Conference napalm::guitar

    re: .0
    
    Were you the guy with the 335 at Winterjam?
    
    Anyway, LC's new live album is pretty incredible although I prefer
    "Room 335" and "Strikes Twice".   He has another live album that
    wasn't released in the U.S.  called "Mr 335 - Live in Japan".  It's
    available as an import and I highly recommend it.  Lots of songs
    that aren't on other albums as well as older covers.  In particular,
    if you liked "Point It Up" from "Room 335", you should get the Japan
    album because there is a similar and equally amazing type of tune
    on that one.
    
    BTW, the new live album "Last Nite" is also available on CD.
    
    	db

    
    re: .1
    
    Yep, that's me... maybe the only 335 there, it's the Carlton / Rit
    influence (on my ears, not my fingers unfortunately!)
    
    I have virtually all LC's (and Rit's) albums and each sounds great
    on it's own.  Certainly, the first studio album, "Room 335", is his
    most "Rockin'", though a couple of others come close.
    
    Also, I heard the full "Hill St Blues" on the radio the other day...
    Ouch, what a solo!  
    
    Also again... for "dinner music" on Sunday I put on his latest
    studio album, which features electric backup musicians with him
    playing acoustic.  Really great for that type of listening situation.
    
    I noticed that many noters put "Point it up" as one of their favorite
    solos of all time.  What a player!!!!
    
    Is it Summer yet?
    Tom    

    
    As with most of LC's albums, he also produced it.  On the back
    of the album cover, he wrote the following:
    
    "As the Producer of this recording, my intent was to allow all of
    the musicians to play their hearts out with no forethought about
    sales or public opinion".
    
    "As the Artist of this recording, I sincerely appreciate the
    Producers intent".
    
    					Larry Carlton
    

    If you don't know already, Larry is playing with the Yellowjackets
    Friday night at the Berklee Performance Center. A second late show
    was added recently. The show times are 7 and 10:30.
    
    If you haven't yet seen Larry, do so sometime. He always shows up
    to play his best and he really seems to appreciate the fact that about
    90% of his audiences here in Boston are guitarists.
    
    rick
    

    Larry is SO good that I'm gonna try and talk my girlfriend into
    staying for the second show.

    	db

	I heard on the news early this morning that Larry Carlton was in
	the hospital in serious but stable condition after being SHOT 
	last night/early this morning.  He had underwent 4 hours of 
	surgery.  It seems that he had surprised a couple of prowlers
	outside his home in LA.

	Has anyone heard anymore about this??

	-gary

    
    	It seems it was two kids around 14 to 16 years old.
    	He was shot in the neck.
    
    	Keep the fingers crossed!!
    	Tom
    

    Oh Christ.
    
    Why do these things have to happen?
    
    Carton is one of the few guys around these days who continually
    inspires me.  I sure hope he's gonna be ok.
    
    He had just signed a new record contract too.
    
    Please keep us posted as you hear things.
    
    	db

    
    *&^!@ (*&&%^%$#$#  %&$#@  *&^%$#@!@  (*&^(^^%^&#^ ^&%$&^^%$#^# 
    
    (*&^(*&^% &^#$^$@$%%^$# )*)(*%^&*^&  &^^&%* *%$*$ *^  * %^*$ 
    
    just  SPEECHLESS!!!
    
    

    
    Feels kinda like March 19th, 1982 don't it?
    
    wjb

    
    Last I heard on the news, his condition is stable, but serious.
    The doctors don't know if there will be any paralysis.

    	Here's some background info.  Anybody hear anything today?
    
    	Reprinted (without permission) from USA TODAY, Thursday, April 7,
	1988.

	GUITARIST SHOT: Grammy-award winning guitarist Larry Carlton was
	shot in the neck Wednesday by an intruder at his Hollywood Hills
	home.  His condition is stable.  Carlton has released 11 pop-
	oriented jazz albums and has played on 3,000 albums.  Artists he's
	backed include Steely Dan, Joni Mitchell, Michael Jackson and John
	Lennon.  He won a Grammy for pop instrumental for the theme from
	Hill Street Blues.

    Only other piece of information I can add from the article I read in
    yesterdays paper is that they have NOT caught the kids who did it.
    
    Why is it that my normally liberal views on crime and rehabilitation
    go down the drain when something like this happens?  Last night I had
    dreams of finding the most devastating way to make the kids who did
    this suffer what I feel is the equivalent of the artistic loss that
    may be at stake here.
    
    You think of the hours and hours that Larry put into this, all to have
    it (possibly) taken away by some stupid 14 year old with a gun, over
    what probably doesn't amount to much money.   I'd like that kid and
    all other folks who might do something like this the same kind of
    pain (and I'm not talking about the pain from the gunshot wounds)
    involved when you've devoted your life to a skill and then have the
    skill taken away so senselessly.
    
    I'm sure the kids has had his own share of pain, no doubt often
    inflicted by others, but that if he turned that pain into a lack
    of concer for others instead of an appreciation for others well...
    sorry, I have no sympathy for him.
    
    I'm just devastated.  With Morse having "quit", and Carlton shot...
    It's been a terrible month inspiration-wise.  I know that there are a lot of
    other great guitar players but no two guys did it for ME the way
    Carlton and Morse did.  I've always regarded them as being in a league
    by themselves.
    
    Sigh...
    
    	db

    
    Last night's LA local news:
    
    Larry was shot in the neck, is stable but serious.
    Suspects (2 teenagers) have not been apprehended.
    Larry's manager said that he should recover, but his voice may be
    different, and he will require much physical therapy.
    
    They didn't say if he would be able to play.
    
    Ashley

    Too bad, I just finished learning a tune off of the Strikes Twice
    album. Made me think of guitar in a new way. Hope he recovers soon.
    What a shame.

Could anybody tell me the latest on Larry Carlton. Just today, after not 
looking at this conference for weeks, i read the terrible news about Larry.

I haven't seen or heard anything about it in the European press, so us European 
LC-fans are dependent on you people for information.

I am really shocked by this tragedy, and pray that Larry will be ok.


Gerard Milo

    There was an update in Saturday's paper.
    
    It looks like he's going to live, but he won't be able to work for at
    least two years.  Apparently he is going to need some kind of therapy.
    At the moment, he is said to have a lot of pain.
    
    I'm not sure if the reference to "work" meant that he could play the
    guitar, or just some doctor's notion of "work".  It was far from clear
    whether or not his ability to play the guitar has been affected.
    
