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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4514.0. "Help with LQFNT1.LZH & LQFNT2.LZH" by HPSCAD::GATULIS (Frank Gatulis 297-6770) Wed Feb 13 1991 22:04

    
    Looking for help with LQFNT1.LZH and LQFNT2.LZH
    
    These 2 archives contain a whole mess of fonts which can be downloaded
    into an Epson printer.  The documentation says they are Amiga fonts
    which were converted to Epson download format by a program called LQ.
    Many of these fonts exist in several sizes.  My printer is an NEC
    P5200.  Enough background, now for the problem.
    
    Following the instrctions in the documentation I download the fonts
    no problem and they can be selected just as if I were using a font 
    card.  To take advantage of thes fonts you simply copy a file to either
    PAR: or PRT: (behavior is the same).  File prints as advertized but
    the fonts are TINY.  They're so small there virtually useless (IMO).
    For example, CAMELOT-23 (although correct) is rendered at about 
    3/32" on the printer.  So I begin to think - I must be missing something.
    I don't know how to scale these to a usable size.  Why would someone
    have gone to the effort to do this if this is the result?
    
    Can anyone shed any light on this?
    
    Also - I've tried NECFC and not been able to make it work with my
    printer (not really a surprised, it was written for older versions
    of NEC printers).
    
    Frank
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4514.1It _should_ work...FROCKY::BALZERChristian Balzer DTN:785-1029Mon Feb 18 1991 06:0313
Re: .0

>    Also - I've tried NECFC and not been able to make it work with my
>    printer (not really a surprised, it was written for older versions
>    of NEC printers).
    
Hhmm, it oughta work with most NEC printers, could you describe the problem
and eventually quote the respective man pages so we can update NecFC?

Cheers,

<CB>

4514.2work with Panasonic KXP-1124??FSCORE::KAYEwhere's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for zero-gMon Feb 18 1991 14:585
When i do TYPE font PAR: or COPY font PAR: my printer prints all sorts
of junk + FF's etc. Is this normal, or should it be silent? I'm trying
to load them into a Panasonic KXP-1124.

 mark
4514.3HPSCAD::GATULISFrank Gatulis 297-6770Mon Feb 18 1991 15:2426
    
    Mark,
    
    Can't speak for your printer but I notice on mine (NEC 24 pin dot
    matrix) that the printer seems to output a 1 or 2 line feeds as the
    download occurs and then sits there happy.  I don't get JUNK or form
    feeds.
    
    A guess on my part but ..... it almost sounds as if the data is going
    to your printer as  "a file you wish to print" rather than "a font you
    wish to download".  That could happen because:
    
    1. Your printer is not mechanically set up to accept the download. 
       Maybe a wrong switch setting or something (check the manual).
    
    2. ESC sequence incompatability - I think those files must contain some
       sort of Epson compatable escape sequences to let the printer know
       this is a download rather than a data file.  The escape sequences 
       must be compatable with those recognized by your printer.  If you
       have a HEX dump option on your printer you could enable it and then
       send the file to the printer.   You end up then with a hex printout
       of what was sent to the printer and at least can examine the codes
       against what your printer manual documents.  Not a fun job!
    
    Frank
    
4514.4No go with NX1000CSC32::A_ANDERSONDTN 592-4170 NSU/VAXThu Feb 21 1991 01:0112
    I get the same results as .2.  I have a Star Micronics NX1000.  I set
    the Switch (2-1) off for download.  Tried the TYPE >par: font and a
    COPY font par:.  The printer prints garbage.  After it shuts up I try
    copy file.txt par: and it prints garbage.  Something gets loaded into
    the printer but nothing useful.
    
    I tried it in Standard (EPSON) and IBM mode no differance.
    
    
    
    Alan
    
4514.5Four byte to manyCSC32::A_ANDERSONDTN 592-4170 NSU/VAXFri Feb 22 1991 00:3930
    I tried a HEX dump of the codes sent to the printer.  This is what I
    get.
    
    1B 78 01                     Select NLQ
    1B 50                        Select Elite
    1B 3A 00 00 00               Copy character commands to ROM
    1B 26 00 21 21 00 P1...P50   Define NLQ Down load characters
    1B 26 00 22 22 00 P1...P50   Define next download char
    
    There are 50 P1 bytes before I encounter the next download sequence. 
    The NX1000 manual state that only 46 are needed 23 bytes define the
    first pass the next 23 define the second pass.  Could these files be
    for 24 pin only printers?  Assuming they need 25 bytes per pass in NLQ
    mode.  I am not getting any extra data, the HexDump matches byte per
    byte with file as viewed with NEWZAP.
    
    My guess the NX1000 is choking on the extra 4 bytes.  I could write
    something to drop four bytes but what four do I drop?  Do I send 23
    drop 2 send 23 drop 2 etc.  Or drop 2 send 23..... You get the point.
    
    Or just drop the whole idea.
    
    Could some kind person that has a printer that works with these font
    files share the download sequence code from their manual.  It might give 
    me a hint as to why mine chokes.
    
    Thanks
    Alan
    
                 
4514.6almost working on star lc24-10VARESE::FRANZONIBlue like a BluesFri Feb 22 1991 19:0914
>    first pass the next 23 define the second pass.  Could these files be
>    for 24 pin only printers?  Assuming they need 25 bytes per pass in NLQ

I've got star lc24-10 (24 pins) and it works as .0 : very TINY characters,
almost unreadable ... and I guess that the number after the font_name is
the cahr per inch, not the dot size of the font (as I thought).

Moreover, it only works for ascii characters < 'R' ... all the others are
printed with standard font.

Is anybody out there using this successfully ?
(are fonts supposed to be large or does they have the right size ?)

Mauro.
4514.7Must not be for 9 pin printersCSC32::A_ANDERSONDTN 592-4170 NSU/VAXSun Feb 24 1991 20:4526
    I looked into the fonts a little more.  The Standard that my NX1000
    manual states for Downloaded NLQ character is as follows.
    
    1B 26 00 n1 n2 m0 m1......m46
    
    n1 and n2 are the character being defined 
    m0 is the attribute byte.
    	Bit 7 = 1 for ascender
        Bit 7 = 0 for decender
        Bit 4 - 6 = 0 to 7 dots white space to the left of the character
        Bit 0 - 3 = 4 to 15 Charcter width including left white space.
    
        M1- m23 is the first pass with the MSD being pin 1 LSD being pin 8
                in the case of decenders its pins 2 to 9
        m24 - m46 is the second pass.
    
    The byte break down in the font files are very different.  I have seen
    anywhere from 30 bytes to 65 bytes of data after the start of the
    sequence.  I would assume a 24 pin printer needs more data to define
    the fonts.  Does anyone know anything about the program that generated
    these fonts.  Is it PD, shareware, or Comercial?  Can it generate fonts 
    for 9 pin printers?
       
    Thanks for any info
    Alan