| Title: | AMIGA NOTES |
| Notice: | Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2 |
| Moderator: | HYDRA::MOORE |
| Created: | Sat Apr 26 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Wed Feb 05 1992 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 5378 |
| Total number of notes: | 38326 |
Hello,
I recieved Pro Draw from Gold Disk yesterday.I ripped open the
package booted the program disk,so I could make a backup an promptly
got the disk error requester.Not one to give up I rebooted and the
workbench screen appeared.I then used the mouse and icons to make
a backup.It got as far as track 63 and bombed.I restrained my urge
to panic,and rebooted using my regular workbench disk.The first
thing I tried was to take a directory of the PDraw disk.Success!
next I went for the big one and copied PDraw to ram.Again success!
By this time I was starting to get excited.Next I built the lib:,
l:,Fonts,and devs: directories an copied the files from my 1.3 workbench
disk to them.then I went for the Picture,and Tutorial directories
on the PDraw disk.No problem! However When I went to copy the files
from PDraw:devs/printers I had a read error.This was to bad because
the partial list of files I saw tends to indicate there are several
new printer drivers in this directory.Can anyone verify this ? After
the C: directory was done I ran Install on the disk,poped it in
df0:,and rebooted.It came right up to the workbench screen.By this
time it was getting late, but I wanted to at least look at the program.
I clicked on the PDraw icon,and then knew I had a working copy.Just
for grins I loaded in the completed tutorial and saved it to postScript
format.It looks great printed out.PDraw has the ability to write
color postscript files but I don't have access to such a rare beast,so
I did not bother to look into saving a file in this format.The same
goes for the EPSF format.Has anyone tried either of these formats?
I did not see anything on being able to import EPSF formatted files,
so it looks like this is a one way feature.It would have been a
nice option.Well I have many more thoughts on all this but they
will have to wait until I have a chance to look at the program.
OH! Just one more thing,the tutorial consists of bringing in a
bitmapped picture,and then Tracing over it to convert it into a
structured drawn picture.I can see many uses for this sort of activity.
bill
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| 2287.1 | No Undo ? better | MAMIE::LEIMBERGER | Thu Mar 02 1989 08:41 | 18 | |
I spent a few hours last night working with PDraw.It is quite different
than any of the draw packages I have used.At first many of the features
that one comes to expect seem to be missing.However they often exist
in another form.An example is the UNDO command in DELUXE PAINT II.
In PDraw you do not have acsess to an UNDO comand but instead you
have the ability to delete,or edit any object at any time.You select
the object to make it the active object,and then you can delete,or
modify it.While at first this does not seem too powerfull,until
you realize that "anything" you do creates an object with control
points at each end.If you were drawing a wheel with spokes the outer
wheel,and each spoke would be a seperate object.If you made the
spokes from two lines instead of a box each line is an object.Once
an object is selected you can move any of it's control points,and
you have acsess to ALL it's attributes.So while you do not have UNDO
you are offered much greater flexability for the effort.I do miss not
having brushes to paint with but I am trying to find a workaround for this.
bill
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| 2287.2 | WOW | HYSTER::DEARBORN | Trouvez Mieux | Fri Mar 10 1989 17:49 | 37 |
I just got my copy last night and have installed it on my system
at home and at work.
This is a nice package. It does what I have been trying to get
Aegis Draw+ to do for the last two years, with virtually no success.
Finally a drawing package that treats the screen like a sheet of
paper, not a CAD screen. The biggest surprise? I output one of
the sample files to my LA75 dot matrix printer and to our LN03R
postscript printer. Both printouts are IDENTICAL (not in resolution).
I used the default scaling. This is the first time in the three
years of owning my Amiga that I have ever seen this happen. Dot
matrix output was always a poor simulation of laser output. Not
any more.
The ability to work in color is nice. I believe that this capability
is unique to this package...even Adobe Illustrator can't do that
on screen. You can mix bit-mapped graphics with structured drawings.
As pointed out earlier, you can import bit-mapped graphics and
draw on top of them. Unlike Professional Page, when you import
the graphic, Pro Draw converts it into light shades of grey, making
your drawing much more visible.
They have fixed a few of the requesters that were buggy in Professional
Page and added some new ones. However, some of the pull down menus
still leave behind ghosts on the page. This was a common bug in
PPage.
The fonts that come with the program are actually structured drawings
in themselves, made up of several line segments...so moving them
is a slow process. They are not intended for blocks of text, only
headlines, because they are so memory intensive. If you want blocks
of text, use PPage. (The new version of PPage, that is compatible
with PDraw is still not available, maybe about 3-4 weeks.)
So far, so good. Now just to have the Viking 19inch monitor...
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| 2287.3 | what I meant | HYSTER::DEARBORN | Trouvez Mieux | Fri Mar 10 1989 17:53 | 15 |
Let me clarify one thing:
I have had next to no success with Aegis Draw+. It's interface
is difficult to use. It's method of selecting objects for editing
is very poor. PDraw uses boxes with built in handles the way MacDraw
and other packages do. Aegis just gives you a reference rectangle
that doesn't give you much control. AD+ was designed for plotter
output. PDraw was designed for Postscript, laser, dot matrix and
color output...and does a great job at it.
I'm now going to remove AD+ from my hard disk. Glad to have the
space back...
Randy
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| 2287.4 | LEDS::ACCIARDI | Fri Mar 10 1989 18:35 | 7 | ||
Yeah, Draw Plus has always been a real disappointment. Being a
user of Real Cad (UniGraphics) I thought that all was hopeless until
XCAD came out. Now thats a damn fine package. Absolutely rock
solid and fast as blazes.
Ed.
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| 2287.5 | GIDDAY::BRYDEN | Sun Apr 30 1989 01:55 | 6 | ||
I've just purchased this package to run on a 500/1 meg machine
and I seem to be able to blow memory with no problem at all.
the biggest thing seems to be adding text. what machines/memory
are you using?
Dave
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