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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

428.0. "Instructional Video tapes" by MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVID (She was a mommar...) Tue Dec 15 1987 12:50

    I just bought an instructional video tape from mix bookshelf Arlen
    Roth's slide guitar. Price $49.95, seemed a bit high but an hour
    lession with somebody of this caliber woudl cost more and I get
    to keep this one forever....
    
    This is sort of a review, I got the tape yesterday and haven't watched
    all of it but I did work with the first section that deals with
    open e tuning.                                           
     
    First Arlen Roth is an awesome slide player. the tape is good, there
    is a great deal of info in a very short amount of time...careful
    study of the tape will no doubt make me close to awesome after
    heavy practice. He teaches fingerpick trad style blues (and some
    country) slide playing. There is tabluture shown from time to time
    on the screen (you need a good deck with a useable pause to get
    much use out of the tabs). As well as close up camera work so you
    can see what he's doing. The first section on open e lasted maybe
    20 mins. I play a fair slide, but fully expect to spend months mastering
    just this part of the tape. One of the things that is real nice
    is he really teaches the song "Dust my Broom" a trad blues song
    covered by ZZ top on Deguella (sp??) or the Nighthawks, I dunno
    who wrote it...but anyway he is really teaching this song inthe
    first part..even though he doesn't say so...  other sections of
    the tape apparently talk about open g tuning and open a..
    
    So I give this tape a favorable review based on 1/3 of the material
    it covers... 
    
    Anybody else use/have any of this type of instructional aids?
    
    perhaps we could work a swap/lending type situation here.
    
    dave                              
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428.52Waste of Money?WFOVX6::ADAMThu Jul 30 1987 01:4315
                    
           Videos......Are they really worth the money?
          
        I'm talking about the ones that are advertised in every guitar
    magazine around. The ones you buy to learn masterful chops, or new
    exercises for finger control, or even to learn how to play the guitar
    from scratch.  They feature heavy metal techniques, blues, jazz,
    Swing, Be-Bop, etc. My younger brother who has been playing for
    about two years, wants to purchase one of these videos to improve
    his playing. Is he wasting his time and money? 8^) 
    
                                             Thanx,
                                                Mike
    
                                            
428.53$$$for solo's(waste) $$$$ for theory(advancement)STOWMA::LANGELooks jes like a Telefunkin U47Thu Jul 30 1987 12:5219
    I think it depends. If the video in question is just a musician
    showing,and teaching his/her licks,it would be a waste.
    But if your brother can get a hold of one that will show him technique,
    theory,it would help him in his musical ability.
    I watched,and listened to a bass video from Jerry Jermont and it
    broadened my theory knowledge.
    For someone such as your brother,who has been playing for only two
    years,it would be better for him to develop his own style now,rather
    than learning how to play whats his name's licks note for note,then
    trying his own stuff.
    I had a guitar player who picked,and picked away at this particular
    rock stars guitar licks so he could sound like him....it was a drag,
    no creativity,no imagination, I quit....
    I play bass,and hardly listen to records or the radio anymore, I
    just try to apply my theory lessons,and come up with different
    techniques using a drum machine,when I'm not with my drummer.
    
    sorry to ramble people....it must be the caffeine
                                                     jml
428.54Scofield on Improv video tapeCRONIC::PCUMMINGSFri Jul 31 1987 17:077
    
    I was actually considering the John Scofield video "On Improvisation".
    But @ 49.95, I wouldn't mind splitting with somebody (buy one, make
    two).  Has anybody seen this one?...
    
    paul
    
428.1u-rent-itERLANG::SUDAMALiving is easy with eyes closed...Tue Dec 15 1987 15:2711
    I haven't tried them yet, but I found out the other day that there is a
    small music store in Burlington, MA, that rents instructional videos
    for $3.00 a night. I can't remember the name of the store, but they are
    in the mall on Rt 3A where Service Merchandise is, just off 128. They
    have one tape by Larry Carlton, and others by a bunch of other people I
    never heard of (doesn't mean they aren't good). Not as good as having
    one to keep, but $3.00 for an 1.5 hour lesson by somebody like Larry
    Carlton doesn;t seem like a bad deal. I'll let you know after I've
    checked some out.
    
    - Ram
428.2LC and SMDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveTue Dec 15 1987 16:1023
    I have the Larry Carlton video lesson and the Steve Morse audio
    tapes.
    
    The Carlton tape is pretty good.  He sorta summarizes the conscious
    aspects of his style.  Lots of useful applicable tips, not just
    another version of modes/scales/etc.  It also has an all-too-brief
    clip of him playing with his band.  I'm such a Carlton freak, that
    alone is worth the price.
    
    The Morse audio tape I found to not be quite as useful as a player,
    but fascinating as a Morse fan.  It's just not organized as well.
    There's also some really hot playing on it.
    
