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| 1372.1 | | MARKER::BUCKLEY | That child blew a child away | Tue Jul 11 1989 15:46 | 15 |
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Yeah, you got it...G=guitar, 12=size of spkr, 75=spkr wattage capacity.
Marshall had used 25, 30, and 35WT celestions in their earlier cabs,
which are now sought out in droves my guitarists, as they realize much
of the marshall sound came from the voice coils of the speakers being
driven into overdrive! Celestion offers a "Vintage 30" speaker, but
its no more than their normal 75WT speaker with a differnt voicing put
on it. Rumor has it that Celestion will be re-introducing the ORIGINAL
30WT speaker to their line in the near future, so be on the lookout!
Celestion also offers 100WT and the 150WTx sidewinder speaker. It was
like their answer to the JBL line. Its ok, but really too clean for
rock guitarists tastes!!
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| 1372.2 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Fri Jul 14 1989 14:03 | 5 |
| The Vintage 30 speaker is a 30 watt, and the vintage 70 is 70 watt.
They come in 8 and 16 ohm. They sound different because the high
end frequency response is reduced. You can't get the same speakers
in the Marshalls , they're customised for Marshall by Celestion.
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| 1372.3 | I donno | MARKER::BUCKLEY | That child blew a child away | Fri Jul 14 1989 14:33 | 9 |
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>The Vintage 30 speaker is a 30 watt, and the vintage 70 is 70 watt.
I donno...I heard differntly from a guy who works for Celestion R&D.
He said the Vintage 30 wasn't a 30WT speaker at all! He said they
would be coming out with the REAL 30wt speaker soon. Again, he
said the V30 was a re-voiced 70watter.
??????
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| 1372.4 | I'll back up Buck | RICKS::CALCAGNI | | Fri Jul 14 1989 18:15 | 21 |
| ditto. I also know someone who works for Celestion (hey Buck, maybe
it's the same guy).
According to him, the "Vintage 30" is really rated at 70 watts; it was
intended to provide modern players with a speaker that would
approximate the sound of the old "greenback" 30 watt Celestions, but
with the ability to handle larger ammounts of power without getting
fried. Interestingly the voice coils of the Vintage 30's are actually
much closer in construction to the VOX Bulldog speakers that appeared
in old AC-30s.
Celestion will be doing a re-issue greenback 30 watter that is rated
at a true 30 watts. In fact, I've held the first prototype in my hands,
and they've certainly done a nice job of recreating the cosmetics
of the old speakers (haven't actually heard it yet). But my guess
is that these will be of interest primarily to people who want to
restore an old cabinet and/or have one of the old heads. For practical
gigging or use with modern amps, the 70 watt "Vintage 30" is probably
still the best 12" of this type on the market.
/rick
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| 1372.5 | Would wurlitzer's steer u wrong? | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Fri Jul 14 1989 18:56 | 5 |
| What I said is just what Wurlitzer's told me when I bought 2 Vintage
30's; I could have ordered 70 watt or 30 watt, I ordered 30 watt;
ditto impedence. It may have been made from parts of 70's, but the
thing says 30 watts on the back. The magnet struck me as alot smaller
than the 100W EV's I have, but they're shielded and huge.
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| 1372.6 | Bigger is better! (ar ar) | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Be excellent to everyone! | Fri Jul 14 1989 20:34 | 6 |
| re: .5
The magnets on about every speaker I've ever seen look smaller then
EVs. EV uses some monsterous frame/magnets!
Greg
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| 1372.8 | | RICKS::CALCAGNI | more zip stupid juice | Mon May 15 1995 16:39 | 14 |
| Don't know how much help I'm going to be. According to the Marshall
book, the G12M25 and the G12H30 accounted for 80% of Celestion's sales
in the 60's. There's no specific mention of the G12L25 or any clue as
to why they would be re-issuing this speaker.
The letter suffix after the "G12" refers to magnet size; L = light,
S = small, M = medium, H = heavy, T = medium (same as M, used on modern
speakers). So a G12L25 has a lighter magnet than a G12M25. Since
I haven't heard these particualar speakers I can't comment on tone but
you might reasonably expect a G12L25 to overdrive easier and have less
bass response.
/rick
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