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| 4740.1 | YYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! | KAOM25::WALL | DEC Is Digital | Tue Jul 23 1996 12:57 | 1 |
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| 4740.2 | would go a loooooooooooong way! | DV780::LANGFELDT | Coloradical | Tue Jul 23 1996 15:33 | 8 |
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How about if Bob Palmer call's the International Olympic Committee
and the Atlanta Olympic committee and offers to help out IBM with
the problems with the speed of their processors and scoring results?
;^)
Sharon
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| 4740.3 | | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | We ':-)' for the humor impaired | Tue Jul 23 1996 16:03 | 12 |
| re: .-1
My thought exactly.
Also, now that we seem to have gotten an ear from above (see "Dear
Bob...") can we possibly get an explanation as to WHY we don't market or
advertize, and why this has been a problem for 10+ years? It's extremely
frustrating that everyone in the corporation sees that these problems
exist, and nothing is done about them.
-- Sam
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| 4740.4 | | POLAR::RICHARDSON | Perpetual Glenn | Tue Jul 23 1996 20:55 | 8 |
| What I don't understand is why isn't the AltaVista site being used for
marketing all of Digital's products.
Post some price lists along with product info and a field where you can
enter your geography and get a listing of sales reps who you can call
for a discount!
Glenn
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| 4740.5 | I remember one ad of note... | KYOSS1::FEDOR | Leo | Tue Jul 23 1996 21:02 | 6 |
| Two years back or so an ad appeared in the New York Times reading
pretty much that "reports of our demise are premature", with some
additions about how verious segments of the business have been growing.
Perhaps it's time to run this again....
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| 4740.6 | More focus to win | AKOCOA::TROY | | Tue Jul 23 1996 22:02 | 11 |
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The "DYMO tape" style ads you discuss probably can't be run again - you
can't cry wolf. BEst bet is for us to cut down messages - use real
proof of how we help customers win and keep chugging.
In the short term - we will be outspent so the focus needs to be fewer
more impactful messages to the market.
BT
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| 4740.7 | This wouldn't cost anything... | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel Without a Clue-foley@zko.dec.com | Tue Jul 23 1996 22:15 | 7 |
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That could probably start with not announcing product/services at
the same time as we announce 7k people to be laid off. We've got
impecable timing when it comes to that.
mike
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| 4740.8 | | ATLANT::SCHMIDT | See http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/ | Tue Jul 23 1996 22:53 | 7 |
| Bill:
> In the short term - we will be outspent...
Why? Is that out of the control of *EVERYONE* here?
Atlant
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| 4740.9 | cS | AKOCOA::TROY | | Wed Jul 24 1996 13:45 | 7 |
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The why on spending - in a nutshell, the Advertising expenses of the
company roll up to the SG&A expense line on the income statement -
which has been judged to be too high by our management and the
financial community.
Bill
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| 4740.10 | Time to get a grip on reality! | PCBUOA::WHITEC | Parrot_Trooper | Wed Jul 24 1996 13:58 | 11 |
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Well, then....... I couldn't think of 7000 more deserving people to LET
GO!
The people without the forsight to understand the IMPORTANCE of
Marketing! Why not do away with Parachute programs and re-direct
that finance into our 'story' we desperately need to tell the world.
Of all the boneheaded decisions, this has got to be one of the biggest.
chet
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| 4740.11 | And some folks wonder why whether we're doomed. | ATLANT::SCHMIDT | See http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/ | Wed Jul 24 1996 14:01 | 15 |
| > The why on spending - in a nutshell, the Advertising expenses of the
> company roll up to the SG&A expense line on the income statement -
> which has been judged to be too high by our management and the
> financial community.
So once again, we blindly do it "by the numbers". SG&A is too
high so cut *ALL* the SG&A budgets. That makes sense (NOT!).
I'm sorry, Bill, but somewhere in the chain of command, this
becomes a very *LAME* excuse. Maybe we need to adjourn this
discussion to 4719.*, the "Dear Bob..." note. After all, he
did collect that $375,000 bonus last year (1% of the money
that milk campaign cost); maybe we can get some leadership
for our money.
Atlant
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| 4740.12 | one idea | DV780::LANGFELDT | Coloradical | Wed Jul 24 1996 14:44 | 13 |
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What I would do:
Place a full page ad in the Atlanta Constitution saying:
"Yo, IBM.....
