Conference hydra::amiga_v1

>>        Two of the things that I like the best about CygnusEd, are the Arexx
>>    & Macro Capability, and the Safe Save feature.  
    
    JK,
    could You please explain, what the 'Safe Save' feature is???
    
    Thanx
    Gerald

    
    Re -1  
    
    CygnusED has 3 options for saving files:
    
    SIMPLE-SAVES like most other Amiga saves, it simply writes out the
            contents of the buffer to the file your editing (replacement).
            The risk here, this is a replacement and if something happens
            to your system during the update, you may loose your data.
    
    SAFE-SAVE conceptually the same as above, but the algorithim is -
            a) write buffer to a temporary file on disk (guaranteed save)
            b) delete the original file you were editing
            c) the temporary file is then renamed to be that of the file
               you were editing.
    
            Also - if CED runs into a problem creating the tempoary file,
                   it gives you the option to write over the original as
                   in a simple save.
    
    .BAK-SAVE  works just like a safe save except that the original file
           is saved with a .BAK extension so you get 1 level deep file
           by file backup.
    
    CED also allows you to set an interval timer which brings up a requester
    to remind you that you haven't saved in specified amount of time.  You
    can also toggle the reminder on/off.
    
    If you crash in the middle of editing (let's say for example 5 files
    simultaneously), no problem. When you re-boot, you immediately run
    the CED recovery utility and it'll go through memory, find all the
    files and adk you what you want to do with each one. And it works!!
    
    
    Frank
    
     

    
    While we're alking nice features, lets not forget:
    
    1. You've never seen anything so fast on the Amiga. It's incredible
       of your speed consious.
    2. Ability to search/replace strings which include escape sequences !
    3. Vertical cut/paste ! (haven't figured out how to keep a white space
       hole on the page after i've cut out a block) anybody know how ?
    4. Layout mode allows you to randomly access places on the page to the
       right of EOL.  Coupled with overstrike mode, it's very simple to
        to draw block diagrams just as we do here with Eve-Plus.
    5. Indent mode (shift-CR) lets you indent the next line to the same
       level as the current line.
    6. Macro's can be bound to 'ANY' key.
    
    I love it!
    
    Frank
     

Sigh. My favorite editor is mg3beta5 (though I conceede a bias).

1) I looked at an older version of Cygnus Ed's Rexx stuff. I wasn't
impressed. The Rexx interface in mg3 is modelled after the lisp
interface in GNU Emacs, plus database hooks. In Ced, running sections of
the edit buffer as a function isn't easy, and I didn't see a reasonable way
for macros to toggle between running as an asynch external macro and running
as a synch internal macro disallowing other macros (of course, that may not
be needed), nor was there a way to arrange to run Rexx scripts on exit
(usefull for cleaning up old clips that your scripts may have set).

2) mg can edit arbitrary binary, including esc's & null's. You can pass
arbitrary text through the Rexx interface.

3) Indent mode is old hat.

4) Ditto for .BAK save.

5) Provided with full source, including a configuration program that makes
compiling versions without code for features you don't want or changing
defaults trivial.

6) Keyboard macros are first-class citizens, just like built-in functions.
Rexx macros can be trivially bound into keyboard macros, and so get all
the features thereof - autocompletion being _very_ high on the list - including
binding to 'ANY' key (my expereince has been that this is never quite true;
for mg, the hole is the keysequence pre-bound to function maps; that should
be fixed by the time the release version is out).

6) It pretty much runs on anything with enough horsepower.

Ok, enough "My editor is better than yours". I realize that editors are
a personal thing. What I'm interested in is what makes the Ced Rexx interface
so nice. I want to know if there's anything I missed.

	<mike

    
    Question for more knowledgeablwe CED users -
    
    I have CED ver 2.0 and never received notice of anything more current.
    
    I downloaded the update patch from TAPE: (called CED211.LZH) and when
    I tried to apply the patch I got a message saying that I was trying
    to pach an incompatable version.  What I "think" is that there was
    a previous patch which I'm missing.   Anyone aware of that one? 
    Is it avail on the network anyplace?
    
    Thanks,
    Frank
    

    Frank,
    	I'm in the same position. I called ASDG and the support person said
    they didn't have V2.0 around. He suggested that I mail it to him on
    PeopleLink and he would generate a new patch file which would perform
    2.0 -> 2.1 -> 2.11 -> 2.12. I mailed it to him last night. He said it
    wouldn't take too long to create the patch file and when done, he would
    upload it to PLINK. I'll be keeping my eye out for it and when it's
    there, I'll upload it to TAPE. Be patient.
    
    
    Roger
    

    
    Re .-1
    
    Thanks Roger, I'd appreciate that.  Saves me a call to ASDG!
    
    Frank
    

    I've uploaded "oldced.zoo" to tape::user2:[upload]. This file is a
    patch which takes CED 2.0 -> 2.10. The other patches on tape(?) will
    take you from 2.10 -> 2.11 -> 2.12.
    
    Roger
    
    

Hi,

Does anyone have the  CED patch for going from 2.11 to 2.12 ?   That one doesn't
appear to be on-line.  ASDG told me I can get it from BIX or Compuserve but I 
don't do those.   If noone has it I'll send to ASDG, get it and upload it.

Frank

    I just copied it to eot::amiga:[upload]CEDPATCH-211TO212.LZH.
    
    If you're using 2.0 there is still one annoying bug.  When you use a
    window on the workbench screen, if you click on the new 2.0 shrink
    gadget it crashes the machine.  Fortunately I usually use it on it's
    own screen.
    
    Did they mention a new version any time soon?
    
    -steve

    
    Thanks Steve,
    
    I'll find out about new versions info, etc.  I couldn't get through to
    the CED support folks today, I was in a rush and they were busy. I
    asked the girl who answered the phone what was current, and she told
    2.12 and that was all all she knew.  I'll post a reply after I talk
    to them tomorrow.
    
    Frank