 18:26 | 8 |
| It was NC. A very memorable game, two strong teams. I watched it
surrounded by a heavy anti-notredame crew who had learned to hate Kelly
and Bill before they even hit the nba.
Now the details of the game... Not a one but I could place a call.
That Tripucka era seemed to last a lifetime since he was a factor as a
frosh (and probably was his peak as a player).
|
| 14.710 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Tue Mar 29 1994 18:28 | 6 |
| >> Who was that guard (point) on Marquette. Was his name Boyle. The kid
>> had played a season of div 2 at Assumption and then transferred to
>> Marquette and imho had a tremendous tourney (I would have given him
>> mvp).
I think you mean Jim Boylan.
|
| 14.711 | Marquette | STRATA::BARBIERI | God can be so appreciated! | Tue Mar 29 1994 18:30 | 12 |
| Having grown up in Milwaukee, the Marquette '77 season was
beautiful. One thing perhaps a lot of people forget is that
Al McGuire announced before the start of the season that it
would be his last year and he had yet to win it all. Sure
enough, he wins it all his last year.
By the way, Marquette had other years where they could have
dominated, but they kept losing players to hardship. One year
they could have had something like Jim Chones/Maurice Lucas/
Larry McNeil (all eventual NBA players) on the same team, but
hardship broke it up. They churned out some good college players
for a while there.
|
| 14.712 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | Till Time Shall be no More | Tue Mar 29 1994 18:40 | 9 |
| thanks Tommy, Jim Boylan it was. I thought he was tremendous and the
very heart and soul of that team. Not all agreed at the time.
Stats didn't reflect it but he seemed to make all the plays and passes
that had to be made.
Maybe old Al would agree with me, I still enjoy him when he does color.
That was him last week on a game or two. (or is that "august" really
"late fall")
|
| 14.713 | Uncle Al | CTHQ::LEARY | It'sBeenALongTimeComing... | Tue Mar 29 1994 19:05 | 27 |
| I remember weird old Al from me South Bend days. I thought he
was great. He was a hoot that's for sure, and he could coach.
Al had that disheveled look, like he was just off a two-week bender.
My junior year (73-74), we had seats right near the visitors' bench.
ND had a powerhouse that year and had just beaten UCLA at home
(snapped the 88 game winning streak. Marquette came in one week later
and they were ranked in the top ten as well. I think the Warriors
had Marques Washington and Lucas on that team. Before the game, some
wise-arse Marquette students had ran on the gym floor with a mini-
Conestoga wagon carrying a sign "Oklahoma- Boomer Sooner #1 1973",
(Ah think they got mugged by some ND yahoos, that being ND's 73
football champeenship). Anyway, by the second half, Al's suit was
half off and his hair looked all askew as he was pacing up and
down the sideline. One of my buds kept getting up and offering Al
his chair while shouting to Al "Sit down Harpo!". Al was cool, he'd
look over, smile, and give my friend the finger.. ND ended up beating
Marquette by 5 or 6 that game (that was the year Michigan upset
ND in the NCAA's and Marquette lost to NC St in the finals) but the
rivalry was always great. After one game at the coach's conference,
Al was being hooted, good-naturedly, by some ND students and he turned
to the students and said "Be quiet boys or I'll go back to Marquette
and start a football program." Yassir he was a hoot.
MikeL
|
| 14.714 | Memories | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Mar 29 1994 19:19 | 17 |
| I covered the 1977 UNC-ND for the University of Maryland newspaper(the
regionals were at Cole Fieldhouse). Kelly Tripucka was not on that
Notre Dame team. He was a senior at Bloomfield(NJ) high school.
That Notre Dame team featured Donald (Duck) Williams in the backcourt
with a big frontline of Bruce Flowers,Bill Paterno and Dave Batton. I
think Bill Hanzlik was on that team,too,but I'm not sure. Also Rich
Branning might have been a backcourt player. UNC featured Phil Ford who
almost singlehandedly won the game. Starting center Tom LaGarde was
injured so Dean went to his three header center combo called
Yonawolfscin named for Rich Yonaker,Jeff Wolf and Steve Krafcisin.
They beat a great Kentucky team(national champs the following year)
which featured Rick Robey,James Lee and Jack (Goose) Givens in the
Eastern regional finals. Trivia question-who was the long range gunner
on the UK team? He had a great frehsman year,but never regained his
shooting touch and hardly played his last three years.
|
| 14.715 | sounds kinda like Doug Moe | FRETZ::HEISER | Shoveling that sunshine | Tue Mar 29 1994 19:19 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.716 | Marquette dynasty | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Mar 29 1994 19:22 | 8 |
| Marquette's 1977 championship team was a great example of a coach
winning with what was far from his best unit. McGuire had a dynasty of
great teams in the early 70's starting with the NIT championship team
in 1970 when he spurned the NCAA and made them change the rules sbout
rejecting an NCAA bid.
George Thompson,Dean Meminger,Jim Chones,Larry McNeil,Bo Ellis,Butch
Lee-and who can forget Allie McGuire?
|
| 14.717 | | CTHQ::LEARY | It'sBeenALongTimeComing... | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:04 | 10 |
| Ouch!
Painful underachieving memories....Yup, Batton, Flowers,Paterno,
Williams,Branning,Hanzlik followed Shumate, Dantley, Brokaw. Latah came
Tripucka,Jackson, Woolridge, Laimbeer, Rivers, etcetera, etcetera.
Puhleeze I still have images of Campy Russell, Phil Ford, Gene Banks,
Danny Ainge dancing in mah haid......
MikeL
|
| 14.718 | | DYPSS1::ROPER | Take a Sad Song and Make it Better | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:13 | 15 |
| re .714
>> Who was the long range gunner on the UK team
That would be none other than Jay "White Lightning" Shidler out of
Illinois. Jay had an outstanding freshman season (1976-77). He
started 28 of 30 games for Kentucky. The next season, Shidler broke
his foot at the start of the year and missed athe first 5 weeks of the
season. Truman Claytor stepped forward and took over the 2-guard spot.
Kyle Macy who was a Purdue transfer played the point and led Kentucky
to its 5th National Title. Shidler never regained his freshman form.
His Senior year he didn't see much action with the remarkable freshman
Dwight Anderson joining the squad.
- Rope
|
| 14.719 | Just the facts | AKOCOA::BREEN | Till Time Shall be no More | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:21 | 6 |
| It is my recollection that Kentucky won its ncaa championship the year
after winning the nit with Robey and another wide body on one of both
teams.
Dave is confusing the hell out me and mikel with damn facts but I main
enough to stand another shower of fact
|
| 14.720 | | DYPSS1::ROPER | Take a Sad Song and Make it Better | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:27 | 16 |
| Okie Dokie, here's some more showers! Kentucky had the following 4
year run with 4 outstanding players. They were led by:
6'10 Rick Robey
6'10 Mike Phillips
6'7 Jack Givens
6'7 James Lee
Their tourney results were:
1974-1975 - NCAA runner-up to UCLA
1975-1976 - NIT Champs over UNCC
1976-1977 - Losers in 3rd game of NCAA's to UNC 79-72
1977-1978 - NCAA Champions - 94-88 over Duke
- Rope
|
| 14.721 | More memories | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:38 | 13 |
| Until Duke-Uk(1992) the most exciting regional final I remeber seeing
was Indiana-UK(1975).Indiana was #1 and unbeaten and UK had a great
team led by Kevin Grevey and Jimmy Dan Conner along with all those
great freshmen. It was a senior/freshman team.
Indiana was missing Scott May. I was dying to see my college(U of
Maryland) play in the midwest final against Louisville,but the game was
only regionally televised and I was home for spring break.
Re: Shidler-He bleached his hair with peroxide in his freshman.Boy was
he arrogant. I remember trying to interview him. Joe Hall was really on
the hot seat during that three year period,but shut everyone up in
1978.
|
| 14.722 | (If '73 then 2nd mr w = Wicks; if '74 then Bill W. | AKOCOA::BREEN | Till Time Shall be no More | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:47 | 5 |
| Do you recall Jerry Tarkanian's Long Beach team vs BYU in '73 or '74
going 3 ot's? Had a little bet there with a spread differential.
Tark pulled it out including the points in the 3rd ot to become fodder
for Mr W. and Mr W.
|
| 14.723 | Tark | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Tue Mar 29 1994 20:52 | 6 |
| Wicks' senior year was 1971. That LBST team ,led by Ed Ratleff was
expected by mnay to beat UCLA. They were the first major threat out
west in a bunch of years,but UCLA held them off in a close final.
the Walton gang(72-74) had mostly blowouts in the West regionals.
I don't rember the BYU-LBST game.
|
| 14.724 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | Till Time Shall be no More | Tue Mar 29 1994 21:11 | 3 |
| Along with Ratleff was a young player later picked up by the celtics.
I can't recall his name except that he was instrumental in the Celtics
success in the third overtime against the Suns in '76.
|
| 14.725 | MacDonald | CNTROL::KING | | Tue Mar 29 1994 21:15 | 1 |
| Glenn MacDonald - LBST 74'
|
| 14.726 | Clarification on Undergrads in This Year's Draft | DOCTP::TESSIER | | Tue Mar 29 1994 23:13 | 11 |
| From today's Boston Globe, Peter May writes:
"Proposal 120 works as follows: Any underclassman can declare
himself eligible for the June 29 NBA draft but must do so by
May 15. The player will have 30 days from the date of the draft
to decide to turn pro or return to college. The team that drafted
him retains his rights until one year after the player's class
graduates although that, too, could be changed in a new bargaining
agreement."
Ken
|
| 14.727 | More ND | OPTION::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Wed Mar 30 1994 13:59 | 10 |
| Re: 714-Notre Dame 1977
Some other players-how quickly I forgot:
Toby Knight 6'9 forward/center who player for the Knicks.Ray Martin a
quick little guard and of course Laimbeer was on that team.
BTW,the HS class of California had three great big men,all of whom had
lengthy NBA careers; Laimbeer,David Greenwood(UCLA) and Bill Cartwright
(USF).
|
| 14.728 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Wed Mar 30 1994 14:56 | 2 |
| Ahhh, '78... The year I got my picture in Sports Illustrated. APR16
Word from the Bird...
|
| 14.729 | 1995 NCAA tickets for Providence | RCWOOD::AREANO | There's more than one answer | Tue Apr 05 1994 11:20 | 12 |
| Has anyone heard anything regading next year's NCAA tourney stop at
Providence?
I thought I heard on the radio (but nothing to confirm this yet) that
Providence is a sight for 1st and 2nd round games in 1994 (similar to what
the Centrum in Worcester MA had 2 years ago).
Can anyone confirm or deny this? If its true, any idea when/where tickets can
be purchased?
Thanks,
Paul
|
| 14.730 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | breakin' rocks, in the hot sun | Tue Apr 05 1994 12:58 | 8 |
|
If it's true Paul, best bet is to find either an alumni or student of
Providence to purchase tickets for you. It was at Providence in 89 or
90 (when Princeton almost upset Georgetown) and we got tickets through
a student at the college and they went on sale rather late if I recall
like in february.......
mike
|
| 14.731 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983 | Tue Apr 05 1994 13:28 | 13 |
|
> Has anyone heard anything regading next year's NCAA tourney stop at
> Providence?
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Deny.
Albany, NY and Baltimore, MD are the 1st round Eastern sites next year.
Providence is the year after that.
- Sean
|
| 14.732 | thanks | ONE800::AREANO | | Tue Apr 05 1994 13:50 | 11 |
| > Albany, NY and Baltimore, MD are the 1st round Eastern sites next year.
>
> Providence is the year after that.
Thanks, Sean!
I wonder how I can find out if tickets are available for either Albany or
Baltimore - or when/how tickets will be for sale for Providence...
Thanks,
Paul
|
| 14.733 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Tue Apr 05 1994 17:05 | 6 |
| Sean,
How do you know Prov. is the year after next? I thought they
only announced 1/2 round games after the tourney final for the
following year only.....
Jimbo
|
| 14.734 | good for giggles | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Tue Apr 05 1994 18:37 | 17 |
|
Yabbut speaking of the tourney, did anybody else catch the Dook
sign at the semi's that said:
KrushelWooskey's Limo's
Dial 1-800-Yes-I yam
major rollward!
I remain,
thinking it will become the "Phrase of '94"
Kev
|
| 14.735 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Apr 05 1994 19:22 | 1 |
| I guess you had to be there.
|
| 14.736 | | CAMONE::WAY | It looks good in threes.... | Tue Apr 05 1994 20:42 | 10 |
| Did anyone catch the little clip of someone from CBS interviewing
Coach K, and I think the color guy was Billy Packer.
Coach K said something funny, and Packer says to him, "Get outta
here, Galackazwiecz" I was rolling.....
Gal-ee-week-itch, it's Gal-ee-week-itch....8^)
'sAW
|
| 14.737 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Wed Apr 06 1994 16:23 | 5 |
| did the guy - I guess Gilette ran the contest - make the 3 point
shot for $1 million??
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.739 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983 | Wed Apr 06 1994 19:46 | 11 |
|
> Sean,
> How do you know Prov. is the year after next? I thought they
> only announced 1/2 round games after the tourney final for the
> following year only.....
The programs I get at the first round games every year always have
a page giving the sites for the 1st round, regionals, and F4 for the next
2 years.
- Sean
|
| 14.740 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Burn the Tiger road pajamas! | Mon Apr 11 1994 20:09 | 5 |
| Tix aren't available in Albany...
NCAA hockey finals are in Providence next year. I would think you
wouldn't put both events in the same place the same year.
|
| 14.741 | Desert Classic rosters | FRETZ::HEISER | no D in Phoenix | Thu Apr 21 1994 17:48 | 31 |
| Atlantic Central
--------- -------
Jim McIlvaine, Marquette Kevin Rankin, Northwestern
Bill Curley, BC Deon Thomas, Illinois
Dickey Simpkins, Prov Antonio Lang, Duke
Jeff Webster, OK Shawnelle Scott, St. Johns
Steve Woodberry, KU Wesley Person, Auburn
Greg Minor, Louisville Billy McCaffrey, Vandy
Charlie Ward, FSU Gaylon Nickerson, NW OK St.
Askia Jones, KSU Stevin Smith, ASU
Howard Eisley, BC Kenny Harris, VA Comm
Derrick Phelps, UNC Adrian Autry, Syracuse
Pacific Midwest
------- -------
Kevin Salvadori, UNC Carlos Rogers, TSU
Brain Grant, Xavier Lawrence Funderburke, OSU
Michael Smith, Providence Eric Mobley, Pitt
Monty Williams, ND Arturas Karnishovas, SH
Kendrick Warren, VA Comm Tony Dumas, Missouri-KC
Dwayne Fontana, ASU Shon Tarver, UCLA
Khalid Reeves, UA Brooks Thompson, OK St.
Damon Bailey, Indiana BJ Tyler, Texas
Melvin Booker, Missouri Travis Ford, Kentucky
Anthony Goldwire, Houston Eric Piaktowski, Nebraska
Coaches of these squads include: K.C. Jones, Bob Bass, Al Bianchi, and
Cotton Fitzsimmons (there are a couple more that I forgot). Martly
Blake is always at these too. Lots of NBA notables in attendance though.
Don Nelson was here. George Karl checked out the crop before getting his
clock cleaned by the Suns. Of course, Paul Westphal too.
|
| 14.742 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Brillant, Charming and Nasty | Thu Apr 21 1994 18:33 | 7 |
|
with Lottery pick Kevin Salvidori manning the post the Pacific looks the
strongest to me.....
seriously though with Smith, Williams, Reeves, Booker etc...
mike
|
| 14.743 | raising his stock | FRETZ::HEISER | no D in Phoenix | Thu Apr 21 1994 18:36 | 1 |
| Reports say that Eric Piaktowski has been one of the surprises thus far.
|
| 14.744 | Curious | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Twins ERA=Enormous Runs Allowed | Fri Apr 22 1994 12:29 | 5 |
| What's the difference between these teams and the "Junior" National
team Clem Haskins was selected to coach?
Spud
|
| 14.745 | college seniors | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Fri Apr 22 1994 15:19 | 1 |
| These are pickup teams for an nba scouting combine party.
|
| 14.746 | what about charlie ? | WMOIS::BALL_K | | Tue Apr 26 1994 16:08 | 7 |
| I had heard that Heisman trophy winner Charlie Ward went undrafted in
the NFL draft the other day (presumably because he had decided on
basketball). Is this true ? and...
Where do folks think he'll go in the NBA draft ? (I'm thinking early 2nd
round) .
KB
|
| 14.747 | Supposedly.... | SALEM::DODA | Kurt Cobain: Plugged | Tue Apr 26 1994 16:11 | 1 |
| Vikings offered him a contract.
|
| 14.748 | no ward; no Indy QB | HBAHBA::HAAS | Maybe too much Goody's Powder | Tue Apr 26 1994 16:23 | 8 |
| Ward was not drafted. The consensus was that by not committing to
football, the teams were unwilling to waste a pick on him.
And since the draft is complete, it should be noted the Colts who were
criticized for not taking Dilfer did not draft a QB. Double secret plan
or Jim Harbaugh: you make the choice.
TTom
|
| 14.749 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Tue Apr 26 1994 16:37 | 5 |
| Ward was the first Heisman trophy wonner in 35 years to not be drafted.
Last one was Pete Dawkins of Army.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.750 | Did Pitino go? | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Tue Apr 26 1994 20:37 | 12 |
|
Yabbut what's the story with Pitino and da Lakers? Rumor is
he's signing a $21 MILLION dollar contract to coach them. UK
was supposed to have a press conference today.
Anybody know?
I remain,
thinking I might call Rope at his new job
Kev
|
| 14.751 | he's staying; see 84.last | HBAHBA::HAAS | Maybe too much Goody's Powder | Tue Apr 26 1994 20:40 | 0 |
| 14.752 | Desert Classic All-Tourney team | FRETZ::HEISER | no D in Phoenix | Tue Apr 26 1994 21:02 | 6 |
| Khalid Reeves, UA
Eric Mobley, Pitt
Eric Piaktowski, Nebraska
Dickey Simpkins, Providence
Greg Minor, Louisville
Brian Grant, Xavier
|
| 14.753 | | AGNT99::CHILDS | Brillant, Charming and Nasty | Tue Apr 26 1994 21:03 | 4 |
|
which team won the tourney?
mike
|
| 14.754 | more info | FRETZ::HEISER | no D in Phoenix | Tue Apr 26 1994 21:07 | 5 |
| I'm not sure, Mike. Piaktowski won MVP of the tourney. Khalid Reeves
raised his stock during March Madness, and after his performance here,
is being projected as a possible lottery pick.
Mike
|
| 14.755 | Marshall enters draft | FRETZ::HEISER | no D in Phoenix | Tue Apr 26 1994 21:10 | 3 |
| BTW - Donyell Marshall has just declared for the draft.
Mike
|
| 14.756 | | CAMONE::WAY | Snake and Nape | Tue Apr 26 1994 21:11 | 12 |
| >
> BTW - Donyell Marshall has just declared for the draft.
>
How much does that suck.
We've known he would probably since late last week.....
Oh well. There goes nexted season.
'Saw
|
| 14.757 | | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Wed Apr 27 1994 12:45 | 13 |
|
re: "there goeas next season"
Yabbut, hahahahaha, not for Phil and I!!!!!!!
;^)
I remain,
yumpin yimminy!
Kev
|
| 14.758 | Big Dawg wants a BIG bone! | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Tue May 03 1994 13:44 | 12 |
|
Yabbut I heard on the radion lasted night that Purdues's Glen
Robinson, aka "Big Dawg", the 1994 NCAA scoring champ has declaired
himself eligible for the NBA draft.
Speculation is he'll go #1 and look for a $100M contract!
I remain,
yer occasional Sprots reporter!
Kev
|
| 14.759 | PC hits College hoops | HBAHBA::HAAS | Maybe too much Goody's Powder | Tue May 03 1994 21:06 | 75 |
| Article: 4938
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (AP)
Newsgroups: clari.local.wisconsin,clari.news.ethnicity,clari.news.group,clari.news.education.higher,clari.tw.education,clari.sports.football.college,clari.sports.basketball.college
Subject: Marquette Is Now Golden Eagles
Date: Mon, 2 May 94 15:30:15 PDT
MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The Marquette Warriors became the Marquette
Golden Eagles on Monday to both cheers and jeers from students who
voted on the change.
The move came after the school's old nickname was deemed
offensive to American Indians. The only other other choice was the
Marquette Lightning, chosen from among 1,500 nominations.
``I'm a senior so I'm graduating a Warrior and I couldn't be
happier about it,'' said Sean Murphy, a senior from South Bend,
Ind. ``I'm going to go down to the Golden Eagle shop and try to get
one of the last few Warrior T-shirts.''
The new nickname was announced at a news conference outside the
Alumni Memorial Union by the Rev. Albert DiUlio, president of the
Roman Catholic university.
The name change was required by administrators who wanted to
avoid offending American Indians. A committee studied the potential
name change for 18 months.
``Out of the two names I liked Golden Eagles better,'' said John
Kuras, a junior from Detroit. ``I was upset that it all arose. I
think the real discrepancy was in the logo.''
Golden Eagles won 54 percent support from the 2,501 students and
faculty who voted Friday and alumni across the country randomly
surveyed by phone.
``I'm very happy with it,'' said DiUlio, who voted for the
Lightning. ``I think it will allow us to go back to a favorable
mascot.''
Some Marquette students angry about the nickname change have
blamed American Indian students, said Jeff Peterson, an American
Indian counselor.
Gabrielle Grant, president of the American Indian Student
Association, said she wasn't surprised some non-Indian students
couldn't understand why the Warriors nickname was offensive.
``I'd say that they could never know because they're not
American Indian and I'm sure there are lots of things about their
cultures that I wouldn't find offensive but they would,'' said
Grant, adding that as a matter of principle she hadn't bought
Warriors apparel in her four years at Marquette.
``I'm glad they changed it,'' she said. ``I'm really impressed
with Marquette taking the initiative.''
Athletic director Bill Cords announced last October that
Marquette would changed its nickname, saying the school wanted one
that reflected respect for ethnic heritage.
Northeastern Illinois, Tennessee Tech and Southern Mississippi
are among at least 11 NCAA-affiliated schools nicknamed Golden
Eagles.
Warriors replaced Hilltoppers as Marquette's nickname in 1954 on
the recommendation of a student committee that felt the name
reflected American Indians' close relationship with the Jesuits in
settlement days.
From 1964-71, the school used a ``Willie Wampum'' cartoon
caricature of an Indian warrior before that mascot was dropped as
offensive. The school logo in recent years has been a silhouette
drawing of an Indian warrior.
Indian nicknames have been objects of controversy among high
schools, colleges and professionals.
Wisconsin Superintendent of Public Instruction John T. Benson
last month asked more than 60 districts to drop Indian nicknames
and mascots. The Minnesota and Illinois Boards of Education have
also asked that high schools replace Indian-related names and
logos.
The University of Iowa's athletic board last week voted to ban
mascots depicting American Indians from the school's athletic
events. Juniata College is dropping the Indian as its school mascot
and St. John's is in the process of replacing its Redmen logo.
Stanford University dropped the nickname Indians in 1972 and the
University of Wisconsin-La Crosse, Dartmouth, Eastern Michigan and
Simpson College also have changed their nicknames.
The University of Massachusetts adopted the Minuteman nickname
in 1972 after students voted to abandon the Redmen as insensitive
to Indians.
|
| 14.760 | surprise | FRETZ::HEISER | no D in Phoenix | Tue May 03 1994 21:10 | 2 |
| Local Native Americans called in to talk about this and the majority of
them were *AGAINST* changing these nicknames.
|
| 14.761 | Keep buying those Redmen items...... | POCUS::SALTALAMACCH | | Wed May 04 1994 01:33 | 4 |
| SJU will always be the "REDMEN" to me.
REDMEN Phil
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| 14.762 | unless I don't understand the name | WMOIS::BALL_K | | Wed May 04 1994 12:40 | 7 |
| Actually, I think changing the name Warriors is being ridulously
overly sensitive.
but......
I think the name Redmen (or Redskins, for that matter) is legitimatly
offensive (can you imagine a team named the blackmen, or whitemen).
KB
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| 14.763 | | CAMONE::WAY | Unfiltered Camels and Raw Beef | Wed May 04 1994 12:52 | 15 |
| The thing that I find amusing is that these names have been around
so long that for the most part any intended slur has long since past.
I've never associated Redskins with Indians. I mean, intellectually I
know there is a connection there, but I always think of jokers like
Dexter Manley when I hear Redskins. And somehow I think the names
were originally used because of the power and ferocity of the images
conjured up.
It's too bad these folks can't put their energy into something more
productive towards improving race relations, something that would
accomplish more....
JMHO,
'Saw
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| 14.764 | In this case a sell-out. Boooooooo to Marquette | CTHQ::LEARY | It'sBeenALongTimeComing... | Wed May 04 1994 13:06 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.765 | | CAMONE::WAY | Unfiltered Camels and Raw Beef | Wed May 04 1994 13:14 | 4 |
| I think changing the name Warriors is an insult to anyone who's been a
Warrior and not of Native American descent..... It is a sellout...
|
| 14.766 | FWIW | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed May 04 1994 18:17 | 3 |
| Syracuse University used to be the Braves, but changed to the Orangemen
a long time ago (1960s ?) out of respect for the significant Native
American population in Upstate NY.
|
| 14.767 | | WMOIS::BALL_K | | Wed May 04 1994 18:38 | 1 |
| What is an orangeman ????
|
| 14.768 | | CAMONE::WAY | Un-filtered Camels and Raw Beef | Wed May 04 1994 18:40 | 8 |
| >
> What is an orangeman ????
>
One of those little guys from the movie "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"
'Saw
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| 14.769 | 8^) | CTHQ::LEARY | It'sBeenALongTimeComing... | Wed May 04 1994 18:45 | 5 |
| Joe,
Did anybody from Ian Paisley's church send SU a nastygram??
MikeL
|
| 14.770 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed May 04 1994 18:59 | 4 |
| 14.771 | | CAMONE::WAY | Un-filtered Camels and Raw Beef | Wed May 04 1994 19:07 | 28 |
| > As a children's writer wannabe, you really should bone up on your
> literature. Those guys are Oompa Loompas.
I knew that. In fact, I can even almost remember the song from that
movie.
In my story though, all the Oompa Loompas would have M-16s, and they'd
take over the chocolate factory. Then James and the Midnight Commandos
would come along in his Giant Peach and have a clandestine raid.
The Oompa Loompas would be slaughtered, cut down where they stood
in the withering fire laid down by the Midnight Commandos, while James,
Aunt Sugar and Aunt Spike tend to the few wounded Midnight Commandos.
The aisle of the Factory will run orange with Oompa Loompa blood, and
the Midnight Commandos captain will talk of loving the smell of
milk chocolate in the morning and how it smells like victory....
When the battle is over, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang KABOOM will evac
the wounded, and then Mike Mulligan and his Steamshovel will tear
down the Factory to make room for new condos....
Anyway, that's the way *I'd* write it......
'Saw
|
| 14.772 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed May 04 1994 19:23 | 3 |
| > What is an orangeman ????
I'm not sure of that, but I think one of their colors was orange...
|
| 14.773 | Rock beats paper and oranges | CNTROL::CHILDS | Brillant, Charming and Nasty | Wed May 04 1994 19:40 | 7 |
|
> What is an orangeman ????
something easily squished by a Hoya.........
mike
|
| 14.774 | | CAMONE::WAY | Un-filtered Camels and Raw Beef | Wed May 04 1994 19:41 | 3 |
| > something easily squished by a Hoya.........
Hoya Saxa!
|
| 14.775 | before time began | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Wed May 04 1994 21:26 | 6 |
| It was before the 60s, I'm sure that the team Jim Brown played on
(graduated in '57) was the orangemen.
Trouble is when youze guys think of 'long, long time ago' you say 60s
As if 20s and 50s were the same thing
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| 14.776 | better not eat the blue berrys either! | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Thu May 05 1994 13:04 | 17 |
|
Yabbut MikeYC, rollward dude! Loved it but now I gotta find some
napkins!
AND.....you writer-wannabees and the such, the correct name was "Willie
Wonka and the Chocolate Factory"! Charlie was the kid who had the
golden wrapper that permitted him to take the tour and eventually
inherit the Chockolate Factory!
hth!
I remain,
I ought ta know, I saw the movie ~5 times (enjoyed it each time too!
Kev
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| 14.777 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Mon May 09 1994 13:29 | 10 |
| >I think changing the name Warriors is an insult to anyone who's been a
>Warrior and not of Native American descent..... It is a sellout...
I agree. In many cultures, old and new, Warrior is a title that is
well respected and often seeked and as a percentage basis I'd be
willing to bet that less than 0.1% of the people with or ever having
said title are Native American.
Marc
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| 14.778 | I am the warrior... | HANNAH::ASHE | Home of the driveby noter... | Mon May 09 1994 13:45 | 2 |
| Shooting at the walls of heartache... bang bang... had nothing to
do with a Native American....
|
| 14.779 | Mel Gibson is The Road Golden Eagle | HBAHBA::HAAS | Maybe too much Goody's Powder | Mon May 09 1994 14:49 | 0 |
| 14.780 | | CAMONE::WAY | Un-filtered Camels and Raw Beef | Mon May 09 1994 14:51 | 9 |
| > -< Mel Gibson is The Road Golden Eagle >-
Yes, and there was that films about gangs in the early 80s called
The Golden Eagles......
'Saw
|
| 14.781 | recruiting news | HBAHBA::HAAS | Maybe too much Goody's Powder | Mon May 09 1994 15:46 | 44 |
| Article: 4943
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (AP)
Newsgroups: clari.local.mississippi,clari.sports.basketball.college
Subject: Top HS Hoopster Picls Michigan
Date: Thu, 5 May 94 18:40:15 PDT
CLINTON, Miss. (AP) -- Jerod Ward, the Naismith national high
school basketball player of the year, will attend Michigan, a
decision the standout says he made after a restless night.
The 6-foot-9 Ward, celebrating his 18th birthday Thursday, said
he went to bed earlier that morning going to California, but when
he woke up couldn't get Michigan out of his mind.
``Once I woke up this morning, after about 30 minutes of sleep
and a lot of prayer, the Lord had laid on my heart the place I
needed to be was Michigan,'' said Ward, a McDonald's, Parade
Magazine and USA Today All-American.
Ward, who averaged 29 points, 10.3 rebounds and 3.0 blocked
shots per game as a senior at Clinton High School, also had
Mississippi among his three finalists. He had made an unofficial
visit to Ole Miss last weekend.
Ward said that during the recruiting process he had gotten close
to Ole Miss coach Rob Evans, who is trying to build at a program
that has been to just one NCAA tournament in its history (1981) and
is coming off its first winning season (14-13) in seven years.
But the lure of Michigan, a perennial NCAA tournament
participant, was apparently too much to pass up.
At Michigan, Ward said he feels he'll have ``an excellent chance
of playing for a national championship, and every guy dreams of
being in the Final Four and being able to play for a nationally
ranked team.''
The departures of Juwan Howard and Jalen Rose, who left Michigan
for early entrance into the NBA draft, had no effect on his
decision, Ward said.
Ward said he felt no pressure to stay in the state of
Mississippi, but also said he didn't want the pressure of being the
player that Evans most likely would have built the Ole Miss program
around.
``It would have been a big load I would have had to carry I
would have had to go down there with a lot of pressure put on me,''
Ward said. ``I don't really want to be pressured. I just want to go
out, have fun and play hard.''
Ward had also considered Arkansas, Kentucky, Ohio State,
Oklahoma and UCLA, but announced about two weeks ago that those
schools were no longer on his list.
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| 14.782 | Griffith to stay at Wisconsin? | HBAHBA::HAAS | Maybe too much Goody's Powder | Mon May 16 1994 15:44 | 6 |
| I read a blurb that said Rashard Griffith is not going to go into thised
year's NBA draft but will be returning to Wisconsin.
Any body confirm this?
TTom
|
| 14.783 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | You gotta put down the duckie... | Mon May 16 1994 16:57 | 4 |
| |I read a blurb that said Rashard Griffith is not going to go into thised
|year's NBA draft but will be returning to Wisconsin.
I read it somewhere (USA Today) on Friday...
|
| 14.784 | I wouldn't go even if it was free | CNTROL::CHILDS | She was a TWO-Bagger | Thu Oct 13 1994 13:34 | 6 |
|
geez only 10 bucks tonight to hear Dick Vitale at Assumption College on
Salisbury St in Worcester. 20 bucks gets you into a special VIP reception
after the speech. Wonder if they'd let me bring rotten fruit??????
mike
|
| 14.785 | "Look at me, I'm an idiot" | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Chicago has wimpy winters | Thu Oct 13 1994 13:53 | 8 |
| I know this has happened before, (probably several times) but what kind
of player needs motivation like his coach putting his fist through a
blackboard to win a game? This is beyond me and belongs in the Neanderthal
Age.
Spud
|
| 14.786 | | SCOONE::MCCULLOUGH | Hakuna Matata - means no worries... | Thu Oct 13 1994 13:57 | 10 |
| So how about this Rollie Masimino thang?
Apparently UNLV wants to buy him out of the remainder of his
contract, and replace him with one of Tark's former assistants.
They supposedly met about it for 15 seconds (I wonder who was
looking at the clock), and Rollie walked out, saying he wasn't
interested.
=Bob=
|
| 14.787 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Thu Oct 13 1994 14:10 | 37 |
| RE <<< Note 14.785 by ANGLIN::WIERSBECK "Chicago has wimpy winters" >>>
> I know this has happened before, (probably several times) but what kind
> of player needs motivation like his coach putting his fist through a
> blackboard to win a game? This is beyond me and belongs in the Neanderthal
> Age.
The kind of player for whom it works.
When I was in highschool I was the manager for the basketball team. That is
to say I was that goofy looking kid with the tie that kept score, picked up the
basketballs after warmups, washed the towels, and sent the uniforms off to
summer storage hopefully after the last game.
Anyway, the up side to doing this was that I worked in the coaches room and
got to listen to the Varsity and JV coach talk about their strategy, their
jobs, their women, and what ever.
One thing I'll never forget is our Varsity coach explaining why he yelled at
some of the guys and not at others. He said that he yelled at kids who
responded to yelling and didn't yell at kids who didn't respond.
As an example he pointed to our team captain who was a quiet intellectual type
kid. He said he'd never yell at him because if he did the kid would shrivel up
and be useless for the entire game.
Conversely, we had a power forward who we called "Animal" who was always
getting yelled at. The coach explained that he yelled at Animal because it
worked. And sure enough, the night after that explanation along about mid game
he actually pounded Animal on the head with his fist after which Animal went
out and scored 6 points in less than a minute.
You go with what works. If pounding your fist through the backboard makes
your players respond, you tell the manager to order up a supply of backboards.
If you get no response, you save the skin on your knuckles.
George
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| 14.788 | | FXTROT::ALLEMANG | | Thu Oct 13 1994 14:33 | 2 |
|
Agreed... and most of us pre-'83 ASU alumni miss Frank Kush.
|
| 14.789 | ? | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | Chicago has wimpy winters | Thu Oct 13 1994 14:37 | 12 |
| George,
I don't want to create a rathole and correct me if I'm wrong, but then
you're saying the less intellectual players need to be shown motivation
through brute force (breakage of blackboards, punched in the helmet,
etc) to get them going?
I understand the yelling at some players, but it's the physical
approach taken that baffles me. Still seems rather dark ages to me.
Spud
|
| 14.790 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Oct 13 1994 15:00 | 3 |
| I would've loved to have seen Vitale.
"SERENDIPITY, BABY!"
|
| 14.791 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Thu Oct 13 1994 15:19 | 26 |
| RE <<< Note 14.789 by ANGLIN::WIERSBECK "Chicago has wimpy winters" >>>
> I don't want to create a rathole and correct me if I'm wrong, but then
> you're saying the less intellectual players need to be shown motivation
> through brute force (breakage of blackboards, punched in the helmet,
> etc) to get them going?
I don't think it's just intelligence. It's a combination of things.
The point my coach was making was that he saw each player as an individual
and motivating each individual was a puzzle unto itself. What worked for one
kid wouldn't necessarily work for another.
Now other coaches don't do that. Our big rival had a coach that had one
method, intimidation, and either it worked or you were off the team. During
half times you could hear him screaming from the other locker room down the
hall.
Different coaches have different techniques and different players respond to
techniques. And the bottom line, as always, is that if you win you are right
and if you lose you are wrong.
As long as pounding backboards with your fist results in wins, coaches will
pound backboards.
George
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| 14.792 | He's outta there | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Wed Oct 19 1994 18:38 | 6 |
|
Rollie is out an UNLV. Reported $1.8M to get the hell outta Dodge.
He supposedly wanted around $5M.
Kevin
|
| 14.793 | po' po' Rollie | 57042::francus | There is no joy in Mudville | Wed Oct 19 1994 18:54 | 5 |
|
Rough life.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.794 | | HANNAH::ASHE | and now... the end is near... | Wed Oct 19 1994 18:55 | 2 |
| what was this other contract he signed that caused all the hoopla?
|
| 14.795 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Wed Oct 19 1994 19:33 | 2 |
| Rollie will be replaced by one of the Sonics' assistant coaches.
Seattle is another team in turmoil.
|
| 14.796 | | GRANPA::DFAUST | Bad Things, man... | Thu Oct 20 1994 11:11 | 11 |
| UNLV screwed up big time when they hire Rollie. His style of coaching
is not really compatible with what the folks in Vegas want to see. The
crowd that attends the games and financially support UNLV didn't care
for Rollie's style one bit and pulled out. As far as the other
contract, I really think there's a bit more to that than has been
reported, or maybe than will ever be known.
I really don't think that Rollie will ever coach again.
Dennis Faust
|
| 14.797 | | HANNAH::ASHE | and now... the end is near... | Thu Oct 20 1994 12:48 | 2 |
| Sounds like Grgrurich backed out...
|
| 14.798 | It's almost time... | CSOA1::SIMPSON_T | run-by fruiting | Sun Nov 06 1994 02:12 | 32 |
|
This is from Dickie V.'s pre-season rag. The other's I've seen look
similar --- EVERYBODY picks Arkansas as the team to beat (for obvious reasons).
1. Arkansas
2. UMass
3. Kentucky
4. North Carolina
5. UCLA
6. Virginia
7. Syracuse
8. Arizona
9. Kansas
10. INDIANA
11. Georgetown
12. Maryland
13. Memphis St.
14. Cincinnati
15. Wisconsin
16. Duke
17. Michigan
18. Ga. Tech
19. UConn
20. Florida
21. Wake Forest
22. Ok. State
23. Mich. St.
24. Villanova
25. Purdue
tom
|
| 14.799 | | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Mon Nov 14 1994 18:44 | 7 |
|
George Raveling has resigned as head coach at So. Cal. Had to due to
complications from a car crash earlier. I kinda liked him when he
was the head coach at Iowa.
Kevin
|
| 14.800 | SNARF! | SPIKED::SWEENEY | Tom Sweeney in OGO | Tue Nov 15 1994 10:19 | 2 |
| another Zamboni Snarf!
|
| 14.801 | IT'S HOOPS SEASON | HBAHBA::HAAS | And this am the way it goes. | Wed Nov 16 1994 16:40 | 35 |
| Now that college basketball has actually started, here's the preseason
polls:
CNN/USA Today/Coaches: AP
1. Arkansas 1. Arkansas
2. No Carolina 2. No Carolina
3. Massachusetts 3. Massachusetts
4. Kentucky 4. Kentucky
5. UCLA 5. Arizona
6. Arizona 6. UCLA
7. Indiana 7. Maryland
8. Syracuse 8. Duke
9. Duke 9. Indiana
10. Virginia 10. Florida
11. Cincinnati 11. Kansas
12. Kansas 12. Syracuse
13. Florida 13. Cincinnati
14. Maryland 14. Virginia
15. Georgetown 15. Georgetown
16. Michigan 16. Michigan
17. Wisconsin 17. Wisconsin
18. Connecticut 18. Alabama
19. Alabama 19. Connecticut
20. Michigan St 20. Michigan St
21. Villanova 21. Oklahoma St
22. Georgia Tech 22. Villanova
22. Oklahoma St 23. Georgia Tech
24. Wake Forest 24. Wake Forest
25. Memphis 25. Illinois
On the AP preseason All American team are, in order of votes, Corliss
Williamson, Arkansas; Jeo Smith, Maryland; Michael Finley, Wisconsin;
Damon Stoudamire, Arizona; Shawn Respert, Michagan.
TTom
|
| 14.802 | Dec 10 - Big game | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | One hand clapping | Wed Nov 16 1994 17:02 | 6 |
| Dec 10, U of MD vs U of Mass. Looks like a good game, plus the grudge
factor.
Anybody know who is in the Maui Classic besides da Terps?
UMDan
|
| 14.803 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Wed Nov 16 1994 17:03 | 1 |
| Anyone see a listing of the top 50? I wonder where ASU is ranked.
|
| 14.804 | ASWHO | AD::HEATH | Can the Pats duplilcate it??? | Wed Nov 16 1994 17:06 | 7 |
|
with the Div II schools
HTH
jerry
|
| 14.805 | ~43 | HBAHBA::HAAS | And this am the way it goes. | Wed Nov 16 1994 17:11 | 9 |
| > Anyone see a listing of the top 50? I wonder where ASU is ranked.
They got a few votes in the AP poll. That'd put 'em somewhere in the low
40s.
They dint get any votes in the Coaches' Poll. Were they bad and wrong and
caught for something?
TTom
|
| 14.806 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Wed Nov 16 1994 17:33 | 7 |
| I think people were just unfamiliar with them. I think they'd be a
good darkhorse bet. The past few years they've been very injury
plagued. This is the first year in a while that they had enough bodies
in camp that players were competing for spots. They definitely have
the talent, and it isn't unreasonable, to expect a 20-win season.
Mike
|
| 14.808 | we're working on it | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Wed Nov 16 1994 18:28 | 1 |
| step by step...
|
| 14.809 | and what happened to Ohio St? | HBAHBA::HAAS | And this am the way it goes. | Thu Nov 17 1994 12:11 | 26 |
| Lasted nights NIT results:
In the biggest shock of the opening round, George Washington upset host
Syracuse, 110-104, in OT. Gee Dub looked the better prepared team from
the onset. The game showed they were much better coached as well.
Syracuse looked like the players lacked even fundemental skills such as
passing, dribbling, defense, etc., and the team seemed to lack an
semblance of a game plan. As it was, Syracuse stood around and watched
the loss.
During the final minute of regulation, a bunch of the not-so-faithful
started to leave. Syracuse hit a couple of three pointers to get back in
the game and then hit a hail mary bank to send it into OT. GW responded
by scoring the firsted 12 points.
Meanwhile, Virginia had to work hard to beat ODU. Cory Alexander showed
that he's back finishing with 29 and leading the Cavs to the second half
effort to win.
In other action, Canisius upset Penn, 81-78; Alabama routed Kansas St,
79-48; Ohio U beat Ohio St 78-67; New Mexico St beat USC (score unknown,
caint remember, et. al.).
So much for the Big East is Back Bandwagon.
TTom
|
| 14.810 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Nov 28 1994 16:47 | 40 |
| USA TODAY-CNN TOP 25 COLLEGE BASKETBALL COACHES POLL The U-S-A
TODAY/C-N-N
Coaches Top 25 college poll, with number of first-place votes and record
in parentheses, total points and last week's ranking:
TEAM PTS PVS
---- --- ---
1. Massachusetts (24) (1-0) 837 3
2. North Carolina (7) (1-0) 802 2
3. Kentucky (1-0) 767 4
4. UCLA (3) (1-0) 729 5
5. Arkansas (1-1) 666 1
6. Duke (2-0) 631 9
7. Kansas (1-0) 567 12
8. Arizona (2-1) 528 6
9. Cincinnati (1-0) 502 11
10. Maryland (2-1) 464 14
11. Minnesota (3-0) 445 --
12. Florida (1-0) 421 13
13. **ARIZONA STATE** (3-0) 393 --
14. Connecticut (1-0) 382 18
15. Ohio (4-0) 349 --
16. Michigan (2-1) 309 16
17. Georgetown (0-1) 279 15
18. Wisconsin (1-0) 257 17
19. Georgia Tech (1-0) 212 22
20. Syracuse (0-1) 209 8
21. Texas (0-1) 179 --
22. Michigan State (0-0) 162 20
23. Indiana (1-2) 143 7
24. Brigham Young (2-1) 124 --
25. New Mexico State (3-1) 100 --
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Alabama 73, Virginia 68, Villanova 63,
Wake Forest 57, Tulane 49, Utah 48, Illinois 39, Purdue 37,
George Washington 29, Iowa State 28, Temple 20, Penn 18,
St. John's 18, Missouri 14, Louisville 12, California 11,
Memphis 10, Oklahoma State 10, Mississippi State 7, Nebraska
6, Saint Louis 5, Texas Tech 4, La Salle 3, Nevada-Las
Vegas 2, Canisius 1, Idaho State 1, Illinois-Chicago 1.
|
| 14.811 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Nov 28 1994 16:48 | 14 |
| Can't believe Maryland is #10 and ASU is #13 after the way we spanked
them!!!
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| 14.812 | Gloat while you can! | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | One hand clapping | Mon Nov 28 1994 17:55 | 6 |
| Still waitin on the drug tests to come back positive for meth on the
ASU players after that game:-). (Psst, Gary Williams, tell the dudes
to get back quicker or every team is gonna run on ya!). Wait til
March.
UMDan
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| 14.813 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Nov 28 1994 18:27 | 3 |
| Gary Williams said after the game that ASU is the quickest team he's
seen in the country, including the team's he saw in last year's NCAA
tourney.
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| 14.814 | UMASS made it worth waiting all summer for the game!! | CNTROL::CHILDS | Theresa's Sound World | Mon Nov 28 1994 18:53 | 12 |
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not to take anything away from ASU cause they're a fine team, I think that
given the format Williams didn't substitute enough during the first two
games and his guys were a little bit gassed. ASU's depth was the difference
imo.
anyways it's great to have college bball back. If Texas had held on it
would have been a great weekend. Despite the Hoyas getting their clocks'
cleaned it was refreshing to see them actual attemp to play 90's style
ball insteads of the 40's............
mike
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| 14.815 | | 57045::FRANCUS | There is no joy in Mudville | Mon Nov 28 1994 20:38 | 5 |
| And when was the last time Georgetown played a real Division I team
before the BE season begins???
The Crazy Met
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| 14.816 | Last Year | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | One hand clapping | Tue Nov 29 1994 12:01 | 4 |
| Last year vs U of MD. MD won. First time in G'Town history they
played a real Division I team before the BE.
UMDan
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| 14.817 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | STEELERSmyALLTIMEfavoriteTEAM | Tue Nov 29 1994 12:12 | 9 |
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How about when they had the BE ACC matchups?? They played Memphis
St last year also?
Anybody got a Hoya Schedule for this year???
Chap
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| 14.818 | WE'RE SWEET 16! | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Dec 05 1994 19:25 | 44 |
| The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with
number of first-place votes, season record, total points and
preseason ranking:
(Through games of December 4th)
TEAM PTS PVS
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1. North Carolina (54) (4-0) 1,633 2
2. UCLA (5) (2-0) 1,501 5
3. Arkansas (3) (3-1) 1,471 4
4. Kansas (3) (2-0) 1,464 7
5. Massachusetts (1-1) 1,378 1
6. Florida (1) (3-0) 1,275 8
7. Kentucky (2-1) 1,266 3
8. Arizona (3-1) 1,130 9
9. Duke (3-1) 1,079 6
10. Connecticut (3-0) 987 16
11. Maryland (4-1) 991 11
12. Minnesota (5-0) 893 15
13. Cincinnati (3-1) 835 10
14. Wisconsin (3-0) 773 13
15. Michigan State (2-0) 684 18
16. Arizona State (4-1) 542 12
17. Georgia Tech (4-0) 511 20
18. Georgetown (2-1) 439 19
19. Syracuse (3-1) 368 22
20. Virginia (3-1) 318 23
21. Ohio (5-2) 282 14
22. New Mexico State (5-1) 268 25
23. Michigan (3-2) 262 17
24. Villanova (3-1) 255 24
25. Wake Forest (2-1) 150 21
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Texas 96, Iowa 87, Illinois 84,
Tulane 71, Mississippi State 66, George Washington 59,
Alabama 53, Oklahoma State 30, St. John's 28, Iowa State
24, Louisiana State 23, Brigham Young 18, California 16,
Texas Tech 9, N.C. Charlotte 7, Utah 7, New Mexico 6,
Western Kentucky 5, Marquette 4, Saint Louis 4, Indiana 3,
Memphis 3, Oklahoma 3, Pennsylvania 3, Missouri 2, Purdue 2,
Hawaii 1, Temple 1.
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| 14.819 | My man | AKOCOA::BREEN | But in the land of the One-eyed Men | Tue Dec 06 1994 21:03 | 1 |
| Is Travis Ford back for Kentuck
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| 14.820 | Or, his eligibility ran out | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | We're #5 Baby; that's not too bad! | Wed Dec 07 1994 13:04 | 3 |
| Ford graduated last season.
NAZZ
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| 14.821 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Theresa's Sound World | Wed Dec 07 1994 17:07 | 12 |
|
Well tonight's game should be a good one and tell me if the guys I think have
the right stuff to be this year's champs have it. I'm talking about the
Florida Gators....
Florida vs. Kansas 9:30 on ESPN.......
my gut feeling on the Final Four is Florida, Arkansas, UMASS and Duke...
I think the first three have the talent and Duke has talent and will get
a favorable draw.........
mike
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| 14.822 | I like Duke, too | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Wed Dec 07 1994 17:32 | 18 |
| I agree, Mike. "Marquis matchup" as someone might shrill.
Haase has certainly looked good for Kansas and Osterag is a tank. The
Gators come with DiMeatHook and LeClercq and most of the rest of the team
that went to the Final 4.
I guess it's a sign of the time, at least a_early one, is the lack of
attention on Kentucky-Indiana.
I wouldn't count No Carolina outta of that there Final 4. They get
Sullivan back soon, the sophomore trio of McInnis, Stackhouse and Rasheed
will only get better. Donald Williams just might return from wherever he
went after winning it all in 93. If they can stay outta foul trouble and
hit the free throws, they'll be hard to beat.
Of course, there's always Dean.
TTom
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| 14.823 | any truth the rumor that Bob's going to start 5 freshman? | CNTROL::CHILDS | Theresa's Sound World | Wed Dec 07 1994 17:48 | 4 |
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the last line said it all TTom and that's what I'm banking on....
mike
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| 14.824 | Nat'l Coalition of Avarice and Arrogance signs pact | AKOCOA::BREEN | But in the land of the One-eyed Men | Wed Dec 07 1994 19:04 | 16 |
| Well the ncaa signed their biggest contract yet with cbs for 1.725 bil
thru 2002 or 215 mil/year. In spite or as a part of the deal coverage
in the lesser sports, including women's basketball has been
discontinued.
In the article I read there was a quote about "confidences kept"
between the parties in a very garbled paragraph about the signings. As
I've noted here before this probably referred to the quid pro quo about
guarantees that Marquee names would be assured for the final four
amongst the Dukes,NC,Michigan etal. You can pretty well take it to the
bank that this "guarantee" was there but proving it will be difficult
if the parties have had the success in keeping it under wraps that they
seem to have had.
Mike's non-marquis final four may have some chance this year but none
in year's prior.
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| 14.825 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Wed Dec 07 1994 19:14 | 6 |
| How can they guarantee big name schools in the final 4?
What happens if some school like B.C. knocks of some schools like N.C. and
Indiana as they did this year?
George
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| 14.826 | The biggest question? Would anyone care? | AKOCOA::BREEN | But in the land of the One-eyed Men | Wed Dec 07 1994 19:26 | 17 |
| First by the seedings of the top 64 and placings. Yes, accidents
happen like a dissent ridden tar-heel team losing to a BC team fighting
for it's coach against the world.
By letting it be known in some subtle way to the officiating community
what it wants and how much is at stake. No official is ever of course
"told" to do anything but those who produce the desired results are
promoted those who don't find themselves not invited back.
Designated lackeys in media and broadcast can influence the desired
results. Some of the big advertisers and possibly "pep" groups can aid
in the financing, recruitment etc of the pet schools.
The question is was the "guarantee" made before the '93 tournement as
alluded to by WSJ and can it be verified? The result surely occurred
as wished for. The how can be merely speculated.
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| 14.827 | they'll be back but will Kansas go away? don't think so | CNTROL::CHILDS | Theresa's Sound World | Thu Dec 08 1994 14:17 | 14 |
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geez my whammy's reaching Dinzanesca proportions.....
Cross had a tough first half but DeClerq looks like a 1 st team AA...
Osterberg was smart to stay behind. His all around game has improved
and should net him the lottery with his size. Must be nice to be able
to reload as easily as Roy does.
What a barnburn the first one between IU and KU was. If IU could have
handled the press KU would be an early season disappointment for sure.
Don't see KU getting past the round of 16......
mike
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| 14.828 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Dec 08 1994 15:59 | 4 |
| Gee Mike did you notice how Florida almost erased an eight point lead
with only 30 seconds left, pretty smart use of their time-outs 8*)
Jimbo the back seat driver
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| 14.829 | ok next time we'll try a TO | CNTROL::CHILDS | Theresa's Sound World | Thu Dec 08 1994 16:45 | 7 |
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yeah but we don't have any set plays like they do.... ;^)
and you forgot to bring the clipboard so I could draw it up....
;^)
mike
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| 14.830 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Dec 08 1994 17:03 | 7 |
| I actually have one of those clipboards somewhere.
Interesting game tonight with UNC giving 12 to Nova. IMJIMBO
likes his Big East Conference and the 12 points. Deano will
keep it close.......
Jimbo
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| 14.831 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Fri Dec 09 1994 15:47 | 3 |
| Nova covered, Nova covered 8*)
Jimbo
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| 14.832 | dog daze? | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Dec 09 1994 15:54 | 8 |
| Is it just me or does it seem like December is Dog Days in hoops?
Just off the top of my haid, Wake, No Carolina and Arkansas, all rated
teams, won but dint cover lasted night.
In the NBA, only Phoenix covered.
TTom
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| 14.833 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Hakuna Matata - means no worries... | Tue Dec 20 1994 13:19 | 6 |
| Time for NAZZ to change his p-name - latest polls have
UMass moving up to fourth. Of course it doesn't mean
anythang, since NCAA hoops decides its champeen on the
court, not in the polls.
=Bob=
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| 14.834 | still 4th | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Tue Dec 20 1994 17:44 | 26 |
| CNN/USA Today/Coaches: AP
1. No Carolina 1. No Carolina
2. UCLA 2. UCLA
3. Arkansas 3. Arkansas
4. Massachusetts 4. Massachusetts
5. Duke 5. Kentucky
6. Kentucky 6. Arizona
7. Arizona 7. Kansas
8. Florida 8. Florida
9. Connecticut 9. Duke
10. Kansas 10. Connecticut
11. Maryland 11. Maryland
12. Arizona St 12. Georgetown
13. Cincinnati 13. Cincinnati
14. Georgetown 14. Syracuse
15. Minnesota 15. Arizona St
16. Syracuse 16. Minnesota
17. Michigan St 17. Michigan St
18. New Mexico St 18. Georgia Tech
19. Georgia Tech 19. Wake Forest
20. Wisconsin 20. Wisconsin
21. Virginia 21. New Mexico St
22. Wake Forest 22. Virginia
22. Indiana 23. Illinois
24. Nebraska 24. California
25. Oklahoma St 25. Iowa St
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| 14.835 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Tue Dec 20 1994 17:55 | 15 |
| Tom, is this current? I figured ASU would drop some after they were
upset on Sunday night.
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| 14.836 | earlier | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Tue Dec 20 1994 18:25 | 4 |
| I think this is the over the weekend poll, afore them Sun Devils did
their best choke job.
TTom
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| 14.837 | | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | We're 4th and movin' up! | Tue Dec 20 1994 19:43 | 3 |
| Thanks for reminding me.
NAZZ
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| 14.838 | scoring on yourself | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Wed Dec 21 1994 16:05 | 15 |
| Here's a good un:
Rod Baxter, coach of York (Neb) basketball has been officially reassigned
by the school's president. York is NAIA Division II.
It seems ol' Rod got hisself into some hot water for telling his team to
score for the opposing team. In a game against Midland Lutheran (Neb), he
told one of his players to take inbound passes and score for Midland. The
players scored Midland's 99th through 104th points. Baxter didn't want to
have a_opponent scoring 100 points against his team.
Baxter maintains, however, that he was reassigned not for this but
because he spent too much time with his wife, who's ill.
TTOm
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| 14.839 | Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Tue Dec 27 1994 17:37 | 26 |
| CNN/USA Today/Coaches: AP
1. No Carolina 1. No Carolina
2. UCLA 2. UCLA
3. Arkansas 3. Arkansas
4. Massachusetts 4. Massachusetts
5. Kentucky 5. Kentucky
6. Connecticut 6. Kansas
7. Duke 7. Duke
8. Kansas 8. Connecticut
9. Arizona 9. Maryland
10. Syracuse 10. Arizona
11. Maryland 11. Syracuse
12. Florida 12. Georgetown
13. Arizona St 13. Florida
14. Georgetown 14. California
15. Michigan St 15. Michigan St
16. Georgia Tech 16. Arizona St
17. California 17. Georgia Tech
18. Cincinnati 18. Wake Forest
19. New Mexico St 19. Wisconsin
20. Indiana 20. Cincinnati
21. Wisconsin 21. Iowa St
22. Wake Forest 22. New Mexico St
22. Nebraska 23. Nebraska
24. Iowa St 24. Indiana
25. Minnesota 25. St. John's
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| 14.840 | Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Mon Jan 09 1995 13:12 | 26 |
| CNN/USA Today/Coaches:
1. Massachusetts
2. No Carolina
3. Connecticut
4. Arkansas
5. Kansas
6. UCLA
7. Kentucky
8. Syracuse
9. Arizona
10. Arizona St
11. Michigan St
12. Georgetown
13. Maryland
14. Duke
15. Florida
16. Wake Forest
17. Georgia Tech
18. New Mexico St
19. Iowa
20. Missouri
21. Pennsylvania
22. California
23. Indiana
24. Iowa St
25. Clemson
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| 14.841 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Theresa's Sound World | Mon Jan 09 1995 13:59 | 8 |
|
How does Kentucky manage to stay in the top ten? The coach or history?
I've seen them twice and they've shown me nothing. Sure they can press
and hit some threes but they just don't have the necessary chemistry
or players for that matter imo to make any kind of a serious run at
either the SEC title or NCAA's........
mike
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| 14.842 | voting | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Mon Jan 09 1995 14:03 | 11 |
| When you vote on things, you sometimes get strange results. Remember,
Richard Nixon won the presidency, twice ;-).
It's been this way for a while. Some of the voters obviously don't even
watch the games. They have a list of 10 or so teams - No Carolina, Duke,
Kentucky, etc. - that they will always put on their ballots.
At least in hooops, they play for a championship so it doesn't matter,
except to the 65th best team, possibly.
TTom
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| 14.843 | Beat Florida by 16 on the road is one way | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - #1 again!!! | Wed Jan 11 1995 14:10 | 5 |
| Kentucky demolished Florida at Gainsville lasted night. They were up
by over 30 at one point. Pitino emptied his bench and Kruger never
did, which is why the final score was almost respectable.
NAZZ
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| 14.844 | Umass vs Penn. | SALEM::WRIGHT_R | | Fri Jan 13 1995 12:42 | 2 |
| Where is the Umass game Saturday night being played at, I heard
something about the centrum.
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| 14.845 | I look for a very close game - UMass depth will carry the day | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - #1 again!!! | Fri Jan 13 1995 13:04 | 12 |
| At the Mullins Center - 9PM on ESPN.
NAZZ
PS - For what it's worth, Coach Cal sounded very worried about this
game in his postgame radio gig. He noted that Penn has almost their
entire team back from the group that almost beat UMass in the NCAAs two
years ago, they have had a week to prepare while UMass will be playing
its 6th game in 12 days, and the Minutemen simply aren't playing that
well right now.
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| 14.846 | Camby | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | I have no answers | Fri Jan 13 1995 13:49 | 11 |
| >> .. and the Minutemen simply aren't playing that well right now.
agree .. St. Bonaventure gave them a big time scare earlier
this week and Rutgers hung with them (for a while) last night ..
speaking of whcih, what got into Marcus Camby last night?
he got into two scuffles and was tossed from the game .. will
he be eligible for the Penn game? it would really hurt UMass
if he weren't, the inside is where UMass should be able to dominate
the Quakers ..
Vinny
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| 14.847 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Theresa's Sound World | Fri Jan 13 1995 13:58 | 5 |
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Camby's eligible for Penn cause he got tossed for two technicials not for
fighting.
mike
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| 14.848 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | President of Donny Osmond FanClub | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:09 | 8 |
|
WhaT an absolute joy it was last night to listen to Al Maguire color
commentate the UMASS game. The guy's probably forgotten more about
Basketball then that jerk Vitale will ever know. Vitale has become
such a bore that I turn the sound off on any game he's involved with.
If I thought I could do it I'd lead a national campaign to get rid of the
bum.......
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| 14.849 | Vitale must GO | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is FIVE!!! | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:26 | 8 |
| re: Vitale
|If I thought I could do it I'd lead a national campaign to get rid of the
|bum.......
I'm with you on that one. He was doing his schtick on the
UCLA-Zona game lasted night. The play-by-play guys must
dread the assignment of working with him.
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| 14.850 | | METSNY::francus | There is no joy in Mudville | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:41 | 5 |
| > The play-by-play guys must dread the assignment of working with him.
on the other hand they don't have to do a whole lot of talking.
The Crazy Met
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| 14.851 | tough life, somebody has to do it | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:43 | 6 |
| On the other hand, you get national exposure.
Yeah, it must be rough for those guys to get paid to watch arguably the
bestest sport they is, college hoops, and get paid to run their mouth.
TTom
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| 14.852 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is FIVE!!! | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:49 | 5 |
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|Yeah, it must be rough for those guys to get paid to watch arguably the
|bestest sport they is, college hoops, and get paid to run their mouth.
Yabbut they must pay Vitale by the syllable
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| 14.853 | there's worser | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:55 | 11 |
| So y'all are telling me you'd rather listen to Billy Packer pontificate
on something that has absolutely nothing to do with the current
game?
I'll take all of Vitale afore I listen to Packer. My remote control has a
mute on it and many a game is watched but not listened to when Packer's
doing the game.
Or Bob Trumpy and Dick Enberg trying to do football. Ugh 8=(
TTom
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| 14.854 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is FIVE!!! | Fri Jan 20 1995 13:59 | 10 |
| |So y'all are telling me you'd rather listen to Billy Packer pontificate
|on something that has absolutely nothing to do with the current
|game?
No, tain't tell you that at all. There's not much to choose
from between Packer and Vitale. Unfortunatly, if it is
anything remotely resembling a big game, you are bound to
be stuck with one of the two.
=Bob=
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| 14.855 | and the kiss | WMOIS::BALL_K | | Fri Jan 20 1995 14:04 | 4 |
| Let me add Bill Raffery (Rafferty ?) to the list of annoying
commentators
I'm getting really sick of his plays or puns on the player names etc.
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| 14.856 | real bad | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 14:05 | 15 |
| Tell the truth =Bob=.
I think that sports announcing as one of the most unbelievable things I
ever encountered.
You'd figger that it would be highly competitive and therefore you'd get
high quality. Nothing could be further than the truth.
Look at what they give us: Al, Frank and Dork for MNF; Trumpy and Enberg;
Packer and Vitale; ugh, ugher ughest.
I guess that this is sorta like politicians. You expect them to be good,
they aint and all they do is add to what you gotta pay.
TTom
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| 14.857 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is FIVE!!! | Fri Jan 20 1995 14:14 | 19 |
| re: announcers
I think that they cater their styles at attracting the casual
fan. They know folks like us are going to watch, but they
figure that if they get somebody colorful, "funny", or interesting,
the casual fan will stay with the game.
Bearing that in mind, they tehn bring in guys with the style
they have deemed to "work", hence Vitale, Packer, and Raftery
all try to be loud and flamboyant.
The most noted guy on sports radio in Boston, Eddie Andleman
(who I personally can't stand - if he doesn't have somebody
on with him, I swich), took a tirade agianst my main main,
Beasley Reese. He went to the point of calling NBC, and
telling them that he "sucked". I still think Beasley is
good.
=Bob=
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| 14.858 | | METSNY::francus | There is no joy in Mudville | Fri Jan 20 1995 14:21 | 7 |
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Then you have announcers like Marv Albert, Pat Sumerall who are very different
than those you mentioned and are very easy to listen to.
why oh why did ABC have to hir Musburger :-(
The Crazy Met
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| 14.859 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | President of Donny Osmond FanClub | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:05 | 2 |
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I'll take Packer any day over Vitalieeeeeeeee
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| 14.860 | familiarity breed contempt | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:18 | 6 |
| Mike,
If'n you lived in this here region you could catch Packer about 3 times a
week. The ACC is where he got started.
TTom
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| 14.861 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | President of Donny Osmond FanClub | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:27 | 13 |
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That's ok, I'll stay here where we get Rafferty. He used to coach Wake
Forest. Probably had as lousy a record as Vitaleeeeeee.........
Great line from Al last night on Lou Roe and how hard he play every night
"A take no prisoners, shoot the wounded type guy".......
Compare that with a probably Dicky "Mr Intensity Babeeee a 100 percenter
babeeeeee"......
tell me which you prefer.........
mike
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| 14.862 | Packer: the worst | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 15:33 | 15 |
| If'n you mean Packer, yeah he started at Wake.
The man has absolutely no credibility. For starters, he broke about every
rule in the book that you can, including paying players, forging grades,
getting papers written by other students for his players, etc.
But the thing that irritates me the worse is his Prepared Agenda. He
comes to a came with a set number of things to say. Preparation is fine
but what you say should be relevant to what is going on. He says those
things no matter what is going on.
BTW, ESPN is having a contest. Send them a tape of your best 1 minute
interpretation of Vitale and you might win some prizes.
TTom
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| 14.863 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Fri Jan 20 1995 16:05 | 7 |
| Mikey doesn't have the shrilly voice to do a Vitale. He could do
a take-off using Vitale's material and Johnny Most's voice 8*)
Lou roe had an impressive 9 big ones last night. That URI D must
be something else. hee hee hee
Jimbo
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| 14.864 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is FIVE!!! | Fri Jan 20 1995 16:37 | 0 |
| 14.865 | Top 25 schedule for weekend | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 16:46 | 29 |
| Top 25 schedule, Saturday:
1. Massachusetts vs Temple
2. Connecticut at Seton Hall
3. No Carolina vs Va Tech (Greensboro)
4. UCLA at Arizona St
5. Kentucky vs Vanderbilt
6. Syracuse at Providence
7. Arkansas at So Carolina
8. Kansas at Colorado
11. Arizona vs Southern Cal
13. Arizona St vs UCLA
15. Iowa St at Kansas St
16. Wake Forest vs Clemson
17. New Mexico St at Nevada
21. Oregon at Washington
22. Illinois at Minnesota
24. Clemson at Wake Forest
25. Iowa vs Wisconsin
9. Maryland at NC State
10. Georgetown at Villanova (Spectrum)
12. Michigan St at Michigan
14. Missouri at Oklahoma St
18. Georgia Tech at Virginia
19. Virginia vs Georgia Tech
20. Florida at Tennessee
23. Stanford idle
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| 14.866 | Must be a trend | MUNDIS::SSHERMAN | Steve Sherman @MFR | Fri Jan 20 1995 17:16 | 24 |
| .855 by WMOIS::BALL_K--
> Let me add Bill Raffery (Rafferty ?) to the list of annoying
> commentators
>
> I'm getting really sick of his plays or puns on the player names etc.
Exactly the way I feel about Chris Berman and his nicknames, but he does
seem to have a following. There is even a Berman-style nicknames
feature in Baseball America, which is a paper for purists like me.
(The last baseball commentator I liked as little as I like Berman was
a guy named Howard Cosell.)
TTom, what don't you like about Dick Enberg? I haven't heard him since
he was working with Merlin Olsen, but I liked him then. And when I
still lived in Southern California 20 years ago, he was the voice of
the California Angels, and was *excellent*, even in a situation where
he was compared directly to Vin Scully every day.
Of course, the cobbler should stick to his last. A good baseball man
might be a lousy football or basketball man. Howard Cosell was a
very good boxing commentator, for example.
Steve
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| 14.867 | not as bad as Trumpy | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 17:27 | 13 |
| Enberg, like a lot of others, suffers from thinking he has something
worth saying and listening to.
Dick Schap (sp?) is another one.
Actually, for some events I could see Enberg. I think he'd be perfect for
ice skating. But when it comes to football, he contributes little which
of course in no way prevents him from talking.
But if'n were rating 'em, I'd take Enberg all day all night all sports
over Trumpy.
TTom
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| 14.868 | game of the week | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Fri Jan 20 1995 19:41 | 1 |
| 14.869 | And by the way keep those awful Vegas guys out | AKOCOA::BREEN | It's all in the outcome | Fri Jan 20 1995 19:44 | 16 |
| The problem is television itself which as an institution cannot merely
report what is going on but feels it has to produce it. The bigger the
event the more the production. Finally those reporting it are graded
by how well they make the production fit in with the action.
TV hasn't stopped here. They loved the audience for the ncaa
tournement and marketed it to their advertisers "very well" but they
can't stop there. Now they tell the ncaa that if only the big name
teams can be in the final four it will be worth ever so much more and
can't we somehow guarantee that.
So finally someone says "What is it really that you want?" and tv says
see that guy with the sublime smile and beatific visage over there with
those handsome all-america boys in powder blue?". "Find a way to get
him and the little guy with the beak that looks so concerned for his
boys into the final four and there'll be a cool $billion in there.
|
| 14.870 | Too late on this one | AKOCOA::BREEN | It's all in the outcome | Fri Jan 20 1995 20:15 | 3 |
| btw - I didn't see the score or an account of the N.C. - Va game.
I'm guessing nc won it from an earlier comment.
|
| 14.871 | No Carolina | HBAHBA::HAAS | dingle lingo | Fri Jan 20 1995 20:23 | 5 |
| Yeah, the Tar Heels won 79-76 a big did not cover.
Also, in case you missed it, NC State beat Duke but then again so does
about everyone.
TTom
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| 14.872 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | The Mekons ROOOOL | Tue Jan 24 1995 20:45 | 11 |
|
how about that bafoon Vitale last night. He makes a statement that he
can see 8 teams winning 6 games comes march.
"Certainly Umass, UConn, UNC, Arkansas, UCLA and Arizona, oh yeah you
have throw in Kentucky" and then he can't think of number 8 until Sean
says what about Kansas?
he agrees Kansas. what a boob...........
mike
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| 14.873 | Nah, he's just getting older Mike | AKOCOA::BREEN | I was all right for awhile.. | Wed Jan 25 1995 14:21 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.874 | Well there was one sporting event Sunday | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Mon Jan 30 1995 20:20 | 25 |
| Well the weekend wasn't a complete bust with Arkansas outlasting
Kentucky in a burner (94-92?). Kentucky had the ball with 12 seconds
and Pitino elected to not call the timeout and the Cats didn't really
get much of a shot off. Once his team hesitated Pitino should've taken
the timeout.
Nolan Richardson didn't take a timeout with 25 seconds left either.
Billy Packer made a complete fool of himself on one play when Corliss
tried to lay in a shot at the 35(?) second buzzer and hit the rim which
should have resulted in a reset of the time-clock which stayed at 1
second.
Packer lambasted the officials for not calling a foul and replayed the
play 5 times and never noticed what was obvious if he'd care to look at
his own monitor: That Willimason wasn't touched on the actual shot
attempt though both before and after there was contact, as much
instigated by Corliss as anyone.
That's one thing so common to tv announcers is making a call but
ignoring the replay and refusing to admit they're wrong (with their
partner forced to bite lips). Enberg did the same thing in S.D -
Miami.
Billte
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| 14.875 | Rare treat on Sarandis last night | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Wed Feb 01 1995 12:25 | 13 |
| Sarandis interviewed John Wooden which was one of those Christmas in
Febuary things. Ted had mentioned someone name Woo' den but I finally
realized he had the all time greatest college basketball coach on.
John Corroborated several of us by stating
Walton is the best all-around center of all time (He waffled a bit on
Kareem/Alcindor by calling him mvp - JW doesn't actually ever choose
there). Walton (healthy) of course could do it all at the highest
level.
Another point is on referees ruining basketball by simply not calling
the game by the rules. TV is mainly to blame here (my opinion).
|
| 14.876 | Wooden >> Dean | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is FIVE!!! | Wed Feb 01 1995 12:47 | 0 |
| 14.877 | Mid-season Look | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Thu Feb 02 1995 14:49 | 23 |
| Mid-season look at tournament FAVORITES:
Great-8 ?: UMASS (only if Camby plays)
NC (STACKHOUSE !)
Kansas (the best all-around ?)
Kentucky (a tough out)
UConn (a lot of talent, but will they get killed
inside ?)
Maryland (Joe Smith can dominate a game)
Arkansas (a given)
Villanova (wouldn't wanna play 'em)
Other Sweet-16s:
UCLA (can any PAC-10 team get this far ?)
Syracuse (Lloyd's the key)
Arizona (can the frontline help Stoudamire ?)
Geo Tech (Best's last show)
Virginia (I'm waffling here....)
Cincinnati (good tourney team)
Alabama (don't they always get this far ?)
Wake Forest (will Duncan play big in tourney ?)
I really think this tournament will be dominated by the ACC, BE and SEC.
|
| 14.878 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | UMass > UConn | Fri Feb 03 1995 14:02 | 19 |
|
My Crack at the sweet 16:
UMass
Arkansas
Kansas
Maryland
Ohio U
Villinova
Kentucky
Arizona St.
Michigan St.
Florida
UCLA
Georgetown
Syracuse
Alabama
Georgia Tech
UNC <-- only because of favorable seeding.........
|
| 14.879 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | JAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUST | Fri Feb 03 1995 14:22 | 3 |
|
Wheres UConn Mike??
|
| 14.880 | beat their press and they're done | CNTROL::CHILDS | UMass > UConn | Fri Feb 03 1995 14:26 | 4 |
|
watching on TV.........
mike
|
| 14.881 | GO DROODS! | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Fri Feb 03 1995 15:39 | 14 |
| 14.882 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | JAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUST | Fri Feb 03 1995 15:41 | 6 |
|
So does that mean they are 8-3 against unranked opponents??
Chap
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| 14.883 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Fri Feb 03 1995 15:43 | 3 |
| 14.884 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The dream is always the same... | Fri Feb 03 1995 15:52 | 4 |
| 14.885 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Feb 03 1995 16:30 | 4 |
|
...and Penn...
Joe
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| 14.886 | Just wondering | CSLALL::BRULE | Was there life before ESPN? | Fri Feb 03 1995 16:40 | 5 |
| Saw,
do you follow the University of Hartford basketball team? The head
coach Brazeau is from my hometown and I was wondering how's he doing?
Mike
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| 14.887 | MSU is good, but not heads above other Big10 teams | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | | Fri Feb 03 1995 17:47 | 11 |
| Don't be too surprised to see Minnesota in the Sweet 16 as well.
They've beaten Arizona, Villanova and BYU to win the Alaskan shootout,
should've beaten Cincinnati (lost in OT after a dramatice three-point
bomb by Cincy tied it in regulation) and lost a tough one point game in
East Lansing last week after leading in the final seconds. Look for them
to finish about 12-6 in the Big10, including wins over Michigan, MSU and
Purdue, who are currently ahead of them. That should put them about 21-9
for the season.
Spud
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| 14.888 | by next friday | CNTROL::CHILDS | UMass > UConn | Fri Feb 03 1995 18:12 | 12 |
|
we'll let's have a little contest then to see who's right. send your
picks to cntrol::Childs. Who ever gets the most right wins a prize
of my choice. I'll take Joe's note and mind as the first two entries.
If we're tied. Those tied will then pick the Elite 8 as a tiebreaker.
Still tied final four, still tied final two, still tied points in the
championship game. to make it fair to Joe and myself you only have
till next friday to enter and Joe if you care to change any picks
before next friday you can. My picks will remain the same, unless
of course someone the Shaq of the Mac gets hurt.........
mike
|
| 14.889 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Fri Feb 03 1995 18:17 | 13 |
|
For those in the know about the tournament seeding and how it's
historically been done: how many Big-10 teams do you see them
selecting? Based on the AP rankings I thought that the conference
was regarded as weak overall (it isn't great even if fairly deep)
and that maybe as few as only 3-4 teams might make it, but last
night I heard John Calipari heaping praise on the depth of the Big-10
in particular. Will all the teams with winning records in Big-10
conference play make it (if not Indiana may have a problem for the
first time in quite a while)?
glenn
|
| 14.890 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Feb 03 1995 18:48 | 9 |
| I'm not going to claim to be 'in the know', but I do think the Big-10
is in trouble this year. Their #s may be few, and I don't see any getting
past the Sweet-16 (I don't think any of their teams will get out of the
2nd round).
If they're considered weak as a conference, and beat each other up,
non-conference games will mean a lot in determining who among them
gets in (eg: Mich's losses to Penn and SJU on their home floor won't
help them).
|
| 14.891 | SEC rules; BE shut out | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass - #1 again!!! | Fri Feb 03 1995 19:38 | 21 |
| Here's my crack at it:
UMass
Arkansas
Kentucky
Alabama
Mississippi St.
Arizona
Arizona State
UCLA
North Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
Kansas
Iowa State
Tulane
Michigan State
Indiana
NAZZ
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| 14.892 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Feb 03 1995 19:54 | 4 |
| > -< SEC rules; BE shut out >-
Nazz, Nazz, Nazz.... UMass will be out of the tourney before the last
Big East team.
|
| 14.893 | Here they are | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Sun Feb 05 1995 00:38 | 16 |
| Arizona
Arkansas
Brigham Young
Connecticut
Iowa State
Kansas
Kentucky
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan State
Mississippi State
North Carolina
Santa Clara
Syracuse
UCLA
Wake Forest
|
| 14.894 | Out by second game of NCAA's | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | | Mon Feb 06 1995 13:42 | 8 |
| Hey Joe G!
Have to agree with you on UMASS. They're not playing a tough enough
schedule to be prepared for the NCAA's. They're doing well with what
they have, but a lot of teams would be #1 with that schedule.
Spud
|
| 14.895 | Down...maybe not out | CSOA1::SIMPSON_T | run-by fruiting | Mon Feb 06 1995 14:03 | 16 |
|
The Big Ten is down this year relative to years past, but a good guess
is that that means 4-5 teams in the tournament instead of the normal 7. Any of
the following could make it into the Sweet 16 without it being much of a
surprise:
INDIANA
Mich. St.
Michigan
Purdue
Illinois
Minnesota
With the exception of Mich. St., any of these could also lose in the
first round without it being too much of a surprise.
tom
|
| 14.896 | No Indiana and No Duke in the Tourney ? | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Feb 06 1995 14:26 | 4 |
| > INDIANA
Some of the TV guys are starting to question whether the Hoosiers (5-4,
13-8) will make it to the Big Dance.
|
| 14.897 | Hoosiers "on the bubble" | CSOA1::SIMPSON_T | run-by fruiting | Mon Feb 06 1995 16:24 | 17 |
|
Duke's certainly out. Indiana probably has to go something like
6-3 the rest of the way to get in. This would probably put them in
the top 5 in the Big Ten, and would leave them at 19-11 overall (18-11 after
subtracting the Division II(?) win over Chaminade). Otherwise they lose both
the longest home-court streak in the country and the longest Sweet-16 streak
in the same year.
The Hoosiers have looked very good at times this year, but they have
too many minutes being played by inexperienced players --- their best starting
lineup has three freshmen, with another freshman first off the bench at guard.
This leaves them with two freshmen, a sophomore with limited skills, the awful
Todd Lindemann, and the coach's son left on the bench. Definitely not a
lineup that's going to scare anyone. Alan Henderson's one of the best players
in the country, but if you control him you control the Hoosiers.
tom
|
| 14.898 | Big10 may be down, but is as good/better than BE | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | | Mon Feb 06 1995 17:23 | 6 |
| That would make this Wednesday's game with my Gophs rather important.
It is a game Minnesota should win, but knowing their past Big10 road
woes, I wouldn't be surprised to see Indiana pull it out.
Spud
|
| 14.899 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Feb 06 1995 18:11 | 6 |
| > -< Big10 may be down, but is as good/better than BE >-
Spud, see SJU's win AT Michigan (ie: bottom of BE vs. upper-half Big-10).
I don't know how good Mich St. really is, but they look like the ONLY team
that could play with UConn, Syracuse and Villanova.
|
| 14.900 | I thin the Big Ten would do ok vs. Big East | CNTROL::CHILDS | UMass > UConn | Mon Feb 06 1995 18:30 | 20 |
|
Hey Joe, I'm a Big East fan too but let's not be blowing the horn too loudly
here. The only team that I see that will do some damage come the tournement
is Nova. SU on the strength of Moten and Wallace should make the 16's but
that it. The other guys are streaky at best and they lack a take charge
point guard. Sure the win against Zona was nice but we're talking a team
so over-rated it's pathetic. As Stodlemiere goes so goes Zona. Owes is
a nice player but certainly not a dominate one or one who can create his
own offense. UConn please? Knight went from major stiff to minor stiff.
Sort of luck going from A ball to double A. Marshall's a thug in a uniform,
Allen can only score and Fair and Ollie can only score if the game isn't
on the line. Scoffer is the only player on the team I'd want on mine.
Georgetown who knows they go from brillant to the bottom of the pack
in a five minute span of game never mind from game to game. Nova has
the pieces and the experience.
While I'd love to see all 4 make the final 16 I doubt it. I can't comment
on Seton Hall cause I've yet to see them.......
mike
|
| 14.901 | It's wide open | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | | Mon Feb 06 1995 18:34 | 9 |
| Joe,
I guess I'm saying that neither conference looks all that powerful this
year. I would say the Big 8 is probably better than both right now.
To me there isn't any outstanding team or favorite this year.
Spud
|
| 14.902 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Mon Feb 06 1995 19:09 | 9 |
| Mikey change that personal name!!! Why is the knock on Allen that
he doesn't play "D"? We're not watching the same game. This is a
guard who is getting 7 boards a game.
I think what's hurting the big ten is they don't have a standout team.
ACC - UNC Big East - UCONN,Syracuse Big Eight-Kansas. I couldn't even
tell you who is leading the conference....
Jimbo
|
| 14.903 | | MROA::WILKES | | Tue Feb 07 1995 12:17 | 4 |
| Incredible game by "Big Country" Reeves last night against Kansas.
It was refreshing to watch an old style "lunch bucket" player dominate
a big college game for a change.
|
| 14.904 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | TLC >> Salt_N_Peppa | Tue Feb 07 1995 12:24 | 8 |
|
he sure did a number on that bum Ostertag. I think the final was 76-69 and
Big Country had 33 points and 20 boards. I did notice that Roy Williams
certainly learnt how to whine ala Dean Smith. You know that nose up in the
air superiority style whine, the how dare you call that on us don't you
know who I am style that Dean has perfected..........
mike
|
| 14.905 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Feb 07 1995 13:17 | 6 |
| > certainly learnt how to whine ala Dean Smith. You know that nose up in the
> air superiority style whine, the how dare you call that on us don't you
> know who I am style that Dean has perfected..........
Yeah, whining is disgusting, but I find Boeheim's whine easier to take...
it's almost humorous.
|
| 14.906 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | TLC >> Salt_N_Peppa | Tue Feb 07 1995 13:42 | 5 |
|
that's cause Boehiem looks like Muraco Mole. It's easy to take when you're
laughing...........
;^)
|
| 14.907 | *BIG* game by Big Country | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Tue Feb 07 1995 14:24 | 19 |
|
I really hadn't seen much of him before, and wondered what the fuss was
about. It really was enjoyable to watch someone bust his butt and put
up the big numbers. The points came two at a time unless he got hammered,
and he looked like he was involved in his share of contact.
Two things struck me - he's an excellent free throw shooter for a big man, and
my impression was that he was a pretty smart player. He does look like he just
walked out of a silo, though.
Two questions for the masses:
1) do you all think he looks like a smart player
2) what kind of a pro do you think he'll make?
20 boards is just a monster game, man...
Roland
|
| 14.908 | Tom Boerwinkle, jr. | WMOIS::REEVE_C | | Tue Feb 07 1995 14:40 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.909 | Depending on how many underclassmen come out, of course | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Wed Feb 08 1995 14:35 | 4 |
| He'll be next year's Eric Montross, except he has a better shooting
touch. I expect him to be an early lottery pick.
NAZZ
|
| 14.910 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | TLC >> Salt_N_Peppa | Wed Feb 08 1995 15:03 | 8 |
|
Anymore sweet - 16 contestants? So for I have Nazz, Mr. Rollins, Joe G. and
myself........
either mail the picks to cntrol::Childs or post em here and I'll extract
them. Friday is the deadline.........
mike
|
| 14.911 | Mine | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | JAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUST | Wed Feb 08 1995 15:07 | 19 |
|
NC
Maryland
U Conn
Syracuse
Mich St
Purdue
G'Town
Kansas
UCLA
KY
Villanova
Arkansas
Alabama
Miss St
UMass
Missouri
|
| 14.912 | "Big" conference domination | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | I have no answers | Wed Feb 08 1995 15:47 | 15 |
|
Sweet Sixteen:
UConn, Syracuse, Georgetown, Villanova
Kentucky, Arkansas
UNC, Maryland
UCLA, Arizona
Michigan State, Purdue
Kansas, Oklahoma State
UMass, Cincinatti
Just call this the anti-Nazz entry .. :-)
Vinny
|
| 14.913 | I'm in | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Wed Feb 08 1995 15:59 | 18 |
| Sweet 16:
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Kansas
Kentucky
Maryland
Michigan St
Mississippi St
No Carolina
Oklahoma St
Purdue
UCLA
UConn
UMass
W Kentucky
Wake Forest
|
| 14.914 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The dream is always the same... | Wed Feb 08 1995 16:05 | 5 |
| 14.915 | | CSC32::MACGREGOR | | Wed Feb 08 1995 16:35 | 5 |
|
Read again, the deadline is this Friday.
Marc
|
| 14.916 | 16 teams | AKOCOA::BREEN | That is enough for me and for thee | Wed Feb 08 1995 16:37 | 16 |
| Kentucky
Alabama
Arkansas
kansas
Conn
UMass
Mich.St
Indiana
Purdue
Cincinatti
UCLA
Arizona
Maryland
NorthCarolina
WakeForest
Missouri
|
| 14.917 | My Sweet 16 | USCTR1::HONER | Go Ahead | Wed Feb 08 1995 18:16 | 17 |
| Indiana
UConn
UMass
Arkansas
Kentucky
Alabama
Kansas
Mich.St
Purdue
UCLA
Arizona
Maryland
North Carolina
Wake Forest
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
|
| 14.918 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The dream is always the same... | Wed Feb 08 1995 19:14 | 17 |
| 14.919 | | MTWAIN::BURROWS | Volkl: Smoke'm if you got'm. | Thu Feb 09 1995 12:19 | 17 |
|
UConn
UMass
Arkansas
Kentucky
Kansas
UCLA
Michigan State
Maryland
North Carolina
Wake Forest
Oklahoma State
Syracuse
Villanova
Florida
Alabama
Georgia Tech
|
| 14.920 | | OLD1S::CADZILLA2 | Honk if you Honkey | Thu Feb 09 1995 13:29 | 17 |
|
No. Carolina
Maryland
Geo. Tech
Kansas
Missouri
Okla St.
Kentucky
Arkansas
Miss St.
Ucla
Arizona
UConn
Syracuse
Mich. St.
Purdue
TCU
|
| 14.921 | My entry | MROA::WILKES | | Thu Feb 09 1995 13:46 | 16 |
| Kentucky
Arkansas
Syracuse
Kansas
North Carolina
Maryland
Michigan State
Purdue
Wake Forest
Missouri
Oklahoma State
UMass
UConn
Villanova
Georgia Tech
UCLA
|
| 14.922 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Big Brother >> John Q. Public | Thu Feb 09 1995 14:21 | 5 |
|
keep those entries coming.....remember the deadline is tomorrow.....
so far we got 12 players.....
mike
|
| 14.923 | | WMOIS::BALL_K | | Thu Feb 09 1995 16:20 | 16 |
| UMASS
UConn
Sryacuse
Mich St
N. Carolina
Virginia
Maryland
Clemson
Kansas
Okla St.
Missouri
UCLA
Arkansas
Kentucky
Memphis
Tulane
|
| 14.924 | Anythings possible in the Big Dance | LUDWIG::GARRY | | Thu Feb 09 1995 23:22 | 20 |
| Heres my stab at it;
North Carolina
Wake Forest
UCONN
Syracuse
Kansas
Missouri
Purdue
New Mexico St
Xavier
UCLA
Stanford
Kentucky
Miss St
Utah
Texas Tech
UMASS
Tom
|
| 14.925 | is it too late, or do we have 'til end of day today? | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Fri Feb 10 1995 11:55 | 16 |
| Alabama
Arizona
Kansas
Kentucky
Maryland
Memphis
Michigan St.
Missouri
N. Carolina
Oklahoma St.
Syracuse
UCLA
U. Conn
U. Mass
Villanova
Wake Forest
|
| 14.926 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Feb 10 1995 12:06 | 27 |
|
Given: I follow college basketball about as closely (though with
significantly less annoyance) as I follow the OJ trial.
My sweet sixteen...
Penn
Cincy
Maryland
Oklahoma St.
U Conn
Villanova
Wake Forest
Xavier
Stanford
Utah
Georgia Tech
Purdue
Iowa State
Brigham Young
Ohio U
Southern
OK, I admit it, I largely picked the teams I like (or at least don't
dislike) from previous entries... B^)
Joe
|
| 14.927 | t-shirt to the winner | CNTROL::CHILDS | Big Brother >> John Q. Public | Fri Feb 10 1995 12:20 | 5 |
|
yes till the end of the day which for me should be 5:00.........
mike
|
| 14.928 | My Sweet 16 | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Fri Feb 10 1995 12:23 | 7 |
| Like I know what I'm talking about...
UMass Carolina Maryland Michigan State
UConn Missouri Kansas Kentucky
Arizona Georgia Tech Wake Forest Purdue
UCLA Oaklahoma State Cincinatti Virginia
|
| 14.929 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Feb 10 1995 13:50 | 7 |
| > Southern
Is this Southern <something>, like Southern Cal, Southern Miss, etc. ?
Or is it <something> Southern, like Texas Southern or Georgia Southern ?
[Southern University of Baton Rouge is currently in 5th place in the SWAC
behind Texas Southern, Mississippi Valley State, Jackson State, and
Alabama State. They are having a down year, and won't get to the NCAA's.]
|
| 14.930 | | MKFSA::LONG | Close, but no cigar! | Fri Feb 10 1995 14:39 | 13 |
| I'm with Joe...(I can't even drink orange juice anymore!)
Missouri UConn Georgia Tech Syracuse
Arizona Wisconsin UCLA North Carolina
Kansas Virginia Wake Forest Michigan State
Kentucky Cincinnati Oklahoma State UMass
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.
billl
|
| 14.931 | the envelope please! | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Fri Feb 10 1995 14:39 | 23 |
| Unfortunately I don't have a poll with me but I'll give it a go
In no particular order 8*)
UCONN
UCLA
Arizona
Kansas
Arkansas
North Carolina
Syracuse
Villanova
Missouri
Kentucky
Mich St.
Maryland
OK State
Iowa State
Stanford
Wake Forest
Atlantic 10 - fahgetaboutit
IMJIMBO
|
| 14.932 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Feb 10 1995 17:09 | 17 |
|
>> Southern
> Is this Southern <something>, like Southern Cal, Southern Miss, etc. ?
> Or is it <something> Southern, like Texas Southern or Georgia Southern ?
> [Southern University of Baton Rouge is currently in 5th place in the SWAC
> behind Texas Southern, Mississippi Valley State, Jackson State, and
> Alabama State. They are having a down year, and won't get to the NCAA's.]
Southern University.
I remember them winning a game in the tournament at some point during
the past ten years, couldn't find a 16th team that I liked, and decided
that Southern U had a heck of a lot better chance than Cornell.
Joe
|
| 14.933 | My feeble attemmpt | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Fri Feb 10 1995 17:19 | 5 |
| Arizona St Arkansas Kansas Kentucky
Maryland Michigan St Mississippi St No Carolina
Oklahoma St Purdue UCLA UConn
UMass Wake Forest Indiana Syracuse
|
| 14.934 | big year for the PAC-10 | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Fri Feb 10 1995 17:33 | 4 |
| 14.935 | What the hey | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Testudo is still grounded! | Fri Feb 10 1995 18:50 | 19 |
| Maryland
UNC
Wake Forest
Ga Tech
Kansas
UMass
UConn
Kentucky
Miss St.
UCLA
Villanova
Arizona
Arizona St.
Mississippi St.
Arkansas
Stanford
UMDan
|
| 14.936 | mostly midwest and western teams this year | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | | Fri Feb 10 1995 19:47 | 20 |
| Kentucky
Arkansas
Kansas
Minnesota
North Carolina
Missouri
Purdue
Arizona
Arizona St.
Penn
Connecticut
Maryland
Stanford
OK St.
UCLA
Syracuse
Spud
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| 14.937 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Big Brother >> John Q. Public | Fri Feb 10 1995 19:59 | 3 |
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CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 14.938 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin, LKG1-3/L6 | Fri Feb 10 1995 20:02 | 21 |
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I'll (foolishly) take a crack at it....
North Carolina
Umass
Uconn
Kansas
Sorryexcuse
Villanova
Penn
Oklahoma St.
Maryland
Mich. St.
Minnesota
St. Bonnies
UCLA
Arizona
Kentucky
Miss St.
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| 14.939 | binary picks | CNTROL::CHILDS | Big Brother >> John Q. Public | Tue Feb 14 1995 17:15 | 71 |
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PLAYER |U|A|U|K|K|U|C|N|M|M|O|P|A|A|U|M|M|S|G|W|V|B|C|M|P|H|F|W|I|I|O|
|M|R|N|A|E|C|U|O|S|A|K|E|Z|Z|C|I|I|T|T|A|I|A|I|L|U|O|L|K|N|W|T|
|A|K|C|N|N|O|S|V|U|R|L|N| |S|L|N|S|N| |K|R|M|N|O|R|Y|A|T|D|A|H|
|S| | | |T|N|E|A| |Y|S|N| |T|A|N|S|D| |E|G|A|N|U|D|A| |Y| |S|R|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Ball |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|3|
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=Bob= |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boss |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Billlllllllll |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Billthe |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
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Clark Burrows |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|
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MikeyC |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cadzilla |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|
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Chappy |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
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Polly Duprez |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Garbarino |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Gronowski |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Garry |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|4|
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Jim Halpin |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Haas |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken Honer |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Huber |0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|5|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Heiser |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IMJimbo |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|
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Nazz |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|
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Vin Silvestri |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
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Spud |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Lyndon Wilkes |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Dan Zogran |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Other selections :
Kevin Ball : Tulane, Memphis and Clemson
Billlllll : Wisconsin
MikeyC : Ohio U
Cadzilla : TCU
Polly Dupez : Memphis
Tom Garry : Texas Tech, Utah, Xavier and New Mexico St.
Jim Halpin : St Bonnies
Joe Huber : Xavier, Utah, Brigham Young, Ohio U and Southern
Nazz : Tulane
If I gour name wrong off elf please let me know or if I screwed up your picks
please let me know.
mike
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| 14.940 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Tue Feb 14 1995 17:19 | 11 |
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Mike,
I think you've got the wrong Duprez. Polly is my wife - she's occasionally
will have hoops on as background noise, but that's about it. I'm Roland.
Serves me right for not introducing myself in Introductions. :-)
Nice digging to find the first name of a Duprez, though...
Roland
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| 14.941 | No Bee-Guessen - whew,- And Polly had me worried too | AKOCOA::BREEN | That is enough for me and for thee | Tue Feb 14 1995 17:48 | 1 |
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| 14.942 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Feb 14 1995 18:25 | 2 |
| You missed my picks (.893). I wouldn't mention it except I'm
gonna win this thing.
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| 14.943 | corrections | CNTROL::CHILDS | Big Brother >> John Q. Public | Tue Feb 14 1995 19:25 | 74 |
| Sorry Rick, when I extracted your picks I was working out of a subdirectory.
Roland, when I elfed it had you as user name Dupez_R that's why I assumed
Polly.
here's the updated version:
PLAYER |U|A|U|K|K|U|C|N|M|M|O|P|A|A|U|M|M|S|G|W|V|B|C|M|P|H|F|W|I|I|O|
|M|R|N|A|E|C|U|O|S|A|K|E|Z|Z|C|I|I|T|T|A|I|A|I|L|U|O|L|K|N|W|T|
|A|K|C|N|N|O|S|V|U|R|L|N| |S|L|N|S|N| |K|R|M|N|O|R|Y|A|T|D|A|H|
|S| | | |T|N|E|A| |Y|S|N| |T|A|N|S|D| |E|G|A|N|U|D|A| |Y| |S|R|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Ball |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|3|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
=Bob= |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boss |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Billlllllllll |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Billthe |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clark Burrows |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MikeyC |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cadzilla |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chappy |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roland Duprez |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Garbarino |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Gronowski |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Garry |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|4|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Halpin |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Haas |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken Honer |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Huber |0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|5|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Heiser |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IMJimbo |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|
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Nazz |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Rollins |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|2|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vin Silvestri |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spud |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lyndon Wilkes |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan Zogran |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Other selections :
Kevin Ball : Tulane, Memphis and Clemson
Billlllll : Wisconsin
MikeyC : Ohio U
Cadzilla : TCU
Polly Dupez : Memphis
Tom Garry : Texas Tech, Utah, Xavier and New Mexico St.
Jim Halpin : St Bonnies
Joe Huber : Xavier, Utah, Brigham Young, Ohio U and Southern
Nazz : Tulane
Rick Rollins: Santa Clara Brigham Young
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| 14.944 | Sorry I was just curious about numbers/team | AKOCOA::BREEN | That is enough for me and for thee | Tue Feb 14 1995 19:30 | 14 |
| Here are the picks per team (totals). This is out of 24, no team was
unanimous, this makes '95 unusual in itself.
| U| A| U| K| K| U| C| N| M| M| O| P| A| A| U| M| M| S| G| W| V| B| C| M| P
| M| R| N| A| E| C| U| O| S| A| K| E| Z| Z| C| I| I| T| T| A| I| A| I| L| U
| A| K| C| N| N| O| S| V| U| R| L| N| | S| L| N| S| N| | K| R| M| N| O| R
| S| | | | T| N| E| A| | Y| S| N| | T| A| N| S| D| | E| G| A| N| U| D
20 18 23 23 23 22 14 11 20 22 16 3 16 6 23 3 7 6 11 15 5 7 7 12 14
| H| F| W| I| I| O|
| O| L| K| N| W| T|
| Y| A| T| D| A| H|
| A| | Y| | S| R|
4 3 2 5 4 18
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| 14.945 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Feb 15 1995 00:30 | 218 |
| Division I Conferences, Through February 14, 1995
American West Conference Atlantic Coast Conference
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Southern Utah 2- 0 11-10 North Carolina 9- 2 19- 2
Cal State-Sacramento 2- 1 6-15 Maryland 9- 2 19- 4
Cal State-Northridge 2- 1 5-15 Virginia 8- 3 16- 6
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 0- 4 1-21 Wake Forest 6- 4 15- 5
Georgia Tech 6- 5 15- 8
Florida State 4- 7 11- 9
Clemson 3- 7 13- 7
North Carolina State 2- 8 10-10
Duke 1-10 11-12
Atlantic Ten Conference Big East Conference
----------------------- -------------------
Massachusetts 9- 1 18- 2 Connecticut 12- 0 19- 1
George Washington 8- 4 15- 9 Syracuse 10- 2 17- 4
St.Joseph's 7- 5 14- 8 Villanova 10- 2 17- 5
St.Bonaventure 7- 5 15- 9 Georgetown 7- 5 14- 6
Temple 6- 5 12- 7 Seton Hall 6- 7 15- 8
West Virginia 5- 6 11- 9 Miami (Florida) 6- 7 11- 9
Rutgers 4- 6 9-11 Providence 5- 8 13- 8
Duquesne 5- 8 8-13 St.John's 3-10 10-11
Rhode Island 0-11 4-16 Boston College 2-10 8-12
Pittsburgh 1-11 5-15
Big Eight Conference Big Sky Conference
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Kansas 7- 2 18- 3 Idaho State 7- 2 16- 4
Missouri 7- 2 18- 3 Weber State 7- 2 14- 7
Oklahoma State 6- 2 16- 7 Montana 6- 3 15- 7
Oklahoma 4- 4 17- 6 Boise State 5- 4 15- 6
Iowa State 4- 5 18- 6 Montana State 4- 5 16- 6
Nebraska 3- 5 16- 7 Idaho 3- 6 9-12
Colorado 2- 7 11- 9 Northern Arizona 3- 6 6-14
Kansas State 2- 8 11-11 Eastern Washington 1- 8 4-16
Big South Conference Big Ten Conference
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No.Carolina-Greensboro 11- 1 18- 4 Michigan State 9- 2 17- 3
Charleston Southern 9- 3 13- 9 Minnesota 7- 3 16- 6
Radford 8- 5 14- 9 Purdue 7- 3 16- 6
Maryland-Baltimore County 7- 5 10-12 Illinois 7- 4 16- 7
North Carolina-Asheville 6- 6 10-12 Michigan 7- 4 13-10
Towson State 4- 8 10-11 Indiana 6- 5 14- 9
Liberty 4- 8 8-14 Wisconsin 5- 5 11- 8
Winthrop 3- 9 6-16 Penn State 5- 6 13- 7
Coastal Carolina 3-10 6-17 Iowa 4- 7 14- 9
Northwestern 1-10 5-15
Ohio State 1-10 5-16
Big West Conference Colonial Athletic Association
------------------- -----------------------------
Utah State 10- 3 16- 5 Old Dominion 10- 1 15-10
Long Beach State 9- 3 13- 6 James Madison 8- 2 13- 7
New Mexico State 8- 3 17- 7 North Carolina-Wilmington 8- 3 14- 9
Nevada 8- 5 12- 9 East Carolina 5- 5 15- 8
Pacific 7- 5 12- 8 William and Mary 4- 5 6-14
Cal-Santa Barbara 6- 6 11- 9 American 4- 6 5-17
Nevada-Las Vegas 5- 6 9-10 George Mason 1- 9 6-16
Cal-Irvine 4- 9 8-12 Richmond 1-10 5-18
Cal State-Fullerton 4- 9 6-15
San Jose State 0-12 1-19
Great Midwest Conference Ivy League
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Memphis 5- 2 16- 7 Pennsylvania 7- 0 15- 3
St.Louis 6- 3 16- 5 Dartmouth 6- 2 9-11
Cincinnati 6- 3 16- 8 Brown 5- 3 10-10
DePaul 4- 4 13- 7 Princeton 4- 3 10- 9
Marquette 3- 4 11- 9 Yale 4- 4 8-11
Alabama-Birmingham 3- 5 11-12 Cornell 3- 5 8-12
Dayton 0- 6 7-13 Harvard 2- 6 4-16
Columbia 0- 8 3-17
Metro Conference Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
---------------- ----------------------------------
North Carolina-Charlotte 6- 3 16- 5 Manhattan 9- 1 20- 2
Louisville 6- 4 15- 9 St.Peter's 9- 1 15- 7
Tulane 4- 3 17- 6 Canisius 7- 3 14-10
Southern Mississippi 4- 4 13- 8 Fairfield 5- 6 11-12
Virginia Tech 3- 4 17- 6 Iona 3- 6 7-14
South Florida 3- 4 13- 7 Siena 3- 7 6-16
Virginia Commonwealth 2- 6 15-10 Loyola (Maryland) 2- 7 6-15
Niagara 1- 8 4-20
Mid-American Conference Mid Continent Conference
----------------------- ------------------------
Miami (Ohio) 11- 1 16- 4 Valparaiso 11- 2 15- 6
Eastern Michigan 9- 3 15- 5 Buffalo 9- 5 14- 8
Ohio 8- 4 17- 7 Youngstown State 8- 5 15- 6
Bowling Green State 8- 4 14- 6 Troy State 8- 5 10-11
Toledo 7- 5 13- 7 Western Illinois 7- 5 13- 7
Ball State 7- 5 12- 8 Eastern Illinois 8- 6 13-10
Western Michigan 5- 7 10-10 Central Connecticut State 5- 7 7-13
Akron 3- 9 7-13 Missouri-Kansas City 4- 9 4-17
Kent 2-10 5-15 Chicago State 4-10 4-18
Central Michigan 0-12 3-17 Northeastern Illinois 2-12 4-17
Mideastern Athletic Conference Midwestern Conference
------------------------------ ---------------------
Coppin State 11- 1 14- 8 Xavier (Ohio) 11- 0 19- 3
South Carolina State 8- 4 10-11 Illinois-Chicago 8- 3 14- 7
North Carolina A&T 8- 4 9-14 Wisconsin-Green Bay 7- 3 15- 6
Howard 8- 5 9-14 Butler 8- 4 14- 8
Bethune-Cookman 7- 6 9-13 LaSalle 6- 4 12-10
Maryland-Eastern Shore 6- 7 10-13 Detroit Mercy 6- 4 9-12
Morgan State 4- 9 4-19 Northern Illinois 5- 6 15- 7
Delaware State 3-10 6-17 Wright State 4- 6 8-14
Florida A&M 1-12 4-19 Cleveland State 2- 9 9-14
Loyola (Illinois) 1-10 4-17
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 1-10 2-19
Missouri Valley Conference Northeast Conference
-------------------------- --------------------
Southern Illinois 10- 3 17- 6 Rider 10- 3 13- 8
Tulsa 10- 3 15- 6 Marist 9- 3 13- 7
Illinois State 9- 4 14-10 Mount St. Mary's 9- 4 11-10
Bradley 9- 5 15- 7 Fairleigh Dickinson 8- 4 12- 8
Evansville 8- 6 14- 7 Monmouth 8- 4 10-10
Southwest Missouri State 7- 6 14- 6 Long Island 6- 7 8-13
Drake 6- 7 9-12 Wagner 5- 7 6-14
Wichita State 5- 8 11- 9 St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 4- 9 8-13
Northern Iowa 4-10 8-16 St.Francis (New York) 3-10 7-14
Creighton 3-10 6-15 Robert Morris 1-12 3-18
North Atlantic Conference Ohio Valley Conference
------------------------- ----------------------
Drexel 9- 2 16- 5 Tennessee State 11- 3 17- 5
Northeastern 8- 3 14- 7 Murray State 8- 5 15- 8
New Hampshire 7- 4 14- 7 Morehead State 8- 5 13- 9
Vermont 6- 5 13- 8 Tennessee Tech 7- 5 11-11
Hartford 6- 5 10-11 Austin Peay State 6- 5 9-12
Delaware 4- 7 9-12 Eastern Kentucky 6- 7 8-15
Hofstra 5- 9 8-15 Southeast Missouri State 5- 8 10-12
Boston University 3- 7 10-13 Middle Tennessee State 3- 9 9-12
Maine 2- 8 7-13 Tennessee-Martin 2- 9 4-18
Pacific Ten Conference Patriot League
---------------------- --------------
UCLA 9- 2 16- 2 Bucknell 10- 1 12-11
Arizona 8- 3 18- 5 Colgate 8- 3 11-12
Arizona State 8- 3 18- 5 Navy 7- 4 15- 8
Oregon 6- 4 14- 5 Holy Cross 6- 5 11-11
Stanford 6- 5 15- 5 Fordham 5- 6 8-13
Washington State 6- 5 11- 8 Army 4- 7 11-11
California 4- 7 12- 8 Lehigh 4- 7 9-13
Oregon State 3- 7 6-13 Lafayette 0-11 2-21
Southern California 2- 9 7-14
Washington 2- 9 6-13
Southeastern Conference Southern Conference
----------------------- -------------------
Kentucky 9- 1 17- 3 Tennessee-Chattanooga 8- 3 13- 9
Florida 6- 4 12- 7 East Tennessee State 7- 3 11-11
Georgia 5- 5 14- 6 Marshall 7- 4 14- 8
Vanderbilt 4- 6 10-10 Davidson 5- 5 12-10
South Carolina 3- 8 7-13 Western Carolina 5- 5 9-12
Tennessee 2- 9 8-12 Furman 5- 6 9-14
The Citadel 4- 5 9-11
Alabama 7- 3 17- 5 Virginia Military 4- 6 6-14
Mississippi State 7- 3 15- 5 Georgia Southern 3- 7 7-15
Arkansas 7- 4 19- 5 Appalachian State 3- 7 6-16
Louisiana State 5- 5 11- 9
Auburn 5- 6 12- 8
Mississippi 2- 8 7-13
Southland Conference Southwestern Athletic Conference
-------------------- --------------------------------
Nicholls State 13- 1 17- 5 Texas Southern 8- 2 16- 6
North Texas 8- 4 13- 7 Mississippi Valley State 8- 3 14- 9
Northeast Louisiana 8- 5 9-15 Alabama State 7- 3 8-12
Southwest Texas State 7- 6 12- 8 Jackson State 6- 5 9-16
Texas-San Antonio 7- 6 10-11 Southern 5- 6 11- 9
Stephen F. Austin State 6- 6 9-10 Alcorn State 4- 7 7-15
Northwestern State 6- 7 11-10 Grambling State 3- 8 8-15
McNeese State 4- 9 7-13 Prairie View A&M 2- 9 3-18
Texas-Arlington 3- 9 6-14
Sam Houston State 2-11 5-16
Southwest Conference Sun Belt Conference
-------------------- -------------------
Texas 7- 2 15- 5 Western Kentucky 13- 1 17- 3
Texas Tech 7- 2 13- 7 Arkansas-Little Rock 8- 5 14- 7
Texas Christian 6- 3 14- 7 New Orleans 8- 5 14-10
Rice 5- 4 10-10 Jacksonville 8- 6 14- 8
Texas A&M 4- 5 11-13 Louisiana Tech 8- 6 13- 9
Houston 4- 5 7-14 South Alabama 7- 7 9-13
Southern Methodist 2- 7 5-15 Lamar 5- 8 10-11
Baylor 1- 8 7-15 Texas-Pan American 5- 8 8-13
Southwestern Louisiana 3-10 5-17
Arkansas State 2-11 6-15
Trans America Athletic Conference Western Athletic Conference
--------------------------------- ---------------------------
College of Charleston 12- 1 19- 5 Brigham Young 11- 2 20- 5
Samford 10- 3 15- 8 Utah 10- 3 19- 5
Stetson 9- 3 13- 9 Texas-El Paso 9- 3 15- 6
Southeastern Louisiana 7- 6 11-12 Wyoming 8- 5 12-10
Mercer 6- 6 11-11 Colorado State 6- 7 14- 9
Georgia State 5- 7 9-13 Hawaii 5- 7 11- 9
Central Florida 5- 8 8-14 Fresno State 5- 8 10-11
Centenary 4- 9 7-15 New Mexico 4- 8 9-13
Campbell 3- 9 7-14 Air Force 3-10 7-15
Florida International 2-11 5-17 San Diego State 2-10 7-13
Florida Atlantic 0- 0 7-14
West Coast Conference
---------------------
Santa Clara 10- 1 19- 4
St.Mary's 8- 3 14- 8
Portland 7- 3 16- 6
Gonzaga 4- 6 15- 7
San Diego 4- 6 9-12
Loyola Marymount 3- 7 11-11
Pepperdine 3- 7 7-15
San Fransisco 2- 8 8-15
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| 14.946 | ;^) | MKFSA::LONG | The Igloo is rockin'! | Wed Feb 15 1995 11:19 | 5 |
| Where was this last week, when I needed it for my sweet16 picks?
billl
|
| 14.947 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Feb 15 1995 15:19 | 42 |
| A potential NCAA bracketing. I have listed seedings on the left,
and RPI rating (as of 2-12) in paranthesis.
East:
#1 Connecticut 20-1 (4) vs #16 Rider 14-8 (145)
#8 Cincinnati 16-8 (26) vs #9 Alabama 17-5 (39)
#4 Wake Forest 15-5 (15) vs #13 Pennsylvania 15-4 (71)
#5 Illinois 16-7 (21) vs #12 Miami (Ohio) 16-4 (54)
#2 Massachusetts 18-3 (3) vs #15 Coppin State 14-8 (138)
#7 Indiana 15-9 (23) vs #10 Tulane 17-6 (37)
#3 Missouri 18-3 (7) vs #14 Manhattan 21-2 (94)
#6 Oregon 14-5 (16) vs #11 Florida State 11-9 (28)
Southeast:
#1 North Carolina 19-2 (1) vs #16 Bucknell 12-11 (199)
#8 North Carolina-Charlotte 16-5 (29) vs #9 Texas 15-5 (40)
#4 Oklahoma State 16-7 (18) vs #13 George Washington 16-9 (61)
#5 Arizona State 18-5 (25) vs #12 Xavier (Ohio) 19-3 (47)
#2 Kentucky 17-4 (8) vs #15 Tennessee State 17-5 (133)
#7 Georgia Tech 15-8 (33) vs #10 Nebraska 16-8 (35)
#3 Villanova 18-5 (11) vs #14 Nicholls State 17-5 (90)
#6 Minnesota 16-6 (31) vs #11 St.Louis 16-5 (44)
Midwest:
#1 Kansas 19-3 (2) vs #16 Samford 15-8 (182)
#8 Tulsa 16-6 (24) vs #9 Memphis 16-7 (41)
#4 Mississippi State 16-5 (13) vs #13 Georgetown 14-7 (55)
#5 Virginia 16-6 (22) vs #12 Western Kentucky 17-3 (56)
#2 Michigan State 17-3 (6) vs #15 Old Dominion 15-10 (96)
#7 Louisville 15-9 (21) vs #10 Utah 19-5 (43)
#3 Arizona 18-5 (14) vs #14 Drexel 16-5 (80)
#6 Oklahoma 17-6 (27) vs #11 Florida 12-7 (34)
West:
#1 Maryland 19-4 (5) vs #16 Tennessee-Chattanooga 13-9 (156)
#8 Utah State 16-5 (32) vs #9 Stanford 15-5 (42)
#4 Syracuse 17-5 (11) vs #13 Ohio 17-7 (51)
#5 Iowa State 18-6 (19) vs #12 Southern Illinois 17-6 (30)
#2 UCLA 16-2 (12) vs #15 Texas Southern 16-6 (135)
#7 Purdue 16-6 (36) vs #10 Santa Clara 19-4 (38)
#3 Arkansas 19-5 (9) vs #14 Idaho State 16-4 (89)
#6 Brigham Young 20-5 (20) vs #11 Virginia Tech 17-6 (30)
|
| 14.948 | Gotta include all eligible conferences | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Wed Feb 15 1995 18:02 | 11 |
| Couple of nites in your potential bracket. You left out four
conferences that receive automatic bids: the Mid Continent Conference
(Valparaiso the likely champ), the Big South (NC-Greensboro leads), the
Northeast Conference (Rider is the best of a weak group), and the
Big West (both Utah State and New Mexico State sure to go).
That means five of your at large teams must be eliminated. I suggest
Florida State, Georgetown, Louisville, Ohio U, and Nebraska will all
be in the NIT field.
NAZZ
|
| 14.949 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Feb 15 1995 18:11 | 5 |
| > Florida State, Georgetown, Louisville, Ohio U, and Nebraska will all
> be in the NIT field.
If true, goes to prove how little early-season success (Ohio in preseason
NIT) gets you.
|
| 14.950 | | METSNY::francus | There is no joy in Mudville | Wed Feb 15 1995 18:25 | 3 |
| And Penn will be seeded higher than #13.
The Crazy Met
|
| 14.951 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Feb 15 1995 19:38 | 29 |
| > Couple of nites in your potential bracket. You left out four
> conferences that receive automatic bids: the Mid Continent Conference
> (Valparaiso the likely champ), the Big South (NC-Greensboro leads), the
> Northeast Conference (Rider is the best of a weak group), and the
> Big West (both Utah State and New Mexico State sure to go).
Actually, my understanding is that neither the Mid Continent nor
the Big South qualify to send their conference champs to the tourney
(have to have at least x amt of teams for y amt of years consecutively;
it's the reason the Big South threaten to sue Campbell for moving to the
TAAC). In fact, I verified it a couple of weeks ago in one of these
college bball rags.
I picked Rider in there against UConn.
If I were doing the picking, I'd pick NMSU and dump FSU and Florida.
However, NMSU has a poor RPI, and I suspect that will be the reason
that they do not go, unless they win the Big West title.
I agree that FSU doesn't deserve to go, but they have an RPI over 30.
If they end up at least 2 games over .500, and win at least one more
game against an NCAA team (UVa or Tech), they will go, mark my words.
Similar situation for Louisville and Nebraska. And that's the reason
Penn won't be seeded too much higher than 13th. They have an RPI that's
fairly low. They may get a #12 seed, but haven't done that well out
of the conference (one big win, against Michigan, doesn't look so hot).
Ohio is probably the biggest question mark in my list.
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| 14.952 | already dated | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Tue Feb 21 1995 13:48 | 26 |
| CNN/USA Today/Coaches: AP
1. Kansas 1. Kansas
2. No Carolina 2. UCLA
3. UCLA 3. No Carolina
4. Kentucky 4. Connecticut
5. Connecticut 5. Massachusetts
6. Massachusetts 6. Kentucky
7. Maryland 7. Maryland
8. Arkansas 8. Arkansas
9. Arizona 9. Villanova
10. Michigan St 10. Wake Forest
11. Villanova 11. Virginia
12. Wake Forest 12. Michigan St
13. Virginia 13. Arizona
14. Arizona St 14. Missouri
15. Missouri 15. Arizona St
16. Syracuse 16. Mississippi St
17. Oklahoma St 17. Syracuse
18. Stanford 18. Oklahoma St
19. Mississippi St 19. Stanford
20. Purdue 20. Alabama
21. Minnesota 21. Purdue
22. Georgia Tech 22. Minnesota
23. Oregon 23. Iowa St
24. Iowa St 24. Georgia Tech
25. Alabama 25. Oklahoma
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| 14.953 | | MKFSA::LONG | The Igloo is rockin'! | Tue Feb 21 1995 13:51 | 6 |
| Does anyone know how my 'sweet sixteen dark horse', Wisconsin
is doing? I kinda get the impression they never left the barn,
let alone the starting gate.
billl
|
| 14.954 | Miracle to get into the NCAAs at this point... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Peter Angelos, man of integrity | Tue Feb 21 1995 13:53 | 10 |
|
> Does anyone know how my 'sweet sixteen dark horse', Wisconsin
> is doing? I kinda get the impression they never left the barn,
> let alone the starting gate.
Penn St. beat them this past weekend. They're 6-6 in the Big-10
and going nowhere fast...
glenn
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| 14.955 | not too good | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Tue Feb 21 1995 13:54 | 6 |
| As of yesterday, they were 6-6 in the Bigwhatever and 12-9 overall. They
dint get any votes in either of the polls.
FWIW, the Lady Badgers (ugh!) were 26th in the Women's poll.
TTom
|
| 14.956 | Not that it really matters in February... | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Tue Feb 21 1995 14:04 | 1 |
| Yabut who is going to be number one now that Kansas got whupped? Da Broons?
|
| 14.957 | What Happened??? | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Tue Feb 21 1995 14:56 | 2 |
| My beloved Badgers have to be the biggest disapointment this
year!
|
| 14.958 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Feb 21 1995 15:57 | 6 |
| > My beloved Badgers have to be the biggest disapointment this
> year!
Rashard shoulda booked this past summer. He let Stu talk him into
staying, then Stu flies the coop and Rashard's college career stagnates,
as he feared it would when he originally wanted to leave.
|
| 14.959 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Cal Ripken, man of integrity | Tue Feb 21 1995 16:18 | 13 |
|
> Rashard shoulda booked this past summer. He let Stu talk him into
> staying, then Stu flies the coop and Rashard's college career stagnates,
> as he feared it would when he originally wanted to leave.
I did see Wisconsin on ESPN when Penn St beat them the first time
around, in Madison. They were the sloppiest, most disorganized team
I've seen all year. Lots of standing around, one-on-one isolation,
that kind of thing. This team looks like it misses Jackson badly.
glenn
|
| 14.960 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Tue Feb 21 1995 17:38 | 12 |
|
re .952
Two things about the poll:
1) When was the last time that the Big 10 had three teams in the Top 25
and neither Indiana, Michigan or OSU was one of them?
2) UCLA #2? If UCLA makes the Final Four, I'll come to work in a prom
dress.
|
| 14.961 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Feb 21 1995 17:51 | 7 |
| > <<< Note 14.960 by MSBCS::BRYDIE "I need somebody to shove!" >>>
>
> 2) UCLA #2? If UCLA makes the Final Four, I'll come to work in a prom
> dress.
>
Good thing I live in Georgia; it may make the news, however.
|
| 14.962 | A Chiffon may look better | SHRMSG::GALVIN | knockemdownspinemrounheygobowling | Tue Feb 21 1995 18:23 | 4 |
| Has anyone ever seen Tommy in a prom dress? He may be hopin for
Da Broons to make the final 4.
RTG
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| 14.963 | a blue sequined affair! | MKFSA::LONG | The Igloo is rockin'! | Tue Feb 21 1995 21:47 | 5 |
| Now JaKe I could see coming to work in a prom dress, complete with
a curly blonde wig, but Tommy Brydie.......
billl
|
| 14.964 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Wed Feb 22 1995 14:03 | 6 |
| Wow, Tommy would you be touring Hudson that day by any chance!!!
UCLA has a very good shot to make it, they are the best team in
the west and if the comm. gives them a weak #2, oh let's say
UMASS for example, they could be visiting Washington in April
Jimbo
|
| 14.965 | player info help? | ANGLIN::WIERSBECK | | Wed Feb 22 1995 14:28 | 10 |
| I'm wondering if someone could help me out with this. There's a kid
(freshman) who's been the starting center for UWV this year. His name
is Brent Solheim and he went to my HS in Minnesota. I was just
wondering how he has been doing this year. He's really not that big,
6'7" or so. I guess they nearly knocked off UMASS recently.
Thanks in advance,
Spud
|
| 14.966 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | That is enough for me and for thee | Wed Feb 22 1995 14:43 | 8 |
| UMass is far too physical for UCLA, they could beat them at UCLA.
Conn. could be beaten by them but UCLA has to worry about the #8-9
seeds like maybe Texas or Georgetown and when it gets down to 16 teams
that's half the number of teams that can beat them.
Its much harder for non-contact league/teams to play contact than vv;
UMass can do both.
|
| 14.967 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Kittles >> Allen | Wed Feb 22 1995 14:59 | 8 |
|
is there anything worst in all of college basketball than Dick Vitale
calling a UNC game? Nope. Didn't think so...
congrats to the Hoos for burying them. too bad I went out to supper and
had to miss Dicky eating crow........
mike
|
| 14.968 | Thanks 'Nova! | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Wed Feb 22 1995 17:23 | 7 |
| Jimbo, you've just gotta give UMass a ribbing, doncha???
After your UMass related replies, I have to admit I did
smile when UConn got buried AT HOME against Villanova!!
And it was all due to you!!