Need some help?
Call 1-188-DIGITAL."
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| 4740.13 | Amature Advertisement/marketing specialists UNITE! | PCBUOA::WHITEC | Parrot_Trooper | Wed Jul 24 1996 15:09 | 12 |
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Or,
"We put a bid in for the Atlanta Olympic Games Computer systems...
It included not only the latest, FASTEST, state of the art Alpha
technology, but a COMPLETE line of Services with Guaranteed response
and commitment to the higest standards that the olympics stand for,
but were turned down to a 'lower bidder'.
Well, Atlanta, you GOT WHAT YOU PAID FOR!
Digital, Gold Medalists in SPEED, QUALITY, and SERVICES Worldwide
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| 4740.14 | $200M in SG&A? | ODIXIE::ZOGRAN | Atlanta, Home of the WS Champs | Wed Jul 24 1996 15:24 | 8 |
| IBM paid $80 Million to be an "Official Sponsor". Had DIGITAL wanted
to pay $90 million I'm sure that ACOG (Atlanta Committee for the Olympic
Games) would have been glad to take it. IBM has also probably spent
about twice that amount on these games and they are still having
problems. I'm not being flip, but does anyone imagine DIGITAL spending
$200M + on the Olympics?
Dan
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| 4740.15 | | MSE1::PCOTE | Attrition: See Digital Equipement Corp. | Wed Jul 24 1996 15:34 | 7 |
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How much did Digital spend on DECworld ? Back in the days when
we had the QE-2 and rented out every room in B'ton ? Whatever the
price, I bet it was worth it. Too bad we didn't have a fraction of
the restructing charge to pull something like that off again.
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| 4740.16 | IBM - in danger of 'losing face'... | ICS::MORRISEY | | Wed Jul 24 1996 15:49 | 16 |
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Of course, one thing IBM has been somewhat afraid of in the past
is "exposure" -- that is, when large numbers of the general
public actually experience how well their systems are working,
or NOT working.
It was one thing when everything was in a 'glass house' and the
high priests were the only ones who really knew how well things
were working, but the potential for 'losing face' when the
performance of their systems are in a very public viewing area
is significant.
I'd guess there is MAJOR pressure being applied to some IBM'ers
this week to make thinks LOOK better.... :-)
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| 4740.17 | satisfied customers are the best advert. | HDLITE::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, SPE MRO | Wed Jul 24 1996 16:02 | 9 |
| Nash Finch of Minneapolis, the third largest publicly traded
wholesale/retail food distributor in the U.S., is replacing its IBM
computing infrastructure with a client/server solution from Digital.
The contract includes an AlphaServer 8400 system, an AlphaServer
2100A development system, and AlphaStation 250 workstations, which will
run financial and distribution applications from SAP and Informix
database/data warehouse applications. The total value of the contract
is more than US$6 million.
Nash Finch had been an IBM customer for 25 years.
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| 4740.18 | Congrats on Nash Finch! | AKOCOA::TROY | | Wed Jul 24 1996 16:05 | 6 |
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re .17 - Great win! - We are actively reviewing delivered solutions for
customer references- if you have some that may not have made it to the
Integrated Repository - send me mail with details.
bt
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| 4740.19 | we tried | DV780::LANGFELDT | Coloradical | Wed Jul 24 1996 16:07 | 13 |
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I worked with one of our customers who was bidding on the contract
to create a low-altitude air traffic control system for Atlanta
for the Games. Basically something that could track all of the
helicopters and blimps and such in the air over the area.
Customer wanted Digital to supply workstations and a person for
the setup, duration and tear-down.
We couldn't get anyone to commit to loaning them the equipment for
code porting and use at the Games. I think they went with Sun.
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| 4740.20 | Would it have been worth it? | EVMS::HALLYB | Fish have no concept of fire | Wed Jul 24 1996 16:43 | 6 |
| > Customer wanted Digital to supply workstations and a person for
> the setup, duration and tear-down.
What was customer willing to pay for this?
John
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| 4740.21 | Same old song and dance... | POWDML::TNELSON | The Song Remains The Same | Wed Jul 24 1996 18:08 | 48 |
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> The why on spending - in a nutshell, the Advertising expenses of the
> company roll up to the SG&A expense line on the income statement -
> which has been judged to be too high by our management and the
> financial community.