    Funny story: The Morse tape opens with him just sorta foolin' around
    and playing some incredible stuff.  First time I played it I had
    the stereo cranked and the window open.  After the playing ended
    I heard applause coming from outside the window.  My next door
    neighbors 16-year-old and some of his friends were outside cheering,
    waving their fists, and screaming stuff like "You are awesome".
    
    The kid knew I played so they thought it was me!
    
    	db
428.3Everyday I Haven't the BluesSNO78A::PASFIELDTue Dec 15 1987 20:387
	I've never seen an Instructional Video for Guitar. After David's
    comments I think it's about time I spent some bucks. Can anyone
    suggest a Video that concentrates mainly on Blues and all the typical
    cliched riffs etc that are the basis of all the Blues/Rock Guitar
    solos. 
    
    Colin. 
428.4More stuffNEXUS::DICKERSONWed Dec 16 1987 19:5627
    I have the Tony Rice video from Homespun tapes and a lousy
    copy of the first Barney Kessel video.  The Tony Rice tape
    is ok. There are lots of good split screen close-ups so you
    can figure out his licks.  The problem is that it mostly is
    a visual treatment of a bunch of licks.  It helped me figure
    out a couple of his songs but I really didn't improve as a
    guitarist.
    
    The Barney Kessel tape is better.  Lots of theory and opinion
    by a master.  I found it to be a little too basic, though.  I'm
    going to buy the second tape next month and will place a review
    of it in this note.
    
    BTW..  the best instructional aids I have come from Jamey Aebersold.
    Great jazz instruction but no videos.
    
    Also, for those able to attend next year, there is going to be an
    "acoustic musician university" type workshop at the Telluride
    Bluegrass festival.  Tentatively, it will be five days long and
    will include Pete Wernick, Dan Crary , and members of the Newgrass
    Revival.  Sounds pretty interesting.
    
    This is a great idea for a note... let's keep it going.
    
    Regards
    Doug Dickerson
    
428.5Sco's showCRONIC::PCUMMINGSWed Dec 16 1987 23:255
    
    John Scofield does an instructional video also.  Anybody seen it?
    
    /prc
    
428.6MIST::CARSTENSENThu Dec 17 1987 00:0519
    
    
    Ya, I saw it quite a while ago and consequently don't
    remember much about it.  What I do recall is that he stresses
    practicing.  He said he spent alot of time working on scales
    and arpegios in all the keys.  He also demonstrated his picking
    technique a little.  Perhaps someone else can give you more info.
    
    I have a Larry Carlton audio tape that I like alot.  Perhaps it
    is just the audio portion of the video that Dave Blickstein has.
    LC explains some of his techniques and also stresses that
    there is no fast, easy way to learn how to play.
    
    Funny, I always thought I could learn to play guitar
    in just 7 days, or my money back.  :-)
    
    frank
    
    
428.7BAXTA::BOTTOM_DAVIDShe was a mommar...Thu Dec 17 1987 10:3410
    RE; blues
    
    there is an Arlen Roth tape on Chicago style blues...mix bookshelf
    carries it....
    
    If you do buy it after you've had some time with it wanna loan it
    to me? I'll loan you my slide tape....
    
    
    dave
428.8Lee Ritenour's video59771::OOIWe love music,would you like it ?Fri Dec 18 1987 00:4417
I saw Lee Ritenour's Instruction Videos' ads  on Japanese Guitar mag 
issued 3 years ago.

It consists of 3 tapes.
I can't remember the details,but in the tapes LR explains how to set 
effectors ,how to read scores,how to improvise,and how to be a studio musician.

I'm not sure ,but each tape costs $80 ~ $100.
In fact,in Japan music sources are very very expensive.
For exsample,now I'm borrowing LR's live video.

My friend bought it $29.95 in San Fransisco.
But it costs 12000 yen in JAPAN (about $95 ~ $100).
It's very unbelivable,and crazy price.

If you're interested in that ,I'll tell you more details.

428.9jamey aebersoldHYDRA::BOLDUCFri Dec 18 1987 12:0318
     
    As mentioned by .4, the Jamey Aebersold series is excellent. Its
    a different approach however since its not on video.  What you get
    is an album of many pieces played by a rhythm section only.  You
    supply the improvisation.  You also get the chord progresssions
    and suggested scales.  Aebersold's series start fairly basic and
    continue to impossible so there's something for everyone.  Most people
    practicing improvisation will lay down their on chord progression
    on tape, but its really nice to have the full rhythm section.
    