Tony
|
| 14.969 | Conference & Overall Records, with 2/19 RPI Rating | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Feb 22 1995 18:04 | 217 |
| American West Conference Atlantic Coast Conference
------------------------ -------------------------
Southern Utah 3- 0 12-10 221 North Carolina 10- 3 20- 3 2
Cal State-Northridge 3- 1 6-16 270 Virginia 10- 3 18- 6 15
Cal State-Sacramento 2- 2 6-17 281 Maryland 9- 3 20- 5 6
Cal Poly-SLO 0- 5 1-22 302 Wake Forest 8- 4 17- 5 12
Georgia Tech 6- 6 16- 9 44
Florida State 5- 8 12-11 28
North Carolina State 4- 8 12-10 63
Clemson 3- 9 13- 9 76
Duke 1-12 11-14 57
Atlantic Ten Conference Big East Conference
----------------------- -------------------
Massachusetts 10- 2 20- 3 4 Connecticut 13- 1 20- 2 3
George Washington 9- 4 17-10 55 Villanova 12- 3 19- 6 7
St.Bonaventure 9- 5 17- 9 74 Syracuse 10- 4 17- 6 14
Temple 7- 5 14- 8 61 Georgetown 9- 6 16- 7 51
St.Joseph's 7- 6 14- 9 60 Seton Hall 7- 7 16- 8 62
Rutgers 5- 7 10-12 125 Miami (Florida) 6- 8 11-10 111
West Virginia 5- 8 11-11 112 Providence 5- 9 13- 9 80
Duquesne 5- 9 8-15 158 St.John's 4-10 11-11 83
Rhode Island 1-12 5-17 187 Pittsburgh 3-11 7-15 115
Boston College 2-12 8-14 150
Big Eight Conference Big Sky Conference
-------------------- ------------------
Oklahoma State 8- 2 18- 7 16 Weber State 9- 2 16- 7 68
Kansas 9- 3 20- 4 1 Montana 7- 3 16- 7 86
Missouri 7- 3 18- 4 13 Idaho State 7- 4 16- 6 113
Oklahoma 7- 4 20- 6 18 Boise State 6- 5 16- 7 130
Iowa State 5- 6 19- 7 24 Montana State 4- 6 16- 7 107
Nebraska 3- 7 16- 9 42 Idaho 4- 6 10-12 180
Colorado 2- 9 11-11 82 Northern Arizona 4- 7 7-15 196
Kansas State 2- 9 11-12 59 Eastern Washington 1- 9 4-17 287
Big South Conference Big Ten Conference
-------------------- ------------------
UNC-Greensboro 13- 2 20- 5 137 Michigan State 10- 3 18- 4 8
Charleston Southern 11- 3 15- 9 151 Purdue 9- 3 18- 6 37
UM-Baltimore County 9- 5 12-12 174 Minnesota 8- 4 17- 7 26
Radford 9- 6 15-10 194 Michigan 8- 4 14-10 49
UNC-Asheville 7- 7 11-13 208 Illinois 7- 5 16- 8 20
Liberty 6- 9 10-15 200 Indiana 7- 6 15-10 35
Towson State 4-10 10-13 177 Wisconsin 6- 6 12- 9 78
Winthrop 3-11 6-18 261 Iowa 6- 7 16- 9 75
Coastal Carolina 3-12 6-19 246 Penn State 6- 7 14- 8 70
Northwestern 1-12 5-17 224
Ohio State 1-12 5-18 197
Big West Conference Colonial Athletic Association
------------------- -----------------------------
Utah State 12- 3 18- 5 30 Old Dominion 11- 2 16-11 101
Long Beach State 11- 3 15- 7 65 UNC-Wilmington 10- 3 16- 9 135
New Mexico State 10- 4 19- 7 53 James Madison 9- 3 14- 9 140
Nevada 9- 6 13-10 99 East Carolina 6- 7 16-10 188
Pacific 8- 6 13- 9 131 William and Mary 5- 7 7-16 240
Cal-Santa Barbara 6- 8 11-11 159 American 5- 7 6-18 260
Nevada-Las Vegas 5- 9 9-13 156 George Mason 2- 9 7-16 228
Cal-Irvine 5-10 9-13 146 Richmond 1-11 5-19 252
Cal State-Fullerton 5-10 7-16 198
San Jose State 1-13 2-20 267
Great Midwest Conference Ivy League
------------------------ ----------
Memphis 7- 2 19- 7 38 Pennsylvania 9- 0 17- 4 89
Cincinnati 6- 3 17- 9 22 Brown 7- 3 12-10 205
St.Louis 6- 4 17- 6 56 Princeton 6- 3 12- 9 161
DePaul 5- 4 14- 7 47 Dartmouth 6- 4 9-13 227
Marquette 4- 5 12-10 94 Cornell 4- 6 9-13 272
Alabama-Birmingham 3- 6 12-13 118 Yale 4- 6 8-13 286
Dayton 0- 7 7-14 185 Harvard 2- 8 4-18 290
Columbia 1- 9 4-18 297
Metro Conference Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
---------------- ----------------------------------
UNC-Charlotte 8- 3 18- 5 19 Manhattan 12- 1 23- 2 67
Southern Mississippi 6- 4 15- 8 41 St.Peter's 9- 3 15- 9 119
Tulane 5- 4 19- 7 32 Canisius 8- 4 15-11 93
Louisville 6- 5 15-11 31 Fairfield 5- 7 11-13 193
Virginia Tech 4- 5 18- 7 27 Iona 5- 7 9-15 254
South Florida 3- 6 13- 9 91 Loyola (Maryland) 4- 7 8-15 213
VA Commonwealth 2- 7 15-11 94 Siena 4- 8 7-17 255
Niagara 1-11 4-23 276
Mid-American Conference Mid Continent Conference
----------------------- ------------------------
Miami (Ohio) 13- 1 18- 4 58 Valparaiso 13- 2 17- 6 147
Eastern Michigan 11- 3 17- 5 64 Buffalo 10- 5 15- 8 204
Ohio 10- 4 19- 7 50 Western Illinois 9- 5 15- 7 184
Bowling Green State 9- 5 15- 7 100 Eastern Illinois 10- 6 15-10 233
Ball State 8- 6 13- 9 103 Youngstown State 8- 6 15- 7 215
Toledo 7- 7 13- 9 102 Troy State 8- 7 10-13 239
Western Michigan 6- 8 11-11 134 Missouri-Kansas City 6- 9 6-17 277
Akron 3-11 7-15 183 Central CT State 5- 9 7-15 243
Kent 3-11 6-16 220 Chicago State 4-12 4-20 243
Central Michigan 0-14 3-19 271 NE Illinois 2-14 4-19 293
Mideastern Athletic Conference Midwestern Collegiate Conference
------------------------------ --------------------------------
Coppin State 14- 1 17- 8 142 Xavier (Ohio) 12- 0 21- 3 40
South Carolina St 10- 5 13-12 266 Illinois-Chicago 10- 3 16- 7 128
North Carolina A&T 8- 6 10-14 247 Wisconsin-Green Bay 9- 4 17- 7 85
Howard 8- 6 9-15 280 Detroit Mercy 8- 4 11-12 143
MD-Eastern Shore 8- 7 12-13 282 Butler 8- 5 15- 9 127
Bethune-Cookman 8- 7 10-15 257 LaSalle 6- 6 12-12 123
Morgan State 5-10 5-20 298 Northern Illinois 6- 7 16- 8 160
Delaware State 3-13 6-20 300 Wright State 5- 7 9-15 171
Florida A&M 2-13 5-20 294 Cleveland State 3-10 10-15 225
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2-12 3-21 291
Loyola (Chicago) 1-12 4-19 279
Missouri Valley Conference Northeast Conference
-------------------------- --------------------
Tulsa 13- 3 18- 6 21 Rider 12- 4 15- 9 141
Bradley 12- 5 18- 7 72 Marist 11- 5 15- 9 145
Southern Illinois 11- 5 18- 8 48 Mount St.Mary's 11- 5 13-11 189
Illinois State 11- 5 16-11 81 Fairleigh Dickinson 10- 6 14-10 170
Evansville 10- 6 17- 7 84 Monmouth 10- 6 12-12 181
Drake 8- 8 11-13 122 Wagner 8- 8 9-15 237
SW Missouri State 7- 9 14- 9 108 Long Island 7-10 9-16 258
Wichita State 6- 9 13-10 105 St. Francis PA 6-10 10-14 210
Northern Iowa 4-12 8-18 222 St. Francis NY 5-12 9-16 284
Creighton 3-12 6-17 219 Robert Morris 1-15 3-21 292
Indiana State 2-13 6-17 231
North Atlantic Conference Ohio Valley Conference
------------------------- ----------------------
Drexel 11- 2 18- 5 71 Tennessee State 11- 5 17- 7 138
New Hampshire 9- 4 16- 7 90 Murray State 9- 5 16- 8 162
Northeastern 8- 5 14- 9 132 Morehead State 8- 6 13-11 157
Vermont 6- 7 13-10 165 Tennessee Tech 8- 6 12-12 230
Hartford 6- 7 10-13 167 Austin Peay State 8- 6 11-13 175
Boston University 5- 8 12-14 154 Eastern Kentucky 6- 8 8-16 241
Delaware 5- 8 10-13 207 SE Missouri State 5- 9 10-13 216
Hofstra 5-10 8-16 206 Tennessee-Martin 5- 9 7-18 278
Maine 4- 8 9-13 195 Middle Tennessee St 4-10 10-13 236
Pacific Ten Conference Patriot League
---------------------- --------------
UCLA 11- 2 18- 2 5 Bucknell 11- 2 13-12 203
Arizona 9- 4 19- 6 17 Colgate 10- 3 13-12 124
Arizona State 9- 4 19- 6 23 Navy 9- 4 17- 8 176
Washington State 8- 5 13- 8 69 Holy Cross 8- 5 13-11 214
Stanford 7- 5 16- 5 36 Lehigh 5- 8 10-14 249
Oregon 7- 5 15- 6 25 Fordham 5- 8 9-15 250
California 4- 8 12- 9 54 Army 4- 9 11-13 265
Oregon State 3- 9 6-15 133 Lafayette 0-13 2-23 295
Washington 3-10 7-14 139
Southern California 2-11 7-16 163
Southeastern Conference Southern Conference
----------------------- -------------------
Kentucky 10- 2 18- 4 10 UT-Chattanooga 10- 3 15- 9 148
Florida 7- 5 14- 8 33 Marshall 9- 4 16- 8 192
Georgia 6- 6 15- 7 66 East Tennessee State 8- 4 12-12 190
Vanderbilt 6- 6 12-10 77 Davidson 6- 6 13-11 169
South Carolina 3-10 8-15 120 The Citadel 6- 6 11-12 275
Tennessee 2-11 8-14 96 Furman 6- 7 10-15 251
Western Carolina 5- 6 9-13 256
Mississippi State 9- 3 17- 5 11 Virginia Military 5- 7 8-15 268
Arkansas 9- 4 21- 5 9 Georgia Southern 3- 9 7-17 288
Alabama 8- 4 18- 6 39 Appalachian State 3- 9 6-18 274
Auburn 6- 7 13- 9 98
Louisiana State 5- 7 11-11 87
Mississippi 3- 9 8-14 152
Southland Conference Southwestern Athletic Conference
-------------------- --------------------------------
Nicholls State 15- 1 19- 5 73 Texas Southern 10- 2 18- 6 129
Northeast Louisiana 9- 6 10-16 166 Miss Valley State 9- 4 15-10 263
North Texas 8- 6 13- 9 182 Alabama State 8- 4 10-13 253
Texas-San Antonio 8- 6 11-11 201 Southern 6- 7 12-11 285
Southwest Texas St 7- 7 12-10 202 Jackson State 6- 7 9-18 223
Stephen F Austin St 7- 7 11-11 242 Grambling State 5- 8 10-15 299
Northwestern State 7- 8 12-11 179 Alcorn State 4- 9 7-18 296
McNeese State 5-10 9-14 262 Prairie View A&M 3-10 4-19 301
Texas-Arlington 4-10 7-15 269
Sam Houston State 3-12 6-17 289
Southwest Conference Sun Belt Conference
-------------------- -------------------
Texas Tech 9- 2 15- 7 95 Western Kentucky 15- 1 20- 3 45
Texas 8- 2 17- 5 46 New Orleans 11- 5 17-10 121
Rice 7- 4 12-10 149 Jacksonville 10- 6 16- 8 104
Texas Christian 6- 5 14- 9 126 Arkansas-Little Rock 9- 7 15- 9 172
Houston 5- 6 8-15 211 Louisiana Tech 9- 7 14-10 155
Texas A&M 4- 7 11-15 178 Texas-Pan American 7- 8 10-13 153
Baylor 2- 8 8-16 232 South Alabama 7- 9 9-15 199
Southern Methodist 2- 9 5-17 191 Lamar 5-10 10-13 217
Arkansas State 3-13 7-17 283
SW Louisiana 3-13 5-20 248
Trans America Athletic Conference Western Athletic Conference
--------------------------------- ---------------------------
Coll of Charleston 13- 2 20- 6 79 Utah 12- 3 21- 5 43
Stetson 12- 3 16- 9 136 Brigham Young 11- 4 20- 7 34
Samford 10- 5 15-10 186 Texas-El Paso 10- 4 16- 7 52
Mercer 7- 7 12-12 168 Wyoming 8- 7 12-12 97
SE Louisiana 7- 7 11-13 212 Colorado State 7- 8 15-10 117
Georgia State 6- 8 10-14 234 Hawaii 6- 8 12-10 88
Central Florida 6- 9 9-15 245 Fresno State 6- 8 12-11 164
Centenary 5- 9 8-16 238 New Mexico 6- 8 11-13 106
Campbell 3-11 7-17 273 San Diego State 3-11 8-14 235
Fla International 3-11 7-17 259 Air Force 3-11 7-16 226
Florida Atlantic 0- 0 8-15 218
West Coast Conference Independents
--------------------- ------------
Santa Clara 11- 1 20- 4 29 Notre Dame 14-11 114
Portland 8- 4 17- 7 109 Oral Roberts 7-13 264
St.Mary's 8- 4 15- 9 110
Gonzaga 5- 7 16- 8 116 Records for independent teams are for
San Diego 5- 7 10-13 173 NCAA Division I games only.
Loyola Marymount 4- 8 12-12 209
San Fransisco 4- 8 10-15 144
Pepperdine 3- 9 7-17 229
|
| 14.970 | UCLA #1 (for now) | MKFSA::LONG | Let your tongue hang out. Stay cool. | Mon Feb 27 1995 11:58 | 5 |
| I know it's still a little early, Tommy, but I was wondering if you
have your prom dress picked out yet?
billl
|
| 14.971 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 27 1995 13:50 | 219 |
| Through February 26, 1995
American West Conference Atlantic Coast Conference
------------------------ -------------------------
Southern Utah 4- 0 13-10 North Carolina 11- 3 21- 3
Cal State-Northridge 4- 2 7-17 Maryland 11- 3 22- 5
Cal State-Sacramento 2- 3 6-18 Virginia 11- 3 19- 6
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 0- 5 1-23 Wake Forest 9- 4 18- 5
Georgia Tech 7- 7 17-10
Florida State 5-10 12-13
North Carolina State 4-10 12-12
Clemson 3-11 13-11
Duke 2-12 12-14
Atlantic Ten Conference Big East Conference
----------------------- -------------------
Massachusetts 11- 3 21- 4 Connecticut 15- 1 22- 2
George Washington 10- 4 18-10 Villanova 13- 3 21- 6
Temple 9- 5 16- 8 Syracuse 11- 4 18- 6
St.Bonaventure 9- 7 17-11 Georgetown 9- 6 16- 7
St.Joseph's 8- 7 15-10 Miami (Florida) 8- 8 13-10
Rutgers 6- 8 11-13 Seton Hall 7- 9 16-10
West Virginia 6- 9 12-12 Providence 5-11 13-11
Duquesne 5-10 8-16 St.John's 5-11 12-12
Rhode Island 2-13 7-18 Pittsburgh 4-12 8-16
Boston College 2-14 8-16
Big Eight Conference Big Sky Conference
-------------------- ------------------
Kansas 10- 3 21- 4 Weber State 10- 3 17- 8
Oklahoma State 9- 3 19- 8 Montana 9- 3 18- 7
Oklahoma 8- 4 21- 6 Idaho State 7- 6 16- 8
Missouri 7- 5 18- 6 Montana State 6- 6 18- 7
Iowa State 5- 6 19- 7 Idaho 6- 6 12-12
Nebraska 4- 8 17-10 Boise State 6- 7 16- 9
Colorado 3- 9 13-11 Northern Arizona 4- 9 7-17
Kansas State 2-10 11-13 Eastern Washington 2-10 5-18
Big South Conference Big Ten Conference
-------------------- ------------------
No. Carolina-Greensboro 14- 2 21- 5 Michigan State 12- 3 20- 4
Charleston Southern 12- 4 16-10 Purdue 10- 3 19- 6
Maryland-Baltimore Co. 10- 6 13-13 Illinois 8- 5 17- 8
Radford 9- 7 15-11 Michigan 8- 5 14-11
Liberty 7- 9 11-15 Minnesota 8- 6 17- 9
North Carolina-Asheville 7- 9 11-15 Indiana 8- 6 16-10
Towson State 6-10 12-13 Iowa 7- 7 17- 9
Winthrop 4-12 7-19 Penn State 7- 8 15- 9
Coastal Carolina 3-13 6-20 Wisconsin 6- 7 12-10
Ohio State 2-13 6-19
Northwestern 1-14 5-19
Big West Conference Colonial Athletic Association
------------------- -----------------------------
Long Beach State 13- 3 17- 7 Old Dominion 12- 2 17-11
Utah State 12- 4 19- 6 No. Carolina-Wilmington 10- 4 16-10
New Mexico State 11- 5 20- 8 James Madison 9- 5 14-11
Nevada 10- 6 14-10 East Carolina 7- 7 18-10
Pacific 8- 7 13-10 American 7- 7 8-18
Cal-Santa Barbara 8- 8 13-11 William and Mary 5- 8 7-18
Nevada-Las Vegas 5-10 9-14 Richmond 3-11 7-19
Cal-Irvine 5-12 9-15 George Mason 2-11 7-18
Cal State-Fullerton 5-12 7-18
San Jose State 3-13 4-20
Great Midwest Conference Ivy League
------------------------ ----------
Memphis 7- 2 19- 7 Pennsylvania 11- 0 19- 5
Cincinnati 6- 3 17- 9 Princeton 8- 3 14- 9
St.Louis 7- 4 19- 6 Brown 8- 4 13-11
Marquette 6- 5 15-10 Dartmouth 8- 4 11-13
DePaul 5- 5 15- 8 Yale 5- 7 9-15
Alabama-Birmingham 3- 6 12-14 Cornell 4- 8 9-15
Dayton 0- 9 7-16 Harvard 2-10 4-20
Columbia 1-11 4-20
Metro Conference Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
---------------- ----------------------------------
North Carolina-Charlotte 8- 3 18- 6 Manhattan 12- 2 23- 3
Southern Mississippi 6- 4 15- 9 St.Peter's 10- 4 16-10
Tulane 6- 5 20- 8 Canisius 10- 4 17-11
Louisville 6- 5 15-12 Fairfield 6- 7 12-13
Virginia Tech 5- 6 19- 8 Iona 6- 8 10-16
South Florida 4- 7 14-10 Siena 5- 8 8-17
Virginia Commonwealth 3- 8 16-12 Loyola (Maryland) 4- 9 8-17
Niagara 1-12 4-24
Mid-American Conference Mid Continent Conference
----------------------- ------------------------
Miami (Ohio) 14- 2 19- 5 Valparaiso 14- 2 18- 6
Ohio 12- 4 21- 7 Western Illinois 11- 5 17- 7
Eastern Michigan 12- 4 18- 6 Buffalo 10- 6 15- 9
Bowling Green State 10- 6 16- 8 Eastern Illinois 10- 7 15-11
Ball State 10- 6 15- 9 Youngstown State 9- 7 16- 8
Toledo 8- 8 14-10 Troy State 9- 7 11-13
Western Michigan 7- 9 12-12 Central Connecticut State 6-10 8-16
Kent 4-12 7-17 Missouri-Kansas City 6-10 6-18
Akron 3-13 7-17 Chicago State 5-12 5-20
Central Michigan 0-16 3-21 Northeastern Illinois 2-16 4-21
Mideastern Athletic Conference Midwestern Collegiate Conference
------------------------------ --------------------------------
Coppin State 15- 1 18- 8 Xavier (Ohio) 14- 0 23- 3
South Carolina State 10- 6 13-13 Wisconsin-Green Bay 10- 4 18- 7
North Carolina A&T 10- 6 12-14 Illinois-Chicago 10- 4 17- 8
Maryland-Eastern Shore 9- 7 13-13 Detroit Mercy 9- 5 12-13
Bethune-Cookman 9- 7 11-15 Butler 8- 7 15-11
Howard 8- 8 9-17 Northern Illinois 7- 7 17- 8
Morgan State 5-11 5-21 LaSalle 7- 7 13-13
Delaware State 3-13 6-20 Wright State 6- 7 10-15
Florida A&M 2-14 5-21 Cleveland State 3-11 10-16
Loyola (Chicago) 2-13 5-20
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2-13 3-22
Missouri Valley Conference Northeast Conference
-------------------------- --------------------
Tulsa 14- 3 19- 6 Rider 13- 5 16-10
Southern Illinois 12- 5 19- 6 Marist 12- 6 16-10
Illinois State 12- 5 17-11 Mount St. Mary's 12- 6 14-12
Bradley 12- 6 18- 8 Fairleigh Dickinson 11- 7 15-11
Evansville 10- 7 17- 8 Monmouth 11- 7 13-13
Drake 9- 8 12-13 Wagner 9- 9 10-16
Southwest Missouri State 8- 9 15-10 Long Island-Brooklyn 8-10 10-16
Wichita State 6-11 13-12 St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 7-11 11-15
Northern Iowa 4-13 8-19 St.Francis (New York) 5-13 9-17
Creighton 4-13 7-18 Robert Morris 2-16 4-22
Indiana State 3-14 7-18
North Atlantic Conference Ohio Valley Conference
------------------------- ----------------------
Drexel 12- 2 19- 5 Tennessee State 11- 5 17- 8
New Hampshire 9- 5 16- 8 Murray State 10- 5 17- 8
Northeastern 9- 6 15-10 Morehead State 9- 6 14-11
Boston University 7- 8 14-14 Tennessee Tech 9- 6 13-12
Hartford 7- 8 11-14 Austin Peay State 8- 7 11-14
Delaware 6- 8 11-13 Southeast Missouri State 6- 9 11-13
Vermont 6- 9 13-12 Eastern Kentucky 6- 9 8-17
Maine 5- 9 10-14 Tennessee-Martin 5-10 7-19
Hofstra 5-11 9-17 Middle Tennessee State 4-11 11-14
Pacific Ten Conference Patriot League
---------------------- --------------
UCLA 13- 2 20- 2 Colgate 11- 3 14-12
Arizona 11- 4 21- 6 Bucknell 11- 3 13-13
Arizona State 10- 5 20- 7 Navy 10- 4 18- 8
Stanford 8- 6 17- 6 Holy Cross 9- 5 15-11
Oregon 8- 6 16- 7 Fordham 6- 8 10-16
Washington State 8- 6 14- 9 Lehigh 5- 9 11-15
California 5- 9 13-10 Army 4-10 11-15
Washington 4-10 8-15 Lafayette 0-14 2-24
Oregon State 3-11 6-17
Southern California 2-13 7-18
Southeastern Conference Southern Conference
----------------------- -------------------
Kentucky 12- 2 20- 4 Tennessee-Chattanooga 11- 3 16- 9
Georgia 8- 6 17- 7 Marshall 10- 4 17- 8
Florida 7- 7 14-10 East Tennessee State 8- 5 12-13
Vanderbilt 6- 8 12-12 Western Carolina 7- 6 11-13
Tennessee 3-11 9-14 Davidson 6- 7 13-12
South Carolina 3-11 8-16 The Citadel 6- 7 11-14
Furman 6- 7 10-15
Mississippi State 11- 3 19- 5 Virginia Military 5- 8 9-16
Arkansas 10- 4 23- 5 Appalachian State 4- 9 7-18
Alabama 9- 5 19- 7 Georgia Southern 3-10 7-18
Auburn 6- 8 14-10
Louisiana State 6- 8 12-12
Mississippi 3-11 8-16
Southland Conference Southwestern Athletic Conference
-------------------- --------------------------------
Nicholls State 16- 1 20- 5 Texas Southern 11- 2 19- 6
Texas-San Antonio 10- 6 13-11 Mississippi Valley State 10- 4 16-10
Northeast Louisiana 10- 7 11-17 Alabama State 8- 5 10-14
Stephen F. Austin State 9- 7 13-11 Southern 7- 7 13-12
North Texas 8- 8 13-11 Jackson State 7- 7 10-18
Northwestern State 8- 9 13-12 Grambling State 5- 9 10-16
Southwest Texas State 7- 9 12-12 Alcorn State 4-10 7-19
McNeese State 5-11 9-15 Prairie View A&M 3-11 4-20
Texas-Arlington 5-11 8-16
Sam Houston State 4-13 7-18
Southwest Conference Sun Belt Conference
-------------------- -------------------
Texas Tech 10- 2 16- 7 Western Kentucky 16- 1 22- 3
Texas 9- 3 18- 6 New Orleans 12- 5 18-10
Rice 7- 4 13-10 Jacksonville 11- 6 17- 8
Texas Christian 7- 6 15-10 Arkansas-Little Rock 9- 8 15-10
Texas A&M 5- 7 12-15 Texas-Pan American 9- 8 12-13
Houston 5- 7 8-16 Louisiana Tech 9- 9 14-12
Baylor 3- 9 9-17 South Alabama 7-11 9-17
Southern Methodist 2-10 6-18 Lamar 6-11 11-14
Southwestern Louisiana 4-13 6-20
Arkansas State 3-14 7-18
Trans America Athletic Conference Western Athletic Conference
--------------------------------- ---------------------------
College of Charleston 14- 2 22- 6 Utah 14- 3 23- 5
Stetson 12- 4 16-10 Brigham Young 13- 4 22- 7
Samford 11- 5 16-10 Texas-El Paso 12- 4 18- 7
Mercer 8- 8 13-13 Wyoming 9- 7 13-12
Central Florida 7- 9 11-15 New Mexico 8- 8 13-13
Southeastern Louisiana 7- 9 11-15 Colorado State 7- 9 15-11
Centenary 7- 9 10-16 Hawaii 6-10 12-12
Georgia State 6-10 10-16 Fresno State 6-10 12-13
Campbell 4-12 8-18 San Diego State 3-13 8-16
Florida International 4-12 8-18 Air Force 3-13 7-18
Florida Atlantic 0- 0 8-16
West Coast Conference
---------------------
Santa Clara 12- 2 21- 5
Portland 10- 4 19- 7
St.Mary's 10- 4 17- 9
Gonzaga 7- 7 18- 8
San Diego 5- 9 10-15
Loyola Marymount 4-10 12-14
San Fransisco 4-10 10-17
Pepperdine 4-10 8-18
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| 14.972 | updated ACC | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Mon Feb 27 1995 14:05 | 21 |
| Rick,
At least in terms of the ACC this looks more like throuhgh February 25.
Yesterday Wake beat Virginia so now it looks like:
Atlantic Coast Conference
-------------------------
North Carolina 11- 3 21- 3
Maryland 11- 3 22- 5
Virginia 11- 4 19- 7
Wake Forest 10- 4 19- 5
Georgia Tech 7- 7 17-10
Florida State 5-10 12-13
North Carolina State 4-10 12-12
Clemson 3-11 13-11
Duke 2-12 12-14
Now if'n this all stands State won't have to play Thursday night.
TTom
|
| 14.973 | Coaches' Poll | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Mon Feb 27 1995 14:10 | 30 |
| Latest coaches' poll:
CNN/USA Today/Coaches:
1. UCLA
2. No Carolina
3. Kentucky
4. Kansas
5. Connecticut
6. Maryland
7. Arkansas
8. Massachusetts
9. Michigan St
10. Arizona
11. Wake Forest
12. Villanova
13. Virginia
14. Arizona St
15. Syracuse
16. Purdue
17. Mississippi St
18. Oklahoma
19. Stanford
20. Oklahoma St
21. Missouri
22. Alabama
22. Georgetown
24. Iowa St
24. Utah
TTom
|
| 14.974 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 27 1995 14:20 | 3 |
| > At least in terms of the ACC this looks more like throuhgh February 25.
Yep, my fingers slipped. It is through Saturday.
|
| 14.975 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Mon Feb 27 1995 14:24 | 4 |
| Anyone know who NC has left on their schedule. Unless they lose
it looks like #1 seed in the east will go to them.
Jimbo
|
| 14.976 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Mon Feb 27 1995 14:28 | 10 |
|
>> I know it's still a little early, Tommy, but I was wondering if you
>> have your prom dress picked out yet?
It's way too early, billl. Given the PAC-10's penchant in recent years
for bowing out early in the tourney, I ain't hardly worried yet. Who
can forget Mike Heiser declaring the state of Arizona a 'hoops hotbed'
and then the Wildcats going out and promptly losing in the first round
to Spiccoli and his surfer buddies from UC-Santa Clara? Nope, I ain't
worried yet.
|
| 14.977 | Wake and Duke | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Mon Feb 27 1995 14:33 | 6 |
| Jimbo,
No Carolina hosts Wake and Duke to complete their season. Wake might win.
Duke has no chance.
TTom
|
| 14.978 | Now if Temple was in uclas path... | AKOCOA::BREEN | That is enough for me and for thee | Mon Feb 27 1995 15:06 | 5 |
| Tommy your big worry would be the ncaa setting them up for final four
status via matchups,ref selection, site etc. Now that the big tv
contract is in the can and its a seller's market I don't see the need.
Hopefully that is all behind us and ncaas can be a level playing field.
|
| 14.979 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Georgetown > Sorryexcuse | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:06 | 5 |
|
Oh how soon they forget. With Dean there there's always a chance and Duke did
extend them to OT the last time they met.
mike
|
| 14.980 | Interested In Nonconference Standings | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:09 | 4 |
| I'd be interested in knowing the nonconference games palyed by
the 1st through 4th ACC teams. NC and Maryland have 3 conf.
losses and Wake and Virginia have 4. The real differences are
due to the nonconference standings.
|
| 14.981 | Conference Tourneys Coming Soon | WREATH::SCOPA | | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:28 | 8 |
| Hmmm, looks like the best that UMASS can hope for is a #2 seed.
* * * *
I know this probably won't happen but WHATIF Duke took the ACC
tournament? Would they get an NCAA bid? Hope not.
Maj
|
| 14.982 | I believe so | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Testudo is still grounded! | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:39 | 4 |
| I believe that the winner of the ACC Tourney gets an automatic bid to
the big dance. If that is the case, and if Duke wins it, then they go.
UMDan
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| 14.983 | yep | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:45 | 10 |
| Right you are Dan.
The winner of the ACC tournament is the ACC Basketball Champion and thus
gets the automatic bid to the NCAAs.
In the case of Duke winning it all, No Carolina is likely to be a #1 seed
in any case. It always seems like the regional seedings are done before
all the tourneys are over.
TTom
|
| 14.984 | R.P.I. Top 10 | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Mon Feb 27 1995 16:49 | 13 |
| Here's the RPI (Ratings Percentage Index). This is used by the NCAA to
"supplement the selections of at-large teams"
1. Kansas
2. No Carolina
3. UCLA
Connecticut
5. Massachusetts
6. Kentucky
7. Maryland
8. Villanova
9. Arkansas
10. Michigan St
|
| 14.985 | Kansas not a #1 seed? | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Mon Feb 27 1995 17:13 | 14 |
| Rumor I heard this week was that the committee will send Kansas west as
the 2nd seed behind UCLA for two reasons:
1) Make UCLA earn a trip to the FInal Four
2) Keep Kansas out of Kemper Arena
The #1 seeds would be UNC (East), Kentucky (SE), Maryland (MW) and
UCLA (West).
Also, can someone explain to me how Syracuse stayed as high as #15?
There must be tons of sorry-ass teams in the NCAA if Syracuse is the
15th best team in the country!
NAZZ
|
| 14.986 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Bustings over, changed again.. | Mon Feb 27 1995 18:28 | 11 |
|
Is the Kemper arena Kansas's home arena? I know the NCAA has a
rule. That states if a team has played X amount of games at a certain
arena. They can not be scheduled to play in that arena during the NCAA
tournament. With the exception being the final 4 arena. It is a
relatively low number, Something like 3 or 5 games. This is why 2 years
ago or was it last year? Umass only played 1 game at the Centrum. The
first round games were at the Centrum. If Umass played there two many
times, there was no chance of getting seeded in the East.
Ron
|
| 14.987 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 27 1995 18:28 | 14 |
| > Is the Kemper arena Kansas's home arena? I know the NCAA has a
> rule. That states if a team has played X amount of games at a certain
> arena. They can not be scheduled to play in that arena during the NCAA
> tournament. With the exception being the final 4 arena. It is a
> relatively low number, Something like 3 or 5 games. This is why 2 years
> ago or was it last year? Umass only played 1 game at the Centrum. The
> first round games were at the Centrum. If Umass played there two many
> times, there was no chance of getting seeded in the East.
I believe the rule is that they cannot play on a home court in the first
two rounds of the regional. But, the Kemper Arena is not a first round
site.
AM I right or wrong about this belief ? Anyone know for sure ?
|
| 14.988 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Feb 27 1995 18:41 | 3 |
| I heard it mentioned last week. Kansas played at Kemper Arena 3 times
this year, and that was below the number which would exclude them from
that site in the NCAA tournament.
|
| 14.989 | at least 4, maybe 5 | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Feb 27 1995 21:08 | 2 |
| 14.990 | Kansas will have to get by Arkansas | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Tue Feb 28 1995 16:06 | 25 |
| Pac-10 should get 5 minimum - UCLA, Arizona, ASU, Stanford, and Oregon.
Washingotn State and Cal are longshots at this point, but will be in
the NIT.
As for Kansas, I believe that if they win the Big 8 tourney, they will
be the #1 seed in the Midwest. But if they falter, look for Maryland
to move to #1 out there. I predict that the loser of Arkansas-Kentucky
will be the Midwest #2 seed. The team that is not #1 in the Midwest
(either Kansas or Maryland) will be #2 in the West.
Here's how I see the top four seeds as of today:
EAST SOUTHEAST MIDWEST WEST
1. No. Carolina 1. Kentucky or 1. Kansas or 1. UCLA
2. UConn or Arkansas Maryland 2. Kansas or
UMass 2. Arizona 2. Arkansas or Maryland
3. UMass or 3. Virginia Kentucky 3. Wake Forest
UConn 4. Oklahoma St. 3. Michigan St. 4. Villanova
4. Purdue 4. Arizona St.
If UConn does not win the Big East tourney and UMass wins the A-10
tourney, UMass is #2 in the East and UConn is #3. If they both win
or both lose, UConn will get the #2 seed.
NAZZ
|
| 14.991 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Feb 28 1995 16:46 | 12 |
| > EAST
> 1. No. Carolina
> 2. UConn
> UMass
> 3. UMass
> UConn
I'd be very surprised if the committee allowed all 3 to stay in the East.
Nazz, will SU make the field of 64 ? And if so, where do you see them
going ? I'd love to see them matched-up with UMass at some point.
Maybe in the #2-#15 game ?
|
| 14.992 | Michigan state if it wins Big 10 has be seeded | AKOCOA::BREEN | Jumblay,Crawfish pie, filet gumbo | Tue Feb 28 1995 16:47 | 3 |
| The big 10 champ has to be a number 1 or 2 seed, especially if it's
state with 4 losses at this point, probably 5 max. Anything else makes
this whole newfangled seeding business more absurd year by year.
|
| 14.993 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Feb 28 1995 17:01 | 3 |
| > The big 10 champ has to be a number 1 or 2 seed,
No way they'll ever get a #1. Maybe not even a #2.
|
| 14.994 | UMass and UConn | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Tue Feb 28 1995 17:21 | 10 |
| I agree with Nazz on UMass/UConn and thats the main thing I'm
keeping my eyes open for. UMass will probably not enter the
A10 tournament with another loss. GWU and Temple will be in
the other bracket. UMass should play the winner either at home
or a neutral site (forget how that part of it works).
So, to me, the only questionable game for UMass is the A10 finals.
And if they win and UConn loses 1 game, UMass will seed higher.
Tony
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| 14.995 | It's gonna be fun! | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Tue Feb 28 1995 17:30 | 10 |
| Joe,
Ya keep knockin' down the Big10... :*O Seriously, I wouldn't be real
surprised to see three teams make the Sweet 16 and have at least one
outlast any and all Big East teams.
We'll see.
Spud
|
| 14.996 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Feb 28 1995 18:17 | 6 |
| > Ya keep knockin' down the Big10...
Spud, I'm not knockin' them, just calling it like I see it. I've had plenty
of respect for the strong Indiana and Michigan teams of the past. I just
don't see that in any of this year's Big-10 teams. Lot's of sloppy play,
and no big-time players.
|
| 14.997 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | Jumblay,Crawfish pie, filet gumbo | Tue Feb 28 1995 18:24 | 5 |
| I give you Kentucky if they win SEC championship, NC same and UCLA.
After that there's no free lunch, state is as qualified as any.
You have to give the champs of the big conferences the seeds before the
runnerups of other conferences.
|
| 14.998 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Feb 28 1995 18:43 | 34 |
| > <<< Note 14.997 by AKOCOA::BREEN "Jumblay,Crawfish pie, filet gumbo" >>>
>
> I give you Kentucky if they win SEC championship, NC same and UCLA.
> After that there's no free lunch, state is as qualified as any.
>
> You have to give the champs of the big conferences the seeds before the
> runnerups of other conferences.
No way in the world will Michigan State be a #1. They may (and probably
will) get a #2 seed, unless they lose once or twice more along the way,
possibly to Indiana this weekend.
Seedings are based on the ratings which the NCAA maintains, which rely
heavily (but not solely) on the RPI rating. Michigan State is #11 in
the current RPI, behind Kansas, UNC, UConn, UMass, UCLA, Kentucky,
Arkansas, Maryland, Villanova, and Wake Forest.
No doubt about it, the ACC champ will be seeded ahead of Michigan State.
So will the SEC champ if from Kentucky or Arkansas (and if Miss.State,
currently at #12 in the RPI, were to win the SEC tourney, they'd be
higher than Michigan State, as well). UCLA will be higher if they don't
lose from here on (and they don't play anyone else). I wouldn't count
on Kansas, UConn and Villanova, and UMass to all fold in the remainder of
the season.
No, the best the Spartans can be seeded is a #2, and they really have to
win all four to assure that spot. The Big 10 just isn't that hot this
year. MSU is #11, Illinois #21, Indiana #30, Purdue #33, Michigan #38,
Minnesota #49, Iowa #72, PSU #76, Wisconsin #87, OSU #179, and NW #216
in the latest RPI. They were upset by a lot of teams in the pre-conference
games, and that hurts them in the tournament selection process.
For example, Purdue's losses to James Madison and Western Michigan are
going to keep their seeding lower than what it might have been.
|
| 14.999 | blow them seedings for sure | CNTROL::CHILDS | Georgetown > Sorryexcuse | Tue Feb 28 1995 18:58 | 4 |
|
what happens if say Georgia Tech wins the ACC championship?
mike
|
| 14.1000 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Feb 28 1995 19:10 | 2 |
| If Tech wins the ACC tournament, the regular season ACC champ
(UNC or Maryland) will still be seeded ahead of Michigan State.
|
| 14.1001 | rpi index - another step towards armageddon | AKOCOA::BREEN | Jumblay,Crawfish pie, filet gumbo | Tue Feb 28 1995 20:18 | 11 |
| well I hear you and you are up on it; my point is (I guess) that I
disagree with the ncaa. The big 10 mainly thru michigan but also via
Indiana and Purdue have certainly held their own with the other
conferences the last five years (edge to acc, maybe even with sec).
So until they have forfeited their respect by inability to get to final
four (and 2 or more to final 8) they should retain their seeding. I
can see rpi being used for the 3-10 area but conference integrity
should be kept.
But then again there's lots else wrong with the world
|
| 14.1002 | NCAA Div III Tourney.... | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Tue Feb 28 1995 21:02 | 89 |
|
I found the NCAA Div-III tourney pairings out on the Internet.
Anybody want to start a tourny pool??? :-)
I guess Franklin & Marshall is the team to beat.
JD would be glad to see a couple of Wesleyan schools
in the tourney (The Little Dance???)
Put your money on UMass-Dartmouth!!!
JimH :-)
==============================================================
The NCAA D III tourney starts on Thursday at Campus sights. This is the
first year for 64 teams in the D III tourney. Here are the opening round
matchups taken from Monday's "Wisconsin State Journal".
ATLANTIC Sectional
Geneseo St.(NY)(18-7) @ Rochester Institute of Technology(NY)(21-4)
Albany (NY)(17-7) @ St. John Fisher(NY)(16-9)
Montclair St.(NJ)(17-9) @ Rowan(NJ)(22-3)
Hunter(NY)(17-10) @ New York University(21-4)
Elmira(NY)(17-8) @ Buffalo St.(NY)(20-7)
Plattsburgh St.(NY)(17-9) @ Hamilton(NY)(19-5)
Staten Island(NY)(20-6) @ Jersey City St.(NJ)(18-8)
York(NY)(18-6) @ New Jersey Tech (24-1)
MIDWEST Sectional
Ripon(WI)(19-5) @ Manchester (IN)(26-0)
Beloit(WI)(13-11) @ Washington(MO)(22-3)
Baldwin-Wallace(OH)(17-8) @ Hope(MI)(26-0)
Calvin(MI)(17-9) @ Wittenberg(OH)(20-7)
Westminster(MO)(14-13) @ Illinois Wesleyan(21-3)
Kenyon(OH)(18-8) @ Ohio Northern(22-5)
Heidelberg(OH)(17-10) @ Wooster(OH)(24-2)
Hanover(IN)(21-6) @ Wheaton(IL)(21-4)
SOUTH Sectional
Wisconsin-Whitewater(18-7) @ Pomona-Pitzer(CA)(18-7)
St. John's(MN)(17-8) @ Wisconsin-Platteville(25-0)
Christopher Newport(VA)(18-9) @ Hampden-Sydney(VA)(25-2)
Oglethorpe(GA)(18-7) @ Greensboro(NC)(18-9)
Central(IA)(15-10) @ St. Thomas(MN)(26-0)
Simpson(IA)(20-5) @ Nebraska Wesleyan(19-6)
Roanoke(VA)(19-8) @ Maryville(TN)(19-6)
Hendrix(AR)(19-5) @ Millsaps(MS)(23-2)
NORTHEAST Sectional
Salve Regina(RI)(20-7) @ Massachusettes-Dartmouth(23-3)
Colby(ME)(20-4) @ Williams(MA)(21-3)
Goucher(MD)(18-9) @ Lebanon Valley(PA)(22-5)
Widener(PA)(18-8) @ Wilkes(PA)(22-4)
Salem State(MA)(20-6) @ Tufts(MA)(20-4)
Babson(MA)(20-6) @ Trinity(CT)(21-3)
York(PA)(20-7) @ Cabrini(PA)(20-6)
Muhlenberg(PA)(18-8) @ Franklin & Marshall(PA)(25-1)
Winners advance to round 2 on Saturday. On-campus sites again.
|
| 14.1003 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Mar 01 1995 01:19 | 5 |
| > NORTHEAST Sectional
>Colby(ME)(20-4) @ Williams(MA)(21-3)
Go Colby. In the past, the Mules were not allowed to compete in the NCAA's
(the ECAC tourney was OK). Must have been a change in policy.
|
| 14.1004 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Mar 01 1995 01:44 | 19 |
| BTW, the first Division I conference playoff games were held Monday with
two games in the Notheast Conference:
Robert Morris (2-16, 4-22) at Long Island (8-10, 10-16)
St.Francis NY (5-13, 9-18) at St.Francis PA (7-11, 11-15)
Brooklyn, NY Robert Morris 45 35 - 80
Long Island 54 33 - 87 A- 204.
Loretto PA St.Francis NY 29 47 - 76
St.Francis PA 38 57 - 95 A- 405.
LIU-Brooklyn moves on to play conference leader Rider (13-5, 16-10).
St.Francis PA moves on to play runners-up Mount St. Mary's (12-6, 14-12)
Marist (12-6, 16-10) will meet Wagner (9-9, 10-16) and
Fairleigh Dickinson (11-7, 15-11) will meet Monmouth (11-7, 13-13) in the
other NEC quarterfinals.
Thrilled with this info, aren't you !
|
| 14.1005 | | PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing | Wed Mar 01 1995 13:15 | 3 |
| The Tar Heels got beat last night by Wake Forest.
Mark.
|
| 14.1006 | | MROA::WILKES | | Wed Mar 01 1995 13:23 | 7 |
| Re. Div III Tourney
Colby Mules and Wilkes are my sentimental favorites but in terms of a
pool you would have to a real "get a life basketball junkie" to pick
all those games. I have enough trouble picking the Div I tourney.
Lyndon Wilkes a long ago Colby BBaller
|
| 14.1007 | At least that's what she told me | CSLALL::BRULE | Was there life before ESPN? | Wed Mar 01 1995 13:40 | 5 |
| Williams will kick Colby's butt.
Mike
(who's sister-in-law is the assistant AD at Williams)
|
| 14.1008 | Go Corsairs!!! | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Wed Mar 01 1995 14:43 | 12 |
|
There was a short article in the Globe this morning about
UMass-Dartmouth. They got the #1 seed in the Northeast Regional,
which gives them home court advantage through the regionals, not bad.
UMass-Dartmouth made it to the sweet 16 last year, the the Final-4
the previous year. Here's hoping the experience is worth something....
JimH
|
| 14.1009 | Big 10 is definitely down this year | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Wed Mar 01 1995 16:16 | 8 |
| Syracuse will be no better than a #5 or #6 seed, unless they win the BE
tourney, which is a longshot at best.
As for the Big Ten, they should get five bids. Who gets in after
Michigan State and Purdue is the question. I'm guessing Minnesota,
Indiana, and Michigan, but that is subject to change.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1010 | I want SU-UMass in the Tournament ! | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Mar 01 1995 16:22 | 11 |
| > Syracuse will be no better than a #5 or #6 seed, unless they win the BE
> tourney, which is a longshot at best.
But where do you think they'll go ? The lower the seed, the better the
chance you have of staying in your region (at least that's the pattern
I've noticed).
Imagine this Nazz: If SU falls to a #6 and they stay in the East, and
UMass is #3 in the East, they could meet in ALBANY in the 2nd round !!!!
Would that place be jumpin' ?? Would you watch the game with your
hand partially covering your eyes ???
|
| 14.1011 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | JAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUST | Wed Mar 01 1995 16:24 | 12 |
|
So from them conference standings in .971 does anyone know which
of those conferences don't get automatic berths into the NCAA's.
Thanks in Advance
Chap
|
| 14.1012 | Syracuse looking for revenge and not getting it | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Wed Mar 01 1995 16:25 | 5 |
| That would be ideal! Assuming Syracuse can get by the #11 seed,
certainly not a given. I would love to see UMass give the Orange the
spanking they truly deserve.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1013 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Mar 01 1995 16:37 | 5 |
| > I would love to see UMass give the Orange the
> spanking they truly deserve.
Like the one the heavily-favored Minutemen gave them 3 yrs ago on their
2nd-home floor ?
|
| 14.1014 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | JAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUST | Wed Mar 01 1995 16:41 | 6 |
|
Like the 2 the Heavily favored Minutemen gave GW this year??
Chap
|
| 14.1015 | Cal would fear Hoyas more | AKOCOA::BREEN | Ashes to ashes, dust to dust | Wed Mar 01 1995 17:06 | 2 |
| I much more likely but worse from UMass point of view matchup would be
Georgetown. Syracuse would be fodder for the Minutemen.
|
| 14.1016 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Mar 01 1995 18:05 | 9 |
| > I much more likely but worse from UMass point of view matchup would be
> Georgetown. Syracuse would be fodder for the Minutemen.
Which G'town team, the won that couldn't beat BC, or the one that beat
SU ?
I would think that UMass would match-up better with G'town (ie: strength
against strength). SU's backcourt could give the Minutemen some trouble...
they certainly wouldn't be "fodder".
|
| 14.1017 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | Ashes to ashes, dust to dust | Wed Mar 01 1995 18:34 | 12 |
| UMASS is a disciplined, agressive team with a similar talent base as
Syracuse just much more better at executing and closing.
Georgetown is somewhat similar to Temple, less well coached but if
focused able to handle the inside.
UMass can play with many different types of teams but the first thing
any team has to do to stand a chance with them is neutralize the inside
game. Syracuse could never do this.
Georgetown with a lesser team than this years gave Arkansas a very good
run last year but was very much victimized by the refs.
|
| 14.1018 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 02 1995 02:13 | 23 |
| Northeast Conference Quarterfinals:
#8 St.Francis PA vs #1 Rider at Lawrenceville, New Jersey
Rider 63, St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 62
#7 LIU-Brooklyn vs #2 Mount St. Mary's at Emmitsburg, Maryland
Mount St. Mary's 68, Long Island-Brooklyn 67
#6 Wagner vs #3 Marist at Poughkeepsie, New York
Marist 91, Wagner 75
#5 Fairleigh Dickinson vs #4 Monmouth at West Long Branch, New Jersey
Fairleigh Dickinson 73, Monmouth 71
So, on Friday:
Fairleigh Dickinson 16-11 at Rider 17-10
Marist 17-10 at Mount St. Mary's 15-12
Mideastern Athletic Conference Opening Round:
#9 Florida A&M vs #8 Delaware State at Dover, Delaware
Delaware State 100, Florida A&M 73
|
| 14.1019 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 02 1995 11:31 | 14 |
| One team clinched an NCAA tournament berth last night.
Out west, UCLA defeated Pac-10 doormat Southern California, 85-66,
to win the automatic bid from the Pacific Ten Conference. The
Bruins are 14-2 in the conference with 2 games remaining, and hold
the tie-breaker edge of runners-up Arizona, 11-4 in the Pac 10.
This weekend, look for Pennsylvania to wrap up the Ivy bid,
while a number of conferences start conference tournaments. The
TAAC tournament begins today, with #1 seed Stetson meeting
Florida International, #2 Samford vs Georgia State, #3 Mercer vs
Centenary, and #4 Southeastern Louisiana vs Central Florida.
College of Charleston, the regular season champ for the second
straight year, is not eligible for the title until 1996.
|
| 14.1020 | Where's The Logic??? | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Thu Mar 02 1995 12:01 | 12 |
| Some of this dialogue is kind of amusing. Its sort of like
"Team x beat Team y who beat Team z who beat the #1 ranked
team, therefore Team x is the best team in the land!"
Sure UMass lost to GWU. They also beat Maryland AT Maryland
and they thrashed Arkansas by ~24 points.
I am one who doesn't think UMass is that good because the guard
play is mediocre at best, but some of the logic in the recent
replies defies me!
Tony
|
| 14.1021 | yeah, that's it :*) | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Thu Mar 02 1995 14:00 | 7 |
| Therefore:
Minnesota defeated Villanova rather easily earlier this year >
Villanova trounced top rated Connecticut... so my GOPHS are the best!!!
Spud
|
| 14.1022 | Yup | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Thu Mar 02 1995 15:14 | 1 |
| I KNEW THAT!!!
|
| 14.1023 | About Division III... | MUNDIS::SSHERMAN | Steve Sherman @MFR | Fri Mar 03 1995 13:49 | 18 |
| .1002, JimH:
> I found the NCAA Div-III tourney pairings out on the Internet.
>
> SOUTH Sectional
> Wisconsin-Whitewater(18-7) @ Pomona-Pitzer(CA)(18-7)
When I was a student at Pomona (class of '65), we were in Division III
of the NAIA. I don't exactly remember what that stood for, some
permutation of National, Association, Intercollegiate, and Athletics,
I imagine, but we weren't part of the NCAA. Does anybody know when
the NAIA was swallowed?
Pitzer College, incidentally, was founded in my senior year as a
women's college. The two schools together might have 1500 or 1600
students.
Steve
|
| 14.1024 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 03 1995 15:15 | 34 |
|
Steve,
I don't know if the NAIA still exists or not. When I was
at Southeastern Mass Univ (now UMass-Dartmouth) in the late 70's, the
school was also a member of the NAIA. I think SMU moved to the NCAA
about 10 years ago.
I don't have any results from the Pomona game last night.
USA Today doesn't have the west coast scores. I'll post the score when I
get it.
In the Northeast Regional, Umass-Dartmouth blew out Salve Regina
117-77. Little East POY Stefan Pagios scored 32. Boston's Channel 5 did
a short spot on UMass-Dartmouth last night. Pagios is a 5'7" guard,
who none of the major colleges wanted because of his size. Apparently
hje can shoot, going 6-6 from 3-point land last night.
Other Northeast reginal games:
Salem St. 86 Tufts 80
Williams 80 Colby 66
Trinity 95 Babson 89
Next round - Saturday night:
Williams @ Umass-D A rematch from lasst year's tourny
Salem St. @ Trinity
JimH
|
| 14.1025 | yep | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Fri Mar 03 1995 15:28 | 10 |
| > I don't know if the NAIA still exists or not. When I was
Sure does. Most conferences are in the midst of or just completed their
tourneys to see who goes.
I was back home in West By Gawd Virginee and they were having their
tournament. Just to keep things interesting, everyone of the top 4 seeds
lost.
TTom
|
| 14.1026 | Thanks, guys | MUNDIS::SSHERMAN | Steve Sherman @MFR | Fri Mar 03 1995 16:00 | 14 |
| So if the NAIA still exists, and schools like Pomona are in the NCAA, who
is left in the NAIA?
I mean, Pomona was pretty near the bottom of the college athletic ladder.
We were a student body of 1100, and no athletic scholarships were awarded.
The powerhouses in our league (SCIAC, Southern California Intercollegiate
Athletic Conference) were Redlands and Whittier (that's right, Tricky
Dicky's alma mater), and it included Biola and CalTech.
I'll never forget our two football games against CalTech in the Rose Bowl,
with maybe three hundred spectators snuggled in on either side of the 50-
yard line in a one hundred thousand seat stadium. Surreal!
Steve
|
| 14.1027 | some of 'em | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Fri Mar 03 1995 16:09 | 12 |
| Steve,
I'm not tto sure who all's in the NAIA. Like the NCAA there is more than
one division.
WVIAC - West Virginia Intercollegiate Athletic Conference - still in in
the NAIA. The teams include some of our favorite like W.Va. Wesleyan.
I think - but I'm not sure - that some of the local small schools are
also in the NAIA like Pfeiffer, St. Andrew's and Lees-McRae.
TTom
|
| 14.1028 | Looking Ahead | WREATH::SCOPA | | Fri Mar 03 1995 18:27 | 14 |
| The "Big Dance" invites 64 teams.
Of these 64 slots how many are "at-large" and how many are conference
slots?
Also, does anyone know if the Tournament Committee has an unwritten
rule that states no more than n teams from any one conference?
Also, can someone please list all the people who will pick UCONN in
their office pools to go to the Final Four? I figure I can finance
my daughter's college years by making bets with these Big East
fanatics.
Maj
|
| 14.1029 | seemed like a good idea at the time | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Fri Mar 03 1995 18:25 | 8 |
| I'll fess up.
At the very beginning of the college hoops season I picked the following
final 4 teams in a pool:
Arkansas, No Carolina, Arizona, UConn.
TTom
|
| 14.1030 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Fri Mar 03 1995 18:30 | 3 |
| I guess you can start your list with me!
Jimbo
|
| 14.1031 | Sad TTom, sad | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Fri Mar 03 1995 18:30 | 5 |
| | Arkansas, No Carolina, Arizona, UConn.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Proof positive that it is no fun to diss the Heels now that Chris
is gone...
|
| 14.1032 | a habit | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Fri Mar 03 1995 18:33 | 7 |
| =Bob=
I've rooted against the Heels for so long, I've taken to picking them in
the polls to hedge my bet. I started doing this before SPROTS and
certainly before getting to know our ex-faux fan, Chris Knorr.
TTom
|
| 14.1033 | You give Juice??? :-) | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 03 1995 18:44 | 7 |
|
Put me down on that UConn list!!!
Chap
|
| 14.1034 | doomed ;-) | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Fri Mar 03 1995 18:44 | 0 |
| 14.1035 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Sat Mar 04 1995 19:10 | 19 |
| In so far:
UCLA Pacific Ten Conference champion
Pennsylvania Ivy League champion
Florida International 11-18 Trans America Athletic Conference champion
North Carolina A&T 15-14 Mideastern Athletic Conference champion
Tonight:
Murray State 20-8 vs Austin Peay State 13-15 for the Ohio Valley Conference
automatic bid.
FIU makes their first NCAA tournament, beating #1 Stetson, #4 SE Louisiana,
and #3 Mercer to win the TAAC tournament from the #8 seeding.
NCA&T beats Coppin State, 66-64, to prevent Coppin State from the NCAA
tourney. Coppin State, 31-1 in the last two MEAC regular seasons, has gone
2-2 in MEAC tournaments in these two years.
|
| 14.1036 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 06 1995 01:08 | 14 |
| In so far:
UCLA 23-2 Pacific Ten Conference champion
Pennsylvania 21-5 Ivy League champion
Florida International 11-18 Trans America Athletic Conference champion
North Carolina A&T 15-14 Mideastern Athletic Conference champion
Murray State 21-8 Ohio Valley Conference champion
Mount St. Mary's 19-12 Northeast Conference champion
Tennessee-Chattanooga 20-10 Southern Conference champion
The Mountaineers make their first ever NCAA Division I tournament appearance.
Jim Phelan, the MSM coach, has been there for 41 years, and led them to a
Division II championship in the early 60's. The Mount became a Division I
program in 1988.
|
| 14.1037 | Coaches Poll | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Mon Mar 06 1995 12:53 | 26 |
| CNN/USA Today/Coaches:
1. UCLA
2. Kansas
3. No Carolina
4. Kentucky
5. Connecticut
6. Arkansas
7. Massachusetts
8. Wake Forest
9. Michigan St
10. Maryland
11. Arizona
12. Virginia
13. Purdue
14. Villanova
15. Mississippi St
16. Arizona St
17. Oklahoma St
18. Oklahoma
19. Missouri
20. Syracuse
21. Utah
22. Alabama
23. Oregon
24. Stanford
25. Iowa St
|
| 14.1038 | Sorry, JimH | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Mon Mar 06 1995 13:09 | 5 |
| Hey JimH:
UMass-Dartmouth = the Syracuse of Division III! ;-)
NAZZ
|
| 14.1039 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 06 1995 13:20 | 19 |
| Six titles (and NCAA berths) determined tonight:
Colgate vs Navy for the Patriot League title
Manhattan vs St.Peter's for the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference title
Old Dominion vs James Madison for the Colonial Athletic Assoc. title
Portland vs Gonzaga for the West Coast Conference title
Tulsa vs Southern Illinois for the Missouri Valley Conference title
Western Kentucky vs Arkansas-Little Rock for the Sun Belt Conf. title
Surprises this weekend:
Two conference #1 seeds, both high in the RPI ratings, were knocked off
by their conference #8 seeds. Santa Clara lost to Loyola Marymount in
the West Coast Conference, and Xavier lost to Wright State in the
Midwestern Collegiate Conference. (Wright State meets UW-Green Bay
for the conference title later this week.)
Probably both will get at-large bids to the NCAA tournament, knocking
out teams like St.Louis and the Big Ten #6 team.
|
| 14.1040 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Mon Mar 06 1995 13:41 | 5 |
| > UMass-Dartmouth = the Syracuse of Division III! ;-)
I'm well aware of Syracuse's disappointments when it comes to the Big Dance,
but how is it that coaches/teams like Bobby Cremins/G-Tech, Harrick/UCLA,
Stewart/Missouri, Keady/Purdue escape the *choker* label ?
|
| 14.1041 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Mon Mar 06 1995 13:42 | 4 |
| > Two conference #1 seeds, both high in the RPI ratings, were knocked off
> by their conference #8 seeds.
So much for the RPI ratings.
|
| 14.1042 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 06 1995 13:43 | 42 |
| Teams probably in:
ACC- Wake, UNC, Maryland, UVa, Tech (5/5)
A-10- UMass, Temple (2/7)
BEC- UConn, Villanova, Syracuse, G'town (4/11)
B 8- Kansas, Oklahoma, Okla State, Missouri, Iowa State (5/16)
B Sky- tourney champ (6/17)
B 10- MSU, Purdue, 3 of 4 from Minn, Mich, Indiana, Ill (5/22)
BWC- Utah State, either NMSU or CSLB (2/24)
CAA- ODU or JMU (1/25)
GMW- Memphis, Cincinnati (2/59)
Ivy- Pennsylvania (1/26)
Metro- UNCC, Tulane or VPI (2/28)
MAAC- Manhattan or St.Peter's (1/29)
MAC- Miami (Ohio) (1/30)
MEAC- North Carolina A&T (1/31)
MCC- Xavier, UWGB or Wright State (2/33)
MVC- Tulsa (1/34)
NEC- Mount St. Mary's (1/35)
NAC- tourney champ (1/36)
OVC- Murray State (1/37)
Pac- UCLA, Arizona, ASU, Stanford, Oregon (5/42)
PL- Colgate or Navy (1/43)
SEC- Ky, Arkansas, Miss State, Alabama (4/47)
SC- UT-Chattanooga (1/48)
SLC- tourney champ (1/49)
SWC- tourney champ (1/50)
SWAC - tourney champ (1/51)
SBC- Western Kentucky (1/52)
TAAC- Florida International (1/53)
WCC- Santa Clara, Portland or Gonzaga (2/55)
WAC- Utah, BYU (2/57)
This leaves the remaining at large spots being contested for by:
#3 team from A-10 (GWU or St.Joseph's), Nebraska, #6 team from Big Ten,
#3 team from Metro, Ohio University, Southern Illinois,
#5 team from SEC (Florida or Georgia), #2 team from SWC (Texas or TTU),
Texas-El Paso, St.Louis, College of Charleston (remember last year);
plus, must include any remaining upsets (for example, if UALR beats
Western Kentucky, or if teams like FSU or Clemson, or Colorado, or
Miami or Seton Hall, or Vanderbilt or LSU, or Wyoming or Hawaii,
somehow win a tournament).
|
| 14.1043 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 06 1995 13:50 | 8 |
| > <<< Note 14.1040 by USCTR1::GARBARINO "Dean > Bumhiem" >>>
>
>I'm well aware of Syracuse's disappointments when it comes to the Big Dance,
>but how is it that coaches/teams like Bobby Cremins/G-Tech, Harrick/UCLA,
>Stewart/Missouri, Keady/Purdue escape the *choker* label ?
>
Who said they did ?
|
| 14.1044 | Oh well.... | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Mon Mar 06 1995 14:07 | 19 |
|
Thanks a lot Nazz. :-(
Umass-Dartmouth lost to Williams 61-59 saturday night. I don't
have any details about the game. I do know that Williams gets revenge
for being knocked out of the tourney lasted year by UM-D.
The other N.E. game was Trinity over Salem St., 93-90 in OT.
Neither the Globe, nor USA Today has the updated pairing for the
round-of-16 for the NCAA Div-III tourney....
JimH
|
| 14.1045 | Go Ephs | CSLALL::BRULE | Was there life before ESPN? | Mon Mar 06 1995 14:42 | 3 |
| Williams goes to Trinity for their next game. Williams was the top
rated team last year when UM-Dartmouth upset them and this year the
roles were reversed.
|
| 14.1046 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Bustings over, changed again.. | Mon Mar 06 1995 15:01 | 10 |
|
Do people see TCU making the field of 64? Does TCU have the guy
who is leading the nation in scoring with 29.9 and rebounds with 14.4
a game? Only 2 people have ever won both the scoring and rebound
titles in the same season. I know one of them is Otis Thorpe.
Can't remember his name, even though CBS did a piece on him
yesterday. I'd like to see him get some TV exposure if possible. They
showd Jerry West scouting him recently.
Ron
|
| 14.1047 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Mon Mar 06 1995 15:27 | 3 |
|
It wasn't Otis - one was Hank Gathers, don't remember the name of the
other...
|
| 14.1048 | | MROA::RSCHOTT | | Mon Mar 06 1995 15:45 | 2 |
| The Celtics own Xavier McDaniel was the other, I believe.
|
| 14.1049 | maybe Kelvin? | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Mon Mar 06 1995 16:00 | 4 |
|
yes X and Hank are the two. I thought the kid's name was ___________ Thomas?
mike
|
| 14.1050 | Iowa, Penn St longshots (Illinois in, but maybe shouldn't be) | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Baseball owners, den of inequity | Mon Mar 06 1995 16:32 | 21 |
|
> Re: Iowa
>
> Depends. If they win their last two, they're in. If they split they
> may still be in, based on 9-9 in the Big10. 9-9 makes it many times.
> Wisconsin made it in a couple years ago at 8-10.
9-9 in the Big-10 won't cut it this year. 10-8 may not for perhaps one
team, either. The entire conference was floated this year by the
woeful performances of both Ohio St and Northwestern, so a .500
conference record is not impressive.
Penn St could still finish 10-8 and not make it (it's a longshot, but
still possible). Yet so far, at 8-8 they've only the one big win
against Michigan, and have simply taken care of business against Iowa,
Wisconsin, and the two patsies to get them to .500. Losses in _all_
their close games (Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois) in the first
half did them in.
glenn
|
| 14.1051 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Mon Mar 06 1995 16:41 | 4 |
|
I believe it's Kurt Thomas.
(Yeah, like the gymnast - shudder...)
|
| 14.1052 | Don't say I didn't warn ya :*) | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Mon Mar 06 1995 20:25 | 14 |
| It's only one reporters picks, but he's listed: Illinois, Indiana,
Iowa, Purdue, Minnesota, Michigan and Michigan State to make the field.
The lowest seed he has is Iowa at #12. The rest are #10 or higher.
We'll know this Sunday. If others take the Big10 lightly, due to the
fact there isn't one outstanding team, they'll be sitting the sidelines
watching these supposed "down" teams continuing on in the tournament.
Games early in the year (read non-con battles) don't really mean much
now to teams that get in. Most teams aren't playing on the same level
they were 3-4 months ago.
Spud
|
| 14.1053 | I agree about the depth; just can't see 9-9 getting it | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Baseball owners, den of inequity | Mon Mar 06 1995 22:12 | 23 |
|
> It's only one reporters picks, but he's listed: Illinois, Indiana,
> Iowa, Purdue, Minnesota, Michigan and Michigan State to make the field.
>
> The lowest seed he has is Iowa at #12. The rest are #10 or higher.
> We'll know this Sunday. If others take the Big10 lightly, due to the
> fact there isn't one outstanding team, they'll be sitting the sidelines
> watching these supposed "down" teams continuing on in the tournament.
I don't disagree; I just don't think you'll see 7 Big-10 teams in there
unless they are all at least 10-8 in the conference. Believe it or not,
it's still a remote possibility that 8 teams could go 10-8, and
regardless of the overall quality of the conference you can't have
something like that happen without a couple of horrible teams at the
bottom generating lots of easy wins. Picking up the 3 or 4 wins
against Ohio St and Northwestern almost automatically (only Minnesota
lost to either all year long) makes the straight conference W-L record
somewhat deceiving. A 10-8 record works out to a 6-8 or 7-8 record
against the top 9 teams, a 9-9 record to 5-9 or 6-9, and the records
should be evaluated more along those terms.
glenn
|
| 14.1054 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Tue Mar 07 1995 13:19 | 21 |
|
>Williams goes to Trinity for their next game. Williams was the top
>rated team last year when UM-Dartmouth upset them and this year the
>roles were reversed.
According to today's Globe, they don't play each other yet.
They are matched up with other teams from the Northeast region.
Williams (23-3) vs Wilkes. Pa. (24-4)
Trinty (23-3) vs Franklin & Marshall (27-1)
I read on the Internet that Franklin & Marshall was the #1 ranked team
in the nation in Div III. Their only loss came in the finals of their
conference tourny. I forget the name of the other college, but the NCAA
rewarded them by given them a rematch with Franklin & Marshall in the
first round!!!
JimH
|
| 14.1055 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Tue Mar 07 1995 14:08 | 10 |
| re: Big-10 teams in the tourney
Spud,
The Big-10 has a low conference rating this year (RPI, Sagarin).
I just can't see 7 teams going from that conference, when the Big East
(higher rating) will only send 4. I believe only 4 should go from the
BE, but I also believe 7 should NOT go from the Big-10. Glenn's points
about record inflation provided by OSU and NW are proof that a .500
in-conference record is 'soft'.
|
| 14.1056 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 07 1995 14:08 | 31 |
| Four more teams are in the NCAA's:
Gonzaga 80, Portland 67 for WCC title (Bulldogs first NCAA berth ever)
Old Dominion 80, James Madison 75 for CAA title
Southern Illinois 77, Tulsa 62 for MVC title
St.Peter's 80, Manhattan 78 (OT) for MAAC title
So: Add Tulsa to the list of at-large invitees instead of an
automatic winner (although SIU was probably in as well).
Manhattan, with a great record, probably goes to the NIT (but don't
forget that College of Charleston got a surprise bid last year, so
anything is possible).
In: Florida International, Gonzaga, Mount St.Mary's, Murray State,
North Carolina A&T, Old Dominion, Pennsylvania, Southern Illinois,
St.Peter's, Tennessee-Chattanooga, UCLA
Tournament Championships coming up:
Wisconsin-Green Bay vs Wright State (MCC title, tonight)
Western Kentucky vs Arkansas-Little Rock (Sun Belt, tonight)
Massachusetts vs Tempe (A-10)
Drexel vs Northeastern (NAC, tomorrow night)
Colgate vs Navy (Patriot League, Friday)
SLC quarterfilnals last night saw:
Nicholls State 88, McNeese State 69 (Will meet SF Austin)
Northeast Louisiana 75, Texas-Arlington 61 (Will meet UTSA)
Texas-San Antonio 89, Northwestern State 78 (Will meet NE Louisiana)
Stephen F. Austin 73, North Texas 72 (Will meet #1 seed Nicholls State)
|
| 14.1057 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 07 1995 14:16 | 21 |
| > Games early in the year (read non-con battles) don't really mean much
> now to teams that get in. Most teams aren't playing on the same level
> they were 3-4 months ago.
>
> Spud
True, but they are the ONLY way to compare conferences, and they WILL
be used to determine how many from each conference get bids. It seems
unlikely to me the NCAAs will give the Big 10 seven teams, and stick
higher rated conferences (for example, the Metro) with comparitively
few tournament berths.
In addition to determining who gets in, those non-conference games also
help determine seedings. Don't look for anyone other than MSU or Purdue
to be seeded a #5 or higher. That makes the second round games tough
for the Big Ten.
The fact is that the Big Ten is having a down year this year. Only
Purdue, Iowa, and Michigan State are playing really well right now, and
Iowa won't get a bid. Look for no more than 2 Big 10 teams in the
Sweet 16.
|
| 14.1058 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Tue Mar 07 1995 14:42 | 4 |
| > Games early in the year (read non-con battles) don't really mean much
St. John's (definitely NOT an NCAA team) beat Michigan (at Mich) on Jan 29.
This definitely plays a part in the decision-making process.
|
| 14.1059 | Manhattan | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Tue Mar 07 1995 14:52 | 7 |
|
How low is their RPI? I find it hard to believe that a 25-4 team won't
get in *at all*, regardless of conference affiliation. And I find it
especially hard to believe considering that there's discussion about taking
a 7th place team from *any* conference.
Roland
|
| 14.1060 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Tue Mar 07 1995 15:05 | 6 |
|
the SEC and the ACC are the only two conferences strong enough to send 7
teams and that would requie each to have an upset winner in their respective
tournments.....
mike
|
| 14.1061 | SEC and ACC each have only five teams that could go | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Tue Mar 07 1995 15:11 | 5 |
| Who would be the 7th in the SEC or ACC? Even with an upset winner (say
Vanderbilt in the SEC and Duke in the ACC), that would only give each
conference six teams that would go to the tourney.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1062 | not the first time I've typed without thinking | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Tue Mar 07 1995 15:18 | 8 |
|
did I say 7? I meant 6.....
;^)
now that I put them teams down on paper, I realize the error of my thinking...
mike
|
| 14.1063 | | CSLALL::BRULE | Was there life before ESPN? | Tue Mar 07 1995 15:19 | 2 |
| Re.1054
The tourney though is at Trinity. At least that's what I've been told.
|
| 14.1064 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 07 1995 16:51 | 16 |
| > -< Manhattan >-
>How low is their RPI? I find it hard to believe that a 25-4 team won't
>get in *at all*, regardless of conference affiliation. And I find it
>especially hard to believe considering that there's discussion about taking
>a 7th place team from *any* conference.
>
>Roland
The 2/26 RPI had them rated as #62; with the cutoff probably being in the 40's
(that's a guess).
Two years ago, UW-Milwaukee went 23-4 without an invite; and Alcorn State went
unbeaten in the early 80's (before the SWAC had an automatic bid) without
getting a bid. [UMES also went unbeaten in the mid-70's without a bid, but
there was a question as to whether their schedule met the criteria to get a
bid; I forget all the details.]
|
| 14.1065 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Tue Mar 07 1995 17:39 | 16 |
|
Mid 40's might be a little high (low?) for a cutoff. This is probably an
oversimplification, but I'd think it'd be something like:
(64 - (non-top-64 conference champs))
If RPI were everything (and I realize it isn't), I understand that being #62
would put them in jeopardy, given the 11-18 and 15-14 teams that are already
in there. (Don't get me going about that.)
But it just seems intrisically wrong to me for a team that is 25-3 to *have*
to win their conference to get in while .500 and sub-.500 teams are already
in. I understand the importance of strength of schedule, but 25-4 vs. 17-12
is quite a difference.
Roland
|
| 14.1066 | Otherwise you end up with double small-conf champs... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Baseball owners, den of inequity | Tue Mar 07 1995 17:53 | 20 |
|
> But it just seems intrisically wrong to me for a team that is 25-3 to *have*
> to win their conference to get in while .500 and sub-.500 teams are already
> in. I understand the importance of strength of schedule, but 25-4 vs. 17-12
> is quite a difference.
This debate comes up every year (with Manhattan it seems ;-), but it
also seems intrinsically wrong that a 25-4 team that is truly a
deserving, quality team could lose its conference championship to a
St Peter's. The _conference_ chooses to decide its champion with a
tournament, though. In truth these smaller conferences are given
quite a perk as it is with their automatic NCAA bids, and the NCAA
should be under no obligation to take two teams in the event of
tournament upsets (they are far too common, for starters). The second
team should only go if they have truly demonstrated that they are among
the best of the 40-odd remaining teams. I don't think you can say that
with Manhattan.
glenn
|
| 14.1067 | The Stealth Tourny!!!! | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Tue Mar 07 1995 18:14 | 12 |
|
>Re.1054
>The tourney though is at Trinity. At least that's what I've been told.
The Globe didn't divulge the location of the Northeast Region
Semis/Finals....
JimH
|
| 14.1068 | | CSLALL::BRULE | Was there life before ESPN? | Tue Mar 07 1995 18:19 | 4 |
| The Globe didn't but my father told me he was probably heading to
the game and that my sister-in-law who works in the Williams Athletic
dept told him that the tourney is at Trinity because it was the most
centrally located of the four teams.
|
| 14.1069 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Tue Mar 07 1995 19:05 | 34 |
| RE: .1066
>In truth these smaller conferences are given
>quite a perk as it is with their automatic NCAA bids, and the NCAA
>should be under no obligation to take two teams in the event of
>tournament upsets (they are far too common, for starters).
I'm not saying they're obligated, I just think in this case that it
makes sense. Part of the fun of the NCAA tournament is seeing some of
the "unknowns" that you don't see on national television ad nauseum.
And these "unknowns" are a lot more competitive than a lot of people
give them credit for - I'll haul out the "College of Charleston" example,
since I think it's a close parallel (small school, flashy won/lost record).
As long as the evaluation shows that they "make the cut", I'd rather see
the unknown than a 17-12 major conference team that probably won't go very
far.
I'm not asking for "top 3 teams from every conference". I just want
teams that win that many games to get their due. I'd be more than happy
to also have a rule that says you lose your conference championship slot
that year if your conference champion has a sub-.500 record in Division I
games. That'll free up a slot or two.
>The second
>team should only go if they have truly demonstrated that they are among
>the best of the 40-odd remaining teams. I don't think you can say that
>with Manhattan.
A number of poll voters disagree with you (Manhattan has drawn some Top
25 votes). I do, too. :-)
Roland
|
| 14.1070 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Bustings over, changed again.. | Tue Mar 07 1995 19:46 | 9 |
|
Manhattan might be 25-4 but how many of those wins are against
Division 1 teams? Some of them must be against Division 2 teams. Reason
I say this is because they have a relitively low RPI. RPI is based
25% on Divison 1 wins, 50% on conference wins, and 25% on who your
opponets beat. So if you beat a Division 2 school it doesn't help your
RPI rating.
Ron
|
| 14.1071 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 07 1995 20:19 | 11 |
| > Manhattan might be 25-4 but how many of those wins are against
> Division 1 teams? Some of them must be against Division 2 teams. Reason
> I say this is because they have a relitively low RPI. RPI is based
> 25% on Divison 1 wins, 50% on conference wins, and 25% on who your
> opponets beat. So if you beat a Division 2 school it doesn't help your
> RPI rating.
>
> Ron
I've seen Manhattan's schedule; it isn't that tough, but I don't believe
there are any Division II teams on it.
|
| 14.1072 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Wed Mar 08 1995 12:42 | 4 |
|
They probably play less Division II teams than Georgetown... :-)
Roland
|
| 14.1073 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 08 1995 12:54 | 17 |
|
>> They probably play less Division II teams than Georgetown... :-)
Hey JT's not trying to pad his record. He's just trying to give them
smaller schools a big payday. Afterall Georgetown is the to basketball
what Notre Dame is to football. You either love em' or hate em' but
you always come out to see them.......
speaking of Thompson and Boehiem, Joe I think Thompson's going to retire
with more career victory than Boehiem. He's already got a 70 game jump on
him and both are probably going to have to go totally senile before either
school gets rid of them.......
mike
|
| 14.1074 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Wed Mar 08 1995 13:29 | 8 |
| If they always come out to see them Mike, exactly how many sell outs
did they have this year? Exactly how many arenas in the big east
were the hoya's the top draw? If you need help check the WWW
Hoya clubhouse.......
Jimbo 1 Mikey 0
|
| 14.1075 | John Thompson - Humanitarian | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Wed Mar 08 1995 13:39 | 19 |
|
Or do I go with the current flow and use "John Thompson, Man of Integrity"?
I just have this vision of JT peering through the fence at the prison
exercise facility, clutching tightly to a small stack of blank letters of
intent. Guards, prisoners - it doesn't matter. All men are equal in John's
eyes, as long as they're tall, muscular, unsigned, and have remaining
eligibility.
(Actually, Boeheim would do the same - I just don't see anyone trying to make
a case for what a great guy he is. Plus, he'd probably get punched out for
being a geek - I doubt Big John has much of a problem on that count.)
The Hoyas are a draw in Syracuse, but I greatly doubt they're any more of a
draw than the average Division I team anywhere else.
OK - my G'town bashing for today is done. I feel much better. :-)
Roland
|
| 14.1076 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Wed Mar 08 1995 13:54 | 8 |
|
Ok if G'town is no more of a draw than any other Div I school than why
do they average 7-15 NATIONAL broadcasted games a year?
Chap
|
| 14.1077 | no more popular than Wake, Purdue, Arizona, Mich. St., Syracuse... | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Wed Mar 08 1995 14:04 | 16 |
|
Given the number of games ESPN televises, you could say that about quite
a few clubs. It would especially apply to the ACC, the Big Ten, and the
Big East. I have to work hard with my remote to avoid North Carolina on
the weekend. Even Notre Dame has had multiple national games this year.
And I'd be interested to see where you got the "average 7-15". That's a
pretty wide spread for a group of averages, and I'd also be curious as to
the number of years that each of these averages came from.
"Any Division I school" was probably too much of a generalization, but I'd
still stand by the statement if it read "any big-conference Division I school".
I knew it wouldn't take long to draw out a Georgetown fan :-)
Roland
|
| 14.1078 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Wed Mar 08 1995 14:11 | 17 |
|
Well I for one saw G'town at least 10 times last year on either
CBS or ESPN?
And as far as this year goes I have seen them 6 times on ESPN and
another 4 on CBS, plus they still have another 3-7 times to be on?
In Comparison I have only seen UMass Nationally only about 8 times
in the past 2 years.
Chap
|
| 14.1079 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Wed Mar 08 1995 14:30 | 15 |
| re: invites to The Dance
Many people think ALL Div 1 schools should go to the tournament.
It would add one more week to the schedule, that's all. But if
the current format remains, I don't think teams that play a very
soft regular season and build up a 25-4 record, should get in over
a team from a big conference that has a .500 record against teams
better than any on the small school's sched. The big conference
teams should be rewarded for who they are. They support multiple
Div 1 sports programs, and should be given priority over smaller
schools that only compete in Div 1 men's basketball so they can
steal a piece of the $$$ pie. That's part of what drove the changes
to the $$$ distribution system, and why there's been discussion that
schools have to have more than one Div 1 sports pgm to be part of
NCAA Div 1 basketball.
|
| 14.1080 | Big10 voted the MFTV tourney down again | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Wed Mar 08 1995 14:49 | 24 |
| Re: Joe and others
When I say non-con games from Nov-Dec don't mean much now, I'm not
referring to the selections and seedings. Of course that is taken into
consideration. What I meant is the actual strength of the teams right
now. Teams that weren't playing well back then (Michigan for one) are
better now. Others have gone backwards.
Point two. "I" never said seven teams would go from the Big10. I said
one reporter predicted that. I thought it an interesting viewpoint to
provide a little balance to the 80% east coast BB fans in here. I do
think five and possibly six Big10 teams may make it. I also think
that's fair in light of these stupid post conference "made-for-TV"
tournaments that give a last place team an AUTOMATIC bid into the NCAA
for no apparent reason other than winning a silly round-robin
tournament. It still boggles my mind as to why the hell they play a
conference season in the first place. Yes, I know the first place team
gets in...
I love college basketball in March, but I'll never watch a post
conference tournament game. It's a waste of time IMO.
Spud
|
| 14.1081 | diffent set ups | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Wed Mar 08 1995 15:33 | 21 |
| Spud,
This is a never ending dispute.
Some conferences are set up so that they only use the regular season
standings in determination of the championship. The BigT1E1N, PAC10 and
Ivy are examples of this format.
Some conferences are set up so that the tourney which you reject outta
hand is how the championship is determined. The ACC uses this format.
It's the onliest one that I know of that does it this way. The tourney
winner is the champ and gets the bid.
In both of the above cases, one and only one team is the champion and
that team gets the automatic bid.
Then there are the conferences that award a championship based on the
regular season and then have a conference tourney to decide the automatic
bid. Almost every other conference uses this format.
TTom
|
| 14.1082 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Wed Mar 08 1995 16:57 | 8 |
| >Then there are the conferences that award a championship based on the
>regular season and then have a conference tourney to decide the automatic
>bid. Almost every other conference uses this format.
Whoa, big fella. I don't know where you get your info from, but the BE
does recognize a regular season "champion", but the team who carries the
defending conference champion label into the next season is the one who
wins the conference tournament. This year that was Providence.
|
| 14.1083 | Where's the justice? | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Wed Mar 08 1995 17:03 | 13 |
| Joe,
Are you saying that the Big East (as well as many of these other
conferences) does NOT get an automatic bid for both the regular season
conference champ AND silly post-season tournament? If that's the case,
I'm all wrong. But if that is the case, that's exactly my point. Why
should a team (such as Duke) even have the opportunity to get in the
NCAA this year? They sure haven't earned it. Their record stinks, but
if they get lucky and win three games, they're in. Meanwhile, a
deserving team somewhere else is bumped out.
Spud
|
| 14.1084 | so the Big East has 2 champions? | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Wed Mar 08 1995 17:17 | 0 |
| 14.1085 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 08 1995 17:38 | 12 |
|
yes the Big East has two but the tournement champ get the automatic bid.
I also seriously doubt that the regualar season champ has been excluded
from the dance........
Jimbo A big Zero Mikey 100.......
I was talking nationally Jimbo not just the Big East. Dam I sat with you
yesterday for petesakes when you bragged about UConn being the top draw
this year.
mike
|
| 14.1086 | 1 and only 1 | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Wed Mar 08 1995 17:46 | 7 |
| Wail, the good ol' ACC has one and only one champ, just like the
BigT1E1N, Ivy and PAC10.
The onliest champ is the school that wins the tourney. All the regular
season does is to provide the seeds for that said same tourney.
TTom
|
| 14.1087 | Ryan running on in Globe today | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Wed Mar 08 1995 19:04 | 7 |
| The one that finally did it was his Kentucky "has no chance"[in ncaas].
Mainly I guess because they're my choice right now to take it all. It
might help for them not to have to take on Arkansas again (in Ark.).
Now problems with them might mean problems with Mass or Villanova.
But from watching them and their record they'd be my pick.
|
| 14.1088 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Wed Mar 08 1995 19:25 | 13 |
| >Wail, the good ol' ACC has one and only one champ, just like the
>BigT1E1N, Ivy and PAC10.
Does the ACC recognize the regular season 'champ' in any way ? Does
the school put up a banner of some sort ? Anything ?
The BE recognizes them, that's it. I don't see anything wrong with
that. As has been said, the conference's champion for that season
is the tournament winner, who also gets the automatic bid.
I don't see anything significant here. Whether Wake Forest is
the ACC's '#1 seed', or the 'regular-season champ' is a matter of
semantics.
|
| 14.1089 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Wed Mar 08 1995 19:33 | 8 |
| In the past the BE referred to ties as co-champs and only used
tie-breaker for the seeding. Personally the regular season record (eg
best) is more significant than the tourney championship. However if
teams tie then a victory in the conf tourney or even best showing would
be an acceptable tie-breaker.
Tie-breakers in general (fe the ridiculous ones used in nfl) are
definitely one of my sore points.
|
| 14.1090 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Bustings over, changed again.. | Wed Mar 08 1995 20:11 | 15 |
|
I like the fact that the winner of the tournaments gets the
automatic bid for the NCAA. Injurys are a big par of sports. What if
Marcus Camby broke a leg 5 games into the season and UMASS ended up
with a 15-12 record or something like that. Your whole season could
be ruined because of 1 key injury. In my senario it lets Camby come
back and have UMASS win the A10 tournment and get into the dance.
Instead of being on the bubble at 15-12.
In '83 N.C. State would not have been invited to the tournament.
They won the ACC tournament got the automatic bid, then went on to
win the National Championship that year.
As stated the drawback is that a team on the bubble doesn't make
it.
Ron
|
| 14.1091 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 08 1995 20:45 | 7 |
|
If Dreams came true my Final Four would be: UMass, Maryland, Georgetown
and Villinova. Along the way there UMass would anilate UConn, Maryland
would spank Kentucky, Nova would trash UNC and Georgetown would whip
Arkansas. Also it sure would be nice to see St Peters embarass UCLA...
mike
|
| 14.1092 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Mar 09 1995 12:18 | 10 |
| Mikey Mikey wake up!!!!
Face it Mike Hoyas don't sell out at home and they only sell out on the
road in places that always sell out. They may have been a draw
back when you were a pup but now they are middle of the pack in terms
of a draw at the gate.
Travis Knight will eat Camby for breakfast
Jimbo
|
| 14.1093 | Valvano Cup? | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Thu Mar 09 1995 13:13 | 20 |
| >Does the ACC recognize the regular season 'champ' in any way ? Does
>the school put up a banner of some sort ? Anything ?
In order:
There is no regular season champ or anything. The best regular season
record gets you the top seed.
The one and only banner that goes up is for winning the tourney.
Now, under the anything category, they have started a trophy that the top
seed gets to keep for the year. I believe it's now called the Valvano Cup
or something to that ilk. The trophy was the product of a lot of Tar Heel
whining cause they seem to have the best regular season record much more
often than they win the conference championship.
So you'd have to say that they do 'anything'. But it aint no banner and
it aint no championship.
TTom
|
| 14.1094 | all american opinion | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Thu Mar 09 1995 13:45 | 12 |
| One man's opinion...
Right now, here's my All-American team and I'm sure I've left off some
worthy players.
Joe Smith, Maryland
Jerry Stackhouse, No Carolina
Ed O'Bannon, UCLA
Shawn Respert, Michigan St
Corliss Williamson, Arkansas
TTom
|
| 14.1095 | my crack at it | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Thu Mar 09 1995 14:17 | 6 |
| East SouthEast MidWest West
---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
NC Kentucky Kansas UCLA
UMass Maryland UConn Ark
Wake Forest Vill Mich St Virginia
Arizona Purdue Ariz St Okla St
|
| 14.1096 | Ask Jud, FatBob and the rest | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Thu Mar 09 1995 14:48 | 5 |
| Purdue goes down tonight at the Barn in Minneapolis. Still one of the
toughest arenas to win at in the country.
Spud
|
| 14.1097 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Thu Mar 09 1995 15:06 | 14 |
|
Travis will probably eat Camby's lunch while he's sitting on the bench
with head tucked between his legs from the on court beating he's taken.
Probably steal Camby's lunch to get even...
mine would be:
Joe Smith
Shawn Respert
Randolph Childress
Corliss Williamson
Kerry Kittles
mike
|
| 14.1098 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 09 1995 15:13 | 21 |
| Now there are 14: Drexel was added to the list last night,
dominating Northeastern to win the NAC title. Look for the
Dragons to be a #13 or #14 seed.
Drexel, Florida International, Gonzaga, Mount St.Mary's, Murray State,
North Carolina A&T, Old Dominion, Pennsylvania, Southern Illinois,
St.Peter's, Tennessee-Chattanooga, UCLA, Western Kentucky,
Wisconsin-Green Bay
Tonight:
Massachusetts vs. Temple for the Atlantic Ten Conference championship.
I believe Purdue clinches the Big Ten bid with a win at Minnesota
tonight, as well (otherwise it is decided this weekend).
Tomorrow:
Navy at Colgate for the Patriot League title.
To be decided this weekend:
Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Eight, Big Sky, Big West, Metro,
Mid-American, Southeastern, Southland, Southwest, Southwestern Athletic,
Western Athletic titles, as well as 35 at-large NCAA berths.
|
| 14.1099 | Big-10 pile-up grows: 5, 6, or 7, and whom? | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Baseball owners, den of inequity | Thu Mar 09 1995 15:24 | 15 |
|
With Iowa's upset win over Michigan St last night, that 7-team Big-10
scenario is not yet dead. If Iowa beats Indiana on Sunday, at 10-8 in
the conference and 20-10 overall finishing strong (with a few very
close losses to quality teams early), I don't think they could be
denied (well, they could, but I think they'd be the team with the
biggest right to be upset about it). That could leave Indiana or
Illinois or both to get bounced. Illinois has faded late and even
though I was hearing last night that they should be in (Digger Phelps?),
I'm not really sure why. And maybe Minnesota will end up having to
beat Penn St at PSU on Saturday, too, although by that time they may
have already been pencilled in (mentally).
glenn
|
| 14.1100 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Mar 09 1995 15:47 | 11 |
| I think if Iowa beats Indiana, Hoosiers head to NIT as they'll have
finished losing 2 of 3. On the other hand if Indiana wins will Iowa
be sent home.
No way should they get 7 in, I'd much rather see Manhatten get in than
Indiana as the #7 team from the Big Ten.
The kid with the grunge doo who plays for St. Peters made USA TODAY.
SI is next.
Jimbo
|
| 14.1101 | sure miss Walte... | MKFSA::LONG | Let your tongue hang out. Stay cool. | Thu Mar 09 1995 16:01 | 7 |
| >>The kid with the grunge doo
ANyone want to try their hand at a graphics depiction of this?
billl
|
| 14.1102 | odds are | HBAHBA::HAAS | Plan 9 from Outer Space | Thu Mar 09 1995 16:43 | 10 |
| FWIW, Danny Sheridan has made the following teams the favorites to win
their tourneys. I've listed the top 2 teams for each.
ACC No Carolina, Maryland
BigEast Connecticut, Syracuse
Great Midwest Memphis, St.Louis
SEC Kentucky, Arkansas
SWC Texas, Texas Tech
TTom
|
| 14.1103 | Could tourney upset trend go berserk | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Thu Mar 09 1995 16:54 | 4 |
| From what I'm reading St Louis has to win a bid to ncaa which would put
furthur strain on the bubble. Dick Vitale has Duke as a super
longshot. Throw Providence in or perhaps Florida and Bobby, the Dr.
and maybe even John T. are in trouble.
|
| 14.1104 | Seven a real possibility now | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Thu Mar 09 1995 17:08 | 26 |
| I do believe my Gophs will be in even if they lose their last two. No
Big10 team with a winning conference record has ever been denied.
Gophs are currently 10-6. Illinois is at OSU for their last game -
which won't be easy, they have played the top teams very tough lately,
but a win there puts them at 10-8. With a win at IU, Iowa finishes a
strong 10-8 and 20 wins. This all could (and likely will) happen and
seven teams should find their way in.
As I said before, no super teams, but several very good.
My prediction for the final Big10 standings:
MSU 14-4 22-6
Purdue 14-4 23-7
Minnesota 11-7 20-10
Michigan 11-7 18-13
Iowa 10-8 20-10
Indiana 10-8 18-12
Illinois 10-8 19-11
Penn St. 9-9 17-10
Wisconsin 7-11 13-14
Ohio St. 2-16 6-22
NW 1-17 5-22
Spud
|
| 14.1105 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Thu Mar 09 1995 18:00 | 9 |
| > MSU 14-4 22-6
> Purdue 14-4 23-7
> Minnesota 11-7 20-10
> Michigan 11-7 18-13
> Iowa 10-8 20-10
> Indiana 10-8 18-12
> Illinois 10-8 19-11
Can someone provide the RPI for these seven ?
|
| 14.1106 | :*) | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Thu Mar 09 1995 18:08 | 6 |
| Joe,
What does college hockey have to do with this?
Spud
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| 14.1107 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 09 1995 21:40 | 7 |
| > <<< Note 14.1104 by POBOX::WIERSBECK >>>
> -< Seven a real possibility now >-
There is NO possibility. With these records in PAST seasons, when the
Big Ten was a strong conference, I would have agreed. Not this year.
They may get six (though they shouldn't). No way they get seven. There
will be four from the Metro before the Big Ten gets seven.
|
| 14.1108 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 10 1995 11:45 | 25 |
| Now there are 16: Massachusetts beat Temple handily, while
Purdue clinched a share of the Big Ten title (and clinched the
NCAA bid) with a 13-point win at Minnesota.
Drexel, Florida International, Gonzaga, Massachusetts, Mount St.Mary's,
Murray State, North Carolina A&T, Old Dominion, Pennsylvania, Purdue,
Southern Illinois, St.Peter's, Tennessee-Chattanooga, UCLA,
Western Kentucky, Wisconsin-Green Bay
Tonight:
Navy at Colgate for the Patriot League title.
To be decided this weekend:
Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Eight, Big Sky, Big West, Metro,
Mid-American, Southeastern, Southland, Southwest, Southwestern Athletic,
Western Athletic titles, as well as 35 at-large NCAA berths.
Upsets in the WAC tournament yesterday leave Utah as the only one of
the top four seeds to win in the quarterfinals. Will the WAC send two
teams ? Pitt over St.John's, and BC upsetting SHU in the Big East
opening round. Duke over NCSU for the right to meet Wake Forest in
the ACC tourney today. Cinci squeaked by DePaul in overtime yesterday
to advance to meet St.Louis in the Great Midwest semis. Vandy,
Auburn, Alabama, Florida all advance in the SEC tourney, while
Rice, Houston, and Texas Tech join Texas in the SWC semifinals.
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| 14.1109 | My Gophs did fall to Purdue, anything's possible | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Mar 10 1995 12:14 | 8 |
| Re: NO possibility
Ahhh, never say never, Michael's coming back.
:*)
Spud
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| 14.1110 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Dean > Bumhiem | Fri Mar 10 1995 12:49 | 5 |
| > Navy at Colgate for the Patriot League title.
Does the Patriot League get an automatic bid, or do they still have
to play-in against another of the *lesser* conferences to get into
the Big Dance ?
|
| 14.1111 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 10 1995 17:04 | 13 |
|
Some scores from today's conference tourney's:
Final- Virginia 77, Georgia 67
Kansas leads Kansas St. 44-19 at the half
Georgetown 60 Miami 49 1:32 left in the game
Vanderbilt 37 Arkansas 33 at the half...
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| 14.1112 | Tech | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Neural net needs new string | Fri Mar 10 1995 17:06 | 5 |
| That Virginia 77, Georgia TECH 67
Look for UVA to play either UNC or my Terps for the ACC Championship.
UMDan
|
| 14.1113 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 10 1995 17:14 | 12 |
|
>That Virginia 77, Georgia TECH 67
My fingers typed those extra five keystrokes. They must have
gotten lost in cyberspace!!!! :-0
Georgetown won by 11....
JimH
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| 14.1114 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 10 1995 17:59 | 8 |
|
Kansas doubles up Kansas St. 90-45 FINAL.
Arkansas leads Vandy 65-64 with 4:10 remaining. That
is the first time I've seen the Razorbacks with the lead...
|
| 14.1115 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 10 1995 18:17 | 8 |
|
Halftime
Pitt 40
UCONN 39
????????????
|
| 14.1116 | | MKFSA::LONG | Let your tongue hang out. Stay cool. | Fri Mar 10 1995 18:18 | 1 |
| Mr/Ms Palmer is being prepped as we speak....
|
| 14.1117 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 10 1995 18:22 | 7 |
|
Arkansas squeaks out a 73-72 win over Vandy...
At the half, Wake Forest over Duke 46-45
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| 14.1118 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 10 1995 19:00 | 11 |
|
Wake Forest lead Duke 77-76 with 2:31 left
Uconn leads Pitt 60-54 with 10:10 remaining
Kentucky leads Auburn 17-11 in the 1st half
Missouri 14-11 over Iowa St.
|
| 14.1119 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 10 1995 19:16 | 13 |
|
Uconn 77 Pitt 73 3:22 left
Kentucky 29-25 over Auburn still in the 1st half
Missouri leads Iowa St. 25-15 at halftime...
Wake Forest 87 Duke 70 FINAL (That doesn't jive with the last
score I gave, but hey I'm getting
these over the Internet...)
|
| 14.1120 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Jim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740 | Fri Mar 10 1995 19:29 | 4 |
|
FINAL UConn 81 Pitt 78
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| 14.1121 | | MKFSA::LONG | Let your tongue hang out. Stay cool. | Fri Mar 10 1995 19:36 | 10 |
| >>FINAL UConn 81 Pitt 78
Wow! No way Pitt shoulda been able to make that kinda game of it.
Looks like Mr Palmer's operation is delayed....for now.
billl
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| 14.1122 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 14 1995 13:36 | 6 |
| Can someone with the women's pairings tell me:
Who is Maine going to lose to in the first round, and where ?
And, who is the Ivy League rep in the women's tournament ?
Thanks.
|
| 14.1123 | | CAMONE::WAY | USS Triton, SS-201, On Eternal Patrol | Tue Mar 14 1995 13:47 | 5 |
| >
> Who is Maine going to lose to in the first round, and where ?
>
UCONN, Gampel.....
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| 14.1124 | Dartmouth | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Tue Mar 14 1995 13:58 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1125 | Wayne Turner is heading south! | MROA::RSCHOTT | | Wed Mar 15 1995 11:25 | 10 |
| Wayne Turner, a 6'2" guard, from Mission Hill in Boston, and
Beaver Country Day School, will disappoint Syracuse, UCONN and UMASS
today by announcing that he will attend the University of Kentucky next
year.
Turner closed out his high school career with a flourish, scoring
over 60 points (that's per game) in games with Maine Central Institute
and the Naval Academy Prep School, both in losing causes.
Russ
|
| 14.1126 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Red Sox > Syracuse Hoopsters | Wed Mar 15 1995 12:44 | 1 |
| Anyone know the TV schedule for Thursday and Friday ?
|
| 14.1127 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Globe 2, Calipari 1 | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:03 | 11 |
|
I know that UCONN is the 2:40 game on Thursday. While UMASS is
the 2:40 game on Friday. They didn't want to put UCONN or UMASS on
during primetime for the first game. Since both teams would have
required that NYC see the game. If there is a blowout, they didn't
want to loose the NYC market.
So the primetime games will be teams more in the middle of
the brackets for the first games. You should see the 7-12 seeds
during primetime on Thursday and Friday.
Ron
|
| 14.1128 | | GENRAL::WADE | Ah'm Yo Huckleberry... | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:10 | 6 |
|
General Hospital comes on at 1:00 pm MST both days.
HTH,
Claybone
|
| 14.1129 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:12 | 4 |
|
While I'm sure Tenn-Chattanooga will win I doubt it will be a blowout....
mike
|
| 14.1130 | | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:16 | 13 |
| > <<< Note 14.1128 by GENRAL::WADE "Ah'm Yo Huckleberry..." >>>
>
>
> General Hospital comes on at 1:00 pm MST both days.
>
> HTH,
>
> Claybone
Don't forget my fave, One Life to Live, at noon.
Kevin
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| 14.1131 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:24 | 22 |
|
1st team AA: Respert, Stoudmire, Smith, O'Bannon, and Stackhouse.......
2nd team AA: Kittles, Childress, Wallace, Williamson, Roe.......
3rd team AA: Allen, Minor, Reeves, Martin and Henderson I think...
choosing by posistion I'd say the guards are interchangeable. I think
Reeves could certainly change places with Wallace.
now the joke of the team was the Honarable Mentions: Keith Van Horn
certainly could have made the 3rd team and Donny Marshall who isn't
even the second best player on his team made it. I could see Scheffer
or Ollie there and certainly feel Williams of Georgtown, Eberz and
Lawson of Nova are more deserving along with probably 100 other players
except of course that stiff Travis Knight........
;^)
Allan Iverson also made Honarable Mention.......
mike
|
| 14.1132 | | FRSBEE::GROVES | | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:30 | 9 |
| Mike,
The 3rd team AA is :
Bryant Reeves
Tim Duncan
Ray Allen
Kurt Thomas
Lawrence Moten
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| 14.1133 | I'd rate the second team a 5 point favorite over the 1st | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:47 | 1 |
|
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| 14.1134 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 15 1995 13:52 | 5 |
|
thanks I left my paper at home so I was quessing the third team. Hey I'll
take my 3rd place team against theirs and spot them 10........
;^)
|
| 14.1135 | From JD.... | CAMONE::WAY | USS Triton, SS-201, On Eternal Patrol | Wed Mar 15 1995 17:40 | 168 |
| From: US2RMC::"devlin@xyvision.com" 15-MAR-1995 14:35:15.04
To: cam::way, dzign::robichaud
CC: devlin@xyvision.com
Subj: JDs FIVE STAR Guide to the NCAAs
Yessireebee babes and babettes, its that time again, NCAA tourney time,
the first round. The time of cinderella's, Davids vs. Goliaths, and
TVhoopathons galore!
Here I go, my picks for the first round, (don't bet the
house): (PS. Suitable for posting...) ;-)
MIDWEST BRACKET:
Kansas (1) vs. Colgate (16) - The jayhawks will show their purly whites
againts the Tubesters. Gleeming bright, rock chalk Jayhawk ready to
crest the wave. Will hit big red like a arm and hammer. pick: Kansas
Western Kentucky (8) vs. Michigan (9) - What da heck are Fishbone's
Fakers doing in da field of 64 anyhow. THIRTEEN LOSSES. Thirteen!!!
Moonshine special: Western Kentucky
Arizona (5) vs. Miami-Ohio (12) - Tougher matchup then folks expect.
Upset special, Cats tamed. Pick: Miami-Ohio
Virginia (4) vs. Nicholls St (13) - I wouldn't bet a pretty penny on
Nicholls State. The Cavs will draw and quarter them. Nicholls will be
as sucessful as the Susan B. Anthony dollar! Pick: Virginia!
Memphis State (6) vs. Louisville (11) - Now, I like Denny Crum, and
like the Cardinals, but THIRTEEN LOSSES!!! Out of general principal,
and respect for the King, I must go with: Memphis State
Purdue (3) vs. Wisconsin-Green Bay (14) - The Boilermakers will make
Wisco-GB pack it in for the season. Even with Bolts Removed Keady at
the helm. Pick: Purdue
Syracuse (7) vs. Southern Illinois (10) - Tourney time, and Jim
Baywhine - like oil and chocolate, not a great combo. However, I do
believe SIU is Walt Fraziers alma-mater, but I think the Orangemen will
squeeze out a victory. Pick: Syracuse
Arkansas (2) vs. Texas Southern (15) - So I hear a Mexican horn? Do I
see Sam Bowie and Davey Crockett? Cuz man, it sure seems like Alamo
time to me. Pick: Arkansas
SOUTHEAST BRACKET
Kentucky (1) vs. Mount St. Mary's (16) - I just hope the Wildcats are
gentle and use the proper precautions and practice safe wipeout while
mounting St. Mary's.
Pick: Kentucky
Brigham Young (8) vs. Tulane (9) - What a matchup! Salt Lake vs. New
Orleans. Tulane avenges the stealing of the Jazz! Pick: Green Wave of Tulane
Arizona State (5) vs. Ball State (12) - As long as Lute keeps the
frequent flyer coupons from littering the floor, they should roll over
and Bounce Ball State out of Memphis!
Pick: Arizona "Friendly Skies" State
Oklahoma (4) vs. Manhatten (13) - Well, well, well. Billy Tubbs could
be brain daid enough to blow this. But I think the Boys from the Big
Apple will be hard pressed to make this a_A_peeling game! Getting to
the core of it, should be easy as pie. Pick: Oklahoma.
Georgetown (6) vs. Xavier-Ohio (11) - Two Words:: Allan Iverson.
Pick: Georgetown
Michigan St. (3) vs. Weber St (14) - Jud's Magical Mystery Farewell
Tour begins with the Spartans grilling Weber State, smoking them early
and keeping the heat on. Pick: MSU
Iowas State (7) vs. Florida (10) - What the heck is Florida doing in
here anyway? Image: Florida is a mobile home park, Iowa State are
Cyclones. Nuff Said. Pick: Iowa St.
North Carolina (2) vs. Murray St !15) - The Snuffer gets ready for
another glorious fall, but not against this squad.
Pick: North Carolina
EAST BRACKET
Wake Forest (1) vs. North Carolina A&T (16) - Wake is the weakest #1
seed I've seen in a long time. Lets hope the A&T stands for Alchohol
and tabaccy, cusz that's the only thing that could get you through this
game. Pick: Wake
Minnesota (8) vs. St. Louis (9) - Golden Gophers vs. Billikens. Nuff
Said. Pick: St. Louis
Alabama (5) vs. Pennsylvania (12) - Imagine the conversations these
teams could have. Sort of like Jethro meets the Master Cylinder. I'm
not as high on Bama as a lot of folks, but don't think Bama is quaking
over this matchup. Pick: Bama (Grudgingly)
Oklahoma State (4) vs. Drexel (13) - The pivot matchup will be great.
Two wide bodies. BUt I like the one hit wonder Big Country to slay the
Dragon. Pick: OSU
Tulsa (6) vs. Illinois (11)) - Big Ten really must have sucked up to
the committee this year. Tulsa will leave the Illinois faithful minus
inois. Pick: Tulsa
Villanova (3) vs. Old Dominion (14) - Old Dominion sounds like a
scotch, or rum. Villanova sounds like a place on the Riveria. One
word: Kittles. Pick: Nova
UNC-Charlotte (7) vs. Standford (10) - UNC-Charlotte gave us Cornbread
Maxwell. Standord gave us Jim Plunkett and John Elway. Nuff Said.
Pick: UNC-Cornbread
UMass (2) vs. St. Peters (15) - As long as the essay section is only
worth 15%, and they are allowed to bring their 'Hooked on Phonics'
tapes with them, the Minutemen should storm through the gates and beat
St. Pete's. Then may not be able to spell 'St. Peter', but they will
beat them in hoops. Pick: U-M-A-S-S Good Class.
WEST BRACKET
UCLA (1) vs. Florida International (16) - Eighteen Losses.
18. One and Eight. ELEVEN wins. Gotta love it. Even UCLA should
have enough thought process to pull this one out.
Pick: UCLA
Missouri (8) vs. Indiana (9) - Want to see Bob KNight vs. UCLA in the
next round. Pick: Indiana
Mississippi State (5) vs. Santa Clara (12) - Two words;
Who cares? Pick: Mississippi St. (Note for UMASS, when ST. is in
front of name, it means SAINT. When behind, means STATE) HTH.
Utah (4) vs. Long Beach State (13) - Every year Utah makes the
tourney, showcasing a teamful of potential Celtics first round picks.
If this was Baseball, I'd go with LBS. But this is hoops. Pick: Utah.
Oregon (6) VS. TEXAS (11) - Two teams going no where. Upset special: Texas
Maryland (3) vs. Gonzaga (14) - Mr. Smith, meet the basket.
Gonzaga, meet the bus. You going home. Pick: Maryland
Cincinnati (7) vs. Temple (10) - John Chaney always makes me laugh.
Owls don't give a hoot bout records, its tourney time, and I go with: Temple
UCONN (2) vs. Tenn-Chattanooga (15) - Pardon me boy, is that
Chattanooga's Team Bus .. Yes Yes .. Don't turn it off, it will be a
short stay. Uconn sets up a Calhoon/Chaney second round matchup. Two
words: Ray Allen
Pick: UCONN
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| 14.1136 | Cyclones vs. the Mobile Home Park - too funny... | PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing | Wed Mar 15 1995 18:01 | 7 |
| >Iowas State (7) vs. Florida (10) - What the heck is Florida doing in
>here anyway? Image: Florida is a mobile home park, Iowa State are
>Cyclones. Nuff Said. Pick: Iowa St.
I miss JD.
Mark.
|
| 14.1137 | | CAMONE::WAY | USS Triton, SS-201, On Eternal Patrol | Wed Mar 15 1995 18:05 | 12 |
| > -< Cyclones vs. the Mobile Home Park - too funny... >-
>
>>Iowas State (7) vs. Florida (10) - What the heck is Florida doing in
>>here anyway? Image: Florida is a mobile home park, Iowa State are
>>Cyclones. Nuff Said. Pick: Iowa St.
>
> I miss JD.
Yeah, me too. Man, I remember some times out in Seattle....
I miss the vintage JD small college football scores too....
|
| 14.1138 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Wed Mar 15 1995 18:07 | 3 |
|
Even I found that entertaining. 'Jethro meets the Master Cylinder',
I wish I came up with that one, it's a gem.
|
| 14.1139 | | CAMONE::WAY | USS Triton, SS-201, On Eternal Patrol | Wed Mar 15 1995 18:58 | 10 |
| >
> Even I found that entertaining. 'Jethro meets the Master Cylinder',
> I wish I came up with that one, it's a gem.
>
Yeah, that one had me rollin' here too. Every once in a while JD
comes up with a winner of an expression....
'Saw
|
| 14.1140 | classic JD | MKFSA::LONG | Let your tongue hang out. Stay cool. | Wed Mar 15 1995 19:29 | 5 |
| It must be his oversized lats that give him that ability to make
everyone laugh!
billl
|
| 14.1141 | Dean Smith-West doesn't coach ASU | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 13:48 | 6 |
| 14.1142 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 15:39 | 5 |
| Early first half scores:
Miami (Ohio) 15, Arizona 10
Oklahoma 6, Manhattan 5
Wake Forest 7, North Carolina A&T 2
|
| 14.1143 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 15:59 | 5 |
|
Mmmmmm
Keep em comin!!!
|
| 14.1144 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 16:37 | 3 |
| 10:00 left, 2nd half, Miami (Ohio) 51, Arizona 47
14:54 left, 2nd half, Manhattan 40, Oklahoma 38
2nd half, Wake FOrest 49, North Carolina A&T 26
|
| 14.1145 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 16:54 | 5 |
|
Miami(OH) 60 Arizona 50 6:05 Left
Manhatten 52 Oklahoma 46 9:50 left
Wake Forest 64 NC A&T 33 7:51 left
|
| 14.1146 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 16:53 | 4 |
| > Miami(OH) 60 Arizona 50 6:05 Left
Since they have gone to 16 teams per regional, every year there has
been a #12 seed upsetting a #5 seed. Will it be Miami this year ?
|
| 14.1147 | not over till its over ask popa | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:01 | 4 |
| Before anyone panics, Miami had Penn State by 15 with 8 minutes to go
last night before the refs decidec to use rugby rules and Miami stopped
shooting (don't know if they started but they were scoring inside at
will until State found out the mugging was legal in NIT at home).
|
| 14.1148 | haw haw | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:04 | 1 |
| 14.1149 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:08 | 7 |
|
Miami 64 Arizona 61 2:05 left
Manhatten 67 Oklahoma 53 5:32 left
Wake up by a ton
|
| 14.1150 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:05 | 6 |
| 54 seconds left. Arizona has cut a double digit lead down to
two and with the basketball, but Williams called for the charge.
Miami leads 64,62; their point guard has suffered a groin pull
(allowing UA back into the game).
Manhattan leads OU by 9, Wake by 30+ in the second half.
|
| 14.1151 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:09 | 7 |
| Devon Davis, who had 13 points, 9 rebounds at the half,
hits a key basket with about 28 seconds to go. Stoudamire
brings the ball down, loses it off his foot, Miami a breakaway,
68-62. Play has stopped with 14 seconds left (I believe Miami
will be at the line).
Manhattan, amazingly, a 14 point second half lead.
|
| 14.1152 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:13 | 3 |
|
Jeez, I guess some of you were right. Manhattan really doesn't belong
here with the big boys...
|
| 14.1153 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:15 | 5 |
| Miami beats Arizona, 71-62.
Devon Davis 24 points, a career-high 15 rebounds.
Damon Stoudamire scores 18 points (for those of us who picked him).
Manhattan leads Oklahoma 71-58, about 1 minute left.
|
| 14.1154 | Just Wondering????????? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:23 | 3 |
|
Wake Score??
|
| 14.1155 | Count on the PAC-10 to choke .. | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | I have no answers | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:26 | 5 |
| >> Miami beats Arizona, 71-62.
So much for the "new and improved" PAC-10 ... overrated again?!?
Vinny
|
| 14.1156 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:23 | 7 |
| Wake Forest beats North Carolina A&T, 79-47.
Miami (Ohio) beats Arizona, 71-62.
Manhattan beats Oklahoma, 77-67.
Manhattan picks up its first NCAA tournament victory ever.
Miami picks up its first win in the NCAA tournament since 1978.
Wake dominated throughout.
|
| 14.1157 | Most Overated conference in the nation...... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:32 | 6 |
|
Yep. That Pac 10 is on fire!!!
Look for Oregon and Stanford to be the next two sacrificial lambs, than
ASu and lastly UCLA
|
| 14.1158 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:34 | 5 |
|
I'd like to take this opportunity to point out the fact that,
at this moment, I'm 3 for 3 in the tourny contest. B^)
Joe
|
| 14.1159 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:35 | 3 |
|
Parade in Cleveland in APril
|
| 14.1160 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:37 | 9 |
|
>I'd like to take this opportunity to point out the fact that,
>at this moment, I'm 3 for 3 in the tourny contest. B^)
Way to go Joe!!!
|
| 14.1161 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Red Sox > Syracuse Hoopsters | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:40 | 5 |
| > -< Most Overated conference in the nation...... >-
A few years ago *experts* like Vitale claimed the Big-8 was the best
conference in the country and they left the tournament as fast as they
came.
|
| 14.1162 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Globe 2, Calipari 1 | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:48 | 6 |
|
He might be 3-0 now, but he picked Penn, Florida International,
Mt. St. Marys and Miami (OH) for his final 4. With Penn winning the
whole enchala.
Ron
|
| 14.1163 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 17:51 | 8 |
| > He might be 3-0 now, but he picked Penn, Florida International,
> Mt. St. Marys and Miami (OH) for his final 4. With Penn winning the
> whole enchala.
>
> Ron
At least it's possible; I don't think any of the rest of us could be
63-0 at this point.
|
| 14.1164 | haw haw | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:06 | 2 |
| 14.1165 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:18 | 9 |
|
Nicholls State 8 14:59 left in 1st half
Virginia 6
St. Louis 19 11:25 left in the half
Minnesota 3 (yes '3')
UConn 22 10:58 left in the half
Tenn-Chat 9
|
| 14.1166 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:20 | 2 |
|
Come on, Tenn-Chat...
|
| 14.1167 | | CAMONE::WAY | USS Triton, SS-201, On Eternal Patrol | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:25 | 21 |
|
>Arizona (5) vs. Miami-Ohio (12) - Tougher matchup then folks expect.
>Upset special, Cats tamed. Pick: Miami-Ohio
>Oklahoma (4) vs. Manhatten (13) - Well, well, well. Billy Tubbs could
>be brain daid enough to blow this. But I think the Boys from the Big
>Apple will be hard pressed to make this a_A_peeling game! Getting to
>the core of it, should be easy as pie. Pick: Oklahoma.
>Wake Forest (1) vs. North Carolina A&T (16) - Wake is the weakest #1
>seed I've seen in a long time. Lets hope the A&T stands for Alchohol
>and tabaccy, cusz that's the only thing that could get you through this
>game. Pick: Wake
JD is 2/3....that's not bad.
Guess he wasn't so wrong on the Arizona game....
|
| 14.1168 | We can see these picks were well-researched... ;-) | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | NLRB, men of judicial integrity | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:32 | 13 |
|
>Oklahoma (4) vs. Manhatten (13) - Well, well, well. Billy Tubbs could
>be brain daid enough to blow this. But I think the Boys from the Big
>Apple will be hard pressed to make this a_A_peeling game! Getting to
>the core of it, should be easy as pie. Pick: Oklahoma.
'Course Billy Tubbs is long gone, so by reverse logic Calvin Sampson
couldn't be brain daid enough, the Boys from the Apple won't be hard
pressed, not as easy as pie, pick-- Manhattan: JD's on the money
again.
glenn
|
| 14.1169 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:39 | 13 |
| All three games at the half...
Nicholls State 27
Virginia 31
St. Louis 38
Minnesota 25
UConn 45
Tenn-Chat 25
|
| 14.1170 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:40 | 7 |
|
I missed this score...
Arizona St. 33 Ball St. 21 4:24 left in the half
|
| 14.1171 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:40 | 1 |
| ASU 37, Ball State 28 with a little over a minute in the half.
|
| 14.1172 | ASU is too quick for them | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:47 | 3 |
| 14.1173 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 16 1995 18:56 | 7 |
| UVa 49, Nicholls State 31. Cavs are dominating the second half,
have hit three straight 3-pointers.
SLU 43, Minnesota 37. Gophers making a comeback.
UConn 54, UTC 35. Mocs have cut 1 point off that UConn halftime
lead.
|
| 14.1174 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:02 | 7 |
|
1 More update before 4:15 would be heavily appreciated. :-)
Chap
|
| 14.1175 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:07 | 1 |
| 14.1176 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:12 | 11 |
|
ASU 51 Ball St. 36 16:00 left
Virginia 55 Nicholls 35 11:50 left
St. Loius 54 Minn. 44 6:56 left
Uconn 70 Tenn-Chat 46 8:59 left
|
| 14.1177 | Go UVA, Go huskies | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:14 | 3 |
|
Thanks
|
| 14.1178 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:33 | 11 |
|
ASU 62 Ball St. 45 10:47 left
Virginia 75 Nicholls 52 5:45 left
St. Loius 55 Minn. 54 2:00 left Got close in a hurry!!!!
Uconn 91 Tenn-Chat 56 3:00 left
|
| 14.1179 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:34 | 4 |
|
St. Louis 56 Minn, 56
3 seconds left!!!
|
| 14.1180 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:36 | 5 |
|
St. Louis 56 Minn, 56 OT!!!!
|
| 14.1181 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:42 | 8 |
|
UConn 100 Tenn-Chat. 71 Final
Donny Marshall 22 Ray Allen 18
|
| 14.1182 | 1 Arizona team advances | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:47 | 6 |
| 14.1183 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Red Sox > Syracuse Hoopsters | Thu Mar 16 1995 19:55 | 12 |
| > Is this Donny Marshall related to Donyell?
No.
> ASU *TROUNCES* Ball St. 81-66. Frieder remains undefeated in round 1.
> So much for the weak PAC, bring on Manhattan!
Mike, Ball St. was the #4 seed from a middle-piddle-at-best conference.
The PAC-10 has been heralded most of the season as one of the two best
conferences in the country, with the ACC. Given that Ari is gone already,
I'd say you don't have too much to crow about.
|
| 14.1184 | 1 bad lemon don't spoil the whole bunch | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 20:13 | 2 |
| 14.1185 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Red Sox > Syracuse Hoopsters | Thu Mar 16 1995 20:14 | 5 |
| If your name is SPUD, please do NOT hit <CR>....
otherwise, enjoy....
St. Louis 64, Minnesota 61 (OT)
|
| 14.1186 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Thu Mar 16 1995 20:28 | 9 |
|
I have to go home. My last update of the day....
Temple 18 11:16 left in the 1st half
Cincy 11
|
| 14.1187 | haw haw | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Mar 16 1995 20:37 | 4 |
| 14.1188 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The dream is always the same... | Fri Mar 17 1995 10:35 | 7 |
| 14.1189 | surfs up! | MKFSA::LONG | Let your tongue hang out. Stay cool. | Fri Mar 17 1995 10:42 | 4 |
| Anyone know of a WWW site for this year's NCAA tourney?
billl
|
| 14.1190 | NCAA WWW site | MKFSA::LONG | Let your tongue hang out. Stay cool. | Fri Mar 17 1995 11:01 | 7 |
| Answerin' my own question....
http://web1.starwave.com/ncb/ncaatourny/
billl
|
| 14.1191 | 1st round results from yesterday. 12-4 for me! | NETCAD::NISKALA | This IS the year for the Huskers! | Fri Mar 17 1995 11:24 | 18 |
|
ALABAMA 91, Pennsylvania 85
ARIZONA STATE 81, Ball State 66
CINCINNATI 77, Temple 71
CONNECTICUT 100, Tennessee Chat 71
KANSAS 82, Colgate 68
KENTUCKY 113, Mt St Marys 67
Manhattan 77, OKLAHOMA 67
MARYLAND 87, Gonzaga 63
Miami Ohio 71, ARIZONA 62
OKLAHOMA STATE 73, Drexel 49
St Louis 64, MINNESOTA 61
Texas 90, OREGON 73
Tulane 76, BYU 70
VIRGINIA 96, Nicholls State 72
WAKE FOREST 79, North Carolina A&T 47
WESTERN KENTUCKY 82, Michigan 76
|
| 14.1192 | oops, notes collision | MKFSA::LONG | Have a grand bonnie day! | Fri Mar 17 1995 11:29 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1193 | Conference records so far ... | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | I have no answers | Fri Mar 17 1995 12:07 | 24 |
|
ACC: 3-0 (Virgina 1-0) (Wake Forest 1-0)
(Maryland 1-0) (North Carolina 0-0)
SEC: 2-0 (Kentucky 1-0) (Alabama 1-0)
(Arkansas 0-0) (Florida 0-0)
(Mississippi St 0-0)
Big East: 1-0 (UConn 1-0) (Syracuse 0-0)
(Georgetown 0-0) (Villanova 0-0)
Big Eight: 2-1 (Kansas 1-0) (Oklahoma St 1-0)
(Oklahoma 0-1) (Missouri 0-0)
(Iowa St 0-0)
Pac 10: 1-2 (Arizona St 1-0) (Oregon 0-1)
(Arizona 0-1) (UCLA 0-0)
(Stanford 0-0)
Atlantic 10: 0-1 (Temple 0-1) (UMass 0-0)
Big 1T1en: 0-2 (Michigan 0-1) (Minnesota 0-1)
(Michigan St 0-0) (Indiana 0-0)
(Illinois 0-0) (Purdue 0-0)
|
| 14.1194 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 12:12 | 5 |
| going as expected...
Anyone in the Boston area know which game is being televised at 12noon
here ?
|
| 14.1195 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 12:19 | 4 |
|
12:25 Syracuse So ILL!!!!
|
| 14.1196 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 12:35 | 16 |
|
>http://web1.starwave.com/ncb/ncaatourny/
This is the site I've been pulling the scores/time-left
reports from, both yesterday and last week for the conference tourny's.
Yesterday, there were long stretches when I couldn't get in
for an update. I think word got out about their in-game updates.
Do people want me to try and post updates again today, or am I
being a bother???
JimH
|
| 14.1197 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 12:44 | 4 |
|
Post em Please Post em!!!
|
| 14.1198 | Big ten - NOT! | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Neural net needs new string | Fri Mar 17 1995 12:48 | 4 |
| Post the updates. I like to keep an eye on the strongest conference on
the face of the earth (Big Ten):-).
UMDan
|
| 14.1199 | looking forward to McDyess vs. Reeves | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 17 1995 13:01 | 12 |
|
according to the TV this one might work as well:
http://www.cbs.com/
that's supposed to be CBS' own.
wow TV actually got it right atleast here in the East giving us Penn/Bama
and W. Kent/Michigan. Two exciting games. Thought about going to bed when
Michigan got the 14 point lead but I then I remember it was Michigan...
;^)
|
| 14.1200 | 11-5 so far (only 2 of the 5 will cost me) | MKFSA::LONG | Have a grand bonnie day! | Fri Mar 17 1995 13:13 | 5 |
| Hard to believe McDyess is only a sophmore. That guy is a force!
billl
|
| 14.1201 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 13:37 | 5 |
| > wow TV actually got it right atleast here in the East
Yeah, great games. So far the 1st round has had more good games than
yawners. It should continue today with Memphis-Louis, G'town-Xavier,
Pur-WisGB, Tulsa-Ill, Missou-Ind...
|
| 14.1202 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Fri Mar 17 1995 13:46 | 3 |
| 14.1203 | Big10 - YES! | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Mar 17 1995 13:47 | 7 |
| I still think you'll see two or three Big10 teams make the Sweet 16 -
which is what I predicted a week or two ago. No real suprise my Gophs
and Michigan are out of it at this point. Just like Syracuse will
probably fall today...
Spud
|
| 14.1204 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Fri Mar 17 1995 13:56 | 8 |
| You're right about Michigan - they were having their WAY with Western
and I put that one and myself to bed.
Btw, announcers said the UMass - Wkent. game was at Mullins. Somehow I
thought it was played elsewhere. UMass domination there was certainly
discounted in final rankings.
Syracuse and Indiana are big for my hopes.
|
| 14.1205 | Don't Look to CBS | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Fri Mar 17 1995 14:08 | 1 |
| There were no game updates at the CBS Web site during yesterday's play
|
| 14.1206 | DD from Miami or ?? from St Pete's for best 'doo | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | I have no answers | Fri Mar 17 1995 14:09 | 20 |
| In the time honored tradition of SPROTS, congratulating
someone who cannot read it:
Here is a pat on the back to the NCAA Tournament Selection
Committee for a job well done .. what a thankless job those
guys have:
Spend a weekend in a hotel room pouring over stats and stats
to pick the 64 team field, then come out and get grilled by
the media over why so-and-so made it but so-and-so didn't ..
Here is to Manhattan for winning and to George Washington for
losing in the NIT for making the committee look good ..
And what is with Georgia Tech? Too good for the NIT? Snobby
attitude for a school that couldn't finish .500 in its own
conference ..
Vinny
|
| 14.1207 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 17 1995 15:24 | 73 |
| The way it works is if you picked a team that already got knocked out or
didn't make the tournement you get a 0 in that columun. In the case of
the other columun you get reduced by the amount of teams that either got
knocked out or didn't qualify........
this one is over on monday...good luck to me.. ;^)
mike
PLAYER |U|A|U|K|K|U|C|N|M|M|O|P|A|A|U|M|M|S|G|W|V|B|C|M|P|H|F|W|I|I|O|
|M|R|N|A|E|C|U|O|S|A|K|E|Z|Z|C|I|I|T|T|A|I|A|I|L|U|O|L|K|N|W|T|
|A|K|C|N|N|O|S|V|U|R|L|N| |S|L|N|S|N| |K|R|M|N|O|R|Y|A|T|D|A|H|
|S| | | |T|N|E|A| |Y|S|N| |T|A|N|S|D| |E|G|A|N|U|D|A| |Y| |S|R|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Ball |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|2|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
=Bob= |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boss |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Billlllllllll |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Billthe |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clark Burrows |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|
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MikeyC |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cadzilla |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chappy |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roland Duprez |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Garbarino |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Gronowski |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Garry |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|2|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Halpin |1|0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Haas |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ken Honer |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Huber |0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|2|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Heiser |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IMJimbo |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nazz |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Rollins |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vin Silvestri |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spud |0|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lyndon Wilkes |1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan Zogran |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other selections :
Kevin Ball : Tulane, Memphis
Roland Dupez: Memphis
Tom Garry : Utah, Xavier
Joe Huber : Xavier, Utah,
Nazz : Tulane
Rick Rollins: Santa Clara
|
| 14.1208 | | PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing | Fri Mar 17 1995 15:36 | 13 |
| > <<< Note 14.1191 by NETCAD::NISKALA "This IS the year for the Huskers!" >>>
> -< 1st round results from yesterday. 12-4 for me! >-
Big whoop.
