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2165.1 | | GERBIL::PELKEY | With a third less polyunsaturates | Thu Apr 11 1991 13:26 | 13 |
| Well, I can't quote current prices,, but if you have a few days,
you may want to think about Mail Order from EAST COST SOUND in
Danbury Connecticut.. So far they've beat alot of local stores by
a wide margin.
Example: DSP128+ I paid 299 for it at East Coast (Feb. 90). Everyone else
(those who had it...) wanted alomst 100 dollars more.
Just a thought for comparitive pricing/shopping. East Coast is
really reliable too... (Bought lots of stuff, including a Strat
via mail order.. No problems at all.)
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2165.2 | Many mail order places are selling DSP256's for $299 US | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Stereotype, monotype, blood type... | Thu Apr 11 1991 14:50 | 6 |
| How long will you be in the States, Nigel. The best prices on this
stuff is through the mail order houses (as .-1 suggested), but it takes
some time for it to arrive (and you'll probably need someone local to
use their address to ship it to).
Greg
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2165.3 | speaking of fx... | ZEMI::HEISER | desert rat | Thu Apr 11 1991 15:19 | 60 |
| Article 4558 of rec.music.makers:
From: craigv@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Craig A. Vanderborg,407 Thurston,54044,)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: FX dilemma
Date: 9 Apr 91 00:34:05 GMT
From article <5775@tellab5.tellabs.com>, by tomh@tellabs.com (Tom Huber):
> I'm looking to buy an effects box to use with a couple synths. I've narrowed
> the field to either a QuadraVerb or a MultiVerb III. Can anyone provide some
> information on either of these, or a comparison of them? I'm particularly
> interested in the flexibility of the effects routing, the programmability, and
> the MIDI control.
Unfortunately, I have become very knowledgable in this area in the last 6
months. In my opinion, you are considering two of the WORST contenders in
the field. In particular, I really hate the QuadraVerb. I recently bought
one and liked it so much that I returned it immediately.
REASONS:
1.) It was a very, very noisy box (hum in particular..) Miraculously, it
seemed somehow to induce hum in the other DSP units in my rack.
2.) Very low quality reverb. The Alesis and ART reverbs are about the
worst in the field of DSP, in my opinion. The QuadraVerb is reasonably
good at other things (pitch and modulation effects), but NOT reverb.
If you buy a QuadraVerb, just call it a "Quadra" because the "Verb"
ain't worth mentioning :(
Beware, netters. After finding out the "hard way", QuadraVerb and ART
MultiVerb are JUNK, as far as doing musically useful things.
The Solution:
Run, don't walk to your nearest YAMAHA dealer. SPX-900 is a very good example.
I realize that it costs almost twice as much, but it is more than 10 times
better. Honestly, I cannot say enough good things about this box, but I will
try:
1.) Really, really good ("Tier A") reverbs. I mean amazing reverbs.
Alesis just cannot touch these reverbs with a 10-ft pole.
2.) Dynamics processing. SPX-900 has a very good, very FLEXIBLE
compressor/expander that can be used by itself or in MFX configurations
3.) Really great modulation (chorus, flange, modulated pitch) effects.
Great DDL. Quite extensive MIDI control. Most effects are
available in MFX configurations, but the "stellar reverbs" require
100% of the processing power.
"Feature for feature", you might conclude that, say QuadraVerb, has more
"features per $". BUT, I contend that the only thing that really matters is
SOUND QUALITY. Be warned that ONLY the YAMAHA stuff does anything great
for under a grand, the other stuff is really "just junk". The YAMAHA FX-500,
by the way, which is a "guitar box", seems to be much better at just about
everything (especially reverb) than the QV for about the same dough. Buyers
beware!! The music-industry magnates want to give you JUNK for $$$!!!
Craig Vanderborgh
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Craig A. Vanderborgh 607-255-4044 craigv@snoopy.tn.cornell.edu
Materials Science Dept 407 Thurston Hall vanderborgh@crnlches.bitnet
Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-4414 chesscav@crnlns.bitnet
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2165.4 | And people thought we were bad... | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Stereotype, monotype, blood type... | Thu Apr 11 1991 15:30 | 12 |
| I don't read the Usenet music newsgroups, but based on some of the
things I've seen reposted in here, I'd have to say that there must be a
lot of people there that are just totally anal-retentive tech heads!
And people accuse us in here of overly concentrating on high buck
equipment...
I've known several people that had Quadraverbs and they all said they
were very quiet and had good reverbs! I personally think that the ART
reverbs are very good.
