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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

928.0. "Warm Up Techniques" by POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA () Tue Oct 18 1988 17:24

    
     Would anyone like to share there warm up secrets before
           doing a gig!  I'm looking for some exercises I can
           use to loosen up. If poss. could you show them in
           tabulature form?  
    
          thanx
                   Armen k. 
    
    
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928.1finger Pick'n good!POBOX::KOTSCHARJANATue Oct 18 1988 17:4027
    
    I've got a good finger picking exercise!
    
    
    1
    2
    3          0               0                       0                0
    4      4       4       4       4       4       4       4       4        4
    5    2   3   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2   2    2   2
    6  0               0               0       0               0
                                                                               
    
    1         0                0               0
    2           0            1   3               0
    3       0     0        0       0       2       2       0     0          2
    4     4         4    2           2   0   0       0   0     0          2   2
    5   2              3                                                0
    6 0                                2               3     3      2 3
                                                                               
    
    
    1
    2
    3          0                0
    4      4       4        4       4
    5    2   2   2   2    2   2   2   2   2  5  7
    6  0                0
928.2Some freindly arpeggios to help you kick out the jamsMARKER::BUCKLEYRCMP, PMRC - No similaritiesTue Oct 18 1988 18:1837
    To warm up I play the following arpeggios ascending and descending on
    the neck.
    
    Lets call em Arp#1, Arp#2, Arp#3, and Arp#4 for basic principles.
        #1-maj          #2-min          #3-dim         #4-aug 
    ===========     ===========     ===========    ===========
    | | | o | o     | | | | | o     | | | o | o    | | | | | o
    -----------     -----------     -----------    -----------
    | | | | o |     | | | o | |     | | | | | |    | | | o o |
    -----------     -----------     -----------    -----------
    | | o | | |     | | o | o |     | | o | o |    | | o | | |
    -----------     -----------     -----------    -----------
    | | | | | o     | | | | | |     | | | o | o    | | | | | |
    -----------     -----------     -----------    -----------  
    | | | | | |     | | | | | o     | | | | | |    | | | | | o
    -----------     -----------     -----------    -----------
    x x 3 1 2 1     x x 3 2 3 1     x x 2 1 2 1    x x 4 2 3 1
              4               4           3   4              4
    
    Asc:n v n v/n       n v n v/n       n vnv n/v      n v n v/n
    
    Des:v n v n/v       v n v n/v       v nvn v/n      v n v n/v
    
    n - denotes downstroke
    v - denotes upstroke
    
    As I ascend in the arpeggios, I use an up & down picking technique
    starting with a downstroke.  When I reach the top note I slide my hand
    up 1 fret, reverse the picking, and descend the arpeggio. Continue up
    the neck til you can't go any further, then come back down.  The
    cross-string up and down picking helps to loosen up the hands a lot. 
    
    After that you can do the same Arp's with sweep-picking (obe stroke
    each direction)!!
    
    Buck
   
928.3loose as a goosePOBOX::KOTSCHARJANAWed Oct 19 1988 16:5712
    
    I've  seen some Riffs used by guitarists to loosen up.
    
    1
    2  15  14      17  14      15  14      19  14      15  14      14
    3          14          14          14          14          14  
    4
    5
    6
                                                                     
    
    
928.4From a beginner.....SUBURB::DALLISONa waffer fin mint ????Thu Oct 20 1988 07:4855
        
        When I'm 'jamming', or just practising I use a combination of 
        scales, arpeggios (similar to Bucks) and weird progressions.  
    	I also have various finger exercises, so that I can improve my 
    	right hand alternate picking, and also improve my left hand 
    	fingering, and I've listed one variety below:
                          
                          
        In the first example, go down through the strings, and then 
        move along the neck one fret, then go up, then along and go 
        down, until you reach the 12fret, then go back up to the nut 
        again on each case.  Make sure you pronounce all notes 
        properly and use strict alternate picking.  
        
        The numbers represent the fingers used and STARTING frets (ie, 
        in the first example, once you have gone down through the 
        strings once, you would continue, starting on the 2nd fret, so 
        you would be playing not 2143 but 3254.  Get it ??
        
        There are 24 mathematical possibilities with this exercise,
        I've entered three and will enter the other 21 possibilities 
        when I have time.
        
        Have fun...
        -Tony
        
        -----------------------------------------------------------
        
        1 E|| 	       			 	  	   2 1 4 3
        2 B|| 	       			 	  2 1 4 3
        3 G|| 	       			 2 1 4 3
        4 D|| 	       		2 1 4 3	 
        5 A|| 	       2 1 4 3
        6 E|| 2 1 4 3 
    	      n v n v  n v etc..    
    