I scored 13-3 and haven't watched a college b-ball game since BC's loss
last year to Florida.
If I didn't erroneously cut and past Ron Erickson's entry as my
base-line (Arizona St won the Oklahoma/Manhattan tilt!!) I coulda gone
14-2 since I didn't know any better anyhow.
Mark.
|
| 14.1209 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 15:40 | 10 |
|
Florida 17 Iowa St. 16 8:30 left in the half
Syracuse 19 So. Illinois 15 13:50 left in the half
Stanford 7 NC-Charlotte 6 15:56 left in the half
|
| 14.1210 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 15:48 | 9 |
|
Florida 24 Iowa St. 18 5:59 left in the half
Syracuse 23 So. Illinois 20 11:20 left in the half
Stanford 7 NC-Charlotte 9 14:15 left in the half
|
| 14.1211 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:03 | 7 |
|
Florida 36 Iowa St. 33 halftime
Syracuse 44 So. Illinois 40 2:00 left in the half
Stanford 14 NC-Charlotte 18 7:20 left in the half
|
| 14.1212 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:01 | 5 |
| Florida 36 Iowa St. 33 halftime
Syracuse 48 So. Illinois 46 halftime
|
| 14.1213 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:06 | 9 |
| Syracuse 48 So. Illinois 46 at the half
So Ill is in the game solely because of their 3-pt shooting. They are
10-12 from beyond the arc. And there have been a number of prayers.
Syracuse has gotten most of their scoring in the paint. So Ill has
no one who can stop Wallace and Hill.
Can't see So Ill continuing with this shooting.
|
| 14.1214 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:07 | 1 |
| Stanford 27, UNCC 26 2:06 remaining in the half
|
| 14.1215 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:16 | 5 |
|
but they won't have too. We all know SU goes belly up in the second half
and Boehiem doesn't know how to put on the brakes.......
mike
|
| 14.1216 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:19 | 2 |
| Iowa State 7-0 to start the second half, leads Florida 40-36
with 17:31 left, time out.
|
| 14.1217 | College BBall >>>> NBA | BSS::MENDEZ | | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:23 | 5 |
| Scoring updates, wild finishes, top seeded teams going belly-up...
There is nothing more exciting than "March Madness"!!!!
I don't see how college football playoffs could match the drama...
|
| 14.1218 | | SUBSYS::FORDE | ton si emit tub, elbisrever si cisum | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:24 | 6 |
| Florida 36 Iowa St. 33 - halftime
Syracuse 48 So. Illinois 46 - halftime
Stanford 30 NC-Charlotte 26 - 1:37 left in the half
|
| 14.1219 | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:24 | 5 |
|
College BBall it's FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNtastic
|
| 14.1220 | | MKFSA::LONG | Have a grand bonnie day! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:30 | 8 |
| >There is nothing more exciting than "March Madness"!!!!
>I don't see how college football playoffs could match the drama...
I'd sure like to see them give it a try.
billl
|
| 14.1221 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:32 | 9 |
|
Florida 42 Iowa St. 42 15:30 left
Syracuse 60 So. Illinois 52 16:10 left
Stanford 30 NC-Charlotte 26 halftime
|
| 14.1222 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:44 | 1 |
| Syracuse 75 So. Illinois 69 7:33 left
|
| 14.1223 | a match made in heaven | MKFSA::LONG | Have a grand bonnie day! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:45 | 6 |
| >>TOOK::HALPIN "I need to be shoved by somebody!!!"
You and Tommy Brydie really should get together.
billl
|
| 14.1224 | Thumbs Down on CBS | WREATH::SCOPA | | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:45 | 9 |
| Give me the days when ESPN had the first round games.
Yesterday when I got home I wanted to watch bball not OJ, F.Lee,
and the News with Dan Rather....arrrrrrrrrrrrghhh!
How can ESPN pay big bucks for baseball and let the NCAA get away from
them?
Maj
|
| 14.1225 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:55 | 1 |
| Syracuse 83 So. Illinois 77 3:28 left
|
| 14.1226 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:57 | 11 |
|
>>>TOOK::HALPIN "I need to be shoved by somebody!!!"
>
>You and Tommy Brydie really should get together.
You apparently haven't been reading the UMass topic this week...
:-)
|
| 14.1227 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 16:59 | 10 |
|
Florida 61 Iowa St. 59 1:05 left
Syracuse 83 So. Illinois 77 3:28 left
Stanford 46 NC-Charlotte 46 11:10
|
| 14.1228 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:02 | 3 |
| Florida 61 Iowa St. 64 :17 left
SU 86, So Ill 79 1:50 left
|
| 14.1229 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:05 | 10 |
|
Florida 61 Iowa St. 62 0:22 left
Syracuse 86 So. Illinois 77 1:55 left
Stanford 53 NC-Charlotte 52 8:00
|
| 14.1230 | Help Me Out Joe!! | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:02 | 3 |
| Was that a misprint having the lower score first Joe???
Can you get back to me?!
|
| 14.1231 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:06 | 3 |
| Florida 61 Iowa St. 64 FINAL
SU 88, So Ill 82 :44 left
|
| 14.1232 | Jim | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:07 | 5 |
|
>Was that a misprint having the lower score first Joe???
No, I'm just edditing the same file as the scores change....
|
| 14.1233 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:10 | 8 |
|
Oh please hold onto that 5 1\2 pt lead 'cuse.
Chap :-)
|
| 14.1234 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:10 | 1 |
| SU 92, So Ill 89 :10 left
|
| 14.1235 | Syracuse Hiemlich time???? | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:12 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1236 | not this time...no "D" on the other side | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:16 | 8 |
| SU 96, So Ill 92 FINAL
So Ill made something like 15 3-ptrs, the last 2 beyond NBA range with
a hand in the face. It's the only reason they stayed in the game, as
SU was something like 19-23 from the field in the 2nd half...absolutely
NO interior defense to deal with Wallace (24pts) and Hill (16?).
Luke Jackson had 6 3-ptrs, and hit 2 huge FTs at the end.
|
| 14.1237 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:18 | 8 |
|
Oh well, I had Syracuse winning this round anyway... :-)
NC-Charl. 63 Stanford 60 with 4:13 left....
|
| 14.1238 | am radio for U Mass game? | HOTLNE::RLAMONT | | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:19 | 3 |
| Does anyone know a Massachusetts am radio station that would be
carrying the U Mass game???
Thanks much!
|
| 14.1239 | Arkansas by 20? | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:21 | 5 |
| In other words Joe, Syracuse was lucky to escape. If there had been
two more minutes, they'd have been cooked. ;*)
Spud
|
| 14.1240 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:22 | 5 |
|
WXKS AM 1430 -according to the Herald....
|
| 14.1241 | WBZ for UMASS | HOTLNE::BRIAN | | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:25 | 1 |
| The UMASS game is also on WBZ 1030
|
| 14.1242 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:26 | 7 |
| > In other words Joe, Syracuse was lucky to escape. If there had been
> two more minutes, they'd have been cooked. ;*)
Sorry Spud, but they could have played all day and still won. So Ill
couldn't do anything with SU (67% FGs for the game). SU had many 8-9 pt
leads throughout the 2nd half. Every time the Salukis got close, it was
because they hit a couple consecutive 3s.
|
| 14.1243 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:30 | 6 |
|
Stanford 69 NC-Charl 66 with 0:42 left....
|
| 14.1244 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:33 | 8 |
|
Anyone know if Rasheed is playing or is he out?
Chap
|
| 14.1245 | If you're going to go out, go out BIG! :*) | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:33 | 6 |
| Joe,
Whatever... kiss it goodbye Sunday. :*O
Spud
|
| 14.1246 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:34 | 1 |
| Stanford goes on a 12-5 run to end the game and win, 70-68.
|
| 14.1247 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:38 | 5 |
|
Stanford 70 NC-Charlotte 68 FINAL
|
| 14.1248 | oh gee, another weak PAC team wins | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:39 | 1 |
| 14.1249 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:54 | 16 |
| > -< If you're going to go out, go out BIG! :*) >-
> Whatever... kiss it goodbye Sunday. :*O
I'm not a foolish, blind fan_atic. I know this team all too well.
They've got no chance of beating Ark. SU hasn't been blown-out
of ANY game this year, but they don't close-out wins. They don't
take care of the ball, miss too many FTs, and foul trying to play
defense at the end of the game. Ark is just the type of team they
can't beat...too much defensive pressure on the ball. But if SU
is going to lose, it'll be a lot easier on me knowing they lost
to the defending Nat'l Champs.
...I mean, it won't be like they lost to some school with a nickname
like the Bilikens....
|
| 14.1250 | | MKFSA::LONG | Have a grand bonnie day! | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:57 | 6 |
| re -1:
Sorry I shoulda SET MODE <HEAVY SARCASM> on my comment.
billl
|
| 14.1251 | Seeding Goofs? | WREATH::SCOPA | | Fri Mar 17 1995 17:59 | 19 |
| Almost 1/3 of the games played have ended up in "upsets." I also
estimate that three others could have ended up with the lower seed
winning (could have been close to 50%).
Does anyone share my thoughts that maybe these aren't upsets but just
indications that the selection committee didn't do a good job seeding
the teams?
How the heck do we get a 12 beating a 5, a 13 beating a 4, and an 11
beating a 6 in the first day of the tournament?
There's been one upset already today and almost another (*&^%$#@
Florida...yeah I had 'em) and I'd say that there's a good chance of
at least 4 more upset winners for the rest of today's slate.
Anyone want to give what they think are the 3 most flagrant mis-seeds
of the tourney? Shall we start off with Oklahoma, Manhattan, and Texas?
Maj
|
| 14.1252 | Salukies vs. Billikins | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:05 | 7 |
| No Bill, I think he's shooting at me. :*)
Just bustin' ya, Joe. I'm feeling the sting of losing to the Spoonhour
led Billikins.
Spud
|
| 14.1253 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:07 | 8 |
|
Utah 21 Long Beach 17 7:03 left in the half
NC 30 Murray St. 22 7:22 left in the half
Arkansas 17 Texas So. 5 12:32 left in the half
|
| 14.1254 | but if they get Spud's 20pts vs Ark.... | USCTR1::GARBARINO | Big10 0-2, Pac10 1-2 | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:12 | 6 |
| > NC 30 Murray St. 22 7:22 left in the half
BTW Chap, Wallace is playing.
....and I can't believe you'd ever wager on this Syracuse team...
|
| 14.1255 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:15 | 14 |
|
Wagered?????
:-)
I figured they could at least beat a team from Southern Illinois
by 6 measely pts?
But I'm sure when they started hitting there three's I bet Bumhead
kept his team in a 1 1 3 zone!!!
Chap
|
| 14.1256 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:22 | 11 |
|
St Peters 10 UMass 4 15:44 left in the half
Utah 31 Long Beach 25 3:05 left in the half
NC 39 Murray St. 37 2:05 left in the half
Arkansas 25 Texas So. 18 7:11 left in the half
|
| 14.1257 | Unbelievable | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:22 | 6 |
| Did I hear right? NC is losing to Murray St 44-41 at halftime?
Hahahahaha!
Spud
|
| 14.1258 | | TOOK::HALPIN | I need to be shoved by somebody!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:24 | 11 |
|
St Peters 14 UMass 14 11:20 left in the half
Utah 39 Long Beach 28 Halftime
NC 41 Murray St. 44 Halftime !!!!!!!!
Arkansas 32 Texas So. 23 5:25 left in the half
|
| 14.1259 | A vote for a Syracuse win over Arkansas | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:36 | 6 |
| Personally I think Syracuse has a good chance vs Arkansas. They have
the talent and Arkansas has been real funny this year.
Also the Big East seems to prepare teams very well for post season
although the talent may not always be there. A lot will depend on the
refs and the game is in Austin but 'cuse likes these kind of games.
|
| 14.1260 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:37 | 9 |
|
Rasheed wallace showed what he was made out of when he
went down in the Wake Forest. Judging by the tears stream-
ing down his cheeks, you'd have thought they'd have to
amputate. As it turned out, all he had was a sprained
ankle and he's playing to day. Tough as an robin's egg
that Rasheed. Sooner or later he'll punk out and UNC
will go down. It would be truly shocking if that
happened today.
|
| 14.1261 | | TOOK::HALPIN | HELP! I've been shoved and I can't get up!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:41 | 10 |
|
St Peters 22 UMass 20 4:30 left in the half
Utah 39 Long Beach 28 19:55 left
NC 41 Murray St. 44 Halftime
Arkansas 46 Texas So. 35 Halftime
|
| 14.1262 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:47 | 3 |
| > It would be truly shocking if that happened today.
but certainly enjoyable........
|
| 14.1263 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:49 | 3 |
|
Very enjoyable!!
|
| 14.1264 | What's Murray St.? The Racers??? | TOOK::HALPIN | HELP! I've been shoved and I can't get up!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:51 | 12 |
|
St Peters 24 UMass 25 1:50 left in the half
Utah 45 Long Beach 36 15:00 left
NC 50 Murray St. 51 14:45 Left
Arkansas 46 Texas So. 35 Halftime
|
| 14.1265 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:52 | 4 |
|
if it does happen does anyone have an internet address for Ack Ack???
mike
|
| 14.1266 | | TOOK::HALPIN | HELP! I've been shoved and I can't get up!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:52 | 6 |
|
I thought Wallace had broken his leg the other day.
What a wimp!!!
|
| 14.1267 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:53 | 8 |
|
You know, this year's tournament has, to this point, been quite
enjoyable. Even the games that haven't gone as I might have
hoped have usually been good, close games.
Now all this tournament needs is a FIT upset of UCLA...
Joe
|
| 14.1268 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:56 | 5 |
|
Where's Murray State?
Lets go Racers Lets Go!!!
|
| 14.1269 | heard it here firsted | MKFSA::LONG | Have a grand bonnie day! | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:58 | 7 |
| >Now all this tournament needs is a FIT upset of UCLA...
It's coming in the regionals against Miss St.
billl
|
| 14.1270 | But I's like an FIU victory, too ... | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 18:57 | 6 |
| > Now all this tournament needs is a FIT upset of UCLA...
>
> Joe
A small nit, it's FIU (Florida International University). FIT is
Florida Tech.
|
| 14.1271 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:02 | 6 |
|
Hmmm... I was thinking it was FIT for some reason.
FIU, FIT, whatever... just so long as they win...
Joe
|
| 14.1272 | | TOOK::HALPIN | HELP! I've been shoved and I can't get up!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:06 | 11 |
|
Utah 57 Long Beach 44 10:45 Left
NC 60 Murray St. 58 7:43 left
UMAss 33 St. Peters 27 Halftime
Arkansas 53 Texas So. 52 13:04 left
|
| 14.1273 | Three high seeds in trouble!!! | TOOK::HALPIN | Go Murray St. Racers!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:16 | 12 |
|
Utah 61 Long Beach 52 8:00 Left
NC 62 Murray St. 58 6:15 left
UMAss 35 St. Peters 35 18:10 left
Arkansas 65 Texas So. 63 9:20 left
|
| 14.1274 | UMass losing to the Peacocks!!! | TOOK::HALPIN | Go Murray St. Racers!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:31 | 12 |
|
Utah 67 Long Beach 57 3:55 Left
NC 74 Murray St. 68 1:19 left
UMAss 44 St. Peters 46 12:18 left
Arkansas 73 Texas So. 69 5:37 left
|
| 14.1275 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:31 | 6 |
| Looks like UNC will win, UNC 78-70, 0:41 left.
Serge Zwikker with 19 points for the Tar Heels (a career high).
About 2 minutes left, Arkansas 77-75 over Texas Southern.
[Don't forget, Arkansas had only a 4-5 point lead until about 3
minutes left last year against N.C.A&T in the first round.]
|
| 14.1276 | | TOOK::HALPIN | Go Murray St. Racers!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:39 | 12 |
|
Utah 75 Long Beach 63 0:37 Left
NC 78 Murray St. 70 0:38 left
UMAss 52 St. Peters 49 8:27 left
Arkansas 77 Texas So. 76 0:58 left
|
| 14.1277 | Umass woke up. I got to go. Have a good weekend everybody! | TOOK::HALPIN | Go Murray St. Racers!!!! | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:48 | 11 |
|
Utah 76 Long Beach 64 FINAL
NC 80 Murray St. 70 FINAL
UMAss 65 St. Peters 51 3:10 left
Arkansas 79 Texas So. 78 0:03 left
|
| 14.1278 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 19:56 | 6 |
| UMAss 65 St. Peters 51 3:10 left
Arkansas 79 Texas Southern 78 final
|
| 14.1279 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 17 1995 20:00 | 2 |
| Final: Massachusetts 68, St.Peter's 51
|
| 14.1280 | Not to speak of Ms Derry | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Fri Mar 17 1995 20:22 | 5 |
| >Arkansas 79 Texas Southern 78 final
The huge sigh of relief emitted by messieurs
Brydie,Waugaman,Chappy,McCullough and several others just shook the
building here
|
| 14.1281 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Mon Mar 20 1995 11:00 | 21 |
|
boo hoo hoo...bye bye Nova. Hats off to Old Dominion. If it took 25 overtime
they were going to win they just wanted it more. Again the winner of the
Big East tournement takes an early powder. Hey Billte maybe you were right
about JT handing the game to UConn to save the troups.
Big Ten 1-7? Must be something to those RPI rankings. Certainly lots of
exciting finishes. Too bad COMMERCIAL Broadcasting Service doesn't know
how to handle them. GOd forbid they switch from a game that just finished
to a game in progress without that dam commerical break. Please bring back
ESPN!!!!!!!
Still think the most exciting game I watched was Penn/Bama.
Hoyas against UNC. I can't wait. With as physical as Georgetown plays
Dean ought have a coronary on the sidelines. Hopefully this time when he
steps on the court to protests how the big bad hoyas are roughing up his
boys they T him up. Wonder how long it will take Wallace's injury to act
up....
mike
|
| 14.1282 | | PCBUOA::MORGAN | | Mon Mar 20 1995 11:13 | 7 |
| Syracuse fans must be bummin' in a big way today. Obviously the kid
wasn't aware the arrow was pointing their way when he called a time out
with 4 seconds left.
There were some great finishes in yesterday's games.
Steve
|
| 14.1283 | Arkansas-Syracuse as good as it gets... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | NLRB, men of judicial integrity | Mon Mar 20 1995 12:15 | 26 |
|
> Syracuse fans must be bummin' in a big way today. Obviously the kid
> wasn't aware the arrow was pointing their way when he called a time out
> with 4 seconds left.
I'm beginning to believe that the coaches should share in some of the
grief over these no-timeouts-left fiascos, for wasting them almost
unnecessarily and leaving nothing in reserve for emergency (or poor
split-second decision-making). Later, in OT, Syracuse called another
critical TO with under 10 seconds left on the shot clock, putting
more pressure on the play, and sure enough, the inbounds was
intercepted. I like the Wooden philosophy: players are coached to
know what to do in almost all circumstances, putting the pressure on
the other team to react without benefit of in-game coaching.
Nonetheless, it still looked very good for Syracuse in OT, but Arkansas
came up with a heroic effort in those 5 minutes and deserves a lot of
credit for that. Syracuse kept putting the pressure on by taking all
those 2-point leads on relatively easy inside baskets against undermanned
Arkansas, but the Hogs kept returning serve with the killer outside
shooting. Fantastic OT performance by both teams (better than
Villanova-Old Dominion, I thought, where both teams were dog-tired and
seemed unable to do much to put the other away).
glenn
|
| 14.1284 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Mon Mar 20 1995 12:41 | 11 |
| | Nonetheless, it still looked very good for Syracuse in OT, but Arkansas
| came up with a heroic effort in those 5 minutes and deserves a lot of
Particularly since three of their top players had fouled out.
| The huge sigh of relief emitted by messieurs
| Brydie,Waugaman,Chappy,McCullough and several others just shook the
Yabut my dark horse final four team was 'Nova. Great pick, huh?
=bob=
|
| 14.1285 | I'm Out | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | God cares. | Mon Mar 20 1995 13:23 | 8 |
| My dark horse pick was Villanova too.
Ain't it great knowing you're out by the 1st round?
BTW, I think UMass looked really tough out there yesterday
and the draw is sure benefitting them.
Tony
|
| 14.1286 | Photo...erh...Frame Finish | WREATH::SCOPA | | Mon Mar 20 1995 13:52 | 9 |
| If any of you taped that Ark-Syr game check out the Ark steal with 36.3
seconds left on the OT. Did the ball cross the time line in the
designated 10 seconds or was there a violation?
Slow down your VCRs and check it out. If 100 people watch the tapew 50
will say they got it over the line in time and 50 will say the ball
should have gone to Syr.
Maj
|
| 14.1287 | Gotta love it! | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Neural net needs new string | Mon Mar 20 1995 13:58 | 9 |
| Big Ten - 1 - 6, no one in the Sweet Sixteen. Real powerhouse
conference, eh?
Some great games coning up - Da Terps vs UConn, G'Town vs UNC. Just
hoping that Smith stays hot.
Could be an all ACC final four!
UMDan
|
| 14.1288 | got nine of my early sweet-16 picks right! | MKFSA::LONG | Have a grand bonnie day! | Mon Mar 20 1995 13:59 | 11 |
| That was one exciting weekend! I went 22-10 in the firsted round,
11-5 in the second, with two of my "elite eight" history ('nova
and Michigan State), but so far all of my final four are still
hangin' on.
For my money, the Syracuse-Arkansas had the best finish. Unlike
the 'nova-OD game where both teams were physically drained, here
we had the starters fouling out and all the pressure dumped on the
bench players. Showed who had the most depth.
billl
|
| 14.1289 | CBS is the worst - by far!!!!!! | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Mon Mar 20 1995 14:04 | 8 |
| HOW BAD IS THE CBS COVERAGE????????????
This bad - they go to the coverage of the finish of the UCLA game AFTER
THE GAME IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE?!?!?!?!?!?
CAN'T SHOW 4.8 STINKIN' SECONDS?!?!?!?!?!? And no updates from the
5:30 mark to the 4.8 seconds spot. WHAT HAPPENED?!?!? LET US KNOW!!!!
NAZZ
|
| 14.1290 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Mon Mar 20 1995 14:14 | 5 |
| | This bad - they go to the coverage of the finish of the UCLA game AFTER
| THE GAME IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE?!?!?!?!?!?
| CAN'T SHOW 4.8 STINKIN' SECONDS?!?!?!?!?!? And no updates from the
Worse yet, that's where the game was decided...
|
| 14.1291 | Ark-Syr was tense but they could have dropped for 5 seconds | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Mar 20 1995 14:14 | 19 |
|
> This bad - they go to the coverage of the finish of the UCLA game AFTER
> THE GAME IS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE?!?!?!?!?!?
> CAN'T SHOW 4.8 STINKIN' SECONDS?!?!?!?!?!? And no updates from the
> 5:30 mark to the 4.8 seconds spot. WHAT HAPPENED?!?!? LET US KNOW!!!!
Judging from the scores they were flashing up, UCLA must have made a
nice 3-5 point comeback in the last 1:30 or so to take the lead before
Mizzou got it back with 4.8 seconds to go. I guess we'll never know.
Like you, Nazz, I thought annoying cut-ins to the primary game in a
given region was what CBS was supposed to be good at. Here we had a
tremendous finish that was completely obliterated.
One thing that CBS has made quite clear, though: they will cut in and
out of games at their discretion but they will _not_ drop or alter
commercial time. Somebody's got to pay da bills...
glenn
|
| 14.1292 | What A Weekend | STRATA::BARBIERI | God cares. | Mon Mar 20 1995 14:21 | 23 |
| I too was wondering about a back court violation. It just seemed
like it took a looooong time.
I have Villanova/UCLA/Arkansas/North Carolina for my final four
and with Villanova out, I was rooting for Syracuse and Missouri.
Syracuse can sure hold their heads up. By the way, the Globe said
it was Moten that called the time out and they distinguished him from
the guy that made the steal. What a tough game to lose!!
The thing I have to wonder about CBS is the split screen. Man, if
you're not sure what to do, THROW THE SPLIT SCREEN UP THERE!!!
When I saw that score with 4.7 seconds left, I said, "UCLA lost."
And then CBS shows a bunch of UCLA people celebrating! Wow, is that
PATHETIC!!!
Look at Georgetown's win too! The guy for Weber State misses the
front end of a 1 and 1 and Iverson just about airs a ball that a guy
reverse lay-ins from the rebound with no time remaining!!
March madness. Best sporting event of the entire year for me.
Tony
|
| 14.1293 | Bumheims epitaph: Never lost a game with timeouts remaining | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Mon Mar 20 1995 14:40 | 9 |
| Speaking of getting their commercials in.. I notice that in the final
seconds the coaches have to get all their timeouts in and as Glen
remarked old bumhead lost because of the practice. Why can't CBS
factor in the extra commercials they get in the end instead of
insisting on their scheduled ads.
Are these coaches advised to use up all their timeouts so ncaa can show
CBS how many great 'demand' commercials they got (on the pain,say, of
more stringent scrutiny of their recruiting practices).
|
| 14.1294 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Mon Mar 20 1995 14:45 | 6 |
| Just be happy CBS isn't using it's Olympics formula in which you get to see
about 10% of the action and 3/4ths of the coverage concerns the personal lives
of the athletes.
Could be much worse,
George
|
| 14.1295 | haha | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Mon Mar 20 1995 15:06 | 11 |
|
this was the one that broke my back. They're covering the IU/Missouri
game, they do a live look-in to show the Nova/OD game going to OT. The
IU game finishes and instead of going directly to the OT like ESPN would
they go to 5 minutes of commercial. We finally get the Nova game with a
minute plus left in the first OT with Nova taking a timeout and they go
right back to commercial.........
and they think they're getting better......
mike
|
| 14.1296 | | CAMONE::WAY | USS Kete, SS-306, On Eternal Patrol | Mon Mar 20 1995 16:05 | 12 |
| Hell, they've lost football, and for my money, excepting perhaps their
golf coverage, that was about the only thing they did well....
Their coverage sucks -- they skip around so much that if they happen to
have games where similar uniforms are worn, you can get so mixed up.
My mom has been watching a lot of the games -- she likes to watch
college hoops but not the pros -- and she says that unless she pays close
attention, it's really easy to get mixed up the way they jump around....
'Saw
|
| 14.1297 | | DZIGN::ROBICHAUD | WillThereBeAReplacementMorganna? | Mon Mar 20 1995 16:26 | 7 |
| If not for a questionable blocking call against Wisconsin-Green Bay
the Little10/11 would've been shutout after the first round of games. When
did the Stanford Cardinals become the Stanford Cardinal? And for
consistency's sake shouldn't we call the UMASS Minutemen the UMASS
Minuteman?
/Don
|
| 14.1298 | The Minuteman beats the Cardinal | TOOK::HALPIN | TIMEOUT!!! oops, never mind... | Mon Mar 20 1995 16:35 | 15 |
|
>... When
>did the Stanford Cardinals become the Stanford Cardinal? And for
>consistency's sake shouldn't we call the UMASS Minutemen the UMASS
>Minuteman?
Funny you should mention that /er. I heard the radio announcers
on WBZ yesterday, while I was listening to the game. It sounded very
wierd!!!
JimH
|
| 14.1299 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Mon Mar 20 1995 16:35 | 5 |
|
They have never been the Cardinals. When they wimped out to PC-ness
they neamed themselves after a color so no one could get upset.
brews
|
| 14.1300 | perfect application | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Mar 20 1995 16:36 | 2 |
| 14.1301 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Mar 20 1995 16:37 | 5 |
| 14.1302 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Mon Mar 20 1995 16:46 | 9 |
|
| Slasher, they've always been that way. They're a color, not a bird
| (i.e., Crimson Tide).
Sorta kinda. They were the Cardinal years ago. At some point they switched to
the Indians (the 30's maybe - I dunno, maybe Billte does). As somebody said,
they then yielded to the PC Police, and changed back to the Cardinal.
=bob=
|
| 14.1303 | Dummies! | WREATH::SCOPA | | Mon Mar 20 1995 17:05 | 8 |
| I'm no TV exec but If I had been the producer on yersterday's broadcast
I would have stayed with the Arkansas-Syracuse game until it finished
and not even hint about the UCLA game.
Then after the Ark-Syr game I would have had Jim Nance say, "And now
we'll show you the ending of the UCLA-MSU game...AND THEN SHOW IT!
ArrrgHH!
|
| 14.1304 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Mon Mar 20 1995 17:44 | 11 |
| RE <<< Note 14.1300 by OUTSRC::HEISER "Grace changes everything" >>>
> I wish CBS did have the Winter Olympics. They could cut figure skating
> to their heart's content.
CBS does have the Winter Olympics. They covered it in both '92 and '94.
As with ABC in '68, '72, '76, '80, '84, and '88, figure skating was the
flagship of their sports presentation.
George
|
| 14.1305 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 22 1995 13:22 | 83 |
| Sorry for the delay folks but I've been worried sick about the beating my
po po Hoyas are going to take from the mighty Heels that I've lost sleeep
and forgotten things. Just yesterday I spent 2 hours looking for my car
in the parking lot because I couldn't remember where I parked and I couldn't
think straight as my brain raced forward at a frantic pace trying to come
uo with an edge for Georgetown that could give me a sliver of hope.....
Anyways congratulations to that plagiarizing fool the BOSS!!!!!!!!
Bruce got 12 right. for the baseball junkies that's BA of 750 WOW!!!
Honarable mentions to Kevin Ball and Dan Zogran who each got 11. The rest
of us were in the 10 -9 catergory except Joe "for the fun of it" Huber.
Total you got right appears after your name.
BOSS send me your address and I'll send you out your T-Shirt. Already got
one picked out for you. It's a Giants' fan collector's item for sure!!!
mike
PLAYER |U|A|U|K|K|U|C|N|M|M|O|P|A|A|U|M|M|S|G|W|V|B|C|M|P|H|F|W|I|I|O|
|M|R|N|A|E|C|U|O|S|A|K|E|Z|Z|C|I|I|T|T|A|I|A|I|L|U|O|L|K|N|W|T|
|A|K|C|N|N|O|S|V|U|R|L|N| |S|L|N|S|N| |K|R|M|N|O|R|Y|A|T|D|A|H|
|S| | | |T|N|E|A| |Y|S|N| |T|A|N|S|D| |E|G|A|N|U|D|A| |Y| |S|R|
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Kevin Ball- 11 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
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=Bob= - 10 |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Boss - 12 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Billl - 9 |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Billthe - 9 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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C. Burrows- 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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MikeyC - 9 |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|
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Cadzilla - 9 |0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Chappy - 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|
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R. Duprez - 10 |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|
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J.Garbarino 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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P.Gronowski 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|
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Tom Garry - 9 |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Jim Halpin - 9 |1|0|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Tom Haas - 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Ken Honer - 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Joe Huber - 4 |0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Mike Heiser 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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IMJimbo - 9 |0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Nazz - 10 |1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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R. Rollins- 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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V.Silvestri 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|
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Spud - 9 |0|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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L. Wilkes - 10 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Dan Zogran- 11 |1|1|1|1|1|1|0|0|0|1|0|0|0|1|1|0|1|0|0|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|
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Other selections :
Kevin Ball : Tulane, Memphis
Roland Dupez: Memphis
Tom Garry : Utah, Xavier
Joe Huber : Xavier, Utah,
Nazz : Tulane
Rick Rollins: Santa Clara
|
| 14.1306 | | DZIGN::ROBICHAUD | WillThereBeAReplacementMorganna? | Wed Mar 22 1995 13:45 | 4 |
| I'm still confused. If the Cardinal(s) are named after a color,
how come their mascot is a tree (and a sappy looking one at that)?
/Don
|
| 14.1307 | | CSC32::MACGREGOR | | Wed Mar 22 1995 13:49 | 9 |
|
Wow, wish I'd known there was a T-shirt in this thing. First round was
pretty poor for me with only 23 correct picks, but because of the
upsets I made out like a bandit for the second round getting 14 out of
16 missing only Tulsa (had Villanova) and Memphis (had Purdue). Oh
well, at least I do have one witness and money coming to me.
Marc
|
| 14.1308 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 22 1995 14:00 | 8 |
|
the trick was that we picked these about a month ago before anybody qualified
or the seeding were known. It certainly gets easier when you know who's
going to play who. While not 14 out of 16 I did get 13 out of 16 once I
knew who was in and where. My biggest problem was I didn't show the
ACC enough respect........
mike
|
| 14.1309 | whopper | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Wed Mar 22 1995 14:00 | 6 |
| > ... My biggest problem was I didn't show the
> ACC enough respect........
Where's Chris Knorr when you need 'im?
TTom
|
| 14.1310 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:37 | 15 |
| > Anyways congratulations to that plagiarizing fool the BOSS!!!!!!!!
> Bruce got 12 right. for the baseball junkies that's BA of 750 WOW!!!
Sheeeeit, Mikey, now I got a problem. Now that everyone knows how I do
it, they are gonna copy my method. Thing is, if everyone copies my
method, ain't n one around to plagarize from, so no one will be able to
enter, and no one will win.
Actually, as little as I folow college bball, or have been following
any sports lately, you all should be embarassed that I won. Are you
really gonna send me a shirt, or do I get to whine all the time like
Hal? Not sure which I prefer.
brews
|
| 14.1311 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:48 | 6 |
|
You can make the choice yourself but if you send me your address I'll send
you a shirt. Like I say I have vintage unused GIANTSMANIA TShirt from the
92 season that I'd part with..........
mike
|
| 14.1312 | | CAMONE::WAY | USS Kete, SS-306, On Eternal Patrol | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:50 | 5 |
| > You can make the choice yourself but if you send me your address I'll send
> you a shirt. Like I say I have vintage unused GIANTSMANIA TShirt from the
> 92 season that I'd part with..........
COOL shirt.....8^)
|
| 14.1313 | same vintage, different though | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:50 | 6 |
| I gots me a cool one of that same vintage only it's a Buffalo Bills.
My cat seems to like it as its her sleeping spot of choice since I threw
it on "her" chair.
TTom
|
| 14.1314 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:57 | 9 |
|
Well, since it's Giantsmania, it's that much more special, and I can
still whine until the mail arrives.
26435 N. Paso Trail
Scottsadale, AZ 85255
the BOSS
|
| 14.1315 | maybe he should wash it first | OUTSRC::HEISER | Hoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai | Wed Mar 22 1995 15:59 | 1 |
| 14.1316 | Wooden Finalists | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:01 | 23 |
| Finalists for the 1994-95 John Wooden Award to be announced today by the
Los Angeles Athletic Club:
Ray Allen, Connecticut
Mario Bennett, Arizona St
Randolph Childress, Wake Forest
Alan Henderson, Indiana
Kerry Kittles, Villanova
Lawrence Moten, Syracuse
Ed O'Bannon, UCLA
Shawn Respert, Michigan St
Lou Roe, Massachusetts
Jerry Stackhouse, No Carolina
Damon Soudamire, Arizona
Gary Trent, Ohio
Jacque Vaughn, Kansas
Rasheed Wallace, No Carolina
Corliss Williamson, Arkansas
Note: Joe Smith, Maryland, had been a contender but Maryland would not
send a statement concerning his academic standings.
TTom
|
| 14.1317 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:04 | 5 |
| > maybe he should wash it first
But, then it would look different than all my other shirts....
|
| 14.1318 | another myth crashes down | OUTSRC::HEISER | Hoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:06 | 6 |
| 14.1319 | | CSC32::MACGREGOR | | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:07 | 7 |
| >trick was that we picked these about a month ago before anybody
>qualified or the seeding were known.
Ahh, now that is much more impressive.
Marc
|
| 14.1320 | couple of omissions | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:07 | 6 |
| Re: Wooden
I was surprised to see that Big Country wasn't on that list. And it musta
been made up a little early cause Tim Duncan from Wake aint either.
TTom
|
| 14.1321 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:11 | 6 |
| > Ahh, now that is much more impressive.
Not when you consider his (my) method. 8^)
brews
|
| 14.1322 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Money + Boredom = MJ | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:22 | 6 |
|
Both Joe Smith and Bryant "Big Country" Reeves. Are not eligible
for the award. Since there respective schools would not release there
GPA.
Ron
|
| 14.1323 | Billy Sol's other brother | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Wed Mar 22 1995 16:41 | 1 |
| My vote his God's other son Randolph Childress, the great,great one
|
| 14.1324 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Wed Mar 22 1995 17:53 | 15 |
|
I can't take it anymore. Sandbaggin' ain't my game. The Hoyas will win
tomorrow night because when the going gets easy, that's when Dean is at
his worst. Wallace is a wimp who won't be able to handle the physical
play the Hoyas lay on him. Boubcar will shutdown Stackhouse. No one on
the Heels will keep Williams off the glass. Iverson will show Dean that
he's player that Dean shouldn't have rejected just because he got in a
little trouble. Harrington will hustle and get his points and boards.
The ACC is overrated. Dean will get a T for whinning. Mcguinnis will be
dizzy from watching Alan. Don Reid will bury anyone who comes in the lane.
Donald Williams will fein sickness early in this one.......
Hoyas by 10...........
mike
|
| 14.1325 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Wed Mar 22 1995 18:02 | 16 |
| Now that's the Mikey I love. Tell it like it is, don't hold
anything back...........I would like to see your picks in the
sweet sixteen pool, that doesn't exist, so that your iron is
behind these words.
I also like the Hoya's chances, but and it's a big one, they have to
shoot well. I do think they match up pretty well. Boubabcar is
a pain in the butt and as long as he doesn't foul out will create
havok. Iverson will get his, Wallace and the Big O is a draw, Williams
is going to be big off the boards.....
I do wish UCONN was on at 7:30 instead of UNC though. The Hoya's
could handle them so easily that I'll fall asleep and miss the
UCONN game 8*)
jimbo
|
| 14.1326 | could happen | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Wed Mar 22 1995 18:18 | 21 |
| Goin' for that ol' end o' season peak thang, huh?
I'd luv to see it but it aint gonna happen. The Heels may not cover but
they aint gonna lose. Locally, they're talking more about Pat Sullivan's
return than Michael Jordans' ;-).
What the Hoyas should do is run, run, run and then run some more. Like
most of Dean's teams, this one aint got no foot speed. Tell whoeer is
guarding Donald Williams to not let him take it inside and do that little
sissy shot put shot he does. Definitely, make Rasheed work and hopefully
whine.
Also, they should keep it close and not go ahead until near the end. Put
on a little 8-0 or so run cause you know Dean won't call a time out when
he needs it.
Hoyas shoot well? I doubt it but it would be nice to see. If'n it
happens, Dean has proven that he will not under any circumstances change
his D. Big John should make his team watch the ACC finals over and over.
TTom
|
| 14.1327 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The dream is always the same... | Wed Mar 22 1995 18:34 | 3 |
| 14.1328 | Carolina Blew advances! | CNTROL::SALMON | | Wed Mar 22 1995 18:34 | 15 |
| Mikey,
You just couldn't hold it in for just on more day, could ya?
I'm feeling a little better now knowing at least one of the teams I
have going to the final 8 will advance!
By the way Jimbo, I saw the Mikey's sweet 16 sheet that doesn't exist.
He's got KANSAS winning it all! He figures nobody else will have Kansas
....and he's right...so if they should win it all he'll collect the
whole enchillada!
JJS
|
| 14.1329 | Sign here, Mr. Smith | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Creative Pretzel Eaters Club | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:04 | 16 |
| re. last few - As I think I mentioned earlier, and based upon what I
was hearing when I was in DC earlier this month, it appears that Smith
is pulling a Bias - he's checked out of school, and has about a 1.4
GPA. If I'm the administrators at UMD I wouldn't want these "facts",
if true, published. Just hope their are no repercussions because of
it. Then again, how do you motivate a 19 year old kid to go to class
when he's looking at a possible $75M payday this summer?
MD vs UConn - Gonna be a good one! If Smith stays hot and the Terps can at
least hit enough shots from the outside to keep UConn honest, they
should win. The Terps have, however, shown that they are as capable as
anyone as going in the tank on any given game. Local paper indicates
that the KY vs ASU game is on the tube, not the Terps (damn). Oh well,
if the KY game is a blowout maybe they'll go to the Terps.
UMDan
|
| 14.1330 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:14 | 15 |
|
> re. last few - As I think I mentioned earlier, and based upon what I
> was hearing when I was in DC earlier this month, it appears that Smith
> is pulling a Bias - he's checked out of school, and has about a 1.4
> GPA. If I'm the administrators at UMD I wouldn't want these "facts",
> if true, published. Just hope their are no repercussions because of
> it.
There could be if he's checked out of school but he's still playing.
I'm all for these guys getting financial advice and such while they're
still in school but you'd think that it's a minimum requirement to
actually be there...
glenn
|
| 14.1331 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:18 | 9 |
| | was hearing when I was in DC earlier this month, it appears that Smith
| is pulling a Bias - he's checked out of school, and has about a 1.4
Uhh, Smith is far from the firsted NCAA hooster to do this since Len Bias. This
happens all the time. Kids often make their decision half way through the
basketball season, after fall semester ends. I learned from the dad of a player
on the last year's GW team that Yinka Dare did the exact same thing.
=bob=
|
| 14.1332 | | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Creative Pretzel Eaters Club | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:29 | 8 |
| re. -1
I was only using Bias as a point of reference for another Terp (although
there are/were probably more). The lure of the filthy lucre is mighty
powerful. If I was in the same situation I doubt I would have stayed
around College Park for four years.
UMDan
|
| 14.1333 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Potty training is hell!!! | Thu Mar 23 1995 12:48 | 1 |
| Ohh, OK. Bias was probably the last guy from Maryland to fit into this category.
|
| 14.1334 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Thu Mar 23 1995 13:27 | 12 |
| >Finalists for the 1994-95 John Wooden Award to be announced today by the
>Los Angeles Athletic Club:
>
> Mario Bennett, Arizona St
>> this can't be! Tommy's an expert and he said Mario's no good.
Mario Bennett reminds me of Mel Turpin.
BTW - that's not a compliment, Mikey.
|
| 14.1335 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Thu Mar 23 1995 13:51 | 7 |
| >There could be if he's checked out of school but he's still playing.
>I'm all for these guys getting financial advice and such while they're
>still in school but you'd think that it's a minimum requirement to
>actually be there...
Unless it's HS, then they don't have to be there, right? 8^)
|
| 14.1336 | no one in the middle | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Mar 23 1995 13:56 | 12 |
| If'n Joe was academically eligible at the beginning of thised semester,
then it really doesn't matter what he does now. The onliest problem would
be in the case of he really flunked out lasted semester and he's still
playing.
Can you say Charles Shackleford?
But back to hoops. The real problem for UConn is that they have no
matchup for Joe. He's gonna rool in the middle. It'll be up to the guard
to play their way past the Terps.
TTom
|
| 14.1337 | ex | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Mar 23 1995 14:14 | 14 |
| No matchup for Smith. UCONN has 15 fouls to use up on him and I'll
bet Heyward and Willingham foul out. Joe is not ready for the
physical beating he's going to take. He will not get 20 points in
this game. Knight is better than people think and it would not
suprise me to see him win the battle with Smith. Of course I'll be
in bed by 10:35 and can't possibly watch the game!!!!
UCONN can be beat with the 3 pointers and when they shoot lousy.
Maryland is a so so 3 pointer team and will not win this game unless
UCONN tanks it from the perimeter
Jimbo
|
| 14.1338 | Gonna be up late | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Creative Pretzel Eaters Club | Thu Mar 23 1995 14:31 | 10 |
| Sorta agree with the last reply, except that FSU tried that tactic
(beatin' up on poor Joey) in the ACC Tourney. their big guys all
fouled out and MD went on to win the game. MD also got some decent
bench play in that game, and if I am not mistaken, Smith didn't hit a
basket (except FT's) until the second half.
If MD can't hit from the outside, it's gonna be a long night (unless
Smith goes crazy).
UMDan
|
| 14.1339 | hoyas by 6 | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Thu Mar 23 1995 15:17 | 11 |
|
What my astute colleague IMJimbo has forgotten is the game is out West
where the PAC-10 refs go for the pansy style of game. They will not allow
UConn to rough Joe up. UConn will need 30 fouls not 15 to stop him. Besides
slowing the game down would be the worst mistake UConn could make. Both
teams like to fly but Maryland does do a better job than UConn in the
half-court game.
but again who cares the real game is on at 7:30..........
mike
|
| 14.1340 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Mar 23 1995 15:31 | 9 |
| Hoyas by 6? Yesterday it was by 10. Do you know something that we
don't. Did Iverson break a nail this morning? 8*)
There is no guarantee that it will be PAC-10 refs at all, they could
be Big 10 refs, the only rep's left from that conference........
You still didn't tell who you picked on the sheet Mikey.....fess up
Jimbo
|
| 14.1341 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Thu Mar 23 1995 15:33 | 4 |
|
I played Maryland to win it all on one and Arkansas to win it all on the
other. I picked the Hoyas to win on one sheet and just in case I'm wrong
I picked UNC on the other...........
|
| 14.1342 | | MROA::RSCHOTT | | Thu Mar 23 1995 15:48 | 7 |
| Even though Vegas has the Terps favored by a couple, I think
UConn is going to prevail, something like 86-81 or thereabouts. The
Huskies can allow Smith his 25 or 30, provided they keep everyone else
reasonably in check. It's when guys like Hipp or Rhodes go crazy, such
as in last year's NCAA against UMASS, that Maryland is unbeatable.
Russ
|
| 14.1343 | who's favored | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Mar 23 1995 16:08 | 9 |
| 14.1344 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Mar 23 1995 16:22 | 6 |
| uh, TTOM I was razzing him about how his prediction of victory has
dropped 4 points in a day.
You know I know who favored and by how much. 8*)
Jimbo
|
| 14.1345 | humble predictions | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Mar 23 1995 16:24 | 11 |
| It only takes about 3 times for me to get what's going on *-).
Here's my stab at the action, I mean games, tonight:
No Carolina covers fairly easy over them Hoyas.
Kaintuck wins but does not cover agin them Sun Devil types.
Mississippi St wins outright over the lucky and overrated Broons.
Maryland covers over barely (and wins barely) over UConners.
TTom
|
| 14.1346 | No close games tonight | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Thu Mar 23 1995 16:32 | 8 |
| Guess I'll get into the prediction biz:
Heels humble Hoyas by 20.
Kentucky crushes ASU by 25.
Mississippi State looks confused, loses by 12 to UCLA.
UConn rolls over an outmanned Marland by 15.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1347 | bye bye broons | MKFSA::LONG | Hoop-city, baybeeeee! | Thu Mar 23 1995 16:34 | 7 |
| >Mississippi St wins outright over the lucky and overrated Broons.
'zackly what I said a couple weeks ago. Downside of it is that'll
mean Tommy's prom dress will go unworn for another year.
billl
|
| 14.1348 | Dean just another troll | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Thu Mar 23 1995 16:45 | 19 |
| Well I didn't think much of Uconn before the tournement but they've
been a different team and handling Cinninnati is quite an achievement.
Maryland seems to have peaked early and will lose here.
UCLA may be tougher than I thought and this should be a pickem vs a
team at least as good as Mzou. Ucla by 1.
Kentucky in a tougher contest, perhaps losing in second half and
winning with a rush at the end by 10.
Hoyas very tough and knocking out NC with some of the most arocious
whinning ever seen, possibly Dean breaking down and weeping over the
unfairness of it all.
Dean to NCAA: "You ungrateful wretches! you've got your 1.7 billion and
you don't need me anymore, eh.!"
NCAA: "Call us in 5 years when we start negotiating the next one and
bring beak-nose with you."
|
| 14.1349 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Thu Mar 23 1995 17:07 | 7 |
|
Georgetown by 8 ;^)
Maryland by 30
Miss St by 5
Kentucky by 12
mike
|
| 14.1350 | working that KOD to perfection | OUTSRC::HEISER | Hoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai | Thu Mar 23 1995 18:20 | 1 |
| 14.1351 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Thu Mar 23 1995 18:27 | 6 |
|
Mike Heiser predicts victory! Film at 11.
Of course, Mikey predicted first round victories for the
entire Whack-10 but we've put that bit of ugliness behind
us now.
|
| 14.1352 | 3-2 isn't bad | OUTSRC::HEISER | Hoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai | Thu Mar 23 1995 18:44 | 1 |
| 14.1353 | Looking for Cinderella | WREATH::SCOPA | | Thu Mar 23 1995 19:48 | 8 |
| Come to think of it...did UCLA have that tough of a schedule?
They are playing a #5 seed and barely got by a #8 seed.
We need a #4, #5, or #6 seed to make it to the F4 to make it
interesting.
Maj
|
| 14.1354 | rebounding and defense will prevail | OUTSRC::HEISER | Hoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai | Thu Mar 23 1995 19:51 | 1 |
| 14.1355 | Who won? | CNTROL::SALMON | | Fri Mar 24 1995 09:48 | 14 |
| Could someone please tell me the final of the Maryland - Uconn game
last night? I went to bed after too many pounders and the tv was just a
blur. I'm hoping that the refs decided to make this one become a game
like they did after the 1st five minutes of the Gourgetown game. Seemed
like they had to make sure it looked like the Hoyas belonged in the
sweet 16. I don't want to wait and listen to Childs. That "Carolina
Blue" he'll be wearing today will be too much for my eyes. I really
don't want to see JUMBO either. He'll be sportin' that "ole JUMBO
smile" all the while chewin cud if Uconn won.......my sweet 16 pool is
ruined if the Terps lost! Thanks,
JJS
|
| 14.1356 | | CSC32::MACGREGOR | | Fri Mar 24 1995 11:23 | 6 |
|
Don't know the final, but UCONN opened up a 19 point lead around 10pm
MDT.
Marc
|
| 14.1357 | How about them Huskies! | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Fri Mar 24 1995 11:51 | 7 |
| final was 99-89 UCONN. They could have won by whatever margin
they wanted. The Heyward/Knight combo outplayed big Joe Smith.
In Smith's defense he did take a nasty fall in the first half.
I definitely am in favor of starting those games earlier......
Jimbo
|
| 14.1358 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 24 1995 12:13 | 5 |
|
you mean the punk undercut him and the refs took Smith out of the game
not that combo of stiffs you're so proud of!!!!!!!
mike
|
| 14.1359 | Same game | CNTROL::SALMON | | Fri Mar 24 1995 12:17 | 8 |
| Mike:
Sounds like you saw the same game I did. JUMBO wouldn't be
spoutin' if Joe didn't get his legs taken out from under him!
JS
|
| 14.1360 | unless of course I had looked in a mirror ;^) | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 24 1995 12:18 | 11 |
|
What can I say? If Georgetown could shoot straight they'd be the National
Champs. After the first 5 minutes they outplayed them there heels but it
was too late. Anytime they got close the refs made sure they got no closer.
Oh well on to next year. It's a shame they lost Butler earlier this year
cause he'd have helped last night. Dam that Donald Williams he couldn't
sleepwalk through another one could he........
Oh well atleast we didn't have to watch the Whinner.........
mike
|
| 14.1361 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 24 1995 12:19 | 6 |
|
How 'bout a little credit to SPROTS' designated sissy-man, Rasheed
Wallace?
glenn
|
| 14.1362 | Stackhouse is a man, Wallace a wimp | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 24 1995 12:25 | 7 |
|
naw I don't think so Glenn. He was wide open offensively. even I could make
those shots. Defensively I was impressed but when a team shoots as bad as
the Hoyas do from the perimeter they have to take it to the hole thus
increasing his blocks. At 7 ft he ought have more boards than he did.
mike
|
| 14.1363 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Fri Mar 24 1995 12:36 | 11 |
| Mikey,
I guess you were too close to the action. Wallace was immense last
night and I didn't think he could do it. I even now think carolina has
a chance vs Kentucky which I saw for a few minutes last night.
Considering he's not 100% I have to give him a lot of credit; I was
saying the other Wallace (Syracuse) was the one until last night.
One problem with Georgetown is possibly too much depth. If they
want to use 10-12 men then they should have been man to man press from
the start. It seemed like Don Reid was out of there for long periods
of time. I hope Iverson sticks around a few years.
|
| 14.1364 | domination by Kentucky's front line | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Mar 24 1995 12:44 | 36 |
| Some o' my thoughts.
Everyone, excepted me :-(, went 1-1 lasted night. UCLA won, Arizona St
lost. No Carolina won, Maryland lost. Kentucky won, Mississippi St lost.
UConn won, Georgetown lost.
Allen Iverson looks like the real deal. Certainly, he was way too quick
for any of the plodding Heels to keep up with. But is he the coach or is
Thompson? The Heels won on their outside shooting in the firsted half and
Rasheed in the second half. The warning to Kentucky is that Stackhouse
barely showed up.
Speaking of Kentucky, I think one issue is clear:
from 21.2641
>> Maybe I'm missing something here TTom but I fail to see Kentucky's great
>> inside strength.
>
>> As far as Pitino goes I wouldn't exactly call him a great coach just yet.
>
>That's 'cause they don't have any, and even if they did, Pitino doesn't
>know how to use it.
On this issue, I have been exonerated. The 'don't have any' front line of
Kentucky scored 16, 10, and 15 which oh by the way outscored the
unstoppable Sun Devils front line.
From the USA Today: "Kentucky's front court men, particularly Rodrick
Rhodes and Andre Riddick *DOMINTATED* (my emphasis) inside."
Next!
Maryland looked like it took the night off and Mississippi St played like
they'd never been there afore, which they aint.
TTom
|
| 14.1365 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 24 1995 13:05 | 11 |
|
geez TTom you're getting to sound like Ack Ack. UK's frontline has a good
game and you're in claiming their the second coming and you've been cleared.
Say what you want about Wallace but imo any 7 footer who doesn't get 10
or better boards a night should be ashamed of himself. His offense was
easy cause Georgetown's adjustment was to overplay the perimeter. I was
definately more impressed with Stackhouse who showed me there was more
to his game than just scoring.........
mike
|
| 14.1366 | yep and for tonight ... | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Mar 24 1995 13:14 | 36 |
| Mike
All this started cause I said that Kentucky would not have a problem with
Mario and his boys. I never used the "G" word, nor did I say that they
were even the best front line left in the tourney. I'm merely countering
the they don't have one theory of the front line.
I've seen Kentucky several times thised year. Their 3 pointers get a lot
of ink but their front line is very solid. That's all.
Right now, there are several teams playing very well. Certainly UConn and
UCLA looked good lasted night, along with Kentucky. UMass looks good too.
These teams look to be on a higher plane than the rest of 'em.
Undaunted, with my stellar 1-3 (and that one was a barely covered by the
Heels) here goes for tonight:
In the Wake-Oklahoma St, I'm doing the traditional MrT thang and saying
Wake hasn't a chance. For them to win, they have to have big games outta
Duncan and Childress. They'll be matched by Big Country and Rutherford.
The edge goes to the Cowboys cause Eddie Sutton has been here before and
Dave Odoms hasn't.
UMass will storm over the Tulsa Hurricanes. This one won't be close. Easy
cover.
Kansas will hold on to beat Virginia. The line looks about right and I'll
lean toward the semi-home team Jayhawks. Burroughs and Deane will keep it
close but the rookie Curtis Staples will get stage fright. Look for
semi-namesake Jerod Haase to show him up.
Arkansas will finally come outta their funk and beat Memphis by about 10.
Corliss Williamson will find some way not to foul out and the steady
platoon of players that Nolan Richardson sends in will be too much.
TTom
|
| 14.1367 | Can I go 4-0 two consecutive days? Probably not! | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass to the Final Four! | Fri Mar 24 1995 14:00 | 17 |
| That was the easiest 4-0 picking in the history of sprots. Four good
teams vs four overmatched teams. Tonight's games should be a lot more
interesting.
How healthy is Childress? If he's at all under the weather, Ok. St.
can pull of an upset. I'll still take Wake in a squeaker.
Arkansas has been so lucky so far that their luck is due to change.
Memphis in an upset.
UMass will be too athletic for Tulsa, and pull away in the second half
to win by 11.
The one mismatch is Kansas-Virginia. This will be one ugly game.
Kansas wins 64-42. Virginia won't be able to throw it in the ocean.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1368 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Fri Mar 24 1995 14:14 | 10 |
| Wake over Ok st. The man has to be stopped and it won't be here.
UMass over Tulsa Cal has a lot of experience here, Tulsa may make
too many mistakes
Kansas over Va. Kansas hasn't been impressive and all Va does is
win (tie for acc regular season). But Home court
should do it for Kansas.
Arkansas over
Memphis Hogs should be long gone, they survive again.
|
| 14.1369 | Weekend Times? | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Fri Mar 24 1995 15:08 | 2 |
| Does anybody know the times for the regional finals games
on Saturday and Sunday?
|
| 14.1370 | at least according to USA Today | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Mar 24 1995 15:52 | 4 |
| On Saturday, the firsted games start at 3:30 pm EST.
On Sunday, they start at 2:30 pm EST.
TTom
|
| 14.1371 | | MKFSA::LONG | Hoop-city, baybeeeee! | Fri Mar 24 1995 16:05 | 8 |
| On one pool I had Miss St over UCLA and UConn over Maryland.
In the other I had them reversed. I wish the two sides of
my brain would get it together.
So do I!
billl
|
| 14.1372 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Fri Mar 24 1995 19:23 | 20 |
|
>> How 'bout a little credit to SPROTS' designated sissy-man, Rasheed
>> Wallace?
The thing that struck me most about Wallace's admittedly impressive
performance was that the Hoyas never put a body on him. It was as
if they'd never heard of him or of boxing out. Every time the ball
went up, their necks craned upwards and they tried to enter into a
jumping contest which they all too often lost. I want to see Wallace
what Wallace does when he has to work a little harder at it.
Another thing about last night's game was that Iverson showed flashes
of brilliance but he has less discretion than a two dollar hooker. He
relies way too much on his incredible talent to get him out of spots
he has no business being in. If he can harness it a little bit, he'll
be great. If not, he'll be the next Pearl Washington.
|
| 14.1373 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The dream is always the same... | Mon Mar 27 1995 11:58 | 3 |
| 14.1374 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | She's the MAN!!!! | Mon Mar 27 1995 12:14 | 3 |
|
I see a Prom Dress Wearin!!!!
|
| 14.1375 | | MKFSA::LONG | Hoop-city, baybeeeee! | Mon Mar 27 1995 12:32 | 8 |
| So how does Tommy look today? I sure hope someone in PKO has a camera
with them today!
I got blasted out of every pool I'm in this weekend. Looks like a
UCLA - UNC final.
billl
|
| 14.1376 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Mon Mar 27 1995 12:52 | 3 |
|
Will there be an update on the "eight-man" NCAA pool today? I've still got
3 guys left, which has piqued my curiosity...
|
| 14.1377 | Maybe Second Place! | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | | Mon Mar 27 1995 14:25 | 6 |
| In the pool I played, I have UCLA beating Villanova and
North Carolina beating Arkansas with UCLA winning it all.
But, I don't think I'll have enough even if all the games
go my way. Closest I've ever gotten tho.
Tony
|
| 14.1378 | | DZIGN::ROBICHAUD | WillThereBeAReplacementMorganna? | Mon Mar 27 1995 15:36 | 9 |
| 14.1379 | | PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing | Mon Mar 27 1995 17:09 | 9 |
| I spent the last 4 days in Seattle on a boondog...er...business trip to
Microsquish. Scored a "Battle in Seattle" Final 4 tee-shirt.
The town is decked out in NCAA garb...lamp posts, store fronts, etc.
They've even hung a basketball from the Space Needle.
Bonus was seeing Bettie Seveert in a small club.
Mark.
|
| 14.1380 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | Hoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai | Mon Mar 27 1995 17:17 | 1 |
| 14.1381 | Yabbut | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Mon Mar 27 1995 20:31 | 19 |
| Yeah but...
Oklahoma State beat UMass
UMass beat Maryland
Maryland beat North Carolina
North Carolina beat Kentucky
Kentucky beat Arizona State
So Oklahoma State stands a good chance!!
Seriously...I'm just knowcking the "A beat B" reasoning, but I
figure UCLA ought to win it all.
Tony
|
| 14.1382 | The exit 16 Grassy Knoll | AKOCOA::BREEN | The roar of the paint | Tue Mar 28 1995 16:07 | 15 |
| The strange incident of the refs between the halves of UMass-Okla state
(cont)
With ratings down and the NBA mounting a challenge to NCAA and CBS
showpiece tournement, with the likelihood of President Clinton
attending the final four if Oklahoma state and Bill's buddy Sutton win,
with low ratings from the Northeast despite UMass being, did all these
factors induce the ncaa to take action between the halves Saturday?
Craig finally of all the Glove people mentions the Cal-Camby strategy
and takes Buckner to task for not enlightening America of the
criticalality of Camby's mounting foul problems. Was Buckner tipped
that the ncaa had taken action and told to ignore it.
I can't be the only one that smells a dead fish from that game.
|
| 14.1383 | a disgrace | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Tue Mar 28 1995 16:19 | 14 |
| The fack that Eddie Sutton is allowed to coach in the NCAA is one of the
most shameless thangs going today.
When he trashed the program at Kentucky, players were permanently banned,
a coach was permanently banned and what happens to Sutton, the man in
charge? Zip, nothing.
He merrily moves on to another program and now everyone's ranting and
raving about what a master guru he is. The man is a disgrace and the NCAA
has no credibility about cleaning up its act until they change the rules
that allow the likes of Sutton to move on to other programs after what he
did at Kentucky.
TTom
|
| 14.1384 | RE: .1382 | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Tue Mar 28 1995 16:40 | 8 |
|
Who are the Glove people? Are they a mysterious cult? Were they wearing
gloves as they injected mind-altering chemicals into the refs at halftime
of the UMass/OklaSt game?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Roland
|
| 14.1385 | The 7% Sutton Solution | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Wed Mar 29 1995 16:24 | 17 |
| Eddie the Sleazeball Sutton update.
Now that everyone is seemingly in the forgive and forget mode concerning
what a scumbag Sutton is, it's good to have some more data.
Of the final four teams here's the graduation rates for those basketball
programs during the lasted 4 years:
No Carolina, 77%
Arkansas, 38%
UCLA, 33%
Oklahoma St, 7%
Yessir folks, seven per cent of Sutton's players graduated. A real
freakin genius.
TTom
|
| 14.1386 | Wonder what the Globe would do if Calipari graduated only 7% | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Wed Mar 29 1995 16:58 | 6 |
| I'm not as surprised at the OK. St. number as I am by UCLA's. I
figgered there weren't any MIT types playing for Eddie Sutton, but to
see only 1/3 of the UCLA basketball players graduating is
disappointing.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1387 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The dream is always the same... | Thu Mar 30 1995 01:12 | 4 |
| 14.1388 | Hokies win NIT in OT | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Mar 30 1995 16:08 | 13 |
| Wail, how 'bout them Hokies?!!!
Va Tech beat Marquette lasted night 65-64 to win the NIT.
Early in the game, Marquette looked like they would win easily but the
Hokies turned up the D in the second half. Both teams kept it close and
the game went into OT.
Va Tech had a chance to put Marquette away but turned it over and had to
realy on hitting a couple of free throws at the end with .7 seconds left
to pull out the victory.
TTom
|
| 14.1389 | NiT (NY version) finally dead? | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Thu Mar 30 1995 16:23 | 14 |
| Ttom what would you guess the crowd was last night 10k? My friend from
NIT boondoggles of yesteryear told me he took the train down Mondays
for the semis but said the place was dead and empty.
the ncaa has wanted to kill the NIT for decades and the NIT keeps
pulling a lazarus and last year I guess Sienna brought in about 10
thousand all by itself. Until he told me that I didn't understand the
miracle of Manhatten making it to ncaas but now I think I know - and
the Jaspers went ahead and made them look good.
I thought my old buddy (old bc grad from 40s) would help me out with my
-UMass and refs influenced during the half theory- but his only comment
was "I hate UMass and that weasel Calipari". So I guess I'm still the
only one who ferreted out the truth on that one.
|
| 14.1390 | couldn't tell | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Mar 30 1995 16:27 | 13 |
| I couldn't tell how many people were in MSG but because the game was
close and rather well contested, what fans were there were very vocal. It
didn't look like some of the early round games where even a home team
couldn't get 5K people there.
BTW, this was the second NIT title for Va Tech, having won it afore in
'73.
My suggestion to the NIT is to play this in a smaller, possibly
on-campus, gym. That way if'n 10K show, they got what looks and sounds
like a good crowd.
TTom
|
| 14.1391 | Wooden AAs | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Mar 30 1995 16:40 | 20 |
| Wooden All Americans:
Roy Allen, Connecticut, 6-6 soph. guard
Randolph Childress, Wake Forest, 6-2 sr. guard
Kerry Kittles, Villanova, 6-5 jr. guard
Ed O'Bannon, UCLA, 6-8 sr. forward
Shawn Respert, Michigan St, 6-3 sr. guard
Lou Roe, Massachusetts, 6-7 sr. forward
Jerry Stackhouse, No Carolina, 6-6 soph. forward
Damon Stoudamire, Arizona, 5-10 soph. guard
Rasheed Wallace, No Carolina, 6-10 soph. center
Corliss Williamson, Arkansas, 6-7 jr. forward
Note: as previously mentioned, Joe Smith, Maryland, and Bryant Reeves,
Oklahoma St, were ineligible because their shcools would not
report their academic standing.
Wooden Award winner will be annonced April 7.
TTom
|
| 14.1392 | NIT: We're #65!! | PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing | Thu Mar 30 1995 17:30 | 2 |
|
|
| 14.1393 | and proud of it! | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Mar 30 1995 17:39 | 0 |
| 14.1394 | NIT - Atlantic city of bball tourneys | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Thu Mar 30 1995 18:15 | 8 |
| Well every dog has to have his day and I guess I had mine but I sure am
sad at the demise of the NIT. Even into the early 70s she had the
Saturday pair of double headers and same/same Sunday with double
headers during the week too. Then crowds at all the steam table bars
and hotel lobbies jammed with Thundering Herds, Hoosiers and Hokies.
In fact I remember that '73 Va Tech teams and the cheerleaders with the
hot pants - quite risque at the time.
|
| 14.1395 | Cowboys and Heels | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Mar 31 1995 14:32 | 16 |
| It's that time again for a fearless prognostication for the Final Four.
In the firsted game, I'm liking that scumbag Eddie Sutton and the points.
One can only hope that UCLA actually wins the game but I think this one
is close and the Cowboys might even win outright. The whole issue is who
can force the tempo. The lower the score the better I like Okie State.
If'n it's up and down the court, the Broons could win big.
In the seconded game, I've been flip flopping more than that famous
Arkansas Clinton. And the answer is Dean over Nolan. Dean will most
certainly whine about the officiating and Nolan will most certainly whine
about not getting any respect. The matchups are real interesting but I
give the Heels the nod because of Jerry Stackhouse. He's the one guy
Arkansas won't be able to handle.
TTom
|
| 14.1396 | | MKOTS3::LONG | movin' on up! | Fri Mar 31 1995 15:25 | 5 |
| TTom, if only ACCrisp was here to see that.
billl
|
| 14.1397 | Thank God he's not around | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Fri Mar 31 1995 15:53 | 6 |
| The final nightmare is that "the Donald" has come back and become the
factor for the 'cursed heels. The funny thing is I hate Arkansas and
UCLA and I feel Okla St. was the beneficiary of stab in the back to
UMass (waiting to see if SI corroborates me, last hope).
So now I'll have to mildly root blue.
|
| 14.1398 | | SMARTT::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Mar 31 1995 16:19 | 9 |
|
While I agree with ya Billte that the refs went with Okie St. in the second
half I don't think it had as big an outcome on the game as Rutherford heating
up, the UMass injuries and pathetic shooting. I think it was more blantant
and had more direct impact in the Virgina game. Arkansas was lost until the
refs let them murder any Virgina player that dared to pentrate and allowed
them to just slap guys on the arm when they double teamed.
mike
|
| 14.1399 | Crisp to be executed? | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Mar 31 1995 16:26 | 12 |
| > TTom, if only ACCrisp was here to see that.
Speak of the devil, here's what the USA Today has for one of the keys for
No Carolina to win:
">Crisp half-court execution by probably the best half-court offensive
team in the field is a must."
They gonna execute Crip at half court? Let's see what kinda faux fan he
is after that ;-).
TTom
|
| 14.1400 | snarf | OUTSRC::HEISER | Hoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem Adonai | Fri Mar 31 1995 17:02 | 1 |
| 14.1401 | Stop Camby you stopped UMass - | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Fri Mar 31 1995 17:58 | 9 |
| Mikey, the refs impact was subtle in the UMass game: every time Camby
stepped on the court he got hit with a foul. He because of everything
else became the only factor that could get UMass the win that day.
I don't think you could get away with it with the heartland teams and
the real, deep-rooted feelings for college bball. I've heard games
were played with the reffing down in Lexington but the folks where this
game is an institution are too sharp to let refs get away with what
they pulled last Sunday.
|
| 14.1402 | RE: .1401 | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Fri Mar 31 1995 18:43 | 6 |
|
I'm surprised you haven't outright stated that UMass was killed
by two sets of refs - one operating from the Book Repository, and
one from behind the grassy knoll.
If the refs get shot by the ghost of Jack Ruby, *then* I'll worry...
|
| 14.1403 | I can certainly think of more unlikely happenings | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Fri Mar 31 1995 19:39 | 13 |
| roland, roland, roland
I'm the first to laugh at my own seeming paranoia. But truly it's
not as conspiratorial as it would seem. It doesn't have to be some
gambling setup or even some ncaa hack going over the numbers and
telling the chief of officials "we need country for the ratings".
In fact considering the styles involved and the stats showing UMass
went to the line a lot in first half an adjustment on refs part could
have been done independently.
My problem is before it happened I just had a bad feeling during
the half and my worst fears were answered.
|
| 14.1404 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Fri Mar 31 1995 20:29 | 15 |
|
I didn't even see the game. And I don't doubt that the way the game
was being called was adjusted. Refs are like any other team - if things
aren't going the way they think they should go, they make adjustments.
What you don't seem to address is that maybe UMass was getting *more* than
their share of breaks in the first half, and things evened out.
But your comments have been giving me a chuckle - with people being so
ga-ga over UMass, they're still trying to get over the fact that their
talented team won't be playing this weekend. I went to SU, where I
watched the Red Sox of College Basketball. It's old hat to me.
Roland
BTW - I think you should (TM) "The Glove"...
|
| 14.1405 | SEC cheats, Dale Brown overrated | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Sun Apr 02 1995 15:17 | 13 |
| The NCAA has conducted a survey of its 100+ Division I coaches. Some of
the results.
The SEC is the most currupt conference. When asked which conference
cheats the most, 62 said the SEC. 8 said the Southwest Conference (won't
have to worry about them much longer). The Big East and the Great Midwest
got 2 votes each.
Dale Brown, head coach of LSU, was the landslide winner in the voting for
the most overrated coach, getting 21 votes. John Thompson, Georgetown,
and Jim Boeheim, Syracuse, were next with 10 votes each.
TTom
|
| 14.1406 | Stephan Marbury? | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:17 | 9 |
| I caught a little bit of the McDonald's high school game
yesterday and that Stephan Marbury (I think thats his last
name) was phenomenal.
His court awareness, passing ability, handling of the ball
just made him look so much more advanced than all the other
kids playing.
Man, was he good? Where's he going?
|
| 14.1407 | Go ACC! | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:20 | 7 |
| Marbury is going to Georgia Tech.
Another ACC recruit, Vincent Carter, won the slam dunk contest and
finished second in the 3-point shootout. Not a bad combo. Local talent
Antoin Jamieson looked pretty good, as well.
TTom
|
| 14.1408 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | I Love the Dorito's Babies.... | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:21 | 3 |
|
Any BE Recruits play? How'd they look?
|
| 14.1409 | Shark may put the bite on Bobby Cremins | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:21 | 8 |
| Marbury has declared for Georgia Tech, but that hasn't stopped Jerry
Tarkanian from swooping in and putting a full-court press on the kid
to go to Fresno St., where the Shark will be coaching nexted season.
Apparently, the only thing holding up Fresno State announcing Tark is
that he wants to have a bunch of renegades lined up to go to Fresno
before he officially makes the announcement.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1410 | Ga. Tech | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | It's the Champale talking! | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:23 | 4 |
| Marbury will go to Ga. Tech - Cremins gets another one from the big apple
(K. Anderson was from NYC?).
UMDan
|
| 14.1411 | because Best is leaving soon | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:33 | 8 |
| Marbury has been assured that Travis Best is not long for the Georgia
Tech campus. Best is one of those sophomores rumored to be considering
the NBA in the hopes that they can get in afore the rookie cap.
Best, like most of 'em this side of Stackhouse, would be better served
playing another year or 2 in college.
TTom
|
| 14.1412 | | MROA::RSCHOTT | | Mon Apr 03 1995 14:46 | 5 |
| Travis Best is a senior, (at least in terms of basketball
eligibility) and his departure will open up the point guard slot for
Marbury.
Russ
|
| 14.1413 | right you are | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Mon Apr 03 1995 15:08 | 5 |
| I caint believe that he's a senior already but it shore looks like it.
Wail, I still think he could use another year or 2 afore the NBA.
TTom
|
| 14.1414 | Final 4 | MKOTS3::SMILLER | | Mon Apr 03 1995 16:34 | 6 |
|
Does anyone know the number or address to call or write to
the NCAA for the Final Four application for next year?
steve
|
| 14.1415 | | AGNT99::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Mon Apr 03 1995 16:48 | 10 |
|
Well the UCLA game was just a matter of time. If Edney had chosen to take
over earlier than the Bruins would have put them away earlier but what
happened to UNC? Unfortunately I was sent to the bedroom team by the wife
and kids and missed most of the second half on the old snooz. Why couldn't
Dean's boys put it in the ocean? Why couldn't Rasheed stop Corliss? Also
how did Stackhouse get hurt early? I'm sure all of the UNC faithful are
blaming Stack's injury for the loss instead of Dean's 20% record......
mike
|
| 14.1416 | I'll pick Arkansas => UCLA the winner | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Mon Apr 03 1995 17:48 | 17 |
| well mike I'll give you a synopsis:
Stackhouse got a knee in the thigh right off the bat, no foul tho he
was sandwiched.
NC came out cold but heated up and the Donald especially was very hot
and had most of his 21 points in the first half. 7 point lead got
shaved to 4 on a buzzer beater by "Baby" Stewart.
NC was cold but persisted with 3s with Calabria and Donald pulling
ofers. Finally when all was lost Dean went inside and refs started
calling the fouls. At 1 point Calabria fouled instead of letting clock
run down with 1 minute left. The foul shots and NC misses wrote
history to the heels.
It looked like Stackhouse couldn't jump, Rasheed was mortal, Williamson
was immense. Hogs will be very tough to beat and I've been wrong about
everything this tourney.
|
| 14.1417 | the times they are a-changin' | MKOTS3::LONG | Play ball!! | Mon Apr 03 1995 19:05 | 7 |
| Am I the only one who thinks it seems strange to have the Tarheels
bounced out in the semi's and not have a dozen excuses why? Not to
mention the accompanying "Dean chokes" notes.
billl
|
| 14.1418 | Once a loser, always a loser | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Mon Apr 03 1995 19:36 | 14 |
| Despite having six McDonald's All-Americans on the team, Dean's squad
was not as deep as Arkansas'? Give me a freakin' break! The only
reason the Heels weren't as deep was that Dean chose not to be. He
surely could've used Zwikker in the second half to compensate for
the inside game of the Hogs, but he didn't. He could have played
Sullivan or Landry more instead of the hospelessly outclassed Calabria,
but he didn't. He could have pressed Arkansas right back, since the
one weakness of the Hogs is ballhandling, but he didn't.
Carolina could have and should have beaten Arkansas - Dean just didn't
let them do it. And the legend of the biggest loser in Final Four
history continues to grow.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1419 | some heep | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Mon Apr 03 1995 19:53 | 26 |
| The essence of Dean's incompetence can be illustrated in the way he and
the team failed to defend Williamson.
The game plan going in was to cover him one-on-one with Rasheed. On
paper, a quick and agile 6'10" shot blocker/All American should be able
to cover a 6'7" power forward/All American. About 2 minutes into the
game, it became apparent that this defense was not working. Rasheed
looked tentative like he was more concerned with fouling out than
guarding his man.
And did the Heels adapt or change? Hail no!
And that is the essence of Dean.
In terms of player talent, the major flop was Donald Williams who did his
best imitation of Brick Fox from a couple of years ago. Dante Calabria
looked like he shouldn't have been on the floor with the other 9 players.
And as mentioned, the lack of bench is all Dean. They have a_excellent
player in Shamond Williams who most of you probably have never seen.
Serge is adequate as is Pearce Landry. In all honesty, I don't think any
of the Heels would ever get far enough to need a a bench. Their principal
rivals in the ACC, Maryland and Wake, are basically a starting unit only
themselves.
TTom
|
| 14.1420 | | PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing | Mon Apr 03 1995 19:58 | 3 |
| Heels >> Minutemen
Mark.
|
| 14.1421 | Zwikker, Landry - got any more good laughers Nazz? | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Mon Apr 03 1995 20:09 | 14 |
| He tried Zwikker, Landry and Sullivan and they were more outclassed
than Calabria and Donald. The latter had a fantastic first half and
the former a good overall game. NC was much the better team that half
after a cold start. But they didn't bury Arkansas, that is a Dean
problem; keeping teams in the game.
Dean switched to Stackhouse covering Williamson finally he double
teamed him. What he was minute(s) late doing was changing from 3 pters
to driving to the basket. Arkansas was nearly guilty of a monumental
choke losing an 11 point lead down to 1 in < 3 minutes.
This was the failure of Wallace I'd anticipated earlier - perhaps
seeing Stackhouse injured and limping demoralized him. Stackhouse
deserves some award for his courage.
|
| 14.1422 | not from here | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Mon Apr 03 1995 20:39 | 10 |
| Caint quite follow the string, but, Calabria shot 1-fer-10, couldn't
guard the ref much less any of the Arkansas players and committed a
totally boned haid foul at the end when the Heels still had a chance.
With the shot clock getting ready to go to zero, Calabria grabbed Beck
who promptly hit both free throws.
I'm not sure what part of the game he looked good during. Maybe the
pregame shoot around?
TTom
|
| 14.1423 | Why were you being tru to your Conference? | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Tue Apr 04 1995 13:25 | 7 |
| I was referring to the first half where he made his 3 and played
agressively and moved the ball. He was atrocious along with the rest
in the second half.
Only Stackhouse played well and he with one leg. I'm hardly a Calabria
fan except to say in contrast to how bad he was in second half he was
okay in first.
|
| 14.1424 | | SKII::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Tue Apr 04 1995 13:29 | 13 |
|
Nice job by the Bruins last night. They dominated the boards and that was
the biggest difference imo. Wonder how low Wallace's stock is trading for
today after the number the swd's Zidek did on Big Nasty. Bailey was magnifcent
but Obannon was the man. Anytime they need something Eddie delievered. I pulled
a JoJ last night as I went into the game rooting for the Hogs but the sheer
determination and grit of the Bruins had me rooting for them before the end.
I'd say Eddie OBannon made the right choice 4 years ago when he stiff SU
for UCLa. If he had gone to SU he probably would have been in the title game
last night but wouldn't have gotten to cut down the nets...........
mike
|
| 14.1425 | Zidek > Rasheed | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Tue Apr 04 1995 13:40 | 8 |
| You gotta believe Jim Harrick partied lasted night. And Ed O'Bannon
certainly didn't do anything to hurt his stock. Zidek completely shut
down Williamson and the rest of Arkansas just didn't come through.
Todd Bailey, Cameron Dollar and Charles O'Bannon will give this team a
good core of players for nexted year.
TTom
|
| 14.1426 | Very entertaining - as usual | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Tue Apr 04 1995 13:48 | 20 |
| Funny mike, but I did the same thing. I went in thinking I'd be
rooting for Arkansas, but switched sometime in the first half. I just
loved how they controlled the boards and busted the press and trapping
defense Arkansas is famous for, time after time. A friend was telling
me about this Bailey kid and he was something else. I think I also
switched because I wanted to see UCLA come through without their star
guard. I never did hear, what happened to Edney's wrist?
Anyone else notice what an idiot Billy Packer is? Early in the second
half he kept saying how fatigue was setting in on UCLA. Meanwhile,
they're fast-breaking down for a layup. Oops, they're grabbing their
shorts now, uh-oh, another fast break. Then the play where Dollar is
bringing it up and Billy's screaming that has to be a foul (on Dillard)
He fouled him twice, Billy screams. The replay shows clearly that
Dollar banged into the defender twice and then slipped. Billy's just
too good for himself. I want a mute button for certain announcers, but
still hear the crowd, band, etc. Someone invent one please! :*)
Spud
|
| 14.1427 | Congrats to UCLA - they earned the title | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Tue Apr 04 1995 13:51 | 14 |
| An excellent performance by essentially five men, as Henderson was
useless and spent most of the evening sittin' beside Edney. I
guarantee you that nobody would have given UCLA a chance if they knew
Edney wasn't gonna play.
Ed O'Bannon really stepped up and showed what senior leadership is all
about. Toby Bailey showed the world what the people who saw him at the
Boston Shootout found out last summer - that he is truly a fun player
to watch and has an incredibly explosive game. But the Bruin who may
ahve maaade himself the most money last night was George Zidek. His
defense against Corliss was superb, and you gotta love that hook shot!
I'll wager there's room on some NBA roster for him nexted season.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1428 | Packer is a_idiot | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Tue Apr 04 1995 14:03 | 10 |
| Billy Packer is a_idiot and on the list of announcers I refuse to listen
to.
Most of the time, I was watching and taping Serial Mom on another TV
while I assumed he would go on and on about something he had prepared to
say regardless of what was happening. That he was commenting on UCLA
wearing down when it was obvious that they we're outplaying and
outhustling Arkansas lasted night it not surpising.
TTom
|
| 14.1429 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Tue Apr 04 1995 14:13 | 9 |
|
Not only does Billy Packer beat things into the ground but
last night he lauded a piece of UCLA strategy and then the
first time that Arkansas scored he says, "Harrick has to be
questioning the wisdom of that." Then there's his need to
fill every minute of air time with audio even if he has
absolutely nothing to say. Between him, Raftery with his
Vitale imitation and Vitale with his Regis Philbin imitation,
it's enough to bring back the glory days of radio.
|
| 14.1430 | Packer's a dog | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Tue Apr 04 1995 14:25 | 11 |
| I actually had to listen to the radio because I was picking up the dog
because she ate the rug at her new home which wasn't the right place...
Oh, sorry Tommy that's not your thing.. I'll skip the dog talk.
Anyway, Vitale was on the radio and the announcer had a voice vs the
shouting on tv and Freddie Baby was pointing out the crucial role of
Zidek. When I finally got to the tv Zidek was out, Arkansas was making
a mild comeback but Packer didn't have a clue.
Packer drives me crazy about all the time but he's obviously hired to
try to reach very casual fans according to some network formula.
|
| 14.1431 | The one, The only | AGNT99::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Tue Apr 04 1995 16:14 | 36 |
| from the NCAA's greatest players/teams poll on the internet:
Bill Russell (San Francisco) He put the San Francisco basketball
program on the map in the mid-fifties. The 6-foot-10 center led
San Francisco to a back-to-back Final Four titles in 1955 and
1956. He was named to the All-Final Four Team twice and won
the MVP honor in 1955. Russell averaged 22.5 points and posted a
4-0 mark in his Final Four career. San Francisco recorded title
game victories over La Salle (77-63) in 1955 and Iowa (83-71)
in 1956. Russell saved his best for last, recording 26 points and a
Final Four-record 27 rebounds in the title game vs. Iowa. Russell
stills owns the two-game total for rebounds (50) that he
established in the 1956 classic.
The Teams
1955-1956 SAN FRANCISCO (29-0) How do you improve on a
season in which you go 28-1 and win the Final Four? That's
exactly what San Francisco was up against in 1956, and they met
the challenge. The Dons posted a 29-0 mark and won their
second consecutive title. The Dons dominated their opponents,
winning all but two of their regular season clashes by double digits
and averaging a 14-point victory margin. San Francisco had only
one close call the entire season, a 65-58 win over Marquette.
Unanimous first-team All-American Bill Russell led the squad,
averaging 20.6 points and 21 rebounds. Sharing the offensive load
with Russell were fellow seniors K.C. Jones and Hal Perry, who
averaged 9.8 and 9.1 points, respectively. Also contributing were
junior Carl Boldt (8.6) and sophomores Mike Farmer (8.4 points
and 7.8 rebounds), Gene Brown (7.1) and Mike Preaseau (4.1).
San Francisco managed to prevail in the tournament despite the
fact that Jones was ineligible to play in the postseason. Russell
picked up the slack, saving his best for the championship game vs.
Iowa when he scored 26 points and pulled down a game-high 27
rebounds.
|
| 14.1432 | | CAMONE::WAY | USS Pickerel SS-177, On Eternal Patrol | Tue Apr 04 1995 16:19 | 14 |
| >exactly what San Francisco was up against in 1956, and they met
>the challenge. The Dons posted a 29-0 mark and won their
Good thing they didn't call themselves the San Francisco /Dons.....
I guess I was going for UCLA, since we UCONN fans cans say we lost a
close Elite Eight game to the national champs.
My s-i-l went to Arkansas, so I guess she's bummin' this morning.....
'Saw
|
| 14.1433 | | DZIGN::ROBICHAUD | L.T. - What a Man! | Tue Apr 04 1995 19:05 | 6 |
| 14.1434 | Thoughts On Championship | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Wed Apr 05 1995 17:32 | 43 |
| I kind of wanted UCLA to win going into the game simply because
I felt Arkansas had so many close calls that I couldn't feel
real bad for them if they lost. I also thought it would be nice
for UCLA to exorcise the past 20 years.
After beginning to watch the game, I couldn't help but really
want UCLA to win. With Edney gone, their rotation seemed to go
from 7 to 6 and thats significant against a team like Arkansas.
I figured UCLA's advantage would be team speed and Arkansas' would
be depth and so with the fastest guy gone and UCLA's depth reduced
by one, it sure didn't look good.
As everyone knows, Ed Obannon looked great. But, boy, Baily sure
was something else too. What really got me was his poise for a
freshman; the one commodity that I don't know how it is one person
has and another does not. Baily was 12/20 and I think 3 of the
misses were on purpose (hard off the glass). And he really fought
on the boards. Thats really where the game was won - rebounding.
When Arkansas took it to within 4, I thought it was all over for
UCLA, but somehow they hung in. The bomb to Obannon for a jam was
a fitting finish.
As far as Packer...he bothers me some, but not real much. You can
tell he truly loves the game. I know he has a need to always have
to say *something*, but I find that he sometimes clues me in on
things that should be obvious, but sometimes I (and others?) might
not quite notice with the right emphasis.
Mainly I'm thinking about how he complimented UCLA's ability to pass
and catch from the interior. After he said that, I was especially
observant of this capability UCLA had. I also think he made a good
(although obvious) point about UCLA maybe tiring at the end. I'm
amazed they didn't tire more with what little rotation they were
allowed to have.
Good for UCLA. I'm happy for them.
Amazing what ONE play can do for a team though. If Edney doesn't
drop that unorthodox one-hander...UCLA's just an underachieving 3rd
round wannabe.
Tony
|
| 14.1435 | Sagarin misses another season | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Thu Apr 06 1995 15:17 | 10 |
| The final Sagarin ratings were published today in USA Today.
Poor ol' Jeff thinks Kentucky won it all, giving them the number 1 rating
over the real winner UCLA, followed by No Carolina. Arkansas is way down
there at #11.
Why he even bothers is a mystery to me. And even more puzzling is why
anyone even bothers to buy his crap and print it.
TTom
|
| 14.1436 | the Tark is back and back at it | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:09 | 18 |
| Wail, the Tark is back and he's already making news.
Fresno St has hired Tarkanian and the rumors are hot and heavy that he is
trying to woo Stephon Marbury from his verbal commitment to Georgia Tech
and Paul Pierce from Kansas. Both are high school AAs.
As was his style at UNLV, Tark's technique is to go for players who have
verbally committed but haven't formally signed. He goes to those players
and offers about any and everything he can which is these cases is
rumored to be job offers for family and friends of the players.
Right now, the NCAA rules do not forbid going after a player when only a
verbal commitment has been made.
So far, Marbury's father is denying that Stephon is considering any
change and reaffirmed that he is still going to Georgia Tech.
TTom
|
| 14.1437 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:13 | 6 |
|
RE: Tark
I bet people wouldn't be as hard on him if he didn't look
like Morocco Mole... :-) Make him better looking and people
would call him Rick Pitino.
|
| 14.1438 | To which man is that more unfair? | MUNDIS::SSHERMAN | Steve Sherman @MFR DTN 865-2944 | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:14 | 5 |
| Jerry Tarkanian, the Don King of college basketball.
How can Fresno State afford him?
Steve
|
| 14.1439 | money maker | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:31 | 9 |
| >Jerry Tarkanian, the Don King of college basketball.
>
>How can Fresno State afford him?
Oh, Tark pays for himself. By stealing the top talent, he'll bring in the
big bucks from the alums and boosters. The more he steals from others the
more his program will generate the $s.
TTom
|
| 14.1440 | | MKOTS3::LONG | Play ball!! | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:37 | 11 |
| re Tark:
You can't 'steal' something that doesn't 'belong' to someone
else. As long as what he is doing is within the 'rules of
engagment', I don't see anything wrong with it.
A verbal commitment is not worth the breath used for it these
days.
billl
|
| 14.1441 | unfortunately, it don't mean a thing | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:42 | 10 |
| Yeah, I guess in the day and age when you publicly commit to something it
don't mean a hill of beans. Hail, even when you sign a contract, it still
comes down to who has the better lawyer.
Also, it all fairness to Tark, the ploy of offering friends and relatives
jobs to lure players is as old as recruiting. Locally, the Heels still
remember how one of their own Larry Brown got Danny Manning to go to
Kansas by hiring his father.
TTom
|
| 14.1442 | Draft gets a little deeper | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | I have no answers | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:43 | 4 |
| In other college bball news ... 'Super' Mario from Arizona State
has given up his final year of eligibility and declared for the
NBA draft ...
|
| 14.1443 | lack of support | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 14:47 | 7 |
| Yeah, Mario was supposedly unhappy by the lack of support that the locals
give to the Devils. Apparenlty, a lot of people claim to be supporters
but in fack don't even attent the home games.
Shameful.
TTom
|
| 14.1444 | Subtle, very subtle - but hilarious | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Fri Apr 07 1995 15:01 | 3 |
| Re. -1: A definite contender for NOTY - a classic!!!
NAZZ
|
| 14.1445 | | MKOTS3::LONG | Spring has sprung, grass has riz | Fri Apr 07 1995 15:10 | 11 |
| >Yeah, Mario was supposedly unhappy by the lack of support that the locals
>give to the Devils. Apparenlty, a lot of people claim to be supporters
>but in fack don't even attent the home games.
>Shameful.
Yer right TTom, shameful! I wonder if anyone we know fits this mold????
billl
|
| 14.1446 | he needs another year | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 07 1995 15:48 | 1 |
| 14.1447 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | End Corporate Welfare Instead! | Fri Apr 07 1995 16:14 | 6 |
|
as long as he doesn't sign with an agent he can test the waters see where
he gets drafted and if he doesn't like, go back to school without loosing
his eligibility if I remember the rules correctly.......
mike
|
| 14.1448 | knees | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 16:25 | 5 |
| That's how I understand it, at least for the NBA.
One of the issues with Mario is how good/bad are his knees.
TTom
|
| 14.1449 | Veshon Leonard | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:26 | 7 |
| Veshon Leonard (is that the last name?) of Minnesota tested
the waters and got drafted in the 2nd round by the Bucks.
He decided to go back to school and did, but was bound
for some time period by the Bucks.
So there is a restriction in terms of clubs holding your
rights.
|
| 14.1450 | the restriction | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:32 | 6 |
| Here's how the restriction works:
Once a_undergraduate is picked by a NBA team, that team owns his rights
until one year after his class graduates.
TTom
|
| 14.1451 | could use him now | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:35 | 1 |
| 14.1452 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:37 | 6 |
| 14.1453 | back at ya | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:45 | 18 |
| No, Mike, I don't live in Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill so this don't
wash. However, as a real fan of NC State, having actually gone there, I
do catch them as often as I can. Usually they play one or 2 games in this
area each year and I've seen several of them. They'll be back nexted year
at Davidson if'n I'm in town I'll be there. When I lived in Raleigh, I
seldom missed a game even though I worked and went to night school.
I am not a fan of No Carolina although I see them quite often as well.
They host a tourney every December at the Hive and I've seen it several
times. Also, when they play it here, I go to the ACC Tournament which is
no small feat considering they sell out every year and you have to try to
pick up tickets any way you can.
I do have season tickets to the Hornets and go to every game I'm in town
for. In anticipation of another possibility, I have season tickets to the
Panthers, as well.
TTom
|
| 14.1454 | what a joke | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:48 | 3 |
| 14.1455 | yeah right | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:51 | 0 |
| 14.1456 | nice comeback too | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 07 1995 17:52 | 1 |
| 14.1457 | Do you have a second job? :*) | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Apr 07 1995 18:09 | 6 |
| In this day and age, having season tickets means you're loaded.
;*)
Spud
|
| 14.1458 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Fri Apr 07 1995 18:09 | 3 |
| Mike, how far are you from the ASU campus?
TTom, how far are you from the NCSU campus?
|
| 14.1459 | but I could be wrong... | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Apr 07 1995 18:36 | 4 |
| > In this day and age, having season tickets means you're loaded.
And with multi-team season tickets I'd have to say that you're not
married, and DEFINITELY do not have kids.
|
| 14.1460 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | I Love the Dorito's Babies.... | Fri Apr 07 1995 18:38 | 3 |
|
Amen to that!!
|
| 14.1461 | almost beyond blackout range | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 07 1995 19:04 | 1 |
| 14.1462 | The Big Nasty leaves | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | I have no answers | Fri Apr 07 1995 19:47 | 14 |
| .. and another underclassman declares .. Corliss Williamson
has given up his senior year and declared himself eligible
for the NBA draft .. Corliss has also hired an agent, so he is
INELIGIBLE to return to the Razorbacks should he not be happy with
where he gets selected ..
Off the top of my head that makes the following underclassmen
available for the draft:
Corliss Williamson Arkansas forward (jr)
Mario Bennett Arizona St forward (jr)
whats-his-name Virginia point guard (jr)
Vinny
|
| 14.1463 | back atcha | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 19:50 | 17 |
| > TTom, how far are you from the NCSU campus?
200 miles.
> In this day and age, having season tickets means you're loaded.
Not on company time. Now, tonight when I go to see the Ultimate Fighting
Championship, you might be right. But, I'm going with a friend who's
a Charlotte police officer and she'll be driving.
>And with multi-team season tickets I'd have to say that you're not
>married, and DEFINITELY do not have kids.
Bingo, Bingo. My cats aren't that much into hoops since Magic retired and
want no part of my hooting and hollering during NFL.
TTom
|
| 14.1464 | Alexander | HBAHBA::HAAS | recurring recusancy | Fri Apr 07 1995 19:52 | 10 |
| > whats-his-name Virginia point guard (jr)
Vinny,
Cory Alexander who's missed both of the lasted 2 years with injuries.
He's been given one more year or elibility but he declared anyway.
This list will most certainly grow.
TTom
|
| 14.1465 | mileage wars | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 07 1995 20:29 | 1 |
| 14.1466 | Article about Mark Blount | WRKSYS::KNIKER | Hay saved and Cork beat | Fri Apr 14 1995 13:50 | 142 |
|
Here's a long article I just received about Mark Blount (the potential Syracuse,
err Texas, err Louisville, err UNLV, err ... recruit).
Chris
Copyright 1995 The Austin American-Statesman
Austin American-Statesman
April 11, 1995
HEADLINE: Vagabond star: College is next step for Blount
BYLINE: WAYNE COFFEY
The wandering high school life of Mark Blount is edging toward a close
now, after three states, seven schools and more twists than a leaf in a
windstorm. It hasn't been four years so much as it has been a mini-series, the
installments including having his life threatened with a gun, getting a stern
talking-to from the NCAA and dealing with two nearly constant companions --
controversy and college recruiters.
In Detroit, at the Magic Johnson Roundball Classic, Blount was on the
floor with other members of America's prep elite. He scored nine points. He
expects to graduate from Dobbs Ferry (N.Y.) High School in June. Beyond that,
not much is certain about Blount other than that he is a long-limbed young man
of staggering potential and that Tom Konchalski, a respected prep scouting
maven, was not far off in describing him.
"He is the Marco Polo of high school basketball,'' Konchalski said. He
also is said to be considering playing for the University of Texas.
Mark Blount, 19, a Parade All-American, is forging an enduring identity.
Is he a 7-footer with all the moves or just a 7-footer who moves? Is he a
fundamentally good kid who has made some bad decisions, a kid with ample time
to sort things out? A kid who has struggled without the moorings of a stable
family life?
Or is he a guy who already has been sucked into the seamy underbelly of
big-time sports, who thinks he's untouchable and that guaranteed millions
will be his ... because for years the system and a dubious assortment of adults
have told him so?
Blount was the high school player of the year in Westchester County this
season. He led Dobbs Ferry to an 18-3 record, averaging 24 points, 14
rebounds and six blocks, and showing an uncommon gift for passing. Coach John
Costello said he was a bit cautious about Blount given his itinerant past but
said Blount quickly won him over.
"He is a great kid,'' Costello said. "He was easy to work with. He worked
very hard in practice. He was well-liked. He was like the pied piper (in
school), the way little kids followed him around.''
Costello's kind words are echoed by others who know Blount. Sensitive,
articulate, mild-mannered are the adjectives used to describe him. "He's a
very gentle soul. He really is,'' said Lou d'Almeida, coach of the Gauchos, one
of Blount's former summer-league teams. "He's too gentle. He trusts everybody.
You can't trust everybody, because not everybody has your best interests at
heart.''
What also is apparent about Blount, however, is the sometimes sizable gap
between what he says and what he does. He agreed to be interviewed for this
story, but did not show. He did not respond to more than a dozen messages
after that. One area coach who knows him called Blount "a good guy with no
accountability.''
Long before he wound up in Dobbs Ferry, Blount grew up in Yonkers, just
five miles to the south. When he was in his early teens, his mother moved to
Summerville, S.C. Mark spent ninth grade at Summerville High, then went to
nearby Fort Dorchester. Midway through his sophomore year, he transferred to
Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Va., a renowned prep power coached by
highly respected Steve Smith.
While playing on a nationally ranked team that included Jerry Stackhouse,
Blount's game developed rapidly at Oak Hill. So did some problems.
Smith said he learned that Blount had become acquainted with Rob Johnson,
the street scout who has been linked to NCAA violations that helped put Syracuse
and Texas A&M on probation. The modus operandi of Johnson and other street
agents, or runners, is to woo kids, typically with gifts, cash or favors. The
funds might come from the booster of a school who wants the kid to go there, or
from an agent seeking a big payback when the kid turns pro.
A young man such as Mark Blount -- disconnected from family and any
consistent parental influence -- is the perfect sort of prey.
"These guys out there are getting to kids earlier and earlier,'' said Bob
Minnix, the NCAA's director of enforcement. "The agent (issue) is a real
problem for us.''
Smith said he saw Johnson at some Oak Hill games. The coach's suspicions
were heightened even more when he saw Blount wearing a new full-length leather
coat. Smith confronted Blount. He said Blount at first denied being involved
with Johnson, but later admitted he was.
Though Smith was reluctant to discuss any details of Blount's two seasons
at Oak Hill, the coach acknowledged he did not want Johnson around and told
Blount so. Smith was also troubled by other developments: three positive drug
tests (for marijuana) and an incident in which Blount and a classmate were
allegedly linked to the theft of some cash from a student's room.
Minnix, of the NCAA, flew to Oak Hill and met with Blount. Minnix declined
to discuss the specifics of the meeting, but a school official said the essence
of it was that Blount would be jeopardizing his college eligibility if he
continued to consort with Johnson or any other runner.
When Smith became convinced Blount was not heeding the message, the coach
sent him on his way. This was last spring, the end of Blount's junior year.
Late last summer, Blount and Sanginiti took an apartment in New Rochelle,
and Blount enrolled at New Rochelle High School, hoping to play for Coach Nat
Harris. Section 1, which presides over Westchester scholastic sports, ruled
him ineligible amid questions about his residency, said Section 1 president John
Whearty. Blount then transferred to Dobbs Ferry, and in early December was
cleared to play there by Section 1.
Two weeks ago, Blount again was on the verge of trouble.
Norman Miller, 34, of Yonkers, has been arraigned on charges of menacing
and unlawful imprisonment after allegedly pointing a gun at Blount and Sanginiti.
Miller has pleaded not guilty.
The alleged incident occurred in Hastings-on-Hudson, a village just south
of Dobbs Ferry. According to Lt. Vincent Schiavone of the Hastings police,
Miller apparently had gone to Dobbs Ferry to collect money he claimed Sanginiti
owed him. In a statement he made to police, Blount said he and Sanginiti were
driving Miller back to Yonkers when Miller pulled out a .32 automatic.
Where Mark Blount goes from here is unclear. Last fall, he committed to
Massachusetts, a pledge that a school spokesman said UMass and Blount
mutually retracted after published reports of the program's academic woes.
Blount is close to getting the 700 score on the SAT that would make him eligible
to play collegiately next fall. Syracuse, Texas and Louisville are among the
schools vying for him.
"I think Mark has the seeds to be the kind of person he can be,'' said
Harris, the New Rochelle coach. "What can make all the things in the past
somewhat passe is him landing in a college program where he can improve on
his game, and with a coach who stands for no nonsense. I think that's what Mark
needs to grow up.''
|
| 14.1467 | exit | CNTROL::CHILDS | | Fri Apr 14 1995 14:33 | 4 |
|
Sounds like he needs to come to Georgetown to me.................
;^)
|
| 14.1468 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NY YANKEES 1995 WORLD CHAMPS!!!!! | Fri Apr 14 1995 14:36 | 3 |
|
I second that....
|
| 14.1469 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Apr 14 1995 14:49 | 4 |
| > Sounds like he needs to come to Georgetown to me.................
No, he doesn't have the name for G'town. They just signed another
beauty yesterday: Godwin Owinje (6'8", Bismarck, ND).
|
| 14.1470 | Gibbons' Top 50 recruits | HBAHBA::HAAS | You ate my hiding place. | Fri Apr 14 1995 16:42 | 58 |
| Here's Bob Gibbons Top 50 recruits with where they're headed.
1. Ron Mercer Mouth of Wilson, VA SF 6'7" Tenn,Kentucky*
2. Kevin Garnett Chicago C 6'10" Mich,SC,NC
3. Shar. Abdur-Rahim Marietta, Ga. PF 6'9' California
4. Vince Carter Daytona Beach, FL SG 6'6" No Carolina
5. Stephon Marbury Brooklyn, NY PG 6'1" Georgia Tech*
6. Robert Taylor Detroit, MI C-F 6'7" Michigan
7. Luther Clay Pittsfield, ME PF 6'8' Purdue
8. Albert White Inkster, MI SF 6'5" Michigan
9. Taymon Domzalski Roswell, NM C-F 6'9" Duke
10. Randell Jckson Winchendon, MA C 6'10" NC,Conn,Ky
11. Sam Okey Cassville, WI PF 6'7" Wisconsin
12. Paul Pierce Inglewood, CA G-F 6'6" Kansas
13. Kenny Thomas Albuqueque, NM C-F 6'9" New Mexico
14. Derek Hood Kansas City, MO SF 6'6" Arkanas
15. Louis Bullock Laurel, MD P-SG 6'2" Michigan
16. Tommy Prince Compton, GA SF 6'5" UNLV,USC,Oreg
17. BJ McKie Irmo, SC PG 6'1" So Carolina
18. Chauncey Billups Denver, CO SG 6'3" Colorado
19. Jelani McCoy San Diego, CA C 6'10" UCLA
20. Ryan Robertson St. Charles, MO PG 6'4" Kansas
21. Kris Clack Austin, TX G-F 6'5" Texas
22. Rashamel Jones Stamford, CT G-F 6'4" Connecticut
23. Brian Williams Montgomery, AL P-SG 6'2" Alabama
24. Wayne Turner Chestnut Hills, MA PG 6'2" Kentucky
25. Leonard Johnson Columbia SC C 6'10" So Carolina
26. Courtney James Indianapolis, IN PF 6'8" Minnesota
27. Tim James Miami, FL P-SF 6'8' Miami-FL
28. T. Roberson Saginaw, MI P-WF 6'8" FrsSt,MichSt,Kan
29. Anton Reese Lithonia, GA SG 6'4" Alabama
30. Antawn Jamison Charlotte, NC PF 6'8" No Carolina
31. Ricky Moore Augusta, GA PG 6'2" Connecticut
32. Bobby Joe Evans McKinney, TX C 6'10" Oklahoma
33. Courtney Alexander Durham, NC PG 6'5" Virginia
34. Lonnia Cooper Tallulah, LA PG 6'3" Louisiana Tech
35. N. Sheppard Lake Charles, LA C 6'10" Louisiana St
36. R. Brokenborough Philadelphia, PA SG 6'4" Temple
37. Sam Funches Jackson, MS PF 6'9" Connecticut
38. Ryan Blackwell Pitttsford, NY P-SF 6'7" Illinois
39. Michael Gill Washington, DC SF 6'6" Pittsburgh
40. T.J. Pugh Omaha, NE PF 6'9" Kansas
41. Antric Klaiber Alexandria, VA PF 6'10" Georgetown
42. Melvin Levett Euclid, OH SG 6'3" Cincinnati
43. Gary Bell Joliet, IL SF 6'5" Notre Dame
44. John Celestand Piscataway, NJ P-SG 6'3'" Villanova
45. Andrius Jurkunas Frederick, MD. PF 6'9" Clemson
46. Mark Blount New Rochelle, NY C 6'11" *
47. Howard Brown Pottstown, PA G-F 6'5" Villanova
48. Donald Watts Kirkland, WA P-SG 6'4" Washington
49. Damon Stringer Cleveland Hts, OH PG 5'11" Ohio St
50. Ty Washington Indianola, MS C 6'10" Oklahoma
Notes:
1. #1 Mercer quit considering Vanderbilt; he was rejected for admissions
by the school's Peabody College
2. Supposedly #5 Marbury has sent his letter of intent to Georgia Tech
3. See Note 14.1466 concerning #46 Blount
|
| 14.1471 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 14 1995 16:48 | 4 |
| 14.1472 | Where's UMass??? | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Fri Apr 14 1995 16:51 | 3 |
| re: -1
Boy, UMass is really making a killing!!!
|
| 14.1473 | Garnett still shopping | HBAHBA::HAAS | You ate my hiding place. | Fri Apr 14 1995 16:54 | 12 |
| Garnett is still making the rounds. When last seen, he had pretty much
written off No Carolina and was headed to a prep all stars game in
Louisville. Everyone's expecting both Denny Crum from Louisville and Rick
Pitino of Kentucky to make their pitches.
Remember, that this is just one man's Top 50. There are some lists that
show Top 100. In any case, there's been a lot of signings by UMass and
many others that aren't reflected here.
I'll let UMass fans update what they've done, cause mainly I don't know.
TTom
|
| 14.1474 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Fri Apr 14 1995 17:09 | 5 |
| If UCONN gets the kid from Winchendon that would make 4 of the
top 50 prospects. VERY NICE! I like reloading much better than
rebuilding.
Jimbo
|
| 14.1475 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Apr 14 1995 17:10 | 7 |
| > > 2. Kevin Garnett Chicago C 6'10" Mich,SC,NC
> is this the kid that was the man among boys in the H.S. All-American
> game who also said he may skip college and go to the NBA?
Yes...ala Kemp.
|
| 14.1476 | re UMASS | WMOIS::BALL_K | | Fri Apr 14 1995 17:12 | 6 |
| UMASS
According to yesterdays GLOBE, they have no one signed, and no BIG
names unsigned guys interested
KB
|
| 14.1477 | as expected | OUTSRC::HEISER | next year in Jerusalem! | Fri Apr 14 1995 17:32 | 1 |
| 14.1478 | Garnett and more | POBOX::WIERSBECK | | Fri Apr 14 1995 19:50 | 31 |
| I had the chance to see both Garnett and Mercer play in person last
January. There's a fairly new HS event called "Hoops in the Loop"
played at DePaul each year on MLK's birthday. There were seven games
with teams from all over the US including Mouth of Wilson, VA, St.
Louis, Milwaukee King (top team in WI) Toledo (which was #4 in the
country at the time, Farragut, (Garnett's team) Joliet (with ND recruit
Gary Bell) Chicago's King and other local schools.
Garnett is quite awesome and had an outstanding game against another
local school. He was unstoppable. He's also an excellent passer, shot
blocker and can handle the ball. I've been following his story since
he's local and it seems he's unsure of his future at the moment. He
has listed Michigan, Arkansas, NC and SC as the schools he's interested
in, but he's also having some difficulty obtaining the required SAT
score to be eligible for his freshman year. He's being told if he went
pro that he'd be somewhere middle to late first round. Many are
advising against that, though. There's a printed letter in today's
Sun-Times from Bill Willoughby from three years ago talking about agents
and money problems he's faced in going directly from HS to the pros.
Mercer had an off game, shooting something like 5-19 and didn't
impress. In fact in half or more of the ratings services I've seen,
they've listed Garnett ahead of him as #1. He must be a great player
though.
Bell will definately help out ND. He's not flashy or big (6'5") but
gets good position inside and scores a lot of quiet points. Next thing
you know he has 25 points.
Spud
|
| 14.1479 | USA Today All Prep | HBAHBA::HAAS | You ate my hiding place. | Mon Apr 24 1995 16:09 | 24 |
| USA Today all Prep:
Firsted team:
Kevin Garnett (POY) Chicago 6'10" Mich,SC,NC
Ron Mercer Mouth of Wilson, VA 6'7" Tenn,Kentucky
Stephon Marbury Brooklyn, NY 6'1" Georgia Tech
Shareef Abdur-Rahim Marietta, Ga. 6'9' California
Vince Carter Daytona Beach, FL 6'6" No Carolina
2nd Team:
Paul Pierce Inglewood, CA 6'6" Kansas
Robert Taylor Detroit, MI 6'7" Michigan
Albert White Inkster, MI 6'5" Michigan
Wayne Turner Chestnut Hills, MA 6'2" Kentucky
Randell Jackson Winchendon, MA 6'11" undecided
3rd Team:
Derek Hood Kansas City, MO 6'6" Arkanas
Vonteego Cummiings Thomson, GA 6'3" Pittsburgh
Brian Williams Montgomery, AL 6'2" Alabama
Shammgod Wells LaSalle, NY 6'0" Providence
Kenny Thomas Albuqueque, NM 6'9" New Mexico
Coach of Year: Bernard Griffith, St. Augustine, New Olreans.
|
| 14.1480 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Wed Apr 26 1995 02:58 | 15 |
|
I'm not sure where to put this, and this seems as good a place as any:
THanks to Mike Childs for my Giantsmanis (I noticed this was misspelled
on the shirt) shirt that I won in the only manly contest this notesfile
has ever had. Took about 15 minutes to explain to my wife all the
details of the shirt.
My only regret was that I've been too busy to gt in here much lately
and Whine the way Hal did about not getting my prize quickly enough. I
guess it's the price we sales types have to pay for keeping the rest of
you slackers (not so) gainfully employed.
brews
|
| 14.1481 | exit | CNTROL::CHILDS | Harry Browne in 96 | Wed Apr 26 1995 11:51 | 6 |
|
you're welcome Bruce. Yeah I was waiting for you to do some big-time
whinning before I sent it but then I realized it wasn't going to happen
so I just sent it.........
;^)
|
| 14.1482 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys | Wed Apr 26 1995 15:47 | 8 |
| > Yeah I was waiting for you to do some big-time whinning before I
> sent it but
Guess I don't have enoug Cleveland in me. 8^) Sorry to disappoint
you.
brews
|
| 14.1483 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon May 08 1995 18:58 | 3 |
| Stackhouse announced today that he's leaving NC and entering the NBA
draft. Reasons: 1) worried about a rookie cap next year; 2) Wallace
left; and 3) his mother's health problems.
|
| 14.1484 | Wallace???I doubt it | BSS::MENDEZ | | Mon May 08 1995 20:17 | 6 |
| Stackhouse may be ready for the NBA but there is no way that you can
convince me that Wallace is ready. He has the talent but does not
seem physically able to endure the position of center in the NBA.
Frank
|
| 14.1485 | | WMOIS::REEVE_C | | Tue May 09 1995 12:57 | 4 |
| I like Wallace better than Stackhouse, but at PF not Center. His upside
potential is enormous, and he is 7' tall and an excellent athlete.
Chris
|
| 14.1486 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue May 09 1995 14:02 | 13 |
| > I like Wallace better than Stackhouse, but at PF not Center. His upside
> potential is enormous, and he is 7' tall and an excellent athlete.
I'd take Stackhouse. He's the one Dean gave the ball to when they needed
a big shot. And I think his potential scoring ability in the NBA is
much greater than Wallace's.
We've heard plenty of Wallace's emotional immaturity and it's been mentioned
more than a couple of times that he may not be tough enough to play through
injuries.
Joe Smith and Stackhouse *should* go 1-2...and they're both sophomores.
|
| 14.1487 | Stackhouse has better upside potential | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Tue May 09 1995 14:23 | 8 |
| First, Wallace is 6-10, not 7-0. Second, he has shown no ability to
step up in big games. Third, his maturity - will it ever come, or will
he be a baby forever. Fourth, will he continue to be injury-prone?
He will be definitely not be a center in the pros, but I also doubt he
has the intestinal fortitude to battle the likes of Charles Oakley in
the power forward spot.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1488 | Thanks in advacne | MR1PST::THEKGB::MBROOKS | | Tue May 09 1995 14:25 | 11 |
| There's like 10 Big Name underclassmen coming out early, and why FOR
THE $$$. If these guys are Imature how you ever going to get them
signed to a resonable contract. I hope the Webber/LJ Contracts have
smacked some sense into these GM's. You cant give HUGE #s and HUGE
years to these guys (NO GUARENTEE's) and the Sherman Douglas contract
should be a lesson to GM's as well, 30% raise on trade clause...
Is there a Mock draft note yet, I like to see what talant may be around
later in the 1st round (Celtics/Bulls Options).
mab
|
| 14.1489 | Not 'til next week at the earliest | VERBOS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Tue May 09 1995 15:27 | 4 |
| Tough to set up a mock draft before you know all the underclassmen who
are coming out. Deadline for declaring is this Sunday.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1490 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Harry Browne in 96 | Tue May 09 1995 16:04 | 2 |
|
especially with the status of Duncan, Mcdyness and Camby unknown..
|
| 14.1491 | McDyess could be the real deal | BSS::MENDEZ | | Tue May 09 1995 16:49 | 2 |
| Of the sophomores I would take Mcdyess or Duncan over Wallace....
|
| 14.1492 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Harry Browne in 96 | Tue May 09 1995 17:37 | 4 |
|
IS there anybody who wouldn't other Ack Ack?
mike
|
| 14.1493 | Lappas trying hard to steer him the wrong way. | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue May 09 1995 17:52 | 3 |
| > especially with the status of Duncan, Mcdyness and Camby unknown..
And don't forget about Kerry Kittles.
|
| 14.1494 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Harry Browne in 96 | Tue May 09 1995 18:34 | 7 |
|
Kittles should stay. He's in the same posistion that DC was a few
years ago....
Ray Allen should go though........
;^)
|
| 14.1495 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue May 09 1995 18:36 | 6 |
| > Kittles should stay. He's in the same posistion that DC was a few
> years ago....
But Mike, DC wasn't looking at a likely rookie salary cap the next year.
Kittles is. From all I've read, this is one area that both the owners
and the players agree on.
|
| 14.1496 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Harry Browne in 96 | Tue May 09 1995 19:43 | 8 |
|
true enough but there always seems to be loopholes. If he stays
Nova's a top 5 team if he leaves that number drops significantly.
I personally think he needs atleast one more year of seasoning to
work on his ball handling and creating his own shot.
mike
|
| 14.1497 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue May 09 1995 19:52 | 4 |
| > I personally think he needs atleast one more year of seasoning to
> work on his ball handling and creating his own shot.
...and develop a "want the ball" attitude. Witness NCAA tourney loss.
|
| 14.1498 | The new contract will have a rookie cap for the 1995-96 season | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Wed May 10 1995 14:50 | 13 |
| If there is a salary cap implemented in the next NBA players contract,
there is little doubt that it will be in effect for THIS upcoming
season. So coming out early to avoid the rookie cap makes no sense,
and any agent who tells a college player different is misrepresenting
the facts to his client.
All coming out early will do is hasten the rookie's escaping from the
salary cap. For example, pay may be restricted for three years; that
is, rookies could not get the really big money until the fourth year
they are in the league. Coming out early allows you to push your
timetable to escape the rookie cap by a year.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1499 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed May 10 1995 15:37 | 8 |
| > If there is a salary cap implemented in the next NBA players contract,
> there is little doubt that it will be in effect for THIS upcoming
> season. So coming out early to avoid the rookie cap makes no sense,
> and any agent who tells a college player different is misrepresenting
> the facts to his client.
So do you expect a freeze on signing drafted players (ie: rookies) until
a new CBA is in place ?
|
| 14.1500 | Depends on progress of contract talks | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks for a great year UMass! | Wed May 10 1995 17:58 | 3 |
| If there is no agreement by draft day, yes.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1501 | Some overachievers, some underachievers | CSOA1::SIMPSON_T | run-by fruiting | Thu Jun 01 1995 01:18 | 56 |
|
In case you were wondering whether the Tarheels REALLY DO get more than their
share of AAs, the following list was sent to me by Bob Roper, a Kentucky fan
who used to spend some time in here. It comes from a recent issue of Prep
Stars Recruiter's Handbook, by a guy named Dave Glenn. These are the schools
with the most McDonald's All-Americans since the spectacle began in 1977.
(The totals *do* include this year's recruiting class to whatever date it
was written.)
North Carolina 32 [Glenn calls these schools "Big Macs"]
Duke 22
Kentucky 19
UCLA 17
Michigan 15 ["Quarter Pounders"]
Louisville 14
Indiana 13
Kansas 13
Georgia Tech 10
Notre Dame 10
Maryland 10
Arkansas 9
Syracuse 9
St. John's 9
Georgia 8 ["Cheeseburgers"]
Illinois 8
Iowa 8
Georgetown 7
UNLV 7
Virginia 7
DePaul 6
Memphis 6
Ohio State 6
Alabama 5 ["Hamburgers"]
Arizona 5
Cincinnati 5
Florida State 5
Louisiana State 5
Villanova 5
Wake Forest 5
Michigan State 5
Clemson 4
Purdue 4
Brigham Young 3
Florida 3
Missouri 3
NC State 3
Southern Cal 3
Temple 3
Boston College 2
Connecticut 2
Miami (Fl) 2
UMASS 1
|
| 14.1502 | Bobby Knight, IU fined | HBAHBA::HAAS | Co-Captor of the Wind Demon | Wed Jun 14 1995 14:28 | 8 |
| The lowered the boom again on Bobby Knight. This time it was for his
outburst during a postgame interview after Indiana lost in the tourney.
Someone had informed the press that IU and Knight would not be at the
postgame. Knight showed up and had some choice words, bleeps, and
expletives to share. It'll cost IU $30K.
TTom
|
| 14.1503 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Washing Machine | Tue Nov 14 1995 16:37 | 28 |
|
AP top 25
Kentucky
Kansas
Villanova - will drop quick as they usually start slow
UCLA
Georgetown - have all the pieces just need Iverson's head on straight
UConn - overrated but Allen is super
UMass - ????
Iowa
Mississippi St.
Utah
Wake Forest - underated??
Louisville
Memphis
Missouri
Maryland
Arkansas
Michigan
Stanford
Virgina
UNC - can't remember them this low
Cincinnati
Virgina Tech
Indiana
Purdue
California
|
| 14.1504 | not that good | HBAHBA::HAAS | graffiti limbo | Tue Nov 14 1995 16:42 | 17 |
| > Wake Forest - underated??
With POY candidate Tim Duncan but lost Randolph Childress.
> Maryland
Without lasted years POY, Joe Smith but everyone else.
> UNC - can't remember them this low
Lost Stackhouse, Wallace, Donald Williams; will start Zwei
Zwikker (sp?) and a couple of rookie sensations.
This could be a down year for the ACC. Duke may come back to join some of
these.
TTom
|
| 14.1505 | re Wake Forest | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Tue Nov 14 1995 16:48 | 3 |
| Will Rusty LaRue when he's done quarterbacking the football team start
this year? He's one of the best clutch shooting 3-pointers I've ever
seen.
|
| 14.1506 | dunno | HBAHBA::HAAS | graffiti limbo | Tue Nov 14 1995 16:49 | 5 |
| Aint seen much on hoops thised year.
Alas, I've let my subscription to _Poop Sheet_ expire...
TTom
|
| 14.1507 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Tue Nov 14 1995 18:00 | 4 |
| I'm pretty sure he is a starter, He starts hoop practice Sunday I
think. Decent article on him in ESPNET in the college hoop section.
Jimbo
|
| 14.1508 | Web address? | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Tue Nov 14 1995 18:46 | 4 |
| Decent article on him in ESPNET in the college hoop section.
^^^^^^
Is that a web page?
|
| 14.1509 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Tue Nov 14 1995 19:02 | 5 |
| http://espnet.sportszone.com/
the mecca of web sites 8*)
Jimbo
|
| 14.1510 | | CAM::WAY | Nine to the front, six to the rear | Wed Nov 15 1995 13:43 | 14 |
| > http://espnet.sportszone.com/
>
> the mecca of web sites 8*)
This is as good a place as any:
Thanks to Glenn, my Mosaic is now working like a champ,
I've got the latest and greatest software, and can access
some of these wonderful sites....
'Saw
|
| 14.1511 | Lets go Hoyas!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Da Raidas!!!!! | Wed Nov 15 1995 14:51 | 3 |
|
Damn that glenn is great!!
|
| 14.1512 | | CAM::WAY | Nine to the front, six to the rear | Wed Nov 15 1995 14:56 | 6 |
| >
> Damn that glenn is great!!
>
I'm tellin' ya, the guy is a TRUE network GENIUS!
|
| 14.1513 | preseason AA | HBAHBA::HAAS | graffiti limbo | Wed Nov 15 1995 14:58 | 12 |
| Preseason All-American, in order of votes:
Tim Duncan, Wake Forest
Kerry Kittles, Villanova
Ray Allen, UConn
Marcus Camby, UMass
Ryan Minor, Olahoma
And tonight the preseason NIT starts with Manhatten going to Georgia
Tech.
TTom
|
| 14.1514 | 'diaper dandies' | HBAHBA::HAAS | graffiti limbo | Wed Nov 15 1995 15:43 | 13 |
| From USA Today, here's some "Freshmen to Watch".
Stephon Marbury, Georgia Tech, 6-1 G
Vince Carter, No Carolina, 6-5 F
Shareef Abdur-Rahim, California, 6-10 F
Chancey Billups, Colorado, 6-3 G
Jelani McCoy, UCLA, 6-10 C
ron Mercer, Kentucky, 6-7 F
Paul Pierce, Knasas, 6-6 F
Robert Taylor, Michigan, 6-9 F
Wayne Turner, Kentucky, 6-2 Guard
TTom
|
| 14.1515 | No Chris to refute dam! | CNTROL::CHILDS | Washing Machine | Wed Nov 15 1995 16:11 | 11 |
|
Allen Iverson will make that all-american team. Camby won't.
Didn't watch alot of the Dicky V. special last night but just enough
to catch Tarheels excuse #348 "Too Much Talent". They were talking
about Kentucky being 10 deep and old Deano was prolixing about having
too many high caliber players. Naturally Ricky P. said it was nonsense
and that a coach who knows what he's doing, should be able to keep
everybody happy and together.
mike
|
| 14.1516 | dine and whine | HBAHBA::HAAS | graffiti limbo | Wed Nov 15 1995 16:17 | 19 |
| The thing about some of these players is to appreciate 'em while they're
here cause few of the better ones will stick around long.
I've already heard the rumors about Marbury only being at Georgia Tech
for 2 years, max. Iverson looked ready to jump to the pros lasted year.
re: Pitino/Kentucky
Looks like everyone's pick for #1. I caint imagine Pitino whining cause
he's got too much talent.
re: Dean
Carter and Jameison will probably both start. Dean's concern thised year
is not too much talent but too little heighth. After Zwikker, there's a
real drop off. Of course without Zwikker they'd probably be a better
although smaller team.
TTom
|
| 14.1517 | | GENRAL::WADE | Ah'm Yo Huckleberry... | Wed Nov 15 1995 16:19 | 6 |
|
TTom,
That would be "Chauncey Billups".
Claybone
|
| 14.1518 | having been Being There | HBAHBA::HAAS | graffiti limbo | Wed Nov 15 1995 16:21 | 6 |
| Right you are Claybone.
One can only hope that Chauncey Billups is a better basketball player
than Chauncey Gardner. ;-).
TTom
|
| 14.1519 | Can't make an impact as a freshman if you don't play | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Barros > Douglas | Wed Nov 15 1995 16:37 | 4 |
| I doubt Turner will get much PT at all at Kentucky - they are two deep
at ever yposition without him.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1520 | | GENRAL::WADE | Ah'm Yo Huckleberry... | Wed Nov 15 1995 17:04 | 7 |
|
Chauncey was awesome in high school. Nobody could stay with
him (in Colorado). I don't know how that will correlate to
big time college ball considering CO is not a hotbed of BBall
talent.
