Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    I heard that you have to tear the cover off the original package
    and send it to them with a check to cover the upgrade cost.
    
    As I have not heard a word from EA concerning this, I don't know
    the specifics.  I plan to give them a call about this.
    
    Randy
    

    I was sent the news letter. It did make mention of the DPaint II
    upgrades, but I can't rememeber what it said. I'll check tonight
    if it didn't get thown away.
    
    ....rich

                  -< you can get DPAINT II >-
    Here in germany you can get the new DPAINT II in ervery shop.
    It has some nice futures and it's much better to work with.
    If there are some interests, i could write down what's new
    in DPAINT II.
    
    Tim

    I got a demo of it at Memory Location.  It is lightyears ahead of
    DeluxePaint.  The perspective, gradient and pattern fills,
    anti-aliasing, etc. are quite nice.  Plus you have masking for
    airbrushing.  
    
    I was also told that Aegis will no longer sell Images.  It seems
    like EA has blown them out of the market....no loss, Images was
    a pretty cumbersome product to use.  Even worse was their hi-res
    version (actually med-res).  It was a VERY poor adaptation of lo-res.
    The aspect ratio of the brushes, as well as the geometric draw
    functions were not corrected for the different resolution.  At least
    EA took care of this in the design of the three resolutions of DPaint.
    

    Call them at 415-572-ARTS for info.  Here is essentially what they
    will tell you:
    
    Send the cover of your DPaint manual, along with a check for $37.00
    to Electronic Arts, Deluxe Paint Upgrade, P.O.Box 7530, San Mateo,
    CA  94403.
    
    You will get your new disk and manual in 4-6 weeks.
    
    If you have a protected disk, and want an unprotected one, send
    $57.00.  If you have a protected disk and want a protected one,
    send $37.00.  If you have an unprotected disk, send it, and a check
    for (I forgot), and they will send you a new unprotected one.
                                               
    Good Luck.  Upgrades are ONLY available through the mail.  They
    will not take phone orders.  In fact, the Customer Service line
    is fully automated, with pre-recorded messages.
    
    Randy
    

    I got my update of DPAINT II yesterday. I've just tried out a little
    but here goes.
    
    It's clickable. Files that you create have ICONS that are clickable
    and run DPAINT II.  You don't get the pretty paint bucket screen.
    That OK because I think it takes less time to load. 
    
    The screen layout looks identical. When you press the right hand
    mouse button a new item has been added to the main menu. This
    is  for controlling perspective and background. Many menus
    have new options/features.
    
    Most of the new features are a little more difficult to use that
    point and shoot. For example the perspective fill is really controlled
    by a features selected in a new pull down menu ( can't remember
    the name) and another menu that brought up when you right button
    click the fill ICON. There's a little more to it even. You must use
    the key pad (not the function keys) to control the x-y-z axis
    tilts while in that mode selected from a pull down menu. All in
    all for the results that you can get it worth the little extra
    work.
    
    Most of the new features are either added pull down menu options
    or right mouse click on existing icons.
    
    There now a pop out menu for print that gets displayed after
    you pull down and point to print. You can control color/gray/BW,
    size, and Horz/vert. From that screen. When a printout is in progress
    you can stop it with a stop gadget. 
    
    On the fly you can change screen size and resolution. As will may
    of the new features, this is limited by memory. I've got 512k
    and may of the permutation of size and resolution are not possible.
    Some don't even may bring you face to face with the GURU.
    
    More memory limitation are evident in med-res mode when trying to
    fix the background or creating a stencil. Most every thing works
    in Low Res mode.
    
    Oh the fill "pop-up" (rt button) has on really neat fill style,
    dither. What accomplished is rendering. You choose a direction to
    render from and when you fill and object the colors change from
    on end of the object to another. For example if you Dither fill
    a circle and have a color range define (from the pull down
    palette menu) the circle look like a 3-d ball. Neat!
    
    Oh well, got to go. Haven't really played all that much with
    it yet but after I finish my taxes I'll play some more.
    
    
    ... Rich
   
   
   
    
    
    
    
    

    DPAINT II require a 1.2 Kickstart.
    
