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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1158.0. "Open access to sensitive publications in DEC libraries" by CHESS::KAIKOW () Thu Aug 16 1990 15:30

I have noticed, at least in its current temporary facilities, the ZKO library 
leaves DEC sensitive publication out for anyone, such as a visting customer or
competitor, to grab.

Should not there be a DEC policy that encourages the more secure storage of such
publications, e.g. Competitive Update, Sales Update, Competitive Sales Update, 
etc.?

What is done in other libraries at DEC?
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1158.1security is everyone's jobSA1794::CHARBONNDin the dark the innocent can't seeThu Aug 16 1990 18:113
    Unless ZKO's Security is out to lunch, there are no unescorted
    visitors in the plant to begin with. You *do* keep an eye on
    *your* visitors, right ?
1158.2Lips and shipsCSG002::MAKSINJoe Maksin 291-0378 PDM1-2/H4Fri Aug 17 1990 11:139
    Any substantiated instance where, for example, copies of Sales
    Update, Competitive Update, ..., have shown up in the hands of
    customers, competitors, ..., etc.?
    
    What would happen if LRP, Yellow Book, ... Red Book information
    were not closely controlled?  I agree with Howard -- would Digital
    become strategic damaged or even worst ...
    
    Joe
1158.3Security *IS* everyone's responsiblityMEMORY::SLUZENSKIFri Aug 17 1990 13:037
    
    Badges must be displayed by all employees entering the Shrewsbury
    Research Library.  The library is never left unattended.  No visitor is
    able to enter to the library (or anywhere else in DEC for that matter)
    without being escorted by a DEC employee.  *It is the responsibility of
    the employee who is escorting the visitor to make sure that person is
    not "running off with company secrets".* 
1158.4Not in ZKOCHESS::KAIKOWFri Aug 17 1990 18:348
re: 1158.1

>    Unless ZKO's Security is out to lunch, there are no unescorted
>    visitors in the plant to begin with. You *do* keep an eye on
>    *your* visitors, right ?

I guess you haven't been up to ZKO. Visitors are not watched here.

1158.5PSW::WINALSKICareful with that VAX, EugeneFri Aug 17 1990 20:5910
RE: .4

Not by everybody, perhaps.  *I* always watch visitors that I bring in.


I don't see any need for new corporate policies in this area.  I do see a need
for a complaint to ZKO Security and the ZKO Library about this particular
problem.

--PSW
1158.6RBW::WICKERTMAA USIS ConsultantFri Aug 17 1990 21:0110
    
    You guys would be amazed at how many Sales Updates (sometimes even
    Competative Update!) end up in the customer's hands. Of course,
    sometimes the Sales Reps will "white-out" the author's name...
    
    Maybe it doesn't happen as much anymore but it certainly did several
    years ago.
    
    -Ray
    
1158.7MU::PORTEREH?Sun Aug 19 1990 02:529
    re .2
    
    "What would happen if LRP [...] information were not closely
     controlled?"
    
    Oh, probably no more effect than publishing any other work
    of fiction!
    
    :-)
1158.8LESLIE::LESLIEEponymous VAXSun Aug 19 1990 17:127
    Any visitors hosted by my group in ZK are escoreted at all times. If
    you know of instances when (non-DEC) visitors have gone unescorted
    around ZK, notify the Facility Manager, COrporate Security and the host
    group manager if you know their identity.
    
    
    /andy/
1158.9I already dood itCHESS::KAIKOWMon Aug 20 1990 15:089
re: 1158.5

>I do see a need
>for a complaint to ZKO Security and the ZKO Library about this particular
>problem.

What me complain?

It was the first thing I did when I saw the situation.
1158.10I don't think this is the "right" thing"SALISH::EVANS_BRMon Aug 20 1990 23:3326
    re: "substantiated examples of Sales Updates in Customers hands..."
    
    Hate to say this, but every project I've been on does this... mails
    them straight into customer shops -- the mailing label usually shows
    Employee name, and DEC address, but everyone at local office knows
    employee is on-site for the next year (or whatever), and so forwards it
    to the project secretary who then puts it into the mailbox for the
    employee (or employee visits office, and collects mail, and takes it to
    project, since they haven't a desk in the office!!!)
    
    If lucky, they can lock it in their  on-site desk. 80% of the time,
    they cannot, since it's on site, and that would evoke mistrust to our
    customer. Only one project did the unit manager actually say "bring
    them to the office, and we will store them for you", but that lasted
    about 2 months... Also, most on-sites are at least 1/2 hr drive
    (one-way) between office and site. Which means one cannot just go get
    mail just any-old-time...or take it back...
    
     So, here you are, reading about confidential stuff, and the customer
    has direct access to it all....  sigh.
    
    Well, until either the employee has a DEC proprietary spot on-site, or
    better access to the office, Digital can expect those confidential
    things to all end up in customer hands... 
    
    Bruce Evans
1158.11Home sweet homeCHESS::KAIKOWTue Aug 21 1990 08:397
re: 1158.10

Why not mail it to the employee's residence in the circumstances cited?

It would be grounds for divorce, if a spouse (or significant other) would open 
the mail. Children would not open it as you would merely have to threaten to 
take away TV, telephone and/or car privileges (depending upon their age group).