    We just have to keep our fingers crossed.
    
    BTW, they have established a fund to catch the kids who did this.
    I'm sending my money in this week.  Yes, I'm pretty bitter about
    this.
    
    	db

    
    Hey db,
    
      Thanks for the update.  How about entering the address
      for the fund?  Also, do you know where one could send
      a card or something??
    
      The tragedy of this event is reaching around the world,
      but it seems that VAXnotes is the media used to convey 
      the news.  I have been very frustrated by the total 
      absence of information concerning his condition.  Only 
      the local christian station deemed it newsworthy and
      then only to mention that he is married to Michelle
      Pillar, (sp?) who is a successful christian artist.  
             
      Needless to say, I am very appreciative of any information
      posted in this note.
    
    frank
    
    

    
    Heard where to send "get well" wishes on WERS yesterday on my ride
    home, but I wasn't able to write it all down as I was driving -
    the DJ ratlled it off so fast. 
    
    This is as much as I got :
    
    	St. Joseph's Medical Center
    	Alameda - Buena Vista, CA
    
    Why both towns are listed for one address beats me, but that's what
    the man said.  I'll call them today for the details I was unable
    to write down yesterday.  
    
    	t
    

From:	EDUC8::CLEMINSHAW   "Hanging ten on the wave of the future"
To:	DREGS::DREGS::BLICKSTEIN
CC:	
Subj:	RE: Still have that address?

No, I don't have the address of the hospital on me.  If you want to, you
can post the following from me in the notes file:

I called the hospital that had been mentioned in the Telegraph, St. Joseph
Medical Center in Burbank, to get their address, and when I asked the operator
for his room number to put on the envelope, they said "one moment please" and
transferred me to their Marketing Department (?!).  The Marketing Department
said that Larry had been "moved for his own protection," was out of intensive
care, and that I could send mail to MCA Records, c/o their Jazz department.

I ignored their advice and sent a get-well note to the hospital anyway,
figuring that he was still there but they were denying it to keep the minimum
number of well-wishers and reporters out of there until he's a little better.
The letter hasn't come back yet, saying "patient unknown", but then I only mailed it
on Friday.  I don't have the address of the hospital, but I got their number
through directory assistance.

The Telegraph posted a second note about Larry the other day, saying that
he's in considerable pain, they haven't found any leads, and about the
reward funds, but they didn't say who was collecting the money or where it
should be sent.  If anybody finds out, please let me know so I can contribute.

Larry's getting shot is going to affect us in more ways than just *his* 
music. I wrote this in music 43.4 or so in the rumor mill topic.

I was looking for Donald Fagan's new release "Century's End" so I went into 
the record store. The manager there said he was a great "Dan" fan too so he 
called the record co. They said only a single was out currently but the lp 
will be out in June or so. They also said that due to Larry Carlton getting 
shot, they had to put *their* plans for a fall tour on hold. Who? That's  
what I said, yup Steely Dan *was* gonna tour next year with Carlton on 
lead. This makes sense to me "cuz Larry did most of the killer leads on 
their best works. 

I hadn't heard of any new "Dan" albums in the works until last week my 
younger brother in SoCal. said he heard a *new* 'Dan tune on the way to work 
last week! Surprise the s*it outta me! 

I'd hoped he wasn't confusing the Fagan with the 'Dan, but he insisted he 
heard them announce it as the newest from Steely!

Ashley_in_smog_gangland, have you heard any more than this? Is there really 
a new 'Dan tune out?

As far as writing to Larry or so, I will be in contact with his agency soon 
and hope to get more info on all questions. i worked closely with them last 
year so here's hoping they remember me.

Rick_waitin_on_answers!

    AS seen on USENET this morning.....enjoy
    
    db2
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Yes. The Oregonian printed a brief story including the senario you've
described. I also heard on KINK-FM that he was in serious condition
and had been moved to some secret location to prevent the perpetrators
from completing the job.
 
Well wishers can toss their coins in any wishing well OR can send
their well-wishes to his business address for forwarding:
 
		Larry Carlton
		3209 Tareco Drive
		Los Angeles, CA 90068
 
Address was provided courtesy of KINK-FM.
 
 
 
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    This is an address I got from WERS for those of you who want to
    send "Get Well" cards or contribute to the Reward fund to catch
    and (I hope) PUNISH the creeps who did this.  An Army National Guard
    firing squad would suffice.
    
    			Larry Carlton
			Room #6721
    			c/o Eugene James
    			St. Josephs Medical Center
    			Buena Vista - Alameda Street
    			Burbank, CA  91505

    *MUSICIANS* Firing Squad, preferably with numbers in the thousands...
    
    This is really appaling.
    
    Does anyone have any information on whether Larry's playing ability
    will be impaired?
    
    Greg
    

    Re -.1
    
    You're right.  For once, I'd be willing to pull the trigger myself.
    
    I used to be a bleedin' heart liberal pacifist.  The murders of
    Bob K, Martin L K, John L, have changed all that.
    
    As for Larry's playing ability, nobody's sure.  The reports I've
    heard say that he's in *GREAT* pain and probably won't be able to
    sing again.  

    I'm also one of your bleedin heart liberals when it comes to capital
    punishment.   My initial reaction was "let's just shoot the guys
    that did it and forget 'em".
    
    My reaction now is that they should be made to suffer the same
    emotional pain that Larry must be going through (I'm sure the
    physical pain is nothing compared to the thought that he might
    never play again and similar thoughts.)
    
    Truth is, I don't want 'em dead, I want them to suffer.  They should
    be made to understand what pain the thoughtless act of pulling the
    trigger has caused.
    
    But if someone else prefers the slow torture until death... heck,
    I won't stand in your way.
    
    	db

    
    How about settin' 'em up to be kidnapped by Islamic Jihad?  Tattoo
    "CIA" on their foreheads and turn 'em loose in Beirut.
    
    Sorry ... can't help it.  Gotta release my anger/frustration and
    I don't have my axe in my hands.  Fantasizing revenge is the nearest
    substitute.
    
    	t
     

    I heard on WERS yesterday that Larry has been sent home, is recovering
    nicely, and may be able to tour within a year!
    
    Let's hear it for modern medicine!!
    