    By the way, Jamey was at WPI last month.  I've seen him speak at
    Brandeis (sp?).  He packs in alot of material in one lecture.
    If your interested in an Aebersold album, I can tell you where to
    get them.   They cost about $10.00 each, not a bad price.  Is it 
    okay to mention specific music store's in the notes file?
    
    dmb
                                                  
428.10specific music stores? But of course!CIMNET::JNELSONFri Dec 18 1987 16:0415
    Jerry Martin (Martin's Nu & Uzed Music, Highland St., Worcester)
    (where I work, kinda, mebbe, I hope) has about 30 tapes - mostly
    part of a series called (I think) Star Licks.  They vary in quality,
    but there is a good range of artists/styles represented.  I watched
    Michael Angelo (fantastic!) and Brian May (not so hot, I was
    disappointed), it was enough to convince me that this was a worthwile
    video series.  There is a synopsis of content/style on the back
    of each case, so you know what you're getting into.  They included
    bits of live footage, but mostly licks, fast and then slowed down
    as the artist talked you through it. mostly guitarists, but a few
    good bass vids there as well.  I plan on renting several, as soon
    as I can afford a VCR.
    
    Jon
    
428.11Address for J.A.NEXUS::DICKERSONFri Dec 18 1987 18:5012
    Here's the address for Jamey Aebersold.  Their catalog is an
    interesting source of both instructional material and of hard
    to find records.
    
    Jazz Aids
    Jamey Aebersold
    PO Box 1244
    Albany, In 47154
    
    Regards
    Doug Dickerson
    
428.12??CHFV03::KOTSCHARJANAFri Jan 08 1988 18:591
    Has anyone heard of STAR LICKS video tapes?
428.13MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDa promise your body can't fillMon Jan 11 1988 11:5116
    yep I heard of them, but thought they were audio cassettes, you
    buy once of your fav rock star, they teach you 8-10 licks in slow
    motion and at speed...comes complete with tab....
    
    mini_review of Chicago Blues Guitar with Arlen Roth (Hot Licks Vids)
    
    It's ok, starts real basic ie: here is a blues scale in A, works
    through the scale, some basics of string bending etc...up to playing
    a major scale against the blues (again in A), comping a bit over
    7th and 9th chords, basics fills etc.
    
    A good tape for beginners at lead guitar....by the end of the tape he
    was into material that was of benefit to me (I consider myself a
    bit advanced in playing the blues lead...)
    
    dbII
428.55Star-LicksVOLGA::RAYFri May 13 1988 17:0215
    I was wondering if any bass players have checked out any
    of the Star Licks Videos.  What do you think of them.  I have
    seen the following bass videos.
    
    Louis Johnson
    Jaco Pastorious
    Earl Greco
    
    All are different, and have different styles, I learned a
    lot of tricks, from these videos, as well and some new
    technique. They give plenty of new excerises to practice.
    
    
    HTR
    
428.56where can I find 'emPOLAR::CALDWELLFri May 20 1988 20:3016
    
    
    HTR,
    
    I just today ran across your note re: Star Licks. Sorry, but I have
    never seen or heard of these video's, but it sounds like I would
    be quite interested in them, myself. As soon as I read your note,
    I called a few video shops, record shops and music stores. Nobody
    in Ottawa (Canada) has ever heard of them.
    
    Might you be able to get me a little info on them.... like who
    produces and distributes them?  ......especially Jaco's tape!!!!
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Barry C.
428.58CHET ATKINS VIDEO ?DASXPS::TARVERMon Dec 19 1988 14:0910
    
    Has anyone out there ever seen the instructional video by Chet Atkins?
    What's the price?
    Is it available?
    From whom or where?
    
    Regards,
    
    Bill Tarver
    
428.59Homespun has it...BMT::BAUEREvan Bauer,SWS NYO, 352-2385Tue Dec 27 1988 20:329
    It is listed in the current Homespun Tapes catalog, I haven't seen
    it and don't remember the price.  You can reach them at 1-800-33-TAPES,
    M-F 9 to 4.  BTW, I called them last week to order a new series
    and Happy Traum answered the phone himself and discussed my interests
    for ten minutes before recommending a less expensive series than
    the one I was intending to order.  I liked the first one I did (Blues
    Guitar Video) -- but I am getting SOLD on the service. <:-)>
    
    - Evan
428.14what's new here?PNO::HEISERhere come the big guitars!Tue Oct 10 1989 21:304
    Anyone care to update this note with some videos you may own?  I'm
    looking for a tape by someone that also addresses theory.
    
    Mike
428.1542443::DALLISONCocked and LoadedWed Oct 11 1989 10:289
    I bought the Chris Impellitteri REH video.
                                             
    Its not bad, he goes over some scales and stuff and picking patterns
    and stuff, along with his selection of licks.
                                             
    Good stuff if you like playing at Mach 2.
                      
    -Tony (got the Paul Gilbert video on order)
428.16Electric Guitar Style by Phil KeaggyPNO::HEISERhere come the big guitars!Wed Oct 11 1989 22:4719
    I would recommend it for those of you that like the styles of Larry 
    Carlton, Jeff Beck, Allan Holdsworth, Pat Metheny, Eric Johnson,
    Dick Dale, and Michael Bloomfield.  Keaggy lists all of these guys as
    his artistic influences and plays songs that display their styles in
    his songs.
    
    All 16 of his songs that are concentrated on span his 14 albums.  He
    only plays the solos of the songs, at speed, then slowed down.  Those
    of you that don't care for his religious preference will be glad to
    know that such things aren't addressed on the tape.  The focus is the
    guitar only.
    
