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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2508.0. "Longer fiscal year this year" by SDSVAX::SWEENEY (Patrick Sweeney in New York) Mon May 24 1993 11:44

    Welcome to June.
    
    It has six weeks.
    
    The fiscal year is 1.9% bigger.
    The fiscal quarter is 7.7% bigger.
    
    The next fiscal year starts the week of July 4th.
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2508.2CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistMon May 24 1993 14:278
	This happens every couple of years doesn't it? I think it comes of
	365 not being evenly divisable by 52.

	RE: .1 Sure it will (one hopes) mean the income numbers look better
	but that may very well be offset by the fact that expense numbers will
	be higher as well.

			Alfred
2508.3RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Mon May 24 1993 14:5810
    Re .2:
    
    > I think it comes of 365 not being evenly divisable by 52.
    
    You should not be entering information like that into a notes
    conference without permission from the source.  It is irresponsible of
    you to start such rumors.  Moderators, please delete note 2508.2!
    
    
    				-- edp
2508.4BSS::CODE3::BANKSNot in SYNC -> SUNKMon May 24 1993 17:0713
Re:   <<< Note 2508.0 by SDSVAX::SWEENEY "Patrick Sweeney in New York" >>>

>    Welcome to June.
>    
>    It has six weeks.
    
I didn't understand this until I looked at the fiscal calendar in the most 
recent phone book.  How is it that a week (May 23-29) in which there are *no*
days of a month (June) can be a part of it? 

Is this an accounting ruse which needs no correlation with reality?  :-)

-  David
2508.5Always look on the bright side of life...LASSIE::TRAMP::GRADYShort arms, and deep pockets...Mon May 24 1993 17:177
Look at the bright side.  We get 53 paychecks this 
(calendar) year, that is, assuming we manage to survive
this calendar year.

;-)

tim
2508.6Easy come easy go!VMSNET::STEFFENSENMon May 24 1993 18:018
    
    RE.5
    
    And Uncle Sam will be happy too!  We'll make more so he can tax us
    more. 
    
    Ken
    
2508.7Strange but trueICS::VERMAMon May 24 1993 19:188
    
    Re .4 
    
    The situation your described about May 23-29 in Fiscal June is 
    consistent with the last weeks of July, August, October, November, 
    January, February and April being in the following fiscal months.
    
    
2508.8When is the next 53 week FY ?ELMAGO::JMORALESMon May 24 1993 19:5117
    Re; .7
    
    	Now that you mentioned it:
    
    	This FY'93 started on June 28th and it contained three (3) days
        June 28, 29 and 30 that were part of June (last month of FY'92).
    
    	This FY'93 will end with three (3) days July 1, 2 and 3 that are
        part of this FY'93 June.
    
    	Next FY'94 starts on July 4th and ends on July 2nd.
    
    	I guess every now and then we will have a 53 week FY, however we
        will not have a 51 week FY ever.
    
    	Can someone inform every how many years we will have a 53 week FY
        or when is the next 53 week FY ?
2508.9just a guessARCANA::CONNELLYit's Cards-on-the-Table Time!Mon May 24 1993 20:2312
re: .8

>    	Can someone inform every how many years we will have a 53 week FY
>        or when is the next 53 week FY ?

well, 52*7 = 364, which is one day short (not taking leap year into account)

so maybe it's every 7th year with an occasional extra one thrown in to
cover the leap years (or maybe a 7 week June every once in a great while)

								paul
2508.10The next is fy19997021::MCMAHONImpeach Clinton and her husband!Mon May 24 1993 21:162
    The last time we had an FY with 53 weeks was FY88. The next is FY1999.
    Then FY2003, FY2010, FY2016, FY2021, FY2027, FY2032...
2508.11The empirical approachBULEAN::ROBERTSAre your lights out?Tue May 25 1993 12:2225
	My investigations concerning the divisibility of 365 by 52 have,
	in fact, yielded results that will no doubt perplex the DEC accounting
	department for years to come.  For users of OpenVMS, try this simple
	experiment yourselves.

	Construct the following DCL command file using the text editor of
	your choice:

		$ SET VERIFY
		$ X = 365/52
		$ SHOW SYMBOL X
		$ EXIT

	Now execute the command file: 

		$ X = 365/52
		$ SHOW SYMBOL X
		  X = 7   Hex = 00000007  Octal = 00000000007
		$ EXIT

	I agree with .3 - the mathematical assumptions made by .2 were
	indeed incorrect!

QED,
ken
2508.12WLDBIL::KILGOREAdiposilly challengedTue May 25 1993 12:443
    
    Ahh, life's so much simpler in an integer world.
    
2508.13Didn't you notice when you did your taxes ?ELWOOD::KAPLANLarry Kaplan, DTN: 237-6872Tue May 25 1993 16:224
    Nope - we don't get 53 paycheck this calendar year.  That happened last
    calendar year (1992) which had 53 Thursdays.  
    
    L.
2508.14Dec manuf. calendarPMRV70::SHERKI belong! I got circles overme i'sTue May 25 1993 17:1612
    
    
    Per the corporate bylaws, Article 6, Section 1, the fiscal year ends 
    on the Saturday closest to June 30.
    
    The first 3 quarters are made up of months with 4,4, and 5 weeks, the
    last quarter is either 4,4, and 5 or 4,4, and 6. 
    
    So now you know..
    
    Ken
    
2508.15Don't get me confused!DPDMAI::GREERWDoing OK in OKCTue May 25 1993 22:3219
        >>.5
        >>Look at the bright side.  We get 53 paychecks this
        >>(calendar) year, that is, assuming we manage to survive
        >>this calendar year.
        
        	1) Payed a few bill collectors.
        	2) Finally sent dog to vet.
        	3) Bought that back scratcher I've been wanting.
        
        >>.13
        >>Nope- we don't get 53 paycheck this calendar year.  That
        >>happened last calendar year (1992) which had 53 Thursdays.
        
        Now look,
        If you guys are gonna get me all excited and then depressed, you 
        at least need to write your replies on the same day (don't give 
        me time to THINK)!!!
        
        W.G.
2508.16ZEKE::QUAYLEThu Jun 17 1993 19:301
    re .10, now *there's* an optimist