    Jeers for Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement(?).
    
    	tc
    

    When I was in Seattle last, KIRO had a report that said he'd recover
    fully.  Good to hear.  Also, the city of LA has set up a reward
    fund ($10K, I think) for the capture and conviction of his assailants.
    BobW
    

    This month's Frets magazine has a workshop with non other than
    Larry Carlton. The man deserves mountains of praise for being
    able to survive a near-fatal gunshot wound and return to playing. 
    
    I would have liked to see a breif interview talking about his 
    recovery but they went right into the workshop with no words
    about his rather harrowing experience. 
    
    I hope this means the long awaited Steely Dan album will finally
    hit the stores, maybe even in time for Christmas.
    
    YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Mark Jacques
    

    I would like to know more about Carlton. I have heard that he isn't
    doing that good. Problems with nerves, possible paralysis etc. Does
    anyone know ? What is the scoop ? I hope he has a complete recovery.
    
    Regards,
    
    Tony

    While listening to WFNX' Sunday jazz program, I heard an LC tune
    off of an album entitled "Sleepwalker" (I think).  After the song,
    the DJ came on and announced that Larry is, pretty much, totally
    recovered from his gun shot wound and that he's doing a benefit
    concert for victims of violent crimes (actually, the concert may
    have already taken place).  Anyway, the DJ also said that Larry
    will be releasing a new album within the next couple of months!!!
    
    joe.

    
    I heard the same in the Globe.  February release is promised.  
    
    BTW the album is "Sleepwalk" (the old Santo and Johnny tune) and
    MCA has been reissuing most of the old Warners LPs on CD.
    
    

    I can top that ;-)
    
    I *SAW* Larry Carlton (on TV).
    
    I was flipping thru the channels on Sunday morning and came across
    a face that looked very familiar.  It was LC!  He was doing a guest
    appearence on Robert Schueller's religious program.
    
    Larry looked significantly older.  It's clear that this has been
    a very traumatic thing for him.  Also, his speaking voice has clearly
    been affected (very raspy) and I tend to doubt that he is going to
    do much singing in the future.
    
    He talked a bit about the shooting, and the recovery process, etc.
    Apparently he was shot not too long after he got married (to a gospel
    singer), and his wife played a very important part in his recovery.
    
    Then... he played.  Unfortunately, all he did was back up his wife
    singing "Amazing Grace".   He still played with all the taste and style
    that defines him as a guitarist, but I didn't see him attempt any
    technical difficult stuff (the tune doesn't call for it), so I couldn't
    tell if that aspect of his playing has been affected.
    
    I didn't catch the whole interview.  It's quite possible that he played
    a bit before I tuned in (he was holding his guitar during the
    interview).
    
    I videotaped the portion I did see BTW.
    
    Did anyone see the rest of this?
    
    	db
    
    p.s.  I love the way Schueller uses echo/reverb on his voice.
    	  Really gives you that "in the audience" feeling, as well
    	  as making him sound a bit more authoritive.

    I'm not very familiar with Carlton, does he do all instrumental
    stuff?
    
    Mike_who'd_like_to_check_him_out

    Good to hear that he's back in business
    Larry Carlton was guitarist with the Crusaders from "Unsung Heroes"
    until the "Free as the Wind" L.P.
    His best playing in this period can be heard on "Chain Reaction"
    During this period he also played on the Steely Dan L.P's "Katy
    Lied","The Royal Scam","Aja" and "Gaucho" by which time he had left
    the Crusaders and started a solo career.
    He had previously released and album called "Singing and playing",
    which is rather on the commercial side,in the early 70's.
    His solo albums are well worth a listen.
    
    I would recomend a listen to:-
    
    The Crusaders : Chain Reaction,Those Southern Nights
    Steely Dan    : The Royal Scam,Aja
    Larry Carlton : Friends,Last Night,Sleepwalk,Alone but not alone.
    
    I must confess that his last recorded performance "Discovery" was
    a disappointment to me and I hope that the Valley arts strat appears
    on the next album....
    
    Regards
    Jeff Jansen 

    As a supplement to .6
    
    Another  major part of Larry's career (and what really launched
    his career) was several years of intensive studio work.  At one
    point I think there were 5 records in the Top-10 that he played
    on!!!   One year he did something like 700 sessions!!!
    
    And believe me, you may not have known it was him, but you HAVE
    heard Larry play.
    
    I think what distinguishes Larry's style is economy, extreme taste
    (absolutely NO riffs that aren't perfect), and flawless execution.
    One well-known masterpiece is the solo for Steely Dan's "Kid
    Charlemagne".   That was a first-take, no-punches.  There's a story
    that he did that having only glanced the chart before the red light
    came on.  He did the take and asked if they wanted to do another (take),
    the response came back from the devastated producer was "Why?".
    
    One minute, he'll be doing a solo with mostly whole notes (like
    on "It Was Only Yesterday", and then in another tune he'll burn
    it up like on "Point It Up".
    
    My strong recommendation for an intro to Larry as a guitar player
    would definitely be one of his solo albums.  In fact, the two I'd
    recommend the most are ommitted for the list given in .6.
    
    I'd recommend "Room 335" or "Strikes Twice" in that order.
    
    I would characterize his work with the Crusaders as mostly "sideman".
    
    I would characterize his work with Steely Dan as "solo hit-man"
    
    I would characterize his solo albums as breathtaking.  They expose
    all aspects of him as a musician: writing, producing, soloing,
    backing, singing, etc.
    
    	db

    Thanks for the input on LC!  I'll check him out.  You're probably
    right in saying that I've heard him and didn't know it.  I was never
    really into Steely Dan in my youth but did like some of their stuff.
    
    Does LC do any instrumental material or does he sing on his solo
    releases?
    
    Another thing I've been wondering about (no sarcasm intended), since
    LC was on Schuller's Church broadcast, I'm assuming at least his
    wife and possibly LC too are Christians.  Do you think his recent
    tragedy changed some of his views?  Will he go down the road of
    obscurity that Phil Keaggy has?
    
    Mike

    I've heard several of Larrys (excellent) albums and don't remember any
    vocals on any of it. 
    
    Yes, he is a Christian and has been for a number of years, so I doubt
    you'll see him fading off like Phil Keaggy. 
                                                 
    Greg

    I also saw L.C. on the Robert Schueller (sp) program.  Prior to
    the interview he played solo "The Lords Prayer" which for the past
    couple of months he's had the transcription in FRETS Magazine. 
    It was wonderful.  Robert said that Larrys wife has been a regular
    on his show for many years and it was through her that he met him,
    joking that he's known Larrys wife longer than Larry.
    
