Conference napalm::guitar

    
    There has been a West Fillmore model amp in the WantAdvertiser (MA area
    want ad magazine) for awhile, cheap, too. 
    
    Garnet I don't believe ever got any US distribution happening.
    
    Want more obscure ones?  How about Plush and Earth (actually I think they
    were the same company!!)?  I remember seeing a Jeff Beck Plush
    endorsement back in 69 or so....
    
    
    						Brian 

    How about Mitchell amps? Haven't seen one of those in
    awhile...

Correct me if I'm worng here...

I read someplace the EARTH amps were designed by none other than 
Jim Marshall!!!!!  Hmmmm...A rare bird for sure...

    I remember Earth amps...they were supposed to be the amp to blow
    Marshall 'off the face of the earth'.  I thought it doubtful then,
    and my prediction was corrtect!
    
    Mitchell amps are cool.
    

    
    J.C. , Worng? sure you're worng (not sic).
    
      Earth and Plush were the only companies I knew of that copied 
    Kustom classic Naugahyde look. But I'm reasonably certain that 
    both these amps were tube where Kustom was always solid state.
    The Jim Marshall connection seems unusual but not totally 
    unlikely.
      Other old names that kicked in after another cup of caffeine:
    Univox, Standell, and Traynor. I should dig out some old mags,
    I'd probably be shocked at the historical (make that Hysterical)
    ads in it.
    
    						-BoOm-
    

    Man, you guys are really dating yourselves!  :-)

Hey, I'm only 28 *bub*, so watch it !

I read about those amps in Groove Toobs booklet...

;)

    
    
    I remember Leslie West using/hawking Stramp amps.  Others I haven't
    seen in a while are EMC and Magnavox.
    
    Kevin
    

> Hey, I'm only 28 *bub*, so watch it !
    
    So Coop, what's it like to be 28?  :-)

    Jimmy Page used to use Supro amps.  I even have one at home, a little
    practice amp version with one 6V6 power tube.  It was my Dads, he gave
    it to me (well, sorta, I rather pirated it).  It'd probably sound cool
    if I'd ever fix it up, the speaker is about shot.
    
    I've seen a couple of Mitchell cabinets in pawn shops lately.  They any
    good?  (I was thinking of looking into the 2x12)
    
    One of the local stores around here (Co. Springs) had an Earth head for
    the longest time.  It was all tube with 4 6550s.  Beastly looking, but
    might have sounded good.  If I remember right, it was dirt cheap.  I
    don't remember seeing it the last time I was there, maybe they finally
    sold it.  It was there for well over a year!
    
    Greg
                                                

    
    	When I was a teenager, my bassplayer had a Hilgen or Hillgen
    	bass amp (Fender Bassman clone). It sounded pretty good.
    
    	Anyone remember Bruce Amps? The first (I think) amps made with
    	the power amp in the cabinet, and the Preamp on the top. These
    	were made to avoid Y adapters and whatever tricks guitarists used
    	for multiple amping. But, they sounded horrible for rock, getting
    	more of an RandB, or Blues type sound. My 335 sounded nice thru it.
    
    	Guy
    

    Well, you did say rare, here goes.  When I got my Premier Twin 12
    with dual channel and vibrato, I thought I could blow out windows.
    Several years later I noticed that it had a hard time being heard
    with a Bandmaster in the room.
    
    When the old group went to the battle of the bands, we rented a
    couple Silvertones - had a separate head and that skinny metal
    box containing a single reverb spring  - and we won !!
    
    Thanks for jogging the memories...
    

    
    
    How about Orange amps?  These suckers win hands down the award
    for THE most ugliest amp made!  That dayglo orange tolex
    is nausiating!  I've heard a few that really cranked,
    and a couple (one just a few weeks ago) that were real dogs.
    
    Ralph
    
    

    
      Here's one I owned that I forgot about- Legend. Nice wood cab,
    tube preamp, solid state power amp. Claimed to sound like a Marshall
    at half the cost. Right now I think it would make good firewood!
    I did sell it , cheap!
      Speaking of amps that fit inside the speaker cab, anyone remember
    Oliver amps (named after the movie, right?). Seriously they had
    a motor that raised the amp out of the speaker cab, trick huh?
    And that was in the sixties when I played Ampegs.
      Anyone remember Kitty Hawk?
     
