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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

673.0. "AMIGA models" by TALLIS::ZANZERKIA () Wed Aug 26 1987 16:48

    Hi,
    	I am looking in to AMIGA computers. I read several note files
    and there are pieces of information in different notes. Can 
    someone please summarize all 3 modesl ? 1000, 500, 2000 ??
    Mainly for 
    1 - what comes in base price ?? 
    2 - How much memory can be added
    3 - hard disk drive addition ?? 
    4 - what processor and what clock rate.
    5 - disk drives ??
    
    
    Thanks for help
    Robert
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673.1Z::TENNYDave Tenny | DTN 225-6089Wed Aug 26 1987 17:023
I suggest looking at note 493.*,
and in general, dir /title=2000
Dave
673.2Question 4NULL::TORNHEIMWed Aug 26 1987 17:182
    all use the MC68000.
673.3LEDS::ACCIARDIWed Aug 26 1987 17:3575
    To directly answer the five questions you asked would take a bit
    of digging through this notes file, so I'll try to summarize here..
    
    1) Prices:
    
    The A500 is $699 for a 512K system w/o monitor.  For an extra $149
    you get a 512K RAM increase and a battery backed clock calender.
    It comes equipped with 1 built in 880K DSDD floppy.  For ports, it
    has the standard serial and parallel, RGB out, monochrome composite
    out, twin RCA jacks for stereo output from the four sound channels,
    two mouse/joystick ports, external floppy port, and the 86-pin
    expansion buss.
    
    There are very few new A1000s left in the world.  My boss just bought
    one for $795 w/RGB monitor.  The 1000 has all of the above ports,
    except the composite out is color, not monochrome.  The 1000 also
    has a detachable keyboard.  There are lots of third party memory
    boards and hard drives for the 1000 available now.
    
    The A2000 is still not shipping in the states yet.  CBM tells us
    2 weeks every two weeks.  The list price for the A2000 is $1995.
    For this, you get all the standard Amiga ports PLUS three IBM slots
    and four Amiga Zorro slots.  For $495 you get the Amiga Bridge card,
    which is an XT on a card with a socket for an 8087 math chip.
    The A2000 has room inside for two 3 1/2 " drive and one 5 1/4" drive.
    
    The main advantage of the 2000 is the internal expandability.
    
    2)  Memory add-ons:
    
    All three Amigas can be expanded to 9 1/2 megs.  The lower 512K is reserved
    for use by the custom chip set.  The area from 512K to 2 megs is
    reserved for future AGNUS chips and larger display requirements,
    although some manufacturers are using this reserved area for expansion
    memory today.  The area from 2 megs to 8 megs is reserved for
    autoconfiguring FAST ram.  (This does not mean that all other ram
    is slow, it's just a name that stuck.)
    
    There are devices available today to take the A1000 to 9.5 megs.
    No doubt there will be many expansion boards for the 500 due to
    its (so far) healthy sales.
    
    3) Hard Drives
    
    Commodore will be shipping a hard drive for the A2000 'soon'.  They
    have left the job to the third parties for the 500 and 1000.  There
    are currently a half-dozev hard drives available for the A1000,
    mostly SCSI, a few DMA.  A 20 meg SCSI drive can be had for around
    $750.   Most of these products will probably be adapted to the A500,
    which has the same expansion buss as the A1000, but located on the
    other side of the unit.
    
    4)  Processor
    
    All Amigas use a Motorola 68000 running at 7.16 MHz.  This odd number
    happens to be exactly twice the standard NTSC video frequency, which
    makes the Amiga ideal for video uses.  The Atari ST has an 8 Mhz
    68000, and can therefore crunch numbers about 11% faster than an
    Amiga, but many feel that the Amiga's superior color, sound, and
    animation capabilities are a fair tradeoff.  
    
    One of the beauties of the Amiga's OS is that it was designed from
    scratch to support the full line of Motorola 68*** chips.  There
    are boards available today that allow installation of a 68020/68881
    chipset.  The Amiga OS insists on use of 32 bit addressing, so you
    can use 32-bit memory with the 68020.  
    
    5) disk drives:
    
    All Amigas use 3 1/2" DSDD microfloppies, with a formatted capacity
    of 880K.  Through the use of a custom mount list, you can install
    any 5 1/4" drive and the OS will recognize it.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
673.4thanksTALLIS::ZANZERKIAWed Aug 26 1987 17:564
    rep 3.
    		This is really helpful.
    Thanks for the help
    Robert
673.5AUTHOR::MACDONALDWA1OMM Listening 224.28Thu Aug 27 1987 21:554
    The latest press release from Commodore lists the bridge card price
    as $695!
    
    
673.6BAH!18583::ACCIARDIThu Sep 03 1987 12:025
    Hmmmm... here we go again... the cost of hardware emulation once
    again exceeds the cost of an entire clone, including power supply,
    motherboard, keyboard, etc...
    
    I see entire PC-10s selling for less than that!
673.7BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonThu Sep 03 1987 16:127
    maybe they want to discourage the idea of selling the 2000 as a
    pc clone with a few "extra" features.  I get the impression that
    CBM marketing of the 2000 is an experiment to find out what is
    the highest price they can get, they want to limit the orders
    until they have adequate stock to meet anticpated demand.