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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1063.0. "Les Paul into Klipschorns" by BLUMON::EVANS () Fri Jan 06 1989 17:34

    
    I only play at home and have been running my Les Paul through
    my stereo.  I plug the Les Paul into a Roland 8 channel mixer
    and run this into one of the AUX options on the preamp.  I use
    an SAE 100W amp to drive Klipschorns.  The sound is clean 
    regardless of the sound level - this setup will play as loud
    as I will ever want in MY livingroom.  What I am looking to 
    add to this setup is some effects (the sound is a little too
    clean), a drum machine and a wireless.  Anybody out there have
    any experience in doing this sort of thing?
    
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1063.1my experienceRAINBO::WEBERFri Jan 06 1989 18:1617
    When I was playing guitar synths alot, I used a couple of Altec
    1218 cabs driven by a rack setup. To get a decent guitar sound,
    I used preamps designed for this purpose (there are some notes about
    this in here somewhere.) The last one I used was a Fender Twin Preamp,
    which gave outstanding results.
    
    A decent reverb is a must-I prefer a spring reverb, but the digital
    ones are more flexible. A multi-effects unit (again, lots of notes
    on these) is a big help too. Try some reverb on the drums, too.
    
    Despite spending a large fortune on this setup, I never liked the
    guitar sound from the hi-fi, closed back cabs as much as a standard
    guitar amp, and as soon as I stopped playing synth, I went back
    to a combo amp. I think you'll spend more trying to get a good sound
    from your guitar this way than if you just buy a small combo amp.
    
    Danny W
1063.2SuggestionsELESYS::JASNIEWSKIjust a revolutionary with a pseudonymFri Jan 06 1989 18:1935
    
    	I have roughly the same setup, except I have a Tapco 6 channel
    mixer and Altec VOTs, and a Marantz 100WPC amp.
    
    	I've done board mixes in my home studio too, where the guitar
    player's effect train goes directly into the mix, with no "speaker"
    amplification at all.
    
    	My recommendation is the following;
    
    	1. Get a compressor in line between your board outputs and your
    	amplifier inputs. This will limit the dynamics, which gives
    	an apparently louder sound, yet actually keep things tamed below
    	the "blowout" point of your drivers.
    
    	2. Build up a effects chain in your board's effects loop. Usually
    	one short delay device (reverb) and one long delay device (echo)
    	is sufficient for most setups. A Yamaha SPX90 and a straight
    	digital delay of some type, for example.
    
    	3. Build up an effects chain for your guitar input. Most players
    	start with a graphic EQ, a distortion unit of some type, a chorus,
    	perhaps a wah of some type (auto or pedal) and maybe an additional
    	digital delay - just for the guitar channel. 
                                                    
    	4. A good stereo graphic EQ, between the compressor and amplifier,
    	can help "balance" the sound some in it's total tonality. I
    	imagine that with those horns, things can get a little "squawky"
    	and you might want to adjust a number of the treble frequencies.
    
    	Currently, I have a compressor for sale - see my earlier entry.
    	Someone else had a SPX-90 for sale recently...
    
    	Joe Jas