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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

696.0. "Yamanose Pigmaha ... !!!" by VIVIAN::BENNETT (Ridin' along in my L.A.V.c) Tue Jun 28 1988 09:05

    Help,
    		Is it o.k. for me to use my Pignose as a pre amp
    		to the clean channel of my Yamaha G100-210.
    
    		I love the distinctive sound of the Pignose and
    		need to amplify it for band use.
    
    		I have been told by a couply of people that by
    		simply plugging one in tother I can/will damage
    		the Yamaha.
    
    		Any info greatly accepted.
    
    		
    Graham ...
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696.1MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDbehind blues eyes...Tue Jun 28 1988 11:197
    do not put the output of your pignose into the input of your yamaha..
    you could do some damage. The amp in the pignose is transfomer coupled,
    and it's extremely impedance sensistive (input resistance to your
    yammy will be magnatudes higher than the pignose wants to see).
    Your only solutiopn would be to hook a direct box between the two.
                             
    dbII
696.2Yes, BUT ... !!!???VIVIAN::BENNETTRidin' along in my L.A.V.cTue Jun 28 1988 15:0910
    
    re -1.
    > hook a direct box between the two. 
    
    Please expand if you would, I don't understand fully
    
    Thanx in advance. 
    
    Graham ...
    
696.3RANGLY::BOTTOM_DAVIDbehind blues eyes...Tue Jun 28 1988 17:418
    a direct box ais a gizadeechee that allows you to hook a speaker
    output to a line/guitar input, essentially they hook onto the speaker
    output wiring and give you a jack to plug into, you can get balanced
    low impedance (for mixing board inputs) or standard 1/4" jacks.
    
    to be honest I don't know how much it would cost.
    
    dbII
696.4Direct BoxCSC32::G_HOUSEGreg House - CSC/CSTue Jun 28 1988 18:498
    To elaborate a bit, as I understand it, a direct box allows you
    to balance impedence between two pieces of equipment that have
    incompatible input/output requirements.  Some also allow line level
    matching.
    
    I've seen several around for under $100 US.
    
    Greg
696.5Why CAN'T You Do It???AQUA::ROSTObedience to the law guarantees freedomTue Jun 28 1988 20:348
    
    I'm confused.  I thought that you could plug into the Pignose's
    headphone output to drive another amp.  In fact I used to play with
    a guy who did just that.
    
    ??????????????
    
    
696.6RANGLY::BOTTOM_DAVIDbehind blues eyes...Wed Jun 29 1988 10:355
    Hmm my pignose (logn since deceased) didn't have a headphone output...
    
    perhaps you can...
    
    dbII
696.7Headphone ?VIVIAN::BENNETTRidin' along in my L.A.V.cWed Jun 29 1988 10:438
    HEADPHONE SOCKET ? 
    
    Just Jack in(Guitar) Jack out(headphone ?) and 9v supply (small Jack).

    The jack out is on the back of the unit, can't remember what it
    is labelled up with.
    
    Graham ...
696.8Famous Pignose ?VIVIAN::BENNETTRidin' along in my L.A.V.cWed Jun 29 1988 10:4810
    BTW my Pignose was given to me by a chap here who is about
    to leave Digital London and move to the Boston area.
    
    The Pignose has a 1970(ish) Jeff Beck stage pass for London
    Hammersmith odeon on it.

    Are 2nd 3rd 4th ! hand Pignose Amps worth anything ? even with
    the adition of the sticker ?
    
    Graham ...
696.9Pignose 100-7ANGORA::JACQUESWed Jun 29 1988 12:0417
    You can still buy Pignose amps new. They haven't changed 1 thing
    on the Pignose (I'm talking about the small battery powered version.
    I think they are called 100-7). Mr. C's sells them for $99.99
    
    I bought mine used for $50 I would think that would be the average
    value of a used one in good shape.
    
    Pignoses have 3 jacks on them. The input jack is on the front just
    below the volume control. On the back they have a pre-amp output
    and a mini-jack for using a 9v power supply. I have plugged the
    pre-amp output into my Twin Reverb and it works OK. The sound
    still comes through the speaker in the Pignose.
    
    I don't think it would hurt your Yamaha amp. Give it a try.
    
    Mark Jacques
    
696.10At least I *think* I remember...DOODAH::WIEGLERWed Jun 29 1988 15:324
    I think I remember the ads for the pignose (back when they first
    came out) stating that you could use it as a practice amp OR as
    a preamp to get low volume distortion sound.  I thought that was
    supposed to be one of its selling points.
696.11Distort me pleaseBUSY::JMINVILLEArthur Dent in another dimensionWed Jun 29 1988 15:386
    That was/is one of its selling points.  Back several years ago,
    some guitarists (of renown) used the Pignose in combination with
    their regular amps to get a "screamin" distortion (or some such
    thing).
    
    joe.
696.12MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDbehind blues eyes...Wed Jun 29 1988 16:346
    $99 wow what a rip off....you used to be able to buy the actual
    amplifier board at Lafayette electronics for $12.95, add a speaker
    and a volume pot and you've got a pignose...somebody made megabucks
    on that idea...
    
    dbII
696.13Price is justifyable !!MORRIS::JACQUESWed Jun 29 1988 18:5732
    Most people looking to buy an amp for $100 opt for a Crate, Dean
    Markley, Gorrila, etc, but none of them run on batteries. The only
    battey powered amps that I know of are the Pignose, Peavey Solo series
    amps, and a few years back there was one called the Field-mouse,
    but I have never seen one in a store. The thing about the Pignose
    that is great is the size and weight. It is so small you can literally
    clip it to your belt, or sling it around you neck with a standard
    guitar strap. 
    
    Years ago I read an interview with Frank Zappa. At the time (around
    1978-1980 timeframe) he was using Pignose amps both on stage as
    a preamp, and in the studio. 
    
    The main complaint I have about my Pignose is cabinet vibrations.
    It is so small, and the whole thing hinges in half. It has the
    tendency to rattle when you crank it up all the way.
                                                      
    I have used mine for recording onto my Porta-One with much success,
    but it doesn't offer you a huge range of tones, since it doesn't
    have any eq on it at all. It works good with my Boss CS3 compressor/
    sustainor. I am thinking of getting a few more Boss effects to use
    with it since they all run off batteries. 
    
    I find for the money I paid, ($50 used) I have definately gotten
    my money's worth out of my Pignose, and I'm sure I will get several
    years of enjoyment out of it. In fact, I am going on vacatoin this
    weekend and My Telecaster and Pignose are coming with me, as well
    as my Flattop.
    
    Mark Jacques
    
    
696.14Freedom AmpDARTS::OPERThu Jun 30 1988 01:579
    
    
    		In the early 70's, I had a battery powered amp
    	made by Electro Harmonix called the Mike Matthews Freedom Amp.
    
    	That sucker was LOUD.  I'm sorry I ever sold it.
    
    	Guy Novello
    
696.15Wot's my VOX ???ODIHAM::JOYCE_AAndy Joyce, UK.SRACThu Jun 30 1988 08:4210
696.16An Escort methinksWARMTH::KAYDIf music be the love of food...Fri Jul 01 1988 13:0213
Andy,

    If this is a battery/mains type of amp (with an old-fashioned looking
switch on the top to select between the two) then I think it's the same as
the one which I have, which is a VOX Escort. I paid more than five pounds
for mine (more like forty-five, and that was *years* ago).

    If you have any friends with similar bargains, let me know!!

Regards,

Derek. (SWAS Warrington, UK)