Claybone
|
| 14.1521 | it started as a one-year pit-stop | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Nov 15 1995 17:26 | 4 |
| >I've already heard the rumors about Marbury only being at Georgia Tech
>for 2 years, max.
That's a year more than I read this summer.
|
| 14.1522 | could be | HBAHBA::HAAS | graffiti limbo | Wed Nov 15 1995 17:35 | 8 |
| I guess they're assuming that he *CAN* stay in school for 2 years.
Marbury had a very convoluded time mustering the necessary prerequisites
to even get into college.
One thing that seems a lock is that he won't stay his full term.
TTom
|
| 14.1523 | It 'll all come down to what Dicky V thinks | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Wed Nov 15 1995 18:16 | 9 |
| Two years is about average for those guys
Pitino should talk, he's taken Dean's mantle as the guy that can't win
it all
Ha, Camby doesn't belong on AA team ?!! No point arguing since it's
now show time. Remenber umass gets a lot of intersectional tv exposure
with that schedule.
|
| 14.1524 | ...and it's amazing that he survives through the anti-Camby ref conspiracy! | IMBETR::DUPREZ | Will work for sleep.. | Wed Nov 15 1995 18:27 | 5 |
|
Yeah, don't you know that Camby could play 'Zo and the Admiral one on two and
kick both their butts?
Geez, I don't know what's wrong with you guys!!!! :-)
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| 14.1525 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Washing Machine | Wed Nov 15 1995 18:43 | 9 |
|
hey I like Camby as much as the next guy with the noted exception of
Billte. I just don't see the consistency and big time scoring in his
game that it'll take to make 1 st team AA. Maybe 2nd or 3 rd but not
1 st. If Iverson realizes he has teammates and uses them and makes wise
decision then he should make it cause he has the all-around game and
plays for a team that with the necessary prestige to get him the votes.
mike
|
| 14.1526 | Roland wants the 19th repetition of umass-okla st | AKOCOA::BREEN | | Wed Nov 15 1995 18:50 | 10 |
| Having fun Roland? Why don't you go compute some batting averages to 4
places while Mikey and I have a serious baskets discussion
Georgetown has prestige but not exposure - those big network
intersectional games have that. Also, voters, even ap like to think
they're sophisticated so they take what the analysts say and go that
way. Analysts will go with past performance and play of teams.
So if UMass is in top 10, Camby makes first team. Why don't you shoot
for the spot held by Minor.
|
| 14.1527 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Can the Coach... | Wed Nov 15 1995 18:58 | 7 |
|
Interesting to see 3 Big East teams in the top 5. Everyone
who is saying that Marcus Camby won't be a 1st team AA. Is
assuming that he will play like last year. Does anybody think
that Camby will be better this year?
Ron
|
| 14.1528 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Washing Machine | Wed Nov 15 1995 18:59 | 11 |
|
If it hasn't run out the Big East has an every weekend game package with
CBS. You know where Packer is always crying cause the contract isn't
with the ACC. So national coverage isn't a problem cause if there isn't
a marquee matchup in the Big East that week they're going to cover
Georgetown vs. Virgina Tech before they show Pitt vs. BC. I'd love
nothing better than for him to take Minor's spot and leave Camby's
alone.
mike
|
| 14.1529 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Washing Machine | Wed Nov 15 1995 19:03 | 7 |
|
I seem to be the only one saying it Ron. I've stated a couple of reason
why but probably the biggest is that he doesn't have the PG to get him
the ball. Also I think his size hurts him establishing post posistion
necessary for consistent offense. Like I just said I hope I'm wrong.
mike
|
| 14.1530 | but what if he don't produce the night he's on TV ? | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Nov 15 1995 19:25 | 6 |
| > Ha, Camby doesn't belong on AA team ?!! No point arguing since it's
> now show time. Remenber umass gets a lot of intersectional tv exposure
> with that schedule.
This can work for him, and against him (note last year's NCAA game vs.
Okla St.).
|
| 14.1531 | Pass The Potatoes | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Wed Nov 15 1995 20:15 | 6 |
| re: .1529
You make a huge point Mike. Who's going to egt him the ball?
Padilla!!!
Tony
|
| 14.1532 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | Will work for sleep.. | Thu Nov 16 1995 11:42 | 3 |
| >Roland wants the 19th repetition of umass-okla st
Not true. It's already *far* too late for that.
|
| 14.1533 | Camby Should be an All American | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Wed Nov 29 1995 15:48 | 2 |
| Camby certainly played like an All-American last night against
Kentucky.
|
| 14.1534 | Good game | CSLALL::BRULE | country in need of a leader | Tue Jan 02 1996 19:07 | 8 |
| I got a chance while in Vegas to go to the UNLV-Michigan game that UNLV
won in a huge upset. The Thomas & Mack center is great and very easy to
get to. Michigan should have killed UNLV but they must have spent the
previous night on the strip becuz they were flat and UNLV was sky high.
UNLV is small. They are now 2-6. Michigan has talent but they are
young.
Mike
|
| 14.1535 | Entering tonight's game ... | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | NW Wildcats Rose Bowl Bandwagon | Thu Jan 11 1996 22:07 | 463 |
| American West Conference
========================
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 0- 0 8- 6 Sat., vs George Mason
Southern Utah 0- 0 7- 7 Fri., vs Northern Iowa
Cal State-Sacramento 0- 0 4-10 Sat., vs Creighton
Cal State-Northridge 0- 0 3-10 Mon., at Oral Roberts
Atlantic Coast Conference
=========================
Georgia Tech 3- 0 9- 7 Sat., vs Western Carolina
Clemson 2- 0 11- 0 Sun., at North Carolina
Wake Forest 2- 0 9- 1 Sat., vs Maryland
North Carolina 2- 1 11- 3 Sun., vs Clemson
Florida State 1- 1 9- 3 Sat., at North Carolina State
Virginia 1- 2 6- 5 Sat., vs Duke
North Carolina State 0- 2 9- 4 Sat., vs Florida State
Maryland 0- 2 6- 5 Sat., at Wake Forest
Duke 0- 3 9- 5 Sat., at Virginia
Atlantic Ten Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Massachusetts 2- 0 13- 0 Sun., at St.Bonaventure
Temple 2- 0 5- 6 Thu., at Dayton
Rhode Island 1- 0 9- 3 Sun., at Dayton
St.Joseph's 0- 1 4- 5 Sat., vs Arizona
Fordham 0- 1 2- 7 Thu., vs St.Bonaventure
St.Bonaventure 0- 2 4- 6 Thu., at Fordham
Western Division
----------------
George Washington 2- 0 8- 2 Sat., at Missouri
Virginia Tech 1- 0 8- 1 Sat., vs LaSalle
Xavier (Ohio) 1- 1 5- 6 Sat., vs Fordham
Dayton 0- 1 8- 4 Thu., vs Temple
LaSalle 0- 1 3- 9 Sat., at Virginia Tech
Duquesne 0- 2 5- 6 Sat., at Temple
Big East Conference
===================
Big East Seven
--------------
Georgetown 3- 1 13- 2 Sat., vs Miami (Florida)
Syracuse 3- 1 12- 2 Sun., vs Rutgers
Pittsburgh 2- 1 7- 3 Sat., vs Notre Dame
Seton Hall 3- 2 7- 5 Sun., vs Boston College
Miami (Florida) 2- 3 8- 5 Sat., at Georgetown
Rutgers 1- 2 4- 7 Sun., at Syracuse
Providence 1- 4 8- 5 Sat., vs Connecticut
Big East Six
------------
Connecticut 5- 0 13- 1 Sat., at Providence
Villanova 4- 1 12- 2 Sat., at West Virginia
Boston College 3- 2 10- 3 Sun., at Seton Hall
St.John's 1- 3 6- 5 Sat., vs Louisville
Notre Dame 0- 4 5- 6 Sat., at Pittsburgh
West Virginia 0- 4 5- 6 Sat., vs Villanova
Big Eight Conference
====================
Kansas 1- 0 11- 1 Thu., at Florida
Nebraska 1- 0 12- 3 Sat., at Oklahoma
Missouri 1- 0 10- 4 Sat., vs George Washington
Oklahoma 1- 0 9- 4 Sat., vs Nebraska
Kansas State 1- 1 10- 4 Sat., at Colorado
Oklahoma State 0- 1 9- 3 Sat., at Iowa State
Iowa State 0- 1 10- 4 Sat., vs Oklahoma State
Colorado 0- 2 5- 7 Sat., vs Kansas State
Big Sky Conference
==================
Montana 0- 0 9- 3 Thu., vs Northern Arizona
Weber State 0- 0 8- 5 Fri., at Montana State
Montana State 0- 0 7- 5 Fri., vs Weber State
Idaho 0- 0 5- 5 Fri., at Idaho State
Boise State 0- 0 4- 8 Fri., vs Eastern Washington
Idaho State 0- 0 3- 7 Fri., vs Idaho
Northern Arizona 0- 0 3- 8 Thu., at Montana
Eastern Washington 0- 0 2- 8 Fri., at Boise State
Big South Conference
====================
Liberty 1- 0 7- 4 Sat., vs North Carolina-Asheville
Charleston Southern 1- 0 6- 7 Sat., at Maryland-Baltimore County
Winthrop 1- 0 2-10 Sat., at Radford
North Carolina-Greensboro 0- 0 6- 4 Sat., vs Coastal Carolina
Radford 0- 0 7- 5 Sat., vs Winthrop
North Carolina-Asheville 1- 1 7- 5 Sat., at Liberty
Coastal Carolina 0- 1 4- 7 Sat., at North Carolina-Greensboro
Maryland-Baltimore County 0- 2 1-11 Sat., vs Charleston Southern
Big Ten Conference
==================
Penn State 2- 0 11- 0 Thu., vs Minnesota
Purdue 2- 0 12- 2 Sat., at Minnesota
Michigan State 2- 0 8- 6 Sat., vs Michigan
Iowa 2- 1 13- 2 Sat., at Wisconsin
Michigan 2- 1 12- 4 Sat., at Michigan State
Indiana 2- 1 9- 6 Sat., at Illinois
Minnesota 1- 1 9- 5 Thu., at Penn State
Wisconsin 1- 2 9- 6 Sat., vs Iowa
Northwestern 0- 2 5- 6 Sat., vs Penn State
Illinois 0- 3 11- 4 Sat., vs Illinois
Ohio State 0- 3 7- 5 Wed., vs Northwestern
Big West Conference
===================
Long Beach State 2- 0 7- 4 Sat., at Nevada-Las Vegas
San Jose State 3- 1 4- 8 Sat., at Nevada
Cal-Irvine 2- 1 5- 5 Sat., at Cal State-Fullerton
Cal-Santa Barbara 2- 1 5- 6 Sat., at New Mexico State
Utah State 1- 1 7- 6 Thu., vs Southern Illinois
Pacific 2- 2 6- 6 Sat., at Utah State
Nevada-Las Vegas 1- 2 4- 7 Sat., vs Long Beach State
New Mexico State 1- 2 4- 7 Sat., vs Cal-Santa Barbara
Cal State-Fullerton 1- 3 2-10 Sat., vs Cal-Irvine
Nevada 0- 2 7- 5 Sat., vs San Jose State
Colonial Athletic Association
=============================
Virginia Commonwealth 3- 0 10- 6 Sat., at East Carolina
William and Mary 2- 1 4- 6 Sat., vs American
North Carolina-Wilmington 2- 1 4- 9 Sat., vs James Madison
East Carolina 1- 1 8- 3 Sat., vs Virginia Commonwealth
American 1- 1 5- 6 Sat., at William and Mary
Old Dominion 1- 1 6- 8 Sat., at Richmond
George Mason 1- 2 5- 7 Sat., at Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo
James Madison 0- 2 4- 9 Sat., at North Carolina-Wilmington
Richmond 0- 2 3- 8 Sat., vs Old oOminion
Conference USA
==============
Blue Division
-------------
Cincinnati 1- 0 9- 0 Thu., at Southern Mississippi
Marquette 1- 0 9- 2 Sat., at Cincinnati
DePaul 0- 1 7- 5 Thu., at Memphis
St.Louis 0- 2 8- 4 Sat., at Alabama-Birmingham
Red Division
------------
Southern Mississippi 1- 0 6- 5 Thu., vs Cincinnati
Alabama-Birmingham 1- 1 11- 5 Sat., vs St.Louis
South Florida 0- 1 7- 4 Thu., at Tulane
Tulane 0- 1 6- 4 Thu., vs South Florida
White Division
--------------
Memphis 1- 0 9- 2 Thu., vs DePaul
Louisville 2- 1 10- 5 Sat., at St.John's
North Carolina-Charlotte 1- 1 7- 5 Sun., vs Tulane
Ivy League
==========
Pennsylvania 1- 0 2- 5 Fri., vs Brown
Brown 0- 0 5- 6 Fri., at Pennsylvania
Yale 0- 0 4- 6 Fri., at Princeton
Columbia 0- 0 4- 8 Fri., at Dartmouth
Cornell 0- 0 3- 6 Fri., at Harvard
Harvard 1- 1 8- 5 Fri., vs Cornell
Dartmouth 1- 1 6- 5 Fri., vs Columbia
Princeton 0- 1 7- 5 Fri., vs Yale
Metro Atlantic Athletic Association
===================================
Canisius 1- 0 9- 3 Sat., at Niagara
Niagara 1- 0 6- 6 Sat., vs Canisius
Iona 0- 0 7- 2 Thu., at Hampton
Manhattan 0- 0 6- 5 Sat., vs St.Peter's
Siena 0- 0 4- 7 Thu., vs Loyola (Maryland)
Loyola (Maryland) 0- 0 3- 7 Thu., at Siena
St.Peter's 0- 1 9- 2 Sat., at Manhattan
Fairfield 0- 1 7- 4 Thu., vs Colgate
Mid-American Conference
=======================
Eastern Michigan 3- 0 10- 1 Sat., at Central Michigan
Toledo 2- 1 9- 5 Sat., vs Kent
Bowling Green State 2- 1 7- 4 Sat., vs Ohio
Ball State 2- 1 6- 5 Sat., at Western Michigan
Western Michigan 2- 1 4- 7 Sat., vs Ball State
Miami (Ohio) 1- 2 9- 2 Sat., at Akron
Kent 1- 2 7- 4 Sat., at Toledo
Ohio 1- 2 6- 8 Sat., at Bowling Green State
Central Michigan 1- 2 4- 7 Sat., vs Eastern Michigan
Akron 0- 3 3- 8 Sat., vs Miami (Ohio)
Mid-Continent Conference
========================
Valparaiso 3- 0 8- 5 Sat., at Central Connecticut State
Western Illinois 3- 1 6- 5 Sat., at Missouri-Kansas City
Buffalo 2- 1 5- 4 Sat., vs Chicago State
Northeastern Illinois 2- 1 6- 6 Sat., at Youngstown State
Central Connecticut State 2- 2 5- 6 Sat., vs Valparaiso
Eastern Illinois 1- 1 3- 6 Sat., at Troy State
Youngstown State 1- 2 6- 5 Sat., vs Northeastern Illinois
Troy State 1- 3 4- 8 Sat., vs Eastern Illinois
Missouri-Kansas City 1- 3 3- 6 Sat., vs Western Illinois
Chicago State 1- 3 1-11 Sat., at Buffalo
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
===============================
Maryland-Eastern Shore 3- 0 7- 5 Thu., at Coppin State
South Carolina State 2- 0 6- 4 Sat., vs Bethune-Cookman
Coppin State 1- 0 4- 7 Thu., vs Maryland-Eastern Shore
Delaware State 2- 1 3- 8 Sat., vs Coppin State
North Carolina A&T 0- 1 2- 7 Sat., vs Florida A&M
Morgan State 0- 1 1-11 Mon., vs Maryland-Eastern Shore
Howard 0- 1 0-10 Sat., at Maryland-Eastern Shore
Florida A&M 0- 2 5- 7 Sat., at North Carolina A&T
Bethune-Cookman 0- 2 4- 6 Sat., at South Carolina State
Hampton 0- 0 4-10 Thu., vs Iona
Midwestern Collegiate Conference
================================
Wisconsin-Green Bay 2- 0 10- 2 Thu., at Loyola (Illinois)
Butler 2- 0 9- 3 Thu., at Wright State
Northern Illinois 2- 0 9- 3 Thu., vs Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Detroit Mercy 1- 1 9- 3 Sat., vs Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Illinois-Chicago 1- 1 5- 6 Thu., at Cleveland State
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 1- 1 4- 7 Thu., at Northern Illinois
Wright State 0- 2 6- 6 Thu., vs Butler
Loyola (Illinois) 0- 2 3- 8 Thu., vs Wisconsin-Green Bay
Cleveland State 0- 2 1- 9 Thu., vs Illinois-Chicago
Missouri Valley Conference
==========================
Bradley 3- 0 8- 3 Sat., vs Southwest Missouri State
Southwest Missouri State 3- 0 7- 4 Thu., at Illinois State
Drake 2- 0 6- 4 Thu., at Tulsa
Tulsa 1- 0 8- 1 Thu., vs Drake
Southern Illinois 1- 1 7- 5 Thu., at Utah State
Illinois State 1- 1 7- 5 Thu., vs Southwest Missouri State
Creighton 2- 3 6- 7 Sat., at Cal State-Sacramento
Northern Iowa 1- 2 7- 3 Fri., at Southern Utah
Evansville 1- 2 5- 5 Sat., at Indiana State
Wichita State 1- 4 5-10 Sat., vs Drake
Indiana State 0- 3 4- 7 Sat., vs Evansville
North Atlantic Conference
=========================
Maine 5- 0 7- 4 Thu., at Towson State
Drexel 3- 0 7- 2 Thu., vs New Hampshire
Boston University 3- 1 6- 6 Thu., at Delaware
Delaware 1- 1 5- 5 Thu., vs Boston University
Towson State 1- 1 5- 5 Thu., vs Northeastern
Vermont 2- 3 3- 9 Sun., vs Hartford
New Hampshire 2- 3 2- 9 Thu., at Drexel
Hartford 2- 3 2-10 Sun., at Vermont
Hofstra 0- 3 3- 6 Thu., vs Maine
Northeastern 0- 4 1-10 Thu., at Towson State
Northeast Conference
====================
Marist 2- 0 8- 1 Thu., at Long Island-Brooklyn
Monmouth 2- 0 5- 5 Thu., at St.Francis (Pennsylvania)
Mount St.Mary's 1- 0 5- 4 Thu., at Rider
Wagner 1- 0 4- 5 Thu., at Robert Morris
St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 1- 1 3- 6 Thu., vs Monmouth
Fairleigh Dickinson 1- 1 2- 8 Thu., at St.Francis (New York)
Rider 0- 1 5- 5 Thu., vs Mount St.Mary's
Long Island-Brooklyn 0- 1 3- 6 Thu., vs Marist
St.Francis (New York) 0- 2 6- 4 Thu., vs Fairleigh Dickinson
Robert Morris 0- 2 2- 8 Thu., vs Wagner
Ohio Valley Conference
======================
Middle Tennessee State 1- 0 6- 4 Thu., at Tennessee Tech
Tennessee State 1- 0 3- 8 Thu., vs Austin Peay State
Eastern Kentucky 2- 1 8- 5 Sat., at Murray State
Tennessee Tech 1- 1 6- 4 Thu., vs Middle Tennessee State
Tennessee-Martin 1- 1 5- 6 Thu., at Southeast Missouri State
Southeast Missouri State 1- 1 4- 7 Thu., vs Tennessee-Martin
Morehead State 1- 2 6- 7 Sat., at Tennessee-Martin
Murray State 0- 1 7- 4 Sat., vs Eastern Kentucky
Austin Peay State 0- 1 5- 5 Thu., at Tennessee State
Pacific Ten Conference
======================
Stanford 2- 0 8- 2 Thu., at UCLA
UCLA 2- 0 9- 3 Thu., vs Stanford
California 2- 0 7- 3 Thu., at Southern California
Oregon 1- 0 8- 4 Thu., vs Washington State
Washington 1- 1 8- 3 Thu., at Oregon State
Southern California 1- 1 8- 5 Thu., vs California
Arizona 1- 2 11- 3 Sat., at St.Joseph's (Pennsylvania)
Oregon State 0- 1 2- 8 Thu., vs Washington
Washington State 0- 2 7- 3 Thu., at Oregon
Arizona State 0- 3 5- 6 J.18, vs UCLA
Patriot League
==============
Navy 1- 0 6- 6 Sat., at Lafayette
Holy Cross 1- 0 4- 8 Sat., at Colgate
Lehigh 1- 0 3- 9 Mon., at Maryland-Baltimore County
Colgate 0- 0 3- 9 Thu., at Fairfield
Bucknell 0- 1 7- 6 Sat., at Army
Army 0- 1 3- 8 Sat., vs Bucknell
Lafayette 0- 1 3- 9 Sat., vs Navy
Southeastern Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Kentucky 3- 0 12- 1 Sat., vs Tennessee
South Carolina 2- 1 8- 3 Sat., at Florida
Georgia 1- 1 10- 2 Sat., at Auburn
Vanderbilt 1- 2 10- 5 Sat., at Arkansas
Tennessee 1- 2 7- 5 Sat., at Kentucky
Florida 0- 2 5- 6 Thu., vs Kansas
Western Division
----------------
Mississippi State 2- 1 10- 2 Sat., vs Alabama
Alabama 2- 1 8- 3 Sat., at Mississippi State
Arkansas 2- 1 9- 4 Sat., vs Vanderbilt
Louisiana State 2- 1 9- 5 Tue., at Kentucky
Auburn 1- 2 13- 3 Sat., vs Georgia
Mississippi 0- 3 5- 7 Wed., at Mississippi State
Southern Conference
===================
Northern Division
-----------------
Marshall 1- 0 6- 4 Sat., at Appalachian State
Davidson 0- 0 8- 4 Sat., vs East Tennessee State
Virginia Military 0- 0 6- 3 Mon., at Marshall
East Tennessee State 0- 0 3- 6 Sat., at Davidson
Appalachian State 0- 0 4- 8 Sat., vs Marshall
Southern Division
-----------------
The Citadel 0- 0 5- 5 Sat., vs Tennessee-Chattanooga
Furman 0- 0 4- 8 Sat., vs Georgia Southern
Western Carolina 0- 0 3- 7 Sat., at Georgia Tech
Georgia Southern 0- 0 1-10 Sat., at Furman
Tennessee-Chattanooga 0- 1 6- 4 Sat., at The Citadel
Southland Conference
====================
Stephen F. Austin 2- 0 7- 3 Thu., at Texas-Arlington
McNeese State 2- 0 6- 3 Thu., at Texas-San Antonio
Sam Houston State 2- 0 4- 6 Thu., at North Texas
Texas-Arlington 1- 0 5- 4 Thu., vs Stephen F. Austin
Northeast Louisiana 1- 1 2- 9 Sat., vs Northwestern State
Nicholls State 1- 1 1- 8 Thu., at Southwest Texas State
North Texas 0- 1 1- 7 Thu., vs Sam Houston State
Southwest Texas State 0- 2 4- 6 Thu., vs Nicholls State
Northwestern State 0- 2 2- 8 Sat., at Northeast Louisiana
Texas-San Antonio 0- 2 2- 8 Thu., vs McNeese State
Southwest Conference
====================
Texas Tech 1- 0 11- 1 Sat., vs Texas A&M
Rice 1- 0 8- 4 Sat., vs Houston
Houston 1- 0 6- 6 Sat., at Rice
Baylor 1- 0 6- 7 Sat., at Southern Methodist
Texas 0- 1 7- 4 Sat., vs Texas Christian
Texas A&M 0- 1 8- 5 Sat., at Texas Tech
Texas Christian 0- 1 9- 6 Sat., at Texas
Southern Methodist 0- 1 4- 8 Sat., vs Baylor
Southwestern Athletic Conference
================================
Mississippi Valley State 2- 0 11- 3 Sat., at Prairie View A&M
Alabama State 2- 0 3- 8 Sat., at Southern
Southern 1- 1 6- 4 Sat., vs Alabama State
Grambling State 1- 1 6- 7 Sat., at Texas Southern
Texas Southern 1- 1 6- 8 Sat., vs Grambling State
Jackson State 1- 1 5-10 Sat., at Alcorn State
Alcorn State 0- 2 3- 9 Sat., vs Jackson State
Prairie View A&M 0- 2 3-11 Sat., vs Mississippi Valley State
Sun Belt Conference
===================
Arkansas-Little Rock 3- 0 9- 1 Thu., at New Orleans
Jacksonville 3- 0 7- 4 Thu., at Western Kentucky
South Alabama 2- 1 7- 4 Thu., at Lamar
Lamar 2- 1 6- 4 Thu., vs South Alabama
Arkansas State 2- 1 4- 7 Thu., at Southwestern Louisiana
Southwestern Louisiana 1- 2 7- 4 Thu., vs Arkansas State
New Orleans 1- 2 5- 5 Thu., vs Arkansas-Little Rock
Western Kentucky 1- 2 4- 7 Thu., vs Jacksonville
Louisiana Tech 0- 3 4- 7 Thu., vs Texas-Pan American
Texas-Pan American 0- 3 2- 9 Thu., at Louisiana Tech
Trans America Athletic Conference
=================================
College of Charleston 2- 0 8- 2 Thu., at Jacksonville State
Samford 2- 0 7- 4 Thu., vs Campbell
Campbell 2- 0 5- 5 Thu., at Samford
Southeastern Louisiana 2- 0 6- 6 Thu., at Stetson
Centenary 2- 0 5- 6 Thu., at Central Florida
Jacksonville State 1- 1 6- 5 Thu., vs College of Charleston
Central Florida 1- 1 3- 8 Thu., vs Centenary
Florida International 0- 2 6- 6 Thu., at Georgia State
Mercer 0- 2 6- 6 Thu., vs Florida Atlantic
Florida Atlantic 0- 2 4- 7 Thu., at Mercer
Georgia State 0- 2 4- 8 Thu., vs Florida International
Stetson 0- 2 4- 8 Thu., vs Southeastern Louisiana
West Coast Conference
=====================
San Diego 1- 0 6- 5 Thu., vs Pepperdine
Loyola Marymount 0- 0 9- 3 Thu., at San Fransisco
Portland 0- 0 9- 3 Fri., at St.Mary's
Santa Clara 0- 0 9- 3 Fri., vs Gonzaga
Gonzaga 0- 0 8- 3 Fri., at Santa Clara
Pepperdine 0- 0 7- 5 Thu., at San Diego
St.Mary's 0- 0 6- 5 Fri., vs Portland
San Fransisco 0- 1 7- 7 Thu., vs Loyola Marymount
Western Athletic Conference
===========================
New Mexico 3- 0 13- 1 Sat., at Wyoming
San Diego State 3- 1 7- 4 Sat., vs BrighamYoung
Utah 2- 1 10- 3 Sat., at Hawaii
Brigham Young 2- 1 8- 4 Sat., at San Diego State
Colorado State 2- 1 8- 4 Sat., vs Texas-El Paso
Texas-El Paso 1- 1 10- 2 Sat., at Colorado State
Fresno State 1- 2 8- 6 Mon., at Air Force
Hawaii 1- 3 4- 8 Sat., vs Utah
Air Force 0- 2 4- 8 Mon., vs Fresno State
Wyoming 0- 3 6- 7 Sat., vs New Mexico
Independents
============
Oral Roberts 5- 6 Mon., vs Cal State-Northridge
Wofford 0- 9 Mon., vs College of Charleston
|
| 14.1536 | | CSC32::MACGREGOR | Colorado: the TRUE mid-west | Thu Jan 11 1996 22:17 | 8 |
|
Northeastern 0- 4 1-10 Thu., at Towson State
Hmm, lose Calhoun and Reggie Lewis and instead of leading the league,
they get confused and think this is hearts.
Marc
|
| 14.1537 | Finally - something useful in ::SPROTS!!! | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | The truth - Syracuse s*cks! | Fri Jan 12 1996 14:52 | 4 |
| That was great seeing those conference listings! It would be greatly
appreciated if you could do that every week! Thanks a lot!
NAZZ
|
| 14.1538 | bah | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Tue Jan 16 1996 16:35 | 12 |
| in the not so useful department ...
If'n anyone else needs any further evidence that Jeff Sagarin and his
system has no basis in reality, his ratings for the conference show the
ACC as the top rated conference, ahead of the Big East and the Big 10.
Sorry, but this is a down year for the ACC and there's no way they're the
bestest in the land. You can argue who is but it aint the ACC.
Even ACK would admit it, although he'd have a_ulterior motive...
TTom
|
| 14.1540 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | I've always been a closet Steeler fan - even though they suck! | Wed Jan 17 1996 19:45 | 3 |
| 14.1541 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donnie Baseball Yankee HOFer!!! | Thu Jan 18 1996 12:12 | 9 |
|
Va Tech, Temple,
Should be there only Challenge especially with Bias out. I mean
Camby out. Woops sorry Nazz.
Chap
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| 14.1542 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Jan 18 1996 12:18 | 7 |
| Chappy,
The fish get suspicious if there's too much bait on the hook.
HTH :-)
-Roland
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| 14.1543 | | GRANPA::DFAUST | Bad Things, man... | Thu Jan 18 1996 12:32 | 25 |
| I didn't see any discussion on the St. Joe/Arizona non-game on
Saturday.
For those who don't know, St. Joes and Arizona had a contract to play a
nationally televised (ESPN2) game last Saturday at a location (the
Palestra) and date that was picked by Arizona. A week ago tonight,
without discussing it with the St. Joe coach or Athletic Director, and
based on some weather projection, Arizona cancelled the game. They also
sent out a press release on Thursday evening that said the cancellation
was a joint decision between St. Joe's and Arizona. The newspapers in
Arizona (I'm told) carried the story in Friday's newspapers.
We in the Philadelphia area heard about the cancellation on Friday
afternoon. The St. Joe's AD offered to move the game to Sunday, after
talking to ESPN and Palestra officials, but Arizona said it was too
dangerous to travel to the east. The kicker is that the flight on which
the Arizona team was scheduled to travel arrived in Philadelphia 15
minutes late on Friday afternoon. At game time on Saturday, it was
over 40 degrees and bright sunshine. I think whatever weather problems
existed got alot worse when Lute and his boys saw St. Joe's take UMASS
to OT on Wednesday night.
Lute Olson was quoted as saying that the game with St. Joe's was
"insignificant" and that "cancelling the game was no big deal".
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| 14.1544 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Thu Jan 18 1996 13:23 | 2 |
| 14.1545 | I'll try post this on Fridays only, from now on | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | NCAA Baseball Tonight: WSU at UH | Fri Jan 19 1996 14:07 | 468 |
| American West Conference Conf W- L RPI Games This Weekend
======================== ==== ==== === ==================
Southern Utah 0- 0 9- 7 230 Sat. at Oral Roberts
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 0- 0 8- 8 219 Sat. at Cal State-Sacramento
Cal State-Northridge 0- 0 4-12 261 none
Cal State-Sacramento 0- 0 4-12 239 Sat. vs Cal Poly-SLO
Atlantic Coast Conference
=========================
Wake Forest 4- 0 12- 1 10 Sun. at Clemson
North Carolina 4- 1 13- 3 7 Sat. at Villanova
Georgia Tech 3- 1 10- 8 14 Sat. vs Virginia
Clemson 2- 2 11- 2 18 Sun. vs Wake Forest
Florida State 2- 2 10- 4 52 Sat. at Duke
Virginia 2- 3 7- 6 47 Sat. at Georgia Tech
North Carolina State 1- 3 11- 5 60 Sat. at Maryland
Duke 1- 4 10- 6 36 Sat. vs Florida State
Maryland 0- 3 7- 6 35 Sat. vs North Carolina State
Atlantic Ten Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Temple 5- 0 8- 6 19 Sat. at Tulane
Massachusetts 4- 0 15- 0 1 Sat. at Duquesne
Rhode Island 1- 2 9- 5 65 Sat. at Fordham
St.Bonaventure 1- 3 5- 8 117 Sat. vs Xavier (Ohio)
St.Joseph's 0- 1 5- 5 132 Sat. vs LaSalle
Fordham 0- 4 2-10 258 Sat. vs Rhode Island
Western Division
----------------
Virginia Tech 4- 0 11- 1 25 none
George Washington 2- 1 8- 4 115 Sun. vs Dayton
Xavier (Ohio) 2- 1 6- 7 209 Sat. at St.Bonaventure
LaSalle 1- 2 4-10 170 Sat. at St.Joseph's
Dayton 1- 3 9- 6 121 Sat. at George Washington
Duquesne 0- 4 5- 8 158 Sat. vs Massachusetts
Big East Conference
===================
Big East Seven
--------------
Georgetown 5- 1 15- 2 46 Sat. at Seton Hall
Syracuse 4- 2 13- 3 4 Sun. at Connecticut
Pittsburgh 3- 2 8- 4 34 Sat. at Miami (Florida)
Seton Hall 4- 3 8- 6 51 Sat. vs Georgetown
Miami (Florida) 2- 4 8- 6 59 Sat. vs Pittsburgh
Rutgers 1- 3 4- 8 109 Sat. at Notre Dame
Providence 1- 5 8- 6 50 Sat. vs West Virginia
Big East Six
------------
Connecticut 7- 0 15- 1 5 Sun. vs Syracuse
Villanova 5- 2 13- 3 3 Sat. vs North Carolina
Boston College 4- 2 11- 3 23 Sat. vs St.John's
St.John's 1- 4 7- 6 71 Sat. at Boston College
West Virginia 1- 5 6- 8 127 Sat. at Providence
Notre Dame 0- 5 5- 7 83 Sat. vs Notre Dame
Big Eight Conference
====================
Missouri 2- 0 12- 4 128 Sun. at Iowa State
Kansas 1- 0 13- 1 12 Sat. at Colorado
Kansas State 2- 1 11- 4 64 Sat. at Oklahoma
Oklahoma 2- 1 10- 5 78 Sat. vs Kansas State
Nebraska 1- 1 13- 4 40 Sat. at Oklahoma State
Iowa State 1- 1 11- 4 45 Sun. vs Missouri
Oklahoma State 0- 2 10- 4 41 Sat. vs Nebraska
Colorado 0- 3 5- 9 168 Sat. vs Kansas
Big Sky Conference
==================
Idaho State 3- 0 6- 7 299 Sat. at Weber State
Montana 2- 0 11- 3 84 Sat. at Montana State
Montana State 2- 0 9- 5 108 Sat. vs Montana
Boise State 2- 1 6- 9 195 Sat. at Northern Arizona
Weber State 1- 2 9- 7 95 Sat. vs Idaho State
Idaho 0- 2 6- 7 206 Fri. at Eastern Washington
Eastern Washington 0- 2 2-10 286 Fri. vs Idaho
Northern Arizona 0- 3 3-11 279 Sat. vs Boise State
Big South Conference
====================
Charleston Southern 3- 0 8- 7 182 Sat. vs Liberty
North Carolina-Greensboro 2- 0 8- 4 180 Sat. at Winthrop
Winthrop 3- 1 4-11 280 Sat. vs UNC-Greensboro
Radford 2- 1 8- 7 204 Sat. at Coastal Carolina
North Carolina-Asheville 2- 2 8- 6 124 Sat. vs UM-Baltimore County
Liberty 1- 2 7- 6 161 Sat. at Charleston Southern
Coastal Carolina 0- 3 4- 9 265 Sat. vs Radford
Maryland-Baltimore County 0- 4 2-13 301 Sat. at UNC-Asheville
Big Ten Conference
==================
Penn State 4- 0 13- 0 11 Sun. at Michigan
Purdue 4- 0 14- 2 8 Sat. vs Illinois
Michigan 3- 1 13- 4 24 Sun. vs Penn State
Iowa 3- 2 14- 3 15 Sat. at Michigan State
Wisconsin 3- 2 11- 6 39 Sat. at Northwestern
Indiana 3- 2 10- 7 37 none
Michigan State 2- 2 8- 8 58 Sat. vs Iowa
Ohio State 1- 3 8- 5 89 Sat. vs Minnesota
Minnesota 1- 3 9- 7 30 Sat. at Ohio State
Northwestern 0- 4 5- 8 176 Sat. vs Wisconsin
Illinois 0- 5 11- 6 22 Sat. at Purdue
Big West Conference
===================
Long Beach State 3- 1 8- 5 77 Sat. vs Nevada
Nevada 3- 2 10- 5 110 Sat. at Long Beach State
Utah State 3- 2 9- 8 188 Sat. at Cal-Santa Barbara
Cal-Irvine 3- 2 6- 6 185 Sat. vs Nevada-Las Vegas
Cal-Santa Barbara 3- 3 6- 8 199 Sat. vs Utah State
Nevada-Las Vegas 3- 3 6- 8 208 Sat. at Cal-Irvine
San Jose State 3- 3 4-10 212 Sat. at Pacific
Cal State-Fullerton 3- 3 4-10 235 Sat. vs New Mexico State
Pacific 2- 4 6- 8 174 Sat. vs San Jose State
New Mexico State 1- 4 4- 9 145 Sat. at Cal State-Fullerton
Colonial Athletic Association
=============================
Virginia Commonwealth 4- 1 11- 7 106 Sat. vs Richmond
North Carolina-Wilmington 4- 1 6- 9 148 Sat. vs William & Mary
American 3- 1 7- 6 240 none
Old Dominion 3- 1 8- 8 203 Sat. at East Carolina
East Carolina 2- 2 9- 4 155 Sat. vs Old Dominion
William and Mary 2- 2 6- 7 262 Sat. at UNC-Wilmington
George Mason 1- 3 6- 8 250 Sat. at James Madison
Richmond 0- 4 4-10 215 Sat. at Va. Commonwealth
James Madison 0- 4 4-11 177 Sat. vs George Mason
Conference USA
==============
Blue Division
-------------
Cincinnati 3- 0 12- 0 6 Sun. at Alabama-Birmingham
Marquette 2- 1 11- 3 61 Sat. vs Memphis
St.Louis 1- 3 9- 5 96 Sat. vs DePaul
DePaul 0- 4 7- 8 74 Sat. at St.Louis
Red Division
------------
Southern Mississippi 2- 1 8- 6 123 Sun. at Louisville
Alabama-Birmingham 2- 2 12- 6 62 Sun. vs Cincinnati
Tulane 1- 2 8- 5 73 Sat. vs Temple
South Florida 0- 4 7- 7 122 Sat. at UNC-Charlotte
White Division
--------------
Memphis 3- 0 12- 2 29 Sat. at Marquette
Louisville 3- 1 11- 6 27 Sun. vs Southern Mississippi
North Carolina-Charlotte 2- 1 8- 6 42 Sat. vs South Florida
Ivy League
==========
Pennsylvania 3- 0 4- 6 135 none
Harvard 3- 1 10- 5 228 none
Dartmouth 3- 1 8- 6 142 Sat. at Lafayette
Princeton 2- 1 9- 5 167 none
Brown 0- 2 5- 9 140 Sat. at Yale
Cornell 0- 2 4- 8 251 Sat. at Columbia
Yale 0- 2 4- 8 292 Sat. vs Brown
Columbia 0- 2 4-10 256 Sat. vs Cornell
Metro Atlantic Athletic Association
===================================
Niagara 2- 0 7- 6 221 Fri. at Siena, Sun at Loy MD
Iona 1- 0 9- 2 72 Sun. vs Canisius
Siena 1- 0 5- 7 216 Fri. vs Niag, Sun. vs Frfld
Canisius 1- 1 10- 4 93 Fri. at St Pet, Sun. at Iona
Fairfield 1- 1 9- 4 116 Sun. at Siena
Manhattan 1- 2 7- 7 133 Sat. at Hampton
Loyola (Maryland) 1- 2 4- 9 281 Sun. vs Niagara
St.Peter's 0- 2 9- 4 118 Fri. vs Canisius
Mid-American Conference
=======================
Eastern Michigan 5- 0 12- 1 20 Sat. vs Ball State
Miami (Ohio) 3- 2 11- 2 81 Sat. at Central Michigan
Toledo 3- 2 10- 6 101 Sat. at Bowling Green
Bowling Green State 3- 2 8- 5 90 Sat. vs Toledo
Ball State 3- 2 7- 6 153 Sat. at Eastern Michigan
Western Michigan 3- 2 5- 8 139 Sat. vs Kent
Kent 2- 3 8- 5 136 Sat. at Western Michigan
Ohio 2- 3 7- 9 159 Sat. at Akron
Central Michigan 1- 4 4- 9 222 Sat. vs Miami (Ohio)
Akron 0- 5 3-10 232 Sat. vs Ohio
Mid-Continent Conference
========================
Valparaiso 4- 1 9- 6 130 Sat. vs Buffalo
Buffalo 4- 1 7- 5 126 Sat. at Valparaiso
Northeastern Illinois 3- 2 7- 7 227 Sat. vs Western Illinois
Western Illinois 3- 2 6- 6 162 Sat. at NE Illinois
Central Connecticut State 3- 3 6- 7 278 Sat. vs Troy State
Troy State 3- 3 6- 9 302 Sat. at Central Connecticut
Youngstown State 2- 3 7- 6 259 Sat. at Eastern Illinois
Missouri-Kansas City 2- 3 4- 7 226 Sat. at Chicago State
Eastern Illinois 1- 3 3- 8 241 Sat. vs Youngstown State
Chicago State 1- 5 1-13 285 Sat. vs Missouri-Kansas City
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
===============================
South Carolina State 4- 0 8- 4 246 Sat. vs UM-Eastern Shore
Coppin State 4- 0 7- 7 187 none
North Carolina A&T 2- 1 4- 8 247 Sat. vs Delaware State
Maryland-Eastern Shore 4- 2 9- 7 189 Sat. at South Carolina State
Delaware State 3- 2 4-10 289 Sat. at North Carolina A&T
Morgan State 1- 1 2-11 233 Sat. at Florida A&M
Florida A&M 1- 4 6- 9 266 Sat. vs Morgan State
Howard 0- 4 0-13 295 Sat. at Bethune-Cookman
Bethune-Cookman 0- 5 3-10 297 Sat. vs Howard
Hampton 0- 0 4-12 275 Sat. vs Manhattan
Midwestern Collegiate Conference
================================
Wisconsin-Green Bay 6- 0 14- 2 70 Sat. vs Illinois-Chicago
Butler 4- 1 11- 4 103 Sat. at Northern Illinois
Northern Illinois 4- 1 11- 4 141 Sat. vs Butler
Detroit Mercy 2- 2 10- 4 56 Sat. at Cleveland State
Illinois-Chicago 2- 2 6- 8 178 Sat. at Wisconsin-Green Bay
Cleveland State 2- 3 3-10 257 Sat. vs Detroit Mercy
Wright State 1- 4 7- 8 105 Sat. at Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 1- 4 4-10 220 Sat. vs Wright State
Loyola (Illinois) 0- 5 3-11 224 none
Missouri Valley Conference
==========================
Bradley 4- 1 9- 4 21 Sat. at Illinois State
Illinois State 4- 1 10- 5 129 Sat. vs Bradley
Drake 4- 1 8- 5 98 Sun. at Northern Iowa
Evansville 4- 2 8- 5 198 Sat. at Vanderbilt
Southwest Missouri State 4- 2 8- 6 134 Sat. vs Tulsa
Tulsa 2- 2 9- 3 48 Sat. at SW Missouri State
Creighton 3- 3 8- 7 184 Sat. vs Indiana State
Southern Illinois 1- 2 8- 6 87 Sat. vs Wichita State
Northern Iowa 1- 3 7- 5 75 Sun. vs Drake
Wichita State 1- 6 5-12 211 Sat. at Southern Illinois
Indiana State 0- 5 4- 9 273 Sat. at Creighton
[Standings do not include SIU at Drake from Thursday night]
North Atlantic Conference
=========================
Drexel 7- 0 11- 2 137 Sat. at Boston University
Towson State 4- 1 8- 5 196 Sat. at Hartford
Maine 5- 2 7- 6 171 Fri. vs New Hampshire
Boston University 4- 3 7- 8 218 Sat. vs Drexel
Delaware 3- 3 7- 7 146 Sat. at Vermont
Hofstra 3- 4 6- 7 272 Sat. at Northeastern
Vermont 3- 4 4-10 252 Sat. vs Delaware
Hartford 3- 4 3-11 269 Sat. vs Towson State
New Hampshire 2- 5 3-11 284 Fri. at Maine
Northeastern 0- 8 1-14 283 Sat. vs Hofstra
Northeast Conference
====================
Marist 5- 0 11- 1 138 Sat. vs St.Francis (N.Y.)
Monmouth 5- 0 8- 5 157 Sat. at LIU-Brooklyn
St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 3- 2 5- 7 205 Sat. at Rider
Fairleigh Dickinson 3- 2 4- 9 243 Sat. at Wagner
Mount St.Mary's 2- 2 6- 6 111 Sat. vs Robert Morris
Wagner 2- 2 5- 7 223 Sat. vs Fairleigh Dickinson
Rider 1- 3 6- 7 131 Sat. vs St.Francis (Pa.)
Long Island-Brooklyn 1- 3 4- 8 225 Sat. vs Monmouth
St.Francis (New York) 1- 4 7- 6 254 Sat. at Marist
Robert Morris 0- 5 2-11 304 Sat. at Mount St.Mary's
Ohio Valley Conference
======================
Murray State 3- 1 9- 4 114 Sat. at Tennessee-Martin
Middle Tennessee State 3- 1 8- 5 173 Sat. at Morehead State
Eastern Kentucky 3- 2 9- 6 186 Sat. vs Austin Peay State
Southeast Missouri State 3- 2 6- 8 207 Sat. vs Tennessee State
Austin Peay State 2- 2 7- 6 179 Sat. at Eastern Kentucky
Tennessee State 2- 2 5- 9 193 Sat. at SE Missouri State
Tennessee-Martin 2- 3 6- 8 290 Sat. vs Murray State
Tennessee Tech 1- 3 6- 7 270 none
Morehead State 1- 4 6- 9 160 Sat. vs Middle Tennessee St.
Pacific Ten Conference
======================
UCLA 5- 0 12- 3 17 Sat. at Arizona
California 4- 1 9- 4 31 Sat. vs Oregon
Stanford 3- 2 9- 4 26 Sat. vs Oregon State
Arizona 2- 2 12- 3 9 Sat. vs UCLA
Washington 2- 2 9- 4 85 Sun. vs Washington State
Oregon 2- 2 9- 6 53 Sat. at California
Southern California 2- 3 9- 7 55 Sat. at Arizona State
Washington State 1- 3 8- 4 49 Sun. at Washington
Oregon State 1- 3 3-10 99 Sat. at Stanford
Arizona State 0- 4 5- 7 119 Sat. vs Southern California
Patriot League
==============
Navy 3- 0 8- 7 234 Sat. vs Colgate
Colgate 2- 0 5-10 156 Sat. at Navy
Bucknell 1- 1 9- 6 190 Sat. vs Lehigh
Lehigh 1- 1 3-11 287 Sat. at Bucknell
Army 1- 2 4-10 305 Sat. at Holy Cross
Holy Cross 1- 2 4-10 268 Sat. vs Army
Lafayette 0- 3 2-12 267 Sat. vs Dartmouth
Southeastern Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Kentucky 5- 0 14- 1 2 Sat. vs Texas Christian
South Carolina 3- 2 9- 4 16 Sat. vs Alabama
Georgia 2- 2 11- 3 43 Sat. at Tennessee
Vanderbilt 2- 3 11- 6 66 Sat. vs Evansville
Florida 1- 3 6- 8 63 Sat. at Mississippi
Tennessee 1- 4 8- 7 44 Sat. vs Georgia
Western Division
----------------
Alabama 4- 1 10- 3 79 Sat. at South Carolina
Mississippi State 3- 2 11- 3 28 Sat. at Arkansas
Auburn 2- 2 14- 3 82 Sat. vs Louisiana State
Arkansas 2- 2 9- 6 91 Sat. vs Mississippi State
Louisiana State 2- 2 9- 6 68 Sat. at Auburn
Mississippi 0- 4 5- 8 202 Sat. vs Florida
Southern Conference
===================
Northern Division
-----------------
Davidson 2- 0 11- 3 149 Sat. at Virginia Military
Appalachian State 1- 0 5- 8 163 Sat. at The Citadel
Marshall 1- 1 8- 5 88 Sat. at East Tennessee State
Virginia Military 0- 1 5- 6 97 Sat. vs Davidson
East Tennessee State 0- 1 4- 8 166 Sat. vs Marshall
Southern Division
-----------------
The Citadel 2- 0 7- 5 294 Sat. vs Appalachian State
Tennessee-Chattanooga 1- 1 7- 6 144 Sat. vs Georgia Southern
Furman 1- 1 5- 9 253 Sat. at Western Carolina
Western Carolina 0- 1 3- 9 244 Sat. vs Furman
Georgia Southern 0- 2 1-12 303 Sat. at UT-Chattanooga
Southland Conference
====================
Texas-San Antonio 4- 1 6- 7 210 Sat. at Northeast Louisiana
Stephen F. Austin State 3- 2 8- 5 194 none
McNeese State 3- 2 7- 5 143 Sat. vs North Texas
Southwest Texas State 3- 2 7- 6 282 Sat. at Northwestern State
Texas-Arlington 2- 2 6- 6 150 Sat. at Nicholls State
North Texas 2- 2 3- 8 242 Sat. at McNeese State
Northeast Louisiana 2- 2 3-10 249 Sat. vs Texas-San Antonio
Sam Houston State 2- 3 4- 9 237 none
Nicholls State 2- 3 2-10 291 Sat. vs Texas-Arlington
Northwestern State 0- 4 2-10 293 Sat. vs Southwest Texas St.
Southwest Conference
====================
Texas Tech 3- 0 13- 1 33 Sat. vs Houston
Houston 3- 0 8- 6 172 Sat. at Texas Tech
Texas 2- 1 9- 4 38 Sat. vs Southern Methodist
Rice 2- 1 9- 5 86 Sat. at Texas A&M
Baylor 1- 2 6- 9 183 none
Southern Methodist 1- 2 5- 9 213 Sat. at Texas
Texas A&M 0- 3 8- 7 165 Sat. vs Rice
Texas Christian 0- 3 9- 8 100 Sat. at Kentucky
Southwestern Athletic Conference
================================
Mississippi Valley State 4- 0 13- 3 197 Sat. at Jackson State
Southern 2- 2 8- 5 147 Sat. vs Texas Southern
Grambling State 2- 2 7- 9 271 Sat. vs Alabama State
Texas Southern 2- 2 7- 9 248 Sat. at Southern
Alcorn State 2- 2 5- 9 288 Sat. vs Prairie View A&M
Alabama State 2- 2 5- 9 300 Sat. at Grambling State
Jackson State 2- 2 6-11 200 Sat. vs Mississippi Valley
Prairie View A&M 0- 4 3-13 276 Sat. at Alcorn State
Sun Belt Conference
===================
Jacksonville 4- 1 8- 5 69 none
Southwestern Louisiana 4- 2 10- 4 112 Sat. vs New Orleans
Lamar 4- 2 8- 5 125 Sat. at Texas-Pan American
New Orleans 4- 2 8- 6 94 Sat. at SW Louisiana
Arkansas-Little Rock 3- 2 10- 3 67 Sun. at Western Kentucky
South Alabama 3- 3 8- 6 152 Sun. vs Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky 3- 3 6- 8 104 Sun. vs Arkansas-Little Rock
Louisiana Tech 2- 4 6- 8 255 Sun. at South Alabama
Arkansas State 2- 4 4-10 229 none
Texas-Pan American 0- 6 2-12 298 Sat. vs Lamar
Trans America Athletic Conference
=================================
Eastern Division
----------------
College of Charleston 5- 0 12- 2 54 Sat. at Fla. International
Campbell 4- 1 8- 6 191 Sat. at Florida Atlantic
Stetson 2- 3 6- 9 277 Sat. at Mercer
Florida International 1- 4 7- 8 274 Sat. vs Charleston
Florida Atlantic 1- 4 5- 9 245 Sat. vs Campbell
Central Florida 1- 4 3-12 264 Sat. at Georgia State
Western Division
----------------
Southeastern Louisiana 5- 0 9- 6 263 Sat. vs Jacksonville State
Centenary 4- 1 7- 7 231 Sat. vs Samford
Samford 3- 2 8- 6 217 Sat. at Centenary
Georgia State 2- 3 6- 9 260 Sat. vs Central Florida
Mercer 1- 4 7- 8 214 Sat. vs Stetson
Jacksonville State 1- 4 6- 8 175 Sat. at SE Louisiana
West Coast Conference
=====================
Santa Clara 2- 0 11- 3 13 Fri. at LMU, Sat. at Pepp
San Fransisco 3- 1 10- 7 154 Sat. at Gonzaga
Gonzaga 2- 1 10- 4 181 Sat. vs San Fransisco
Loyola Marymount 1- 1 10- 4 169 Fri. vs SCU, Sat. vs St Mary
San Diego 2- 2 7- 7 151 Sat. at Portland
Portland 1- 2 10- 5 120 Sat. vs San Diego
Pepperdine 0- 2 7- 7 238 Fri. vs St Mary, Sat. vs SCU
St.Mary's 0- 2 7- 7 113 Fri. at Pepp, Sat. at LMU
Western Athletic Conference
===========================
Utah 5- 1 13- 3 32 Sat. vs Wyoming
Fresno State 5- 1 11- 5 57 Sat. vs Hawaii
New Mexico 4- 2 14- 2 76 Sat. at Texas-El Paso
Brigham Young 4- 2 10- 5 92 Sat. vs Colorado State
San Diego State 4- 3 8- 6 102 Sat. at Air Force
Colorado State 3- 3 9- 6 164 Sat. at Brigham Young
Wyoming 2- 4 8- 8 201 Sat. at Utah
Texas-El Paso 2- 4 10- 5 80 Sat. vs New Mexico
Air Force 1- 5 5-10 236 Sat. vs San Diego State
Hawaii 1- 6 4-11 107 Sat. at Fresno State
Independents
============
Oral Roberts 6- 6 192 Sat. vs Southern Utah
Wofford 0-12 296 Sat. vs Tusculum
|
| 14.1546 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | From BK>>Dean to BK>>TO | Fri Jan 26 1996 14:37 | 467 |
| American West Conference Conf W- L RPI Games This Weekend
======================== ==== ==== === ==================
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 1- 0 9- 9 258 none
Southern Utah 0- 0 9- 8 202 Sat. vs Cal State-Northridge
Cal State-Northridge 0- 0 4-13 245 Sat. at Southern Utah
Cal State-Sacramento 0- 1 4-14 257 none
Atlantic Coast Conference
=========================
Wake Forest 5- 1 13- 2 9 Sat. at North Carolina
North Carolina 5- 1 14- 4 7 Sat. vs Wake Forest
Georgia Tech 5- 1 12- 8 17 Sat. vs Florida State
Clemson 3- 3 12- 3 19 Sat. vs North Carolina State
Maryland 2- 3 9- 6 43 Sun. at Duke
Florida State 2- 4 10- 6 53 Sat. at Georgia Tech
Duke 2- 4 11- 7 39 Sun. vs Maryland
Virginia 2- 5 7- 8 57 Sun. at Connecticut
North Carolina State 1- 5 11- 7 78 Sat. at Clemson
Atlantic Ten Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Temple 6- 0 10- 7 41 Sun. vs St.Joseph's
Massachusetts 5- 0 17- 0 1 Sat. vs St.Bonaventure
Rhode Island 3- 2 11- 5 79 Sat. vs Duquesne
St.Joseph's 2- 2 7- 6 111 Sun. at Temple
St.Bonaventure 1- 5 5-10 142 Sat. at Massachusetts
Fordham 0- 6 2-13 272 Sat. at Virginia Tech
Western Division
----------------
Virginia Tech 5- 1 12- 2 25 Sat. vs Fordham
George Washington 4- 1 10- 4 123 none
Xavier (Ohio) 4- 1 8- 7 158 Sat. at Dayton
Dayton 1- 4 9- 7 102 Sat. vs Xavier (Ohio)
LaSalle 1- 5 4-13 150 Sat. at Pennsylvania
Duquesne 0- 5 5- 9 166 Sat. at Rhode Island
Big East Conference
===================
Big East Seven
--------------
Georgetown 7- 1 17- 2 27 Sat. at St.John's
Seton Hall 5- 4 9- 7 32 Sun. vs Rutgers
Syracuse 4- 4 13- 5 13 Sat. vs Boston College
Miami (Florida) 4- 4 10- 6 68 Sat. at Villanova
Pittsburgh 3- 4 8- 7 86 Sun. vs Providence
Providence 2- 6 9- 7 48 Sun. at Pittsburgh
Rutgers 1- 5 4-10 115 Sun. at Seton Hall
Big East Six
------------
Connecticut 9- 0 18- 1 6 Sun. vs Virginia
Villanova 6- 2 15- 3 3 Sat. vs vs Miami (Florida)
Boston College 5- 2 12- 3 21 Sat. at Syracuse
West Virginia 2- 6 7- 9 129 Sat. at Notre Dame
St.John's 1- 6 7- 8 56 Sat. vs Georgetown
Notre Dame 1- 6 6- 8 101 Sat. vs West Virginia
Big Eight Conference
====================
Kansas 3- 0 15- 1 11 Sun. at Nebraska
Kansas State 4- 1 13- 4 44 Sat. at Missouri
Nebraska 3- 1 15- 4 50 Sun. vs Kansas
Iowa State 3- 1 14- 4 29 Sat. vs Oklahoma
Missouri 2- 2 12- 6 99 Sat. vs Kansas State
Oklahoma 2- 3 10- 7 51 Sat. at Iowa State
Oklahoma State 0- 4 10- 6 61 none
Colorado 0- 5 5-11 168 none
Big Sky Conference
==================
Montana State 3- 0 10- 5 59 Fri. at ISU, Sat. at Boise
Boise State 3- 1 7- 9 212 Fri. vs Montana, Sat. vs MSU
Idaho State 3- 1 6- 8 287 Fri. vs MSU, Sat. vs Montana
Montana 2- 1 11- 4 72 Fri. at Boise, Sat. at ISU
Idaho 2- 2 8- 7 228 Sat. vs Northern Arizona
Weber State 2- 3 10- 8 96 Sat. at Eastern Washington
Northern Arizona 1- 4 4-12 293 Sat. at Idaho
Eastern Washington 0- 4 2-12 295 Sat. vs Weber State
Big South Conference
====================
North Carolina-Greensboro 4- 0 10- 4 138 Sat. vs Charleston Southern
Charleston Southern 5- 1 10- 8 178 Sat. at UNC-Greensboro
North Carolina-Asheville 4- 2 10- 6 156 Sat. at Radford
Liberty 3- 2 9- 6 200 Sat. vs Winthrop
Radford 3- 2 9- 8 241 Sat. vs UNC-Asheville
Winthrop 3- 3 4-13 279 Sat. at Liberty
Coastal Carolina 0- 6 4-12 275 Sat. at UM-Baltimore County
Maryland-Baltimore County 0- 6 2-15 297 Sat. vs Coastal Carolina
Big Ten Conference
==================
Penn State 5- 1 14- 1 8 Sat. vs Indiana
Purdue 4- 2 14- 4 10 Sat. vs Ohio State
Michigan 4- 2 14- 5 20 Sun. at Iowa
Indiana 4- 2 11- 7 35 Sat. at Penn State
Michigan State 4- 2 10- 8 65 Sat. at Minnesota
Wisconsin 4- 3 12- 7 47 none
Iowa 3- 3 14- 4 23 Sun. vs Michigan
Minnesota 2- 4 10- 8 42 Sat. vs Michigan State
Illinois 2- 5 13- 6 28 Sat. at Northwestern
Ohio State 1- 5 8- 7 90 Sat. at Purdue
Northwestern 1- 5 6- 9 184 Sat. vs Illinois
Big West Conference
===================
Cal-Irvine 5- 2 8- 6 213 Sat. at Utah State
Cal-Santa Barbara 5- 3 8- 8 197 Sat. at San Jose State
Nevada 4- 3 11- 6 85 Sat. vs Cal State-Fullerton
Long Beach State 4- 3 9- 7 109 Sat. at Pacific
Utah State 4- 3 10- 9 176 Sat. vs Cal-Irvine
Cal State-Fullerton 4- 4 5-11 194 Sat. at Nevada
Nevada-Las Vegas 3- 4 6- 9 207 Sat. at New Mexico State
Pacific 3- 5 7- 9 190 Sat. vs Long Beach State
San Jose State 3- 5 4-12 236 Sat. vs Cal-Santa Barbara
New Mexico State 2- 5 5-10 238 Sat. vs Nevada-Las Vegas
Colonial Athletic Association
=============================
Virginia Commonwealth 6- 1 13- 7 103 none
North Carolina-Wilmington 5- 1 7- 9 118 Sat. at East Carolina
East Carolina 4- 2 11- 4 121 Sat. vs UNC-Wilmington
American 4- 2 8- 7 183 Sat. at George Mason
Old Dominion 4- 2 9- 9 180 Sat. at William and Mary
George Mason 2- 4 7- 9 255 Sat. vs American
William and Mary 2- 4 6- 9 233 Sat. vs Old Dominion
James Madison 1- 6 5-13 181 Sat. at RIchmond
Richmond 0- 6 4-12 219 Sat. vs James Madison
Conference USA
==============
Blue Division
-------------
Cincinnati 4- 1 13- 1 4 Sun. vs Southern California
Marquette 3- 1 12- 4 24 none
St.Louis 2- 4 11- 6 81 Sat. vs UNC-Charlotte
DePaul 0- 6 7-10 94 Sun. at Tulane
Red Division
------------
Tulane 2- 2 10- 5 69 Sun. vs DePaul
Alabama-Birmingham 3- 3 13- 7 63 none
Southern Mississippi 2- 3 8- 8 110 Sat. vs Memphis
South Florida 0- 5 8- 8 149 none
White Division
--------------
Louisville 5- 1 13- 6 26 Sat. at UCLA
Memphis 4- 1 13- 3 30 Sat. at Southern Mississippi
North Carolina-Charlotte 4- 1 10- 6 38 Sat. at St.Louis
Ivy League
==========
Pennsylvania 3- 0 5- 6 141 Sat. vs LaSalle
Harvard 3- 1 10- 5 198 none
Dartmouth 3- 1 9- 6 177 Sat. vs Navy
Princeton 2- 1 9- 5 134 none
Yale 1- 2 5- 8 282 Sat. at Brown
Cornell 1- 2 5- 9 253 Sat. vs Columbia
Brown 0- 3 5-10 220 Sat. vs Yale
Columbia 0- 3 4-11 286 Sat. at Cornell
Metro Atlantic Athletic Association
===================================
Iona 4- 0 12- 2 64 Sun. vs Colgate
Niagara 3- 1 8- 7 182 Fri. vs Fairfield
Fairfield 2- 1 10- 4 113 Fri. at Niag, Sun. vs Canis
Loyola (Maryland) 3- 2 6- 9 226 Sun. vs Manhattan
Manhattan 2- 3 9- 8 126 Sun. at Loyola (Maryland)
Canisius 1- 3 10- 6 88 Sun. vs Fairfield
Siena 1- 3 5-10 224 Sat. vs St.Peter's
St.Peter's 1- 4 10- 6 92 Sat. at Siena
Mid-American Conference
=======================
Eastern Michigan 7- 0 14- 1 22 Sat. vs Kent
Miami (Ohio) 4- 3 12- 3 70 Sat. at Ball State
Toledo 4- 3 11- 7 95 Sat. at Western Michigan
Bowling Green State 4- 3 9- 6 73 Sat. vs Akron
Ball State 4- 3 8- 7 172 Sat. vs Miami (Ohio)
Western Michigan 4- 3 6- 9 135 Sat. vs Toledo
Kent 3- 4 9- 6 140 Sat. at Eastern Michigan
Ohio 3- 4 8-10 151 Sat. at Central Michigan
Central Michigan 2- 5 5-10 229 Sat. vs Ohio
Akron 0- 7 3-12 242 Sat. at Bowling Green State
Mid-Continent Conference
========================
Valparaiso 6- 1 11- 6 155 Sat. at Missouri-Kansas City
Western Illinois 5- 2 8- 6 193 Sat. vs Eastern Illinois
Buffalo 4- 3 7- 7 147 Sat. vs Central Conn. State
Central Connecticut State 4- 3 7- 8 250 Sat. at Buffalo
Northeastern Illinois 4- 4 8- 9 235 none
Missouri-Kansas City 3- 4 5- 8 223 Sat. vs Valparaiso
Troy State 3- 4 6-10 289 Sat. at Youngstown State
Eastern Illinois 3- 4 5- 9 270 Sat. at Western Illinois
Youngstown State 2- 5 7- 8 276 Sat. vs Troy State
Chicago State 2- 6 2-14 281 none
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
===============================
South Carolina State 6- 0 11- 4 217 Sat. at Florida A&M
Coppin State 6- 0 9- 7 196 Sat. at Morgan State
North Carolina A&T 4- 1 6- 8 244 Sat. at Bethune-Cookman
Morgan State 4- 1 5-11 210 Sat. vs Coppin State
Maryland-Eastern Shore 4- 5 9-10 247 Sat. at Howard
Delaware State 3- 4 4-12 299 none
Florida A&M 1- 6 6-11 298 Sat. vs South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman 1- 6 4-11 302 Sat. vs North Carolina A&T
Howard 0- 6 0-15 304 Sat. vs UM-Eastern Shore
Hampton 0- 0 4-14 267 none
Midwestern Collegiate Conference
================================
Wisconsin-Green Bay 8- 0 16- 2 33 none
Northern Illinois 5- 2 12- 5 132 none
Butler 5- 2 12- 5 100 Sat. vs Detroit Mercy
Detroit Mercy 3- 4 11- 6 87 Sat. at Butler
Wright State 3- 4 9- 8 137 none
Illinois-Chicago 3- 4 7-10 139 Sat. vs Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Cleveland State 3- 4 4-11 208 Sat. vs Loyola (Illinois)
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2- 5 5-11 221 Sat. at Illinois-Chicago
Loyola (Illinois) 0- 7 3-13 243 Sat. at Cleveland State
Missouri Valley Conference
==========================
Bradley 6- 2 11- 5 34 none
Illinois State 6- 2 12- 6 74 Sat. vs Wichita State
Drake 6- 2 10- 6 98 Sat. vs Tulsa
Tulsa 4- 2 11- 3 58 Sat. at Drake
Evansville 4- 3 8- 7 144 Sat. at Southern Illinois
Southwest Missouri State 4- 4 8- 8 116 Sat. at Creighton
Northern Iowa 3- 3 9- 5 145 Sat. at Indiana State
Creighton 3- 5 8- 9 175 Sat. vs SW Missouri State
Southern Illinois 2- 4 9- 8 84 Sat. vs Evansville
Indiana State 2- 6 6-10 259 Sat. vs Northern Iowa
Wichita State 1- 8 5-14 218 Sat. at Illinois State
North Atlantic Conference
=========================
Drexel 8- 0 12- 2 82 Fri. vs BU, Sun. vs NE
Towson State 5- 2 9- 6 159 Fri. vs Vt, Sun. vs Hartford
Maine 6- 3 8- 7 185 Fri. at New Hampshire
Boston University 5- 4 8- 9 195 Fri. at Drexel, Sun. at Hofs
Vermont 5- 4 6-10 222 Fri. at Towson, Sun. at Dela
Hofstra 4- 4 7- 7 269 Fri. vs NE, Sun. vs BU
Delaware 3- 4 7- 8 201 Fri. vs Hartford, Sun. vs Vt
New Hampshire 3- 6 4-12 256 Fri. vs Maine
Hartford 3- 6 3-13 263 Fri. at Dela, Sun. at Towson
Northeastern 0- 9 1-15 284 Fri. at Hofs, SUn. at Drexel
Northeast Conference
====================
Marist 8- 0 14- 1 106 Sat. vs Mount St.Mary's
Monmouth 7- 1 10- 6 136 Sat. vs Wagner
Mount St.Mary's 5- 2 9- 6 165 Sat. at Marist
St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 4- 4 6- 9 179 Sat. vs St.Francis (N.Y.)
Fairleigh Dickinson 4- 4 5-11 206 Sat. vs Rider
Rider 3- 4 8- 8 107 Sat. at Fairleigh Dickinson
Wagner 3- 4 6- 9 264 Sat. at Monmouth
Long Island-Brooklyn 2- 5 5-10 246 Sat. at Robert Morris
St.Francis (New York) 1- 7 7- 9 225 Sat. at St.Francis (Pa.)
Robert Morris 1- 7 3-13 301 Sat. vs LIU-Brooklyn
Ohio Valley Conference
======================
Murray State 4- 1 10- 5 124 Sat. at Austin Peay State
Austin Peay State 4- 2 9- 6 152 Sat. vs Murray State
Tennessee State 3- 2 6- 9 174 Sat. vs Eastern Kentucky
Eastern Kentucky 4- 3 10- 7 199 Sat. at Tennessee State
Southeast Missouri State 4- 3 7- 9 215 none
Middle Tennessee State 3- 3 9- 7 187 Sat. vs Tennessee-Martin
Tennessee-Martin 2- 4 6- 9 280 Sat. at Middle Tennessee St.
Morehead State 2- 5 7-10 214 Sat. at Tennessee Tech
Tennessee Tech 1- 4 6- 8 254 Sat. vs Morehead State
Pacific Ten Conference
======================
UCLA 6- 1 13- 4 12 Sat. vs Louisville
California 6- 1 11- 4 37 Sat. at Washington
Arizona 4- 2 14- 3 5 Sat. at Oregon
Washington 4- 2 11- 4 83 Sat. vs California
Stanford 4- 3 10- 5 31 Sat. at Washington State
Southern California 3- 4 10- 8 36 Sun. at Cincinnati
Oregon 2- 4 9- 8 80 Sat. vs Arizona
Washington State 1- 5 8- 6 66 Sat. vs Stanford
Arizona State 1- 5 6- 8 153 Sat. at Oregon State
Oregon State 1- 5 3-12 146 Sat. vs Arizona State
Patriot League
==============
Navy 4- 1 9- 8 232 Sat. at Dartmouth
Bucknell 3- 1 11- 6 173 Sat. vs Lafayette
Colgate 3- 1 6-11 169 Sat. at Army, Sun. at Iona
Holy Cross 2- 2 7-10 278 Sat. at Lehigh
Lehigh 2- 2 4-12 292 Sat. vs Holy Cross
Army 1- 4 4-12 303 Sat. vs Colgate
Lafayette 0- 4 2-15 290 Sat. at Bucknell
Southeastern Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Kentucky 6- 0 16- 1 2 Sat. vs South Carolina
South Carolina 5- 2 11- 4 14 Sat. at Kentucky
Florida 3- 3 8- 8 54 Sat. vs Louisiana State
Georgia 2- 4 11- 5 60 Sat. at Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt 2- 4 12- 7 52 Sat. vs Georgia
Tennessee 2- 4 9- 7 46 Sat. at Mississippi State
Western Division
----------------
Arkansas 4- 2 11- 6 67 Sat. vs Oral Roberts
Alabama 4- 3 10- 5 49 Sat. at Mississippi
Auburn 3- 3 15- 4 77 none
Mississippi State 3- 4 11- 5 40 Sat. vs Tennessee
Louisiana State 2- 3 10- 7 55 Sat. at Florida
Mississippi 1- 5 6- 7 189 Sat. vs Alabama
Southern Conference
===================
Northern Division
-----------------
Davidson 3- 0 12- 3 117 Sat. at Marshall
Marshall 2- 2 9- 6 130 Sat. vs Davidson
Virginia Military 1- 1 7- 5 161 Sat. vs Appalachian State
Appalachian State 1- 2 5-10 171 Sat. at Virginia Military
East Tennessee State 1- 3 5-10 188 none
Southern Division
-----------------
The Citadel 4- 0 9- 6 237 Sat. at Western Carolina
Tennessee-Chattanooga 2- 2 8- 7 191 Sat. at Furman
Furman 2- 2 6-10 249 Sat. vs UT-Chattanooga
Western Carolina 1- 2 4-10 288 Sat. vs The Citadel
Georgia Southern 1- 4 2-14 305 none
Southland Conference
====================
McNeese State 5- 2 9- 5 154 Sat. at Stephen F. Austin
Texas-San Antonio 5- 2 7- 8 204 Sat. vs Southwest Texas St.
Stephen F. Austin State 4- 3 9- 6 192 Sat. vs McNeese State
Southwest Texas State 4- 3 8- 7 262 Sat. at Texas-San Antonio
North Texas 4- 3 5- 9 252 Sat. vs Northeast Louisiana
Northeast Louisiana 4- 3 5-11 271 Sat. at North Texas
Nicholls State 4- 3 4-11 273 Sat. at Sam Houston State
Texas-Arlington 2- 5 6- 9 251 Sat. vs Northwestern State
Sam Houston State 2- 5 4-11 230 Sat. vs Nicholls State
Northwestern State 1- 6 3-12 294 Sat. at Texas-Arlington
Southwest Conference
====================
Texas Tech 5- 0 15- 1 18 Sun. vs Texas
Texas 4- 1 11- 4 45 Sun. at Texas Tech
Houston 4- 1 9- 7 127 Sat. at Baylor
Rice 2- 3 9- 7 114 none
Texas Christian 1- 3 10- 9 105 Sat. at Southern Methodist
Baylor 1- 3 6-10 205 Sat. vs Houston
Texas A&M 1- 4 9- 8 143 none
Southern Methodist 1- 4 5-11 203 Sat. vs Texas Christian
Southwestern Athletic Conference
================================
Mississippi Valley State 6- 0 15- 3 162 Sat. vs Grambling State
Southern 4- 2 10- 6 157 Sat. at Alcorn State
Texas Southern 3- 3 8-10 265 Sat. at Prairie View A&M
Alcorn State 3- 3 6-10 260 Sat. vs Southern
Alabama State 3- 3 6-10 296 Sat. at Jackson State
Jackson State 3- 3 7-12 209 Sat. vs Alabama State
Grambling State 2- 4 7-11 283 Sat. at Mississippi Valley
Prairie View A&M 0- 6 4-15 291 Sat. vs Texas Southern
Sun Belt Conference
===================
New Orleans 6- 2 10- 6 91 Sat. vs Texas-Pan American
Jacksonville 5- 2 9- 6 97 Sun. at South Alabama
Arkansas-Little Rock 4- 3 11- 4 76 Sat. vs Lamar
Southwestern Louisiana 4- 3 10- 5 112 Sat. at Arkansas State
Western Kentucky 4- 3 7- 8 119 Sat. vs Louisiana Tech
Lamar 4- 4 9- 7 148 Sat. at Arkansas-Little Rock
South Alabama 3- 5 8- 8 167 Sun. vs Jacksonville
Louisiana Tech 3- 5 7- 9 227 Sat. at Western Kentucky
Arkansas State 3- 5 5-11 234 Sat. vs SW Louisiana
Texas-Pan American 2- 6 4-12 285 Sat. at New Orleans
Trans America Athletic Conference
=================================
Eastern Division
----------------
College of Charleston 6- 0 14- 2 75 Sat. at Campbell
Campbell 5- 1 10- 6 160 Sat. vs Charleston
Stetson 3- 4 7-10 266 Sat. vs Florida Atlantic
Central Florida 3- 4 5-12 277 Sat. vs Florida Internat'l
Florida International 1- 6 7-10 248 Sat. at Central Florida
Florida Atlantic 1- 6 5-11 268 Sat. at Stetson
Western Division
----------------
Southeastern Louisiana 6- 0 10- 6 216 Sat. vs Centenary
Samford 5- 2 10- 6 163 Sat. vs Mercer
Centenary 4- 2 7- 9 261 Sat. at SE Louisiana
Mercer 3- 4 9- 8 239 Sat. at Samford
Georgia State 2- 5 6-11 274 Sat. at Jacksonville State
Jacksonville State 1- 6 6-10 211 Sat. vs Georgia State
West Coast Conference
=====================
Gonzaga 4- 1 13- 4 104 Sat. at Portland
Santa Clara 3- 1 12- 4 15 Fri. vs Pepp, Sat. vs LMU
San Fransisco 3- 2 10- 8 120 Sat. vs San Diego
Loyola Marymount 2- 2 12- 5 122 Fri. at St Mary, Sat. at SCU
St.Mary's 2- 2 9- 7 128 Fri. vs LMU, Sat. vs Pepp
Portland 2- 3 11- 6 125 Sat. vs Gonzaga
San Diego 2- 3 8- 8 170 Sat. at San Fransisco
Pepperdine 0- 4 7- 9 240 Fri. at SCU, Sat. at St.Mary
Western Athletic Conference
===========================
Utah 7- 1 15- 3 16 Sat. at New Mexico
New Mexico 6- 2 16- 2 71 Sat. vs Utah
Fresno State 6- 2 12- 6 62 Sat. at Wyoming
Colorado State 5- 3 11- 6 108 Sat. vs Air Force
San Diego State 5- 3 10- 6 93 Sun. at Hawaii
Brigham Young 4- 4 10- 7 89 Sat. at Texas-El paso
Wyoming 3- 5 9- 9 133 Sat. vs Fresno State
Texas-El Paso 2- 6 10- 7 131 Sat. vs Brigham Young
Air Force 1- 7 5-12 231 Sat. at Colorado State
Hawaii 1- 7 4-12 164 Sun. vs San Diego State
Independents
============
Oral Roberts 8- 6 186 Sat. at Arkansas
Wofford 1-13 300 none
|
| 14.1547 | Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Tue Jan 30 1996 14:32 | 27 |
| CNN/USA Today/Coaches: AP:
---------------------- ---
1. Massachusetts 1. Massachusetts
2. Kentucky 2. Kentucky
3. Kansas 3. Kansas
4. Connecticut 4. Connecticut
5. Cincinnati 5. Cincinnati
6. Villanova 6. Villanova
7. Utah 7. Utah
8. No Carolina 8. No Carolina
9. Georgetown 9. Georgetown
10. Wake Forest 10. Penn St
11. Penn St 11. Memphis
12. Arizona 12. Wake Forest
13. Memphis 13. Va Tech
14. Va Tech 14. Arizona
15. Purdue 15. Texas Tech
16. Syracuse 16. Iowa
17. Iowa 17. Purdue
18. Michigan 18. Syracuse
19. UCLA 19. UCLA
20. Texas Tech 20. Michigan
21. Clemson 21. Boston College
22. Auburn 22. Auburn
23. Boston College 23. E Michigan
24. Stanford 24. Clemson
25. Georgia 25. Georgia Tech
|
| 14.1548 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Cheatin' Cowboys suck!!! | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:08 | 4 |
|
As ususal Tarheels losses don't count against them with the pollsters.
Georgetown, Virgina tech and Wake Forest loose and deservedly drop.
UNC looses yet gets ranked higher. Go Figure........
|
| 14.1549 | get spanked, get ranked | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:14 | 7 |
| We all know that them polls is only voting and a there are a lot of
idiots out there voting. Hail, some of 'em don't even vote theyselves.
But hey, it don't matter cause unlike the MNC of college football, these
guys will win and lose it on the court.
TTom
|
| 14.1550 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donnie Baseball Yankee HOFer!!! | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:19 | 3 |
|
Yabbut I hate the TarHeels being ahead of my Hoyas!!
|
| 14.1551 | could be a good game | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:26 | 15 |
| > Yabbut I hate the TarHeels being ahead of my Hoyas!!
Right now, that would be a_interesting game.
Harrington would dominate Zwikker. Hail, Chuch Nevitt woulda dominated
ol' Serge. Hoyas fans would hope that Dean stays with this lame-oh
instead of moving Atawn Jamison to the middle.
There's no one on this Heels team that can hang with Iverson. McInnis
would make a_attempt but that's about it.
The best shooter of the bunch is Calibria. Vince Carter is approximately
unstoppable at times but generally is fading into obscurity under Dean.
TTom
|
| 14.1552 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:28 | 2 |
|
TTom possessed by the spirit of ACCrisp... bring in the priests!!!
|
| 14.1553 | slowest 90 feet in college hoops | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Tue Jan 30 1996 15:35 | 11 |
| >TTom possessed by the spirit of ACCrisp... bring in the priests!!!
Take two rosaries and a novena and remember to drink a lot of fluids...
There have always been 2 ways to beat them Heels. A great player or a
fast team. Iverson may be both.
With Zwikker in the post, Dean has exceeded his own standards for time
spent covering the same ground.
TTom
|
| 14.1554 | The Vince Carter story | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Marcus is back! | Tue Jan 30 1996 16:10 | 14 |
| Vince Carter is a classic example of a guy in the wrong program who
will do much better once he escapes the clutches of the Rev. Smif.
Carter was a consensus first team All-American who was supposed to fill
the void left by the departure of Jerry Stackhouse. But rather than
let Carter develop on his own pace, the Rev. has compressed his game to
fit into the Heels' "system" and Carter has had trouble adapting.
I would not be surprised to see him transfer after this season, except
that the Rev. doesn't let anybody transfer that he still wants. So his
game will suffer for two more years until he turns pro after his junior
season. He'll be a mid-to-low first round draft pick, but will go on
to have a long and successful NBA career.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1555 | what he said :=} | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Tue Jan 30 1996 16:23 | 0 |
| 14.1556 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | From BK>>Dean to BK>>TO | Mon Feb 05 1996 16:25 | 467 |
| American West Conference Conf W- L RPI Next Game
======================== ==== ==== === =========
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 2- 0 10-10 248 Tue. vs Cal State-Northridge
Southern Utah 1- 0 11- 9 182 Tue. at Cal-Irvine
Cal State-Northridge 1- 1 5-15 265 Tue. at Cal Poly-S.L.Obispo
Cal State-Sacramento 0- 3 4-16 260 Tue. at Oral Roberts
Atlantic Coast Conference
=========================
North Carolina 7- 2 16- 5 4 Tue. vs Maryland
Wake Forest 6- 2 14- 3 11 Wed. vs Florida State
Georgia Tech 6- 3 13-10 16 Wed. vs Duke
Maryland 4- 4 11- 7 32 Tue. at North Carolina
Clemson 4- 5 13- 5 26 Tue. vs Wofford
Duke 4- 5 13- 8 43 Wed. at Georgia Tech
North Carolina State 3- 6 13- 8 63 Thu. vs Virginia
Virginia 3- 6 8-10 66 Mon. vs Old Dominion
Florida State 2- 6 10- 8 67 Wed. at Wake Forest
Atlantic Ten Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Massachusetts 9- 0 21- 0 2 Tue. at Fordham
Temple 7- 2 11- 9 36 Thu. vs St.Joseph's
Rhode Island 4- 4 12- 7 74 Tue. at LaSalle
St.Joseph's 3- 5 8- 9 118 Mon. vs St.Bonaventure
St.Bonaventure 2- 7 6-12 134 Mon. at St.Joseph's
Fordham 0- 9 2-16 271 Tue. vs Massachusetts
Western Division
----------------
Virginia Tech 8- 1 16- 2 49 Tue. vs Duquesne
George Washington 6- 1 12- 4 69 Mon. vs UNC-Charlotte
Xavier (Ohio) 5- 3 9- 9 176 Wed. at George Washington
Duquesne 3- 6 8-10 170 Tue. at Virginia Tech
LaSalle 2- 6 5-15 185 Tue. vs Rhode Island
Dayton 2- 7 10-10 104 Tue. vs Bethune-Cookman
Big East Conference
===================
Big East Seven
--------------
Georgetown 9- 2 19- 3 29 Mon. at Villanova
Syracuse 6- 5 16- 6 13 Wed. at Pittsburgh
Seton Hall 6- 5 10- 9 41 Wed. at Rutgers
Providence 5- 6 12- 7 50 Tue. at Connecticut
Miami (Florida) 4- 6 10- 8 72 Tue. vs West Virginia
Pittsburgh 4- 6 9- 9 71 Wed. vs Syracuse
Rutgers 2- 8 5-13 154 Wed. vs Seton Hall
Big East Six
------------
Connecticut 11- 0 21- 1 5 Tue. vs Providence
Villanova 9- 2 18- 3 3 Mon. vs Georgetown
Boston College 6- 4 13- 5 23 Wed. at St.John's
West Virginia 3- 8 8-11 131 Tue. at Miami (Florida)
St.John's 2- 8 8-10 51 Wed. vs Boston College
Notre Dame 2- 9 7-11 139 Tue. at Manhattan
Big Eight Conference
====================
Kansas 6- 0 18- 1 10 Wed. vs Iowa State
Iowa State 5- 1 16- 4 22 Wed. at Kansas
Kansas State 5- 3 14- 6 42 Wed. vs Colorado
Nebraska 3- 4 15- 7 57 Wed. at Missouri
Missouri 3- 4 13- 8 73 Wed. vs Nebraska
Oklahoma 3- 4 12- 8 55 Mon. vs Oklahoma State
Oklahoma State 1- 5 11- 7 62 Mon. at Oklahoma
Colorado 1- 6 6-12 145 Wed. at Kansas State
Big Sky Conference
==================
Montana State 6- 1 13- 6 78 Thu. at Northern Arizona
Boise State 6- 1 10- 9 156 Fri. at Idaho
Montana 5- 2 14- 5 107 Thu. at Weber State
Weber State 4- 3 13- 8 120 Thu. vs Montana
Idaho 3- 4 9- 9 200 Fri. vs Boise State
Idaho State 3- 4 7-11 281 Fri. at Eastern Washington
Northern Arizona 1- 6 4-14 297 Thu. vs Montana State
Eastern Washington 0- 7 2-16 301 Fri. vs Idaho State
Big South Conference
====================
North Carolina-Greensboro 7- 0 13- 5 132 Wed. at Radford
North Carolina-Asheville 6- 2 13- 6 146 Mon. vs Coastal Carolina
Charleston Southern 6- 3 11-10 169 Sat. vs UM-Baltimore County
Liberty 4- 4 10- 9 217 Mon. vs UM-Baltimore County
Radford 4- 5 10-11 252 Wed. vs UNC-Greensboro
Winthrop 4- 5 5-15 275 Sat. vs Radford
Coastal Carolina 1- 7 5-13 287 Mon. at UNC-Asheville
Maryland-Baltimore County 1- 7 3-16 291 Mon. at Liberty
Big Ten Conference
==================
Penn State 7- 2 16- 2 6 Thu. vs Illinois
Purdue 7- 2 17- 4 8 Wed. at Wisconsin
Indiana 6- 3 13- 8 30 Tue. at Minnesota
Michigan State 6- 3 12- 9 61 Wed. vs Ohio State
Michigan 5- 4 15- 7 19 Sat. at Purdue
Wisconsin 5- 4 13- 8 44 Wed. vs Purdue
Iowa 4- 5 15- 6 25 Wed. at Northwestern
Minnesota 3- 5 11- 9 54 Tur. vs Indiana
Illinois 3- 6 14- 7 28 Thu. at Penn State
Ohio State 2- 7 9- 9 96 Wed. at Michigan State
Northwestern 1- 8 6-12 192 Wed. vs Iowa
Big West Conference
===================
Long Beach State 7- 3 12- 7 142 Mon. vs Nevada-Las Vegas
Cal-Irvine 7- 3 10- 7 190 Tue. vs Southern Utah
Cal-Santa Barbara 7- 4 10- 9 189 Thu. vs New Mexico State
Nevada 6- 4 13- 7 91 Thu. at Pacific
Utah State 6- 4 12-10 193 Thu. at San Jose State
Pacific 4- 6 8-10 225 Thu. vs Nevada
Nevada-Las Vegas 4- 6 7-11 218 Mon. at Long Beach State
New Mexico State 4- 7 7-12 205 Thu. at Cal-Santa Barbara
Cal State-Fullerton 4- 7 5-14 210 Sat. at Cal-Irvine
San Jose State 3- 8 4-15 250 Thu. vs Utah State
Colonial Athletic Association
=============================
Virginia Commonwealth 9- 1 16- 7 87 Wed. vs William & Mary
East Carolina 7- 3 14- 5 110 Mon. vs George Mason
Old Dominion 7- 3 12-10 171 Mon. at Virginia
North Carolina-Wilmington 6- 4 8-12 137 Mon. vs American
American 5- 4 9- 9 191 Mon. at UNC-Wilmington
William and Mary 4- 6 8-11 256 Wed. at Va.Commonwealth
George Mason 3- 7 8-12 234 Mon. at East Carolina
Richmond 2- 8 6-14 207 Wed. at James Madison
James Madison 1- 8 5-16 211 Wed. vs Richmond
Conference USA
==============
Blue Division
-------------
Cincinnati 6- 1 17- 1 7 Wed. vs St.Louis
Marquette 4- 3 13- 5 31 Wed. vs South Florida
St.Louis 3- 5 12- 7 68 Wed. at Cincinnati
DePaul 0- 8 7-13 81 Wed. vs Alabama-Birmingham
Red Division
------------
Tulane 4- 3 12- 6 64 Thu. at Louisville
Alabama-Birmingham 3- 4 13- 8 60 Wed. at DePaul
Southern Mississippi 3- 4 9- 9 116 Tue. vs Alabama
South Florida 0- 7 8-10 133 Wed. at Marquette
White Division
--------------
Louisville 7- 1 16- 6 17 Thu. vs Tulane
Memphis 7- 2 16- 4 21 Thu. at UNC-Charlotte
North Carolina-Charlotte 4- 3 11- 8 35 Mon. at George Washington
Ivy League
==========
Pennsylvania 5- 0 9- 6 148 Tue. vs Lehigh
Dartmouth 5- 1 12- 6 160 Fri. vs Pennsylvania
Princeton 4- 1 12- 5 129 Fri. at Harvard
Harvard 4- 2 12- 6 194 Fri. vs Princeton
Brown 2- 4 7-11 220 Fri. at Columbia
Cornell 2- 4 6-11 258 Fri. vs Yale
Yale 1- 5 5-11 278 Fri. at Cornell
Columbia 0- 6 4-14 296 Fri. vs Brown
Metro Atlantic Athletic Association
===================================
Iona 6- 1 15- 3 40 Thu. vs Niagara
Loyola (Maryland) 5- 2 8-10 183 Sat. vs Canisius
Canisius 4- 3 13- 6 99 Thu. at Siena
Fairfield 3- 3 11- 7 108 Tue. at St.Peter's
Manhattan 4- 5 11-10 112 Tue. vs Notre Dame
Niagara 3- 4 9-10 206 Thu. at Iona
St.Peter's 2- 5 12- 7 125 Tue. vs Fairfield
Siena 1- 5 5-13 224 Thu. vs Canisius
Mid-American Conference
=======================
Eastern Michigan 9- 1 16- 2 18 Wed. at Western Michigan
Western Michigan 7- 3 9- 9 114 Wed. vs Eastern Michigan
Miami (Ohio) 6- 4 14- 4 80 Wed. at Toledo
Ball State 6- 4 10- 8 119 Wed. at Akron
Kent 5- 5 11- 7 178 Wed. at Ohio
Toledo 5- 5 12- 9 127 Wed. vs Miami (Ohio)
Bowling Green State 5- 5 10- 8 106 Wed. vs Central Michigan
Ohio 5- 5 10-11 159 Wed. vs Kent
Central Michigan 2- 8 5-13 226 Wed. at Bowling Green State
Akron 0-10 3-15 254 Wed. vs Ball State
Mid-Continent Conference
========================
Valparaiso 7- 2 12- 7 144 Mon. at Eastern Illinois
Buffalo 8- 3 11- 7 174 Mon. vs Missouri-Kansas City
Northeastern Illinois 6- 4 10- 9 236 Mon. at Troy State
Western Illinois 6- 4 9- 9 214 Mon. at Youngstown State
Eastern Illinois 5- 4 8- 9 235 Mon. vs Valparaiso
Central Connecticut State 5- 5 8-10 228 Mon. vs Chicago State
Missouri-Kansas City 4- 6 6-10 223 Mon. at Buffalo
Troy State 3- 6 6-12 290 Mon. vs NE Illinois
Youngstown State 3- 8 8-11 269 Mon. vs Western Illinois
Chicago State 2- 7 2-15 282 Mon. at Central Connecticut
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
===============================
South Carolina State 8- 1 13- 5 209 Mon. at Delaware State
Coppin State 8- 1 11- 8 180 Thu. vs Bethune-Cookman
North Carolina A&T 5- 3 7-10 241 Mon. at UM-Eastern Shore
Delaware State 5- 4 6-12 292 Mon. vs South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman 5- 5 9- 9 294 Tue. at Dayton
Morgan State 3- 5 4-15 247 Mon. at Howard
Maryland-Eastern Shore 4- 7 9-12 277 Mon. vs North Carolina A&T
Howard 2- 6 3-15 303 Mon. vs Morgan State
Florida A&M 1- 9 6-14 293 Thu. at Howard
Hampton 0- 0 5-15 266 Mon. vs Barton
Midwestern Collegiate Conference
================================
Wisconsin-Green Bay 10- 0 18- 2 24 Sat. at Northern Illinois
Butler 8- 2 15- 5 85 Sat. at Cleveland State
Northern Illinois 6- 3 13- 6 140 Thu. vs Illinois-Chicago
Detroit Mercy 4- 5 12- 7 89 Mon. at Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Illinois-Chicago 4- 5 8-11 147 Thu. at Northern Illinois
Wright State 4- 6 10-10 122 Sat. vs Loyola (Illinois)
Cleveland State 3- 7 5-14 231 Thu. vs Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2- 7 6-13 222 Mon. vs Detroit Mercy
Loyola (Illinois) 2- 8 5-14 261 Sat. at Wright State
Missouri Valley Conference
==========================
Bradley 9- 2 14- 5 33 Wed. at SW Missouri State
Illinois State 8- 2 14- 7 84 Mon. at Creighton
Drake 7- 4 11- 8 83 Thu. at Indiana State
Tulsa 6- 4 13- 5 45 Sat. at Wichita State
Creighton 6- 5 11- 9 152 Mon. vs Illinois State
Southwest Missouri State 6- 5 10- 9 138 Wed. vs Bradley
Evansville 5- 5 9- 9 130 Mon. at Northern Iowa
Northern Iowa 4- 5 10- 7 117 Mon. vs Evansville
Southern Illinois 3- 7 10-11 124 Mon. at Wichita State
Indiana State 3- 8 7-12 213 Thu. vs Drake
Wichita State 1-11 5-17 232 Mon. vs Southern Illinois
North Atlantic Conference
=========================
Drexel 11- 1 15- 3 95 Wed. vs Towson State
Towson State 8- 3 12- 7 155 Wed. at Drexel
Boston University 9- 4 12- 9 163 Thu. vs Hartford
Maine 8- 4 11- 8 184 Fri. at Delaware
Delaware 6- 5 10- 9 199 Fri. vs Maine
Vermont 6- 6 8-12 221 Thu. vs Northeastern
Hofstra 4- 8 7-12 264 Sat. at Drexel
New Hampshire 4- 8 5-15 262 Fri. at Towson State
Hartford 3- 9 3-16 267 Mon. vs Holy Cross
Northeastern 1-12 2-19 279 Thu. at Vermont
Northeast Conference
====================
Marist 9- 1 16- 2 93 Mon. at St.Francis (Pa.)
Monmouth 9- 1 12- 6 115 Mon. at St.Francis (N.Y.)
Mount St.Mary's 8- 2 12- 6 121 Mon. vs Wagner
St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 6- 4 8-10 173 Mon. vs Marist
Rider 5- 5 10- 9 135 Mon. at LIU-Brooklyn
Wagner 4- 6 7-11 238 Mon. at Mount St.Mary's
Fairleigh Dickinson 4- 6 5-13 212 Mon. at Robert Morris
Long Island-Brooklyn 3- 7 6-12 249 Mon. vs Rider
St.Francis (New York) 1- 9 7-11 273 Mon. vs Monmouth
Robert Morris 1- 9 3-15 299 Mon. vs Fairleigh Dickinson
Ohio Valley Conference
======================
Murray State 7- 1 13- 5 Mon. vs Tennessee State
Tennessee State 6- 3 9-10 Mon. at Murray State
Middle Tennessee State 5- 4 11- 8 Sat. at Tennessee State
Southeast Missouri State 5- 4 8-11 Mon. vs Eastern Kentucky
Eastern Kentucky 4- 5 10- 9 Mon. at SE Missouri State
Austin Peay State 4- 5 9- 9 Thu. at Samford
Tennessee-Martin 4- 5 8-10 Mon. vs Tennessee Tech
Tennessee Tech 3- 5 8- 9 Mon. at Tennessee-Martin
Morehead State 2- 8 7-13 Sat. at Murray State
Pacific Ten Conference
======================
UCLA 8- 1 15- 5 Thu. at California
Arizona 6- 3 16- 4 Wed. at Arizona State
Washington 6- 3 13- 5 Thu. vs Oregon
Stanford 6- 3 13- 5 Thu. vs Southern California
California 6- 3 12- 6 Thu. vs UCLA
Southern California 4- 5 11-10 Thu. at Stanford
Oregon 3- 6 10-10 Thu. at Washington
Arizona State 3- 6 8- 9 Wed. vs Arizona
Washington State 2- 7 9- 8 Thu. vs Oregon State
Oregon State 1- 8 3-15 Thu. at Washington State
Patriot League
==============
Bucknell 6- 1 14- 6 Wed. vs Army
Colgate 5- 1 9-12 Wed. at Holy Cross
Navy 5- 2 10-10 Wed. vs Lafayette
Holy Cross 3- 4 8-12 Mon. at Hartford
Army 2- 5 6-13 Wed. at Bucknell
Lafayette 2- 5 4-16 Wed. at Navy
Lehigh 1- 6 3-16 Tue. at Pennsylvania
Southeastern Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Kentucky 8- 0 18- 1 Wed. at Vanderbilt
South Carolina 5- 4 12- 6 Wed. at Auburn
Vanderbilt 4- 4 14- 7 Wed. vs Kentucky
Florida 4- 5 9-10 Wed. vs Tennessee
Georgia 3- 6 12- 7 Wed. at Louisiana State
Tennessee 3- 6 10- 9 Wed. at Florida
Western Division
----------------
Arkansas 6- 2 14- 6 Tue. at Mississippi State
Mississippi State 6- 4 14- 5 Tue. vs Arkansas
Alabama 5- 4 11- 7 Tue. at Southern Mississippi
Auburn 3- 5 15- 6 Wed. vs South Carolina
Louisiana State 3- 5 11- 9 Wed. vs Georgia
Mississippi 2- 7 7-11 Sat. vs Vanderbilt
Southern Conference
===================
Northern Division
-----------------
Davidson 7- 0 16- 3 Mon. at UT-Chattanooga
Marshall 4- 3 11- 7 Mon. at Western Carolina
East Tennessee State 3- 3 7-10 Mon. at Furman
Virginia Military 2- 3 9- 7 Mon. vs The Citadel
Appalachian State 1- 5 5-13 Mon. at Georgia Southern
Southern Division
-----------------
The Citadel 4- 3 9- 9 Mon. at Virginia Military
Furman 4- 3 8-11 Mon. vs East Tennessee State
Tennessee-Chattanooga 3- 3 9- 8 Mon. vs Davidson
Western Carolina 3- 3 6-11 Mon. vs Marshall
Georgia Southern 1- 6 2-16 Mon. vs Appalachian State
Southland Conference
====================
Texas-San Antonio 7- 2 9- 8 Thu. at Nicholls State
Northeast Louisiana 7- 3 8-11 Sat. at Northwestern State
Stephen F. Austin State 6- 4 11- 7 Thu. vs North Texas
McNeese State 6- 4 10- 7 Thu. vs Southwest Texas St.
Southwest Texas State 5- 5 9- 9 Thu. at McNeese State
Nicholls State 5- 5 5-13 Thu. vs Texas-San Antonio
North Texas 4- 5 6-11 Thu. at Stephen F. Austin
Texas-Arlington 3- 6 7-10 Thu. at Sam Houston State
Sam Houston State 3- 6 5-12 Thu. vs Texas-Arlington
Northwestern State 2- 8 4-14 Sat. vs Northeast Louisiana
Southwest Conference
====================
Texas Tech 7- 0 18- 1 Wed. vs Texas Christian
Texas 5- 2 12- 6 Wed. at Rice
Houston 5- 2 10- 8 Sat. vs Rice
Rice 3- 4 11- 8 Wed. vs Texas
Texas Christian 2- 4 11-10 Wed. at Texas Tech
Texas A&M 2- 5 10- 9 Tue. vs Baylor
Southern Methodist 2- 5 6-13 Sat. at Baylor
Baylor 1- 5 6-12 Tue. at Texas A&M
Southwestern Athletic Conference
================================
Mississippi Valley State 7- 1 16- 4 Mon. at Southern
Southern 5- 2 11- 7 Mon. vs Mississippi Valley
Jackson State 5- 3 9-12 Mon. at Prairie View A&M
Texas Southern 4- 4 9-11 Mon. vs Alabama State
Alabama State 4- 4 7-11 Mon. at Texas Southern
Alcorn State 4- 4 7-12 Mon. vs Grambling State
Grambling State 2- 5 7-12 Mon. at Alcorn State
Prairie View A&M 0- 8 4-17 Mon. vs Jackson State
Sun Belt Conference
===================
New Orleans 8- 3 12- 7 Thu. at Arkansas-Little Rock
Arkansas-Little Rock 7- 3 14- 4 Mon. at Jacksonville
Jacksonville 6- 4 10- 8 Mon. vs Arkansas-Little Rock
Southwestern Louisiana 5- 5 11- 7 Thu. vs South Alabama
Western Kentucky 5- 5 8-10 Mon. vs Arkansas State
Lamar 5- 6 10- 9 Thu. vs Western Kentucky
South Alabama 5- 6 10- 9 Thu. at SW Louisiana
Arkansas State 5- 6 7-12 Mon. at Western Kentucky
Texas-Pan American 4- 7 6-13 Thu. at Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech 3- 8 7-12 Wed. vs Jacksonville
Trans America Athletic Conference
=================================
Eastern Division
----------------
College of Charleston 9- 0 17- 2 Mon. vs Campbell
Campbell 5- 4 10- 9 Mon. at Charleston
Stetson 5- 5 9-11 Mon. vs Central Florida
Central Florida 4- 6 6-14 Mon. at Stetson
Florida International 3- 7 9-11 Mon. vs Jacksonville State
Florida Atlantic 3- 7 7-12 Mon. vs Samford
Western Division
----------------
Southeastern Louisiana 8- 1 12- 7 Mon. at Centenary
Samford 6- 4 11- 8 Mon. vs Florida Atlantic
Mercer 5- 5 11- 9 Mon. at Georgia State
Centenary 4- 4 7-11 Mon. vs SE Louisiana
Georgia State 3- 6 7-12 Mon. vs Mercer
Jacksonville State 2- 8 7-12 Mon. at Fla.International
West Coast Conference
=====================
Loyola Marymount 5- 3 15- 6 Thu. at Portland
Gonzaga 5- 3 14- 6 Thu. vs Pepperdine
Santa Clara 5- 3 14- 6 Fri. vs San Diego
San Fransisco 5- 3 12- 9 Fri. at St.Mary's
Portland 4- 4 13- 7 Thu. vs Loyola Marymount
St.Mary's 3- 5 10-10 Fri. vs San Fransisco
San Diego 3- 5 9-10 Fri. at Santa Clara
Pepperdine 2- 6 9-11 Thu. at Gonzaga
Western Athletic Conference
===========================
Utah 10- 1 18- 3 Sat. at Colorado State
Fresno State 8- 3 14- 7 Thu. at San Diego State
New Mexico 7- 4 17- 4 Sat. vs Texas-El Paso
Colorado State 7- 4 13- 7 Thu. vs Brigham Young
San Diego State 6- 4 12- 7 Thu. vs Fresno State
Brigham Young 6- 5 12- 8 Thu. at Colorado State
Wyoming 5- 6 11-10 Sat. vs Brigham Young
Hawaii 2- 8 5-13 Thu. vs Air Force
Texas-El Paso 2- 9 10-10 Sat. at New Mexico
Air Force 1-10 5-15 Thu. at Hawaii
Independents
============
Oral Roberts 8- 9 Tue. vs Cal State-Sacramento
Wofford 1-16 Tue. at Clemson
|
| 14.1557 | you the main!~ | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Mon Feb 05 1996 16:27 | 0 |
| 14.1558 | BU's chances of getting to the NCAA? | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Mon Feb 05 1996 16:38 | 5 |
|
How does the North Atlantic Conference pick their NCAA entry,
conference or season champ?
- Sean
|
| 14.1559 | Thought they'd pack the Hartford CC????? | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Marcus is back! | Mon Feb 05 1996 18:39 | 4 |
| Tournament, last year was in Hartford, I think. Used to be at the
homes of the higher seeds.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1560 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Feb 06 1996 16:38 | 3 |
| > Used to be at the homes of the higher seeds.
As should be the case in ALL CONFERENCE TOURNAMENTS !!
|
| 14.1561 | Georgetown/Villanova | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | | Wed Feb 07 1996 11:22 | 4 |
| I missed the Georgetown/Villanova result from two days
ago. How was the game?
Tony
|
| 14.1562 | | XTATIC::CHILDS | Cheatin' Cowboys suck!!! | Wed Feb 07 1996 11:34 | 23 |
|
If ever there was a year that these two have to meet this is the year!
UMass/UConn we got to have it!!!
With their loss over the weekend to NCS and yesterday to Marland, UNC should
move up to 5th in the polls.......
Somebody get Calibria a pacifer what a whinner. Wasn't it great that the last
UNC gaffe happened right in front of Dean. Speaking of Dean, if he was this
great coach that some would have us believe why isn't he able to win more
with all the second tier MCDonald All-Americians he has???????
Looks like Indiana is quietly turning into a good team. Kudos to Bob for
the improvement in his team from the start of the season until now. Brian
Evans just might 1 st team All-Americian if he can get some media attention.
Speaking of Evans do you think he'll make it at the next level or will he be
just another great college ballplayer who over-achieved under Bob? Ironic how
many great college players that never made in the pros that Bob has coach
compared to the number of pro players that did nothing in college while
playing for Dean.
mike
|
| 14.1563 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Feb 07 1996 11:35 | 4 |
| > I missed the Georgetown/Villanova result from two days
> ago. How was the game?
It was wonderful. Gougetown lost by something like 9 or 11.
|
| 14.1564 | | XTATIC::CHILDS | Cheatin' Cowboys suck!!! | Wed Feb 07 1996 11:41 | 4 |
|
That's one opinion Roland. It's not my opinion but.....
;^)
|
| 14.1565 | There isn't a shift operator big enough... | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Feb 07 1996 11:43 | 19 |
| > Speaking of Evans do you think he'll make it at the next level or will he be
> just another great college ballplayer who over-achieved under Bob?
I haven't seen much of Evans this year except for one game and a few
highlights. The guy literally does *everything*. But I can't figure out
whether he stands out because of talent, or because of superior fundamentals
at a level where most players don't have the talent to overcome a lack of
fundamentals. My guess is he'll be a solid role player in the pros.
Unfortunately, even if he *is* good enough to star in the pros, he probably
won't get a chance. You see, he just goes out there and gets the job done.
To play FantasticBall(tm), you have to try and jam every basket, pose for the
crowd after the basket while your opponent goes downcourt, talk trash to your
opponent, give crap to the referee, and in general, act like a reptile.
Because, after all, you're doing it for the kids out there.
Oh, and by the way:
Bob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dean
|
| 14.1566 | | XTATIC::CHILDS | Cheatin' Cowboys suck!!! | Wed Feb 07 1996 11:48 | 7 |
|
You mean like Barkley last night against the Bulls? For those that missed it
the Suns won, Sir Charles did have a great game but when victory was finally
secure the posing and wooping by Chuckles would have had one belive they just
won the championship. KJ went out hurt again in a big game.
mike
|
| 14.1567 | mixed | HBAHBA::HAAS | slightly related | Wed Feb 07 1996 13:27 | 7 |
| The guy from Iowa cheap shots a couple of guys from Penn State and gets a
three game pass.
Barkley cheap shots a couple of Bulls and gets the game ball. Go figger.
Shore am glad he aint no role model.
TTom
|
| 14.1568 | Gougetown-Nova review | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Marcus is back! | Wed Feb 07 1996 16:51 | 12 |
| Kinda disappointing Gougetown-Nova game the other night - only one
skirmish, and Jason Lawson was smart enough to back off, lessun he git
tossed for the rest o' the season, since he already has one fighting
charge under his belt. Ol' Bubicar (sp?) Aw made a big-time run at
Lawson, having a major hissy fit 'cuz Lawson touched his shoulder.
That's all it took. Aw had to be restrained by 3-4 guys while Lawson
just backed away.
As usual, Iverson took about 500 shots, actually made some of them, and
passed the ball twice.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1569 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Feb 07 1996 16:54 | 4 |
|
It appears that I need to trademark Gougetown(tm).
Nazz, you're starting to sound like 'Saw and Jerry on hockey... :-)
|
| 14.1570 | Went to a Gougetown game and a hockey game broke out | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Marcus is back! | Wed Feb 07 1996 17:00 | 3 |
| Is that a compliement? ;-)
NAZZ
|
| 14.1571 | Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | Extra low prices and hepatitis too!~ | Tue Feb 13 1996 13:24 | 26 |
| CNN/USA Today/Coaches: AP
1. Massachusetts 1. Massachusetts
2. Kentucky 2. Kentucky
3. Connecticut 3. Connecticut
4. Cincinnati 4. Villanova
5. Kansas 5. Kansas
6. Villanova 6. Cincinnati
7. Utah 7. Utah
8. Penn St 8. Wake Forest
9. Wake Forest 9. Penn St
10. Va Tech 10. Va Tech
11. Purdue 11. Purdue
12. Texas Tech 12. Texas Tech
13. Georgetown 13. Arizona
14. Memphis 14. Georgetown
15. Arizona 15. Memphis
16. Syracuse 16. Syracuse
17. No Carolina 17. No Carolina
18. UCLA 18. UCLA
19. Iowa 19. Iowa
20. Stanford 20. Stanford
21. Boston College 21. Boston College
22. E Michigan 22. Iowa St
23. Louisville 23. E Michigan
24. Iowa St 24. Louisville
25. Michigan 25. MIssissippi St
|
| 14.1572 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | From BK>>Dean to BK>>TO | Mon Feb 19 1996 18:06 | 468 |
| American West Conference Conf W- L RPI Next Game
======================== ==== ==== === =========
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 5- 0 14-10 251 Mon. at Cleveland State
Southern Utah 2- 2 12-12 222 Thu. at Cal State-Sacramento
Cal State-Northridge 2- 3 6-18 278 Sat. at Cal State-Sacramento
Cal State-Sacramento 0- 4 4-19 286 Thu. vs Southern Utah
Atlantic Coast Conference
=========================
Wake Forest 9- 3 17- 4 11 Wed. vs Clemson
Georgia Tech 9- 3 16-10 13 Wed. at Virginia
North Carolina 9- 4 18- 7 8 Thu. vs Virginia Military
Duke 6- 7 15-10 32 Thu. at Florida State
Maryland 5- 6 13- 9 25 Wed. at North Carolina State
Clemson 5- 7 15- 7 48 Wed. at Wake Forest
Virginia 5- 8 11-12 45 Wed. vs Georgia Tech
Florida State 4- 8 12-10 67 Thu. vs Duke
North Carolina State 3- 9 14-11 59 Wed. vs Maryland
Atlantic Ten Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Massachusetts 13- 0 25- 0 2 Tue. at Rhode Island
Temple 9- 4 13-11 39 Tue. at Pennsylvania
Rhode Island 7- 5 15- 8 91 Tue. vs Massachusetts
St.Joseph's 6- 6 11-10 105 Mon. at St.Bonaventure
St.Bonaventure 3- 9 8-14 141 Mon. vs St.Joseph's
Fordham 1-12 3-19 245 Tue. at Hofstra
Western Division
----------------
Virginia Tech 10- 2 19- 3 20 Thu. at LaSalle
George Washington 9- 2 16- 5 58 Wed. vs Duquesne
Xavier (Ohio) 5- 6 9-12 147 Tue. vs Dayton
Dayton 3- 8 12-11 149 Tue. at Xavier (Ohio)
Duquesne 3- 9 9-13 164 Wed. at George Washington
LaSalle 3- 9 6-19 169 Thu. vs Virginia Tech
Big East Conference
===================
Big East Seven
--------------
Georgetown 10- 4 21- 5 26 Mon. vs Connecticut
Syracuse 9- 5 19- 6 12 Tue. at Seton Hall
Providence 7- 8 14- 9 36 Wed. at Notre Dame
Seton Hall 6- 9 10-13 103 Tue. vs Syracuse
Miami (Florida) 5- 9 11-11 115 Tue. vs St.John's
Pittsburgh 4-10 9-13 108 Wed. vs Rutgers
Rutgers 4-10 7-15 133 Wed. at Pittsburgh
Big East Six
------------
Connecticut 14- 0 24- 1 6 Mon. at Georgetown
Villanova 13- 2 23- 3 3 Sun. vs Connecticut
Boston College 9- 5 16- 6 27 Wed. vs West Virginia
West Virginia 5-10 10-13 119 Wed. at Boston College
St.John's 4-10 10-12 75 Tue. at Miami (Florida)
Notre Dame 3-11 8-14 135 Wed. vs Providence
Big Eight Conference
====================
Kansas 9- 1 21- 2 4 Mon. vs Nebraska
Iowa State 7- 3 18- 6 14 Wed. at Oklahoma State
Missouri 6- 4 16- 9 65 Wed. at Kansas State
Kansas State 5- 5 14- 8 50 Wed. vs Missouri
Oklahoma 5- 5 14-10 37 Wed. vs Colorado
Nebraska 3- 7 15-10 57 Mon. at Kansas
Oklahoma State 3- 7 13- 9 55 Wed. vs Iowa State
Colorado 2- 8 8-14 126 Wed. at Oklahoma
Big Sky Conference
==================
Boise State 9- 2 13-10 157 Fri. at Montana State
Montana 7- 3 16- 6 97 Fri. vs Idaho State
Montana State 7- 3 14- 8 99 Fri. vs Boise State
Weber State 7- 4 16- 9 94 Thu. vs Eastern Washington
Idaho State 7- 4 11-11 241 Fri. at Montana
Idaho 4- 6 10-12 213 Thu. at Northern Arizona
Northern Arizona 1-10 4-18 297 Thu. vs Idaho
Eastern Washington 0-10 3-19 299 Thu. at Weber State
Big South Conference
====================
North Carolina-Greensboro 9- 3 15- 8 144 Mon. at UNC-Charlotte
North Carolina-Asheville 8- 4 16- 8 185 Wed. vs Winthrop
Liberty 8- 4 14-10 154 Mon. vs Coastal Carolina
Charleston Southern 8- 4 13-11 194 Mon. at Radford
Radford 7- 5 13-11 216 Mon. vs Charleston Southern
Winthrop 5- 7 6-17 287 Wed. at UNC-Asheville
Maryland-Baltimore County 2-10 4-19 295 Tue. vs Drexel
Coastal Carolina 1-11 5-17 291 Mon. at Liberty
Big Ten Conference
==================
Purdue 11- 2 21- 4 5 Tue. at Illinois
Penn State 9- 4 18- 4 7 Thu. vs Michigan
Indiana 8- 5 15-10 22 Sun. vs Purdue
Michigan State 8- 5 14-11 54 Wed. at Iowa
Iowa 7- 5 18- 6 21 Wed. vs Michigan State
Michigan 6- 6 16- 9 31 Thu. at Penn State
Minnesota 6- 6 14-10 63 Wed. vs Ohio State
Wisconsin 6- 6 14-10 46 Thu. vs Northwestern
Illinois 5- 7 16- 8 38 Tue. vs Purdue
Ohio State 2-11 9-13 125 Wed. at Minnesota
Northwestern 1-12 6-16 230 Thu. at Wisconsin
Big West Conference
===================
Cal-Irvine 9- 4 13- 8 177 Mon. at Nevada-Las Vegas
Long Beach State 10- 5 15- 9 129 Thu. vs Pacific
Nevada 8- 6 15- 9 112 Thu. at Cal State-Fullerton
Cal-Santa Barbara 8- 7 11-12 205 Thu. vs San Jose State
Utah State 7- 7 13-13 190 Thu. vs New Mexico State
Pacific 7- 7 11-11 195 Thu. at Long Beach State
San Jose State 6- 8 7-15 237 Thu. at Cal-Santa Barbara
New Mexico State 6- 9 9-14 226 Thu. at Utah State
Nevada-Las Vegas 5- 9 8-14 231 Mon. vs Cal-Irvine
Cal State-Fullerton 5- 9 6-16 227 Thu. vs Nevada
Colonial Athletic Association
=============================
Virginia Commonwealth 12- 2 19- 8 77 Wed. vs UNC-Wilmington
Old Dominion 10- 3 15-11 151 Wed. vs William and Mary
East Carolina 8- 5 15- 7 137 Mon. vs Wofford
North Carolina-Wilmington 7- 6 9-14 165 Wed. at Va.Commonwealth
American 6- 7 10-13 189 Wed. at Richmond
George Mason 6- 8 11-13 219 Sat. vs James Madison
William and Mary 5- 9 9-14 233 Tue. vs The Citadel
Richmond 3-10 7-16 215 Wed. vs American
James Madison 3-10 7-19 214 Wed. at East Carolina
Conference USA
==============
Blue Division
-------------
Cincinnati 8- 1 19- 2 9 Mon. at St.Louis
Marquette 7- 3 17- 5 33 Thu. vs UNC-Charlotte
St.Louis 3- 7 13- 9 84 Mon. vs Cincinnati
DePaul 0-11 7-16 120 Wed. vs Loyola (Illinois)
Red Division
------------
Tulane 8- 3 16- 6 44 Tue. at Florida Atlantic
Alabama-Birmingham 4- 6 14-11 96 Thu. vs South Florida
Southern Mississippi 4- 6 10-12 95 Tue. at Memphis
South Florida 1- 9 10-12 130 Wed. vs Bethune-Cookman
White Division
--------------
Louisville 9- 2 18- 7 19 Thu. vs Cincinnati
Memphis 8- 2 17- 5 23 Tue. vs Southern Mississippi
North Carolina-Charlotte 4- 6 11-12 47 Mon. vs UNC-Greensboro
Ivy League
==========
Princeton 8- 1 16- 5 80 Fri. vs Dartmouth
Pennsylvania 7- 2 12- 8 167 Tue. vs Temple
Dartmouth 7- 3 14- 8 155 Fri. at Princeton
Harvard 6- 4 14- 8 176 Fri. at Pennsylvania
Cornell 4- 6 8-13 244 Fri. at Brown
Brown 3- 7 8-14 220 Fri. vs Cornell
Yale 3- 7 8-14 271 Fri. vs Columbia
Columbia 1- 9 5-17 290 Fri. at Yale
Metro Atlantic Athletic Association
===================================
Iona 7- 3 17- 5 51 Mon. vs Fairfield
Fairfield 7- 3 15- 7 87 Mon. at Iona
Canisius 7- 4 16- 7 70 Mon. vs Loyola (Maryland)
Loyola (Maryland) 6- 4 9-12 168 Mon. at Canisius
Manhattan 7- 5 15-10 101 Fri. vs Niagara
Niagara 4- 7 10-13 199 Mon. vs Siena
St.Peter's 4- 8 14-10 122 Fri. at Canisius
Siena 1- 9 5-17 236 Mon. at Niagara
Mid-American Conference
=======================
Eastern Michigan 12- 2 19- 3 35 Wed. vs Miami (Ohio)
Ball State 9- 5 13- 9 123 Wed. at Bowling Green State
Ohio 9- 5 14-11 113 Wed. at Western Michigan
Western Michigan 9- 5 11-11 109 Wed. vs Ohio
Miami (Ohio) 8- 6 16- 6 104 Wed. at Eastern Michigan
Bowling Green State 8- 6 13- 9 106 Wed. vs Ball State
Toledo 7- 7 14-11 124 Wed. at Akron
Kent 6- 8 12-10 179 Wed. at Central Michigan
Central Michigan 2-12 5-17 249 Wed. vs Kent
Akron 0-14 3-19 269 Wed. vs Toledo
Mid-Continent Conference
========================
Valparaiso 10- 3 15- 8 140 Mon. at Buffalo
Buffalo 10- 5 13- 9 172 Mon. vs Valparaiso
Western Illinois 8- 5 11-10 211 Mon. vs NE Illinois
Eastern Illinois 7- 6 10-11 202 Mon. at Youngstown State
Northeastern Illinois 7- 7 11-12 252 Mon. at Western Illinois
Central Connecticut State 7- 7 10-12 234 Thu. vs Youngstown State
Missouri-Kansas City 6- 7 8-13 224 Mon. vs Chicago State
Troy State 6- 8 9-14 281 Thu. vs Buffalo
Youngstown State 6- 9 11-12 265 Mon. vs Eastern Illinois
Chicago State 2-12 2-20 300 Mon. at Missouri-Kansas City
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
===============================
South Carolina State 12- 1 17- 6 200 Mon. vs Coppin State
Coppin State 12- 1 15- 8 181 Mon. at South Carolina State
Delaware State 8- 7 9-15 279 Mon. at Florida A&M
North Carolina A&T 6- 6 8-13 262 Mon. vs Howard
Bethune-Cookman 6- 8 10-14 289 Mon. vs UM-Eastern Shore
Howard 5- 8 7-17 296 Mon. at North Carolina A&T
Maryland-Eastern Shore 5- 9 10-14 283 Mon. at Bethune-Cookman
Morgan State 5- 9 6-19 282 Wed. vs North Carolina A&T
Florida A&M 2-12 7-17 302 Mon. vs Delaware State
Hampton 0- 0 8-16 225 Wed. vs Coastal Carolina
Midwestern Collegiate Conference
================================
Wisconsin-Green Bay 13- 0 21- 2 17 Mon. vs Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Butler 11- 3 18- 6 86 Thu. at Detroit Mercy
Northern Illinois 8- 5 15- 8 139 Thu. at Cleveland State
Wright State 7- 7 13-11 114 Thu. vs Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Detroit Mercy 6- 7 14- 9 100 Thu. vs Butler
Illinois-Chicago 4- 9 8-15 177 Mon. at Loyola (Illinois)
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 4- 9 8-15 203 Mon. at Wisconsin-Green Bay
Loyola (Illinois) 4- 9 7-15 223 Mon. vs Illinois-Chicago
Cleveland State 3-11 5-18 263 Mon. vs Cal Poly-SLO
Missouri Valley Conference
==========================
Bradley 12- 3 17- 6 30 Wed. vs Evansville
Illinois State 12- 3 18- 8 71 Wed. vs Tulsa
Tulsa 9- 5 16- 6 52 Mon. vs Indiana State
Southwest Missouri State 8- 6 12-10 89 Mon. at Drake
Drake 8- 7 12-11 110 Mon. vs SW Missouri State
Creighton 8- 7 13-12 152 Wed. at Northern Iowa
Evansville 7- 8 11-12 132 Wed. at Bradley
Northern Iowa 6- 8 12-10 128 Mon. vs Wichita State
Southern Illinois 4-11 11-15 173 Wed. at Indiana State
Indiana State 4-11 8-15 228 Mon. at Tulsa
Wichita State 3-12 7-18 217 Mon. at Northern Iowa
North Atlantic Conference
=========================
Drexel 15- 1 20- 3 78 Tue. at UM-Baltimore County
Towson State 11- 5 15- 9 143 Wed. at Delaware
Maine 11- 5 14-10 187 Thu. at Boston University
Boston University 11- 5 14-10 153 Thu. vs Maine
Delaware 9- 7 13-11 192 Wed. vs Towson State
Vermont 9- 7 11-13 207 Fri. at Drexel
Hartford 5-11 5-19 275 Fri. at Hofstra
Hofstra 4-12 7-16 277 Tue. vs Fordham
New Hampshire 4-12 5-19 267 Thu. at Northeastern
Northeastern 1-15 2-22 292 Thu. vs New Hampshire
Northeast Conference
====================
Mount St.Mary's 13- 2 17- 6 81 Mon. at St.Francis (Pa.)
Marist 12- 3 19- 4 111 Mon. at Wagner
Monmouth 12- 3 15- 8 121 Mon. vs Fairleigh Dickinson
Rider 9- 6 14-10 118 Mon. at Robert Morris
St.Francis (Pennsylvania) 9- 6 11-12 159 Mon. vs Mount St.Mary's
Wagner 7- 8 10-13 232 Mon. vs Marist
Fairleigh Dickinson 6- 9 7-16 243 Mon. at Monmouth
Long Island-Brooklyn 3-12 6-17 270 Mon. vs St.Francis (N.Y.)
St.Francis (New York) 2-13 8-15 266 Mon. at LIU-Brooklyn
Robert Morris 2-13 4-19 294 Mon. vs Rider
Ohio Valley Conference
======================
Murray State 10- 2 16- 6 83 Mon. vs Tennessee Tech
Middle Tennessee State 8- 5 14- 9 156 Mon. vs Morehead State
Austin Peay State 8- 5 14- 9 170 Mon. vs Eastern Kentucky
Tennessee State 7- 5 10-12 162 Mon. vs SE Missouri State
Tennessee-Martin 7- 7 11-12 240 Wed. at St.Louis
Eastern Kentucky 6- 7 12-11 201 Mon. at Austin Peay State
Tennessee Tech 5- 7 10-12 238 Mon. at Murray State
Southeast Missouri State 5- 9 8-16 256 Mon. at Tennessee State
Morehead State 2-11 7-16 268 Mon. at Middle Tennessee St.