    Techniques that he covers are volume knob swells, E-Bow, 2 hand
    tapping, use of harmonics, whammie bar techniques, string bending, 
    some scales, and his basic lead patterns.  
    
    He also gives a brief overview of his rack system.
    
    Mike
428.17looking for theory helpPNO::HEISERhere come the big guitars!Wed Oct 11 1989 22:528
    Anyone ever order a theory video/audio tape from the various companies 
    that advertise in the guitar mags?   Some of them look like something I
    could use, especially the Rock Performance stuff from Jim Gleason of
    Alameda, CA.
    
    They are expensive though so I don't want to waste money.
    
    Mike_who_just_lost_his_teacher
428.18Find someone new. WILKIE::OLOUGHLINFri Oct 13 1989 15:4215
    
    
        If your in the same boat as I am - beginner, then look for
    another teacher.  I was reading everything I could get my hands
    on and theory wasn't sinking in.  Until I asked a dumb question,
    got the answer and saw how it all worked together.  My biggest problem
    was I thought that logic applied to theory.  I found it impossible
    to deal with it when I was relating music to mathamatics - logic.
    
        If you don't want another instructor - I can't offer any help.
    Like I said.  I am just a lowly beginner.
    
        Rick.
    
    
428.19good newsPNO::HEISERRude Dog's TrainerThu Nov 02 1989 16:034
    I called GIT the other day.  They told me that they are going to make
    their classroom videos available through mail order starting next year.
    
    Mike
428.20Seems like a good ideaCSC32::G_HOUSEHooks in youThu Nov 02 1989 16:114
    I guess they were getting tired of losing revenue from a lot of their
    instructors releasing their own instructional videos...
    
    Greg
428.21"Gotta make a million doesn't matter who dies."CSLALL::GWILLIAMSThu Dec 07 1989 09:2422
    
    
            I have the Paul Gilbert video and I give it an A+. It has
    helped my playing tremendously. He covers all sorts of things from
    picking to string-skipping (and the safe use of powertools). Paul
    is very easy to follow and explains everything slowly. 
            Speaking of Paul, I have been lucky enough to meet him twice.
    Once at his clinic last year (learned a lot there!), and at the
    Mr. Big show a few months ago. Let me tell you he is one cool dude!
    He was VERY nice and extremly funny. (Believe it or not, also a
    little shy.) He signed autograghs and answered questions, and proved
    to me and everyone else there that even if your an incredable 
    guitarist/musician you can be humble and show a lot of class.
    
    
            
                                                Keep "hammerin away",
                                                                     R.C.
    
    P.S. Has anyone seen (or do you have?) the 
         Marty Friedman video?
    
428.22Gilbert is cool...ASAHI::COOPERBlood running red and strongThu Dec 07 1989 11:1910
    I met Gilbert also, and I have to agree he was the nicest guy !
    It was one of his clinics, and after (and during) the clinic 
    he was cracking jokes about JS Bach, then ripping off some violin
    concertos on his ADA powered rack, and saying "Okay, now if you
    look at the TAB's I gave you..."
    
    It's like he wasn't even trying...  Maybe he'll go down in history 
    WITH Bach.   ;^)
    
    jc
428.51New Morse instructional videoDREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeFri Mar 09 1990 18:3093
    Also posted in music.
    
    I ordered Steve Morse's "Power Lines" instructional video tape.
    It arrived in yesterday's mail.
    
    Now, I know I don't have much credibility when it comes to Steve Morse,
    but (not surprisingly) I think this is an EXCEPTIONAL instructional
    video.
    
    Unlike his "Hot Licks" tape which discuss fairly general concepts of
    playing (as well as interesting insights of his philosophy of music),
    this package gives you an excellent look and explanation of some of
    the major points of Morse's style.  It includes a pretty thorough
    explanation, analysis and application of some techniques that I've
    heard him use over and over but never really understood.
    
    If you've wondered how he comes up with all those incredible fast
    licks, or scratched your head at how that particular lick sorta seems
    to shift time, or how you can hear the suggested theme in the solo
    but hear lots of other notes but failed miserably trying to transcribe
    it or EVEN play from Morse's transcription - - - you'll love this tape.
    
    It starts out with him playing an absolutely burning solo over what
    seems like a new tune (it isn't just a repeating chord progression).
    On the second playthru of the tape it became clear that he was
    demonstrating the application of what the tape covered.
    
    BTW, those of you who have become familiar with Morse via "Tumeni Notes" 
    and might think that tune is the peak of what he can do, oughta check
    out this tune.  He can IMPROVISE equally incredible and musical licks
    at that speed (and the tape tells how)!
    
    After that, he goes into (yet another) explanation of how he warms up.
    Personally, while I'm interested to know his particular warm up
    methods, he covered it already on the audio tape he put out and there's
    nothing terribly insightful in this section.  On audio tape, the space
    was expendable - on video, I'd rather have seen other things.
    