        -----------------------------------------------------------
        
        1 E|| 	       			 	  	   4 1 3 2
        2 B|| 	       			 	  4 1 3 2
        3 G|| 	       			 4 1 3 2
        4 D|| 	       		4 1 3 2
        5 A|| 	       4 1 3 2
        6 E|| 4 1 3 2
        
        -----------------------------------------------------------
        
        1 E|| 	       			 	  	   1 4 2 3
        2 B|| 	       			 	  1 4 2 3
        3 G|| 	       			 1 4 2 3 
        4 D|| 	       		1 4 2 3
        5 A|| 	       1 4 2 3
        6 E|| 1 4 2 3
        
        Any problems then mail me, and I'll try and sort them out.
928.5and there's more ...SUBURB::DALLISONa waffer fin mint ????Mon Oct 24 1988 13:0849
                                                                             
    Another thing I use to warm up is a variant of the twelve bar blues      
    progression.  I was experimenting with the TBB, when I suddenly          
    started playing this, and I now play this before I play any other        
    warm up exercise.                                                        
                                                                             
    The notes that are written as O-O-4-4 (ie seperated with a hyphen)       
    are played with a 'funky' feel, whilst the other notes like 1410         
    (ie NO hyphen) should be played faster, with a much smoother feel.       
    Some parts (the fast bits) need strict use of alternate pickings,        
    the rest use normal (I've indicated what needs normal picking, and       
    what needs alternate)  and besure to pronounce the notes correctly.      
                                                                             
    I've included all the strings (even the unplayed ones).                  
                                                                             
                                                                             
    E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
    B|-----------------------------------------------------------------------   
    G|-----------------------------------------------------------------------  
    D|-----------------------------------------------------------------------  
    A|-----------2-2-4-4--5420--------1410-----------2-2-4-4--5420-------1414
    E|--O-O-4-4-----------------4104--------O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----
    	n n n n  n n n n  nvnv  nvnv  nvnv  n n n n  n n n n  nvnv  nvnv nvnv
                                                                               
    E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
    B|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
    G|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
    D|-----------2-2-4-4--5420--------1410-----------------------------------
    A|--O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----------------2-2-4-4--5420-------1414  
    E|--------------------------------------O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----  
        n n n n  n n n n  nvnv  nvnv  nvnv  n n n n  n n n n  nvnv  nvnv nvnv  
                                                                             
                                                                             
    E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------  
    B|------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
    G|-----------1410--------------------------------------------------------- 
    D|--O-O-4-4--------42-----------1410-------------------------------------- 
    A|---------------------O-O-4-4-------42----------2-2-4-4-5-4-2------------  
    E|---------------------------------------O-O-4-4--------------------------  
 	n n n n  nvnv  nv  n n n n  nvnv nv  n n n n n n n n n n n             
                                                                             
                                                                             
    E|------------------------------------------------------------------------
    B|------------------------------------------------------------------------  
    G|------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
    D|------------------------------------------------------------------------  
    A|-222--444--666--444--1-O------------------------------------------------
    E|--------------------------4-2-O-----------------------------------------
       nvn  nvn  nvn  nvn  n n  n n n                                        
928.6Warmups for me are just a bunch of exercisesDREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Wed Oct 26 1988 13:5149
    I do most of those arpeggios that Buck mentioned in the same
    way.  Alternate picking, changing the direction of the picking, etc.
    
    I also play it once in each "box", starting at the 12th fret,
    going down to the first, then back up.  Going up and down the
    neck like that gives you a sense of a complete exercise and
    a "count" (how many times you've done it).  These exercises sorta
    warm-up your cross-picking.
    
    I also like to do some bends and vibrato, not so much to warm
    up the fingers, but to get some feeling into them, and sorta
    "calibrate" my bends so that I bend in tune.
    
    Here's a picking exercise I use.  It's actually just a lick I made
    up that stresses a bunch of common picking problems as well as
    developing the technique to play consecutive notes with the same
    finger on adjacent strings (same fret) in a fast riff by flattening
    a finger.  I find this leads to some atypical (less guitar cliches)
    riffs.  The riff encounters that on all but the 2nd finger.
    
    It's basic just a descending pattern of 6 descending notes in a scale,
    going up a fourth (in the scale which is major in the example), then
    6 down again and so forth.
    
    The horizontal lines are strings, the symbols are note names, the
    riff as notated is played at the 12th fret (except at the end
    where you slide down and back up):
    
    FEGFE---E-------------------------------------------------------
    -----DCB-DCB--CB------------------------------------------------
    ------------AG--AG--AG------------------------------------------
    ------------------FE--FED-FED---D-------------------------------
    -------------------------C---CBA-CBA -BA------------------------
    ------------------------------------GF--GFEDE-------------------
    
    			^- A is played by flattening the 3rd finger
    			   that played the preceeding E
    
    I also do the standard 2 finger, 3 finger and 4 finger exercises
    (alternate picking and changing direction) with primary emphasis
    on the variations of the 3 finger exercise.
    
