Conference 7.286::digital

    $mcr ncp sho node 2.440
    
    Node Volatile Summary as of 29-APR-1993 10:02:48
    
        Node           State      Active  Delay   Circuit     Next node 
                                  Links
    
     2.440 (LOSER)                                MNA-0        19.1021 (AREA19)
    
    $set host loser
    %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable
    $
    

    LOSER was a workstation whose owner get TFSO'd. Your best bet when
    looking for a missing conference is to search (either in topic 2.* or
    by using DIR/TITLE) TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES.
    
    			Alfred

    re .1
    
    
    I also can see the node in my local decnet database but cannot
    connect to it.
    
    It is my understaning if you can see the node in your decnet
    database it doesnt actualy confirm that the node is still there
    or if the node name or address has changed
    
    
    Regards 
    
    Ken

    
    Alfred
    
    Thanks for your help I've tracked it down using your info
    
    All the best
    
    Ken 

If you want to know the "official" corporate status of any node (hidden or
non-hidden) at any site, the correct way to do it is to go to the source: 

	$ VTX EASYNET

Then pick item "3   NODE   REGISTRATION".

Then pick item "2  -  Node Registration Procedure".

Then pick item "6 - DISPLAY A NODE".  Although most of the menu items are 
restricted, any employee can access this menu item.

Then enter the protocol type (in this case "D"), and the node name (in this 
case "LOSER").

You will receive a screen of information about the node, or the indication 
that it does not exist (useful to see if anyone already has used a node 
name you want to register).

Ray

 >  It is my understaning if you can see the node in your decnet
 >   database it doesnt actualy confirm that the node is still there
 >   or if the node name or address has changed

Absolutely.  Your local database is just a file which says (e.g.)
"when I say node name XXXX it means node address AA.NNN".   

There is no guarantee that node XXXX exists, that it ever existed,
it now has address AA.NNN, that it ever had address AA.NNN, or
that the owner of node AA.NNN calls his node XXXX.

(Sort of like your own phone book where you can write anything
 in it that you want - and you can get it as wrong as you want!)

"Usually", system managers update their local node databases
from some central place, so that changes tend to propagate
around the net.   But that's not an automatic action.

(Sort of like getting a new phone book from the phone company now
 and then)

>    LOSER was a workstation whose owner get TFSO'd.

How appropriate.

$ set host tfso
%SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown

    Help connect to node SUBWAY::. Has not been reachable since 2-FEB-94
    Dose any one know any info.
    Thanks Mike Friedman

    Try NYOSS1 instead of SUBWAY. It works.

    So the 10/20 Folks were much better than the VAX/VMS folks.
    
    I remember the cross training of the Tops folks to VMS and the hardware
    folks to the Vax architecture.  It would seem that these same folks can
    make a transition to PC software/hardware.  
    
    Just cutting large salaries, appears to be the thrust of this mode of 
    operation.
    
    Dave

    Mike
    
    You could try the system manager of SUBWAY
    
    $ nodeinfo subway
    Nodename :            SUBWAY
    Network Address :     32.0116
    Machine Type :        CLUSTE
    Operating System :    NONE
    Version :             4E
    System Manager :      FINLATOR
    Contact DTN :         352-2519
    Cost Center :         1PP
    Plant Location code : NYO  8
    Plant :               NY AREA OFFICE/SALES/SVS.
    City :                NEW YORK
    State :               NY
    Country :             USA
    
    Node Data correct to  5-FEB-1994 20:48  (total of 89786 Easynet nodes)
    Code Data correct to 14-JAN-1994 11:02  (total of 772 valid MTS codes)
    
    You can also look this stuff up in VTX EASYNET.
    
    from another Mike
                                                   

Re:<<< Note 2482.12 by CSC32::D_ROYER "You tucha my Karma, I breaka you face" >>>

>                -< 10/20 folks usually have 20 years service. >-

What does this have to do with a missing node...?

-  David

    David,
    Evidently Dave put that in the wrong note by mistake. So sue him!
    
    Ken

SUBWAY is no more, it was replaced by the NYO Site server, NYOSS1.

    
    I hope this was entered into EASYNET_CONFERENCES.