    He then covers several techniques including:
    
    	o Scale applications, particular for high speed licks
    
    	o Arpeggio concepts
    
    	o Artificial harmonics
    
    	o A sortof polyphonic voice leading technique he uses a lot
    
    	  This was the most interesting to me.  The basic idea is that
    	  you play a fairly linear lick but SUSTAIN certain notes to
    	  suggest a theme.
    
    	  The general application of the lick is to play these sortof
    	  triplet type licks but SUSTAIN the first note of each triplet
    	  while playing the other two normally.
    
    	  It's an AWESOME technique, but it looked EXTREMELY hard to
    	  do, much yet master.  ANd believe me, Morse has mastered it.
    	  He can play apply this technique at awesome speed to create
    	  very unusual sounding licks that just wouldn't sound even close
          if you didn't do the sustaining part.
    
          Imagine trying to play a scale in the standard linear way
          while holding certain fingers.
    
          Anyway, that's how he gets those solos where you can hear the
          real "theme" but yet hear all those notes in between.
    
       o  He goes into the idea of repeating notes to get "different"
          sounding licks where it's really hard to tell what's different
          about it. 
    
    He ends with another solo (over a chord progression) using the various
    techniques he described.
    
    The tapes only an hour and certainly left me wanting a lot more.
    
    Again, "perhaps" I'm biased but I think the presentation of the
    material is really exceptional, useful and applicable (we may not
    all be able to play at some of these speeds, but even if we don't
    it's still interesting to know the theory behind those intriguing
    licks) and his "down-to-earth" "regular guy" modest demeanor just
    really makes you feel comfortable - almost like a private lesson.
    
    And of course, just watching this guy BLAZE on the guitar is enough
    for me.
    
    The name of the tape is "Power Lines" and it's available from REH
    video (I ordered through the Musicians Friend catalog.
    
    	(503) 772-5173  Product # 960003    Price $49.95
    
    	db
428.23are they any good?PNO::HEISERrock &amp; roarTue Mar 13 1990 19:124
    Anyone familiar with the Rockhouse videos that advertise in the 
    magazines?  A guy name John McCarthy is the guitar instructor.
    
    Mike
428.24UPWARD::HEISERRed Sea Beach ClubMon Apr 02 1990 16:347
>    Anyone familiar with the Rockhouse videos that advertise in the 
>    magazines?  A guy name John McCarthy is the guitar instructor.
    
    I managed to find out that the bass videos from the above company are
    done by one of the columnists of Guitar World.
    
    Mike
428.25Eric JohnsonUPWARD::HEISERRed Sea Beach ClubMon Apr 02 1990 16:3912
    I was in a local music store this weekend buying some strings, cables,
    etc., and had a big surprise when I wondered over to the video section.
    
    Eric Johnson has an instructional video out and they were playing it on
    the tube.  I stood there and watched it for about 15 minutes and loved
    it.  I plan on getting this tape now, but don't want to pay the $50
    they wanted.
    
    Keep an eye out for it through mail order if you like EJ!
    
    Mike
    
428.35Instructional TapesVAXWRK::SAKELARISFri Apr 20 1990 18:1813
    I was sittin here thinkin (instead of workin) about these instructional
    tapes and such that I've seen at both the music stores and thru mail
    order.  As it turns out I have one of 'em called "All Star Bass Licks".
    There are twenty licks on it, each one played first at speed and the
    second slowed down so you can follow. Each lick is also written and
    tabbed in an accompanying book. It's pretty good to learn the licks
    although I must admit that I have never had occaision to use any of
    them in any tunes that I've done.
    
    Any of you out there in reader land have any tapes? Anybody care to
    share their tapes or make a copy and trade?
    
    Sakman
428.36TCC::COOPERMIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack pukeFri Apr 20 1990 18:217
Now, now...

We knbow that would be against corp. policy and copyright laws ...

I suggest that you take stuff like that off line.

jc
428.37I'd like to tradeMILKWY::JACQUESFri Apr 20 1990 19:3310
    I went down to EU Wurly, when Paul Gilbert did a guitar clinic, 
    and *won* a Paul Gilbert instructional video.
    
    I would be interested in trading for something more along the
    lines of blues/jazz/country. Paul is more of a Metal player.
    
    I would even consider a trade for a beginner's guitar course, 
    because a number of people have asked me for lessons.
    
    Mark
428.38Vinnie Moore instructional video availableMPGS::MIKRUTIntentionally left blankMon Apr 23 1990 13:4112
    I have a Hot Licks video tape by Vinnie Moore called "Speed, Accurracy,
    & Articulation" that I don't have much use for.
    
    For you metalheads, though, it's a good tape in that Vinnie goes into
    Triplets, all of the modes (Ionian, Phrygian, etc., etc.), and lots
    of his favorite runs which he plays, first fast, then slowly so's that
    you can pick up on his tricks.  Also comes with a tab booklet.
    
