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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2077.0. "Elite is on Ami!" by AYOV28::ATHOMSON (C'mon, git aff! /The Kelty Clippie) Thu Jan 05 1989 13:24

Elite is here !! The game I've been waiting on for a long time....

First it's copy protected (non-DOS format) and by look-up-the-word but 
Project_D backs it up (quite a few error messages, but the backup works
fine). The disk must be left write-enabled for the commander file (thank
heavens for Project_D as my backup was hit by the LSD virus the day after
I got Elite, wiping out the non-standard boot block.)

The game itself is very true to the original, the only additions being the
solid 3d graphics in flight/combat (lo-res - very similar to StargliderII)
and the buy/sell/equip screens now have graphics instead of text. The only
concession to Ami's sound is the waltz music (title screen and when docking
using a docking computer) is in stereo.
The screen is 320x200 (not PAL) although my copy has the vertical 200 displaced
by 25 lines or so down the screen i.e. 200 scan lines from 25 to 224 instead
of 0 to 199.

It does smell of ST portage though (the ST version came out a couple of months
ago) 

There is also a built in cheat-mode (actually a commander file editor) which
I will detail in a later note if anyone is interested.

If you were ever a fan of Elite on the previous machines (BBC then C64),
you'll love it on Ami.

				Alan T. (Average but Clean)
    
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2077.1I wanna cheatPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaThu Jan 05 1989 14:077
I'm still at "Harmless Offender" on the ST version.  I'm enjoying this
one.  (I accidently fired at a space station once, that's how I got to
be an offender.)  I'm intereated in cheating - I want to know if combat
is going to get easier once I equip my ship with a rear-mounted beam
laser to keep the pirates at bay.  I feel awfully vulnerable in my MKII
with only the one pulse laser and a pile of expensive missiles.

2077.2Where? When? How-Much?NITMOI::WITHERSconjugate the verb to go...Thu Jan 05 1989 14:277
    Is it at "The Memory Location" yet (assuming your Metroish..) and
    whats the price tag?
    
    George, who in his 64 days was an ABOVE AVERAGE OFFENDER!
    (When bored I used to run guns for the local syndacite (sp!, no
    question) :-)
    
2077.3Thargoids to the left of me.....MINDER::TURNERIThu Jan 05 1989 15:2611
    
    
    Hi all.
    
       Does anybody know how I can complete the second mission without
    cheating, (Thargoids abound). Appreciate any help that is forthcoming.
    
    
                                 Ta Muchly.
    
                                   Ian T. (A competant english offender)
2077.4BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonThu Jan 05 1989 18:197
    since FALCON has already been dragged through the mud on this, I
    suppose it's time to ask:
    
    Does Elite run with expansion RAM and on a 68010/68020?
    Does it run in 512K or does it need a 1Meg?
    
    -Dave
2077.5Missions?GRYHWK::WITHERSNo life I know can compare with pure imagination..Fri Jan 06 1989 20:0411
    On Elite:
    
    When I played it on the C64 thier didn't seem to be any overall
    governing purpose.  Just fly, fight, trade, make money, increase you
    ship so your flying and fighting will be easier, so-on..
    
    Is this the case?  Or are there missions?  Special occurences?  etc?
    
    Thanks,
    George   (who is curious and will probably buy it soon... ;-))
    
2077.6Cheat mode - sh!!!AYOV28::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieWed Apr 11 1990 06:5218
    re: .5 Yes there are missions farther into the game.
    
    re: cheat mode. To enter cheat mode is the same on both the ST and
    Ami versions. Spoiler follows....
    
    You've been warned....
    
    At the beginning of the game, when you are asked for the word from
    the manual enter SARA then, when asked again, enter the correct
    response. The game will now start as normal, but pressing the keypad
    '*' key will put you into a commander file editor. ESC will exit.
    
    I will post the locations I've sussed out so far here tomorrow but
    I know that they are different on the ST. Interestingly there are
    some options for your MkII that are not in the manual... how about
    a cloaking device ?? or an ECM jammer ??
    
    					Alan T.
2077.7~~~Price?~~~NWD002::FREEMANROFIREWALKERTue Jan 10 1989 14:517
    The game sounds great! I've been waiting for this.  Could you please
    post the price so I can start saving pennies. Btw...from the date
    of your last posting ( .6) you must have really gotten carried away.
    You're well over a year into the future. Thats one hell of a comm
    port.  Thanks.
    
    Rob
2077.8AYOV28::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieWed Jan 11 1989 07:4617
2077.9Elite questionsPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaWed Jan 18 1989 13:3440
I'm up to "Above Average, Clean", and I have some questions and some
discoveries to share.

Questions:

    - Has anybody successfully mined an asteroid?  How?