    				- so shoot me!
    
				- BoOm -

    Speaking of amps-in-the-cab designs...  (Other than the Silvertone
    guitar case amp, which I really don't want to talk about...  :-))

    I had an Ampeg "Tremolux" (or something like that) whose head could
    be inverted and placed inside the cab for storage, then lifted out,
    flipped over and locked in for playing.  Very strange.

    I know of an old Kustom 100w amp, complete with 2/12 cab (in matching
    tuck-and-roll vinyl) which is available for sale if anyone's interested...

    -- Sam

    Remember Acoustic?  maybe we don't wanna!
    
    What about Stage amps?
    
    Buck, who has played thru an Acoustic, a Stage, and an EMC throughout
    his career. 

    Oh yeah...
    
    Marlboro amps.  Not bad lil combo...the treble boost mad for a nice
    sound with a Distortion +.

    I don't know if this amp is rare, but I remember having a Vox combo
    that was built in '63.  I bought it in '67 for $45 and sold it in
    '69, in PERFECT condition, for $40!!  :^(  :^(  :^(
    
    Man, times haved changed!!!
    
    cheers/mike

Wow !

Marlboro amps !!

I had (and still HAVE!) a Marlboro 1x12 combo and a 150wt head.  
I used to use it with a MXR Distortion+ (and 100000 other stomps)
thru a peavy 4x12.

They are both fried and sitting in my music room closet. 

RIP's

re: Buck

    Yep, used to own Stage 1-15" combo(!) bass amp.  Was that sucker HEAVY
    for a solid state?  Wow.  And bulky, too.  Must've been 2.5' square.

    Also played thru an Acoustic bass amp.  I always thought they were 
    pretty good, actually (for "1" clean bass sound).

    -- Sam

    Talk about bulky?  An old friend of mind had a Univox 100wt all tube
    4x12 (that's right) COMBO!  That sucker was heavy.  Sounded just great
    though.
    
    Will

      remember this one? Kasino! I was trying to remember this one earlier.
    While I had my Ampeg Portaflex (that's what they called the flip-top),
    my other guitarist had a Kasino 400. LOUD and FUGLY it was! Vertical
    stripes and 8 10's! It made my Ampeg look real good I'll tell ya.
      BTW , the Ampeg Portaflex had all-tubes, a light-up LOGO, 
    four 12" Jensens, and casters to boot. In some ways I wish I still
    had that monster!
    							-BoOm

    I'm gonna date myself now.......actually since my divorce, I've been
    dating myself pretty often.....never mind that, now...|)
    
    What about SILVERTONE amps!  I use two 25 watt (I think) heads thru a
    Silvertone 4 x 12 with a Gibson SG...it was a wonderful experience in
    the summer of '69!
    
    Steve D.

    
    
    How about Kay??  My first amp was a Kay....a whopping whole
    8 watts in a 5" speaker!!  I played Pete Townshend with the
    two of them somewhere along the way.....or should I say
    I played golf with them? :^)
    
    Ralph
    
    

    
    Stage and Westbury were names used by Univox in later years to try to
    get around the negative name connotations.  Univox became Korg.
    
    Kasino was a low end amp built by Kustom.
    
    Whoever said Magnavox probably meant *Magnatone*, eh?
    
    Later Earth models cloned *Peavey* of all brands after they stopped
    making the tuck and roll.  They even cloned the Peavey clone of the
    Fender tweeds.
    
    Acoustic, Marlboro and Traynor are still in business!!!
    
    
    							Brian

    I can think of MANY not already on the list:
    
    National
    Saber Reverb
    Guild
    Baldwin
    Rickenbacker
    ShoBud
    Coral
    Rickenbacker
    Danelectro
    
    Bill Norcott
    

How about Polytone ?

Anyone remember those brutes ?  I know John Derrico does...

:)

jc (Who'll stick with Metaltronix, Marshall, Kittyhawk and ADA)

    Oops Rickenbacker was on there twice.  Both Rick and Baldwin had 
    push button tone controls (early-mid 60's, era of push button
    transmissions on cars).
    
    Also, Mike Mathews Freedom Amp (founder of Electro-Harmonix)
    

    British Amps they still make Hi-Watt, Sound City
    
    Bill Norcott
    

Push button automatics ??