    _stew-

    Anybody tape LC playing "The Lords Prayer"???
    
    Anyway, Larry sings on his first two albums "Room 335" and "Strikes
    Twice".  Al Jarreau does some scat singing on "Friends", and the
    "Mr 335 - Live In Japan" album has lots of vocals on it.
    
    His more recent records are 99% instrumental.
    
    I am under the impression that Larry is "more" of a Christian now than
    he was in the past as the result of marrying his wife (a gospel singer)
    and the shooting. Whereas he had almost never mentioned his beliefs in
    interviews and columns in the past, he seems to do so pretty frequently
    now.
    
    If you ask me, it's anybody's guess as to whether he'll follow the
    path of Phil Keaggy (not to mention Kerry Livgren).  I have to think
    that no matter what he does, it'll always be interesting.
    
    The only dissapointing thing I know about his future plans is that
    at least half of his output will be acoustic.  I just don't think
    he's very exceptional on acoustic.   Whereas on electric, particularly
    the 335 he just shines.
    
    I dunno, maybe I'm just crazy but I was really saddened and maddened
    by the shooting.  I'm greatly looking forward to sacrificing my vocal
    chords to a big cheer the next time he steps out on a Boston area
    stage.  I'm gonna give him a standing O just for walking out even
    if I'm the only guy in the audience standing up.
    
    	db

>    < Note 929.11 by DREGS::BLICKSTEIN "Yo!" >
>    If you ask me, it's anybody's guess as to whether he'll follow the
>    path of Phil Keaggy (not to mention Kerry Livgren).  I have to think
>    that no matter what he does, it'll always be interesting.
    
    You all know by now that Keaggy has a new album out.  I thought
    you would like to know that Livgren also does.  His Christian band
    is called AD.  The new release is called "Prime Movers".  Dave Hope,
    the bass player from the old-Kansas is still with him.  
    
    Mike

    Just a note.....
    Larry's first album was entitled "Singing & Playing" on which he
    sings on all but a couple of tracks..this is for the most ardent
    fans only.
    He also performs on half of the soundtrack of "Against all odds".
    For those interested there are two guitar solo books available which
    feature Larry Carlton.
    One is available in France and features two numbers from
    "Sleepwalk",the other being a UK publication featuring "It was only
    Yesterday".If anyone requires further info I'll enquire as to the
    publishers..Is there anything available stateside?
    
    I still reckon one of his best solos is on Steely Dan's "Third World
    Man" from the "Gaucho" album...although the first piece by him that
    really caught my attention was the Crusaders "Chain Reaction"
    Regards
    Jeff Jansen  P&T  @ F1/10 SBP UK 
    
    

    	I read someplace that Larry's been involved in more than 2,000
    	sessions.
    
    	I first heard him via Joni Mitchell albums.  He's on "Court
    	and Spark" and "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" and he shines on
    	both as far as I'm concerned.  It's gotta be him playing the
    	acoustic on the title track "Court and Spark".  I've always
    	loved that song and his acoustic solo is awesome (not that it's
    	super technical or anything, in fact it's just the opposite...
    	very simple.  But the notes he hits are absolutely "perfect"
    	and they make the song IMO.
    
    	joe.

	Reprinted from the Boston Sunday Globe, December 11, 1988
			   -------------------

	Jazzing it up

	      o	Jazz guitarist Larry Carlton, whose left arm was paralyzed
	and voice nearly lost in a shooting by an intruder eight months ago,
	returned to the stage to perform a benefit concert for crime victims.
	Carlton has undergone extensive physical training and voice therapy
	since the April 6 random attack at his Hollywood Hills studio.  "I'm
	fine.  I was left with this voice, and from this day forward, this is
	the voice I will bring to you to say 'I love you,'" Carlton said in a
	raspy voice after receiving a standing ovation at the Universal Am-
	phitheater in California.  Carlton, 40, then performed a blues jam to
	show he was back in the form that put him on more than 3,000 career
	recordings with such artists as Steely Dan, Joni Mitchell and Michael
	Jackson as well as 11 solo albums.

    I went into one of the local record shops the other day.  Only LC
    tape I found was "Alone but never alone".  I guess I'll have to
    try another store.
    
    Mike

    Mike..
    You could try an import record shop as all the Warner Bros albums
    are still available from Germany.
    Regards
    JJ

    The note about TV themes reminded me of something...
    
    	I've seen Larry Carlton's name on the credits of "Who's The
    Boss".  They scroll 'em kind of fast so I haven't been able to figure
    out what he's on there for.  Did he write the theme??
    
    joe.

    He co-wrote the theme.
    
    He also did part of the score for "Against All Odds".  On careful
    listening to some of the background music to that movie, you'll
    discover that some of it are re-recordings of songs from the 
    "Room 335" album including "It Was Only Yesterday".
    
    	db

    Another question...
    	I got a CD player for Christmas and one of my gifts was a Joan
    Baez CD (Greatest Hits or something).  None of the musicians are
    listed on the printed literature, but I swear I can hear LC's guitar
    playing on a few of the tracks.  Anyone know for sure??
    
    joe.

    
    	I'm listening to the 'Last Night' cd right now as I write this
    note. Yes, it is 'The BP Blues'. As far as I'm concerned, 'Strikes
    Twice' is light years behind this one. Sorry, Dave! This has to
    be one of Larry's best efforts. It's going to be quite a feat to
    beat this one. Unbelievable!! This has to be some of the *BEST*
    blues I have ever heard. I used to play a little guitar back a
    few years ago, but play mostly piano now. I still get carried off
    in some of the riffs here so you'll have to excuse me. Oooo!! I
    can't believe this guy. Wow! now that I am in between cuts I better
    try and wrap it up. Oh no, 'All Blues' is on. Are you kidding me!
    Let me try to type this in without missing a note here. If you
    are an L.C. fan and don't have this one. *** SHAME ON YOU !! ***
    Unbelievable!! Ooooh! Ouch!! what a solo! Ya know what? I think
    I kinda like this one!
    
    John

    re: .6
    
    I won't get into any debates about what the "best" is.
    