    Looking to trade this tape for some other tape you may have of
    interest, or make me an offer.
    
    Mike
428.39The Barter SystemRUTLND::SHALLOWI can feel my hair growing longer!Thu Apr 26 1990 20:5314
    
                       Is it against the law to trade?
    
    I have the originals of...
    
    Vinnie Moore S,A,& A
    Paul Gilbert
    Frank Gambale             Looking to trade for...Greg Howe
    Michael Angelo                                   Chris Impelliteri
    Steve Morse                                      Others???
    And a copy of Vinnie Moore's first one.
    
    Bob               
    
428.40Depends on what you mean by "trade"DREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeSat Apr 28 1990 20:4211
    If by "trade" you mean exchange original tapes, that's legal.
    
    If by "trade" you mean sending a copy of what you've got for a copy
    of what I've got, that is a copyright violation.
    
    Almost anything that doesn't involve making a copy is legal.  Some
    labels have a warning about "resale", but from what I know, the
    legal status of resale restrictions is unclear - they can say anything
    they want on the label though.
    
    	db
428.41I know what you're thinking ;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeSat Apr 28 1990 20:453
    FWIW (which I doubt is very much),
    
    Making a copy for yourself before trading the original is also illegal.
428.43What if???RUTLND::SHALLOWRainy days and Mondays...Mon Apr 30 1990 16:3210
    
    How about this scenerio...hypothetically speaking, of course.
    
    I've learned all I can from a video, but I've transcribed the lessons
    onto tableture. I suppose that is illegal too? I've got to write to the
    artist, and request his permission to "copy" his material?
    
    Have they got me on a technicallity?
    
    Bob
428.44The importance of copyright lawDREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeMon Apr 30 1990 17:1033
>    I've learned all I can from a video, but I've transcribed the lessons
>    onto tableture. I suppose that is illegal too? I've got to write to the
>    artist, and request his permission to "copy" his material?
    
    I can't answer this one with any authority.
    
    I think it depends on the content and completeness of what you
    transcribe AND what you do with it.
    
    re: .7
    
    I'm just responding to questions about what I believe is legal
    or illegal.  What I believe is right or wrong can be something else.
    
    The most I will say in the "right or wrong" area, is that I personally
    feel that many people don't understand the intention and importance
    of copyright/patent law to art and ideas.
    
    In order to have art, invention, etc. in a capitalistic society,
    artists and inventors must be able to put bread on the table.  In order
    to put bread on the table, their output must have MONETARY value.
    
    Copyright and patent laws are the means to ensure that artists and
    inventors can collect the monetary value of their efforts.
    
    Now you may liken copyright piracy to minor speeding violation, but
    I would liken copying Steve Morse's instructional video to taking
    bread from his table, and forcing him to give up music and become
    an airline pilot (as he did several years ago).
    
    Copyright law is VITAL to art.
    
    	db
428.45UPWARD::HEISERMr. Potato Head Groove ThingMon Apr 30 1990 18:3814
>    Now you may liken copyright piracy to minor speeding violation, but
>    I would liken copying Steve Morse's instructional video to taking
>    bread from his table, and forcing him to give up music and become
>    an airline pilot (as he did several years ago).
    
    I agree 100%!  Some co-workers of mine have been begging me to copy
    Phil Keaggy's video for them and I refuse to.  
    
    There are cases where the artist has given his permission to copy
    though.   Phil Keaggy published permission to copy his older, out of
    print releases, in his latest newsletter.
    
    Mike
    
428.46Is this what they call a rathole?DR::BLINNEveryone writes on the walls but meMon Apr 30 1990 20:366
        I believe this controversy about copying was inspired by a note
        about SWAPPING.  To the best of my knowledge (I'm not a lawyer nor
        even particularly knowledgeable about intellectual property right
        laws), there is no law against swapping legitimate copies.
        
        Tom
428.47I'm just trying to be concise about my answerDREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeMon Apr 30 1990 21:1514
    Well, we talked about "trading" not "swapping".
    
    "Trading tapes" in my experience has usually meant making copies for
    each other even if that isn't truly defined as a "trade".  I just
    wanted to make sure that was understood.
    
    > There is no law against swapping legitimate copies
    
    Nothing about copyright law is so simple.
    
    For example, it isn't legal to buy a recording, make a copy of it
    and then sell or "swap" the original.  
    
    	db
428.48Hmm...COOKIE::G_HOUSEYou want to be alive, you got to PiledriveMon Apr 30 1990 22:3411
But it is legal to buy a record and subsequently sell it (otherwise a lotta
used record stores would be in serious trouble).  I don't see how what's 
proposed here is different then that, instead of selling it for money, you're
selling it for another video.

There's even an E-net notes conference dedicated to that very idea (CDSWAP)...

I do agree that we shouldn't be suggesting trading copies of the originals.
That's clearly a copyright infingement.