Gawd, whata band name that would be !!

;)
jc

>   Push button automatics ??
    
    Some of today's Toyota Camrys have 2 pushbuttons on their trannies.
    One for "Normal" and one for "Power Booster".
    
    Mike

    
    
    re .25
    
      >Whoever said Magnavox probably meant *Magnatone*, eh?
    
       Yup.  Sad when the mind goes. 8-(
    
       Kevin
    
    

     I used to have a "SOUND" amp that I practiced with...Ithink it
    was really an accordian amp,I think it was 50 watts,all tube with
    a single 15" speaker,reverb and tremolo. 2 channels with volume,
    bass, treble.It had UGLY gray vinyl and a silver/gray grillcloth;
    but had a swell power light dead center on the control panel, cut
    like a jewel and dark blue.....it looked cool! Inside all the
    components were "pinned"on blank ckt.board stock and soldered together
    with individual wires......a real nightmare!!!!
    -Bill
    

    Did anyone mention Sunn amps?

    re: .33
    
    Yeah Jim, our old rhythm guitarist had one.  He ended up spilling a
    beer into the ventilating screen where the tubes 'usually' sit.
    
    Needless to say, that old Sunn now rests in that big amp-junkyard in
    the sky!
    
    Of course, it was still junk even BEFORE he spilt that budweiser!
    
    cheers/mike

    Did someone say SOUND CITY was still in business?
    
    I used to have the sweetest SC speak cabinet with six 10's.
    Would love to find it or something similar again!
    
    Brian

    re:  .3
    Earth? By Marshall?
    Ahhhh no. I mean no. Earth was a company from Brentwood, N.Y. 
    (Long Island to be exact). Earth, Kasino were almost identical
    in style and in the materials they were made from. El Cheapo
    particleboard from Gros*mans, but then again it didn't cost you
    $500.00 for a 2-15" bass cabinet either!  ;^)
    
    Also FYI "Mountain" used those "West" amps too!
    
    Talk about a rare amp...  how about those Standel amps? Made in
    the very early 60's with homemade circuitboards and then potted
    in very small "pill boxes" from the local 5 & 10 store. I retubed
    one for a guitarist I was working with a looong time ago and was
    really amazed that at a volume of "10" (full-tilt) it had absolutely
    NO DISTORTION and loud enough to kill small animals! I haven't heard 
    anything like it since. JBL's were standard equipment on them too!
    
    Fred (ex-Long Islander)

    A not too old one is Pignose.
    
      re;27 Jeff... Brute! Twas actually a Traynor! In the Kitchen with the
    GK & Traynor...those are old memories.
    
    
    Did Heathkit or JC Penney have any amps?
    
    
    J/

    
    Heathkit had a few amps.  I recal a 120 watt, 2-12" bass combo, a 60
    watt 2-12" guitar combo and a Super-Beatle like amp with 120 watts,
    three channels ( for guitar, bass and Microphone use respectively) and
    a matching 2-12" plus horn cab.  Allied Electronics also sols a
    "Knight-Kit" guitar amp.  Lafayette Radio used to sell Univox stuff
    with Lafayette nameplates.
    
    Standel amps are hard to come by these days since by potting the
    subassemblies, they're impossible to repair!!  You have to replace the
    whole subassembly, and without schematics, it's impossible to reverse
    engineer it.  They probably potted stuff for ruggedness.  Too bad any
    failure becomes fatal!!!
    
    							Brian

RE: .37

Yeah John, that was like 6 years ago...

Where have all the flower gone ??

jc

...and can anyone remember pignoses' big competator Dwarf?

wasn't there a battery powered thing called a somebody or other's Freedom amp?

dbii

    
    
    Has Lab Series been mentioned yet?  My roommate in college had one.
    I *believe* it had a built in phase shifter.  You could get an eerie,
    early Al Stewart sound from it with an acoustic.  Were they any good?
    
    -pat
    

    
    	Did anyone mention HI-WATT amps.  I remember seeing Eric Clapton
    	the first night of the US Derek and the Dominos tour with
    	them.
    
    	He sounded great.
    
    
    	t
    

    	Those were the Gibson SG series which had a Phase shifter in them,
    Lab series amp's had parametric eq and were a decent solidstate amp.
    	It was a great sounding amp........
    