Greg
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2165.5 | poor kids | ZEMI::HEISER | Help, I've fallen & can't get up | Thu Apr 11 1991 15:36 | 7 |
| We're not bad, just different ;-)
There is some stuff in there that you can read without laughing ;-)
A large percentage of those posters are college kids. I usually read
in that context.
Mike
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2165.6 | yup | GOOROO::CLARK | a high, lonesome sound | Thu Apr 11 1991 15:57 | 5 |
| re .-1
yeah, that's why I stopped reading USENET stuff. It seems like
most of the people are writing because they enjoy seeing their
names at the top of the articles.
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2165.7 | | GERBIL::PELKEY | With a third less polyunsaturates | Thu Apr 11 1991 16:33 | 16 |
| Editorial correction. I MISTAKINGLY SAID 299 FOR A DSP128+ in reply .1
<<Example: DSP128+ I paid 299 for it at East Coast (Feb. 90). Everyone else>>
<<(those who had it...) wanted alomst 100 dollars more. >>
It was actually $199... (woops.. 'slip of the keypad..)
Oh..,. The DPS256 for $299 is a GREAT BUY - by the way.
Again, East Coast Sound 'dhey been Vedy-vedy-good-to-me...'
I recommend them highly. And they're fast too..
If you do go M.O.,, ask for overnight. Maybe an extra $17-20 dollars,
but you get it the next day.... (Of course, in Mass. it only takes a day
from Connecticut anyway...)
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2165.8 | | ICS::CONROY | | Thu Apr 11 1991 17:48 | 15 |
| The latest Factory Music catalog I got (Summer 91) lists
the Boss SE-50 Stereo Effects for $329.00. That seems pretty
low.
Factory Music is a mail order place but I believe you can
go there and buy stuff direct.
Give them a call for other prices. They've been very helpful over the
phone any time I've called there.
Factory Music
18 East Water St.
Rockland MA (617)871-0005
Bob
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2165.9 | Address & Phone # for East COast Sound? | WEORG::WIEGLER | | Thu Apr 11 1991 17:51 | 4 |
| Please post an address (and toll-free number if available) for East
Coast Sound. Do they have a catalog?
Thanks.
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2165.10 | Recently opened in Boston | GERBIL::GARDELLA | | Thu Apr 11 1991 18:20 | 10 |
| East Coast is based out of Connecticut, I think. But they recently
opened a store in Boston. It's at the end of Hemenway Street near
Berkeley School of Music (around the corner from Daddy's, EU
Wirlitzer).
The (Boston) number is (617) 247-6141. They can set you up with
catalogs. Brian Charles manages the guitar department.
PG (beginner - friends starting to call me Slowhand Jr./ EC Jr.)
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2165.11 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Real men don't play covers | Fri Apr 12 1991 10:10 | 8 |
|
re.0
I'm in the UK and have a Yamaha FX500 and various other bits for sale.
Mail me on the above if you're interested.
-Tony
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2165.12 | | GERBIL::PELKEY | With a third less polyunsaturates | Fri Apr 12 1991 10:15 | 5 |
| E.C.S Connecticutt number....
203-748-2799
I don't think they have a toll free # b.t.w.
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2165.13 | Eastcoast 800# | CSCOAC::JOHNSON_ROB | | Fri Apr 12 1991 12:26 | 3 |
| Eastcoast toll free number...800-356-5908.
Robert Johnson
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2165.14 | couldn't resist | GOOROO::CLARK | a high, lonesome sound | Fri Apr 12 1991 13:03 | 5 |
| re .11
are they, perchance, NAUGHTY bits that you have for sale?
- Eric Idle
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2165.15 | | GERBIL::PELKEY | With a third less polyunsaturates | Fri Apr 12 1991 13:41 | 3 |
| <<Eastcoast toll free number...800-356-5908.
shows ya what I know!
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2165.16 | In here?? | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Help me, Spock | Fri Apr 12 1991 14:46 | 5 |
| re: .13 (!)
> Robert Johnson
Woah...
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2165.17 | What voltage does yours use? | MALLET::BARKER | Pretty Damn Cosmic | Fri Apr 12 1991 16:58 | 11 |
| This voltage difference could be a big problem to me. It seems that I
must already rule out the ART SGE as it has a 110V only internal power supply.
Do any other owners of similar FX units know whether theirs are
multi-voltage?
I may be best sticking with those that use a wall-bug, I believe all
the half-rack size ones must use an external power source e.g. Yamaha FX500,
Boss SE-50.
Nigel
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2165.18 | Don't look in my bag Mr Customs Man | MALLET::BARKER | Pretty Damn Cosmic | Tue Apr 30 1991 11:41 | 47
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