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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2145.0. "PUTTIN' YOUR OWN TOGETHER" by FREEBE::LOUVAT () Mon Mar 18 1991 20:14

    FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LIKE TO DO IT ON YOUR OWN...THAT IS , PUT A GUITAR
    TOGETHER THAT IS A ONE OF A KIND BECAUSE IT'S YOURS....MAY I SUGGEST A
    STEWART-MACDONALD BUILD-UP. I BOUGHT A "STRAT" STYLE BODY FOR AROUND
    120.00...PUT A GOTO TREMELO SYSTEM ON IT....PUT A DIMARZIO DUAL STACKED
    HUMBUCKER AND A COUPLE OF FENDER LACE PICKUPS....WIRED THEM IN A BINARY
    FORMAT WITH A SERIES/PARALLEL/SINGLE COIL SELECT SWITCH ON THE DIMARZIO
    AND ALSO A PHASE SWITCH.....PUT A SOLID ROSEWOOD NECK THAT I GOT FOR A
    REALLY NICE PRICE ON IT...PUT SPERTZEL MACHINE HEADS ON THE NECK....
    ALL THE HARDWARE IS GOLD EXCEPT FOR THE PICKUP SWITCHES.(WHICH, BY THE
    WAY LOOK REALLY SHARP AS CONTRASTED AGAINST THE BLACK SCRATCH-GUARD AND
    GOLD TAIL PIECE. (I BOUGHT THE BODY ROUTED AND FINISHED FOR THAT PRICE)
        AS FOR THE SOUND....I WAS A BIT SKEPTICAL AT FIRST THAT I WOULD GET
    A LESS THAN MEDIOCRE ONE, BUT IT SURPASSED MY MOST OPTOMISTIC OF EX-
    PECTATIONS. THE SUSTAIN IS PHENOMENAL, THE SOUND IS FROM THE SWEETEST
    TO THE DIRTIEST. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS TO ANYONE WHO
    HAS A BIT OF TIME AND ABOUT 450.00. I HAD THE GOTOH BRIDGE PUT ON FOR
    ME BY "MUSICAL INSTRUMENT SERVICE CO." NEAR BERKLEY. A GUY NAMED WOLF.
    HE'S A GIANT ON GUITAR WORK. HE ALSO SET THE GUITAR/NECK/INTUNATION UP
    FOR ME. THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT FOR THE SAME PRICE IN A STORE
    YOU COULDN'T GET A GUITAR LIKE IT AND SET UP FOR YOU FOR LESS THAN HALF
    AGAIN THAT PRICE........
         HAS ANY ONE DONE THIS? HOW DID YOU MAKE OUT? DO YOU AGREE THAT ONE
    CAN GET A RATHER GOOD INSTRUMENT THIS WAY. LET ME HEAR FROM YA.
         
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2145.1CX3PST::WSC100::COLLUMOscar's only ostrich oiled an orange owl todayMon Mar 18 1991 20:246
Sounds like fun.

BTW, somebody else will let you know I'm sure: Typing in all caps in VaxNotes
is understood to be yelling.  You might want to go to lower case.

Will
2145.2PELKEY::PELKEYWith a third less polyunsaturatesTue Mar 19 1991 14:207
re:.1

Maybe he wanted to yell ?

Never know...

:*)
2145.3DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDvictim of unix...Tue Mar 19 1991 16:013
Yeh I've done it...check the for sale note :-)

dbii
2145.4DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEGreee Veee KingTue Mar 19 1991 18:393
    
    
    	WHAT?  WHAT??
2145.5Steve!SMURF::BENNETTI'd rather be flailingTue Mar 19 1991 20:312
	PIPE Down before we have to wet sand yer tonsils!
2145.6DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDvictim of unix...Thu Mar 21 1991 19:1627
I obviously need to expand my original reply...

You can put together a pretty good guitar for about $300-400. However, you can
buy a pretty good used guitar for the same or even less. You could build it
for less but you're gonna sacrafice on the quality of the pickups as that's
the most probable place to cut costs...

I built a tele using a warmouth body, duncan pickups, stewart mcd's hardware
and a local finish job, oh yeah a fender neck. It came out pretty good. It plays
as well as any $300-400 guitar I've seen in the shops. The fact that I'm selling
it has more to do with me than the guitar.