    But you might be interested to know that there are now three live
    Larry Carlton albums:
    
    	o  Last Night
    
    	o  Mr. 335 - Live in Japan
    
    	o  Eight times Up
    
    The last two are imports - both japaneese I think.  I like both
    of the imports but "Live In Japan" is sorta special in that it has
    a tune that "another 'Point It Up'" (i.e. a really super flashy
    but ultra-tasty solo).
    
    Also of interest is the Larry Carlton book which contains chords
    and transcriptions of the tunes from his first two albums.  it is
    VERY accurate and also includes some interesting analysis of the
    tunes and solos.
    
    I also charted out the chords for "Sleepwalk" and the break in
    "Frenchmen's Flat" (both from the "Sleepwalk" album if anyone is
    interested in those (although I think FF is like written on the back of
    a napkin in a notation that I only could understand).
    
    	db

    re:.7
    
    	Dave, I'd be interested to know where you have found these import's
    as they don't seem to be easy to find. 
    
    	Also has anyone heard anything about his new album which was
    due out at the end of Feb? 
    
    	I have yet to be dissapointed by any of Larry's music,but trying
    to find it is sometimes difficult... Sleepwalk is a great tune...
    
    							Rick

    Where can the LC book be found (the one with the chord transcriptions)?
    
    Mike

    > Where cn the LC book be found?
    
    Well, if anyone is still willing to do business there ( ;-) ),
    the Daddy's in Nashua had the LC book last time I was there.
    
    > Where did you get those LC imports?
    
    I got them both at the Strawberries in Nashua.  That was quite
    awhile ago however.  One of them was unusually expensive as I
    recall (like $20!), but like you I've never been dissapointed
    by LC, and the $20 was well worth it.
    
    	db

	I believe this is the book Dave is refering to:

	The Larry Carlton Book
	Edited and Transcribed by Leon White
	
	Price $9.95

	Publisher:

	PMP a division of
	Belwin Mills Publishing Corp.
	Melville,NY 11747

	The book does cover his first 2 albums,and is transcribed
to traditional music notation and tabulature. Some theoretical discussion
and also contain's some foreign translations(German and/or Spanish?)
	
	I have seen 2 flavors of this book one which has a white cover
and another with a picture of LC. In New Hampshire try Daddy's Junky
Music in Nashua,NH anywhere else any music store who will order music
for you should be able to get it. 
        
					Rick
    					(who still does buisness with
    					Daddy's of Nashua)
    		

    I know this was addressed in note 574 (I think) but what is the
    latest news on L.C.? Is he back in business again?
    
    cheers
    
    Ross
    

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    I know this was addressed in note 574 (I think) but what is the
    latest news on L.C.? Is he back in business again?
    
    cheers
    
    Ross
    
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    Being as I  don't see the need for another note, I'm replying
    here.  I recommend delete 1282.
    
    Larry is back in business.
    
    He has a new album out called "On Solid Ground" and is about to
    embark on a solo tour (June 2nd at the Berklee is the Boston date).
    
    	db

    I believe that he is!  I heard an ad on the radio for a show in
    Denver next month where he will appear.
    
    Greg

    Larry will be in Phoenix tomorrow night (16th) with Leo Kottke.
    Sure would like to see him but I'm not sure if I want to spend $17.50.
    Still trying to convince myself.
    
    Local rag said that his latest entered the Billboard Jazz Charts
    at #9.
    
    Mike

>    Larry will be in Phoenix tomorrow night (16th) with Leo Kottke.
>    Sure would like to see him but I'm not sure if I want to spend $17.50.
>    Still trying to convince myself.
    
    Let me help.
    
    $17.50 is a bargain to see BOTH Larry Carlton and Leo Kottke.
    
    I think you'd be crazy not to go.
    
    	db

    Could all you guys move down a seat and make room for another on
    the Larry Carlton Bandwagon?!? :-)
    
    What can I say that can't be said?  Love his style, his sound, even
    got a copy of his latest album!
    
    One thing bothers me though.  Ever notice how frustrated you get
    when you learn about all that you've been missing when introduced
    to a new art form?  I'm fairly new to the guitar world but I sure
    wish I had gotten involved ages ago!
    
    Mike

    Larry Carlton has another new album out.   "Christmas at My House"
    (MCA) is the new release.  This is his first Christmas album.
    
    Songs on the album are: "The Christmas Song", "Winter Wonderland",
    "Silent Night/It Came Upon a Midnight Clear" (Larry's wife, Michelle
    Pillar does the vocals here), "White Christmas", and more.
    
    CCM gave it a thumbs up!  Sounds like a good gift idea for the LC fan.
    
    Mike

    CCM is a "christian" music mag right?
    
    I bought the album (I'll buy anything Larry does), but the regular
    Carlton fan would definitely find this dissapointing.  It's pretty
    much a standard Xmas album - the kind you have playing in the
    background although it is above average for that type of album
    (I mean consider the personel on the album)!
    
    It's not surprising CCM liked it because it's Larry's first
    album with a direct tie to religion (Larry is now a devout
    Christian).
    
    My guess is that Guitar Player will give it an "it's ok for what it
    is" type of review.  If they even review it at all - it's not really
    a "guitar" album.
    
    	db

    db, I figured that much.  How many songs does his wife Michelle sing
    on?  I always thought she had a smooth voice.
    
    Mike

    One of the new tapes that Santa left me was LC's Christmas release.  I
    like it's uniqueness.  Michelle Pillar isn't new to me (I have one of
    her own albums), but I thought her voice is a good match to LC's
    playing.
    
    Incidentally, Phil Keaggy is the one credited with "discovering"
    Michelle.  She recorded a duet with him on the "Town to Town" album
    that many use at weddings.  The tune is "What a Wonder".  Keaggy
    credits LC as a major influence and they've since become good friends.
    Always nice to get to know one of your major influences!
    
    Mike

    LC is coming back to Phoenix, on the 14th, for the Jazz Festival.
    BB King will also be here.
    
    The ad seems to indicate that LC will mainly do an acoustic set.
    
    Mike

    Well, out of the 5 LC notes, I guess this is the most appropriate one:
    
    Sunday morning, on WFNX 101.7, the 'Jazz Brunch' show is airing 90
    minutes of live LC, recorded within the last month.  I wasn't able to
    catch all the details, but the promos come and go within the hour - 
    if no one else beats me to it, I'll give a listen later on and put in
    the specifics.
    
