Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    
    John, I thought I was imagining things, but Moe may be mellowing out in
    his old age.  I was in there last Saturday (again, the store was empty
    - is this a problem with Moe or are Amiga sales that lousy?) and was
    negotiating a price on a brand new A2620 board.  He actually gave in in
    a few seconds and made me a terrific offer that I couldn't refuse.
    
    He had a few A2630 boards, but they were already sold.  I tried on of
    them in the demo 2000, but it really didn't seem any faster than the
    A2620, at least in general windowing activity.  We must be
    bottlenecking up in the 16 bit graphics or something.  Anyway, I
    couldn't justify the added expense for a speedup that I couldn't see.
    
    By the way, I wonder how Moe got his Alpha or Beta 1.4?  SOme developer
    may be putting his status at risk by giving away copies.  I also wonder
    if Moe is putting himself at risk?
    
    Ed.

    
>    By the way, I wonder how Moe got his Alpha or Beta 1.4?  SOme developer


I wondered the same thing and was hesitant to put in this note - especially
with the recent "save this notesfile" note.  

He said he's a beta site to help report problems.  I tested him by offering
to copy it while he wasn't looking :-)  He stopped smiling and said
very strongly "NO WAY!"  It seemed ligit.

I wouldn't have copied it anyway (really!) I was even trying not to look at
it so as not to spoil the surprise... But it looked great..

John

    
    I found out that Moe IS a registered developer, so his 1.4 is
    reasonably legit.  I had to twist his arm to even get a peek.
    
    I won't waste time commenting on the new features, since it looked like
    a very early Alpha version, but it looks almost too good to be true. 
    There has never been as slick and feature-laden a desktop on any PC or
    workstation that I'm familiar with.
    
    If Commodore can get this out reasonably soon, the Amiga may yet make a
    small spot on the map.  I'll be holding my breath... and my tongue.
    
    Ed.

    
    I couldn't recall seeing this mentioned -
    
    According to latest greatest rumor information, does know if 1.4
    "requires" a kickstart ROM replacement or will it be merely a floppy
    update.
    
    Frank
    

>    According to latest greatest rumor information, does know if 1.4
>    "requires" a kickstart ROM replacement or will it be merely a floppy
>    update.
    

I'm sure it will require a new ROM - maybe even the new chips (I doubt that).

To get Moe's 1.4 working, he had to "KickIt" (load the KickStart ROM) into
RAM memory.

John
    

	Workbench 1.4 will require Kickstart 1.4 in ROM (except in the 1000
of course).  The new chip set should only be required if you want the new
features that they supply.

	AmigaDOS 1.4 may work with a 1.3 or 1.2 ROM, however you will wind
up with the older workbench.  (Workbench is in ROM in 1.3/1.2).  Also,
1.4 ROMs may give you FFS for floppies.  (Thiswas the rumor at the time 1.3
was released.)

	I have not yet seen any release of 1.4 working.  Some of this is from
magazines, and some is from COMP.SYS.AMIGA

    So, how you like it John? ;-)
                            
    If you folks had signed the same rigid non-disclosure agreement
    as me, you'd know why I'm so tight-lipped.
    As far as the ROM question is concerned, I believe I'm perhaps allowed
    to eventually maybe tell you that WB1.4 will require Kickstart 1.4.
    Since DOS is in Kickstart I don't grasp the concept of .6
    
    Regards,
    
    <CB>_still_suffering_from_the_Paris_DevCon

>    So, how you like it John? ;-)

I'm speechless!

John