    BTW, I've always felt that my warm-ups and exercises placed too
    much emphasis on picking.  Thing is, I pick just about EVERY note
    and thus picking is real critical for me.  I've been trying to
    break myself of this habit so I'm interested to hear what some
    not-so-picking-oriented players do.
    
    	db
928.7PNO::HEISERMontana, the Bradshaw of the '80sTue Jan 17 1989 15:114
    Could someone explain "arpeggio" to a beginner?
    
    Thanks,
    Mike
928.8COMET::STEWARTTue Jan 17 1989 15:495
    arpeggio = broken chord; notes of a chord played in succession
    rather than simultaneously (block chord).  Arpeggio comes from
    the word arpa which translates to harp.
    
    =ken
928.9arpeggios in solosPNO::HEISERMontana, the Bradshaw of the '80sTue Jan 17 1989 20:395
    Is this what a lead guitarist typically does in a solo?  I'm thinking
    of an electric lead using a pick.  Is the rapid picking an arpeggio?
    
    Thanks,
    Mike
928.10COMET::STEWARTTue Jan 17 1989 22:2127
    Yes, it is what a lead guitarist would use sometimes, among other
    things, in a solo. 
    
    The rapid picking itself, though, would not necessarilly be an
    arpeggio.  Sometimes what you hear is based on scale patterns.
    Recognizing the difference can be tricky, however.
    
    Roughly speaking, though, the difference can be defined, for
    recognitions sake, as scale patterns being identified by successive
    notes in a scale, e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc., or, in other words, A
    followed by B followed by C#, etc.  The arpeggio can be identified by
    skips in relation to the notes, e.g. 1, 3, 5, 7, or A followed by C#
    followed by E followed by G#. 
    
    Again, this is a rough example and different points of view might
    exist depending on how one defines chords.  If a note cluster is
    a chord then does it follow that played as a broken chord one might
    interpret that as an arpeggio?  Sounds philosophical to me.

    Anyway, arpeggios and scales are two items that belong in a guitarists
    toolbox such that should the need or desire strike they can be called
    upon to fit the moment.
    
    =ken

    Oh, by the way, scales or arpeggios can be played either with or
    without a pick.  Depends on the guitarist.  
928.11SUBURB::DALLISONMarch 30th-Lock up your girls!Sun Jan 22 1989 13:297
    
    So am I correct in saying that the intro riff to U2's 'Sunday Bloody
    Sunday' is an arpeggio, as it is based around the chord form of D, or
    as it strays from it is it just a riff that happens to resemble the
    D chord ?                                              
                                        
    I've always wondered about that one.
928.12MARKER::BUCKLEYNice boys don't play rock n roll!Mon Jan 23 1989 13:315
    
    re: -1
    
    yeah, Sunday Bloody Sunday are three arpeggios, Bminor, D major,
    and Eminor 7, respectively.
928.13SUBURB::DALLISONMarch 30th-Lock up your girls!Mon Jan 23 1989 14:591
    So I thought.
928.14ThanksPOBOX::KOTSCHARJANAThu Oct 19 1989 23:201
    My Thanks to everyone who spent the time to contribute!
928.15STAR::KMCDONOUGHSET KIDS/NOSICKMon Jan 27 1997 11:1714
    
    This past weekend my left hand started to cramp up while I 
    was playing, enough that I had to shake it out between songs.
    
    I've been real picky about left hand positioning, I keep my 
    thumb under the neck, maintain a good arch, etc.  But, I guess 
    I'm just not playing enough to keep my hand flexible.
    
    It's a bummer to try and dash off a fast run and have my hand refuse
    to cooperate!
    
    Time for some 'shed......
    
    Kevin    
928.16OuchSALEM::DACUNHAMon Jan 27 1997 22:308
    	
    
    	I hope it was *only* a cramp and not something more.
    
    		Can you say cortizone?
    
    
    	Chris
928.17STAR::KMCDONOUGHSET KIDS/NOSICKTue Jan 28 1997 10:3610
    
    My wrist is fine but my elbow is still sore, so I'm starting to 
    think that it might be more than a cramp.  I broke this arm 
    years ago, so it might be arthritis.  It could also be a karate 
    injury. I did take a good kick on that arm a week ago.
    
    I dunno.  Not a thrilling prospect in any event.
    
    Kevin
    
928.18Tennis elbowSALEM::DACUNHATue Jan 28 1997 22:5210
    
    
    	I had a problem with "tennis elbow" in my left (picking) elbow.
    It hurt so bad I thought I had torn something major in that arm. The
    doctor reassured me and gave me one of those bubble bandages.  That
    seemd to relieve the pain but still made playing awkward.  It took
    about 2 months before the pain went away.
    
    
    	Chris