    						Rick

   re: .-1

   Pignose is still in business.  Just saw an ad last night in GUITAR.

   It was "Mike Matthews" Freedom Amp - already mentioned, but yeah, what
   a weird setup.  100watts, 2 10s, "bite" control, and it could be run on
   batteries.  About 25 'D' cells, if memory serves...

   I've still got a "ColorSound" battery powered amp.  Uses two 9v latern
   battteries, and only sounds good on "10".

   -- Sam

   P.S.  Yes, I always thought LAB Series were pretty good (and flexible)
   but they never caught on...
  

      What a bunch of brains out there! Here's a few more relics:
    
      SG systems - marketed by Gibson in the mid-seventies. Extruded
    aluminum edges and denim-like tolex, Yuk! And I think they were
    the first to put in a built in phase shifter.
    
      Road - Rugged looking solid state amps, again extruded aluminum
    edges ( like a flight case) and round metal grills over the speakers.
    I remember these as being quite loud and a particularly impressive
    bass amp was part of the line! I think Ross marketed them.
    
      Gibson Les Paul amp - seriously, Gibson tried to use the LP name
    to pust a line of solid state amps many moons ago.
    
    						-BoOm-

anybody mention Tusk? the first "programmable" amp...total junk

dbii

    
    re .10    Supro made some really funky looking amps to accompany
    their lap steels. They featured Dobro Resonator plates for speaker
    grilles. Of course, let's not forget that Supro, National, and Dobro
    were all related at one time or another. 
    
    This is off the subject, but years ago there was a device on the
    market called an "Ice Cube". This was designed to work with Fender
    amps. It got plugged into the reverb send/return jacks and supposedly
    had a dramatic effect on the sound of the amp. I've never actually
    heard one, but I have always been sceptical about what they did to the
    sound. The fact that they were rather short lived indicates they were
    not too useful.
    
    Re. Pignose, The little Pignose battery powered amp is still being
    made, but the larger combo series is long gone. The small Pignose
    is actually a real bargain with an average selling price of ~$89.00
    In any given year, lot's of new products come and go. The ones that stand
    the test of time seem to become immortal. For instance, it is a safe
    bet that the Strat, Telecaster, Jazz Bass, Precision Bass and Les Paul
    will all survive into the 21st century. Chances are Marshall, Mesa,
    and Fender will still be the leading manufacturers of amps. I would
    expect to see some of the more obscure amps fade into the wood-works.
    
    Mark Jacques
    

    I had a Wilder amp once. IT $*cked.
    
    Dennis

    White?
    Alamo?
    
    	Actually Acoustic which primarily came out with solid state stuff
    in the 70's also made a couple of tube amp's too.  Last I heard was
    someone bought the name to slap on there amp. Was it Traynor? Plus
    Acoustic amp's had a lifetime gaurantee too...????
    	Sound City is still around as a company......?
    
    Hey Mark I remember "ice cubes"!  
    
    

    
    Re: Ice Cubes
    
    All the Ice Cube was was a thing that let you use the reverb stage of
    your amp for an overdrive.  It plugged in where the reverb usually did.
    Check out a Fender schematic, the verb cicruit consists of a driver and
    a receiver.  The Ice Cube allowed you to crank in some overdrive by
    dialing up your reverb knob....unfortunately you lost your reverb!!!
    
    Plus, by using the footswitch you could kick the overdrive in and out. 
    Not bad for $30 or whatever they sold for.
    
    							Brian

    I have a LabSeries L9.  It's 100watt, solid state, with an EVM-15S
    speaker.  A couple of unique touches, at least for a mid-70's vintage
    amp:  
    
    	parametric mid range EQ (well, semi-parametic: fixed Q, variable
        center frequency, variable amplitude)
    
        additional high-frequency shelving filter, for ultra-high-end
        adjustment..my guess is 4-8kHz range.
    
        a very smooth compressor built-in.
    
    LabSeries (actually, Moog) made an L-5 and and L-7; one had two 12's
    and the other had four 10's (sound familiar?).  BB King endorsed 'em
    for a while.
    
    The 15 has too 'round' a sound for guitar, IMHO, but it's perfect for
    pedal steel.
    