    
    /c
    

Article 782 of rec.music.makers:
From: basil@cbnewsm.att.com (joseph.d.balshi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers,rec.music.cd
Subject: Larry Carlton live satellite simulcast
Date: 31 Aug 90 17:51:34 GMT


Did anyone tape the Larry Carlton performance that was simulcast 
via satellite last night (August 30th) from Philadelphia?
I was at the show so I was unable to tape it. I would like a copy of the show.
I would appreciate if you have a copy to send me EMAIL so we can
work something out.

The following is my impression of the show.
The show was scheduled to start at 10PM, but there were some technical
problems with LC's rack. It took about 15 minutes to get things working
so that Larry could begin the show. He was having technical problems
through out most of the set.  Larry was making jokes about his guitar
tech during the radio commercial breaks. He stated the the tech was
on the Stones last tour and was responsible for 26 guitars and nothing
ever went wrong.  He stated that he only has 2 guitars to take care of 
for him and maybe does not have enough to do.

The band appeared to be on and off during the first couple of songs, more on
than off. I think it was due to the technical problems with the
guitar and being cautious inorder to provide a excellent live performance.
After all this show was being heard around the world. The performance
really picked up during "Smiles and Smiles to go" and the band settled
in and sounded perfect for the remainder of the show.

I was surprised to see that Larry was not using a Valley Arts Strat, but
a Les Paul. It looked like an old TV or a Special.

All in all, the show was excellent. LC is an unbelievable guitarist
and has a tone that is out of this world.


				- JB -


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    Anyone know a good recipe (distortion level%, effects %, etc.) for the
    LC sound as heard on "On Solid Ground"?
    
    I attended a Digitech product seminar last night.  DOD's guitar player
    was demonstrating a rig with 5 different rack units in it, but mainly
    played his Paul Reed Smith thru the GSP21-Pro most of the time.  The
    preamp was fed directly into a Audio-Centron PA system.  Anyway, this
    guy had a patch that would've made you swear it was LC playing!  He
    told me it was created with LC in mind, but wouldn't tell me the 
    patch characteristics.
    
    Mike

    > But wouldn't tell me the patch characteristics
    
    Wait a second - I demo'd a GSP unit recently (not sure which one)
    and I recall that one of the factory patches was clearly a "Larry"
    patch - it even had a reference to him in the patch name although
    I can't remember much in the way of details.

    Well since that guy worked for DOD, maybe he wrote it for them.  I know
    he said he wrote the patch.
    
    Maybe I'll demo one to see what it consists of.
    
    Mike

    Larry Carltyopn has a new album out called "Kid Gloves".
    
    I just bought it and haven't had a chance to even look at the cover,
    much less listen to it, but thought some of you folks would like to
    know.

    So how about a review of "Kid Gloves" for other Larry fans?  Is it as
    good as "On Solid Ground"?
    
    Thanks,
    Mike

    I'm a big-time Larry Carlton fan.
    
    My initial reaction to "Kid Gloves" was very "ho hum".  Then a week
    before I was scheduled to see him in concert, I made a  concerted (no
    pun intended) effort to familiarize myself with the album and basically
    played it over and over while I was driving.
    
    Doing that did give me a real appreciation for a bunch of the tunes,
    and then after hearing him do other tunes (particularly "Oui Oui Si")
    I like even more tunes.
    
    I still don't like it as much as "On Solid Ground" overall, but there
    are three GREAT tunes on it that I like as much or better than anything
    on "Ground": "Kid Gloves", "Oui Oui Si" and "Farm Jazz".  There's two
    other tunes I like a lot but can't remember the names.  The one's I
    mentioned are kinda perky jazz tunes, the one's I didn't are sorta in
    the "somber" or "reflective" category (minor keys for example).
    
    In any case, I'm not at all dissapointed with the album.  I still wish
    for more albums like "Room 335" and "Strikes Twice" (and "On Solid
    Ground" came close to that), but Larry is still putting out music that
    I greatly enjoy.
    
    He seems to be playing mostly small clubs on this tour.  I would not
    miss him on this tour.  He's got a great (largely "new") band that
    includes Nashville session man Matt Rollins (who co-wrote "Oui Oui Si")
    and a new solid-in-the-groove bass guy (forgot his name).  John Ferraro
    is still on drums.
    
    Rollins is different than Terry Trotter (a personal hero/idol of mine)
    but I like what he's doing and I don't at all find myself "missing"
    Trotter per se.
    
    I think he's playing in a VERY small club in Amherst, MA on 11/28 and
    the boston concert was so good that I'd say it's eminently worth the
    drive (I think it's about 2 hours) if you're a larry fan.
    
    
    

    I'll be watching for it in the used bin!

    
    	I sense db _wanted_ to like it and likes it more _because_ it's
    	Carlton.  Maybe I sense that because I'm guilty of it too.  But
    	I'm tired of "ho hum" LC albums and will need a VERY favorable
    	review to purchase one.  Once again, it's great Sunday-read-the
    	paper music and, to me, he's put out enough of that.
    
    	Also, I bought it the same day I bought Shawn Lane and LC pales
    	considerably to my ears.  Shawn stretches out in playing as well
    	as composing and LC does neither so it was "no contest".
    
    	Btw, I have most of Carlton's music.
    
    	And, db, I'm still waiting for your comments in the Lane note...
    
    	Tom
    

re   I'm tired of "ho hum" LC albums and will need a VERY favorable
        review to purchase one. 

	Exactly why I haven't bought the last two releases...(if you count
the"Collection/G_Hits".)

	But I did hear a cut with him playing on the Crusaders lastest 
greatest hits release....which might be worth looking at...

	Shawn Lane.... hmm.....

							Rick

    >I sense db _wanted_ to like it and likes it more _because_ it's Carlton.
    
    It's understandable that you would get that impression from what I
    wrote, but it's really not true.
    
    It's more that it took a LOT of listening (and hearing him perform the
    songs) to get to like the album.
    
    If you don't believe that I genuinely like the album now, ask my
    girlfriend.  I play that album a lot these days (like 3 times since
    Monday).   
    
    It's not uncommon for me to have to listen to an album MANY times
    before I like it.  In fact, I've mentioned that that's USUALLY the
    case with Steve Morse, and you KNOW that I like his stuff.
    
    I also say that I think "On Solid Ground" is IMO a GREAT album
    (only one song I cringe at, see below).
    