Pacific Ten Conference
======================
UCLA 11- 2 18- 6 15 Thu. at Southern California
Stanford 9- 4 16- 6 34 Thu. vs Washington State
Arizona 8- 4 19- 5 10 Thu. vs Oregon
California 8- 5 14- 8 60 Thu. vs Washington
Washington 7- 5 14- 7 73 Thu. at California
Oregon 6- 7 13-11 72 Thu. at Arizona
Washington State 5- 7 13- 8 64 Thu. at Stanford
Arizona State 4- 8 9-12 142 Thu. vs Oregon State
Southern California 4- 9 11-14 69 Thu. vs UCLA
Oregon State 1-12 3-19 183 Thu. at Arizona State
Patriot League
==============
Bucknell 8- 2 16- 8 184 Wed. at Lafayette
Navy 8- 3 13-11 229 Sat. vs Lehigh
Colgate 7- 3 11-14 180 Wed. vs Army
Holy Cross 6- 4 12-12 254 Wed. vs Lehigh
Lafayette 3- 7 6-18 285 Wed. vs Bucknell
Lehigh 2- 8 4-20 301 Wed. at Holy Cross
Army 2- 9 6-18 305 Wed. at Colgate
Southeastern Conference
=======================
Eastern Division
----------------
Kentucky 12- 0 22- 1 1 Tue. vs Alabama
Vanderbilt 6- 6 16- 9 49 Wed. at Georgia
South Carolina 6- 6 14- 8 40 Wed. vs Florida
Florida 5- 7 14- 8 43 Wed. vs Vanderbilt
Georgia 5- 7 10-12 53 Wed. at South Carolina
Tennessee 4- 8 11-11 56 Wed. vs Arkansas
Western Division
----------------
Arkansas 8- 4 16- 8 29 Wed. at Tennessee
Mississippi State 7- 5 16- 6 28 Wed. vs Louisiana State
Alabama 7- 5 14- 8 61 Tue. at Kentucky
Auburn 5- 7 17- 8 92 Wed. vs Mississippi
Mississippi 4- 8 10-12 134 Wed. at Auburn
Louisiana State 3- 9 11-13 107 Wed. at Mississippi State
Southern Conference
===================
Northern Division
-----------------
Davidson 11- 0 20- 3 90 Mon. vs Virginia Military
Virginia Military 8- 3 15- 7 158 Mon. at Davidson
Marshall 7- 5 15- 9 141 Mon. vs East Tennessee State
East Tennessee State 3- 8 7-15 250 Mon. at Marshall
Appalachian State 3- 9 7-17 247 Mon. vs UT-Chattanooga
Southern Division
-----------------
Western Carolina 7- 4 11-12 235 Mon. vs Georgia Southern
Tennessee-Chattanooga 6- 5 12-10 210 Mon. at Appalachian State
The Citadel 5- 6 10-12 258 Mon. at Furman
Furman 5- 7 9-15 264 Mon. vs The Citadel
Georgia Southern 2-10 3-21 304 Mon. at Western Carolina
Southland Conference
====================
Texas-San Antonio 11- 3 12-10 163 Mon. vs Texas-Arlington
Northeast Louisiana 9- 4 10-12 198 Mon. vs Stephen F. Austin
McNeese State 10- 5 14- 8 161 Thu. vs Stephen F. Austin
Stephen F. Austin State 8- 5 13- 8 188 Mon. at Northeast Louisiana
North Texas 8- 5 10-11 212 Mon. at Southwest Texas St.
Southwest Texas State 6- 8 10-12 260 Mon. vs North Texas
Nicholls State 5-10 5-18 274 Thu. vs Sam Houston State
Texas-Arlington 4- 9 8-13 272 Mon. at Texas-San Antonio
Sam Houston State 4- 9 6-15 261 Mon. at Northwestern State
Northwestern State 3-10 5-16 288 Mon. vs Sam Houston State
Southwest Conference
====================
Texas Tech 11- 0 22- 1 18 Tue. vs Southern Methodist
Texas 9- 2 16- 6 41 Wed. at Baylor
Houston 7- 3 13- 9 76 Wed. at Texas A&M
Rice 5- 6 13-10 102 Wed. vs Texas CHristian
Baylor 3- 7 8-14 208 Wed. vs Texas
Texas A&M 3- 8 11-12 146 Wed. vs Houston
Texas Christian 2- 8 11-14 98 Wed. at Rice
Southern Methodist 2- 8 6-16 209 Tue. at Texas Tech
Southwestern Athletic Conference
================================
Mississippi Valley State 9- 3 18- 6 193 Mon. vs Alabama State
Jackson State 9- 3 13-12 175 Mon. vs Grambling State
Southern 7- 4 13-10 182 Mon. at Prairie View A&M
Grambling State 6- 5 11-12 276 Mon. at Jackson State
Texas Southern 6- 6 11-13 255 Mon. vs Alcorn State
Alabama State 5- 7 8-15 293 Mon. at Mississippi Valley
Alcorn State 5- 7 8-15 284 Mon. at Texas Southern
Prairie View A&M 0-12 4-20 303 Mon. vs Southern
Sun Belt Conference
===================
Arkansas-Little Rock 11- 4 18- 5 66 Tue. vs SW Louisiana
New Orleans 11- 4 15- 8 68 Mon. at Louisiana Tech
Jacksonville 9- 6 13-10 148 Mon. vs Texas-Pan American
Western Kentucky 9- 6 12-11 116 Tue. vs Lamar
Southwestern Louisiana 8- 7 14- 9 136 Tue. at Arkansas-Little Rock
Arkansas State 7- 9 9-15 197 Thu. at Texas-Pan American
Lamar 6- 9 11-12 191 Tue. at Western Kentucky
South Alabama 6-10 11-13 204 Thu. vs Arkansas-Little Rock
Louisiana Tech 5-10 9-14 218 Mon. vs New Orleans
Texas-Pan American 4-11 6-17 257 Mon. at Jacksonville
Trans America Athletic Conference
=================================
Eastern Division
----------------
College of Charleston 14- 0 22- 2 62 Thu. at SE Louisiana
Campbell 9- 5 14-10 186 Thu. at Centenary
Central Florida 6- 8 8-16 239 Thu. at Fla.International
Florida International 5- 9 11-13 248 Thu. vs Central Florida
Stetson 5- 9 9-15 253 Thu. at Florida Atlantic
Florida Atlantic 3-11 7-17 280 Tue. vs Tulane
Western Division
----------------
Southeastern Louisiana 11- 3 15- 9 206 Thu. vs Charleston
Centenary 8- 5 11-12 242 Mon. at Georgia State
Samford 8- 6 13-11 174 Thu. at Mercer
Mercer 6- 8 12-12 221 Thu. vs Samford
Georgia State 4- 9 8-15 259 Mon. vs Centenary
Jacksonville State 4-10 9-15 246 Thu. at Georgia State
West Coast Conference
=====================
Santa Clara 9- 3 18- 6 24 Thu. at Portland
Gonzaga 9- 3 18- 6 79 Thu. vs St.Mary's
Loyola Marymount 7- 5 17- 8 93 Fri. vs San Diego
San Fransisco 7- 5 14-11 88 Fri. at Pepperdine
Portland 6- 6 15- 9 117 Thu. vs Santa Clara
St.Mary's 4- 8 11-13 150 Thu. at Gonzaga
San Diego 4- 8 10-13 166 Fri. at Loyola Marymount
Pepperdine 2-10 9-15 196 Fri. vs San Fransisco
Western Athletic Conference
===========================
Utah 13- 2 21- 4 16 Thu. at Fresno State
Fresno State 10- 4 16- 8 82 Thu. vs Utah
New Mexico 9- 4 19- 4 42 Mon. vs Colorado State
Colorado State 9- 5 15- 8 74 Mon. at New Mexico
Brigham Young 8- 7 14-10 85 Thu. at Air Force
San Diego State 7- 7 13-10 160 Thu. vs New Mexico
Wyoming 6- 9 12-13 127 Sat. at Colorado State
Hawaii 5- 9 8-14 145 Thu. vs Texas-El Paso
Texas-El Paso 3-11 11-12 138 Thu. at Hawaii
Air Force 1-13 5-18 273 Thu. vs Brigham Young
Independents
============
Oral Roberts 13- 9 171 Wed. vs Huston-Tillotson
Wofford 3-19 298 Mon. at East Carolina
|
| 14.1573 | My best guess at this point as to 64 NCAA bids ... | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | From BK>>Dean to BK>>TO | Mon Feb 19 1996 18:50 | 66 |
| Kentucky 12- 0 22- 1 1 Tue. vs Alabama
Massachusetts 13- 0 25- 0 2 Tue. at Rhode Island
Kansas 9- 1 21- 2 4 Mon. vs Nebraska
Purdue 11- 2 21- 4 5 Tue. at Illinois
Connecticut 14- 0 24- 1 6 Mon. at Georgetown
Wake Forest 9- 3 17- 4 11 Wed. vs Clemson
UCLA 11- 2 18- 6 15 Thu. at Southern California
Utah 13- 2 21- 4 16 Thu. at Fresno State
Wisconsin-Green Bay 13- 0 21- 2 17 Mon. vs Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Texas Tech 11- 0 22- 1 18 Tue. vs Southern Methodist
Santa Clara 9- 3 18- 6 24 Thu. at Portland
Bradley 12- 3 17- 6 30 Wed. vs Evansville
Eastern Michigan 12- 2 19- 3 35 Wed. vs Miami (Ohio)
Iona 7- 3 17- 5 51 Mon. vs Fairfield
Arkansas-Little Rock 11- 4 18- 5 66 Tue. vs SW Louisiana
Virginia Commonwealth 12- 2 19- 8 77 Wed. vs UNC-Wilmington
Drexel 15- 1 20- 3 78 Tue. at UM-Baltimore County
Princeton 8- 1 16- 5 80 Fri. vs Dartmouth
Mount St.Mary's 13- 2 17- 6 81 Mon. at St.Francis (Pa.)
Murray State 10- 2 16- 6 83 Mon. vs Tennessee Tech
Davidson 11- 0 20- 3 90 Mon. vs Virginia Military
Montana 7- 3 16- 6 97 Fri. vs Idaho State
Nevada 8- 6 15- 9 112 Thu. at Cal State-Fullerton
Valparaiso 10- 3 15- 8 140 Mon. at Buffalo
Liberty 8- 4 14-10 154 Mon. vs Coastal Carolina
Texas-San Antonio 11- 3 12-10 163 Mon. vs Texas-Arlington
Bucknell 8- 2 16- 8 184 Wed. at Lafayette
Campbell 9- 5 14-10 186 Thu. at Centenary
Mississippi Valley State 9- 3 18- 6 193 Mon. vs Alabama State
South Carolina State 12- 1 17- 6 200 Mon. vs Coppin State
---30 automatic bids, sorted by current RPI
Villanova 13- 2 23- 3 3 Sun. vs Connecticut
Penn State 9- 4 18- 4 7 Thu. vs Michigan
North Carolina 9- 4 18- 7 8 Thu. vs Virginia Military
Cincinnati 8- 1 19- 2 9 Mon. at St.Louis
Arizona 8- 4 19- 5 10 Thu. vs Oregon
Syracuse 9- 5 19- 6 12 Tue. at Seton Hall
Georgia Tech 9- 3 16-10 13 Wed. at Virginia
Iowa State 7- 3 18- 6 14 Wed. at Oklahoma State
Louisville 9- 2 18- 7 19 Thu. vs Cincinnati
Virginia Tech 10- 2 19- 3 20 Thu. at LaSalle
Iowa 7- 5 18- 6 21 Wed. vs Michigan State
Indiana 8- 5 15-10 22 Sun. vs Purdue
Memphis 8- 2 17- 5 23 Tue. vs Southern Mississippi
Maryland 5- 6 13- 9 25 Wed. at North Carolina State
Georgetown 10- 4 21- 5 26 Mon. vs Connecticut
Boston College 9- 5 16- 6 27 Wed. vs West Virginia
Mississippi State 7- 5 16- 6 28 Wed. vs Louisiana State
Arkansas 8- 4 16- 8 29 Wed. at Tennessee
Michigan 6- 6 16- 9 31 Thu. at Penn State
Duke 6- 7 15-10 32 Thu. at Florida State
Marquette 7- 3 17- 5 33 Thu. vs UNC-Charlotte
Stanford 9- 4 16- 6 34 Thu. vs Washington State
Providence 7- 8 14- 9 36 Wed. at Notre Dame
Temple 9- 4 13-11 39 Tue. at Pennsylvania
South Carolina 6- 6 14- 8 40 Wed. vs Florida
Texas 9- 2 16- 6 41 Wed. at Baylor
New Mexico 9- 4 19- 4 42 Mon. vs Colorado State
Tulane 8- 3 16- 6 44 Tue. at Florida Atlantic
Kansas State 5- 5 14- 8 50 Wed. vs Missouri
Michigan State 8- 5 14-11 54 Wed. at Iowa
George Washington 9- 2 16- 5 58 Wed. vs Duquesne
California 8- 5 14- 8 60 Thu. vs Washington
College of Charleston 14- 0 22- 2 62 Thu. at SE Louisiana
Missouri 6- 4 16- 9 65 Wed. at Kansas State
|
| 14.1574 | fer grins | HBAHBA::HAAS | Extra low prices and hepatitis too!~ | Wed Feb 21 1996 15:49 | 28 |
| For grins, here's ol' Jeff Sagarins Top 25 sort, with the other data so
graceiously supplied:
1. Kentucky 12- 0 22- 1 1
2. Connecticut 14- 0 24- 1 6
3. Massachusetts 13- 0 25- 0 2
4. Cincinnati 8- 1 19- 2 9
5. Villanova 13- 2 23- 3 3
6. Kansas 9- 1 21- 2 4
7. Penn State 9- 4 18- 4 7
8. North Carolina 9- 4 18- 7 8
9. Purdue 11- 2 21- 4 5
10. Wake Forest 9- 3 17- 4 11
11. Utah 13- 2 21- 4 16
12. Iowa 7- 5 18- 6 21
13. Boston College 9- 5 16- 6 27
14. Georgetown 10- 4 21- 5 26
15. Syracuse 9- 5 19- 6 12
16. Arizona 8- 4 19- 5 10
17. UCLA 11- 2 18- 6 15
18. Georgia (aint got no data)
19. Indiana 8- 5 15-10 22
20. Georgia Tech 9- 3 16-10 13
21. Stanford 9- 4 16- 6 34
22. Memphis 8- 2 17- 5 23
23. Texas Tech 11- 0 22- 1 18
24. Duke 6- 7 15-10 32
25. Michigan 12- 2 19- 3 35
|
| 14.1575 | Seems reasonable to me.... | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass will run the table - 38-0! | Wed Feb 21 1996 19:25 | 21 |
| Here's my early prediction for who's going where in the tourney:
EAST SOUTHEAST MIDWEST WEST
1. UMass 1. UConn 1. Kentucky 1. Kansas
2. Wake Forest 2. Cincinnati 2. Villanova 2. Utah
3. Penn. State 3. Va. Tech 3. Purdue 3. Arizona
4. Georgia Tech 4. Texas Tech 4. North Car. 4. Georgetown
5. Syracuse 5. Memphis 5. Iowa 5. UCLA
6. Mississippi St. 6. B.C. 6. Stanford 6. Iowa State
7. Bradley 7. Michigan 7. Louisville 7. Indiana
8. Marquette 8. Arkansas 8. California 8. Santa Clara
9. Washington 9. Wisc.-GB 9. Eastern Mich. 9. New Mexico
10. George Wash. 10. Duke 10. Maryland 10. Tulsa
11. Texas 11. Missouri 11. Vanderbilt 11. South Carolina
12. VCU 12. Alabama 12. Kansas St. 12. New Orleans
13. Iona 13. Charleston 13. Ark.-LR 13. Montana
14. Drexel 14. Marist 14. Murray St. 14. Nevada
15. Princeton 15. NC-Greensboro 15. Valparaiso 15. Davidson
16. Bucknell 16. So. Caro. St. 16. Miss. Valley 16. Texas-S.A.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1576 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Feb 21 1996 19:34 | 16 |
| Nazz, in your bracket you have a Wake/Princeton first-round game. That would
be too excellent...
I think SU will be a #4 seed and not a #5 - I'd also move G'town up a notch,
too. (I think both will do well in the Big East tournament.) By the time
the tournament comes around, Penn St. will have tumbled further.
Glad to see you think Indiana is in. I think they should get a bid as long
as Bob Knight is their coach, regardless of record... :-)
Has Iona ever been to the NCAAs? Did they go when Jimmy V coached them
(with Jeff Ruland as the star)?
Remember when ESPN used to cover the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament,
and they showed *everything*. I used to take one, and sometimes two, of the
days off and just hoop out... You got to see all the "hyphen" schools play...
|
| 14.1577 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Wed Feb 21 1996 19:41 | 16 |
|
> I think SU will be a #4 seed and not a #5 - I'd also move G'town up a notch,
> too. (I think both will do well in the Big East tournament.) By the time
> the tournament comes around, Penn St. will have tumbled further.
Not with the remaining soft schedule. Penn St should finish 2nd in
the Big-10, probably at 13-5, 22-5 (12-6, 21-6 at worst).
> Glad to see you think Indiana is in. I think they should get a bid as long
> as Bob Knight is their coach, regardless of record... :-)
Indiana's 8-5 and third in the Big-10, pretty much a no-brainer unless
they fall apart, regardless of Knight...
glenn
|
| 14.1578 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Can the Coach... | Wed Feb 21 1996 19:46 | 7 |
|
Uconn might drop down to a #2 with this weeks loss, giving
Cincinnatti the other #1 seed. Remember add 1 loss to every BE
school, except the tournament winner. So Georetown, SU, BC, and
Villanova are right where they will end up in the bracket.
Ron
|
| 14.1579 | I like it | HBAHBA::HAAS | Extra low prices and hepatitis too!~ | Thu Feb 22 1996 13:05 | 8 |
| Main, Nazz has 5, count 'em, five (5) ACC teams there. The dark horse of
the bunch has to be Duke which, IMHO, needs a couple of wins in the
conference tourney.
Iona was in the big dance with Jimmy V at the helm and Ruland in the
middle, carrying the team.
TTom
|
| 14.1580 | | CAM::WAY | There's the devil to pay! | Thu Feb 22 1996 13:22 | 11 |
|
Oh the guy from Indiana wears a sweater on his back
And he'll grab a chair, or part you're hair if you give him
any flack....
I like that commercial. All those Goulet commercials are pretty funny....
'Saw
|
| 14.1581 | "I smell platinum..." <sniff> | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Feb 22 1996 13:32 | 0 |
| 14.1582 | Boston bias ? | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Thu Feb 22 1996 16:53 | 8 |
| >For grins, here's ol' Jeff Sagarins Top 25 sort, with the other data so
>13. Boston College 9- 5 16- 6 27
>14. Georgetown 10- 4 21- 5 26
>15. Syracuse 9- 5 19- 6 12
"for grins" is right. I'd love to hear what part of his formula gives
BC such high grades. They haven't beaten a ranked team all year and
have HOME losses to sub-.500 teams PC and W Vir.
|
| 14.1583 | Umass Losses | FABSIX::J_PAGE | | Sat Feb 24 1996 17:43 | 4 |
|
George Washington 86
- Final
Umass 76
|
| 14.1584 | some gooduns | HBAHBA::HAAS | Extra low prices and hepatitis too!~ | Mon Feb 26 1996 13:46 | 14 |
| Of course UMass wasn't the onliest big name to fall...
Duke beats UCLA which makes Nazz smart cuase he picked 'em to be in the
show.
Temple beats Va Tech, holding 'em to 41 points, total.
Florida St beats No Carolina at the Dean Dome.
Wake loses to Virginia and fails to hit 50.
Cincinnati lost to Louisville who lost to Memphis.
TTom
|
| 14.1585 | Davidson finishes undefeated in conference | HBAHBA::HAAS | Extra low prices and hepatitis too!~ | Tue Feb 27 1996 15:11 | 16 |
| In some local news, Davidson held off Furman lasted night to win 88-79 in
OT. That completed a_undefeated Southern Conference season for the Cats
at 14-0, 23-3 overall.
Davidson was down most of the game including 10 points midway through the
seconded half.
By consensus, most of the credit is going to the coach, Bob McKillop who
came in a couple of years ago and took a laugher to the top of the
conference.
I guess you could make the case that 23-3 should put them in the show but
the caliber of teams in the Southern Conference prolly means that
Davidson still needs to win the tourney for a berth.
TTom
|
| 14.1586 | Naismith finalists | HBAHBA::HAAS | Extra low prices and hepatitis too!~ | Wed Feb 28 1996 16:03 | 14 |
| Finalist for the Naismith award were announced:
Ray Allen, Connecticut
Marcus Camby, Massachusetts
Tony Delk, Kentucky
Tim Duncan, Wake Forest
Allen Iverson, Georgetown
Kerry Kittles, Villanova
Keith Van Horn, Utah
Jacque Vaugh, Kansas
John Wallace, Syracuse
Lorenzon Wright, Memphis
TTom
|
| 14.1587 | | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Wed Feb 28 1996 19:09 | 9 |
| re: 1585
Who were Davidson's three losses against?
Do they have any significant wins outside their conference?
I read they barely beat Div. 3 Williams at home just before Christmas.
If that is any indication they will need to win the Southern Conference
Tourney to get a NCAA bid.
|
| 14.1588 | close | HBAHBA::HAAS | Extra low prices and hepatitis too!~ | Thu Feb 29 1996 12:54 | 5 |
| The onliest one I can think of is the Pack.
They do that UMass thing and let the other guys play close.
TTom
|
| 14.1589 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Feb 29 1996 13:01 | 19 |
| > Who were Davidson's three losses against?
>
> Do they have any significant wins outside their conference?
Davidson non-conference results
-------------------------------
Davidson 91, Rhodes 46
Davidson 84, Mississippi 83
Davidson 101, Catholic 59
North Carolina-Wilmington 73, Davidson 56
North Carolina State 84, Davidson 80
Davidson 96, Fairleigh Dickinson 56
Davidson 93, Williams 87
Davidson 90, Central Florida 51
Michigan 82, Davidson 70
Davidson 93, Lafayette 68
Davidson 87, Navy 58
Davidson 56, North Carolina-Charlotte 47
|
| 14.1590 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Feb 29 1996 13:14 | 1 |
| ...but that was the toughest Navy team they've ever faced!
|
| 14.1591 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Feb 29 1996 14:13 | 140 |
| Last night Division I conference tournament action began.
Northeast Conference:
2/28- Long Island-Brooklyn 82, St.Francis (New York) 63
Robert Morris 68, Fairleigh Dickinson 66
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other conference tournaments are set as:
Big South Conference
Vines Center, Lynchburg, Virginia
---------------------------------
2/29- North Carolina-Greensboro (11-3, 17-9) vs Coastal Carolina (1-13, 5-20)
Charleston Southern (9-5, 14-12) vs Radford (8-6, 14-12)
Liberty (9-5, 15-11) vs Maryland-Baltimore County (3-11, 5-21)
North Carolina-Asheville (9-5, 17-9) vs Winthrop (6-8, 7-18)
Colonial Athletic Association
Richmond Coliseum, Richmond, Virginia
-------------------------------------
3/1- George Mason (6-10, 11-15) vs Richmond (3-13, 7-19)
3/2- Virginia Commonwealth (14-2, 21-8) vs George Mason or Richmond
American (8-8, 12-14) vs East Carolina (8-8, 16-10)
Old Dominion (12-4, 17-12) vs James Madison (6-10, 10-19)
North Carolina-Wilmington (9-7, 11-15) vs William and Mary (6-10, 10-15)
Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, New York
-------------------------------------
3/2- Iona (10-4, 20-6) vs Siena (1-13, 5-21)
Loyola MD (8-6, 11-15) vs Canisius (7-7, 16-10)
Fairfield (10-4, 18-8) vs St.Peter's (5-9, 15-11)
Manhattan (9-5, 17-10) vs Niagara (6-8, 12-14)
Mideastern Athletic Conference
Tallahassee-Leon County Civic Center, Tallahassee, Florida
----------------------------------------------------------
2/29- South Carolina State (14-2, 19-7) vs Florida A&M (3-13, 8-18)
Bethune-Cookman (8-8, 12-14) vs North Carolina A&T (7-9, 9-16)
Coppin State (14-2, 17-9) vs Howard (6-10, 7-19)
Delaware State (8-8, 10-16) vs Maryland-Eastern Shore (6-10, 11-15)
Missouri Valley Conference
Kiel Center, St.Louis, Missouri
-------------------------------
3/2- Bradley (15-3, 20-6) vs Drake (8-10, 12-14)
Southwest Missouri State (11-7, 15-11) vs Creighton (9-9, 14-14)
Illinois State (13-5, 19-10) vs Northern Iowa (8-10, 14-12)
Tulsa (12-6, 19-7) vs Evansville (9-9, 13-13)
North Atlantic Conference
Bob Carpenter Center, Newark, Delaware
--------------------------------------
3/1- New Hampshire (5-13, 6-20) vs Hartford (5-13, 5-21)
Hofstra (5-13, 9-17) vs Northeastern (2-16, 3-23)
3/2- Drexel (17-1, 23-3) vs New Hampshire or Hartford
Delaware (11-7, 15-11) vs Towson State (11-7, 15-11)
Boston University (13-5, 16-10) vs Hofstra or Northeastern
Maine (11-7, 14-12) vs Vermont (10-8, 12-14)
Northeast Conference
Games played at site of higher seeded team
------------------------------------------
3/1- Mount St. Mary's (16-2, 20-6) vs Long Island-Brooklyn (5-13, 9-18)
Rider (12-6, 17-10) vs St.Francis PA (11-7, 13-13)
Marist (14-4, 21-5) vs Robert Morris (2-16, 5-22)
Monmouth (14-4, 17-9) vs Wagner (7-11, 10-16)
Ohio Valley Conference
Municipal Auditorium, Nashville, Tennessee
------------------------------------------
2/29- Murray State (12-4, 18-8), bye
Middle Tennessee State (9-7, 15-11) vs Tennessee Tech (7-9, 12-14)
Tennessee State (11-5, 14-12) vs Morehead State (2-14, 7-19)
Austin Peay State (10-6, 16-10) vs Eastern Kentucky (7-9, 13-13)
Patriot League
Hart Center, Worcester, Massachusetts
-------------------------------------
3/2- Colgate (9-3, 13-14), bye
Bucknell (8-4, 16-10) vs Lafayette (4-8, 7-19)
Navy (9-3, 15-11) vs Army (2-10, 6-19)
Holy Cross (8-4, 14-12) vs Lehigh (2-10, 4-22)
Southern Conference
Greensboro Coliseum, Greensboro, North Carolina
-----------------------------------------------
2/29- The Citadel (5-9, 10-15) vs Appalachian State (3-11, 7-19)
3/1- Davidson (14-0, 23-3) vs East Tennessee State (3-11, 7-19)
Tennessee-Chattanooga (9-5, 15-11) vs Marshall (8-6, 16-10)
Western Carolina (10-4, 14-12) vs The Citadel or Appalachian State
Virginia Military (10-4, 17-9) vs Furman (6-8, 10-16)
Southwestern Athletic Conference
Joe Reed Acadome, Montgomery, Alabama
-------------------------------------
3/7- Southern (8-5, 15-11) vs Prairie View A&M (0-14, 4-22)
Alcorn State (7-7, 10-15) vs Grambling State (6-7, 11-14)
3/8- Jackson State (11-3, 15-12) vs Alcorn State or Grambling State
Mississippi Valley State (11-3, 20-6) vs Southern or Prairie View A&M
Sun Belt Conference
Barton Coliseum, Little Rock, Arkansas
--------------------------------------
3/1- Arkansas State (7-11, 9-17) vs Louisiana Tech (6-12, 10-16)
South Alabama 7-11, 12-14) vs Texas-Pan American (6-12, 8-18)
3/2- New Orleans (14-4, 18-8) vs Arkansas State or Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky (10-8, 13-13) vs Southwestern Louisiana (9-9, 15-11)
Arkansas-Little Rock (14-4, 21-5) vs South Alabama or Texas-Pan American
Jacksonville (10-8, 14-12) vs Lamar (7-11, 12-14)
Trans America Athletic Conference
Edmunds Activity Center, DeLand, Florida
----------------------------------------
2/29- Samford (11-5, 16-10) vs Florida International (6-10, 12-14)
Centenary (8-8, 11-15) vs Mercer (7-9, 13-13)
Southeastern Louisiana (11-5, 15-11) vs Central Florida (6-10, 8-18)
Campbell (11-5, 16-10) vs Stetson (6-10, 10-16)
West Coast Conference
Toso Pavilion, Santa Clara, California
--------------------------------------
3/2- Santa Clara (10-4, 19-7) vs Pepperdine (2-12, 9-17)
San Fransisco (8-6, 15-12) vs Portland (7-7, 16-10)
Gonzaga (10-4, 19-7) vs St.Mary's (5-9, 12-14)
Loyola Marymount (8-6, 18-10) vs San Diego (6-8, 13-13)
|
| 14.1592 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Feb 29 1996 14:17 | 4 |
| >North Atlantic Conference
>Bob Carpenter Center, Newark, Delaware
Must be a hockey rink, too...
|
| 14.1593 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 01 1996 14:05 | 153 |
| Last night:
Big South Conference:
North Carolina-Greensboro 78, Coastal Carolina 67
Liberty 74, Maryland-Baltimore County 52
North Carolina-Asheville 69, Winthrop 61
Charleston Southern 55, Radford 52
Mideastern Athletic Conference:
South Carolina State 79, Florida A&M 58
Coppin State 83, Howard 69
Delaware State 59, Maryland-Eastern Shore 56
North Carolina A&T 75, Bethune-Cookman 74
Ohio Valley Conference:
Tennessee State 71, Morehead State 60
Austin Peay State 89, Eastern Kentucky 67
Tennessee Tech 89, Middle Tennessee State 69
Southern Conference:
Appalachian State 75, The Citadel 73
Trans America Athletic Conference:
Florida International 58, Samford 55 OT
Central Florida 83, Southeastern Louisiana 80
Campbell 67, Stetson 59
Mercer 72, Centenary 61
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Conference tournament pairings for this weekend:
Big South Conference
Vines Center, Lynchburg, Virginia
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3/1- No.Carolina-Greensboro (11-3, 18-9) vs Charleston Southern (9-5, 15-12)
Liberty (9-5, 16-11) vs North Carolina-Asheville (9-5, 18-9)
Colonial Athletic Association
Richmond Coliseum, Richmond, Virginia
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3/1- George Mason (6-10, 11-15) vs Richmond (3-13, 7-19)
3/2- Virginia Commonwealth (14-2, 21-8) vs George Mason or Richmond
American (8-8, 12-14) vs East Carolina (8-8, 16-10)
Old Dominion (12-4, 17-12) vs James Madison (6-10, 10-19)
North Carolina-Wilmington (9-7, 11-15) vs William and Mary (6-10, 10-15)
Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, New York
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3/2- Iona (10-4, 20-6) vs Siena (1-13, 5-21)
Loyola MD (8-6, 11-15) vs Canisius (7-7, 16-10)
Fairfield (10-4, 18-8) vs St.Peter's (5-9, 15-11)
Manhattan (9-5, 17-10) vs Niagara (6-8, 12-14)
Mideastern Athletic Conference
Gaither Gymnasium, Tallahassee, Florida
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3/1- South Carolina State (14-2, 20-7) vs North Carolina A&T (7-9, 10-16)
Coppin State (14-2, 18-9) vs Delaware State (8-8, 11-16)
Missouri Valley Conference
Kiel Center, St.Louis, Missouri
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3/2- Bradley (15-3, 20-6) vs Drake (8-10, 12-14)
Southwest Missouri State (11-7, 15-11) vs Creighton (9-9, 14-14)
Illinois State (13-5, 19-10) vs Northern Iowa (8-10, 14-12)
Tulsa (12-6, 19-7) vs Evansville (9-9, 13-13)
North Atlantic Conference
Bob Carpenter Center, Newark, Delaware
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3/1- New Hampshire (5-13, 6-20) vs Hartford (5-13, 5-21)
Hofstra (5-13, 9-17) vs Northeastern (2-16, 3-23)
3/2- Drexel (17-1, 23-3) vs New Hampshire or Hartford
Delaware (11-7, 15-11) vs Towson State (11-7, 15-11)
Boston University (13-5, 16-10) vs Hofstra or Northeastern
Maine (11-7, 14-12) vs Vermont (10-8, 12-14)
Northeast Conference
Games played at site of higher seeded team
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3/1- Mount St. Mary's (16-2, 20-6) vs Long Island-Brooklyn (5-13, 9-18)
Rider (12-6, 17-10) vs St.Francis PA (11-7, 13-13)
Marist (14-4, 21-5) vs Robert Morris (2-16, 5-22)
Monmouth (14-4, 17-9) vs Wagner (7-11, 10-16)
Ohio Valley Conference
Municipal Auditorium, Nashville, Tennessee
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3/1- Murray State (12-4, 18-8) vs Tennessee Tech (7-9, 13-14)
Tennessee State (11-5, 15-12) vs Austin Peay State (10-6, 17-10)
Patriot League
Hart Center, Worcester, Massachusetts
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3/2- Colgate (9-3, 13-14), bye
Bucknell (8-4, 16-10) vs Lafayette (4-8, 7-19)
Navy (9-3, 15-11) vs Army (2-10, 6-19)
Holy Cross (8-4, 14-12) vs Lehigh (2-10, 4-22)
Southern Conference
Greensboro Coliseum, Greensboro, North Carolina
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3/1- Davidson (14-0, 23-3) vs East Tennessee State (3-11, 7-19)
Tennessee-Chattanooga (9-5, 15-11) vs Marshall (8-6, 16-10)
Western Carolina (10-4, 14-12) Appalachian State (3-11, 8-19)
Virginia Military (10-4, 17-9) vs Furman (6-8, 10-16)
Southwestern Athletic Conference
Joe Reed Acadome, Montgomery, Alabama
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3/7- Southern (8-5, 15-11) vs Prairie View A&M (0-14, 4-22)
Alcorn State (7-7, 10-15) vs Grambling State (6-7, 11-14)
3/8- Jackson State (11-3, 15-12) vs Alcorn State or Grambling State
Mississippi Valley State (11-3, 20-6) vs Southern or Prairie View A&M
Sun Belt Conference
Barton Coliseum, Little Rock, Arkansas
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3/1- Arkansas State (7-11, 9-17) vs Louisiana Tech (6-12, 10-16)
South Alabama 7-11, 12-14) vs Texas-Pan American (6-12, 8-18)
3/2- New Orleans (14-4, 18-8) vs Arkansas State or Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky (10-8, 13-13) vs Southwestern Louisiana (9-9, 15-11)
Arkansas-Little Rock (14-4, 21-5) vs South Alabama or Texas-Pan American
Jacksonville (10-8, 14-12) vs Lamar (7-11, 12-14)
Trans America Athletic Conference
Edmunds Activity Center, DeLand, Florida
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3/1- Campbell (11-5, 17-10) vs Central Florida (6-10, 9-18)
Mercer (7-9, 14-13) vs Florida International (6-10, 13-14)
West Coast Conference
Toso Pavilion, Santa Clara, California
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3/2- Santa Clara (10-4, 19-7) vs Pepperdine (2-12, 9-17)
San Fransisco (8-6, 15-12) vs Portland (7-7, 16-10)
Gonzaga (10-4, 19-7) vs St.Mary's (5-9, 12-14)
Loyola Marymount (8-6, 18-10) vs San Diego (6-8, 13-13)
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| 14.1594 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | iceMAN - 1995 SPORTS NOTY Winner | Fri Mar 01 1996 17:28 | 2 |
| 14.1595 | Impressive win for UMass | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:18 | 9 |
| UMass showed why they are among the elite in the country, beating
Louisville in a very hostile atmosphere, in front of over 20,000
screaming home fans. Minutemen won the game with defense and
rebounding, holding the #2 FG% team in the country to 35%, and
outrebounding them by 14. Great job of defense by the guards and by
Dingle on the boards. Camby had a very strong game, and showed Samaki
Walker that he is still the #1 contender for player of the year.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1596 | some are in | HBAHBA::HAAS | leap jeer | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:19 | 16 |
| So far, we're having some fun in these low level tourneys.
Locally, the Western Carolina Catamounts upset Davidson to win the
Southern Conference. Davidson finishes at 25-4 but certainly the level of
competition they faced will hurt them.
Wisconsin-Green Bay lost to Detroit formerly Mercy but are still ranked
in the Top 25 so they'll prolly go to the dance, too.
Central Florida beat Mercer to qualify, making them a rare team to make
it to the tourney with a losing record, 11-18, including 3 wins in their
tourney.
Purdue clinched the Big T1E1N title.
TTom
|
| 14.1597 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:53 | 38 |
| > Locally, the Western Carolina Catamounts upset Davidson to win the
> Southern Conference. Davidson finishes at 25-4 but certainly the level of
> competition they faced will hurt them.
Yup, Davidson is NIT bound.
> Wisconsin-Green Bay lost to Detroit formerly Mercy but are still ranked
> in the Top 25 so they'll prolly go to the dance, too.
The Phoenix will get in, but this will drop their seeding from the 6-8
seedings area to a 10 or 11 seed. Detroit meets Northern Illinois for the
NCAA bid.
> Central Florida beat Mercer to qualify, making them a rare team to make
> it to the tourney with a losing record, 11-18, including 3 wins in their
> tourney.
Central Florida wins three in a row for the first time all season, in the
TAAC tourney to earn an NCAA bid, becoming just the 10th team to get into
the NCAAs with a losing record.
> Purdue clinched the Big T1E1N title.
South Carolina State, North Carolina-Greensboro, and Austin Peay State also
clinched NCAA bids. Princeton meets Penn Tuesday night and can win the Ivy
title with a victory. Other conference tourney finals that are set:
CAA: Virginia Commonwealth vs North Carolina-Wilmington
MAAC: Fairfield vs Canisius
MVC: Bradley vs Tulsa
NAC: Drexel vs Boston University
Patriot: Holy Cross at Colgate
Sun Belt: New Orleans vs Arkansas-Little Rock
WCC: Gonzaga vs Portland
Santa Clara lost its tourney opener to last place Pepperdine, on its own home
court. Still, the Broncos also figure to get a no. 11 or 12 seed, like the
UWGB Phoenix. Losses like these knock out the lowest bubble teams.
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| 14.1598 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Mon Mar 04 1996 14:58 | 7 |
| > Princeton meets Penn Tuesday night and can win the Ivy
> title with a victory.
Princeton is another of my "should always be in" teams.
I've never seen a team play with such complete and total
discipline. I wouldn't be surprised if Pete Carril is
Bob Knight's hero...
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| 14.1599 | Un-impressive really | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Mon Mar 04 1996 15:12 | 15 |
|
>> -< Impressive win for UMass >-
Impressive? They barely escaped with their lives and their
no. 2 ranking after a shoddily played and officiated game.
They had 17 turnovers, Camby shot under 50% and no one else
really stepped up offensively. The only thing that kept this
from being a loss was the rebounding and the defensive play,
especially that of Camby and Padilla. That may have been enough
against a team with the limtited offense of a Louisville but
that won't get them a national title or perhaps even a win
over GW in the A-10 tourney. UMass still hasn't righted the
ship.
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| 14.1600 | Tremendous defensive effort against a top opponent | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Mon Mar 04 1996 18:34 | 14 |
| Au contraire. This was a game against the 20th ranked team in the
nation, a team from arguably the strongest conference in the country
that had won 7 of its last 8 games. It was senior's day at Louisville,
and there was a raucous sellout crowd of over 20,000.
The defense of UMass totally dominated the Louisville offense. UMass
won this game the same way it defeated Wake Forest, Maryland, Georgia
Tech, and Memphis - with intense man to man defense and an unrelenting
attack on the offense boards. It ain't pretty, but it's how you win
big games in tournament time against quality opponents.
Sheesh, you'd think this win was against Rutgers or something! ;-)
NAZZ
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| 14.1601 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Mar 04 1996 19:47 | 10 |
| I think we'll have to wait until the tournament to see just how good
Louisville really is. This is the same team BC whooped by 20 or more...
and now that Louisville is again ranked, it's the ONLY BC win over a
ranked team all year.
A UMass "W" was expected. Louisville doesn't have the frontline to
contend with a Camby. It's a good win, but I don't know if it says
anything about where they'll go in the tournament.
Now had it been AT CINCINNATI, then we could talk....
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| 14.1602 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Tue Mar 05 1996 01:28 | 6 |
|
One more win and BU is in! Could be a banner year for New England!
UConn, UMass, BC?, BU?, PC?
- Sean
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| 14.1603 | | AD::HEATH | The albatross and whales they are my brother | Tue Mar 05 1996 09:28 | 4 |
|
And if Holy Cross wins tomorrow night at #1 seed Colgate they get the
Patriot leauge bid.
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| 14.1604 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 05 1996 11:56 | 17 |
| Four more teams are in:
Canisius, MAAC champ by beating regular season co-champ Fairfield;
Tulsa, MVC champ by beating regular season champ Bradley;
Portland, WCC champ by beating regular season co-champ Gonzaga; and
Virginia Commonwealth, CAA regular season and tourney winner over UNCW.
Tonight:
Detroit vs Northern Illinois for the MW Collegiate championship; and,
Valparaiso vs Western Illinois for the Mid Continent title. These two
teams are both shooting for their first NCAA Division I berth.
Valparaiso beat #7 seed Eastern Illinois last night, while WIU beat
Saw's team, CCSU, by a 68-66 score to make the tourney title game.
Meanwhile, Rider and Monmouth pulled road upsets to set up the NEC title
matchup on the Hawks' home campus (on Wednesday, I believe).
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| 14.1605 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Tue Mar 05 1996 12:01 | 6 |
|
re. Holy Cross:
Cool! I didn't know that one....
- Sean
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| 14.1606 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Tue Mar 05 1996 12:09 | 13 |
| >> Au contraire. This was a game against the 20th ranked team in the
>> nation, a team from arguably the strongest conference in the country
>> that had won 7 of its last 8 games.
Louisville had not won 7 of its last 8. They were coming off losses
to Memphis and Marquette. Weat was nursing a busted paw and they're
still trying to work Samaki Walker back into the mix. It's a win for
UMass but hardly impressive because Lousiville after all was a team
that BC beat like they stole something. Be afraid. Be very afraid for
UMass' title hopes because if they continue to put up these types of
subpar offensive efforts in the tourney they'll be home before BC will.
|
| 14.1607 | | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Tue Mar 05 1996 12:20 | 3 |
| Since UMass will have a walkover in the first round it is a real
stretch to think UMass will be eliminated before BC who could very well
lose their first round their game.
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| 14.1608 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:00 | 3 |
| The UMass guards are not making the outside shots and this situation is
about three weeks old. Camby makes most of his points from 12' and is
thus vulnerable to cold streaks.
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| 14.1609 | itsy-bitsy-teenie-weenie LeMoyne in the tournament !!! | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:16 | 9 |
| > re. Holy Cross:
> Cool! I didn't know that one....
And since we're talking about the Jesuit schools, I'm happy to say that
LeMoyne College (Syracuse, NY), my alma mater, won the New England
Collegiate Conference and gets the auto-bid into the NCAA Div 2 tournament.
GO YOU DOLPHINS ! (yeah, that's right, a school in Syracuse with the dolphin
as its mascot...)
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| 14.1610 | connected | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:21 | 9 |
| re: Jesuit schools.
I did a mini stint at Xavier or as they say Xavier-OH. It wasn't clear
if'n I quit or got fired. My sister went to Wheeling and then to Fordham
and my brother went to Fordham after almost signing up with them Jesuits.
MrT often espoused a Jesuit conspiracy.
TTom
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| 14.1611 | great schools | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:33 | 4 |
| >and my brother went to Fordham after almost signing up with them Jesuits.
Not too surprising. If the reality of religious life doesn't scare you
off, the 12 years of education very likely will.
|
| 14.1612 | lousy with 'em :=] | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:38 | 6 |
| I have one other Jesuit connection.
I had a great-uncle on my mother's side who was a Jesuit. He was
a_archbishop!~
TTom
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| 14.1613 | For some, Doyle's best | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:45 | 5 |
| In Conan-Doyle's The White Company Hordle John said "There were seven
reasons that I left the Monastery. The first of which was they threw
me out".
"Say no more" responded Aylward, "That is enough for thee and for me".
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| 14.1614 | I suggest these positions for the upcoming pool | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:46 | 199 |
| Austin Peay State Governors
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Cole Casbon G 6-2 180 SR
4 Adrian Sensabaugh G 6-2 185 JR
5 Jake Powers F 6-7 195 SO
10 Joe Sibbitt G 6-0 155 SO
11 Clint Mason G 6-0 170 JR
13 Bubba Wells F 6-5 225 JR
21 Colby Pierce G 6-2 175 JR
23 Jermaine Savage G/F 6-4 175 SR
32 Jermaine Johnson F/C 6-8 190 FR
42 Michael Head F 6-8 200 FR
44 Reggie Crenshaw F 6-7 215 SO
Canisius Golden Griffins
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Kevin Thompson G 6-2 195 SO
5 Mickey Frazier G 6-2 185 SR
11 Kevin Worley G 6-2 160 FR
12 David Allen F 6-8 220 FR
15 Javonne Moore G 5-11 180 JR
21 Fred Dupree F 6-6 220 SO
22 Keith Lambkin G 6-4 185 FR
32 Eric Wooten F 6-5 230 JR
33 Darrell Barley F 6-5 195 SR
34 James Cammaert F 6-5 225 FR
44 Ryan Collins C 6-9 230 JR
55 Michael Meeks C 6-9 225 SR
Central Florida Knights
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 Davin Granberry F 6-6 200 FR
4 Brad Tice F/C 6-9 215 FR
5 Harry Kennedy G 6-5 200 JR
10 Abel Herrera G 6-0 170 SR
12 David Anderson G 6-1 180 SO
14 Stacey Castle G 6-1 170 JR
20 Eric Riggs G 6-1 175 FR
21 Todd Braid G 6-1 180 SO
22 Howard Potter F 6-6 215 SR
24 Tony Marlow F 6-7 200 SO
32 Reid Ketteler F 6-6 220 SR
35 Chris West C 6-10 250 SR
Brian Conner G 6-2 180 FR
North Carolina-Greensboro Spartans
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
5 Scott Hartzell G 6-0 183 SR
10 Gary Mearite G 5-10 170 SR
15 Wesley Ervin G 5-10 163 FR
20 Derrick Nix G 6-2 166 SO
21 Jeremy Davis G 6-4 191 JR
22 Skeet Woolard F 6-4 200 SR
32 Brian Brunson C/F 6-9 245 JR
33 Ivan Jaklenec C 6-8 228 SO
34 Eric Cuthrell C 6-9 230 SR
40 Tony Daughtry G 6-5 175 JR
42 Jonathan Clifton F 6-5 205 SR
44 Demetrius Cherry F 6-7 215 FR
52 Larry Gilbert F 6-7 194 SO
Portland Pilots
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Chivo Anderson G 6-4 170 SO
4 Sharif Metoyer G 6-0 180 SR
21 Lemont Daniels F 6-4 225 SR
23 Dionn Holton G 5-10 195 SO
24 Kasey Flicker G 6-3 170 JR
25 Jason Franklin G 6-4 180 FR
31 Jimmie Rainwater G/F 6-6 185 FR
32 Kweemada King G 6-4 205 JR
33 Luke Palumbis C 6-9 220 SO
40 Kyle Stonehouse F 6-8 235 FR
42 Rick Brainard G/F 6-6 215 JR
44 Troy Collins F 6-6 200 FR
54 Jay Strid C 7-1 225 FR
Purdue Boilermakers
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Chad Austin G 6-2 200 SO
14 Matt Ten Damm C 7-2 275 JR
15 Alan Eldridge G 6-1 180 FR
20 Todd Foster G 6-1 195 SR
21 Herb Dove G/F 6-5 190 SR
23 Porter Roberts G 6-3 195 SR
25 Roy Hairston F 6-8 215 SR
31 David Lesmond F 6-8 210 SO
33 Justin Jennings F 6-6 210 SR
34 Luther Clay F 6-8 210 FR
35 Brian Cardinal F 6-8 220 FR
42 Brandon Brantley F/C 6-8 205 SR
South Carolina State Bulldogs
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
4 K-Zell Wesson F 6-7 240 FR
5 Jay Joyner G/F 6-7 185 SR
11 Derrick Patterson F 6-6 235 SR
12 Roderick Blakney G 5-10 190 SO
15 Eric Fernandez G 6-1 170 SR
21 Cliff Green F 6-6 215 SR
25 Aric Samuel G 6-3 170 JR
30 Raheem Waller F 6-8 235 FR
33 Jamal Brown F/C 6-8 220 SR
40 Miguel Burns F 6-4 195 SR
45 Desi McQueen F/C 6-8 235 SR
Jimmy Burnette G 6-0 190 FR
Tulsa Golden Hurricane
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Jason Williams G 6-2 180 FR
5 Ray Poindexter F/C 6-11 225 SR
15 Cordell Love G 6-2 180 SR
21 Shea Seals G/F 6-5 200 JR
22 Dewayne Bonner F 6-5 185 SR
24 Rod Thompson G 6-2 185 SO
32 Zac Bennett F 6-8 220 FR
33 Jamie Gillin G 6-4 205 SO
35 John Cornwell F 6-9 210 FR
41 Craig Hernadi F 6-7 225 SR
42 J.R. Rollo C 6-10 245 SR
50 Rafael Maldanado C 6-11 240 SO
51 Michael Ruffin F/C 6-8 225 FR
UCLA Bruins
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
5 Cameron Dollar G 6-1 173 JR
12 Toby Bailey G 6-5 185 SO
13 Charles O'Bannon F 6-6 205 JR
20 Brandon Loyd G 6-0 170 FR
24 Bob Myers F 6-6 210 JR
30 Kevin Dempsey F 6-6 210 SR
34 Jelani McCoy C 6-10 220 FR
35 Ike Nwankwo C 6-11 234 JR
50 omm'A Givens C/F 6-10 235 SO
52 J.R. Henderson F 6-9 215 SO
54 Kris Johnson G/F 6-4 220 SO
Virginia Commonwealth Rams
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 George Byrd C 6-8 270 JR
3 Ivan Chappell F 6-6 215 SR
4 John Smith C 6-8 275 SR
5 Bernard Hopkins F 6-7 240 SR
13 Tryrian Ridges G 6-1 170 FR
15 Ben Peabody G 6-4 180 SR
21 Sherman Hamilton G 6-2 180 JR
32 Marcus Reed F/G 6-4 185 JR
33 Patrick Lee G 6-1 200 JR
34 Marlow Talley F 6-7 240 SR
35 Joe Martin G 6-3 195 SO
43 Scott Marston F 6-7 195 FR
Western Carolina Catamounts
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
11 William Butler G 6-0 173 FR
12 Ken Gibson G 6-3 185 JR
13 Kevin Kullum F 6-7 195 SR
14 Larry Mayo G 6-2 180 JR
20 Lazarus Chennault F 6-4 220 JR
22 Joel Fleming G 6-0 160 SO
24 Anquell McCollum G 6-1 180 SR
25 Jarvis Graham F 6-7 190 SO
32 Joe Stafford F 6-5 180 JR
33 Kerry Wright C 6-9 235 JR
34 Joey Bryson G 6-4 185 FR
41 Scott Scholtz C 6-7 215 JR
42 James Ford C 6-8 220 SO
|
| 14.1615 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:46 | 13 |
|
>> The UMass guards are not making the outside shots
Padilla is having an especially hard time. Quasimodo didn't
clang as loudly as Edgar has lately. Besides the fact that he's
much quicker, can score off the dribble and and is ten times the
defensive player the big advantage of Padilla over his predecessor
Derek Kellogg was he'd take and make the J. Not lately. He isn't
just missing his shots, sometimes he's not even in the same area
code as the hoop. And that's all part of my point about the offen-
sive funk of the Minutemen. In the "impressive win" over Louisville
UMass' backcourt went 3 for 8 for a total of 10 points. That ain't
gonna get it done.
|
| 14.1616 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:51 | 15 |
| <<< Note 14.1609 by USCTR1::GARBARINO >>>
>And since we're talking about the Jesuit schools, I'm happy to say that
>LeMoyne College (Syracuse, NY), my alma mater, won the New England
>Collegiate Conference and gets the auto-bid into the NCAA Div 2 tournament.
Congrats.
They have a much better baseball than basketball program, by the way.
Several of their players have been big league caliber, and they nearly made
the Division I CWS in 1989. You may already know that, but maybe you didn't
know the LeMoyne baseball teams owns the biggest comeback in NCAA Div.I
baseball postseason history, rallying to beat Penn after trailing 14-0.
When did you graduate ?
|
| 14.1617 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Tue Mar 05 1996 13:53 | 2 |
| LeMoyne can get away with being the Dolphins because
of all the water in the area after the snow melts...
|
| 14.1618 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Mar 05 1996 14:16 | 22 |
| > know the LeMoyne baseball teams owns the biggest comeback in NCAA Div.I
> baseball postseason history, rallying to beat Penn after trailing 14-0.
Yes, I did know that. I believe the game spanned two days. I think they
beat the #1 seed in that Regional (Arizona ?), too. There's no comparing
their basketball program to their baseball program. Enrollment is barely
over 2,000 and yet they're a major player in Div 1 baseball. The basketball
program has gone between Div 2 and 3 a couple of times. It feeds off the
local catholic high schools for talent (for the most part).
> When did you graduate ?
1979. As good as they were, hardly anyone went to the baseball games...
too busy studying, ya know... But we all went to the hoop games.
I was a senior the year Tom Browning and Jim Deshaises were freshmen.
Years later, legendary coach Dick Rockwell was quoted as saying, "I watch
Browning on TV and I can't help but think that he had more trouble with
St. Lawrence than he does with St. Louis (Cardinals)". Rockwell just
fell into Browning as he saw him pitch against Deshaises. He was heavily
recruiting Deshaises and picked up the unknown Browning along the way.
|
| 14.1619 | from an interview with Roy Firestone | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Mar 05 1996 14:26 | 13 |
| Rick Pitino on what it takes to win the NCAA championship:
"It takes consistent recruiting over a period of time. The one
thing I come away with four years in the NBA, is if I want to be
an outstanding coach, I have to get outstanding players. That's
what I learned."
I guess he and Knight don't compare notes often. I think he's way off
base. I can't see how winning with great players makes you a better
coach than the same achievement with lesser players. I think his answer
hints at why I don't believe he'll ever win the big one. He sees winning
as a by-product of having great players, instead of coaching players
to become winners.
|
| 14.1620 | excuse #? | XTATIC::CHILDS | Harry Browne for President! | Tue Mar 05 1996 14:41 | 5 |
|
Sounds like it's right outta the Tarheel's bible..........
mike
|
| 14.1621 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Mar 05 1996 19:41 | 1 |
| No there's no excuses with the talent he's got even without those two.
|
| 14.1622 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Mar 06 1996 12:05 | 12 |
| Three more teams are in:
Valparaiso, Mid-Continent Conference champion;
Northern Illinois, Midwestern Collegiate Conference champion; and
New Orleans, Sun Belt Conference champion.
Pennsylvania beat Princeton last night. The two will play again
Saturday on the campus of Lehigh University to determine the Ivy League
championship. [USA Today online says Penn is in, but they aren't yet.]
Tonight:
Holy Cross at Colgate for the Patriot League title and the NCAA bid.
|
| 14.1623 | let 'em play | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Wed Mar 06 1996 12:46 | 9 |
| I like the idea of Penn playing Princeton again. This seems like the
bestest way to settle things, let 'em play one more.
New Orleans won at the buzzer at UALR. Amazingly, one of the Privateers
took it around, through and over most of the Little Rocks team to dispy
doo it in the hoop just as time expired. It's good to see Wimp back in
the game, though.
TTom
|
| 14.1624 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Wed Mar 06 1996 13:16 | 7 |
|
Tonight starts it! 1/16 of the teams in the NCAA tourney could be
from li'l ole Mass... UMass = in. BC = prolly in if they don't
lose to Pitt. HC = in if they beat Colgate tonight. BU = in if
they beat Drexel tomorrow night.
- Sean
|
| 14.1625 | NC > Mass. | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Wed Mar 06 1996 13:23 | 6 |
| If'n you like Mass. how bout NC, which will prolly have 5.
Western Carolina, UNC-G are in. Duke, Wake, and No Carolina will surely
get invites.
TTom
|
| 14.1626 | Bad stuff Man... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donnie Baseball Yankee HOFer!!! | Wed Mar 06 1996 13:28 | 10 |
|
I thought Western Carolina was now a State.
BTW After watching Andersonville the other night. I'm not sure I
wanna note with you Johnny Reb! :-)
Chap
|
| 14.1627 | different ones | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Wed Mar 06 1996 13:34 | 7 |
| You must be thinking of West Carolina?
I haven't seen _Andersonville_ and prolly won't. About the onliest prison
type movies I like are the ones with wimmen in 'em, you know really good
actresses like Linda Blair. That kinda thing.
TTom
|
| 14.1628 | | CAM::WAY | There's the devil to pay! | Wed Mar 06 1996 13:54 | 2 |
| Actually Chappy, the Union had some pretty hellacious prisons where they kept
their prisoners of war too.
|
| 14.1629 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Mar 06 1996 14:11 | 3 |
| > Holy Cross at Colgate for the Patriot League title and the NCAA bid.
GO YOU CRUSADERS !!
|
| 14.1630 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Wed Mar 06 1996 17:23 | 38 |
| Teams that have clinched bids (14):
Austin Peay State, Canisius, Central Florida, New Orleans,
North Carolina-Greensboro, Northern Illinois, Portland, Purdue,
South Carolina State, Tulsa, UCLA, Valparaiso, Virginia Commonwealth,
Western Carolina
Teams that have assured themselves of bids (28):
Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, North Carolina, Duke; Massachusetts,
Virginia Tech; Connecticut, Georgetown, Villanova, Syracuse; Kansas,
Iowa State; Penn State, Iowa, Indiana; Cincinnati, Memphis, Marquette,
Louisville; Eastern Michigan; Wisconsin-Green Bay; Bradley; Arizona,
Stanford; Kentucky, Mississippi State; Texas Tech; Utah
Conferences that must receive a bid, with no teams listed above (8):
Big Sky, Big West, Ivy, North Atlantic, Northeast, Patriot, Southland,
Southwestern Athletic
Conferences who will get an at least one additional bid (7):
Atlantic Ten (GWU/Temple), Big East (BC/PC), Big Eight (Mo/KSU/OU),
Big Ten (prob.Michigan), SEC- 2 bids (Ga/Ark/Alab/S Car/Vandy),
WAC (UNM/Fresno).
That's 57 bids locked up. Who are fighting for the other 7 bids ?
ACC #5 team (probably Maryland), A-10 #4 team (Temple/GWU), Big East #6
(BC/PC), Big Eight #4 (Mo/KSU/Oklahoma), Big Ten #6 (Illinois/MSU/Wisc),
Pac 10 #4 team (probably California), SEC #5 team (Ga/Ark/Ala/USC/Vand),
SWC #2 team (Texas/Houston), WAC #3 team (UNM/Fresno),
Arkansas-Little Rock, College of Charleston, Davidson, Illinois State,
Santa Clara, Tulane.
Note that there are still a few conferences where upsets could add an
additional team to the tourney, most notably the MAC (if EMU is upset).
|
| 14.1631 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Mar 06 1996 17:44 | 3 |
| > Teams that have assured themselves of bids (28):
I'm curious - according to whom?
|
| 14.1632 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Wed Mar 06 1996 17:53 | 5 |
|
You know, if Penn does managed to beat Princeton Saturday, I'd really
like it if both teams were given bids...
Joe
|
| 14.1633 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Mar 06 1996 17:58 | 5 |
| Like I said before, Princeton should be an automatic bid. They seem to
provide tough competition every time they go.
But Lord help us if *two* colleges that don't give out academic scholarships
make it to the NCAAs... :-)
|
| 14.1634 | athletic scholarships? | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Wed Mar 06 1996 18:09 | 0 |
| 14.1635 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Wed Mar 06 1996 18:38 | 10 |
|
Princeton and Pete Carrill immediately sprung to mind when
I read Pitino's banal quote about it taking outstanding players
to make an outstanding coach. Princeton ball can be as boring
as a Friday night in New Hampshire but given the athletes that
they have to work with, no one goes further with less. No one.
I always thought Bum Phillips had the best definition of what
a great coach is. Bum said, 'He'll take his 'un and beat your
'un. And then he'll take your 'un and beat his 'un." That fits
Carrill.
|
| 14.1636 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Mar 06 1996 18:43 | 14 |
| RE: .1434
Yup, that was a mega-typo...
RE: .1435
I'd lump Eddie Sutton in that category, too, except Eddie probably *paid*
"his 'un".
Carrill teams give more talented teams *fits*. They never panic, and work
the ball around until they get a good shot. Because of this, and because
their possessions take a long time, they rarely fall behind by a lot. So
they're hanging around, hanging around, and suddenly, the more talented team
runs into a cold streak, and there's the Tigers staring them in the face...
|
| 14.1637 | Tough Time Against a Perr School | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Wed Mar 06 1996 18:55 | 1 |
| Princeton looked lousy last night against Penn.
|
| 14.1638 | Jest sit up on the porch listenin' to the IQ's drop | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Wed Mar 06 1996 19:14 | 4 |
| "as boring as a Friday night in New Hampshire" - there is nothing worse
than that!
NAZZ
|
| 14.1639 | Speaking of Colgate... | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Wed Mar 06 1996 19:40 | 15 |
| Speaking of Holy Cross - Colgate...
A guy at work invited me to play hoops with him and some other
guys that have court time somewhere. Anyway, I show up to play
and there's this good looking ball player guys were calling 'Murph'
that was playing.
It turned out that a few of the players are Colgate alums and
the athletic director for Colgate was in the area to watch his
team. The athletic director is Mark Murphy, former Colgate alum
and former all pro defensive back for the Washington Redskins.
I guess he played freshman b-ball at Colgate.
Tony
|
| 14.1640 | | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Atlanta, Home of the WS Champs | Wed Mar 06 1996 20:42 | 4 |
| There's a blast from the past - Mark Murphy. Think he picked up at
least one SB ring with the 'Skins.
UMDan
|
| 14.1641 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Wed Mar 06 1996 21:21 | 1 |
| 14.1642 | | PHHSS1::DFAUST | Bad Things, man... | Thu Mar 07 1996 09:36 | 2 |
| Drexel University just retired the jersey of Malek Rose (00).
|
| 14.1643 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Mar 07 1996 11:26 | 4 |
| > "as boring as a Friday night in New Hampshire" - there is nothing worse
> than that!
As if anyone here would invite you guys in the first place...
|
| 14.1644 | yep | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Thu Mar 07 1996 12:28 | 8 |
| > Are there any NCAA teams that retire jerseys?
Almost all of the ACC teams retire jerseys. Almost ever Tar Heel game
they show the rafters with the jerseys.
Duke has a_interesting twist: you have to graduate to get the honor.
TTom
|
| 14.1645 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Mar 08 1996 16:45 | 2 |
| I believe Syracuse just retired Pearl Washington's # this past weekend.
I'll have to check that article I posted in here....
|
| 14.1646 | Upset city, baby! | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Mon Mar 11 1996 12:25 | 13 |
|
I loved seeing Iowa State beat Kansas - Roy Williams has turned into a
Dean-grade whiner par excellence. Nice #2 seed you got there, Roy... :-)
Miss. St. beating Kentucky may have been just what Kentucky *needed* - it
didn't hurt them in the seeding and gave them a nice kick in the pants.
And Cincinnati almost went down as well.
As an SU fan - I'm glad to see them at #4 in the bracket that Purdue is #1 in.
If they win their first two games, I already know that UMass and UConn can wax
them - Purdue is a hell of a team (with emphasis on the "team"), but at least
I don't *know* they'll beat SU...
|
| 14.1647 | UMass 31-1 vs UCF 11-18 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 11 1996 14:33 | 140 |
| Massachusetts Minutemen 31-1
----------------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
3 *Dana Dingle F 6-7 220 SR
4 *Donta Bright F 6-6 223 SR
5 Charlton Clarke G 6-3 210 FR
10 Ross Burns G 6-3 180 FR
11 Giddel Padilla G 6-3 187 SR
12 *Edgar Padilla G 6-2 175 JR
14 Andy Maclay G 6-4 190 FR
21 *Marcus Camby C 6-11 220 JR
24 *Carmelo Travieso G 6-2 180 JR
34 Tyrone Weeks F 6-7 260 JR
40 Ted Cottrell C/F 6-9 200 SR
44 Rigoberto Nunez F 6-7 195 SR
50 Inus Norville F 6-8 225 SO
Coach: John Calipari
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg AT TO BS ST Pts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Camby, M 25-23 202-414 .488 0- 7 .000 132-186 .710 205- 8.2 48 67 97 25 21.4
Bright, D 29-29 161-322 .500 6- 27 .222 101-128 .789 167- 5.8 50 64 19 30 14.8
Travesio, C 29-28 112-268 .418 73-184 .397 37- 61 .607 91- 3.1 55 40 14 38 11.5
Dingle, D 29-29 105-237 .443 1- 5 .200 84-137 .613 221- 7.6 43 50 0 27 10.2
Padilla, E 29-28 82 -199 .412 33- 99 .333 70- 99 .707 106- 3.7 183 76 13 79 9.2
Weeks, T 28- 0 55 -119 .462 0- 0 .000 37- 51 .725 144- 5.1 11 31 13 8 5.3
Norville, I 29- 5 25 - 52 .481 1- 3 .333 21- 37 .568 65- 2.2 1 15 19 8 2.5
Clarke, C 15- 0 8 - 19 .421 1- 8 .125 4- 12 .333 5- 0.3 7 6 0 5 1.4
Cottrell, T 18- 1 7 - 15 .467 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 14- 0.8 1 3 1 1 0.8
Nunez, R 25- 1 3 - 15 .200 0- 2 .000 5- 12 .417 26- 1.0 8 9 3 1 0.4
Padilla, G 15- 1 2 - 9 .222 0- 3 .000 3- 4 .750 6- 0.4 5 3 0 3 0.5
Burns, R 13- 0 2 - 4 .500 0- 1 .000 1- 2 .500 1- 0.1 2 2 0 1 0.4
Maclay, A 14- 0 1 - 4 .250 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 5- 0.4 0 1 0 0 0.1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Massachusetts 29 765-1677 .456 115-341 .337 495-729 .679 1152-39.7 414 368 179 226 73.8
Opponents 29 637-1652 .386 126-423 .298 375-552 .679 981-33.8 308 449 70 172 62.4
Schedule/results
Nov. 28 Defeated Kentucky, 92-82
Dec. 2 Defeated Maryland, 50-47
Dec. 3 Defeated Florida, 80-58
Dec. 6 Defeated Wake Forest, 60-46
Dec. 9 Defeated Boston College, 65-57
Dec. 12 Defeated UNC-Wilmington, 77-51
Dec. 22 Defeated Georgia Tech, 75-67
Dec. 28 Defeated North Carolina State, 78-67
Dec. 29 Defeated Southern Cal, 78-63
Dec. 30 Defeated Syracuse, 65-47
Jan. 4 Defeated Memphis, 64-61
Jan. 6 Defeated Dayton, 78-58
Jan. 10 Won at St. Joseph's (Pa.), 94-89
Jan. 14 Won at St. Bonaventure, 65-52
Jan. 17 Defeated Rhode Island, 77-71
Jan. 20 Won at Duquesne, 93-89
Jan. 23 Won at Pittsburgh, 79-71
Jan. 27 Defeated St. Bonaventure, 72-47
Jan. 30 Defeated Fordham, 80-50
Feb. 1 Won at Temple, 59-35
Feb. 4 Won at Xavier (Ohio), 78-74
Feb. 6 Defeated Fordham, 73-47
Feb. 11 Defeated Temple, 84-55
Feb. 15 Defeated La Salle, 70-53
Feb. 17 Won at Virginia Tech, 74-58
Feb. 20 Won at Rhode Island, 74-69
Feb. 24 Lost to George Washington, 86-76
Feb. 28 Defeated St. Joseph's (Pa.), 68-66
March 2 Won at Louisville, 62-59
March 7 Defeated St. Bonaventure, 69-56
March 8 Defeated George Washington, 74-65
March 9 Defeated George Washington, 75-61
Central Florida Knights 11-18
-----------------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
4 Brad Tice F/C 6-9 215 FR
5 *Harry Kennedy G 6-5 180 JR
14 Brian Conner G 6-2 180 FR
21 Brad Traina G 6-5 190 FR
22 *Howard Porter F 6-6 215 SR
24 Tony Marlow F 6-7 200 SO
25 *Stacey Castle G 6-1 170 JR
32 Reid Ketteler F 6-6 220 SR
34 *Eric Riggs G 6-2 175 FR
35 *Chris West C 6-10 250 SR
Coach: Kirk Speraw
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
Kennedy, H 29-24 152-362 .420 90-225 .400 100-117 .855 107 3.7 31 55 5 13 17.0
Porter, H 29-27 159-272 .585 4-14 .286 65-105 .619 202 7.0 24 74 25 21 13.3
Riggs, E 29-21 110-292 .377 61-169 .361 42-49 .857 78 2.7 94 66 1 38 11.1
Castle, S 25-22 93-234 .397 20-72 .278 90-116 .690 87 3.5 123 114 2 36 11.0
Tice, B 29-3 71-145 .490 0-0 .000 16-33 .485 126 4.3 9 32 26 7 5.4
West, C 29-26 52-97 .536 0-0 .000 30-45 .667 132 4.6 10 36 37 10 4.6
Ketteler, R 29-2 43-76 .566 0-1 .000 39-51 .765 80 2.8 27 63 0 7 4.3
Traina, B 29-3 46-112 .411 12-40 .300 20-26 .769 49 1.7 30 27 4 11 4.3
Marlow, T 29-9 32-67 .478 0-2 .000 19-34 .559 85 2.9 29 33 2 15 2.9
Herrera, A 18-8 17-40 .425 3-7 .429 17-24 .708 24 1.3 37 27 0 14 3.0
Connor, B 7-0 2-8 .250 0-2 .000 1-1 1.00 4 0.6 0 0 0 0 0.7
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UCF 29 777-1705 .456 190-532 .357 429-601 .714 1079 37.2 436 527 102 172 74.9
Opponents 29 781-1817 .430 208-574 .362 533-781 .682 1095 37.8 422 412 92 287 79.4
Schedule/results
Nov. 27 Defeated Palm Beach Atlantic, 101-74
Nov. 29 Won at Winthrop, 77-65
Dec. 2 Lost to Northern Iowa, 95-78
Dec. 11 Lost to South Florida, 92-82
Dec. 17 Lost to Eastern Kentucky, 79-72
Dec. 19 Lost at Georgia, 103-54
Dec. 21 Lost at Northern Iowa, 76-71
Dec. 28 Lost to Davidson, 90-51
Dec. 30 Lost at Nevada-Las Vegas, 74-53
Jan. 4 Won at Jacksonville State, 93-73
Jan. 6 Lost at Samford, 92-78
Jan. 11 Lost to Centenary, 84-60
Jan. 13 Lost to Southeastern Louisiana, 95-84
Jan. 15 Lost to North Carolina State, 81-74
Jan. 18 Lost to Mercer, 67-65
Jan. 20 Won at Georgia State, 95-75
Jan. 25 Defeated Florida Atlantic, 79-68
Jan. 27 Lost to Florida International, 83-78
Feb. 1 Lost at Charleston (S.C.), 103-61
Feb. 3 Won at Campbell, 79-58
Feb. 5 Won at Stetson, 75-66
Feb. 8 Lost to Charleston (S.C.), 69-65
Feb. 10 Lost to Campbell, 70-69
Feb. 17 Defeated Stetson, 73-62
Feb. 22 Lost at Florida International, 93-86
Feb. 24 Lost at Florida Atlantic, 88-71
Feb. 29 Defeated Southeastern Louisiana, 83-80
March 1 Defeated Campbell, 80-71
March 2 Defeated Mercer, 86-77
|
| 14.1648 | Geo'town 26-7 vs MVSU 22-6 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 11 1996 14:37 | 151 |
| Georgetown Hoyas 26-7
---------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
3 *Allen Iverson G 6-1 165 SO
4 Joseph Touomou G 6-2 190 FR
10 Eric Myles G 5-10 185 SO
11 Daymond Jackson G/F 6-4 195 FR
13 Brendan Gaughan G 5-9 180 JR
14 Cheikh Ya-Ya Dia F/C 6-9 225 JR
22 *Boubacar Aw F 6-7 222 SO
25 Jerry Nichols G 6-4 210 SO
32 Godwin Owinje F 6-8 200 JR
40 Jameel Watkins C 6-10 244 FR
42 *Jerome Williams F/G 6-9 200 SR
44 *Victor Page G 6-3 205 FR
50 *Othella Harrington C 6-9 240 SR
55 Jahidi White F/C 6-9 270 SO
Coach: John Thompson
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Tot- Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Iverson, A 30-30 250- 509 .491 64-188 .340 172-254 .677 43- 71 114- 3.8 151 108 15 114 24.5
Harrington, O 30-30 131- 235 .557 0- 2 .000 110-140 .786 84-133 217- 7.2 34 51 48 24 12.4
Page, V 30-25 128- 317 .404 33- 96 .344 68- 96 .708 41- 44 85- 2.8 51 68 7 50 11.9
Williams, J 30-30 124- 210 .590 1- 6 .167 62-104 .596 106-154 260- 8.7 36 59 14 57 10.4
Nichols, J 29- 0 52- 131 .397 34- 88 .386 17- 29 .586 17- 43 60- 2.1 28 26 3 14 5.3
Aw, B 30-30 64- 130 .492 0- 0 .000 19- 42 .452 44- 50 94- 3.1 31 42 10 37 4.9
White, J 30- 0 48- 97 .495 0- 0 .000 34- 69 .493 54- 51 105- 3.5 4 41 34 13 4.3
Dia, Y 30- 0 42- 77 .545 0- 0 .000 8- 12 .667 47- 79 126- 4.2 20 30 18 13 3.1
Jackson, D 29- 0 35- 80 .438 1- 8 .125 7- 23 .304 22- 35 57- 2.0 19 26 1 18 2.7
Touomou, J 30- 5 23- 74 .311 17- 54 .315 11- 20 .550 11- 20 31- 1.0 47 33 1 28 2.5
Myles, E 3- 0 2- 13 .154 2- 13 .154 0- 0 .000 0- 2 2- 0.7 7 3 0 1 2.0
Owinje, G 23- 0 10- 37 .270 1- 11 .091 6- 11 .545 17- 28 45- 2.0 6 18 2 3 1.2
Bery, D 17- 0 6- 25 .240 2- 13 .154 3- 6 .500 0- 3 3- 0.2 3 5 0 2 1.0
Gaughan, B 13- 0 1- 3 .333 0- 0 .000 2- 4 .500 0- 3 3- 0.2 2 5 0 2 0.3
reed, j 3- 0 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 1- 0 1- 0.3 1 0 0 0 0.0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Georgetown 30 916-1938 .473 155-479 .324 519-810 .641 487-716 1307-43.6 440 515 153 376 83.5
Opponents 30 749-1781 .421 166-485 .342 374-617 .606 412-644 1056-35.2 447 641 104 270 67.9
Schedule/results
Nov. 16 Defeated Colgate, 106-57
Nov. 18 Defeated Temple, 74-49
Nov. 22 Defeated Georgia Tech, 94-72
Nov. 24 Lost to Arizona, 91-81
Nov. 29 Defeated Southern-New Orleans, 96-65
Dec. 2 Won at West Virginia, 86-83
Dec. 4 Defeated Rutgers, 83-52
Dec. 8 Defeated Cal State-Sacramento, 113-58
Dec. 18 Defeated St. Francis (Pa.), 88-55
Dec. 20 Defeated Morgan State, 104-60
Dec. 28 Defeated Duquesne, 88-86
Dec. 30 Defeated St. Leo, 123-65
Jan. 3 Won at DePaul, 81-61
Jan. 6 Defeated Seton Hall, 85-76
Jan. 10 Lost at Pittsburgh, 75-56
Jan. 13 Defeated Miami (Fla.), 72-67
Jan. 15 Won at Notre Dame, 74-69
Jan. 20 Won at Seton Hall, 82-62
Jan. 24 Defeated Syracuse, 83-64
Jan. 27 Lost at St. John's, 83-72
Jan. 31 Defeated West Virginia, 91-67
Feb. 3 Defeated Notre Dame, 70-53
Feb. 5 Lost at Villanova, 79-66
Feb. 10 Lost at Syracuse, 85-64
Feb. 13 Won at Boston College, 66-63
Feb. 17 Defeated Memphis, 81-60
Feb. 19 Defeated Connecticut, 77-65
Feb. 24 Defeated Boston College, 67-64
Feb. 27 Lost at Providence, 84-77
March 2 Defeated Villanova, 106-68
March 7 Defeated Miami (Fla.), 92-62
March 8 Defeated Villanova, 84-76
March 9 Lost to Connecticut, 75-74
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils 22-6
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
5 *Anthony Davis G 6-1 175 SO
10 Michael Caples G 6-3 180 SO
11 Faragi Phillips G 6-3 180 SO
12 Christopher Smith F 5-10 155 SO
14 Derrick Smith F 6-4 200 SO
20 Eric Redmond F 6-5 225 SR
22 *Shun Pearson G 6-4 210 JR
23 Kenyon Ross F 6-6 180 JR
25 *Dendrius Rucker F 6-8 200 SR
30 Eric Parks C 6-8 240 SO
31 Mark Jennings F 6-3 190 JR
33 T.J. Campbell G 6-4 185 JR
34 *Marcus Mann F 6-8 240 SR
35 *Anthony Smith F 6-8 190 SR
Coach: Lafayette Stribling
Player G- FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mann, M 26 222- 355 .625 1- 2 .500 112-174 .644 344-13.2 39 68 30 30 21.4
Rucker, D 26 114- 266 .429 42-104 .404 60- 81 .741 207- 8.0 22 43 22 18 12.7
Davis, A 26 83- 220 .377 23- 79 .291 52-110 .473 67- 2.6 111 84 1 37 9.3
Smith, A 25 89- 152 .586 1- 5 .200 58- 90 .644 138- 5.5 26 45 14 12 9.5
Haywood, F 23 86- 181 .475 6- 21 .286 34- 55 .618 129- 5.6 17 35 7 18 9.2
Pearson, S 19 60- 175 .343 41-112 .366 7- 10 .700 38- 2.0 15 16 3 10 8.8
Ross, K 26 57- 108 .528 1- 12 .083 31- 65 .477 71- 2.7 49 51 14 30 5.6
Phillips, F 24 42- 108 .389 20- 69 .290 26- 33 .788 44- 1.8 27 36 2 18 5.4
Redmond, E 25 37- 67 .552 4- 12 .333 9- 21 .429 56- 2.2 7 15 6 12 3.5
Smith, C 21 18- 61 .295 8- 30 .267 15- 20 .750 17- 0.8 34 25 0 11 2.8
Smith, D 19 15- 56 .268 9- 31 .290 8- 16 .500 26- 1.4 3 24 2 9 2.5
Jennings, M 10 3- 7 .429 0- 2 .000 5- 8 .625 9- 0.9 0 2 0 1 1.1
Caples, M 4 2- 4 .500 2- 3 .667 0- 1 .000 2- 0.5 0 3 0 1 1.5
Parks, E 2 2- 2 1.000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0.0 1 0 0 0 2.0
Campbell, T 6 2- 15 .133 0- 5 .000 0- 2 .000 4- 0.7 1 7 0 0 0.7
Team 94
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Miss. Valley 26 832-1777 .468 158-487 .324 417-686 .608 1246-47.9 389 454 101 207 86.1
Opponents 26 714-1734 .412 143-515 .278 384-565 .680 946-36.4 334 410 57 215 75.2
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Jacksonville State, 93-68
Nov. 28 Won at Delta State, 87-80
Dec. 1 Defeated Idaho, 63-61
Dec. 2 Defeated Southeast Missouri State, 84-80
Dec. 7 Defeated Delta State, 78-76
Dec. 9 Defeated Tennessee State, 86-70
Dec. 11 Defeated Arkansas-Pine Bluff, 93-62
Dec. 16 Lost at Jacksonville State, 102-94
Dec. 22 Won at Stetson, 81-61
Dec. 28 Lost at Utah State, 80-63
Dec. 29 Lost to Buffalo, 74-73
Jan. 3 Won at Arkansas-Pine Bluff, 113-44
Jan. 6 Defeated Alcorn State, 113-78
Jan. 8 Defeated Southern, 94-92
Jan. 13 Won at Prairie View A&M, 95-88
Jan. 15 Won at Texas Southern, 97-74
Jan. 20 Won at Jackson State, 94-93
Jan. 22 Won at Alabama State, 83-75
Jan. 27 Defeated Grambling, 76-70
Feb. 3 Lost at Alcorn State, 77-74
Feb. 5 Lost at Southern, 93-87
Feb. 10 Defeated Prairie View A&M, 96-76
Feb. 12 Defeated Texas Southern, 79-59
Feb. 17 Lost to Jackson State, 81-79
Feb. 19 Defeated Alabama State, 83-69
Feb. 24 Won at Grambling, 78-72
March 8 Defeated Southern, 83-76
March 9 Defeated Jackson State, 111-94
|
| 14.1649 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Mon Mar 11 1996 15:28 | 12 |
|
I lost track if it was this note or another one where Nazz was crying about
the quality of UMass' #1 seed. Unbelievable...
UMass/Kentucky would/will be a great semifinal. Obviously, this is no stretch,
but I think the winner will come from UConn/UMass/Kentucky.
Even more certain is the fact that North Carolina and/or Arizona will
underachieve.
And I think Princeton is going to give Pete Carrill a nice retirement
gift...
|
| 14.1650 | watch out | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Mon Mar 11 1996 15:33 | 10 |
| >Even more certain is the fact that North Carolina and/or Arizona will
>underachieve.
Agree on Arizona. But with No Carolina, they'll be the dog if'n they win
anything which is a whole different beast with them.
As favorites, none choke better. As a dog, they've been known to beat
some people.
TTom
|
| 14.1651 | TTU 28-1 vs NIU 20-9 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 11 1996 15:35 | 142 |
| Texas Tech Red Raiders 28-1
---------------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 *Koy Smith G 6-5 180 SR
4 Gracen Averil G/F 6-5 210 JR
5 Brock Barnes G 6-5 200 SO
12 Deuce Jones G 6-1 180 JR
13 *Jason Martin G 5-10 175 SR
15 Stanley Bonewitz G 6-3 180 FR
20 *Darvin Ham F/C 6-7 220 SR
21 Cory Carr G 6-4 200 SO
24 *Tony Battie F/C 6-10 220 SO
32 Gionet Cooper F/C 6-8 220 JR
33 *Jason Sasser F 6-7 215 SR
42 Da'Mon Roberts F 6-7 210 JR
Coach: James Dickey
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sasser, J 28-28 177- 396 .447 25- 87 .287 153-211 .725 223- 8.0 81 76 2 20 19.0
Carr, C 29- 3 154- 343 .449 82-208 .394 78-103 .757 111- 3.8 46 34 4 18 16.1
Smith, K 28-28 121- 291 .416 70-198 .354 59- 75 .787 120- 4.3 54 60 7 24 13.3
Battie, T 27-26 104- 200 .520 3- 12 .250 49- 79 .620 241- 8.9 28 33 63 20 9.6
Ham, D 29-29 99- 175 .566 0- 1 .000 58-124 .468 167- 5.8 27 49 8 19 8.8
Martin, J 29-27 47- 140 .336 11- 39 .282 47- 74 .635 74- 2.6 65 47 2 24 5.2
Bonewitz, S 26- 0 41- 88 .466 29- 70 .414 13- 18 .722 30- 1.2 56 29 2 7 4.8
Cooper, G 28- 3 41- 79 .519 0- 0 .000 30- 50 .600 122- 4.4 13 23 23 5 4.0
Jones, D 19- 1 14- 33 .424 4- 17 .235 9- 15 .600 18- 0.9 27 9 0 11 2.2
Roberts, D 20- 0 17- 30 .567 0- 0 .000 5- 9 .556 32- 1.6 6 7 2 6 2.0
Barnes, B 12- 0 4- 17 .235 3- 14 .214 5- 6 .833 10- 0.8 3 4 2 0 1.3
Wafer, C 7- 0 1- 7 .143 0- 3 .000 0- 0 .000 3- 0.4 1 0 0 0 0.3
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Texas Tech 29 820-1799 .456 227-649 .350 506-764 .662 1239-42.7 507 371 115 154-81.8
Opponents 29 752-1818 .414 149-477 .312 324-477 .679 1043-36.0 369 386 85 168-68.2
Schedule/results
Nov. 26 Defeated Prairie View A&M, 101-54
Nov. 29 Won at Oklahoma, 81-69
Dec. 2 Won at Arkansas-Little Rock, 71-62
Dec. 9 Defeated Southwest Missouri State, 97-74
Dec. 14 Defeated Nicholls State, 95-56
Dec. 18 Defeated Old Dominion, 89-84
Dec. 22 Defeated Brigham Young, 81-71
Dec. 27 Lost to Eastern Michigan, 93-77
Dec. 28 Defeated La Salle, 62-58
Jan. 3 Defeated Montana State, 86-67
Jan. 6 Won at East Tennessee State, 99-81
Jan. 10 Won at Texas Christian, 90-86
Jan. 13 Defeated Texas A&M, 82-54
Jan. 17 Won at Baylor, 75-69
Jan. 20 Defeated Houston, 95-76
Jan. 23 Won at Southern Methodist, 72-60
Jan. 28 Defeated Texas, 79-78
Jan. 31 Won at Oral Roberts, 78-74
Feb. 3 Won at Rice, 79-57
Feb. 7 Defeated Texas Christian, 85-70
Feb. 10 Won at Texas A&M, 66-63
Feb. 14 Defeated Baylor, 78-72
Feb. 17 Won at Houston, 93-84
Feb. 20 Defeated Southern Methodist, 75-54
Feb. 24 Won at Texas, 75-58
March 2 Defeated Rice, 84-70
March 7 Defeated Texas A&M, 85-57
March 8 Defeated Rice, 68-53
March 9 Defeated Texas, 75-73
Northern Illinois Huskies 20-9
------------------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Marlin Simms F/C 6-5 192 SR
4 Jamal Robinson F 6-4 204 SR
5 *Ronald Minter G 5-9 158 JR
10 Donte Parker G 6-0 175 SO
13 Thomas Cook G 6-2 173 JR
15 Brad Johnson F 6-6 189 SO
24 *Vaurice Patterson G 6-0 171 SR
25 *Chris Coleman G/F 6-3 202 JR
35 *T.J. Lux F/C 6-8 201 FR
41 *Mike Hartke F/C 6-8 227 JR
42 Tywon Burnom F 6-6 226 FR
44 Pete Rohlwing C/F 6-8 222 SR
50 Mark Holland F 6-5 186 FR
Coach: Brian Hammel
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg Ast TO BS ST Pts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lux, T 29-29 170-305 .557 11- 32 .344 96-160 .600 257- 8.9 34 47 36 19 15.4
Minter, R 29-26 112-268 .418 28- 90 .311 97-125 .776 97- 3.3 130 74 5 55 12.0
Patterson, V 29-29 91 -222 .410 47-121 .388 19- 24 .792 110- 3.8 84 58 5 43 8.6
Coleman, C 16-13 74 -179 .413 31- 89 .348 36- 60 .600 97- 6.1 45 35 5 9 13.4
Robinson, J 14-14 76 -159 .478 5- 23 .217 44- 68 .647 116- 8.3 30 28 6 11 14.4
Hartke, M 27-15 73 -126 .579 1- 4 .250 45- 69 .652 94- 3.5 27 25 7 6 7.1
Simms, M 28- 1 51 -150 .340 37-112 .330 15- 56 .577 82- 2.9 24 18 14 13 5.5
Patterson, J 28- 0 48 -111 .432 0- 1 .000 29- 43 .674 85- 3.0 21 34 5 9 4.5
Parker, D 14-13 37 - 84 .440 26- 55 .473 12- 20 .600 47- 3.4 51 26 1 15 8.0
Rohlwing, P 26- 5 29 - 73 .397 2- 3 .667 14- 19 .737 42- 1.6 9 15 16 6 2.8
Cook, T 13- 0 9 - 19 .474 5- 12 .417 3- 4 .750 6- 0.5 1 6 1 2 2.0
Holland, M 15- 0 8 - 26 .308 0- 8 .000 6- 11 .545 24- 1.6 8 9 4 4 1.5
Burnom, T 7- 0 2 - 3 .667 0- 0 .--- 3- 8 .375 6- 1.0 0 3 0 0 1.0
Johnson, B 8- 0 1 - 2 .500 0- 0 .--- 2- 2 1.00 6- 0.8 1 0 3 0 0.5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NIU 29 781-1727 .452 193-550 .351 421-639 .659 1170-40.3 454 380 108 192 75.0
Opponents 29 689-1691 .407 168-507 .331 358-524 .685 975-33.6 379 395 103 196 65.7
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Aurora, 116-77
Nov. 27 Lost at Austin Peay, 68-65
Nov. 29 Lost to Southern Illinois, 65-63
Dec. 2 Lost to Bowling Green, 53-49
Dec. 4 Won at Wichita State, 77-52
Dec. 7 Won at Chicago State, 115-75
Dec. 19 Defeated Akron, 81-61
Dec. 22 Won at Air Force, 70-63
Dec. 28 Defeated Niagara, 69-54
Jan. 1 Won at Maine, 57-54
Jan. 4 Defeated Loyola, 65-62
Jan. 6 Defeated Detroit, 80-60
Jan. 11 Defeated Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 67-64
Jan. 13 Lost at Illinois-Chicago, 70-67
Jan. 18 Defeated Cleveland State, 76-62
Jan. 20 Defeated Butler, 84-57
Jan. 25 Lost at Wisconsin-Green Bay, 61-53
Jan. 29 Won at Wright State, 71-63
Feb. 3 Lost at Loyola, 72-68
Feb. 8 Defeated Illinois-Chicago, 98-90
Feb. 10 Lost to Wisconsin-Green Bay, 57-51
Feb. 15 Won at Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 100-90
Feb. 17 Lost at Butler, 73-58
Feb. 22 Won at Cleveland State, 61-53
Feb. 24 Defeated Wright State, 81-71
Feb. 26 Lost at Detroit, 77-75
March 2 Defeated Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 80-78
March 3 Defeated Illinois-Chicago, 95-60
March 5 Defeated Detroit, 84-63
|
| 14.1652 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Mon Mar 11 1996 15:54 | 4 |
| >00 *Koy Smith G 6-5 180 SR
TTech must be good - they've got a starter named after a
decorative fish!
|
| 14.1653 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | I'm tired of SNOW.... | Mon Mar 11 1996 16:05 | 7 |
|
re .1651,
Stop posting all the players names. :^), Your giving away some
of my secret names for the annual Nazz NCAA scoring tourney.
Ron
|
| 14.1654 | you were right: the refs sucked :=] | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Mon Mar 11 1996 16:06 | 6 |
| re: .1651
Please continue posting all the players names.
TTom
|
| 14.1655 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Mon Mar 11 1996 16:08 | 3 |
|
Please stop providing valid information such as players' names. This
can only serve to confuse the masses... :-) :-)
|
| 14.1656 | Marquette 22-7 vs Monmouth 20-9 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 11 1996 16:36 | 139 |
| Marquette Golden Eagles 22-7
----------------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
00 *Amal McCaskill F/C 6-11 235 SR
3 *Anthony Pieper G 6-3 185 JR
4 Dwaine Streater F/C 6-8 205 SR
5 *Chris Crawford F 6-9 225 JR
12 *Aaron Hutchins G 5-10 170 SO
13 *Roney Eford G/F 6-6 205 SR
21 Mike Bargen G/F 6-7 195 FR
25 Zack McCall G 6-3 215 SO
33 Mark Harris G 5-8 150 SR
34 Richard Shaw C/F 6-11 220 SO
40 Faisal Abraham F 6-7 220 JR
45 Jarrod Lovette C 6-10 250 FR
Coach: Mike Deane
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg Ast TO BS ST Pts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hutchins 26-25 111-297 .374 59-158 .373 70- 85 .824 106- 4.0 181 77 2 35 13.5
Eford 26-26 129-299 .431 27- 77 .351 59- 79 .747 139- 5.3 40 46 12 21 13.2
Crawford 26-22 96 -233 .412 28- 77 .364 74-103 .718 107- 4.1 25 40 0 18 11.3
Pieper 25-23 88 -209 .421 48-128 .375 56- 66 .848 75- 3.0 47 41 3 16 11.2
McCaskill 25-25 110-193 .570 1- 2 .500 51- 78 .654 216- 8.6 34 64 51 16 10.8
Abraham 26- 7 55 - 96 .573 0- 0 .--- 22- 39 .564 142- 5.5 9 23 51 6 5.1
McCall 25- 1 32 - 73 .438 9- 29 .310 16- 26 .615 24- 1.0 22 20 0 10 3.6
Shaw 24- 0 27 - 53 .509 0- 1 .000 16- 31 .516 51- 2.1 5 11 7 10 2.9
Bargen 17- 0 12 - 30 .400 6- 20 .300 5- 10 .500 16- 0.9 13 8 3 6 2.1
Lovette 22- 0 6 - 22 .273 0- 1 .000 17- 26 .654 32- 1.5 4 8 4 4 1.3
Streater 19- 1 3 - 16 .188 0- 3 .000 3- 4 .750 9- 0.5 1 5 5 0 0.5
Harris 13- 0 2 - 5 .400 0- 0 .--- 5- 6 .833 9- 0.7 3 5 0 0 0.7
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marquette 26 671-1526 .440 178-496 .359 394-553 .712 1024-39.4 393 353 147 142 73.6
Opponents 26 571-1477 .387 134-438 .306 378-553 .684 1067-33.6 314 343 76 163 63.6
Schedule/Results
Nov. 26 Defeated Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 91-74
Dec. 1 Defeated Columbia, 72-45
Dec. 2 Defeated Wisconsin-Green Bay, 64-44
Dec. 6 Defeated Coppin State, 95-69
Dec. 9 Lost to La Salle, 68-65
Dec. 16 Defeated Santa Clara, 78-49
Dec. 22 Defeated Vermont, 89-58
Dec. 31 Lost at Wisconsin, 55-46
Jan. 2 Defeated Morgan State, 98-58
Jan. 7 Defeated St. Louis, 69-47
Jan. 10 Defeated Iowa State, 58-56
Jan. 13 Lost at Cincinnati, 91-70
Jan. 15 Defeated Illinois-Chicago, 103-81
Jan. 17 Won at DePaul, 73-60
Jan. 20 Defeated Memphis, 59-55
Jan. 25 Lost at UNC-Charlotte, 79-69
Jan. 30 Defeated Alabama-Birmingham, 73-64
Feb. 4 Lost at Tulane, 75-74
Feb. 7 Defeated South Florida, 82-61
Feb. 11 Defeated DePaul, 75-65
Feb. 14 Won at Creighton, 63-57
Feb. 18 Won at Southern Mississippi, 58-55
Feb. 22 Defeated UNC-Charlotte, 78-68
Feb. 25 Lost at St. Louis, 69-58
Feb. 28 Won at Louisville, 80-79
March 2 Defeated Cincinnati, 74-72
March 7 Defeated South Florida, 65-56
March 8 Defeated Memphis, 72-60
Monmouth Hawks 20-9
-------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Jeff Franklin G 6-1 175 JR
4 Quincy Lee G/F 6-4 185 JR
10 John Giraldo G 5-11 165 SR
11 Charles Richards C 6-8 205 SO
12 Giedrius Aidietis F 6-8 215 JR
15 Jack Gordon G/F 6-6 185 SR
20 Gintautas Vileita G/F 6-3 185 SO
21 Maurice Williams G 6-1 165 FR
23 Corey Albano F 6-8 205 JR
34 Mustafa Barksdale G 6-4 185 JR
40 Pat Flynn F 6-7 215 SR
50 Matthew Morgan C 6-9 200 FR
Coach: Wayne Szoke
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb-Avg AT BS TO ST Avg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
23 Albano, C 28-28 173-302 .673 3-14 .214 131-180 .728 200-7.1 22 28 71 33 17.1
10 Giraldo, J 28-28 139-308 .451 57-123 .463 72-103 .699 103-3.7 122 2 50 87 14.5
04 Lee, Q 28-27 104-222 .468 10-35 .286 68-86 .791 79-2.8 38 60 57 15 10.2
34 Barksdale, M 28-27 97-219 .443 34-87 .391 43-60 .717 99-3.5 93 5 48 45 9.7
15 Gordon, J 28-1 88-184 .478 15-45 .333 56-77 .727 126-4.7 57 5 53 24 9.1
12 Aidietis 27-26 46-124 .395 0-0 .000 33-52 .635 118-4.4 52 37 35 24 4.9
03 Franklin, J 28-1 12-34 .353 3-14 .214 17-24 .708 36-1.3 35 0 25 13 1.6
40 Flynn, D 25-2 15-26 .667 0-2 .000 4-13 .308 32-1.3 6 7 10 6 1.4
21 Williams, M 13-0 7-20 .350 1-7 .143 11-16 .688 8-0.6 3 1 12 1 2.0
50 Morgan, M 12-1 7-13 .518 0-0 .000 5-10 .500 8-0.7 0 4 4 1 1.6
20 Vileita, G 12-1 3-7 .429 1-0 .000 2-6 .333 11-0.9 3 1 6 2 0.7
05 Chiera, C 2-0 2-6 .333 0-2 .000 1-2 .500 4-0.4 2 0 1 1 0.6
44 Boff, D 8-0 1-5 .200 0-1 .000 1-2 .500 2-0.3 2 0 4 0 0.4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monmouth 28 697-1470 .474 123-380 .373 444-631 .704 927-33.1 405 160 432 162 70.0
Opponents 28 643-1544 .416 209-589 .358 333-493 .685 952-34.0 333 71 364 211 65.2
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Lost to Fairfield, 81-79
Nov. 28 Lost at Seton Hall, 83-67
Nov. 30 Lost at Rutgers, 57-55
Dec. 2 Defeated Army, 78-57
Dec. 9 Lost at Manhattan, 74-46
Dec. 12 Won at Princeton, 65-56
Dec. 21 Defeated Loyola (Md.), 73-59
Dec. 28 Lost at Duke, 69-53
Jan. 6 Defeated Rider, 79-54
Jan. 9 Defeated St. Francis (N.Y.), 74-65
Jan. 11 Won at St. Francis (Pa.), 74-59
Jan. 13 Won at Robert Morris, 73-62
Jan. 17 Defeated Mount St. Mary's, 82-77
Jan. 20 Won at Long Island, 71-55
Jan. 22 Won at Fairleigh Dickinson, 59-52
Jan. 25 Lost to Marist, 81-75
Jan. 27 Defeated Wagner, 78-68
Feb. 3 Won at Rider, 70-66
Feb. 5 Won at St. Francis (N.Y.), 82-63
Feb. 8 Lost to St. Francis (Pa.), 85-72
Feb. 10 Defeated Robert Morris, 75-54
Feb. 14 Lost at Mount St. Mary's, 73-63
Feb. 17 Defeated Long Island, 85-68
Feb. 19 Defeated Fairleigh Dickinson, 86-75
Feb. 24 Won at Wagner, 77-68
Feb. 26 Lost at Marist, 56-49
March 1 Defeated Wagner, 64-55
March 4 Defeated Marist, 57-56
March 8 Defeated Rider, 60-59
|
| 14.1657 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Mar 11 1996 18:26 | 1 |
| Anyone got the bracket in electronic form ?
|
| 14.1658 | See how the second tier matches up | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Mon Mar 11 1996 18:45 | 3 |
| Anyone got the NIT bracket?
NAZZ
|
| 14.1659 | another guy making Bumheim look good | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Mar 11 1996 19:07 | 3 |
| Can anyone tell me what's wrong with Roy Williams ? I thought this
Kansas team could win it all this year. Now I don't know if they'll
get out of the 2nd round.
|
| 14.1660 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Mon Mar 11 1996 19:15 | 3 |
| >Can anyone tell me what's wrong with Roy Williams ?
He's a Dean Smith protege. What else do you need to know?
|
| 14.1661 | Don't want to mess up the other note with this jabber | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Mon Mar 11 1996 19:37 | 7 |
| I get a humongous kick out of Nazz's eight points contest picks. He
doesn't have one Big East guy out there. Granted the double points are
tempting but I would have had four BE's if I could have.
I couldn't even fit Allen in there. But Danya Abrams is going to win
the whole thing with his four 20 point games (yes boys and girls, BC is
going to knock off Conn. - Shaughnessy had the wrong tournement).
|
| 14.1662 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Tue Mar 12 1996 11:40 | 7 |
|
Is anybody picking Arizona to win anything, or did we all learn
our lessons finally?
:^)
- Sean
|
| 14.1663 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Tue Mar 12 1996 12:34 | 4 |
| > Is anybody picking Arizona to win anything, or did we all learn
> our lessons finally?
I learned my lesson years ago. What's your deal? :-)
|
| 14.1664 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | SPORTS 1995 NOTY & RED_SOX Most Knowledgeable Noter Award! | Tue Mar 12 1996 13:10 | 2 |
| 14.1665 | PSU 21-6 vs Arkansas 18-12 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 15:50 | 150 |
| Penn State Nittany Lions 21-6
-----------------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 Bryan Machamer F 6-5 205 JR
3 Joseph Pryor G 6-4 175 FR
4 Jeremy Metzger C/F 6-10 250 SR
10 *Dan Earl G 6-4 180 JR
11 Chris Rogers G 5-11 170 SR
14 Damien McKnight G 6-2 170 SO
15 Rahsaan Carlton F 6-6 220 SR
20 Carlton Langley G 6-0 165 SO
21 Dana Fritz G 6-2 200 SR
23 Aaron Jack F 6-8 215 FR
24 *Matt Gaudio F 6-8 240 SR
31 Jarrett Stephens G 6-6 245 SR
32 *Pete Lisicky G 6-4 190 SO
33 *Glenn Sekunda F 6-8 225 SR
45 Phil Williams F/C 6-8 265 JR
52 *Calvin Booth C 6-11 205 SO
Coach: Jerry Dunn
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
33 Sekunda, G 22-22 103-239 .431 37- 75 .493 67-86 .779 6.0 41 57 7 11 14.1
24 Gaudio, M 21-21 92-180 .511 9- 21 .429 89-114 .781 6.5 34 52 6 28 13.4
32 Lisicky, P 21-20 97-202 .480 67-141 .475 12-16 .750 3.1 50 30 3 16 13.0
10 Earl, D 22-22 74-157 .471 35- 81 .432 63-93 .677 2.6 124 57 1 32 11.2
52 Booth, C 22-22 81-150 .540 0- 1 .000 52-79 .658 5.5 28 36 89 15 9.7
12 Williams, D 22- 2 37-78 .474 1- 9 .111 16-22 .727 2.5 38 35 0 25 4.1
45 Williams, P 22- 1 32-67 .478 0- 0 .000 21-36 .583 4.9 9 22 2 8 3.9
31 Stephens, J 20- 0 21-45 .467 0- 2 .000 16-22 .727 1.9 6 10 9 5 2.9
14 McKnight, D 21- 0 21-49 .429 4- 22 .182 10-20 .500 0.7 32 22 2 9 2.7
04 Metzger, J 21- 0 14-34 .412 0- 0 .000 13-26 .500 2.2 7 12 2 6 2.0
23 Jack, A 4- 0 2-8 .250 0- 1 .000 3-4 .750 2.5 0 5 0 1 1.8
34 Robinson, J 2- 0 1-2 .500 0- 0 .000 1-2 .500 1.0 0 0 0 0 1.5
01 Machamer, B 4- 0 1-3 .333 0- 0 .000 0-0 .000 0.3 2 0 0 0 0.5
21 Fritz, D 6- 0 1-4 .250 0- 2 .000 0-0 .000 0.5 1 2 0 0 0.3
11 Rogers, C 7- 0 1-1 1.000 0- 0 .000 0-0 .000 0.6 3 1 0 1 0.3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Penn State 22 578-1219 .474 153-355 .431 363-520 .698 39.1 380 375 121 157 76.0
Opponents 22 528-1295 .408 107-323 .331 237-361 .657 31.5 420 278 71 149 63.6
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Morgan State, 90-65
Nov. 27 Defeated Vermont, 99-61
Nov. 30 Defeated Virginia Military, 99-73
Dec. 2 Won at Tennessee, 69-57
Dec. 9 Defeated Pennsylvania, 88-61
Dec. 17 Defeated Tennessee-Chattanooga, 81-48
Dec. 22 Defeated Bucknell, 85-54
Dec. 29 Won at Santa Clara, 70-49
Dec. 30 Defeated Bradley, 75-72
Jan. 3 Won at Ohio State, 72-69
Jan. 7 Defeated Wisconsin, 79-50
Jan. 11 Defeated Minnesota, 76-61
Jan. 13 Won at Northwestern, 83-74
Jan. 21 Lost at Michigan, 67-66
Jan. 24 Defeated Purdue, 87-77
Jan. 27 Defeated Indiana, 82-68
Jan. 31 Lost at Michigan State, 61-58
Feb. 3 Won at Iowa, 95-87
Feb. 8 Defeated Illinois, 61-58
Feb. 10 Defeated Michigan State, 54-50
Feb. 14 Lost at Indiana, 72-54
Feb. 17 Lost at Purdue, 66-49
Feb. 22 Defeated Michigan, 67-57
Feb. 28 Defeated Northwestern, 78-62
March 2 Lost at Minnesota, 65-60
March 6 Lost at Wisconsin, 54-52
March 9 Defeated Ohio State, 86-70
Arkansas Razorbacks 18-12
-------------------------
NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
4 Jesse Pate G 6-4 195 JR
5 Ali Thompson F 6-5 200 FR
12 *Kareem Reid G 5-10 165 FR
13 John Engskov G 6-3 195 JR
15 Marlon Towns G 6-4 195 FR
21 Landis Williams F 6-7 205 SO
22 *Pat Bradley G 6-2 185 FR
23 *Antwon Hall F 6-4 185 JR
24 Guy Whitney G 6-5 195 SO
31 Nicky Davis F 6-9 195 SO
33 Lee Wilson C 6-11 260 JR
35 Reggie Merritt G 6-1 165 SR
40 Sunday Adebayo F 6-6 212 JR
44 *Darnell Robinson C 6-11 260 SO
55 *Derek Hood F 6-8 205 FR
Coach: Nolan Richardson
Player G-GS G-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pate, J 21-14 102-251 .406 30- 99 .303 48- 67 .716 2.9 25 40 5 25 13.4
Reid, K 27-25 124-296 .419 23- 86 .267 83-126 .659 3.1 173 103 0 51 13.1
Robinson, D 14-10 73-153 .477 3- 13 .231 22- 46 .478 6.7 12 27 15 8 12.2
Adebayo, S 22-14 95-166 .572 0- 0 .000 42- 69 .609 7.6 30 50 8 30 10.5
Bradley, P 27-11 75-195 .385 56-150 .373 35- 45 .778 1.9 34 34 0 23 8.9
Hood, D 27-22 88-177 .497 0- 0 .000 19- 56 .339 5.4 31 58 19 26 7.2
Wilson, L 27-18 73-136 .537 0- 0 .000 24- 46 .522 4.6 19 42 29 12 6.3
Towns, M 16- 3 27-77 .351 16- 56 .286 18- 26 .692 1.3 25 17 0 14 5.5
Davis, N 26- 4 35-95 .368 3- 15 .200 30- 40 .750 3.0 12 24 17 17 4.0
Hall, A 25-10 36-93 .387 13- 45 .289 9- 24 .375 1.5 17 23 13 13 3.8
Williams, L 23- 2 30-59 .508 0- 5 .000 22- 35 .629 1.6 7 15 8 10 3.6
Thompson, A 24- 2 28-63 .444 0- 4 .000 20- 28 .714 1.9 15 17 5 11 3.2
Engskov, J 4- 0 3-3 1.000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.8 0 0 0 1 1.5
Whitney, G 3- 0 1-2 .500 1- 1 1.000 0- 0 .000 0.3 1 1 0 0 1.0
Merritt, R 5- 0 0-3 .000 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 0.6 2 2 0 1 0.0
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arkansas 27 790-1769 .447 145-475 .305 372-608 .612 39.6 403 453 119 242 77.7
Opponents 27 677-1670 .405 180-546 .330 461-697 .661 40.6 393 540 85 230 73.9
Schedule/results
Nov. 15 Defeated Northeast Louisiana, 75-67
Nov. 17 Lost to Arizona, 83-73
Nov. 28 Lost to Michigan State, 75-72
Nov. 30 Defeated North Carolina A&T, 103-49
Dec. 2 Defeated Alcorn State, 116-75
Dec. 5 Defeated Missouri, 104-93
Dec. 9 Lost to Cincinnati, 82-67
Dec. 21 Defeated Southern Methodist, 73-46
Dec. 23 Defeated Tennessee State, 86-67
Dec. 31 Defeated Jackson State, 86-77
Jan. 3 Defeated Florida, 75-60
Jan. 6 Lost at Auburn, 101-76
Jan. 10 Won at Mississippi, 63-62
Jan. 13 Lost to Vanderbilt, 80-73
Jan. 18 Lost at Memphis, 94-72
Jan. 20 Defeated Mississippi State, 80-68
Jan. 23 Won at Alabama, 71-63
Jan. 27 Defeated Oral Roberts, 66-65
Jan. 30 Defeated Louisiana State, 76-68
Feb. 3 Defeated South Carolina, 81-69
Feb. 6 Lost at Mississippi State, 78-63
Feb. 11 Lost at Kentucky, 88-73
Feb. 14 Defeated Mississippi, 79-73
Feb. 17 Defeated Auburn, 87-77
Feb. 21 Lost at Tennessee, 66-59
Feb. 25 Lost at Georgia, 71-59
Feb. 28 Lost to Alabama, 98-89
March 2 Won at Louisiana State, 94-79
March 8 Defeated South Carolina, 80-58
March 9 Lost to Kentucky, 95-75
|
| 14.1666 | UNC 20-10 vs UNO 21-8 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 15:58 | 140 |
| North Carolina Tar Heels 20-10
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Shammond Williams G 6-3 180 SO
4 David Neal G 6-0 165 SR
5 *Jeff McInnis G 6-4 185 JR
13 *Ademola Okulaja F 6-7 220 FR
14 Ryan Sullivan G 6-2 185 FR
15 Vince Carter G/F 6-5 203 FR
22 Webb Tyndall G 5-11 165 JR
24 *Dante Calabria G/F 6-5 195 SR
33 *Antawn Jamison F 6-7 212 FR
34 Charlie McNairy F 6-6 199 JR
40 Ed Geth F/C 6-8 260 JR
44 Clyde Lynn G 6-3 204 SR
45 *Serge Zwikker C 7-2 265 JR
Coach: Dean Smith
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Pts
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McInnis, J 28-26 155- 360 .431 56-145 .386 79-101 .782 2.4 151 69 0 35 15.9
Jamison, A 29-26 181- 292 .620 0- 1 .000 77-141 .546 9.8 31 55 30 22 15.1
Calabria, D 29-29 126- 292 .432 72-180 .400 51- 72 .708 4.4 124 64 1 29 12.9
Zwikker, S 29-28 132- 248 .532 0- 0 .000 26- 44 .591 6.3 22 38 46 3 10.0
Williams, S 29- 2 78- 171 .456 42-105 .400 50- 64 .781 2.5 60 55 0 13 8.6
Carter, V 28-19 81- 164 .494 16- 46 .348 27- 41 .659 3.9 37 35 17 19 7.3
Okulaja, A 29-12 57- 108 .528 17- 34 .500 46- 62 .742 5.4 65 60 7 33 6.1
McNairy, C 13- 0 6- 9 .667 0- 0 .000 10- 13 .769 0.5 3 4 0 0 1.7
Sullivan, R 9- 0 4- 4 1.000 3- 3 1.000 0- 0 .000 0.4 2 1 0 1 1.2
Geth, E 22- 1 9- 24 .375 0- 1 .000 7- 18 .389 0.9 6 6 1 1 1.1
Lynn, C 14- 1 3- 11 .273 2- 6 .333 3- 4 .750 0.4 1 3 0 1 0.8
Neal, D 13- 1 2- 4 .500 1- 2 .500 1- 2 .500 0.4 6 1 0 2 0.5
Tyndall, W 6- 0 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 1- 2 .500 0.0 3 0 0 0 0.2
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Totals 29 834-1688 .494 209-523 .400 378-564 .670 39.0 511 394 102 159 77.8
Opponents 29 742-1835 .404 283-797 .355 277-414 .669 32.8 412 347 76 208 70.5
Schedule/results
Nov. 20 Defeated Vanderbilt, 71-63
Nov. 21 Defeated Michigan State, 92-70
Nov. 22 Lost to Villanova, 77-75
Nov. 28 Defeated Richmond, 83-76
Dec. 1 Defeated Tulane, 89-71
Dec. 2 Defeated Stanford, 87-63
Dec. 7 Defeated Georgia, 85-74
Dec. 16 Defeated Dartmouth, 96-66
Dec. 20 Won at Pittsburgh, 66-49
Dec. 28 Won at UNC-Asheville, 66-49
Dec. 30 Lost at Texas, 74-72
Jan. 4 Defeated North Carolina State, 96-72
Jan. 6 Won at Maryland, 88-86
Jan. 10 Lost at Georgia Tech, 80-77
Jan. 14 Defeated Clemson, 86-53
Jan. 17 Won at Virginia, 67-53
Jan. 20 Lost at Villanova, 76-56
Jan. 24 Won at Florida State, 82-71
Jan. 27 Defeated Wake Forest, 65-59
Jan. 31 Defeated Duke, 73-72
Feb. 3 Lost at North Carolina State, 78-75
Feb. 6 Lost to Maryland, 84-78
Feb. 10 Lost to Georgia Tech, 92-83
Feb. 14 Won at Clemson, 53-48
Feb. 17 Defeated Virginia, 71-66
Feb. 22 Defeated Virginia Military, 99-76
Feb. 24 Lost to Florida State, 84-80
Feb. 27 Lost at Wake Forest, 84-60
March 3 Won at Duke, 84-78
March 8 Lost to Clemson, 75-73
New Orleans Privateers 21-8
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 *Tyrone Garris G 6-0 165 SR
4 Kwan Johnson F 6-5 185 JR
5 *Lewis Sims F 6-8 230 SR
10 Joe Chavis F 6-5 165 SR
12 *Jason Wright G 6-1 190 JR
20 Jermaine Spivey G/F 6-3 185 SR
21 Sean Long G 6-0 185 JR
23 *Gevon Garner C 6-9 218 SR
24 Corey Brown G 6-4 186 SO
44 *James Douglas F 6-5 240 SR
52 Andy Seigle F/C 6-10 225 SR
Coach: Tic Price
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Pts
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Garris, T 29-28 144-366 .393 65-162 .401 86-104 .827 4.1 107 78 5 38 15.1
Sims, L 29-22 154-309 .498 15- 45 .333 60-115 .522 7.6 26 85 12 27 13.2
Douglas, J 29-23 116-223 .520 0- 0 .000 58- 88 .659 6.0 11 42 4 21 10.0
Johnson, K 29-16 88-169 .521 11- 42 .262 63- 96 .656 4.0 53 51 9 32 8.6
Spivey, J 25- 7 60-156 .385 41-108 .380 32- 47 .681 3.2 53 39 5 14 7.7
Wright, J 29-15 51-127 .402 27- 77 .351 50- 65 .769 2.0 84 55 2 16 6.2
Brown, C 27- 8 37- 86 .430 9- 36 .250 24- 36 .667 1.3 51 56 6 21 4.0
Garner, G 29-24 42- 94 .447 0- 1 .000 30- 52 .577 5.3 20 33 16 17 3.9
Seigle, A 29- 2 41- 73 .562 0- 0 .000 17- 33 .515 1.8 6 29 21 9 3.4
Long, S 20- 0 20- 45 .444 14- 33 .424 3- 4 .750 0.7 7 17 0 6 2.9
Chavia, J 8- 0 2- 7 .286 1- 4 .250 0- 0 .000 0.4 2 3 0 1 0.6
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New Orleans 29 755-1655 .456 183-508 .360 423-640 .661 38.3 420 488 80 202 73.0
Opponents 29 697-1660 .420 147-431 .341 419-651 .644 33.8 362 442 100 219 67.6
Schedule/results
Dec. 2 Lost at Bradley, 87-72
Dec. 7 Won at Southern Mississippi, 68-66
Dec. 16 Won at Middle Tennessee State, 69-67
Dec. 18 Lost to Oregon State, 68-61
Dec. 22 Lost to Villanova, 80-72
Dec. 27 Defeated San Francisco, 94-84
Dec. 28 Defeated Virginia Commonwealth, 92-75
Dec. 31 Lost at Western Kentucky, 94-80
Jan. 4 Won at Texas-Pan American, 69-50
Jan. 6 Lost at Lamar, 76-70
Jan. 11 Defeated Arkansas-Little Rock, 78-65
Jan. 13 Defeated Arkansas State, 79-70
Jan. 16 Lost to Tulane, 86-77
Jan. 18 Defeated Louisiana Tech, 70-45
Jan. 20 Won at Southwestern Louisiana, 67-59
Jan. 25 Defeated Jacksonville, 73-69
Jan. 27 Defeated Texas-Pan American, 58-54
Feb. 1 Defeated Western Kentucky, 90-82
Feb. 4 Lost at South Alabama, 55-54
Feb. 8 Lost at Arkansas-Little Rock, 69-66
Feb. 10 Won at Arkansas State, 69-66
Feb. 15 Won at Jacksonville, 97-88
Feb. 17 Defeated South Alabama, 72-50
Feb. 19 Won at Louisiana Tech, 70-61
Feb. 22 Defeated Lamar, 84-48
Feb. 24 Defeated Southwestern Louisiana, 66-62
March 2 Defeated Louisiana Tech, 67-57
March 3 Defeated Southwestern Louisiana, 75-71
March 5 Defeated Arkansas-Little Rock, 57-56
|
| 14.1667 | UNM 27-4 vs KSU 17-11 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 16:06 | 148 |
| New Mexico Lobos 27-4
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
4 *Kenny Thomas F/C 6-9 250 FR
5 *Charles Smith G 6-4 185 JR
11 Kavossy Franklin G 6-2 185 JR
13 Marcos White G 5-7 145 FR
15 Tre Carruthers G 6-1 165 SO
22 *Clayton Shields F 6-8 205 SO
30 Royce Olney G 6-2 175 SO
32 *David Gibson G 6-2 165 SO
42 Chris Paddock C 7-0 235 SO
45 *Greg Schornstein F 6-7 215 JR
50 Marty Cotwright C 6-8 225 SR
55 Daniel Santiago C 7-1 245 SO
Coach: Dave Bliss
Player G-GS FG- FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Smith, C 28-28 199- 415 .480 58-150 .387 93-118 .788 4.7 89 64 25 53 19.6
Thomas, K 28-24 145- 254 .571 0- 3 .000 120-167 .719 7.7 45 86 45 14 14.6
Shields, C 28-28 135- 279 .484 51-124 .411 53- 81 .654 6.1 42 69 17 15 13.4
Olney, R 27- 0 60- 124 .484 34- 78 .436 72- 90 .800 2.4 67 43 2 26 8.4
Schornstein, G 28-20 65- 134 .485 25- 58 .431 48- 74 .649 3.6 66 47 2 28 7.3
Gibson, D 28-27 62- 127 .488 3- 28 .107 51- 88 .580 3.2 96 46 7 22 6.4
Lewis, S 3- 0 5- 9 .556 1- 4 .250 2- 2 1.000 .3 1 4 0 0 4.3
Simpson, S 13- 6 20- 35 .571 0- 0 .000 10- 18 .556 3.5 6 14 6 8 3.8
Santiago, D 28- 4 35- 50 .700 0- 0 .000 31- 44 .705 1.6 4 23 14 2 3.6
Franklin, K 14- 2 12- 41 .293 6- 16 .375 10- 15 .667 1.7 17 6 0 7 2.9
Cotwright, M 18- 0 10- 16 .625 0- 0 .000 2- 8 .250 1.7 1 8 3 3 1.2
Paddock, C 6- 0 3- 8 .375 0- 0 .000 0- 2 .000 .5 0 3 0 1 1.0
White, M 3- 0 1- 3 .333 0- 2 .000 0- 0 .000 .3 0 0 0 0 .7
Carruthers, T 2- 0 0- 2 .000 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 .0 1 0 0 2 .0
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New Mexico 28 752-1497 .502 178-464 .384 492-707 .696 33.1 435 415 121 181 77.6
Opponents 28 705-1684 .419 150-468 .321 378-549 .689 32.7 355 353 56 203 69.2
Schedule/results
Nov. 17 Defeated Simon Fraser, 81-67
Nov. 24 Defeated Texas-Arlington, 76-56
Nov. 25 Defeated Mercer, 107-72
Nov. 29 Defeated Texas-Pan American, 80-56
Dec. 5 Won at Arizona State, 86-79
Dec. 8 Defeated New Mexico State, 91-75
Dec. 16 Won at New Mexico State, 69-68
Dec. 19 Defeated Southwest Texas State, 72-62
Dec. 28 Defeated Dartmouth, 91-66
Dec. 29 Defeated Boston University, 95-83
Jan. 2 Lost to Fresno State, 76-75
Jan. 4 Won at Air Force, 61-49
Jan. 8 Defeated San Diego State, 77-74
Jan. 10 Defeated Hawaii, 78-72
Jan. 13 Lost at Wyoming, 61-58
Jan. 15 Won at Colorado State, 67-65
Jan. 20 Won at Texas-El Paso, 64-60
Jan. 25 Defeated Brigham Young, 83-77
Jan. 27 Lost to Utah, 82-64
Feb. 1 Won at Brigham Young, 88-81
Feb. 3 Lost at Utah, 74-58
Feb. 10 Defeated Texas-El Paso, 81-52
Feb. 17 Defeated Wyoming, 70-69
Feb. 19 Defeated Colorado State, 78-66
Feb. 22 Won at San Diego State, 83-78
Feb. 24 Won at Hawaii, 88-79
Feb. 29 Defeated Air Force, 67-55
March 2 Defeated Fresno State, 86-84
March 7 Defeated San Diego State, 94-75
March 8 Defeated Fresno State, 104-99
March 9 Defeated Utah, 64-60
Kansas State Wildcats 17-11
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 *Elliot Hatcher G 6-0 175 SR
5 *Mark Young G/F 6-6 190 SO
12 *Ayome May G/F 6-6 185 FR
13 Chris Griffin G 6-2 205 SO
21 Aaron Swartzendruber G 6-2 175 SO
25 Brian Gavin G 6-1 180 SR
33 George Hill C 6-8 225 SR
34 Chris Marsh G 6-1 185 FR
35 Shawn Rhodes F 6-10 215 FR
44 *Tyrone Davis C 6-8 235 SR
45 *Gerald Eaker C 6-11 240 JR
50 Manny Dies F 6-8 215 FR
53 Johnny Williams C 6-9 240 JR
Coach: Tom Asbury
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Pts
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Hatcher, E 24-24 128-290 .441 45-117 .385 102-123 .829 3.0 82 74 2 58 16.8
Davis, T 26-25 122-229 .533 0- 1 .000 113-172 .661 8.3 32 69 13 39 13.7
Young, M 26-22 75 -198 .379 19- 52 .365 48- 88 .545 5.0 81 86 1 26 8.3
May, A 26-24 78 -168 .464 7- 28 .250 23- 35 .657 3.8 20 39 3 16 7.2
Eaker, G 24-22 71 -155 .458 0- 0 .--- 35- 66 .530 5.0 25 40 58 10 7.4
Swartzendrube 26- 5 54 -131 .412 25- 66 .379 43- 59 .729 2.4 42 32 0 19 6.8
Rhodes, S 26- 3 44 -101 .436 9- 24 .375 21- 33 .636 3.5 24 17 20 12 4.5
Hubert, A 19- 1 26 - 85 .306 12- 46 .261 16- 28 .571 1.6 24 20 0 9 4.2
Dies, M 20- 2 14 - 48 .292 0- 0 .--- 9- 23 .450 1.6 7 16 11 7 1.9
Williams, J 17- 0 11 - 28 .393 0- 0 .--- 8- 22 .364 1.4 1 18 3 2 1.8
Gavin, B 14- 1 6 - 23 .261 4- 13 .308 8- 12 .667 0.6 11 6 0 1 1.7
Hill, G 10- 1 0 - 2 .000 0- 0 .--- 4- 5 .800 0.6 1 2 0 0 0.4
Karsh, C 3- 0 0 - 1 .000 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .--- 0.3 0 0 0 0 0.0
Lolar, B 1- 0 0 - 1 .000 0- 0 .--- 0- 0 .--- 1.0 0 1 0 0 0.0
Griffin, C 0- 0 0 - 0 .--- 0- 0 .--- 0- 0 .--- 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Kansas State 26 529-1450 .431 121-348 .348 430-663 .649 37.7 350 422 111 179 69.5
Opponents 26 611-1525 .401 159-461 .345 397-584 .680 36.1 353 409 62 221 68.4
Schedule/Results
Nov. 25 Defeated Bradley, 75-72
Nov. 29 Defeated Emporia State, 63-57
Dec. 2 Defeated Marshall, 106-88
Dec. 4 Lost at Illinois, 82-56
Dec. 9 Lost at Washington, 74-60
Dec. 16 Lost to Michigan State, 67-54
Dec. 18 Defeated Morgan State, 69-60
Dec. 20 Defeated Xavier (Ohio), 73-67
Dec. 22 Won at Missouri-Kansas City, 69-54
Dec. 28 Defeated Loyola (Md.), 76-69
Dec. 29 Won at California, 65-58
Jan. 2 Defeated Wichita State, 70-64
Jan. 6 Defeated Iowa State, 72-55
Jan. 9 Lost to Oklahoma, 64-59
Jan. 13 Won at Colorado, 70-57
Jan. 20 Won at Oklahoma, 75-60
Jan. 24 Defeated Oklahoma State, 62-59
Jan. 27 Lost at Missouri, 86-80
Jan. 31 Defeated Nebraska, 77-68
Feb. 4 Lost at Kansas, 72-62
Feb. 7 Lost to Colorado, 64-63
Feb. 10 Lost at Oklahoma State, 83-60
Feb. 21 Defeated Missouri, 69-64
Feb. 24 Lost to Kansas, 77-66
Feb. 28 Won at Iowa State, 92-87
March 3 Lost at Nebraska, 70-66
March 8 Defeated Oklahoma State, 58-55
March 9 Lost to Kansas, 61-55
|
| 14.1668 | Bradley 22-7 vs Stanford 19-8 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 16:10 | 142 |
| Bradley Braves 22-7
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 Ben Coupet F/C 6-11 205 JR
5 Aaron Zobrist G 6-1 165 JR
10 Eric Roberson G 6-4 175 FR
12 *Billy Wright G 5-10 170 SR
21 Marcus Samuels G 5-11 165 SO
24 *Anthony Parker G 6-5 185 SO
25 Kerry Burrell G 6-3 175 JR
30 Chad Kleine F/C 6-8 225 SR
32 Gavin Schairer F 6-7 200 FR
34 *Dwayne Funches F 6-5 227 SR
40 Mbaukwu Nwaogwugwu F 6-4 190 SR
42 *Deon Jackson F 6-6 220 SR
44 James Baptist C 7-1 240 JR
55 *Adebayo Akinkunle F 6-8 200 SO
Coach: Jim Molinari
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
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Parker, A 29-28 167- 356 .469 65-163 .399 133-167 .796 6.4 103 74 31 46 18.3
Funches, D 29-27 129- 243 .531 0- 1 .000 83-125 .664 5.1 26 45 5 18 11.8
Jackson, D 29-21 134- 279 .480 1- 1 1.000 60- 78 .769 4.2 25 48 16 27 11.3
Zobrist, A 25- 1 61- 156 .391 44-111 .396 28- 38 .737 2.2 35 20 2 18 7.8
Kleine, C 28-13 56- 131 .427 26- 68 .382 37- 49 .755 3.3 21 24 2 12 6.3
Akinkunle, B 29-12 52- 118 .441 0- 1 .000 48- 72 .667 3.5 15 37 11 9 5.2
Wright, B 29-29 49- 124 .395 10- 37 .270 34- 60 .567 3.2 161 47 3 43 4.9
Burrell, K 29- 0 37- 92 .402 2- 6 .333 26- 45 .578 2.2 35 25 1 25 3.5
Coupet, B 28- 6 25- 63 .397 0- 0 .000 24- 39 .615 2.3 4 23 20 9 2.6
Nwaogwigwu, B 15- 0 5- 13 .385 0- 0 .000 6- 8 .750 0.6 2 4 2 1 1.1
Samuels, M 12- 0 0- 3 .000 0- 0 .000 12- 13 .923 0.4 7 8 0 2 1.0
Schairer, G 8- 0 1- 10 .100 0- 4 .000 4- 6 .667 1.0 1 5 0 0 0.8
Baptist, J 12- 6 1- 9 .111 0 0 .000 1 8 .125 0.8 0 2 1 2 0.3
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Bradley 29 717-1597 .449 148-392 .378 496-708 .701 35.7 435 362 94 213 71.7
Opponents 29 683-1645 .410 155-454 .341 360-536 .672 36.0 381 425 63 169 65.0
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Lost at Kansas State, 75-72
Nov. 29 Lost at Villanova, 70-63
Dec. 2 Defeated New Orleans, 87-72
Dec. 5 Defeated St. Louis, 78-68
Dec. 16 Defeated Western Illinois, 71-54
Dec. 23 Defeated Chicago State, 110-80
Dec. 29 Defeated Georgia Tech, 84-82
Dec. 30 Lost to Penn State, 75-72
Jan. 3 Won at Creighton, 75-62
Jan. 6 Won at Northern Iowa, 60-51
Jan. 10 Defeated Creighton, 68-54
Jan. 13 Lost to Southwest Missouri State, 61-58
Jan. 15 Defeated Southern Illinois, 73-57
Jan. 20 Lost at Illinois State, 77-72
Jan. 23 Won at Evansville, 71-60
Jan. 25 Won at Indiana State, 68-58
Jan. 29 Defeated Wichita State, 68-49
Jan. 31 Defeated Drake, 77-60
Feb. 4 Defeated Tulsa, 85-72
Feb. 7 Won at Southwest Missouri State, 68-57
Feb. 10 Defeated Northern Iowa, 73-71
Feb. 15 Lost at Wichita State, 76-60
Feb. 17 Won at Tulsa, 74-73
Feb. 21 Defeated Evansville, 73-58
Feb. 24 Defeated Illinois State, 65-64
Feb. 26 Won at Southern Illinois, 79-76
March 2 Defeated Drake, 64-51
March 3 Defeated Southwest Missouri State, 64-62
March 4 Lost to Tulsa, 60-46
Stanford Cardinal 19-8
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Kris Weems G 6-3 175 FR
4 *Dion Cross G 6-2 175 SR
5 Pete Sauer F 6-8 230 FR
10 Mark Thompson G 6-1 170 SO
11 Arthur Lee G 6-0 170 FR
22 *Brevin Knight G 5-10 170 JR
25 *David Harbour G 6-3 190 SR
30 *Darren Allaway F 6-8 235 SR
32 *Andy Poppink F 6-7 230 SR
34 Karl Wente F 6-7 230 FR
35 Kamba Tshionyi G 6-2 185 SO
44 Mark Seaton F 6-9 220 FR
Coach: Mike Montgomery
Player G-GS FG- FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Knight, B 25-25 117- 270 .433 16- 50 .320 118-139 .849 3.7 186 93 4 53 14.7
Poppink, A 25-25 130- 255 .510 4- 17 .235 98-121 .810 8.2 44 47 7 23 14.5
Cross, D 25-25 111- 287 .387 62-161 .385 72- 77 .935 2.0 45 45 5 19 14.2
Young, T 5- 5 16- 38 .421 0- 0 .000 18- 25 .720 9.0 8 12 2 4 10.0
Harbour, D 25-20 74- 180 .411 18- 69 .261 65-111 .586 3.1 41 39 0 15 9.2
Seaton, M 25- 0 49- 81 .605 0- 0 .000 32- 50 .440 3.4 7 20 8 3 5.2
Allaway, D 25-25 41- 82 .500 0- 0 .000 30- 45 .667 4.9 13 30 13 11 4.5
Sauer, P 22- 0 36- 72 .500 6- 14 .429 15- 24 .625 3.3 5 10 2 4 4.2
Weens, K 22- 0 26- 62 .419 13- 35 .371 7- 9 .778 0.6 12 12 1 8 3.3
Lee, A 24- 0 21- 45 .467 6- 14 .429 9- 12 .750 1.0 21 19 1 6 2.6
Jackson, R 20- 0 14- 43 .326 3- 17 .177 10- 16 .625 2.5 22 14 3 6 2.1
Thompson, M 6- 0 3- 5 .600 3- 5 .600 0- 0 .000 0.2 1 0 0 1 1.5
Wente, K 5- 0 2- 6 .500 0- 0 .000 0- 2 .000 0.6 5 0 2 1 0.8
Tshionyi, K 12- 0 1- 7 .143 0- 3 .000 2- 4 .500 0.0 2 2 0 0 0.3
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Stanford 25 641-1431 .448 131-385 .340 476-635 .750 37.5 412 343 48 154 75.6
Opponents 25 608-1431 .425 120-356 .337 329-486 .677 33.0 282 379 81 151 66.6
Schedule/results
Nov. 24 Defeated Stetson, 92-60
Nov. 25 Defeated Rice, 75-64
Nov. 28 Lost to San Francisco, 59-58
Dec. 1 Defeated South Carolina, 82-70
Dec. 2 Lost to North Carolina, 87-63
Dec. 22 Won at Navy, 80-62
Dec. 28 Defeated American, 80-52
Dec. 30 Defeated Harvard, 65-59
Jan. 4 Defeated Arizona State, 83-70
Jan. 6 Defeated Arizona, 80-71
Jan. 11 Lost at UCLA, 64-56
Jan. 14 Lost at Southern Cal, 84-80
Jan. 18 Defeated Oregon, 94-74
Jan. 20 Defeated Oregon State, 84-51
Jan. 25 Lost at Washington, 74-71
Jan. 27 Won at Washington State, 78-67
Jan. 31 Defeated California, 93-79
Feb. 4 Defeated Seton Hall, 83-60
Feb. 8 Defeated Southern Cal, 99-69
Feb. 10 Defeated UCLA, 67-66
Feb. 15 Won at Oregon State, 65-50
Feb. 17 Lost at Oregon, 64-62
Feb. 22 Lost to Washington State, 68-59
Feb. 24 Defeated Washington, 71-56
March 3 Lost at California, 85-69
March 7 Won at Arizona, 85-79
March 9 Won at Arizona State, 67-53
|
| 14.1670 | UK 28-2 vs SJSU 13-16 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 16:23 | 127 |
| Kentucky Wildcats 28-2
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 *Tony Delk G 6-1 193 SR
3 Allen Edwards F 6-4 190 SO
5 Wayne Turner G 6-2 183 FR
13 Nazr Mohammed C 6-10 250 FR
15 Jeff Sheppard G 6-4 189 JR
21 Cameron Mills G 6-3 177 FR
23 *Derek Anderson G/F 6-4 195 JR
24 *Antoine Walker F 6-8 224 SO
25 *Anthony Epps G 6-2 180 JR
33 Ron Mercer G/F 6-7 208 FR
40 *Walter McCarty F/C 6-10 230 SR
41 Mark Pope C 6-10 235 SR
43 Jason Lathrem F 6-5 210 FR
51 Oliver Simmons F 6-8 208 FR
Coach- Rick Pitino
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Delk, T 26-26 165- 317 .521 67-144 .465 69- 84 .821 4.4 45 45 9 51 17.9
Walker, A 26-25 165- 360 .458 8- 43 .186 56- 92 .609 8.3 65 72 20 39 15.2
McCarty, W 26-22 108- 195 .554 19- 42 .452 45- 66 .682 5.5 67 59 40 33 10.8
Anderson, D 26-14 80- 160 .500 17- 46 .370 58- 76 .763 2.9 64 35 5 43 9.0
Pope, M 27- 5 76- 147 .517 15- 36 .417 54- 84 .643 5.4 28 36 30 28 8.2
Mercer, R 26-13 69- 166 .416 15- 50 .300 44- 57 .772 3.1 36 28 5 25 7.6
Epps, A 26-14 49- 111 .441 30- 73 .411 44- 56 .786 3.2 122 43 2 40 6.6
Sheppard, J 24- 1 47- 90 .522 18- 37 .486 24- 40 .600 2.2 41 19 3 12 5.7
Turner, W 26- 8 54- 100 .540 1- 4 .250 21- 35 .600 1.7 47 34 3 30 5.0
Edwards, A 25- 1 28- 63 .444 5- 17 .294 26- 36 .722 1.2 34 23 2 11 3.5
Prickett, J 5- 0 6- 12 .500 0- 1 .000 5- 7 .714 1.6 3 7 2 1 3.4
Mohammed, N 11- 0 10- 22 .455 0- 0 .000 9- 22 .409 1.7 3 15 5 4 2.6
Simmons, O 14- 0 8- 19 .421 0- 0 .000 7- 12 .583 1.4 1 7 3 1 1.6
Mills, C 4- 0 2- 5 .400 0- 1 .000 2- 2 1.000 0.5 1 1 0 0 1.5
Lathrem, J 4- 0 0- 3 .000 0- 1 .000 2- 2 1.000 0.3 1 1 0 0 0.5
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Kentucky 26 867-1770 .490 195-495 .394 466-671 .694 42.7 558 425 129 318 92.1
Opponents 26 633-1563 .405 128-422 .303 399-610 .654 36.1 331 582 92 192 69.0
Schedule/results
Nov. 24 Defeated Maryland, 96-84
Nov. 28 Lost to Massachusetts, 92-82
Dec. 2 Defeated Indiana, 89-82
Dec. 6 Defeated Wisconsin-Green Bay, 74-62
Dec. 9 Defeated Georgia Tech, 83-60
Dec. 16 Defeated Morehead State, 96-32
Dec. 19 Defeated Marshall, 118-99
Dec. 23 Defeated Louisville, 89-66
Dec. 27 Defeated Rider, 90-65
Dec. 29 Defeated Iona, 106-79
Jan. 3 Won at South Carolina, 89-60
Jan. 6 Defeated Mississippi, 90-60
Jan. 9 Won at Mississippi State, 74-56
Jan. 13 Defeated Tennessee, 61-44
Jan. 16 Won at Louisiana State, 129-97
Jan. 20 Defeated Texas Christian, 124-80
Jan. 24 Won at Georgia, 82-77
Jan. 27 Defeated South Carolina, 89-57
Feb. 3 Defeated Florida, 77-63
Feb. 7 Won at Vanderbilt, 120-81
Feb. 11 Defeated Arkansas, 88-73
Feb. 14 Defeated Georgia, 86-73
Feb. 17 Won at Tennessee, 90-50
Feb. 20 Defeated Alabama, 84-65
Feb. 24 Won at Florida, 94-63
Feb. 27 Won at Auburn, 88-73
March 2 Defeated Vanderbilt, 101-63
March 8 Defeated Florida, 100-76
March 9 Defeated Arkansas, 95-75
March 10 Lost to Mississippi State,84-73
San Jose State Spartans 13-16
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
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3 *Olivier Saint-Jean G/F 6-6 225 SO
5 *Sam Allen F 6-7 205 SR
11 LaRon Campbell-Hall G 6-1 175 SO
12 *Tito Addison G 6-0 167 JR
15 Terence Wilborn F 6-7 220 JR
21 *Marmet Williams G 6-4 188 SO
24 Kweli Baker F 6-7 181 SO
31 Brad Quinet G 6-2 185 SR
32 *Roy Hammonds F 6-7 240 SR
35 Rich Taylor F/C 6-9 193 SO
41 Darren Greene F 6-6 190 SR
44 Jahi Bacon G 6-4 213 JR
50 Ken Kavangh F 6-7 195 FR
52 Craig Clark C 6-11 250 FR
Schedule/results
Nov. 28 Lost to St. Mary's (Calif.), 61-60
Dec. 1 Lost to Santa Clara, 79-51
Dec. 5 Lost at Fresno State, 92-68
Dec. 8 Lost to Ball State, 80-64
Dec. 9 Lost to Southeast Missouri State, 55-48
Dec. 20 Defeated Portland, 87-79
Dec. 23 Lost to Pepperdine, 80-76
Dec. 27 Lost to Washington State, 90-74
Jan. 2 Won at Cal State-Fullerton, 88-77
Jan. 4 Lost at UC-Irvine, 78-70
Jan. 8 Defeated New Mexico State, 74-60
Jan. 10 Defeated Nevada-Las Vegas, 66-64
Jan. 13 Lost at Nevada, 83-64
Jan. 15 Lost at Utah State, 60-58
Jan. 20 Lost at Pacific, 81-60
Jan. 25 Lost to Long Beach State, 76-63
Jan. 27 Lost to UC-Santa Barbara, 80-77
Feb. 1 Lost at Nevada-Las Vegas, 84-75
Feb. 3 Lost at New Mexico State, 74-73
Feb. 8 Defeated Utah State, 68-65
Feb. 10 Defeated Nevada, 96-91
Feb. 17 Defeated Pacific, 79-73
Feb. 22 Won at UC-Santa Barbara, 69-66
Feb. 24 Lost at Long Beach State, 105-86
Feb. 29 Defeated UC-Irvine, 81-70
March 3 Defeated Cal State-Fullerton, 90-80
March 8 Defeated Pacific, 77-57
March 9 Defeated UC-Irvine, 71-67
March 10 Defeated Utah State, 76-75 (OT)
|
| 14.1671 | WFU 23-5 vs NLU 16-13 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 16:31 | 137 |