	I bought all the appropriate asteroid mining hardware - the
	fuel scoop, the mining laser, the rear mounted military laster
	(keeps the pirates at bay).  I then flew right up to an
	asteroid, aimed the mining laser, and blew it up (poof!)
	thinking I'd be able to scoop up a bunch of minerals, and if I
	was lucky, a few gems or some gold.

	No such luck, nothing there but dust.
	I tried a few other asteroids, same thing.  All I got was a
	=-credit bounty for eliminating a threat to navigation.

	I had much better results "mining" cargo ships.  I was an
	"offender" for a while after reliving a freighter of a few
	tonnes [sic] of machinery.

    - What's this I hear about missions?  Howabout an example?

    - Can you land on the planet with the retro-rockets?  I bought them
	to see what they would do (they're not in my manual, except in
	the quick reference that says to press R to fire them.)  I
	discovered you get a substantial reverse thrust out of them, and
	they could be useful for getting out of tough combat situations.
	However, you can only use them 5 times.  If you fire them right
	after exiting the space station, you pass right through the space
	station to the other side - no collision!

	All my attempts at landing on the planets have ended in
	dream-music (i.e., death).

    - I have found out (the hard way) that it IS possible to survive after
	being snatched out of hyperspace by the Thara-whatevers. If you
	kill and/or avoid them long enough, your drive comes back and
	you can set a course and warp out.  Good news for space travellers!
2077.10where?LRGFMT::COLLUMWed Jan 18 1989 13:486
The dealers out here in California have told me their distributers don't even 
know about Elite yet.  It sounds like its been released in the UK. Anyone
out on the East coast of the US seen this game in the stores yet? If so, could
you post the location (and maybe a telephone number) 

                                thanks
2077.11Where.. but only a ?When?GRYHWK::WITHERSNo life I know can compare with pure imagination..Wed Jan 18 1989 15:135
    _The Memory Location_ in Boston/Metro-ish area told me about a week or
    two before it gets to the US.
    
    George, who-is-also-(not)-patiently-waiting-for-Elite!
    
2077.12PokesAYOV28::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieThu Jan 19 1989 11:2319
    At last, I remembered the cheat pokes! To outfit your ship with
    any of these just set the value of the location to 01.
    
    Location	Item
    22		Large cargo bay
    24		ECM
    2A		Fuel scoop
    2C		Escape capsule
    2E		Energy bomb
    30		Extra energy unit
    32		Docking computer
    34		Galactic hyperdrive
    3A		Retro rockets
    3C		ECM jammer
    3E		Cloaking device
    
    
    		Enjoy,
    			Alan T.
2077.13Game Disk is Corrupt!!PEKING::WILLIAMSCThu Aug 09 1990 14:1414
    My husband and I once had great fun playing Elite.
    
    Unfortunately, our Elite Game Disk has become corrupted and will
    no longer load the game.
    
    Does anyone know the name and address of the people to make the
    game as we would like to contact them to try and obtain a replacement
    disk.
    
    Thanks
    
    Collette
    
    P.S. I am based in Reading, U.K.
2077.14...any word yet?...SALISH::FREEMANRORob Freeman DTN 540-6555Mon Aug 13 1990 20:013
    Is ELITE now available in the U.S.?  Has anyone heard anything yet?
    
    Rob
2077.15Address for supplier of eliteAYOV16::MHOLLOWAYSay NO to LEG-ISLATIONFri Aug 24 1990 07:4417
    re.13
    
    I believe Elite was coded by a company called Mr Micro. I don't have
    their address.
    
    I also believe that the supplier was Firebird. Their address was:-
    
    		Firebird
    		74 New Oxford Street
    		London, WC1A 1PS
    		Tel - 01-631 5206
    
    Please note this address is at least one year old.
    
    Cheers
    Mark
    
2077.16LARVAE::MUNSON_PBo don't know BasingstokeFri Aug 24 1990 12:495
2077.17Where are the Missions?DUCK::WILLIAMSCCOLLETTE WILLIAMS REO F3/7Wed Mar 06 1991 13:5610
Can anyone tell me when and where do you find the missions.

I have now been playing for sometime and have reached COMPETENT.

If anyone knows the answer please let me know as all I can do at the 
moment is keep trading and making mega bucks and it is getting a 
little tiresome (except for the odd Thargoid attack or too)

Collette

2077.18Let's get DangerousUFHIS::SFISCHERThu Mar 07 1991 08:0213
    Hi Colette!
    
    You'll only get the missions, if you come to the Dangerous Level.(or if
    you Cheat (Dunno the Cheat PW anymore.I think it was something like
    SARAH).
    Another question : I heard about an ELITE-like game, called XYPHONS.How
    ist it?Should I buy it, or leave it? I really loved ELITE on the C64,
    and hated it on the Amiga, because it was so easy to get money and so
    hard to get the Level (hallo Colette;). Has anybody already tried it?
    
    so long,
    sammy
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