    One other weird amp I recall was an 'Airline': I had both a guitar
    and an amp from them (Montgomery Ward hosue brand).  One monster 
    eight inch speaker...good for practicing distortion.
    
    Regards,
    John Kelly
    

>    One other weird amp I recall was an 'Airline'

    Made by SUPRO (them & National made the guitars)

							Jens    

    re: pignose
    
    Yup, just bought one a few weeks ago.  I used to have a Pignose 30/60
    as a practice amp a long time ago, but haven't seen any since.  They
    were great for miking through a PA system.
    
    cheers/mike

    Epiphone....
    

    One really cool entry we've forgotten...
    
    
    
    PARK amps!  Jim Marshall turned out these wonderkind amps when he was
    'makin em right'...sold under a surname to avoid legal entanglements
    (distributor issue).
    
    I'd like to have an old 50wt Park top myself.

Yeah !!!!!  Park !!!!!

Not Earth but PARK was made by Jim Marshall...

See, I'm not crazy, just a little forgetful.

:)

    Yeah, yeah...
    
    :^)

    The biggest, most successful manufacturer of guitars (Gibson) has
    a history of missing the mark as far as amps are concerned. Most of
    the amps they have marketed over the years have been flops. The only
    two models that were somewhat interesting (and have maintained some
    appeal to collectors) is the EH150 and the 78 rtv. The 78 rtv was
    a stereo amp. It featured 2 30w power amps, and reverb on one of the
    2 channels. The cabinet on the rtv was angled in the front to improve
    the separation.
    
    I used to own a small 50w Gibson combo with 2 12" Jensen speakers.
    I used it in a band with guys that played through mammoth Ampegs
    and Dual Showmans. I started using an Electro-Harmonics LPB1 to get
    a little extra volume out of it, and ended up smoking the transformer
    and both speakers.
    
	I must be getting real old. Time to go home and take my Geritol.
    
    	Mark
    

I have a Lab Series L-11 that I play through all the time - its a 4x12 
cabinet. I like it a lot, actually....

Alan S.

    re: Heathkit
    
    Yeah, my friend had a Heath guitar amp when we were in college.  Gotta
    be one of the worst sounding beasts ever.  (of course the speaker
    laying on the floor with no cabinet didn't help it any...)
    
    re: Hiwatt
    
    Rare??  Now way!  These are still make and have been used by many big
    name artists.  Pete Townsend used Hiwatts for years.  (Nice sounding
    British tube amp!)
    
    re: Lab Series
    
    Didn't they make some tube amps too?  I remember two or three years
    ago, Guitar Player had an article like "Top 10 Best Buys in Used Amps"
    and the Lab Series was one of the ones listed.  Orange was also listed. 
    I don't really remember the rest.
    
    Greg

    
    I have the Guitar Player amp issue at home. Lab was mentioned as one 
    of the ten best buys in amps, but I'm pretty sure that all Lab amps 
    were transistorized. Larry Vignault used a Lab amp for years, and it 
    had a great sound to it. For some reason, however, he kept blowing 
    speakers with it. I suspect this may be because he kept replacing them
    with Celestians. If he had replaced them with high-power drivers like
    EVM or JBL, he may not have had this problem.
    
    Re. the Ampeg portaflex,  There was another model that featured this
    same design called the B15. This featured a single 15" speaker and the
    head flipped over into the cab for portability. When the amp was in
    use, the tubes were sitting up at the top of the chassis, and were
    visible through a mesh cover. This model was very popular with Bass
    and keyboard players alike.
    
    Another funky line of amps from Ampeg was the Gemini I and Gemini II.
    These were not really obscure, since they were used by many players
    and are still available in the used market, but as far as looks go,
    these are real classic. They feature swirled Naugahyde covering, a
    chrome-plated top mounted chassis, bat handled knobs, and a "tv-front"
    enclosure similar to the old Fender deluxe.
    
    Mark
    
    
    

    re-1
    
    	Hiwatt is still being made,but there not the amp's Townsend used
    nor are they like the ones Dave Reeves built.....
    
    	Lab Series amps were all solid state,however the SG systems amp's
    came in both solid state and tube....
    
