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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

883.0. "KERMIT and Dearcing Problem" by MPGS::RADOFF () Thu May 31 1990 20:05

    Does anyone know if KERMIT mangles .ARC files.  I have lately copied
    various PD files located in the DEC system to my Atari using KERMIT. 
    When I go to dearc them, I get two bombs, bad header statements, etc. 
    I've moved the files using KERMIT in both TEXT and BINARY block type
    formats, however, makes no difference.  I'm stuck having to use KERMIT
    as recent changes to the modems on my cluster have eliminated the use
    of XMODEM protocols.  I have had no problems in the past when using
    XMODEM.  Any thoughts, suggestions....
    
    	Steve
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883.1Read XFERINTRO.TXTPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaThu May 31 1990 20:553
Have you read PRNSYS::DUA2:[LOMICKAJ.HOBBY.ST]XFERINTRO.TXT? Do so, and
check the VMS file attributes, and perhaps try SET FILE TYPE BLOCK or
run CVTARC over it.
883.2 Try thisCOMICS::DSMMGRFri Jun 01 1990 08:1418
    On COMICS::$255$DUS9:[vaxdsm.st] are two files.
    
    KERMIT.COM
    WERMIT.EXE
    
    WERMIT is a copy of C-Kermit and KERMIT.COM is a simple frontend that
    I wrote to set up the WERMIT parameters necessary for transfer. Copy 
    the files to your account and run KERMIT.COM.
    
    I will ask for the name of the file you wish to transfer, invoke
    WERMIT.EXE and set things up ready for transfer. You can edit
    KERMIT.COM to vary things such as timeout etc.
    
    I have used it with good results every time.
    
    Hope it helps
    
    Jonathan
883.3Ckermit also supports big block sizesNORGE::CHADFri Jun 01 1990 13:139
Also, with CKermit you can set block sizes to be 1000 and 2000 download 
and upload.  Makes it go much faster.  I may have gotten backward which 
direction is 1000 and which 2000 enabled.

I've used Ckermit and UNITERM with great success.

Or try Jeff's WHACK/STRANSF -- Also very quick.

Chad
883.4ThanksMPGS::RADOFFMon Jun 04 1990 12:554
    Thank you everyone.  All your suggestions assisted me with overcoming
    my problems.
    
    	Steve
883.5large packetsUTRTSC::KNOPPERSOswald KnoppersTue Jun 05 1990 13:179
>Also, with CKermit you can set block sizes to be 1000 and 2000 download 
>and upload.  
    
    The current VMS kermit also has large packet sizes.
    
    BTW if I remember correctly you have to set the file type to 'FIXED'
    and not to 'BINARY' with VMS Kermit
    
    Oswald
883.6BTOVT::BAGDY_MMETALGod in the making !Tue Apr 23 1991 09:1336
        Rather than start a whole new topic, I decided to drop a note
        in here instead. . .
        
        Lately, I've been getting a few files off Terminator.  Two in
        specific are FLY_EX.LZH and  MONOPOOL.LZH  -  of which I also
        got  LHXARC.PRG (or was that  TTP  ?).    I  get  the  files,
        edit out the mail header and  router  notes  at  the  bottom,
        UUDECODE them, CVTARC them to `510 variable  length'  and use
        UNITERM V1.7 (which is all I have) to  take  `em  back to the
        ATARI.  Well, when I un-LZH them, I get  something  like  the
        following. . .
        
        Extracting from MONOPOOL.LZH
        Melting MONOPOOL.PRG߰}.................
        
        With those little extra characters (not exactly those though)
        at the  end of the file name.  Then, when I run the programs,
        I get two identical screens, side by side, of the same thing.
        The fly was flying  around TWICE, and I had two fly swatters.
        Um.  .  .what  am  I doing wrong ?  Any help would be greatly
        appreciated, since .ARC files are not  a problem.  Only those
        .LZH files.
        
        Oh, another thing, is that I copied  over  a  program  called
        GENESIS.TOS,  which is a Fractal Generator.  (Another  stupid
        question ?  Nah, I don't know about all  this  stuff yet, I'm
        still learning.  :^P) :^) What is a .TOS file  and  how  does
        one get it to run ?  Better yet, what don't  I  have included
        to get this to run.  When I tried to run it,  I  got  a quick
        blip  of four bombs and then the screen went back to the ICON
        screen.
        
        Thanks in advance for any/all help !
        
        Matt
883.7Wrong resUKCSSE::RDAVIESI can't tryp for notsTue Apr 30 1991 10:324
    I too tried fly a while back, not worth the effort!. I think your
    problem is because it's a low res program that your running in med res.
    
    Richard
883.8The things you learn. :^)BTOVT::BAGDY_MMETALGod in the making !Tue Apr 30 1991 11:134
        Thanks Richard. . .I'll give it a try. . .
        
        Matt