If we're going to compare margins to other companies to justify laying
people off then why don't we compare everything, including advertising?
If marketing isn't a justifiable expense then we better stop trying to
play in the big leagues.
Apparently no one told Apple about this reporting rule. They've hit rock
bottom, so what do they do? They start a major ad compaign tieing them
into major movies etc... Now I'm not saying it's working for them
(bringing in more revenue) but I can tell you it's not hurting their
name recognition! They are trying to build back their name in the public
eye (at least they got one to build back!) by associating their products
with what the public perceives as a winner.
But Digital's answer to this one is: Well Apple sells PC's to the general
public and we don't, we sell to businesses. We place ads in certain tech
and corporate magazines.... blah..blah..blah.. Well isn't that the same
process we had in the old fat high margin DEC days??? If so, doesn't that
tell you something about our advertising????
> Nash Finch of Minneapolis, the third largest publicly traded
> wholesale/retail food distributor in the U.S., is replacing its IBM
> computing infrastructure with a client/server solution from Digital.
Great job!! I do not mean to down play this accomplishment in any way
but we (people not in sales) are spoon fed every major sale and that's
all we hear about. I'd like to hear a truer picture from out in sales,
like what about the ones we lost and why??? Outside our customer base
we must be loosing more then we're winning... If the Alpha is so almighty
great then something NEW has to be done to make the buyer understand
why he should buy one.. if Alpha had the AD backing it deserves then
people would want one wether they need one or not! If you don't believe
me then go talk to NIKE, New Car dealers, Intel, Microsoft, etc...
Did you ever wonder why Intel Advertises so much??? It's not like they
need to, they already control their market.
Well this AD argument is a loosing battle anyway... always was.. always
will be.
Ted
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| 4740.22 | <some examples> | WOTVAX::UNITED::MCDONNELL | | Wed Jul 24 1996 21:02 | 40 |
| OK, you want some losses, well I have a couple that still rankle from a
previous re-org in Digital;
1. UK University wanted to replaced v. big, old, expensive Sequent with
a new system to provide file & print & limited dvelopment/compute
services to the general user population. Important criteria for the
customer were (duh) price and performance, in that order. Competition
was Sun, HP and SGI. Everything looked OK in terms of our initial
response, two days before the decision, SGI discounted their system by
75%, everyone was flat-footed, SGI got the deal. SGI will make their
margin on maintenance, services and follow on business. The other major
factor was that this deal occurred about a month after we'd disbanded
our dedicated Education sales team.
2. Large engineering company wanted a workflow/document management
system. We'd already won two other deals elsewhere within the company
based on Linkworks. Then voila! we announce that Linkworks is not a
mainstream product (that was the customer take on our announcement, so
don't bother giving me the internal spin we put on it), deal goes to
IBM/Groupwise The other major factor was our decision to remove direct
account management (so, John, we're not important enough for Digital
anymore). This decision has now been reversed (after a lapse of approx
18 months).
In general, Digital is vulnerable to a competitor that can drive the
deal quickly, especially if they discount at the last minute. They can
out-resource us when it comes to heads/loan equipment and benchmarks. We are
also vulnerable to FUD, whether it's about our financials, or our
overall strategies or lack thereof.
In my current customer, we are enjoying a great deal of success, which
I believe is largely due to the high calibre account team :-). On a
more serious note, we have managed to preserve continuity on the
account; my GAM has been with the customer for about five years, so we
have the relationships that help when we run into serious issues;
laptop availability is the current nightmare.
The old saw about people buying from people is just as true as ever;
the technology is important but secondary.
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| 4740.24 | | OHFSS1::FULLER | Never confuse a memo with reality | Thu Jul 25 1996 01:57 | 15 |
| >I'd like to hear a truer picture from out in sales,
> like what about the ones we lost and why???
There is a major US automobile manufacturer where the Digital nameplate
is not permitted on the desktop. We're allowed in backrooms as
servers, and on those desktops where a waiver has been granted. And,
waivers are only being granted for VMS systems, and only to upgrade VMS
systems that are already there.
