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| 2624.1 | Doubtful | SPEZKO::A_FRASER | The reply below contains exactly | Mon Nov 16 1992 16:09 | 22 |
| Tony,
I picked up an Ibanez "V" for about $50 a few years ago,
intending to do what your friend plans. This had a semi
transparent sunburst finish over what looked like fancy striped
maple on the front fading into black on the sides and back but
it had been kid-hacked (name scratched in the finish, heavily
dinged and the neck had been snapped near the headstock).
Anyway, neck repaired and finish stripped and it turned out
that the fancy maple front was a piece of micro-thin veneer
over plywood - I couldn't even sand the front without rubbing
through, so odds on, he can forget about a natural finish if
his Ibanez is anything like this one...plywood doesn't have the
grain, you know? :^)
Andy
PS I ended up trading the "V" to a well known "decrepit" music
store and got my money back on the deal - it was now solid
gloss black and looked and played nice(ly).
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| 2624.2 | JMHO | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Mon Nov 16 1992 18:00 | 26 |
| Tony,
If that's what he wants, why doesn't he just get one of the new Custom
natural finished ones from Ibanez? A lot less hassle and no guessing
involved.
Nobody's going to be able to tell him if it'll work out right or not,
until the current finish has been removed from the guitar. It might
have good looking wood underneath, it might not. My understanding is
that all the 500 series instruments are solid basswood, so I wouldn't
expect to find any plywood underneath, but it may be several pieces
glued together to make a solid piece across. That generally won't
finish out real nicely.
If he hates the color and want's it a different color anyway, he might
as well try it. If the wood isn't pretty underneath, so that it could
be finished natural, he could just have it painted another solid color.
But if he really wants a pretty *natural* finish, I'd say sell it and
buy a natural finish one.
Another consideration is that the prices on these guitars are such that
the work involved in refinishing it may cost more then what the guitar
is worth on the used market...
Greg
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| 2624.3 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | and its cocked and loaded | Tue Nov 17 1992 08:52 | 6 |
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He doesn't want to pay 750 quid + on another guitar. I doubt if the
wood is plywood, but as you say, it might be several pieces glued
together.
I'll pass on your advice, thanks.
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| 2624.4 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Tue Nov 17 1992 13:39 | 22 |
| I can understand that, but it seems to me that if he want's to be
guaranteed one that'll look good with a natural finish, that's the
only way.
Maybe he should think about the cost in terms of what he'll have in it.
Unless the one he has now it trashed, if a new one costs 750 pounds,
then his is probably worth 400 used. If the labor to have it
professionally refinished is 300 pounds, he only saved 50, AND he takes
the chance that he can't get it finished the way he wants.
I read a long time ago that Fender used to select the finish for a
guitar based on how good the wood looked. If it was really pretty
wood, they'd put a natural finish on it. If it was ok, but nothing
great, it might get a sunburst. And if it looked like crap, then it'd
get an opaque color. It wouldn't surprise me if Ibanez did the same
thing.
BTW, basswood's not known for it's beautiful grain. I'd guess that
Nuno's Washburn guitars are made of something harder with a prettier
grain pattern, like poplar or ash.
Greg
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| 2624.6 | Might help | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Tue Nov 17 1992 14:08 | 3 |
| What geographic region of the world do you live in?
Greg
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| 2624.7 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | and its cocked and loaded | Tue Nov 17 1992 14:14 | 5 |
|
Greg
Well, second hand the axe is worth 300 quid and the labour cost is only
about 75 quid.
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| 2624.8 | Give it a shot! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Tue Nov 17 1992 14:17 | 5 |
| Ah, that certainly makes that a much more attractive option then.
Refinishing (by someone qualified) is an expensive proposition over
here.
Greg
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| 2624.9 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | maybe love will come again my friend | Tue Nov 17 1992 14:37 | 5 |
| Funny Tone,
My White Ibanez RG550 is getting REALLY beat up of late, and I was
also considering just sanding (or burning) the damn finish off to
natural.