    And to establish my credibility as being unbiased, I'll state that
    there were MANY Carlton albums which I don't like: "Alone but Never
    Alone", and "Discovery" being the ones that come immediately to mind
    (although there are 1 or two songs on each of those that I like).
    
    In fact, Carlton did a version of "Layla" (on "On Solid Ground") that
    IMHO is exceeded in lameness only by EC's "Unplugged" version.
    
    re: Shawn Lane
    
    Not really planning a review.  That's another album I have to listen to
    more.  The first 4 songs are STRONG "guitaristic" songs and I loved
    them immediately.  The rest of the album is impressive both in terms
    of his talent/chops and it eclecticism.  In fact, "Powers of 10" makes 
    what I used to cite as the foremost example of an eclectic player,
    Steve Morse, seem like a formula-factory by comparison!
    
    But unfortunately, nothing after track 4 seems to get to me, as
    impressive as it all is.   It may be another example of an album I just
    have to keep listening to.
    

    > Also, I bought it the same day I bought Shawn Lane and LC pales	
    > considerably to my ears.  Shawn stretches out in playing as well as
    > composing and LC does neither so it was "no contest".
    
    By the way, I'm not prone to comparing Lane to Carlton.
    
    Larry's "thing" isn't variety, it's jazz.  He's exceptional at that,
    and IMHO he writes INCREDIBLE chord charts.  I've learned SO MUCH
    about jazz chords, just by charting out his stuff.
    
    That's why you've heard me beg you to do a "Larry Carlton band" at a 
    DECjam.  I want to BE Terry Trotter (Larry's main keyboard player).
    
    ;-)

    
    	DECjam's ?  What are those?  ;^)  
    
    	re: after the 4th song... hmmm... actually, I look forward to
    	those tunes more than the 1st few.  
    
    	LC just needs to kick butt - maybe release "his Blow by Blow"
    	or something like that.  Or dump that guitar and go back to
    	his 335 - he seems to have lost his dynamics.
    
    	btw, I believe that you really like it.  But, to me, he's 
    	released the same album the last eight years or so.
    
    	Tom
    

Is there an album with the "Barney Miller" theme on it? (yes, LC wrote it and
is credited on the BM credits).

I'm talking about a full-length version of it, not the 1:00 sound bite you get
on TV.

It's my favorite TV theme ever.

thanks,

adam

    Apparently there's now a release date and title for Larry Carlton's
    next album:
    
    	August 17th - "Renegade Gentleman"
    
    That's only one week away.
    
    	db

    ...and I didn't even get Kid Gloves yet...

    
    	db, please post a review.  I've been disappointed with LC for
    	way too many years.  No fire left at all.  I think he caught
    	a mellow virus from Donald Fagen...
    
    	Btw, Robben Ford's latest is pretty decent.  But I can't help
    	but feel he holds back in the name of taste too.  
    
    	Waiting for LC to Point it Up again,
    	Tom
    

    Speaking of Robben Ford... I made the grave mistake of asking him a
    question at a clinic once re cross-influences between he and Larry.
    (Check out Robben's early-80's solo "The Inside Story" for some very
    Carlton-ish sounding stuff, imo).  Robben made it quite clear whom he
    thought "influenced" whom, and if looks were an Uzi I'd have been
    hamburger.
    
    There may be bad blood there, or perhaps Robben's just been asked that
    question too many times.
    
    /mister_tact

>    	db, please post a review.  I've been disappointed with LC for
>    	way too many years.  
    
    I was dissapointed up until "On Solid Ground" and "Kid Gloves".
    
    While there are songs on those two albums that I don't like at all,
    there are at least 3 tunes on each that, to me, are as good as most
    of the stuff on the early albums.   I love "Bubble Shuffle",
    "Oui Oui Si", "Farm Jazz" for example.
    
    Do you have either of the last two albums?
    
>    	Waiting for LC to Point it Up again,
    
    Don't hold your breath.  Every time someone at a concert shouts of
    "Point It Up" Larry always makes a point of saying he's not into
    that anymore.
    
    However, if you do NOT have "Mr 335 Live in Japan" (import-only
    unfortunately), run (do not walk) to your nearest record store
    and order it because it contains a song that is definitely "another
    'Point It Up'" as well as a whole side full of other songs that
    did not appear on any studio recordings that are right up there
    with all the songs on the good early LC albums.
    
    The other side is live versions of stuff from "Room 335" and "Strikes
    Twice".
    
    GREAT album!  Wish I could get it on CD.
    
    	db
    

>>> I've been disappointed with LC for way too many years...

If I hadn't'a seen it in text from Larry Vanelli hisself I wouldna b-leeved it!

    Well, I picked it up yesterday.
    
    Boys, this is a VERY different album and not what you'd expect from
    Larry Carlton.   It's is a lot more bluesy and country - only vague
    hints of the pop/jazz styles we're used to from Carlton.
    
    It's called "Renegade Gentleman" and it "features" some
    vocalist/harmonica player from Nashville whose name I don't
    remember right now.
    
    I didn't like it at all on 1st listen.  I could EASILY get into an
    album of LC playing the blues, because he does a blues tune every
    concert and that's always KILLER - he definitely infuses his own
    style into the blues and the result is incredible.
    
    But I find nothing inspiring on this album.
    
    There is an interesting crunchier version of "Farm Jazz" but
    "interesting" is about as much of a compliment as I can muster for it.
    
    However, note that I tend to hate things on first listen (I even tend
    to not like Steve Morse albums on 1st listen) but usually I can tell
    if there's a chance I'm going to like it.
    
    I don't suspect I'll come to like this one, but I hope that changes.
    
    	db

	OK, so I get the latest Larry Carlton for Christmas from my
	brother and my first thought (while thanking him politely)
	was db's review.  Oh well.  Don't even play it for a few days
	but that was mostly because of the Hellecasters and Earth,
	Wind, and Fire from my SO.

	But we're getting together again a few days later so I'd 
	better put it in since he'll ask me if I liked it.

	I'd say it took less than a minute for me to think about db
	again.  But this time it was that damn blooze debate!!

	I truely, honestly do not want to go back to that debate but
	if anyone cares, this CD smokes!!  No elevator acoustic crap
	here at all.  Just some really good music with LC's best tone
	and playing in a decade!  

	Highly recommended!!

	Tom

    
    	From this month's GP, there's a new duo CD out by Carlton
    	and Lee Ritenour.  I think it's called "Larry & Lee".
    