Those Digital Unix systems in place at this customer are being
threatened due to a 3rd party's failure to port their product to
Digital Unix. The failure, as I understand it, is due to a lack of
support (mainly a lack of hardware) from Digital.
Stu
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| 4740.25 | Get our name OUT THERE! | STAR::DIPIRRO | | Thu Jul 25 1996 13:40 | 39 |
| It's been my understand that, believe it or not, we really DO spend
a lot on advertising. We're right up there in advertising spending with
some of our biggest competitors. Unfortunately, it's like a lot of
things we do: stealth advertising.
I'll admit that it's better now than it ever was. However, it's
still lousy with respect to name recognition. As someone else pointed
out, people first have to know who the heck we are. Then we can worry
about trying to sell them something.
Now I think that collection of ads which flashed text on the screen
with loud rock & roll music in the background was supposed to do this.
This was actually a pretty bold move for Digital when you look at what
we've done in the past. And some of the magazine and newspaper ads have
been pretty good. We're just not getting the bang for the buck like our
competitors.
I think the reason behind us not doing an aggressive TV ad campaign
is our own indecisiveness around our place in the consumer markets. I
think management has the perception that our current advertising hits
the people in the commercial arenas that would potentially buy our
products, and they don't see the value in more widespread name
recognition or think the cost is justified. I think our sales and
performance as a company show otherwise, but, hey, what do I know? I'm
just an engineer.
I believe we desperately need better name recognition to be seen as
viable competition for HP, Apple, IBM, Sun, and a host of others. We
don't have to spend billions developing an ad campaign. We need a TV
spot, which we would run A LOT, which simply makes people remember
Digital's name. It can be something very clever but which has to appeal
to the masses and not just the computer nerds with TV sets. It can be
something totally idiotic, like the Mentos candy ads which everyone
makes fun of...but you remember the name. I've suggested in the past
that come up with an ad that pokes a little fun at ourselves and our
image, but lots of things would potentially work. And we don't run the
ad a few times and then stop for a year when dollars are a little
tight. We run it and run it and run it until it drives people crazy,
and then we run it some more. Then we come up with something new, and
we do it all over again. People keep hearing the name, over and over.
Now if our marketing people and/or the ad agencies can't come up
with something this simple, I'll do it. Just send them to me, and I'll
dream up some ideas. This really isn't that difficult.
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| 4740.26 | | TGRAPH::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Fri Jul 26 1996 09:12 | 10 |
| 4740.27 | We were DEC and we were GOOD! | REGENT::NIKOLOFF | STOP Global Whining | Fri Jul 26 1996 13:32 | 5 |
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-1
Agree, Agree, Agree!!!
What were they thinking?!
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| 4740.28 | They could change ?!?!? | ZPOVC::HALLIN | I-TV Jack, The way of the future (SPEED) | Fri Jul 26 1996 14:18 | 3 |
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DEC Classic ???
/Litchard
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| 4740.29 | This is how others call us | KOALA::CIOT | | Fri Jul 26 1996 17:42 | 10 |
| re: .26
Totally agree.
Yesterday, I was talking to a Micron sales person for a PC. When asking
about support the guy said:
"You get 1 year on site support by DEC".
Thierry
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| 4740.30 | Mass Media coverage of DIGITAL | WOTVAX::HILTON | http://blyth.lzo.dec.com | Mon Jul 29 1996 16:55 | 176 |
| Some good news on the recent Euro96 football championships, and
Digital's involvement.
Posted with the authors permission.
Greg
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As promised here is the role up of the main coverage for Euro96. It is
not everything, but it gives a pretty good idea.
David.
EURO'96 FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP 1 OF 3
RESULTS/ANALYSIS OF MEDIA COVERAGE
HIGHLIGHTS: These are the key highlights of Digital's media
coverage during the Euro'96 Football Championship
held in England from June 8-30, 1996:
o 58 minutes and 2 seconds of TV coverage
o 53 minutes and 10 seconds of radio coverage
o Press coverage in:
- 12 International/National business titles
- 8 computing press titles
- 2 regional titles
- 2 business magazines
BACKGROUND: Digital was an official supplier of computer
systems, networking and services to Euro'96. We
were a core member of the Technology Team which
comprised Digital, Microsoft, BT and Sema Group.