| Wake Forest Demon Deacons 23-5
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
5 Steven Goolsby G 6-4 188 SO Note: With the injury to
10 *Rusty LaRue G 6-2 194 SR Rutland, Jerry Braswell will
11 Joseph Amonett G/F 6-5 189 FR probably start vs NLU.
15 Armond Wilson G 6-2 165 FR
20 Marc Scott G 6-2 186 JR
21 *Tim Duncan C 6-10 240 JR
25 Jerry Braswell G 6-1 177 SO
30 *Tony Rutland G 6-2 183 SO
40 *Sean Allen F 6-8 228 JR
44 *Ricky Peral F 6-10 230 JR
52 William Stringfellow F 6-8 208 FR
Coach: Dave Odom
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Pts
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Duncan, T 25-25 182-328 .555 6- 20 .300 110-158 .696 11.5 72 80 94 17 19.2
Rutland, T 25-23 96-266 .361 65-161 .404 61- 83 .735 2.9 109 74 6 34 12.7
LaRue, R 25-20 83-169 .491 51-110 .464 36- 41 .878 2.8 43 32 2 22 10.1
Peral, R 25-24 79-161 .491 41- 80 .513 25- 34 .735 4.2 28 42 6 14 9.0
Braswell, J 20- 7 48-101 .475 20- 48 .417 25- 35 .714 2.0 25 32 0 13 7.1
Allen, S 25-21 45- 93 .484 0- 1 .000 41- 58 .707 4.4 26 34 16 7 5.2
Goolsby, S 25- 0 36- 76 .474 22- 49 .449 6- 10 .600 1.6 15 20 2 6 4.0
Jackson, A 21- 1 17- 35 .486 0- 0 .000 11- 18 .611 1.9 4 10 5 5 2.1
Stringfellow, W 16- 3 9- 19 .474 0- 1 .000 8- 15 .533 2.3 3 5 6 2 1.6
Amonett, J 16- 1 3- 19 .158 1- 10 .100 7- 12 .583 0.4 1 10 0 2 0.9
Wilson, A 14- 0 2- 14 .143 1- 9 .111 2- 4 .500 0.4 3 3 0 0 0.5
Scott, M 10- 0 1- 6 .167 0- 3 .000 0- 0 .000 0.1 1 0 0 0 0.2
Herbst, K 7- 0 0- 3 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 3 .000 0.6 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Totals 25 601-1290 .466 207-492 .421 332-471 .705 35.7 330 343 137 122 69.6
Opponents 25 558-1435 .389 158-460 .343 241-338 .713 31.8 248 293 54 176 60.6
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Mount St. Mary's, 75-62
Nov. 29 Defeated Oklahoma State, 69-53
Dec. 2 Defeated Lehigh, 68-53
Dec. 6 Lost at Massachusetts, 60-46
Dec. 9 Won at Florida, 77-53
Dec. 18 Defeated Appalachian State, 91-50
Dec. 21 Defeated Utah, 60-56
Jan. 2 Defeated Furman, 81-49
Jan. 6 Won at Florida State, 75-73
Jan. 10 Won at Duke, 57-54
Jan. 13 Defeated Maryland, 77-64
Jan. 15 Defeated Richmond, 71-60
Jan. 17 Defeated Georgia Tech, 66-63
Jan. 21 Lost at Clemson, 55-41
Jan. 24 Defeated Virginia, 81-64
Jan. 27 Lost at North Carolina, 65-59
Jan. 31 Defeated North Carolina State, 66-62
Feb. 7 Defeated Florida State, 81-67
Feb. 11 Defeated Duke, 79-65
Feb. 15 Won at Maryland, 85-78
Feb. 17 Lost at Georgia Tech, 64-63
Feb. 21 Defeated Clemson, 68-48
Feb. 24 Lost at Virginia, 67-49
Feb. 27 Defeated North Carolina, 84-60
March 2 Won at North Carolina State, 72-70
March 8 Defeated Virginia, 70-60
March 9 Defeated Clemson, 68-60
March 10 Defeated Georgia Tech,75-74
Northeast Louisiana Indians 16-13
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 *Jo Jo Jones G 6-0 170 SR
4 *Alvin Edwards C 6-7 280 SR
11 Eugene Mack G 5-11 156 FR
12 Vince Taylor G 6-2 172 SR
20 *Nick Dillon F 6-7 214 JR
22 *Paul Marshall G 6-2 171 SR
23 Joe Childress G 5-10 158 FR
30 Detrius Louis G 6-2 197 FR
32 Damon Marceau G 5-11 132 FR
34 Terrance Fenison G 6-3 170 SO
40 Anthony Cook F 6-3 186 JR
44 Charles Randolph F 6-2 178 SR
50 *Dennis Newton C 6-9 237 SO
Coach: Mike Vining
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Marshall, P 28-28 203-463 .438 110- 263 .418 96- 123 .780 3.5 75 72 4 64 21.9
Edwards, A 27-27 142-265 .536 1- 6 .167 58- 93 .624 6.8 22 43 8 18 12.7
Dillon, N 28-27 111-230 .483 22- 59 .373 64- 104 .615 5.3 40 59 15 24 11.0
Cook, A 24-2 93-220 .423 35- 94 .372 31- 39 .795 3.6 40 60 10 29 10.5
Jones, J 28-27 72-172 .419 25- 68 .368 29- 38 .763 2.4 109 78 18 55 7.2
Newton, D 28-28 86-156 .545 0- 0 .000 12- 26 .462 5.1 24 33 73 21 6.5
Stokes, J 23-0 42-99 .424 1- 3 .333 35- 46 .761 4.1 12 20 7 16 5.2
Taylor, V 21-0 17-44 .386 9- 27 .333 15- 21 .714 1.0 30 16 7 9 2.8
Childress, J 24-1 12-38 .316 7- 19 .368 14- 21 .667 0.5 24 21 0 4 1.9
Mack, E 15-0 13-31 .419 0- 5 .000 7- 9 .778 0.5 9 17 1 3 2.2
Marceaux, D 8-0 6-9 .667 5- 6 .833 1- 2 .500 0.4 1 1 0 1 2.3
Rudolph, C 14-0 6-24 .250 2- 9 .222 1- 5 .200 1.5 15 9 0 2 1.1
Louis, D 3-0 5-8 .625 0- 0 .000 3- 4 .750 1.0 1 2 0 2 4.3
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NLU 30 807-1763 .458 217-560 .388 366-531 .689 34.4 403 435 136 248 78.5
Opponents 30 772-1649 .468 147-381 .386 443-660 .671 38.1 359 505 94 505 76.2
Schedule/results
Nov. 30 Lost at Southeastern Louisiana, 89-65
Dec. 9 Lost at Tulane, 82-62
Dec. 14 Lost at Texas Tech, 95-56
Dec. 16 Lost at Oklahoma, 87-47
Dec. 21 Lost to Samford, 69-53
Dec. 22 Lost to Princeton, 86-51
Dec. 28 Lost at Mississippi, 66-54
Jan. 4 Lost to Northeast Louisiana, 75-72
Jan. 6 Defeated Northwestern State, 75-67
Jan. 11 Lost at Southwest Texas State, 61-53
Jan. 13 Lost at Texas-San Antonio, 83-66
Jan. 18 Defeated North Texas, 67-62
Jan. 20 Defeated Texas-Arlington, 80-64
Jan. 23 Lost at Louisiana State, 86-69
Jan. 25 Won at Stephen F. Austin, 71-54
Jan. 27 Lost at Sam Houston State, 78-71
Feb. 1 Won at Northwestern State, 63-59
Feb. 3 Lost at Northeast Louisiana, 125-85
Feb. 8 Lost to Texas-San Antonio, 64-60
Feb. 10 Lost to Southwest Texas State, 67-61
Feb. 12 Lost to McNeese State, 90-71
Feb. 15 Lost at Texas-Arlington, 83-82
Feb. 17 Lost at North Texas, 81-67
Feb. 22 Lost to Sam Houston State, 94-85
Feb. 24 Lost to Stephen F. Austin, 76-58
Feb. 29 Lost at McNeese State, 92-80
|
| 14.1672 | Villanova 25-6 vs Portland 19-10 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 16:39 | 147 |
| Villanova Wildcats 25-6
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
10 Matthew Couture G 6-0 180 SR
12 Kevin Cox G 6-3 185 SR
13 John Celestand G 6-3 175 FR
15 Brian Noone G 6-1 170 SO
20 *Alvin Williams G 6-4 180 JR
22 Howard Brown G 6-5 195 FR
25 Nick Fragakis G 6-2 195 SR
30 *Kerry Kittles G 6-5 179 SR
31 Rafal Bigus C 7-1 270 FR
33 Zeffy Penn F 6-6 180 JR
34 *Eric Eberz F 6-7 210 SR
40 *Chuck Kornegay F 6-9 230 JR
42 *Jason Lawson C 6-11 235 JR
50 Jamie Gregg F 6-8 235 SR
Coach: Steve Lappas
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Pts
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KITTLES, K 26-25 184- 413 .446 66-172 .384 93-133 .699 7.2 89 44 9 62 20.3
EBERZ, E 28-27 129- 297 .434 59-165 .358 61- 74 .824 3.7 40 41 5 21 13.5
LAWSON, J 28-28 108- 183 .590 0- 1 .000 112-164 .683 6.5 34 80 85 19 11.7
WILLIAMS, A 29-29 113- 243 .465 33- 90 .367 66- 92 .717 3.5 57 71 17 44 11.2
KORNEGAY, C 28-27 68- 143 .476 0- 0 .000 42- 67 .627 4.4 44 52 16 14 6.4
PENN, Z 29- 1 54- 106 .509 2- 8 .250 29- 39 .744 3.2 27 15 6 16 4.8
BROWN, H 28- 5 34- 98 .347 14- 51 .275 19- 31 .613 2.0 29 31 7 15 3.6
CELESTAND, J 26- 0 34- 87 .391 9- 35 .257 16- 24 .667 1.3 42 20 3 14 3.6
BIGUS, R 26- 1 32- 59 .542 0- 0 .000 12- 26 .462 2.2 10 26 14 6 2.9
GREGG, J 13- 1 7- 11 .636 0- 0 .000 3- 7 .429 1.4 3 4 2 5 1.3
COX, K 12- 0 3- 9 .333 1- 5 .200 4- 7 .571 0.5 4 4 0 1 0.9
NOONE, B 7- 0 2- 4 .500 2- 4 .500 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 1 0 0 0.9
COUTURE, M 5- 0 1- 3 .333 1- 3 .333 0- 0 .000 0.2 0 0 0 0 0.6
FRAGAKIS, N 5- 0 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.2 1 2 0 0 0.0
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Villanova 29 769-1657 .464 187-534 .350 457-664 .688 37.7 480 394 164 217 75.2
Opponents 29 693-1710 .405 163-513 .318 372-563 .661 35.9 379 442 77 198 66.2
Schedule/results
Nov. 20 Defeated Wisconsin, 66-58
Nov. 21 Defeated Santa Clara, 77-65
Nov. 22 Defeated North Carolina, 77-75
Nov. 29 Defeated Bradley, 70-63
Dec. 2 Defeated St. John's, 83-68
Dec. 5 Won at Miami (Fla.), 70-68
Dec. 9 Defeated Purdue, 67-50
Dec. 13 Lost to Temple, 62-56
Dec. 22 Won at New Orleans, 80-72
Dec. 28 Defeated Hofstra, 91-57
Dec. 30 Defeated Delaware, 71-58
Jan. 2 Defeated Notre Dame, 76-57
Jan. 6 Defeated Boston College, 94-77
Jan. 9 Lost at Connecticut, 81-73
Jan. 13 Won at West Virginia, 69-67
Jan. 17 Lost at Seton Hall, 78-73
Jan. 20 Defeated North Carolina, 76-56
Jan. 24 Defeated Providence, 69-65
Jan. 27 Defeated Miami (Fla.), 90-62
Jan. 29 Won at Syracuse, 72-69
Feb. 3 Defeated Pittsburgh, 88-55
Feb. 5 Defeated Georgetown, 79-66
Feb. 10 Won at Rutgers, 76-64
Feb. 12 Defeated La Salle, 90-50
Feb. 14 Defeated Seton Hall, 79-67
Feb. 17 Won at Pittsburgh, 67-64
Feb. 25 Lost to Connecticut, 70-59
Feb. 27 Won at Boston College, 76-71
March 2 Lost at Georgetown, 106-68
March 7 Defeated Providence, 78-68
March 8 Lost to Georgetown, 84-76
Portland Pilots 19-10
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 *Chivo Anderson G 6-4 170 SO
4 Sharif Metoyer G 6-0 180 SR
21 *Lemont Daniels F 6-4 225 SR
23 *Dionn Holton G 5-10 195 SO
24 Kasey Flicker G 6-3 170 JR
25 Jason Franklin G 6-4 180 FR
31 Jimmie Rainwater G/F 6-6 185 FR
32 *Kweemada King G 6-4 205 JR
33 Luke Palumbis C 6-9 220 SO
40 Kyle Stonehouse F 6-8 235 FR
42 Rick Brainard G/F 6-6 215 JR
44 Troy Collins F 6-6 200 FR
50 *Greg Closterman C
54 Jay Strid C 7-1 225 FR
Coach: Rob Chavez
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Tot-Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
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32 King, K 28-18 134-304 .441 17-76 .224 94-124 .758 88-3.1 27 48 5 21 13.5
21 Daniels, L 29-29 139-277 .502 6-17 .353 68-92 .739 171-5.9 111 64 5 72 12.1
42 Brainard, R 27-10 116-255 .455 31-79 .392 32-47 .681 95-3.5 33 24 5 9 10.9
50 Klosterman, G 28-28 105-213 .493 3-12 .250 57-79 .722 154-5.5 34 51 21 25 9.6
03 Anderson, C 29-28 96-231 .416 40-104 .385 31-49 .633 110-3.8 41 31 5 28 9.1
23 Holton, D 29-28 83-172 .483 3-7 .429 29-54 .537 85-2.9 103 68 22 31 6.8
31 Rainwater, J 29-0 54-139 .388 19-61 .311 27-37 .730 56-1.9 17 25 4 7 5.3
40 Stonehouse, K 28-1 44-89 .494 2-7 .286 17-24 .708 46-1.6 5 26 6 10 3.8
24 Plicker, K 29-2 24-87 .276 16-65 .246 30-37 .811 50-1.7 48 27 1 27 3.3
04 Metoyer, S 29-1 14-47 .298 1-11 .011 36-53 .692 17-0.6 54 23 1 15 2.2
44 Collins, T 16-0 12-26 .462 1-2 .500 5-9 .586 25-1.6 2 9 0 2 1.9
33 Paulumbis, L 17-0 7-12 .583 0-0 .000 8-10 .800 13-0.8 3 5 5 1 1.3
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Portland 29 828-1852 .447 139-441 .315 436-614 .707 1025-35.3 478 404 60 249 76.9
Opponents 29 717-1589 .451 149-444 .336 490-739 .663 1123-38.7 403 587 86 168 71.5
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Alabama-Birmingham, 69-60
Nov. 30 Defeated Oregon State, 61-50
Dec. 2 Defeated Pacific Lutheran, 84-64
Dec. 7 Won at Eastern Washington, 87-72
Dec. 9 Defeated Southern Oregon State, 113-65
Dec. 16 Defeated Cal Poly-SLO, 91-70
Dec. 20 Lost at San Jose State, 87-79
Dec. 22 Lost at Washington, 71-59
Dec. 29 Defeated Texas Southern, 92-64
Dec. 30 Won at Boise State, 70-49
Jan. 3 Defeated Southern Utah, 88-83
Jan. 6 Lost at Butler, 87-80
Jan. 12 Won at St. Mary's (Calif.), 97-86
Jan. 13 Lost at Santa Clara, 86-66
Jan. 18 Lost to San Francisco, 63-57
Jan. 20 Defeated San Diego, 78-64
Jan. 24 Lost at Gonzaga, 95-72
Jan. 27 Defeated Gonzaga, 67-66
Feb. 2 Won at Pepperdine, 78-72
Feb. 3 Lost at Loyola Marymount, 70-62
Feb. 8 Defeated Loyola Marymount, 97-77
Feb. 10 Defeated Pepperdine, 89-76
Feb. 15 Lost at San Diego, 76-68
Feb. 17 Lost at San Francisco, 66-43
Feb. 22 Defeated Santa Clara, 80-71
Feb. 24 Lost to St. Mary's (Calif.), 91-83
March 2 Defeated San Francisco, 78-72
March 3 Defeated Pepperdine, 76-48
March 4 Defeated Gonzaga, 76-68
|
| 14.1673 | Utah 25-6 vs Canisius 19-10 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 16:47 | 154 |
| Utah Utes 25-6
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Doug Meacham G 5-10 155 SR
4 Paul Jonas G 6-2 172 FR
10 Mark Rydalch G 6-1 175 SR
13 Andy Jensen F 6-7 219 SO
14 Kelly Leonard G 6-5 185 JR
15 *Ben Caton G 6-3 194 JR
20 Doug Chapman F 6-6 243 SR
21 Terry Preston G 5-11 170 JR
24 *Andre Miller G 6-2 200 SO
30 Ben Melmeth F/C 6-11 242 SO
34 Drew Hansen F/G 6-5 189 SO
41 *Brandon Jessie G 6-4 239 SR
44 *Keith Van Horn F 6-9 235 JR
51 *Michael Doleac F/C 6-11 265 SR
55 Will Carlton F 6-9 215 FR
Coach: Rick Majerus
Player G-GS FG- FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Van Horn, K 27-27 200- 369 .542 43-105 .410 145-171 .848 9.2 28 63 21 17 21.8
Jessie, B 21-21 105- 225 .467 16- 34 .471 87-111 .784 5.1 38 38 8 26 14.9
Caton, B 28-27 75- 160 .469 32- 82 .390 66- 77 .857 1.9 67 45 8 23 8.9
Miller, A 28-17 82- 151 .543 4- 14 .286 66- 97 .680 3.4 124 68 16 30 8.4
Doleac, M 28-28 75- 170 .441 0- 1 .000 74- 93 .796 7.6 23 37 22 16 8.0
Rydalch, M 28- 1 71- 166 .428 39-100 .390 38- 43 .884 1.4 72 41 1 16 7.8
Melmeth, B 25- 0 39- 90 .433 0- 0 .000 36- 50 .720 5.4 15 21 9 11 4.6
Carlton, W 17- 1 19- 33 .576 0- 1 .000 13- 20 .650 1.8 5 12 2 6 3.0
Hansen, D 28- 7 26- 54 .481 10- 30 .333 18- 24 .750 1.8 19 22 4 17 2.9
Anderson, R 1- 0 1- 1 1.000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 1.0 0 0 0 0 2.0
Preston, T 27-10 17- 45 .378 8- 29 .276 6- 11 .545 .9 39 25 0 16 1.8
Chapman, D 24- 0 11- 20 .550 0- 0 .000 7- 10 .700 1.4 3 4 3 2 1.2
Jonas, P 15- 0 5- 14 .357 3- 8 .375 2- 3 .667 .5 6 6 0 1 1.0
Leonard, K 6- 0 1- 3 .333 0- 0 .000 4- 10 .400 .5 3 4 0 1 1.0
Meacham, D 10- 0 3- 9 .333 0- 3 .000 3- 5 .600 .5 8 4 0 1 .9
Jensen, A 12- 0 1- 3 .333 0- 2 .000 4- 4 1.000 1.4 1 8 0 2 .5
Jensen, C 3- 0 0- 2 .000 0- 0 .000 1- 2 .500 .3 0 0 0 0 .3
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Utah 28 731-1515 .483 155-409 .379 570-731 .780 37.9 451 398 94 185 78.1
Opponents 28 631-1627 .388 159-487 .326 343-516 .665 30.1 337 358 81 196 63.0
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Lost to Kansas, 79-68
Nov. 29 Won at Texas, 70-69
Dec. 1 Defeated Lewis-Clark State, 91-64
Dec. 4 Defeated Drake, 86-50
Dec. 6 Won at Weber State, 89-60
Dec. 9 Defeated Utah State, 59-43
Dec. 15 Defeated St. Thomas, 87-63
Dec. 21 Lost at Wake Forest, 60-56
Dec. 23 Defeated Southern Cal, 84-49
Dec. 27 Defeated Cal State-Fullerton, 108-58
Jan. 2 Defeated Brigham Young, 83-77
Jan. 8 Lost to Fresno State, 65-64
Jan. 10 Defeated Air Force, 69-45
Jan. 13 Won at Hawaii, 82-46
Jan. 15 Won at San Diego State, 67-59
Jan. 18 Defeated Colorado State, 86-82
Jan. 20 Defeated Wyoming, 88-65
Jan. 25 Won at Texas-El Paso, 68-54
Jan. 27 Won at New Mexico, 82-64
Feb. 1 Defeated Texas-El Paso, 77-62
Feb. 3 Defeated New Mexico, 74-58
Feb. 10 Won at Colorado State, 78-73
Feb. 12 Lost at Wyoming, 80-76
Feb. 15 Defeated Hawaii, 69-59
Feb. 17 Defeated San Diego State, 88-74
Feb. 22 Lost at Fresno State, 71-68
Feb. 24 Won at Air Force, 74-50
March 2 Won at Brigham Young, 96-85
March 7 Defeated Texas-El Paso, 76-63
March 8 Defeated Colorado State, 71-69
March 9 Lost to New Mexico, 64-60
Canisius Golden Griffins 19-10
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Kevin Thompson G 6-2 195 SO
4 *Javone Moore G 5-11 175 JR
5 *Mickey Frazier G 6-2 185 SR
11 Kevin Worley G 6-2 160 FR
20 Mark Kolbe F 6-4 190 JR
21 Fred Dupree F 6-6 220 SO
22 Keith Lambkin G 6-4 185 FR
23 Jon Tuminaro G 5-7 155 FR
33 *Darrell Barley F 6-5 195 SR
34 James Cammaert F 6-5 225 FR
40 Ryan Shepherd C 6-9 210 SO
44 *Ryan Collins C 6-9 230 JR
55 *Michael Meeks C 6-9 225 SR
Coach: John Beilein
3-POINT REBOUNDS
PLAYER GP-GS FGM-FGA FG% FGM-FGA FG% FTM-FTA FT% TOT/AVG PTS AST BLK TO STL
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Barley 22-22 157-304 0.516 23-55 0.418 107-156 0.686 178/ 8.1 20.2 55 7 61 40
Meeks 25-24 146-320 0.456 8-35 0.229 124-157 0.790 174/ 7.0 17.0 42 37 66 20
Frazier 25-23 82-200 0.410 58-160 0.363 23-29 0.793 53/ 2.1 9.8 43 4 40 29
Thompson 25-5 56-153 0.366 26-81 0.321 34-44 0.773 37/ 1.5 6.9 36 0 25 15
Collins 25-20 51-118 0.432 1-6 0.167 17-26 0.654 132/ 5.3 4.8 17 15 45 11
Moore 22-22 34-118 0.288 8-38 0.211 40-58 0.690 60/ 2.7 5.3 140 1 56 33
Lambkin 25-6 33-81 0.407 10-35 0.286 5-16 0.313 54/ 2.2 3.2 25 4 28 9
Dupree 21-3 14-36 0.389 0-1 0.000 14-20 0.700 50/ 2.4 2.0 3 0 6 9
Worley 13-0 5-28 0.179 3-10 0.300 2-3 0.667 3/ 0.2 1.2 7 0 12 3
Cammaert 22-0 7-28 0.250 0-6 0.000 1-2 0.500 19/ 0.9 0.7 5 0 7 3
Allen 3-0 2-3 0.667 0-1 0.000 0-0 0.000 0/ 0.0 1.3 1 0 0 0
Shepherd 3-0 1-1 1.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 2/ 0.7 0.7 0 0 1 0
Wooten 0-0 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0/ 0.0 0.0 0 0 0 0
Kolbe 5-0 0-2 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 2/ 0.4 0.0 0 0 0 0
Tuminaro 7-0 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-1 0.000 0/ 0.0 0.0 0 0 3 0
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Totals 29 588-1392 0.422 137-428 0.320 367-512 0.717 852/34.1 67.2 374 68 357 172
Opponents 29 587-1376 0.427 122-355 0.344 270-406 0.665 899/36.0 62.6 350 82 408 168
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Won at Western Michigan, 73-53
Nov. 29 Lost at Akron, 72-68
Dec. 2 Defeated St. Bonaventure, 77-64
Dec. 5 Defeated Buffalo, 82-75
Dec. 8 Lost to Washington State, 73-62
Dec. 9 Defeated Columbia, 64-42
Dec. 18 Won at Colgate, 65-63
Dec. 20 Defeated Toledo, 75-67
Dec. 23 Won at Valparaiso, 72-68
Dec. 30 Defeated Colgate, 62-51
Jan. 6 Won at Fairfield, 63-56
Jan. 8 Lost at Providence, 91-63
Jan. 13 Lost at Niagara, 74-71
Jan. 16 Won at St. Bonaventure, 53-38
Jan. 19 Lost at St. Peter's, 68-64
Jan. 21 Lost at Iona, 75-72
Jan. 28 Defeated Fairfield, 82-72
Feb. 2 Defeated Manhattan, 62-57
Feb. 4 Defeated Iona, 76-54
Feb. 8 Won at Siena, 60-55
Feb. 10 Won at Loyola (Md.), 72-67
Feb. 13 Lost to Niagara, 58-56
Feb. 17 Defeated Siena, 66-49
Feb. 19 Lost to Loyola (Md.), 64-63
Feb. 23 Lost to St. Peter's, 60-57
Feb. 25 Lost at Manhattan, 78-61
March 2 Defeated Loyola (Md.), 74-67
March 3 Defeated Iona, 63-62
March 4 Defeated Fairfield, 52-46
|
| 14.1674 | ISU 22-8 vs Cal 17-10 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 16:56 | 148 |
| Iowa State Cyclones 22-8
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Joe Modderman F 6-9 220 JR
5 Shelby Walton G 5-11 175 JR
10 *Jacy Holloway G 6-0 160 JR
11 Sol Harris G 6-3 195 JR
13 *Kelvin Cato C 6-11 245 JR
22 *Dedric Willoughby G/F 6-3 180 JR
31 *Shawn Bankhead F 6-6 215 JR
32 Ha-Keem Abdel-Khaliq G 6-4 195 JR
34 Jason Justus F 6-8 200 JR
40 Klay Edwards F 6-6 215 FR
42 *Kenny Pratt G/F 6-4 215 JR
50 Tyler Peterson C 7-0 235 FR
55 Tony Rampton C 6-11 210 FR
Coach: Tim Floyd
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Pts
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Willoughby, D 28-28 167-403 .414 74-219 .338 158-198 .798 4.4 66 67 3 35 20.2
Pratt, K 28-23 150-310 .484 2- 9 .222 127-201 .632 6.0 59 96 1 50 15.3
Bankhead, S 28-23 92 -209 .440 0- 0 .--- 47- 67 .701 3.0 35 29 5 17 8.3
Cato, K 22-21 73 -152 .480 0- 0 .--- 64- 95 .674 7.8 17 38 51 20 9.5
Edwards, K 28- 3 49 - 85 .434 0- 0 .--- 27- 46 .587 4.5 14 18 3 13 4.5
Halloway, J 28-27 35 -105 .324 19- 64 .297 34- 45 .758 2.5 127 52 1 25 4.3
Walton, C 16- 5 26 - 74 .351 6- 20 .300 22- 41 .537 1.4 35 43 1 26 5.0
Modderman, J 15- 0 16 - 42 .381 13- 31 .419 9- 12 .818 2.0 13 9 1 7 3.6
Rampton, T 17- 6 23 - 44 .295 0- 0 .--- 11- 22 .500 2.6 6 9 7 4 2.2
Justus, J 13- 0 7 - 18 .389 2- 3 .667 7- 10 .700 0.6 3 7 2 0 1.8
Peterson, T 15- 0 5 - 10 .500 0- 0 .--- 12- 14 .857 0.8 0 1 0 0 1.5
Walton, S 18- 0 1 - 6 .167 0- 0 .--- 5- 6 .833 0.3 2 5 1 0 0.4
Harris, S 4- 0 0 - 4 .000 0- 3 .000 2- 2 1.000 0.3 0 0 0 0 0.0
Abdeil-Khali,H 2- 0 0 - 2 .000 0- 1 .000 0- 0 --- 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Iowa State 28 633-1454 .432 116-350 .331 525-758 .693 33.9 377 385 76 191 68.1
Opponents 28 679-1604 .388 155-449 .345 275-412 .667 35.3 382 480 108 194 63.9
Schedule/Results
Nov. 24 Defeated Central Connecticut State, 70-45
Nov. 28 Defeated Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 63-52
Dec. 1 Defeated Tennessee State, 75-67
Dec. 2 Defeated Richmond, 82-64
Dec. 6 Won at Drake, 65-62
Dec. 9 Lost to Iowa, 56-50
Dec. 16 Won at Wyoming, 70-66
Dec. 18 Defeated Missouri-St. Louis, 76-63
Dec. 21 Defeated Princeton, 50-47
Dec. 22 Defeated Samford, 71-59
Dec. 28 Lost to Purdue, 79-60
Dec. 29 Defeated UNC-Charlotte, 69-61
Jan. 2 Defeated Coppin State, 77-59
Jan. 6 Lost at Kansas State, 72-55
Jan. 10 Lost at Marquette, 58-56
Jan. 13 Defeated Oklahoma State, 79-71
Jan. 21 Defeated Missouri, 73-62
Jan. 24 Won at Colorado, 75-63
Jan. 27 Defeated Oklahoma, 67-61
Feb. 3 Won at Nebraska, 75-65
Feb. 7 Lost at Kansas, 89-70
Feb. 10 Defeated Nebraska, 74-59
Feb. 14 Won at Oklahoma, 70-58
Feb. 17 Lost to Kansas, 61-50
Feb. 21 Lost at Oklahoma State, 58-46
Feb. 24 Won at Missouri, 78-74
Feb. 28 Lost to Kansas State, 92-87
March 2 Defeated Colorado, 74-65
March 8 Defeated Nebraska, 62-60
March 9 Defeated Missouri, 57-53
March 10 Defeated Kansas, 56-55
California Golden Bears 17-10
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Shareef Abdur-Rahim F 6-10 225 FR
4 Alfred Grigsby F 6-9 235 SR
13 Jelani Gardner G 6-6 205 SO
14 Anwar McQueen G 6-1 185 JR
20 Joe Owens G 6-3 190 SO
22 Ed Gray G 6-3 210 JR
23 Randy Duck G 6-2 205 JR
24 Tremaine Fowlkes F 6-7 215 SO
25 Robbie Jones G 6-3 180 FR
32 Prentice McGruder G 6-3 180 JR
34 Tony Gonzalez F 6-6 235 SO
40 Sean Marks C 6-10 250 SO
44 Michael Stewart C 6-10 225 JR
54 Kenyon Jones C 6-10 255 FR
55 Justin Labagh F 6-5 195 FR
Coach: Todd Bozeman
Player G-GS FG- FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
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Abdur-Rahim, S 25-25 197- 371 .513 7- 20 .350 158-229 .690 8.8 28 78 32 52 22.4
Gray, E 25- 9 134- 310 .432 37-110 .336 98-125 .784 2.4 41 50 5 37 16.1
Fowlkes, T 10- 7 37- 96 .385 10 32 .313 29- 44 .659 5.8 5 19 3 5 11.3
Gardner, J 22-17 68- 159 .428 32- 79 .405 55- 75 .733 2.5 95 63 1 23 10.1
Duck, R 25-24 75- 175 .429 37- 99 .374 40- 52 .769 3.0 43 33 3 19 9.1
Gonzalez, T 25- 4 40- 87 .460 0- 0 .000 46- 69 .667 4.4 14 30 7 19 5.0
Grigsby, A 4- 1 7- 13 .538 0- 0 .000 3- 4 .750 3.8 0 4 1 2 4.3
McQueen, A 17- 4 20- 56 .357 11- 29 .379 5- 9 .556 1.8 29 22 2 9 3.3
Stewart, M 25-22 34- 63 .540 0- 0 .000 12- 27 .444 4.7 8 19 41 7 3.2
Jones, K 18- 0 20- 36 .556 0- 0 .000 11- 24 .458 2.6 7 10 9 1 2.8
McGruder, P 24-12 16- 56 .286 1- 9 .111 28- 37 .757 2.1 66 40 2 25 2.5
Caiazzo 1- 0 1- 1 1.000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 0 0 0 2.0
Marks, S 11- 0 6- 21 .286 0- 0 .000 1- 1 1.000 2.2 3 6 5 1 1.2
Owens, J 4- 0 0- 2 .000 0- 2 .000 1- 2 .500 0.0 2 0 0 0 0.3
Labagh, J 2- 0 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 1 0 0 0.0
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California 30 655-1446 .453 135-380 .355 487-698 .698 37.6 339 381 111 200 77.8
Opponents 30 656-1479 .444 126-353 .357 325-494 .658 34.8 380 428 75 167 70.5
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Northern Arizona, 111-83
Nov. 29 Won at Texas Southern, 112-73
Dec. 5 Defeated San Francisco, 83-70
Dec. 16 Won at Minnesota, 70-67
Dec. 20 Lost to Cincinnati, 77-70
Dec. 23 Lost to Illinois, 83-69
Dec. 28 Defeated Holy Cross, 75-64
Dec. 29 Lost to Kansas State, 65-58
Jan. 4 Defeated Arizona, 99-75
Jan. 6 Defeated Arizona State, 97-82
Jan. 11 Won at Southern Cal, 63-60
Jan. 13 Lost at UCLA, 93-73
Jan. 18 Defeated Oregon State, 70-52
Jan. 20 Defeated Oregon, 97-72
Jan. 25 Won at Washington State, 87-79
Jan. 27 Lost at Washington, 71-69
Jan. 31 Lost at Stanford, 93-79
Feb. 4 Defeated DePaul, 62-59
Feb. 8 Lost to UCLA, 73-65
Feb. 10 Defeated Southern Cal, 85-69
Feb. 15 Lost at Oregon, 60-58
Feb. 17 Won at Oregon State, 57-51
Feb. 22 Defeated Washington, 67-56
Feb. 24 Defeated Washington State, 71-67
March 3 Defeated Stanford, 85-69
March 7 Lost at Arizona State, 56-53
March 9 Lost at Arizona, 71-68
|
| 14.1675 | Louisville 20-11 vs Tulsa 22-7 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:03 | 146 |
| Louisville Cardinals 20-11
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Brian Kiser F 6-7 205 SR
4 *Tick Rogers G 6-5 205 SR
5 *Alvin Sims G/F 6-4 220 JR
11 Charlie Taylor G 5-9 145 FR
12 Matt Akridge G 6-2 175 SO
13 B.J. Flynn G 6-2 190 JR
20 Jimmy King G 6-1 180 SR
21 Robby Wine F 6-4 195 SR
23 Eric Johnson G/F 6-3 215 SO
24 Craig Farmer G/F 6-5 195 SO
32 *DeJuan Wheat G 6-0 165 JR
33 *Beau Zach Smith F/C 6-8 230 JR
50 *Damion Dantzler F 6-7 220 SO
52 Samaki Walker C 6-9 240 SO
Coach: Denny Crum
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg Ast TO BS ST Pts
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Wheat 29-29 174-386 .451 64-184 .348 95-133 .714 3.7 114 84 7 45 17.5
Walker 16-13 98-162 .605 0- 1 .000 44- 81 .543 8.4 22 39 39 13 15.0
Sims 29-29 137-258 .531 16- 47 .340 57-102 .559 4.8 73 75 12 73 12.0
Rogers 27-26 102-218 .468 19- 48 .396 66- 90 .733 4.8 56 41 12 57 10.7
Kiser 29-11 92 -197 .467 63-139 .453 24- 31 .774 3.1 52 59 6 15 9.3
Johnson 2- 2 7 - 11 .636 2- 5 .400 1- 2 .500 3.0 0 6 0 3 8.5
Dantzler 29-18 86 -175 .419 14- 56 .250 49- 81 .605 5.2 32 62 11 18 8.1
Flynn 28- 1 28 - 59 .475 5- 13 .385 50- 70 .714 1.2 35 39 0 13 4.0
Smith 29-16 40 - 78 .513 0- 0 .--- 21- 31 .677 3.1 19 44 39 8 3.5
Akridge 13- 0 8 - 16 .500 5- 12 .417 10- 10 1.00 0.6 6 5 0 2 2.4
Taylor 16- 0 11 - 31 .355 1- 11 .091 11- 19 .579 0.9 23 14 0 9 2.1
Farmer 16- 0 9 - 15 .600 2- 3 .667 1- 3 .333 0.6 2 4 0 1 1.3
Wine 10- 0 4 - 9 .444 0- 0 .--- 0- 0 .000 0.8 2 2 1 1 0.8
King 7- 0 1 - 6 .167 0- 2 .000 0- 2 .000 0.3 1 2 0 1 0.3
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Louisville 29 797-1621 .492 191-521 .367 429-655 .655 33.9 437 477 127 259 76.3
Opponents 29 739-1768 .418 173-556 .311 396-581 .682 33.8 377 495 86 250 70.6
Schedule/Results
Nov. 24 Defeated American-Puerto Rico, 90-86
Nov. 25 Defeated Virginia Commonwealth, 83-74
Nov. 26 Lost to Auburn, 82-78
Nov. 30 Lost at Boston College, 81-67
Dec. 2 Defeated Michigan State, 79-59
Dec. 6 Defeated Morehead State, 119-61
Dec. 9 Defeated Texas, 101-78
Dec. 13 Defeated Eastern Kentucky, 87-70
Dec. 16 Lost at Georgia Tech, 88-77
Dec. 20 Defeated Murray State, 81-72
Dec. 23 Lost at Kentucky, 89-66
Dec. 30 Defeated Towson State, 96-72
Jan. 3 Won at St. Louis, 67-63
Jan. 7 Won at DePaul, 81-71
Jan. 10 Lost to UNC-Charlotte, 78-66
Jan. 13 Lost at St. John's, 86-64
Jan. 17 Won at Alabama-Birmingham, 78-70
Jan. 21 Defeated Southern Mississippi, 87-61
Jan. 24 Defeated St. Louis, 61-57
Jan. 27 Won at UCLA, 78-76
Jan. 31 Won at South Florida, 57-54
Feb. 3 Defeated Memphis, 74-56
Feb. 8 Lost to Tulane, 68-65
Feb. 10 Defeated Alabama-Birmingham, 81-66
Feb. 15 Won at UNC-Charlotte, 67-64
Feb. 22 Won at Cincinnati, 72-66
Feb. 25 Lost at Memphis, 57-54
Feb. 28 Lost to Marquette, 80-79
March 2 Lost to Massachusetts, 62-59
March 7 Defeated Tulane, 98-79
March 8 Lost to Cincinnati, 92-81
Tulsa Golden Hurricane 22-7
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Jason Williams G 6-2 180 FR
4 Jeff Platt G 6-1 175 FR
5 *Ray Poindexter F/C 6-11 225 SR
12 Jonnie Gendron G 6-3 180 FR
15 Cordell Love G 6-2 180 SR
21 *Shea Seals G/F 6-5 210 JR
22 *Dewayne Bonner G 6-5 190 SR
24 *Rod Thompson G 6-2 185 SO
41 Craig Hernadi F 6-7 225 SR
42 J.R. Rollo C 6-10 255 SR
50 Rafael Maldanado C 6-11 240 JR
51 *Michael Ruffin F 6-8 225 FR
Coach: Steve Robinson
Player G-GS FG- FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Seals, S 29-28 156- 408 .382 56-189 .296 122-185 .659 5.7 64 66 12 51 16.9
Love, C 29-18 121- 290 .417 67-198 .338 63- 81 .778 3.7 41 50 11 50 12.8
Bonner, D 29-29 80- 190 .421 10- 34 .294 59- 82 .720 3.4 141 75 5 45 7.9
Poindexter, R 29-23 79- 164 .482 1- 1 1.000 57- 89 .640 6.6 35 41 29 25 7.4
Thompson, R 29-10 63- 152 .414 17- 44 .386 54- 64 .844 2.7 79 60 4 32 6.8
Ruffin, M 29-16 70- 137 .511 0- 1 .000 52-117 .444 7.4 21 47 44 24 6.6
Rollo, J.R. 29- 7 49- 91 .538 0- 1 .000 37- 61 .607 3.3 16 36 6 3 4.7
Hernadi, C 29- 3 38- 73 .521 0- 0 .000 54- 71 .761 1.5 11 28 1 11 4.5
Maldonado, R 28-10 40- 85 .471 0- 0 .000 24- 43 .558 2.7 17 25 16 16 3.7
Gendron, J 26- 1 32- 74 .432 14- 30 .467 11- 15 .733 1.6 20 22 4 4 3.4
Williams, J 26- 0 15- 37 .405 4- 6 .667 6- 8 .750 0.6 22 14 1 1 1.5
Gillin, J 7- 0 5- 10 .500 2- 6 .333 0- 0 .000 0.4 2 5 0 0 1.7
Platt, J 14- 0 2 4 .500 2 2 1.000 0 0 .000 0.3 7 3 1 1 0.4
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Tulsa 29 750-1715 .437 173-512 .338 539-816 .661 43.3 476 474 134 284 76.3
Opponents 29 653-1674 .390 157-490 .320 405-625 .640 35.1 356 515 85 217 64.6
Schedule/results
Dec. 2 Defeated North Carolina A&T, 100-51
Dec. 4 Won at Western Kentucky, 73-65
Dec. 9 Won at Temple, 64-60
Dec. 17 Defeated Prairie View A&M, 141-50
Dec. 20 Defeated New Mexico State, 73-57
Dec. 30 Lost at Oral Roberts, 90-78
Jan. 2 Defeated Oklahoma State, 57-53
Jan. 6 Won at Evansville, 67-57
Jan. 8 Defeated Alabama-Birmingham, 70-55
Jan. 11 Defeated Drake, 86-64
Jan. 14 Lost to Illinois State, 74-71
Jan. 17 Lost at Creighton, 72-59
Jan. 20 Won at Southwest Missouri State, 75-65
Jan. 24 Defeated Creighton, 55-52
Jan. 27 Won at Drake, 79-73
Jan. 29 Won at Northern Iowa, 89-79
Jan. 31 Lost to Southwest Missouri State, 66-61
Feb. 4 Lost at Bradley, 85-72
Feb. 10 Won at Wichita State, 75-47
Feb. 12 Defeated Evansville, 74-53
Feb. 14 Won at Southern Illinois, 84-75
Feb. 17 Lost to Bradley, 74-73
Feb. 19 Defeated Indiana State, 111-75
Feb. 21 Lost at Illinois State, 69-64
Feb. 24 Defeated Wichita State, 72-66
Feb. 26 Defeated Northern Iowa, 95-88
March 2 Defeated Evansville, 65-55
March 3 Defeated Illinois State, 69-52
March 4 Defeated Bradley, 60-46
|
| 14.1676 | Michigan 20-11 vs Texas 20-9 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:11 | 147 |
| Michigan Wolverines 20-11
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Ryan DeKuiper G/F 6-3 185 SR
11 *Dugan Fife G 6-3 185 SR
13 Willie Mitchell F/G 6-8 217 SO
20 Neal Morton G/F 6-5 200 SR
21 *Travis Conlan G 6-5 190 SO
22 *Louis Bullock G 6-2 165 FR
23 *Maurice Taylor F/C 6-9 250 SO
24 Ron Oliver G 6-0 165 FR
30 *Maceo Baston F/C 6-9 210 SO
32 Jerod Ward F/G 6-9 215 SO
44 Albert White F/G 6-6 230 FR
50 Erik Szyndlar F 6-6 220 FR
54 Robert Traylor C 6-8 300 FR
Coach: Steve Fisher
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Taylor, M 25-25 153-290 .528 1-2 .500 51-89 .573 6.8 37 58 17 19 14.3
Bullock, L 25-22 102-251 .406 53-138 .384 73-86 .849 2.9 40 42 2 25 13.2
Baston, M 25-21 107-158 .677 0-1 .000 79-116 .681 6.2 14 52 31 11 11.7
Traylor, R 22- 5 82-148 .554 0-0 .000 34-62 .548 5.9 12 53 15 19 9.0
White, A 25-15 81-202 .401 11-46 .239 36-53 .679 4.1 32 77 7 21 8.4
Ward, J 10- 3 26-82 .317 5-30 .167 15-33 .455 4.8 10 19 3 7 7.2
Mitcehll, W 18- 6 42-133 .316 8-32 .250 16-29 .552 3.2 22 32 5 12 6.0
Conlan, T 25-23 37-108 .343 20-65 .308 23-41 .561 2.9 124 65 4 39 4.7
Fife, D 25- 7 25-77 .325 18-50 .360 29-33 .879 2.3 36 22 3 18 3.9
Morton, N 19- 0 4-11 .364 3-6 .500 2-2 1.000 0.6 6 2 1 2 0.7
DeKuiper, R 11- 0 2-4 .500 0-1 .000 2-4 .500 0.4 0 0 0 0 0.5
Oliver, R 17- 0 2-8 .250 0-1 .000 1-5 .200 0.3 1 4 1 2 0.3
Szyndlar, E 8- 0 0-4 .000 0-0 .000 0-2 .000 0.5 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Michigan 25 663-1476 .449 119-372 .320 361-555 .650 39.1 334 427 89 175 72.2
Opponents 25 608-1456 .418 135-450 .300 296-460 .643 34.6 328 442 60 152 65.9
Schedule/results
Nov. 15 Defeated DePaul, 73-65
Nov. 17 Defeated Weber State, 80-62
Nov. 22 Lost to Arizona, 86-79
Nov. 24 Lost to Georgia Tech, 77-61
Nov. 27 Defeated St. Francis (Pa.), 84-52
Nov. 29 Won at Ball State, 80-52
Dec. 2 Won at Detroit, 68-48
Dec. 5 Won at Louisiana State, 69-68
Dec. 9 Defeated Duke, 88-84
Dec. 16 Defeated Washington, 60-59
Dec. 18 Defeated Cleveland State, 84-55
Dec. 28 Lost at Nevada-Las Vegas, 66-64
Dec. 30 Defeated Davidson, 82-70
Jan. 3 Lost at Wisconsin, 51-46
Jan. 6 Defeated Northwestern, 83-51
Jan. 9 Defeated Illinois, 83-68
Jan. 13 Won at Michigan State, 76-54
Jan. 21 Defeated Penn State, 67-66
Jan. 23 Lost at Indiana, 99-83
Jan. 28 Lost at Iowa, 70-61
Jan. 31 Lost to Purdue, 80-59
Feb. 3 Won at Ohio State, 77-58
Feb. 10 Lost at Purdue, 69-64
Feb. 13 Lost to Iowa, 62-55
Feb. 18 Defeated Indiana, 80-75
Feb. 22 Lost at Penn State, 67-57
Feb. 24 Defeated Minnesota, 65-62
Feb. 27 Defeated Michigan State, 75-46
March 3 Lost at Illinois, 73-62
March 6 Won at Northwestern, 77-50
March 9 Defeated Wisconsin, 65-51
Texas Longhorns 20-9
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 *Sonny Alvarado F/C 6-7 225 SR
4 Sheldon Quarles C/F 6-10 210 JR
5 Al Coleman G 6-1 170 JR
11 Jeremy Lamin G 6-2 180 SO
13 Brandy Perryman G 6-2 185 SO
14 *Lamont Hill G 6-1 180 SR
15 *Kris Clack G 6-5 195 FR
25 Titus Warmsley G 5-10 160 FR
31 *Dejuan Vazquez G 6-4 195 FR
32 *Reggie Freeman G 6-6 200 JR
33 Carlton Dixon F/G 6-5 190 SO
34 Russell Freeman C 6-9 260 SO
40 Nathion Gilmore C 6-9 225 SR
50 Dennis Jordan C 6-9 255 JR
Coach: Tom Penders
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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Freeman, R 28-28 213- 563 .378 78-240 .325 124-169 .734 6.8 110 88 10 63 22.4
Alvarado, S 28-27 143- 286 .500 1- 1 1.000 83-113 .735 8.7 25 52 9 50 13.2
Hill, L 26-20 83- 221 .376 38-112 .339 56- 71 .789 3.3 45 30 8 60 10.0
Perryman, B 28-10 74- 212 .349 58-179 .324 50- 56 .893 1.8 76 38 1 34 9.1
Clack, K 28-17 91- 178 .511 11- 27 .407 55-107 .514 6.5 49 43 24 39 8.9
Vazquez, D 28-22 65- 165 .394 21- 63 .333 25- 60 .417 2.4 42 56 7 32 6.3
Dixon, C 28- 6 64- 129 .496 0- 4 .000 45- 68 .662 3.1 13 23 2 18 6.2
Warmsley, T 24- 0 21- 79 .266 10- 46 .217 17- 27 .630 0.6 16 24 0 5 2.9
Quarles, S 27- 6 25- 67 .373 0- 2 .000 14- 23 .609 2.2 3 21 12 6 2.4
Jordan, D 27- 4 23- 46 .500 0- 1 .000 9- 23 .391 2.5 7 27 5 8 2.0
Freeman, R 17- 0 4- 9 .444 0- 0 .000 2- 3 .667 1.0 2 6 0 2 0.6
Coleman, A 12- 0 1- 7 .143 1- 6 .167 4- 7 .571 0.3 1 2 0 0 0.6
Gilmore, N 8- 1 2- 3 .667 0- 0 .000 0- 2 .000 1.4 1 3 0 0 0.5
Lamin, J 1- 0 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Texas 28 809-1965 .412 218-681 .320 484-729 .664 42.3 390 413 78 317 82.9
Opponents 28 693-1536 .451 146-455 .321 558-861 .648 40.7 393 612 93 180 74.6
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated North Texas, 88-67
Nov. 29 Lost to Utah, 70-69
Dec. 2 Won at DePaul, 88-84
Dec. 5 Defeated Texas-San Antonio, 110-98
Dec. 9 Lost at Louisville, 101-78
Dec. 16 Defeated Oregon State, 83-54
Dec. 21 Defeated Providence, 92-83
Dec. 27 Won at Lamar, 96-82
Dec. 30 Defeated North Carolina, 74-72
Jan. 3 Lost at Nebraska, 85-69
Jan. 6 Lost to Rice, 80-69
Jan. 13 Defeated Texas Christian, 103-88
Jan. 16 Won at Texas A&M, 86-70
Jan. 20 Defeated Southern Methodist, 81-63
Jan. 24 Defeated Baylor, 90-81
Jan. 28 Lost at Texas Tech, 79-78
Jan. 31 Lost to Oklahoma, 67-65
Feb. 3 Defeated Houston, 80-63
Feb. 7 Won at Rice, 79-64
Feb. 11 Won at Texas Christian, 102-81
Feb. 14 Defeated Texas A&M, 69-50
Feb. 17 Won at Southern Methodist, 101-66
Feb. 20 Won at Baylor, 80-72
Feb. 24 Lost to Texas Tech, 75-58
Feb. 26 Defeated Rhode Island, 81-77
March 2 Lost at Houston, 86-76
March 7 Defeated Baylor, 86-65
March 8 Defeated Southern Methodist, 89-67
March 9 Lost to Texas Tech, 75-73
|
| 14.1677 | UWGB 25-3 vs VT 22-5 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:20 | 143 |
| Wisconsin-Green Bay Phoenix 25-3
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
11 Luke Kiss G 6-1 175 FR
12 *Eric Jackson G 5-11 165 SR
13 Kevin Olm G 6-3 160 SO
14 *Tom Anderson F/G 6-4 185 SO
22 Gary Grzesk G/F 6-3 195 SR
24 *Ryan Borowicz G 6-0 175 SO
30 Pete Wade F 6-7 210 SO
31 Gabe Stevens F 6-4 195 SO
33 *Jeff Nordgaard F 6-6 226 SR
34 *Ben Berlowski G 6-3 195 SR
42 James Daggs F 6-7 190 FR
44 Mike Nabena F 6-8 215 FR
53 Matt Hill C 6-11 210 FR
54 Todd Hassenfelt F 6-7 215 FR
Coach: Mike Heideman
T O T A L 3-POINTERS
P L A Y E R GP-GS FG-FGA PCT FG-FGA PCT FT-FTA PCT AVG A TO BLK ST REB
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Nordgaard, Jeff 28 28 267 481 .555 6 22 .273 93 128 .727 6.4 68 52 10 29 22.6
Berlowski, Ben 28 27 133 305 .436 61 137 .445 98 118 .831 4.3 54 37 3 27 15.2
Grzesk, Gary 28 28 48 91 .527 1 1 1.00 72 97 .742 4.5 147 39 4 48 6.0
Jackson, Eric 28 28 52 127 .409 30 82 .366 33 45 .733 2.3 101 43 2 27 6.0
Wade, Pete 28 20 49 130 .377 4 22 .182 40 48 .833 3.5 15 26 10 9 5.1
Anderson, Tom 23 2 35 75 .467 4 12 .333 20 33 .606 2.1 11 33 0 15 4.1
Olm, Kevin 28 2 25 48 .521 5 14 .357 24 35 .686 1.4 55 25 5 14 2.8
Nabena, Mike 26 0 12 27 .444 0 0 .000 26 36 .722 1.0 9 15 3 3 1.9
Hill, Matt 25 5 18 40 .450 0 0 .000 6 10 .600 1.2 5 6 7 1 1.7
Stevens, Gabe 17 0 5 14 .357 3 6 .500 4 6 .667 0.8 3 6 0 1 1.0
Daggs, James 11 0 2 4 .500 0 0 .000 5 8 .625 0.1 0 2 0 1 0.8
Kiss, Luke 10 0 0 7 .000 0 2 .000 3 4 .750 0.2 0 2 0 1 0.3
Hassenfelt, Todd 5 0 0 3 .000 0 0 .000 0 2 .000 0.8 1 0 0 0 0.0
Rondorf, Rico 5 0 0 1 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0
Borowicz, Ryan 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Wis.-Green Bay 28 646 1353 .477 114 298 .383 424 570 .744 29.4 469 290 44 176 65.4
Opponents 28 549 1362 .403 169 533 .317 292 448 .652 30.3 299 416 58 129 55.7
Schedule/results
Nov. 28 Defeated Morgan State, 76-54
Dec. 1 Defeated Texas A&M, 60-49
Dec. 2 Lost to Marquette, 64-44
Dec. 6 Lost at Kentucky, 74-62
Dec. 9 Defeated Idaho State, 73-56
Dec. 13 Won at Oregon, 81-71
Dec. 16 Defeated Michigan Tech, 60-52
Dec. 23 Won at Western Kentucky, 59-56
Dec. 29 Defeated Coppin State, 66-57
Dec. 30 Defeated Princeton, 55-35
Jan. 4 Defeated Wright State, 78-52
Jan. 6 Defeated Cleveland State, 71-57
Jan. 11 Won at Loyola, 64-51
Jan. 13 Won at Butler, 64-61
Jan. 15 Defeated Detroit, 71-69
Jan. 18 Won at Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 67-54
Jan. 20 Defeated Illinois-Chicago, 73-67
Jan. 25 Defeated Northern Illinois, 61-53
Feb. 1 Won at Cleveland State, 74-48
Feb. 3 Won at Wright State, 60-53
Feb. 10 Won at Northern Illinois, 57-51
Feb. 12 Won at Detroit, 46-44
Feb. 14 Defeated Loyola, 56-39
Feb. 19 Defeated Wisconsin-Milwaukee, 81-66
Feb. 22 Won at Illinois-Chicago, 90-56
Feb. 24 Defeated Butler, 73-66
March 2 Defeated Loyola, 58-48
March 3 Lost to Detroit, 56-50
Virginia Tech Hokies 22-5
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Jim Jackson G/F 6-5 190 JR
4 David Jackson G/F 6-5 196 JR
5 Troy Manns G 6-1 192 JR
10 Kelly Mann G 6-3 188 SO
11 Myron Guillory G 6-1 178 SO
20 *Ace Custis F 6-7 206 JR
21 *Shawn Good G 6-3 195 SR
22 Andre Ray F 6-4 205 FR
23 *Damon Watlington G 6-2 182 SR
24 Keefe Matthews F/C 6-8 210 JR
32 Shawn Browne F 6-6 180 FR
33 *Travis Jackson C 6-8 242 SR
42 *Shawn Smith F 6-6 247 SR
43 Alvaro Tor F/C 6-9 218 FR
Coach: Bill Foster
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Pts
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Custis, A 26-26 144-283 .509 5- 19 .263 60- 96 .667 9.8 66 59 28 45 13.6
Watlington, D 26-26 122-263 .464 54-116 .466 51- 61 .836 2.4 66 29 14 19 13.4
Smith, S 26-26 100-231 .433 11- 31 .355 94-115 .817 4.5 75 45 6 20 11.7
Jackson, T 26-26 92 -186 .495 16- 29 .552 16- 25 .640 4.0 22 28 16 15 8.3
Good, S 25-24 75 -156 .481 14- 45 .311 23- 32 .719 3.7 76 35 13 32 7.5
Jackson, J 24- 0 38 - 83 .458 9- 26 .346 27- 44 .614 2.4 24 22 5 9 4.7
Manns, T 26- 0 34 - 85 .400 12- 30 .400 30- 46 .652 1.8 61 33 0 11 4.2
Matthews, K 26- 0 41 - 92 .446 0- 1 .000 13- 30 .433 1.8 7 25 2 7 3.7
Jackson, D 21- 0 22 - 52 .423 11- 31 .355 14- 20 .700 1.3 9 10 0 2 3.3
Guillory, M 23- 2 13 - 32 .406 4- 16 .250 5- 8 .625 0.5 15 13 0 7 1.5
Browne, S 7- 0 3 - 8 .375 0- 0 .000 1- 2 .500 0.3 0 0 1 1 1.0
Tor, A 7- 0 2 - 6 .333 0- 0 .000 0- 6 .000 1.0 0 2 0 0 0.6
Mann, K 8- 0 0 - 6 .000 0- 3 .000 2- 2 1.000 0.9 1 2 0 0 0.3
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Virginia Tech 26 686-1483 .463 136-347 .392 336-481 .699 35.1 422 306 85 169 70.9
Opponents 26 588-1429 .411 128-435 .294 312-441 .692 32.4 302 366 72 156 62.2
Schedule/results
Dec. 2 Won at William & Mary, 71-66
Dec. 9 Defeated Virginia Military, 99-67
Dec. 16 Lost to Georgia, 85-72
Dec. 18 Defeated West Virginia, 68-62
Dec. 28 Defeated Virginia, 72-64
Dec. 31 Defeated Wright State, 62-46
Jan. 4 Defeated UNC-Charlotte, 76-60
Jan. 10 Won at Duquesne, 88-69
Jan. 13 Defeated La Salle, 71-55
Jan. 15 Defeated George Washington, 79-71
Jan. 18 Defeated Dayton, 63-62
Jan. 22 Won at St. Bonaventure, 65-58
Jan. 25 Lost at George Washington, 64-47
Jan. 27 Defeated Fordham, 81-57
Jan. 29 Defeated St. Joseph's (Pa.), 85-76
Jan. 31 Defeated UNC-Greensboro, 74-48
Feb. 3 Won at Rhode Island, 72-66
Feb. 6 Defeated Duquesne, 69-63
Feb. 10 Won at Xavier (Ohio), 78-73
Feb. 13 Defeated Liberty, 56-53
Feb. 17 Lost to Massachusetts, 74-58
Feb. 22 Won at La Salle, 61-56
Feb. 25 Lost at Temple, 57-41
Feb. 29 Defeated Xavier (Ohio), 70-61
March 2 Won at Dayton, 73-54
March 7 Lost to Rhode Island, 77-71
|
| 14.1678 | UConn 30-2 vs Colgate 15-14 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:27 | 156 |
| Connecticut Huskies 30-2
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Rashamel Jones G/F 6-5 195 FR
10 Ruslan Inyatkin F 6-7 218 SO
11 *Doron Sheffer G 6-5 200 SR
13 *Kirk King F 6-8 230 JR
14 Justin Srb G 6-3 180 SR
20 Kyle Chapman G 6-3 180 SR
21 Ricky Moore G 6-2 185 FR
22 Antric Klaiber F 6-10 205 FR
23 *Rudy Johnson F 6-6 196 SR
24 Dion Carson G 6-3 185 JR
34 *Ray Allen G/F 6-5 202 JR
40 *Travis Knight C 7-0 233 SR
44 Predrag Materic G 6-5 195 FR
45 Eric Hayward F 6-7 250 SR
52 Pete Kane F 6-4 258 SR
Coach: Jim Calhoun
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
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Allen, R 29-29 246- 495 .497 96-198 .485 102-119 .857 6.6 101 67 15 50 23.8
Sheffer, D 29-29 145- 336 .432 82-197 .416 85-101 .842 4.6 183 91 8 56 15.8
King, K 29-28 114- 196 .582 0- 0 .000 52- 74 .703 6.1 30 42 52 11 9.7
Knight, T 28-27 103- 197 .523 0- 0 .000 47- 69 .681 9.0 56 67 58 20 9.0
Johnson, R 29-29 87- 156 .558 11- 27 .407 33- 44 .750 2.3 49 35 4 37 7.5
Jones, R 28- 0 67- 157 .427 20- 62 .323 19- 31 .613 1.8 29 30 0 16 6.2
Moore, R 29- 0 51- 100 .510 8- 29 .276 22- 44 .500 2.1 90 40 9 20 4.6
Hayward, E 29- 3 26- 54 .481 0- 0 .000 51- 66 .773 3.3 7 29 9 11 3.6
Inyatkin, R 23- 0 20- 39 .513 1- 1 1.000 13- 21 .619 1.0 4 13 1 4 2.3
Carson, D 22- 0 20- 49 .408 3- 10 .300 2- 3 .667 1.5 12 19 1 16 2.0
Klaiber, A 25- 0 7- 41 .171 1- 4 .250 7- 16 .438 1.9 6 14 7 4 0.9
Chapman, K 11- 0 2- 6 .333 0- 0 .000 2- 2 1.000 0.0 1 5 0 2 0.5
Cybart, J 2- 0 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 0 0 1 0.0
Kane, P 7- 0 0- 2 .000 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 3 0 0 0.0
Srb, J 8- 0 0- 4 .000 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 0.5 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Connecticut 29 888-1833 .484 222-530 .419 435-590 .737 43.0 568 456 164 248 83.9
Opponents 29 691-1802 .383 145-493 .294 339-528 .642 34.2 387 493 111 210 64.3
Schedule/results
Nov. 22 Defeated Texas Christian, 102-76
Nov. 24 Lost to Iowa, 101-95
Nov. 25 Defeated Indiana, 86-52
Nov. 29 Defeated Northeastern, 86-39
Dec. 3 Defeated Boston College, 63-62
Dec. 6 Won at Notre Dame, 85-65
Dec. 8 Defeated Yale, 93-66
Dec. 12 Won at Florida State, 79-61
Dec. 23 Defeated Fairfield, 86-52
Dec. 27 Won at Charleston (S.C.), 77-60
Dec. 30 Defeated Hartford, 102-63
Jan. 3 Won at West Virginia, 89-79
Jan. 6 Defeated Miami (Fla.), 73-52
Jan. 9 Defeated Villanova, 81-73
Jan. 13 Won at Providence, 83-74
Jan. 17 Defeated St. John's, 88-73
Jan. 21 Defeated Syracuse, 79-70
Jan. 23 Defeated Central Connecticut State, 116-46
Jan. 25 Won at Pittsburgh, 69-63
Jan. 28 Defeated Virginia, 76-46
Jan. 31 Won at Rutgers, 77-59
Feb. 3 Won at St. John's, 77-63
Feb. 6 Defeated Providence, 99-77
Feb. 14 Defeated West Virginia, 87-69
Feb. 17 Defeated Notre Dame, 85-65
Feb. 19 Lost at Georgetown, 77-65
Feb. 25 Won at Villanova, 70-59
Feb. 28 Defeated Rutgers, 78-66
March 2 Won at Seton Hall, 87-58
March 7 Defeated Seton Hall, 79-58
March 8 Defeated Syracuse, 85-67
March 9 Defeated Georgetown, 75-74
Colgate Red Raiders 15-14
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 *Jimmy Maloney G 6-2 192 SR
10 Chester Felts G 6-2 176 FR
15 Derek Hyra G 6-1 165 SR
21 Ryan Clements G 6-4 193 FR
22 *Mike Roberts G/F 6-1 225 SR
23 Tarique Johnson F 6-3 179 JR
25 *Seth Schaeffer G 6-3 205 SO
30 Brendan Tuohey G 6-4 186 SR
31 *Adonal Foyle C 6-10 255 SO
33 *Tim Bollin F 6-9 241 JR
41 Malik Cupid F 6-4 201 SR
42 Russ Lynch F 6-7 200 JR
45 Chad Wiswall F/G 6-5 215 FR
50 Ben Wandtke F 6-6 222 FR
55 Jason Waysville F 6-7 215 SO
Coach: Jack Bruen
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg AT TO BS ST Pts
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Foyle, A 27-26 214-407 .526 0- 3 .000 114-242 .471 335-12.4 38 104 149 21 20.1
Schaeffer, S 28-22 122-260 .436 78-192 .406 51- 60 .850 87- 3.1 44 42 1 23 13.3
Roberts, M 28-25 105-234 .449 35- 94 .372 64- 78 .821 88- 3.1 26 48 3 16 11.0
Bollin, T 27-23 70 -137 .511 0- 0 .000 39- 51 .765 126- 4.7 23 54 10 29 6.6
Maloney, J 28-25 48 -105 .457 4- 15 .267 71- 86 .826 80- 2.9 129 79 0 38 6.1
Cupid, M 22- 5 40 -110 .364 12- 46 .261 16- 19 .842 47- 2.1 6 18 4 13 4.9
Hyra, D 27- 2 33 - 94 .351 17- 45 .378 20- 30 .667 35- 1.3 30 19 1 8 3.8
Tuohey, B 28- 2 24 - 72 .333 16- 53 .302 17- 24 .708 45- 1.6 66 39 4 16 2.9
Wiswall, C 15- 0 11 - 30 .367 6- 13 .462 5- 5 1.000 12- 0.8 1 3 3 4 2.2
Wandtke, B 19- 3 16 - 39 .462 1- 3 .333 5- 7 .714 18- 0.9 9 6 1 2 2.2
Fells, C 2- 0 2 - 2 1.000 0- 0 .000 0- 1 .000 3- 1.5 1 1 0 0 2.0
Murray, R 17- 3 12 - 37 .324 3- 11 .273 3- 8 .375 18- 1.1 9 16 1 4 1.9
Lynch, R 16- 0 12 - 20 .600 1- 2 .500 0- 2 .000 8- 0.5 2 5 0 6 1.6
Rubin, J 13- 3 7 - 16 .438 1- 5 .200 6- 12 .500 13- 1.0 4 6 1 4 1.6
Clements, R 9- 0 2 - 8 .250 1- 3 .333 1- 4 .250 3- 0.3 2 5 0 2 0.7
Johnson, T 8- 1 1 - 3 .333 1- 1 1.000 1- 4 .250 2- 0.2 0 5 0 3 0.5
Gordon, E 1- 0 0 - 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0
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Colgate 28 721-1594 .452 176-486 .362 413-633 .652 1016-36.4 381 454 178 189 72.5
Opponents 28 717-1753 .409 201-571 .352 427-603 .708 1099-39.2 381 389 93 226 73.6
Schedule/results
Nov. 16 Lost at Georgetown, 106-57
Nov. 28 Lost at Syracuse, 89-55
Dec. 1 Defeated Mississippi, 53-51
Dec. 2 Lost to Iowa, 79-59
Dec. 9 Lost to Niagara, 72-68
Dec. 16 Won at Cornell, 75-70
Dec. 18 Lost to Canisius, 65-63
Dec. 28 Lost at Providence, 83-77
Dec. 30 Lost at Canisius, 62-51
Jan. 4 Defeated Yale, 66-56
Jan. 6 Lost at Manhattan, 73-60
Jan. 9 Lost at Harvard, 63-54
Jan. 11 Lost at Fairfield, 92-82
Jan. 13 Defeated Holy Cross, 85-67
Jan. 17 Won at Lehigh, 77-60
Jan. 20 Won at Navy, 89-67
Jan. 24 Lost to Bucknell, 83-75
Jan. 27 Won at Army, 81-72
Jan. 28 Lost at Iona, 97-74
Jan. 31 Defeated Lafayette, 91-76
Feb. 3 Defeated Siena, 101-84
Feb. 7 Lost at Holy Cross, 94-89
Feb. 10 Defeated Lehigh, 79-67
Feb. 14 Lost to Navy, 60-57
Feb. 17 Won at Bucknell, 73-68
Feb. 21 Defeated Army, 88-73
Feb. 24 Won at Lafayette, 85-72
March 3 Defeated Bucknell, 67-61
March 6 Defeated Holy Cross, 74-65
|
| 14.1679 | Cinci 25-4 vs UNCG 20-9 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:35 | 142 |
| Cincinnati Bearcats 25-4
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 *Art Long C 6-9 250 SR
3 *Damon Flint G 6-5 201 JR
4 *Keith LeGree G 6-1 215 SR
21 *Keith Gregor F 6-5 218 SR
23 Melvin Levett G/F 6-4 195 FR
24 Ryan Fletcher F 6-8 226 FR
25 *Danny Fortson F 6-7 260 SO
30 Terrence Davis G 6-2 197 JR
33 Darnell Burton G 6-2 200 JR
34 Bobby Brannen F 6-7 230 SO
40 Jackson Julson F 6-9 246 SO
44 Rodrick Monroe F 6-4 230 JR
Coach: Bob Huggins
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg Ast TO BS ST Pts
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Fortson, D 26-26 182-326 .558 0- 1 .000 178-235 .757 9.2 36 63 9 29 20.8
Burton, D 24- 0 108-249 .434 65-158 .411 40- 59 .678 2.4 51 24 1 34 13.4
Flint, D 26-23 120-266 .451 53-144 .368 30- 45 .667 2.8 90 44 10 39 12.4
Long, A 26-25 97 -220 .441 0- 4 .000 37- 67 .552 7.8 19 34 41 23 8.9
LeGree, K 26-26 72 -166 .434 4- 21 .190 62- 105 .590 3.7 147 72 2 33 8.1
Gregor, K 26-24 48 -110 .436 8- 24 .333 25- 49 .625 2.7 59 40 3 23 5.0
Monroe, R 25- 1 39 - 77 .506 0- 0 .--- 11- 29 .379 3.4 8 11 5 15 3.6
Julson, J 24- 0 23 - 42 .548 3- 10 .300 29- 36 .806 1.3 10 12 7 9 3.3
Levett, M 14- 0 17 - 34 .500 6- 16 .375 3- 4 .750 0.9 3 5 0 2 3.1
Davis, T 25- 0 20 - 40 .500 2- 7 .286 13- 18 .722 0.7 13 16 0 10 2.2
Brannen, B 26- 4 22 - 60 .367 0- 1 .000 11- 20 .550 3.2 10 26 2 8 2.1
Fletcher, R 14- 1 6 - 22 .273 1- 11 .091 5- 5 1.000 1.6 2 6 2 2 1.6
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Cincinnati 26 754-1612 .468 142-397 .358 444-663 .670 41.6 448 358 82 227 80.5
Opponents 26 561-1447 .388 126-450 .280 410-627 .654 33.2 247 366 88 141 53.8
Schedule/results
Nov. 29 Defeated Wyoming, 101-51
Dec. 7 Defeated UNC-Wilmington, 82-47
Dec. 8 Defeated Wagner, 100-64
Dec. 9 Won at Arkansas, 82-67
Dec. 13 Defeated Minnesota, 84-50
Dec. 16 Defeated Temple, 70-49
Dec. 20 Won at California, 77-70
Dec. 30 Defeated McNeese State, 103-69
Jan. 6 Won at South Florida, 71-69
Jan. 11 Won at Southern Mississippi, 75-70
Jan. 13 Defeated Marquette, 91-70
Jan. 17 Won at Xavier (Ohio), 99-90
Jan. 21 Lost at Alabama-Birmingham, 70-68
Jan. 25 Defeated DePaul, 71-61
Jan. 28 Defeated Southern Cal, 85-53
Jan. 31 Defeated UNC-Charlotte, 78-64
Feb. 2 Defeated Illinois State, 91-57
Feb. 4 Defeated South Florida, 79-60
Feb. 7 Defeated St. Louis, 81-49
Feb. 11 Lost to Arizona, 79-76
Feb. 17 Won at DePaul, 87-60
Feb. 19 Won at St. Louis, 69-64
Feb. 22 Lost to Louisville, 72-66
Feb. 25 Won at Tulane, 65-63
Feb. 29 Defeated Memphis, 71-66
March 2 Lost at Marquette, 74-72
March 7 Defeated St. Louis, 62-59
March 8 Defeated Louisville, 92-81
March 9 Defeated Marquette, 85-84
North Carolina-Greensboro Spartans 20-9
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
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5 *Scott Hartzell G 6-0 183 SR
10 Gary Mearite G 5-10 170 SR
15 Wesley Ervin G 5-10 163 FR
20 *Derrick Nix G 6-2 166 SO
21 Jeremy Davis G 6-4 191 JR
22 *Skeet Woolard F 6-4 200 SR
32 *Brian Brunson C/F 6-9 245 JR
33 Ivan Jaklenec C 6-8 228 SO
34 Eric Cuthrell C 6-9 230 SR
40 Tony Daughtry G 6-5 175 JR
42 *Jonathan Clifton F 6-5 205 SR
44 Demetrius Cherry F 6-7 215 FR
52 Larry Gilbert F 6-7 194 SO
Coach: Randy Peele
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Pts
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Brunson, B 29-29 149-292 .510 4- 8 .500 65-105 .619 5.2 20 58 9 19 12.7
Hartzell, S 29-29 106-235 .451 72-163 .442 64- 77 .831 2.7 145 65 0 21 12.0
Cuthrell, E 29- 0 111-202 .550 0- 0 .--- 88-140 .629 9.2 26 56 52 36 10.7
Davis, J 28- 9 68 -166 .410 9- 31 .290 58- 89 .652 3.1 52 55 6 22 7.3
Nix, D 28-25 62 -183 .339 42-103 .408 34- 49 .694 2.6 95 70 50 29 7.1
Woolard, S 29-18 61 -144 .424 48-108 .444 21- 30 .700 2.0 31 30 4 15 6.6
Clifton, J 28-27 74 -117 .632 0- 2 .000 24- 54 .444 4.8 22 33 31 13 6.1
Daughtry, T 29- 5 40 - 97 .412 13- 42 .310 32- 49 .653 2.0 20 30 3 14 4.3
Gilbert, L 25- 2 40 - 85 .471 4- 12 .333 19- 28 .679 2.0 14 25 9 8 4.1
Mearite, G 19- 1 5 - 14 .357 2- 3 .667 9- 13 .692 0.5 9 13 0 6 1.1
Cherry, D 18- 0 3 - 7 .429 0- 0 .--- 9- 12 .750 0.6 2 2 0 1 0.8
Stewart, J 13- 0 3 - 8 .375 2- 6 .333 0- 0 .--- 0.5 2 0 0 0 0.6
Jaklenec, I 6- 0 2 - 3 .667 1- 1 1.00 0- 0 .--- 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.8
McCurdy, D 6- 0 0 - 0 .--- 0- 0 .--- 0- 0 .--- 0.0 2 0 0 0 0.0
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UNCG 29 724-1553 .466 197-479 .411 423-646 .655 36.7 440 442 119 181 71.3
Opponents 26 699-1715 .408 186-555 .335 322-463 .695 34.1 384 400 74 208 65.7
Schedule/results
Nov. 24 Lost at South Carolina, 82-64
Nov. 29 Lost at Duke, 71-57
Dec. 2 Defeated Campbell, 69-60
Dec. 6 Defeated Appalachian State, 80-64
Dec. 9 Defeated North Carolina A&T, 82-76
Dec. 18 Won at Hampton, 86-78
Dec. 22 Defeated Akron, 82-57
Dec. 27 Lost at Southern, 98-78
Dec. 30 Lost at Southwestern Louisiana, 77-64
Jan. 2 Defeated St. Francis (Pa.), 67-47
Jan. 13 Defeated Coastal Carolina, 85-60
Jan. 18 Won at UNC-Asheville, 65-64
Jan. 20 Won at Winthrop, 82-60
Jan. 22 Defeated Maryland-Baltimore Co., 77-65
Jan. 24 Defeated Radford, 73-68
Jan. 27 Defeated Charleston Southern, 90-64
Jan. 29 Defeated Liberty, 63-56
Jan. 31 Lost at Virginia Tech, 74-48
Feb. 7 Lost at Radford, 81-67
Feb. 10 Won at Coastal Carolina, 75-62
Feb. 12 Lost to UNC-Asheville, 65-56
Feb. 15 Lost to Liberty, 67-47
Feb. 17 Defeated Winthrop, 89-60
Feb. 19 Lost at UNC-Charlotte, 62-58
Feb. 22 Won at Maryland-Baltimore Co., 68-49
Feb. 24 Won at Charleston Southern, 70-59
Feb. 29 Defeated Coastal Carolina, 78-67
March 1 Defeated Charleston Southern, 69-60
March 2 Defeated Liberty, 79-53
|
| 14.1680 | GT 22-11 vs APSU 19-10 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:40 | 143 |
| Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 22-11
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 *Stephon Marbury G 6-2 180 FR
5 *Eddie Elisma C 6-9 210 JR
10 *Drew Barry G 6-5 191 SR
11 Gary Saunders G 6-5 193 FR
15 *Matt Harpring F 6-7 226 SO
24 *Michael Maddox F 6-8 224 SO
31 Ryan Murphy G 6-3 200 SO
32 Juan Gaston F 6-7 214 FR
33 Bryan Brennan G 6-4 195 SO
41 Brandon Lewis G 6-1 163 FR
42 Ajani Williams F 6-7 166 FR
44 John Kelly G 5-11 160 SR
45 Bucky Hodge F/C 6-9 226 SO
52 Ashley Kelly F 6-6 182 FR
Coach: Bobby Cremins
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
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Marbury, S 30-29 192- 430 .447 68-198 .343 100-140 .714 3.1 131 99 4 53 18.4
Harpring, M 30-30 188- 379 .496 51-124 .411 119-158 .753 8.6 69 70 4 52 18.2
Barry, D 30-30 130- 309 .421 67-175 .383 82-103 .796 4.7 185 108 11 56 13.6
Elisma, E 30-30 108- 167 .647 0- 0 .000 52- 86 .605 7.6 45 50 56 26 8.9
Maddox, M 30-30 100- 207 .483 15- 46 .326 41- 62 .661 4.5 32 51 19 12 8.5
Saunders, G 30- 0 76- 177 .429 24- 67 .358 27- 39 .692 1.5 29 39 7 22 6.8
Gaston, J 30- 0 47- 99 .475 5- 13 .385 14- 28 .500 2.3 11 15 2 20 3.8
Hodge, B 24- 0 7- 17 .412 0- 0 .000 3- 7 .429 0.7 3 4 3 0 0.7
Williams, A 3- 0 1- 3 .333 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.3 0 0 0 0 0.7
Kelly, J 13- 1 3- 10 .300 0- 5 .000 2- 7 .286 0.3 2 2 0 0 0.6
Brennan, B 11- 0 2- 9 .222 0- 2 .000 1- 2 .500 0.3 0 1 0 1 0.5
Kelly, A 2- 0 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.5 0 1 0 0 0.0
Murphy, R 9- 0 0- 2 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 1 .000 0.2 6 0 0 1 0.0
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Totals 30 854-1809 .472 230-630 .365 441-633 .697 37.0 513 444 106 243 79.3
Opponents 30 849-1911 .444 209-583 .358 346-535 .647 37.0 507 438 101 239 75.1
Schedule/results
Nov. 15 Defeated Manhattan, 87-67
Nov. 17 Defeated Oklahoma, 83-72
Nov. 22 Lost to Georgetown, 94-72
Nov. 24 Defeated Michigan, 77-61
Nov. 27 Defeated Campbell, 87-76
Dec. 2 Won at Appalachian State, 89-65
Dec. 9 Lost at Kentucky, 83-60
Dec. 13 Lost at Georgia, 94-70
Dec. 16 Defeated Louisville, 88-77
Dec. 18 Lost to Mount St. Mary's, 71-69
Dec. 22 Lost to Massachusetts, 75-67
Dec. 29 Lost to Bradley, 84-82
Dec. 30 Lost at Santa Clara, 71-66
Jan. 3 Defeated Maryland, 98-84
Jan. 7 Won at Duke, 86-81
Jan. 10 Defeated North Carolina, 80-77
Jan. 13 Defeated Western Carolina, 91-78
Jan. 17 Lost at Wake Forest, 66-63
Jan. 20 Defeated Virginia, 90-70
Jan. 24 Won at North Carolina State, 76-71
Jan. 27 Defeated Florida State, 79-58
Jan. 30 Lost at Clemson, 73-70
Feb. 3 Lost at Maryland, 88-74
Feb. 7 Defeated Duke, 73-71
Feb. 10 Won at North Carolina, 92-83
Feb. 17 Defeated Wake Forest, 64-63
Feb. 21 Won at Virginia, 84-75
Feb. 25 Defeated North Carolina State, 92-83
Feb. 28 Won at Florida State, 83-68
March 3 Defeated Clemson, 87-74
March 8 Defeated North Carolina State, 88-73
March 9 Defeated Maryland, 84-79
March 10 Lost to Wake Forest, 75-74
Austin Peay State Governors 19-10
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
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3 Cole Casbon G 6-2 180 SR
4 Adrian Sensabaugh G 6-2 185 JR
5 Jake Powers F 6-7 195 SO
10 *Joe Sibbitt G 6-0 155 SO
11 Clint Mason G 6-0 170 JR
13 *Bubba Wells F 6-5 225 JR
21 *Colby Pierce G 6-2 175 JR
22 Mike Witherspoon F 6-5 210 SO
23 *Jermaine Savage G/F 6-4 175 SR
44 *Reggie Crenshaw F 6-7 215 SO
54 Eddie Perdue C 7-2 225 FR
Coach: Dave Loos
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb- Avg AT TO BS ST Pts
Wells, B 29-29 305-549 .556 34-75 .453 129-171 .754 214 7.4 79 76 44 46 26.7
Savage, J 29-29 196-411 .477 41-116 .353 71-94 .755 165 5.7 51 48 7 30 17.4
Sibbitt, J 29-24 95-238 .399 87-215 .405 42-50 .840 53 1.8 60 22 0 28 11.0
Crenshaw, R 29-29 95-194 .490 18-50 .360 49-72 .681 206 7.1 39 53 43 43 8.9
Pierce, C 29-29 58-138 .420 8-24 .333 45-73 .616 107 3.7 198 88 7 58 5.8
Witherspoon, M 28-0 44-79 .557 2-3 .667 14-42 .333 74 2.6 10 27 4 10 3.7
Casbon, C 28-4 27-77 .351 6-28 .214 9-14 .643 33 1.2 38 17 4 15 2.5
Sensabaugh, A 29-1 23-66 .348 6-28 .214 9-16 .563 16 0.6 29 27 3 13 2.1
Powers, J 22-0 8-15 .533 0-2 .000 11-21 .524 29 1.3 1 12 2 5 1.2
Perdue, E 12-0 5-9 .556 0-0 .000 3-4 .750 9 0.8 1 5 9 1 1.1
Mason, C 10-0 1-4 .250 0-1 .000 0-1 .000 1 0.1 1 6 0 2 0.2
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Totals 29 857-1780 .481 202-542 .373 382-558 .685 999 34.4 507 381 123 251 79.2
Opponents 29 828-1838 .450 159-476 .334 319-485 .658 1125 38.8 384 460 78 210 73.6
Schedule/results
Nov. 27 Defeated Northern Illinois, 68-65
Nov. 30 Defeated Martin Methodist, 98-81
Dec. 5 Lost to Samford, 67-63
Dec. 9 Lost at Tennessee, 80-70
Dec. 16 Defeated Cumberland (Tenn.), 100-70
Dec. 18 Lost at Missouri, 81-58
Dec. 20 Won at Southern Illinois, 78-65
Dec. 29 Defeated Air Force, 91-72
Dec. 30 Lost at Toledo, 88-74
Jan. 6 Lost at Middle Tennessee State, 88-69
Jan. 11 Lost at Tennessee State, 81-76
Jan. 13 Defeated Tennessee Tech, 86-83
Jan. 15 Defeated Southeast Missouri State, 82-69
Jan. 20 Won at Eastern Kentucky, 72-71
Jan. 24 Won at Morehead State, 71-65
Jan. 27 Lost to Murray State, 71-64
Jan. 29 Lost to Tennessee-Martin, 91-83
Feb. 3 Lost to Middle Tennessee State, 75-66
Feb. 8 Won at Samford, 85-69
Feb. 10 Won at Southeast Missouri State, 84-71
Feb. 12 Won at Tennessee Tech, 93-74
Feb. 15 Defeated Tennessee State, 102-75
Feb. 17 Defeated Morehead State, 89-78
Feb. 19 Defeated Eastern Kentucky, 90-75
Feb. 24 Lost at Tennessee-Martin, 67-64
Feb. 26 Won at Murray State, 80-65
Feb. 29 Defeated Eastern Kentucky, 89-67
March 1 Defeated Tennessee State, 83-62
March 2 Defeated Murray State, 70-68
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| 14.1681 | UCLA 23-7 vs Princeton 21-6 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:49 | 142 |
| UCLA Bruins 23-7
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 Harold Sylvester G 5-10 161 SO
5 *Cameron Dollar G 6-1 173 JR
12 *Toby Bailey G 6-5 195 SO
13 *Charles O'Bannon F 6-6 205 JR
20 Brandon Loyd G 6-0 170 FR
24 Bob Myers F 6-6 220 JR
30 Kevin Dempsey F 6-6 210 SR
34 *Jelani McCoy C 6-10 220 FR
50 omm'A Givens C/F 6-10 235 SO
52 *J.R. Henderson F 6-9 225 SO
54 Kris Johnson G/F 6-4 220 SO
Coach: Jim Harrick
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Pts
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J.R. Henderson 28-28 158-276 .572 1- 3 .333 99-146 .678 7.1 55 60 11 32 14.9
Toby Bailey 30-30 166-358 .464 59-148 .399 54-85 .635 4.3 105 109 11 26 14.8
Charles O'Bannon 30-29 163-305 .534 23- 58 .397 87-113 .770 5.9 77 93 19 34 14.5
Kris Johnson 30-21 144-255 .565 8- 23 .348 82-108 .759 4.3 52 72 10 12 12.6
Jelani McCoy 30-30 137-201 .682 0- 0 .000 40- 92 .435 6.9 28 62 101 18 10.5
Cameron Dollar 29-11 35 - 93 .376 6- 23 .261 47- 70 .671 2.8 133 13 0 51 4.2
Kevin Dempsey 25- 1 30 - 63 .476 13- 27 .481 20- 30 .667 1.1 36 13 10 0 3.7
omm'A Givens 20- 0 23 - 45 .511 0- 0 .000 25- 29 .862 3.6 4 5 6 0 3.6
Bob Myers 19- 0 18 - 27 .667 0- 0 .000 17- 26 .654 1.6 4 5 6 0 2.8
Ike Nwanko 6- 0 3 - 13 .231 0- 0 .000 3- 4 .750 1.7 1 2 3 1 1.5
Brandon Loyd 16- 0 4 - 17 .235 2- 11 .182 7- 8 .875 0.1 5 5 1 0 1.1
Barol Sylvester 9- 0 1 - 6 .167 1- 3 .333 0- 2 .000 0.2 2 2 0 0 0.3
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UCLA 30 882-1659 .532 113-296 .382 481-713 .675 37.5 502 539 160 199 78.6
Opponents 30 771-1862 .414 105-321 .327 423-622 .680 31.6 400 428 46 220 71.5
Schedule/results
Nov. 20 Lost to Santa Clara, 78-69
Nov. 21 Defeated Wisconsin, 68-57
Nov. 22 Lost to Vanderbilt, 75-71
Nov. 28 Defeated Cal State-Fullerton, 79-63
Dec. 2 Lost at Kansas, 85-70
Dec. 9 Defeated Maryland, 73-63
Dec. 18 Defeated Stephen F. Austin, 109-88
Dec. 20 Won at Notre Dame, 83-58
Dec. 23 Won at Nevada-Las Vegas, 89-82
Dec. 30 Defeated San Francisco, 92-58
Jan. 4 Won at Washington State, 78-73
Jan. 6 Won at Washington, 78-70
Jan. 11 Defeated Stanford, 64-56
Jan. 13 Defeated California, 93-73
Jan. 18 Won at Arizona State, 87-73
Jan. 20 Lost at Arizona, 88-79
Jan. 24 Defeated Southern Cal, 99-72
Jan. 27 Lost to Louisville, 78-76
Feb. 1 Defeated Oregon, 85-78
Feb. 3 Defeated Oregon State, 69-60
Feb. 8 Won at California, 73-65
Feb. 10 Lost at Stanford, 67-66
Feb. 15 Defeated Arizona, 76-75
Feb. 17 Defeated Arizona State, 87-70
Feb. 22 Won at Southern Cal, 61-59
Feb. 25 Lost at Duke, 85-66
Feb. 29 Won at Oregon State, 68-66
March 2 Won at Oregon, 77-71
March 7 Defeated Washington, 91-88
March 9 Defeated Washington State, 82-71
Princeton Tigers 21-6
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
4 Jason Osler G 6-0 195 JR
5 *Sydney Johnson G 6-3 165 JR
10 *Brian Earl G 6-2 160 FR
11 Jose Ramirez-Del Toro G 5-10 160 JR
15 *James Mestaglio G/F 6-4 180 SO
21 Mitch Henderson G 6-2 180 SO
23 Hans Kneeling G 6-1 165 SO
25 *Chris Doyal F 6-5 220 SR
30 *Steve Goodrich F 6-7 210 SO
31 Sean Gregory F 6-3 170 SO
32 Gabe Lawullis F 6-5 190 FR
32 Jesse Rosenfeld F 6-9 205 JR
35 Ben Hart F 6-7 200 SR
44 Darren Hite F 6-3 175 SO
55 Kevin Gillet C 6-11 240 FR
Coach: Pete Carril
3-POINT REBOUNDS
NO PLAYER GP-GS FGM-FGA FG% FGM-FGA FG% FTM-FTA FT% OFF DEF TOT/AVG AVG AST BLK TO STL
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30 Steve Goodrich 25-25 107-168 0.637 14-30 0.467 50-67 0.746 26 65 91/ 3.6 11.1 45 20 48 10
10 Brian Earl 25-25 85-173 0.491 53-123 0.431 35-50 0.700 12 37 49/ 2.0 10.3 40 2 26 19
21 Mitch Henderson 25-7 75-174 0.431 30-92 0.326 49-77 0.636 10 34 44/ 1.8 9.2 42 3 40 23
05 Sydney Johnson 25-25 74-167 0.443 34-105 0.324 39-54 0.722 23 90 113/ 4.5 8.8 77 12 39 30
25 Chris Doyal 25-20 74-150 0.493 30-74 0.405 23-39 0.590 29 111 140/ 5.6 8.0 39 1 42 24
15 Jamie Mastaglio 20-13 35-75 0.467 7-26 0.269 28-34 0.824 9 38 47/ 2.4 5.3 10 5 17 11
32 Gabe Lewullis 20-8 29-70 0.414 13-37 0.351 9-14 0.643 5 33 38/ 1.9 4.0 20 2 18 11
34 Jesse Rosenfeld 24-0 25-47 0.532 1-1 1.000 19-31 0.613 16 39 55/ 2.3 2.9 16 4 31 7
*J.Osier (Inactive) 7-0 8-24 0.333 6-21 0.286 3-4 0.750 1 8 9/ 1.3 3.6 2 0 3 2
35 Ben Hart 12-2 8-21 0.381 2-11 0.182 8-10 0.800 3 12 15/ 1.3 2.2 5 1 8 2
31 Sean Gregory 10-0 4-9 0.444 1-4 0.250 2-2 1.000 4 3 7/ 0.7 1.1 2 1 1 0
44 Darren Hite 8-0 3-8 0.375 0-1 0.000 2-2 1.000 1 2 3/ 0.4 1.0 1 2 0 0
11 Jose Del-Toro 9-0 1-5 0.200 0-3 0.000 4-4 1.000 0 0 0/ 0.0 0.7 0 0 1 0
55 Kevin Gillett 3-0 0-1 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0 0 0/ 0.0 0.0 1 0 1 0
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Princeton University 528-1092 0.484 191-528 0.362 271-388 0.698 158 516 674/27.0 418-11 1518/ 60.7 300 53 283 139
OPPONENTS 448-1095 0.409 107-347 0.308 272-399 0.682 200 483 683/27.3 419-9 1275/ 51.0 205 39 331 111
Schedule/results
Nov. 27 Won at Lehigh, 62-45
Nov. 29 Defeated Lafayette, 62-47
Dec. 1 Defeated Boise State, 61-41
Dec. 2 Defeated Fresno State, 59-54
Dec. 12 Lost to Monmouth (N.J.), 65-56
Dec. 18 Defeated St. Joseph's (Pa.), 88-78
Dec. 21 Lost to Iowa State, 50-47
Dec. 22 Defeated Nicholls State, 86-51
Dec. 29 Defeated Ohio, 65-60
Dec. 30 Lost at Wisconsin-Green Bay, 55-35
Jan. 3 Lost at La Salle, 52-49
Jan. 6 Lost to Pennsylvania, 57-55
Jan. 12 Defeated Yale, 56-55
Jan. 13 Defeated Brown, 64-36
Jan. 29 Defeated Haverford, 75-46
Feb. 2 Defeated Columbia, 66-45
Feb. 3 Defeated Cornell, 57-54
Feb. 9 Won at Harvard, 49-44
Feb. 10 Won at Dartmouth, 52-41
Feb. 16 Won at Brown, 58-56
Feb. 17 Won at Yale, 64-42
Feb. 23 Defeated Dartmouth, 65-39
Feb. 24 Defeated Harvard, 65-58
March 1 Won at Cornell, 65-49
March 2 Won at Columbia, 57-55
March 5 Lost at Pennsylvania, 63-49
March 9 Defeated Pennsylvania, 63-56
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| 14.1682 | MSU 22-7 vs VCU 24-8 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 17:54 | 145 |
| Mississippi State Bulldogs 22-7
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 Darryl Wilson G 6-1 185 SR
3 Marcus Bullard G 6-3 200 SO
15 Whit Hughes F 6-5 210 SO
20 Russell Walters F/C 6-10 235 SR
21 McKie Edmonson G 6-0 170 SO
22 Bart Hyche G 5-11 165 FR
23 David Rula G 6-3 175 FR
24 Early Smith F 6-8 235 FR
25 Erick Dampier C 6-11 265 JR
32 Dontae' Jones F 6-7 220 JR
33 Bubba Wilson C 6-10 240 SR
42 Tyrone Washington C/F 6-10 250 FR
44 Jay Walton F 6-7 225 SR
Coach: Richard Williams
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Avg AT TO BS ST Avg
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Wilson, D 25-25 129- 300 .430 67-176 .381 126-160 .788 4.4 81 57 5 43 18.0
Dampier, E 25-25 145- 258 .562 0- 0 .000 86-142 .606 9.5 50 68 82 12 15.0
Jones, D 24-23 132- 292 .452 15- 53 .283 51- 70 .729 6.4 50 59 16 23 13.8
Bullard, M 25-25 115- 238 .483 57-132 .432 42- 61 .689 3.8 12 102 4 42 13.2
Walters, R 25-25 60- 119 .504 0- 0 .000 29- 46 .630 5.8 12 36 6 11 6.0
Hyche, B 22- 0 24- 57 .421 13- 31 .419 16- 19 .842 1.0 22 30 1 16 3.5
Rula, D 2- 0 2- 5 .400 1- 3 .333 1- 2 .500 0.0 0 3 0 0 3.0
Hughes, W 25- 2 15- 39 .385 2- 15 .133 31- 38 .816 2.2 40 38 1 13 2.5
Hamilton, B 1- 0 1- 1 1.000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 0 0 1 2.0
Washington, T 23- 0 15- 42 .357 0- 0 .000 10- 15 .667 1.9 2 14 9 5 1.7
Edmonson, M 4- 0 2- 4 .500 1- 3 .333 1- 1 1.000 0.0 0 1 0 1 1.5
Wilson, B 15- 0 7- 12 .583 0- 0 .000 6- 9 .667 1.5 4 13 4 1 1.3
Walton, J 10- 0 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 6- 8 .750 0.5 3 5 0 0 0.6
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Miss. State 25 647-1367 .473 156-413 .378 405-571 .709 38.8 376 432 128 168 74.2
Opponents 25 607-1542 .394 180-539 .334 299-421 .710 33.5 282 360 67 196 67.7
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Southeastern Louisiana, 121-78
Nov. 28 Defeated UNC-Wilmington, 77-54
Dec. 2 Defeated Brigham Young, 79-74
Dec. 5 Defeated Troy State, 123-73
Dec. 9 Lost to Arkansas-Little Rock, 70-68
Dec. 16 Won at Southern Mississippi, 72-69
Dec. 19 Won at Northeast Louisiana, 66-60
Dec. 29 Defeated Oregon State, 76-62
Dec. 30 Defeated Nebraska, 69-66
Jan. 3 Won at Louisiana State, 77-64
Jan. 6 Won at Florida, 69-66
Jan. 9 Lost to Kentucky, 74-56
Jan. 13 Lost to Alabama, 56-55
Jan. 17 Defeated Mississippi, 53-47
Jan. 20 Lost at Arkansas, 80-68
Jan. 24 Lost at South Carolina, 77-69
Jan. 27 Defeated Tennessee, 60-59
Jan. 31 Defeated Georgia, 76-73
Feb. 4 Won at Auburn, 78-75
Feb. 6 Defeated Arkansas, 78-63
Feb. 10 Won at Oklahoma, 76-71
Feb. 17 Lost at Mississippi, 71-64
Feb. 21 Defeated Louisiana State, 88-77
Feb. 24 Won at Alabama, 73-65
Feb. 28 Lost at Vanderbilt, 69-64
March 2 Defeated Auburn, 67-51
March 8 Defeated Auburn, 69-58
March 9 Defeated Georgia, 86-68
March 10 Defeated Kentucky, 84-73
Virginia Commonwealth Rams 24-8
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
00 *George Byrd C 6-8 270 JR
3 *Ivan Chappell F 6-6 215 SR
4 John Smith C 6-8 275 SR
5 *Bernard Hopkins F 6-7 240 SR
12 Chris Wood F 6-4 200 JR
15 Ben Peabody G 6-4 180 SR
21 *Sherman Hamilton G 6-2 180 JR
32 Marcus Reed F/G 6-4 185 JR
33 *Patrick Lee G 6-1 200 JR
34 Marlow Talley F 6-7 240 SR
35 Joe Martin G 6-3 195 SO
43 Scott Marston F 6-7 195 FR
Coach: Sonny Smith
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Avg
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HOPKINS, B 32-32 215-380 .565 2- 6 .333 84-136 .618 10.1 71 93 15 30 16.1
HAMILTON, S 32-32 118-281 .420 62-170 .365 62- 95 .653 2.7 139 103 6 42 11.3
CHAPPELL, I 32-32 118-229 .515 17- 62 .274 69- 98 .704 3.9 41 47 2 23 10.1
BYRD, G 32-31 103-201 .512 0- 3 .000 89-139 .640 6.9 26 55 61 17 9.2
LEE, P 31-18 82-198 .414 26- 38 .295 46- 61 .754 3.1 74 51 15 43 7.6
PEABODY, B 32-14 64-143 .448 13- 33 .394 57- 90 .633 2.6 37 38 6 23 6.2
TALLEY, M 32- 1 77-150 .513 2- 9 .222 24- 35 .667 3.3 32 50 11 10 5.6
MARSTON, S 32- 0 31- 75 .413 13- 41 .317 27- 33 .818 1.0 14 26 1 6 3.2
REED, M 31- 0 32- 94 .340 12- 40 .300 13- 28 .464 1.7 42 36 2 22 2.9
SMITH, J 30- 0 24- 63 .381 0- 0 .000 18- 29 .621 1.7 12 27 7 11 2.2
RIDGES, T 13- 0 4- 25 .160 2- 12 .167 7- 14 .500 0.5 15 16 0 10 1.3
MARTIN, J 10- 0 2- 4 .500 0- 1 .000 2- 4 .500 0.4 0 3 0 0 0.6
WOOD, C 3- 0 0- 1 .000 0- 1 .000 0- 0 .000 0.3 0 0 0 0 0.0
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VCU 32 870-1844 .472 149-466 .320 498-763 .653 40.4 503 545 126 237 74.6
Opponents 32 788-1878 .420 195-582 .335 361-542 .666 31.5 404 509 100 260 66.6
Schedule/results
Nov. 24 Defeated Western Kentucky, 83-65
Nov. 25 Lost to Louisville, 83-74
Nov. 26 Defeated James Madison, 66-60
Nov. 30 Defeated Xavier (Ohio), 81-75
Dec. 2 Lost at Liberty, 86-71
Dec. 4 Defeated Florida International, 82-61
Dec. 7 Defeated UNC-Charlotte, 85-74
Dec. 9 Lost to Pittsburgh, 72-69
Dec. 16 Lost at Rhode Island, 68-63
Dec. 21 Lost at Virginia, 80-65
Dec. 23 Defeated Illinois State, 74-72
Dec. 27 Defeated Jackson State, 66-48
Dec. 28 Lost at New Orleans, 92-75
Jan. 4 Won at William & Mary, 70-47
Jan. 6 Won at Old Dominion, 85-70
Jan. 10 Defeated George Mason, 86-74
Jan. 13 Lost at East Carolina, 73-72
Jan. 17 Defeated James Madison, 81-70
Jan. 20 Defeated Richmond, 79-51
Jan. 24 Defeated American, 73-68
Jan. 29 Won at UNC-Wilmington, 63-45
Jan. 31 Won at George Mason, 94-81
Feb. 3 Defeated Old Dominion, 85-76
Feb. 7 Defeated William & Mary, 83-68
Feb. 10 Defeated East Carolina, 80-71
Feb. 13 Won at American, 65-57
Feb. 17 Lost at James Madison, 76-75
Feb. 21 Defeated UNC-Wilmington, 63-44
Feb. 24 Won at Richmond, 69-67
March 2 Defeated Richmond, 89-55
March 3 Defeated East Carolina, 75-60
March 4 Defeated UNC-Wilmington, 46-43
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| 14.1683 | IU 19-11 vs BC 18-10 | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Tue Mar 12 1996 18:00 | 143 |
| Indiana Hoosiers 19-11
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
3 *Charlie Miller F/G 6-7 205 SO
4 Chris Rowles G 6-1 180 SO
5 *Neil Reed G 6-2 185 SO
20 Sherron Wilkerson G 6-4 185 SO
21 Richard Mandeville C 7-0 250 SO
23 Kevin Lemme G 5-11 165 SR
32 Robbie Eggers F 6-10 245 SO
33 Larry Richardson F 6-8 210 FR
34 *Brian Evans F 6-8 220 SR
45 *Andrae Patterson F 6-8 230 SO
50 *Todd Lindeman C 7-0 265 SR
55 Haris Mujezinovic C 6-9 260 JR
Coach: Bobby Knight
Name G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT BS TO ST Avg
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Evans 28-28 195-428 .456 57-140 .407 163-193 .845 7.2 113 19 68 38 21.8
Patterson 28-26 116-250 .464 19-50 .380 64-87 .736 5.9 43 40 67 25 11.3
Reed 28-25 95-207 .459 58/124 .468 59-72 .819 2.4 126 3 66 35 11.0
Miller 28-22 80-166 .482 16-47 .340 67-91 .736 3.8 58 10 53 18 8.7
Mujezinovic 27-10 70-120 .583 0-0 .000 55-105 .524 4.1 9 4 33 13 7.2
Wilkerson 17-13 41-112 .387 10-31 .323 38-76 .500 3.5 55 1 39 16 7.5
Lindeman 21-9 73-109 .652 0-0 .000 35-76 .486 4.0 9 21 36 4 8.8
Mandeville 26-4 32-77 .416 3-8 .375 9-11 .818 2.8 13 2 17 9 2.9
Eggers 27-3 27-54 .500 10-0 .500 3-11 .273 2.0 12 5 15 11 2.5
Rowles 21-0 10-28 .357 1-8 .125 9-16 .563 1.3 28 1 21 8 1.4
Lemme 13-0 3-5 .600 2-4 .500 3-4 .750 0.2 1 0 3 1 0.8
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INDIANA 28 743-1558 .477 176-432 .407 506-720 .703 37.3 469 106 429 180 77.4
OPPONENTS 28 695-1682 .413 186-549 .339 393-576 .682 34.8 391 75 422 199 70.3
Schedule/results
Nov. 23 Defeated Alaska-Anchorage, 84-79
Nov. 24 Lost to Duke, 70-64
Nov. 25 Lost to Connecticut, 86-52
Nov. 28 Defeated Notre Dame, 73-53
Dec. 2 Lost to Kentucky, 89-82
Dec. 8 Defeated Delaware, 85-68
Dec. 9 Defeated Bowling Green, 78-67
Dec. 16 Lost to Kansas, 91-83
Dec. 20 Won at Evansville, 76-48
Dec. 23 Lost to DePaul, 84-82
Dec. 29 Defeated Appalachian State, 103-59
Dec. 30 Defeated Weber State, 82-62
Jan. 4 Lost at Michigan State, 65-60
Jan. 6 Defeated Ohio State, 89-67
Jan. 10 Defeated Wisconsin, 81-55
Jan. 13 Won at Illinois, 85-71
Jan. 16 Lost at Purdue, 74-69
Jan. 23 Defeated Michigan, 99-83
Jan. 27 Lost at Penn State, 82-68
Jan. 30 Defeated Iowa, 76-73
Feb. 4 Defeated Northwestern, 95-61
Feb. 6 Won at Minnesota, 81-66
Feb. 11 Lost at Iowa, 76-50
Feb. 14 Defeated Penn State, 72-54
Feb. 18 Lost at Michigan, 80-75
Feb. 25 Lost to Purdue, 74-72
Feb. 28 Defeated Illinois, 76-64
March 2 Won at Wisconsin, 76-68
March 6 Won at Ohio State, 73-56
March 10 Defeated Michigan State, 57-53
Boston College Eagles 18-10
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NO. PLAYER POS HT WT CLASS
-- ------ --- -- -- -----
4 Bevan Thomas F 6-8 225 JR
11 *Scoonie Penn G 5-10 175 FR
12 Greg Bartoli G 6-2 168 FR
14 Mickey Curley C 6-9 250 SO
20 *Duane Woodward G 6-3 170 SO
21 *Antonio Granger F 6-6 205 SO
22 *Keenan Jourdon F 6-7 225 JR
23 Kostas Maglos F 6-10 220 FR
24 *Danya Abrams F 6-7 265 JR
25 Pat Bosworth G 5-11 179 JR
32 Andy Bedard G 6-1 165 FR
33 Mike Piwerka F 6-9 230 SO
44 Brad Christianson F 6-7 215 JR
45 Nate Fox F 6-9 225 FR
Coach: Jim O'Brien
Player G-GS FG-FGA Pct 3P-3PA Pct FT-FTA Pct Reb AT TO BS ST Pts
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Abrams, D 26-26 165- 352 .469 9- 24 .375 161-232 .694 9.2 40 84 22 33 19.2
Penn, J 26-26 115- 263 .437 48-153 .314 63- 83 .759 3.5 96 56 4 34 13.1
Granger, A 26-23 108- 235 .460 47-119 .395 27- 39 .692 3.5 25 35 10 7 11.2
Woodward, D 24-22 66- 145 .455 21- 61 .344 65- 88 .739 3.4 80 51 9 25 9.1
Thomas, B 25- 3 69- 132 .523 15- 37 .405 34- 49 .694 4.6 20 35 4 5 7.5
Jourdon, K 26-26 68- 131 .519 10- 19 .526 47- 77 .610 5.2 31 55 5 35 7.4
Curley, M 26- 0 52- 119 .437 0- 0 .000 42- 51 .824 3.5 15 40 28 16 5.6
Maglos, K 6- 0 12- 22 .545 0- 2 .000 5- 8 .625 1.5 2 5 1 1 4.8
Bedard, A 25- 2 35- 80 .438 20- 52 .385 7- 11 .636 1.4 50 30 2 21 3.9
Christianson 20- 1 9- 25 .360 1- 7 .143 15- 20 .750 1.4 22 13 0 1 1.7
Piwerka, M 10- 0 4- 7 .571 0- 0 .000 4- 6 .667 1.1 1 2 1 0 1.2
Fox, N 8- 0 4- 9 .444 0- 3 .000 1- 1 1.000 0.9 1 2 1 3 1.1
Bosworth, P 9- 0 1- 4 .250 0- 2 .000 4- 4 1.000 0.0 2 5 0 1 0.7
Bartoli, G 4- 0 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.3 1 0 0 0 0.0
Team, 7- 0 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0- 0 .000 0.0 0 7 0 0 0.0
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Boston College 26 708-1524 .465 171-479 .357 475-669 .710 40.5 386 420 87 182 79.3
Opponents 26 649-1627 .399 156-507 .308 372-559 .665 35.7 298 368 87 176 70.2
Schedule/results
Nov. 25 Defeated Buffalo, 89-49
Nov. 27 Defeated Holy Cross, 97-60
Nov. 30 Defeated Louisville, 81-67
Dec. 3 Lost at Connecticut, 63-62
Dec. 6 Defeated Pittsburgh, 55-53
Dec. 9 Lost to Massachusetts, 65-57
Dec. 11 Defeated Maryland-Baltimore Co., 78-56
Dec. 23 Defeated Hartford, 106-67
Dec. 27 Defeated Long Island, 116-81
Dec. 30 Won at Vanderbilt, 90-74
Jan. 3 Won at Rutgers, 95-67
Jan. 6 Lost at Villanova, 94-77
Jan. 9 Defeated Notre Dame, 72-57
Jan. 14 Defeated Seton Hall, 83-80
Jan. 20 Defeated St. John's, 91-78
Jan. 27 Lost at Syracuse, 88-73
Feb. 1 Lost to Providence, 76-75
Feb. 3 Won at West Virginia, 84-63
Feb. 7 Won at St. John's, 89-73
Feb. 10 Won at Miami (Fla.), 62-58
Feb. 13 Lost to Georgetown, 66-63
Feb. 17 Won at Providence, 70-68
Feb. 21 Lost to West Virginia, 108-89
Feb. 24 Lost at Georgetown, 67-64
Feb. 27 Lost to Villanova, 76-71
March 3 Defeated Rutgers, 73-72
March 6 Defeated Pittsburgh, 70-66
March 7 Lost to Syracuse, 69-61
|
| 14.1684 | I am *so*, like, outta here :^) | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Wed Mar 13 1996 18:11 | 8 |
|
Off for the next couple days to catch the first round NCAA's
in Providence a whole lotta college basketball watching on TV!
GO SU - this is the year!