If you're willing to buy higher quality parts, for more money, I think that
warmouth's compound radius necks are the absolute balls...the one I put
on my heavily modified fender lead one is about as good as a neck can get. But
that neck retailed for $275 (I got lucky and got it used for much less).

rolling your own has one big advantage: other guitar players will come up and
say "what the heck is that thing anyway?". You can make it the way you want it.
Lately (until I got the ESP I just bought) I had been desiring a 24 fret
with a floyd rose...I was looking at Honsono as they make both bodies that
are designed to handle 24 fret necks as well as the necks...I was looking at
about $400-450 just for the neck and body. Obviuosly this can get a bit pricy.
But it would have been exactly what I wanted, and just the way I wanted it.
Luckily I got asuch a steal on the ESP that I was able to table this effort.

dbii
2145.7FREEBE::REAUMEPTC Booster!Fri Mar 22 1991 12:299
      I've considered building my own, but after checking with other
    players that have done it I realize that it probably would take
    a couple tries to get it right. A "build your own" may give you some
    uniqueness and pride, but you'll lose out in quality and resale value
    (IMHO).
      Hmmmmm- Stratocaster Plus Ultra in Crimsonburst? Let the pros at
    Fender build me a NICE guitar!
    
    							--B()()M--
2145.8It IS worth it!ZURFCC::WEHLENDWed Apr 03 1991 07:5510
    I'm building my own acoustic guitars (Martin copies) and I'm also in
    the process of starting with an electric bass. To .7:
    You will not lose out in quality! It all depends on your patience. Most
    people are too eager (so was I!) once they get their first kit. Take
    your time (my first guitar took me a year, including the re-build of
    the cracked soundboard!) and you will have a fine instrument. Resale
    value? A custom built guitar usually sells for more.
    I look forward to hearing some more.
    
    \roland
2145.9GURU::tomgLeo Fender - R.I.P.Wed Apr 03 1991 11:436
Re: .-1 "Resale of "custom" guitars"

I'm not so sure I agree that custom guitars (re)sell for more. I agree that
a custom guitar by a *recognized* builder will sell for more, but not 
any old homebuilt instrument, no matter the quality.

2145.10I donno...GOES11::G_HOUSEStereotype, monotype, blood type...Thu Apr 04 1991 00:5618
    re: Resale of custom guitars
    
    I'd agree with Tom, in fact I'd go further to say that most custom
    built guitars (not made by a recognized luthier) sell for far less then
    they are worth.  I can't imagine a custom built noname acoustic guitar
    going for the price that a Martin would, regardless of it's quality.
    
    Here's a perfect example (close to home);  I recently bought a custom
    built Strat style guitar which has a Warmoth birdseye maple neck, a
    full set of EMG active pickups, nice sealed tuners, and a Fender style
    bridge for the equivalant of about $200.  This was not from an
    individual desperate for money either, but from a store which is known
    for their high prices and generally poor deals!  The guitar plays like
    a dream and I couldn't have touched the parts necessary to build it for
    twice the price...
    
    Greg (who loves that guitar too!)
                      
2145.11resp. to getting less for itFREEBE::LOUVATMon Apr 08 1991 14:2216
    I really can't figgure out why anyone who takes the time to put one to-
    gether, and it turns out to be a nice playing/sounding instrument,
    would want to get rid of it for what ever the price. True, it wouldn't
    bring the same return in money as would a "name brand", but it isn't
    be the money that would determine its worth. If it's a good guitar and
    you've used it for a period of time and it served you well, it would be
    like selling a part of you...a bit of your sweat or even the memory of
    a burnt finger while you were soldering your electronics in. And esp-
    ecially a certain amount of pride in your work. 
      I quess it's really a matter of value placement..probably the inst-
    rument falls far short of anything that you would use on a gig...Even
    then, for me, it would be hard to do because I would want to compare
    my improvements over the first if I were to attempt to build another.
      No-body asked....just my opionion.
    
     Bill 
2145.12I could not sell my own!ZUDEV1::WEHLENDThu Apr 11 1991 06:557
    Bill, you said it!
    Maybe I was exaggerating on the "a custom built will sell for more...",
    I guess I wanted to say the same as Bill: My own built guitar would 
    definitely sell for VERY MUCH, not because of its physical value but 
    because I couldn't sell it due to all the good times that are bound to it!
    
    \roland
2145.13RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEReal men don't need whammies !Thu Apr 11 1991 10:015
    That's the catch - you'd *ask* more, but you wouldn't necessarily *get*
    more ... it's hard to sell someone one of your memories !  8^)
    
    
    Scary