From a Digital perspective, a cross BU team took
responsibility for the delivery and promotion of
Digital's participation in Euro'96.
In addition to the anticipated benefits
for customer and partner relationship building, a
focussed programme of PR activity was put in place
to maximise the positive exposure of Digital as a
core IT Supplier to the world's third-largest
sporting event covering:
- joint PR activity with the Technology team
- Digital-specific PR coverage around key features
- a Video News Release
- a Radio News Release
Details of the effectiveness of each component of
this PR programme are summarised below.
VIDEO NEWS RELEASE: A 10-minute video sequence was prepared on the
(VNR) theme of 'The Technology behind Euro'96'. The
completed VNR was actively merchandised to
broadcast stations (terrestrial, satellite and
cable) in 5 major European markets with the
following results:
o 58 minutes and 2 seconds of television coverage
o 22 separate broadcasts on pan-European, national,
regional and cable TV stations
o estimated audience of 14,801,000
o comparative airtime cost equivalent of 265,073
pounds - actual investment of 21K pounds in
production of the VNR.
EURO'96 FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP 2 OF 3
RESULTS/ANALYSIS OF MEDIA COVERAGE
RADIO NEWS RELEASE: A Radio News Release was put together (well done
(RNR) MCS!) focussing on the Euro'96 Website which was
hosted by Digital on an AlphaServer system. The
completed RNR was syndicated to over 120 national
and independent radio stations throughout the UK
with the following results:
o 53 minutes and 10 seconds of radio coverage
o 29 separate broadcasts on national and regional
radio
o estimated audience of 9,352,000
o comparative airtime cost equivalent of 31K
pounds - actual investment of 1.5K pounds in the
production of the RNR.
TECHNOLOGY TEAM PR: As a core member of the Euro'96 Technology Team
Digital contributed to the PR activities undertaken
on behalf of all members of the team with the
following results (those articles marked '*' are
the ones with maximum Digital coverage):
National/International Business Press Coverage
* The Times (Interface supplement) - May 1, 1996
"The Goalposts Have Moved" feature.
o Sunday Business (Computer Age) - May 12, 1996
"Sema kicks mainframe into touch for Euro'96"
o The Guardian (Supplement) - June 1, 1996
"Left back"
* Financial Times (IT Supplement) - June 5, 1996
"Sporting world offers an unrivalled showcase for
technology".
"Scoring with pin-point accuracy".
"Technology team with a very serious goal".
o The Times - June 5, 1996
Article on WEBsite
o The Guardian (On-line supplement) - June 6, 1996
"Total football from Technology Team".
o The Daily Telegraph (supplement) - June 11, 1996
"Whole new ball game for soccer analysis"
o Evening Standard (supplement) - June 7, 1996
"10m pounds to spy on opponents".
o The Sunday Times - June 23, 1996
"For the right result"
o Wall Street Journal - June 24, 1996
"Sema shows off high-tech to once low-brows of
soccer"
EURO'96 FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP 3 OF 3
RESULTS/ANALYSIS OF MEDIA COVERAGE
TECHNOLOGY TEAM PR: Computing Press Coverage:
(continued) o Computer Weekly - May 2, 1996
"Up for the cup".
o Client/Server Magazine - May, 1996
"Champions!"
* Network Week - May 29, 1996
"Technology team scores on Euro football
championships".
* PC Dealer - May 15, 1996
"Sponsors warm up for Euro'96".
o Business and Technology - June, 1996
"Goal of the month"
* Computing - June 6, 1996
"Here we go".
o Computing - June 20, 1996
"Sema funds support for Euro'96 revellers"
* Computer Weekly - June 27, 1996
"Euro 96 site is a big hit".
Regional Newspapers:
o Liverpool Daily Post - June 5, 1996
"Euro 96 is to go out on internet".
o The Sunday Post (Scotland) - June 30, 1996
"A winning performance"
Business Magazines:
o The Economist - June 22-29, 1996
"Spot the Logo"
o Marketing Week - March 29, 1996
Feature on sponsorship
>END<
Distribution:
TO:
MARK DURRANT@REO Alison Martin@WLC David Townsend@REO Sue Manston@REO
NICK GOSSHAWK@REO Richard Pryor-Jones Peter Bernard@GEO Joy Waelchli@GEO
David Strage@GEO Susan Goldsworthy@G "serafina espie MS& "david bennett MS&L
FRAN WINTERS@AHP Press Office
CC:
David Townsend DAVID HOWARD-JONES@ carlo gilardi@GEO lars-ole hansen@GEO
GUY TARRING @reo alan brighty@GEO
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| 4740.31 | Just Doit - We have the power! | HIGHD::MELENDEZ | | Thu Aug 01 1996 21:03 | 34 |
| Hello,
It seems to me that there are numerous Digital People who own stock.