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| 2624.10 | | MSDOA::BLAIR | Shut up and eat your notemeal | Tue Nov 17 1992 14:43 | 12 |
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> Greg
>
> Well, second hand the axe is worth 300 quid and the labour cost is only
> about 75 quid.
Ahem, better make that $150 quid - he'll probably need to repaint it.
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| 2624.11 | | KDX200::COOPER | I even use TONE soap !! | Tue Nov 17 1992 14:49 | 7 |
| RE: Bucks beat up 550...
Gee dood - when you sold me the pink one, it was "sorta beat up", and I
considered it MINT !
Guys, guys... a guitar with a few dings on it is SCARED ! Don't mess with
'em !!!
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| 2624.12 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Tue Nov 17 1992 15:01 | 4 |
| I *like* beat up looking guitars, they have more character! I'm always
afraid I'm gonna scratch up one that looks too nice.
Greg
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| 2624.13 | You'll be famous | NWACES::HICKERNELL | What was Plan B again? | Tue Nov 17 1992 16:15 | 4 |
| Buck, if you're going to burn the finish off, use lighter fluid and
do it on stage! %^)
Dave
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| 2624.14 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | and its cocked and loaded | Wed Nov 18 1992 15:18 | 1 |
| -1 But make sure its not plugged in at the time 8^)
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| 2624.15 | ;^) | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Wed Nov 18 1992 15:40 | 6 |
| re: Tone
No dude, make sure it *is* plugged in at the time! And make VERY sure
you get it on tape!!!
gh
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| 2624.16 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | and its cocked and loaded | Wed Nov 18 1992 15:42 | 3 |
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And make a mention in your last Will and Testament as to who you want
to recieve said tape 8^)
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| 2624.17 | Pleeze? | NWACES::HICKERNELL | What was Plan B again? | Wed Nov 18 1992 15:47 | 4 |
| *I* want to receive it. I never heard the sound of any of Hendrix'
guitars burning.
Jim Morrison
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| 2624.18 | Rathole Alert | SMURF::GALLO | Dragon Dictate User | Thu Nov 19 1992 10:00 | 18 |
| Re: Scratched guitars
I tend to agree with Greg on the subject of beat up guitars.
I mean, who really cares if a guitar gets nicks/scratches/dents
in it, so long as it plays right? I'm not careless with my guitars,
but I don't really go out of my way to make sure they don't get
scratched. After all it's just a hunk of wood, plastic and wire
isn't it? ;^) ;^)
I don't know, should I wear my asbestos suit now?
Tom
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Dictated with Dragon Dictate.
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| 2624.19 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Thu Nov 19 1992 13:29 | 8 |
| My problem is that it makes me feel bad, getting a scratch in a real
pretty guitar, so I generally try to buy guitars that have a little
road wear on them already (or ones I really don't care about the finish
on). That way I don't have to worry about it... 8^)
Besides, beat up guitars have "character"!
Greg
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| 2624.20 | Been Said... | COMET::MESSAGE | You can't dust for vomit | Thu Nov 19 1992 14:34 | 5 |
| I believe Pete Townshend said it best: "I play the f***ing thing,
I'm not in love with it." This in response to an interviewer's
question as to why Pete was smashing guitars.
Bill
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| 2624.21 | | MSDOA::BLAIR | Shut up and eat your notemeal | Thu Nov 19 1992 15:04 | 5 |
|
For me, it's not a matter of over-worrying about scratches, etc.
It's just that I take good care off all my stuff - guitars
included.
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| 2624.22 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | and its cocked and loaded | Thu Nov 19 1992 15:05 | 5 |
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Well, the guy is gonna go for it. If it looks nice I may consider
getting mine done.
-Tony
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| 2624.23 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Thu Nov 19 1992 16:25 | 3 |
| Let us know how it turns out, Tony. I'm curious!
Greg
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| 2624.24 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | and its cocked and loaded | Fri Nov 20 1992 03:58 | 1 |
| No problemo.
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