- Sean
|
| 14.1685 | PC bound ... Go BC! | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | Soar with the Eagles! | Wed Mar 13 1996 18:40 | 8 |
| >> Off for the next couple days to catch the first round NCAA's
>> in Providence a whole lotta college basketball watching on TV!
See you there Sean!
Vinny - Who will enjoy the short ride to Providence a lot
more than the trip to Syracuse ...
|
| 14.1686 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Mar 13 1996 19:01 | 4 |
| > Vinny - Who will enjoy the short ride to Providence a lot
> more than the trip to Syracuse ...
Probably sick of going to the Dome to see BC get their butts whipped... :-)
|
| 14.1687 | ... and Dick Vitale will be more annoying than ever | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Wed Mar 13 1996 19:24 | 32 |
|
I'll tell ya, I'll take the trip to SU or Providence anyday over
the one we had to Long Island 2 years ago... Nassau Colliseum is
the worst (although, the Fleet Center's got it in '99 I think,
and that's close NC in the worst-of category).
Here's my thoughts:
o I said it back when they lost to UMass, and I'm sticking
by it - BC will outdistance UMass in the Tourney
o My FF = UConn, SU, Villanova, and Georgetown. G'town
and Villanova is with my head, SU is with my heart, and
UConn is just to make it a complete set (but I actually
worry about them most - Colgate will not get whupped by
them).
o Most of the ACC will exit early.
o There will be less upsets (difference between seeds greater
than 4) than usual this year.
o Watch out for Princeton
Trivia:
Central Florida will have 504 more people than their entire
attendance for the year watching them play UMass tomorrow.
- Sean
|
| 14.1688 | Great hot wings though ... | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | Soar with the Eagles! | Wed Mar 13 1996 19:27 | 17 |
| >>> Vinny - Who will enjoy the short ride to Providence a lot
>>> more than the trip to Syracuse ...
>>
>> Probably sick of going to the Dome to see BC get their butts whipped... :-)
Never been to the Dome for BC/Syracuse *hoops* ... been there
two of the last six(?) years for the first and second rounds
of the NCAA tourney ... don't really care for the place that much
for basketball, just doesn't have the right "atmosphere" ...
The best first/second round games I have been to were in Hartford
for the UConn games ... the electricity in the place was fantastic ...
Worcester for the UMass games was a close second ...
Vinny - Hoping the Eagles make it to the round of 16! :-)
|
| 14.1689 | Sprots Tourney contest in hbabha get it in by noon tmw | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Wed Mar 13 1996 19:33 | 7 |
| Well I went ahead and posted a tourney contest in hbahba::pool_95. You
will have to do a little work in computing the total number of wins per
team and simply posting that in the column marked. I will compute the total
points the usual way and post the standings prior to the regionals and
semis.
Billte
|
| 14.1690 | Since there ain't no contest... way out on a limb this year | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Wed Mar 13 1996 20:54 | 9 |
|
Final Four selections:
Kansas Kansas
Cincinnati
Kansas
Georgetown Georgetown
Kentucky
|
| 14.1691 | Come one come all, hubba,hubba,hubba | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Wed Mar 13 1996 21:12 | 6 |
| You bum Glenn, there is a contest except I'm asking you to do a little
work to save a whole lot of work. Just go kp7 the previous reply, do a
little arithmetic and edit the shell in hbahba and go at it.
Even Billl managed; out respect for his elders I'm expecting Tommy to
take a shot. Now if my "brother" Ttom can somehow resurface...
|
| 14.1692 | i has surfaced | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Thu Mar 14 1996 15:44 | 23 |
| Here's how the seeds have done since the NCAA hoops tourney since 1979
through 1995. 79 was the first year that all teams were seeded. 85 was
the year that it went to 64 teams.
Seed W L .Pct Won 2nd Semi
---------------------------------------------------
1 198 61 .764 8 7 14
2 150 64 .701 4 5 10
3 97 66 .595 2 3 2
4 87 68 .561 - - 5
5 77 69 .527 - - 1
6 94 66 .588 2 1 3
7 62 68 .477 - - 1
8 51 67 .432 1 1 -
9 41 69 .373 - - 1
10 36 68 .346 - - -
11 31 64 .326 - - 1
12 23 64 .264 - - -
13 10 44 .185 - - -
14 11 44 .200 - - -
15 2 44 .043 - - -
16 0 44 .000 - - -
|
| 14.1693 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 15:55 | 6 |
| First half:
San Jose State 23, Kentucky 22 (SJSU outrebounding UK by 12-5)
UConn 38, Colgate 21 (3:55 left, 1st half)
Stanford 25, Bradley 16 (6:29 left, 1st half)
|
| 14.1694 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:19 | 4 |
|
Go SJSU!
Joe
|
| 14.1695 | | MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::long | Beat em Bucs | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:26 | 7 |
| > Even Billl managed
I love it when I'm used as a benchmark.
billl
|
| 14.1696 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:35 | 3 |
| UConn 58, Colgate 42, 11:53 2nd half
Kentucky 47, SJSU 41, halftime
Stanford 38, Bradley 30, 2nd half
|
| 14.1697 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:45 | 5 |
| UConn 63, Colgate 51, 7:29 2nd half
Stanford 46, Bradley 37, 12:13 2nd half
Kentucky 62, SJSU 48, 14:16 2nd half
SJSU almost 2-1 rebound advantage, but has 16 TO's to 3 for UK
|
| 14.1698 | in black and white | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:52 | 4 |
| > Kentucky 62, SJSU 48, 14:16 2nd half
> SJSU almost 2-1 rebound advantage, but has 16 TO's to 3 for UK
You've identified why they won't win the nat'l championship.
|
| 14.1699 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:54 | 6 |
| >> Kentucky 62, SJSU 48, 14:16 2nd half
>> SJSU almost 2-1 rebound advantage, but has 16 TO's to 3 for UK
>You've identified why they won't win the nat'l championship.
The second stat identifies why they might...
|
| 14.1700 | Van Horn to miss game; Davidson gets routed | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:58 | 11 |
| Since the team tourney contests are closed, some of you might wanna know
that Van Horn won't be playing for Utah, at least for the opening game.
He has some kinda viral flu/infection.
And did anyone notice that Davidson proved the NCAA committee right in
not inviting them. They lost lasted night at So Carolina, 100-73. Former
Tar Heel, Larry Davis tossed in a nifty 33, including shooting 12-13 from
the field.
TTom
|
| 14.1701 | Is Vitale ever right, about anything? | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Thu Mar 14 1996 16:58 | 11 |
|
> And did anyone notice that Davidson proved the NCAA committee right in
> not inviting them. They lost lasted night at So Carolina, 100-73. Former
> Tar Heel, Larry Davis tossed in a nifty 33, including shooting 12-13 from
> the field.
Davidson, yet another Dickie V "slighted ba-by" special...
glenn
|
| 14.1702 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 17:35 | 20 |
| In Indianapolis, a final:
Colgate 15-15 26 33 - 59
Connecticut 31-2 43 25 - 68
Ray Allen 24 points, Doron Sheffer 19 points to lead UConn.
Adonal Foyle with 21 pts and 14 rebounds, Seth Schaeffer 18 points
to lead Colgate.
In Providence, a final:
Stanford 20-8 33 33 - 66
Bradley 22-8 25 33 - 58
Brevin Knight with 26 points to lead the Cardinal; Anthony Parker
picks up 34 to lead Bradley. (Aren't these guys on my list?)
UK leads SJSU 106-72 in second half. SJSU just got worn out.
|
| 14.1703 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 17:43 | 9 |
| In Dallas, a final:
San Jose State 13-17 41 31 - 72
Kentucky 29-2 47 63 - 110
Walter McCarty with 24 points and Antoine Walker with 14 pts, 9 boards
lead Kentucky. Olivier Saint-John, who led SJSU to a first half lead
until he picked up his 3rd foul with just over 6 minutes left in the
half, led the Spartans with 18 points, 7 rebounds.
|
| 14.1704 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Mar 14 1996 17:58 | 1 |
| Is Montana St. leading Syracuse early so I can have a coronary?
|
| 14.1705 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Thu Mar 14 1996 18:06 | 3 |
| >Is Montana St. leading Syracuse early so I can have a coronary?
Yes (18-15)...proceed to nearest ER.
|
| 14.1706 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 18:23 | 11 |
| In Providence,
Massachusetts 29, Central Florida 25, 7:25 left, 1st half
In Indianapolis,
Duke 26, Eastern Michigan 26, halftime
In Dallas,
Virginia Tech 12, Wisconsin-Green Bay 8, 10:56 left, 1st half
In Albuquerque,
Syracuse 34, Montana State 26, 3:58 left, 1st half
|
| 14.1707 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 18:35 | 7 |
| EMU leading 35-28 over Duke, about 4 minutes gone in 2nd half.
Woodson, EMU center has picked up his 3rd and 4th blocks of game
early in this half. EMU looks very good.
I don't see much of UConn, so don't know about Ricky Moore (I believe
that's the name I heard), but he separated his shoulder and is expected
to be out for Saturday's game against EMU or Duke.
|
| 14.1708 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 18:42 | 4 |
| Syracuse leads Montana State, 47-36, about 3 minutes gone in 2nd half.
EMU 39, Duke 30, 6 minutes gone 2nd half
UMass 43, UCF 39, halftime.
VPI leads UWGB at the half, twenty-something to 19.
|
| 14.1709 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:04 | 3 |
| East: Massachusetts 60, Central Florida 44, 13:05 left
SE: Eastern Michigan 60, Duke 47, about 5 minutes left
West: Suracuse 69, Montana State 45, 8:40 left
|
| 14.1710 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:07 | 1 |
| MW: Virginia Tech 34, Wiscons-Green Bay 30, 13:45 left
|
| 14.1711 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:09 | 2 |
| Now that Syracuse is in the clear, someone is going to tell me that
Jeff Nordgaard only has 3 points for Wisc-GB... :-)
|
| 14.1712 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:23 | 4 |
| Syracuse beat Montana State, 88-55.
Eastern Michigan has just beaten Duke, 75-60.
UMass leads UCF 74-49, about 8 minutes left.
VPI 44, UWGB 36, 5 1/2 minutes left (Nordgaard with 16 points).
|
| 14.1713 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:26 | 2 |
|
Thanks for your help, Rich. The double reverse KOD is a tricky maneuver... :-)
|
| 14.1714 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:38 | 3 |
| VPI keeps hitting two free throws in between, but UWGB has hit
four straight three point attempts. 53-48 VPI with just over
1 minute left. Nordgaard has hit 2 of the 3-pointers, BTW.
|
| 14.1715 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:47 | 10 |
| Final from Providence,
Central Florida 11-19 39 31 - 70
Massachusetts 32-1 43 49 - 92
Travieso with 21 points, Padilla with 15, Camby with 14 lead UMass;
Kennedy leads UCF with 18.
Virginia Tech has beaten UW-Green Bay, 61-48. Nordgaard with 22.
|
| 14.1716 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Thu Mar 14 1996 19:55 | 21 |
| > Never been to the Dome for BC/Syracuse *hoops* ... been there
> two of the last six(?) years for the first and second rounds
> The best first/second round games I have been to were in Hartford
> for the UConn games ... the electricity in the place was fantastic ...
Vinny, as I stated after returning from the SU-Gtown game at the Carrier
Dome in February, there couldn't be any more electricity in that building.
The Dome's atmosphere can be less than electric if there isn't a big-time
rival in the building. It's just so big ! Comparing it to the Centrum
is like comparing the Rose Bowl to your town's HS field. It can't be done.
SU crowds also have more of an adult mix, as it's the only game in town
for a very large geographic area. If every SU student attended a game
they'd only half-fill the place. Adults don't get crazy nearly as much
as college kids.
If it's loud, raucous noise you're looking for, you won't get it every
time in the Carrier Dome. But it provides so much more when you take
in the complete package (concessions, entertainment).
|
| 14.1717 | I know yunz were waitin' with baited breath... | MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::long | Beat em Bucs | Thu Mar 14 1996 20:52 | 8 |
| Here's a tid bit fer ya...
So far three of the #9 seeds have _upset_ the #8 seeds.
That doesn't bode well for the Bulldogs tonight.
billl
|
| 14.1718 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | I'm tired of SNOW.... | Thu Mar 14 1996 21:51 | 5 |
|
Who cares about #8 and #9, Drexel #12 beat #5 Memphis. In a money
pool, Karen had Drexel and I had Memphis.
Ron
|
| 14.1719 | | MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::long | Beat em Bucs | Thu Mar 14 1996 21:54 | 6 |
| And Joe Huber was the one one in the HBAHBA:: pool to pick
lowly Drexel.
billl
|
| 14.1720 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:08 | 3 |
| What was the final Princeton/UCLA score?
I know Princeton won... :-)
|
| 14.1721 | | CAM::WAY | There's the devil to pay! | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:12 | 15 |
| Princeton 43
UCLA 41
WHAT a game. You all know I'm not a great fan of basketball, but this game
kept my attention riveted and I was fighting for the underdog all the way.
Great game by Princeton.
This kind of game, to me, is what makes this tournament special. It was nice
that it had a great human interest angle too.
'Saw
|
| 14.1723 | | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Atlanta, Home of the WS Champs | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:16 | 4 |
| 43 - 41.
UMDan
|
| 14.1724 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:16 | 141 |
| Massachusetts 31-1
-------------------- UMass 92-70
Central Fla. 11-18 ---------------
--------------------
Bradley 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- Stanford 66-58
Stanford 19-8 ---------------
--------------------
Marquette 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- Marquette 68-44
Monmouth 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
Penn State 21-6 ---------------
-------------------- Arkansas 86-80
Arkansas 18-12 ---------------
--------------------
Georgetown 26-7 ---------------
--------------------
Miss. Valley 22-6 ---------------
--------------------
New Mexico 27-4 ---------------
--------------------
Kansas State 17-11 ---------------
--------------------
Texas Tech 28-1 ---------------
--------------------
Northern Ill. 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
North Carolina 20-10 ---------------
--------------------
New Orleans 21-8 ---------------
--------------------
Connecticut 30-2
-------------------- UConn 68-59
Colgate 15-14 ---------------
--------------------
Duke 18-12 ---------------
-------------------- EMU 75-60
Eastern Mich. 24-5 ---------------
--------------------
UCLA 23-7 ---------------
-------------------- Princeton 43-41
Princeton 21-6 ---------------
--------------------
Mississippi St. 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- MSU 58-51
Virginia Comm. 24-8 ---------------
--------------------
Cincinnati 25-4 ---------------
--------------------
UNC-Greensboro 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
Temple 19-12 ---------------
--------------------
Oklahoma 17-12 ---------------
--------------------
Georgia Tech 22-11 ---------------
--------------------
Austin Peay 19-10 ---------------
--------------------
Indiana 19-11 ---------------
--------------------
Boston Coll. 18-10 ---------------
--------------------
Kentucky 28-2
-------------------- UK 110-72
San Jose St. 13-16 ---------------
--------------------
UW-Green Bay 25-3 ---------------
-------------------- VPI 61-48
Virginia Tech 22-5 ---------------
--------------------
Utah 25-6 ---------------
-------------------- Utah 72-43
Canisius 19-10 ---------------
--------------------
Iowa State 23-8 ---------------
-------------------- ISU 74-64
California 17-10 ---------------
--------------------
Wake Forest 23-5 ---------------
--------------------
NE Louisiana 16-13 ---------------
--------------------
Michigan 20-11 ---------------
--------------------
Texas 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
Villanova 25-6 ---------------
--------------------
Portland 19-10 ---------------
--------------------
Louisville 20-11 ---------------
--------------------
Tulsa 22-7 ---------------
--------------------
Purdue 25-5
-------------------- Purdue 73-71
West.Carolina 17-12 ---------------
--------------------
Georgia 19-9 ---------------
-------------------- Georgia 81-74
Clemson 18-10 ---------------
--------------------
Syracuse 24-8 ---------------
-------------------- Syracuse 88-55
Montana State 21-8 ---------------
--------------------
Memphis 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- Drexel 75-63
Drexel 26-3 ---------------
--------------------
Kansas 26-4 ---------------
--------------------
S.C.State 22-7 ---------------
--------------------
Maryland 17-124 ---------------
--------------------
Santa Clara 19-8 ---------------
--------------------
Arizona 24-6 ---------------
--------------------
Valparaiso 21-10 ---------------
--------------------
Iowa 22-8 ---------------
--------------------
Geo.Washington 21-7 ---------------
--------------------
FINAL FOUR
East vs Midwest
Southeast vs West
|
| 14.1725 | absolutely beautiful | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:18 | 9 |
|
Princeton won 43-41. They played a near perfect game considering
they're slow, unathletic and they don't shoot all that well. They
*do* play a textbook perfect zone defense and they don't turn the
ball over and they make some of the sweetest backdoor cuts you'll
ever see. You knew UCLA was in real trouble when the score was some-
thing like 19-18 at halftime. Princeton just kept hanging around
and hanging around and took it in the final minute.
|
| 14.1726 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:18 | 19 |
| > <<< Note 14.1721 by CAM::WAY "There's the devil to pay!" >>>
>
>Princeton 43
>UCLA 41
>
>WHAT a game. You all know I'm not a great fan of basketball, but this game
>kept my attention riveted and I was fighting for the underdog all the way.
>
>Great game by Princeton.
>
>This kind of game, to me, is what makes this tournament special. It was nice
>that it had a great human interest angle too.
Very similar to the Purdue-Western Carolina game that we saw in this area.
Game tied with less than 2 minutes to go. WCU guy misses two free throws
that could have put them ahead, but the Catamounts with two shots in last 5
seconds that could have tied or won the game for them, but they mis-fired.
Great game by the #16 seed.
|
| 14.1728 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:22 | 7 |
|
> And Joe Huber was the one one in the HBAHBA:: pool to pick
> lowly Drexel.
Of course, I also had SJSU and Central Florida and Colgate; if
Western Carolina's three had fallen, I'd have been 0-for-4 in 1/16
matchups... B^)
|
| 14.1729 | | CAM::WAY | There's the devil to pay! | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:33 | 12 |
| Tommy,
I thought it was a very telling stat that they gave when they said that
Princeton led the country in defense, giving up only 51 per game.
Then they said that UCLA was averaging 79 a game....
Very, very enjoyable game for someone who ain't a big hoops fan!
'Saw
|
| 14.1730 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 12:39 | 8 |
| Having watched a good portion of the UK-SJSU game at lunch,
and having seen a little bit of the KU-MSU SEC championship,
it appears that both teams have come up with a strategy that can
beat the wildcats - SJSU just didn't have enough depth to keep
it up.
I doubt if Kentucky beats either UMass of Georgetown in the final
four if one of those matchups were two occur.
|
| 14.1731 | madness | BSS::MENDEZ | | Fri Mar 15 1996 15:52 | 3 |
| any updates???
frank
|
| 14.1732 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | I'm tired of SNOW.... | Fri Mar 15 1996 16:19 | 7 |
|
Georgetown was beating Mississippi Valley St. (Jerry U) 30-12 after
10 minutes of play. Jerry Rice contacted the NCAA to make sure he
wasn't violating any NCAA rules. He then had Nike ship the MVS players
a new pair of sneakers for the tourney.
Ron
|
| 14.1733 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Mar 15 1996 16:21 | 6 |
|
Georgetown 49, Mississippi Valley State 27
Temple 30, Oklahoma 24
Louisville 38, Tulsa 31
|
| 14.1734 | keep it coming.... | BSS::MENDEZ | | Fri Mar 15 1996 16:43 | 3 |
| thanks for the info...
this is absolutely the BEST time of the sports season...
|
| 14.1735 | amazing that this guy won the title last year... | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Mar 15 1996 16:59 | 6 |
| Can anyone explain to me why UCLA would play man-to-man on that last
possession, when they hadn't been successful with it the whole game ?
We all knew Carril was going to go to his bread-and-butter backdoor
offense to win this thing. UCLA had proven all game that they couldn't
defend it man-to-man. Why not go 2-3 zone, eliminate backdoors cuts
and dare 'em to beat them with an outside shot ???
|
| 14.1736 | | CAM::WAY | There's the devil to pay! | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:04 | 10 |
| >Can anyone explain to me why UCLA would play man-to-man on that last
>possession, when they hadn't been successful with it the whole game ?
>We all knew Carril was going to go to his bread-and-butter backdoor
>offense to win this thing. UCLA had proven all game that they couldn't
>defend it man-to-man. Why not go 2-3 zone, eliminate backdoors cuts
>and dare 'em to beat them with an outside shot ???
Maybe the mistakenly thought it was a best of three series?
|
| 14.1737 | | MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::long | Beat em Bucs | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:11 | 5 |
| MSV 56 GEO 93 - Final
billl
|
| 14.1738 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:10 | 5 |
|
Pete Carril > Bob Knight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Thompson > Jim Boeheim > Bubbles the chimp > Dean Smith
|
| 14.1739 | | MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::long | Beat em Bucs | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:22 | 5 |
| OKL 43 TEM 61 - Final
billl
|
| 14.1740 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:42 | 20 |
| >Can anyone explain to me why UCLA would play man-to-man on that last
>possession, when they hadn't been successful with it the whole game ?
Harrick went man after Johnson for Princeton hit a couple of
threes. It wasn't the man defense that killed, it was UCLA
not making the switches and no one on the floor being savvy
enough to recognize what the Tigers were doing. Every time they
initially dumped it down low, they never took the shot but looked
for the cutter. On the shot that won the game, O'Bannon just
completely lost his man. And how about Toby Bailey? In last
years tourney he looked like a budding superstar but last
night he had a pocket full of kryptonite. He launched a slew
of bad shots and missed a chance to tie it at the end. With
Ed O'Bannon, Zidek and Edney all gone UCLA had no floor leader-
ship and it showed last night. That and Carril pulled Harrick's
underwear over his head.
|
| 14.1741 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | SPORTS 1995 NOTY & RED_SOX Most Knowledgeable Noter Award! | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:44 | 3 |
| 14.1742 | Go Bearcats | TNPUBS::ALVEY | My head won't leave my head alone | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:48 | 2 |
| They are likely starting about now.
|
| 14.1743 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | I'm tired of SNOW.... | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:50 | 8 |
|
re .1741,
Paper says that they follow Temple/Oklahoma which started
at 12:25. So they are the second game which should be starting anytime
now.
Ron
|
| 14.1744 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Fri Mar 15 1996 17:58 | 11 |
|
Re .1738
I used to _hate_ watching Cornell's games against Princeton; those
and the hockey games against Harvard were the worst, because you knew
precisely what was going to happen - no matter how good Cornell was,
Princeton (or Harvard at hockey) would take advantage of every single
mistake, and win the game. Even when Cornell made the tournament,
they still couldn't beat Princeton.
Joe
|
| 14.1745 | They're all the same, every one of 'em... ;-) | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:02 | 15 |
|
Pete Carril > Bob Knight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Thompson > Jim Boeheim > Bubbles the chimp > Dean Smith
Some 'cuse yahoo at a sportsbar in Providence last night who claims he
was coached by Bumheim at some basketball camp was defending Boeheim as
"a massively underrated game coach". Said yahoo was also a Yankee
fan who also thought that replacing Mike Stanley with Joe Girardi
"for defense" makes complete sense, and that Don Mattingly is on his
way to the Hall of Fame. I am not making this up.
glenn
|
| 14.1746 | | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:06 | 6 |
|
Louisville beats Tulsa 82-80 in OT.
Kevin
|
| 14.1747 | Ignorance is no excuse | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:11 | 9 |
|
Tulsa had a pretty healthy lead in the final minutes of regulation
and choked. Damn... I picked them because I thought Tubby Smith was
still the coach... and I wouldn't have gone against Georgia either.
;-)
glenn
|
| 14.1748 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | SPORTS 1995 NOTY & RED_SOX Most Knowledgeable Noter Award! | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:14 | 2 |
| 14.1749 | :^O | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:23 | 22 |
| > Some 'cuse yahoo at a sportsbar in Providence last night who claims he
> was coached by Bumheim at some basketball camp was defending Boeheim as
> "a massively underrated game coach".
wrong
>Said yahoo was also a Yankee
> fan who also thought that replacing Mike Stanley with Joe Girardi
> "for defense" makes complete sense,
right
>and that Don Mattingly is on his
> way to the Hall of Fame.
maybe
So he's 1-1-1...not a bad % considering he's a loudmouth at a sports bar.
|
| 14.1750 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:23 | 1 |
| For drinks? After Indiana waxes them...
|
| 14.1751 | RE: .1745 What????? | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:25 | 3 |
|
I don't see how being placed between John Thompson and Bubbles the
chimp can be construed as a ringing endorsement of Boeheim...
|
| 14.1752 | Bummer | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Atlanta, Home of the WS Champs | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:27 | 12 |
| Santa Clara 35
Da Terps 31
Halftime
Terps can't seem to get the ball inside, Booth has 3 fouls.
The ACC 0 - 3? Sheesh
UMDan
|
| 14.1753 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | SPORTS 1995 NOTY & RED_SOX Most Knowledgeable Noter Award! | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:30 | 6 |
| 14.1754 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 18:41 | 12 |
| So far:
Georgetown 93, Mississippi Valley State 56
Temple 61, Oklahoma 43
Louisville 82, Tulsa 80 OT
Cincinnati 37, UNC-Greensboro 29, half time
New Mexico 31, Kansas State 30, half time
Santa CLara 35, Maryland 31, half time
In the Georgetown game, the Hoyas shot 63% to 30% for MVSU.
|
| 14.1755 | | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Atlanta, Home of the WS Champs | Fri Mar 15 1996 19:08 | 7 |
| 65 - 49, Santa Clara with about 10 minutes left. And now they are
switching to a more competitive GAME! (Cinn, UNC Gr., Cinn leads 49 -
41, less than 11 min. left.
Sigh
UMDan
|
| 14.1756 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 19:13 | 9 |
| > Sigh
>
> UMDan
Lots of time they will show the last five to ten seconds of those
games, so you may get to watch a little more of the Terps, if you are
patient.
:^)
|
| 14.1757 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Fri Mar 15 1996 19:19 | 8 |
| > Harrick went man after Johnson for Princeton hit a couple of
> threes. It wasn't the man defense that killed, it was UCLA
> not making the switches and no one on the floor being savvy
> enough to recognize what the Tigers were doing.
I still would have made them beat me with a jumpshot from outside.
When the pressure's on, the farther the ball has to travel, the
better (for the defense).
|
| 14.1758 | I demand 2 outta 3 | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Atlanta, Home of the WS Champs | Fri Mar 15 1996 19:26 | 9 |
| Unless it's a close game (i think its still a double figure game for
SC) I don't know if I wanna watch. But its all a FIX, a MASSIVE
conspiracy. If it was a best of THREE WE all know what the REAL
outcome would be! (Grabs paper bag, breathes, calms down)
Gotta admit that the last minutes of the Princeton - UCLA game is what
the tourney is all about though.
UMDan
|
| 14.1759 | Clemson refs, fixed,..... | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Atlanta, Home of the WS Champs | Fri Mar 15 1996 19:45 | 5 |
| Terps lose (89 - 76, 15 seconds left).
ACC 0 - 3.
UMDan
|
| 14.1760 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 19:49 | 3 |
| Final:
New Mexico 69, Kansas State 48
Santa Clara 91, Maryland 79
|
| 14.1761 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 19:55 | 2 |
| Villanova leads Portland 75-35, 9:56 left.
Cinci beats UNC-Greensboro, 66-61.
|
| 14.1762 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Mar 15 1996 21:14 | 141 |
| Massachusetts 31-1
-------------------- UMass 92-70
Central Fla. 11-18 ---------------
--------------------
Bradley 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- Stanford 66-58
Stanford 19-8 ---------------
--------------------
Marquette 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- Marquette 68-44
Monmouth 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
Penn State 21-6 ---------------
-------------------- Arkansas 86-80
Arkansas 18-12 ---------------
--------------------
Georgetown 26-7 ---------------
-------------------- Georgetown 93-56
Miss. Valley 22-6 ---------------
--------------------
New Mexico 27-4 ---------------
-------------------- UNM 69-48
Kansas State 17-11 ---------------
--------------------
Texas Tech 28-1 ---------------
--------------------
Northern Ill. 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
North Carolina 20-10 ---------------
--------------------
New Orleans 21-8 ---------------
--------------------
Connecticut 30-2
-------------------- UConn 68-59
Colgate 15-14 ---------------
--------------------
Duke 18-12 ---------------
-------------------- EMU 75-60
Eastern Mich. 24-5 ---------------
--------------------
UCLA 23-7 ---------------
-------------------- Princeton 43-41
Princeton 21-6 ---------------
--------------------
Mississippi St. 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- MSU 58-51
Virginia Comm. 24-8 ---------------
--------------------
Cincinnati 25-4 ---------------
-------------------- Cinci 66-61
UNC-Greensboro 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
Temple 19-12 ---------------
-------------------- Temple 61-43
Oklahoma 17-12 ---------------
--------------------
Georgia Tech 22-11 ---------------
--------------------
Austin Peay 19-10 ---------------
--------------------
Indiana 19-11 ---------------
--------------------
Boston Coll. 18-10 ---------------
--------------------
Kentucky 28-2
-------------------- UK 110-72
San Jose St. 13-16 ---------------
--------------------
UW-Green Bay 25-3 ---------------
-------------------- VPI 61-48
Virginia Tech 22-5 ---------------
--------------------
Utah 25-6 ---------------
-------------------- Utah 72-43
Canisius 19-10 ---------------
--------------------
Iowa State 23-8 ---------------
-------------------- ISU 74-64
California 17-10 ---------------
--------------------
Wake Forest 23-5 ---------------
--------------------
NE Louisiana 16-13 ---------------
--------------------
Michigan 20-11 ---------------
--------------------
Texas 20-9 ---------------
--------------------
Villanova 25-6 ---------------
-------------------- Villanova 92-58
Portland 19-10 ---------------
--------------------
Louisville 20-11 ---------------
-------------------- L'ville 82-80 OT
Tulsa 22-7 ---------------
--------------------
Purdue 25-5
-------------------- Purdue 73-71
West.Carolina 17-12 ---------------
--------------------
Georgia 19-9 ---------------
-------------------- Georgia 81-74
Clemson 18-10 ---------------
--------------------
Syracuse 24-8 ---------------
-------------------- Syracuse 88-55
Montana State 21-8 ---------------
--------------------
Memphis 22-7 ---------------
-------------------- Drexel 75-63
Drexel 26-3 ---------------
--------------------
Kansas 26-4 ---------------
-------------------- Kansas
S.C.State 22-7 ---------------
--------------------
Maryland 17-12 ---------------
-------------------- SCU 91-79
Santa Clara 19-8 ---------------
--------------------
Arizona 24-6 ---------------
--------------------
Valparaiso 21-10 ---------------
--------------------
Iowa 22-8 ---------------
--------------------
Geo.Washington 21-7 ---------------
--------------------
FINAL FOUR
East vs Midwest
Southeast vs West
|
| 14.1763 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | SPORTS 1995 NOTY & RED_SOX Most Knowledgeable Noter Award! | Sun Mar 17 1996 22:09 | 12 |
| 14.1764 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Mon Mar 18 1996 11:37 | 3 |
| >For drinks? After Indiana waxes them...
Time for a DIR/TITLE="Crow"... :-)
|
| 14.1765 | Hardly any great games | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Mon Mar 18 1996 14:23 | 7 |
| Hasn't really been a lot of excitement in this tournament, outside of
Princeton. A lotta chalk prevailing (12 of 16 remaining teams were
favored to be there), a lotta bad referreeing, a lotta bad FT shooting
(hello George Washington - nice choke job!), and on the whole not an
exciting tournament thus far.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1766 | shoulda been a technical :=] | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Mon Mar 18 1996 14:27 | 8 |
| What? No excitement?
How 'bout that broken backboard!~
We get to add a_entry to the Excuse Bible: we had 'em where we wannad but
lost all momentum while the repaired a broken backboard.
TTom
|
| 14.1767 | Not as fun | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Mon Mar 18 1996 14:34 | 6 |
|
Speaking of Dean, is it just me or is a lot of the enjoyment of seeing
NC out tempered by Ack's departure?
Kevin
|
| 14.1768 | Where is the Crisper when we need him? | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Mon Mar 18 1996 14:36 | 4 |
| Yeah - it's tough to razz someone when they're not here. But still,
seeing Dean get crushed WAS pretty sweet!
NAZZ
|
| 14.1769 | Two SEC refs doing a Georgia (Tech) IN Orlando? | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Mon Mar 18 1996 14:41 | 21 |
| "Bad Refereeing"!? I suppose you're referring to Mass-Stanford? I'd
say it was simply bad with no final advantage either way but I wouldn't
mention that around Stanford fans who must think they got jobbed.
There was a bad no call in the final seconds with Stanford down four
where they should have had three free throws.
I could only listen to Sarandis on the BC game where it sounded like BC
had their problems. Sarandis pointedly got off the ref's back when
Tech got so hot that it probably didn't matter.
I'd say that referring pretty much decided most of the tournement but
that's always the case. The really good teams have to overcome it and
what comes your way one night (say BC vs Indiana) comes back at you two
nights later. I shouldn't say "decided"; rather, big factor.
One thing to watch for is the numbers. If the advantage is going one
way and enough of a differential is established you'll sometimes see a
late adjustment in the calls so the final stats will show a more equal
balance.
Billte
|
| 14.1770 | Yes, but give ACK credit | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Mon Mar 18 1996 15:12 | 21 |
| > Speaking of Dean, is it just me or is a lot of the enjoyment of seeing
> NC out tempered by Ack's departure?
Not for this basher!~
But I'm here in downtown faux Tar Heel fan city. There's plenty of people
to harass.
I'll give ACK one thing though: he actually followed the team which puts
him up on most of 'em. I was watching the Texas Tech game and nexted to a
table full o' faux fans. They did the usual whining about the calls and
the like. At one point, Shammon Williams made a pretty good shot and me
and a buddy yelled out, "Shammon!~". The whole table full of 'em looked
our way like we were speaking a foreign language. They didn't know who we
were talking about.
Later they were joined by a Villanova fan. At the end of the afternoon I
asked 'em who they liked in the 5 o'clock games so I'd know who not to
bet on.
TTom
|
| 14.1771 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Mar 18 1996 18:30 | 2 |
| Nice doubleheader in tomorrow's NIT games at the Providence Civic Center
with both PC (vs. St. Joe's) and URI (vs. Coll. of Charleston) playing.
|
| 14.1772 | too bad Harrick was too dumb to figger this out | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Mon Mar 18 1996 19:04 | 1 |
| Did anyone happen to notice that Miss St shutdown Princeton with a zone ??
|
| 14.1773 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Mon Mar 18 1996 19:35 | 12 |
|
>> Did anyone happen to notice that Miss St shutdown Princeton
>> with a zone ??
It was not the zone that did Princeton in, it was a lack
of talent. Unlike the UCLA game Princeton couldn't hit the
broad side of a barn against MSU. There had to be some kind
of NCAA record for air balls set by the Tigers in that one.
MSU also wasn't as bothered by Princeton's zone as UCLA was.
The two factors combined spelled doom for Pete Carril and
his boys.
|
| 14.1774 | Response To Poor Outside Shooting | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | | Mon Mar 18 1996 19:42 | 11 |
| re: -1
I agree. The announcers picked up on this. The zone was
Miss. State's direct response to their realization that
Princeton was cold. Zone's clog the inside and dare a team
to shoot from the perimeter. If you have the talent level
of a Princeton, are not shooting well from the outside, and
are facing a zone designed to clog the inside and dare the
perimeter shot, well, kiss it goodbye.
Tony
|
| 14.1775 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Mon Mar 18 1996 20:32 | 4 |
| Well I actually watched the game. There was one simple difference:
Eric Dampier. State simply went to him in the middle every time it
needed a point. Amazing how Princeton actually stayed in it deep into
the second half. Mississippi State didn't take the choke.
|
| 14.1776 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Mar 19 1996 12:02 | 15 |
| > Amazing how Princeton actually stayed in it deep into
> the second half.
You don't explode on a team that holds the ball 30-35 seconds on each
possession. Their hanging around 10-15 points behind wasn't an indication
that they were in that game.
re: Miss St's zone
"clog the middle"
Exactly ! No open lanes for backdoor cuts. The "motion offense" becomes
less/not effective. Princeton's offense was reduced to a perimeter attack.
That's not Carril's strategy.
|
| 14.1777 | Officiating has been consistently bad | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Tue Mar 19 1996 12:38 | 16 |
| Actually, I was talking about the BC game and the New Mexico game. If
the refs allow Gougetown to pummel opponents in the future like they
did to the Lobos, Thompson's thugs could win it all. And on the
opposite end, they took New Mexico's best player, Kenny Thomas, out of
the game with three of the weakest touch fouls I've seen. Compared to
what professional thug Jahidi WHite gets away with, Thomas was in another
state when he got called for those fouls. And BC did not get a call in
the first half vs. Georgia Tech, not that it mattered.
And how about the foul that took ALexander Koul out of the game vs
Iowa. Not only was it a terrible call, it directly affected the
outcome of the game. GW was up double digits when he fouled out, then
they proceded to lose the game. Of course, shooting less and 50% from
the line in the 2nd half didn't help them.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1778 | NCAA Tourney Conference %'s up to Sweet 16 | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Tue Mar 19 1996 12:46 | 37 |
|
------------------------------------------
The conference standings of the 1996 NCAA
Tournament through the second-round:
Conference W-L Pct.
Southeastern (4) 8-0 1.000
Big East (5) 8-2 .800
Southwest (2) 3-1 .750
Western Athletic (2) 3-1 .750
Conference USA (4) 5-2 .714
Atlantic 10 (4) 4-3 .571
Atlantic Coast (6) 5-4 .556
Big Eight (4) 3-3 .500
Pac-10 (4) 3-3 .500
Ivy League (1) 1-1 .500
Mid-American (1) 1-1 .500
North Atlantic (1) 1-1 .500
West Coast (2) 1-2 .333
Big Ten (5) 2-5 .286
Big Sky (1) 0-1 .000
Big South (1) 0-1 .000
Big West (1) 0-1 .000
Colonial (1) 0-1 .000
Metro Atlantic (1) 0-1 .000
Mid-Continent (1) 0-1 .000
Mid-Eastern Athletic (1) 0-1 .000
Northeast (1) 0-1 .000
Ohio Valley (1) 0-1 .000
Patriot League (1) 0-1 .000
Southern (1) 0-1 .000
Southland (1) 0-1 .000
Southwestern Athletic (1) 0-1 .000
Sun Belt (1) 0-1 .000
Trans America (1) 0-1 .000
Midwestern Collegiate (2) 0-2 .000
Missouri Valley (2) 0-2 .000
|
| 14.1779 | Couldn't make the adjustment | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | Soar with the Eagles! | Tue Mar 19 1996 12:51 | 17 |
| >> -< Officiating has been consistently bad >-
>> And BC did not get a call in the first half vs. Georgia Tech,
>> not that it mattered.
This is as close as Nazz has gotten to defending/praising
Boston College ... wow :-)
But seriously, Sean McDonough stated it during the telecast,
in the first five games of that region the referees "let the
boys play" ... then in the BC/GT game they started blowing the
whistles for every little touch ... after all the contact
and physical play of the Big East regular season and the Big East
tournament, the Eagles were unable to adjust to the tighter
called game ... that, and the fact that the Eagles do not defend
the three point shot well, cost Boston College the game ...
Vinny
|
| 14.1780 | | DECC::CARLSON | | Tue Mar 19 1996 13:12 | 22 |
| > And how about the foul that took ALexander Koul out of the game vs
> Iowa. Not only was it a terrible call, it directly affected the
> outcome of the game.
As much as I liked GW (and Koul), foul 5 was legit...his arms were all over
the rebounder. It was a dumb play on Koul's part, especially with four fouls
on him already. Foul 4, however, was a horrible call. Koul had _well_ estab-
lished position, took a charge without extending his arms, and _still_ got
called.
> GW was up double digits when he fouled out, then
actually, I believe it was 7, 8, or 9 at that point.
> they proceded to lose the game. Of course, shooting less and 50% from
> the line in the 2nd half didn't help them.
Real tough loss. The refs didn't help.
|
| 14.1781 | Go Big10!~ Watta Conference!~ | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 19 1996 13:21 | 25 |
| > Big Ten (5) 2-5 .286
Ya gotta love the BigT1E1N!~
And continuing the tradition, Minnesota and Wisconsin both lost lasted
night at home in the NIT, losing big to Tulane and Illinois St,
respectively.
> Atlantic Coast (6) 5-4 .556
This seems about right. No Carolina showed it's not a Sweet 16, maybe not
a Top 25. Wake and Georgia Tech hold the rest of the league up.
I'd be ready to concede excellent losses if'n someone will run that
tourney formula to show that the ACC is still the top dog in the 90s.
This makes at least 2 in the final 16 the whole decade.
And I like that the ACC goes head to head with the upstarts, Conference
USA. Georgia Tech played as good a game as all season. Wake won by coming
from behind without Tim Duncan being 100%. I like their chances.
Unfortunately, I also think Cincinnati is playing real good, too. And
Louisville looks like the Cardinals of old.
TTom
|
| 14.1782 | Trivia: which school has most NCAA appearances w/o winning it all? | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 13:50 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1784 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donnie Baseball Yankee HOFer!!! | Tue Mar 19 1996 13:54 | 3 |
|
Syracuse??
|
| 14.1785 | Purdue? | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 19 1996 13:59 | 0 |
| 14.1786 | Good guesses three, but nope, nope, nope... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 14:05 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1787 | what the S16 have done | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 19 1996 14:16 | 23 |
| I don't know the answer but here's the championships of the current
Sweet 16:
Kentucky 5 1978, 1958, 1951, 1949, 1948
Kansas 3 1994, 1988, 1952
Cincinnati 2 1962, 1961
Louisville 2 1986, 1980
Arkansas 1 1994
Georgetown 1 1984
Utah 1 1944
Arizona 0
Connecticut 0
Georgia 0
Georgia Tech 0
Massachusetts 0
Mississippi St 0
Syracuse 0
Texas Tech 0
Wake Forest 0
|
| 14.1788 | Utah? | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Mar 19 1996 14:41 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1789 | States for 500, Alex | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 19 1996 14:45 | 3 |
| > -< Utah? >-
What was the lasted word in _Raising Arizona_?
|
| 14.1790 | To answer Glenn's question | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Tue Mar 19 1996 15:20 | 2 |
|
Gotta be Princeton.
|
| 14.1791 | Nope | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 15:50 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1792 | Hint: school was not in this year's NCAA field... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 16:24 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1793 | Missouri? | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | | Tue Mar 19 1996 16:43 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1794 | Minnesota? | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | | Tue Mar 19 1996 16:44 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1795 | Penn? | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Tue Mar 19 1996 16:47 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1796 | who it aint | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 19 1996 16:50 | 64 |
| Stanford
Bradley
Massachusetts
C Florida
Penn St
Arkansas
Marquette
Monmouth
Connecticut
Colgate
Duke
E Michigan
Mississippi St
VaCommonwealth
UCLA
Princeton
Kentucky
San Jose St
Va Tech
Wis-Green Bay
California
Iowa St
Utah
Canisius
Syracuse
Montana St
Memphis
Drexel
Purdue
W Carolina
Georgia
Clemson
Georgetown
Miss Valley St
New Mexico
Kansas St
Texas Tech
N Illinois
No Carolina
New Orleans
Oklahoma
Temple
Cincinnati
NC-Greensboro
Indiana
Boston College
Georgia Tech
Austin Peay
Louisville
Tulsa
Villanova
Portland
Wake Forest
NE Louisiana
Michigan
Texas
Maryland
Santa Clara
Kansas
So Carolina St
Iowa
Geo Washington
Arizona
Valparaiso
|
| 14.1797 | okie st | BSS::MENDEZ | | Tue Mar 19 1996 16:51 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1798 | more nots | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:18 | 33 |
| more who it ain't:
Arkansas
CCNY
California
Cincinnati
Duke
Georgetown
Holy Cross
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
La Salle
Louisville
Loyola (Ill.)
Marquette
Michigan
Michigan State
Nevada-Las Vegas
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Ohio State
Oklahoma State
Oregon
San Francisco
Stanford
Texas-El Paso
UCLA
Utah
Villanova
Wisconsin
Wyoming
|
| 14.1799 | Nope, nope, nope, nope, yep (to TTom's "who it ain't" ;-) | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:39 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1800 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | SPORTS 1995 NOTY & RED_SOX Most Knowledgeable Noter Award! | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:39 | 3 |
| 14.1801 | Houston is another guess | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:40 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1802 | Big Least school... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:43 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1803 | I thought St. Johns was guessed | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:44 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1804 | Nope, not them | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:45 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1805 | I meant Conneticut | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:45 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1806 | Nope. Give up? | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:49 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1807 | yep | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:52 | 0 |
| 14.1808 | Answer: (To) hail, hail with old Notre Dame... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | Pride of Steel | Tue Mar 19 1996 17:50 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1809 | | AWECIM::RUSSO | claimin! | Tue Mar 19 1996 19:12 | 3 |
|
What a shame :^)
|
| 14.1810 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Wed Mar 20 1996 12:43 | 8 |
|
Rutgers-Camden, which dropped men's basketball after losing and NCAA
record 108 consecutive games, has reversed its decision due to public
outcry, and will field a team next year.
Its last win was a 74-73 win over Ramapo college, 1/18/92.
- Sean
|
| 14.1811 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Mar 20 1996 12:55 | 1 |
| I hear the A-10 is looking for another team... :-)
|
| 14.1812 | Why add another team? | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Wed Mar 20 1996 13:39 | 7 |
| re -.1
Why are they looking for another A-10 school? Is someone leaving the
A-10?
The Big east proved this year that 13 teams is very unwieldy number for
sensible scheduling.
|
| 14.1813 | | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Mar 20 1996 13:43 | 8 |
| > The Big east proved this year that 13 teams is very unwieldy number for
> sensible scheduling.
The BE didn't need to prove this. Look at the SEC and the new Conference
USA. Next year we'll have the Big-12. And isn't there another mega-conference
coming next year too ? The big power conferences are where the NCAA is
going. If the A-10 has only 9 schools, they very likely are looking to
add more.
|
| 14.1814 | 9 is fine | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Wed Mar 20 1996 13:51 | 12 |
| >going. If the A-10 has only 9 schools, they very likely are looking to
>add more.
There's a lot of talk about the ACC going to 10 teams. Ever body from Va
Tech to Kentucky has been mentioned with the notable exception of So
Carolina who was in the ACC but bolted under the guidance of Frank
McGuire.
But that's all there is to it, talk. The conference is expected to stay
at 9 teams for a while.
TTom
|
| 14.1815 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Wed Mar 20 1996 14:00 | 4 |
| In old Frank's defense he had this slight problem of having the best
team for several years only to be denied the ncaa tournament because he
couldn't win in Greensboro where he felt the court wasn't necessarily a
level playing field.
|
| 14.1816 | RE: .1812, .1813 | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Mar 20 1996 14:00 | 3 |
|
My .1811 was a joke, trying to bust Nazz's cojones. It was in response
to .1810 (Rutgers-Camden looking to reinstate it's basketball program).
|
| 14.1817 | all about the money | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Wed Mar 20 1996 14:41 | 19 |
| > In old Frank's defense he had this slight problem of having the best
> team for several years only to be denied the ncaa tournament because he
> couldn't win in Greensboro where he felt the court wasn't necessarily a
> level playing field.
Firsted of all, Frank left No Carolina and then all this happened. Right
there, they had one strike against him. But the bigger thing, aside from
whining about the refs was that ol' Frank wanted the money that he got at
No Carolina and figgered the bestest way to get that was to jump ship and
do his own thing.
He left No Carolina with the legacy of choking - excepted for that time
that Phog Allen put the four-corners on Wilt ;=] - and moved that down
the road to Columbia.
They had some outstanding teams. Current Georgia Tech coach, Bobby
Cremins played for him.
TTom
|
| 14.1818 | | NIOSS1::REEVE | | Wed Mar 20 1996 15:49 | 4 |
| I believe Cremins team at SC was something like 25-0 and #1, then lost
the ACC championship game and didn't get to go to the NCAA tournament.
Chris
|
| 14.1819 | Actually, they need one more team in the BE | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Well, 37-1 ain't so bad! | Wed Mar 20 1996 16:50 | 3 |
| Re. 1811 - I got it!
NAZZ
|
| 14.1820 | 13 is not just an unlucky number | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Wed Mar 20 1996 16:50 | 11 |
| re .1814
The A-10 currently has 12 schools not nine. I don't disagree that there
is a trend towards mega-conferences. ( As a long time Longhorn fan I am
very excited about the formation of the Big 12 ). Nonetheless, I think
the current makeup of the Big East with 13 teams is wacky and leads to
problems with both the regular season scheduling and the post-season
conference tournament format.
The only reason for going to 13 teams was the eventual hope of getting
Notre Dame in the Big East for football.
|
| 14.1821 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Wed Mar 20 1996 16:53 | 6 |
| > Re. 1811 - I got it!
>
> NAZZ
Yes, but apparently others weren't - people were actually discussing the
"why"s of it. I wouldn't be caught dead starting a serious discussion... :-)
|
| 14.1822 | ar ar | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Wed Mar 20 1996 16:57 | 5 |
|
> I wouldn't be caught dead starting a serious discussion... :-)
... at least about the A10
|
| 14.1823 | didn't say no, didn't say yes | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Mar 20 1996 16:58 | 5 |
| > The only reason for going to 13 teams was the eventual hope of getting
> Notre Dame in the Big East for football.
Which isn't out of the realm of possibility. In a recent interview
Tranghese said it is now and always will be Notre Dame's decision.
|
| 14.1824 | they like money | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Wed Mar 20 1996 17:09 | 7 |
| This we know:
Notre Dame football joining the BigEast would definitely be a stop down.
I mean, all they'd be losing would be the money, the prestige and the
money.
TTom
|
| 14.1825 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | | Fri Mar 22 1996 11:46 | 11 |
| one critical play last night in the Georgetown game. TT forces a
timeout in the backcourt with about 1/2 of the 10 seconds gone. GT
then inbounds backwards and Page calls another timeout under the
basket.
Now instead of trying to get the 10 seconds call, down 5, tt
immediately fouls, ballgame to GT.
Incredibly stupid strategy by TT. Funny the whole ballgame was coming
down to this 10 second call and the two mike mouths are asunaware as
the tt coach.
|
| 14.1826 | | HELIX::THISSELL | George Thissell | Fri Mar 22 1996 13:22 | 2 |
| in the pro's you only get 10 seconds total to get the ball over,
in college the 10 seconds is reset after dead-balls.
|
| 14.1827 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | | Fri Mar 22 1996 14:34 | 3 |
| Are you saying that you can reset on a timeout. In other words, use 9
seconds call a timeout, another 9 seconds another timeout and then 10
seconds. The clock was stopped on timeouts, not deadballs.
|
| 14.1828 | the rules committee should look at that one... | HELIX::THISSELL | George Thissell | Fri Mar 22 1996 14:45 | 3 |
| Yes, any stoppage in play.
Its one of those things that penalizes good defense.
|
| 14.1829 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | | Fri Mar 22 1996 14:51 | 7 |
| Pardon me while I go wash the egg off. This sounds like one of those
rules that the college coaches hang on to and illustrates why the ncaa
should keep them out of the process.
You may recall the Celtics vs Charlotte being eliminated when Rick Fox
forgot that precious seconds had expired prior to his earlier timeout
in the backcourt and he got called for the 10 seconds in 93 playoffs.
|
| 14.1830 | Commercial Overload | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Fri Mar 22 1996 16:06 | 8 |
| CBS turned last nights games into an ordeal. The last 2:30 minutes of
the Georgetown-Texas Tech game took around 25:00 minutes to play. CBS
has no shame when it comes to running six commercials in a row after a
few seconds of action which had just been preceded by another six
commercials.
I wish there was some way the Broadcasting rights could be taken from
them and given to ESPN
|
| 14.1831 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | The engineer formerly known as Roland | Fri Mar 22 1996 16:12 | 7 |
| Not to defend CBS, but I think most of the commercials were run during
the many timeouts called in that span.
> I wish there was some way the Broadcasting rights could be taken from
> them and given to ESPN
I think you could apply this to most anything CBS does...
|
| 14.1832 | | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Fri Mar 22 1996 18:22 | 10 |
| re -.1
Of course the commercials were made during timeouts. The point is the
timeouts are extended so that CBS can run a full complement of
commericials with each timeout no matter how many timeouts are called
in a very short period of game time. These extended breaks kill a lot
of the excitement and momentum in a game.
On CBS they never hold the camera on the game during a timeout except
for "20 second" timeouts.
|
| 14.1833 | CBS Bites the Big One ! | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Tue Mar 26 1996 16:36 | 9 |
| > On CBS they never hold the camera on the game during a timeout except
> for "20 second" timeouts.
But they even cut to a commercial during a 20-second TO in the closing
seconds of the Kansas-SU game. You could see Williams put his hands
on his shoulders, yet CBS went to their commercial. Luckily, they
cut it off and returned in time to rejoin the action.
I'm also one who hopes ESPN (with 2 outlets) gets the tournament back.
|
| 14.1834 | NCAA Final 50 years ago today - courtesy of Joe Gergen, THE FINAL FOUR | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Wed Mar 27 1996 18:02 | 20 |
| The first post-war tournament had a lot of drama and famous names
involved, and famous firsts. One of them was the first dunk by big Bob
Kurland, 7 feet tall and referred to by Phog Allen as a glandular
freak. He played at Stillwater under Hank Iba when they were known as
Oklahoma A&M. Kurland and the aggies had won the 1945 championship.
To get there they had to be selected for the eight team tournament
which included Harvard. Strange? Maybe but Catholic U had qualified
the previous year. Kansas under (a) Phog played off but Kurland had 28
to lead A&M and two more wins had the Aggies back in NewYork for the
final. Also playing alongside Kurland was World War II purple heart
Sam Aubrey. Kurland,btw, when he wasn't college basketball's number 1
star was janitor at the fieldhouse.
North Carolina under Navy Lieutenant Ben Carnevale and its star Bones
McKinney and one John Dillon who apparently was no longer seeing the
lady in red at that StLouis movie theatre. Kurland without his
favorite tactic of offensive goaltending (outlawed the previous year)
dispatched Carolina 43-40. Ohio State in the first NCAA consolation
game beat California before 18,479 at the old Madison Sq. Garden.
|
| 14.1835 | have to ask... | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Mar 27 1996 18:46 | 1 |
| Does anyone have the Syracuse-Georgia game on tape ?
|
| 14.1836 | | CAM::WAY | There's the devil to pay! | Mon Apr 01 1996 17:51 | 14 |
| FWIW,
I heard that tomorrow evening on CBS they are supposed to be airing a made for
TV movie about Jim Valvano.
I heard an interview with his brother last night on WFAN and he said it was a
good representation -- some of the technical details were telescoped or a
little off (the actor playing Jim V. was left-handed, Jim V. was a righty)
etc. but that given the 93 minutes of film they were allowed for the 2 hour
time slot, he felt it came out really well.
Thought you might like to know,
'Saw
|
| 14.1837 | College Hoop Withdrawal is a Bitch | USCTR1::GARBARINO | | Wed Apr 03 1996 18:56 | 12 |
| The made-for-TV Great Eight should be good next year:
Kentucky, UMass, Syracuse, Miss St, Cin, Kansas, Georgetown, Wake
Quality of matchups will depend on who takes off early for the NBA. But if
Camby, Vaughn, Iverson and Duncan all leave, UMass, Syr and Wake will likely
be the weakest. Is Dampier a senior ?
UMass-Miss St ? Kentucky-Georgetown ? Cincinnati-Kansas ? SU-Wake ?
You have to think that SU won't play G'town (BE), Kentucky or Miss St (Final
Four), or Kansas (Reg Final). BE-ACC will play well for TV. Kentucky-Gtown
will be '96-97s version of Ken-UMass.
|
| 14.1838 | final poll | XTATIC::CHILDS | | Wed Apr 03 1996 19:39 | 177 |
|
Here's the final poll according to the USA/CNN coaches poll. While I do believe
that Umass is a better team than Syracuse it doesn't make sense to me that SU
doesn't leapfrog them too. A few things I can't understand are how Purdue can be
rated so high, how Memphis can be dropped out but not North Carolina or even
worst UCLA (who also failed to win a game) when they obviously play in a tougher
conference, how UCAN't remained in the top 10, or why Eastern Michigan didn't
make the top 25 is beyond me? Also given the lovefeast associated with them it's
surprising that Duke didn't make it
1. Kentucky (34-2)
Points: 800 (32 first-place votes). Last poll: 2. Looking ahead:
Walter McCarty, Tony Delk and Mark Pope graduate, but talent abounds.
Derek Anderson, Antoine Walker, Anthony Epps and super freshmen
Wayne Turner and Ron Mercer should get more playing time.
2. Massachusetts (35-2)
Points: 760. Last poll: 1. Looking ahead: If consensus player
of year Marcus Camby leaves, UMass will have a big hole in the
middle. Senior forwards Dana Dingle and Donta Bright must be replaced,
but Tyrone Weeks and Inus Norville can step in. Guards Edgar Padilla
and Carmelo Travieso will return for their senior seasons.
3. Syracuse (29-9)
Points: 721. Last poll: 14. Looking ahead: The Orangemen will
miss the leadership of forward John Wallace and point guard Lazarus
Sims. Center Otis Hill will be the man next season, but forward
Todd Burgan and guard Jason Cipolla will need to upgrade offensive
production.
4. Mississippi State (26-8)
Points: 658. Last poll: 20. Looking ahead: Turning pro or not
is the question Erick Dampier and Dontae Jones are wrestling with.
The Bulldogs lose senior guard Darryl Wilson and 6-10 forward
Russell Walters. Point guard Marcus Bullard is back.
5. Kansas (29-5)
Points: 639. Last poll: 8. Looking ahead: After falling one game
short of the Final Four, the Jayhawks have key components back,
unless point guard Jacque Vaughn opts for the NBA. Guard Jerod
Haase, center Scot Pollard and forwards Raef LaFrentz and Paul
Pierce return.
6. Cincinnati (28-5)
Points: 610. Last poll: 6. Looking ahead: Conference USA player
of year Danny Fortson heads a good nucleus, including guard Damon
Flint and Darnell Burton, one of basketball's best sixth men.
Must replace center Art Long and guard Keith LeGree.
7. Georgetown (29-8)
Points: 606. Last poll: 5. Looking ahead: A little retooling could
turn into a major job if guard Allen Iverson should leave for
the NBA. Forward Boubacar Aw and center Jahidi White will be juniors
and guard Victor Page a sophomore.
8. Connecticut (32-3)
Points: 601. Last poll: 3. Looking ahead: Big question is whether
Big East player of year Ray Allen returns for his senior season
or opts for NBA. Huskies will miss point guard Doron Sheffer and
center Travis Knight, but forward Kirk King is back and speedy
reserve Ricky Moore will fill Sheffer's shoes.
9. Wake Forest (26-6)
Points: 563. Last poll: 9. Looking ahead: If junior center Tim
Duncan turns down lure of the NBA, the Demon Deacons should be
in good shape. Other key players such as Ricky Peral, Tony Rutland,
Jerry Braswell and Steven Goolsby are expected back.
10. Texas Tech (30-2)
Points: 478. Last poll: 7. Looking ahead: High-scoring forward
Jason Sasser, point guard Jason Martin and backboard-destroying
Darvin Ham will be missed. Center Tony Battie returns and is getting
better. Gionet Cooper should move into a starting forward spot
and sharpshooting sixth man Cory Carr is one to watch.
11. Arizona (26-6)
Points: 475. Last poll: 11. Looking ahead: The Wildcats will miss
the leadership of forwards Joe McLean and Corey Williams, center
Ben Davis and guard Reggie Geary. Guard Miles Simon is the only
starter back.
12. Utah (27-7)
Points: 415. Last poll: 10. Looking ahead: If junior forward Keith
Van Horn should leave early, the Utes will have to replace two
stars because guard Brandon Jessie is a senior. The other starters
center Michael Doleac and guards Ben Caton and Andre Miller return.
13. Georgia Tech (24-12)
Points: 391. Last poll: 15. Looking ahead: Freshman Stephon Marbury's
announcement about opting for the NBA comes Wednesday. He was
Atlantic Coast Conference freshman of year and first-team all-ACC.
Regardless, Yellow Jackets return forward Matt Harpring and starters
Michael Maddox and Eddie Elisma.
14. Louisville (22-12)
Points: 323. Last poll: 23. Looking ahead: The Cardinals lose
guard Tick Rogers and shooter Brian Kiser, but little else. Cornerstones
Samaki Walker and DeJuan Wheat are among the returnees.
15. Purdue (26-6)
Points: 311. Last poll: 4. Looking ahead: Big losses here. The
Boilermakers' senior class, which won three Big Ten titles, is
departing. Center Brad Miller and guard Chad Austin will be juniors
and will have to carry more of the scoring load.
16. Georgia (21-10)
Points: 299. Last poll: Not ranked. Looking ahead: Coach Tubby
Smith brought a senior-laden team to the Sweet 16. Smith's son,
guard G.G. Smith, returns.
17. Villanova (26-7)
Points: 269. Last poll: 12. Looking ahead: Guard Kerry Kittles
and sharpshooting forward Eric Eberz are graduating. Forward Chuck
Kornegay, center Jason Lawson and guards Alvin Williams and John
Celestand return.
18. Arkansas (20-13)
Points: 172. Last poll: Not ranked. Looking ahead: Four freshmen
started on a team that reached the Sweet 16. Guards Pat Bradley,
Kareem Reid and Marlon Towns and forward Derek Hood got a baptism
of fire and responded like seasoned vets in March.
19. UCLA (23-8)
Points: 155. Last poll: 13. Looking ahead: All five starters are
back. Forward Charles O'Bannon and guards Toby Bailey and Cameron
Dollar should emerge as leaders. Center Jelani McCoy is becoming
a force.
20. Iowa State (24-9)
Points: 149. Last poll: 16. Looking ahead: Big Eight tournament
champ moves to Big 12. Cyclones return everybody, including scoring
guard Dedric Willoughby and 6-11 center Kelvin Cato.
21. Virginia Tech (23-6)
Points: 127. Last poll: 21. Looking ahead: If possible, the Hokies
will rely even more on star forward Ace Custis next season.
22. Iowa (23-9)
Points: 120. Last poll: 19. Looking ahead: Still plenty of talent
and experience. Guard Chris Kingsbury, forward Jess Settles and
standout point guard Andre Woolridge return for another run at
a Big Ten title.
23. Marquette (23-8)
Points: 107. Last poll: 22. Looking ahead: Golden Eagles shouldn't
have too big a dropoff. Guard Anthony Pieper and Aaron Hutchins
and forward Chris Crawford are back.
24. North Carolina (21-11)
Points: 102. Last poll: 24. Looking ahead: Young Tar Heels could
grow up in a hurry. Point guard Jeff McInnis and center Serge
Zwikker will be seniors. Guard Vince Carter and forward Antawn
Jamison will be sophomores, as well as forward Ademola Okulaja.
25. New Mexico (28-5)
Points: 93. Last poll: Not ranked. Looking ahead: Center Kenny
Thomas will be a sophomore and shooting guard Charles Smith a
senior. Slick point guard David Gibson could be one of the very
best by next winter.
DROPPED OUT: No. 17 Memphis (22-8), No. 18 Penn State (21-7),
No. 25 Stanford (20-9).
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Penn State 71, Stanford 70, Memphis
68, Eastern Michigan 59, Texas 52, Nebraska 25, Boston College
24, Temple 12, George Washington 10, St. Joseph's (Pa.) 10, Arkansas-Little
Rock 9, New Orleans 8, Santa Clara 8, Drexel 6, Tulane 6, Duke
4, Michigan 4, Charleston 3, Princeton 3, Davidson 2, Wisconsin-Green
Bay 2.
|
| 14.1839 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Wed Apr 03 1996 20:57 | 4 |
|
Aren't SU/Kentucky invited to the Alaska tourney, too?
- Sean
|
| 14.1840 | been there, done that | MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::long | Beat em Bucs | Wed Apr 03 1996 21:22 | 5 |
| That would be the Great Alaskan Shootout.
billl
|
| 14.1841 | one down how many more will declare? | XTATIC::CHILDS | | Thu Apr 04 1996 14:34 | 19 |
|
Marbury leaves no doubts he's going pro
NEW YORK - Stephon Marbury had said all along he would leave Georgia
Tech if he felt he was ready for the NBA. On Wednesday, he made his
intention known in front of a microphone in his hometown of Brooklyn,
declaring fitness for the draft after one year of school. Marbury, 19,
left no doubts that he's gone for good, cutting off his last chance to
return to college by announcing he had signed with an agent, Eric
Fleischer. Marbury, a 6-foot-2 point guard, led Georgia Tech to its
first regular-season Atlantic Coast Conference title and was named
conference rookie of the year.
Wonder if Vitale is crying today?
mike
|
| 14.1842 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | It's Baseball And You're An American | Thu Apr 04 1996 14:40 | 2 |
|
His skills are there - don't know if his body is ready for the pounding yet...
|
| 14.1843 | Anyone seen Big Daddy Wilkerson lately? | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Thu Apr 04 1996 15:17 | 21 |
|
Before the Georgia Tech - BC game there was a piece on
Stephon's older brothers who had all played division 1
basketball. The general tone was that they advise Stephon
on his game and on life. What struck me then is that none
of them seemed to have gotten a degree. They all played
college ball and none of them earned a sheepskin. Now ,
here's Stephon coming out of college after one year and
in all likelihood he'll never get a degree either. If his
brothers really held any sway they'd have advised him to
stay in college and get his degree. The kid is good. But
he's not ready for the NBA. They say rookies his a wall
along about January. Stephon will probably hit his around
November. A steady diet of real NBA quality point guards
will do for his confidence what the New York hype machine
did to Felipe Lopez. Stephon may get paid in the short run
but over the long haul he'd be a better player and probably
a better person if he'd stayed in college.
|
| 14.1844 | Allen is gone is the word I have | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Thu Apr 04 1996 15:23 | 8 |
|
If I were in his position I would have declared but I also
would have hedged a bit and not signed with an agent leaving
my options open. I don't see why more players don't declare
and see where and if they are drafted...Make the decision
after the draft......
Jimbo
|
| 14.1845 | | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Apr 04 1996 15:43 | 10 |
| > If I were in his position I would have declared but I also
> would have hedged a bit and not signed with an agent leaving
> my options open. I don't see why more players don't declare
> and see where and if they are drafted...Make the decision
> after the draft......
If you sign with an agent, the NBA clubs know you are coming - there's
no risk of you returning for another season, and of them losing a first
round pick. That may move you up in the draft but a couple (or more)
notches, and equates to more money.
|
| 14.1846 | | MYLIFE::mccarthy | Mike McCarthy SHR3-1/P32 237-2468 | Thu Apr 04 1996 16:11 | 6 |
| I think that if you stay in until the draft, agent or not,
the team that drafts you still keeps your rights. You can
go back to school, but you don't go back in the pool the
next year.
Mike
|
| 14.1847 | | NIOSS1::REEVE | | Fri Apr 05 1996 16:08 | 3 |
| Also, if you sign with an agent, he sticks a big wad of cash in your
hand right now as an advance on a future contract. How many 19 year old
kids would turn down, say $100K to wait and see what happens?
|
| 14.1848 | some doings | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Fri Apr 05 1996 16:41 | 25 |
| some more updates, sorta
Like someone said it looks like Fraschilla from Manhatten will land at
St. John's, supposedly after John Calipari of Massachusetts and Rick
Majerus of Utah turned 'em down. Pat Kennedy of Florida St had also
interviewed.
Kevin Sampson, who is the current head coach at Oklahoma, is staying
there and not pursuing the opening at NC State. No clear indication of
who is coming or going but up in Raleigh they're talking about the head
buy at Miami-Ohio. The consensus is that anyone would be better'n ol' Les
who got kicked upstairs to assistant A.D.
Locally, Jeff Mullins resigned from UNC-Charlotte which promoted
assistant coach and former 49er Melvin Watkins. Watkins had been groomed
by Mullins, who recommended him as a replacement.
Marcus Camby adds the Wooden to his trophy case. Other's making the
Wooden Top 10: Wake Forest's Tim Duncan, Connecticut's Ray Allen,
Kentucky guard Tony Delk, Cincinnati forward Danny Fortson, Georgetown
guard Allen Iverson, Villanova guard Kerry Kittles, Georgia Tech guard
Stephon Marbury, Kansas guard Jacque Vaughn and Utah forward Keith Van
Horn.
TTom
|
| 14.1849 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | It's Baseball And You're An American | Fri Apr 05 1996 18:07 | 1 |
| Kerry Kittles a finalist, John Wallace not == JOKE
|
| 14.1850 | possible draft | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Fri Apr 05 1996 18:19 | 16 |
| In a peice about how ever one's leaving early, here's a_opinion from USA
Today of the order of the NBA draft with a lot of assumptions.
1. Tim Duncan, Wake Forest
2. Allen Iverson, Georgetown
3. Marcus Camby, UMass
4. Stephon Marbury, Georgia Tech
5. Ray Allen, Connecticut
6. Lorenzen Wright, Memphis
7. John Wallace, Syracuse
8. Kerry Kittles, Villanova
Kobe Bryant who may come outta high school is projected in the 10-15
range. If'n Iverson stays, Marbury could move up to #2.
TTom
|
| 14.1851 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | | Fri Apr 05 1996 18:58 | 8 |
|
Meanwhile the Celtics keep screwing things up by beating teams
like Orlando in Orlando. They would currently draft #8, unless they
get lucky in the lottery. If the projected underclassmen declare
the C's will be on the tail end of top players. If one or two don't
declare then the #8 spot will be a crap shoot.
Ron
|
| 14.1852 | the lott'rey race | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Fri Apr 05 1996 19:30 | 29 |
| VANCOUVER 12 60 0.167 0.0
PHILADELPHIA 14 59 0.192 1.5
TORONTO 19 54 0.260 6.5
DALLAS 22 51 0.301 9.5
MILWAUKEE 22 50 0.306 10.0
MINNESOTA 24 49 0.329 11.5
LA CLIPPERS 27 47 0.365 14.0
BOSTON 29 45 0.392 16.0
NEW JERSEY 29 43 0.403 17.0
DENVER 31 42 0.425 18.5
GOLDEN STATE 32 42 0.432 19.0
SACRAMENTO 33 39 0.458 21.0
WASHINGTON 34 39 0.466 21.5
MIAMI 37 36 0.507 24.5
CHARLOTTE 37 36 0.507 24.5
PORTLAND 37 35 0.514 25.0
PHOENIX 38 35 0.521 25.5
DETROIT 40 32 0.556 28.0
ATLANTA 41 32 0.562 28.5
CLEVELAND 43 31 0.431 30.0
NEW YORK 42 30 0.391 30.0
HOUSTON 43 30 0.385 30.5
INDIANA 45 29 0.354 32.0
LA LAKERS 45 27 0.328 33.0
UTAH 50 23 0.328 37.5
SAN ANTONIO 54 19 0.323 41.5
ORLANDO 55 19 0.250 42.0
SEATTLE 58 15 0.200 45.5
CHICAGO 64 8 0.177 52.0
|
| 14.1853 | Canada must wait | ILBBAK::SILVESTRI | Soar with the Eagles! | Mon Apr 08 1996 14:42 | 18 |
| >> VANCOUVER 12 60 0.167 0.0
>> PHILADELPHIA 14 59 0.192 1.5
>> TORONTO 19 54 0.260 6.5
>> DALLAS 22 51 0.301 9.5
>> MILWAUKEE 22 50 0.306 10.0
>> MINNESOTA 24 49 0.329 11.5
>> LA CLIPPERS 27 47 0.365 14.0
>> BOSTON 29 45 0.392 16.0
FYI - Just remember that the two Canadian expansion franchises
are NOT allowed to draft in the top positions this year ...
The best they can pick is third/fourth or fourth/fifth ... I
forget which ... so Philly is looking strong for that first
overall pick ... lets see, Stackhouse, Coleman and Duncan,
not a bad way to start your rebuilding process ...
Vinny
|
| 14.1854 | Bad chemistry or coaching? | TNPUBS::ALVEY | my head won't leave my head alone | Mon Apr 08 1996 15:21 | 4 |
| What the hail are the Mavericks doing in that list
with the talent they've got? You'd think Duncan
would make them a contender.
|
| 14.1855 | Bucks | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | | Mon Apr 08 1996 15:50 | 12 |
| And how about the Bucks with Baker/Robinson, though admittedly
little else. They were looking to hover at ~500 this year
and they have been awful. I wonder if Dunleavy's days are
numbered.
The Bucks get almost no scoring outside of the above two
players.
So the Bucks have a solid shot at a #2 pick in the draft.
By the way, I'm surprised Marbury is rated as high as he is
from the standpoint of his youth.
|
| 14.1856 | \ | SNAX::ERICKSON | | Mon Apr 08 1996 16:13 | 5 |
|
Who will the Mavericks select with the #2 pick? A Marcus Camby or
John Wallace would look nice next to the 3 J's.
Ron
|
| 14.1858 | Ray Allen | LUDWIG::BARBIERI | | Mon Apr 22 1996 17:50 | 1 |
| Ray Allen turning pro...
|
| 14.1859 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | It's Baseball And You're An American | Mon Apr 22 1996 17:52 | 3 |
| Maybe that'll push John Wallace down towards the Celtics' pick...
Wishful thinking.
|
| 14.1860 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Mon Apr 22 1996 18:15 | 3 |
| Well they're number nine aren't they. More than wishful thinking
except getting lucky with the lottery balls. Now Allen might be
available at nine.
|
| 14.1861 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove | Mon Apr 22 1996 18:15 | 7 |
|
Ray Allen won't push Wallace down. Wallace should go
before Allen. And who the hell told Samaki Walker that
he was ready for the NBA? As poorly as he played against
top notch college talent when he came back you'd think he'd
realize that he needs much more work but there he goes and
declares himself eligible.
|
| 14.1862 | Still three weeks before the deadline | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks UMass for a great season! | Mon Apr 22 1996 18:18 | 9 |
| Ray Allen press conference is today at 3:00.
The number of underclassmen declaring for the draft is making this
draft move from horrible to average. Now, if Camby and Duncan come
out, it will be a good draft.
BTW, Iverson never officially announced he was coming out, did he?
NAZZ
|
| 14.1863 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | It's Baseball And You're An American | Mon Apr 22 1996 18:55 | 12 |
| > Ray Allen won't push Wallace down. Wallace should go
> before Allen.
I agree that Allen *shouldn't* push Wallace down. But the guys who make
these picks have ML Carr amongst their fraternity. They obviously don't have
to pass the basketball equivalent of a MENSA exam.
I also said "wishful thinking". I'd love to see the Celts get Wallace, play
he and Eric Williams together in the frontcourt, trade Dino (who I believe is
at least *somewhat* marketable) for a solid, good-sized guard, and go from
there. Luc Longley is living proof that you no longer need an average or
above average center to succeed in today's NBA.
|
| 14.1864 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | It's Baseball And You're An American | Mon Apr 22 1996 18:56 | 1 |
| Wait, let me restate that: Luc Longley is proof, not "living proof"...
|
| 14.1865 | Longley is a legitimate pro | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | Thanks UMass for a great season! | Tue Apr 23 1996 14:10 | 5 |
| Longley is not bad. He's surely not Shaq or Hakeem, but he is a
decent center with a nice touch. I'd trade Montross for him in a
heartbeat.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1866 | Longley>Wennington | XTATIC::CHILDS | | Tue Apr 23 1996 19:18 | 1 |
| I'd take Wennington for Montross never mind Longley...
|
| 14.1867 | three manatees in a pond | AKOCOA::BREEN | You never can tell | Tue Apr 23 1996 20:21 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1868 | we'll get Rollie to kick around some more | HBAHBA::HAAS | floor,chair,couch,bed | Tue Apr 30 1996 15:17 | 7 |
| And meanwhile it looks like Rollie Massimimo is rejoining the ranks of
college hoops coaches.
Supposedly, Rollie will be the new head man at Cleveland State, at least
according to the Plain Dealer.
TTom
|
| 14.1869 | I wish it weren't so | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Fri May 03 1996 13:21 | 14 |
| Rollie was my high school basketball coach. He was a really good coach
in every respect. For instance, he worked extremely hard to get every
one of his players into some college no matter how limited their
academic or basketball skills were.
Because I remember him so fondly I have found the last five years or so
of his career to be very sad. The move to UNLV was really out of
character for him and his acceptance of the coaching job at Cleveland
State reminds me of an old boxer who doesn't know when to quit.
It is very sad to me.
Lyndon
|
| 14.1870 | Thought I Heard This... | STRATA::BARBIERI | | Fri May 03 1996 13:34 | 1 |
| Iverson is going pro, isn't he?
|
| 14.1871 | | XTATIC::CHILDS | | Fri May 03 1996 13:49 | 8 |
| Yes he is. First player to ever leave Georgetown early for the pros unless
otherwise booted (ie: Michael "animal" Grahman). According to the paper he
left for the money to support his 1 year old daughter and his younger sister
has a life treathing disease, so the money will allow him to upgrade her
treatment from a GP to a specialist, from Uncle Hiriam's corner drugstore
to John Hopkins etc.....
mike
|
| 14.1872 | | POWDML::GARBARINO | | Mon May 06 1996 17:20 | 4 |
| >Yes he is. First player to ever leave Georgetown early for the pros
Left with the everlasting question of "what could he have done ?", eh Mike ?
He clearly hadn't matured to a dominating college player.
|
| 14.1873 | | XTATIC::CHILDS | | Mon May 06 1996 18:08 | 4 |
|
Absolutely correctamundo Joe. If White develops into a dominate center and
Allan had harnessed his emense talents they could have been the favorites
for the NCAA title next year........
|
| 14.1874 | | AKOCOA::BREEN | Better days are coming bye and bye. BS | Mon May 06 1996 18:19 | 2 |
| So all the better since the disappointment will be less acute at the
usual denouement.
|
| 14.1875 | pointers grateful accepted | HBAHBA::HAAS | more madness, less horror | Tue Jun 25 1996 14:59 | 4 |
| For all y'all college hoops fans, there's a listing of all Div I signings
fro the ealry and late signing periods.
I'm trying to find a_electronic version.
|
| 14.1876 | Harrick out at UCLA and BC's Abrams knocked out | HBAHBA::HAAS | but the reply came from Anchorage | Wed Nov 06 1996 15:11 | 15 |
| 14.1877 | Preseason Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | but the reply came from Anchorage | Fri Nov 08 1996 13:41 | 46 |
| 14.1878 | Death and taxes | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Just cover, baby! | Tue Dec 03 1996 14:48 | 6 |
| 14.1879 | give 'em a chance | HBAHBA::HAAS | Thank ya just a whole lot. | Tue Dec 03 1996 14:54 | 6 |
| 14.1880 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | | Tue Dec 03 1996 15:41 | 7 |
| 14.1881 | Hoya's are severely underrated number 33?? Please!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Wed Dec 04 1996 14:43 | 9 |
| 14.1882 | Chappys Back | WMOIS::HAKALA_H | | Wed Dec 04 1996 14:58 | 4 |
| 14.1883 | close, but ... | HBAHBA::HAAS | Thank ya just a whole lot. | Wed Dec 04 1996 15:10 | 1 |
| 14.1884 | | CLUSTA::MAIEWSKI | Braves, 1914 1957 1995 WS Champs | Wed Dec 04 1996 18:57 | 9 |
| 14.1885 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Thu Dec 05 1996 12:32 | 13 |
| 14.1886 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Just cover, baby! | Thu Dec 05 1996 13:35 | 9 |
| 14.1887 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | Sans Doute | Thu Dec 05 1996 13:41 | 7 |
| 14.1888 | "an excellant loss" | MKOTS3::taydhcp-23-144-12.tay.dec.com::Long | taxation without representation | Thu Dec 05 1996 14:14 | 7 |
| 14.1889 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Just cover, baby! | Thu Dec 05 1996 14:46 | 13 |
| 14.1890 | call us in March | HBAHBA::HAAS | Thank ya just a whole lot. | Thu Dec 05 1996 14:52 | 8 |
| 14.1891 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Thu Dec 05 1996 14:51 | 10 |
| 14.1892 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Just cover, baby! | Thu Dec 05 1996 15:13 | 5 |
| 14.1893 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Thu Dec 05 1996 15:34 | 9 |
| 14.1894 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Just cover, baby! | Thu Dec 05 1996 15:46 | 12 |
| 14.1895 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | | Fri Dec 06 1996 12:14 | 9 |
| 14.1896 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | Sans Doute | Fri Dec 06 1996 16:54 | 4 |
| 14.1897 | some streak there | HBAHBA::HAAS | Expansion Boy | Wed Jan 08 1997 12:27 | 6 |
| 14.1898 | What Kind of Coach is Penders? | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Tue Feb 04 1997 14:31 | 6 |
| Does Tom Penders recruit players who are uncoachable or is Tom Penders
a lousy "game coach"?
Year after year his Texas teams are loaded with good athletes but end
up underachieving because of the undisciplined helter skelter style of
play.
|
| 14.1899 | a real scandal | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Tue Feb 04 1997 17:44 | 14 |
| Wail, without any doubt, I think we'll all agree that the following story
shows all of the current evils of the amateur type student-athlete
system.
Jackson State guard, Chuck Nwagwu, has been forced by the coach to quit
the basketball team.
Emeka Nwagwu, Chuck's father and coach, made the decision after Chuck got
hisself a couple of Cs on his report card. OK enough for the NCAA but not
for dad.
Someone oughta investigate this.
TTom
|
| 14.1900 | the kid will probably sue his dad | PECAD8::CHILDS | Steelers get a pants-down spanking | Tue Feb 04 1997 18:55 | 2 |
|
or end up on Rickie Lake.......
|
| 14.1901 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | Steelers get a pants-down spanking | Wed Feb 05 1997 12:52 | 6 |
|
Kansas goes down to Missouri 76-74 (I think) in Double OT. Just yesterday I
was telling someone they'd probably go undfeated because they'd played all
their tough ones early...what a KOD!!!!!!!!!!!
;^)
|
| 14.1902 | good uns | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:30 | 10 |
| Ya gotta hand it to Missouri. They play formerly #1 Kansas and prolly #1
Wake thised same week.
In addition to the KU-Mo, game there were a couple of other good games.
So Carolina continues to impress by beating Kentucky.
And Ace Custis hits a shot at the buzzer to edge Gee Dub.
TTom
|
| 14.1903 | What about the Big 10? | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:33 | 6 |
|
You forgot about Iowa beating Indiana in Iowa City. Of course, I'm
probably the only one in this conference who cares!
Kevin
|
| 14.1904 | whatabout Jess? | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:43 | 5 |
| That was a pretty good game but not nearly as close as the others.
What's with Jess Settles?
TTom
|
| 14.1905 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | A great face for radio... | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:39 | 9 |
|
Iowa is always solid, Indiana is no great shakes this year. It's not
a big surprise.
I only saw a little of SC/Kentucky, but it looked like the 'Cocks
weren't having that much trouble hanging in there. They have a guard
that is F-A-S-T. On a break, he made the Kentucky guys look like they
were standing still.
|
| 14.1906 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:40 | 9 |
| Knight pulls a classic last night and sits Reed and Patterson to start
the game.
Kentucky and Kansas endings were great. While Kansas with Pollard back
is the best team in the country they will not win the title. IM looks
for a lower tier team to get RED HOT with the 3 pointer and take the
big dance......
Jimbo
|
| 14.1907 | BJ and Larry | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:51 | 10 |
| That's BJ McKie who's "F-A-S-T". He's got some jets, don't he.
And the other guard, Larry Davis, has a nice shot to really complement
the Cocks in the backcourt. Davis started at Chapel Hill but Dean worked
a deal letting him go to his protege Eddie Fogler.
It's amazing that So Carolina is undefeated in league play. I caint think
of another major conference with a team with no losses inside it.
TTom
|
| 14.1908 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Bang! Bang! Bang! | Wed Feb 05 1997 13:47 | 8 |
|
Never thought I'd see a team show Kentucky the better athletes
in crunch time but that's what South Carolina did last night.
My pick to win the NCAA is Louisville. Yes, I know they got
smoked by Temple but Temple has whupped on everyone in that
conference. I like Denny Crum and I have faith in his ability
to take 'em there.
|
| 14.1909 | some of this changed lasted night | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Wed Feb 05 1997 16:16 | 202 |
|
Early NCAA Tournament projections
By Joe Lunardi
Special to ESPNET SportsZone
_________________________________________________________________
(The following is the first in a series for ESPNET SportsZone as the
adidas BLUE RIBBON Tournament Preview edition projects the 1997 NCAA
men's basketball championship.)
East Regional
March 13 & 15/WINSTON-SALEM
(6) Xavier vs. (11) Boston College
(3) Maryland vs. (14) NORTHEAST/Long Island
(7) Iowa vs. (10) SUN BELT/New Orleans
(2) Louisville vs. (15) BIG SOUTH/UNC-Asheville
March 14 & 16/PITTSBURGH
(1) Wake Forest vs. (16) MEAC/Coppin State
(8) Temple vs. (9) West Virginia
(5) South Carolina vs. (12) AMERICA EAST/Boston University
(4) Indiana vs. (13) MAC/Eastern Michigan
Southeast Regional
March 13 & 15/MEMPHIS
(1) Kentucky vs. (16) OVC/Murray State
(8) Tulane vs. (9) Purdue
(5) Colorado vs. (12) CAA/East Carolina
(4) North Carolina vs. (13) TAAC/Charleston
March 14 & 16/CHARLOTTE
(6) Texas Tech vs. (11) Mississippi
(3) Michigan vs. (14) IVY/Princeton
(7) Providence vs. (10) UNC Charlotte
(2) Duke vs. (15) SOUTHERN/UT-Chattanooga
Midwest Regional
March 13 & 15/AUBURN HILLS
(1) Kansas vs. (16) SWAC/Mississippi Valley State
(8) Illinois vs. (9) St. Joseph's
(5) New Mexico vs. (12) Connecticut
(4) Arizona vs. (13) MID-CONT/Valparaiso
March 14 & 16/KANSAS CITY
(6) California vs. (11) Miami (Fla.)
(3) Tulsa vs. (14) MAAC/Iona
(7) Texas vs. (10) MVC/Illinois State
(2) Clemson vs. (15) MCC/Butler
West Regional
March 13 & 15/SALT LAKE CITY
(6) Virginia vs. (11) Colorado State
(3) Cincinnati vs. (14) BIG SKY/Northern Arizona
(7) Stanford vs. (10) Rhode Island
(2) Villanova vs. (15) PATRIOT/Colgate
March 14 & 16/TUCSON
(1) Minnesota vs. (16) SLC/Southwest Texas State
(8) Iowa State vs. (9) Georgia
(5) UCLA vs. (12) BIG WEST/Utah State
(4) Utah vs. (13) WCC/Santa Clara
Last Four Teams in the field:
Mississippi
Boston College
Colorado State
Connecticut
Last Four Teams excluded:
Hawaii
Fresno State
Oral Roberts
Massachusetts
Notes:
No team is a greater "lock" for its position than top-ranked Kansas.
The Jayhawks will certainly stay in their natural Midwest Region, but
-- as host of first/second round games at Kemper Arena -- cannot open
NCAA play in Kansas City. Therefore, look for KU at Auburn Hills,
Mich. on March 13.
Three No. 1 seeds -- Kansas, Wake Forest and Kentucky -- are no
mystery. Minnesota currently leads Louisville, with the Cardinals
having lost on Sunday, for the final top seed. The No. 2 seeds --
Villanova, Louisville, Clemson and Duke -- are among the weaker second
seeds (for now) in recent memory.
It is conceivable that Wake Forest, if it remains the ACC leader,
could be slotted as the No. 1 seed in the Southeast Region. This would
allow the Demon Deacons to play in nearby Charlotte in the first and
second rounds. However, such a move would require that at least two
other projected No. 1 seeds -- in this case Kentucky and Minnesota --
be placed outside their natural geographic regions. As such, it makes
more sense to keep Wake as the top seed in the East.
Check out the college basketball royalty in the Southeast Region,
where the projected four high seeds are Kentucky, Duke, Michigan and
North Carolina.
The numbers do not support the pollsters' fascination with Iowa
State and Boston College, hence their relatively low seeds. The
Cyclones, despite a hot streak of 7-3, have a mediocre RPI of 45. They
also have by far the lowest schedule strength in the at-large pool
(163); seven of Iowa State's victories have come against teams ranked
below 150 by RPI. ISU is likely to see those numbers rise against
superior Big 12 competition, but gains have been slow to date. Boston
College, meanwhile, is the lowest-ranked team (56) in the at-large
pool. The Eagles dropped 18 slots this week and are 0-3 against Top 25
competition, but are saved (for the moment) by a 7-4 Big East record.
Illinois State (MVC), New Orleans (Sun Belt) and perhaps Boston
University (America East) are the only teams from "one bid" leagues
which appear capable of securing an at-large berth should they fail to
win their respective conference tournaments. However, their positions
are not nearly as secure as those a year ago of teams like
Wisconsin-Green Bay and Eastern Michigan.
UNC Charlotte can play its first/second round game(s) at the
Charlotte Coliseum. Davidson is the host school, and the 49ers do not
use the Coliseum during the regular season.
Whatever happened to Oregon? The once-mighty Ducks have fallen to
3-6 in Pac-10 play, and their 7-0 non-conference record is a distant
memory.
Don't look now, but it sure wouldn't hurt North Carolina to win some
conference games. The Tar Heels are 3-5 in the ACC, 2-4 on the road
and just 1-5 vs. Top 25 opponents.
Looking for "bubble" pressure? Try the Atlantic 10 East, where
Temple, St. Joseph's, Rhode Island and Massachusetts are fighting for
no more than 2-3 NCAA berths. St. Joseph's currently leads the
division with a 6-2 record, but Temple's recent non-league victories
over Cincinnati and Louisville rate the Owls a higher projected seed.
Also extremely jumbled are the Big East Six and the WAC Pacific
Division.
The SEC West could be completely shut out of the field if neither
Mississippi nor Arkansas distinguishes itself in the coming weeks.
Biggest winners this week (either in making the field or in moving
up the seeding charts): Illinois, New Mexico, Villanova, Temple,
Tulane, UNC-Charlotte and Duke.
Biggest losers (down the chart or off the board entirely):
Connecticut, Arizona, Cincinnati, Boston College, Indiana, Marquette
and Wisconsin.
Major conference breakdown: ACC (6); Big East (6); Big Ten (6); Big
12 (5); Atlantic 10 (4); Conference-USA (4); Pac-10 (4); SEC (4); WAC
(4).
In the case of conferences likely to earn only an automatic bid
(indicated with ALL CAPS), the current regular season standings leader
has been listed.
A projected NIT field will appear in a subsequent edition of the
BLUE RIBBON post-season report.
Author Joe Lunardi may be reached on the Internet at
"jlunardi@sju.edu".
To order the 1997 adidas Blue Ribbon Tournament Preview, call
1-800-828-HOOP (4667). This 80-page volume is prepared on Selection
Sunday and shipped via Priority Mail in time for the March 13th first
round games.
Cost, including shipping, is just $9.95 (overnight service is also
available and encouraged). And visit our Tournament Guide Internet
site at "www.bookworld.com/bball3.htm".
|
| 14.1910 | Ace Custis is a big-time player | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Wed Feb 05 1997 16:14 | 12 |
| Yeah McKie was fast, but Melvin Watson was faster - he was a blur!
Dickie V's player of the game (at least one of them!).
GW again shows that they're a total fraud, losing to a mediocre Va.
Tech team by shooting 26% from the field. Mescherikov is the only guy
who's any sort of an offensive threat for them. Amazing to me to see
Temple get starched at St. Bonnie's, especially with the Bonnie's best
player, Rashaan Palmer, getting only four minutes. ANyone know what
happened to Palmer?
NAZZ
|
| 14.1911 | walk on by | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Fri Feb 07 1997 15:36 | 24 |
| Didja catch the ending of the Cincinnati-Tulane game?
Wail, Tulane has been playing real well and the possibly overrated Cats
aint. With seconds to go, Tulane goes up a point with a couple of seconds
left. Cincy throws a full court pass to the big guy, Danny Fortson, who
takes somewhere between 3 qnd 10 steps and lays it in with .2 left to win
it 65-64.
Even Fortson admitted that he prolly walked.
Louisville lost it's seconded in a row after beating Cincy. They were
drubbed at Temple (and went up in the polls!~) and lasted night, the
Billikens of Saint Louie beat 'em, 62-64. It was their firsted win in 20
tries.
Wisconsin ended a mini-skid and held up against Michigan, 58-53. The game
turned on a_injury when Paul Grant elbowed Maurice Taylor which
apparently broke his nose. In any case, Taylor din't return and Grant
went on to play well and basically made the game winning shot.
It was not a good night for one other to 25 team, Tulso, who lost to Rice
bad, 58-75.
TTom
|
| 14.1912 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Fri Feb 07 1997 16:24 | 4 |
| > Louisville lost it's seconded in a row after beating Cincy. They were
> drubbed at Temple (and went up in the polls!~)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ aka Da Brydie factor
|
| 14.1913 | Incredible finish | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Fri Feb 07 1997 16:36 | 19 |
| But you missed the bested part of the Tulane-Cincy game, TTom. Here's
the whole scoop: Cincy grabs a 6 pt. lead under two minutes left.
Tulane hits a 3, then gets a turnover and hits two FTs. Honeycutt, who
is losing his personal battle to Fortson badly, then hits a jumper,
Tulane goes up one, 18 seconds left. Ref calles a push off the ball,
Cincy guy makes one of two, we're tied at 63. Honeycutt then gets
whapped in the face, throws the ball away. Two seconds left. Cincy
heaves a fullcourt pass to Fortson who for some reason is completely
uncovered. Fortson takes his 4-5 steps, lays it in, pandemonium!
But there is still 0:00.2 left! Refs call a technical on Cincy for the
bench running onto the court. Tulane can tie it but Honeycutt misses
the first of two FTs. He makes the 2nd, but all they could hope for on
the inbounds is a tip, and the inbounder didn't even throw the ball
toward the basket. Great finish.
As was the game in the Mullins Center. Carmelo Travieso is a big-time
shooter. He sure saved Umass' butt.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1914 | A look into the future - a month from now | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Mon Feb 10 1997 18:55 | 29 |
| Here's my firsted take on the NCAA tourney bracket. I've got six teams
from the ACC, five from the Big 10, Big 12, A-10 and Conf. USA, and four
from the SEC, Big East, and WAC. This is based mostly on guesswork,
but partially from the RPI rankings, which for example has all five
A-10 teams in its Top 40.
EAST SOUTHEAST MIDWEST WEST
1. Wake Forest 1. Kentucky 1. Kansas 1. Minnesota
2. Cincinnati 2. Clemson 2. Maryland 2. Utah
3. Duke 3. UCLA 3. South Carolina 3. Arizona
4. Villanova 4. North Car. 4. New Mexico 4. Colorado
5. Tulane 5. Louisville 5. Michigan 5. Stanford
6. St. Joseph's 6. Marquette 6. Xavier 6. Texas Tech
7. Providence 7. Miami (FL) 7. Illinois 7. Indiana
8. Temple 8. Texas 8. Virginia 8. UMass
9. Iowa 9. Rhode Island 9. West Virginia 9. Hawaii
10. California 10. Iowa State 10. Washington 10. Illinois St.
11. Tulsa 11. Eastern Mich. 11. NC-Charlotte 11. Georgia
12. Charleston 12. East Carolina 12. Mississippi 12. Pacific
13. Boston U. 13. New Orleans 13. Valparaiso 13. No. Arizona
14. Long Island U. 14. Iona 14. Marshall 14. Gonzaga
15. Princeton 15. NC-Asheville 15. Butler 15. Murray State
16. Colgate 16. Coppin State 16. SW Texas St. 16. Miss. Valley
Remember, no team can play another from its own conference before the
regional final.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1915 | watch for them heels | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Tue Feb 11 1997 12:46 | 10 |
| It looks like Tar Heels bashers are not gonna get to do much gloating
thised year. What looked like a really off year for 'em is quietly
turning into just another average one. They now look like they'll be in
the Sweet 16 again. As usual.
The question mark for the ACC is Virginia who's been up and down and most
lately the whoopee at Chapel Hill. Florida St droppped outta contention
and like, Georgia Tech, would have to win the league tourney to get in.
TTom
|
| 14.1916 | | CSC32::MACGREGOR | Colorado: the TRUE mid-west | Tue Feb 11 1997 15:23 | 9 |
|
RE: Tar Heel bashing
That is because of Deans system. It makes the bad teams look better
and the good teams look worse. He should use the system with the bad
players and when he gets good ones modify it appropriately.
Marc
|
| 14.1917 | :^) | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Feb 11 1997 15:37 | 7 |
|
> Remember, no team can play another from its own conference before the
> regional final.
What if a conference sends 9 teams?
- Sean
|
| 14.1918 | don't worry, the Pack won't make it | HBAHBA::HAAS | Come on down, Gilbert Brown | Tue Feb 11 1997 15:55 | 3 |
| Sean
The glory days of the Big East are over :=]
|
| 14.1919 | | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 17 1997 17:48 | 483 |
| Note: RPI's thourgh 2/15 as per ESPNet; results through 2/16. Also note
that for some reason Portland State is not being included in ESPNet's RPI
calculations. RPI's are the number listed after overall records.
America East
------------
Boston University 15- 1 20- 4 44
Drexel 14- 2 18- 7 85
Hartford 11- 5 16- 8 117
Hofstra 8- 8 11-13 188
Delaware 8- 9 14-13 147
Maine 6- 9 10-16 191
Vermont 5-10 12-11 208
New Hampshire 5-11 7-17 220
Northeastern 4-12 5-19 250
Towson State 4-13 7-17 241
Atlantic Coast
--------------
Duke 10- 3 21- 5 6
Wake Forest 9- 3 20- 3 2
Clemson 8- 4 20- 5 5
Maryland 8- 4 19- 6 15
North Carolina 7- 5 17- 6 8
Virginia 5- 8 15-10 29
Florida State 4- 9 13- 9 56
Georgia Tech 3- 9 9-13 73
North Carolina State 2-11 10-12 83
Atlantic Ten
------------
Eastern Division
----------------
St.Joseph's 10- 3 17- 6 22
Massachusetts 9- 3 16-10 25
Rhode Island 9- 4 15- 8 41
Temple 7- 5 14- 8 28
St.Bonaventure 5- 6 12- 8 89
Fordham 1-11 6-16 235
Western Division
----------------
Xavier (Ohio) 9- 3 18- 4 30
Virginia Tech 6- 6 13-11 103
George Washington 5- 6 11-10 76
Duquesne 4- 7 8-13 148
LaSalle 3- 8 8-13 159
Dayton 3- 9 10-12 167
Big East Conference
-------------------
Big East Seven
--------------
Miami (Florida) 9- 4 15- 6 63
Providence 9- 5 18- 7 31
Georgetown 8- 7 15- 8 69
Pittsburgh 7- 7 13-12 81
Syracuse 5- 8 14-10 65
Rutgers 5- 9 11-11 100
Seton Hall 3-11 8-15 140
Big East Six
------------
Boston College 10- 5 16- 7 48
Villanova 9- 5 18- 7 9
West Virginia 8- 6 14- 7 46
Connecticut 6- 7 13- 9 40
Notre Dame 6- 8 12-10 71
St.John's 6- 9 11-12 70
Big Sky Conference
------------------
Northern Arizona 10- 1 17- 4 80
Montana 8- 5 16- 9 146
Montana State 8- 5 14-11 139
Idaho State 7- 6 11-10 210
Weber State 7- 6 12-11 157
Portland State 6- 7 9-14 *
Cal State Northridge 5- 6 9-12 233
Cal State Sacramento 2- 9 3-18 280
Eastern Washington 2-10 6-16 274
Big South Conference
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North Carolina-Asheville 9- 3 15- 9 107
Liberty 8- 3 18- 8 136
Charleston Southern 7- 5 13-11 149
Radford 7- 5 13-11 183
No. Carolina-Greensboro 6- 6 10-17 225
Coastal Carolina 5- 6 10-13 209
Winthrop 4- 8 10-13 263
Maryland-Baltimore Co. 1-11 3-20 302
Big Ten Conference
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Minnesota 11- 1 22- 2 4
Illinois 8- 5 18- 7 26
Wisconsin 8- 5 15- 7 32
Purdue 8- 5 13-10 34
Michigan 7- 5 17- 7 18
Iowa 7- 5 16- 8 39
Indiana 7- 6 20- 7 10
Michigan State 5- 7 12- 9 75
Ohio State 5- 7 10-11 99
Penn State 2-11 9-13 124
Northwestern 1-12 6-18 199
Big Twelve Conference
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Northern Division
-----------------
Kansas 11- 1 25- 1 1
Iowa State 9- 3 18- 4 37
Colorado 8- 4 17- 7 27
Nebraska 5- 7 14-11 54
Missouri 5- 7 13-12 78
Kansas State 2-10 9-13 119
Southern Division
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Texas 8- 4 14- 8 17
Texas Tech 7- 5 15- 7 24
Oklahoma 6- 6 14- 8 66
Oklahoma State 5- 7 13-11 43
Baylor 5- 8 16- 9 72
Texas A&M 2-10 8-14 127
Big West Conference
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Eastern Division
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Utah State 9- 3 16- 7 108
Nevada 9- 3 15- 7 88
New Mexico State 8- 4 14- 8 98
Boise State 8- 4 13- 9 145
Idaho 4- 8 12-14 195
North Texas 4- 8 9-13 231
Western Division
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Pacific 9- 3 18- 4 102
Cal State Long Beach 6- 6 10-12 182
Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 5- 7 12-13 194
Cal-Santa Barbara 5- 7 10-12 213
Cal State Fullerton 4- 8 11-11 214
Cal-Irvine 1-11 1-20 299
Colonial Athletic Association
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No. Carolina-Wilmington 9- 5 14-12 114
James Madison 8- 5 14- 9 122
Virginia Commonwealth 8- 5 13-11 130
East Carolina 7- 6 15- 8 97
Old Dominion 7- 6 16-10 116
William and Mary 7- 6 10-13 190
American 6- 7 9-13 184
Richmond 5- 8 9-13 174
George Mason 3-11 9-15 219
Conference U.S.A.
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Blue Division
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Cincinnati 7- 1 19- 5 7
Marquette 5- 4 14- 7 86
St.Louis 3- 7 9-14 137
DePaul 1-10 3-19 215
Red Division
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Tulane 7- 3 16- 9 50
Alabama-Birmingham 6- 5 15-10 93
Southern Mississippi 6- 5 11-11 138
South Florida 1- 8 7-14 221
White Division
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North Carolina-Charlotte 8- 3 17- 6 35
Louisville 6- 3 19- 5 11
Memphis 7- 4 13-12 77
Houston 3- 7 11-11 133
Ivy League
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Princeton 9- 0 18- 3 58
Dartmouth 8- 2 16- 6 113
Harvard 7- 3 14- 8 135
Pennsylvania 5- 4 9-12 175
Cornell 5- 5 13- 9 158
Yale 2- 8 9-13 242
Brown 2- 8 3-19 267
Columbia 1- 9 6-16 254
Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
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Canisius 9- 3 14-10 129
Iona 8- 3 19- 6 105
St.Peter's 8- 4 11-13 202
Loyola (Baltimore) 7- 4 10-13 201
Manhattan 5- 7 9-14 212
Niagara 4- 8 9-15 218
Siena 3- 8 8-15 243
Fairfield 2- 9 8-15 255
Mid-American Conference
-----------------------
Bowling Green State 11- 3 19- 6 61
Ohio 10- 4 15- 7 79
Eastern Michigan 9- 4 18- 6 67
Miami (Ohio) 8- 5 13- 8 115
Ball State 7- 7 14-10 94
Western Michigan 7- 7 11-11 168
Kent 6- 8 8-14 181
Toledo 4-10 11-11 176
Akron 4-10 6-16 234
Central Michigan 3-11 6-16 270
Mid Continent Conference
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Valparaiso 12- 2 20- 5 74
Western Illinois 9- 5 14- 9 155
Buffalo 9- 5 14-10 132
Troy State 8- 5 14-10 163
Missouri-Kansas City 7- 7 10-14 223
Northeastern Illinois 6- 8 13-11 165
Youngstown State 4-10 9-15 260
Chicago State 4-10 4-20 271
Central Connecticut St. 3-10 7-16 272
Mideastern Athletic Conference
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Coppin State 11- 3 14- 8 192
South Carolina State 11- 3 12-10 196
North Carolina A&T 10- 3 12- 8 248
Bethune-Cookman 6- 7 8-13 286
Hampton 6- 8 7-17 285
Florida A&M 6- 8 6-16 277
Morgan State 5- 8 6-15 282
Howard 5- 9 5-17 292
Delaware State 4- 9 4-17 291
Maryland-Eastern Shore 4-10 8-14 296
Midwestern Collegiate Conference
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Butler 10- 3 18- 8 95
Illinois-Chicago 9- 4 10-12 177
Detroit Mercy 9- 5 14-12 154
Wisconsin-Green Bay 7- 6 10-13 179
Loyola (Chicago) 6- 7 11-12 249
Northern Illinois 6- 8 12-12 205
Cleveland State 6- 8 8-16 240
Wright State 4- 9 6-17 261
Wisconsin-Milwaukee 3-10 6-17 264
Missouri Valley Conference
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Illinois State 12- 3 19- 4 47
Northern Iowa 10- 5 14- 9 64
Southwest Missouri State 9- 6 19- 7 60
Evansville 9- 6 15-12 84
Bradley 9- 6 12-11 131
Creighton 8- 6 13-12 123
Wichita State 6- 8 12-10 126
Southern Illinois 6- 9 13-13 120
Indiana State 5-10 10-13 153
Drake 0-15 1-22 247
Northeast Conference
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Long Island 13- 2 16- 7 92
Fairleigh Dickinson 12- 3 16- 7 104
Monmouth 9- 6 13-10 164
Rider 9- 6 12-11 173
St.Francis (Penn.) 8- 7 11-12 217
Mount St.Mary's 7- 8 11-12 172
St.Francis (N.Y.) 6- 9 11-12 245
Wagner 6- 9 9-14 229
Marist 3-12 4-17 298
Robert Morris 2-13 3-20 288
Ohio Valley Conference
----------------------
Austin Peay State 11- 4 14-11 211
Middle Tennessee State 10- 6 17-10 150
Murray State 9- 6 14- 9 206
Tennessee Tech 9- 7 13-11 232
Eastern Illinois 9- 7 11-12 259
Southeast Missouri State 8- 7 11-14 227
Tennessee State 7- 9 9-15 237
Tennessee-Martin 6- 9 9-15 266
Eastern Kentucky 5-11 7-17 289
Morehead State 4-11 6-17 297
Pacific Ten Conference
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UCLA 10- 3 15- 7 19
California 9- 4 18- 6 16
Southern California 9- 4 14- 8 42
Arizona 8- 4 16- 6 12
Stanford 8- 5 15- 6 38
Washington 7- 5 14- 7 87
Oregon 5- 8 14- 8 62
Washington State 3- 9 11-13 152
Arizona State 2-10 10-14 156
Oregon State 2-11 6-16 189
Patriot League
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Navy 9- 2 17- 8 169
Bucknell 7- 3 14-10 203
Colgate 6- 4 10-13 185
Army 5- 5 10-13 268
Holy Cross 5- 5 8-16 279
Lafayette 3- 7 8-16 281
Lehigh 1-10 1-23 304
Southeastern Conference
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Eastern Division
----------------
South Carolina 11- 1 18- 6 13
Kentucky 10- 2 24- 3 3
Georgia 7- 5 18- 6 23
Vanderbilt 7- 5 16- 8 33
Tennessee 4- 8 11-11 112
Florida 4- 8 11-13 142
Western Division
----------------
Mississippi 7- 5 15- 7 49
Arkansas 7- 5 14- 8 45
Mississippi State 5- 7 11-14 96
Auburn 5- 8 14-12 90
Alabama 4- 8 14-11 82
Louisiana State 2-11 9-17 121
Southern Conference
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Northern Division
-----------------
Marshall 9- 3 17- 7 101
Davidson 8- 4 15- 9 111
Appalachian State 7- 5 12-12 166
Virginia Militaray 6- 6 10-14 216
East Tennessee State 2-10 7-17 258
Southern Division
-----------------
Tennessee-Chattanooga 10- 2 17- 9 151
The Citadel 5- 7 12-11 204
Western Carolina 5- 7 12-12 197
Furman 4- 8 10-14 236
Georgia Southern 4- 8 8-16 278
Southland Conference
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Southwest Texas State 9- 4 13-10 180
Northeast Louisiana 8- 5 11-11 187
Northwestern State 8- 6 12-12 222
McNeese State 7- 6 13-11 193
Stephen F. Austin 6- 6 10-12 239
Texas-Arlington 6- 6 10-12 251
Sam Houston State 5- 6 6-15 257
Nicholls State 5- 8 8-15 253
Texas-San Antonio 3-10 8-15 284
Southwestern Athletic Conference
--------------------------------
Mississippi Valley St. 10- 2 16- 7 186
Jackson State 7- 5 9-15 252
Texas Southern 6- 5 11-12 238
Alcorn State 6- 6 8-15 269
Prairie View A&M 6- 7 8-16 287
Southern 5- 7 8-13 293
Alabama State 5- 7 7-17 273
Grambling State 3- 8 8-15 295
Sun Belt Conference
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New Orleans 13- 3 20- 4 53
South Alabama 12- 3 18- 5 91
Arkansas-Little Rock 9- 6 15- 9 143
Lamar 9- 7 14-10 160
Western Kentucky 9- 8 12-13 161
Louisiana Tech 8- 8 11-12 171
Southwestern Louisiana 7- 7 9-13 200
Arkansas State 6-10 13-11 141
Jacksonville 4-12 4-20 276
Texas-Pan American 1-15 3-22 300
Trans America Athletic Conference
---------------------------------
Eastern Division
----------------
College of Charleston 14- 0 23- 2 51
Florida International 10- 4 12-12 198
Florida Atlantic 9- 5 13-11 226
Campbell 7- 7 10-14 224
Stetson 5- 9 9-15 283
Central Florida 4-10 7-17 301
Western Division
----------------
Samford 9- 5 15- 8 230
Southeastern Louisiana 7- 7 9-15 303
Jacksonville State 7- 7 8-16 265
Georgia State 5- 8 9-14 275
Centenary 5- 9 8-16 290
Mercer 1-12 3-20 305
West Coast Conference
---------------------
St.Mary's 8- 4 18- 7 110
Gonzaga 8- 4 15- 9 170
Santa Clara 8- 4 14-10 106
San Fransisco 7- 5 12-12 162
San Diego 6- 6 14-10 144
Portland 4- 8 9-15 244
Pepperdine 4- 8 6-18 262
Loyola Marymount 3- 9 6-18 256
Western Athletic Conference
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Mountain Division
-----------------
Utah 10- 1 18- 3 14
Tulsa 9- 3 19- 7 20
New Mexico 9- 3 20- 4 21
Southern Methodist 6- 7 14- 9 134
Texas Christian 5- 7 16- 9 55
Rice 5- 7 11-11 118
Texas-El Paso 4- 9 10-12 109
Brigham Young 0-13 1-21 246
Pacific Division
----------------
Hawaii 9- 2 17- 4 36
Fresno State 8- 3 16- 9 68
Colorado State 7- 4 17- 6 59
Nevada-Las Vegas 6- 4 14- 7 57
Wyoming 7- 5 11-12 125
San Diego State 5- 8 11-11 178
San Jose State 3- 9 11-11 128
Air Force 2-10 6-15 228
Independents
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Oral Roberts 17- 5 52
Southern Utah 7-14 207
Wofford 7-16 294
|
| 14.1920 | | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 17 1997 18:36 | 122 |
| Based on -.1, here is a list that could be the NCAA tournament
selections. At least a starting point for consideration:
Kansas 11- 1 25- 1 1
Wake Forest 9- 3 20- 3 2
Kentucky 10- 2 24- 3 3
Minnesota 11- 1 22- 2 4
Clemson 8- 4 20- 5 5
Duke 10- 3 21- 5 6
Cincinnati 7- 1 19- 5 7
North Carolina 7- 5 17- 6 8
Villanova 9- 5 18- 7 9
Indiana 7- 6 20- 7 10
Louisville 6- 3 19- 5 11
Arizona 8- 4 16- 6 12
South Carolina 11- 1 18- 6 13
Utah 10- 1 18- 3 14
Maryland 8- 4 19- 6 15
California 9- 4 18- 6 16
Texas 8- 4 14- 8 17
Michigan 7- 5 17- 7 18
UCLA 10- 3 15- 7 19
Tulsa 9- 3 19- 7 20
New Mexico 9- 3 20- 4 21
St.Joseph's 10- 3 17- 6 22
Georgia 7- 5 18- 6 23
Texas Tech 7- 5 15- 7 24
Massachusetts 9- 3 16-10 25
Illinois 8- 5 18- 7 26
Colorado 8- 4 17- 7 27
Temple 7- 5 14- 8 28
Virginia 5- 8 15-10 29
Xavier (Ohio) 9- 3 18- 4 30
Providence 9- 5 18- 7 31
Wisconsin 8- 5 15- 7 32
Vanderbilt 7- 5 16- 8 33
North Carolina-Charlotte 8- 3 17- 6 35
Hawaii 9- 2 17- 4 36
Iowa State 9- 3 18- 4 37
Stanford 8- 5 15- 6 38
Iowa 7- 5 16- 8 39
Rhode Island 9- 4 15- 8 41
Southern California 9- 4 14- 8 42
Boston University 15- 1 20- 4 44
West Virginia 8- 6 14- 7 46
Illinois State 12- 3 19- 4 47
Boston College 10- 5 16- 7 48
College of Charleston 14- 0 23- 2 51
New Orleans 13- 3 20- 4 53
Princeton 9- 0 18- 3 58
Bowling Green State 11- 3 19- 6 61
Miami (Florida) 9- 4 15- 6 63
Valparaiso 12- 2 20- 5 74
Northern Arizona 10- 1 17- 4 80
Long Island 13- 2 16- 7 92
Butler 10- 3 18- 8 95
Pacific 9- 3 18- 4 102
Iona 8- 3 19- 6 105
North Carolina-Asheville 9- 3 15- 9 107
St.Mary's 8- 4 18- 7 110
No. Carolina-Wilmington 9- 5 14-12 114
Tennessee-Chattanooga 10- 2 17- 9 151
Navy 9- 2 17- 8 169
Southwest Texas State 9- 4 13-10 180
Mississippi Valley St. 10- 2 16- 7 186
Coppin State 11- 3 14- 8 192
Austin Peay State 11- 4 14-11 211
Of the top 50, the ones left out are:
Purdue 8- 5 13-10 34
Connecticut 6- 7 13- 9 40
Oklahoma State 5- 7 13-11 43
Arkansas 7- 5 14- 8 45
Mississippi 7- 5 15- 7 49
Tulane 7- 3 16- 9 50
The teams I feel that are bubble teams that are more likely to make
the tournament than these 6 are:
Vanderbilt 7- 5 16- 8 33
Hawaii 9- 2 17- 4 36
Rhode Island 9- 4 15- 8 41
Southern California 9- 4 14- 8 42
West Virginia 8- 6 14- 7 46
Miami (Florida) 9- 4 15- 6 63
Vanderbilt has the highest RPI of the 12 bubble teams; the question, do you
take 4 from the SEC east and perhaps none from the west ? I think the NCAA
would, as Vanderbilt is (IMO) significantly better that Arkansas or Ole Miss.
Next is Purdue, who has a good mark in the Big 10 and high RPI; but the
Big 10 has done very poorly in the last 2 NCAA tournaments, and Purdue would
be the 7th team from the Big 10. Moreover, Purdue has the 2nd worst overall
record of the 12 bubble teams. I think last year's horrendous Big 10 show in
the NCAA's keeps a 7th team out.
Hawaii is next. Does the WAC deserve 4 teams ? Well, Hawaii's RPI is good
enough, overall record is good enough, and 4 WAC teams out of 16 isn't overly
saturating the field with WAC teams. Hawaii goes.
Next is UConn; I also consider two other Big East teams at the same time,
WVU and Miami. UConn has the highest RPI of the three, but worst overall
record, and worst conference record. I think the NCAA probably would give the
Big East 4 or 5 teams after a good performance last year. WVU is the most
likely of the three to get a bid. Does either UConn or Miami go above the
SEC's 5th and 6th teams, Arkansas and Ole Miss ? I think the question would
be which of the two (Miami and Mississippi) division winners gets to go.
In my opinion, although Ole Miss has the higher RPI, Miami has had a stronger
second hald of the season, and gets in.
That leaves my last pick, USC, which has had a very good conference season, a
strong second half, much stronger (IMO) than UConn, Arkansas, and Ole Miss.
Tulane has faded badly in the recent stages, and while Oklahoma State is up
there in RPI, their talent level and overall play just isn't anywhere near
the other 11 in the group.
So, IMO, Miami edges Ole Miss, Arkansas, and UConn for the last berth, based
largely on winning a division title in a tough league, and having a stronger
second half of the season as compared to the other team in the same category,
Mississippi.
|
| 14.1921 | Big East is wide open | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Mon Feb 17 1997 18:38 | 10 |
| Atlatnic 10 has four teams in the Top 30 according to the RPI index,
while the Big East only has Villanova at a very inflated #9 among the
Top 30.
With such a low power ranking, the Big East has little chance for five
teams to get into the tournament. In fact, if Miami or BC loses in the
first round of the Big East Tournament, they may only get three teams
invited. Right now, only Nova and Providence are locks.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1922 | maybe no 'Hoos | HBAHBA::HAAS | netwrok spatialist | Mon Feb 17 1997 18:40 | 4 |
| And Virginia's chances took a beating thanks in part to the Clemson refs
who forgot to start the clock.
TTom
|
| 14.1923 | | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 17 1997 18:55 | 32 |
| Virginia's chances are great, TTom. The ACC has 5 of the top 15
RPI-ranked teams in the country, 4 of the top 8. Virginia is still
in the top 30 themselves. Unless they go 0-for-the remainder, they
probably are going. No conference will get 6 if the ACC doesn't,
and there just aren't enough good teams at the mid-to-lower echelons
of the big name conferences to knock out UVa.
While the A-10 has five teams in the top-30, it's not like they have a
sixth team that is competing with these teams. The fact that the ACC
and Big 10 have 6 sure bids is not relevant either. No way the
Big East gets only three bids; PC and Nova are in, and at least
two of Miami, BC, and WVU (or 1 plus a surpise tourney champ).
I agree that the Big East may not get 5, but if they don't the SEC
will get 5 or Conference USA will get 4. I don't see Tulane or
Marquette getting a bid unless they turn things around quickly.
Tulane has lost three or four in a row; Marquette has a home loss
to Princeton and another loss to Maine.
The question is, how do Miami, WVU, BC finish as compared to Vandy,
Ole Miss, and Arkansas ? 4 of these 8 teams (or 5 of 10 if you
throw in USC and Purdue into consideration) are gonna have to get
bids, unless a team like BU or Illinois State loses thir tournament
and somehow pulls a surprise and gets an at large bid anyway.
Arkansas has the advantage of history on their side vs Miami, and that
could be the deciding factor, but the Razorbacks haven't impressed me
that much this year, despite a recent victory over Georgia as a win
"big enough" (their claim) to get the focus of NCAA attention on them.
Purdue could surprise everyone by closing strong and getting in, but
they are more likely to knock out Wisconsin or Iowa than a team outside
the Big 10.
|
| 14.1924 | | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Feb 17 1997 19:48 | 27 |
| In any case, I would look at pairings something like these:
East Southeast Midwest West
Wake Forest Kentucky Kansas Minnesota 1
Austin Peay Miss. Valley Coppin State SW Texas State 16
Providence Massachusetts Virginia UNC-Charlotte 8
Stanford Wisconsin Temple Hawaii 9
St.Joseph's Maryland California Iowa State 4
Long Island Miami Florida Valparaiso Northern Arizona 13
Indiana Arizona Michigan UCLA 5
Boston Univ Princeton Bowling Green West Virginia 12
Cincinnati Duke Villanova Clemson 2
Navy UNC-Wilmington UT-Chattanooga St.Mary's 15
Colorado Illinois Texas Tech Xavier Ohio 7
Rhode Island Charleston Vanderbilt USC 10
South Carolina Louisville North Carolina Utah 3
Iona UNC-Asheville Butler Pacific 14
Tulsa Texas New Mexico Georgia 6
Boston College New Orleans Iowa Illinois State 11
|
| 14.1925 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Feb 18 1997 12:31 | 5 |
|
Cool! If PC and URI are both in the East, I'll get to see both
at the Regionals in Syracuse!
- Sean
|
| 14.1926 | Top 25s | HBAHBA::HAAS | netwrok spatialist | Tue Feb 18 1997 15:18 | 90 |
| Top 25s follow:
The Associated Press Top 25
______________________________________________________________________
The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with number of
first-place votes and this season's records in parentheses, total
points and previous ranking: (THROUGH GAMES OF SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 16TH)
_________________________________________________________________
Points Previous
1 Kansas (68) (25-1) 1,748 1
2 Minnesota (2) (22-2) 1,649 3
3 Kentucky (24-3) 1,622 4
4 Wake Forest (20-3) 1,512 2
5 Utah (19-3) 1,447 5
6 Duke (21-5) 1,438 6
7 Iowa State (18-4) 1,264 9
8 Clemson (20-5) 1,247 7
9 South Carolina (18-6) 1,129 12
10 New Mexico (20-4) 1,091 13
11 Cincinnati (19-5) 996 8
12 North Carolina (17-6) 906 16
13 Arizona (16-6) 882 11
14 Maryland (19-6) 874 10
15 Louisville (19-5) 707 17
16 Xavier, OH (18-4) 646 19
17 UCLA (15-7) 565 24
18 Michigan (17-7) 558 14
19 Villanova (18-7) 320 18
20 Stanford (15-6) 319 22
21 Colorado (17-7) 268 15
22 College of Charleston (23-2) 252 25
23 Illinois (18-7) 249 20
24 Indiana (20-7) 186 --
25 California (18-6) 171 --
Other receiving votes: Georgia 119, Texas Tech 97, St.
Joseph'84, Providence 63, Hawaii 58, Tulsa 47, Massachusetts
38 New Orleans 36, Princeton 25, Wisconsin 23, NC-Charlotte 20,
Iow19, Tulane 12, Texas 11, Southern California 10, Pacific 8,
BostoCollege 5, Bowling Green 5, Rhode Island 5, Arkansas 4,
Templ4, Fresno St. 3, Miami 3, Illinois St. 2, Long Island U.
1 Memphis 1, Oral Roberts 1.
The USA Today-CNN Top 25
______________________________________________________________________
The USA TODAY/CNN Coaches Top 25 college poll, with number of
first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and last
week's ranking: (THRU GAMES OF SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 16TH)
_________________________________________________________________
Points Previous
1 Kansas (28) (25-1) 748 1
2 Minnesota (2) (22-2) 701 3
3 Kentucky (24-3) 684 4
4 Wake Forest (20-3) 681 2
5 Utah (19-3) 612 5
6 Duke (21-5) 593 7
7 Clemson (20-5) 561 6
8 Iowa State (18-4) 503 9
9 South Carolina (18-6) 499 13
10 New Mexico (20-4) 459 12
11 Cincinnati (19-5) 417 8
12 Arizona (16-6) 412 11
13 Maryland (19-6) 386 10
14 North Carolina (17-6) 355 17
15 Louisville (19-5) 310 15
16 Michigan (17-7) 302 14
17 Xavier, OH (18-4) 231 19
18 Villanova (18-7) 195 18
19 UCLA (15-7) 192 25
20 Colorado (17-7) 165 16
21 Illinois (18-7) 134 21
22 Stanford (15-6) 117 22
23 Texas Tech (15-7) 74 20
24 Coll of Charleston (23-2) 69 NR
25 Indiana (20-7) 59 NR
OtherReceiving Votes: Tulsa 41, New Orleans 32, Tulane 30,
Providenc26, Hawaii 19, California 18, Boston College 17,
NortherArizona 17, Illinois State 14, Princeton 14, Georgia
11 Pacific 9, South Alabama 9, St. Joseph's 9, Iowa 5,
Mississipp5, NC Charlotte 5, Texas 4, Massachusetts 3,
Marquett1, Rhode Island 1, West Virginia 1.
Droppeout: No. 23 Tulane (16-9), No. 24 Tulsa (19-7)
|
| 14.1927 | don't care about power rankings, that'd dumb | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Feb 18 1997 15:57 | 5 |
|
Three teams with equal or better BE records than 'nova, yet
only they are ranked.
- Sean
|
| 14.1928 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Tue Feb 18 1997 16:13 | 2 |
|
I like Duke to win it all this year.
|
| 14.1929 | AP top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Feb 24 1997 15:32 | 45 |
|
The Associated Press Top 25
______________________________________________________________________
The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with number of
first-place votes and this season's records in parentheses, total
points and previous ranking: (THROUGH GAMES OF SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD)
_________________________________________________________________
Points Previous
1 Kansas (68) (27-1) 1,748 1
2 Minnesota (2) (24-2) 1,658 2
3 Kentucky (26-3) 1,629 3
4 Utah (20-3) 1,499 5
5 Wake Forest (21-4) 1,438 4
6 South Carolina (21-6) 1,374 9
7 Duke (22-6) 1,334 6
8 North Carolina (19-6) 1,234 12
9 Cincinnati (22-5) 1,208 11
10 UCLA (17-7) 996 17
11 New Mexico (21-5) 982 10
12 Clemson (20-7) 973 8
13 Iowa State (18-6) 877 7
14 Xavier, OH (20-4) 853 16
15 Arizona (17-7) 716 13
16 Maryland (20-7) 698 14
17 Louisville (21-6) 626 14
18 Villanova (20-7) 564 19
19 Colorado (19-7) 499 21
20 College of Charleston (25-2) 386 22
21 Illinois (18-8) 247 23
22 Indiana (21-8) 181 24
23 St. Joseph's (19-6) 142 --
24 Michigan (17-9) 131 18
25 Stanford (16-7) 108 20
Otherreceiving votes: Georgia 87, California 76, Iowa 74,
Tuls62, Princeton 49, Wisconsin 48, Texas Tech 35, Purdue 30,
N.CCharlotte 28, Providence 27, Texas 22, New Orleans 18,
Massachusett16, Hawaii 15, Marquette 12, Pacific 11, Temple 9,
Mississipp5, Tulane 5, Illinois State 4, South Alabama 4,
FresnState 2, Oklahoma 2, Southern California 2, Bowling Green
1 Long Island University 1, Oral Roberts 1, Oregon 1, SW
MissourState 1, Vanderbilt 1
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| 14.1930 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | SI Swimsuit Issue Contest Winner!! | Mon Feb 24 1997 15:44 | 4 |
|
hard to believe that Georgetown and Syracuse can't even muster up one vote.
mc
|
| 14.1931 | Top 100 RPI | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Feb 24 1997 17:00 | 117 |
| ______________________________________________________________________
RPI college basketball ratings
_______________________________________________________________________
The Rating Percentage Index (RPI) has been used by the NCAA since 1981
to supplement the selection of at-large teams and the seeding of all
teams for the NCAA basketball tournament. This list is an independent
duplication of the RPI without input from the NCAA, which does not
release the RPI to the public. It is derived from three component
factors: Division I winning percentage (FI, 25%), schedule strength
(FII, 50%); and opponent's schedule strength (FIII, 25%). Games
against non-Division I opponents are not used in calculating the RPI.
