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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

195.0. "Monitor pin help" by COMICS::DSMMGR () Fri Aug 12 1988 10:33

    Hello there fellow Atariites,
    
    Could you please provide me with a little help. Unfortunately I
    do not have too much information to hand so if there is too little
    apologies for wasting your time.
    
    1) I have a Microvitech colour monitor which was originally used 
    with a Sinclair QL. It has a 7 (or is it 8) pin din on the back of 
    it and I am trying to find out how to connect it to my Atari 520STFM
    using the monitor plug. If anyone of you knows the pin connections
    I would be most grateful for any help.
    
    2) Is there any danger in formatting disks using a super formatting
    proggy (DCFMTCTR.PRG) using 82 tracks, 10 sectors and the fast option
    which on a single sided drive offers about 408000 bytes ?
    
    3) Using WHACK, how do you get the text size to approximate that
    of a vt220. ie instead of 'gigantic' text which will not allow every
    thing to fit on the screen ?
    
    
    Thanks in advance for your help in advance 
    
    :-) Jonathan Warburton-Brown
    
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195.1Whack answers, and some guesses for the othersPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaFri Aug 12 1988 15:3146
195.2...with a little help from my friendsCOMICS::DSMMGRTue Aug 16 1988 10:1931
    Jeff, 
    Thanks a lot for all the valuable info you gave me about the questions
    I posed, however I am still having problems getting my monitor to
    work. I have a bit more info now regarding the pins on the Cub,
    the problems arise when trying to connect the Atari to it. I have
    read the Atari manual but would appreciate any further help you
    or anyone else can offer. Sorry to be a pain.
    
    The pin info I have which I obtained from the manufacturers is as follows :
    
    
    
    
                       locating lug
                            !
                            V
                           === o <--- red
             vert sync.---> o   o <-- green    T.T.L
                ground -> o    o <--- blue
                             o
                             ^
                             !
                             composite sync.        
    
    
    Please note that T.T.L is written next to the DIN plug.
    
                                                                
    Once more, my thanks in advance
    
    Jonathan
195.3SEDOAS::WATTIt's Life Jim but not as we know itTue Aug 16 1988 12:136
    If my memory serves me right this monitor needs modifacation before
    it can be used on the Atari. It has TTL inputs. I believe it can
    be fixed if you write to Microvitec and ask.
    
    Peter
    
195.4You do get 24 lines with Whack's 7x7 fontPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaTue Aug 16 1988 14:2212
195.5...re: .2 ..Stuck with a Spectrum rainbow...LOOKIN::SOWTONWed Aug 17 1988 09:4238
        
    The bottom line answer to your query is...you have a problem.
    Although this may seem slightly negative, it's based on my
    experience with the same monitor.
    
    The video output from the Atari is analogue (between 0 and 3v, I
    think ) ie..the intensity of the colour is proportional to the 
    output voltage. However the particular interface in your monitor
    is designed to work on TTL logic signals (0 and 5v), ie. you can 
    only have combinations of Red, Blue and Green. The effect of this 
    is that only seven colours are available, plus Black and White of 
    course.
    So even if you limit the voltage swing to the maximum of the
    analogue signal you would still have the problem of not being able to
    display enough different colours to make it useful.

    I contacted Microvitec when I was trying to convert my monitor
    and they said that there was an analogue interface available but it
    would cost 120 pounds. Bearing in mind this represented 50% of the
    cost of the monitor, I thought it a bit steep for a board with a
    bunch of resistors...
    
    Anyway, to cut a short story long, the way I got round the problem
    was to bypass the TTL input and wire directly to the video amplifiers
    internally via limiting resistors chosen to give the right intensity
    display. These resistors were necessary because bypassing the TTL
    input also meant bypassing the intensity control.
    
    I don't remember exact connection details but I could be persuaded
    to remove the back and have a look if you like.

    
    Hope this helps...
    
    Bob