    	Tom
    	

    I'm THERE man!!!
    
    I'll buy anything Larry puts out, and while I'm not as familiar with
    Lee as I should be... I love his stuff with GRP.
    
    	db

    I've heard Lee's "Captain Fingers" and it really didn't suit me much.

   I have Lee's "Festival" (or is it "Carnival"?) disc, and it's pretty good.
   Apparently he was going for a Brazilian/South American feel, and nailed it
   pretty well.  I consider it more relaxing, "dinner" type music, as opposed
   to something to sit and listen to, though.

   -- Sam

    If I remember correctly, Lee Rinenour used to play with the band
    Brazil '66. I always thought Brazil '66 broke up before the end
    of the 60's but it turns out they continued touring on a world-wide
    basis for years after. They are supposedly known and loved in
    several differant countries, especially in South America. 
    
    There was a Lee Ritenour interview in Guitar Player magazine about
    10 years age. I seem to recall that he was a student of Joe Pass
    for many years. Maybe I'm getting him mixed up with someone else.
    He has quite the guitar collection, including several fine Gibson 
    archtops. He was pictured sitting in a room surrounded by beautiful
    guitar, and tons of vintage recording gear. I still have the magazine 
    at home. 
    
    Markl

    I remember at Berzerklee once, this cat had me play in his recital.
    On the score, it was marked in red letters "play in style of Lee
    Ritenour."  At the time, I'd never heard the dude?!!  But I had
    been listening to a lot of Alan Holdsworth with GONG -- so I played it
    in that style.  
    
    Afterwards, the composer came up and said "man, you REALLY nailed the
    score -- esp. that flawless Rit execution..."
    
    It was good for a laugh -- just goes to show you...

   Brazil '66 huh?  Wow, that brings back some memories.  My older sister had
   some 45rpm singles from that band.  Did some popular instrumental stuff 
   back in er, '66!  :-)  I think they had a big hit with a cover of "Fool on
   the Hill".

   Rittenour also was a big endorser of some of the early guitar synths that
   came out.  I remember seeing an article/picture of him holding this weird
   contraption that combined an electric guitar with a small keyboard on the
   top.

   -- Sam

    Ritenour did not play with Brazil '66 in 1966. If he did, they
    probably had to change his diapers between sets. I believe he 
    accompanied them on tour during the late 70's-early 80's. I
    was surprised to hear that they were still in existance. There
    is a lot of music that is popular outside the US/UK that we
    never hear about, especially if the vocals are not sung in 
    English. I believe Brazil '66 fits into this category.
    
    Ritenour made his reputation as a session man. He has played on
    countless albums and commercials. I believe he did quite a bit
    of work for Motown as well.
    
    I'll have to reread the article this weekend, although it's pretty
    dated. I'll post more on Monday if I find anything interesting.
    
    Mark

	Picked up "Larry & Lee" last weekend (since no one had the new
	Pat Martino!).  

	Right off the bat, the liner notes write about what you won't
	hear... "showboating solos, tedious pyrotechnical displays or the
	jarring clashes of inflated egos that have transformed too many
	other collaborations by big-name guitarists into empty exercises
	in digital doodling". 

	Instead "such welcome qualities as subtlety, sensitivity,
	sophistication and a finely wrought blend of fire and finesse,
	dashing elegance and vibrant soulfulness".

	(Sheesh, everything we've been b*tching about was done on
	purpose, db...)

	While they achieved those welcome qualities, I guess I'm still
	into tedious pyrotechnical displays too.  

	Anyway, really nice tunes / arrangements on this CD.  It's
	especially good thru headphones.  Their styles certainly are
	complimentary and it's sometimes hard to tell who's who, tho
	not often if you're familiar with both of them.

	Omar Hakim and Harvey Mason are on drums and they're their
	usual selves and a very welcomed relief from programmed drums.
	Greg Phillinganes and Dave Witham share keyboards and Melvin
	Davis is the bassist (who's he?).

	I was hoping they'd both smoke on this but they don't.  Lots
	of tasty guitar tho.  One thing that struck me as odd is there
	are few extended solos; it's mostly back and forth playing.

	There are 335's, Les Paul's, Strat's, acoustic's, L-5's...

	So, if you're looking for more than what Carlton's done lately,
	this is certainly more.  And I'm enjoying it a lot.

	But it ain't the "Point it Up" twins.

	Tom

    Geez, I didn't even know it was out!
    
    I really don't care if he never does another "Point It Up".  I don't
    listen to larry for "showboating solos, tedious pyrotechnical displays
    or the jarring clashes of inflated egos that have transformed too many
    other collaborations by big-name guitarists into empty exercises in
    digital doodling".   If I want that, I can just go to a blues
    jam.  ;-)
    
    I listen to Larry for GREAT chord charts and all the other things he
    mentioned: "subtlety, sensitivity, sophistication and a finely wrought
    blend of fire and finesse".
    
    In fact, I'm amazed that they put that "warning" on the cover because
    that's not what Larry has ever been about.
    
    I'm picking it up tonite!
    
    	db

    
    	No, it's the start of the liner notes, not the cover.
    
    	I guess, for me, everything Larry and Lee play is tasty so 
    	that's no problem.  I just wish there was a bit more on
    	the plate.
    
    	Tom
    

    
    	Well, db??  Did you pick it up yet?
    
    	After listening to it about a dozen times, I gotta say that I
    	really like it.  Rit really shines.  To me, out-tones and
    	out-tastes Mr. 335 himself (but just barely ;)
    
    	Tom
    
    
    	

    I did pick it up, but I've only listened to it once so far.
    
    It's complicated but even though I've had it for about 4 weeks now
    I just haven't had much time to listen to it.   It's been a very
    hectic month for me.
    
    FWIW, it really didn't floor me on the first listen, but if you've read
    the discussion we had somewhere else about "first impressions" you'd
    know that I rarely like ANYTHING on the first listen.
    
    It took me about 15 listens to appreciate an album which I now regard
    to be the best album of the last 15 years: "Images and Words" by Dream
    Theater.
    
    	db

    
    	Yeah, yeah, we know all about your listening habits, db...
    
    	When you form your opinion, stop back in. ;^)
    
    	Anyone else pick it up?  Btw, it's in the top 10 Jazz
    	CD's in Boston, according to the Globe.  Or maybe from
    	Tower Records, I'm not sure.
    
    	Tom