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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3169.0. "Change in FY's??" by UTROP1::BONKE_V () Wed Jun 15 1994 12:28

    There are rumours going on (so what's new...) that we are planning to
    change our Fiscal years. It seems that we will change from
    ending in June, 30 to Dec, 31. This would mean that we will have a
    half-year FY coming up, after which we will then be more in-line with
    other industries.
    
    Anybody's got any news on this ??
    
    Regards,
    
    Victor
    
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3169.1NYEM1::CRANEWed Jun 15 1994 12:393
    I`m not sure if the IRS would allow us to change the fiscal year to
    Dec. 31st. I don`t think it is that easy to do but I guess it could be
    done......
3169.2Give up my eggnog? Never!GUCCI::HERBNew Personal Name coming soon!Wed Jun 15 1994 12:403
    Doesn't make logical sense from a Sales perspective as the year end
    crunch would be to get final orders in when both the sales force and
    the customer have their minds on anything but work.
3169.318 months?ANNECY::HOTCHKISSWed Jun 15 1994 12:524
    victor,
          are you sure that this is not an extension of the current
    financial year so that it has 18 months?
    ;-? 
3169.4it's allowedWEORG::SCHUTZMANBonnie Randall SchutzmanWed Jun 15 1994 13:345
    You can change your fiscal year, both as a company and as an
    individual.  The rules for doing it are pretty complicated, but you can
    change. 
    
    --bonnie
3169.5POWDML::AJOHNSTONbeannachdWed Jun 15 1994 16:059
    to build upon .4:
    
    yes, the corporation can change its fiscal year. When any change occurs
    the "adjustment" year must be less than 12 months. [per the SEC]
    
    this has been discussed and rejected for Digital in the past. don't
    know what the status is now.
    
      Annie
3169.6Maybe this is whySIERAS::MCCLUSKYWed Jun 15 1994 16:193
    My guess is that we would do this so that we could "show a profit" for
    a fiscal year.  Basically, we let the accountants manipulate the
    figures for a shortened period resulting in a paper profit.
3169.7TOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Wed Jun 15 1994 17:3615
>    My guess is that we would do this so that we could "show a profit" for
>    a fiscal year.  Basically, we let the accountants manipulate the
>    figures for a shortened period resulting in a paper profit.

  Just last week I read in Business Week that a company changed its fiscal year
by one month for this purpose. I forgot which company. Basically a case of
taking money out of one pocket and putting it in another, and making the figures
look different in the process.
  I hope that if Digital changes its fiscal year, it does so for sound business
reasons and not to cover up a loss. I dislike having a FY that ends Dec. 31
for several reasons, one of which is the sales issue mentioned a few replies
back.
  Is it true that it is better for different companies to have fiscal years 
that end at different times so as to spread out the workload at banks, account-
ing firms, etc.?
3169.8What a waste!SMURF::BLINNSpin yourself dizzy.Wed Jun 15 1994 18:484
        Gee, would that mean the FY95 fiscal calendar I just printed out
        would be useless after December 31?
        
        Tom
3169.9Two weak quarters in three?CTHQ::MOHNblank space intentionally filledWed Jun 15 1994 19:492
    What use would there be to have TWO Q1's within a nine month period; we
    barely survive having ONE Q1 in twelve months :^).
3169.10HELIX::SKALTSISDebWed Jun 15 1994 20:159
    RE: .7
    
    I think that it was Kertweil (?), and they did it to miake their
    financial position look better immediatly before going public. I think
    that they got themselves in a bit of trouble with the SEC, though,
    because doing it distorted the companies position to those that bought
    the offering.
    
    Deb
3169.11Could it be...?DECWET::FARLEEInsufficient Virtual um...er....Wed Jun 15 1994 22:322
Nah!
It couldn't be that they want two year-end pushes within a 12 month period!
3169.12Not a bad ideaDPDMAI::ROSEWed Jun 15 1994 23:0910
    I remember making the recommendation to switch our FY to the CY when I
    was in Marketing.  Digital does very little original research, but
    rather uses the figures of the experts...  IDC, G2, Gartner, etc.  Long
    Range Planning and year planning is often substantiated by their
    numbers.  There are good and bad reasons to do this, but the most
    difficult I had was that their market summaries and estimates come at
    year end CY.  By the time we finish long range and year plannig, we are
    using figures that are a year old.
    
    ...Larry
3169.13Change it back to 1987!UNYEM::GIBBONSJThu Jun 16 1994 16:445
    Maybe the FTC will let us do FY94 all over again.....a chance to show
    everyone what we've learned, since we're such good people at heart...
    
    They could give us an official reprieve and immediately re-instate July
    1993 stock prices!
3169.14GALVIA::FLOODQueue here for hatch #14Thu Jun 16 1994 17:131
	It's Groundhog Year.....