    
    							Rick
    

    
    Re: Plush amps
    
    Does anybody have any more information on Plush amps?  A friend of mine
    is going to let me borrow a Plush amp (actually I think it's a whole PA
    system) indefinitely to use in my home studio, if I want. Is this stuff
    a pile of crap, not worth the space it will take up, or what?
    
    Mike D

    
    The only news I have is that every Plush amp I have ever seen for sale
    in a music store was always "as is", not very comforting.  As an
    earlier reply stated, they were tube amps.  "Borrow"?, "indefinitely"?,
    why not try it out.  Own a fire extinguisher?  8^)  8^)
    
    						Brian

	A guitar player in one of my previous bands had a Plush. It
	was pretty much a Twin Reverb type clone. The difference was that
	there was a seperate amp head & speaker cabinet & the output
	transformer was about 50% larger.

	I thought that it sounded quite exceptional & put out quite
	a lot of sound (he played lead guitar in the band).

	Why are they 'AS IS'?? The company went bankrupt around 1973 &
	parts are not easy to find, altho people have been substituting
	Twin Reverb Transformers for the original Plush output transformers
	as needed. They are fixable.

	Other than some rips & tears (his was red sparkle) and a missing
	button or 2 (these were push & tuck with 1 inch foam rubber
	underneath), it was highly functional.

							Jens

	I've seen these mentioned in a few places? Are they the same as
	the Ampeg Rocket/Reverb Rocket? A freind of mine had a

		Reverb Rocket II

	that was fantastic. He eventually moved up to a V4.

	Re Sunn: Fender owns them now and builds tube amps at the old
		sunn factory.

	Re Traynor: still being built in Toronto by Yorkville Sound. The
		just rolled out a line of amps bearing the "Stage" nameplate.
		I had a traynor YBA1-A bass head 6*10 cab back in high
		school.

	Future Obscurities:

		How about the new Hohner Vampire line?

    The bass player I worked with back in the late seventies used a
    Plush head and bottom.  I forget the exact wattage (certainly over
    150) and the bottom had two 15"s.
    
    It was a tube amp.  Never had any reliability problems with it,
    and it sounded quite warm and fine.  I liked it better than the
    similar Kustom amp that our organ player was running his Hammond
    through.
    
    Brian

    Red sparkles and foam?
    I wonder if there are any guitars out there to match?

    >		How about the new Hohner Vampire line?
    
    What's this, like, the amp that sucks?

    The Vampires are made for Ultrasonic Pickups.
     
    "SUCK TONE" as the ads say!  :________)

    re .64  I'm not worried about old amps being sold "as is". To me that
    only means that the finish is probably scuffed up or ripped
    (not pretty to look at), but that in itself doesn't mean that it isn't
    working properly or is unreliable. 
    
    Mike D   

    What ever happened to E.M.C. they made some pretty nice stuff. I
    had a G800 for a long time.
    
    Don't forget thet Gretsch made amps... And wasn't there a Venture
    amp. Airline was the Monkey Wards brand as Silvertone was Sears.
    A British company H&H Electronics also made some interesting stuff.
    
    I've used alot of Wilder PA colums but had necver seen one of their
    amplifiers. 
    
    Jim
    

   
    >> A British company H&H Electronics also made some interesting stuff.
    
    Yeah, before I got my Marshall I had a H&H 100 Watt,  a real good
    combo.  I still have a slave & a pa amp of theirs I use for monitors or
    small gigs.  All transistor stuff but they had a feature on the combo 
    called "valve sound" & it was a pretty good imitation, spring reverb
    built in, a very versatile tone control section, pre/post gain, 3
    channel (no switching) #1 bright #2 normal # 3 crud.  
    Ah! takes me back, Peavy & Roland killed em off as they were putting 
    more features in smaller boxes (this H&H was HEAVY, major problem, only 
    combo I ever saw without a flight case that had castors!).
    
    Cheers
    		Pete.
    
    Cheers
    		Pete.

    re.  last >> Only combo I've ever seen without a flightcase that had
    >>casters
    
	Your kidding, right ??
    
    	Most Fender combos come through with pull out casters, At 
    least all Twin Reverbs do. The Ampeg B22X I owned had a dolly that 
    attached to the bottom. 
    
    	Just a nit !
    	