I do! If we want change maybe it needs to be in the form of using our
strength as share holders. How many shares do you own, I have only 25,
( I would have more but with the incresses in expenses on the health
plans and the lack of raises for so many years, I can't afford more)
Sometimes a proactive voice is more benefical than the voice of lambs.
If we stand together, we will gain. Digital will become a force to be
reconded with. We gain in Unity, Teamwork, and Product Name Recognition.
We should be attacking IBM right now they paid for our gains.
We should be attacking HP when we are told that their salesmen are out
telling digitals customers that we are going out of buisness.
We should be attacking Intel, we are not selling many of there systems
anyway.
We should be attacking Sun hey their slow face the music.
Face it we have the best solutions, People, and future.
We need to have the guts to stand up and be counted.
If I had the proxys you could bet I would stand and shout for what is
needed. Maybe we should send out a proxy request to have all our
share holders call CSC support line to be put on hold. " Sorry CSC but
you have the most exposure and hey *** I love Ya Man ** I couldnt do My job
without you and I know it "
I am thinking about going to the next share holders meeting anyway.
See Ya There.
Jose Melendez
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| 4740.32 | Ad for the Rainbow! | PGREEN::SACKMANJ | Pedalo'ing the Internet | Wed Aug 14 1996 10:40 | 7 |
| Talking of previous advertising; I saw "The Philidelphia Experiment" a
week or so ago and, blow me, an advert for a Rainbow, coming off the
TV!!
Anyone remember if that was a real campaign? Was it successful??
Jon.
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| 4740.33 | CP/M anyone? | POMPY::LESLIE | Andy Leslie, random QAR generator | Wed Aug 14 1996 10:43 | 1 |
| It was a real campaign. It was unsuccessful.
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| 4740.34 | | FABSIX::J_SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Wed Aug 14 1996 11:19 | 9 |
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Eeks! Monitor Control Programs! EEEkkss!
jim (ex VT-180 Robin owner) :)
p.s. - The word processor was neat.
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| 4740.35 | Good computer ads on TV... | ICS::MORRISEY | | Tue Nov 19 1996 14:02 | 16 |
| 4740.36 | | GERUND::WOLFE | I'm going to huff, and puff, and blow your house down | Tue Nov 19 1996 15:59 | 18 |
| 4740.37 | | LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza @LJO | Tue Nov 19 1996 19:50 | 3 |
| 4740.38 | I like the recent Microsoft ads... | NCMAIL::SMITHB | | Wed Nov 20 1996 10:48 | 0 |
| 4740.39 | Digital Microsoft Joint TV Ad... | SCASS1::WISNIEWSKI | ADEPT of the Virtual Space. | Wed Nov 20 1996 16:19 | 20 |
| 4740.40 | IBM ad | KERNEL::FREKES | Like a thief in the night | Thu Nov 21 1996 08:58 | 15 |
| 4740.41 | Same Ads Run In The US | MROA::EARLY | WW SBU Product Marketing DTN 297-4709 | Thu Nov 21 1996 12:43 | 6 |
| 4740.42 | HP ads | TLE::PUDER | Those who do not know LISP are doomed to reimplement it. | Fri Dec 20 1996 17:57 | 18 |
| 4740.43 | | BIGQ::SILVA | http://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/ | Fri Dec 20 1996 18:04 | 3 |
| 4740.44 | | DECCXL::WIBECAN | That's the way it is, in Engineering! | Fri Dec 20 1996 18:22 | 5 |
| 4740.45 | | better.mro.dec.com::YANNEKIS | | Wed Mar 12 1997 15:19 | 8 |
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FYI,
I just found the espn web page (www.espn.com) picked "tournament bracket"
and almost had a heart attack when Digital was the first ad that
appeared.
Greg
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