    It also comes with an art disk.
    
    
    ... Rich
    

     
    Is it copy-protected?
    
    Roy

    Yes, but it includes a coupon that will enable you for $20.00 to
    obtain a non protected copy.

    
    	Dpaint II is copy-protected. Just like Dpaint I, if you send
    more $$$ to EA they will send you a non-protected version.
    
    		Steve Peters
    

    Take the 20.00 and put it towards the purchase of Marauder II.
    
    Your copy protection blues will be gone forever.  Plus the Marauderized
    copy boots faster.
    
    Randy
    

    Also....
    
    The documentation is the best that I've seen for any Amiga software
    product.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Path: decwrl!hplabs!sdcrdcf!lwall
Subject: Deluxe Paint II bug
Posted: 27 Jan 87 21:34:25 GMT
Organization: Unisys - System Development Group, Santa Monica
 
Can you believe it?  I actually found a bug in DP2.
 
Repeat By:
	Save whatever it is you are currently working on in DP2, 'cuz
	you'll lose it.  Having a picture up may give you a more interesting
	crash.  Click one of the predefined square brushes with the right
	button in order to resize it.  While you are resizing it (with the
	right button) push the pointer up into the menu bar.
 
	Result: either a dead screen or everlasting fireworks.  In any event
	the only way out is to reboot, seemingly.
	
The fireworks crash is the most amazing thing I've ever seen.  Seemed to have
a cycle time of about 2 seconds, flashing up a continuously changing mishmash
of something that looked a little like my old picture after traveling through
a meat grinder.  What'd it do, write an endless loop of garbage over the
copper list?
 
Oh, one thing does survive on the screen.  The
 
	S
	I
	Z
	E
 
sprite stays wherever it was, but the mouse can no longer move it.
 
Larry Wall
{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,sdcsvax}!sdcrdcf!lwall

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Path: decwrl!decvax!ucbvax!cbatt!clyde!masscomp!garyo
Subject: Re: Deluxe Paint II bug
Posted: 30 Jan 87 17:19:34 GMT
Organization: MASSCOMP - Westford, Ma
 
In article <3978@sdcrdcf.UUCP> lwall@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Larry Wall) writes:
>Can you believe it?  I actually found a bug in DP2.
>
>  [...while resizing brush, push mouse into menu bar - Voom!]
>
>Larry Wall
>{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,sdcsvax}!sdcrdcf!lwall
 
I've got another one, and this one is worse.  Rubber-band lasso crashes with
fireworks whenever the lasso is too complex or too large.  This may be just
(ha -'just'!) a memory problem.  But you can never tell when it's going
to happen, so I just don't use that feature.  But it was one of the prime
things I REALLY wanted from DPII!  Oh well...

	Can anyone tell me if DPaintII can produces HAM images?

	The reason for asking is that I intend to buy ProWrite
	and want to include some pics, logos etc into some documents.
	ProWrite will accept HAM images, so...

	A friend tells me that there are utilities that can convert
	simple DPaint pics to HAM (Butcher??).

	Keith

    	No, DpaintII can't produce HAM images. Digipaint can take non-HAM
    pictures and convert them to HAM. Unfortunately, Digipaint works
    only in HAM mode.
    
    	However, I'm pretty sure that some of the new "paint" programs
    coming out, will handle all resolutions and HAM mode. I believe
    Pixmate is one of them. See a review of it somewhere in this notes
    files.
    
    Miguel A. Alvarez

    PixMate can convert 32 color DPaint images into HAM, but there's
    not much of an advantage in doing that.  It is very useful for turning
    digitized HAM images into 32 or 64 color versions.  It does an
    outstanding job, too.
    
    Ed
    
    

    If your real question was whether you could use DPaint II to produce
    artwork for use in ProWrite documents, the answer is probably YES.
    I don't know for certain (I don't have ProWrite yet), but HAM is
    usually considered the most advanced picture format, so claiming
    that they support HAM doesn't mean they *require* it.

	It was my real question, yes. 

	I will be getting DPaintII as a freebie when I buy my A2000 anyway
	(tomorrow!!). I'll post my findings later...

Keith