Greg
428.49WEFXEM::COTEStrom clods are forming...Tue May 01 1990 00:038
    Quite simply put, to meet the letter of the law, if you sell/swap/trade
    or otherwise give up title/ownership of the original, you may not keep
    any copies of the original.
    
    For each "entity" of the performance (excluding fair use copies) the
    copyright owner is entitled to a royalty.
    
    Edd
428.50If that's what was meantDREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeWed May 02 1990 20:189
>But it is legal to buy a record and subsequently sell it (otherwise a lotta
>used record stores would be in serious trouble).  I don't see how what's 
>proposed here is different then that, instead of selling it for money, you're
>selling it for another video.
    
    If that's what is being done, then it's legal.  As I said, IMO "trading
    tapes" has often meant trading copies.
    
    	db
428.26UPWARD::HEISERgimme that phone!Thu Aug 02 1990 00:056
    Anyone have Reb Beach's instructional video?  It's called "Cutting
    Loose".
    
    Must have all the Kittys out for it ;-)
    
    Mike
428.27video blues RAVEN1::BLAIRI'm crushing your head!Thu Aug 02 1990 19:3815
    
    I just bought my first instructional video.  It's called "Chicago
    Blues Guitar" by Arlen Roth.  I love it.  I've already added some
    new blues scales to my meager collection and really got off on the 
    B.B. and E.C. techniques.  If I was the producer however, I would
    have better close-ups (sometimes it's hard for me to see the difference
    between the b and e strings) and I would have made the TAB sequences
    easier to read or lost them altogether.  It's really a lot of fun for
    me.  It's designed for intermediate to advanced dudes, but I would 
    guess that I jumped on at least 40% of it right off the bat.  It really
    helped make a lot of the stuff my instructor taught me sink in better.
    
    Has anyone seen the Robben Ford video?  
    
    -pb
428.28rating: 4 picks! (Fender heavies)RICKS::CALCAGNIThu Aug 02 1990 20:4213
    Yeah, I've got the Robben Ford video.  My guess (although I haven't
    seen it) is that Arlen Roth's video covers more ground, i.e. is more
    general.  Robben discusses details of HIS playing style and technique,
    but not much else.  You'd be surprised at how much Robben can do with
    very little; fr'instance, he uses 3 scales 90% of the time.  The stuff
    that he does cover he does very well, however, with clear explanations,
    examples, etc.  Plus, if you like Robben, it's always a treat to see
    him play.  Recommended for beginners to intermediate.
    
    I measure the effectiveness of a intructional videos by how bad I want
    to pick up a guitar after watching.  This one rates pretty high.
    
    /rick
428.29I be likin' Robben tooRAVEN1::BLAIRI'm crushing your head!Fri Aug 03 1990 12:546
    
    	Well, I guess that means another $49 bucks towards my guitar
    	correspondence degree.  Thanks for the writeup on Robben.
    
    	-pb
    
428.57PNO::HEISERboycott hell!Wed Aug 15 1990 22:295
    Anyone ever try anyone of the ProLicks material?  These are 6 cassette
    courses that come with a book for $70.  I need to learn some
    applications for all this theory I'm learning. ;-)
    
    Mike
428.30PNO::HEISERstrong towerMon Aug 20 1990 23:263
    anyone have an acoustic video that they would recommend?
    
    Mike
428.31FYIUPWARD::HEISERrock solid! - a rockumentaryMon Sep 10 1990 23:452
    RPM (Rock Performers) by Jim Gleason now has instructional videos to
    compliment their books.
428.32ESKIMO::AUSTINWed Oct 03 1990 17:0911
    Has anyone seen Arlen Roth's Beginner's Electric Guitar video? 
    Going by the write up in the ad in GP, it sounds like an excellent
    video for those just beginning to play, like myself.  I've been
    playing a little over a year now and think I would get alot out
    of it.  
    Also, are there any video or music stores in the Worcester/Hudson
    area that rents guitar instruction videos, or sells them? 
    
    Thanks,
    Alan
     
428.33Info forth coming...CSC32::MCCLOSKEYI'm the NRASat Oct 06 1990 21:2813
    re:last ...
    
    
    I'll let you know I ordered it the other day....
    I figger if he can teach the karate kid to wail...
    
    
                (but I use to be in field service can't teach me
    nothing...; )......
    
    
    
                                  Kevin
428.34There's no defense...CSC32::H_SOHyundai insider: I drive a ChevySat Oct 06 1990 22:125
    
    So you gonna git dat Crlane Teknik down, huh?
    ;^)
    
    J.
428.60REH videos in VHS PAL format ?PLAYER::PETITTue Jul 23 1991 13:0917
	I recently ordered by mail an REH video to Musician's friend. 
Its format was not compatible with the systems used in most european
countries, I mean VHS PAL. I ordered the same cassette a few days later 
to Music Dispatch, clearly specifying the VHS PAL format I need. I received 
a cassette with the same problem. 