Through Feb. 22
Rank, team W L FII RPI
1. Kansas 26 1 .5868 .6752
2. Kentucky 25 3 .6089 .6669
3. Minnesota 23 2 .5752 .6560
4. Wake Forest 21 4 .6007 .6522
5. Duke 22 5 .6073 .6474
6. North Carolina 19 6 .6167 .6408
7. Clemson 20 6 .6157 .6392
8. Villanova 18 7 .6267 .6297
9. Cincinnati 22 5 .5703 .6225
10. Utah 19 3 .5379 .6205
11. South Carolina 20 6 .5773 .6168
12. Indiana 21 8 .5865 .6129
13. New Mexico 20 5 .5619 .6116
14. Maryland 20 7 .5705 .6109
15. Louisville 21 6 .5547 .6096
16. UCLA 16 7 .6014 .6093
17. Arizona 17 7 .5837 .6054
18. St. Joseph's 19 6 .5577 .6043
19. Texas 15 9 .6125 .6036
20. California 19 7 .5684 .6030
21. Texas Tech 16 8 .5946 .6012
22. Tulsa 20 8 .5679 .5997
23. Purdue 14 10 .6353 .5988
24. Virginia 16 11 .6195 .5981
25. Michigan 17 8 .5753 .5976
26. Illinois 18 8 .5784 .5974
27. Vanderbilt 16 9 .6034 .5974
28. Massachusetts 16 10 .6114 .5973
29. Rhode Island 16 8 .5913 .5960
30. Temple 16 8 .5801 .5948
31. Georgia 19 7 .5486 .5945
32. Xavier 20 4 .5045 .5941
33. Colorado 19 7 .5463 .5936
34. Wisconsin 16 7 .5581 .5922
35. Iowa 17 8 .5666 .5898
36. Hawaii 19 5 .5213 .5890
37. UNC Charlotte 17 6 .5382 .5880
38. Princeton 20 3 .4912 .5876
39. Providence 18 8 .5529 .5874
40. Boston U. 21 4 .4924 .5802
41. Stanford 14 7 .5627 .5801
42. Boston College 17 7 .5315 .5795
43. Iowa St. 18 6 .5085 .5788
44. UNLV 18 7 .5308 .5777
45. Arkansas 14 9 .5784 .5774
46. Nebraska 15 12 .6059 .5767
47. Oklahoma St. 14 12 .6204 .5765
48. Connecticut 14 10 .5919 .5764
49. Southwest MO St 21 7 .5184 .5755
50. Mississippi 15 7 .5409 .5755
51. Oregon 15 8 .5561 .5750
52. Southern Cal 14 9 .5710 .5749
53. West Virginia 16 8 .5403 .5742
54. Oklahoma 16 8 .5386 .5728
55. Oral Roberts 16 5 .5043 .5725
56. Texas Christian 17 10 .5673 .5724
57. Syracuse 17 10 .5568 .5704
58. Illinois State 20 5 .4758 .5697
59. Charleston 23 2 .4499 .5689
60. Fresno St. 17 10 .5555 .5679
61. New Orleans 21 5 .4887 .5676
62. Tulane 15 9 .5623 .5674
63. Colorado St. 15 8 .5513 .5672
64. Bowling Green 19 7 .5092 .5661
65. Florida St. 14 9 .5487 .5646
66. Georgetown 16 8 .5197 .5625
67. Marquette 16 7 .5086 .5586
68. St. John's 12 13 .6012 .5573
69. Notre Dame 13 11 .5721 .5567
70. Valparaiso 19 5 .4754 .5556
71. Drexel 20 7 .4924 .5552
72. Alabama 14 12 .5712 .5549
73. Memphis 14 13 .5798 .5534
74. N. C. State 10 13 .6069 .5533
75. Miami-FL 15 9 .5227 .5529
76. Geo. Washington 13 11 .5655 .5514
77. Northern Iowa 15 10 .5370 .5507
78. Nevada 16 7 .4994 .5493
79. South Alabama 18 5 .4602 .5469
80. Missouri 12 14 .5919 .5468
81. Evansville 16 13 .5595 .5467
82. Baylor 16 10 .5148 .5467
83. Washington 14 8 .5023 .5452
84. E. Michigan 15 8 .5115 .5440
85. LIU 18 8 .5029 .5440
86. Pittsburgh 12 13 .5756 .5430
87. Georgia Tech 9 15 .6161 .5425
88. Michigan St. 13 10 .5210 .5404
89. Ohio University 15 8 .5024 .5403
90. Texas El Paso 9 12 .6042 .5395
91. Miami-OH 15 8 .5044 .5389
92. Bradley 14 11 .5325 .5378
93. Iona 21 6 .4449 .5375
94. New Mexico St. 13 8 .5114 .5372
95. N. Arizona 17 4 .4250 .5364
96. St. Bonaventure 13 11 .5372 .5361
97. St. Mary's 18 7 .4649 .5357
98. Santa Clara 16 10 .5206 .5357
99. Utah St. 15 7 .4811 .5353
100. East Carolina 15 9 .5103 .5343
|
| 14.1932 | another prediction | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Feb 25 1997 13:33 | 157 |
|
Updated Blue Ribbon NCAA prediction
By Joe Lunardi
Special to ESPNET SportsZone
_________________________________________________________________
This is the fourth in a series for ESPNET SportsZone as the adidas
Blue Ribbon tournament preview edition projects the 1997 NCAA men's
basketball tournament. A "sneak preview" of each week's projections is
available Sunday night on ESPN Radio.
East Regional
March 13 & 15/Winston-Salem
(6) Colorado vs. (11) AMERICA EAST/Boston University
(3) Cincinnati vs. (14) MCC/Butler
(7) Massachusetts vs. (10) Vanderbilt
(2) North Carolina vs. (15) PATRIOT/Navy
March 14 & 16/Pittsburgh
(1) Minnesota vs. (16) MEAC/Coppin State
(8) Georgia vs. (9) Temple
(5) Maryland vs. (12) MAC/Bowling Green
(4) Villanova vs. (13) SUN BELT/South Alabama
Southeast Regional
March 13 & 15/Memphis
(1) Kentucky vs. (16) OVC/Murray State
(8) Providence vs. (9) Michigan
(5) St. Joseph's vs. (12) Oklahoma
(4) Arizona vs. (13) BIG WEST/Nevada
March 14 & 16/Charlotte
(6) Purdue vs. (11) Boston College
(3) New Mexico vs. (14) BIG SKY/Northern Arizona
(7) Texas vs. (10) UNC-Charlotte
(2) Duke vs. (15) SOUTHERN/Tennessee-Chattanooga
Midwest Regional
March 13 & 15/Auburn Hills
(1) Kansas vs. (16) SOUTHLAND/Southwest Texas State
(8) Iowa vs. (9) Virginia
(5) Tulsa vs. (12) MVC/Illinois State
(4) California vs. (13) MID-CONTINENT/Valparaiso
March 14 & 16/Kansas City
(6) Xavier vs. (11) Syracuse
(3) Clemson vs. (14) NORTHEAST/Long Island
(7) Illinois vs. (10) Hawaii
(2) South Carolina vs. (15) COLONIAL/N.C.-Wilmington
West Regional
March 13 & 15/Salt Lake City
(1) Wake Forest vs. (16) SWAC/Mississippi Valley State
(8) Texas Tech vs. (9) Rhode Island
(5) Indiana vs. (12) TAAC/Charleston
(4) Louisville vs. (13) MAAC/Iona
March 14 & 16/Tucson
(6) Wisconsin vs. (11) Mississippi
(3) UCLA vs. (14) WCC/St. Mary's
(7) Iowa State vs. (10) PRINCETON
(2) Utah vs. (15) BIG SOUTH/North Carolina-Asheville
Last four teams included:
Boston College
Mississippi
Syracuse
Oklahoma
Last Four Teams Excluded:
West Virginia
Stanford
UNLV
Southwest Missouri State
Notable
Wake Forest's mini-slump raises the possibility of the Demon Deacons
losing the No. 1 seed in the East Region. In fact, a win by Duke at
UCLA would have propelled the Blue Devils to that spot in this week's
projections.
As it stands, Big Ten champion-to-be Minnesota has surpassed Wake
among the elite -- for now -- and is granted the geographically easier
East Region, while Wake Forest is moved West. Duke and North Carolina,
meanwhile, are No. 2 seeds in Charlotte and Winston-Salem,
respectively, draws which each school would likely consider as
favorable as a No. 1 seed.
Ultimately, we expect one of the ACC heavyweights to break from the
pack and regain the No. 1 seed in the East Region. This week, however,
there is no clear-cut candidate.
In the Southeast Region, might there be a story line for a potential
second-round matchup between Arizona and St. Joseph's? You may recall
that it was Lute Olson's Wildcats -- citing a dubious weather forecast
-- who refused to travel to Philadelphia for an ESPN2 date with the
Hawks last season.
Virginia again remains a potential trouble spot for the NCAA
Selection Committee. It would clarify matters if the Cavaliers won
their final ACC game (March 2 vs. Maryland) to reach a conference
record of 7-9. That mark would be more in line with the Cavs' high RPI
(No. 24).
There is virtually nothing to separate Big 12 at-large candidates
Iowa State, Texas and Texas Tech. Iowa State has the best record, but
has played by far the weakest schedule of any national contender. The
two Texas schools, meanwhile, continue to fight it out in the
conference's South Division.
Just a reminder that UNC-Charlotte can play at the Charlotte
Coliseum in the first and second rounds (as projected this week).
Though not scheduled there this week, Michigan could also be slotted
for the Palace at Auburn Hills.
No team moves on or off the bubble more frequently than Boston
College. After an "off" week, the Eagles are again "on" the bubble.
The Big East continues to lose ground, at least for the moment, in
the at-large pool. However, West Virginia, Connecticut and Georgetown
are each just one hot week away from being back in the field.
Biggest winners this week (either in making the field or in moving
up the seeding charts): Minnesota, North Carolina, UCLA, New Mexico,
California, St. Joseph's, Wisconsin, Purdue, Rhode Island, Syracuse,
Mississippi and Oklahoma.
Biggest losers (down the chart or off the board entirely): Wake
Forest, Clemson, Indiana, Iowa State, Michigan, Boston College,
Stanford and Miami (Fla.).
Major conference breakdown: ACC (6); Atlantic 10 (5); Big East (4);
Big Ten (7); Big 12 (6); C-USA (3); Pac-10 (3); SEC (5); WAC (4).
In the case of conferences likely to earn only an automatic bid
(indicated with ALL CAPS), the current regular season standings leader
has been listed. Same for teams (e.g. PRINCETON) which have already
clinched an automatic bid.
Author Joe Lunardi may be reached on the Internet at
"jlunardi@sju.edu".
To order the 1997 adidas Blue Ribbon Tournament Preview, call
1-800-828-HOOP (4667). This 80-page volume is prepared on Selection
Sunday and shipped via Priority Mail in time for the March 13th first
round games.
Cost, including shipping, is just $9.95 (overnight service is also
available and encouraged). And visit our Tournament Guide Internet
site at www.bookworld.com/bball3.htm".
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| 14.1933 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | Sans Doute | Tue Feb 25 1997 13:59 | 4 |
| Ttom,
You going to be at Charlotte for the first rounders?
billte
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| 14.1934 | caint say | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Feb 25 1997 14:11 | 10 |
| I caint say right now.
I got the form but right now I have a_outta towner project on the
tentative schedule.
For any who are insterested, it's a 6 game package for 75 bucks, a hail
of a deal. 4 games Friday, 2 on Sunday, and the winners move on the Sweet
16.
TTom
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| 14.1935 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Feb 25 1997 16:20 | 10 |
|
They're still tickets? Last couple of years, they've been
selling out faster and faster in the East, even for the first
rounds.
This is the first year I'm doing the Regionals instead (3
games for $60 in Syracuse) - less games, but hopefully
better contests.
- Sean
|
| 14.1936 | dunno | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Feb 25 1997 16:24 | 3 |
| Actually, I haven't check thised weekend so this whole thang may be moot.
TTom
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| 14.1937 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | SI Swimsuit Issue Contest Winner!! | Tue Feb 25 1997 16:37 | 5 |
|
TTom you should be all set. Dean can't play there in the first round so most
of the folks down there will stay home........
mike
|
| 14.1938 | I heard 'at | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Feb 25 1997 16:48 | 10 |
| You said a mouthful there, partner.
It's a well established fack that Tar Heels are not only not sprots fans
they're not even college hoops fans. If'n it aint Dean and his baby blue
boys, they don't wanna hear about it.
One effect of this is that we always miss the firsted half hour of any
noon game shown by CBS. It's the Dean Smith Show, dontcha know.
TTom
|
| 14.1939 | Party in Carolina! | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Tue Feb 25 1997 16:57 | 5 |
| Cain we all stay at your house, TTom? Some of us will sleep in the
Winnebago, but we need a hookup for the shower and maybe a place for
the gas grill.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1940 | I'll need some notice | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Feb 25 1997 17:26 | 10 |
| with apologies to Robert Earl Keen, _Merry Christmas from the Family_:
Fran and Rita came from Harlequin
Can't remember how I'm kin to them
When they plugged the motor home in
It blew out the Christmas lights
Y'all let me know when you're coming so I can be sure to be elsewhere :=]
TTom
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| 14.1941 | Carolina here we come! | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | regnaD kciN, my hero | Tue Feb 25 1997 17:49 | 7 |
| Why do I have visions of Chevy Chase (Ttom) playing host to his
relatives (northern Deccie's), like in the "Christmas Vacation" movie?
"We'll be leaving in a couple of weeks, but don't worry, we have the
Winnebago!"
UMDan
|
| 14.1942 | I can see it | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Feb 25 1997 17:53 | 5 |
| I can just see it now, Nazz outside in his robe, with a beer, pumping the
sludge into the sewage run off lettin us all know that the sheeters
broke.
TTom
|
| 14.1943 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Tue Feb 25 1997 18:18 | 1 |
| btw - yet another Vacation sequel is coming out soon.
|
| 14.1944 | let me wager a guess | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Feb 25 1997 18:20 | 9 |
| I bet it's about Vegas ;=]
They've been re-running the original one a lot, lately. A Classic, to be
sure.
I like how it's Chevy and Beverly D'Angelo and the children keep changing
but they're all still the Griswalds.
TTom
|
| 14.1945 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Tue Feb 25 1997 18:22 | 3 |
| Beverly hasn't changed too much. 8*)
Jimbo
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| 14.1946 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Tue Feb 25 1997 19:21 | 1 |
| neither has Chevy, he's still a geek.
|
| 14.1947 | This one got surprizingly good reviews | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Wed Feb 26 1997 14:05 | 6 |
| Best line in the new movie has to be the one I saw in a promo where
Chase says "The kids are growing up so fast, I can't hardly recognize
them." Which of course, is hilarious, since they're new kids in every
"Vacation" movie.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1948 | Dull like European Vacation | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Wed Feb 26 1997 14:07 | 2 |
| Went to the Vegas Vacation movie last weekend. It was a disappointing
dud.
|
| 14.1949 | thanks for the info | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Wed Feb 26 1997 14:15 | 9 |
| > -< Dull like European Vacation >-
This is a very useful part of a movie review. When you think a movie's a
dud, let the reader know a similar movie than they can have a frame of
reference.
For me, any movie that's dull like European Vacation is worth seeing.
TTom
|
| 14.1950 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Bang! Bang! Bang! | Wed Feb 26 1997 15:16 | 11 |
|
IMO, the first Vacation movie was hysterical but every one
since has been progressively lamer. You could probably say
the same about every Chevy Chase movie period. Generally,
the clips that you see promoting a movie are some of the
funniest bits. If that's true of the Vegas Vacation movie
then that is one unfunny movie. It's hard to say whose career
is in a deeper toilet - Chevy Chase who is rehashing the same
role over and over or Dennis Miller who is reduced to playing
second fiddle to a M&M.
|
| 14.1951 | police patrol on watch | MKOTS3::BREEN | Sans Doute | Wed Feb 26 1997 15:25 | 5 |
| >since they're new kids in every "Vacation" movie.
Here is the newest in the long there/their/they're wars
I think this was there are new kids but it took awhile.
|
| 14.1952 | where did you pool that one from | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Wed Feb 26 1997 15:30 | 0 |
| 14.1953 | As of today | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Mon Mar 03 1997 15:18 | 29 |
| Here's my second, updated effort at putting together the NCAA tourney
bracket. I'm assuming that Duke wins the ACC tourney, and that the ACC
is such a strong league that the winner of their tourney should get a
#1 seed, thus SOuth Carolina and Kentucky slip to #2 seeds.
EAST SOUTHEAST MIDWEST WEST
1. Duke 1. Kansas 1. Minnesota 1. Utah
2. South Carolina 2. North Caro. 2. Wake Forest 2. Kentucky
3. Cincinnati 3. Xavier 3. New Mexico 3. UCLA
4. St. Joseph's 4. Clemson 4. Arizona 4. Stanford
5. Villanova 5. Louisville 5. Colorado 5. Iowa State
6. Coll/Charleston 6. Illinois 6. Indiana 6. UMass
7. Boston College 7. Georgetown 7. Texas Tech 7. Maryland
8. Tulane 8. Purdue 8. Providence 8. Iowa
9. Michigan 9. Rhode Island 9. Mississippi 9. Virginia
10. Temple 10. Texas 10. Washington 10. Illinois St.
11. Tulsa 11. New Orleans 11. NC-Charlotte 11. Hawaii
12. Princeton 12. East Carolina 12. Marquette 12. Georgia
13. Boston U. 13. Bowling Green 13. Murray State 13. No. Arizona
14. Long Island U. 14. Valparaiso 14. Tenn.-Chatt. 14. Pacific
15. Iona 15. Coppin State 15. Butler 15. Gonzaga
16. Colgate 16. Charleston So.16. SW Texas St. 16. Miss. Valley
Remember, no team can play another from its own conference before the
regional final.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1954 | | CSC32::MACGREGOR | Colorado: the TRUE mid-west | Mon Mar 03 1997 16:40 | 8 |
|
>Remember, no team can play another from its own conference before the
>regional final.
I've always wondered what would happen if a conference sent 9 teams.
Marc
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| 14.1955 | Not worth worrying about | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Mon Mar 03 1997 17:29 | 6 |
| If there were nine teams from one conference I guess you would put
numbers 8 & 9 on a collison course to meet in the third round and then
hope that one or both couldn't win two games.
It seems like you would have to have a conference the size of the WAC
to have nine teams from one conference even a remote possibility.
|
| 14.1956 | AP Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Mar 03 1997 18:17 | 43 |
|
The Associated Press Top 25
______________________________________________________________________
The Associated Press Top 25 college basketball poll, with number of
first-place votes and this season's records in parentheses, total
points and previous ranking: (THROUGH GAMES OF SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD)
_________________________________________________________________
Points Previous
1 Kansas (68) (27-1) 1,748 1
2 Minnesota (2) (24-2) 1,658 2
3 Kentucky (26-3) 1,629 3
4 Utah (20-3) 1,499 5
5 Wake Forest (21-4) 1,438 4
6 South Carolina (21-6) 1,374 9
7 Duke (22-6) 1,334 6
8 North Carolina (19-6) 1,234 12
9 Cincinnati (22-5) 1,208 11
10 UCLA (17-7) 996 17
11 New Mexico (21-5) 982 10
12 Clemson (20-7) 973 8
13 Iowa State (18-6) 877 7
14 Xavier, OH (20-4) 853 16
15 Arizona (17-7) 716 13
16 Maryland (20-7) 698 14
17 Louisville (21-6) 626 14
18 Villanova (20-7) 564 19
19 Colorado (19-7) 499 21
20 College of Charleston (25-2) 386 22
21 Illinois (18-8) 247 23
22 Indiana (21-8) 181 24
23 St. Joseph's (19-6) 142 --
24 Michigan (17-9) 131 18
25 Stanford (16-7) 108 20
Otherreceiving votes: Georgia 87, California 76, Iowa 74,
Tuls62, Princeton 49, Wisconsin 48, Texas Tech 35, Purdue 30,
N.CCharlotte 28, Providence 27, Texas 22, New Orleans 18,
Massachusett16, Hawaii 15, Marquette 12, Pacific 11, Temple 9,
Mississipp5, Tulane 5, Illinois State 4, South Alabama 4,
FresnState 2, Oklahoma 2, Southern California 2, Bowling Green
1 Long Island University 1, Oral Roberts 1, Oregon 1, SW
MissourState 1, Vanderbilt 1
|
| 14.1957 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Mon Mar 03 1997 18:22 | 14 |
| I'd say the way they overrate the ACC if say the 9th place team during the
regular won the ACC tournment and the others in the league had a good
season.............
How about that play at the end of the Kentucky game that got SLick Rick tossed?
excellent call imo. Even better that it happened in Kentucky. For those that
missed it. SOuth Carolina was up 2 with 3 seconds left and were inbounding
the ball under the Kentucky basket. One of the Gamecockers ran behind the
endline the other 'cockers tossed him the ball and then cut along the baseline
towards the guy he just passed to. One of the 'Cats tryed to step in front of
him but was too slow in doing so. He stuck his shoulder into the 'cocker and
did a flop no call. SLick Rick cried and got tossed........
mc
|
| 14.1958 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | When the warships come back to Manila | Mon Mar 03 1997 18:29 | 5 |
| It looked like the gamecock was still out of bounds when the contact
was made, a pretty tough call to argue about.
Ain't it sweet when Kentucky loses and Pitino gets bounced on the same
stroll thru the living room.
|
| 14.1959 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Mon Mar 03 1997 18:30 | 5 |
|
First team ALL-Americans: Tim Duncan, Antione Jaminson, Keith Van Horne,
Ron Mercer, and Victor Page..........
Duncan POY.............
|
| 14.1960 | Antawn the Main | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Mar 03 1997 18:34 | 6 |
| Small nit: Antawn Jamison, pronounced Antwan.
And after Mercer, he may have the best up side of anyone else in this
group. He had a nifty 34 point-11 rebound game against Duke yesterday.
TTom
|
| 14.1961 | Ever hear of Breven Knight | MKOTS3::BREEN | When the warships come back to Manila | Mon Mar 03 1997 18:35 | 1 |
| Victor Page, Mikey you are one hilarious guy.
|
| 14.1962 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 03 1997 19:16 | 27 |
|
> <<< Note 14.1954 by CSC32::MACGREGOR "Colorado: the TRUE mid-west" >>>
>
> >Remember, no team can play another from its own conference before the
> >regional final.
>
> I've always wondered what would happen if a conference sent 9 teams.
>
> Marc
Deja-vu! :^)
<<< CAM::$1$DUA5:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SPORTS.NOTE;1 >>>
-< SPORTS >-
================================================================================
Note 14.1917 College Basketball 1917 of 1961
-< :^) >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Remember, no team can play another from its own conference before the
> regional final.
What if a conference sends 9 teams?
- Sean
|
| 14.1963 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Mon Mar 03 1997 19:16 | 7 |
|
I've heard of him but I've yet to see him play. I just vote on guys I've
seen. Unfortunately this year has been tough for viewing. This year I've
watched less college hoops games than any other years since I awoke from
the fog of the seventies.
mc
|
| 14.1964 | | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 03 1997 21:23 | 42 |
| 1. Duke 1. Kansas 1. Minnesota 1. Utah
2. South Carolina 2. North Caro. 2. Wake Forest 2. Kentucky
3. Cincinnati 3. Xavier 3. New Mexico 3. UCLA
4. St. Joseph's 4. Clemson 4. Arizona 4. Stanford
5. Villanova 5. Louisville 5. Colorado 5. Iowa State
6. Coll/Charleston 6. Illinois 6. Indiana 6. UMass
7. Boston College 7. Georgetown 7. Texas Tech 7. Maryland
8. Tulane 8. Purdue 8. Providence 8. Iowa
9. Michigan 9. Rhode Island 9. Mississippi 9. Virginia
10. Temple 10. Texas 10. Washington 10. Illinois St.
11. Tulsa 11. New Orleans 11. NC-Charlotte 11. Hawaii
12. Princeton 12. East Carolina 12. Marquette 12. Georgia
13. Boston U. 13. Bowling Green 13. Murray State 13. No. Arizona
14. Long Island U. 14. Valparaiso 14. Tenn.-Chatt. 14. Pacific
15. Iona 15. Coppin State 15. Butler 15. Gonzaga
16. Colgate 16. Charleston So.16. SW Texas St. 16. Miss. Valley
Nazz,
Interesting. I think if either Kentucky or South Carolina win the
SEC, they get a #1 along with the ACC champ, Kansas, and Minnesota.
Colgate is out, as Navy meets Bucknell in the PL title game.
Iona is out; they lost in round 1 to Fairfield, who meets Canisius for
the MAAC title.
ECU is out; Old DOminion meets James Madison for the CAA title.
Gonzaga is out; St.Mary's meets San Fransisco for the WCC title.
Michigan has lost 7 of 9, and have only Ohio State and Northwestern
left (no bonus for the RPI there); they are very much in danger.
St.Joseph's won't get a #4 seed over Maryland unless they get to the
A-10 finals, which is not a lock. Xavier and St.Joseph's won't
both be in the top 4 seeds.
Stanford has really stubled; if they get in, it'll be down around a
9-10 seeding.
UNO is very iffy after losing to Louisiana Tech in the Sun Belt tourney
(BTW, either South Alabama or Louisiana Tech goes as Sun Belt champs).
Tulsa will be seeded higher than where you have them, as will Princeton.
Charleston, UMass will be seeded lower (if UMass gets in).
Marquette and Washington are not going to get in to the tournament.
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| 14.1965 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 03 1997 22:42 | 6 |
|
I don't see BU getting a 13 seed, but maybe. I hope they get
in whatever bracket the Minnesota is in. With a Big 10 at #1,
they'd actually have a shot, even if seeded #16!
- Sean
|
| 14.1966 | Just a rough draft! | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Tue Mar 04 1997 13:24 | 13 |
| Guess I shoulda paid more attention to all these conference tourneys
before sending out a guess!
I agree that Michigan is in trouble, but I think they will get the nod
over Wisconsin if they win both games this weekend.
I disagree with you that St. Joe's won't get a #4 seed. I actually
had Xavier ranked lower than St. Joe's, but because I had to move a
team that was in the same bracket as another from the same conference,
I had no one left to put in that #3 seed spot, so I stuck Xavuer there!
Very scientific!
NAZZ
|
| 14.1967 | who's in, fer sure | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:06 | 39 |
| Here's the tourney champs so far.
Princeton, Minnesota and UCLA have also qualified by winning their no
tourney conferences.
Big South
Championship
Saturday, March 1
Charleston Southern 64, Liberty 54
Colonial
Championship
Monday, March 3
Old Dominion 62, James Madison 58
Metro Atlantic
Championship
Monday, March 3
Fairfield 78, Canisius 72
Missouri Valley
Championship
Monday, March 3
Illinois State 75, Southwest Missouri State 72
Ohio Valley
Championship
Saturday, March 1
Murray State 88, Austin Peay 85 (OT)
Southern
Championship
Sunday, March 2
Tennessee-Chattanooga 71, Marshall 70 (OT)
Trans America
Championship
Saturday, March 1
College of Charleston 83, Florida International 73
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| 14.1968 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:15 | 37 |
|
GO FAIRFIELD!!!! Last place in a loser conference but GOIN' TO
THE NCAA's!!! Last seed in their tourney, 11-18 on the year
(but the last 3 were biggies!)! Poor Iona, ha!
This is why I love college basketball!
Metro Atlantic Conference Regular Season Standings
Conference Overall
W L PCT. W L PCT.
Iona 11 3 .786 22 6 .786
Canisius 10 4 .714 15 11 .577
Loyola (Md.) 10 4 .714 13 13 .500
St Peters 9 5 .643 12 14 .462
Niagara 5 9 .357 10 16 .385
Manhattan 5 9 .357 9 17 .346
Siena 4 10 .286 9 17 .346
Fairfield 2 12 .143 8 18 .308
METRO ATLANTIC ATHLETIC CONFERENCE TOURNEY
(at Marine Midland Arena, Buffalo, NY)
Saturday, March 1
(8) Fairfield 80, (1) Iona 71
(4) St. Peter's 51, (5) Manhattan 48
(2) Canisius 84, (7) Siena 44
(6) Niagara 53, (3) Loyola, MD 43
Sunday, March 2
(8) Fairfield 73, (4) St. Peter's 61
(2) Canisius 78, (6) Niagara 59
Monday, March 3
(8) Fairfield 78, (2) Canisius 72
|
| 14.1969 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:17 | 12 |
| I don't know if anyone caught it but the end of the Murray State
Austin P game was great. Don't ask me why I had it on but I was
surfing and it was close. These guys went up and down in OT.....
Great comeback by Okie State to beat Iowa State also. Iowa State up
by 15 or so with 15 left goes into a semi 4 corners and before you know
it here comes Okie State. The master of letting teams back in the
game John Thompson would have been proud.
Jimbo
|
| 14.1970 | help 'em out | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:18 | 9 |
| >Poor Iona, ha!
Indeed. Iona went from no chance in the NCAAs to some chance in the NITs.
It'll be a short trip, to boot.
As for Fairfield, I guess their fans don't have to worry about all the
sophomores going pros ;-}
TTom
|
| 14.1971 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:21 | 5 |
|
I know no #16 ever beat a #1 seed, but who was the #16 that
almost did it against Purdue (last year, 2 years ago?)?
- Sean
|
| 14.1972 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:22 | 13 |
| Fairfield was picked as preseason favorite, choked all year and still
gets to the dance. At least one team from Connecticut is going 8*(
Uconn faces an interesting challenge. Pitt has already beaten them
twice this year, followed by BC who they haven't lost to in many
years, followed by the 1 dimensional Hoya club, followed by the upset
of an uninspired Nova effort and the Huskies will be in the dance!!!!\
Hey it could happen...
Jimbo
|
| 14.1973 | Paul Cormier a Rollie Mass protege | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:22 | 3 |
| Interesting sidelight about Fairfield is that they are coached by a
former Lexington ( Ma. ) High player from Rollie Massimino's years as
the Coach at Lexington High
|
| 14.1974 | ESPN's opinion | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:29 | 161 |
|
Final Blue Ribbon NCAA prediction
By Joe Lunardi
Special to ESPNET SportsZone
_________________________________________________________________
The Blue Ribbon Tournament Preview edition projects the 1997 NCAA
men's basketball championship through games of March 2.
East Regional
March 13 & 15/Winston-Salem
(1) Duke vs. (16) PATRIOT/tournament champion
(8) Wisconsin vs. (9) College of Charleston
(5) St. Joseph's vs. (12) AMERICA EAST/tournament champion
(4) Arizona vs. (13) CAA/tournament champion [OLD DOMINION]
March 14 & 16/Pittsburgh
(6) Texas Tech vs. (11) MAC/tournament champion
(3) Villanova vs. (14) NORTHEAST/tournament champion
(7) Purdue vs. (10) PRINCETON
(2) South Carolina vs. (15) MAAC/tournament champion [FAIRFIELD]
Southeast Regional
March 13 & 15/Memphis
(1) Kansas vs. (16) SLC/tournament champion
(8) California vs. (9) Mississippi
(5) New Mexico vs. (12) Boston College
(4) Illinois vs. (13) SUN BELT/tournament champion
March 14 & 16/Charlotte
(6) Georgia vs. (11) Oklahoma
(3) Cincinnati vs. (14) BIG SKY/tournament champion
(7) Iowa vs. (10) Rhode Island
(2) Wake Forest vs. (15) CHARLESTON SOUTHERN
Midwest Regional
March 13 & 15/Auburn Hills
(1) MINNESOTA vs. (16) SWAC/tournament champion
(8) Virginia vs. (9) Stanford
(5) Colorado vs. (12) Providence
(4) Tulsa vs. (13) MCC/tournament champion
March 14 & 16/Kansas City
(6) Xavier vs. (11) MVC/tournament champion [ILLINOIS ST]
(3) Clemson vs. (14) MID-CONTINENT/tournament champion
(7) Iowa State vs. (10) West Virginia
(2) Kentucky vs. (15) TENNESSEE-CHATTANOOGA
West Regional
March 13 & 15/Salt Lake City
(6) Indiana vs. (11) Hawaii
(3) UCLA vs. (14) WCC/tournament champion
(7) Texas vs. (10) Georgetown
(2) North Carolina vs. (15) MEAC/tournament champion
March 14 & 16/Tucson
(1) Utah vs. (16) MURRAY STATE
(8) Tulane vs. (9) Massachusetts
(5) Maryland vs. (12) MVC/runner-up
(4) Louisville vs. (13) BIG WEST/tournament champion
Last Four Teams Included:
Oklahoma
Boston College
Providence
MVC/runner-up
Last Four Teams Excluded:
Temple
UNC-Charlotte
Fresno State
Syracuse
Notes
The No. 1 seeds were scrambled this week, particularly with the
losses suffered by Wake Forest and Kentucky. In their places -- for
now -- are Duke (East) and Utah (West), with the upcoming ACC and SEC
tournaments likely to determine the eventual identity of the last two
top seeds.
Kansas and Minnesota are so far ahead of the field, it is extremely
unlikely that either could fall from a No. 1 seed. However, with no
clear-cut SEC team in position to claim the top spot in the Southeast
Region, the "Kansas to the Southeast" scenario finally becomes
plausible.
For those wondering how Duke could be a No. 1 seed after losing at
North Carolina, remember that the Selection Committee has bent over
backward in recent years to reward regular season conference winners
-- and the Blue Devils were outright champions of the nation's
toughest conference.
It will be particularly interesting to learn the seeding of TAAC
champion College of Charleston. Though the Cougars are ranked in the
wire service polls, their RPI is just 59. We split the difference and
placed Charleston in an 8-9 game.
If you think the Big Ten is a jumbled mess, try the Big East. That
conference has two of the final four teams Included (Boston College,
Providence), as well as one of the last four Excluded (Syracuse). It
adds up to high drama this week at Madison Square Garden, along with
the possibility that the Big East could send as few as three teams --
or as many as six -- to the NCAA field.
As mentioned previously, we strongly believe that Hawaii -- if
included in the NCAA field -- will be placed in the West Region. This
week, that scenario means violating one of the "conference conflict"
criteria (e.g., No conference member shall be placed as the same
region as the top-rated team from that conference). However, even with
fellow WAC member Utah also in the West, it seems that any other site
for the Rainbows would place them at a significant disadvantage in
terms of travel.
Someone should mention to Michigan that this is no way for a team
with a 27 RPI to act. The Wolverines need to sweep their final regular
season games just to get back on the bubble, but there are no longer
any guarantees.
Many will ask about Sun Belt co-champion New Orleans in the coming
week. We believe the Privateers -- upset in the conference tournament
semifinals -- will not earn an at-large bid. A dangerously low RPI of
62 and zero Top 25 wins, make the difference.
Biggest winners this week (either in making the field or in moving
up the seeding charts): Duke, Utah, UCLA, Villanova, Tulsa, Illinois,
Virginia, Stanford, Tulane, Mississippi, College of Charleston, West
Virginia and Georgetown.
Biggest losers (down the chart or off the board entirely): Kentucky,
Wake Forest, Maryland, Iowa State, California, Hawaii, Providence,
Temple, UNC-Charlotte, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Michigan and New Orleans.
Major conference breakdown: ACC (6); Atlantic 10 (4); Big East (5);
Big Ten (6); Big 12 (6); C-USA (3); MVC (2); Pac-10 (4); SEC (4); WAC
(4).
Teams which have clinched an automatic bid by Sunday, March 2 (e.g.
Princeton) are listed in ALL CAPS.
A special Championship Week edition of the adidas Blue Ribbon
projections will be available on Thursday, March 6. Then, the final
"for the record" picks for the NCAA field will be posted on the
morning of Selection Sunday, March 9.
Author Joe Lunardi may be reached on the Internet at
"jlunardi@sju.edu".
To order the 1997 adidas Blue Ribbon Tournament Preview, call
1-800-828-HOOP (4667). This 80-page volume is prepared on Selection
Sunday and shipped via Priority Mail in time for the March 13th first
round games.
Cost, including shipping, is just $9.95 (overnight service is also
available and encouraged). And visit our Tournament Guide Internet
site at www.bookworld.com/bball3.htm".
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| 14.1975 | Strategy backfired in '94 with BC over NC | MKOTS3::BREEN | When the warships come back to Manila | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:30 | 16 |
| > followed by the 1 dimensional Hoya club
Just what dimension would that be? Offensive rebounding? Or do you
mean a team that can't play defense.
Georgetown nevertheless could be a team to watch. The BE went
intensely internecine this year but I'm looking for some of them to
break out in the ncaas because of the defense played in the conference.
And MIkey has a point, Victor Page when he tunes it up can ORCHESTRATE.
One tip that sometimes works is the final seedings and matchups where a
sceptic sometimes sees an attempt to clear the way for the ncaa pets.
So if NC,Duke,Kansas are as far away from say the Hoyas and say
Minnesota is matched right up with them that'll tell said cynic
something.
|
| 14.1976 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:42 | 15 |
| If you have to ask you haven't watched to many Hoya games.
option 1 - Page
option 1A - Page
option 2 - Page
.
.
.
option 7 - Page dumps it in to White
As far as shooting guards go in the country, Dujaun Wheat and Page are
the best two I've seen all year, although I guess Wheat is a bit
streakier.
Jimbo
|
| 14.1977 | Ya YA!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:48 | 13 |
|
If any of you have watched G'town (ttom) over the past month you
would have seen an entirely different team. They came into the season
in a lull probably because of all the talent leaving last year. But for
the past 6 weeks, they have been one of the top teams in the country.
My unbiased opinion of course!!! :-)
Chap
|
| 14.1978 | and tell us about the Raiders... | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Tue Mar 04 1997 14:57 | 5 |
| Chap,
You just root for 'em cause the can beat Kent...
TTom
|
| 14.1979 | and then there were 3 more | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Wed Mar 05 1997 13:40 | 12 |
| Three more teams qualified lasted night:
South Alabama beat LA Tech 44-43 to win the Sun Belt.
Valparaiso beat Western Illinois 63-59 to win the Mid-Continent.
Butler beat Illinois-Chicago 69-68 to win the Midwestern Collegiate.
In the Sun Belt, New Orleans was the #1 seed. They have 22 wins which
might draw some interest from the powers that be in the NCAA.
Butler and Valparaiso were both the top seed in their leagues.
TTom
|
| 14.1980 | VALPO! | IMBETR::DUPREZ | A great face for radio... | Wed Mar 05 1997 13:51 | 1 |
|
|
| 14.1981 | trivia | MKOTS3::BREEN | When the warships come back to Manila | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:16 | 11 |
| Trivia question in the local 'graph today was
What team has the most final four ncaa appearances without a
championship. The answer it gave and the total () leads me to believe
the question was simply most appearances. I'd be curious to know the
answer to the original question and would guess Syracuse.
Answer given by 'graph
Notre Dame (26)
|
| 14.1982 | My records show ND at 24, dunno how reliable they are | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Wed Mar 05 1997 15:48 | 59 |
|
NCAA Tournament Team Records
MOST APPEARANCES
37 - Kentucky
31 - UCLA
30 - North Carolina
26 - Louisville
25 - Indiana, Kansas
24 - Notre Dame
23 - St. John's, Syracuse
22 - Arkansas, Kansas State, Villanova
MOST CONSECUTIVE APPEARANCES
22 - North Carolina, 1975-96
14 - Georgetown, 1979-92
13 - UCLA, 1967-79
12 - Arizona, 1985-96
11 - Duke, 1984-95; Indiana, 1986-96; Syracuse, 1983-92
10 - LSU, 1984-93; Marquette, 1971-80
9 - Arkansas, 1977-85; Georgia Tech, 1985-93: UNLV, 1983-91
CURRENT MOST CONSECUTIVE APPEARANCES
22 - North Carolina, 1975-96
12 - Arizona, 1985-96
11 - Indiana, 1986-96
9 - Arkansas, 1988-96
8 - UCLA, 1989-96
7 - Kansas and Temple, 1990-96
5 - Cincinnati, Kentucky, Louisville, Massachusetts, and Michigan, 1992-96
MOST TOURNAMENT GAMES
103 - Kentucky, 1942-96
97 - North Carolina, 1941-96
93 - UCLA, 1950-96
79 - Kansas, 1940-96
74 - Duke, 1955-96
73 - Louisville, 1951-96
70 - Indiana, 1940-96
59 - Arkansas, 1945-96
59 - Syracuse, 1957-96
58 - Michigan, 1948-96
53 - Notre Dame, 1953-96
MOST TOURNAMENT WINS
70 - Kentucky
69 - UCLA 67 - North Carolina
56 - Duke
54 - Kansas
50 - Indiana
45 - Louisville
40 - Michigan
37 - Arkansas
36 - Georgetown
|
| 14.1983 | Lefthander out | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | regnaD kciN, my hero | Thu Mar 06 1997 12:03 | 14 |
| Lefty (ah can coach) Driesell was fired as coach of James Madison
University a day after he announced that next season would be his last.
Have lots of great memories associated with the Lefthander from the
70's (73 - 77 to be exact). 4 corners, Brad Davis behind the back
deke, Brian Majid(sp) being greeted with shouts of "Shoot" as soon as
he touched the ball (too bad they didn't have treys back then), great
ACC Tourneys, .....
Hard to believe but the MD basketball program, with the Joe Smith years
and this year seem to have finally pulled away from the Bias tragedy
which happened 11 years ago.
UMDan
|
| 14.1984 | I'll miss 'im | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Thu Mar 06 1997 12:47 | 13 |
| I've always kinda like Lefty.
I'll never forget 74 when State and the Terps played til overtime to
settle the ACC tourney. Maryland ended #2 in the polls and turned down
the NIT while State when on to beat Bill Walton along their way to the
David Thompson Championship.
I think the turning point for Maryland began shortly after Gary Williams
arrived. Then Walt Williams decided to tuff it out through the probation
years. Then Joe Smith put 'em back on the map which continued with Keith
Booth.
TTom
|
| 14.1985 | Navy in | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Thu Mar 06 1997 13:23 | 5 |
| And one more is in...
Navy held off Bucknell 76-75 to win the Patriot League.
TTom
|
| 14.1986 | | WONDER::SEAN | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Thu Mar 06 1997 14:21 | 3 |
|
I was rootin' for Bucknell 'cause they use the Buffalo Bills logo! :^)
|
| 14.1987 | schedule | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Thu Mar 06 1997 15:14 | 95 |
| I noticed that and immediately thought "lawsuit".
Here's today's schedule of events
Atlantic 10
(at the CoreStates Spectrum, Philadelphia)
Quarterfinals
Thursday, March 6
St. Joseph's vs. St. Bonaventure, noon
Rhode Island vs. Virginia Tech, 2:30 p.m.
Xavier vs. Temple, 7 p.m.
George Washington vs. Massachusetts, 9:30 p.m.
ACC
(at Greensboro Coliseum, Greensboro, N.C.)
First round
Thursday, March 6
North Carolina State vs. Georgia Tech, 7:30 p.m.
Big East
(at Madison Square Garden, New York)
Quarterfinals
Thursday, March 6
Villanova vs. Syracuse, noon
Providence vs. West Virginia, 2 p.m.
Georgetown vs. Miami, 7 p.m.
Boston College vs. Pittsburgh, 9 p.m.
Big Sky
(at Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, Ariz.)
Quarterfinals
Thursday, March 6
Montana State vs. Cal State Northridge, 9 p.m.
Weber State vs. Idaho State, 11:30 p.m.
Big 12
(at Kemper Arena, Kansas City, MO)
First round
Thursday, March 6
Baylor vs. Oklahoma State, 1 p.m.
Kansas State vs. Texas Tech, 3:20 p.m.
Missouri vs. Nebraska, 7 p.m.
Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma, 9:20 p.m.
Conference USA
(at Kiel Center, St. Louis)
Quarterfinals
Thursday, March 6
North Carolina-Charlotte vs. Louisville, noon
Tulane vs. UAB, 2:30 p.m.
Cincinnati vs. Saint Louis, 6 p.m.
Memphis vs. Marquette, 8:30 p.m.
Mideastern
(at campus sites)
Thursday, March 6
North Carolina A&T vs. Morgan State, 3 p.m.
Bethune-Cookman vs. Florida A&M, 8 p.m.
Northeast
(at campus sites)
Quarterfinals
Championship
Thursday, March 6
Long Island vs. Monmouth, 4:30 p.m.
SEC
(at The Pyramid, Memphis, Tenn.)
First round
Thursday, March 6
Vanderbilt vs. Mississippi State, 1 p.m.
Alabama vs. Florida, 3:15 p.m.
Auburn vs. Tennessee, 7:30 p.m.
Georgia vs. LSU, 9:45 p.m.
Southwestern
(at Loos Fieldhouse, Dallas)
Quarterfinals
Thursday, March 6
Prarie View A&M vs. Texas Southern, noon
Alcorn State vs. Alabama State/Southern, 2 p.m.
Jackson State vs. Alabama State/Southern, 6 p.m.
Mississippi Valley State vs. Grambling, 8 p.m.
Western Athletic
(at Thomas & Mack Arena, Las Vegas, Nev.)
Quarterfinals
Thursday, March 6
Tulsa vs. UNLV, 3:30 p.m.
Fresno State vs. Texas Christian, 6 p.m.
Utah vs. Southern Methodist, 9 p.m.
Hawaii vs. New Mexico, 11:30 p.m.
|
| 14.1988 | Providence just won | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Thu Mar 06 1997 19:16 | 8 |
| Some updated scores:
Providence 72, West Va. 65 - 34 seconds left
Rhode Island 63, Virginia Tech 59 - 1:49 left
NC Charlotte 64, Louisville 60 - UNCC was down 17 in 2nd half
Vanderbilt 73, Miss. St. 67 Final in OT - Vandy still needs 1 more win
NAZZ
|
| 14.1989 | downed some Virginia's today... | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Thu Mar 06 1997 19:30 | 6 |
|
URI and PC both win!
Li'l Rhody lookin' good!
- Sean
|
| 14.1990 | On DeMarco | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Fri Mar 07 1997 12:35 | 5 |
| > NC Charlotte 64, Louisville 60 - UNCC was down 17 in 2nd half
Local, semi-great win for the Niners. DeMarco Johnson did not disappoint.
TTom
|
| 14.1991 | LIU in | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Fri Mar 07 1997 13:20 | 12 |
| And meanwhile, one more team is in:
Long Island U beat Monmouth 72-67. Playing in a_old music hall, these
guys put on a pretty good show.
Much heralded and formerly troubled Richie Parker had a pretty good game
with about a dozen rebounds and a dozen points. I was pretty unimpressed
with Charles Jones who leads the Div I in scoring.
Monmouth had a Main in the middle, Corey Albano.
TTom
|
| 14.1992 | John Lucas? | YIELD::BARBIERI | | Sun Mar 09 1997 18:38 | 5 |
| Was that Maryland team that lost to NC State the one with
John Lucas? Now there was a player too! (Also good in
tennis.)
Tony
|
| 14.1994 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 10 1997 13:59 | 8 |
|
Congrats to the New England Teams - BU, BC, UMass, URI, and PC
That's gotta be a first.
And congrats to Fairfield but, no, I'm not gonna count them
as NE :^)
|
| 14.1995 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 10 1997 14:00 | 6 |
|
Has Princeton and UMass *EVER* not gotten the East when
they've made the tourney? Somebody up there likes them...
- Sean
|
| 14.1996 | Five out of six | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass is back - watch out NCAA! | Mon Mar 10 1997 14:20 | 4 |
| Couple of years ago UMass was in the Midwest, but every other year it's
been the East. I don't get it either.
NAZZ
|
| 14.1997 | | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Mon Mar 10 1997 14:23 | 2 |
| UMass was in the Midwest about three years ago
|
| 14.1998 | | CAM::WAY | and keep me steadfast | Mon Mar 10 1997 14:29 | 6 |
| > And congrats to Fairfield but, no, I'm not gonna count them
> as NE :^)
Hell, we don't even count them as part of Connecticut.....
|
| 14.1999 | the real pairings | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Mar 10 1997 15:00 | 130 |
|
NCAA Tournament
First and second rounds
East region
* Winston-Salem, N.C., Lawrence Joel Memorial Coliseum, March 13-15
1, North Carolina
16, Fairfield
8, Indiana
9, Colorado
5, California
12, Princeton
4, Villanova
13, Long Island U
* Pittsburgh, Pa., Pittsburgh Civic Arena, March 14-16
6, Louisville
11, Massachusetts
3, New Mexico
14, Old Dominion
7, Wisconsin
10, Texas
2, South Carolina
15, Coppin State
Southeast region
* Memphis, Tenn., The Pyramid, March 13-15
1, Kansas
16, Jackson State
8, Purdue
9, Rhode Island
5, Maryland
12, College of Charleston
4, Arizona
13, South Alabama
* Charlotte, N.C., Charlotte Coliseum, March 14-16
6, Illinois
11, Southern Cal
3, Georgia
14, Tennessee-Chattanooga
7, Marquette
10, Providence
2, Duke
15, Murray State
West region
* Salt Lake City, Utah, John Huntsman Center, March 13-15
1, Kentucky
16, Montana
8, Iowa
9, Virginia
5, Boston College
12, Valparaiso
4, St. Joseph's
13, Pacific
* Tuscon, Ariz., McKale Center, March 14-16
6, Stanford
11, Oklahoma
3, Wake Forest
14, St. Mary's, Calif
7, North Carolina-Charlotte
10, Georgetown
2, Utah
15, Navy
Midwest region
* Kansas City, Mo., Kemper Arena, March 14-16
1, Minnesota
16, Southwest Texas State
8, Mississippi
9, Temple
5, Tulsa
12, Boston University
4, Clemson
13, Miami, Ohio
* Auburn Hills, Mich., The Palace at Auburn Hills, March 13-15
6, Iowa State
11, Illinois State
3, Cincinnati
14, Butler
7, Xavier, Ohio
10, Vanderbilt
2, UCLA
15, Charleston Southern
Regionals
East
* Syracuse, N.Y., Carrier Dome, March 21-23
Southeast
* Birmingham, Ala., Birmingham-Jefferson Civic Center, March 21-23
Midwest
* San Antonio, Texas, Alamodome, March 20-22
West
* San Jose State, San Jose Arena, March 20-22
Final Four
* Indianapolis, Ind., RCA Dome.
Semifinals, March 29
East vs. Midwest
West vs. Southeast. First semifinal at 5:42 p.m. ET.
Final, March 31.
Semifinal winners; tipoff at approximately 8:40 p.m. ET.
|
| 14.2000 | Hoops SNARF! | TUXEDO::SWEENEY | Tom Sweeney in LKG | Mon Mar 10 1997 16:04 | 3 |
| Cain't help it!
zamboni
|
| 14.2001 | NIT schedule | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Mar 10 1997 16:22 | 25 |
| NIT:
Wednesday:
Iona (22-7) at UConn (14-14)
Drexel (22-8) at Bradley (16-12)
Nevada-Reno (20-8) at Fresno State (20-11)
Washington (17-10) at defending NIT champion Nebraska (17-13)
Florida State (16-11) at Syracuse (19-12)
George Washington (16-13) at Michigan State (16-11)
Southwest Missouri State (24-8) at North Carolina State (16-13)
Bowling Green (22-8) at West Virginia (19-9)
Oral Roberts (21-6) at Notre Dame (14-13)
Alabama-Birmingham (18-13) at TCU (21-12)
Northern Arizona (21-6) at Arkansas (15-12)
New Orleans (22-6) at Pittsburgh (17-14)
Oregon (17-10) at Hawaii (20-7)
Memphis (16-14) at UNLV (20-9)
Thursday:
Miami, Fla. (16-12) at Michigan (18-11)
Tulane (20-10) at Oklahoma State (18-12)
The NIT will be played at campus and neutral sites for the first three
rounds, with the semifinal and finals at Madison Square Garden on
March 24 and 26.
|
| 14.2002 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | A great face for radio... | Mon Mar 10 1997 16:41 | 6 |
|
So how do they decide who gets the home games? I don't see the
seedings.
On the NCAA front - something very interesting. Cincinnati and Xavier
could be on a collision course...
|
| 14.2003 | Get yer woodies out... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Mar 10 1997 16:46 | 12 |
|
> On the NCAA front - something very interesting. Cincinnati and Xavier
> could be on a collision course...
And as pointed out on The Show last night, potentially Dean versus Bob
in a game where Dean has the chance to break Rupp's record for coaching
victories. Ain't no one gonna convince me that this wasn't intentional
on the part of the selection committee (and I see nothing wrong with
it, either).
glenn
|
| 14.2004 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Mon Mar 10 1997 17:42 | 2 |
| hopefully Bobby slams him and makes him wait till next year. Can't believe that
the Big11 got 6 teams after last year's showing.
|
| 14.2005 | Top 25 | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Mar 10 1997 18:21 | 42 |
|
The USA Today-CNN Top 25
The USA TODAY/CNN Coaches Top 25 college poll, with number of
first-place votes and record in parentheses, total points and last
week's ranking: (THROUGH GAMES OF SUNDAY, MARCH 9TH)
Points Previous
1 Kansas (30) (32-1) 750 1
2 Utah (26-3) 694 3
3 Minnesota (27-3) 675 2
4 Kentucky (30-4) 666 5
5 North Carolina (24-6) 648 6
6 South Carolina (24-7) 571 4
7 UCLA (21-7) 555 8
8 Duke (23-8) 538 7
9 Wake Forest (23-6) 529 9
10 Cincinnati (25-7) 439 10
11 New Mexico (24-7) 367 12
12 Clemson (21-9) 328 13
13 Arizona (19-9) 321 11
14 Xavier OH (22-5) 311 14
15 St Josephs PA (24-6) 294 23
16 Villanova (23-9) 259 17
17 Iowa State (20-8) 245 15
18 Coll of Charltn (28-2) 239 18
19 Maryland (21-10) 191 20
20 Boston College (21-8) 161 NR
21 Stanford (20-7) 150 22
22 Georgia (24-8) 136 NR
23 Colorado (21-9) 114 16
24 Illinois (21-9) 106 21
25 Louisville (23-8) 103 19
DroppeOut: No. 24 Indiana (22-10), No. 25 Princeton (23-3)
OtherReceiving Votes: Marquette 72, California 68, Princeton
39 Purdue 29, Indiana 28, Iowa 17, Pacific 14, Illinois State
13 Wisconsin 12, NC-Charlotte 11, Rhode Island 11, Nevada 10,
Michiga9, Texas Tech 9, Virginia 4, Boston Univeristy 3,
Providenc3, South Alabama 2, St. Mary's (Cal) 2, Tulsa 2,
NeOrleans 1, Tulane 1.
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| 14.2006 | | BIGQ::MCKAY | | Mon Mar 10 1997 19:07 | 8 |
| IMO the home games in the NIT are revenue driven. A perfect example
is a 14-14 UCONN hosting a 22 win Iona. UCONN will sell out a 10k
arena, I wouldn't think Iona has one or would sell it out..........
There are also no brackets and the next games are determined after
this round is complete.........
Jimbo
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| 14.2007 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Mon Mar 10 1997 19:08 | 8 |
|
You know, it's kinda neat...
Princeton loses three places for not playing, and in spite of being
the 28th ranked team (by this poll, admittedly), which would suggest
a 7 seed, they get a 12 seed.
Joe
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| 14.2008 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | A great face for radio... | Mon Mar 10 1997 19:25 | 7 |
|
Doesn't matter - Princeton will win their first game, then beat
Vill-enigma. Then they'll fade away.
Supposedly this year's Tiger squad is even better than last year's
that beat UCLA.
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| 14.2009 | record against tourney teams | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Mar 10 1997 19:40 | 66 |
| Record in 97 against tournament teams, sorted by wins.
NO CAROLINA 12 5
KANSAS 11 0
MINNESOTA 11 2
KENTUCKY 11 4
DUKE 11 6
WAKE FOREST 9 4
LOUISVILLE 8 4
SO CAROLINA 8 6
UCLA 8 6
WISCONSIN 7 3
ST JOSEPHS 7 5
CLEMSON 7 7
XAVIER 6 2
VILLANOVA 6 5
ARIZONA 6 6
CALIFORNIA 6 6
RHODE ISLAND 6 7
MARYLAND 6 8
UTAH 5 3
NEW MEXICO 5 3
OKLAHOMA 5 4
MARQUETTE 5 4
PROVIDENCE 5 5
STANFORD 5 5
TULSA 5 5
CINCINNATI 5 6
GEORGIA 5 6
IOWA 5 6
TEMPLE 5 7
PURDUE 5 7
ILLINOIS 5 8
INDIANA 5 8
MASSACHUSETTS 5 9
GEORGETOWN 4 3
BOSTON COLLEGE 4 3
SOUTHERN CAL 4 7
VIRGINIA 4 10
COL OF CHARLESTON 3 1
MISSISSIPPI 3 4
IOWA ST 3 6
TEXAS 3 7
VANDERBILT 3 8
NC-CHARLOTTE 2 7
COLORADO 2 7
OLD DOMINION 1 0
PACIFIC 1 0
PRINCETON 1 2
CHARLESTON SO 1 2
ALABAMA 0 0
ILLINOIS ST 0 0
UT-CHATTANOOGA 0 0
NURRAY ST 0 0
MONTANA 0 0
ST MARYS 0 0
BOSTON 0 1
NAVY 0 1
SW TEXAS 0 1
FAIRFIELD 0 1
MIAMI-OH 0 2
BUTLER 0 2
VALPARAISO 0 2
COPPEN ST 0 2
LONG ISLAND 0 3
JACKSON ST 0 3
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| 14.2010 | Better than the team that should beat Hoyas | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Mon Mar 10 1997 20:04 | 10 |
| > Supposedly this year's Tiger squad is even better than last year's
> that beat UCLA.
Actually, this is a much better Princeton team than last year. After
beating Penn in Philadelphia by 15, Penn coach Dunphy stated that it was
the best execution of the Princeton style he had ever seen. The Tigers
lost to Indiana in their opener (in a decent effort), lost at home to UNC
after leading much of the way, beat Marquette in Milwaukee to win a
holiday tournament, and had only a couple of bad games in an unbeaten
Ivy season. It is the best Princeton team since the Bradley days.
|
| 14.2011 | OSU cleans house | HBAHBA::HAAS | still not dead yet | Mon Mar 10 1997 20:08 | 7 |
| ... and in a semi-related event...
Ohio St has fired Randy Ayers. Just to be sure no one files any sex
discrimination suit, AD Andy Geiger also fired the women's coach Nancy
Darsch.
TTom
|
| 14.2012 | AP AA | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Tue Mar 11 1997 12:41 | 69 |
|
1996-97 All-America Basketball Team
First team
Tim Duncan, Wake Forest, 6-10, 248, senior, 20.9 ppg, 14.3 rpg, 61.2
fg pct., 3.2 blocks, 3.2 apg (340 points).
Keith Van Horn, Utah, 6-10, 231, senior, 22.2 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 89.0 ft
pct., 41.5 3-pt fg pct. (336).
Ron Mercer, Kentucky, 6-7, 210, sophomore, 18.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.5 apg,
1.7 steals (289).
Raef LaFrentz, Kansas, 6-11, 235, junior, 18.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 59.4 fg
pct. (266).
Danny Fortson, Cincinnati, 6-7, 260, junior, 21.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 62.1
fg pct. (236).
Second team
Brevin Knight, Stanford, 5-10, 173, senior, 15.7 ppg, 7.8 apg, 2.8
steals, 43.0 3-pt fg pct., 82.1 ft pct. (192).
Antawn Jamison, North Carolina, 6-9, 222, sophomore, 19.3 ppg, 9.5
rpg, 55.8 fg pct. (160).
Jacque Vaughn, Kansas, 6-1, 195, senior, 10.5 ppg, 6.2 apg, 1.9 steals
(157).
Chauncey Billups, Colorado, 6-3, 202, sophomore, 19.3 ppg, 4.9 apg,
4.8 rpg, 40.8 3-pt fg pct., 2.2 steals (139).
Bobby Jackson, Minnesota, 6-1, 185, senior, 14.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 4.1
apg, 2.1 steals (132).
Third team
Shea Seals, Tulsa, 6-5, 210, senior, 21.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.9 steals
(99).
Adonal Foyle, Colgate, junior, 24.4 ppg, 13.1 rpg, 6.4 bpg, 56.5 fg
pct. (92).
Keith Booth, Maryland, senior, 19.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg (60).
Ed Gray, California, 6-3, 210, senior, 24.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg (59).
Andre Woolridge, Iowa, 6-0, 190, senior, 20.0 ppg, 5.9 apg (46).
Honorable Mention
Danya Abrams, Boston College; Toby Bailey, UCLA; Tony Battie, Texas
Tech; Cory Carr, Texas Tech; Anthony Carter, Hawaii; Antonio Daniels,
Bowling Green; Larry Davis, South Carolina; Thaddeous Delaney, College
of Charleston; Michael Dickerson, Arizona; Reggie Freeman, Texas;
Kiwane Garris, Illinois; Pat Garrity, Notre Dame; Matt Harpring,
Georgia Tech; Odell Hodge, Old Dominion; Jerald Honeycutt, Tulane;
Marc Jackson, Temple; Sam Jacobson, Minnesota; DeMarco Johnson, North
Carolina Charlotte; Charles Jones, Long Island University; Trajan
Langdon, Duke; BJ McKie, South Carolina; Charles O'Bannon, UCLA;
Victor Page, Georgetown; Anthony Parker, Bradley; Paul Pierce, Kansas;
Scot Pollard, Kansas; Charles Smith, New Mexico; Olivier St. Jean, San
Jose State; Kenny Thomas, New Mexico; Tim Thomas, Villanova; Melvin
Watson, South Carolina; DeJuan Wheat, Louisville; Alvin Williams,
Villanova; Dedric Willoughby, Iowa State.
By The Associated Press
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| 14.2013 | conference records since 89 | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Tue Mar 11 1997 13:53 | 18 |
| How the conferences have fared in NCAA tourney since 1989 (Michigan won).
Final Nat'l Tourney
Conference Four champs record (.pct)
ACC 8 3 92-39 (.702)
SEC 6 2 56-32 (.636)
BigWest 2 1 17-11 (.607)
BIG1T1EN 3 0 67-44 (.604)
BigEast 1 0 61-41 (.598)
SWC 1 0 18-15 (.545)
A10 1 0 26-22 (.542)
Big8 3 0 41-36 (.532)
PAC10 2 1 33-31 (.516)
WAC 0 0 13-19 (.406)
I don't think we need a 32-point must system here.
TTom
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| 14.2014 | Recheck your source | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Tue Mar 11 1997 14:58 | 20 |
| re: 2009
Don't where you got your data but some of it is in error.
For instance,
Boston College was 5-4 against Tourney teams not 4-3 as your list shows
Wins: Georgetown ( twice ), Villanova, Vanderbilt, Fairfield
Losses: Lousiville, UMass, Providence, Villanova
UMass won six not five as your list shows
Wins: Temple ( twice ) , URI ( twice ), BC, Maryland
Without checking in details I assume the records for some of the other
teams are probably incorrect also
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| 14.2015 | NCAA Web Site | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Tue Mar 11 1997 15:09 | 5 |
| I got that from the NCAA web site in their guides to the teams.
I just extracted what they had listed.
TTom
|
| 14.2016 | NCAA RPI | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Tue Mar 11 1997 15:47 | 70 |
|
RPI college basketball ratings
Through March 9
NCAA tournament participant
Rank, team W L FII RPI
1. Kansas 31 1 .5838 .6742
2. Kentucky 29 4 .6001 .6572
3. North Carolina 24 6 .6292 .6569
4. Minnesota 26 3 .5826 .6522
5. Utah 25 3 .5582 .6380
6. Wake Forest 23 6 .5891 .6344
7. Duke 23 8 .6038 .6270
8. Villanova 22 9 .6200 .6229
9. South Carolina 23 7 .5848 .6202
10. UCLA 21 7 .5883 .6165
11. Clemson 21 9 .6026 .6159
12. St. Joseph's 24 6 .5541 .6124
13. Cincinnati 25 7 .5661 .6112
14. New Mexico 23 7 .5701 .6087
15. Tulsa 23 9 .5710 .6017
16. Indiana 22 10 .5843 .6014
17. Arizona 19 9 .5892 .5994
18. Louisville 23 8 .5519 .5978
19. Georgia 24 8 .5433 .5965
20. California 21 8 .5603 .5963
21. Maryland 21 10 .5727 .5963
22. Purdue 17 11 .6131 .5945
23. Rhode Island 20 9 .5762 .5939
24. Illinois 21 9 .5643 .5934
25. Virginia 18 12 .6069 .5932
26. Wisconsin 18 9 .5738 .5919
27. N.C.-Charlotte 21 8 .5553 .5917
28. Xavier 22 5 .5093 .5907
30. Stanford 18 7 .5537 .5886
31. Boston Univ. 25 4 .4965 .5877
32. Princeton 23 3 .4803 .5854
33. Vanderbilt 18 11 .5887 .5847
34. Boston College 21 8 .5339 .5846
35. Illinois St. 24 5 .4930 .5842
36. Iowa St. 20 8 .5355 .5829
37. Iowa 20 9 .5460 .5826
38. Temple 19 10 .5629 .5818
39. Texas 16 11 .5843 .5807
43. Colorado 21 9 .5361 .5785
44. Mississippi 19 8 .5346 .5785
45. Massachusetts 18 13 .5946 .5785
46. Providence 20 11 .5579 .5770
47. Oklahoma 19 10 .5509 .5752
51. Marquette 22 8 .5124 .5719
52. So. California 17 10 .5505 .5692
53. Charleston 26 2 .4449 .5687
57. Georgetown 19 9 .5223 .5655
65. Valparaiso 22 6 .4869 .5593
67. Miami Univ. 21 8 .5008 .5566
77. Pacific 22 5 .4417 .5483
79. South Alabama 21 6 .4630 .5474
82. Long Island 21 8 .4931 .5470
89. Butler 21 9 .4810 .5392
91. Old Dominion 22 10 .4768 .5373
93. St. Mary's 21 7 .4450 .5342
124. Montana 17 10 .4712 .5117
131. Tenn.-Chatt. 18 10 .4485 .5056
136. Coppin St. 21 8 .4131 .5020
147. Charleston So. 15 12 .4798 .4969
159. Navy 18 8 .4047 .4916
166. Murray St. 17 9 .4217 .4888
181. SW Texas St. 15 12 .4455 .4770
214. Jackson St. 13 15 .4425 .4532
231. Fairfield 11 18 .4532 .4404
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| 14.2017 | NIT RPI | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Tue Mar 11 1997 15:47 | 38 |
|
RPI college basketball ratings
Through March 9
NIT tournament participant
Rank, team W L FII RPI
40. Michigan 19 11 .5655 .5805
41. Texas Christian 21 12 .5760 .5798
42. SW Missouri St. 24 8 .5293 .5797
48. Oklahoma St. 16 14 .6198 .5748
49. West Virginia 19 9 .5317 .5724
50. Hawaii 20 7 .5153 .5721
54. Florida St. 16 11 .5606 .5675
55. Nebraska 16 14 .5962 .5670
56. Oral Roberts 19 6 .4947 .5665
58. UNLV 20 9 .5200 .5639
59. Tulane 18 10 .5455 .5638
60. Syracuse 19 12 .5493 .5630
61. Fresno St. 19 11 .5437 .5609
62. North Carolina St. 15 14 .5808 .5605
63. Oregon 16 10 .5436 .5605
64. Drexel 22 8 .5072 .5602
66. Arkansas 15 12 .5659 .5578
68. Pittsburgh 16 14 .5757 .5562
70. New Orleans 22 6 .4753 .5554
71. Bowling Green 21 9 .5032 .5549
72. Memphis 16 14 .5757 .5547
73. Michigan St. 16 11 .5361 .5539
75. George Washington 15 13 .5676 .5505
76. Nevada 19 9 .5115 .5494
81. Notre Dame 14 13 .5667 .5471
84. Washington 16 10 .5145 .5462
85. Connecticut 14 14 .5672 .5441
90. Miami 16 12 .5218 .5380
92. Ala.-Birmingham 18 13 .5247 .5359
101. Iona 22 7 .4374 .5280
104. No. Arizona 19 5 .4132 .5266
105. Bradley 16 12 .5001 .5250
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| 14.2018 | | CAM::WAY | and keep me steadfast | Thu Mar 13 1997 13:57 | 13 |
| You know it's a strange thing.
I don't like basketball all that much. That's not a revlation to you sports
noters.
But this time of year I do find my interesting peaking a bit when it comes to
the NCAA. Perhaps it's because you'll always find an upset like last year when
(can't even remember the team) knocked off UCLA...
Or maybe it's because basketball is small doses can be somewhat entertaining
for me....
Who knows...
|
| 14.2019 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Thu Mar 13 1997 14:02 | 9 |
|
> Or maybe it's because basketball is small doses can be somewhat entertaining
> for me....
Or maybe you're going soft... ;-)
glenn
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| 14.2020 | maybe it's a 'burgh thang (The Pipers were a joke) | MKOTS3::LONG | Taxation without representation | Thu Mar 13 1997 14:32 | 9 |
| The Chainsaw, prop-butt extrordinaire, going soft......
fat chance! (pun intended)
I'm the same way, though. They could ban the NBA to Lower
Swebovia and I would care less, but the NCAA and NIT Tourney
really are entertaining for me.
billl
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| 14.2021 | Not to speak of Dick Kazmaier | MKOTS3::BREEN | Those dear hearts | Thu Mar 13 1997 14:33 | 5 |
| That was Princeton 'Saw, home of Hobie Baker a hall of famer in two
sports neither basketball, Bill Bradley still considered by many the
greatest college player ever and former coach Carril who finally beat
one of the big ones after terrifying the field in the 80s, especially
Georgetown.
|
| 14.2022 | | CAM::WAY | and keep me steadfast | Thu Mar 13 1997 15:17 | 6 |
| I remembered Pete Carril was the coach, and I *thought* it was Princeton, but
wasn't sure.....
Mind might be going soft.
|
| 14.2023 | | AD::HEATH | The albatross and whales they are my brother | Thu Mar 13 1997 16:09 | 14 |
|
Hobie Baker.....saw a special on espn the other night that mentioned
him. Knew he was a great college hockey player, so good they named an
award after him but what I didn't relize is he was just about the best
american athlete of his time. Was so good even Prez Hoover come to see
him beat up on Yale. Also didn't know he died/killed hisownself over
in Europe during the first war to end 'em all. Some say after being a
fighter jock he just couldn't take going back to the borin ole US OF A.
Jerry
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| 14.2024 | Upset time | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | regnaD kciN, my hero | Thu Mar 13 1997 17:09 | 7 |
| Oh S&%t
California beats Princeton 55 - 52. Damn, I had them going one more
round too.
UMDan
|
| 14.2025 | | MKOTS3::LONG | Taxation without representation | Thu Mar 13 1997 18:32 | 8 |
| speaking of upsets.....
Every year there is at least one #12 seed that whoops a #5.
I'm hoping for BU to upset Tulsa. It appears that Valparaiso
is poised to be the firsted one this year.
billl
|
| 14.2026 | | ALFSS2::ROLLINS_R | | Thu Mar 13 1997 19:07 | 18 |
| Yup, Valpo still leading by 4 with 10 minutes left.
Finals:
California 55, Princeton 52
Cal breaks a 50-50 tie with 1 minute to go, then gets a block on a
3-point attempt to tie with 4 seconds left.
Kansas 78, Jackson State 64
Kansas breaks 4-21 slump to start second half; offensive rebounding
is the difference as KU was getting many tries at the hoop each time
down. Anyone who picked Trent Pulliam (JSU) in Nazz's contest gets
28 points*3 for a 16-seed (84) points. Raef LaFrentz 18 for Kansas,
Paul Pierce 19 to lead the Jayhawks' scorers.
Cincinnati 86, Butler 69
Bulldogs first visit to the tourney in 34 years goes down in flames.
Cinci in control throughout second half; Fortson leads with 24 points.
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| 14.2027 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Thu Mar 13 1997 19:14 | 8 |
|
BC pulls ahead by 1 with 7:43 left. Gettin' nervous - I have BC
deep in the pool.
I already lost too much when Princeton blew it today...
- Sean
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| 14.2028 | quick update on NCAA action | BIGQ::WEST | Kevin 225-4528 HLO | Thu Mar 13 1997 19:27 | 0 |
| 14.2029 | CBS sucks | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Fri Mar 14 1997 14:46 | 13 |
| Who knows if'n this'll get in or not but here goes.
Based on yesterday's productions, CBS has reminded us yet again that they
aint really into sprots.
Sure the game you're watching is at half time and there's at least 2
other games going on. I'd much rather listen to Clark Kellogg.
And oh yeah, what about that middle game, St.Joe's vs Pacific? They had
games at noon and 2:30 so a 5:00 game would be nice. But no way. At least
not in this area. You know danged well that ESPN woulda showed 'em all.
TTom
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| 14.2030 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Fri Mar 14 1997 14:51 | 9 |
|
I know I got home at 5:30 expecting to see the game but no! Not till
Deans Boys came on was I allowed to watch. :-(
BTW where were the NIT games yesterday televised?
Chap
|
| 14.2031 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | | Fri Mar 14 1997 14:54 | 6 |
|
Do you guys really think your local CBS station. Is going to push
off the nightly news, Wheel of Fortune, and Jeopardy. So you can watch
an extra BB game. :^)
Ron
|
| 14.2032 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Fri Mar 14 1997 14:57 | 3 |
|
Good Point.
|
| 14.2033 | the fix | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Fri Mar 14 1997 14:58 | 7 |
| Hail, Ron, they catch major flack for pre-empting the freakin Soaps.
As for the NIT, no one carried 'em, not even the deuce. My guess is that
CBS put the fix in with the NCAA to keep 'em off the tube yesterday and
anytime it might conflict with their schedule.
I guess they coulda showed one at 5, though...
|
| 14.2034 | | CAM::WAY | and keep me steadfast | Fri Mar 14 1997 15:44 | 4 |
| Imus was blasting CBS and their lame commentators on this morning's show.
CBS is falling farther and farther behind in most areas of television: news,
prime time, sports....
|
| 14.2035 | ~/~ | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Fri Mar 14 1997 16:02 | 45 |
|
My Annual The Big East Gets Shafted Every Tourney Tirade
(or why the selection committe is the bane of my existence)
Let's look at what the conferences actually did with their
picks last year:
== 1996 ========================================
teams teams in overall
conference started Sweet 16 tourney record
--------- ---------- ---------- ---------------
SEC: 4 4 14-3 ( .824)
Big East: 5 3 12-5 ( .706)
A10: 4 1 6-4 ( .600)
ACC: 6 2 6-6 ( .500)
Big10: 5 0 2-5 ( .286)
Clearly, the SEC and the Big East were undervalued. As
usual, the Big 10 and ACC were WAY overvalued. In fact,
I bet the Big 10 would have gotten more if they hadn't
shown how stupid it was to let 7 teams in in '94.
Yet.... YET.... YET!!!........
Who gets the most teams this year? The Big 10 and ACC.
What's up with that? Anyway, here's how things are going
so far...
== 1997 ========================================
teams teams current
conference started still left tourney record
--------- ---------- ---------- ---------------
Big East: 4 4 2-0 (1.000)
A10: 5 4 2-1 ( .667)
Big10: 6 5 2-1 ( .667)
SEC: 5 4 1-1 ( .500)
ACC: 6 4 1-2 ( .333)
Well, the Big 10 is actually so far not self-
destructing! Amazing. Poor ACC - HA! they can't lose
enough for me! :^)
By the way, the Big East (no jokes about SU, pals)
is also kicking butt in the NIT.
- Sean
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| 14.2036 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 14 1997 16:10 | 14 |
|
> Well, the Big 10 is actually so far not self-
> destructing! Amazing.
Exactly. I wouldn't place to much emphasis on past tourney
performance, with the high turnover in players year-to-year, and the
relative few number of tourney games. The Big-10 has its top 3 seeds
yet to play (yesterday's 2-1 was all from #8 seeds), so they should
reverse their record in last year's dismal opening weekend. They may
get shut out of the Final 8 but the Big East almost certainly will.
So what's it all mean?
glenn
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| 14.2037 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Fri Mar 14 1997 16:37 | 5 |
|
> get shut out of the Final 8 but the Big East almost certainly will.
Glad we got that prediction in writing.... :^)
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| 14.2038 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Bang! Bang! Bang! | Fri Mar 14 1997 17:12 | 7 |
|
>> They may get shut out of the Final 8 but the Big East almost
>> certainly will. So what's it all mean?
That the Big 10 is a weak-assed conference that you continually
make excuses for.
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| 14.2039 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | NEW YORK YANKEES WORLD CHAMPS | Fri Mar 14 1997 17:14 | 3 |
|
Ditto
|
| 14.2040 | Go Moc's | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | regnaD kciN, my hero | Fri Mar 14 1997 17:40 | 4 |
| UTC 73 - GA 70 - It's a final
UMDan
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| 14.2041 | | WONDER::SEAN | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Fri Mar 14 1997 18:02 | 4 |
|
And another Big 10 bites the dust, #7 Wisconsin...
- Sean
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| 14.2042 | further into the abyss? | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Fri Mar 14 1997 18:59 | 11 |
| > <<< Note 14.2034 by CAM::WAY "and keep me steadfast" >>>
>
>Imus was blasting CBS and their lame commentators on this morning's show.
>
>CBS is falling farther and farther behind in most areas of television: news,
>prime time, sports....
And they just got Bryant Gumbal too.
Kevin
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| 14.2043 | Big 12 off to good start | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Fri Mar 14 1997 19:19 | 1 |
| Big 12 is is 4 for 4 with Oklahoma still to play
|
| 14.2044 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Fri Mar 14 1997 21:14 | 17 |
|
Yup, you're right, Big12 is cruising... I'll put in
the other heavyy-hitting conferences. As of 6:14 pm Fri.
night...
teams teams current
conference started still left tourney record
--------- ---------- ---------- ---------------
Big12: 5 5 4-0 (1.000)
CUSA: 4 4 2-0 (1.000)
WAC: 3 3 1-0 (1.000)
PAC10: 5 4 3-1 ( .750)
A10: 5 4 2-1 ( .667)
Big East: 4 3 2-1 ( .667)
Big10: 6 4 3-2 ( .600)
ACC: 6 4 2-2 ( .500)
SEC: 5 2 1-3 ( .250)
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| 14.2045 | Round of 32: WAC rules, SEC drools | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Sat Mar 15 1997 17:49 | 17 |
|
1997 NCAA Tournament Conference Performance
Current
Teams Teams Tourney Record % of Starter Current
Conference Started Still Left Wins Losses Still Left Tourney Avg.
---------- ------- ---------- -------------- ------------ ------------
WAC 3 3 3 0 100% 1.000
Big 12 5 4 4 1 80% 0.800
PAC 10 5 4 4 1 80% 0.800
Big East 4 3 3 1 75% 0.750
C-USA 4 3 3 1 75% 0.750
Big 10 6 4 4 2 67% 0.667
ACC 6 4 4 2 67% 0.667
Atlantic 10 5 3 3 2 60% 0.600
SEC 5 1 1 4 20% 0.200
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| 14.2046 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Sun Mar 16 1997 22:43 | 21 |
|
Okay, the Big East didn't turn out awesome - got what they
deserved this year. But the Big 10, sorry, is still getting
many more tickets than their performance warrants...
1997 NCAA Tournament Conference Performance
Current
Teams Teams in Tourney Record % of Starter Current
Conference Started Sweet 16 Wins Losses Still Left Tourney Avg.
----------- ------- -------- -------------- ---------- ------------
PAC 10 5 4 8 1 80% 0.889
Big 12 5 3 7 2 60% 0.778
WAC 3 1 4 2 33% 0.667
ACC 6 2 6 4 33% 0.600
C-USA 4 1 4 3 25% 0.571
Big East 4 1 4 3 25% 0.571
Atlantic 10 5 1 4 4 20% 0.500
Big 10 6 1 5 5 17% 0.500
SEC 5 1 2 4 20% 0.333
|
| 14.2047 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Mar 17 1997 12:11 | 16 |
|
>> They may get shut out of the Final 8 but the Big East almost
>> certainly will. So what's it all mean?
>
> That the Big 10 is a weak-assed conference that you continually
> make excuses for.
Nope. Just that the Big East is too, right now.
Say nighty-night to G-town, Chappy... they really stepped up to the
fore.
glenn
|
| 14.2048 | Non-Call?? | DONVAN::SCOPA | | Mon Mar 17 1997 12:42 | 19 |
| Did anyone else notice a non-call at the end of the Coppin State-Texas
game?
Coppin State is attempting to inbound the ball underneath its own
basket. The Texas defender REACHES OVER THE BASELINE AND TAPS THE BALL
while in the hands of the Coppin State player.
Not only did the defender break the plane but he touched the ball. In
high school bball that's a technical foul. I thought Coppin State would
get at least one foul shot and the ball...but there was no call.
Did anyone else see this?
* * * *
I also thought a foul could have been called at the end of the B.C.-St.
Joe's contest.
Maj
|
| 14.2049 | RI - Sports Central... when are the Pats moving in? :^) | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 17 1997 12:43 | 7 |
|
Looking for the past and present RI coaches edition of The Final Four!
PC, Kentucky (Pitino, ex PC), Clemson (Barnes, ex PC), and Texas
(Penders, ex URI)...
- Sean
|
| 14.2050 | Get rid of CBS | GLRMAI::WILKES | | Mon Mar 17 1997 12:50 | 11 |
| Just as last year the Commercial Broadcasting System's ( CBS ) coverage
of the Tournament is about to drive me crazy. I wish somehow ESPN could
wrest the TV contract away from them.
When ESPN had the first rounds the attitude seemed to be "we have to
show you some commercials in order to pay for the basketball coverage
we are giving you"
On CBS the attitude seems to be "we have show you a little bit of
basketball in order to suck you in to watching our endless stream of
commercials"
|
| 14.2051 | Unless it might have affected the line.... | CAM::WAY | and keep me steadfast | Mon Mar 17 1997 13:05 | 7 |
| Plus, the commentators suck.
Re the foul at the end of the BC-St. Joe's game. I don't think they called it
because the ball didn't go in. Granted, if they were going to call it they
should have done it while the ball was being shot, but the point was moot
anyway cause the ball didn't go in.
|
| 14.2052 | BC deserved to lose but if that ball had gone in... | MKOTS3::BREEN | Those dear hearts | Mon Mar 17 1997 13:17 | 18 |
| .Re the foul at the end of the BC-St. Joe's game. I don't think they
.called it because the ball didn't go in.
Frank, that would have been even worse, blowing the whistle after the
ball went in. They don't like to call these but if that ball had gone
in then violence was in this case justified. I would have chipped in
for the bail. The official should be cited.
But BC lost because they played not to lose.
And CBS gets all the commercials it could ever want what with the
ceremony at the end of games that all ncaa basketball coaches must
perform to retain tonsure. Send them to the foul line in the hope they
miss and get it down to < 4, < 7 etc => # of possessions. And what's
worse it worked for BC to get them in the OT but Duke died with it.
The problem is if you play aggressive and go for the ball the refs will
think your trying to foul anyway.
|
| 14.2053 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Mar 17 1997 13:52 | 7 |
|
My buddies from here at ZKO who went to the 'burgh to see the games
could not have seen any better basketball. Two one-point second-round
games, not to mention the whole Coppin State story...
glenn
|
| 14.2054 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 17 1997 13:52 | 1 |
| GO PAC-10!
|
| 14.2055 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 17 1997 17:59 | 5 |
|
Nice home game for Stanford in San Jose this weekend :^)
- Sean
|
| 14.2056 | they earned it either way | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 17 1997 20:07 | 2 |
| The PAC-10 has taken enough abuse in recent years (despite the UCLA
title) so they deserve a break like Stanford is getting.
|
| 14.2057 | No easy path for PAC they pretty much earned it | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Mon Mar 17 1997 20:49 | 13 |
| Arizona may have got a little bit of a break but the rest didn't
especially Stanford not that this is what you mean. Poor Duncan, he
just couldn't get support even though there is talent. College kids
who think they're NBA material,(darn what's that Wake guards name? Like
him) just won't put up with throwing it into a Duncan all game long and
only taking the 3's etc when they're given. Odoms is that the name?
California had an ostensibly tough opponent in Villanova who can't play
back to back as BC demonstrated in the BE tourney. And UCLA had Xavier
and dispached them fairly easily.
And naturally my PAC12 surprise team was going to be Southern Cal and
Rodrick Rhodes revenge run.
|
| 14.2058 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 17 1997 20:58 | 5 |
| Arizona is the biggest surprise to me. I thought they would give their
annual first round choke job (see dimwit Lute and his pathetic whining
during press conferences). They were on the ropes in both games but
the opponents couldn't put them away. They should be done when Kansas
is through with them.
|
| 14.2059 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Mar 18 1997 13:55 | 15 |
|
Dang!
Almost got to see Coppin St. for the second time in Syracuse!
Saw them in '93 for the first rounds, and even though they
lost then, they had a little roll going in the game that got
the crowd on their side.
I'm going back to going to the first rounds from now on. Who do I
get to see in the Regionals? NC, AZ, Texas (they're okay), and
Illinois. Plus, SU is on Spring Break! :^P
Bah!
- Sean
|
| 14.2060 | For your weekend NCAA Singalong | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Tue Mar 18 1997 15:08 | 160 |
|
This is from an old Patti Page or perhaps Doris Day song of my era.
The original was pretty hokey and I sorta changed the sentiments
around. Most of this came out of my caffeine wracked, insomniac brain
in the wee hours of the night. Enjoy if you can, try to picture Doris.
**** Warning, Extremely Long and Boring Poetry Alert **** Tread warily
I love those dear hearts and gentle people,
The NC Double-A.
Those dear hearts and gentle people
That rule and gov the NCA(A).
They run their tourney
From Thurs till Sunday.
They make the weekend go.
They run the tourney
From Thurs till Sunday
And roll and roll and roll in dough.
I love those dear hearts and gentle people
The suits from CBS.
Those dear hearts and gentle people
That call the shots at CBS.
We must have Kansas
Alive on Sunday.
They make the sponsors beam.
And the Tar Heels from Carolina
The advertisers' favorite team.
Those dear hearts and gentle people
That make the Sweet Sixteen.
Those dear hearts and gentle people,
Shashefsky and that Snuffhead Dean.
They jump and holler
From tap till buzzer.
They whine the whole game long.
They grab their collar
They groan and grumble
And never do a damn thing wrong.
The inner city, the slums and ghetto
That's where the boys come from.
Those dear slums and filthy ghettoes
We don't have here in our home town.
Tipsters, groupies
And roundball junkies.
They search the playgrounds round.
Sneaker salesmen and booster bunkies
They'll never, never let you down.
They work the boys hard
From dawn till sundown.
They make them earn their way.
Tuition stipends and three meals daily
And lodging by the NCA(A).
Those dear hearts and gentle people
Givenchy weaves their ties.
Those dear hearts and gentle people
They keep the cash but never lie.
Here are the rules boys
You do it our way.
We will take care of you.
No NBA talk, no phoning home now,
No agents till your twenty two.
It's not your money
You don't get nothing.
Can't let the profits down.
That shirt there that bears your number
You'll never, never call your own.
948 boys, that is your number.
It's going up not down.
Learn to read boys and do those numbers,
For we're the only game in town.
The Association
Won't call your number.
They only take a few.
Come with us boys, become alumna
Diplomas needn't burden you.
Those dear hearts and gentle people
That live in Vegas town.
Those sweethearts and genteel people
They'll never, ever let you down.
They write a good book
From Thurs till Sunday.
They take bets all week long.
The spread boy
Don't touch that number.
C'ment shoes'll surely weigh you down.
Those dear hearts and gentle people
That bring to our home town,
The Ad-boys, the TV pitchmen
They bring the show to our home town.
More timeouts boys we need commercials,
To make the money grow.
Show those Duke boys
And Carolina,
Elite teams will always make the show.
Christian Laettner and Bobby Hurley
They took Tarkanian down.
Saint Valvano, up came his number,
But first he took Phi Jamma down.
We look at Dean's puss
On Fri and Sunday.
He's always been around.
He makes arrangements to be there Monday
Hoping O'bie hasn't come to town.
Big East Officials
They call 'em one way.
They don't let holding go.
Big Ten officials,
They let the boys play.
Push and shove and bloody nose.
Oh those announcers, the warm and friendly.
Billy Packer's crew.
He played for Bones, boys
He glimpsed that banner,
In 1900 sixty two.
He doesn't know boys
At sea thru Sunday.
He's lost all weekend long.
What does it matter,
There's always replay.
He's never, never, never wrong.
The hierarchy,
They watch the numbers.
It's now a billion-two.
This cow is gold boys
We never slumber,
Don't ever tell us what to do.
Those dear hearts and gentle people
That run the NCA(A).
Those mean hearts and nasty people
That rule and gov the NCA(A).
(I could go on boys
It's never ending
It's now a quarter past four.
The saga, the road a-bending
Will never, never, never bore.)
|
| 14.2061 | How many lines was that?!?!? | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass in 1998 - Final Four! | Tue Mar 18 1997 16:02 | 3 |
| My goodness Breen - you are a pick puppy!
NAZZ
|
| 14.2062 | | MKOTS3::LONG | Taxation without representation | Tue Mar 18 1997 16:28 | 5 |
| Even an overdose of Juan Valdez's best should not have a
result like that!
billl
|
| 14.2063 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Tue Mar 18 1997 16:32 | 9 |
|
> Even an overdose of Juan Valdez's best should not have a
> result like that!
I'm worried. I'm very, very worried.
glenn
|
| 14.2064 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Tue Mar 18 1997 16:55 | 4 |
|
somebody fire the person that mix the high test in Bill's decaff....
;^)
|
| 14.2065 | That road did go on and on and on | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Tue Mar 18 1997 17:29 | 6 |
| So you liked it. I'm waiting for Brydie. When it comes to the NCAA I
am one cynical sob. And if you've never heard the song it might be
hard to get the rythym. For your singalongs you need a female voice
for the last line and the middle line/syllables.
I'm teaching it to Phil for his next show and tell at second grade.
|
| 14.2066 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Tue Mar 18 1997 17:35 | 3 |
| we'll send it to the Grammy awards committee. At your age you should be a shoo
in for the award. Just witness the Beatles winning 4 this year. The Beatles are
as overrated as one Dean Smith..........
|
| 14.2067 | Finally got that danged song out of my head, tho | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Tue Mar 18 1997 19:22 | 12 |
| Mikey you're probably the only one in here that knows the song. When
oldies are on I consider anything by the Beatles as not qualifying as
an oldie. The shear line of demarcation is "I want to hold your
hand".
The song, btw, goes on and on and on too. Around the middle (be still
my heart) they quicken the tempo. There really is a line "We read the
good book, from Fri till Sunday".
The big question still outstanding is "Was it Doris or Patti?"
|
| 14.2068 | No nailbiters tonight, but a lot of foul-and-hope-they-miss games | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass in 1998 - Final Four! | Thu Mar 20 1997 15:53 | 8 |
| Predictions for tonight -
St. Joe's 76, Kentucky 69
Iowa State 58, UCLA 55
Utah 74, Stanford 67
Minnesota 64, Clemson 45
NAZZ
|
| 14.2069 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | A great face for radio... | Thu Mar 20 1997 16:06 | 4 |
|
"Hello, my name is Steve. And I'm an Atlantic-10 addict. I even
named my kid Marcus Camby Nazzaro. And she doesn't like it one bit..."
|
| 14.2070 | why not | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Thu Mar 20 1997 16:22 | 8 |
| Hail, I have hard enough time predicting winners so I'll skip the scores.
Kentucky beats St. Joe's - easilty and unfortunately
UCLA beats Iowa St - handily
Stanford upsets Utah - at or near the buzzer
Minnesota nips Clemson - by a couple of FTs at the end
TTom
|
| 14.2071 | Pray with me. | SHARE::DERRY | Color me impressed... | Thu Mar 20 1997 16:25 | 2 |
| No, no, no... Utah has to beat Stanford, by the points, or I don't
move on.
|
| 14.2072 | PAV Pool?? | BIGQ::WEST | Kevin 225-4528 HLO | Thu Mar 20 1997 17:35 | 4 |
|
Move on to WHAT and WHERE??? Bigger better deal??
|
| 14.2073 | I'll eat lots o' crow tomorrow if St. Joe's gets blown out | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass in 1998 - Final Four! | Thu Mar 20 1997 17:41 | 9 |
| I have seen St. Joe's enough this year to know they are not going to
get rattled by Kentucky's pressure. I think they are quicker than
Kentucky at every position. Rashid Bey is far superior to the local
kid Turner at the point. Domani is an excellent defender who will give
Mercer trouble. Martelli is an excellent coach.
No A-10 glasses here - just the facts, as I interpret them. ;-)
NAZZ
|
| 14.2074 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Thu Mar 20 1997 18:20 | 1 |
| UCLA is gonna hammer Iowa St. They're easily the best PAC-10 team.
|
| 14.2075 | Least awful, rather than best, is a better description | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass in 1998 - Final Four! | Thu Mar 20 1997 18:41 | 3 |
| That's damning with faint praise, calling UCLA the best PAC-10 team.
NAZZ
|
| 14.2076 | where are the pretenders? | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Thu Mar 20 1997 18:46 | 3 |
| | -< Least awful, rather than best, is a better description >-
Well the least awful PAC-10 owns 25% of the sweet 16 survivors.
|
| 14.2077 | | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Thu Mar 20 1997 20:31 | 7 |
|
Winners tonight: St. Joe's, Iowa St., Stanford, and Clemson.
Well, I'm off to Syracuse for the games - GO PC!
- Sean
|
| 14.2078 | latest stats | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Fri Mar 21 1997 10:37 | 24 |
|
Wow, 0-4! :^) Well, here's the latest stats... I won't be backt to
update till I get back from Syracuse, where, hopefully, the last ACC
falls tonight...
-Sean
1997 NCAA Tournament Multi-Team Conference Performance
Current Current
Teams Teams in Teams Tourney Record % of Starters Tourney
Conference Started Sweet 16 Still Left Wins Losses Still Left Avg.
PAC 10 5 4 3 9 2 60% 0.818
Big 12 5 3 2 7 3 40% 0.700
WAC 3 1 1 4 2 33% 0.667
C-USA 4 1 1 4 3 25% 0.571
Big East 4 1 1 4 3 25% 0.571
ACC 6 2 1 6 5 17% 0.545
Big 10 6 1 1 6 5 17% 0.545
Atlantic 10 5 1 0 4 5 0% 0.444
SEC 5 1 1 3 4 20% 0.429
|
| 14.2079 | Chalk rules - top two seeds in each region advance | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass in 1998 - Final Four! | Fri Mar 21 1997 12:07 | 16 |
| Next time I predict no close games, remind me not to leave the
television! Three overtimes in four games must be some sort of record.
Did anyone who stayed up for the end of the UCLA game think Cameron
Dollar pushed off big-time to get off that shot to win the game? And
how about the Iowa State guy running the baseline back and forth and
getting a five second call?!?!? Way to set up a play, Tim Floyd!
As for St. Joe's, once they got down early, they could never get back
into the game. When Kentucky went up 28-17, the next time the score
was under double figures was 71-60. the big difference in the game to
me was Cameron Mills. He was simply awesome from outside, making a big
three every time the Hawks made a run.
NAZZ
|
| 14.2080 | push-off non call | WRKSYS::KNIKER | Hay saved and Cork beat | Fri Mar 21 1997 12:23 | 16 |
| > Did anyone who stayed up for the end of the UCLA game think Cameron
> Dollar pushed off big-time to get off that shot to win the game? And
> how about the Iowa State guy running the baseline back and forth and
> getting a five second call?!?!? Way to set up a play, Tim Floyd!
It looked like a push-off to me too. It just wasn't flagrant enough (even though
the defender went flying) to be called.
Is Brevin Knight thoroughly dislikeable or what ?? It seemed like he bitched and
whined the entire game. It seemed like the refs were afraid to call a foul on
him once he got his fourth foul early in the second half (and then protested by
throwing his hands up in the air and parading all the way around the court).
There were at least couple of times he could have gotten called for fouls after
that.
Chris
|
| 14.2081 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | A great face for radio... | Fri Mar 21 1997 12:48 | 22 |
|
My pick for clutch performer of the night was Michael Doleac. In OT,
Utah had three starters (including Van Horn) foul out. Utah played a
great team game to win it, but Doleac was big-time clutch, hitting all
12 of his free throws for the game, with most either late in the second
half or in the OT.
Regarding an earlier reply - yes, Stanford has entered my official
Dean Smith Hatred Pantheon, along with North Carolina, UCLA, and very
few others. Incessant whining by the team as a whole, along with their
fans. The refereeing was bad, but it was bad going both ways.
Knight's fourth *was* a chippie (was a foul, shouldn't have been
called), but Van Horn's fifth was just as bad - a little bit of
movement on a screen.
After a clutch second half performance, Clemson gacks it up in the
first OT. They had a six-point lead and decided to go conservative.
Not the thing to do with an inconsistent offensive team.
I'm glad I didn't see the UCLA/Iowa St. game - I would have been
apoplectic.
|
| 14.2082 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 21 1997 13:04 | 8 |
|
I wonder if that shot at the end of regulation for Utah would have gone
in if Van Horn hadn't grabbed it above the cylinder to lay it in (after
the buzzer). It looked damned close... as it turned out it didn't
matter...
glenn
|
| 14.2083 | How many for Charles last night? | CNTROL::SALMON | | Fri Mar 21 1997 13:08 | 1 |
| Anyone know how many points O'Bannon had last night?
|
| 14.2084 | Brevin Knight is not my kind of player | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass in 1998 - Final Four! | Fri Mar 21 1997 13:11 | 14 |
| I thought about that last shot too, but the repaly showed that it was
off to the right when Van Horn redirected it in.
I've never been a big Brevin Knight fan, and I'm even less so after
last night. How he survived the last 14 minutes of regulation and the
overtime is a mystery to me. Every time he drove the lane in traffic,
he just threw his body into the pack of guys underneath. Some times,
he got a foul call and went to the line. SOme times, there was no
call. Never was there called an offensive foul, and there were at
least three occasions when there could have been one called. And he
was determined to shoot every time down the stretch, missing four in a
row before getting lucky on that three.
NAZZ
|
| 14.2085 | great night of hoops!~ | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Fri Mar 21 1997 13:19 | 25 |
| based on some of what they said...
Unbelievable night of basketball. 4 OTs in 4 games. So you figger it was
a dog night. Noop. Favs go 3-and-1.
Team of the night: Kentucky. Tell me again who they don't have? With a
star and a megastar on the bench, they dominated St. Joe's in the onliest
contest that weren't one.
Clemson had it, up 4 with the ball in the firsted OT, and let it slip
away. Hats off to Bobby Jackson who hit some incredible shots and pretty
much took over the 2nd OT.
I din't think Dollar did anything all that bad. In all the games, the
refs let some things go at the end.
I got no problem with Brevin Knight. As whiners go, he's not up there
with the really greats. Neither is the team as a hole. When I think of a
whiner, I see Danny Ainge or Jeff Lebo. Coach K used to do a weasel whine
that shattered glass but he seems to have mellowed.
The real stinker for the Cardinal has to be the assistant coach who got
the T. It led to 4 points on the 2 FTs and subsequent possession.
TTom
|
| 14.2086 | this can't be right, the PAC-10 on top?! | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Fri Mar 21 1997 13:23 | 15 |
| 1997 NCAA Tournament Multi-Team Conference Performance
Current Current
Teams Teams in Teams Tourney Record % of Starters Tourney
Conference Started Sweet 16 Still Left Wins Losses Still Left Avg.
PAC 10 5 4 3 9 2 60% 0.818
Big 12 5 3 2 7 3 40% 0.700
WAC 3 1 1 4 2 33% 0.667
C-USA 4 1 1 4 3 25% 0.571
Big East 4 1 1 4 3 25% 0.571
ACC 6 2 1 6 5 17% 0.545
Big 10 6 1 1 6 5 17% 0.545
Atlantic 10 5 1 0 4 5 0% 0.444
SEC 5 1 1 3 4 20% 0.429
|
| 14.2087 | won most of 'em | HBAHBA::HAAS | angel trumpets and devil trombones | Fri Mar 21 1997 13:25 | 6 |
| > -< this can't be right, the PAC-10 on top?! >-
Careful there, Mike. This kinda thing is a perfect setup for them
Excellent Losses, dontcha know.
TTom
|
| 14.2088 | Non-Calls Again | DONVAN::SCOPA | | Fri Mar 21 1997 13:41 | 10 |
| I thought Dollar pushed off but that came after the apparently ignored
blocking foul by the guy defending Dollar. Again the refs seem to be
resigned to not call anything towards the end of the game.
As for that inbounds play I think it may have worked had the guy
putting the ball in play started from the other side of the paint.
Either that or his teammate should have started on the same side. The
play took too long to develop...but I like it and may use it someday.
Maj
|
| 14.2089 | Another Massachusetts team in a final 4 | CSLALL::BRULE | Spring Training is here | Fri Mar 21 1997 14:21 | 3 |
| Williams College plays for the Div III championship this weekend in
Virginia. They are a very good team and are fun to watch.
Mike
|
| 14.2090 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Fri Mar 21 1997 14:46 | 21 |
| Brevin Knight. I thought he was tremendous before last night and
thought it would be unanimous today. One of the truly great college
guards of the era. Made one of the great shots to tie it up in ncaa
tourney history. Two great stars in that game.
Unfortunately I have to play the tourney down a little bit since I
started earlier because of BC so I didn't catch some of the
histrionics. But if you think Knight invented whining or even Coach K
did you've got to go back quite a bit furthur.
Getting back out of three referees would be a big help since the third
defeats the purpose. They end up competing, offsetting, making up etc.
And absolutely if you're lucky enough to get a game at home and you
think (and apparently can) influence a game by strutting around then
you strut. If laying an egg will do it, sit.
Abrams of BC took what appeared to be a costly technical last Thursday
and I told Glenn that he absolutely had to get the T and get it even
with the loss of four, he couldn't wait (I thought it was O'Brien's T
at the time). Events proved correct, the refs came around and BC
pulled it out.
|
| 14.2091 | Doubled my investment, so far... | SHARE::DERRY | Color me impressed... | Fri Mar 21 1997 14:58 | 1 |
| I didn't see the Utah game but am darn happy they beat the spread.
|
| 14.2092 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Bang! Bang! Bang! | Fri Mar 21 1997 15:27 | 14 |
|
Last night was Exhibit 'A' of why the tourney is far and away
the best sports event of the year. Yeah, Dollar probably committed
a foul on that last drive but why hadn't Iowa State ever seen the
Tyus Edney play? Pick up Dollar earlier and the double him at half
court. The very last non-play was just a dumb play call.
Kentucky, despite the big win, didn't impress. They're just too weak
down low. And Turner is a very nice PG but he's got to have the ugliest
stroke since I saw Joe Frazier in the swimming competetion on ABC's
Superstars.
Keith Van Horn is the starting power forward on the all-time All Ugly
team.
|
| 14.2093 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The *PACK* is back | Fri Mar 21 1997 15:28 | 5 |
|
> Keith Van Horn is the starting power forward on the all-time All
> Ugly team.
bird brain is the owner and coach
|
| 14.2094 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Bang! Bang! Bang! | Fri Mar 21 1997 15:34 | 4 |
|
>> bird brain is the owner and coach
And you're my starting 2 guard.
|
| 14.2095 | | CSLALL::BRULE | Spring Training is here | Fri Mar 21 1997 15:38 | 5 |
| >Keith Van Horn is the starting power forward on the all-time All
>Ugly team.
Ahead of Bird? or is he your small forward?
|
| 14.2096 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | A great face for radio... | Fri Mar 21 1997 16:07 | 9 |
| ...Keith Van Horn is the starting power forward on the all-time All
...Ugly team.
I have never seen a better visual representation of a gym rat.
Soon to be a rich gym rat who can afford his own tanning booth and
plastic surgery.
And the guy is already married.
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| 14.2097 | Williams College | NETRIX::"wilkesly@mail.dec.com" | | Fri Mar 21 1997 16:17 | 9 |
| re. 2089
William's star Mike Nogelo had about the best shooting touch I've ever seen
for
a Massachussetts High School player when he played at Lincoln-Sudbury.
Unfortunately a serious knee injury between his junior & senior years in High
School cost him a shot at Division I.
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
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| 14.2098 | | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Bang! Bang! Bang! | Fri Mar 21 1997 16:46 | 9 |
|
>> had about the best shooting touch I've ever seen for a
>> Massachussetts High School player
I'd say that about Billy Herrion, who now coaches Drexel.
He averaged close to 30 a game for Oxford High back in the
mid '70s. If they'd have had a three point line back then
he'd have avergaed closer to 40 because he could light it
up from anywhere in the gym.
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| 14.2099 | Whoever thought they needed Baywatch for Superstars | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Fri Mar 21 1997 17:08 | 8 |
| .since I saw Joe Frazier in the swimming competetion on ABC's
.Superstars.
The one where he almost drowned. One of the more bizzare happenings in
the pre Gimbel era.
All ugly upstairs does seem to equal sweet on the court; none sweeter
than VanHorn.
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| 14.2100 | Small time college sports | CSLALL::BRULE | Spring Training is here | Fri Mar 21 1997 18:44 | 11 |
| My father is driving from the Berkshires to watch Williams tonight.
I saw them last year and the team is pretty impressive. They play a
style like Arkansas "40 minutes of hell", playing in your face defense
and running at every chance. Harry Sheehy who is the coach was a great
Div III player at Williams while I was growing up out there. The kid
from L/S is a great shooter. He was still wearing a bulky brace last
year.
Also Middlebury is hosting the Div III hockey finals. They are the
defending champs and could repeat.
Mike
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| 14.2101 | PC WAS ROBBED!!!!!!!! | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 24 1997 12:42 | 16 |
|
1997 NCAA Tournament Multi-Team Conference Performance
Current Current
Teams Teams in Teams in Tourney Record % of Starters Tourney
Conference Started Sweet 16 Final 4 Wins Losses Still Left Avg.
PAC 10 5 4 1 11 4 20% 0.733
ACC 6 2 1 8 5 17% 0.615
Big 12 5 3 0 7 5 0% 0.583
Big 10 6 1 1 7 5 17% 0.583
WAC 3 1 0 4 3 0% 0.571
Big East 4 1 0 5 4 0% 0.556
C-USA 4 1 0 5 4 0% 0.556
SEC 5 1 1 4 4 20% 0.500
Atlantic 10 5 1 0 4 5 0% 0.444
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| 14.2102 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Mar 24 1997 14:53 | 10 |
|
Hmmmm, survivors representing the ACC, the SEC, Big-10 and Pac-10.
Notably absent, Big East and Atlantic 10, those of most-dissed,
least-respected fame. And the lesson from the Big-12: it ain't
how you start, but how you finish.
At least with the #1 seeds, "The Committee" did a good job...
glenn
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| 14.2103 | | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | regnaD kciN, my hero | Mon Mar 24 1997 15:05 | 8 |
| Still trying to figure out WTF Arizona was doing on its last two
posessions in regulation. Dribble down and kill time? Not here folks.
Providence nearly stole that game. And why didn't Providence try to
foul at the end of OT to force Arizona to the line? They were down by
4 but there were still 5 seconds left I believe. Stranger things have
happened.
UMDan
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| 14.2104 | the 4 best hoops conferences | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 24 1997 15:08 | 1 |
| | Hmmmm, survivors representing the ACC, the SEC, Big-10 and Pac-10.
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| 14.2105 | Williams timeout killed Kansas comeback vs Arizona | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Mon Mar 24 1997 20:31 | 21 |
| Watching the Friar comeback I wonder if anyone watching Kansas comeback
remembers Lou Williams timeout after hitting a three at the 1:14 mark.
This is a typical ploy invented (seemingly) by Dean to conserve time at
the end of games and avoid anywhere from 4 to 15 seconds going off the
clock after a basket is scored and the ball is being gotten into play.
Only 5 seconds is allowed but that's from the point where the ref
starts his count. Recently a rule has been put into effect that in the
last minute the clock stops after a basket so Williams had a point,
more than a minute was left. But the refs have been careful not to let
smart players stall prior to the five second count.
What Williams did was stop the momentum that Kansas had attained and
allowed Olsen a free time out to gather Arixona together. After that
the usual fouling method wasn't enough. I felt that time out at the
time was the coaching mistake of the tournament.
Than again you have Vaughn's famous palming which HAD to be called as
he casually picked the ball up with his dribbling hand - something he's
probably done many times and not gotten called. Something he won't
have to worry about if he makes it in the nba.
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| 14.2106 | agreed, don't blow *all* the timeouts | TUXEDO::CHUBB | | Mon Mar 24 1997 20:49 | 22 |
| Yes, I've got a couple gripes (as a Jayhawk) with Williams. I'm not
saying dump him -- I think he's done very well recruiting, and pretty
good motivating (witness many very good 2nd halves).
I think he went overboard with the timeouts, so they didn't get to run
a set play the last time down the court. With some coaches running a
set play means nothing, but KU has done well with them. I think Pierce
should have been looked for to make the last shot since he was
Mr.Tournament for the team.
My other gripe was that Pollard sat on the bench for so long without
fouling out. True, he didn't have the ability on the offensive side,
but offense wasn't KU's problem, defense was. And Pollard seemed fired
up on that end. So..at least let him maybe get some defensive stops
until he fouls out. Plus its another big guy to cover so it helps free
up LaFrentz on the offensive end.
Finally, Pierce was open on the perimeter as LaFrentz drippled out to
3-pt land. But perhaps he needed to speak up for the ball. (He's
definitely the quiet type.) Aaaarrrgh.
-- brandon
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| 14.2107 | | POWDML::GARBARINO | | Tue Mar 25 1997 13:07 | 13 |
| Roy Williams and Rick Majeras have to be atop the "all-overrated" coaches
list. They definitely are good coaches, as their regular-season records
atest. But in the "big show" they haven't won anything to put themselves
among the elite, despite what Dick-head Vitale says.
This Kansas team was good enough to be in one, if not both, of the last 2
Final Fours. This team was 29-1 (?) this year and they didn't even get
past the Sweet 16 round. And this was the 1st year that Majeras got past
the Sweet 16.
I've never been a Dean Smith fan, but the man's been to 11 Final Fours.
Sure, he's only won 2 of the previous 10, but at least he's gotten there.
Roy Williams -> the next Dean Smith....please.
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| 14.2108 | Majerus can coach | IMINMK::SILVESTRI | BC Eagles - Big East Champs! | Tue Mar 25 1997 13:23 | 22 |
| >> Roy Williams and Rick Majeras have to be atop the "all-overrated" coaches
>> list.
Disagree with you on half of this one ... no comment about
Roy Williams, but Rick Majeras is an EXCELLENT coach ... he
routinely takes marginal talent and turns them into solid
ball players and an excellent TEAM ... yeah, he may not
get to the Final Four, but that is more a reflection of
the talent level of his team, than the coaching level ...
its tough to win when you don't have the horses ... and, if
you are gonna turn that into "he can't recruit" ... you
try getting basketball players to spend four years in Utah ...
nothing against Utah, but I don't see many inner city kids
packing up and moving there ...
IMO, one of the only coaches in recent memory who has shown that
he can win without the big name players AND with the big time
recruits is Rick Pitino ... he took the Billy Donovan / Marty Conlon
PC Friars to the Final Four and then won it all last year with
the Kentucky squad filled with NBA prospects ...
Vinny
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| 14.2109 | roy williams | TUXEDO::CHUBB | | Tue Mar 25 1997 13:49 | 20 |
| I won't speak for Rick Majeras as I don't know anything except how
impressed I am with Van Horn.
I don't think you can compare Roy Williams to Dean Smith just yet.
Didn't I hear that Smith took quite a while to get to his first final
four anyway? And Williams has already done it twice (91 & 93). I
think 'overrated' is a little strong. He's also in the top 5 coaches
for the speed at which he hit 200 wins. He's brought good talent in,
typically from afar. (California to be exact.) He obviously motivates
well (many very good comebacks against quality teams). And he's run a
clean program.
But on the downside..I thought Larry Brown was a much savvier game-time
coach. And I think he taught defense better. He also recruited
heavily from the East Coast coast instead the West Coast, but I suppose
that's another discussion. On the other hand, there were some
'recruiting irregularities' found after he left. And with one recruit,
Danny Manning, he made the rest of his work much easier.
-- brandon
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| 14.2110 | There's more to coaching than recruiting | TNPUBS::NAZZARO | UMass in 1998 - Final Four! | Tue Mar 25 1997 14:27 | 9 |
| Roy Williams is an excellent recruiter - how he can get California kids
to go to Kansas is a miracle to me. But he isn't a very good game
coach, and more importantly, he seems incapable of adjusting to the
flow of a game. Lots of times Kansas wins because they are so much
better than their opponents. At tourney time, the competition level is
closer, and guys like WIlliams and Dean Smith can't just send the
starting five out there and hope they can win.
NAZZ
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| 14.2111 | Spud speaks.... | SALEM::DODA | Resignation Superman | Tue Mar 25 1997 15:01 | 43 |
| From: SALEM::US2RMC::"mwiersbe@us.oracle.com" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 25-MAR-1997 11:59:43.68
To: cam3::way, salem::doda
CC:
Subj: Final Four!!!
Hey guys,
How about my Golden Gophers?!!!
If you have a minute, throw a note in the Sportsfile that I'm behind my boys
100% and think they're going to win it all! Now, finally... we're getting the
recognition we've deserved all year. 31-3, 9-1 against rated teams, finished
higher rated than any remaining teams in the tournament. It's not "can
Minnesota beat (UCLA, Kentucky, etc.) but rather can they beat us and our
quality of depth? UCLA had better talent, but crashed and burned...
We'll see.
Spud
Golden Gophers Final Four!!!
PS My last day here at Oracle is Thursday, I'll be in touch once I get set up
at the new place.
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| 14.2112 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Tue Mar 25 1997 16:27 | 5 |
| Williams is the perfect next Dean Smith. Choking away talent like he did this
year could only be accomplished by two other guys, Dean Smith and John Thompson.
Maybe 3 as Dean deciple Ed Folger crashed and burnt early too......
mike
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| 14.2113 | mild comeback | TUXEDO::CHUBB | | Wed Mar 26 1997 19:23 | 23 |
| I don't think Smith or Williams "choke away talent". They've both had
reasonable success in the tournament. Smith obviously much more. And
Kansas didn't have any Stackhouse on the team -- that's what worked to
their advantage, I think. The Iverson's and Stackhouse's are bound to
leave early for the NBA. The mostly highly touted KU player was Vaughn
and unless I'm on the Jayhawk board itself its pretty easy to admit
that his NBA chances are marginal. Oh sure..he should make a team, but
to make any waves as another undersized guard is a long-shot. LaFrentz
has an excellent touch for a tall guy, but can he bang around in the
NBA? Pierce is the most exciting player to me but I should think
another year in college would only help.
My *point* being that KU isn't getting the obviously pro-bound talent
like UCLA, Carolina, and Kentucky so that's helped them keep the the
players for longer.
John Thompson I'll agree with..he's gotten some of the best talent of
all and should have a better tournament record.
Now, it's easy to say "these 3 coaches suck", but who would you
consider the standout coaches who've done great with less talent?
-- brandon
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| 14.2114 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Wed Mar 26 1997 20:37 | 12 |
|
Although they took an early exit, Tubby Smith of George stands out im my
mind as one who does more with less. Pete Gillem of Providence would be
another. Certainly the General belongs on this list as well. While I'd
agree that Ku hasn't been getting the superstar talent of the schools
you've mentioned they have been turning over players to the NBA at a
reasonable rate. Still though the last two years Williams has come short
against lesser team. It's a trend that I think will last as he is stuck
on the principals of a fundamentals like Dean. They just not into free
lancing which is going to cost them again and again.......
mike
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| 14.2115 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | From Thurs to Sunday | Thu Mar 27 1997 11:50 | 7 |
| That's exactly what I was referring to with the timeout he called when
he had Arizona on the run. Dean preached the timeout after the basket
and Lou blindly followed. Exactly the wrong move to make at exactly
the wrong time.
Jim O'Brien has to be a the top of the list after his dismantling of
two far more talented teams in the BE Tourney.
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| 14.2116 | DC Connection in Atlanta | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Any day now.... | Thu Mar 27 1997 17:53 | 8 |
| The Lefthander has been announced as the head B-Ball man at Georgia State
University here in Atlanta. With Doug Williams the head football coach
at Morehouse College I'm beginning to wonder if these guys followed me
down from DC.
May have to catch a basketball game this fall to check in on Lefty.
UMDan
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| 14.2117 | GO WILDCATS! | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 31 1997 17:53 | 3 |
| Tough choices on tonight. I wouldn't normally root for Pitino, but he
may be my Celtics next coach. I also can't bring myself to support the
hated interstate arch-rival and enemy.
|
| 14.2118 | ditto | HBAHBA::HAAS | Where are the ChainSaws of yesteryear? | Mon Mar 31 1997 17:55 | 7 |
| I was who you'd root for, Mike.
> -< GO WILDCATS! >-
That should about cover it :-]
TTom
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| 14.2119 | | NQOS01::nqsrv609.nqo.dec.com::Workbench | Inside Intel | Mon Mar 31 1997 18:27 | 4 |
| but Mike, on the radion thisd AM, they said the whole state is pulling
for UA.
brews
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| 14.2120 | Pitino will never coach the Celtics | AD::HEATH | I killed a 6 pack to watch it die | Mon Mar 31 1997 18:53 | 4 |
|
Mike could you please join me a chorus of Beardown Arizona.......
|
| 14.2121 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 31 1997 18:54 | 4 |
| After the comment Davison made about ASU last week, I even broke down
and hoped Dean Smurf trounced them. I can't take rooting for these
people that I've always thought the worst of. It can drive a person
insane!
|
| 14.2122 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 31 1997 18:55 | 3 |
| | Mike could you please join me a chorus of Beardown Arizona.......
around these here parts, it's known as "Fall Down Arizona"
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| 14.2123 | telecommuting is looking REAL good tomorrow | HBAHBA::LONG | Taxation without representation | Mon Mar 31 1997 19:41 | 6 |
| I just hope we don't loose power tonight. 12+ inches
of wet white stuff usually plays havoc on the power lines
and trees around here.
billl
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| 14.2124 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | The *PACK* is back | Mon Mar 31 1997 20:30 | 3 |
|
Who's Tommy rooting for, the Kentucky team that he was not impressed
with. Pretty much shows wtf he knows.
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| 14.2125 | championship game tally | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Mon Mar 31 1997 20:50 | 17 |
|
1997 NCAA Tournament Multi-Team Conference Performance
Current
Teams Teams in Teams in Tourney Record % of Starter Current
Conference Started Sweet 16 Final 4 Wins Losses Still Left Tourney Avg.
PAC 10 5 4 1 12 4 20% 0.750
Big 12 5 3 0 7 5 0% 0.583
WAC 3 1 0 4 3 0% 0.571
ACC 6 2 1 8 6 0% 0.571
Big East 4 1 0 5 4 0% 0.556
SEC 5 1 1 5 4 20% 0.556
C-USA 4 1 0 5 4 0% 0.556
Big 10 6 1 1 7 6 0% 0.538
Atlantic 10 5 1 0 4 5 0% 0.444
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| 14.2126 | Pitino's crew is too talented | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Mon Mar 31 1997 21:27 | 3 |
| I have a feeling it won't even be close. Kentucky should have a
double-digit margin (12-15 pts.). Of course, some could argue that
Kansas and North Carolina should've done the same to Arizona.
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| 14.2127 | we shall see | HBAHBA::HAAS | Where are the ChainSaws of yesteryear? | Mon Mar 31 1997 21:42 | 10 |
| I don't know that much about Kansas but Arizona was the perfect kinda of
team to beat the Heels.
They have excellent team speed and top notch guards who shot well after
the firsted couple of minutes when No Carolina went up 15-4.
Against Kentucky, they'll have no such advantage but should be deeper,
if'n that matters.
TTom
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| 14.2128 | Final Tally | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375 | Tue Apr 01 1997 12:05 | 17 |
|
1997 NCAA Tournament Multi-Team Conference Performance
Current Current
Teams Teams in Teams in Tourney Record % of Starters Tourney
Conference Started Sweet 16 Final 4 Champ? Wins Losses Still Left Avg.
PAC 10 5 4 1 1 13 4 20% 0.765
Big 12 5 3 0 0 7 5 0% 0.583
ACC 6 2 1 0 8 6 0% 0.571
WAC 3 1 0 0 4 3 0% 0.571
Big East 4 1 0 0 5 4 0% 0.556
C-USA 4 1 0 0 5 4 0% 0.556
Big 10 6 1 1 0 7 6 0% 0.538
SEC 5 1 1 0 5 5 0% 0.500
Atlantic 10 5 1 0 0 4 5 0% 0.444
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| 14.2129 | | PHXSS1::HEISER | Maranatha! | Tue Apr 01 1997 14:22 | 2 |
| Well Kentucky picked a fine time to tank it. Now the "weak" PAC-10 has
won 2 titles in 3 years.
|
| 14.2130 | Finally a great game in final four | MKOTS3::BREEN | If there's nae wind then it's nae basketball | Tue Apr 01 1997 15:27 | 14 |
| Kentucky hardly tanked it, just lost in ot to a better team. Wild last
minute of regulation, for once not marred by a lot of timeouts just
wild up and down basketball. Poor Pitino, he got a lot of mileage from
his mr. Muhammed but four missed free throws and a bunch of missed
layups had him tearing his hair out.
Agreed that Mercer physically was subpar, else no number 2 for him.
Perhaps he'll redeem himself in one of the nba camps. Plus, you live
and die by the press and Kentucky gave up a lot of breakaway points and
picked up a lot of tough fouls. Minnesota took a lot more out of Ky
than Caroline took out of Arizona.
But the Pac12 looked like the top conference coming out of this
tournament just on overall play.
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| 14.2131 | | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Tue Apr 01 1997 15:59 | 12 |
|
I was glad to see 'zona win it. Always good in any sport to see the
wealth spread around a bit. The scary thing is how young they are...
And, I expect the Lute Olson jokes are now permanently a thing of the
past. For all the early exits, he's had his Final Fours, and now he's
got a ring with a team that was at times brilliant in its execution.
When you win with a young team like this one, the way this one did,
the coach can take some credit.
glenn
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| 14.2132 | | PECAD8::CHILDS | | Tue Apr 01 1997 16:16 | 9 |
|
guy wins a title and deserves respect? I don't think so. He won it because
Simon wanted it more than anyone else, Bibby handle the pressure and the
big east refs payed Slick Rick back. Certainly Zona deserved to be on the
plus side at the line but by that big of a margin? Hats off to both teams
though for an exciting game. Certainly a more enjoyable game than the last
few.
mike
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| 14.2133 | Didn't mind seeing Rick lose though | MKOTS3::BREEN | If there's nae wind then it's nae basketball | Tue Apr 01 1997 16:39 | 7 |
| You should the numbers favoring a Kentucky opponent minus any end of
game fouling parade which only occurred in the overtime. Kentucky
presses and goes after the ball with double teams etc. The whole
philosophy says that they have to let some hacks go to move the game.
There were some ghost fouls on layups throughout. I didn't see the
refs as key, perhaps because I didn't care which 'cat won.
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| 14.2134 | | NQOS01::nqsrv441.nqo.dec.com::Workbench | Inside Intel | Tue Apr 01 1997 16:47 | 5 |
|
I thought the only bad calls were the non'calls at the end of regulation.
Seemed the refs didn't want 'zona winning the game at the line.
brews
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| 14.2135 | | MKOTS3::BREEN | If there's nae wind then it's nae basketball | Tue Apr 01 1997 18:59 | 8 |
| There is a theory that one ref I knew espoused and that was that the
calling of the game shouldn't change at the end when time is short and the
team behind starts to press. Normally teams behind put pressure on and
fouls are called pretty quickly. This is partly because teams today
foul to stop the clock and the refs oblige.
But with Pitino pressing all game long perhaps refs didn't change the
way they called the Kentucky pressure.
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| 14.2136 | Cleveland loves its criminals | MSBCS::BRYDIE | Bang! Bang! Bang! | Wed Apr 02 1997 13:08 | 16 |
|
>> Who's Tommy rooting for, the Kentucky team that he was not impressed
>> with. Pretty much shows wtf he knows.
I wasn't impressed with Kentucky before and I certainly am not today.
Yes, Groiner, Monday night's game certianly did show wtf I know. Thank
you.
BTW - I guess I was wrong about at least one thing. I was sure that
either Don King or Albert Belle would be the next Cleveland
sports figure to end up in the state pen but now it looks like
it'll be Mesa instead. He certainly won't be the last, though
given how Clevlanders embrace hoodlums - as long as they can
play.
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