    	Mark
    
    

    I still use an H&H, in fact we have three of their amps in the band. I
    play lead through a 150Watt Head called a 'Performer'. It has twin
    channels, switchable from a foot switch, with compression on channel 1
    and sustain on channel 2. I Turn the sustain way up on Ch 2 and get a
    nice dirty sound from it. It also has a built in effects unit with
    Echo, ADT (Auto Double Track), Phasing and Chorus. Reverb is available
    on top. Effects can also be swithed from the foot switch, you just have
    to select the one you want on the amp control panel. The amp uses
    Mossfet technology which is supposed to give a valve type sound from SS
    electronics, maybe one of you engineers understands that better than I.
    I play a Jap Fender Strat through this and get a lot of flexibility.
    Our Rythem guitarist has got a similar amp and our bass player uses a
    100W bass amp combo which has built in graphic equalizer. 
    
Richard 
    

    
    Re -2 Well.....I've led a sheltered life I guess:-).
    
    re -1 Great to know HH is still kicking, are they still available?
    I know someone looking for a new amp who'd be interested.
    
    Cheers
    		Pete.

    Our rythem player only just bought his, it's supposed to be new but I
    think it's been in the shop a long time. I don't see any adds in any
    of the rags so I guess they are defunct.
    
    Richard

    I started out with an Ampeg VT-22 w/2-12's and an optional dolly.
    Haven't seen one in years... wish I'd never sold it! That was in
    1971-73 when the Rolling Stones were using Ampeg.
    
    Have you all forgotten Leo Fender's "Music Man" line of guitars
    and amps? I believe Leo introduced the first hybrid guitar amps
    (i.e. transistor front end and tubes providing the final amplification.
    I've got the 410 configuration with 130W in one cabinet. With a
    master volume control it can be crystal clear to pretty good crunch.
    Yes, I've finally broke down and bought a rack mount effects processor
    so I don't outdate myself to bad but I'm happy with the Music Man!
    
    My brother was inspired to run out and lay down federal green on
    an Acoustic 360 back in 1971 after hearing Spirit in concert: Mark
    Andes was blowin' heavy bass through one. I believe it featured
    one 18" speaker and had a "lifetime" warranty! Yes, those were the
    daze..................................

    Back in 76 or so, I had an Ampeg ReverbJET or something like that...
    50wt, 1x1 combo that I used with a Stage 50wt 1x12.  I think from
    the volume produced, neither were TRUE 50wt amps, but hooked up
    in stereo, it didn't sound too bad for the 70s raunch-guitar sound.
    
    Buck, eternally using dual-amp setups!

                Speaking of  Ampeg  VT-22, I saw one in the local
                paper  today.    Don't  remember  how  much  they
                wanted for it though. 
                
                I started out with  a  Sunn  Bass  amp.   The old
                vacuum tube anchor style.  I've still got it too,
                but  since  I  got  the  Yamaha, I don't  use  it
                anymore.  Maybe some day, but I'm sure the  tubes
                will be he|| to find !
                
                Matt

<<Speaking of  Ampeg  VT-22, I saw one in the local
<<paper  today.    Don't  remember  how  much  they
<<wanted for it though. 
                

I had one of these about a millenium ago.

The power head alone must have weighed close to 70 lbs.

    I remember a two-page ad in the 6/82 issue of Guitar Player;  it showed
    Alabama on stage with Music Man guitars, basses and amps.  I've known a
    few people who have owned them, but I seldom see them anymore....
    
    Anyone remember the Sho-Bud steel amps?  The *words* on the controls
    (volume, treble, mid, bass, etc.) were backlit, as were the control
    numbers -- really handy when the stage lights were low or non-existent;
    at any rate, they looked cool!
    
    I seem to recall Emmons making an amp as well. Funny, it seems that
    once Peavey started making the Session 400, all the specialized steel
    amps like Sho-Bud and Emmons just vanished...
    
    Magnatones?  In high school, I knew *two* people who played 'em;
    everyone else had Fenders.....
    
    And for my last blast of the past, I remember well the Univox bass amps that
    had the nameplate of "Realistic" -- yup, Radio Shack! (The same company
    whose "Realistic" nameplate was on my first electric bass, a Hofner 
    Beatle Bass copy I wish I'd kept...)
    
    Okay, now please pass the Geritol ;^)
    
    						--Eric--