	Does anybody know if REH sell videos in VHS PAL format ? If
not, can someone give me the address of the company producing those videos,
so that I can ask them directly ? I already asked Musician's friend and
Music dispatch, but I didn't get any answer.

Thanks
Christian

P.S this format is certainly not a total mystery in the US, because when I 
    order Hot Licks videos, I get the right format, without asking...
428.61IOSG::CREASYClose the Curtains, Geoffrey, I'm AmphibiousWed Jul 24 1991 14:518
    Christian,
    
    I've bought REH videos in the UK, which uses VHS PAL format, and
    they're okay. However, I've bought these from shops, not mail order.
    There are mail-order shops in the UK that do REH videos though - if you
    want, I can look up addresses.
    
    Nick
428.62please do !PLAYER::PETITThu Jul 25 1991 13:5313
	Yes, please, I would be very interested to know where I can 
order these videos in UK (I wouldn't have to wait 3 months to get them...),
as well as the credit cards they accept, if you know it (otherwise, I'll ask
myself).

Thanks a lot
Christian

P.S as I will be in holidays from July 27 to September 1st, it would be
    great if you could post the answer before friday evening. If you can't,
    I'll wait until september.

428.63REH - UK supplierTRUCKS::LITTENThu Jul 25 1991 15:4533
>
>        Yes, please, I would be very interested to know where I can 
>order these videos in UK (I wouldn't have to wait 3 months to get them...),
>as well as the credit cards they accept, if you know it (otherwise, I'll ask
>myself).


Christian,

	I just spotted your request, as you have asked for a prompt response, 
and I happen to have an issue of the UK mag Guitarist in my case.......

I order my UK REH videos through......

Guitar Player Ltd
22-24 St. Mary's Gate
Rochdale
England

Post code OL16 1DZ

Tel: 0706 524483/524485

Fax: 0706 44208

They take Visa, and Access cards for sure.

Good Luck !

Dave Litten @SBP
Hampshire
England

428.64Thanks, DavePLAYER::PETITFri Jul 26 1991 09:401
428.65DECWIN::KMCDONOUGHSet Kids/NosickWed Oct 02 1991 19:2411
    
    
    A friend of mine just bought a guitar Star-Licks video at a Mass.
    K-Mart for $3.99. I'm not sure which video it is, but that's got to be a
    better price than a music store!
    
    Attention K-Mart shoppers!
    
    Kevin
    
    
428.66singing tapeFASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameThu Oct 03 1991 22:404
    has anybody ever tried that singing instructional tape advertised in
    GUITAR magazine that has a picture of some guy named Nitro advertising
    it?
    
428.67Sounds like Vernon Reid on acid! 8)NEWOA::DALLISONYou can't do that in *here*!!Fri Oct 04 1991 07:303
    
    If it is the rock play Nitro, I just hope the singing is better than
    his playing.
428.69must be a mess in a bar, eh?CAVLRY::BUCKACE Regional RepFri Oct 04 1991 12:543
    It's Jim Gillette from the band Nitro (which features the ambidexterous
    Michael Angelo on guitars), whoc can shatter glass with his 5 octave 
    voice!
428.70Nitro is the band, not the guyGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Fri Oct 04 1991 14:2810
    Yeah, Buck's got it.  The guy's NAME isn't Nitro, that's the name of
    the band.  Yeah, he's got an incredible range, but his voice absolutely
    grates me raw.  I have one of their albums can't stand to listen to to
    much of it at a time.  
    
    Michael Angelo is a smokin guitar player though, the high point of the
    band IMO.  I believe he also has some instructional material of his own
    out there.
    
    Greg
428.71TADOMP!HAMER::KRONIAMNOTANNUMBERIAMAFREEMANFri Oct 04 1991 15:043
     RE: LAST.......MICHAEL ANGELO IS A HELL OF A PAINTER TOO!
    -BILL *:^)
    
428.72fwiwFRETZ::HEISERask meThu Apr 30 1992 16:2721
    I've managed to put together a decent (ever growing) video collection over 
    the last year or so.
    
    Phil Keaggy        - Electric Guitar Style
    Phil Keaggy        - Acoustic Guitar Style (on order)
    Eric Johnson       - Total Electric Guitar
    Steve Morse        - Power Lines
    Paul Gilbert       - Intense Rock Sequences & Techniques
    Reb Beach          - Cutting Loose
    Tony MacAlpine     - Guitar Lessons
    Yngwie Malmsteen   - self-titled (what else would you expect ;-))
    Richie Kotzen      - Rock Chops
    Chris Impelletteri - Speed Soloing
    Arlen Roth         - Chicago Blues Guitar
    Arlen Roth         - Slide Guitar 
    
    The ones I've learned the most from, and try to apply personally, are the 
    ones by Keaggy, Eric Johnson, Steve Morse, Reb Beach, and Paul Gilbert.
    Some of the above were too arrogant for me to get into.
    
    Mike